1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: The Action Network podcast podcasts. 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 2: If you are even remotely a savage, you'll run these 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: people over for a second. Hello, and welcome to the 4 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: Action Network podcast UFC Betting Preview. I'm your host Shawn Zarilla, 5 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 2: joined today by Billy Warred to help you break down 6 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: UFC three nineteen and give you our best bets, favorite underdogs, 7 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: top props, and morn If you'd like to tell some 8 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 2: of the bets that we discuss on today's show, make 9 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 2: sure to find the quick slip links to both in 10 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 2: the podcast and the video description, or go to actionwork 11 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: dot com slash bet now thirteen Fight Card from the 12 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 2: United Center in Chicago, Illinois. UFC has not been back 13 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: here since twenty nineteen eight prelimbs starting at six pm 14 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: Eastern five fight main card ten pm Eastern on ESPN 15 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: plus pay per view will not be saying that. 16 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 3: For very much longer, only through the end of. 17 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: The year, as UFC signing that seven point seven billion 18 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 2: dollar deal with Paramount Plus. Big news this week, Big 19 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 2: news for you. Also this week, Billy Word, You're going 20 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: to be getting back inside, back on the mats for 21 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: a grappling match in mid September. Looking forward to that 22 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: looking forward to handicapping that match with you as well 23 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: as we get a little bit closer to it. But 24 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 2: big card here, arguably my favorite card of the year, 25 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: and I don't know if the UFC is capable of 26 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: putting on a more interesting or bigger fight right now. 27 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe Seruki and Makachev is a bigger fight, But 28 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 2: I don't know if there is a more interesting fight 29 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: right now than drikus u Plesi against Hamzat Shamaiev. They're 30 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: going to throw it down for the middleweight title around 31 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: twelve to fifteen am Eastern on Sunday morning, as this 32 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: card goes into the wee hours of the night. Now, 33 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: the general consensus take I think this week is Hamzat 34 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: early or duplus he late. Not so dissimilar from the 35 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: de Leede's early Hernandez late angle was last week. A 36 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 2: little bit different of a cardio dynamic and the fighter 37 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: is certainly different stylistically, but in terms of betting the fight, 38 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: I think that is the general take this week is 39 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: DDP late, Hamzad early. Now, I do want to point out, 40 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: with regard to the cardio issue, Hamzad changed his camp 41 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: before this fight. He moved out to California. He's been 42 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: training in the garage with armand Serukian and Aaron Pico. 43 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: Will get to Pico in a minute, but armand Surugin 44 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 2: made it very clear in an interview that Hamzad in 45 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 2: the past has overtrained, constantly overtrains coming into his fights. 46 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 2: If you've ever heard Hamzad speak, if you've ever watched 47 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 2: him move, he just seems like a guy who would 48 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 2: overtrain and would do too much and not know how 49 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: to rein himself in well. Apparently he's had a coach, 50 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: a conditioning coach, monitoring his output during this camp and 51 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: forcing him to stop overtraining so that he is optimized 52 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: on fight nite. Billy I thought it was very interesting 53 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: that he used the curtain at weighans today because he 54 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: came in at one hundred and eighty three pounds. 55 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 3: He was well under the limit. 56 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: Had the curtain though up in front of him, which 57 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: means the guy typically is like barely, you know, making weight. 58 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: So I don't know if there was a difference between 59 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 2: the scale and the back and the scale when they 60 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 2: actually came out front. We'll see how the other fighters 61 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: are weighing and if they're underweight two. I think it 62 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: points to this scale potentially being off. But all of 63 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: that is to say I think we're going to see 64 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: career best cardio from Hamzat on Saturday, and if he 65 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: does not fade, I don't know who beats this guy. 66 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: Because the power is insane, the grappling is insane, the 67 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: strength and speed combination absolutely incredible. I think DDP is 68 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: a phenomenal champion. I think he's been incredibly underrated. If 69 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: this fight does extend, I think he will have opportunities 70 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: to either close the show or win minutes down the stretch. 71 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: But from the outset, Hamzat shoots in the first twenty 72 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: seconds in every one of his fights. The only fight 73 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: where he didn't he knocked out GM three in fifteen seconds, 74 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: was tossing DC around on the street in front of 75 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: the hotel the other day. This guy's just freakishly strong, 76 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 2: and I think, no matter what, if you want to 77 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: bet DDP, you get a better live price after round one, 78 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: if not round two. So the ways I'm looking to 79 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: play this, the way I see value on this fight, 80 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 2: I really like the bet that Billy's gonna give out. 81 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 2: I'm gonna let him give that one out. But alternatives 82 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 2: to that bet same game parlays homs out in the 83 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 2: under one and a half rounds plus one sixty three, 84 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: or if you just take the under one and a 85 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: half at plus one forty, the under two and a 86 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 2: half I believe is around minus one twenty. You could 87 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: same game parlay that with Hamzatt at about plus one 88 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: oh five and then hams Ott in the under three 89 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: and a half rounds is minus one twenty. I don't 90 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: know if I see him finishing in the or in 91 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 2: the fourth round, early in the fourth round, or even 92 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: late in the third, so probably the under one and 93 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: a half under two and a half the best ways 94 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 2: to go about it, And I think the juicier options 95 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 2: homs out round one plus two seventy, round two plus 96 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: five hundred, and then round one sub plus four to thirty, 97 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: round two sub plus eight point fifty. I project value 98 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 2: on his subprop, I project value on his inside the 99 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 2: distance prop. I just think if he's going to finish 100 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 2: the fight, it's likely in the first two rounds or 101 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 2: at least the first twelve and a half minutes. So 102 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 2: I'd rather have the SGP angles for the sub props 103 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: early instead of betting the whole fight for Hamzad to 104 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: finish it. So, Billy, what did I miss in terms 105 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 2: of my breakdown? What are your thoughts in terms of 106 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 2: live betting this fight and timing? Because I know you 107 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 2: like DDP live, but when are you timing it? Is 108 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: it after round one? Is it midway through round two? 109 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 2: And then go ahead and give out your bet for 110 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 2: this fight and where you found it, because it could 111 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: be the best way to bet on the favor. 112 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll start with my bet. It's the i'mblauch hm 113 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 4: I have in any of the first three rounds. That's 114 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 4: even money at FanDuel, I played with a pretty much 115 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,559 Speaker 4: every combination of SGP at various books you can find 116 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 4: you can get a slightly better price by cutting off 117 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 4: a few minutes at the end of the third round. 118 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 3: I don't hate that. 119 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 4: I think if it's the third round finish, it's probably 120 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 4: in the first half or so of that. We see 121 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 4: more finishes at the start a round, at any round, 122 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 4: just because guys get that minute off and come out fresh. 123 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 4: The interesting thing here is, you know you mentioned the 124 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 4: lack of the overtraining and the conditioning coach pulling him back. 125 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 4: I don't think the problem for Hamzat was ever that 126 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 4: like his physical cardio was bad. I'm sure his vo 127 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 4: two max is great. I would honestly probably bet on 128 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 4: him if we said these two guys were gonna run 129 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 4: a six mile race or whatever. But the conditioning coach 130 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 4: can pull him back in the gym, but he can't 131 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 4: pull him back in the fight. And Hamza comes out 132 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 4: so aggressively and works so hard and explodes so hard. 133 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 4: That's where it gets him. DDP does the same thing, 134 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 4: but he does it intermittently. Hamza said one hundred. The 135 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 4: whole fight, he's you know, revenue the engine right at 136 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 4: that red line until the fight's over or he runs 137 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 4: out of gas. DUPLESSI is a little bit better about 138 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 4: like bursting with that. You know, he'll give you a 139 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 4: hard combo, then he'll circle out and reset, or you know, 140 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 4: he'll explode to get on top of the ground, kind 141 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 4: of throw you down. Take a minute before he sits 142 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 4: up and starts over exerting himself. I think that's where 143 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 4: more where the cardio angle is here. The thing that 144 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 4: worries me about Tremaiev is he's never really fought a 145 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 4: full sized middleweight before he fought Usman at middleweight. That 146 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 4: was Kamara Ousman taking the fight on short notice and 147 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 4: Usman almost beat him late. Robert Whitaker, you know, former 148 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 4: middleweight champ, but was a welterweight, is not the biggest middleweight. 149 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 4: Hamza didn't you know, out technique him. He didn't even 150 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 4: get the choke under his neck. He just smashed his 151 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 4: fasically so much bigger and stronger. This is the first 152 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 4: time we've ever seen him fight someone who is He 153 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 4: doesn't have a huge size and strength advantage over I 154 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 4: think DDP is actually probably gonna look a little bit 155 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 4: bigger in the cage. I'm not confident in that. We'll 156 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 4: see once we get him, you know, rehydrated and pumped 157 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 4: up and all that good stuff. That's what worries me 158 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 4: for him because he for JAMAIAV, because he's really gonna 159 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 4: have to work hard if he wants that early stoppage 160 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 4: and then yeah, I mean probably at the end of 161 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 4: round one, if Tramaiev does his usual stuff and lands 162 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 4: a few takedowns, will be a fin entry point. It's 163 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 4: more of just a risk tolerance thing, though, if you 164 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 4: want to wait till midway through or the end of 165 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 4: the second round you might get a better price. I 166 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 4: expect the turnaround point to be somewhere in the third round. 167 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 4: It's just a matter of timing it, so those are tricky. 168 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 4: I also wouldn't fault to anyone if you just want 169 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 4: to do the inverse of that. Bat FanDuel offers the 170 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 4: round four, round five or by decision. I'm DDP and 171 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 4: that's like think four to one ish odds right now 172 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 4: or last I look, so any of those versions late. 173 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 4: It's it's sometimes hard for US Eastern time zone people 174 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 4: to be live betting at one in the morning after 175 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 4: thirteen fights or whatever. So I wouldn't fault anyone for 176 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 4: trying to get those in pre fight. 177 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 2: We not sure fight at the night. Aaron Pico making 178 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 2: his UFC debut minus one sixty favorite against Laverne Murphy, 179 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 2: unbeaten in his career, coming in as a plus one 180 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: thirty five underdog, be proven UFC fighter, but a very 181 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: public underdog selection this week about sixty five percent of 182 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: my public sample picking Murphy across multiple data sets. I've 183 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 2: seen a lot of love for him this week, just 184 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: because he has face better competition, has shown that he 185 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: is a very educated striker and a well rounded fighter. 186 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: But Aaron Pico for me, one of the more high 187 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: level wrestlers that have come into the UFC in a 188 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 2: little bit, just in terms of his skill set. He's 189 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: also extremely well rounded, and he does have a power 190 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 2: advantage over Lauren Murphy. Now my caution in terms of 191 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: betting Pico here initially was wondering in his UC debut 192 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: whether he was going to attempt to wrestle, whether he 193 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: was going to proactively wrestle. It's not something he always 194 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: does in his fights. And also getting signed to a 195 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: new promotion, you would figure a guy would want to 196 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 2: put on a show. But as I said, Hamzad has 197 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: been training in Cali with Armin Srukin and Pico, and 198 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: if those three guys are training together, you know that 199 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: both Hamzat and Piko are going to proactively wrestle. So 200 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: considering that fact, considering Murphy getting held on bottom for 201 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: about seven and a half minutes by Makwan mir Khani, 202 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: I think Murphy a better offensive grappler than he is 203 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: defense and I think Pico can land takedowns here when 204 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: he wants them. And he also mentioned I watched an 205 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: interview with Pico this week, he mentioned about being active 206 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 2: with elbows from top position, not just you know that. 207 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: That was what really sold it to me on oh, 208 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: this guy is going to go for takedowns. He talked 209 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: about landing damage, but specifically about landing elbows from top 210 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 2: control and being active even after landing takedowns and being 211 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 2: exciting even if he's going to wrestle. So that seemed 212 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: to indicate to me, Okay, this guy knows he's going 213 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: to wrestle, but needs to find a way to make 214 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 2: his fight exciting if he's going to do so. Don't 215 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: necessarily love laying juice on a guy coming over from Bellatour, 216 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: But the market and the betting percentages on Murphy dictated 217 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 2: to me this week that Pico is the clear side 218 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: of the fight. I make him closer to minus two 219 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: hundred minus two twenty. I would bet him up to 220 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: about minus two hundred, and then there's also value on 221 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 2: his ko prop as well. I don't know if I 222 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 2: like that nearly as much as the money line, but 223 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 2: I make his choprop poser to plus two to fifty. 224 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 2: You can get four one out there, Billy. You're taking 225 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: the opposite approach you're going with Murphy pre fight, but 226 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: the line has moved in a little bit, so I'm 227 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: curious if you still like it occurrent numbers because it 228 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: has moved down. You also like his pointspread plus three 229 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 2: and a half, and then you would live bet Pico. 230 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: I'm assuming after round one. 231 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 232 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 4: The more I think about it and listen to you 233 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 4: discuss it, I think probably the sharpest way here is 234 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 4: to come in with that plus three and a half 235 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 4: on their own Murphy, that's minus one sixty five. I 236 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 4: was hoping we'd get a better price on it. You know, 237 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 4: the fight is roughly minus two hundred to go to 238 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 4: a decision. Drafting has gotten much much better at pricing those, 239 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 4: so it's not like the huge value these used to be. 240 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 4: In a strange way, it reminds me of the Pyodion 241 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 4: Marcus McGee fight, with that dynamic where I think Murphy 242 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 4: fairly likely to win round one and then fade, partially 243 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 4: because he's coming in on short notice. He's always in 244 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 4: great shape. I don't think of him as a cardial 245 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 4: liability or anything, but he took this fight on somewhat 246 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 4: short notice. It was supposed to be uh mob sar 247 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 4: A boy versus Pico that didn't have and I did 248 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 4: the full breakdown of this one. Totally agree with you 249 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 4: about him working hard to do damage from the top. 250 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 4: Pico is not great at holding you down because he 251 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 4: takes chances to do damage and get up and you know, 252 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 4: hurt you from the top, and he knows he's in 253 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 4: better condition than you, so if you get up, great, 254 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 4: he'll just take you down again. What I noticed is 255 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 4: in a lot of his fights, guys faded fast against 256 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 4: him because he was repeatedly taking them down, making them work, 257 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 4: making them get back up. That lines up perfectly with 258 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 4: larn Murphy, who gets taken down all the time. He 259 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 4: doesn't really even try to defend takedowns, but he's given 260 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 4: up less than forty five seconds of control time per 261 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 4: takedown surrendered in the UFC, so he's not spending a 262 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 4: lot of time down there. He gets himself back up easily. 263 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 4: I like that Murphy doesn't concern himself with defending the 264 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 4: takedown because that lets him strike more effectively. Taller and longer, 265 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 4: should be able to win points at range. What I 266 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 4: think is going to happen is Murphy will have a 267 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 4: solid you know, sixty to forty first round probably wins it, 268 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 4: but he'll just get tired of defending all the takedowns, 269 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 4: all the time takedowns, Pico will take over. Hopefully Murphy 270 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 4: can make it to the bell, and if we get 271 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 4: that live bet on Pico after round one to go 272 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 4: with the Murphy plus three and a half, just like 273 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 4: we did on YAA. McGee, maybe we can thread that 274 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 4: needle and hit both those bets. But at worst the 275 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 4: price we get on Pico after round one should be 276 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 4: enough that it's not a horrible outcome either way. 277 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: Football seasons here, folks. We've got some huge improvements and 278 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 2: updates coming on the award winning Action Network Gap, which 279 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 2: we're very excited to discuss in the weeks ahead. 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That's actionework 289 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: dot Com, slash pro and use promo code Pod twenty 290 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: for twenty dollars off the annual price of action Pro. 291 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: Let's move to our favorite underdog section for this week. 292 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 2: Billy and I obviously have different processes for which we 293 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: go about this when it comes to underdogs. That's there's 294 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 2: somebody that really stands out where I think, like you know, 295 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: off the bat, this line is grossly mispriced. I'm generally 296 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 2: going off of my projections and finding the fighters, finding 297 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 2: the favorites that I think are most overweight on a 298 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 2: given week. I have a system by which my model 299 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: balances out the money lines. And the two money lines 300 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 2: that popped up for me this week were the same 301 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 2: two that Billy had already entered in the sheet before me. 302 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: So if you consider that Billy's process probably eighty twenty 303 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: tape versus public perception, maybe even ninety ten, my process 304 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: the other way, maybe eighty twenty math, you know, public 305 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 2: perception model versus tape, and we both arrived at the 306 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: same exact conclusion on the same two underdogs being undervalued. 307 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: Certainly fills me with a little more confidence. Happy to 308 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 2: have a couple of consensus underdogs this week, and then 309 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: a third that I will touch on at the end. 310 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: But let's start off with Brian Battle against Nurselton. Ruzaboyev 311 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: battle going back up to twenty eighty five after struggling 312 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 2: to make weight one to seventy, winning a split decision 313 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 2: in his last fight against Randy Brown. He is a 314 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 2: potential tweinier maybe one seventy five. His ideal weight division, 315 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: if it did exist, does have a one inge regent 316 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: manager where Ruzaboyev ruzaboy Of the bigger man four just taller, 317 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: a little bit thicker. I think he is the more 318 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: natural middleweight, and we do like the bigger man in 319 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 2: this fight. I projected Ruzaboye of at plus one o eight. 320 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 2: I would bet him down to plus one twenty Billy, 321 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 2: what did you see in terms. 322 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 3: Of the tape that led you to Rusley? 323 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 4: This we ironically enough, this is probably the one fight 324 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 4: that I used more of a Sean Zerulo esque process on, 325 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 4: and not that I actually dug into how by people 326 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 4: or the percentages, but when like Froud's a Boyev was 327 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 4: trending on Twitter, and everyone is calling this guy out 328 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 4: for being overrated. Like the public perception has just shifted 329 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 4: so far away from a guy who's decent right, Like 330 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 4: he's not as great as he looked when he knocked 331 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 4: out Bruno Fejeda in his first fight, but he's four 332 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 4: and one in the his only loss was a decision 333 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 4: to Joaquin Buckley. Like that is a solid resume for 334 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 4: a guy kind of just spams big right hands, but 335 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 4: he trains in Philly with like Sean Brady and Andre 336 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 4: Petrowski and all those grapplers, so he can grapple Brian 337 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 4: Battle kind of the same thing. He's just been overwhelming 338 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 4: guys with size and power, but he's been overwhelming Walter 339 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 4: Wight's with size and power while failing to make the 340 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 4: weight class. Now he's coming up to one to eighty 341 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 4: five fighting a bigger guy. Honestly, similar to the Hamsat dynamic, 342 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 4: where when your whole thing was size and strength over someone, 343 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 4: and now you don't have that. Hard for me to 344 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 4: see why you should be favored. I think there's a 345 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 4: reasonably close fight until somebody lands a big shot. I 346 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 4: think it's probably Rusaboya. At first, he's got the height 347 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 4: I think he would also have the grappling advantage should 348 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 4: either of them try it, but I'm not really expecting 349 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 4: that to be a big factor here. And to be clear, 350 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 4: if Brian battles plus money, i'd probably bet him too. 351 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 3: It's just it's hard. 352 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 4: For me to see him as a favorite coming up 353 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 4: a weight class when that physical advantage was such a 354 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 4: big part of his game at one seventy and it 355 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 4: was outright cheating when you don't make weight and then 356 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 4: bully people with size, So there's part. 357 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 3: Of that too. 358 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Another fight Karine Silva against Fanni Barbosa and the 359 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: women's flyweight division. Barbosa actually has a head to head 360 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 2: win over Silva from twenty nineteen, and I assumed, you know, 361 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 2: seeing the odds, knowing that in fact that Silva was 362 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: significantly younger. I think there's like a six month age 363 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 2: gap between these two. It's less than a year, I believe, 364 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 2: So Silva is not some prospect that are twenties that 365 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 2: is still making significant improvements. These are both finished products. 366 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 2: Silva does have the better UFC win. She also trains 367 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: with a better camp, arguably with the fighting nerds, but 368 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 2: was too popular of a selection for this week. In 369 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 2: my projections, I make bo Barbosa about plus one forty. 370 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,239 Speaker 2: I would better to plus one fifty. I also make 371 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 2: her decision prop about plus two hundred. You can bet 372 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: that at plus two eighty currently. And I also like 373 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 2: the fight to go to a DC as well. I 374 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: think there's value on all three Barbosa moneyline, Barbosa decision 375 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 2: and fight ghost the decision, Billy, was it purely the 376 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 2: first fight between these two. I know it's from twenty nineteen, 377 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 2: so it's quite a while ago. What led you to 378 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 2: Barbosa as the values side of this fight? 379 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this is partially just a classic. We 380 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 4: have a fight we highly expect to go to the decision. 381 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 4: It's going to be close, hard to pick a side. 382 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 4: One fighter is getting, you know, much better money line onds. 383 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 4: Partially it's just the dynamics here, though, Karini Silva primarily 384 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 4: wins via grappling. Dianno Barbosa was the reason she has 385 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 4: less fights despite being a little bit older and less 386 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 4: of a resume is because she was competing in judo 387 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 4: and jiu jitsu at a high level before transitioning to MMA. 388 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 4: You can't take a grappling based game plan into a 389 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 4: fight against her and expect to have success, almost a 390 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 4: little bit like the Amanda Hebus Tabitha Ricci dynamic from 391 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 4: about a month ago, where Barbosa, like Ricci, has the 392 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 4: judo and jiu jitsu, where the other fighter just has 393 00:18:59,520 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 4: one of those. 394 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 3: I know he was also. 395 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 4: As a judo black belt before the commentors come at me. 396 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 4: So it'll be a fairly close fight where one fighter 397 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 4: has the better top control and take down via her judo, 398 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 4: and that fighter we're getting plus money on and we 399 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 4: expect it to go to decision. And again, as you 400 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 4: pointed out, this is a rematch. I was very surprised 401 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 4: to see that just the third pro fight for Barbosa 402 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 4: at the time, where Silva had had like ten or eleven. Probably, 403 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 4: if anything, you can make the case that Barbosa has 404 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 4: progressed more since then than Silva, just in terms of 405 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 4: the amount of experience, the experience differential at the time. 406 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 4: I should say so all the above agree with your 407 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 4: takes on it as well. I think that's a really 408 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 4: good price for getting. 409 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 2: On her last fighter to make the scales this morning, 410 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 2: just got on drag just getting to the scales at 411 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: one hundred and sixteen pounds as she returns to the 412 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 2: strawweight division. This has historically been the division where she 413 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 2: has had her most success. Just has a massive power 414 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 2: advantage over most strawweights. Very physical is getting pretty late 415 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 2: in her career. But I do think Andrage, in terms 416 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 2: of projections, is the value side of her fight against 417 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 2: loopy Godnaz now Go Dinas in terms of stylistic matchups, 418 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 2: seemingly should be able to take Androge down and potentially 419 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 2: finish her because Onrage when things are going against her. 420 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 2: At this point, she seems to give up in her 421 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: fights and allow opponents to submit her and get out 422 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 2: of there. So I don't necessarily love Andrage going against 423 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 2: the chain wrestler who can also box, but back down 424 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 2: at strawwaite. I do think she is probably a little 425 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 2: bit undervalued, and also this fight not betting it straight 426 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 2: to go to a decision, but this is another fight 427 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: that is juiced to go to a decision. I projected 428 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 2: it Onrage by decision at plus one seventy. You can 429 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 2: bet it as high as plus two seventy. And I 430 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 2: also make this money line about a coin flip you 431 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: can better at plus one twenty five so Androge to 432 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 2: plus one ten Andrage by decision two about plus two hundred. 433 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 2: I think are both viable value bets. I'm just not 434 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 2: super confident in either, given this stage. 435 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 3: Of her career. 436 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 2: If this was flyweight, though, I certainly wouldn't be betting it. 437 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 2: Since he's coming back down to strawweight, I'm a little 438 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 2: bit more intrigued by it. Billy thoughts on Ondrige and 439 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: Goddaz this weekend. 440 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, Jessica and Rodge is the female Kevin Holland. She 441 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 4: goes back and forth between two weight classes, mainly because 442 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 4: she wants to stay super active. 443 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 3: I believe she fought five or six. 444 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 4: Times in twenty twenty three, just one of the more 445 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 4: active women in the sport. And she's much much better 446 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 4: when she actually cuts the weight to make one fifteen. 447 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 4: You know, it's a smaller distance between those weight classes 448 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 4: than it is for Holland. But I think it's not 449 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 4: just the fact that she's fighting smaller fighters, but also 450 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 4: the discipline she has to have in camp to make 451 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 4: that weight class also makes her a better fighter along 452 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 4: the way. Like her at this price, she's not old, 453 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 4: She's just got a lot of mileage. I mean, she 454 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 4: had twenty nine UFC fights and she's thirty three years old. 455 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 4: She's only like a year older than Loopy, or year 456 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 4: and a half something like that. I do worry about 457 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 4: the mid a little bit. I'm on the Androdge side 458 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 4: as well. I'm just hoping for a better price. Might 459 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 4: be a good DFS salary saver, though I think it's 460 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 4: probably where I'll have most of my Androdge exposure because 461 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 4: if there is a finish, it's probably Androdge's power, not 462 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 4: Lupi's wrestling. So the floor is a decision loss, the 463 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 4: ceiling is a knockout win. 464 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 3: That's the kind of fighter I want to target. 465 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 2: To move on to our top prop section, there is 466 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 2: one fight that we are kind of head to head 467 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: on this week, though I believe either of us would 468 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 2: respect the other's opinion in terms of how we're betting 469 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 2: this fight, because I think it's pretty obvious in terms 470 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: of the cardio dynamic. McCall Olik State Chuck and Gerald 471 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 2: Mehershart McCall early Mirrorshart potentially late. McCall used to fight 472 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 2: at light heavyweight, now cuts down to middleweight. What I 473 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 2: really like, he's eight years younger and also moved his 474 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 2: camp full time to Fighting Nerds. Was only at Fighting 475 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 2: Nerds briefly before his last matchup against Driguez. Dumas did 476 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 2: a full camp at Fighting Nerds this time around, so 477 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 2: I'm expecting his grappling defense, which has historically been the 478 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 2: weakest part of his game, to continue to improve. He's 479 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: training with Hudolfo Vieira, who's there now, Kyle Ohio, who's 480 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: the backup fighter for the main event, basically the head 481 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: coach of that team, but a high level grappler who 482 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 2: can give McCall some really good rounds in terms of 483 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: defending the grappling. So I just expect the defensive grappling, 484 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 2: the worst part of his game, to continue to improve 485 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 2: with him training at a grappling orient or not a 486 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 2: grappling Rinything camp, because they have some good strikers there, 487 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 2: like Protests and Gene Silva, but they do have some 488 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: very good grapplers in the room as well, and specifically 489 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 2: in his division in terms of vi Era in Ohio, 490 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 2: and I don't really think GM three likes getting pressure. 491 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 2: Do you see him circling into Hamza's powerhand when he 492 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 2: gets knocked out. There's going to be a big speed 493 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 2: differential in this fight early and most specifically McCall what 494 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 2: he does that I love a lot. He'll mix it 495 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 2: up to the body and head. He'll find combinations to 496 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 2: the head, and then when you cover up, he'll rip 497 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: you to the body, especially backing up against defense. So 498 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 2: I like him round one KO plus one forty five, 499 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 2: But I also like the under one and a half 500 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: rounds at minus one twenty five GM three not out 501 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,719 Speaker 2: of the question that he finds a way to get 502 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 2: a submission here to scramble, you know, gets knocked down 503 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 2: ma colle, jumps on top GM three, gets something off 504 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 2: of his backer, potentially even just finds a way to 505 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 2: get a guillotine in the first seven and a half 506 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 2: minutes of the fight. So I think the under one 507 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 2: and a half more than fine at minus one twenty five. 508 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 2: McCall round one KO plus two forty five a little 509 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 2: bit short, but I think it ends up hitting and 510 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 2: there's all. You could also met a sing game parlay 511 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 2: with McCall in the under one and a half rounds 512 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 2: at plus money. I just prefer that round one prop, 513 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 2: I think if you're betting it, but live after round one, 514 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 2: live after seven and a half minute mark on GM 515 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 2: three because down the stretch, GM three late by sub 516 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 2: I think is certainly a viable angle. 517 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 3: Bill. 518 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 2: You're going GM three round three sub or no GM 519 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 2: three by seven at plus four fifties, So you think 520 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 2: this could take part at any point in the fight. 521 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 2: Do you think, though it's likelier to occur later a 522 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 2: rounds two, round three? 523 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 3: I'm not sure. That's always a tough question with submissions because. 524 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 4: The overall rate is higher early, but a guy like 525 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 4: Olajchuk who slows down, maybe it's late. 526 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 3: I'm not that. 527 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 4: Worried about it, though, because it's plus four fifty when 528 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 4: GM three's money line is less than half that in 529 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 4: twelve of his thirteen UFC wins or submissions, while five 530 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 4: of Mchhal's UFC loss of its seven UFC losses are 531 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 4: by submission. Both guy in this fight is really good 532 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 4: at what the other one's bad at. I love your 533 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 4: round one knockout pick. I looked at both of those. 534 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 4: It's just the price adjustment for mhel on the round 535 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 4: one knockout or knockout in general wasn't nearly as drastic 536 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,479 Speaker 4: as it was for GM three. We'll probably end up 537 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 4: betting both of it. GM three when he loses, he 538 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 4: gets knocked out. Mckal when he wins, he gets knockouts, 539 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 4: and vice versa. On submissions the other way feels like 540 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 4: a fairly obvious dynamic here. Yes, Mihal's grapling is going 541 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 4: to be a little bit better training with fighting nerds 542 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 4: for six months. GM three has been submitting everybody in 543 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 4: the UFC for like fifteen years. He's a high level 544 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 4: black belt. You're not going to catch up on training camp. 545 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:05,719 Speaker 4: So very very obvious graph flavor striker binary. I think 546 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 4: you're right about the early versus late dynamic is also 547 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 4: there as well, But at plus four fifty, I'm not 548 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 4: getting picky and trying to shoot around, you know, a 549 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 4: quarter unit to win more than one. 550 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 3: More than happy with. 551 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 2: That consensus under that we like For this week between 552 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: Jeff Neil and Carlos protest the under two and a 553 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 2: half rounds at minus one twenty two to fight to 554 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 2: end inside the distance closer to minus one sixty. I 555 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 2: projected this fight though, to end inside the distance around 556 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 2: minus two hundred In terms of an actual number process 557 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 2: taller and longer two inches taller three inch reach advantage 558 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 2: another fighting Nerds member, but more of a striker, more 559 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: of a we tie kickboxer, likes to stay at range. 560 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 2: Jeff Neil going to try to counter him. I do 561 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 2: worry Billy in terms of betting this under that this 562 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 2: is one where we get knocked downs on both sides. 563 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: We get a lot of volume, we get a lot 564 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 2: of screaming from the announcers, and then it comes all 565 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 2: fifteen minutes and we get some weird scorecards and a 566 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: split decisions. So this could be a scream at your 567 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: TV because nobody finishes under. But I do think given 568 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 2: the pace, the lack of striking defense from protests who 569 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 2: only defend strikes at forty eight percent, Neil's willingness to 570 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 2: engage and go into the fire, it seems like somebody 571 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 2: probably falls here. So what do you like the under 572 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 2: up to in terms of pricing? And then who do 573 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 2: you think comes out on top? 574 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, I took the under two and a half at 575 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 4: minus one twenty two rather than the ends inside the distance, 576 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 4: same thing like there, I'd say appropriately priced or the 577 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 4: difference between those is appropriate. I like process here, and 578 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 4: I think he's going to win. I think if he wins, 579 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 4: it's probably with a knockout, where Neil has more decision equity. 580 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 4: But when the unders or the fight inside ends, inside 581 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 4: the distance is a better price than process is. Money line, 582 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 4: It just makes more sense to me to open all 583 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 4: that up. 584 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 3: Did the full. 585 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 4: Breakdown of this one. Neil's really going to have to 586 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 4: press forward and kind of come inter range because he 587 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 4: is the shorter and stockire fighter his struggles. The guys 588 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 4: who have beat him are all taller, longer fighters like 589 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 4: Carlo's projest. Neil could certainly land once he gets in there, 590 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 4: which is why I like the inside the distance or 591 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 4: the under two and a half. But he's gonna have 592 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 4: to wade through a lot of fire to get there, 593 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 4: which is where process is. Advantage is other fun little 594 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 4: stat If you don't count fights against Ian Gary, neither 595 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 4: of these men have seen a decision in a very 596 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 4: long time. They both went to close decisions against Ian Gary, 597 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 4: who has innate talent to not have anyone get finished 598 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 4: in his fights and suck the fun out of things 599 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 4: outside of those Gary fights. Both these guys, either in 600 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 4: Projester's case, win by knockout or Neil either win or 601 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 4: lose by finish, so likely this one gets done. I 602 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 4: just think it's a better value than taking projess straight out. 603 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 3: What we're fight. 604 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 2: I like from properspective, Billy's got a prop in the 605 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: best bet section that we'll get to you later. Chase 606 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 2: Hooper against Alexander Hernandez. Hooper seventy years younger, the bigger 607 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 2: man forg is taller to inch each avana. We've also 608 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 2: just seen him come into his own physically in the 609 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 2: lightweight division, and he just has way better cardio and 610 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 2: tenacity here against the fighter who typically fades down the stretch. Hernandez, 611 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 2: often a fast starter, typically wins round one, typically hurts 612 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: his opponent in round one, and then declines the longer 613 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 2: his fights go, goes to a number of close decisions, 614 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 2: or is capable of getting finished down the stretch. 615 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 3: Of his fights. 616 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 2: I like this fight ten inside the distance. I projected 617 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: it around minus one eighty. You can bet it at 618 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,239 Speaker 2: minus one fifty. I think Hooper absolutely live to get 619 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 2: nuked in the first round like he did by Steve Garcia. 620 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 2: If not, I think he drowns Hernandez on the mat. 621 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 2: Hernandez a good grappler. I just don't think he's going 622 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 2: to be able to keep up with the physicality and 623 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 2: the tenacity of Hooper's top game. So Hooper inside the 624 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: distance at plus one fourteen, I make that line about 625 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 2: minus one ten, and then Hooper round two at plus 626 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 2: four fifty, around three at plus seven hundred some late 627 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 2: round stabs that I think are absolutely viable giving the 628 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 2: cardio dynamic of its fight. Also, Hooper live after round 629 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 2: one certainly an entry point as well. Billy, any interest 630 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: in betting on Hooper Hernandez any angles of the ones 631 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 2: that I mentioned that you like. 632 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 4: No, I do like Hooper inside the distance if you 633 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 4: can get plus money. My not conspiracy theory, but operating 634 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 4: theory here is that Chase Hooper did not want to 635 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 4: hurt Jim Miller or finish him unless he could pull 636 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 4: off like some stupid cool you know, never before seen submission, 637 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 4: because he just kept trying dumb stuff that wasn't going 638 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 4: to work and refused to hit him in that fight. 639 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 4: Before that, he had finished three straight fights uses ground 640 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 4: and pound really effectively to set up submissions, but again 641 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 4: did not want to hurt Jim Miller. So I think 642 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 4: we're getting a better price on this just because we 643 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 4: saw that last fight where it's like, oh, he couldn't 644 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 4: even finish old man Jim Miller. 645 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 3: He could have, he just didn't want to. 646 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet that that fight the exact same way, 647 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 2: giving a very similar part on Dynamic. I'm happy to 648 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 2: run it back. 649 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 3: It was. 650 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 2: It was a fight where he was just like sitting 651 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 2: on top of Jim Miller, you know, had passed his guard, 652 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 2: was in full mount, and like you're just waiting for 653 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 2: the finish to comment it never materialized. So yeah, I 654 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 2: absolutely agree Key dragged Jim Miller to a decision in 655 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 2: that fight. Before we move on to our best bets, 656 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 2: it is fantasy football season and the Ultimate twenty twenty 657 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 2: five Fantasy Football Draft Kit is here. 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We'll see 677 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: you in Chicago August twenty third Joe's Bar on Weed 678 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: Street for the Fantasy Flex Live event presented by Yahoo's Fantasy. 679 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 2: Thank you Chris, looking forward to that, Looking forward to 680 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 2: diving into all the fantasy football tools that we have 681 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: available to us over the next couple of weeks as 682 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 2: I prepare for my draft two weeks from today, have 683 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 2: to find time to actually prepare for that given all 684 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 2: these fights that we have, really looking forward to this card. 685 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 2: As I said, my best bet for this weekend A 686 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 2: very binary fight the first fight on the main card 687 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 2: between Tim Elliott and Kai Asakura. This fight is around 688 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 2: minus one ten to end inside the distance. I projected 689 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 2: this closer to minus two hundred. I think this matchup 690 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 2: is extremely binary. Typically flyweights finish closer to a fifty 691 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 2: five percent. Obviously I have that closer to sixty seven 692 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 2: percent in this matchup. But Elliott thirty eight years old 693 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 2: coming off of a year and a half layoff, nearly 694 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 2: two year layoff. Oscin Curris seven years younger inch taller, 695 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 2: three inchreach advantage, very explosive and a big striking advantage. 696 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: I think he clips Elliott, hurts him early, and puts 697 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 2: him away, and if not, I think Elliott is able 698 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 2: to take him down, implement his grappling, and potentially find 699 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 2: a submission. I think there's value both on Austin curR 700 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 2: by KO and Elliott submission plus one fifty plus eight fifty, respectively. 701 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 2: I'm now just going to take the under two and 702 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 2: a half rounds at plus money or the fight to 703 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 2: end inside the distance at about a pick them price. Billy. 704 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 2: Any thoughts on Elliott and Nasa curR this weekend and 705 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 2: rejoining me on this under Yeah, that was my read too. 706 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 4: I've wanted to get to Tim Elliott as an underdog here, 707 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 4: but I just can't quite get there. He has a 708 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 4: little bit of that Michael Johnson and him, where he's 709 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 4: going to lose to guys he shouldn't, but also beat 710 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 4: guys he shouldn't. That was my recollection of it. But 711 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 4: then I went and looked back and he has a 712 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 4: lot of what I would be moral victories against higher 713 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 4: ranked opponents where Wow, tim Elliott really acquitted himself well 714 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 4: in there, but just couldn't quite walk away with his 715 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 4: hand raised. 716 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 3: I think that's probably the likeliest case here. 717 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 4: He's more competitive than the line would imply, but at 718 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 4: some point Osacre I finds the button and puts him out. 719 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 3: So I'm with you. 720 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 4: I probably would lean to Ossacre with the finish rather 721 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 4: than just inside the distance. But given the awkwardness that 722 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 4: is tim Elliott, especially in the grappling department, yours would 723 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 4: be a much more comfortable bet, So I'm with you 724 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:33,479 Speaker 4: on that one. 725 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 3: Mostly. 726 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 2: Jared Kennoneer against Michael Vanna and Paige MVP in the 727 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 2: middleweight division, Page Fourge is taller two inch reach advantage 728 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 2: even though he is the former wealth weight, whereas Cannoneer 729 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 2: is a former heavyweight. Jared has the power advantage, likely 730 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 2: has some grappling upside too. I think he needs to 731 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 2: bowl the MVP up against defense or land takedowns in 732 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 2: order to win this fight. Generally, his success has come 733 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 2: against people who were willing to strike and stand in 734 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 2: front of him, Cop Marvin Vittori, Kelvin Gastam, guys who 735 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 2: will just exchange in the pocket with him, when guys 736 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 2: can move around the cage atastnya Imovov, Kyle Ohio, Robert Whittaker, 737 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 2: Cannadar his struggle a little bit more, and those guys 738 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 2: have tended to pick him apart. So I think against 739 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 2: the guy who can move well, who has the speed advantage, 740 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 2: like MVP Canada nears the correll up against the fencer. 741 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 2: As I said, take him down and put him flat 742 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 2: on his back. And that's the bet that you like 743 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 2: for this fight, Billy, It's Jared Cannoneer to land one 744 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 2: plus takedown over half a takedown at plus money. So 745 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 2: what's your price target for that bet? And then how 746 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,280 Speaker 2: do you see this fight playing out? I like MVPD 747 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 2: by decision at around plus one twenty. But I certainly 748 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 2: see the angle and the argument for Cannon near on 749 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 2: the money line this weekend. 750 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, my hot take is that MVP actually picks up 751 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 4: his first UFC finish late in this one, like he 752 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 4: kind of just finally finds the button on cannon here. 753 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 4: He has been taking a lot of damage. You know, 754 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 4: we all thought he was dead against g Rod before 755 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 4: he somehow came back bad stoppage against Bohio, but took 756 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 4: a ton bad no stoppage against Kyle Ojio where he 757 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 4: took a ton of damage. Like it's starting to add 758 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 4: up on Jared Cannoneer. But as you pointed out those 759 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 4: fights where he's had success, he took down Gregory Rodriguez 760 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 4: despite being the way worst grappler in that matchup. Four 761 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 4: takedowns on Marvin Batory guy, it's hard to take down. 762 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 4: One takedown on Nacerdine Imovov, also a guy you would 763 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 4: not expect Cannoneer to initiate the grappling with. And MVP 764 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 4: got taken down twice by I and Gary not really 765 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 4: a grappler, and twice by Kevin Holland, who also grapples 766 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 4: only accidentally, so it just feels like that's something that's 767 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 4: going to be there. If you can get even money 768 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 4: or better on one takedown, I would take that. Those 769 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 4: move around all the time. As soon as I saw it, 770 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,720 Speaker 4: I posted it in the Action discord the fights channel 771 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 4: where we hang out in there and talk about not 772 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 4: sure if it's exactly the same by the time you 773 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 4: guys are listening to this, but that was the price 774 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 4: I got. If it goes to over one and a half, 775 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 4: I think i'd probably want like close to two to 776 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 4: one hour. Getting that second takedown before he runs into 777 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 4: trouble might be where I draw the line, but I 778 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 4: do think he gets at least one. 779 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 2: I projected MVP's money line here at minus two ten. 780 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 2: I'm actually a little bit interested now in maybe a 781 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,720 Speaker 2: same game parlay with cannon Heir to land a takedown 782 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 2: an MVP to win on the money line. A little 783 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 2: reverse correlation, but two things I think are potential value bets, 784 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 2: so something to look into as well. MVP still winning 785 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 2: the fight despite Cannonier getting taken down Billy and I 786 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 2: leaned towards him. Not a huge age differential here, He's 787 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 2: only about three years younger, but as Billy pointed out, 788 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 2: Canady are taking a ton of damage in his recent fights. 789 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 2: I think the cliff is likely coming for him at 790 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 2: some point soon. And if I am betting one money line, 791 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 2: it is actually MVP who's the value bet in terms 792 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 2: of the projected odds. So I do like that cannon 793 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 2: ear takedown prop quite a bit too. I think it's 794 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 2: just how he needs to go about the fight if 795 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 2: he wants to win. Three other fights we didn't get 796 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 2: to on this card, A couple have lines coming out late. 797 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 2: One is the tough fight between Morales and Adirra s 798 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 2: Adiras knock where I pronounced that last name. 799 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 3: Uh. 800 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,760 Speaker 2: We have a Contender Series DeBie Town by singer Suster Kayev, 801 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 2: who won on Contender Series on Tuesday, making his USC 802 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 2: debut just four days later. He closed as a minus 803 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 2: three seventy five favorite. On Contender Series opened min A 804 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 2: eight fifty against Eric Nolan, the CFFC champion for Saturday. 805 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 2: And then the one main fight, the one fight that 806 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 2: has we have data we have lines on that we 807 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 2: didn't get to is Edson Barbosa against Truck Carr. Close 808 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 2: my model, says Ko says, close and goes to the decision. 809 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 2: I'm an Edsen Barbosa fan, and both of these guys 810 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 2: are de krepit and fragile, so I will probably be 811 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 2: passing on that fight from a betting perspective. So, Billy, 812 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 2: let's start with Barboza against Close. Any thoughts you have 813 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,879 Speaker 2: on that fight, and then just give me your take 814 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 2: on Bassanger because you were you were very hype about 815 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 2: him and his Contender series win. I think you were 816 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 2: calling him striking Hamzat or Hamsat two point zero. So 817 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 2: anyways you might bet on his fight, and then any 818 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 2: thoughts you have on Barbosa against Clothes. 819 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I also lean Edson Barbosa, I think probably more 820 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,320 Speaker 4: out of heart than head. If you want something silly 821 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 4: and fallin in a good price, just do the Barbosa 822 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 4: parlay with Fioni and Edson together. Why not, you know, 823 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 4: like not financial advice, just to have a little bit 824 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 4: of a fun sweat on that one. 825 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 3: As far as by Sanger, he trains with Hamza. 826 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 4: He is also from Chechnya, did a lot of fighting 827 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 4: and training in Dagistan as well, and then Hamzak brought 828 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 4: him in as like his primary sparring partner in California 829 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 4: for this one, which is why he was available to 830 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 4: take both the Contender Series fight and this fight on 831 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 4: short notice. Wasn't even originally scheduled for the Contender Series. 832 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 4: That fight was added late as well, So he's doing 833 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 4: two late notice fights in the in the span of 834 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 4: five days. But they're giving him a walterweight who's coming up. 835 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 4: You know, a guy is okay, but definitely not this 836 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 4: level of prospect. I think Baser probably rolls through him 837 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 4: pretty easy. We got minus one fifty on his inside 838 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 4: the distance on the Contender Series, which I took. Not 839 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 4: getting those prices on that now, other than heavy d 840 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 4: FS exposure, I'm not sure how we handled that one. 841 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 4: We don't even have salaries for him in that though, 842 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 4: so that might also be ridiculous, kind of just in 843 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 4: a holding pattern until we see some props. The one 844 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 4: thing I will say is he does not wrestle offensively. 845 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 4: He stands like Hamzad, he jumps in with the right 846 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,399 Speaker 4: hand like Hamzat, but he doesn't then wrestle. But he's 847 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 4: undefeated with his first handful of fights all being in 848 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,320 Speaker 4: Cheshneya and Dagistan, which tells me he can probably defensively 849 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 4: wrestle pretty well, because I don't see how you emerge 850 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 4: from those areas with an undefeated record without having to 851 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 4: fight some grapplers. So not worried about him getting taken down. 852 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,399 Speaker 4: I think this one mostly is contested on the feed though, 853 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 4: and I did not watch a single second of this 854 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 4: season The Ultimate Fighter, so I got nothing on those guys. 855 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 3: I don't know about you, Sean. 856 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, same same for me as well. I'm the tough guys. 857 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 2: We'll be passing on that fight. You know, props out 858 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,760 Speaker 2: for the Caesar Kayak fights. We will monitor those lines 859 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 2: as they come out. I doubt we'll find anything actuable. 860 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 2: His minus his round one prop will probably be like 861 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 2: minus three hundred, but you know, something does pop, we'll 862 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 2: be sure to fire it in the eye Nember gap. 863 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 2: But that'll do it for a UFC betting preview. You 864 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 2: can find more UFC betting content for both Billy and 865 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,760 Speaker 2: myself on Actionnework dot com. 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