WEBVTT - What Is Pennsylvania? December 27th, Hour 3

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<v Speaker 1>All right, this is Jeffrey Lord filling in for our

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<v Speaker 1>friend Sean Hannity. You can call us at eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and nine four one seven, three two six, And we

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<v Speaker 1>are going to talk now with a friend of mine

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<v Speaker 1>from Pennsylvania, a great Pennsylvanian by the name of Jeff Bartos,

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<v Speaker 1>who was a former Senate and lieutenant governor candidate himself

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<v Speaker 1>and played, as I understand it, a real role, serious,

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<v Speaker 1>big role in the campaign to get Dave McCormick elected

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<v Speaker 1>to the United States Senate. Jeff how are you happy

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<v Speaker 1>New Year?

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<v Speaker 2>Happy to hear to you, Jeffrey, and thank you so

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<v Speaker 2>much for having me on. And of course I hope

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<v Speaker 2>you and your family had a joyful and relaxing and

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<v Speaker 2>just very amazing Christmas holiday. As we wind down, probably

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not many years in our lives more extraordinary

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<v Speaker 2>than twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Boy, I think that's the case. You know, as I

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<v Speaker 1>said to people that I would meet in the campaign

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<v Speaker 1>as time went on, I said, take notes, because you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to want to look back, and you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you forget some of these things, this was a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>This was serious, major American history here. So what are

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<v Speaker 1>your thoughts jeff on Pennsylvania. You know, I thought from

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<v Speaker 1>the get go that it was entirely possible that President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump was going to carry Pennsylvania. And I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>Dave had a more uphill battle simply because his opponent

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<v Speaker 1>was Bob Casey Junior, but still at all they both

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<v Speaker 1>came through. What are your thoughts on the electorate in

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<v Speaker 1>Pennsylvania and is it shifting a little bit? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>more more red than purple? Or what are your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, President Trump, I mean, Jeffery, you were very you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you were very involved in twenty sixteen, and you had

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<v Speaker 2>a first hand view of the remarkable win that President

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<v Speaker 2>Trump and the team, our friend Tay Christian and David

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<v Speaker 2>Urban and the great folks that were all involved in

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<v Speaker 2>that twenty sixteen campaign, and what President Trump was able

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<v Speaker 2>to do. At the same time, Senator to me won

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<v Speaker 2>re election in twenty sixteen. So it was a fascinating

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<v Speaker 2>study about Pennsylvania's electorate, which I think really is a

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<v Speaker 2>microcosm of the country.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up in reading, and I know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you and I have deep roots in the Lancaster and

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<v Speaker 2>Harrisburg area as well, and so you know Cheryl's from Allentown,

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<v Speaker 2>but I feel much more familiar, if you will, Barks

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<v Speaker 2>County and Lehigh County than I Montgomery County, where we.

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<v Speaker 3>Raised our girls.

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<v Speaker 2>And it just I think that what President Trump was

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<v Speaker 2>able to achieve in twenty sixteen never went away. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we had some years where we didn't win elections, and

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<v Speaker 2>who knows we can look back on that, I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>and articles have been written, but I always felt for

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<v Speaker 2>me personally from the morning of October seventh of twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three right through four am on November sixth of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four, I never I mean, let me put

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<v Speaker 2>it more positively, I had an unshakable belief for me

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<v Speaker 2>and Cheryl, our family and the people that we spent

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of time I'm with that not only was

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump going to win, but that Dave McCormick was

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<v Speaker 2>going to win. And as the summer went on, I

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<v Speaker 2>felt very strongly that.

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<v Speaker 3>We were going to flip those three flippable.

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<v Speaker 2>United States House seats. We ended up flipping two of them,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course Stacy Garrity and Day Sunday and Tim

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<v Speaker 2>Defour were able to win. So the first time I

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<v Speaker 2>think in my lifetime since the attorney general's race in

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<v Speaker 2>Pennsylvania became an elected.

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<v Speaker 3>Spot where we've held three row offices.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think the elector in Pennsylvania microcosm of the country.

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<v Speaker 2>The message that President Trump led with, you know, that

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<v Speaker 2>uniting message of cutting through the silos of identity politics

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<v Speaker 2>that the Left have been trying to build for the

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<v Speaker 2>best fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 3>He obliterated them with a message.

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<v Speaker 2>That united all Pennsylvanians and all Americans around economic prosperity,

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<v Speaker 2>peace through strength, a secure border, those cut across socioeconomic lines,

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<v Speaker 2>racial lines, religious lines, age lines.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still I mean, you can hear in my voice.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still as excited today as I was on the

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<v Speaker 2>evening of November fifth and early November sixth.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, me too. Well, I think it's amazing. And

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<v Speaker 1>from my own experience earlier in my career, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things I did in working for Senator John Hines,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was his executive assistant in the Senate. But

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<v Speaker 1>as you and you know how this works, when you

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<v Speaker 1>get to election season, if you're going to be participating

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<v Speaker 1>in the campaign, you have to leave the Senate staff

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, go from Washington to Philadelphia and get

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<v Speaker 1>involved there. And one of the things that I did,

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<v Speaker 1>I became a big coordinator of what was known in

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<v Speaker 1>the day as Latinos for Hines, and it was very interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>He paid a great deal of attention to the Hispanic

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<v Speaker 1>community in the Philadelphia area and around the state. He

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<v Speaker 1>would go to their events, we would be I would

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<v Speaker 1>be talking on the phone to these folks all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course he won re election in in you know,

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<v Speaker 1>considerable fashion, and I thought, there's a lesson there for

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<v Speaker 1>Republican candidates. You know, get out, don't just do the

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<v Speaker 1>traditional sort of things that Republican candidates have always done,

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<v Speaker 1>but go out to other constituencies and spend real time

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<v Speaker 1>with him and and you know, create the bond that

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen created. This is this is something that can

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<v Speaker 1>be done. And you know, when I would drive around

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<v Speaker 1>the state, as you know, yeah, I'd get invited to

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<v Speaker 1>go here or there, and I would drive and it

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<v Speaker 1>always amazed me how many Trump signs I saw. They're

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place, and I thought, hello, is there

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<v Speaker 1>a message here of what's coming. But I really do

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<v Speaker 1>think that you know, there are lots of grassroots enthusiasm

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<v Speaker 1>for him, and I'm I'm wondering what your thoughts are

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<v Speaker 1>for how it plays down the road. I mean, come

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<v Speaker 1>January twentieth, that what well.

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<v Speaker 3>So at, I'll tell you a real quick personal story.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, lines.

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<v Speaker 2>We live in Laura Marion and you know, I say,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of highly educated people who may have a

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<v Speaker 2>somewhat lacking in common sense, and we love most of

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<v Speaker 2>our neighbors. It's also grown over the last twenty years

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<v Speaker 2>to be a very hotbed a really kind of vibrant

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<v Speaker 2>Orthodox Jewish community in and around where we live.

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<v Speaker 3>And oh gosh, it was a couple of days.

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<v Speaker 2>After the election, Charyl and I were going for a

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<v Speaker 2>walk and a rabbi that I know, Orthodox rabbi that

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<v Speaker 2>I know, stopped his car as he saw us walking,

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<v Speaker 2>came over and gave.

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<v Speaker 1>Me the biggest hug wow, wow, that I've.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably ever received from a man, and not someone not

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<v Speaker 2>in my family. And he just the joy on his

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<v Speaker 2>face and the relief on his face that President Trump

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<v Speaker 2>had one, that David won, and that we had had

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<v Speaker 2>this big victory up and down the ballot. He didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even need to say anything. It was just there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people I know and we saw a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of Trump signs in our community, in our neighborhood that

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<v Speaker 2>you never would have seen in twenty twenty and you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't see back in twenty sixteen either.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was you.

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<v Speaker 2>Had the sense. And so for me looking forward, I

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<v Speaker 2>think we as a Republican Party, we had a reconstituted,

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<v Speaker 2>realigned Republican party with the statewide success that we had,

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<v Speaker 2>the House race success, we had the state Senate, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that state senancy picking up a state senency in

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<v Speaker 2>Philadelphia and northeas Philadelphia, right, we have a once in

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<v Speaker 2>a generation you made reference to Senator Hines and of

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<v Speaker 2>course President Reagan at that same time. We have a

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<v Speaker 2>once in a generation opportunity to really take this message

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<v Speaker 2>of economic prosperity, peace through strength, safe neighborhoods, secure border,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have a chance to take that, I think

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<v Speaker 2>through for the next decade or more and really build

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<v Speaker 2>a sustainable coalition that this should win a lot more elections,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's on us to do it. We have, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump's a once in a one hundred year cana

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<v Speaker 2>that JD. Vance is a generational talent. Dave McCormick ran

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<v Speaker 2>one of the best Senate campaigns in our lifetimes with

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<v Speaker 2>a great team. So we have leaders at the federal

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<v Speaker 2>level and across the state that they can take us there,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's really up to us to deliver. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>as confident as I was that President Trump was going

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<v Speaker 2>to win and A Dave was going to win and

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<v Speaker 2>we were going to have this success. That's how confidence

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<v Speaker 2>I am that we're going to deliver.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, delivery is all. And one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>I learned in working for Senator Hines there was always

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<v Speaker 1>two tracks to what he was doing. One was the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that every United States senator has to do. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the issue comes up about some foreign policy situation, or

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<v Speaker 1>do we vote yay or nay on some tax bill

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<v Speaker 1>or budget bill or what have you. But beyond that,

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<v Speaker 1>there's Pennsylvania itself and whatever problems may be current for

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<v Speaker 1>Pennsylvanians that are not current for Americans and other states.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I was there, we were with the Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 1>Navy Yard was a big deal and because of the

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<v Speaker 1>Reagan build up, there was a constant battle to get

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<v Speaker 1>the Pentagon to deliver ships. They called it the SLEPT

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<v Speaker 1>program Service Life Extension Program, and to get these battleships

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<v Speaker 1>and aircraft carriers into the Navy yards so that they

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<v Speaker 1>could be reoutfitted and sent sent back out. Well, hello,

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<v Speaker 1>and you will get this immediately. There was a guy

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<v Speaker 1>named Trent Lott who represented a like the Philadelphia Navy

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<v Speaker 1>Yard equivalent in Mississippi or Louisiana. I know he was

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<v Speaker 1>centered from Mississippi. But we were constantly doing battle and

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<v Speaker 1>we had to, you know, bring the the Navy yard

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<v Speaker 1>folks into the Pentagon. They had to se the Secretary

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<v Speaker 1>of the Navy. They had to make their case, but

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<v Speaker 1>we made sure that they got it. And I remember

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<v Speaker 1>on one occasion Senator Hines and I was with him.

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<v Speaker 1>We were able to borrow thanks to the good graces

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<v Speaker 1>of our visitor to the Navy Yard, that would be

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<v Speaker 1>Senator John Tower from Texas, who was then the Chairman

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<v Speaker 1>of the Senate Armed Services Committee. We were given a

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<v Speaker 1>loaner from President Reagan of Marine I and we flew

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<v Speaker 1>from the Pentagon to the Philadelphia Navy Yard so that

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<v Speaker 1>Senator Tower could be shown the USS Wisconsin, which of

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<v Speaker 1>course had been in World War Two in all of this,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was now in Philadelphia in the Navy Yard

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<v Speaker 1>for slap and how important it was and it really

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<v Speaker 1>helped a lot with all this and that's the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. And then you know, this being a big

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<v Speaker 1>state with different interests, you'd go to the other end

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<v Speaker 1>of the state and you realize you needed to work

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<v Speaker 1>on tariff issues with US steel. So that's the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing that you know, is down home politics, if

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<v Speaker 1>you will, that I think can't be forgotten. It isn't

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<v Speaker 1>just the national issues here. And I think, wow, we

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<v Speaker 1>have such a diverse state. You know, I went to

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<v Speaker 1>high school in my last few years of high school

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<v Speaker 1>in Allentown, and Allentown is an area and it isn't

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<v Speaker 1>Lancaster as it were.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's I find Pennsylvania having. It's been such

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<v Speaker 2>a privilege to run twice statewide, once as a standard

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<v Speaker 2>bearer of our party as a Republican nominee for lieutenant

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<v Speaker 2>governor back in twenty eighteen with our friend Scott Wagner.

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<v Speaker 2>What a privilege it is the campaign of the state

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<v Speaker 2>like Pennsylvania because it's so diverse, and you never I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the issues are never forget boring, right, They're they're never dull,

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<v Speaker 2>they're never easy. You're always challenged.

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<v Speaker 3>But we have the leadership to do it. I think

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<v Speaker 3>a race to look for. Look, we should take a

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<v Speaker 3>little break from looking at.

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<v Speaker 2>The upcoming race is but there's going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>primary in Philadelphia in I believe April or May. That's

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<v Speaker 2>we have a chance to take out the Soros backed prosecutor.

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<v Speaker 2>And that will be you know, in the Democrat primary.

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<v Speaker 2>There will be people lining up and I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>surprised if we see some of the folks who got

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<v Speaker 2>involved at national politics for the first time recognizing that

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<v Speaker 2>they could be a counterweight or frankly, even a prevail

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<v Speaker 2>over the Soros back which we did just you know

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<v Speaker 2>last month. We should be able to take some of that,

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<v Speaker 2>some of that energy and some of those wins and

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<v Speaker 2>some of that organizing that we did just over the

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<v Speaker 2>last year or last year and a half and take

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<v Speaker 2>that to taking back cities like Philadelphia. Philadelphia is critical

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<v Speaker 2>the Pennsylvania as well being an economy, and the only thing,

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<v Speaker 2>really not the only thing, the major thing holding us

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<v Speaker 2>back right now is the district attorney who won't prosecute crimes.

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<v Speaker 2>The Wall Street Journals today, I'll bet about it. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>shocked up in the Wall Street Journal and there's an

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<v Speaker 2>o bed about Philadelphia and the DA and how he's

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<v Speaker 2>backed the mayor's progress. This is the Democrats are eating

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<v Speaker 2>each other for the good of Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 3>For the good of Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 2>We really have a chance now, I think to take

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<v Speaker 2>out just frankly, the worst, the worst elected official in

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<v Speaker 2>Pennsylvania right now and Larry Krafts and put someone in

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<v Speaker 2>there who will actually prosecute crimes.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I've become increasingly convinced. I mean, this whole business

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<v Speaker 1>with sorrow's prosecutors around the country, Uh, watching what's going out,

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess it was Los Angeles, where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a similar situation, and finally there was a rebellion.

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<v Speaker 1>I forget where there's Los Angeles or San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 3>But both both.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there was a rebellion to all of this. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one of the things that I think people

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes forget, and this applies to President Biden as well,

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<v Speaker 1>is you've got candidates out there that say elect me

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll do a B and C. Then they get

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<v Speaker 1>elected and they actually do a B and C and

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out the results are terrible and it backfires.

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<v Speaker 1>And in this situation, you had I think people at

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<v Speaker 1>the around the country that saw the Biden presidency at

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<v Speaker 1>work and said, you know, thanks, but no thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a whole scale I mean, for the for

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<v Speaker 2>the sitting president who's on his way out to once

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<v Speaker 2>again failed to take any responsibility for the failures of

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<v Speaker 2>the administration. Right then administration where nobody was fired, going

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<v Speaker 2>all the way back to the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan

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<v Speaker 2>is yes, twenty twenty one, all the way.

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<v Speaker 3>Forward to its last days.

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<v Speaker 2>This is really I said about the vice president's Vice

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<v Speaker 2>President Harris's campaign. It was a campaign born in desperation

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<v Speaker 2>that meandered for one hundred and ten days or so

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<v Speaker 2>without a message, and then you know, died not with

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<v Speaker 2>a bang, with a whimper. And you really could almost

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the Biden presidency that way. I remember they

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<v Speaker 2>installed him as the nominee back in the spring of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty in desperation. And this is the presidency we

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<v Speaker 2>will we will long forget. Yeah, you know, like they

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<v Speaker 2>little remember this, this administration. I think thirty forty years

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<v Speaker 2>down the road, it will.

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<v Speaker 1>Be I thank you, right, Jeff, Jeff, we are getting

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<v Speaker 1>the hand sign signal here, So thank you very much

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<v Speaker 1>for coming on the future, Beckons, and I know you

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<v Speaker 1>will be involved.

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<v Speaker 2>A healthy and happy new Year to you and your

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<v Speaker 2>family and all of your listeners. And thanks thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>having me on today.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey, thank you you bet bye bye. All right, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to our last half hour. This is Jeffrey Lord

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<v Speaker 1>filling in for our friend Sean Hannity, and feel free

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<v Speaker 1>to call us at eight hundred and nine four one seven,

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<v Speaker 1>three two six. And as I read the board, I

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<v Speaker 1>see that there is Bob from Massachusetts who knew me

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<v Speaker 1>from Crescent Street where I grew up, and that his

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<v Speaker 1>dad was my principal. Bob, are you there, I'm there,

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<v Speaker 1>jeff all right, give me your last name.

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<v Speaker 4>President. We're ready to vote for you and give you

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<v Speaker 4>a room similar at Forbes Library that we gave Calvin Coolidge.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Do you know my dad held Calvin Coolidge's Ward

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<v Speaker 1>two seat on the city council when we were there

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<v Speaker 1>and I was a kid. Wow, And I always say

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<v Speaker 1>Calvin Coolidge is the one president who really worked his

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<v Speaker 1>way up from the bottom. He was I think first

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<v Speaker 1>a town clerk, then I think he became the town solicitor.

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<v Speaker 1>He got elected to the city council, then mayor, state representative,

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<v Speaker 1>state senator, lieutenant governor, and governor, vice president and finally

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<v Speaker 1>he hit the big one and became president.

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<v Speaker 4>But and that was it. He said, that's enough, Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the later days he passed in nineteen thirty three,

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<v Speaker 1>as I recall, but Missus Coolidge was alive and well,

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<v Speaker 1>and my mom was the chair of the Hampshire County

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<v Speaker 1>Republican Women and she and her colleagues in that group,

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<v Speaker 1>it was one of the things to do was to

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<v Speaker 1>go pay a courtesy call periodically on Missus Coolish and

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<v Speaker 1>talk to her about what's going on in politics and

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<v Speaker 1>all of that kind of thing. I always found that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fascinating. So so, what'd you.

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<v Speaker 4>Call about Bob A Christmas story? Yeah, your dad and

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<v Speaker 4>my cousin Bobby, who was in the Navy and Submarines.

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<v Speaker 4>He had gotten released in Norfolk, was on the Beltway

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<v Speaker 4>hitch hiking up to Barry Vermont, but he didn't get there.

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<v Speaker 4>Your dad picked him up, took him up to Crescent

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<v Speaker 4>Street and of course my aunt's house Qui's on fifty

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<v Speaker 4>seven Crescent Street down near the Magna House, and so

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<v Speaker 4>they had a long talk all the way up until

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<v Speaker 4>you made the curb up there where the the botanis

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<v Speaker 4>live where you live. Yeah, yeah, And basically it was

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<v Speaker 4>just such a nice thing that this poor guy got

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<v Speaker 4>out of a submarine and your dad saw sale or

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<v Speaker 4>hitch hiking on the road literally and he got to

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<v Speaker 4>Bury the following day. Of course someone hauled up hauled

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<v Speaker 4>him up there and all that. But what a what

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<v Speaker 4>a neat thing that your dad did. Oh those are

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<v Speaker 4>great people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes they were. And he was going to Bury Vermont.

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<v Speaker 4>As you could guess what's that He was.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to Bury Vermont.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you say, well, that's where where Bobby Mitchell, who's

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<v Speaker 4>now a Queen's cop retired. Of course, and he his son,

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<v Speaker 4>by the way, is I think a general now wow,

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<v Speaker 4>went to a West Point. I mean his dad served

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<v Speaker 4>under patent. I mean it was a military family.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't. Hey, my dad wasn't a shrieker either. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>talk about it, but he was a Tenian. When the

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<v Speaker 4>Leonola Gates who often ended the show, I bet you

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<v Speaker 4>didn't know nothing about that. You just knew him as

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<v Speaker 4>a principal at Vernon Street and his last name was Moriarty.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, miss Moriarty. Of course, of course, exactly right, got it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was terrific. He was terrific. I gave up.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a conservative like you, and you've been on the

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<v Speaker 4>Howie Carr Show, and I wasn't able to catch you

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<v Speaker 4>in there because you're on that they give you the

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<v Speaker 4>old Northampton treatment. But we have a room available at

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<v Speaker 4>Forbes Library, which by the way, my dad ended up

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<v Speaker 4>being trustee of In every election he got the most

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<v Speaker 4>votes of anybody in town.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, but you knew him, of course, as

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<v Speaker 4>just the principal at Vernon Street. Yes, And I think

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<v Speaker 4>you moved on before I went to Hawley.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you go to HALLI I left after the eighth grade,

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<v Speaker 1>so that would be suck in nineteen seventy five, not.

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<v Speaker 4>Have it wasn't integrated like it is now. Well they were.

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<v Speaker 4>They make the eighth graders blend in and all that.

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<v Speaker 4>And then you moved, I guess to Pennsylvania, great state there.

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<v Speaker 1>We moved first to Virginia, the Stanton, Virginia. Dad was

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<v Speaker 1>in the hotel business. We were there for two years,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we went on to Pennsylvania and that they

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<v Speaker 1>stuck around and I got in I got, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>graduated from high school, from college there and uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>then went to work my first job in the Pennsylvania

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<v Speaker 1>State Senate Republican communications staff, and ever after it was

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<v Speaker 1>Pennsylvania as home and still is, I might add.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, yeah, it's a great state. It bailed us out

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<v Speaker 4>and gave us Trump. If you think you're going to

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<v Speaker 4>get help from Mets to chooses, Oh my, hey, Reagan. Right.

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<v Speaker 4>I go to the tribute for Coolidge and it's right

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<v Speaker 4>on near the Court House.

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<v Speaker 1>I know exactly where it is. I think I was

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<v Speaker 1>in the White House when President Reagan called to that

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<v Speaker 1>was part of the ceremony.

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<v Speaker 4>For that, And I was looking like, north Ampton, don't

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<v Speaker 4>you get it. You had a president of the United

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<v Speaker 4>States and you're not respecting him.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, I was a big Coolish and we had

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<v Speaker 1>a double connection in our family with Coolidge. My father's mother,

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<v Speaker 1>my grandmother, her family lived on the farm that was

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<v Speaker 1>next to the Coolidges, and they were friends of the

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<v Speaker 1>Coolidge family. And if you know the tale, his namesake son,

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<v Speaker 1>Calvin Junior, died when cal was in the White House

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<v Speaker 1>and he was playing tennis on the White House tennis

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<v Speaker 1>court got a blister. It got infected and he died.

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<v Speaker 1>So my grandmother was invited to the funeral and took

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<v Speaker 1>my then ten year old dad and went to it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I had the presence of mind to get my

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<v Speaker 1>grandmother on audio tape talking about this, and I can

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<v Speaker 1>still hear her saying, I can see Cal's red hair

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<v Speaker 1>glinting in the sunlight. It was pretty amazing. And then

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<v Speaker 1>all those later, Dad gets elected to Calvin Coolidge's seat

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<v Speaker 1>in the City Council and Mom is spending time with

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<v Speaker 1>missus Coolidge. It was it was interesting. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when I went to work in the White House, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the first things President Reagan did when he took

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<v Speaker 1>office was hanging Calvin Coolidge's official portrait in the cabinet room,

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<v Speaker 1>so that every single time there was a meeting, a

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<v Speaker 1>cabinet meeting or whatever in the cabinet room, they would

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<v Speaker 1>be reminded of Calvin Coolidge and the conservative president. President

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<v Speaker 1>Reagan really liked Calvin Coolidge a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Trump would like him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I think that's I think so. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, he had this reputation as being very taciturned,

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<v Speaker 1>in other words, not speaking a lot. And the joke

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<v Speaker 1>was that some society lady sat next to him an

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<v Speaker 1>event and said, mister President, and I have a bet

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<v Speaker 1>that I can get you to say more than two words,

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<v Speaker 1>to which Coolish replied, you lose.

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<v Speaker 4>That was coming. It's it's sad that they really let

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<v Speaker 4>the Coolidge room at Forbes Library go to hell.

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<v Speaker 1>That's too bad because I've been there. I went, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a number of years ago. I went, oh, yeah, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fascinating stuff. And my one of my best

0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:28.200
<v Speaker 1>friends from school, the Mazorskis, lived Caddy corner to the

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<v Speaker 1>house there that was on Massasoytte Street where the Coolidges

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<v Speaker 1>had lived, and then they got what did they call

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<v Speaker 1>it the beaches?

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<v Speaker 4>I think that was the Yeah, that was over on

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<v Speaker 4>tom Ary Terrace.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, but yeah, if.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm kicking in, I know that you left a long

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<v Speaker 4>time ago, and it was my stopping although I worked

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<v Speaker 4>all over the country.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, well I went back. I guess it was

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<v Speaker 1>two summers ago. I went back. First, I went with

0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:05.080
<v Speaker 1>a friend. We went to uh Boston to see the

0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Red Sox play, of course, and then she had to leave,

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<v Speaker 1>so I high tailed it to Northampton and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>did sightseeing saw some old friends, and uh, it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It was great, you know, great great memories there.

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<v Speaker 1>Dad was dad and mom very involved in politics, and

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<v Speaker 1>uh they helped elect one of his friends, uh Durban Wells,

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<v Speaker 1>who was also a friend of his son was a

0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:40.639
<v Speaker 1>Teddy was a good friend of mine. And uh so,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was it was good times back then, innocent,

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<v Speaker 1>I must say. So, okay, all right, well, Bob, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you very much for calling, and on we go here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to go to Uh oh wow, Frank in Denver,

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<v Speaker 1>did your family bug you for White House tours when

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<v Speaker 1>you worked for Reagan? Yes, I'm here. It wasn't it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't just it wasn't just my parents and fairness, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was it was interesting to me, is that

0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:21.040
<v Speaker 1>that was part of the assignment of the White House

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<v Speaker 1>political staff. You know, you have your work day done

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<v Speaker 1>by you know, six o'clock, seven o'clock or whatever, but

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<v Speaker 1>then you had to stay and take Reagan supporters who

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<v Speaker 1>had called in to announce that they were coming to

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<v Speaker 1>Washington and all this, and give them a tour, a

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<v Speaker 1>West wing tour, which I did over and over and

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<v Speaker 1>over and over again every night after work. It seemed,

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<v Speaker 1>and then also on the weekends, on Saturdays and Sundays.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember on one occasion we had some a couple

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<v Speaker 1>and their kids, and they were from Pennsylvania. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know them. Their congressman had called and asked if I

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<v Speaker 1>would take them around, So so I do this, But

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<v Speaker 1>it was going to be on a Saturday, and I thought, well, okay,

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:09.000
<v Speaker 1>so it's Saturday. Nobody's generally around on a Saturday. So

0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:11.639
<v Speaker 1>they arrive and I start to take them on the

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<v Speaker 1>tour and we get stopped suddenly by the Secret Service

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<v Speaker 1>that said the President's in the Oval Office, so you

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<v Speaker 1>have to wait outside here. Well, they were pretty agog

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, oh my goodness, And sure enough, within

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of minutes, out came President Reagan, uh nicely

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<v Speaker 1>attired in a dressed sports coat and tie and all

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<v Speaker 1>this because he felt that the working in the Oval

0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Office was sank re sank, so he was always well

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:43.640
<v Speaker 1>dressed and came out and I introduced them to these

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:46.359
<v Speaker 1>people and told him they were Penn State fans, and

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:49.200
<v Speaker 1>by chance, Penn State happened to be playing that day,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he, off the top of his head, goes

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<v Speaker 1>into all sorts of stuff about Joe Paterno, whom he knew,

0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 1>and what was going on with Penn State and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was it was quite fun. You never got

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<v Speaker 1>to know who you were going to meet when you

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<v Speaker 1>did these tours. So well, Frank, thank you very much

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<v Speaker 1>for calling. And I want to move on to Jose

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<v Speaker 1>from Texas, who wants to talk about election integrity being

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<v Speaker 1>the number one issue facing the country. Yes, sir, can

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<v Speaker 1>you hear me? I can, Jose, I can merry Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>and a.

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<v Speaker 5>Happy New Year, Yes, sir.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'll keep it.

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<v Speaker 5>Short because I know we're you're running out of time here,

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<v Speaker 5>but I just think that you know that if we do,

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<v Speaker 5>if we don't put voter integritymost important at the top

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<v Speaker 5>of the list, we're going to lose everything because we

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<v Speaker 5>will no longer be a government of the people, by

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<v Speaker 5>the people and for the people.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Can't you can't buy cigarettes, alcohol, a vehicle and numerous

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:51.679
<v Speaker 5>other things without an ID. But yet we have so

0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 5>many states that don't require a voter ID to vote,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's probably the most important that we have in America.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I totally agree with you, Jose. You know, as

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<v Speaker 1>I was saying, I have lived in Pennsylvania since high school,

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<v Speaker 1>and I came up through the Pennsylvania political system, you know.

0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:16.560
<v Speaker 1>I was in the teenage Republicans and the college Republicans

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:19.359
<v Speaker 1>and all that kind of thing. And if I learned

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<v Speaker 1>anything to my sorrow, it is that my home state

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:26.159
<v Speaker 1>of Pennsylvania has had a pretty not so good reputation

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<v Speaker 1>for election integrity. And we had in uh it was

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety four, there was a special election or state

0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Senate seat in Philadelphia and the next thing, you know,

0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>it was on the front page of the New York Times,

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 1>of all places, and the deal was that the loser,

0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:53.200
<v Speaker 1>so called in quotes, was the Republican. But he was

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<v Speaker 1>somebody I know. He'd worked for Senator Arlen Inspector. He

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<v Speaker 1>had the presence of mind to challenge the results. He

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:02.320
<v Speaker 1>did so, and the federal judge overturned the election and

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 1>said there was a massive scheme by Democrats to steal

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<v Speaker 1>it and they had to redo the whole thing. So well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, Jose, I'm just about out of time here,

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<v Speaker 1>so thank you very much for calling, and thank all

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<v Speaker 1>of you, and we'll be back in a minute. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back. I recognize that music from my youth. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>the monkeys. This is Jeffrey Lord. I have filled in

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<v Speaker 1>today for our friend Sean Hannity, and I wish you

0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 1>all a happy new year out there. Twenty twenty four was,

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:39.479
<v Speaker 1>to say the least interesting. That is one for the

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 1>history books that you will be telling. For those of

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:44.880
<v Speaker 1>you who are going to be having great grandchildren, You're

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 1>going to be telling them this for a very long

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 1>time to come. It was quite remarkable. So now we

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 1>move on. So now we move on to the second

0:29:56.840 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Trump administration, and we've all I've gotten to know him

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:04.480
<v Speaker 1>a bit, and doubtless he has all kinds of plans

0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:08.000
<v Speaker 1>that he is going to go out of his way.

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 1>He is very focused. I've gotten to know him a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a very focused guy. He knows what he wants

0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 1>to do. He asks questions, and he says, as I

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 1>recall the other day in a speech, that he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to make this America's Golden Age. So with that in mind,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you very much. We've got a lot, a lot

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 1>to look forward to. This is Jeffrey Lord filling in

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 1>for Sean Hannity, and on we go to twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy New Year,