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I'm 39 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: here with Ge Moody. Last name rhymes with duty um. 40 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: And if you never listen to the Iron Rappaport Stereo podcast, 41 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: this is the only podcast that prides itself on no 42 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: fact checking. Yes, okay, we're not fact checking. All right 43 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: we go, rough, rugged and whirl. It calls the disco 44 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: to the Mulatchi brothers. My name is Michael Rappaport, a 45 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: K the Gringo man Dingo, Hey K Mr Mr White 46 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: Folks a K my rap crap Uh. I'm here with 47 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: Ge Moody. Last name rhymes with duty. Yes. The two 48 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: thousand fifteen two thousand and sixteen podcast co host of 49 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: the Year, I told you we have a jam packed, 50 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: star studded show. We got Bruce Banner himself, the incredible Hulk, 51 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: Mark Ruffalo coming up on the Iron rapp Reports Stereo Podcast. 52 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: Currently in the movie thor number one movie in the world, 53 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: not in the country. He's been in all sorts of things. 54 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: Now you see me. The kids are all right. Reservation 55 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: Road zodiact so I mean so Shutter Island everything. Great 56 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: actor Fox Catcher, three time Oscar nominated actor three times. 57 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: I gotta ask you what makes this guy above the rest? 58 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: What makes him a great actor? That's a good question. 59 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: He's um skilled skilled. He he's like the kind of 60 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: actor you know, like if I if I, like, if 61 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: I was equating it to like an NBA point guard, 62 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: I'd say he's like a Mike Conley, like nothing fancy, 63 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: no tricks, a great just skilled actor time and time 64 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: and time again, like a like a like a John Stockton, 65 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: consistent over and over and over and over and over again. 66 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: The ladies love him. The ladies love him. He's a 67 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: married man, but the ladies love him. He's got a 68 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: swag about him, like you know, he's just he's just 69 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: got it. He's good and and and and you know, 70 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: he could do drama, he could do comedy. And he's 71 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: likable and he's just skilled, you know he he Um, 72 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: he has a real sort of he just has a 73 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: real likable quality about him. And he's intense like he 74 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: was in this movie. Um. He was nominated for I 75 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: on Oscar Fox Catcher with Steve Carell and Channing Tatum 76 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: about those wrestlers, uh United States Olympic rat wrestlers. It's 77 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: a crazy story and he's just he's just good man. 78 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: He's intense, he could be sort of creepy when he 79 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: wants to, but he but he he's just he's just 80 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: good man. He's just a dope actor. Three time Oscar 81 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: nominated actors, I mean three times. He's he's he's no joke. 82 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: He's worked with everybody. He's worked with everybody. I gotta 83 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 1: talk to him about about all that. He worked with Scorsesey, 84 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: he worked with David Fincher. He's in these crazy, big, 85 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: ridiculously big budgeted, worldwide successful movies. He's got a dope 86 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: career and he's a dope actor. So I'm a fan 87 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: of his and I'm looking forward to talking to him 88 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: on the podcast. Yeah, I want to hear this, Yeah 89 00:05:53,880 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: for sure. Um, before we get to Ruffalo, Mark ruff Um, 90 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: how are you feeling, Mr Moody, Oh I feel good man. 91 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: Everything is good. My house is uh looking good. Uh 92 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: everything is the Bronx Gloom Tomb is uh about to 93 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: be up and running. Just one more hurdle and then 94 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: that's it now. Now, people, when we first started out, 95 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: we put out before the fire and all the insurance stuff. 96 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: We we we said we were going to have um 97 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: a dinner at the Bronx s Gloom tomb. Correct, and 98 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: you were gonna make uh ox tails, Yeah, sweet tea 99 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: and all the good stuff. Listen, we we we want 100 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: to make good on that. The people that hit us 101 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: up and donated to get that good oxtail dinner. The 102 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: time is now with Moody. Yeah, okay, hit us up 103 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: on Twitter, you know where to find us. These are 104 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: our loyalists. These are the iron Wrap poor core fans. 105 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: The oxtailed dinner from Gimonetti. Although it might not be 106 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: the healthiest thing, Okay, although it might not be in 107 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: your diet, it's well worth the long over over two 108 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: year weight. Okay, Yeah, it's coming. We had a devastating 109 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: fire that kind of put things on paws, that threw 110 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: everything out of loop. Yeah, I'm I'm in the gloom 111 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: to him right now, and uh it's looking good and 112 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: I'm very happy. So um Monetti, something broke the other 113 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: day regarding uh, it's like it's like never ending. Um. 114 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: We've talked about Lena Dunham on this show before. I've 115 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: acknowledged that I like the show Girls. I also acknowledged 116 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: that she had a show called girls on for I 117 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: think it was five or six seasons on HBO that 118 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: took place in Brooklyn. Uh, that didn't have any uh 119 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: black and or Latino girls on it. It should have 120 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: been called white girls. That being said. The Trials and 121 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: Tribulations of Lena Dunham, apparently, and I never heard of 122 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: this term, her and her writing staff have been accused 123 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: of hipster racism, not just straight up racism, hipster racism. Yeah, 124 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: what is that? That's just like casual casual racism. Just 125 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: and then and then, like they said in the paper, 126 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, it's just a joke. Don't don't, don't 127 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: get out of don't get out of hand. It's just 128 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: a joke. That's that bullshit. Yeah, well what does that mean? 129 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: Hipster racism? Uh? Yo, you have no I never heard this. 130 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: See that's the thing. Did somebody come up the woman 131 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: who accused Lena, why do you put the hip stir 132 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: in front of it? Because it's a it's a it's 133 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: it's a way they do it. She said, She kind 134 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: of explained it. It's it's the way it said. And 135 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: then and then they come off at as like, well, 136 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: we're just being provocative. Yo, we already pulled this girl's file. 137 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: We already pulled it and it came out and we 138 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: see what tom it is with her. It's a bunch 139 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: of bullshit. Soapbox. I called her the soapbox liar. Yeah, 140 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: she she's whacky, man, she's whacky. I mean the the 141 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: the the the the accusations that are are are coming 142 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: out left, right and center. Uh from everybody, from Russell Simmons, 143 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: Brett Rattinger. Over the weekend, more people came out against them. Uh. 144 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: To Charlie Rose. Charlie, Charlie Rose is apparently wild for 145 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: the night, and so he's walking around CBS studios or 146 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: PBS when he was working at PBS. He's walking around 147 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: neked the news man for over forty years. He so 148 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 1: he's walking handing memos to people naked. Get the funk 149 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: out of here. Do you think this is? Do you 150 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: think this is? This isn't real. The press is all 151 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: in on this ship, because how are you going to 152 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: print something like that without any evidence? And then this 153 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: guy gets suspended. That's that's not journalism. That's like witch 154 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: hunt ship. That's not that's not that's not journalism. This 155 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: motherfucker's seventies some years old. You think he's he's walking 156 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: around CBS neckt the funk out of here. Man. Let 157 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: me tell, let me just tell anybody who's listening to show. 158 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: I percent don't support sexual assault, sexual harassment. Hell no, one, 159 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: not not in any way, shape or form. But I 160 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: also five percent don't except false allegations are unproven allegations 161 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: of the same thing. And you could feel the same 162 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: way about both of those things. You could be like, 163 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: I don't accept, condone support sexual harassment, sexual assault, and 164 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: you could also feel the same way. I don't accept 165 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: and condone false accusations of sexual assault and harassment. It's okay. 166 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: It's okay to to feel the same way about both things, 167 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: because you know, I saw this. I mean, this happens 168 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: all the time, all the time. And there's people that 169 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: have died in prison, white men and black men, false accusations, 170 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: unproven rapes, sexual assault, forget forgetting murders and all that stuff. 171 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying whether Charlie Roses is guilty or 172 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: not guilty. I have no idea. This just came out 173 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: this actor Jeffrey Tambor, who who If you don't know 174 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: his name, you know his face has been around for 175 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: forty years at least. He's currently on the show Transparent. 176 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: He was accused of I don't even know if it 177 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: was sexual harassment or or just harassment or been black. 178 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: He was over his sexual harassment accusations, and then Jeffrey 179 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: Tamborg came out and he said, I vehemently deny these 180 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 1: claims and people on Twitter and social media because we're 181 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: in such a friends and and and in some ways 182 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: rightfully so, because a lot of people are straight up 183 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: guilty for these things they've done, putting your hands on 184 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: a woman, exposing you said all that while ship. But 185 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: if a man says I vehemently deny these things and 186 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: you have no proof, you can't just say, oh, it's true, 187 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: just because it's true. Yeah, because someone said it. I 188 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: came out and said this, and I said the exact 189 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: thing I just said on Twitter, and then it turned 190 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: into some other thing because it said it said like 191 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 1: in the Daily News that I was blasted after defending 192 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Tambor over sexual harassment. And first of all, I 193 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: wasn't blasted because I stand by every single thing I say. 194 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: A couple of people tweeted back this is in in 195 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: in in the in the news and the New York 196 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: Daily News. Uh, somebody said, uh, it wasn't just one person, 197 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: it was too And I said, how to funk? Do 198 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: you know? And then another person said, I'm disappointed in 199 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: your sense. Sexual assault is not new. We're in a 200 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: new age now where people, whatever the case is, it's like, yo, 201 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: you can't and if he says he vehemently denies it, 202 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: then we need to go to a court of law 203 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: and figure his ship out. Now. Jeffrey Tambor has left 204 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: the show Transparent, and he said his set, the set 205 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: that he works on, has become highly criticized. YO, innocent 206 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: until proven guilty. This man isn't guilty. But but but 207 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: that's what I'm talking about, this journalism. And then it's 208 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: just out there and like it's true, where's the evidence 209 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: this This woman pops up and says him, points at him, 210 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: where's the And I don't see how society could could 211 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: believe this person. They never even seen a picture, never 212 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: made eye contact. You can be a fucking asshole. You 213 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: could be mean, you could be rude, you could be 214 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: disrespectful and still not have sexually harassed somebody. You could 215 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: be the biggest fucking piece of shit, mean motherfucker to 216 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: work with and still not have sexually harassed anybody. And 217 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: if you did, then you need to pay the price. 218 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: But you're just being a fucking prick. Doesn't mean you 219 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: sexually harassed somebody. And that was my point. That was 220 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: my point. You say it again. I don't know how 221 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: you could get any flak. I read what you wrote 222 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: on Twitter. Yo. You you're saying I support you know. 223 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: I don't support fucking women getting harassed anything, sexually harassed, physically, 224 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: none of that. No one supports that. But in in 225 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: in our country, yo, it's innocent until proven guilty. I 226 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: just don't believe you because you said it, and you 227 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: know that's weird. Why isn't any of this going on 228 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: in France, Italy, Spain, Israel, uh, everywhere, Barcelona, Brazil. All 229 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: of a sudden, a wave of guys. Yo, you better 230 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: you better watch out, man ship. Motherfucker's gonna come at you. Yo, Yo, 231 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: trust me, Trust me. I've thought about the nineties and 232 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: that ain't my thing. I grew up in New York City. Man. 233 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: You you you put your hand on a girl were 234 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: you're not supposed you get ship smacked at you. That's 235 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: that's how I look at it, right, this little New 236 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: York Time, this little Daily News, right, and try to 237 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: say I was blasted Kate Feldman blastid you don't know 238 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: a blast it is, Kate, hold your head, hold your 239 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: head unless you want to get that. Do I need 240 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: to give it a Willie Hutch? Should there be a warning? 241 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: Not yet? Not not yet? You should you know? Let 242 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: me get that, Willie Man. You know, Kate Feldman, tell 243 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: you something, tell you something, crazy, lady. You're trying to 244 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: stir the pot on me. Good, listen to me. You 245 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: hear that, Willie you you got the wrong dude here 246 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: because I I stand by everything I says. That's right, 247 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: I said, stand by everything I said, not said. Okay, 248 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: I don't know who you is. Maybe you're mad because 249 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: I have assumed to be best selling book. This book 250 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: has bulls, sports, rants from the m v P of 251 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: talking trash. And you're at the New York Daily News 252 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: and wanna be would be smart pieces on me? The 253 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: greno man tingo, Yeah, yeah, is you is you bugging? Yeah? 254 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: You're at the New York Dailing. He was right In 255 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: a hundred fifty word little bullshit smear pieces for seventy 256 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: five hours. You're trying to come at me the greenko man. 257 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: Hold your head, Kate Felman, Yeah, write something right on 258 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: somebody else, leave le lead, leave my man alone before 259 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: you get your ass toll up. You know you don't 260 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: want it, Kate, you do not want it for me, 261 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: trust me. I don't play. Yeah, we old school New 262 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: Yorkers man, I won your whole file. Hold your hand, 263 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: Kate Felman. This is just a little Willie Hutch warning. 264 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to it. 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I thought you were. 294 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: Are you working on something now? Yeah, I've been working 295 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: on the Avengers three and four shooting that in Atlanta. 296 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: But I got a few days off, so I book 297 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: you down here to see my little family. So ship man, 298 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: So you're shooting both of those movies at the same time, 299 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: well basically basically yeah, I mean we're kind of focused 300 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: on Avengers uh four now or Infinity War two. Um. 301 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: But uh, we've been jumping back and forth between the 302 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: movies as they needed stuff. Um, but right now we're 303 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: we're in the final stretches of shoot finishing out Avengers 304 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: for and how long have you been working on these movies? 305 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: Because I've never been in a comic book movie. I 306 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: don't know if I'm ever gonna be one. I would 307 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: I would love to be in one. But like Mark, 308 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: cook me up. Man, seriously, let's go man, but that 309 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: world perfectly. Come on, man, I can put on as 310 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: you should be there. That's for damn. Sure, let's do 311 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: something man. But but how long does it take to 312 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: make these movies? So generally, um, principal photography is between 313 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: four and six months for each one. It's forever. And 314 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: how many of you have you done so for this 315 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: will be my I uh let's see it did one 316 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: to uh five now this will be five. I'm finishing. Yeah, 317 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: that's it's like shooting a TV show where you only 318 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: shoot one episode every three years, and so so you're 319 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: in the process right now, I'm shooting three and four. 320 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: So when you're shooting these movies, like the schedule, like 321 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: is it one day you could be shooting threes and 322 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: one day you could be shooting four and then the 323 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: same day you could be shooting both. And are both 324 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: the scripts finish? And how much do the scripts fluctuate 325 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 1: while you're shooting them? So depending on the movie, Like 326 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: we did Star Ragnarok and um, and and we were 327 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: improvising a ton on that movie. UM. When we did 328 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: Avengers one and two, we we weren't really allowed to 329 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: improvise at all. Um Avengers three and four, we don't 330 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: really improvise. Sometimes will throw in a joke here there 331 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: on the run. Um, But for the most part, you know, 332 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: we're shooting what they're what they're writing. But granted we 333 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 1: are getting rewrites, you know, the same day we're shooting 334 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: a script. Often times that happens and we're constantly changing it. 335 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: We'll even do we'll even reshoot a scene that we 336 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: shot a week or two previous to UH to accommodate 337 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: for script changes. But just to give you an example, 338 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: I was doing reshoots on to in one week and 339 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: it reshoots on Tour three while shooting Avengers three and 340 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: and shooting Avengers four. Damn man, buddy, I'm telling you. 341 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: And they're super super secretive, so you don't even get 342 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: the false script. You'll get like the first twenty. They 343 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: don't give the whole descript. I don't even give the 344 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: descript They'll give me like they'll let me read a 345 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: draft of it or almost finished draft, so like do 346 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: you have to read with like the arm guards around you? 347 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: Kind of like that the guy sits there outside your 348 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: door and they read it and then you gotta you 349 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: gotta sign it and then give it back to them. 350 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: And the thing's got your name plastered all over it. 351 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: And they don't give you the whole script. So they'll 352 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: give you like you'll see you'll see two or three 353 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: pages that I'll have giant blocks of texts that are 354 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,479 Speaker 1: just blocked out, blacked out. It looks like you know 355 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: some c I a wiki leakus drop or something you know. 356 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: So so man, your head is like twisted. I I 357 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a way of working that I don't 358 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: know if I'll ever get used to. You never really 359 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: know where you're ending or where you're heading, and and 360 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: so uh yeah, man, it's it's, it's it has its 361 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: own challenge. But but it's like, you know, it's an 362 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: amazing group of people and we've been doing it for 363 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: so long we know each other really well. And and 364 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: so man, I I just feel really blessed to have 365 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: this work at this moment a time. You know, I'm sure. 366 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: I'm sure because you know, people that just know you 367 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: from these movies, which I I mean people people have 368 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: to know, like you've done on stuff, you came from 369 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: smaller films and ye, man, and and to be doing 370 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: these movies, it's, I mean, was it's so far fetched, 371 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: you know. And and like when we were younger, you know, 372 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 1: I think we're close to the same age. You know, 373 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: these movies weren't even a thing, you know, no, no, no, 374 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: these were like joke movies, like you know when these 375 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: came out, you know, they were the movies. Yeah, sure 376 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: you want to see him, but you know you didn't 377 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: expect much from him, you know. And so when you're 378 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: working on on on c G I, Like, I've done 379 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: light c G I, but I've never actually done a 380 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: c G I film where I'm I'm literally like not 381 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: where it looks like, so are you? Are you sometimes 382 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: literally acting by yourself in a green room and you're 383 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: supposed to be like on top of a building or 384 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: killing somebody or like eating airplanes and ship like that. Yeah, 385 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: So a lot of the times when I'm doing fight scenes, 386 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: those are either by myself or there with a stunt man, 387 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: um playing another kid, you know, playing one of the 388 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: characters I'm fighting. UM. It used to be when I 389 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: first started doing this, Like the technology has made this 390 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: huge jump now, I mean, but when I first started 391 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: doing it, you had to do all of your face 392 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: acting sitting in a chair they do. You had to 393 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: do all your acting in two pieces. You did your 394 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: body acting, and they would capture your body movements and 395 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: you'd be acting during your lines or whatever by myself, 396 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 1: you know, looking at a tennis ball or whatever. Then 397 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: I'd have to go sit in a chair where they 398 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: basically clamped your head down so you can't move your 399 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: head when you're acting. I mean, I'm Italian man, I 400 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: move everything when I'm acting and are you? Are you thinking? 401 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: While they have you clamped down? I went to Stella, 402 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: have you motherfucker's like, I'm a trained fucking actor. I 403 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: spend my own hard earned money on acting classes, and 404 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: this is what the fund has come to. Yes, I've 405 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: had those moments like what am I I'm not a 406 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: I'm not a lab rat. I'm I'm a man. I'm 407 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: a trained actor, you know. Um. But you know, I'll 408 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: tell you the good thing about what that training was 409 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: for me is like a lot of that was imagined 410 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: when you thought theater. So you know, like you don't 411 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: have the buildings and when you're looking at you don't 412 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: have the window there, you don't have a park there 413 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: in front of you, you know, so you really learn 414 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: how to use your imagination. And oddly enough, that old 415 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: traditional form of acting works really well for the new stuff. 416 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: I see people struggling much more with it than like 417 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: the old you know, people who have had to really 418 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: develop that that that muscle which is your imagination putting 419 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: things there that aren't really there. Some people call that crazy. 420 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: Other people like you and me just call that good acting. 421 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: You know, explain to me, were explaining to the listeners 422 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 1: because I'm asked actors just because I'm not like a 423 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: classically trained not even classically trained, Like I didn't go 424 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: to that many acting uh you know classes I went 425 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: to like one, and I know, like rumor has it 426 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: you went to you were in the same acting class 427 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: at some point with Benicio, who's a friend of mine 428 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: and I always break his balls about his fucking theater 429 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: and his method acting. But but explaining in basic terms 430 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: the best you can, because at this point, I think everybody, 431 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: all actors have their own quote unquote method. You know, 432 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: obviously Daniel day Lewis has you know, these extreme uh tactics, 433 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: and you know what he does, and everybody's all fascinated 434 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: with that. But can you explain in basic terms what 435 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: method acting is? Well, okay, so that's uh, it's kind 436 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: of tough because in the in the fifties, method broke 437 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: off into two different schools. One was Lee Strasburg and 438 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: one was Stella add They were the two biggest acting 439 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: teachers basically in the world at that time, and they 440 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: were like the masters. They were like Vince Lombardo or something. 441 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: They were they were the the best coaches in the world, 442 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 1: doing the most progressive badass ship that was changed acting 443 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 1: forever and one one decided that the best way to 444 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: work was just to use all your own personal experiences. 445 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: Your dog got hit by a car, and I'm giving 446 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: you the real like the cliff Notes version of this. Yeah, 447 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,719 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, the cliff like 448 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: the basic dog got hit by a car when you're 449 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: strapped down and the Hulk might need to cry that 450 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: the old dog by hit got hit by a car 451 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: trick might be the thing that works. And like the 452 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 1: simplest straight up the alley, like my fucking dog got 453 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: hit by a car. My hamster died in the third grade. Yes, yes, 454 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: that's why I think this split is bullshit. Basically, basically 455 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: what it was saying, what the method says is that 456 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: you can't you that it's you there, that if you 457 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: if you try to pretend it's not you, then you're 458 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: telling a lie. And so you wanna you wanna either 459 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: a UM bring as much of your own UM personal 460 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: experience UH into your work so that you understand what 461 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: your character is going through. Like everyone's falling in love, 462 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: all right, so everyone could play Romeo and Juliet supposedly 463 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: because you understand the nature of what is to be 464 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: in love, or you understand the nature of what has 465 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: want to kill, you know, have revenge, we and we 466 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: have all these basic human things that we all share. 467 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: That's why we all can watch the same movie and 468 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: all like it, right. And so the school was saying, you, 469 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: we have to bring an authenticity, We have to make 470 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: this ship real, and and how we make it real 471 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: is by understanding it in our own lives. And that 472 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: was a radical concept at that time, and so that 473 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: was that's what they that's what became methods. So some 474 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: people take that to the extreme, like if they're playing Dracula, 475 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: they sleep in a coffin at home, you know, they 476 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: got to be called Dracula everywhere they go. Now, I 477 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: personally think that that's a little bit tirering. You know, 478 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: it's not it's not my thing, um the other the other. 479 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: And it's just to be like, use your imagination and 480 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: understand these things inside yourself, but then use your imagination 481 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: to lift yourself up into the material. And that's what 482 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: style I was talking about, And that's kind of that 483 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: was the next step of of the method, and it 484 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: didn't put so much weight on the things that had 485 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: happened to you in your life, but more importance on 486 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: the things that happened to the character and relating those 487 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: things to you in your life got you. I've never 488 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: worked with it. People ask us all the time, I've 489 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: never worked with somebody that was openly hardcore method. Now. 490 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: I've been around some actors that I think they actually 491 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: thought they were the character, but when they never actually 492 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: openly admitted it. Have you ever have you ever worked 493 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: with somebody that was like, please call me by the 494 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: character's name. Um, No, not really, no, I haven't. Have 495 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: you ever gotten so focused on the Hulk where you're like, no, motherfucker, 496 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: don't call me more Mr Ruffball, you call me fucking Hulk. 497 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: Like if you ever got like, We're like, Yo, the 498 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: scene is so hard, you've been doing shooting for three months. 499 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm fucking hulk. Like. If you ever told a p 500 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: a or a director or a prouser like, I'm not 501 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: fucking rough flow today, call me by my fucking character's name. Never, man, 502 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: I would be I think I'd be embarrassed to do that. 503 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: But but I will tell you this, I have had 504 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: moments where I did turn literally turn into the Hulk. 505 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: When someone's doing some crazy shit like a re light 506 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: or something in the middle of a of a scene 507 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: and you're you know, you're there, and they're like moving 508 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: the camera around, you know, just generally not being very 509 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: respectful to the moment. And I will I have had 510 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: a little Hulk burst where they did want to call 511 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: me the Hulk now, but that's far between. I mean, 512 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm sure you're you're too, but I'm sure 513 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: it's tedious. And listen, you know we're not digging ditches 514 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: and you know, acting come lucky and you know, so 515 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: I know you're not complaining. All right, kids trip out 516 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: now that you've been in so many of these movies, 517 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: like when young kids, uh and teenagers forget the adults, 518 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: but like the kids bug out when they see you 519 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: in real life, because it's one thing to be recognized 520 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: by kids, but it's another thing to be recognized for 521 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: like these films. I mean that there must be pros 522 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: and cons to that, buddy, it's a whole another thing. 523 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm walking down the streets of New York 524 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: and I'm like dog dog and it's you know, and 525 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: it's kids. And they loved the character and as I 526 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: swear to god, it says if I never did any 527 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: other movie in my life. Sometimes that's all they know. 528 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: That's all they know before, especially the kids, which is cool, 529 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure, I'm sure it's cool. Um. All right, 530 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: So I want to get into your film. So, like 531 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: I said, you you have done so many dope films 532 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: and now you're doing these bigger films as a fan 533 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: and as a participant. What do you think the state 534 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: of the movie businesses in terms of just because for me, 535 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: the biggest concern that I have is that it's not 536 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: spread aroun sound you know, you know, I don't go 537 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: to the movies as much as I used to. You know, 538 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: it's there's like big, big, big movies, and then there's 539 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: like tiny, tiny, tiny movies. Like what is your feeling 540 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: about it? Just as as a because you started as 541 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: a fan before you started being a participant and working. 542 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: We're all fans. Where's your head with it? You know? Um? 543 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's a whole different world. And that's 544 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: just basically since you and I've been acting, we went 545 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: from film to digital, and we went from you know, 546 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: one way of watching you know you have that had 547 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: TVs or TV, or you had movies, and now we 548 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: have this whole other way that people are are ingesting 549 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: UM entertainment, which is their phones and their tablets and 550 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: their laptops, and then they're streaming shipped in from the internet. 551 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: So it's like the whole thing is totally changed. And UM, 552 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: in some ways I think that it's given a lot 553 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: more people access to it. UM, there's a lot more 554 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: content that's needed. UM. Television, it right now is in 555 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: its kind of a golden era. UM. All the you know, 556 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 1: I keep thinking, you know, I keep seeing like all 557 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: the great, really great interesting stuff right now I think 558 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: is happening in television. You know, when we were younger, 559 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: you stayed away from there was two kinds of actors. 560 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: There's movie actors and television actors and not and neither 561 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: the two would meet. Um. Now it's all mashed together. 562 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: I you know, we we we're losing things and at 563 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: the same time we're gaining things. You know. That's true. 564 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: That middle size movie about families about you know, there's 565 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: personal stories that aren't so big concept and hero driven 566 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: things are I feel like right now, you know, languishing, 567 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: they're having a hard time. That said a lot of 568 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: that pay Thos, A lot of those stories have moved 569 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 1: and and really interesting complex characters have moved into the television, right. 570 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: I mean even like the film, you know, like Fox Catcher, 571 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: which was Yo, I didn't have your number. That movie 572 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: was fucking great. And when I saw the documentary afterwards, 573 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: because I had seen there was there was a couple 574 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: of documentaries before, but then I saw the film and 575 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: then I saw another documentary afterwards, and I was even 576 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: more impressed with with all three of you guys. The 577 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: whole thing was just it was dark, it was creepy, 578 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: it was spooky, and I imagine a film like that, 579 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: there's gotta be everything's got to be lined up with 580 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta get this person, you gotta get 581 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,919 Speaker 1: that person to to get the film me just from 582 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: a financial standpoint. Yeah. Yeah, So so that was that 583 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: was a really brave move from Anna Perner, who produced it. 584 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: You know who's who's new to the game. We said, 585 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 1: I want to make these difficult movies with with directors 586 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: that are doing interesting things, that have their own voice. 587 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: So you had Bennett who had already done um, he'd 588 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: already done pro and yeah, and he did Moneyball, which 589 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: your your people will appreciate. And so he was in 590 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: that sports world and um, yeah, and then you had 591 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: Channing Tatum, who who was hot, who was hot and 592 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: and who basically we hung the movie on and uh, 593 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: and then you get Steve Carrell and and so then 594 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: you got all the makings of of being able to 595 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: finance a twenty million dollar movie about wrestlers that's dark 596 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: and creepy and scary. Um and so yeah, that kind 597 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 1: of movie is probably a little bit more difficult to make, 598 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: but that's also the kind of movie that a lot 599 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: of actors and directors want to be making. You know, 600 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,240 Speaker 1: what was he like? Um, Steve Carrell? Because he seems 601 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 1: like is he and I'm just saying he wanted you 602 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 1: to call him the character, but he seems like he 603 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: slips in the character and he's like in the character. Well, yes, 604 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: the one person that I did work with who seemed 605 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: to stay in character all the time with Steve, and 606 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 1: I totally kind of forgot about that. But I would see, 607 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: first of all, he was so weird that literally I 608 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: I'd run away from him when I'd see him on 609 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: set because he just freaked me out. And yeah, he 610 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: had the nose and the teeth and that kind of 611 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: weird awkward. You know, he stayed in character, so it 612 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: was very weird and awkward every time we ran into 613 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: each other. And that's kind of I think the relationship 614 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: that Dave had with characters playing had with him, So 615 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 1: you know, we were both sort of playing into that. 616 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: One day, I was in the uh, I was at 617 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: the hotel. We had a hard day's work. It was 618 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: a long day. It was fucking brutally cold, and I 619 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,919 Speaker 1: rolled in a linna. It was a really hard movie 620 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 1: to work out, man. It was it was dark. It 621 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: was totally cheerless. We were shooting in the dark, it was. 622 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 1: And anyway, I rolled in and im and I was 623 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: wrestling after work every day. I had to go to 624 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,760 Speaker 1: wrestling practice. Um. So it's just like one of those 625 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: really intense things. I walk in and he's an elevator 626 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: and uh, I look at him and now he's he's Steve. 627 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: I could tell he's Steve, and I'm like, how's it going, man? 628 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: And we really don't. We really didn't talk to each other, 629 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: and we were working. We rarely worked together this day. Everywhere, like, 630 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: how's it going, man, He's like, I don't know what 631 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: the funk I'm doing. And I was like, Buddy, you 632 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: and me both, I do not know whether I'm coming 633 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: or going on this thing. And uh, that was a 634 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 1: real moment that we had. And I know we were 635 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 1: feeling that because Bennet Bennett's you know, benn it's a 636 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: tough director. Well what do you mean by that? Explain 637 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: why why he's a tough director? Okay, so you know 638 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 1: he purposely so we all have our thing that we do, 639 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 1: you know that we feel comfortable doing. We know, you 640 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,439 Speaker 1: come in and you kind of have an idea how 641 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: how do you think it should go? And you kind of, 642 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: you know, you kind of have your comfort zone. You 643 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:13,240 Speaker 1: think you feel you know your character and in there, 644 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: and inevitably, uh Bennett would think that was the wrong 645 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: way to go. And so you you just and and 646 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: then you spent the day just stripping all that back 647 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: into being the most uncomfortable version of the scene that 648 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 1: you could possibly imagine it being. And and so you know, 649 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,399 Speaker 1: he would just be like, no, I I feel like 650 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: it's it's two wrote or I see you acting or 651 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: or um you know, I think it needs to be 652 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: a little bit more. Let's just keep doing it again 653 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: and again and again or raw or do do you 654 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: as an actor? Are you like, yo, I'm doing it 655 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,839 Speaker 1: the same fucking way. I don't no matter what you're 656 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 1: ang Do you feel like it worked? Yeah? I do, 657 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: because you know, because eventually what happens is is you 658 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: just kind of you break a little bit in that 659 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 1: space of like not knowing what you're doing anymore, or 660 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: or there's a kind of vulnerability that works really well 661 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: on film, you know, and it's real because you're frustrated 662 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: and you're and you're sort of like, you know, trying 663 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 1: to find your footing. And and he that's what he likes. 664 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 1: He loves that kind of that kind of space, especially 665 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:37,760 Speaker 1: for those people. And so um, it was just that's 666 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 1: that could be disturbed being was like, how many like 667 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: is he? Is? He like a person who makes you 668 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: do a lot of takes. Sometimes you do a lot 669 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: of takes. Um a lot of times you'll start with 670 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: the scene one way and then he'll throw you a 671 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 1: line or your or your or you'll you'll start heading 672 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: in a totally different direction and it will be you know, 673 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: he's like he'll do a gesture like the scene is 674 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,359 Speaker 1: kind of like this, you know, like you just kind 675 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 1: of gently touched my shoulder in this kind of reassuring 676 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: way that that sort of tells you or told me 677 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: kind of the nature of the way Dave was dealing 678 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: with his brother. So a scene that was simply that 679 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: seemed antagonistic to me. It seemed like it was two 680 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: brothers fighting was really a scene about one brother like 681 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: kind of gently trying to support another brother, even though 682 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: it seemed like it was being a little bit antagonist. 683 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,240 Speaker 1: I got you, I got you. That makes sense, especially 684 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: with the with the way there was so much subtext 685 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: in that movie and so much like it's just like 686 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,879 Speaker 1: what's going on here between the three? Like who's being one? 687 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: And yeah side yeah, and they all had like they 688 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: were all super complex people. Man, there was no like 689 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: good guy, and so you're as an actor, you want 690 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 1: to play the good guy, you know, And then and 691 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: he's like, no, no, nobody's a good guy in life. 692 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 1: We'll all have a little bit of funked up doing us, 693 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: you know. And and what about David Fincher, You worked 694 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,959 Speaker 1: with him on Zodiac. He's the one that I hear 695 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: like sixty seven takes seven takes and it's like when 696 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 1: you're literally across the street. Is that real with him? Yeah? Man, 697 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 1: So my first day of working with him, he you know, 698 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: my first day of working with him, we did sixty 699 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: seven takes and it was like what kind of scene 700 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 1: it was. It was a walk and talk and it's 701 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 1: me and Jake. We come out of the courthouse, and 702 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 1: it's it's it's towards the end of the movie. We 703 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: started towards the end of the movie Saw. I was 704 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 1: already like, I don't know what the fun is going on. 705 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 1: But we started towards the end of the movie. It 706 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: was my first day and we come out of the 707 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: courthouse and we have about a half a page scene 708 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: where we're walking and talking and there's maybe sixty extras 709 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 1: all placed around us and behind us, moving this way 710 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 1: and that. It's a crane shot on a long long 711 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 1: crane arm, which is, you know, the cameras on the 712 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: end of a long long stick basically for your viewers, 713 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 1: for your listeners, and and they're moving it back on 714 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 1: a on a dolly. So it's this big, kind of 715 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: elaborate moving shot. And I'm the actor, so I'm just thinking, oh, 716 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's about me and Jake and the scene 717 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: and we're talking it's about us, you know, and and 718 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: we're doing it over and over and over, and now 719 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 1: I'm starting it's starting to wear. I mean, like, dude, 720 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,240 Speaker 1: he hates what I'm doing, that's what this is about 721 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,839 Speaker 1: he and he doesn't know how to fix it, so 722 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 1: I guess keeps reshooting it, right, And we're up there. 723 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 1: We're like, well, now we're about like take take forty 724 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 1: or whatever. And I see him over there and he's 725 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 1: not looking happy, right, And I'm like, god, damn, what 726 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,240 Speaker 1: am I doing? And I like, that's it, Ruffalo, You're 727 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: the wrong guy for this part. And you know, Sean 728 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 1: was the one that they should have got. You know, 729 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 1: maybe he's available. Nah, it's cool, they'll still pay you, 730 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 1: but you know you're ready they I'm talking to myself. 731 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,760 Speaker 1: I'm talking to myself and being fired, like just making 732 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 1: trying to make it okay for what's gonna happen. And 733 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 1: I see Fincher, he's belining for me now, and it's 734 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: like here it comes up a little. That's it. He's 735 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 1: he's had it. You did your best, try not to 736 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 1: take it too hard in the morning. Everything, Yeah, to 737 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 1: get me a flight. You may have had this conversation 738 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,800 Speaker 1: at some point as an actor. Most of us do. 739 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 1: And uh and and you know, he came right for me. 740 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 1: He walked past me. He goes to the there's a 741 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: there's a standard, i mean a background artist a few 742 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,879 Speaker 1: people behind me. He moved that, dude, I'm telling you, 743 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: he moved that to three inches. There's sixty of them, 744 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 1: m hm. And he started walking back and he pats 745 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 1: me on the back because he's going. Gives me a 746 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,319 Speaker 1: nice slap on the back, you know, and he passes me, 747 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:14,800 Speaker 1: and I think, oh, okay, Well, this mother bucker is 748 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 1: do he's he's he's shooting the whole picture. He's not. 749 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 1: He's not. I'm just I'm just ten percent of the frame. 750 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 1: You know, he's going for. What he's going for is eternity. Man. 751 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 1: This guy is like, this guy is shooting and he's 752 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 1: a perfectionist and he's not going to stop until he 753 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: gets it. And after, after I squared with that, I 754 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,280 Speaker 1: was okay. And that's how it was the whole time shooting. 755 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 1: It was the whole time. I mean sometimes it was 756 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 1: thirty takes, sometimes it was fifteen, sometimes it was seventeen. 757 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,360 Speaker 1: Sometimes it was twenty but at that point I knew okay, 758 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,959 Speaker 1: and and that's he was one of the first people 759 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 1: who moved to digital from film and he had so 760 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:58,240 Speaker 1: back then, you there was no erasing a take. You 761 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,719 Speaker 1: you you saved everything, you shot everything. You say that. 762 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 1: He had a special button made that would delete a take, 763 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 1: And literally we would be in take twenty five and 764 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:15,359 Speaker 1: I'd hear him say delete take one through like none 765 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 1: of that's good, Like we're starting and you know, like 766 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 1: a fucking I faking it and seen and seventeen like 767 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,359 Speaker 1: you knew that was the take, right, and you hear that. 768 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 1: You're like me at this point, like you know, like 769 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 1: I get more Like when I was younger, I'd be like, oh, 770 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,399 Speaker 1: you're just here, like I don't know. But now as 771 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,320 Speaker 1: you get more experienced and you have more saying you 772 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 1: sort of understand the process more, will you be like 773 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 1: if you worked with him now or a director like 774 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: that now, we'd be like, you know, what the fund 775 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:51,359 Speaker 1: do you want? Like or you'll just keep going. No, man, 776 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 1: I just keep going. I signed on right, you know, 777 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 1: I just see like this is his this is their trip, 778 00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 1: this is how to do it. I'm gonna try and 779 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 1: comment at it the best I can. I might get 780 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 1: frustrated with it at times, but I just keep trying 781 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 1: to let it go. You know, Um, what's your best 782 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 1: More in Scorsese stories from Shutter Island. Well, so it's 783 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 1: Martin Scorsese man. And I'm like, you know, he's he's 784 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 1: He's he's the guy we we all that was the 785 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,399 Speaker 1: one that we all grew up watching. We all saw 786 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,359 Speaker 1: the great acting, we all wanted to work with. So 787 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:32,719 Speaker 1: I expected this really kind of like heavy, heavy acting 788 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 1: trip from him, you know, And um, that's not his 789 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:41,799 Speaker 1: thing really, you know, he doesn't. I mean, he likes 790 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 1: to work with the actors, but he doesn't get into 791 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 1: a whole all the psychological stuff, which is which is 792 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 1: what I was kind of hoping for. And I was, 793 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 1: you know, trying to impress him by telling them all 794 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 1: the character work. I was doing this, but and he 795 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,880 Speaker 1: just wanted to run away from me basically. And the 796 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 1: one day he came up to me and this is 797 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 1: this is an exemplified his directing as far as the 798 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 1: acting was going. And it came up was like, yeah, 799 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, it seems uh, you know, it works 800 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 1: well on the page, just for some reason. It's just 801 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,479 Speaker 1: just I don't know, maybe he needs to um, maybe 802 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 1: needs to I don't know. He's snapping his fingers means 803 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,440 Speaker 1: to uh. And I said, go faster. He's like, yeah, yeah, 804 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:27,919 Speaker 1: let's try that. And that was probably the most notary 805 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 1: I got from him on that on that movie, you know, 806 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 1: And I was like, that's okay, I'll think I could 807 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 1: do that. I know how to do that. That's something 808 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 1: I definitely know how to do. But you know, he's 809 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,880 Speaker 1: a genius and he's a master, and he's when you 810 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 1: see him at work and you see what he does 811 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 1: with the camera. He it's all storytelling as far as 812 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,880 Speaker 1: cinema goes. That dude is like the master of cinema. 813 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 1: And so he doesn't he doesn't. He hires people who 814 00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:00,040 Speaker 1: knows just knows their ship clearly, and he doesn't it 815 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,840 Speaker 1: down into the muck. He's he's like focused on telling 816 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,959 Speaker 1: that story cinematically, and you do. You do your job, 817 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 1: and he'll do his job and you'll end up okay, 818 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 1: you know, all right, tell me the actor or acting 819 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,360 Speaker 1: experiences where you've been across from somebody, you're doing a 820 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 1: scene from somebody where you were just like funck. This 821 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,920 Speaker 1: person is good. Like you can name a couple of 822 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 1: people like where you were just like whoa this motherfucker? 823 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,240 Speaker 1: Were you just kind of like you're you're taken by 824 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:33,319 Speaker 1: their talent. Well, Joaquin Phoenix is like still I think. 825 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 1: I think he's one of the greatest actors of our generation. 826 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 1: Uh and and we haven't even seen what that kid's 827 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 1: gonna do. Kid, but but um, you know, I was 828 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 1: doing a reservation road with him, which was kind of 829 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,759 Speaker 1: you know, like a small indie movie. Um. And there's 830 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 1: a Manoma Mano scene, and um, you know his character 831 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,800 Speaker 1: basically I I killed his son in a car accident 832 00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 1: and hit and run, you know, and he does a 833 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 1: vigilante tracks me down and and the the final scene 834 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: in the movie. First of all, we only bump into 835 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,800 Speaker 1: each other like once or twice during the whole movie. 836 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,319 Speaker 1: Finally we bumped into each other and he knows what 837 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,799 Speaker 1: I had done, and he kidnaps me. He puts me 838 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:21,239 Speaker 1: in the in the back of his car, and he 839 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 1: scared the ship out of me. And we had one 840 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 1: we had a scene where he drags Matt He's gonna 841 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 1: kill me. You know. It's a big emotional moment for 842 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 1: both of us. And then it was like a blur 843 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,840 Speaker 1: to me this scene and it and it became in 844 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:42,839 Speaker 1: this the improvisation that was just I mean, it's one 845 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 1: of those perfect moments, and it just was so lived 846 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 1: into and felt so real and crazy and out of 847 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:55,759 Speaker 1: control and and still was telling the story, you know, 848 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't being self indulgent, and still like I felt 849 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:04,879 Speaker 1: totally comfortable in his presence, you know. And oh man, 850 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,879 Speaker 1: he's so damn good. Tilda Swinton I just worked with. 851 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 1: She was amazing. She's a she is franking unbelievably good 852 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:21,560 Speaker 1: and present and and playful and sweet and funny. Um uh. 853 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 1: A little bit with Kate Blanchett, another amazing actress. Now 854 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 1: these are like, you know, foreign actress is there, you know, 855 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:34,959 Speaker 1: supposedly well trained. Is Kate Blanchet? Cool? So cool? She's 856 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 1: like Oscar winner every fucking year, She's Oscar's princess. Yeah, 857 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 1: so humble, so cool. The best ones are are humble 858 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 1: and cool. That that's been my experience. The ones who 859 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 1: are just like I think that are just real and 860 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,440 Speaker 1: the best and just they're not really movie stars, but 861 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 1: there are movie stars are like super actors, but they 862 00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,160 Speaker 1: happened to be movie stars. That movie stars first are 863 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,439 Speaker 1: always the coolest. And give me one more person where 864 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,400 Speaker 1: you were working with either even you're just like fanning 865 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 1: out like I mean, like I not not fanning because 866 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 1: when you're there working with them, you're you're you're working 867 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:13,759 Speaker 1: with him. But like me, I got the chance to 868 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 1: work with de Niro twice and and I'm meaning the 869 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,360 Speaker 1: ship I'm working with him, but you know, in between takes, 870 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,799 Speaker 1: I'm like looking at him like there's the mole like 871 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,719 Speaker 1: there his face, like like you know, like was who 872 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,400 Speaker 1: was the experienced like when you were younger that you 873 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,800 Speaker 1: were like Redford Redford? Yeah, man, I did a movie 874 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,520 Speaker 1: It's Redford. It was like it was like my third movie, 875 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 1: like like it was like a big movie, Last Castle. Yeah. 876 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 1: And and there I was, I'm doing like full on 877 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 1: four or five page scenes that's red for Mano a Mano, 878 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,440 Speaker 1: like full on like and and I going at it 879 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,120 Speaker 1: at each other, you know, and um and I was, 880 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:55,680 Speaker 1: man I was, I was passing my pants, you know, 881 00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 1: you know how it is. And you're across from these 882 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,879 Speaker 1: people that you know, they're icons, are your heroes, right, 883 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,879 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh am I gonna act with 884 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 1: this guy? How amNY? I'm quaking my boots. I'm like, 885 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,480 Speaker 1: how a many we gonna remember my life? Right? You know? 886 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 1: You know you're like, am I gonna blow this? I'm 887 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,760 Speaker 1: gonna mess this up? And that dude was so chill 888 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 1: and cool and invited me, you know, to hang out 889 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 1: between setups and and really put me at ease. But 890 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,360 Speaker 1: but you know, there he is. There's the mole, there's 891 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 1: the smile, There's there's the blue eyes, blueist eyes. You know, 892 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:40,920 Speaker 1: there's the there's the all American, like seriously socially minded 893 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:46,080 Speaker 1: dope cat. You know my last question, I'm gonna let 894 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:47,960 Speaker 1: you go. I appreciate this to people are gonna love that. 895 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 1: The fans are gonna love this, and I I just 896 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,239 Speaker 1: I love that you're sharing all the ship. Oh no, man, 897 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,880 Speaker 1: I acted to actor this is. I know it's interchangeable. Okay, 898 00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:00,520 Speaker 1: so it's interchangeable. Uh, don't feel any any um allegiance 899 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 1: today your top five movies of all time. I know 900 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 1: it's hard, it's only it's only five, But just for today, 901 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:12,960 Speaker 1: don't feel guilty about leaving anybody out. Oh man, um 902 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:20,759 Speaker 1: ship on the Waterfront, um probably of course The Godfather 903 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 1: one Brando. I'm I'm a big Brando fan. Um, Last 904 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,080 Speaker 1: Tango in Paris. I think it's amazing. Eternal Sunshine to 905 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,920 Speaker 1: the Spotless Mind. Yeah, I'm in that one, and I 906 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,759 Speaker 1: really I have a small part in it. But I 907 00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 1: just think that's a really beautiful movie. That's that's like, 908 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:41,879 Speaker 1: that's cool. And I get to say I was in 909 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:47,719 Speaker 1: that one. Um, so that's three. Um uh you know 910 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 1: what I just saw that. I just think an amazing movie, 911 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:56,239 Speaker 1: which is a French movie was helped the prophet. That 912 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,759 Speaker 1: was really good. Man, I put I put that up there. 913 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 1: It's that good. Huh oh man, it's so good. I 914 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,360 Speaker 1: mean it's messy. It's like it's definitely like has the 915 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:11,160 Speaker 1: indie indie spirit to it. Um and then um, one 916 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:17,839 Speaker 1: more one more just um oh man, a's a what's 917 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:26,560 Speaker 1: a great American? Uh? I mean I guess scar Face Okay, okay, 918 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,560 Speaker 1: that's a good one. I mean it's interchangeable. Yeah yeah. 919 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,719 Speaker 1: I mean if you ask me another time and give 920 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,400 Speaker 1: me a couple of minutes, I know I'd have another 921 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 1: whole another slew of them. All right, Well, listen, yo, Mark, 922 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:41,400 Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on a podcast. Thanks man. I 923 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,239 Speaker 1: appreciate you too. Man. 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Black Friday sale. 943 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 1: All right, Yo, I really want to thank my man, 944 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,680 Speaker 1: Mark Ruffalo for uh coming on the pockets. You know, 945 00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,799 Speaker 1: it's funny. I've only we've only met each other in 946 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,759 Speaker 1: person one time, and Ruffalo, but we we we got 947 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people in common, and uh, you know, 948 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:18,360 Speaker 1: we didn't talk a lot about politics, but he's outspoken 949 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:22,880 Speaker 1: on the front lines about everything he believes in protests 950 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,400 Speaker 1: and Trump protests. I mean, he's he's really out there. 951 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,960 Speaker 1: And and you know it's crazy because he had a 952 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:34,760 Speaker 1: lot at steak yeah, you know, and and he you know, 953 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 1: he he doesn't back down. He speaks out on on 954 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:41,800 Speaker 1: on pro life, pro choice, trump all, I mean, the environment. 955 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 1: He's he's actually one of the first people, uh you know, 956 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:51,360 Speaker 1: as in the last twenty years who's been really outspoken 957 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,760 Speaker 1: on social media about this stuff. So uh, Mark Ruffalo, 958 00:57:56,040 --> 00:58:02,080 Speaker 1: Uh that was a dope interview, man. So uh oh, 959 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,680 Speaker 1: I wanna you mentioned Trump. I want to give Trump 960 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 1: a shout out from getting them boys home. He didn't 961 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,200 Speaker 1: have to do that, that's not in his job description 962 00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,480 Speaker 1: as the president, but he got him home. So you 963 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,160 Speaker 1: gotta give this cat some credit. You're telling about lo 964 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:21,120 Speaker 1: Angelo Balls, yeah, and those guys that was doing some steel. 965 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:23,920 Speaker 1: He says. He he says he had something to do 966 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:28,320 Speaker 1: with it. Yeah. Uh, he says he has something to 967 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 1: do with it. I I take what he says that 968 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,680 Speaker 1: like a like a crazy guy on the corner who's 969 00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,920 Speaker 1: drinking that that moonshine. Yo. They let him out immediately 970 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,320 Speaker 1: after that. They just you get ten years for stealing 971 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,600 Speaker 1: out there. Yo. I'm just saying, no, give the give 972 00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 1: demand credit everybody. My guy, LaVar Ball disputes that Trump 973 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:49,560 Speaker 1: had anything to do with it. Oh you believe P. T. Barnum. 974 00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 1: Come on, I'm just saying I'm just saying that. Uh, 975 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,080 Speaker 1: and and and the thing about Trump getting him out. 976 00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,760 Speaker 1: He goes on Twitter while the kids are still on 977 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:04,240 Speaker 1: the fucking plane from China. Yeah, they're still on the 978 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,960 Speaker 1: plane from China, and he's and he's on Twitter asking 979 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,840 Speaker 1: for them to apologize. I'm asking for them to say 980 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,760 Speaker 1: thank you. These are nineteen year ol kids. They probably 981 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:15,920 Speaker 1: had the ship scared at him. They're still on the plane. 982 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 1: He's like, you you you should say thank you. And 983 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:23,520 Speaker 1: then when they said thank you, and then LaVar Ball 984 00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:27,120 Speaker 1: came back and you know said what I just said, 985 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,400 Speaker 1: basically saying like he didn't have anything to do with it, 986 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:30,880 Speaker 1: or he didn't have as much to do it as 987 00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:37,440 Speaker 1: he's saying. Alla allah. Trump tweets again, I should have 988 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,200 Speaker 1: left him in jail, But what he wanted to say 989 00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 1: was I should have left their black asses in jail. Hey, 990 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:51,360 Speaker 1: economy is doing well, has been doing well. That ain't 991 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,320 Speaker 1: that ain't from him? Two terms from Mr Trump, but 992 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:58,040 Speaker 1: they will attribute it. It would be attributed to to 993 00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Mr Trump out, just like the economy was doing well Obama. 994 01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:07,320 Speaker 1: They didn't attribute ship to Obama. Well what what what? 995 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:12,800 Speaker 1: What's the what's the one fucking factor? He won't be 996 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,240 Speaker 1: two terms. There's no way he'll make it all right, 997 01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,720 Speaker 1: There's no way he will make it. Him and his 998 01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:26,320 Speaker 1: crew are dropping like flies. Uh. You gotta admire a guy. 999 01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,160 Speaker 1: You may not like the politics and all that, but 1000 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,560 Speaker 1: you gotta admire a guy who's standing right there, taking 1001 01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:38,800 Speaker 1: all his shots and still still being himself and telling 1002 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:43,280 Speaker 1: it like it is. He's tweeting about marsha Lynch. This 1003 01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:47,040 Speaker 1: guy's a fucking joke. He tweeted about Marshawn Lynch not 1004 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,320 Speaker 1: standing for the anthem, and he's like, you know what 1005 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,440 Speaker 1: it is all is? You know that Trump tried to 1006 01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:56,240 Speaker 1: buy the Buffalo bills I think in two thousand fourteen, yea, 1007 01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,240 Speaker 1: and the NFL wouldn't let him. He got a herd 1008 01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:03,120 Speaker 1: on for the buff flow for for the NFL. So 1009 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,520 Speaker 1: he got him over a barrel. Now you don't really 1010 01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,560 Speaker 1: have him over a barrel. No one cares. And he's 1011 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,880 Speaker 1: talking about the ratings are good, The ratings are great 1012 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 1: in the NFL. They're great. This guy'll say anything to 1013 01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,800 Speaker 1: to to try to, you know, prove his point. He 1014 01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:21,680 Speaker 1: doesn't care. He's moral less. You know who else is 1015 01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,040 Speaker 1: moral list And this is gonna be a great segue 1016 01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:27,640 Speaker 1: into the sick funk of the Week. This award is earned, 1017 01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,440 Speaker 1: not given. It's called being sick fucking a week. This 1018 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,400 Speaker 1: guy is really sick. Lock him up? How could you 1019 01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:38,080 Speaker 1: do it? Don't let him out? Damn when you fuck 1020 01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,720 Speaker 1: the door, you want you fuck the door? Why would 1021 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 1: he fuck the dog? Why would you fuck your girlfriend's dog? What? 1022 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:49,760 Speaker 1: Sick fuck? The sick funck of the week, it's earned, earned, 1023 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:59,800 Speaker 1: not giving. You did what? No, no, no, yes, this 1024 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,480 Speaker 1: a sick funk of the Week segment. Is is is an 1025 01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:04,960 Speaker 1: award that is not given. This an award that has 1026 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:13,440 Speaker 1: earned not given West Goodman, oh West Goodman, who is 1027 01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:21,919 Speaker 1: the Republican state legislator for Ohio, conservative Christian values right 1028 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:27,880 Speaker 1: wing legislator pushed family values. Trump guy, one of the 1029 01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:32,640 Speaker 1: most uh, one of the most frontline guys are anti 1030 01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:41,680 Speaker 1: gay YEP was reportedly witnessed having sex with a man 1031 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:48,520 Speaker 1: inside his office Couldn't Wait, who was not employed by 1032 01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:57,600 Speaker 1: the legislator day shame, embarrassment. I don't care if you're 1033 01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,280 Speaker 1: gay or not. But if you are on the front 1034 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:04,320 Speaker 1: lines of being anti gay, anti l g b t Q, 1035 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:09,280 Speaker 1: good for you. I wonder was he taking or receiving 1036 01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:15,320 Speaker 1: I don't care. This is sweet, sweet irony, sweet justice 1037 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:20,400 Speaker 1: that this happened. Yes, yes, it's an indicator of of 1038 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:26,520 Speaker 1: this is when gods like this run campaigns on how 1039 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:30,320 Speaker 1: they are anti gay and this and that without any 1040 01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:34,240 Speaker 1: type of you know, provoking from the gay community, just 1041 01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:39,200 Speaker 1: attacking them, then that's an that's indicative of what we 1042 01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,320 Speaker 1: just But what you just spoke about, I mean, what 1043 01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:47,520 Speaker 1: is your problem. This is a part of your political agenda. 1044 01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:51,120 Speaker 1: So now you might as well come out and embrace 1045 01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:57,120 Speaker 1: that community that you lambasted. Embrace it because you're engaging 1046 01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,280 Speaker 1: in it. So and you know what, you know what. 1047 01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,480 Speaker 1: I don't know much, but I will say this, the 1048 01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:06,360 Speaker 1: LGBTQ community are some of the most compassionate people because 1049 01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,320 Speaker 1: they've been all They've all been ostracized, they've all dealt 1050 01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:17,440 Speaker 1: severe shame, embarrassment, humiliation, and and and and and uh 1051 01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:25,160 Speaker 1: what's the word um injustices? Yeah, and prejudices. I guarantee 1052 01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,919 Speaker 1: you they would embrace this fucking sick fuck. They're gonna 1053 01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:32,120 Speaker 1: embrace the more than the Iron Reports stereo podcast. Look, duke, 1054 01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:38,440 Speaker 1: we're not embracing you, d LGBT community. They will embrace 1055 01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:43,000 Speaker 1: you because they're compassionate people. We're just calling you a 1056 01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:48,280 Speaker 1: sick fuck word. Accept your truth. Go with your man. 1057 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:52,320 Speaker 1: Divorce your wife. Go with your man that you was 1058 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,880 Speaker 1: wearing out in the office. Go to Thailand. Get it 1059 01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:58,400 Speaker 1: popping man, get your vogue on, do your thing. Divorce 1060 01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:02,240 Speaker 1: your wife, you know, let her, let her be free, 1061 01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:05,280 Speaker 1: let her live her life with with a man who 1062 01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,560 Speaker 1: understands who he is. You obviously didn't understand you was, 1063 01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,040 Speaker 1: and and and come out of the closet. There's a 1064 01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:15,760 Speaker 1: there's there's plenty of people in the LGBT community, l 1065 01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,640 Speaker 1: g b t Q community that will embrace you with 1066 01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:22,760 Speaker 1: love and open arms sincerely and totally understand the shame 1067 01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:26,440 Speaker 1: that you had and forgive you for being such a 1068 01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:29,520 Speaker 1: fuck again. I just have to say, we're not gonna 1069 01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:33,560 Speaker 1: forgive you over here and there's a caveat to the story. 1070 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,960 Speaker 1: He he They found he was sucking with at least 1071 01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:46,520 Speaker 1: forty men. Of course, Oh snap chatting picked up his pipe. Yo, 1072 01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,040 Speaker 1: what kind of guys this yo? Come out and run 1073 01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:54,280 Speaker 1: on a l G B t Q ABC run. We're 1074 01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:58,480 Speaker 1: run on that ship now, exactly exactly. You might get 1075 01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,280 Speaker 1: elected in twenty years if you if you come to 1076 01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:03,960 Speaker 1: terms of who you are, and you make amends for 1077 01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,040 Speaker 1: all the ship that you've said and all that the 1078 01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:09,440 Speaker 1: lying and fairy tales you pushed out there in the world. 1079 01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:14,080 Speaker 1: Make the world a better place. Yeah, that's your opportunity 1080 01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:15,760 Speaker 1: to make the world a better place because you've been 1081 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,720 Speaker 1: living a lie. You fuck you? Ye shame't you? Shame 1082 01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:22,280 Speaker 1: your whole family? You shame that gay community? You part 1083 01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,200 Speaker 1: of it? What the fund is you doing? Yeah? Who 1084 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:28,760 Speaker 1: can you leave these people alone? Were another sick fuck? 1085 01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:36,600 Speaker 1: Conservative State Senator Ralph Shorty. Ralph Shorty, Now, if you 1086 01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:38,960 Speaker 1: never heard the term. It's an old school term called 1087 01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:42,480 Speaker 1: short eyes. Look up the term short eyes. It's a 1088 01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:46,120 Speaker 1: term they use in prison for child molesters. This child 1089 01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:51,560 Speaker 1: molester Ralph Shorty. And there's nothing funny about this. There's 1090 01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,640 Speaker 1: nothing funny about Ralph Shorty being an actual short eyes 1091 01:06:54,920 --> 01:07:00,000 Speaker 1: conservative state senator who once wanted to be a missionary, 1092 01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:08,200 Speaker 1: was accused, pleaded guilty. And this guy is Trump, a 1093 01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:17,200 Speaker 1: Trump campaign coordinator. Oh man, he set everything up. Sex 1094 01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:21,360 Speaker 1: trafficking of a minor carries a minimum sentence of ten 1095 01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:26,040 Speaker 1: years in prison, but Shorty could be sent to life 1096 01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:31,280 Speaker 1: in prison for the offense. The hearing goes down two eighteen. 1097 01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:37,600 Speaker 1: This is a true sick man with kids engaging in 1098 01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:47,280 Speaker 1: child prostitution, transporting a minor for prostitution, engaging in prostitution 1099 01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:51,600 Speaker 1: within a thousand feet of a church. You sick fucking man? 1100 01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:56,000 Speaker 1: Why why why a trial? See this ship? You put 1101 01:07:56,040 --> 01:08:01,600 Speaker 1: this ship in the paper? I believe that, Yo, Why 1102 01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:07,640 Speaker 1: even a trial? You don't deserve a trial? Kids, Okay, 1103 01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,040 Speaker 1: I mean just this is this guy is in that 1104 01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:14,400 Speaker 1: administration now, oh no, he's in fucking jail. He probably 1105 01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:17,320 Speaker 1: already got that wonder bread bag treatment. He's gonna get 1106 01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,479 Speaker 1: that wonder bread bag in olive oil treatment for the 1107 01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:24,599 Speaker 1: rest of his life. Oh yeah, oh yes, these guys 1108 01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,719 Speaker 1: are sick out of here. Oh this is a real 1109 01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:32,080 Speaker 1: sick fuck. Yes, yes, another sick funk. We got this 1110 01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:35,519 Speaker 1: from the Daily Mail. This is the sick funk of 1111 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:43,320 Speaker 1: the week manifesto. Uh. This man in China had a 1112 01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:48,880 Speaker 1: padlock stuck in his bladder after inserting it in his penis. Wait, 1113 01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:50,720 Speaker 1: I have to I have to stop. Is this a 1114 01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:55,000 Speaker 1: sick funk or dumb fuck? Hey he's sick. Why do 1115 01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,280 Speaker 1: you put a little padlock in you in your little 1116 01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:01,720 Speaker 1: your little fortune cookie, my man. Yeah, he's trying to 1117 01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:07,719 Speaker 1: get his ship more, trying to get a little more harder. Yo, 1118 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:11,960 Speaker 1: this guy is sick, and yeah they need to I 1119 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:13,519 Speaker 1: wish I wish it would have got cut off. I 1120 01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,280 Speaker 1: wish the doctors would have said, oh, we can't save this. 1121 01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:26,599 Speaker 1: That's what you get. Finally, a Colombian teacher, another sick fuck, 1122 01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:29,759 Speaker 1: threatened to fail her students. It's a forty year old woman, 1123 01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:34,679 Speaker 1: very attractive. She threatened to uh to fail her students, 1124 01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:37,920 Speaker 1: the young boys, and if they did not have sex 1125 01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:44,960 Speaker 1: with her. Now she's facing forty years in jail. Damn, 1126 01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:48,920 Speaker 1: this is a nut job too. And and these casts 1127 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:52,200 Speaker 1: are seventeen sixty. Man, damn, this is a sick Oh. 1128 01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:57,160 Speaker 1: But she's like forcing him to do it. Yeah, Yo, 1129 01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:01,639 Speaker 1: what's going on? I don't know why. It's a common theme. Gee, listen, 1130 01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:03,640 Speaker 1: you you need to you need to work on the 1131 01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:06,320 Speaker 1: Wonder bread Bag and Olive Oil theme song because this 1132 01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:09,720 Speaker 1: is like a common thing. Yeah, we've we've been doing 1133 01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,240 Speaker 1: it for years with this ship. All right, So we're 1134 01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:16,360 Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna make some good music for that. Um. 1135 01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:20,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what else. It's the holiday season coming up. UM, 1136 01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,479 Speaker 1: I can tell you we have some great podcast coming up. 1137 01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:26,040 Speaker 1: We got Muggsy Bogues, we got Matt Bournes, we got 1138 01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:33,880 Speaker 1: Bradley Beal. We're not playing games, all right, We're not 1139 01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:37,320 Speaker 1: playing games. It's the Iron rapp Reports Stereo Podcast, d 1140 01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:42,479 Speaker 1: worldwide phenomenon. I want to thank Mark Ruffalo again for 1141 01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:47,160 Speaker 1: joining the Iron Rapport Stereo Podcast. It was dope it 1142 01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:50,040 Speaker 1: was some actor's studio ship, but it wasn't. The actor's 1143 01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:53,840 Speaker 1: studio is the Iron Rapports Stereo Podcast. Uh my name 1144 01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:58,320 Speaker 1: is Michael Rapport, a K. Michael Rapper crap uh G Moody. 1145 01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,599 Speaker 1: Last name rhymes with duty. Two thousand fifteen. Two thousand 1146 01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,559 Speaker 1: sixteen podcast Coast of the Year. What can I say? 1147 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:08,519 Speaker 1: We've done, have a healthy, happy Thanksgiving, enjoy yourself. We 1148 01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:09,759 Speaker 1: out out