WEBVTT - Jordan Matthews 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:05.240 The Boys. What's up, pups, Wolves, Everybody tuning in for 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:07.160 another episode of Busting with the Boys. That's your boy, 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:11.559 Will Compton and Tarry Lawan. Taylor's not here right now. 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:14.280 I'm out in Oakland, California. I do the weekly intros. 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:17.040 Cats out the bag. I do the weekly intros every week. 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:19.799 Yeah boy, update, boy got signed by the Black and 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:22.600 Silver Oakland Raiders. Big win yesterday. Shout out to the boys. 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:24.439 Man fucking it was awesome to be a part of. 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:28.760 I'm out here in this grimy extended day right now. 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:31.520 I'm just sitting here. Literally, I'm in my socks, in 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:36.560 my underwear, just sitting lonely in this extended stay hotel. 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:39.239 Love being out here. Number one, but number two, this 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:43.559 hotel holy shit smells like cigarettes. Like it's just I mean, 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:46.320 you smell weed everywhere. You smell cigarettes. You saw. I 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:48.599 fucking saw a rat big enough. I named him Splinter. 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:51.800 It's uh, it's a it's a time out here in 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:54.680 this extended stay. But a couple of quick couple reminders, 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:58.360 a couple updates. Number one, number fucking one, And I'm 0:00:58.360 --> 0:00:59.880 sorry to curse, but I gotta curse because I got 0:00:59.920 --> 0:01:01.880 a put emphasis on that. I need your guys' attention, 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:07.200 specially Titans fans, especially the boys out the two Tone 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:09.680 Blue that were for the two Tone Blue. But really 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:13.840 everybody knew. These episodes are recorded ahead of time. These 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:16.240 episodes were recorded ahead of time. And I just say 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:18.600 the two Tone Blue. I just say Titans fans because 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:21.880 people chirping like, hey, tell your boy, we're not even 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:24.840 gonna go there. Take that far, wafted, wafted in their faces, 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:27.000 wafted in people's faces, like we're not going there. These 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:30.040 episodes are recorded ahead of time. Most of them were 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:34.000 recorded in the summer, some in August, some where I'm 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:37.360 doing one on ones, But these episodes are recorded ahead 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:41.440 of time. With that being said, just know that we 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:44.440 aren't podcasting in season. Yes I do the intros, but 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:46.360 they're just you know, a few minutes. Sometimes they are 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:47.120 able a little too long. 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:47.480 Whatever. 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:51.559 Don't give a shout out to our sponsors. Number one 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:56.600 Regal Realty Group, Hunter Briley, MVP of Nashville. Everything from 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:59.760 commercial to residential to investment. The dude throws are tailgates. 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:02.320 He's he just got the bus. So guys, the bus 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:05.360 is toed. So if when keep updated with us on 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:08.240 at bus and WTB on our social medias, but we 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:10.400 might I think we are having a tailgate this week. 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:12.839 I'm gonna have to actually get with Hunter. But stay 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:15.079 up today with us on our social media's, but our 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:16.840 tailgates from here on now, you won't see the bus. 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:19.040 The bus is in the shop. 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They taste good. 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:50.680 Huge fan of the bone and V's with the little 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:52.960 Mermaid on the can. I prefer the Mermaid on the can. 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:55.960 It just to me that that makes you even harder, dude. 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:58.640 But anyway, post your pictures hashtag don't give us so 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:00.120 we can show you. We can put you in our 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:03.000 YouTube channel, on our on our Busting with the Boys 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:05.240 show on YouTube. We can show your stuff there, we 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:07.920 can retweet you, we can share on story all that 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:11.400 fun stuff. Speaking of YouTube channel, go to our YouTube channel, 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:15.080 Busting with the Boys. We're trying to build that thing up. Subscribe, comment, 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:18.920 do all the good fun stuff. And yeah, I'm keeping 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:20.520 this short. We're getting into the intro. 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:23.599 You might be hearing this little voice right here. You're thinking, 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:26.520 I know that voice. That's my father. You're right, it's 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:29.800 your dad. Hi, Dad of Nashville. There's about two million 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:31.520 of you guys now, and I gotta be honest, I 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:36.480 am exhausted from all that work given birth or helping 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.960 give birth. I guess today we have a very special guests, 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.760 a guy who is just loved in the city of Nashville. 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:45.039 An amazing guy, amazing person, got the work ethic of 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:48.240 a Clydesdale dude, gets after in every single way. Played 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:50.640 in a couple of teams, same draft class as each other. 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:52.760 Jordan Matthews, rev aplaus with the boy. Right now, there 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:57.520 is birthday. 0:04:57.960 --> 0:04:59.960 We might have to get some you know, some spanking. 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:03.120 WHOA All right. 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:08.440 And the podcast is over. Here's the deal. Say we 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:09.839 got one more puppy right here. Look at that. This 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:10.640 is one of my babies. 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:12.279 We brought one of the wolves on the bus. 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:14.600 That's Haggard. All right, come on up, go up, Haggard, 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:17.480 or do what you want. Buddy. He's uh, he's trained, 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:21.400 but he's not acting. Hey, cuche, but. 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:25.040 Anyway, cuche, cuche. We have Jordan Matthews. We're gonna talk 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:27.000 all things where you know, we're obviously gonna do the 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:29.800 whole bit. We're gonna have fun. We're gonna talk about 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:33.000 my man's story. We're gonna talk about what he enjoys most, 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:35.400 some of his adversity he's been through over the last 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:37.320 couple of years because he was a baller back in Philly, 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:41.440 back with back with Philly, being a baller. But somebody 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:45.480 that I met at Vanderbilt, he's a warrior. But yeah, 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:46.880 we're gonna have a lot of fun today, guys, a 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:49.200 lot of fun. One thing we need you to do. 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:53.600 Here's our call to action. All right, let's follow busting 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:57.440 w t B on Instagram and Twitter. All right, now 0:05:57.440 --> 0:05:58.360 on YouTube you want to. 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:00.200 I don't have I don't have Instagram. 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:02.320 You don't Hey, that's okay, it's okay. This is for 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:03.200 the this for the wolves. 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:07.560 I got a wife. 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.280 You hold that thought. We're gonna dive in, but I 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:13.200 don't want to inst You want to see our episodes. 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:15.800 You want to see our episodes and content form visually. 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:19.400 Our YouTube is Busting with the Boys. That's on YouTube 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.640 and Facebook. Go give us a like. And also, the 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:22.880 big thing we want you guys to do, because we're 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:24.719 gonna get We're gonna read the best reviews today that 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.040 we've seen so far on our podcast platform is go 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.560 to Apple Podcasts, Spotify, whatever platform you guys go to 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:33.160 rate and review our podcast, and we want to shout 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:34.919 you guys out. 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It's 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:04.040 been a good day so far. 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:06.799 I woke up, had breakfast one of my good friends, 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.080 our players in college players cap out of a side. 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:10.840 So I ate one of my line brothers for breakfast 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:14.040 this morning. When it got a haircut, you gotta get fresh. 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:15.760 I gotta fly back to go see the wifey in DC, 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:17.240 so you know it's on and popping. 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:17.960 Once I get back. 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:18.600 A birthday cut. 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:20.200 Gotta be fresh. I gotta have birthday cut. 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:22.880 And then I went and had lunch, and so now 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:24.400 I'm on the bus man. It's been a great morning 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:24.880 so far. 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:26.760 Just solid. I wish we actually did bring you a 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:28.320 little president a little merch on you right there. 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:28.760 There you go. 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:30.360 You didn't even have to pay us for that, because 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:32.440 it's your birthday. No guests they have to pay. 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:35.400 Yeah, I feel like I've reached full on dad mode, 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:37.320 where all you wear is free T shirts that you 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:38.880 get from other people a little bit, so you know, 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:40.640 I walked in with a Vanda, but one obviously free, 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:42.360 and just got another one today, so I haven't bought 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:43.320 a shirt in years. 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:45.240 But you know, hey, I'm full dad mod so it's 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:45.560 all good. 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:47.840 Yeah, we'll brought you to that, We'll brought you back home. 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:48.720 Man. 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.160 I actually had to come down for a quick I 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:53.480 do a little couple of PRPs before the year starts, 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:55.240 just to get some good stem cells back in some 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:57.560 of the joints. This is for your knee, right, yeah, yeah, 0:07:57.600 --> 0:07:59.280 for the knee. So just you know, I've gotten to 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:01.280 the point where I'm back to one hundred percent. But 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.160 at the same time, I don't ever want to go 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:05.800 back down that road those injuries and that rehab, Like, 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:07.640 let me be proactive about the stuff from now on. 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:09.360 So I got to come down meet with some of 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:11.200 my dogs from VANDIT. But on Monday I was like, 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:12.480 all right, I might as well kick you for the 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:13.239 next couple of days. 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:13.960 So I got to. 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.120 Run to you guys yesterday and now I'm on the 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:17.720 bus today. So I feel like I'm doing pretty good 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:18.240 this time around. 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:20.600 That's a quick turnaround. You got to do that prehab 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:22.760 instead of doing that rehab and man standing on top 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:24.800 of it dude, that's a big deal. Will's will is 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:26.480 bigger than stuff you listened to Ben Greenfield. 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:28.320 Ever, I've not listened to Ben Greenfield. You got to 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:28.640 put me on. 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:31.360 Just go to Ben Greenfield or I mean, we don't 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:32.200 want to shout out his podot. 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:33.920 We don't wan to shout out Ben Genfields podcast Grief. 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:34.679 That's a great podcast. 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:36.559 That's a great podcast. Has a lot a lot of 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:38.040 good insight, a lot of good inside, a lot of 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:40.439 good recovery stuff. He just kind of experiments on himself 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:43.200 all the time and then provides all that data to 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:45.959 everybody on what works, what doesn't, what he's really into. 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:48.440 If you're an athlete, if you're an average joe, if 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:52.360 you're in between athlete ever shoe which equals CrossFit? Right, 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:56.880 Oh well, dude, it takes a lot of hard work 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.359 to be this mediocre looking dude. 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:03.360 The thing that's important is if you guys, if there's 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:05.280 an athlete out there that thinks I want to know 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:07.280 how to make my body better. Ben greed Fields is 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.120 a great podcast. This is not the podcast that is 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.040 going to get that's going to give you life hacks 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:12.720 for those types of things. We're here to have fun times, 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:14.800 gig a little bit and enjoy ourselves and meet some 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:17.120 cool people. But as far as Puffy goes, hit me 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:19.080 real quick on what PRP is, I know, but just 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:21.080 hit the viewers what it is. 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:22.680 So basically, play lit rich plasma. 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:25.400 So whenever you want to get some healing into an area, 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:28.480 obviously the biggest things are getting blood and oxygen in 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:30.640 that area. That's how scabs heal, that's how bones come 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:33.200 back together. And so there's a couple areas in the body, 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:36.559 like tendons, especially the patul tendon, where oxygen and blood 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:37.840 cells don't actually. 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:38.959 Get to as efficiently. 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:40.840 And so the best way to do is to take 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:43.080 your own blood out of your arm and then put 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:44.720 it back into your body. We all know that our 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:48.439 body has self already made healing components. That's a beautiful 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:51.200 thing about the human body. But it's just making it 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.000 a lot easier to take your own blood, put it 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:55.040 back into an area and to promote faster healing. 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:57.160 So before the season, a lot of guys will do it. 0:09:57.840 --> 0:09:59.360 I know a couple of my boys and the Eagles, 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:01.599 they still do it before the season, just to be proactive. 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:04.319 And so, like I said, I had a couple of 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:06.760 injuries after my third year, and it took me a while, 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:08.719 a couple of surgeries really get back healthy. And that's 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.920 kind of when I learned about taking that whole holistic approach, 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.760 learned about my body, learning about recovery and so now, man, 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:15.960 so it's a full on job. 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:19.040 My wife also plays sports. She's a professional soccer player. 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:21.240 She plays in DC and she also plays for the 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:23.720 Jamaican national team, and so she's all on board with 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:24.080 it too. 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:24.320 Man. 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:26.800 So our whole family man has kind of gone on 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.480 this holistic train and trying to figure out the best 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:31.000 way to improve quality of life. 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:32.000 So we really enjoying it. 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.120 Now. You did a cocktail of PRP in stem so 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:34.840 you said. 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:36.440 I only did PRP just PRP. 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:38.439 Yeah, yeah, yeah, familiar with stem cell too, right. 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.640 Yeah, a million stimson. If I was recovering from an 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:43.360 actual injury, I would definitely done stins. I've actually done 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:45.640 stem cell before. From an in biblical court, I've done 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:46.000 that before. 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:49.120 Yeah, the embryotic or amniotic or embryonic stems. 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:51.240 I'm not going to butcher the word, but I know 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:53.160 for a fact it was from it was from a 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:55.320 C section. They took it out, and then they actually 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:57.360 put in my hamstring when I pulled my hamstring with 0:10:57.400 --> 0:10:58.880 the Patriots, and I came back in like. 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:00.440 Four weeks, so I got it. I've got a two 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:02.480 year old hamstring right now, but it's going well. 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:04.800 Yeah. Unless year I had a grade too. I tore 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:07.000 my hamstring as well and did the same thing, had 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:08.840 pr or stem cell put right into it. 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:09.880 Yeah, and I was. 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:12.839 Back, you know, in four weeks. Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy, man. 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:15.160 That stuff is. That stuff really does work. What's up? 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:17.440 Nothing? I just I remember when you had that hamstring issue. 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:22.000 Another I remember. I remember talking to the head trainer 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:22.720 and he's like, well. 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:25.080 Trust me, we had the same conversation where you got 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:25.559 knocked out. 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:29.079 It's a video of it. There's literally a video of 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:30.040 me sleeping on the ground. 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:31.959 Yeah I know. And then they're like, man, he's really 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:34.319 he's really milking that thing. Like a week after a week. 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:37.800 I played played thirteen days later. That's a big deal. 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:39.840 Yeah, well, what's Taylor Bell? He jokes around with me. 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:41.440 I don't know why he has been coming to work. 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:44.680 You know, once you once you pay a guy, you know, hey, that's. 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:48.959 But for people that for people that don't know, explain 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.920 like what your injury was and what you've been overcoming 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:52.560 the last year. 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:55.520 Yeah, So what it really was, honestly, we just overtime 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:58.200 was wearing tear kind of think called ten and noses. 0:11:58.240 --> 0:11:59.559 So a lot of people are familiar with the word 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:01.400 ten and I it's ten and knights. Basically just a 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:03.600 little bit wearing down the tissue. But you can kind 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:04.760 of bounce back from ten the knights with. 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:06.119 A little bit of rest and recovery. 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:08.840 I had reached the point where no amount of rest 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:11.240 and recovery was going to help those fibers come back together, 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:14.480 and so I had to actually God to do some 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:16.599 other procedures to really get that thing, to get the 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:18.680 knee back to where it was. And so that was 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:22.319 the first thing. And so that kind of happened as 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:25.679 I was leaving the Eagles. And so when I left 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:27.719 the Eagles, I actually was already hurt and I was 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:28.640 in need of some type of stuff. 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:30.480 When you say leaving the Eagles, your contract was up, 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:32.400 and no, I got I got traded. I got traded, 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:33.400 that's right, that's right. 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:34.040 I got trade to. 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.840 Buffalo, and you know, and like I said, I had 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:38.480 had a good time in Buffalo. I like made one 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:40.760 joke about Buffalo a long time, and I think people 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:44.280 are still like really upset. I don't know if I'm 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:46.280 going to go back, so I don't really care if 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:49.280 they're all bad at me. But at the same time, though, 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.719 I did enjoy myself there, But when I got when 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:53.600 I got traded there, I was still I was already 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:55.600 hurt and so I need I was in need of surgery. 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:57.640 So I literally told my receivers coach, like, look, I 0:12:57.640 --> 0:12:59.440 could probably give you about ten good weeks, but I 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:01.640 need to go get because I'm going to end up 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:03.520 hitting free agency and I want to be healthy. So 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:05.840 I played like ten games man, and I was just 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:07.800 I was hurting the whole time. 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:10.319 From the tendinoses, from the yes, from the tendinoses. 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:12.800 Because I needed an actual procedure at this point. And 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:15.959 so after the season or after those ten games, they 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:18.360 put me on IR I went down to James Andrews 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:18.840 in Florida. 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:21.040 They did this thing called a ten X procedure. 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:23.120 So what they did was they go in, they instract, 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:26.120 they extracted the bad tissue, took bone marrow out of 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:29.480 my back, spun that around those themselves and then injected 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:31.600 to my knee and I actually was in a straight 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:34.480 leg knee brace, and I also had an ankle injury. 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.080 They took out my ostrigonum. It was a bone that 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.360 also got fractured when before I left the Eagles. Yes, 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:41.800 I was playing on two bad wheels the whole time 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:45.040 I was in Buffalo. So that off season I had 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:48.640 ankle surgery and basically a very I want to say 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:51.840 knee surgery, but it was a pretty a pretty serious procedure. 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.200 And so when I woke up from surgery, I had 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:57.040 a right leg a right boot on, and a left 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:59.160 leg knee brace, and I had to recover. 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:01.160 And that's you entered free agency. 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:02.320 That's how I entered free agency. 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:04.640 What was your free agency process? 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:06.720 Like, honestly, man, it was a trying time, man, you 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.679 know because statistically when I left the Eagles, you know. 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:10.800 I productive productive. 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:13.880 I had more catches than anybody in Eagles history through 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:16.400 the first three years. If you looked at guys like 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:18.439 that came in with Devonte Adams, these guys who I 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:20.800 have a ton of respect for, and numbers don't say 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:22.760 the whole story, but we know for a fact there's 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.640 guys that are getting paid strictly off numbers, correct you so, 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.240 and I felt like I had the numbers to warrant 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:31.560 a good contract, but all because of those injuries and 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:34.080 going to Buffalo and having that down. 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:36.560 Year and having to go get surgery. Literally, I didn't 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:37.320 get calls. 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.360 For the first four weeks of free agency, and then 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:42.560 all of a sudden, Bill Belichick and the Patriots call, 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:46.360 and so they called me, bring me on, and like 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:50.520 you're not missing any time with them, like OTAs are 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:53.320 pretty much like training camp. And so, man, it was 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:55.480 a very trying time for my family. 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:55.640 Man. 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:57.840 We had to definitely lean on a ton of faith. 0:14:57.920 --> 0:14:59.720 But I have a great wife, man, she supported me 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.600 big time. And so I went to OTA's they signed 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:04.680 me to a contract. I won't say the specific numbers, 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:08.480 but the numbers basically were if I made ninety percent 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:11.240 of the off season workouts that I would get a 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:13.520 good amount of money. I probably got signed that because 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:15.720 they didn't expect me to be able to get through 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:18.800 every single workout. But man, you know, stay strong, kept 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:21.760 getting kept getting better, and took that holistic approach that 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:24.440 I told you about, made all the workouts, collected a 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.720 little bit of cash and then once I got released 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:28.480 from them after I pulled my hamstring a camp, I 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:30.120 went back to the Eagles, went to the playoffs. 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:32.360 Man, I feel like I'm back on my feet. That's awesome, dude. 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:35.320 And you were going on other visits besides aside from 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:37.920 signing with the Patriots, Yes, because remember remember I went 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:39.080 on my visit to the Titans. 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:39.360 Yes. 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.120 And you were like, I forget, like why we were texting. 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:44.280 I think I was just training in Nashville and we 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:46.680 were trying to link up and train together, and you 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.520 were like, yo, I got a visit coming up too. Yes, 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:52.000 And we were both kind of excited about us both 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:54.320 kind of playing. But you just never know what's going 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:55.600 to happen when they go in and do all the 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:56.360 medical stuff. 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:58.320 You never know, you know, And honestly, I was at 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:00.960 the point where I was like, okay, you know these 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.640 teams know they still look at me like, you know, Okay. 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:06.240 It was his identity. He's a pass catcher. He'll come 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.040 out here, he'll run routes to work hard, he'll catch 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:10.120 the ball. And as I get older, i'd be great 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:11.880 for the young guys because I'm not look, I don't 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:13.360 got as much skin in the game where it comes 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:14.840 like I'm not gonna help that guy out, like I 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:16.720 want to see everybody get paid. I'm more of a 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:18.120 guy that wants to be cool with guys in the 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:20.760 locker room too. But I got a call from like 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:24.960 Green Bay, you know, obviously the Patriots, Titans and so, 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:27.840 but they were all in league minimum. So I went 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:30.920 a second round draft pick one point one million guaranteed, 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:34.240 putting up these numbers, having one year that was down, 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:36.920 and now here you go, We'll try and give you 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:38.280 eight hundred thousand dollars. 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:39.600 And so that was kind of hard. 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:41.280 But I was like, I'm gonna pick a team where 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:43.880 I know I can work my butt off, get the 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:47.440 best opportunity possibly get the ball, and then now you 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:49.920 get a chance to increase your value. Went to the 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:53.440 Patriots and do It's crazy. It's like Bill Beljak has 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:55.680 like the mightiest touch. If you get I would tell 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:59.480 every free agent, if the Patriots call you, like, undrafted free. 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:01.080 Agent, go to the Patriots. 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:01.640 Don't do that. 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:05.680 Well, no, no, I'm saying that. Well, I'm just saying no, no, no, no, no. 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:08.120 I'm right though, I'm saying, but here's the only thing 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:10.200 and I shout out to the Niners. I'm not just 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:12.440 trying to you know what I'm saying, probably the pat 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:14.040 I'm saying, this is why I saw happens. 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:14.240 Though. 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.520 These guys will go to the Patriots, they might do terrible, 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:21.160 but every other team is trying to steal guys from 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:23.480 the Patriots. They're like, oh, if Bill Belichick thought he 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:24.840 was good, he must be good. 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:27.440 Will gave m a chance and he barely didn't make it. 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:30.080 Maybe maybe he's. 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:31.800 It's like, dude, watch your own film, and so honestly, 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:34.000 I just that's what I That's what I realized. 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:34.160 Man. 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:36.360 Like I was at the Pagers for a little bit, 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:39.119 had was doing strong in camp, had a good off season, 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:42.000 was healthy, and then after I even pulled my hamstring, 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:45.000 I got calls from some some from some contenders, like 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.720 from some serious contenders. Still want to be on league minimum, 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:49.880 but more calls than I got during the free agency. 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:51.800 And then once the Eagles called, it was was like, 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:53.920 no braind Like, I know these guys know the system, 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:55.359 good friends with Carson, so let's go. 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:57.920 What's that? What's that like when you go from being 0:17:57.960 --> 0:17:59.960 on a team leaving and coming back. 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:03.600 Yeah, I would say honestly, it's only it's great unless 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:05.959 they win the Super Bowl the year you're gone, and 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:09.840 then it sucks. Absolutely, I can't stand. I hope you 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:11.639 guys have a ton of people listening right now. If 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:13.680 you see me, I was not on the Super Bowl team, 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:15.879 So please don't ask every time I tell somebody, Oh, 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:17.880 I played for the Eagles for four years. Oh congression, 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:19.399 shut up like I didn't. 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:20.640 I wasn't. 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:23.359 I was not there. It sucks. 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:27.560 And then I was with the Patriots' past camp. I 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:29.600 got released, pull my hamstring and they go in the 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:31.919 Super Bowl, So you know, I don't know. I'm like, 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:34.960 maybe I'm good for your team, but I don't know. 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:37.199 But look, bottom line though, was I went back and 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:37.919 I'm not going lie. 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:39.360 It was great to be back on my homies. 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.560 But there's still this cloud over your head at first, 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:46.840 that like, if we don't win or we're not successful, 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:49.440 it's going to be because I'm here. There's that thing 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:50.879 in the back of your head because when I was gone, 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:53.520 when I when they traded me, they were so successful, 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:56.680 and so when you get back there's that feeling of like, man, 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:57.520 do I live up. 0:18:58.000 --> 0:18:59.400 I wasn't with the Super Bowl team. 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:02.240 There's a couple there's a couple of guys back you 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:03.680 and Djack. 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:06.000 Right, yeah, d Jack and he's coming back this year 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:08.560 and so, and I don't know how much he would 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:10.879 feel that, you know, I guess I felt it a 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:13.480 little bit more because I was literally in camp for 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:15.359 the camp that they were going to go on to 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:16.200 win the Super Bowl. 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:17.960 I got traded for Ronald Darby. 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:20.119 They need a corner, and so then when they go 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:21.960 do that, and then I come back to pretty much 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:24.520 the exact same team. Every bolly comes to you like 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:27.240 if you drop that, that's why. 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:29.880 You know they've said that to you. 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:30.760 Oh you get all that. 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:32.520 I mean, that's that's why I'm not really heavily on 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:34.159 social media and stuff, but I was. 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:36.800 There's some like I honestly, I felt like a lot 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:37.360 of people. 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:39.960 You're saying, you're saying people say that people not the teammates. 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:41.919 No, the teammates were. The teammates were good people. 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:46.440 That can definitely be like a deep dark hole you 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:48.919 can get yourself in when when you start reading and 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:51.200 seeing all the people that are like, oh, you suck, 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:52.879 we should have done this with you or that with you, 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.119 and we've all been in that certain situation. But it's 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:58.680 definitely can be almost like a poison that leaks into 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:01.320 your blame. Then it grows and it's sprouts and it's 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:04.080 so much easier. I don't know. I keep social media 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:06.600 because to me, it's like if you these people can 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:07.800 say whatever they want. At the end of the day, 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:09.320 I'm the one doing it right, you know what I'm 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:11.600 saying exactly, And we trained it, and especially the Eagles, 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:13.640 Like I played there my rookie year. You were there 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:15.840 and y'all beat us. It was like we were two 0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:18.520 and fourteen that year. But like y'all have some ruthless 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:21.639 ass fans. Oh, Like the Eagles are crazy things hard. 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:24.000 You appreciate that, Yeah, you appreciate the hell out of that. 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:25.560 But it's like you got to live and die by 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:28.880 that swords sometimes, and it's okay. People people always expect 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:30.840 the most that if you people never go to themselves 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:32.280 and say, well, I didn't do this, I didn't do that. 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:34.320 People always wanting to, hey, I point the finger at 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:36.159 this guy, this is the reason why I'm not successful 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:38.959 or my team's not doing this. And as soon as 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:41.920 you learn that, it's like it's just smoke, Like there's 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:44.080 a lot of keyboard warriors out there, and the more 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:47.280 they get after it. If you have haters, then you're 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:48.720 you're obviously doing something right. 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:50.600 No question you, no question. Now you got to hit 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:51.239 it on the head man. 0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:52.800 And so yeah, that was and that was just like 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:54.800 literally that like kind of like first little hurdle. 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:57.800 And then I will say, man, when I came down. 0:20:57.560 --> 0:20:59.920 To I score actually my first touchdown back in Nashville, 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:02.120 because you know. 0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:05.840 Plays it plays on Vanderbilt's highlight reel of your guys's 0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:08.719 two NFL players. You guys have in the league, it's 0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:12.280 your highlights. It's you run that go or whatever it was. 0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:13.160 It was it last year. 0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:14.000 It was last year. 0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:16.520 Remember that. Remember the score of that game? I don't 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:16.960 remember what. 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:18.520 I don't remember either. 0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:20.920 Yeah, you guys, will you look up the score of 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:24.440 the nineteen Eagles versus a Titans game. Pulled that up quick, 0:21:24.440 --> 0:21:26.760 because I totally forgot was that a Who won that one? 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:33.280 That was a close one? I think, you know. 0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:36.800 I actually the Eagles posted something the other day. Who's 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:39.560 that d n You guys have Derek Barnett, Yes, yeah, 0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:42.320 And we we ran a play. We had quick play 0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:45.840 actually was like boom boom, and I like I slept 0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:47.159 on him a little bit and he pushed pulled me 0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:48.680 and got a sack on me that game. It was 0:21:48.720 --> 0:21:51.400 actually my second game back from that concussion. You would 0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:55.919 love to talk about and and like they they posted 0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:58.679 a picture of it on their on their Twitter, and 0:21:58.720 --> 0:22:01.360 I tweeted, like, I remember this, dude. 0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:03.400 You're You're so free on there, dude. 0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:06.000 That's the thing is like, Dude, we talked about this 0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:07.679 before were on the bus. It's so much easier just 0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:10.280 to be yourself. I'm not worried about anybody making fun 0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:12.560 of me, Like, no one's in fun of me more 0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:14.080 than me. You know, no one holds himself to a 0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:16.240 higher standard than I do. Right, so obviously if I 0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:17.720 give up a sack, like it's not going to be like, no, 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:19.840 that never happened. It's like, well, yeah it should happen, dude. 0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:20.240 Yeah. 0:22:20.280 --> 0:22:22.000 And it's like it's just fun. It's easierally fun of 0:22:22.040 --> 0:22:23.960 yourself because Will does a good job of this. He 0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:26.040 gets his ass in front of every joke people are 0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:28.000 going to make on him, got to get. 0:22:27.880 --> 0:22:28.119 Out of there. 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:28.639 No, I love it. 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:30.600 No, I've always told people like I take this approach 0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:32.800 now with everything, I either engage or evacuate. 0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:34.920 That's it. Like, so when it comes to social media, 0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:36.400 like I know who I'm wired. 0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:39.119 I'm a communicator, so words mean a lot to me, 0:22:39.240 --> 0:22:39.840 you know what I'm saying. 0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:42.600 So if I know, like, okay, well you're really gonna 0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:43.359 put the score right. 0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:49.199 Twenty six, twenty three, you know what, Cory Davis had 0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:51.720 a touchdown did at the end, taught it? 0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:52.800 He did, We won. 0:22:53.359 --> 0:22:57.000 I'm I'm with the Niners now, so you know I can't. 0:22:57.000 --> 0:22:59.880 I can't really do very is sick. 0:22:59.880 --> 0:23:01.400 I love I love San Francisco. 0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:05.320 I love it man, Santa Clara's more. But it's awesome though. 0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:07.679 You you play with Sherman out there, he's great. He's 0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:08.120 a good dude. 0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:11.960 Really, he's a really good dude, very intelligent, and one 0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:13.520 thing that's not taking he loves his teammates. 0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:16.160 Man, he seems like that really does. Yeah. 0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:18.520 Great, He's like that out at the NFLPA meetings, Like 0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:22.000 he's always like chopping up with everybody, and he's like 0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:23.919 works hard to try and get stuff done and be 0:23:23.960 --> 0:23:26.760 heard and be talking and talk about issues and he's 0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:29.560 always on board with everybody. Anytime I've seen him he's 0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:30.200 been really cool. 0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:33.000 Yeah, I was with him. It was the year I 0:23:33.040 --> 0:23:35.399 think the year before he tore his achillites, and we 0:23:35.400 --> 0:23:38.440 were in Orlando together and I like, you know rich Sherman. 0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:40.000 Every one knows who Richard Truman is, and so like 0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:42.639 the whole legion of Boom thing, and I'm I'm watching 0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:44.280 this dude. We're hanging out the pool and we're talking 0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:46.280 a little bit, but his kids like getting in the 0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:47.960 deep end and not getting like going back and forth. 0:23:47.960 --> 0:23:50.560 This kid's like three or four, and he's like parenting 0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:52.160 his kid and like he's just being a good dad. 0:23:52.520 --> 0:23:54.040 And I took that away. I was like, man, this dude, 0:23:54.080 --> 0:23:56.200 like because all you see, like we were talking aboutside, 0:23:56.200 --> 0:23:59.560 like you just see people's like facades or like how 0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:02.240 they are on social media or like on the football field. 0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:04.119 This due's just being an awesome All weekend was with 0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:06.199 his family having a good time. He seems like an 0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:08.720 awesome dude. And then people think I get I get 0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:10.600 pissed at him because we had a little altercation when we 0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:12.479 played him a couple of years back and I got 0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:14.360 in his face. But he's because he hit Marcus late. 0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:16.719 He's but I still think He's an awesome guy, like 0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:17.639 he's a really good person. 0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:19.919 Great dude, Yeah, great dude. I can't say enough about him. 0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:21.040 A good team, good coach. 0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:23.600 Jimmy Garoppolo out there too. He was in our draft class. 0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:26.000 Most handsome dude in the league, beast. 0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:29.240 Yeah, he brought up the people chirp him for. 0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:33.119 Yeah, the first day, first day, because he got it, 0:24:33.119 --> 0:24:34.199 because I'm not gonna, I can't come. 0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:36.360 We're talking about him being out there with that with 0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:38.720 that chick, with what I'm talking about with the porn star, 0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:39.399 with the porn star. 0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:41.840 Yeah, of course, first day. Let me I get this point. 0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:43.679 You know, it's like it is what it is. 0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:43.879 It is. 0:24:44.359 --> 0:24:47.240 It's like you're in public. Let's stay if you got caught, what. 0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:48.920 Did you ask him? 0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:55.080 You know why? Because I couldn't. I could not. 0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:57.000 I could not act like I was trying to have 0:24:57.040 --> 0:24:59.560 a genuine friend because look, dude, as a receiver, there's 0:24:59.680 --> 0:25:02.040 like somebody that you like just don't want to be 0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:04.600 all over. It's the quarterback because it's just like, you know, 0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:07.359 you want to be an organic friendship like me and Carson. 0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:09.399 I would say we had a good organic friendship because 0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:12.720 Carson was he was third string. When we first came 0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:15.119 to the Eagles with Sam, Bradford was a starter and 0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:17.520 it was Chase Daniel. He didn't become to start until 0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:20.240 Sam got traded. So I was cool with Carson, you know, 0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:22.320 the third string guy, like we expect him to play. 0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:24.520 He was just a really cool dude, great guy, and 0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:25.960 then he became the starter. 0:25:26.200 --> 0:25:28.919 But nobody would have ever questioned, like, Okay, he's just 0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:30.760 kicking it with cars because he wants the ball. Like 0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:32.359 I was hanging with this dude and he couldn't do 0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:34.480 nothing for me, you know, And that's how I kind 0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:36.960 of like do so with my quarterbacks, Like I don't 0:25:37.000 --> 0:25:39.560 want to be like politically correct. 0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:41.160 Hey, I don't care if this off. 0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:44.600 He just laughed, Jimmy, Jimmy, what's up? Man? Like, hey 0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:46.120 was up that point? 0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:48.840 Stars? Huh yeah, you know you watch your videos before 0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:50.760 you guys whatever, Yeah, you know. 0:25:53.320 --> 0:25:55.840 It was, but he was he honestly, he laughed it off. Man. 0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:58.720 He's a super super cool dude, cool with. 0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:02.400 Everybody in the locker room. Uh, but very very focused. 0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:04.680 You can you can tell he he still has a 0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:06.199 lot of that. He got a lot of suf from 0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:09.360 Tom and so he feels that he feels that weight, 0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:10.720 but actually like motivates him. 0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:12.640 So a lot of guys love him. I think he's 0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:13.879 have a really good year this year for us. 0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:14.960 You big fan of Shanahan. 0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:17.600 Yeah, he's a he's cool bro. 0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:20.359 I only have to be around him in with the 0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:22.080 Skins for one or two years when he was like 0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:23.680 the quarterbacks coach and OC. 0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:24.720 Yeah. 0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:26.480 But how is he as a head guy? How's he's 0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:27.000 a head guy? 0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:30.080 I would probably say he seems like not the type 0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:32.240 of person to be phased by, like, oh, I'm the 0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:34.000 head coach now I have to He has a great 0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:36.400 staff of guys that he trusts. He knows the game 0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:38.880 of football. I will say, man, like my two receivers 0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:42.120 coaches are Wes Welker and Miles Austin. Like it takes 0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:45.080 a very secure head coach to be like, you know what, 0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:48.040 I'm gonna bring on these two ballers because I understand 0:26:48.040 --> 0:26:49.440 the dynamic of a receiver room. 0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:50.680 He's very cerebral. 0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:54.960 He understands like wide receivers, we react better to coaches 0:26:55.280 --> 0:26:58.240 that have that have done it and we and as receivers, 0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:00.200 our whole game is confidence. People say catch and the 0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:03.560 ball is you know eyes and hands, your confidence. 0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:05.760 If you aren't confident, you're not gonna catch anything. 0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:08.359 And so when we're watching film, you got Wes Welker 0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:11.359 number twenty two and catches all time. You got Miles Austin, 0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:13.040 David Kim Kardashian, you know what I mean. 0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:18.840 Obviously he had he was Miles like as bro. 0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:21.160 It was his house for like a good couple of years. 0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:23.679 So these dudes instill confidence. 0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:26.679 Like if I do something out in practice and Miles 0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:28.440 dass me up, that's like big bro. 0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:30.560 That's like your big bro, and you're twelve, like you're 0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:30.920 the man. 0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:33.840 And so like that's the type of dude I would say, 0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:35.600 like Shanahan, like he knows how to put people in 0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:38.439 the right positions to be their best selves and to 0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:40.520 just relax and play the game. And so that's why 0:27:40.520 --> 0:27:42.199 I really appreciate about him. And I know that he 0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:43.520 thinks deeper than the surface. 0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:46.520 That's awesome, man, that's good. That's good. That's saying, hey, hey, 0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:48.040 you got to listen to him. Bro, Like he dated 0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:49.479 Kim Kardashian. 0:27:49.200 --> 0:27:51.560 You have to got to dude, he's got some stories. 0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:52.600 Does he ever talk about it? 0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:54.440 I mean, he played me at the Eagles. 0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:56.920 So I know all like the stories, but I've told 0:27:57.000 --> 0:27:58.840 the guys like, we got to wait till like third 0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:00.960 week of camp, when it starts to get kind of tiring. 0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:03.679 You got to bring out those stories. Yeah, we got 0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:04.880 get for some juice for practice. 0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:07.720 Like that's funny. That is crazy. You played, you played 0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:08.960 with him, and now he's your coach. 0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:09.439 Yeah. 0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:10.840 It was a big It was one of the big 0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:14.159 reasons why I ended up going to because, like you know, 0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:16.560 I'm big, guess, I'm big on relationships man, Like I 0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:19.360 love spending time with good people because currency that only 0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:21.320 provides so much happiness, you know, So I want to 0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:23.680 be around good people in good community. 0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:25.720 And so that's what I like about Myles. 0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:27.440 Definitely got to really get ahead on the shoulders. 0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:29.160 Man, got good people, man, good family. 0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:31.320 Currency only provides so much happiness. 0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:35.359 Yeah, that's you get Haggard, You get that. That's a 0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:37.720 good boy. Yeah that the puppies out here. 0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:38.360 I love it. 0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:40.400 I love it, dude. That's awesome. You really like you 0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:42.440 really got like stuff taking care of you. 0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:45.160 Been married for so I've been married for two years now, 0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:48.160 like I said, going on three, Like I said, great, 0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:51.400 great wife. Uh we We actually went to Vanderbilt together, 0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:54.760 so I was a junior, she was a freshman. So 0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:56.040 I was like, okay, I need talked to her for 0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:58.160 any of other football players. Do you know I got 0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:01.760 to mark my territory. It's like Haggard And so basically 0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:03.280 we became really good friends though, And I think that 0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:05.360 was the best part about it. Was like she wasn't 0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:07.080 just going to be like all over me because I 0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:09.360 was a football player. So we developed a really good friendship. 0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:12.560 I ended up going to Philadelphia. She got drafted to 0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:14.880 the pro team in DC, And by that time I 0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:16.360 kind of was like I always knew I was going 0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:18.160 to be a family guy. Like my dad's been married 0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:20.200 with my mom for thirty one years. That's like, that's 0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:21.560 my DNA, Like that's what I know. 0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:22.240 You know. 0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:25.680 I always saw a man waking up, going to work early, 0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:28.800 coming home, eating at the dinner table, loving my mom, 0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:30.680 treating her right like my dad would get gifts from 0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:32.680 my mom and holidays, he'd be like, hey, guys, like 0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:33.680 do you think this is good? 0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:35.040 Like do you think she'll like it? 0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:35.520 Yeah? 0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:37.120 And sometimes she would hate it and take it back. 0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:38.760 He's be so dejected, but he's. 0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:41.640 Come back to that right, right, but you come back 0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:44.080 with that same energy the next holiday, like this is 0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:46.160 gonna knock her socks off. And so that was the 0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:48.640 type of effort I saw, and a guy like to treat, 0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:50.560 you know, treating this woman the right way. So that 0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:52.440 was kind of how I was brought up. And so 0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:54.560 when I met shanea man, she was, she was perfect. 0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:57.560 And when she got drafted to d C, I was like, man, 0:29:57.640 --> 0:29:59.120 this is this is nothing but fake. 0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:00.640 Man. I got to go make this thing happened. So 0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:01.000 I was. 0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:03.520 I was on that Amtrak baby up and down man 0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:09.120 going to her games, spending time Dayton. We started dating 0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:11.800 for about after about in about nine months, I proposed 0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:12.880 and I actually proposed her. 0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:14.880 We used to go eat this pub. 0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:17.000 Every single Day's a place on Vanderbilt campus. 0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:19.440 It's called the Pub, and uh it's a place that 0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:20.920 a lot of people eat on campus, like kind of 0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:22.480 like the cool spot, hip spot. We used to go 0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:25.240 there every Monday when we didn't have practice, and we 0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:28.240 would meet and have a little little dinner. I have wings, 0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:30.880 she had the case of dea, And uh, what I 0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:33.440 did was when the night I proposed or I got 0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:35.440 us a helicopter to go around Nashville. 0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:39.000 We landed flex Taylor, Taylor, Taylor, La. 0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:41.760 We'll get to that. 0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:45.480 Yeah, it'll get that in a second. You took it helicopter, 0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:47.680 James Franklin. Let me get the guy, get the helicopter. 0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:49.880 It's my guy. It was his helicopter. 0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:52.040 Yeah, that's that's my boy. 0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:56.880 I love the death helicopter boom land on Vanderbilt football field. 0:30:57.720 --> 0:31:00.080 The old A D David Williams, rest in peace on 0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:00.640 my good Brothers. 0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:03.000 He actually just passed away the old ad mesas on 0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:05.720 the football field. It takes pictures of us and then 0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:07.840 he says, hey, I'm gonna drive you to the restaurant. 0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:09.920 You guys are going to We hop in his car. 0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:12.200 He's like, it's like the coolest uber black of all time. 0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:15.360 Like it's the ad of the school driving you to 0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:18.000 to to the restaurant. Or the restaurant's the pub. We 0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:19.880 walked to a pub. I got the whole thing rented out, 0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:22.000 and got the booth that we used to sit at, 0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:24.040 white tablecloth everything. 0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:26.640 I got the case of Dias, the hot wings, and. 0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:27.840 Then I proposed to it right there. 0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:28.120 Man. 0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:34.080 Yeah, shoot, dude, that's a solid story story, sir killing 0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:35.520 it Will's writing notes down right now. 0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:37.840 I'm sitting here like gift on the way home. 0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:40.080 Bro, you got a gift car. 0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:45.440 But I tell people that, you know, right exactly it worked. 0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:47.440 But yeah, I tell people that though, and I say, 0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:49.400 like in the same breath through, like don't hear that 0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:51.760 story and think, Okay, here's this great No, it's because 0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:53.640 of the stuff that my dad instilled in me. It's 0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:55.720 because I got to see what he did with the 0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:59.200 small things. Now I've got these amazing resources and amazing relationships. 0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:01.680 I'm doing the same thing that he's doing on just 0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:04.360 what some people will call like a quote unquote larger scale. 0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:07.240 But it's the same thing in the same spirit. So yeah, man, 0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:08.800 just got I got a really blessed life. Got ten 0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:13.080 ten month old son named Josiah, great, great, great little kids, 0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:16.760 super super good child, done cry a lot man, easy 0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:18.600 on mom and dad, and we got a good support 0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:19.480 system my parents. 0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:21.719 Her parents are actually both married thirty one years. They 0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:26.320 got married in the same year, same year, bro, exactly. Man. 0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:28.480 So, like I said, I'm blessed. Man, I got nothing 0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:32.719 to complain about. Man, that's out. You gotta put together, man, 0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:33.800 that's alway do we go from here. 0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:36.560 The guy's perfect. No, that's not he was our next guy. 0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:38.640 You were mentioning it outside the bus twenty seven. You're 0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:41.200 getting older, you're you know, you know, as football players 0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:43.600 you talk about like you know your back nine right, 0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:46.480 What would you like to do after football? You know, 0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:48.320 I would say, Man, there's a couple of things I 0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:49.000 really do love. 0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:49.240 Man. 0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:51.920 You know, obviously family is big for me, but man, 0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:54.120 I love Vanderbilt Love. I love the school. 0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:57.840 I love this day mister Vanderbilt. Huh, not to the 0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:00.680 public guy, but he you you internally you love. 0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:03.320 Yeah, yeah, in turn, because you got David Price is 0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:08.160 stiff competition, you know. J Cutler, like Jake, j is 0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:10.440 smooth man. A black of people think he's like an 0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:12.960 a hole, that dude. If I ever called Jay and 0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:14.640 I'm like, hey, I need you for a charity event, 0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:17.200 He's like, I'm there. He's played in my basketball playing 0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:17.440 in the back. 0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:19.520 I didn't even know Jake me to get on bus 0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:20.240 with the boys. 0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:23.680 He would do it, I think he would. He won't 0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:25.720 probably talk as much as I do, but he'd be here. 0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:27.080 He's a great dude, don't. 0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:32.200 Zach man Burger is yes, so Zach Zach Benberger's birthday 0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:34.600 is today as well. Really yeah, he just turned twenty eight. 0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:35.720 He's the king of Nashville too. 0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:38.880 He was a Key's the king of bat Rouge for sure, 0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:41.760 Slad bat Rouge. When he was an l s U dude, 0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:45.720 it was him, Jarvis O, Jeremy Hill, Jeremy Hill. 0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:50.520 They had honorary Bro. He's bro. He's undefeated and bro. 0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:54.240 He's it really is. He's got a crazy record that 0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:54.960 he used to do. 0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:57.280 We used to get after a ten roof and losers. 0:33:57.280 --> 0:33:59.560 But he's He's an unbelievable dude. I totally forgot what 0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:02.760 I was gonna but oh yeah. He he loved color 0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:04.680 like that was one of his favorite dudes. He loved 0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:07.000 the stoic, don't give a ship attitude. 0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:08.040 Like a cigaret. 0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:09.960 Yeah, oh dude, it's so funny. 0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:10.160 Yah. 0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:12.040 There was a he was putting the Dolphins. It was 0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:14.240 like his last year, I guess I uh yeah. Tannehill, 0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:16.520 who was with the Titans now towards a c L 0:34:17.520 --> 0:34:20.800 and uh, he came they brought him on. He was retired, 0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:22.480 they came out. He gave it a retirement and he 0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:23.960 had a player where he landed up in the slought 0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:26.080 or something like that, and they told him not to move, 0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:27.839 and he literally didn't move the entire play. 0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:30.200 Yeah, it was he couldn't wait, like he cannot wait 0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:32.160 for that opportunity to do nothing. 0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:35.839 Yeah, but that's like his like his deal. He's this 0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:37.800 is his thing. Like, Yeah, the guys seems like he 0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:39.440 doesn't give a ship, but he gives so many ship. 0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:40.719 People are so interested in them. 0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:44.720 Yeah, I feel like they can't break past that barrier 0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:45.040 he has. 0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:47.640 We'll break it exactly, well, you guys that you guys 0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:49.600 will knock down to it was like the Berlin Wall, Dude, 0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:50.440 We'll take that thing down. 0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:54.440 Dude. You're experiencing the the the character of this bus. 0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:56.239 There's a train that goes by any time we're doing 0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:57.960 an episode. This is like the second one going on 0:34:58.000 --> 0:34:58.239 right now. 0:34:58.280 --> 0:34:59.959 This is you were in the middle of saying something. 0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:02.839 But I usually have a big thing about for those 0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:05.160 of you listening. If you hear a train outside, that's 0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:07.320 because we're by trains. That's how That's how it works, 0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:10.360 right it is the ac is on. I'm still sweating, 0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:12.360 but it's extremely hot here, but imagic. The is he 0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:14.760 wasn't on adversity. That's what we do on the bus. 0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:16.720 You know, you got to overcome it, got to overcome 0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:17.160 me adversity. 0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:19.040 But you're here, calm, cool, collect man. You're always keeping 0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:19.359 a chill. 0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:19.719 Dude. 0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:21.799 It's like I said, man, I got nothing to complain about. 0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:23.440 But like, you know, back to the point about the 0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:25.520 whole vanding thing. I love vanderbl football and not and 0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:27.920 just like you have a passion for health, wellness and recovery, 0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:30.680 Like I want people to feel good. And so you know, 0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:32.640 I come from a school where essentially you have to 0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:34.840 compete against the best and the brightest in the classroom 0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:37.520 and you have to compete in the SEC. So our 0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:40.480 kids at Vanderbilt have a unique challenge ahead of them, 0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:43.680 especially the athletes. It's like, dude, these guys, like if 0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:46.040 you go when I was playing there, we have less 0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:49.239 people on the football team because how many kids can 0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:51.759 go to Vanderbilt and walk onto a football team. Like 0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:53.840 think about it. You would get athletic kids that go 0:35:53.880 --> 0:35:55.839 to Alabama that can walk on and blend right in. 0:35:56.160 --> 0:35:58.920 So Alabama their football team is working with about one 0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:00.000 hundred and twenty seven people. 0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:00.840 My boys. 0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:03.400 A coach of Oregon, he went to an Alabama practice 0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:06.279 he said they had about thirteen or I think we're 0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:09.759 like thirteen to twenty receivers. So like, these guys are 0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:13.080 not taking a ton of pounding. We've got about ten. 0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:15.239 And so now you've got these guys taking a ton 0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:17.719 of reps and they've got to go to school and 0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:19.880 do a ton of papers and have class work, you know, 0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:22.680 out the wazoo. And so I'm like, man, I want 0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:24.279 to be that guy that could come in and kind 0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:26.439 of force issue to say, Okay, how are we doing. 0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:28.840 Like everybody talks about facilities, and I get it. Everybody 0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:31.080 talks about the esthetics advantage, but we need bigger facility. 0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:34.000 You went to Michigan, you guys have a two story 0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:37.279 weight room with a flash screen TV. If we try 0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:39.400 and compare with these exactly, if you guys, if we 0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:41.239 try to compee with you guys, we're going. 0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:42.360 To be on the rat race Nebraska. 0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:46.200 So Dobson, we talk about to Dobson all the time 0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:48.320 about this kind of stuff. Like the way your guys' 0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:50.440 class says was when I went to the University of Michigan, 0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:52.719 when you had to set up classes, I'd walk into 0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:54.440 a room and they'd be like, Hey, your classes is up. 0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:56.960 Just click here, yeah, click here, Okay, can see letter 0:36:57.280 --> 0:36:59.439 and you get to pre register like two weeks before. 0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:02.520 So sure you've sure got your classes. I never I 0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:04.480 never had to worry about setting an alarm and being like, hey, 0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:06.719 you gotta get this class. And then I made it, 0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:08.719 you know, or you didn't make it. And it's crazy that, 0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:11.239 like you guys got to go in work out six 0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:13.239 fifteen s forty five. Everyone's got to be done by 0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:16.239 like nine o'clock. They had classes and then and you're 0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:20.759 in arguably, very arguably the most competitive conference in the 0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:22.239 whole country is in the ten. 0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:23.759 I give up there. 0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:28.120 You got Alabama, you got Georgia, you got Florida, LSU, 0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:31.439 Auburn's got every three years, you know, Arkansas is there. 0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:35.480 And then so you got like schools that are incredible. 0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:37.759 And everyone says all the time, oh, these guys cheat 0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:39.239 or whatever. I don't know if that's true or not, 0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:42.319 but I know being at Vanderbilt, like you guys, you 0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:45.400 guys can't even move the needle for like, you know, 0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:47.680 the sliding scale, like their act numbers have to match 0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:48.520 and their GPS. 0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:50.480 It's just to get in that school, yes, And so 0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:52.120 that's what I'm saying like, if we're not going to 0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:54.600 if we can't waiver in some of those ethics, now 0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:56.520 say we got to get then we got to look 0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:59.760 at certain areas, like nutritionally, there's enough information about nutrition 0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:01.160 out they're in education. 0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:02.600 That we should be able to have. 0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:05.600 I feel like the Vanderbilt nutrition should be the best 0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:06.680 in the city of Nashville. 0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:09.760 Like the kitchen for these kids in the city of Nashville. 0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:12.239 I think our kitchen for our athletes should be the 0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:15.480 greatest because we know eating healthy and increases your ability 0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:18.680 to get stuff done in the classroom, It lowers the 0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:22.520 chance of injury, performance goes up everything. So it's like 0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:25.439 these are areas like instead of worrying about things that 0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:28.200 look good, let's worry about things that matter. Because I 0:38:28.200 --> 0:38:30.640 feel like most of the kids that come to Vanderbilt, 0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:36.839 you're really recruiting the parents like Alabama exactly, they're looking 0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:40.040 for quality. Like Vanderbilt recruited my parents. My mom was 0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:42.880 not going to let me go anywhere else once Vanderbilt called. 0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:44.040 Because they appealed to her. 0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:44.640 This is the school. 0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:46.960 You can get a great education, you'll have great connects, 0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:48.480 and you're going to play against the best in the 0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:51.560 brightce all right, done so, And I still come back 0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:53.480 and speak to recruits, and what happens is I end 0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:56.640 up answering more questions for the parents than the actual kids. 0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:58.600 If you're Alabama, you can walkup to a kid and say, 0:38:58.600 --> 0:38:59.440 you grew up in Alabama. 0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:01.480 Do you want to be the right? Yeah? 0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:02.439 All right, it's pretty easy. 0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:05.520 Oh that you can be anywhere with Florida, Texas, Arizona, California. 0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:06.120 Yeah, anywhere? 0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:07.040 Was that SEC schools? 0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:07.760 Eh, exactly. 0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:11.719 I've heard that. I've heard rumors they pay well, I 0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:12.120 heard them. 0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:14.480 I've heard that, dude, I heard that a bunch of stories. 0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:15.040 It's just right. 0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:17.959 I heard the rumor is there's like a fee. There's 0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:21.879 like twenty thirty forty fifty thousand dollars they can pay 0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:26.879 a recruit. If so, say you're say you're Alabama, can 0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:31.120 you want to give a recruit fifty thousand dollars a 0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:35.880 school outside of the state of Alabama. The gentleman's handshake 0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:38.200 is like Georgia can't come in and pay a dollar 0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:41.279 over fifty thousand, Like they can't. They can't outdo each other. 0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:43.759 If that, if that talent is in the state, so 0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:46.600 the kid grew up in Alabama. Only Alabama can set 0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:50.360 the bar. And these coaches are shoving them money or 0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:51.200 shoving whatever. 0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:52.480 That's crazy and that's. 0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:54.719 How they they all have like a gentleman's agreement on it. 0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:56.520 That pisses me off. Dude, I didn't get it. 0:39:56.719 --> 0:39:58.799 I mean, that's that's all. That's all, that's all a reach, 0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:01.800 that's all. You know, it's stuff I've birds sounded solid 0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:02.280 for sure. 0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:06.800 Who's the quarterback from Georgia that went to Detroit, Matt Stafford. 0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:08.799 I feel like they said, this is all word of mouth, 0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:11.080 this is not even a factual. Yeah right, yeah, the 0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:12.920 word the word I heard was like he had like 0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:17.239 five hundred thousand dollars sitting in his uh his mailbox 0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:19.160 outside of his house if if he was gonna stay, 0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:21.279 if he stayed, he get kept it. But then he 0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:22.880 had to be like the number one overall pick. He's like, 0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:28.799 yeah's way more money. It's just crazy, dude. It's crazy 0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:30.520 people do anything that their teams win all that stuff 0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:32.520 to have it at old miss, Like how do you 0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:34.600 get the number one receive of the number one tackle? 0:40:34.640 --> 0:40:36.600 The number one blah blah blah, like neverber one defensive 0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:39.800 end to Old Miss. 0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:40.960 Apparently that was stuff with the word. They went over 0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:43.440 that a little bit and those other schools like there 0:40:43.480 --> 0:40:46.120 were people way behind the scenes. 0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:49.920 They got and they got Laquantra Will and. 0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:52.920 They got Larry tunseel To. I Thinkry is from like 0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:53.920 Chicago or something like. 0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:57.000 That, and like so I think there's like a high 0:40:57.040 --> 0:41:00.120 four five star that Vanderbilt got over the last sh 0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:02.920 I think he was a BACKERDPS and Coach Topson was 0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:04.480 telling me about it. I asked that question, like, how 0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:08.760 do you get somebody like that over Bamas, the Bamas 0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:10.600 of the world, the SEC schools that come in. He 0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:13.160 was offered by everybody, and he was like, well, he 0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:15.319 comes from a Nigerian family, so when his parents come, 0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:17.560 like you recruit the family, you recruit the parents, but 0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:21.480 the parents from that kind of culture background, they and 0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:24.759 they strictly want education. Like that's where Vandy will win. 0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:27.319 So when you go when you talk about the whole 0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:30.080 quality over the what the picture looks like, You're never 0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:32.319 going to really be or have all these facilities that 0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:34.200 these other schools are going to have because Vanderbilt is 0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:36.600 so you know, it's hard to get into. Man, Yeah, 0:41:36.640 --> 0:41:39.080 you know, they can't throw loopholes in there like the 0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:40.839 other teams can, like, hey, we can get your kid 0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:43.520 in school. Like, no, the academics do not. It's not 0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:46.960 the same level of they don't perceive it the same. 0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:48.960 The academic side doesn't look at the football site and say, hey, 0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:50.640 we're going to do everything we can help you. They're like, no, 0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:52.920 we have a standard. These full players are recruit they 0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:54.480 better meet the standard. They're not getting in well. 0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:56.520 And I think Vanderbilt is the most representative of real 0:41:56.560 --> 0:41:58.160 life is too. Like when I went to Vanderbilt and 0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:00.760 I got on campus, nobody cared about who I was. Okay, 0:42:00.760 --> 0:42:02.360 when you go into the real world, nobody's gonna care 0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:03.680 about who you are. You got to go work your 0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:06.560 butt off, okay. And then even my senior year, like 0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:09.279 when people knew me, they still were like, Okay, what 0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:10.879 are you going to do next? You know, it wasn't 0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:12.439 like I had friends that went to Alabama the first 0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:16.120 day on campus fifty thousand Twitter followers and all a's 0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:18.919 and all your classes, Like, real life's not like that, yeah, 0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:20.879 you know, And so Vannerbil taught me a ton of that, 0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:22.799 you know. And I think but like I said, I 0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:24.640 really think the biggest thing is, you know, when you're 0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:27.080 recruiting these kids, especially in their when like I said, 0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:29.480 when we're recruiting their parents, I'm always saying, like we 0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:31.160 need to focus on the things that these kids can 0:42:31.200 --> 0:42:33.120 take with them, Like if you have a kid, facilitate 0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:36.160 a healthy lifestyle and understand recovery, understand his body, and 0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:38.160 then send them off with a good education, he can 0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:38.920 actually use that. 0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:40.839 You go to these schools and they're trying to sell 0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:42.000 you on a jersey. 0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:43.800 In the stadium, you can't take that with you, you know, 0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:45.879 or what's that jersey going to mean to you once 0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:46.279 you leave? 0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:48.359 You You can always play on the fact that these 0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:51.000 kids want to go to the NFL exactly. And and 0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:53.279 if you if you have a hard enough push, Hey 0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:54.799 you got the height, you got to this, you got to that, 0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:56.799 blah blah blah, you got the speed. But you can 0:42:56.840 --> 0:42:58.600 you can get kids to buy into that stuff meet 0:42:58.600 --> 0:43:02.200 Like like for me, I never had a I never 0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:03.719 had a plan B of like anything. When I got 0:43:03.719 --> 0:43:06.800 offered by Utah State going into my senior year, I 0:43:06.920 --> 0:43:09.680 was like, uh, like my coach on my assim, some 0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:12.279 guy Utah State guy like I transferred schools to play 0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:14.440 offensive line, and so I didn't have any offers my 0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:16.440 junior Usually you have your your office, you pretty much 0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:18.840 have like your you committed by your junior year. So 0:43:18.880 --> 0:43:20.960 I'm going into my senior year with zero offers and 0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:23.480 this Utah State guy comes up to me and say, hey, man, 0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:25.080 we'd be lucky to have you blah blah blah, like 0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:27.440 kind of like super casual, and he walked away and 0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:28.719 I kind was going to buy my business. My the 0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:32.560 head coach is like, hey, you're they offered you and 0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:35.480 I was like, I'm going to the NFL. And They're like, 0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:37.520 well no. I was like, no, no, no, I'm going to. 0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:40.080 The NFL's I'm believable, Utah State, Utah. 0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:44.359 State, the acts. But I say that because like, dude, 0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:47.200 you could like for me. That was my my thought. 0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:49.240 I was like, yo, I'm going to the NFL. That's insane, 0:43:49.800 --> 0:43:51.759 and like I now, it doesn't matter where I go, 0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:53.840 doesn't matter what I do. I walked in to school 0:43:53.880 --> 0:43:55.160 and I was like like, what do you want to 0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:57.560 do after college? And I was like, well, I'm going 0:43:57.560 --> 0:43:59.799 to the NFL. So it was myt like well, you know, 0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:04.200 just I'm general studies. I'm doing general studies and I 0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:08.160 was a two point But looking back in it, looking 0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:10.960 back in that whole thing was, Uh, if I could 0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:12.719 have done more in college, I would have. I would have. 0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:14.680 I would say, well, what we got going on here 0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:17.640 is that you dude, you disrespecting the bus right now? 0:44:17.680 --> 0:44:20.000 No, I wasn't respecting the bus now I was. I 0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:22.279 don't even know why that alarm is on. I have 0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:25.040 no idea why. 0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:26.799 I don't know why that alarm was on, but I 0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:29.239 gotta go. Nah, I'm here, Yeah, but I got to 0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:30.759 get out of here. I know we're wrapping it up 0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:33.440 in a little bit. Anyway, It's all good. But like, uh, 0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:36.600 I definitely think when you're seventeen years old, like you had, 0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:37.960 you have a great head and shot, you had a 0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:40.759 great home life. That is, you're super blessed to have 0:44:40.800 --> 0:44:42.880 all that stuff. But a lot of kids don't have that. 0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:44.800 A lot of football is their way out and everything. 0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:45.080 Right. 0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:46.600 But I think also, I will say this though, the 0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:49.120 tides shifting a little bit because kids have more access 0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:50.400 to things they didn't know about before. 0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:51.920 Social media is changing a ton of. 0:44:51.840 --> 0:44:54.960 Stuff, Like kids are like really on their phones, like 0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:56.719 trying to figure out how to start like a business 0:44:56.960 --> 0:44:59.239 right now, to gain notoriety into game thing. 0:44:59.600 --> 0:45:00.560 Well, we're growing up. 0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:03.960 The only things we saw were TV actors and athletes 0:45:04.040 --> 0:45:07.640 and rock stars. So I think we were more inclined 0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:10.480 to think, if we're in corporate America, that's boring, and 0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:13.600 if we go to the pros or entertainment, that's fun. 0:45:14.160 --> 0:45:16.120 You know, you never thought once about like I'm going 0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:18.200 to have a you know, inser or a YouTube channel 0:45:18.280 --> 0:45:19.680 or any of this. Like you just kind of were like, 0:45:19.840 --> 0:45:21.560 what do you want to be a own a baseball player? 0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:24.960 And that was it exactly. And so I think there's 0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:28.040 more information out there. And I'm telling you, like being 0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:32.120 in being in Santa Clara has showed me why because 0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:37.040 think about Stanford exactly. Stanford's extremely successful on the West 0:45:37.080 --> 0:45:39.720 Coast right right. And the reason why is because education 0:45:40.000 --> 0:45:43.600 is actually like really uplifted in the West Coast like that, 0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:46.800 like being around tech and starting your own. 0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:48.319 Business deal that's a huge deal. 0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:51.520 So when kids get a scholarship from Stanford, that's like 0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:53.880 the golden ticket. Okay, now I can do both. I 0:45:53.920 --> 0:45:56.279 can start my podcast, I can start my business and 0:45:56.440 --> 0:46:00.439 shout out, and I can also go to the play 0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:04.879 against USC Organ. Well, we're still making that ground in 0:46:05.160 --> 0:46:07.480 Vanderbilt because I still feel like you're still recruiting AAST, 0:46:07.480 --> 0:46:11.840 like I said, Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, do whatever. But 0:46:11.880 --> 0:46:13.920 at the same time, I think that that tide is 0:46:13.920 --> 0:46:15.960 going to start to shift, and I'm just saying, like, 0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:18.360 I think Vanderbilt's got to do our best to be 0:46:18.520 --> 0:46:20.120 as ahead of that it's possible, and I think we 0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:22.280 are doing that. But like I said, man, I feel 0:46:22.280 --> 0:46:25.839 like if we major in the things that truly matter, 0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:27.640 and it's going to be the things that matter to 0:46:27.760 --> 0:46:30.040 the parents when they come on campus, and the kids 0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:31.920 that will actually be able to come to Vanderbilt and 0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:34.320 actually like, really like the culture. 0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:35.960 And engage into it, I think we'll be just fine. 0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:36.120 Man. 0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:38.680 I think I think education you're in NFL locker rooms, 0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:40.480 guys are talking about money now. 0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:43.920 Guys outside a Definitely, the guys take a lot of 0:46:43.960 --> 0:46:46.080 pride in the businesses that they're in, exactly what they're 0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:48.279 investing in, stuff like that, and I think there's I mean, 0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:49.919 there's a double edged sword when it comes to social 0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:52.400 media because you have these kids that they'll just go 0:46:52.480 --> 0:46:54.880 on the latest trends, like kind of like you know, 0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:57.719 like growing up watching Jackass or Cky, like you'd watch 0:46:57.840 --> 0:46:59.400 us and maybe be like, please do not reperform these 0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:02.360 stunts all and be like I'm gonna do it anyway. 0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:05.919 This stuff like, well, now it's like you got these 0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:08.640 crazy kids out there doing like the next cool thing. 0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:10.560 First was the dab, then was this and that, and 0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:12.799 everyone's trying to repeat everything. Twelve year old white kids 0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:17.840 ruin everything, like they ruin every dance, but they butchered 0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:21.759 the whole thing they do that that this thing right here, yeah, aame, 0:47:24.560 --> 0:47:25.200 that's where you look. 0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:27.880 These little white kids are in stands doing the Fortnite dances. 0:47:29.000 --> 0:47:31.239 I think the thing. The coolest thing though, like like 0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:32.920 growing up in the nineties or the early two thousands 0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:35.560 compared to now, is you do have that outlet to say, 0:47:35.600 --> 0:47:37.600 like I could really be whatever I want and no 0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:39.920 one's gonna go, well, sell insurance. No one wants to. 0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:41.879 No one wants to sell insurance. And somebody's listening. Who 0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:44.120 sells insurance? You don't want to, you know what I'm saying, 0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:46.799 Like you everybody has a dream and at some point 0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:49.040 they were told that, well it's not realistic. You can't 0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:51.319 be an artist because well, artists only really make money 0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:52.799 when they're dead, you know what I'm saying. Then they 0:47:52.800 --> 0:47:54.799 all of a sudden get famous, start sells like it 0:47:54.800 --> 0:47:56.799 gives you opportunity, like you can display that and all 0:47:56.800 --> 0:47:59.399 it takes is one person to click retweet and then 0:47:59.440 --> 0:48:01.200 one of those people say, holies, that's actually pretty fun 0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:02.880 cool and may click retweet on that, and then you 0:48:02.920 --> 0:48:05.600 get dudes like you know, with millions of followers retweet 0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:07.719 that thing, and that that's easily blown up, and all 0:48:07.760 --> 0:48:09.120 of a sudden you have a business without. 0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:11.560 Even trying exactly it's it's it's huge. 0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:13.719 It opens it opens up a lot of gateways. I 0:48:13.760 --> 0:48:16.080 just really hope people use it as an opportunity instead 0:48:16.080 --> 0:48:18.040 of just an opportunity be like five minutes famous, Like, 0:48:18.239 --> 0:48:19.719 use it as an opportunity. 0:48:19.200 --> 0:48:21.319 To really span and grow, to. 0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:23.960 Create, expand grow and use it not to just look 0:48:24.000 --> 0:48:27.960 at girls hooking using their their bikinis on and top 0:48:28.040 --> 0:48:29.960 like that. Don't look at it, like, look at stuff 0:48:29.960 --> 0:48:33.600 that's getting expand your horizon of what do I like? 0:48:33.600 --> 0:48:35.480 What do I not like? Those those are the types 0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:38.560 of things that are really going to make like this 0:48:38.760 --> 0:48:41.600 generation that these millennials or whatever the hell we are, like, 0:48:41.760 --> 0:48:43.279 it's going to make us like take us into the 0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:45.960 atmosphere of you know, being your own person and being 0:48:45.960 --> 0:48:48.480 able to be a unique individual. That's that's that's something 0:48:48.520 --> 0:48:51.040 that starts to being that started to be celebrated as 0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:53.759 being unique, when before it was like, hey, just fall 0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:57.359 in line, right, you know, you be your suppressed. Yeah, 0:48:57.440 --> 0:48:59.080 you be at recess as a five year old, like 0:48:59.160 --> 0:49:01.360 going to pe or fitness whatever you called it, and 0:49:01.440 --> 0:49:02.719 you call the hair star. You have to stay at 0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:05.120 the next person's hair and march to the next place 0:49:05.160 --> 0:49:08.640 you're going. And now like people are more free express That's. 0:49:08.560 --> 0:49:10.359 What I'm saying, bro, And think about that, like like 0:49:10.480 --> 0:49:12.920 everything you're saying, Like, when you're trying to do that 0:49:13.000 --> 0:49:14.799 and tap into something, you gotta go into a place 0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:16.640 where there's a ton of resources. Look how many resources 0:49:16.640 --> 0:49:19.160 are in Nashville. There's a ton. It's a large, large 0:49:19.160 --> 0:49:22.560 community here. I mean, look, you go a Tuscaloosa. If 0:49:22.600 --> 0:49:24.240 you don't get out balling, what you're gonna. 0:49:24.080 --> 0:49:24.919 Do in Tuscalusa? 0:49:25.160 --> 0:49:25.480 Nothing? 0:49:25.880 --> 0:49:28.160 And also exactly and then even hearing you say this, 0:49:28.440 --> 0:49:30.680 you have a son or daughter, daughter, you have a 0:49:30.680 --> 0:49:31.319 two year old daughter. 0:49:31.400 --> 0:49:33.160 So let's say you have a son and later on, 0:49:33.320 --> 0:49:33.920 like there's. 0:49:33.760 --> 0:49:36.440 Stuff that you know about posts that you're gonna know 0:49:36.480 --> 0:49:40.040 about post football, that if somebody came to you from 0:49:40.080 --> 0:49:42.799 a school like Vanderbilt and says that, like, bro, you 0:49:42.880 --> 0:49:45.680 know the truth, your son's probably gonna have the ability to. 0:49:45.640 --> 0:49:47.560 Go out and be just as good as all these kids. 0:49:47.560 --> 0:49:49.680 These are schools, but he's gonna want that extra thing 0:49:49.719 --> 0:49:52.120 in his hand that's gonna help him post. We just 0:49:52.160 --> 0:49:54.759 got Kenyon Martin's son on the basketball team, and we 0:49:54.800 --> 0:49:57.279 got Scottie Pippen. I guarantee they got recruited because they 0:49:57.320 --> 0:49:58.880 both have dads that play in the pros that know 0:49:58.880 --> 0:49:59.760 there's more to basketball. 0:49:59.800 --> 0:49:59.920 You know. 0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:02.120 Crazy thing that you mentioned that and I really haven't 0:50:02.120 --> 0:50:03.880 thought about that until you just mentioned it is I 0:50:03.920 --> 0:50:06.160 never even thought about my kids playing sports. I just 0:50:06.200 --> 0:50:08.279 felt like, like, whatever they want to do, I got 0:50:08.320 --> 0:50:09.880 to figure out a way to connect with them in 0:50:09.880 --> 0:50:12.640 that way. Like that's that's that's my fear is, Like 0:50:13.480 --> 0:50:15.960 you know, if my kid is you know, wants to 0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:17.239 be an artist, I don't. 0:50:17.520 --> 0:50:18.200 I don't have an. 0:50:18.120 --> 0:50:19.880 Artistic bone in my pocket as far as like painting. 0:50:19.880 --> 0:50:22.279 I can't paint shit. My brother can paint, but like 0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:24.359 to be able to how do I go and how 0:50:24.360 --> 0:50:26.759 do I like have a relationship with him in that way? 0:50:26.800 --> 0:50:28.799 Because the only thing I'm used I've been playing sports 0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:30.560 since I was five years old, probably earlier than that, 0:50:30.600 --> 0:50:32.680 but like what I remember, you know what I'm saying, organized, 0:50:33.200 --> 0:50:36.120 And so it's like, how do you go? Like you said, 0:50:36.120 --> 0:50:37.839 you mean you might be on the background, I had 0:50:37.880 --> 0:50:40.040 about ten or fifteen years left in me, but I'm saying, 0:50:40.040 --> 0:50:42.359 like love when I am done, Like that's all I'm 0:50:42.360 --> 0:50:44.480 going to know is sports, right, And so I'm I'm 0:50:44.520 --> 0:50:47.279 trying to diversify myself now, doing new things, trying new 0:50:47.280 --> 0:50:49.359 stuff just to see if I like it. So when 0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:51.160 my kids are an old enough age, any kind of 0:50:51.239 --> 0:50:53.360 route they go, I know that I don't need to 0:50:53.360 --> 0:50:56.359 be overbearing, but I can at least figure out, like 0:50:56.480 --> 0:50:57.960 how do I relate to them in whatever way? 0:50:58.160 --> 0:50:59.680 And I think the thing too, though, that you speak 0:50:59.719 --> 0:51:01.399 to me and like you have obviously like the fact 0:51:01.440 --> 0:51:03.560 you have great work ethic, you're disciplined, and that you 0:51:03.600 --> 0:51:06.279 try new things. Those are characteristics that even if I said, Okay, 0:51:06.320 --> 0:51:07.280 I want to be an artist. 0:51:07.600 --> 0:51:08.520 If I work hard. 0:51:08.400 --> 0:51:10.279 I'm dedicating, I like to try new things, I'm going 0:51:10.360 --> 0:51:11.879 to be successful if I want to be a doctor, 0:51:11.960 --> 0:51:13.960 and I take that same approach. So I think one 0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:15.799 thing you definitely don't got to be nervous about is 0:51:15.840 --> 0:51:16.600 the principles and. 0:51:16.600 --> 0:51:17.839 The characters already there. 0:51:17.960 --> 0:51:19.799 So even if your child were to do something that 0:51:19.840 --> 0:51:22.800 you don't completely understand, I think those building blocks in 0:51:22.840 --> 0:51:26.040 that foundation, it's going to help them still be successful. 0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:27.520 Because, yeah, I worry about the same thing. 0:51:27.560 --> 0:51:30.200 Man, Like my wife's professional athlete, you know, so we 0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:33.400 have the son. Everybody's like, he's definitely going to. 0:51:33.400 --> 0:51:36.239 Be when you said I was a pro athlete. 0:51:36.000 --> 0:51:39.080 Yeah, exactly, that's what That's what everybody thinks exactly. And 0:51:39.120 --> 0:51:42.520 I would even say, personally, I'm inclined to be like, oh, 0:51:42.560 --> 0:51:44.160 he's definitely probably play sports two. 0:51:44.480 --> 0:51:48.080 But he has his little piano. He loves playing that piano. 0:51:50.200 --> 0:51:50.319 That. 0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:55.040 But but if. 0:51:54.920 --> 0:51:56.520 He wanted to do that, and like I said, I 0:51:56.520 --> 0:51:58.520 stopped playing piano when I was like twelve, there's like 0:51:58.520 --> 0:52:00.839 really nothing I can really give him that I would 0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:03.279 still say, Man, you know what, though, one thing I 0:52:03.320 --> 0:52:05.520 would say, there's a couple of things I definitely live 0:52:05.560 --> 0:52:10.080 by relationships. I believe the relationships more than anything more matter. 0:52:10.200 --> 0:52:12.200 If you're going to try and be successful, I believe 0:52:12.239 --> 0:52:14.279 you got to do more than what's required. Like, if 0:52:14.280 --> 0:52:16.880 you only do what's required, you're never going to be great. 0:52:17.320 --> 0:52:20.319 You know, if if Vanderbilt in Alabama work out an 0:52:20.320 --> 0:52:22.840 hour thirty minutes a day, we're gonna lose every single time. 0:52:23.000 --> 0:52:24.399 So you got to put in more time if you're 0:52:24.400 --> 0:52:27.439 gonna catch you hate Alabama, Yeah, yeah, I'm from there. 0:52:27.440 --> 0:52:29.359 You know, didn't get a letter, so it's all good. 0:52:29.360 --> 0:52:33.600 I'm gonna keep jabby. But yeah, so obviously do that. 0:52:33.640 --> 0:52:35.880 And then obviously I've always told people man like like 0:52:35.880 --> 0:52:38.319 like nobody cares, Like I'm gonna tell my son. I'm 0:52:38.320 --> 0:52:40.160 gonna tell my son when he gets older. Like if 0:52:40.160 --> 0:52:42.040 you want to have a pity party, understand this. Eighty 0:52:42.080 --> 0:52:44.440 percent of people don't care about your problems, and twenty 0:52:44.440 --> 0:52:44.959 percent are. 0:52:44.840 --> 0:52:46.920 Glad you have them, so you be better off. 0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:49.600 Like, whenever you're going through something, just to go ahead 0:52:49.680 --> 0:52:52.080 internalize it. You know, if you need, if you need 0:52:52.080 --> 0:52:54.040 to shed some tears, shed your tears, you need to 0:52:54.040 --> 0:52:56.880 get back to work. And so like those principles have 0:52:57.040 --> 0:53:00.239 nothing to do with strictly football, absolutely. 0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:02.000 Because so that those people are losing sleep exactly. 0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:03.759 You're you're the one going to ben thinking about what 0:53:03.760 --> 0:53:06.319 everybody's saying about you. They're saying whatever, and really they 0:53:06.360 --> 0:53:07.759 don't even care as much as you think that no 0:53:07.840 --> 0:53:10.040 one gives a about it, and they're they're sleeping just fine. 0:53:10.080 --> 0:53:12.000 So you're a slave in your own mind thinking that 0:53:12.040 --> 0:53:14.560 people care about you that kind of you know, that 0:53:14.600 --> 0:53:16.240 kind of magnifying glass exactly. 0:53:16.360 --> 0:53:17.840 So, so I'm like, yeah, you want to go do 0:53:18.160 --> 0:53:20.879 real estate. Take those same principles right, not caring about 0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:24.080 what people think, you know, caring about like as far 0:53:24.080 --> 0:53:26.919 as the relationships your own personal ones and your family, uh, 0:53:26.960 --> 0:53:29.359 communities that you actually stay in, and then also doing 0:53:29.360 --> 0:53:31.880 more than what's required, like do some overtime, be the 0:53:31.880 --> 0:53:33.719 first one in the building, don't be afraid to work 0:53:33.760 --> 0:53:35.960 hard and see how great you can be, and then 0:53:36.040 --> 0:53:37.120 let the chips fall where they may. 0:53:37.200 --> 0:53:40.279 Yeah, Vanderbilt needs to do something with you. Dude, you're 0:53:40.320 --> 0:53:42.360 like a You're like a walking billboard for those boys. 0:53:42.400 --> 0:53:45.640 Do all of a job. What do you want you 0:53:45.640 --> 0:53:46.759 want to be? You want to be an a d h. 0:53:46.880 --> 0:53:48.560 You were talking about one of maybe be an a D. 0:53:48.600 --> 0:53:49.160 You know, we'll see. 0:53:49.200 --> 0:53:49.319 Man. 0:53:49.440 --> 0:53:51.120 I really I've got a lot of respect and love 0:53:51.160 --> 0:53:53.200 for Michael Turner, the new AD that just got hired. 0:53:53.239 --> 0:53:55.719 People know that had a really great, really good relationship 0:53:55.719 --> 0:53:58.880 with David Williams, the old a D. And so, you know, 0:53:58.920 --> 0:54:01.200 I kind of want to see from top. Malcolm's been 0:54:01.280 --> 0:54:03.080 nice enough to let me come and speak to him 0:54:03.080 --> 0:54:04.680 on a couple of occasions. He's gonna give me an 0:54:04.719 --> 0:54:07.600 opportunity next offseason to kind of just walk around and 0:54:07.640 --> 0:54:10.000 let him see, let me see from the top, like 0:54:10.239 --> 0:54:13.799 what sports administration looks like for him and for that 0:54:13.840 --> 0:54:15.840 type of career and stuff. What does it take, What 0:54:15.920 --> 0:54:17.799 kind of degree do you need to get? I have 0:54:17.880 --> 0:54:18.720 to go back to school. 0:54:18.800 --> 0:54:20.800 I just kind of want to just learn from that space. 0:54:21.160 --> 0:54:23.719 And then more so I think after that, just kind 0:54:23.760 --> 0:54:25.600 of figure out where I kind of fit in and 0:54:25.800 --> 0:54:27.359 I kind of want to go about my next career. 0:54:27.400 --> 0:54:29.319 By know, I wanted to be a Vanderbilt and I 0:54:29.360 --> 0:54:31.160 know I want to be in direct conjunction with the 0:54:31.160 --> 0:54:34.440 football team, like I love I love Vanderbilt football, and 0:54:34.480 --> 0:54:37.600 it's a really complex thing trying to be successful with them. 0:54:37.760 --> 0:54:39.960 So I'm like, man, that's kind of exactly what I 0:54:40.000 --> 0:54:42.440 want to do. My wife loves the city in Nashville. 0:54:42.840 --> 0:54:45.600 My in laws live in Georgia. Sty're like three hours 0:54:45.600 --> 0:54:47.520 from us, and my parents are from Hunsble with Alabama's 0:54:47.520 --> 0:54:49.800 they're like an hour thirty. So it's a perfect central 0:54:49.880 --> 0:54:52.440 location for us to spend time with family. So man, like, 0:54:52.640 --> 0:54:54.520 this is home. Man, we love it, love it to death. 0:54:54.600 --> 0:54:56.399 This podcast is going to be a resume for him, 0:54:56.800 --> 0:54:58.600 Oh easily. We're going to push this stuff to him. 0:54:58.600 --> 0:55:00.680 We're going to give you the content. We're gonna we're 0:55:00.680 --> 0:55:02.880 gonna make everybody aware. I would be just happy with 0:55:02.920 --> 0:55:04.319 a shirt, but I'll take it. Well, you got a 0:55:04.320 --> 0:55:06.239 shirt and it's your birthday, So happy birthday. Thanks for 0:55:06.320 --> 0:55:08.520 dreaking coming on, man, I know you got to get 0:55:08.600 --> 0:55:11.239 rolling somewhere. That's why that alarm went off at No 0:55:11.520 --> 0:55:13.640 even told me, you know, two o'clock. You had to 0:55:13.640 --> 0:55:14.080 be somewhere. 0:55:14.160 --> 0:55:16.640 So actually know when we originally set the call, I 0:55:16.680 --> 0:55:18.840 think it was gonna be at three. That two o'clock 0:55:18.840 --> 0:55:21.680 one wants to be like, hey, like wake up or 0:55:21.840 --> 0:55:24.959 you go whatever you got something to do in an hour? 0:55:25.320 --> 0:55:26.400 Like, so whatever you're doing. 0:55:26.239 --> 0:55:27.520 Stop organized like that. 0:55:27.719 --> 0:55:29.799 Yeah, but but then you won't believe it because I 0:55:29.840 --> 0:55:30.880 was I was a little bit. 0:55:30.920 --> 0:55:37.080 Yeah you dude, No thanks for coming on, man,