Speaker 1: The Boys. What's up, pups, Wolves, Everybody tuning in for
Speaker 1: another episode of Busting with the Boys. That's your boy,
Speaker 1: Will Compton and Tarry Lawan. Taylor's not here right now.
Speaker 1: I'm out in Oakland, California. I do the weekly intros.
Speaker 1: Cats out the bag. I do the weekly intros every week.
Speaker 1: Yeah boy, update, boy got signed by the Black and
Speaker 1: Silver Oakland Raiders. Big win yesterday. Shout out to the boys.
Speaker 1: Man fucking it was awesome to be a part of.
Speaker 1: I'm out here in this grimy extended day right now.
Speaker 1: I'm just sitting here. Literally, I'm in my socks, in
Speaker 1: my underwear, just sitting lonely in this extended stay hotel.
Speaker 1: Love being out here. Number one, but number two, this
Speaker 1: hotel holy shit smells like cigarettes. Like it's just I mean,
Speaker 1: you smell weed everywhere. You smell cigarettes. You saw. I
Speaker 1: fucking saw a rat big enough. I named him Splinter.
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's a it's a time out here in
Speaker 1: this extended stay. But a couple of quick couple reminders,
Speaker 1: a couple updates. Number one, number fucking one, And I'm
Speaker 1: sorry to curse, but I gotta curse because I got
Speaker 1: a put emphasis on that. I need your guys' attention,
Speaker 1: specially Titans fans, especially the boys out the two Tone
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Speaker 1: everybody knew. These episodes are recorded ahead of time. These
Speaker 1: episodes were recorded ahead of time. And I just say
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Speaker 1: people chirping like, hey, tell your boy, we're not even
Speaker 1: gonna go there. Take that far, wafted, wafted in their faces,
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Speaker 3: You might be hearing this little voice right here. You're thinking,
Speaker 3: I know that voice. That's my father. You're right, it's
Speaker 3: your dad. Hi, Dad of Nashville. There's about two million
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Speaker 3: An amazing guy, amazing person, got the work ethic of
Speaker 3: a Clydesdale dude, gets after in every single way. Played
Speaker 3: in a couple of teams, same draft class as each other.
Speaker 3: Jordan Matthews, rev aplaus with the boy. Right now, there
Speaker 3: is birthday.
Speaker 1: We might have to get some you know, some spanking.
Speaker 2: WHOA All right.
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Speaker 3: but he's not acting. Hey, cuche, but.
Speaker 1: Anyway, cuche, cuche. We have Jordan Matthews. We're gonna talk
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Speaker 1: whole bit. We're gonna have fun. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: my man's story. We're gonna talk about what he enjoys most,
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Speaker 1: couple of years because he was a baller back in Philly,
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Speaker 1: that I met at Vanderbilt, he's a warrior. But yeah,
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Speaker 2: Let's get it. I turned twenty seven a day. It's
Speaker 2: been a good day so far.
Speaker 4: I woke up, had breakfast one of my good friends,
Speaker 4: our players in college players cap out of a side.
Speaker 4: So I ate one of my line brothers for breakfast
Speaker 4: this morning. When it got a haircut, you gotta get fresh.
Speaker 4: I gotta fly back to go see the wifey in DC,
Speaker 4: so you know it's on and popping.
Speaker 2: Once I get back.
Speaker 1: A birthday cut.
Speaker 2: Gotta be fresh. I gotta have birthday cut.
Speaker 4: And then I went and had lunch, and so now
Speaker 4: I'm on the bus man. It's been a great morning
Speaker 4: so far.
Speaker 3: Just solid. I wish we actually did bring you a
Speaker 3: little president a little merch on you right there.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 3: You didn't even have to pay us for that, because
Speaker 3: it's your birthday. No guests they have to pay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like I've reached full on dad mode,
Speaker 4: where all you wear is free T shirts that you
Speaker 4: get from other people a little bit, so you know,
Speaker 4: I walked in with a Vanda, but one obviously free,
Speaker 4: and just got another one today, so I haven't bought
Speaker 4: a shirt in years.
Speaker 2: But you know, hey, I'm full dad mod so it's
Speaker 2: all good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll brought you to that, We'll brought you back home.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: I actually had to come down for a quick I
Speaker 4: do a little couple of PRPs before the year starts,
Speaker 4: just to get some good stem cells back in some
Speaker 4: of the joints. This is for your knee, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: for the knee. So just you know, I've gotten to
Speaker 4: the point where I'm back to one hundred percent. But
Speaker 4: at the same time, I don't ever want to go
Speaker 4: back down that road those injuries and that rehab, Like,
Speaker 4: let me be proactive about the stuff from now on.
Speaker 4: So I got to come down meet with some of
Speaker 4: my dogs from VANDIT. But on Monday I was like,
Speaker 4: all right, I might as well kick you for the
Speaker 4: next couple of days.
Speaker 2: So I got to.
Speaker 4: Run to you guys yesterday and now I'm on the
Speaker 4: bus today. So I feel like I'm doing pretty good
Speaker 4: this time around.
Speaker 3: That's a quick turnaround. You got to do that prehab
Speaker 3: instead of doing that rehab and man standing on top
Speaker 3: of it dude, that's a big deal. Will's will is
Speaker 3: bigger than stuff you listened to Ben Greenfield.
Speaker 2: Ever, I've not listened to Ben Greenfield. You got to
Speaker 2: put me on.
Speaker 1: Just go to Ben Greenfield or I mean, we don't
Speaker 1: want to shout out his podot.
Speaker 3: We don't wan to shout out Ben Genfields podcast Grief.
Speaker 3: That's a great podcast.
Speaker 1: That's a great podcast. Has a lot a lot of
Speaker 1: good insight, a lot of good inside, a lot of
Speaker 1: good recovery stuff. He just kind of experiments on himself
Speaker 1: all the time and then provides all that data to
Speaker 1: everybody on what works, what doesn't, what he's really into.
Speaker 1: If you're an athlete, if you're an average joe, if
Speaker 1: you're in between athlete ever shoe which equals CrossFit? Right,
Speaker 1: Oh well, dude, it takes a lot of hard work
Speaker 1: to be this mediocre looking dude.
Speaker 3: The thing that's important is if you guys, if there's
Speaker 3: an athlete out there that thinks I want to know
Speaker 3: how to make my body better. Ben greed Fields is
Speaker 3: a great podcast. This is not the podcast that is
Speaker 3: going to get that's going to give you life hacks
Speaker 3: for those types of things. We're here to have fun times,
Speaker 3: gig a little bit and enjoy ourselves and meet some
Speaker 3: cool people. But as far as Puffy goes, hit me
Speaker 3: real quick on what PRP is, I know, but just
Speaker 3: hit the viewers what it is.
Speaker 2: So basically, play lit rich plasma.
Speaker 4: So whenever you want to get some healing into an area,
Speaker 4: obviously the biggest things are getting blood and oxygen in
Speaker 4: that area. That's how scabs heal, that's how bones come
Speaker 4: back together. And so there's a couple areas in the body,
Speaker 4: like tendons, especially the patul tendon, where oxygen and blood
Speaker 4: cells don't actually.
Speaker 2: Get to as efficiently.
Speaker 4: And so the best way to do is to take
Speaker 4: your own blood out of your arm and then put
Speaker 4: it back into your body. We all know that our
Speaker 4: body has self already made healing components. That's a beautiful
Speaker 4: thing about the human body. But it's just making it
Speaker 4: a lot easier to take your own blood, put it
Speaker 4: back into an area and to promote faster healing.
Speaker 2: So before the season, a lot of guys will do it.
Speaker 4: I know a couple of my boys and the Eagles,
Speaker 4: they still do it before the season, just to be proactive.
Speaker 4: And so, like I said, I had a couple of
Speaker 4: injuries after my third year, and it took me a while,
Speaker 4: a couple of surgeries really get back healthy. And that's
Speaker 4: kind of when I learned about taking that whole holistic approach,
Speaker 4: learned about my body, learning about recovery and so now, man,
Speaker 4: so it's a full on job.
Speaker 2: My wife also plays sports. She's a professional soccer player.
Speaker 4: She plays in DC and she also plays for the
Speaker 4: Jamaican national team, and so she's all on board with
Speaker 4: it too.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: So our whole family man has kind of gone on
Speaker 4: this holistic train and trying to figure out the best
Speaker 4: way to improve quality of life.
Speaker 2: So we really enjoying it.
Speaker 1: Now. You did a cocktail of PRP in stem so
Speaker 1: you said.
Speaker 2: I only did PRP just PRP.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, familiar with stem cell too, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a million stimson. If I was recovering from an
Speaker 4: actual injury, I would definitely done stins. I've actually done
Speaker 4: stem cell before. From an in biblical court, I've done
Speaker 4: that before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the embryotic or amniotic or embryonic stems.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to butcher the word, but I know
Speaker 4: for a fact it was from it was from a
Speaker 4: C section. They took it out, and then they actually
Speaker 4: put in my hamstring when I pulled my hamstring with
Speaker 4: the Patriots, and I came back in like.
Speaker 2: Four weeks, so I got it. I've got a two
Speaker 2: year old hamstring right now, but it's going well.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Unless year I had a grade too. I tore
Speaker 1: my hamstring as well and did the same thing, had
Speaker 1: pr or stem cell put right into it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was.
Speaker 1: Back, you know, in four weeks. Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy, man.
Speaker 1: That stuff is. That stuff really does work. What's up?
Speaker 3: Nothing? I just I remember when you had that hamstring issue.
Speaker 3: Another I remember. I remember talking to the head trainer
Speaker 3: and he's like, well.
Speaker 1: Trust me, we had the same conversation where you got
Speaker 1: knocked out.
Speaker 3: It's a video of it. There's literally a video of
Speaker 3: me sleeping on the ground.
Speaker 1: Yeah I know. And then they're like, man, he's really
Speaker 1: he's really milking that thing. Like a week after a week.
Speaker 3: I played played thirteen days later. That's a big deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, what's Taylor Bell? He jokes around with me.
Speaker 1: I don't know why he has been coming to work.
Speaker 2: You know, once you once you pay a guy, you know, hey, that's.
Speaker 1: But for people that for people that don't know, explain
Speaker 1: like what your injury was and what you've been overcoming
Speaker 1: the last year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So what it really was, honestly, we just overtime
Speaker 4: was wearing tear kind of think called ten and noses.
Speaker 4: So a lot of people are familiar with the word
Speaker 4: ten and I it's ten and knights. Basically just a
Speaker 4: little bit wearing down the tissue. But you can kind
Speaker 4: of bounce back from ten the knights with.
Speaker 2: A little bit of rest and recovery.
Speaker 4: I had reached the point where no amount of rest
Speaker 4: and recovery was going to help those fibers come back together,
Speaker 4: and so I had to actually God to do some
Speaker 4: other procedures to really get that thing, to get the
Speaker 4: knee back to where it was. And so that was
Speaker 4: the first thing. And so that kind of happened as
Speaker 4: I was leaving the Eagles. And so when I left
Speaker 4: the Eagles, I actually was already hurt and I was
Speaker 4: in need of some type of stuff.
Speaker 1: When you say leaving the Eagles, your contract was up,
Speaker 1: and no, I got I got traded. I got traded,
Speaker 1: that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2: I got trade to.
Speaker 4: Buffalo, and you know, and like I said, I had
Speaker 4: had a good time in Buffalo. I like made one
Speaker 4: joke about Buffalo a long time, and I think people
Speaker 4: are still like really upset. I don't know if I'm
Speaker 4: going to go back, so I don't really care if
Speaker 4: they're all bad at me. But at the same time, though,
Speaker 4: I did enjoy myself there, But when I got when
Speaker 4: I got traded there, I was still I was already
Speaker 4: hurt and so I need I was in need of surgery.
Speaker 4: So I literally told my receivers coach, like, look, I
Speaker 4: could probably give you about ten good weeks, but I
Speaker 4: need to go get because I'm going to end up
Speaker 4: hitting free agency and I want to be healthy. So
Speaker 4: I played like ten games man, and I was just
Speaker 4: I was hurting the whole time.
Speaker 1: From the tendinoses, from the yes, from the tendinoses.
Speaker 4: Because I needed an actual procedure at this point. And
Speaker 4: so after the season or after those ten games, they
Speaker 4: put me on IR I went down to James Andrews
Speaker 4: in Florida.
Speaker 2: They did this thing called a ten X procedure.
Speaker 4: So what they did was they go in, they instract,
Speaker 4: they extracted the bad tissue, took bone marrow out of
Speaker 4: my back, spun that around those themselves and then injected
Speaker 4: to my knee and I actually was in a straight
Speaker 4: leg knee brace, and I also had an ankle injury.
Speaker 4: They took out my ostrigonum. It was a bone that
Speaker 4: also got fractured when before I left the Eagles. Yes,
Speaker 4: I was playing on two bad wheels the whole time
Speaker 4: I was in Buffalo. So that off season I had
Speaker 4: ankle surgery and basically a very I want to say
Speaker 4: knee surgery, but it was a pretty a pretty serious procedure.
Speaker 4: And so when I woke up from surgery, I had
Speaker 4: a right leg a right boot on, and a left
Speaker 4: leg knee brace, and I had to recover.
Speaker 1: And that's you entered free agency.
Speaker 2: That's how I entered free agency.
Speaker 1: What was your free agency process?
Speaker 4: Like, honestly, man, it was a trying time, man, you
Speaker 4: know because statistically when I left the Eagles, you know.
Speaker 1: I productive productive.
Speaker 4: I had more catches than anybody in Eagles history through
Speaker 4: the first three years. If you looked at guys like
Speaker 4: that came in with Devonte Adams, these guys who I
Speaker 4: have a ton of respect for, and numbers don't say
Speaker 4: the whole story, but we know for a fact there's
Speaker 4: guys that are getting paid strictly off numbers, correct you so,
Speaker 4: and I felt like I had the numbers to warrant
Speaker 4: a good contract, but all because of those injuries and
Speaker 4: going to Buffalo and having that down.
Speaker 2: Year and having to go get surgery. Literally, I didn't
Speaker 2: get calls.
Speaker 4: For the first four weeks of free agency, and then
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, Bill Belichick and the Patriots call,
Speaker 4: and so they called me, bring me on, and like
Speaker 4: you're not missing any time with them, like OTAs are
Speaker 4: pretty much like training camp. And so, man, it was
Speaker 4: a very trying time for my family.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: We had to definitely lean on a ton of faith.
Speaker 4: But I have a great wife, man, she supported me
Speaker 4: big time. And so I went to OTA's they signed
Speaker 4: me to a contract. I won't say the specific numbers,
Speaker 4: but the numbers basically were if I made ninety percent
Speaker 4: of the off season workouts that I would get a
Speaker 4: good amount of money. I probably got signed that because
Speaker 4: they didn't expect me to be able to get through
Speaker 4: every single workout. But man, you know, stay strong, kept
Speaker 4: getting kept getting better, and took that holistic approach that
Speaker 4: I told you about, made all the workouts, collected a
Speaker 4: little bit of cash and then once I got released
Speaker 4: from them after I pulled my hamstring a camp, I
Speaker 4: went back to the Eagles, went to the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Man, I feel like I'm back on my feet. That's awesome, dude.
Speaker 1: And you were going on other visits besides aside from
Speaker 1: signing with the Patriots, Yes, because remember remember I went
Speaker 1: on my visit to the Titans.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: And you were like, I forget, like why we were texting.
Speaker 1: I think I was just training in Nashville and we
Speaker 1: were trying to link up and train together, and you
Speaker 1: were like, yo, I got a visit coming up too. Yes,
Speaker 1: And we were both kind of excited about us both
Speaker 1: kind of playing. But you just never know what's going
Speaker 1: to happen when they go in and do all the
Speaker 1: medical stuff.
Speaker 4: You never know, you know, And honestly, I was at
Speaker 4: the point where I was like, okay, you know these
Speaker 4: teams know they still look at me like, you know, Okay.
Speaker 4: It was his identity. He's a pass catcher. He'll come
Speaker 4: out here, he'll run routes to work hard, he'll catch
Speaker 4: the ball. And as I get older, i'd be great
Speaker 4: for the young guys because I'm not look, I don't
Speaker 4: got as much skin in the game where it comes
Speaker 4: like I'm not gonna help that guy out, like I
Speaker 4: want to see everybody get paid. I'm more of a
Speaker 4: guy that wants to be cool with guys in the
Speaker 4: locker room too. But I got a call from like
Speaker 4: Green Bay, you know, obviously the Patriots, Titans and so,
Speaker 4: but they were all in league minimum. So I went
Speaker 4: a second round draft pick one point one million guaranteed,
Speaker 4: putting up these numbers, having one year that was down,
Speaker 4: and now here you go, We'll try and give you
Speaker 4: eight hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: And so that was kind of hard.
Speaker 4: But I was like, I'm gonna pick a team where
Speaker 4: I know I can work my butt off, get the
Speaker 4: best opportunity possibly get the ball, and then now you
Speaker 4: get a chance to increase your value. Went to the
Speaker 4: Patriots and do It's crazy. It's like Bill Beljak has
Speaker 4: like the mightiest touch. If you get I would tell
Speaker 4: every free agent, if the Patriots call you, like, undrafted free.
Speaker 2: Agent, go to the Patriots.
Speaker 3: Don't do that.
Speaker 2: Well, no, no, I'm saying that. Well, I'm just saying no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 4: I'm right though, I'm saying, but here's the only thing
Speaker 4: and I shout out to the Niners. I'm not just
Speaker 4: trying to you know what I'm saying, probably the pat
Speaker 4: I'm saying, this is why I saw happens.
Speaker 3: Though.
Speaker 4: These guys will go to the Patriots, they might do terrible,
Speaker 4: but every other team is trying to steal guys from
Speaker 4: the Patriots. They're like, oh, if Bill Belichick thought he
Speaker 4: was good, he must be good.
Speaker 1: Will gave m a chance and he barely didn't make it.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he's.
Speaker 4: It's like, dude, watch your own film, and so honestly,
Speaker 4: I just that's what I That's what I realized.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: Like I was at the Pagers for a little bit,
Speaker 4: had was doing strong in camp, had a good off season,
Speaker 4: was healthy, and then after I even pulled my hamstring,
Speaker 4: I got calls from some some from some contenders, like
Speaker 4: from some serious contenders. Still want to be on league minimum,
Speaker 4: but more calls than I got during the free agency.
Speaker 4: And then once the Eagles called, it was was like,
Speaker 4: no braind Like, I know these guys know the system,
Speaker 4: good friends with Carson, so let's go.
Speaker 3: What's that? What's that like when you go from being
Speaker 3: on a team leaving and coming back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say honestly, it's only it's great unless
Speaker 4: they win the Super Bowl the year you're gone, and
Speaker 4: then it sucks. Absolutely, I can't stand. I hope you
Speaker 4: guys have a ton of people listening right now. If
Speaker 4: you see me, I was not on the Super Bowl team,
Speaker 4: So please don't ask every time I tell somebody, Oh,
Speaker 4: I played for the Eagles for four years. Oh congression,
Speaker 4: shut up like I didn't.
Speaker 1: I wasn't.
Speaker 2: I was not there. It sucks.
Speaker 4: And then I was with the Patriots' past camp. I
Speaker 4: got released, pull my hamstring and they go in the
Speaker 4: Super Bowl, So you know, I don't know. I'm like,
Speaker 4: maybe I'm good for your team, but I don't know.
Speaker 4: But look, bottom line though, was I went back and
Speaker 4: I'm not going lie.
Speaker 2: It was great to be back on my homies.
Speaker 4: But there's still this cloud over your head at first,
Speaker 4: that like, if we don't win or we're not successful,
Speaker 4: it's going to be because I'm here. There's that thing
Speaker 4: in the back of your head because when I was gone,
Speaker 4: when I when they traded me, they were so successful,
Speaker 4: and so when you get back there's that feeling of like, man,
Speaker 4: do I live up.
Speaker 2: I wasn't with the Super Bowl team.
Speaker 1: There's a couple there's a couple of guys back you
Speaker 1: and Djack.
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, d Jack and he's coming back this year
Speaker 4: and so, and I don't know how much he would
Speaker 4: feel that, you know, I guess I felt it a
Speaker 4: little bit more because I was literally in camp for
Speaker 4: the camp that they were going to go on to
Speaker 4: win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: I got traded for Ronald Darby.
Speaker 4: They need a corner, and so then when they go
Speaker 4: do that, and then I come back to pretty much
Speaker 4: the exact same team. Every bolly comes to you like
Speaker 4: if you drop that, that's why.
Speaker 3: You know they've said that to you.
Speaker 2: Oh you get all that.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's why I'm not really heavily on
Speaker 4: social media and stuff, but I was.
Speaker 2: There's some like I honestly, I felt like a lot
Speaker 2: of people.
Speaker 3: You're saying, you're saying people say that people not the teammates.
Speaker 2: No, the teammates were. The teammates were good people.
Speaker 3: That can definitely be like a deep dark hole you
Speaker 3: can get yourself in when when you start reading and
Speaker 3: seeing all the people that are like, oh, you suck,
Speaker 3: we should have done this with you or that with you,
Speaker 3: and we've all been in that certain situation. But it's
Speaker 3: definitely can be almost like a poison that leaks into
Speaker 3: your blame. Then it grows and it's sprouts and it's
Speaker 3: so much easier. I don't know. I keep social media
Speaker 3: because to me, it's like if you these people can
Speaker 3: say whatever they want. At the end of the day,
Speaker 3: I'm the one doing it right, you know what I'm
Speaker 3: saying exactly, And we trained it, and especially the Eagles,
Speaker 3: Like I played there my rookie year. You were there
Speaker 3: and y'all beat us. It was like we were two
Speaker 3: and fourteen that year. But like y'all have some ruthless
Speaker 3: ass fans. Oh, Like the Eagles are crazy things hard.
Speaker 3: You appreciate that, Yeah, you appreciate the hell out of that.
Speaker 3: But it's like you got to live and die by
Speaker 3: that swords sometimes, and it's okay. People people always expect
Speaker 3: the most that if you people never go to themselves
Speaker 3: and say, well, I didn't do this, I didn't do that.
Speaker 3: People always wanting to, hey, I point the finger at
Speaker 3: this guy, this is the reason why I'm not successful
Speaker 3: or my team's not doing this. And as soon as
Speaker 3: you learn that, it's like it's just smoke, Like there's
Speaker 3: a lot of keyboard warriors out there, and the more
Speaker 3: they get after it. If you have haters, then you're
Speaker 3: you're obviously doing something right.
Speaker 2: No question you, no question. Now you got to hit
Speaker 2: it on the head man.
Speaker 4: And so yeah, that was and that was just like
Speaker 4: literally that like kind of like first little hurdle.
Speaker 2: And then I will say, man, when I came down.
Speaker 4: To I score actually my first touchdown back in Nashville,
Speaker 4: because you know.
Speaker 3: Plays it plays on Vanderbilt's highlight reel of your guys's
Speaker 3: two NFL players. You guys have in the league, it's
Speaker 3: your highlights. It's you run that go or whatever it was.
Speaker 3: It was it last year.
Speaker 2: It was last year.
Speaker 3: Remember that. Remember the score of that game? I don't
Speaker 3: remember what.
Speaker 2: I don't remember either.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys, will you look up the score of
Speaker 3: the nineteen Eagles versus a Titans game. Pulled that up quick,
Speaker 3: because I totally forgot was that a Who won that one?
Speaker 1: That was a close one? I think, you know.
Speaker 3: I actually the Eagles posted something the other day. Who's
Speaker 3: that d n You guys have Derek Barnett, Yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: And we we ran a play. We had quick play
Speaker 3: actually was like boom boom, and I like I slept
Speaker 3: on him a little bit and he pushed pulled me
Speaker 3: and got a sack on me that game. It was
Speaker 3: actually my second game back from that concussion. You would
Speaker 3: love to talk about and and like they they posted
Speaker 3: a picture of it on their on their Twitter, and
Speaker 3: I tweeted, like, I remember this, dude.
Speaker 2: You're You're so free on there, dude.
Speaker 3: That's the thing is like, Dude, we talked about this
Speaker 3: before were on the bus. It's so much easier just
Speaker 3: to be yourself. I'm not worried about anybody making fun
Speaker 3: of me, Like, no one's in fun of me more
Speaker 3: than me. You know, no one holds himself to a
Speaker 3: higher standard than I do. Right, so obviously if I
Speaker 3: give up a sack, like it's not going to be like, no,
Speaker 3: that never happened. It's like, well, yeah it should happen, dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And it's like it's just fun. It's easierally fun of
Speaker 3: yourself because Will does a good job of this. He
Speaker 3: gets his ass in front of every joke people are
Speaker 3: going to make on him, got to get.
Speaker 1: Out of there.
Speaker 2: No, I love it.
Speaker 4: No, I've always told people like I take this approach
Speaker 4: now with everything, I either engage or evacuate.
Speaker 2: That's it. Like, so when it comes to social media,
Speaker 2: like I know who I'm wired.
Speaker 4: I'm a communicator, so words mean a lot to me,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So if I know, like, okay, well you're really gonna
Speaker 2: put the score right.
Speaker 3: Twenty six, twenty three, you know what, Cory Davis had
Speaker 3: a touchdown did at the end, taught it?
Speaker 2: He did, We won.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm with the Niners now, so you know I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't really do very is sick.
Speaker 3: I love I love San Francisco.
Speaker 4: I love it man, Santa Clara's more. But it's awesome though.
Speaker 3: You you play with Sherman out there, he's great. He's
Speaker 3: a good dude.
Speaker 4: Really, he's a really good dude, very intelligent, and one
Speaker 4: thing that's not taking he loves his teammates.
Speaker 2: Man, he seems like that really does. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Great, He's like that out at the NFLPA meetings, Like
Speaker 1: he's always like chopping up with everybody, and he's like
Speaker 1: works hard to try and get stuff done and be
Speaker 1: heard and be talking and talk about issues and he's
Speaker 1: always on board with everybody. Anytime I've seen him he's
Speaker 1: been really cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was with him. It was the year I
Speaker 3: think the year before he tore his achillites, and we
Speaker 3: were in Orlando together and I like, you know rich Sherman.
Speaker 3: Every one knows who Richard Truman is, and so like
Speaker 3: the whole legion of Boom thing, and I'm I'm watching
Speaker 3: this dude. We're hanging out the pool and we're talking
Speaker 3: a little bit, but his kids like getting in the
Speaker 3: deep end and not getting like going back and forth.
Speaker 3: This kid's like three or four, and he's like parenting
Speaker 3: his kid and like he's just being a good dad.
Speaker 3: And I took that away. I was like, man, this dude,
Speaker 3: like because all you see, like we were talking aboutside,
Speaker 3: like you just see people's like facades or like how
Speaker 3: they are on social media or like on the football field.
Speaker 3: This due's just being an awesome All weekend was with
Speaker 3: his family having a good time. He seems like an
Speaker 3: awesome dude. And then people think I get I get
Speaker 3: pissed at him because we had a little altercation when we
Speaker 3: played him a couple of years back and I got
Speaker 3: in his face. But he's because he hit Marcus late.
Speaker 3: He's but I still think He's an awesome guy, like
Speaker 3: he's a really good person.
Speaker 2: Great dude, Yeah, great dude. I can't say enough about him.
Speaker 2: A good team, good coach.
Speaker 3: Jimmy Garoppolo out there too. He was in our draft class.
Speaker 3: Most handsome dude in the league, beast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he brought up the people chirp him for.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the first day, first day, because he got it,
Speaker 4: because I'm not gonna, I can't come.
Speaker 1: We're talking about him being out there with that with
Speaker 1: that chick, with what I'm talking about with the porn star,
Speaker 1: with the porn star.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, first day. Let me I get this point.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like it is what it is.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: It's like you're in public. Let's stay if you got caught, what.
Speaker 1: Did you ask him?
Speaker 2: You know why? Because I couldn't. I could not.
Speaker 4: I could not act like I was trying to have
Speaker 4: a genuine friend because look, dude, as a receiver, there's
Speaker 4: like somebody that you like just don't want to be
Speaker 4: all over. It's the quarterback because it's just like, you know,
Speaker 4: you want to be an organic friendship like me and Carson.
Speaker 4: I would say we had a good organic friendship because
Speaker 4: Carson was he was third string. When we first came
Speaker 4: to the Eagles with Sam, Bradford was a starter and
Speaker 4: it was Chase Daniel. He didn't become to start until
Speaker 4: Sam got traded. So I was cool with Carson, you know,
Speaker 4: the third string guy, like we expect him to play.
Speaker 2: He was just a really cool dude, great guy, and
Speaker 2: then he became the starter.
Speaker 4: But nobody would have ever questioned, like, Okay, he's just
Speaker 4: kicking it with cars because he wants the ball. Like
Speaker 4: I was hanging with this dude and he couldn't do
Speaker 4: nothing for me, you know, And that's how I kind
Speaker 4: of like do so with my quarterbacks, Like I don't
Speaker 4: want to be like politically correct.
Speaker 2: Hey, I don't care if this off.
Speaker 1: He just laughed, Jimmy, Jimmy, what's up? Man? Like, hey
Speaker 1: was up that point?
Speaker 3: Stars? Huh yeah, you know you watch your videos before
Speaker 3: you guys whatever, Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: It was, but he was he honestly, he laughed it off. Man.
Speaker 2: He's a super super cool dude, cool with.
Speaker 4: Everybody in the locker room. Uh, but very very focused.
Speaker 4: You can you can tell he he still has a
Speaker 4: lot of that. He got a lot of suf from
Speaker 4: Tom and so he feels that he feels that weight,
Speaker 4: but actually like motivates him.
Speaker 2: So a lot of guys love him. I think he's
Speaker 2: have a really good year this year for us.
Speaker 1: You big fan of Shanahan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a he's cool bro.
Speaker 1: I only have to be around him in with the
Speaker 1: Skins for one or two years when he was like
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks coach and OC.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But how is he as a head guy? How's he's
Speaker 1: a head guy?
Speaker 4: I would probably say he seems like not the type
Speaker 4: of person to be phased by, like, oh, I'm the
Speaker 4: head coach now I have to He has a great
Speaker 4: staff of guys that he trusts. He knows the game
Speaker 4: of football. I will say, man, like my two receivers
Speaker 4: coaches are Wes Welker and Miles Austin. Like it takes
Speaker 4: a very secure head coach to be like, you know what,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna bring on these two ballers because I understand
Speaker 4: the dynamic of a receiver room.
Speaker 2: He's very cerebral.
Speaker 4: He understands like wide receivers, we react better to coaches
Speaker 4: that have that have done it and we and as receivers,
Speaker 4: our whole game is confidence. People say catch and the
Speaker 4: ball is you know eyes and hands, your confidence.
Speaker 2: If you aren't confident, you're not gonna catch anything.
Speaker 4: And so when we're watching film, you got Wes Welker
Speaker 4: number twenty two and catches all time. You got Miles Austin,
Speaker 4: David Kim Kardashian, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Obviously he had he was Miles like as bro.
Speaker 2: It was his house for like a good couple of years.
Speaker 2: So these dudes instill confidence.
Speaker 4: Like if I do something out in practice and Miles
Speaker 4: dass me up, that's like big bro.
Speaker 2: That's like your big bro, and you're twelve, like you're
Speaker 2: the man.
Speaker 4: And so like that's the type of dude I would say,
Speaker 4: like Shanahan, like he knows how to put people in
Speaker 4: the right positions to be their best selves and to
Speaker 4: just relax and play the game. And so that's why
Speaker 4: I really appreciate about him. And I know that he
Speaker 4: thinks deeper than the surface.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, man, that's good. That's good. That's saying, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: you got to listen to him. Bro, Like he dated
Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian.
Speaker 2: You have to got to dude, he's got some stories.
Speaker 3: Does he ever talk about it?
Speaker 2: I mean, he played me at the Eagles.
Speaker 4: So I know all like the stories, but I've told
Speaker 4: the guys like, we got to wait till like third
Speaker 4: week of camp, when it starts to get kind of tiring.
Speaker 4: You got to bring out those stories. Yeah, we got
Speaker 4: get for some juice for practice.
Speaker 1: Like that's funny. That is crazy. You played, you played
Speaker 1: with him, and now he's your coach.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It was a big It was one of the big
Speaker 4: reasons why I ended up going to because, like you know,
Speaker 4: I'm big, guess, I'm big on relationships man, Like I
Speaker 4: love spending time with good people because currency that only
Speaker 4: provides so much happiness, you know, So I want to
Speaker 4: be around good people in good community.
Speaker 2: And so that's what I like about Myles.
Speaker 3: Definitely got to really get ahead on the shoulders.
Speaker 2: Man, got good people, man, good family.
Speaker 1: Currency only provides so much happiness.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's you get Haggard, You get that. That's a
Speaker 3: good boy. Yeah that the puppies out here.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: I love it, dude. That's awesome. You really like you
Speaker 3: really got like stuff taking care of you.
Speaker 4: Been married for so I've been married for two years now,
Speaker 4: like I said, going on three, Like I said, great,
Speaker 4: great wife. Uh we We actually went to Vanderbilt together,
Speaker 4: so I was a junior, she was a freshman. So
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, I need talked to her for
Speaker 4: any of other football players. Do you know I got
Speaker 4: to mark my territory. It's like Haggard And so basically
Speaker 4: we became really good friends though, And I think that
Speaker 4: was the best part about it. Was like she wasn't
Speaker 4: just going to be like all over me because I
Speaker 4: was a football player. So we developed a really good friendship.
Speaker 4: I ended up going to Philadelphia. She got drafted to
Speaker 4: the pro team in DC, And by that time I
Speaker 4: kind of was like I always knew I was going
Speaker 4: to be a family guy. Like my dad's been married
Speaker 4: with my mom for thirty one years. That's like, that's
Speaker 4: my DNA, Like that's what I know.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I always saw a man waking up, going to work early,
Speaker 4: coming home, eating at the dinner table, loving my mom,
Speaker 4: treating her right like my dad would get gifts from
Speaker 4: my mom and holidays, he'd be like, hey, guys, like
Speaker 4: do you think this is good?
Speaker 2: Like do you think she'll like it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And sometimes she would hate it and take it back.
Speaker 2: He's be so dejected, but he's.
Speaker 4: Come back to that right, right, but you come back
Speaker 4: with that same energy the next holiday, like this is
Speaker 4: gonna knock her socks off. And so that was the
Speaker 4: type of effort I saw, and a guy like to treat,
Speaker 4: you know, treating this woman the right way. So that
Speaker 4: was kind of how I was brought up. And so
Speaker 4: when I met shanea man, she was, she was perfect.
Speaker 4: And when she got drafted to d C, I was like, man,
Speaker 4: this is this is nothing but fake.
Speaker 2: Man. I got to go make this thing happened. So
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 4: I was on that Amtrak baby up and down man
Speaker 4: going to her games, spending time Dayton. We started dating
Speaker 4: for about after about in about nine months, I proposed
Speaker 4: and I actually proposed her.
Speaker 2: We used to go eat this pub.
Speaker 1: Every single Day's a place on Vanderbilt campus.
Speaker 4: It's called the Pub, and uh it's a place that
Speaker 4: a lot of people eat on campus, like kind of
Speaker 4: like the cool spot, hip spot. We used to go
Speaker 4: there every Monday when we didn't have practice, and we
Speaker 4: would meet and have a little little dinner. I have wings,
Speaker 4: she had the case of dea, And uh, what I
Speaker 4: did was when the night I proposed or I got
Speaker 4: us a helicopter to go around Nashville.
Speaker 2: We landed flex Taylor, Taylor, Taylor, La.
Speaker 3: We'll get to that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it'll get that in a second. You took it helicopter,
Speaker 4: James Franklin. Let me get the guy, get the helicopter.
Speaker 4: It's my guy. It was his helicopter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's my boy.
Speaker 4: I love the death helicopter boom land on Vanderbilt football field.
Speaker 2: The old A D David Williams, rest in peace on
Speaker 2: my good Brothers.
Speaker 4: He actually just passed away the old ad mesas on
Speaker 4: the football field. It takes pictures of us and then
Speaker 4: he says, hey, I'm gonna drive you to the restaurant.
Speaker 4: You guys are going to We hop in his car.
Speaker 4: He's like, it's like the coolest uber black of all time.
Speaker 4: Like it's the ad of the school driving you to
Speaker 4: to to the restaurant. Or the restaurant's the pub. We
Speaker 4: walked to a pub. I got the whole thing rented out,
Speaker 4: and got the booth that we used to sit at,
Speaker 4: white tablecloth everything.
Speaker 1: I got the case of Dias, the hot wings, and.
Speaker 2: Then I proposed to it right there.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, shoot, dude, that's a solid story story, sir killing
Speaker 3: it Will's writing notes down right now.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here like gift on the way home.
Speaker 3: Bro, you got a gift car.
Speaker 2: But I tell people that, you know, right exactly it worked.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I tell people that though, and I say,
Speaker 4: like in the same breath through, like don't hear that
Speaker 4: story and think, Okay, here's this great No, it's because
Speaker 4: of the stuff that my dad instilled in me. It's
Speaker 4: because I got to see what he did with the
Speaker 4: small things. Now I've got these amazing resources and amazing relationships.
Speaker 4: I'm doing the same thing that he's doing on just
Speaker 4: what some people will call like a quote unquote larger scale.
Speaker 4: But it's the same thing in the same spirit. So yeah, man,
Speaker 4: just got I got a really blessed life. Got ten
Speaker 4: ten month old son named Josiah, great, great, great little kids,
Speaker 4: super super good child, done cry a lot man, easy
Speaker 4: on mom and dad, and we got a good support
Speaker 4: system my parents.
Speaker 2: Her parents are actually both married thirty one years. They
Speaker 2: got married in the same year, same year, bro, exactly. Man.
Speaker 1: So, like I said, I'm blessed. Man, I got nothing
Speaker 1: to complain about. Man, that's out. You gotta put together, man,
Speaker 1: that's alway do we go from here.
Speaker 3: The guy's perfect. No, that's not he was our next guy.
Speaker 1: You were mentioning it outside the bus twenty seven. You're
Speaker 1: getting older, you're you know, you know, as football players
Speaker 1: you talk about like you know your back nine right,
Speaker 1: What would you like to do after football? You know,
Speaker 1: I would say, Man, there's a couple of things I
Speaker 1: really do love.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: You know, obviously family is big for me, but man,
Speaker 4: I love Vanderbilt Love. I love the school.
Speaker 1: I love this day mister Vanderbilt. Huh, not to the
Speaker 1: public guy, but he you you internally you love.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, in turn, because you got David Price is
Speaker 4: stiff competition, you know. J Cutler, like Jake, j is
Speaker 4: smooth man. A black of people think he's like an
Speaker 4: a hole, that dude. If I ever called Jay and
Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, I need you for a charity event,
Speaker 4: He's like, I'm there. He's played in my basketball playing
Speaker 4: in the back.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know Jake me to get on bus
Speaker 1: with the boys.
Speaker 4: He would do it, I think he would. He won't
Speaker 4: probably talk as much as I do, but he'd be here.
Speaker 2: He's a great dude, don't.
Speaker 3: Zach man Burger is yes, so Zach Zach Benberger's birthday
Speaker 3: is today as well. Really yeah, he just turned twenty eight.
Speaker 2: He's the king of Nashville too.
Speaker 3: He was a Key's the king of bat Rouge for sure,
Speaker 3: Slad bat Rouge. When he was an l s U dude,
Speaker 3: it was him, Jarvis O, Jeremy Hill, Jeremy Hill.
Speaker 2: They had honorary Bro. He's bro. He's undefeated and bro.
Speaker 2: He's it really is. He's got a crazy record that
Speaker 2: he used to do.
Speaker 3: We used to get after a ten roof and losers.
Speaker 3: But he's He's an unbelievable dude. I totally forgot what
Speaker 3: I was gonna but oh yeah. He he loved color
Speaker 3: like that was one of his favorite dudes. He loved
Speaker 3: the stoic, don't give a ship attitude.
Speaker 1: Like a cigaret.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh dude, it's so funny.
Speaker 2: Yah.
Speaker 3: There was a he was putting the Dolphins. It was
Speaker 3: like his last year, I guess I uh yeah. Tannehill,
Speaker 3: who was with the Titans now towards a c L
Speaker 3: and uh, he came they brought him on. He was retired,
Speaker 3: they came out. He gave it a retirement and he
Speaker 3: had a player where he landed up in the slought
Speaker 3: or something like that, and they told him not to move,
Speaker 3: and he literally didn't move the entire play.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was he couldn't wait, like he cannot wait
Speaker 4: for that opportunity to do nothing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's like his like his deal. He's this
Speaker 3: is his thing. Like, Yeah, the guys seems like he
Speaker 3: doesn't give a ship, but he gives so many ship.
Speaker 2: People are so interested in them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like they can't break past that barrier
Speaker 1: he has.
Speaker 3: We'll break it exactly, well, you guys that you guys
Speaker 3: will knock down to it was like the Berlin Wall, Dude,
Speaker 3: We'll take that thing down.
Speaker 1: Dude. You're experiencing the the the character of this bus.
Speaker 1: There's a train that goes by any time we're doing
Speaker 1: an episode. This is like the second one going on
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 3: This is you were in the middle of saying something.
Speaker 3: But I usually have a big thing about for those
Speaker 3: of you listening. If you hear a train outside, that's
Speaker 3: because we're by trains. That's how That's how it works,
Speaker 3: right it is the ac is on. I'm still sweating,
Speaker 3: but it's extremely hot here, but imagic. The is he
Speaker 3: wasn't on adversity. That's what we do on the bus.
Speaker 1: You know, you got to overcome it, got to overcome
Speaker 1: me adversity.
Speaker 3: But you're here, calm, cool, collect man. You're always keeping
Speaker 3: a chill.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 4: It's like I said, man, I got nothing to complain about.
Speaker 4: But like, you know, back to the point about the
Speaker 4: whole vanding thing. I love vanderbl football and not and
Speaker 4: just like you have a passion for health, wellness and recovery,
Speaker 4: Like I want people to feel good. And so you know,
Speaker 4: I come from a school where essentially you have to
Speaker 4: compete against the best and the brightest in the classroom
Speaker 4: and you have to compete in the SEC. So our
Speaker 4: kids at Vanderbilt have a unique challenge ahead of them,
Speaker 4: especially the athletes. It's like, dude, these guys, like if
Speaker 4: you go when I was playing there, we have less
Speaker 4: people on the football team because how many kids can
Speaker 4: go to Vanderbilt and walk onto a football team. Like
Speaker 4: think about it. You would get athletic kids that go
Speaker 4: to Alabama that can walk on and blend right in.
Speaker 4: So Alabama their football team is working with about one
Speaker 4: hundred and twenty seven people.
Speaker 2: My boys.
Speaker 4: A coach of Oregon, he went to an Alabama practice
Speaker 4: he said they had about thirteen or I think we're
Speaker 4: like thirteen to twenty receivers. So like, these guys are
Speaker 4: not taking a ton of pounding. We've got about ten.
Speaker 4: And so now you've got these guys taking a ton
Speaker 4: of reps and they've got to go to school and
Speaker 4: do a ton of papers and have class work, you know,
Speaker 4: out the wazoo. And so I'm like, man, I want
Speaker 4: to be that guy that could come in and kind
Speaker 4: of force issue to say, Okay, how are we doing.
Speaker 4: Like everybody talks about facilities, and I get it. Everybody
Speaker 4: talks about the esthetics advantage, but we need bigger facility.
Speaker 4: You went to Michigan, you guys have a two story
Speaker 4: weight room with a flash screen TV. If we try
Speaker 4: and compare with these exactly, if you guys, if we
Speaker 4: try to compee with you guys, we're going.
Speaker 1: To be on the rat race Nebraska.
Speaker 3: So Dobson, we talk about to Dobson all the time
Speaker 3: about this kind of stuff. Like the way your guys'
Speaker 3: class says was when I went to the University of Michigan,
Speaker 3: when you had to set up classes, I'd walk into
Speaker 3: a room and they'd be like, Hey, your classes is up.
Speaker 3: Just click here, yeah, click here, Okay, can see letter
Speaker 3: and you get to pre register like two weeks before.
Speaker 3: So sure you've sure got your classes. I never I
Speaker 3: never had to worry about setting an alarm and being like, hey,
Speaker 3: you gotta get this class. And then I made it,
Speaker 3: you know, or you didn't make it. And it's crazy that,
Speaker 3: like you guys got to go in work out six
Speaker 3: fifteen s forty five. Everyone's got to be done by
Speaker 3: like nine o'clock. They had classes and then and you're
Speaker 3: in arguably, very arguably the most competitive conference in the
Speaker 3: whole country is in the ten.
Speaker 1: I give up there.
Speaker 3: You got Alabama, you got Georgia, you got Florida, LSU,
Speaker 3: Auburn's got every three years, you know, Arkansas is there.
Speaker 3: And then so you got like schools that are incredible.
Speaker 3: And everyone says all the time, oh, these guys cheat
Speaker 3: or whatever. I don't know if that's true or not,
Speaker 3: but I know being at Vanderbilt, like you guys, you
Speaker 3: guys can't even move the needle for like, you know,
Speaker 3: the sliding scale, like their act numbers have to match
Speaker 3: and their GPS.
Speaker 4: It's just to get in that school, yes, And so
Speaker 4: that's what I'm saying like, if we're not going to
Speaker 4: if we can't waiver in some of those ethics, now
Speaker 4: say we got to get then we got to look
Speaker 4: at certain areas, like nutritionally, there's enough information about nutrition
Speaker 4: out they're in education.
Speaker 2: That we should be able to have.
Speaker 4: I feel like the Vanderbilt nutrition should be the best
Speaker 4: in the city of Nashville.
Speaker 2: Like the kitchen for these kids in the city of Nashville.
Speaker 4: I think our kitchen for our athletes should be the
Speaker 4: greatest because we know eating healthy and increases your ability
Speaker 4: to get stuff done in the classroom, It lowers the
Speaker 4: chance of injury, performance goes up everything. So it's like
Speaker 4: these are areas like instead of worrying about things that
Speaker 4: look good, let's worry about things that matter. Because I
Speaker 4: feel like most of the kids that come to Vanderbilt,
Speaker 4: you're really recruiting the parents like Alabama exactly, they're looking
Speaker 4: for quality. Like Vanderbilt recruited my parents. My mom was
Speaker 4: not going to let me go anywhere else once Vanderbilt called.
Speaker 2: Because they appealed to her.
Speaker 1: This is the school.
Speaker 4: You can get a great education, you'll have great connects,
Speaker 4: and you're going to play against the best in the
Speaker 4: brightce all right, done so, And I still come back
Speaker 4: and speak to recruits, and what happens is I end
Speaker 4: up answering more questions for the parents than the actual kids.
Speaker 4: If you're Alabama, you can walkup to a kid and say,
Speaker 4: you grew up in Alabama.
Speaker 2: Do you want to be the right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: All right, it's pretty easy.
Speaker 3: Oh that you can be anywhere with Florida, Texas, Arizona, California.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anywhere?
Speaker 1: Was that SEC schools?
Speaker 2: Eh, exactly.
Speaker 1: I've heard that. I've heard rumors they pay well, I
Speaker 1: heard them.
Speaker 3: I've heard that, dude, I heard that a bunch of stories.
Speaker 2: It's just right.
Speaker 1: I heard the rumor is there's like a fee. There's
Speaker 1: like twenty thirty forty fifty thousand dollars they can pay
Speaker 1: a recruit. If so, say you're say you're Alabama, can
Speaker 1: you want to give a recruit fifty thousand dollars a
Speaker 1: school outside of the state of Alabama. The gentleman's handshake
Speaker 1: is like Georgia can't come in and pay a dollar
Speaker 1: over fifty thousand, Like they can't. They can't outdo each other.
Speaker 1: If that, if that talent is in the state, so
Speaker 1: the kid grew up in Alabama. Only Alabama can set
Speaker 1: the bar. And these coaches are shoving them money or
Speaker 1: shoving whatever.
Speaker 2: That's crazy and that's.
Speaker 1: How they they all have like a gentleman's agreement on it.
Speaker 3: That pisses me off. Dude, I didn't get it.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's all. That's all, that's all a reach,
Speaker 1: that's all. You know, it's stuff I've birds sounded solid
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 3: Who's the quarterback from Georgia that went to Detroit, Matt Stafford.
Speaker 3: I feel like they said, this is all word of mouth,
Speaker 3: this is not even a factual. Yeah right, yeah, the
Speaker 3: word the word I heard was like he had like
Speaker 3: five hundred thousand dollars sitting in his uh his mailbox
Speaker 3: outside of his house if if he was gonna stay,
Speaker 3: if he stayed, he get kept it. But then he
Speaker 3: had to be like the number one overall pick. He's like,
Speaker 3: yeah's way more money. It's just crazy, dude. It's crazy
Speaker 3: people do anything that their teams win all that stuff
Speaker 3: to have it at old miss, Like how do you
Speaker 3: get the number one receive of the number one tackle?
Speaker 3: The number one blah blah blah, like neverber one defensive
Speaker 3: end to Old Miss.
Speaker 1: Apparently that was stuff with the word. They went over
Speaker 1: that a little bit and those other schools like there
Speaker 1: were people way behind the scenes.
Speaker 2: They got and they got Laquantra Will and.
Speaker 3: They got Larry tunseel To. I Thinkry is from like
Speaker 3: Chicago or something like.
Speaker 1: That, and like so I think there's like a high
Speaker 1: four five star that Vanderbilt got over the last sh
Speaker 1: I think he was a BACKERDPS and Coach Topson was
Speaker 1: telling me about it. I asked that question, like, how
Speaker 1: do you get somebody like that over Bamas, the Bamas
Speaker 1: of the world, the SEC schools that come in. He
Speaker 1: was offered by everybody, and he was like, well, he
Speaker 1: comes from a Nigerian family, so when his parents come,
Speaker 1: like you recruit the family, you recruit the parents, but
Speaker 1: the parents from that kind of culture background, they and
Speaker 1: they strictly want education. Like that's where Vandy will win.
Speaker 1: So when you go when you talk about the whole
Speaker 1: quality over the what the picture looks like, You're never
Speaker 1: going to really be or have all these facilities that
Speaker 1: these other schools are going to have because Vanderbilt is
Speaker 1: so you know, it's hard to get into. Man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, they can't throw loopholes in there like the
Speaker 1: other teams can, like, hey, we can get your kid
Speaker 1: in school. Like, no, the academics do not. It's not
Speaker 1: the same level of they don't perceive it the same.
Speaker 1: The academic side doesn't look at the football site and say, hey,
Speaker 1: we're going to do everything we can help you. They're like, no,
Speaker 1: we have a standard. These full players are recruit they
Speaker 1: better meet the standard. They're not getting in well.
Speaker 4: And I think Vanderbilt is the most representative of real
Speaker 4: life is too. Like when I went to Vanderbilt and
Speaker 4: I got on campus, nobody cared about who I was. Okay,
Speaker 4: when you go into the real world, nobody's gonna care
Speaker 4: about who you are. You got to go work your
Speaker 4: butt off, okay. And then even my senior year, like
Speaker 4: when people knew me, they still were like, Okay, what
Speaker 4: are you going to do next? You know, it wasn't
Speaker 4: like I had friends that went to Alabama the first
Speaker 4: day on campus fifty thousand Twitter followers and all a's
Speaker 4: and all your classes, Like, real life's not like that, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, And so Vannerbil taught me a ton of that,
Speaker 4: you know. And I think but like I said, I
Speaker 4: really think the biggest thing is, you know, when you're
Speaker 4: recruiting these kids, especially in their when like I said,
Speaker 4: when we're recruiting their parents, I'm always saying, like we
Speaker 4: need to focus on the things that these kids can
Speaker 4: take with them, Like if you have a kid, facilitate
Speaker 4: a healthy lifestyle and understand recovery, understand his body, and
Speaker 4: then send them off with a good education, he can
Speaker 4: actually use that.
Speaker 2: You go to these schools and they're trying to sell
Speaker 2: you on a jersey.
Speaker 4: In the stadium, you can't take that with you, you know,
Speaker 4: or what's that jersey going to mean to you once
Speaker 4: you leave?
Speaker 3: You You can always play on the fact that these
Speaker 3: kids want to go to the NFL exactly. And and
Speaker 3: if you if you have a hard enough push, Hey
Speaker 3: you got the height, you got to this, you got to that,
Speaker 3: blah blah blah, you got the speed. But you can
Speaker 3: you can get kids to buy into that stuff meet
Speaker 3: Like like for me, I never had a I never
Speaker 3: had a plan B of like anything. When I got
Speaker 3: offered by Utah State going into my senior year, I
Speaker 3: was like, uh, like my coach on my assim, some
Speaker 3: guy Utah State guy like I transferred schools to play
Speaker 3: offensive line, and so I didn't have any offers my
Speaker 3: junior Usually you have your your office, you pretty much
Speaker 3: have like your you committed by your junior year. So
Speaker 3: I'm going into my senior year with zero offers and
Speaker 3: this Utah State guy comes up to me and say, hey, man,
Speaker 3: we'd be lucky to have you blah blah blah, like
Speaker 3: kind of like super casual, and he walked away and
Speaker 3: I kind was going to buy my business. My the
Speaker 3: head coach is like, hey, you're they offered you and
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm going to the NFL. And They're like,
Speaker 3: well no. I was like, no, no, no, I'm going to.
Speaker 1: The NFL's I'm believable, Utah State, Utah.
Speaker 3: State, the acts. But I say that because like, dude,
Speaker 3: you could like for me. That was my my thought.
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, I'm going to the NFL. That's insane,
Speaker 3: and like I now, it doesn't matter where I go,
Speaker 3: doesn't matter what I do. I walked in to school
Speaker 3: and I was like like, what do you want to
Speaker 3: do after college? And I was like, well, I'm going
Speaker 3: to the NFL. So it was myt like well, you know,
Speaker 3: just I'm general studies. I'm doing general studies and I
Speaker 3: was a two point But looking back in it, looking
Speaker 3: back in that whole thing was, Uh, if I could
Speaker 3: have done more in college, I would have. I would have.
Speaker 1: I would say, well, what we got going on here
Speaker 1: is that you dude, you disrespecting the bus right now?
Speaker 2: No, I wasn't respecting the bus now I was. I
Speaker 2: don't even know why that alarm is on. I have
Speaker 2: no idea why.
Speaker 3: I don't know why that alarm was on, but I
Speaker 3: gotta go. Nah, I'm here, Yeah, but I got to
Speaker 3: get out of here. I know we're wrapping it up
Speaker 3: in a little bit. Anyway, It's all good. But like, uh,
Speaker 3: I definitely think when you're seventeen years old, like you had,
Speaker 3: you have a great head and shot, you had a
Speaker 3: great home life. That is, you're super blessed to have
Speaker 3: all that stuff. But a lot of kids don't have that.
Speaker 3: A lot of football is their way out and everything.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: But I think also, I will say this though, the
Speaker 4: tides shifting a little bit because kids have more access
Speaker 4: to things they didn't know about before.
Speaker 2: Social media is changing a ton of.
Speaker 4: Stuff, Like kids are like really on their phones, like
Speaker 4: trying to figure out how to start like a business
Speaker 4: right now, to gain notoriety into game thing.
Speaker 2: Well, we're growing up.
Speaker 4: The only things we saw were TV actors and athletes
Speaker 4: and rock stars. So I think we were more inclined
Speaker 4: to think, if we're in corporate America, that's boring, and
Speaker 4: if we go to the pros or entertainment, that's fun.
Speaker 3: You know, you never thought once about like I'm going
Speaker 3: to have a you know, inser or a YouTube channel
Speaker 3: or any of this. Like you just kind of were like,
Speaker 3: what do you want to be a own a baseball player?
Speaker 4: And that was it exactly. And so I think there's
Speaker 4: more information out there. And I'm telling you, like being
Speaker 4: in being in Santa Clara has showed me why because
Speaker 4: think about Stanford exactly. Stanford's extremely successful on the West
Speaker 4: Coast right right. And the reason why is because education
Speaker 4: is actually like really uplifted in the West Coast like that,
Speaker 4: like being around tech and starting your own.
Speaker 2: Business deal that's a huge deal.
Speaker 4: So when kids get a scholarship from Stanford, that's like
Speaker 4: the golden ticket. Okay, now I can do both. I
Speaker 4: can start my podcast, I can start my business and
Speaker 4: shout out, and I can also go to the play
Speaker 4: against USC Organ. Well, we're still making that ground in
Speaker 4: Vanderbilt because I still feel like you're still recruiting AAST,
Speaker 4: like I said, Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, do whatever. But
Speaker 4: at the same time, I think that that tide is
Speaker 4: going to start to shift, and I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 4: I think Vanderbilt's got to do our best to be
Speaker 4: as ahead of that it's possible, and I think we
Speaker 4: are doing that. But like I said, man, I feel
Speaker 4: like if we major in the things that truly matter,
Speaker 4: and it's going to be the things that matter to
Speaker 4: the parents when they come on campus, and the kids
Speaker 4: that will actually be able to come to Vanderbilt and
Speaker 4: actually like, really like the culture.
Speaker 2: And engage into it, I think we'll be just fine.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: I think I think education you're in NFL locker rooms,
Speaker 4: guys are talking about money now.
Speaker 3: Guys outside a Definitely, the guys take a lot of
Speaker 3: pride in the businesses that they're in, exactly what they're
Speaker 3: investing in, stuff like that, and I think there's I mean,
Speaker 3: there's a double edged sword when it comes to social
Speaker 3: media because you have these kids that they'll just go
Speaker 3: on the latest trends, like kind of like you know,
Speaker 3: like growing up watching Jackass or Cky, like you'd watch
Speaker 3: us and maybe be like, please do not reperform these
Speaker 3: stunts all and be like I'm gonna do it anyway.
Speaker 3: This stuff like, well, now it's like you got these
Speaker 3: crazy kids out there doing like the next cool thing.
Speaker 3: First was the dab, then was this and that, and
Speaker 3: everyone's trying to repeat everything. Twelve year old white kids
Speaker 3: ruin everything, like they ruin every dance, but they butchered
Speaker 3: the whole thing they do that that this thing right here, yeah, aame,
Speaker 3: that's where you look.
Speaker 1: These little white kids are in stands doing the Fortnite dances.
Speaker 3: I think the thing. The coolest thing though, like like
Speaker 3: growing up in the nineties or the early two thousands
Speaker 3: compared to now, is you do have that outlet to say,
Speaker 3: like I could really be whatever I want and no
Speaker 3: one's gonna go, well, sell insurance. No one wants to.
Speaker 3: No one wants to sell insurance. And somebody's listening. Who
Speaker 3: sells insurance? You don't want to, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Like you everybody has a dream and at some point
Speaker 3: they were told that, well it's not realistic. You can't
Speaker 3: be an artist because well, artists only really make money
Speaker 3: when they're dead, you know what I'm saying. Then they
Speaker 3: all of a sudden get famous, start sells like it
Speaker 3: gives you opportunity, like you can display that and all
Speaker 3: it takes is one person to click retweet and then
Speaker 3: one of those people say, holies, that's actually pretty fun
Speaker 3: cool and may click retweet on that, and then you
Speaker 3: get dudes like you know, with millions of followers retweet
Speaker 3: that thing, and that that's easily blown up, and all
Speaker 3: of a sudden you have a business without.
Speaker 2: Even trying exactly it's it's it's huge.
Speaker 3: It opens it opens up a lot of gateways. I
Speaker 3: just really hope people use it as an opportunity instead
Speaker 3: of just an opportunity be like five minutes famous, Like,
Speaker 3: use it as an opportunity.
Speaker 2: To really span and grow, to.
Speaker 3: Create, expand grow and use it not to just look
Speaker 3: at girls hooking using their their bikinis on and top
Speaker 3: like that. Don't look at it, like, look at stuff
Speaker 3: that's getting expand your horizon of what do I like?
Speaker 3: What do I not like? Those those are the types
Speaker 3: of things that are really going to make like this
Speaker 3: generation that these millennials or whatever the hell we are, like,
Speaker 3: it's going to make us like take us into the
Speaker 3: atmosphere of you know, being your own person and being
Speaker 3: able to be a unique individual. That's that's that's something
Speaker 3: that starts to being that started to be celebrated as
Speaker 3: being unique, when before it was like, hey, just fall
Speaker 3: in line, right, you know, you be your suppressed. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you be at recess as a five year old, like
Speaker 3: going to pe or fitness whatever you called it, and
Speaker 3: you call the hair star. You have to stay at
Speaker 3: the next person's hair and march to the next place
Speaker 3: you're going. And now like people are more free express That's.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying, bro, And think about that, like like
Speaker 4: everything you're saying, Like, when you're trying to do that
Speaker 4: and tap into something, you gotta go into a place
Speaker 4: where there's a ton of resources. Look how many resources
Speaker 4: are in Nashville. There's a ton. It's a large, large
Speaker 4: community here. I mean, look, you go a Tuscaloosa. If
Speaker 4: you don't get out balling, what you're gonna.
Speaker 3: Do in Tuscalusa?
Speaker 2: Nothing?
Speaker 4: And also exactly and then even hearing you say this,
Speaker 4: you have a son or daughter, daughter, you have a
Speaker 4: two year old daughter.
Speaker 2: So let's say you have a son and later on,
Speaker 2: like there's.
Speaker 4: Stuff that you know about posts that you're gonna know
Speaker 4: about post football, that if somebody came to you from
Speaker 4: a school like Vanderbilt and says that, like, bro, you
Speaker 4: know the truth, your son's probably gonna have the ability to.
Speaker 2: Go out and be just as good as all these kids.
Speaker 4: These are schools, but he's gonna want that extra thing
Speaker 4: in his hand that's gonna help him post. We just
Speaker 4: got Kenyon Martin's son on the basketball team, and we
Speaker 4: got Scottie Pippen. I guarantee they got recruited because they
Speaker 4: both have dads that play in the pros that know
Speaker 4: there's more to basketball.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Crazy thing that you mentioned that and I really haven't
Speaker 3: thought about that until you just mentioned it is I
Speaker 3: never even thought about my kids playing sports. I just
Speaker 3: felt like, like, whatever they want to do, I got
Speaker 3: to figure out a way to connect with them in
Speaker 3: that way. Like that's that's that's my fear is, Like
Speaker 3: you know, if my kid is you know, wants to
Speaker 3: be an artist, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't have an.
Speaker 3: Artistic bone in my pocket as far as like painting.
Speaker 3: I can't paint shit. My brother can paint, but like
Speaker 3: to be able to how do I go and how
Speaker 3: do I like have a relationship with him in that way?
Speaker 3: Because the only thing I'm used I've been playing sports
Speaker 3: since I was five years old, probably earlier than that,
Speaker 3: but like what I remember, you know what I'm saying, organized,
Speaker 3: And so it's like, how do you go? Like you said,
Speaker 3: you mean you might be on the background, I had
Speaker 3: about ten or fifteen years left in me, but I'm saying,
Speaker 3: like love when I am done, Like that's all I'm
Speaker 3: going to know is sports, right, And so I'm I'm
Speaker 3: trying to diversify myself now, doing new things, trying new
Speaker 3: stuff just to see if I like it. So when
Speaker 3: my kids are an old enough age, any kind of
Speaker 3: route they go, I know that I don't need to
Speaker 3: be overbearing, but I can at least figure out, like
Speaker 3: how do I relate to them in whatever way?
Speaker 4: And I think the thing too, though, that you speak
Speaker 4: to me and like you have obviously like the fact
Speaker 4: you have great work ethic, you're disciplined, and that you
Speaker 4: try new things. Those are characteristics that even if I said, Okay,
Speaker 4: I want to be an artist.
Speaker 2: If I work hard.
Speaker 4: I'm dedicating, I like to try new things, I'm going
Speaker 4: to be successful if I want to be a doctor,
Speaker 4: and I take that same approach. So I think one
Speaker 4: thing you definitely don't got to be nervous about is
Speaker 4: the principles and.
Speaker 2: The characters already there.
Speaker 4: So even if your child were to do something that
Speaker 4: you don't completely understand, I think those building blocks in
Speaker 4: that foundation, it's going to help them still be successful.
Speaker 2: Because, yeah, I worry about the same thing.
Speaker 4: Man, Like my wife's professional athlete, you know, so we
Speaker 4: have the son. Everybody's like, he's definitely going to.
Speaker 3: Be when you said I was a pro athlete.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, that's what That's what everybody thinks exactly. And
Speaker 4: I would even say, personally, I'm inclined to be like, oh,
Speaker 4: he's definitely probably play sports two.
Speaker 2: But he has his little piano. He loves playing that piano.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 2: But but if.
Speaker 4: He wanted to do that, and like I said, I
Speaker 4: stopped playing piano when I was like twelve, there's like
Speaker 4: really nothing I can really give him that I would
Speaker 4: still say, Man, you know what, though, one thing I
Speaker 4: would say, there's a couple of things I definitely live
Speaker 4: by relationships. I believe the relationships more than anything more matter.
Speaker 4: If you're going to try and be successful, I believe
Speaker 4: you got to do more than what's required. Like, if
Speaker 4: you only do what's required, you're never going to be great.
Speaker 4: You know, if if Vanderbilt in Alabama work out an
Speaker 4: hour thirty minutes a day, we're gonna lose every single time.
Speaker 4: So you got to put in more time if you're
Speaker 4: gonna catch you hate Alabama, Yeah, yeah, I'm from there.
Speaker 4: You know, didn't get a letter, so it's all good.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep jabby. But yeah, so obviously do that.
Speaker 4: And then obviously I've always told people man like like
Speaker 4: like nobody cares, Like I'm gonna tell my son. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna tell my son when he gets older. Like if
Speaker 4: you want to have a pity party, understand this. Eighty
Speaker 4: percent of people don't care about your problems, and twenty
Speaker 4: percent are.
Speaker 2: Glad you have them, so you be better off.
Speaker 4: Like, whenever you're going through something, just to go ahead
Speaker 4: internalize it. You know, if you need, if you need
Speaker 4: to shed some tears, shed your tears, you need to
Speaker 4: get back to work. And so like those principles have
Speaker 4: nothing to do with strictly football, absolutely.
Speaker 2: Because so that those people are losing sleep exactly.
Speaker 1: You're you're the one going to ben thinking about what
Speaker 1: everybody's saying about you. They're saying whatever, and really they
Speaker 1: don't even care as much as you think that no
Speaker 1: one gives a about it, and they're they're sleeping just fine.
Speaker 1: So you're a slave in your own mind thinking that
Speaker 1: people care about you that kind of you know, that
Speaker 1: kind of magnifying glass exactly.
Speaker 4: So, so I'm like, yeah, you want to go do
Speaker 4: real estate. Take those same principles right, not caring about
Speaker 4: what people think, you know, caring about like as far
Speaker 4: as the relationships your own personal ones and your family, uh,
Speaker 4: communities that you actually stay in, and then also doing
Speaker 4: more than what's required, like do some overtime, be the
Speaker 4: first one in the building, don't be afraid to work
Speaker 4: hard and see how great you can be, and then
Speaker 4: let the chips fall where they may.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Vanderbilt needs to do something with you. Dude, you're
Speaker 1: like a You're like a walking billboard for those boys.
Speaker 1: Do all of a job. What do you want you
Speaker 1: want to be? You want to be an a d h.
Speaker 1: You were talking about one of maybe be an a D.
Speaker 2: You know, we'll see.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: I really I've got a lot of respect and love
Speaker 4: for Michael Turner, the new AD that just got hired.
Speaker 4: People know that had a really great, really good relationship
Speaker 4: with David Williams, the old a D. And so, you know,
Speaker 4: I kind of want to see from top. Malcolm's been
Speaker 4: nice enough to let me come and speak to him
Speaker 4: on a couple of occasions. He's gonna give me an
Speaker 4: opportunity next offseason to kind of just walk around and
Speaker 4: let him see, let me see from the top, like
Speaker 4: what sports administration looks like for him and for that
Speaker 4: type of career and stuff. What does it take, What
Speaker 4: kind of degree do you need to get? I have
Speaker 4: to go back to school.
Speaker 2: I just kind of want to just learn from that space.
Speaker 4: And then more so I think after that, just kind
Speaker 4: of figure out where I kind of fit in and
Speaker 4: I kind of want to go about my next career.
Speaker 4: By know, I wanted to be a Vanderbilt and I
Speaker 4: know I want to be in direct conjunction with the
Speaker 4: football team, like I love I love Vanderbilt football, and
Speaker 4: it's a really complex thing trying to be successful with them.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, man, that's kind of exactly what I
Speaker 4: want to do. My wife loves the city in Nashville.
Speaker 4: My in laws live in Georgia. Sty're like three hours
Speaker 4: from us, and my parents are from Hunsble with Alabama's
Speaker 4: they're like an hour thirty. So it's a perfect central
Speaker 4: location for us to spend time with family. So man, like,
Speaker 4: this is home. Man, we love it, love it to death.
Speaker 1: This podcast is going to be a resume for him,
Speaker 1: Oh easily. We're going to push this stuff to him.
Speaker 1: We're going to give you the content. We're gonna we're
Speaker 1: gonna make everybody aware. I would be just happy with
Speaker 1: a shirt, but I'll take it. Well, you got a
Speaker 1: shirt and it's your birthday, So happy birthday. Thanks for
Speaker 1: dreaking coming on, man, I know you got to get
Speaker 1: rolling somewhere. That's why that alarm went off at No
Speaker 1: even told me, you know, two o'clock. You had to
Speaker 1: be somewhere.
Speaker 4: So actually know when we originally set the call, I
Speaker 4: think it was gonna be at three. That two o'clock
Speaker 4: one wants to be like, hey, like wake up or
Speaker 4: you go whatever you got something to do in an hour?
Speaker 2: Like, so whatever you're doing.
Speaker 3: Stop organized like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but but then you won't believe it because I
Speaker 2: was I was a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah you dude, No thanks for coming on, man,