WEBVTT - Lots to Say: 2x Super Bowl Champ/Chiefs Trey Smith

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<v Speaker 1>Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is

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<v Speaker 1>a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>We got lots to say.

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<v Speaker 3>We got lost, Just say.

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<v Speaker 4>We're better here and we hope you say because we

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<v Speaker 4>got lost, Just say.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we got lost.

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<v Speaker 6>Just say.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, here's Bobby that question because OTA's are happening now

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<v Speaker 5>and I just listen. I didn't play at the level

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<v Speaker 5>you did, but OTAs for me in high school would

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<v Speaker 5>have been two days back when they could really grind, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>and everybody would just be eating banana, isn't throwing.

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<v Speaker 6>Out Yeah, it's the The world of OTAs has changed

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<v Speaker 6>so dramatically since I was in OTAs because there was

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<v Speaker 6>a lot more physicality to it. And then when the

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<v Speaker 6>new CBA happened, they put so many different restrictions in

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<v Speaker 6>their phases. Right there, phase one where you can only

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<v Speaker 6>be in the building for four hours you're literally working

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<v Speaker 6>out and meeting with your coaches. And then as soon

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<v Speaker 6>as that four hours you have to be out of

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<v Speaker 6>the building. You can't go on the field, can't do anything.

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<v Speaker 6>Then when you get to phase two, it's like on

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<v Speaker 6>the field stuff where you get the practice for up

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<v Speaker 6>to an hour. You have workouts and some meetings, so

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<v Speaker 6>it's a little bit more of an extended time. But

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<v Speaker 6>then OTA's actual starts and you're in there and it's

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<v Speaker 6>more of a full day of just a prep work

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<v Speaker 6>of practice, and I think you have up to fifteen

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<v Speaker 6>OTAs is what it normally is, and so that's when

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<v Speaker 6>it actually becomes more football oriented, where it's team sessions.

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<v Speaker 6>They even will have like these drills. We call it

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<v Speaker 6>nine on seven and it's run fit drills for defense

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<v Speaker 6>and offense. But you're in no pads. You're just in helmets,

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<v Speaker 6>and I think a lot of the guys, particularly in

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<v Speaker 6>the interior part of the offense and defensive line, they

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<v Speaker 6>hate it because you don't really have any pads on

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<v Speaker 6>your shoulder, so but you still have the ability to

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<v Speaker 6>get hit with a helmet on your shoulder, and guys

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<v Speaker 6>are going full blast, and there's some young guys that

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<v Speaker 6>are trying to go out there and prove a point.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I's trying to make the team.

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<v Speaker 6>Trying to make the team right. You always have those

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<v Speaker 6>Johnny tryhards or are just guys that bring a different

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<v Speaker 6>level of intensity. So you've got to bring it each

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<v Speaker 6>and every day. But it's really when you start to

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<v Speaker 6>set the fundamentals for playing the game of football. The

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<v Speaker 6>unfortunate part is you start to see those fundamentals go

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<v Speaker 6>down now in my belief, because dbs aren't allowed to

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<v Speaker 6>press in the offseasons. That's one of the rules. So

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<v Speaker 6>they actually have guidelines to how you can play the

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<v Speaker 6>game of football in the physicality of it.

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<v Speaker 5>So, okay, a couple of things. One is that though,

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<v Speaker 5>to keep people from getting hurt one percent. Ok So,

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<v Speaker 5>as much as we don't see a team round into

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<v Speaker 5>shape maybe until week six or seven when it used

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<v Speaker 5>to be maybe two or three, because they took preseason

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<v Speaker 5>a little more serious there were more games.

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<v Speaker 3>All that though, is to keep players healthier longer.

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<v Speaker 6>That's exactly what the whole premise of what the CBA

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<v Speaker 6>did was to help the longevity of these guys in

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<v Speaker 6>their career and try to take away some of those

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<v Speaker 6>injuries that were happening in the offseason. And so it's

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<v Speaker 6>all guidelines to help the player and it's for the

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<v Speaker 6>players benefit. At the same time, it sometimes will take

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<v Speaker 6>away from getting actually ready to play football. So when

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<v Speaker 6>you get to camp, I mean, that's when the real

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<v Speaker 6>football starts.

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<v Speaker 5>What about the conditioning because you show up, let's say

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<v Speaker 5>you're out of shape.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, is there a lot of throwing up?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, every year, you have guys that get back in

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<v Speaker 6>the offseason. Look, some guys treat offseason it's my off season,

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<v Speaker 6>and then they show up to offseason to get in shape.

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<v Speaker 6>Then there's other guys that go through offseason and it's

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<v Speaker 6>just this progression of getting ready to get into the

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<v Speaker 6>off season. But they come in ready to go in shape.

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<v Speaker 6>But when you get there that first day and they

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<v Speaker 6>go on that first run, and a lot of times

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<v Speaker 6>the strength and conditioning coaches that are trying to prove

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<v Speaker 6>a point, and they'll hit you with gassers the first day,

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<v Speaker 6>which is across the field and back, change the direction,

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<v Speaker 6>and you're on a clock for your rest, and then

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<v Speaker 6>you're running again, and you'll constantly see guys throwing up

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<v Speaker 6>all the time.

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<v Speaker 5>So do they force you to do an x amount

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<v Speaker 5>of conditioning or do they test your condition to see

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<v Speaker 5>where you fall?

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<v Speaker 6>That's a good question. So when you get there for

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<v Speaker 6>the off season, they're not testing your conditioning. Well, I

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<v Speaker 6>think they're always trying to understand where you're at. But

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<v Speaker 6>when you get to the off season, they're kind of

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<v Speaker 6>putting you through different drills and they immediately notice who's

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<v Speaker 6>in shape and who's not. But when you get to

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<v Speaker 6>actual camp, they have a conditioning test, and every team's

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit different. Like when I was in New England,

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<v Speaker 6>we had the skill players ran sixties and it was

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<v Speaker 6>thirty second rest. We had to run twenty sixties with

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<v Speaker 6>a two minute rest at ten. Then all of a

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<v Speaker 6>sudden I got to Kansas City. They did the three

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<v Speaker 6>hundred yard shuttle, which is by far the worst of

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<v Speaker 6>all the conditioning tests because that one hundred hundred, No,

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<v Speaker 6>it's fifty back, fifty back, fifty back. And some coaches

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<v Speaker 6>when I was in Tennessee, Coach Watterson, if you're listening,

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<v Speaker 6>still didn't like you for this. He'd changed it to

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<v Speaker 6>go twenty five back, so it was six times down

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<v Speaker 6>and back. It's brutal and you should see the suffering

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<v Speaker 6>that takes place or some of these big guys. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>there's three hundred and sixty pounds. Should you really have

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<v Speaker 6>to run three hundred yards? I never understood it because

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<v Speaker 6>we play at cardiovascular sport, where you run, you stop,

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<v Speaker 6>hit your breath, you'd go again, right, play after play there,

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<v Speaker 6>it's just a brutal conditioning test. It's all timed and

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<v Speaker 6>if you don't make that, then you're up at six

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<v Speaker 6>am the next day. You're in the building and they're

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<v Speaker 6>putting you through conditioning, getting you ready, and then you

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<v Speaker 6>have to run that conditioning test again again when they

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<v Speaker 6>feel like you're fit.

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<v Speaker 5>So if you're not conditioned and you do not pass

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<v Speaker 5>the test, they will then condition you enough that you

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<v Speaker 5>pass the test. Well, they continue to do it until

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<v Speaker 5>you pass the test.

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<v Speaker 6>They won't let you practice until you pass the test.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's kind of the main thing that almost every

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<v Speaker 6>organization has is if you don't pass that test, then

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<v Speaker 6>you're in and I forget the club. They called it

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<v Speaker 6>in the morning, but you've got to wake up early,

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<v Speaker 6>go in it and they're doing conditioning and then you've

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<v Speaker 6>got to run that test again.

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<v Speaker 5>I was watching the highlights of what I would call

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<v Speaker 5>the French Open in tennis, but I think now it

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<v Speaker 5>has like a name like roll On Get Arrows Classic.

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<v Speaker 3>It's one of the major for me that it was easy.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a French Open and so they played a

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<v Speaker 5>five hour and forty minute match. Unbelievable that Alkaaz And

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<v Speaker 5>again I don't keep up with tennis nearly as close

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<v Speaker 5>as I used to because one of my buddies used

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<v Speaker 5>to play, and he'd play in the French Andy Rottick,

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<v Speaker 5>who's been on the show. It was his worst because

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<v Speaker 5>the clay took a lot of the heat off the

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<v Speaker 5>ball and meaning it was slow, and he was known

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<v Speaker 5>for a very fast serve. So the French you had

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<v Speaker 5>to move well, which is really why an Adull dominated,

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<v Speaker 5>Like he could still hit it well, but he could

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<v Speaker 5>move wonderfully. So they retired na dolls like footprints, and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to mess some of this up, but they

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<v Speaker 5>end up having This is going to be a two

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<v Speaker 5>parter here, but it was a five hour and forty

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<v Speaker 5>minute match, and I was watching Rodick on his podcast

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<v Speaker 5>talk about how tennis players are really some of the

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<v Speaker 5>best athletes because they're doing it by themselves. And basketball

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<v Speaker 5>players they're running back and forth, but they've got other people,

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<v Speaker 5>they got teams, they're set where tennis players.

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<v Speaker 6>Are just going, going, going.

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<v Speaker 5>But it was again almost six hours and he's pointing

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<v Speaker 5>at the clock going almost six hours, and it was

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<v Speaker 5>a crazy comeback, meaning he was down and like the

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<v Speaker 5>fifth said it was like five to one. Don't know

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<v Speaker 5>exactly what it was, but it was one of the

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<v Speaker 5>greatest comebacks ever in major tennis history. And so I

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<v Speaker 5>was thinking about that as far as I think some

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<v Speaker 5>of the great comebacks ever, and I do think of

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<v Speaker 5>And you weren't on the you weren't part of the

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<v Speaker 5>twenty three Patriots Falcons.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I was not. Remember I told you I never

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<v Speaker 6>got a ring, right, Yeah, that's a few episodes, Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>What was your greatest comeback ever?

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<v Speaker 6>Greatest coming and it can be.

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<v Speaker 5>Ever high school? I would say college. We didn't start

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<v Speaker 5>in college. I could be high school or NFL.

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<v Speaker 6>Who needs a certain college when you go to.

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<v Speaker 5>The process exactly high school to the pros, you basically

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<v Speaker 5>were lebron People don't look they don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at you like that going high school to the pros,

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<v Speaker 3>and I.

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<v Speaker 6>Think that's unfair. You know, one of the greatest comebacks

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<v Speaker 6>I can remember. I was in Kansas City. We were

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<v Speaker 6>playing the Indianapolis Colts, and I believe it was second quarter.

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<v Speaker 6>We're down like twenty one to six something like that,

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<v Speaker 6>and that's a pretty significant deficit, even if you have

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<v Speaker 6>a full half to play and we went down scored

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<v Speaker 6>before half to close the gap a little. It might

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<v Speaker 6>even been twenty eight to seven at that point, so

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<v Speaker 6>we went down scored before half, and then we just

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<v Speaker 6>went out in the second half and absolutely changed the tides.

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<v Speaker 6>Momentum kind of switched to us and we started rolling

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit, and then the next thing you know,

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<v Speaker 6>we ended up coming all the way back and I

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<v Speaker 6>think we won that game by three points. But it

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<v Speaker 6>was phenomenal because every possession matters. When you're down like that,

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<v Speaker 6>you can't make those silly mistakes, and you can't punt

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<v Speaker 6>too many times and give the ball back to them

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<v Speaker 6>because they can eat up clock, run out the time,

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<v Speaker 6>do all that. So we just kind of started hitting

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<v Speaker 6>on all cylinders and we started running the ball well,

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<v Speaker 6>but I was throwing the ball, and we came back

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<v Speaker 6>from behind, and it was phenomenal. I mean, And there's

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<v Speaker 6>something special about the locker room when you have a

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<v Speaker 6>come from a hind victory, because everybody has to rally

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<v Speaker 6>together and do their job and do it at a

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<v Speaker 6>high level, but also not blink in the face of

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<v Speaker 6>adversity because you face those things all the time, and

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<v Speaker 6>some of those games just get out of hand and

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<v Speaker 6>you just see it go totally south right. You can't

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<v Speaker 6>come back from that. Guys are sitting there pissed off

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<v Speaker 6>on the sideline and they're in the wrong headspace, but

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<v Speaker 6>guys focused in and then you get into that locker room,

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<v Speaker 6>and especially being on the road, there's something significant about

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<v Speaker 6>being on the road against all odds, chaotic environment, crowds

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<v Speaker 6>against you, and then to come and win that game

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<v Speaker 6>and go in locker room in a celebration in the faces,

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<v Speaker 6>and then to get on that bus. There's no better

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<v Speaker 6>feeling in football.

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<v Speaker 3>In honor of the Rolling Garris. What's it called French

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<v Speaker 3>Open and Rolling Garris?

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<v Speaker 6>Is it?

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<v Speaker 3>They called it open?

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<v Speaker 5>The Spectacular, the no, no, no, I know it's called

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<v Speaker 5>Rolling Garris, but I'm saying that it is a French Open.

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<v Speaker 3>They still call it French Open.

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<v Speaker 5>Some people do both, do okay, Castle and I called

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<v Speaker 5>French Open?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeahah. Have you ever been to a big tennis match?

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<v Speaker 6>I haven't, and I've always wanted to go. I heard

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<v Speaker 6>it's a great environment. I don't think I do well

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<v Speaker 6>there because I'm uncomfortable in silence. So like you know,

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<v Speaker 6>like none of the crowds.

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<v Speaker 5>You do a golf you've ever been to like a

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<v Speaker 5>golf tournament, I have, Okay, it's same, you'll have me

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<v Speaker 5>silent for a minute.

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<v Speaker 6>I went to the Open at LA country Club and

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<v Speaker 6>the US Open, the US Open. Yeah sorry, I mean

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<v Speaker 6>we're talking French Open, the US Up in US Open

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<v Speaker 6>at LA country Club. But they had like those little

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<v Speaker 6>suites that you could sit in. Yeah, it's a full

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<v Speaker 6>on party. It's awesome. And while you have to be

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<v Speaker 6>quiet when you're walking around doing all that and somebody's

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<v Speaker 6>holding up the sign, it was chaotic.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, tennis is interesting because you can't even walk

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<v Speaker 5>in the stadium during a point. Really, they have people

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<v Speaker 5>blocking the exits or the entrances to leave or go

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<v Speaker 5>out because while the point's going, they don't want any

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<v Speaker 5>distraction happening.

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<v Speaker 6>Do They serve beer and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's a normal sporting event ish, just no talking. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I went to if you actually travel with a Rodick

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit to go to his events. So in

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<v Speaker 5>honor of that and honor raft in the Dolls probably

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<v Speaker 5>the second greatest of all time. I think Djokovic took

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<v Speaker 5>it over n Doll. I used to be Federer. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>but I think the doll over took Federal Who cares?

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<v Speaker 5>But I have best lefties of all time because the

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<v Speaker 5>doll is a lefty.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh and you're a lefty. That's true.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's what why I came to mind.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, let's talk my big list of the top nine

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<v Speaker 5>sports lefties of all time. Ready, At nine, I put

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<v Speaker 5>in a doll because I don't give a craft by tennis.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>And at eight I put never Tolova because I don't

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<v Speaker 3>give a craft by tennis.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, that's fair.

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<v Speaker 5>I understand why tennis is awesome, but I personally it's

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<v Speaker 5>like F one. I'm sure there's something to it. I

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<v Speaker 5>give a crap. I don't know enough about it. Wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>raised around it.

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<v Speaker 6>I also love the fact that in tennis you could

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<v Speaker 6>be righty or lefty and you don't really get penalized

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<v Speaker 6>for being lefty. In baseball, you can hit left hand

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<v Speaker 6>and you don't get penalized for that. But you're really

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<v Speaker 6>you can only play first base. It sucks. And have

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<v Speaker 6>you ever have you ever seen a catcher's left handed catcher?

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<v Speaker 5>So in softball for the first time in college softball,

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<v Speaker 5>one of the catchers got hurt at Arkansas and the

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<v Speaker 5>utility player is left handed, and so she got behind

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<v Speaker 5>the plate and caught an inning. Really yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 5>was left handed. I could never catch right you. I

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<v Speaker 5>could only play the outfield, first base.

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<v Speaker 6>Or pitch. That's it. That's it limited. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 6>is a right handed sport. Yeah. And then the other thing.

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<v Speaker 6>I think we had this discussion, but there's never been

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<v Speaker 6>a left handed center. I can't think of one.

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<v Speaker 3>There probably has been in football.

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<v Speaker 6>In football, I've never played with a left handed center.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know that was a thing. A rider or

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<v Speaker 3>left handed center.

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<v Speaker 6>I've never played with. Why would that matter. I have

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<v Speaker 6>no idea how the ball comes up, and I've never

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<v Speaker 6>played with one, so I don't know. But it was

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<v Speaker 6>interesting to me because I was thinking about that. I

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<v Speaker 6>was like, I've never played with a left handed center,

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<v Speaker 6>and you'd think that there would be at least one

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<v Speaker 6>lefty big boy up there that played center before. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't think I would even notice. Yeah, how about that?

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<v Speaker 3>What about soccer?

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<v Speaker 6>Ever? Go to any soccer matches? Know enough about soccer.

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<v Speaker 6>I have been to a soccer match and I forget

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<v Speaker 6>who was playing. It was one of those exhibition games.

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<v Speaker 6>Somebody from Europe came over to play the team from

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<v Speaker 6>New England their professional soccer game. It was awesome because

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<v Speaker 6>the following from the European teams and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>It just those people are so passionate and they bring

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<v Speaker 6>their signs and their jerseys and they're all their different chants,

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<v Speaker 6>so it was it was an incredible experience. Is that

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<v Speaker 6>your Lett Stadium?

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<v Speaker 5>Soccer's lost on me? And I understand why people love it,

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<v Speaker 5>but I wasn't raised around it. So that's why I

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<v Speaker 5>put Messy at seven left footed.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean Messy at seven.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if I again, what a me to

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<v Speaker 5>put a cricket player in there. I don't know about cricket.

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<v Speaker 5>Those guys are pretty skilled, let's I agree. Who also

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<v Speaker 5>skilled brain surgeon? And if I did a left hand

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<v Speaker 5>of brain surgeon, you know what you're talking about?

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<v Speaker 6>Sports?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know them. I have Messy at seven.

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<v Speaker 5>I got a lot of baseball guys Babe, Ruth, Lefty

0:14:16.696 --> 0:14:21.096
<v Speaker 5>and batter overrated or no or just black and white.

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<v Speaker 5>And since it's black and white, we really can't tell.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. I think it's a generational thing. And at his time,

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<v Speaker 6>he was the Michael Jordan, the little bron James, the

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<v Speaker 6>whoever you want, Tom Brady of his time, larger than

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<v Speaker 6>life figure and never look he never looked the part.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's say say that, but the big band Bieno could.

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<v Speaker 5>Crush Randy Johnson. Gosh, was there not a seven foot

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<v Speaker 5>tall cooler shot.

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<v Speaker 6>Of when he hit that pigeon midair and bloated Ken

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<v Speaker 6>Griffey Jr. One of the sweetest things you'll ever see.

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<v Speaker 6>It was just pure joy.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is my hot take as I put Barry

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<v Speaker 3>Bonds in.

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<v Speaker 6>I was there.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Barry Bonds was better at baseball than Michael

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<v Speaker 5>Jordan was at basketball.

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<v Speaker 6>M that is a bold statement. I agree, really bold statement.

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<v Speaker 5>Barry Bonds is the best at a sport that we

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<v Speaker 5>in America have ever seen a ballplayer be at their sport.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I think as a hitter because Jordan was such

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<v Speaker 6>an all around I agree with that. But yes, and

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<v Speaker 6>the games are so dramatically different. So Barry Bonds comes

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<v Speaker 6>up to bat four times every game, Michael Jordan's on

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<v Speaker 6>the court for you know, the duration of it in

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<v Speaker 6>for four quarters. It's just such a different sport. It's

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<v Speaker 6>so hard to compare. But the greatness of Barry Bonds

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<v Speaker 6>and his ability to see pitches and hit the ball

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<v Speaker 6>the way that he did in his hand eye coordination.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it is just remarkable and the way that

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<v Speaker 5>I would compare them, much like generationally, I think you

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<v Speaker 5>can only compare And I think you said this earlier

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<v Speaker 5>athletes to other athletes in their generation, because I think

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<v Speaker 5>it's unfair to put King Gripy Jr.

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<v Speaker 3>Against fab Ruth. They didn't play the technology.

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<v Speaker 6>He was the same pitching, batting, everything else.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think I think you can only compare the

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<v Speaker 5>greats versus the other greats at that time. So Michael Jordan,

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<v Speaker 5>who else was great during Jordan's era, Kim Olajuan kar Malone.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Jordan was far better than those guys, But

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<v Speaker 5>I think Bonds was so much better than the next

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<v Speaker 5>guy up at two uhs.

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<v Speaker 6>Unbelievable because when you had Bonds, you had the Samy

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<v Speaker 6>so so you have the Mark McGuire's. You had all

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<v Speaker 6>these incredible power hitters. But he wasn't just only a

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<v Speaker 6>power hitter. I mean he could hit for average as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 6>They wouldn't throw the ball to him to hit. And

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<v Speaker 6>it's such a good eye, like they he made them

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<v Speaker 6>throw pitches. I think he was one of those guys

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<v Speaker 6>that would lead the league in walks every year. Too.

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<v Speaker 5>He wore all that equipment. You know, he would go

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<v Speaker 5>up and look like a robot covered in armor. And

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<v Speaker 5>the reason he wore so much on his right arm

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<v Speaker 5>was because the only spot they could find a weakness

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<v Speaker 5>was under his arm. Is about half the size of

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<v Speaker 5>the baseball. And you know a lot of players, they

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<v Speaker 5>can find like a whole area imagine nine squared where

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<v Speaker 5>and there's like one, two, three, which of the cold

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<v Speaker 5>areas hot areas, And they could chase those areas with Bonds.

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<v Speaker 5>They said it was half the size of a single

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<v Speaker 5>baseball and it was only under his arm. So he

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<v Speaker 5>wore all that because the people kept throwing under his

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<v Speaker 5>arm whenever they would actually try to throw to him,

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<v Speaker 5>so it kept getting hit in the freaking elbow. So

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<v Speaker 5>I put Bonds as my one of my greatest lefties ever.

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<v Speaker 5>I put James Harden in there in there for basketball players.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, Steve Young, Steve Young, You've got to go

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<v Speaker 5>with Stevie michael Vick left handed.

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<v Speaker 6>You put him at what parted on the list.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, then I just got lost on I just started

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<v Speaker 5>doing numbers because I did have a number, and then

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<v Speaker 5>I just started going, you know, I'm gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 5>And Michael Vick and then at golf had Phil Mickelson.

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<v Speaker 5>Phil Michelson, okay, I can I can dig that.

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<v Speaker 6>And I had Ronda Rowsey in UFC. Oh, she was

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<v Speaker 6>trailblazer man. She she brought all the attention to women

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<v Speaker 6>in the UFC and was a headliner, the first headliner

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<v Speaker 6>right female event, and she consistently sold out crowds and

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<v Speaker 6>till she didn't. But at the same time, nobody could

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<v Speaker 6>beat that girl. I mean, you'd never seen anything that

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<v Speaker 6>everybody would tune in. I would tune in.

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<v Speaker 3>She got so big as a UFC fighter.

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<v Speaker 5>She went to WWE as a female because only brock

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<v Speaker 5>Lessener really had done that successful and said, the other

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<v Speaker 5>guys that tried to like wrestle and go to UFC,

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<v Speaker 5>do you But she was the one to really go

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<v Speaker 5>superstar to superstar as a woman.

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<v Speaker 6>And then the other part is you're like, Ronda, can

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<v Speaker 6>you please take it down? You're seriously hurting me, Like

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<v Speaker 6>the ww wrestlers like, please, oh my god. If you

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<v Speaker 6>if she opened up a real can of web blessing them.

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<v Speaker 6>Can you imagine just like Lesser, dude, oh Brock. We

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<v Speaker 6>went to the one in Nashville. Was it SummerSlam or

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<v Speaker 6>whatever it was, and it was he and Roman Reigns

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<v Speaker 6>were going head to head. And when you actually watch

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<v Speaker 6>proco Lessner get in it, I mean, the guy is

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<v Speaker 6>an absolute monster. And he started like cartoon characters. Oh

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<v Speaker 6>he starts picking him up. But some of those some

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<v Speaker 6>of those moves that you see when they kind of

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<v Speaker 6>help and they jump up rock, Lesser would pick any

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<v Speaker 6>man up and just ruin them.

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<v Speaker 3>Are your stats for your comeback? Four touchdowns, two hundred

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<v Speaker 3>fifty yards.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll take it. Let's go, good day. Dwayne Bow made

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<v Speaker 6>an incredible catch too. I underthrew the hell out of

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<v Speaker 6>a fade rout and he went up, tipped the ball up,

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<v Speaker 6>tip the ball up, got it. I was like, yes,

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<v Speaker 6>thank you, Dwayne. That's legit, that's legit.

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<v Speaker 3>He seemed like a big body dude.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh dude, he was a beast and I had to

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<v Speaker 6>get used to that because when we were in New England,

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<v Speaker 6>Randy was a big body dude. But Randy would beat

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<v Speaker 6>you with speed down the field right, and Dwayne was

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<v Speaker 6>a big body dude. But at the same time, bo

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<v Speaker 6>would run and if he got even he was ready

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<v Speaker 6>for that backshore because he'd love to go up and

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<v Speaker 6>use his body and protect the ball and go up

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<v Speaker 6>and get it. So we got really good at throwing

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<v Speaker 6>that back shore. So as soon as I found out

0:19:52.776 --> 0:19:54.656
<v Speaker 6>that a dB wasn't going to look back and track

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<v Speaker 6>the ball, I was going to get that ball out

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<v Speaker 6>of my hands as coy as I could, and he

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<v Speaker 6>would attack it because he was just a big target.

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<v Speaker 3>Another play that never seems to work is that fade

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<v Speaker 3>from the two yard line.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a tough play, especially if you're in shotgun, because

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<v Speaker 6>it's such a quick reaction play. You usually don't get

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<v Speaker 6>the laces, and a lot of these guys at the

0:20:14.215 --> 0:20:19.015
<v Speaker 6>wide receiver position sometimes they're not patient enough. So the

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<v Speaker 6>biggest part of running that from a detail orient standpoint

0:20:22.936 --> 0:20:24.656
<v Speaker 6>is you have to close cushion because a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>those those dbs will sit at like that one to

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<v Speaker 6>two yards in the end zone, so they're reacting to you.

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<v Speaker 6>But you've got to go down and give them like

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<v Speaker 6>two or three stutter steps because now you can go

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<v Speaker 6>in and cross their face. But then you also give

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<v Speaker 6>the quarterback the ability to grab that ball, especially in shotgun,

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<v Speaker 6>and then put it back there because a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>times it's just so rushed and the dB can close

0:20:45.936 --> 0:20:47.975
<v Speaker 6>cushion on you. But if you go down, get to

0:20:48.056 --> 0:20:49.656
<v Speaker 6>them to where you give them that two way go

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<v Speaker 6>and then be patient with it, then it gives you

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<v Speaker 6>the ability to throw that ball up over the top.

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<v Speaker 3>They find close cushion.

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<v Speaker 6>So when I say close cushion, there's that little cushion

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<v Speaker 6>that they have. When I said that, there were say

0:21:00.576 --> 0:21:02.096
<v Speaker 6>we're at the two yard line, they're going to sit

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<v Speaker 6>about that one yards deep into the end zone. You

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<v Speaker 6>need to get on their toes and threaten them right

0:21:07.616 --> 0:21:09.735
<v Speaker 6>now because they don't know whether you're going to run

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<v Speaker 6>in or run by them. But if you just you

0:21:12.975 --> 0:21:15.215
<v Speaker 6>kind of close cushion, but or you take your step

0:21:15.296 --> 0:21:17.296
<v Speaker 6>too far away, that guy just drives you to the

0:21:17.376 --> 0:21:20.496
<v Speaker 6>sideline because he's reacting to that. But if you close

0:21:20.576 --> 0:21:23.936
<v Speaker 6>cushion and make him stop his to him, get to him,

0:21:23.975 --> 0:21:28.056
<v Speaker 6>stop his feet. Now when you excel accelerate to go

0:21:28.176 --> 0:21:30.735
<v Speaker 6>to the back end line, now I can throw it

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<v Speaker 6>up over the top end you've got a step. But

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<v Speaker 6>if you do it too quick or you give it away.

0:21:34.735 --> 0:21:37.535
<v Speaker 6>Now that those dbs are so reactionary that they can

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<v Speaker 6>close and play hands and get the ball.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you like if it was fourth or fourth and one,

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<v Speaker 5>fourth and two that they'd call the fade in the corner?

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<v Speaker 6>You know there was fourth and two. I would rather

0:21:48.256 --> 0:21:50.536
<v Speaker 6>have a concept to where you've got an over under,

0:21:50.576 --> 0:21:51.975
<v Speaker 6>and now it's based on the team because a lot

0:21:52.016 --> 0:21:53.936
<v Speaker 6>of times when you're down on the red zone, it's

0:21:53.975 --> 0:21:56.615
<v Speaker 6>either max pressure or max coverage, and so we'd call

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<v Speaker 6>two plays in the huddle. So we'd have our combination

0:21:59.056 --> 0:22:01.455
<v Speaker 6>route where it's a tight end on a shallow cross,

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<v Speaker 6>and then you've got the back end line because you're

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<v Speaker 6>either throwing low on the front or high in the back,

0:22:06.336 --> 0:22:08.896
<v Speaker 6>so you're trying to get that dB and see what

0:22:09.056 --> 0:22:10.855
<v Speaker 6>he's going to do. That safety usually if they're too

0:22:10.936 --> 0:22:13.575
<v Speaker 6>high and they're in coverage to come up on your

0:22:13.576 --> 0:22:15.775
<v Speaker 6>shallow cross because he's got coverage on him. As soon

0:22:15.816 --> 0:22:17.496
<v Speaker 6>as he does that, you're throwing high over his head

0:22:17.495 --> 0:22:19.696
<v Speaker 6>in the back end line, and then you've got another

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<v Speaker 6>concept back. So it's kind of like a progression read.

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<v Speaker 6>But as soon as you see pressure, I have the

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<v Speaker 6>ability to go alert alert, I check to him ex

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<v Speaker 6>protection set the man protection. You're giving a two man

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<v Speaker 6>route here and usually a fade or something on the

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<v Speaker 6>back side, and so you get you pick up your matchup.

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<v Speaker 5>If you're calling two plays in the huddle, are you

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<v Speaker 5>calling one play and saying if we change, we're changing

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<v Speaker 5>to the second play, or like, how does that work?

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<v Speaker 6>So I'd so, for example, i'd call trips right sixty four,

0:22:46.056 --> 0:22:51.055
<v Speaker 6>sticks X and ZD per turn alert, I'd say alert

0:22:51.256 --> 0:22:54.775
<v Speaker 6>eighty and we'd usually like go rock X fade or

0:22:54.856 --> 0:22:57.136
<v Speaker 6>something like that, and that would tell. So if I

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<v Speaker 6>say alert in the huddle, and they already know if

0:22:59.696 --> 0:23:03.056
<v Speaker 6>I say alert, we're not changing formations. We're just changing protection,

0:23:03.495 --> 0:23:05.975
<v Speaker 6>and then that's what we're going to the or the

0:23:06.016 --> 0:23:08.496
<v Speaker 6>two man route is going to be rock and that's

0:23:08.576 --> 0:23:11.095
<v Speaker 6>just a return in a corner, and then the one

0:23:11.176 --> 0:23:13.576
<v Speaker 6>man route, I'll just tag X fade. So as soon

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<v Speaker 6>as I get to line of scrimmage, I'm gonna double

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<v Speaker 6>cadence it. So I'm gonna give you a dummy cadence.

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<v Speaker 6>Blue Lady Blue Dy said hot Hot. Hopefully they show

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<v Speaker 6>me a little indication of what they're gonna do. And

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<v Speaker 6>if I think that they're pressuring I'm going to go.

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<v Speaker 6>I just go alert alert, alert alert. Oh maha, blue goat.

0:23:29.975 --> 0:23:31.896
<v Speaker 6>And everybody should be on the same page because that

0:23:32.056 --> 0:23:35.856
<v Speaker 6>is a rehearsed action that goes that we do time

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<v Speaker 6>and time again in practice.

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<v Speaker 3>How annoying would it be if there was no play

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<v Speaker 3>yet someone still jumped.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, it happens all the time. Oh, you're saying like,

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<v Speaker 6>if you had.

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<v Speaker 3>No play, you are going to go up, And he said,

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<v Speaker 3>use a dummy call.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, so you're not calling anything at first, there's no

0:23:51.936 --> 0:23:53.816
<v Speaker 5>reason to jump because you haven't actually called the play.

0:23:54.416 --> 0:23:57.535
<v Speaker 6>Well, no, the play is sixty four sticks X and

0:23:57.856 --> 0:24:01.616
<v Speaker 6>ZD purturn. If you go, ah huh right, Well, that's

0:24:01.656 --> 0:24:04.616
<v Speaker 6>what gets guys because they sometimes they're in their own worlds.

0:24:05.256 --> 0:24:07.256
<v Speaker 6>And so when you're going up, even if I say

0:24:07.376 --> 0:24:09.296
<v Speaker 6>a double cadence here, or we used to have a

0:24:09.576 --> 0:24:11.936
<v Speaker 6>word called molasses, and I try to come up and

0:24:11.975 --> 0:24:15.096
<v Speaker 6>say momo momo, reminding these guys. But every now and

0:24:15.176 --> 0:24:18.496
<v Speaker 6>then there's movement on the defensive line and there see

0:24:18.576 --> 0:24:20.535
<v Speaker 6>something coming and they jump out of a stance and

0:24:20.616 --> 0:24:22.576
<v Speaker 6>you're like, oh my god. And then that's the worst

0:24:22.656 --> 0:24:25.455
<v Speaker 6>possible right, you're on the two yard line, you do

0:24:25.536 --> 0:24:27.216
<v Speaker 6>a double cadence to try to get them to show

0:24:27.215 --> 0:24:30.136
<v Speaker 6>you something, and then you're five yards further back and you're.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, ah, was there ever grace given to a hold

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<v Speaker 5>because you knew everybody held all the time, or at

0:24:37.776 --> 0:24:40.455
<v Speaker 5>least they could call a hold all the time, or

0:24:40.536 --> 0:24:42.656
<v Speaker 5>were you just irritated every time?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, the worst part about the hold is a

0:24:45.936 --> 0:24:48.856
<v Speaker 6>ten yard penalty, and it's a drive killer every single time.

0:24:49.016 --> 0:24:53.095
<v Speaker 6>And some of these are questionable calls. And the thing

0:24:53.176 --> 0:24:56.256
<v Speaker 6>that hurts the most is when you're driving, say you're

0:24:56.296 --> 0:24:58.056
<v Speaker 6>about midfield or something like that, and you have a

0:24:58.096 --> 0:25:00.856
<v Speaker 6>big play, especially a pass, because I'm selfish and I

0:25:00.936 --> 0:25:03.455
<v Speaker 6>want the passing yards and everything to look good for me. No,

0:25:03.576 --> 0:25:06.296
<v Speaker 6>I'm just kidding. But you get a holding call and

0:25:06.416 --> 0:25:08.856
<v Speaker 6>now you're ten yards back and that whole play is

0:25:08.936 --> 0:25:11.296
<v Speaker 6>taken away, and now you're second and twenty. There's not

0:25:11.336 --> 0:25:13.416
<v Speaker 6>a lot of good calls. I'm telling you, second twenty.

0:25:13.495 --> 0:25:14.896
<v Speaker 6>You're trying to get back on track to get you

0:25:14.975 --> 0:25:17.455
<v Speaker 6>to a manageable third down. But when you're third and twenty,

0:25:17.735 --> 0:25:20.615
<v Speaker 6>you can't hold the ball long enough because all those

0:25:20.656 --> 0:25:23.056
<v Speaker 6>guys have their earspinned back ready to come crush you.

0:25:23.256 --> 0:25:25.775
<v Speaker 5>But are you irritated the lineman for holding or are

0:25:25.856 --> 0:25:28.735
<v Speaker 5>you like, well, any lineman could almost be called for

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<v Speaker 5>a hold at any time.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, it's part of the game. Now, if it's

0:25:32.896 --> 0:25:36.215
<v Speaker 6>something that shows up consistently, then I really don't have

0:25:36.296 --> 0:25:39.416
<v Speaker 6>to say anything. Now. There there's maybe an occasional time,

0:25:39.696 --> 0:25:41.816
<v Speaker 6>particularly in a four minute drill. When you're in a

0:25:41.856 --> 0:25:44.376
<v Speaker 6>four minute drill, what you're trying to do is run

0:25:44.416 --> 0:25:48.015
<v Speaker 6>the ball consistently and take off time, okay, And I

0:25:48.096 --> 0:25:50.296
<v Speaker 6>will tell them when I come in the huddle, I'll say, hey, look,

0:25:50.656 --> 0:25:54.776
<v Speaker 6>no holding, no offsides, Let's just get the ball moving forward.

0:25:54.896 --> 0:25:57.336
<v Speaker 6>Even if we get stopped for a negative game, that's

0:25:57.416 --> 0:25:59.975
<v Speaker 6>fine with us as long as that clock's running. But

0:26:00.536 --> 0:26:02.495
<v Speaker 6>when you have an off sides penalty or you have

0:26:03.136 --> 0:26:05.816
<v Speaker 6>a holding in particular and you're ten yards back, it's

0:26:05.896 --> 0:26:08.056
<v Speaker 6>not so much about the yardage because even if we punt,

0:26:08.096 --> 0:26:11.656
<v Speaker 6>that's okay, it stops the clock, and that's really those

0:26:11.856 --> 0:26:14.016
<v Speaker 6>kind of details of the game, especially when you're trying

0:26:14.056 --> 0:26:15.736
<v Speaker 6>to close out a game, are crucial.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, let's get over and talk with two times Super

0:26:33.136 --> 0:26:37.336
<v Speaker 5>Bowl champion and Kansas City Chief Trey Smith. Trey went

0:26:37.376 --> 0:26:40.455
<v Speaker 5>from a sixth round draft pick starting every game as

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<v Speaker 5>a rookie in twenty.

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<v Speaker 6>Twenty one with the Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 3>Now is one of the best guards in the league easily.

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<v Speaker 5>He's a pro bowler, by the way, at two times

0:26:47.576 --> 0:26:50.735
<v Speaker 5>first team All SEC at Tennessee. Made a cameo in

0:26:50.776 --> 0:26:53.616
<v Speaker 5>a Hamewark movie last year. He also hosts a youth

0:26:53.656 --> 0:26:54.936
<v Speaker 5>football camp at Tennessee every year.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll talk about that as well.

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<v Speaker 5>So big thanks to Trey for coming on here. He

0:26:58.776 --> 0:27:06.536
<v Speaker 5>is Kansas City Chief Great Trey Smith. Hey, Trey, appreciate

0:27:06.616 --> 0:27:09.536
<v Speaker 5>the time. Hey, first off, I should say Jackson, Tennessee's

0:27:09.576 --> 0:27:10.576
<v Speaker 5>own Tray Smith.

0:27:10.656 --> 0:27:15.176
<v Speaker 6>Come on there, Trey. I'm a big fan of yours.

0:27:15.215 --> 0:27:18.056
<v Speaker 6>You've got an incredible story. My first question is what

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<v Speaker 6>was more nerve wracking for you starting your freshman year

0:27:21.776 --> 0:27:25.896
<v Speaker 6>at ut, starting as a rookie for the Chiefs, or

0:27:26.536 --> 0:27:29.735
<v Speaker 6>you know, making that cameo appearance, appearance in the Hallmark movie.

0:27:31.096 --> 0:27:32.856
<v Speaker 2>I would say the Hallmark movie was scary.

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<v Speaker 6>Man.

0:27:33.336 --> 0:27:33.936
<v Speaker 2>I went into it.

0:27:34.016 --> 0:27:35.815
<v Speaker 7>They didn't tell me how to be speaking lines. I'm

0:27:35.856 --> 0:27:37.815
<v Speaker 7>over here thinking, like you know, I'll just be over

0:27:37.856 --> 0:27:40.216
<v Speaker 7>here getting some water by the water cooler in my uniform,

0:27:40.376 --> 0:27:42.455
<v Speaker 7>just in the background of the movie. But you know

0:27:42.576 --> 0:27:44.335
<v Speaker 7>I showed up there. They're like, no, you have these

0:27:44.416 --> 0:27:46.215
<v Speaker 7>lines you have to remember. I'm like, okay, no one

0:27:46.336 --> 0:27:48.576
<v Speaker 7>told me about this. But I would say I was

0:27:48.656 --> 0:27:51.136
<v Speaker 7>nerve racking. But ultimately I would say playing for the Chiefs,

0:27:51.256 --> 0:27:54.896
<v Speaker 7>you know, seven into a winning culture. Blocking for a

0:27:54.975 --> 0:27:57.416
<v Speaker 7>guy like Patrick Mahomes, you know, you're seven to a

0:27:57.536 --> 0:27:59.776
<v Speaker 7>winning atmosphere and a standard that had already been set.

0:27:59.896 --> 0:28:02.015
<v Speaker 7>So I think living up to that as a rookie,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, starting NFL, playing against grown men with family

0:28:05.576 --> 0:28:07.775
<v Speaker 7>and children that depend on them, that was definitely a

0:28:07.776 --> 0:28:08.816
<v Speaker 7>little more nerve racking than me.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to talk about the off season for a second.

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<v Speaker 5>We were just talking with Castle about how some guys

0:28:13.856 --> 0:28:17.015
<v Speaker 5>just take off and some guys slowly get back into it,

0:28:17.056 --> 0:28:19.816
<v Speaker 5>and some guys go hard the entire offseason. At what

0:28:20.056 --> 0:28:23.495
<v Speaker 5>point after the year is finished, do you start to

0:28:23.616 --> 0:28:26.176
<v Speaker 5>get yourself back into shape, to get back into shape?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think Mitchell Schwartz at O Line Masterminds, it's

0:28:32.056 --> 0:28:33.855
<v Speaker 7>an event in the summit that we hold every year

0:28:33.896 --> 0:28:38.816
<v Speaker 7>in Dallas. Offensive linemen from every level Collegiate Pros Hall

0:28:38.816 --> 0:28:40.456
<v Speaker 7>of Fame, you name it. You know, they come and

0:28:40.536 --> 0:28:42.496
<v Speaker 7>give us a little words of wisdoms and tidbits at

0:28:42.576 --> 0:28:45.096
<v Speaker 7>of your game. And I really love what Mitchell Schwartz

0:28:45.136 --> 0:28:47.016
<v Speaker 7>said in terms of stay ready, so you don't have

0:28:47.056 --> 0:28:49.416
<v Speaker 7>to get ready so pretty much year round. You never

0:28:49.536 --> 0:28:51.656
<v Speaker 7>want to get too far out of shape. I would

0:28:51.696 --> 0:28:53.616
<v Speaker 7>say after my rookie year, you know, once the ABC

0:28:53.736 --> 0:28:56.736
<v Speaker 7>Championship game, and you know it's a long time of football.

0:28:56.776 --> 0:28:59.256
<v Speaker 7>You talk about draft prep all the way through the season.

0:28:59.416 --> 0:29:01.656
<v Speaker 7>The longest season I ever had. You know, I felt

0:29:01.696 --> 0:29:03.056
<v Speaker 7>like I wanted to take some time off, and I

0:29:03.096 --> 0:29:05.536
<v Speaker 7>felt like I took too much time off. So for me,

0:29:05.696 --> 0:29:08.056
<v Speaker 7>I try to take about two to three weeks of

0:29:08.256 --> 0:29:12.136
<v Speaker 7>just you know, eating bad, enjoying life, seeing family, but

0:29:12.256 --> 0:29:14.296
<v Speaker 7>then trying to get back into it, doing cardio and

0:29:14.336 --> 0:29:17.176
<v Speaker 7>different things just to keep the body moving and saying

0:29:17.216 --> 0:29:19.536
<v Speaker 7>in decent shape. So I would say every year you

0:29:19.656 --> 0:29:22.256
<v Speaker 7>refine it and you tune it up. For me personally,

0:29:22.616 --> 0:29:24.136
<v Speaker 7>I like it to where I don't get too far

0:29:24.256 --> 0:29:27.056
<v Speaker 7>out there, but every guy's different. That's where it been

0:29:27.096 --> 0:29:27.616
<v Speaker 7>my formula.

0:29:28.056 --> 0:29:30.416
<v Speaker 6>You know, you talked about the draft process, and I

0:29:30.456 --> 0:29:32.456
<v Speaker 6>thought It was pretty interesting because as a four year

0:29:32.496 --> 0:29:36.696
<v Speaker 6>starter at ut and then getting drafted in the sixth round,

0:29:37.296 --> 0:29:39.016
<v Speaker 6>was that something when you got drafted in the sixth

0:29:39.096 --> 0:29:41.376
<v Speaker 6>round coming out you felt like you had something to

0:29:41.456 --> 0:29:43.376
<v Speaker 6>prove or a little chip on your shoulder because of

0:29:43.496 --> 0:29:44.856
<v Speaker 6>the success that you had in college.

0:29:46.176 --> 0:29:47.496
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I definitely did. Man.

0:29:48.376 --> 0:29:50.256
<v Speaker 7>I didn't expect to go that low in the draft,

0:29:50.296 --> 0:29:51.656
<v Speaker 7>but at the end of the day, you know, God

0:29:51.736 --> 0:29:53.936
<v Speaker 7>blessed me with the opportunity. That's all I needed. So

0:29:54.016 --> 0:29:55.575
<v Speaker 7>when I got that one shot, I want to make

0:29:55.616 --> 0:29:58.136
<v Speaker 7>sure it's stuck. I wanted to make sure that teams

0:29:58.176 --> 0:30:00.416
<v Speaker 7>that passed up on me, teams that didn't think the

0:30:00.496 --> 0:30:02.536
<v Speaker 7>juice was worth the squeeze, that I wasn't good enough

0:30:02.576 --> 0:30:04.416
<v Speaker 7>to play for them. I wanted them to feel that

0:30:05.136 --> 0:30:06.656
<v Speaker 7>every single time I stuffed them in the field. And

0:30:06.696 --> 0:30:09.216
<v Speaker 7>I think just as a competitor, just having that nature

0:30:09.256 --> 0:30:11.056
<v Speaker 7>in that edge as an athlete, you always want to

0:30:11.096 --> 0:30:13.616
<v Speaker 7>prove people wrong. And for my life, a lot of

0:30:13.656 --> 0:30:16.056
<v Speaker 7>people have to hold me things that I couldn't do,

0:30:16.896 --> 0:30:19.016
<v Speaker 7>goals that I could never accomplish. I'd never be good

0:30:19.096 --> 0:30:21.456
<v Speaker 7>enough to attain those or succeed. And I just had

0:30:21.496 --> 0:30:23.136
<v Speaker 7>something to prove every single time I stuff them in

0:30:23.176 --> 0:30:24.456
<v Speaker 7>that field, I wanted them to feel.

0:30:24.256 --> 0:30:26.936
<v Speaker 5>That when you went to Tennessee you started immediately. Did

0:30:26.976 --> 0:30:28.336
<v Speaker 5>you know you were going to start immediately? Or do

0:30:28.456 --> 0:30:30.376
<v Speaker 5>some things fall and all of a sudden you're a

0:30:30.416 --> 0:30:31.336
<v Speaker 5>freshman who's got to go.

0:30:32.776 --> 0:30:34.856
<v Speaker 7>No, I didn't really think I was going to start immediately.

0:30:35.016 --> 0:30:36.656
<v Speaker 7>I knew I was gonna have to fight and compete

0:30:36.656 --> 0:30:40.256
<v Speaker 7>for a job. I knew I was highly ranked, highly recruited.

0:30:40.296 --> 0:30:42.776
<v Speaker 7>A lot of guys and teams wanted me, but I

0:30:42.856 --> 0:30:44.576
<v Speaker 7>knew it was gonna be a hard battle to get there.

0:30:45.136 --> 0:30:47.176
<v Speaker 7>When I got to Tennessee and I sort of saw

0:30:47.576 --> 0:30:50.016
<v Speaker 7>where I was stacking up in the spring practice, how

0:30:50.056 --> 0:30:52.336
<v Speaker 7>I was competing and seeing that you know, there's a

0:30:52.416 --> 0:30:54.216
<v Speaker 7>legitimate shot and a chance for me to play, and

0:30:54.296 --> 0:30:56.296
<v Speaker 7>then you know, ultimately it worked out in my favor.

0:30:56.856 --> 0:30:59.616
<v Speaker 6>No. I know, going your sophomore year, you started eight games,

0:30:59.696 --> 0:31:01.736
<v Speaker 6>but then you had to end the season early because

0:31:01.776 --> 0:31:03.856
<v Speaker 6>of blood clots. Can you talk to us a little

0:31:03.856 --> 0:31:06.816
<v Speaker 6>bit about what you're going through during those challenging times

0:31:06.856 --> 0:31:10.536
<v Speaker 6>and how it shaped your mindset moving forward and as

0:31:10.656 --> 0:31:11.776
<v Speaker 6>both on and off the field.

0:31:12.296 --> 0:31:14.575
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's a it's a long arge with story man.

0:31:15.696 --> 0:31:17.696
<v Speaker 7>You know what happened after my freshman year, you know,

0:31:17.816 --> 0:31:20.616
<v Speaker 7>had a lot of success, started every game, all sec whatever,

0:31:21.296 --> 0:31:23.496
<v Speaker 7>and then our coaching staff, Coach Jones and his entire

0:31:23.536 --> 0:31:26.776
<v Speaker 7>staff gets fired. So incomes and Jeremy Pruitt, completely different

0:31:26.816 --> 0:31:28.656
<v Speaker 7>coaching staff, and as y'all know in the sporting world,

0:31:28.896 --> 0:31:30.856
<v Speaker 7>they're trying to break you every single time to figure

0:31:30.856 --> 0:31:32.776
<v Speaker 7>out who's going to be the nucleus of this team,

0:31:33.016 --> 0:31:34.416
<v Speaker 7>who are we going to build, who are our team

0:31:34.536 --> 0:31:37.136
<v Speaker 7>leaders going to be. So we did maddurials every day,

0:31:37.176 --> 0:31:38.856
<v Speaker 7>and then there was the workouts trying to break you.

0:31:38.976 --> 0:31:40.936
<v Speaker 7>And I remember, like the first couple of weeks having

0:31:40.976 --> 0:31:42.456
<v Speaker 7>no problem with it, and then all of a sudden,

0:31:42.576 --> 0:31:45.376
<v Speaker 7>like during conditioning, I passed out and just not really

0:31:45.456 --> 0:31:47.296
<v Speaker 7>understanding what's wrong with me and telling my doctor I've

0:31:47.336 --> 0:31:49.816
<v Speaker 7>lost thirteen pounds in a day. I feel awful. I

0:31:49.896 --> 0:31:51.816
<v Speaker 7>can barely walk to the library. It's like four hundred

0:31:51.896 --> 0:31:53.616
<v Speaker 7>yards wi having to stop and catch my breath. And

0:31:54.056 --> 0:31:55.776
<v Speaker 7>you know, ultimately they figured out that I have blood

0:31:55.816 --> 0:31:57.456
<v Speaker 7>clots and both sides of my lungs, like a really

0:31:57.496 --> 0:32:00.696
<v Speaker 7>severe case of it for me. I think that was devastating,

0:32:00.776 --> 0:32:02.896
<v Speaker 7>just trying to figure out what's the next move, next direction.

0:32:03.896 --> 0:32:05.416
<v Speaker 7>At the time, the doctor told me, you know, we

0:32:05.456 --> 0:32:07.296
<v Speaker 7>don't know if you're able to play. If you get

0:32:07.336 --> 0:32:09.296
<v Speaker 7>blood clots again, not only can they be fatal, but

0:32:09.376 --> 0:32:12.016
<v Speaker 7>you'll never play football again. So for pretty much five

0:32:12.136 --> 0:32:14.576
<v Speaker 7>to six months, I had to do every study hall,

0:32:14.656 --> 0:32:18.456
<v Speaker 7>every practice, every workout, every meeting without really knowing that

0:32:18.496 --> 0:32:20.856
<v Speaker 7>I was going to play that season. And ultimately, you know,

0:32:21.376 --> 0:32:23.776
<v Speaker 7>they cleared me to play, got through about halfway point

0:32:23.776 --> 0:32:26.176
<v Speaker 7>of the season that said you have blood clots again,

0:32:26.376 --> 0:32:28.256
<v Speaker 7>and for me, it was just like one of the

0:32:28.336 --> 0:32:30.536
<v Speaker 7>darkest moments. You know, football is taking away from me,

0:32:30.656 --> 0:32:33.336
<v Speaker 7>like what's my next direction? And you know, I just landed.

0:32:33.536 --> 0:32:35.496
<v Speaker 7>I loaned on my faith just to bring me through it.

0:32:35.936 --> 0:32:37.336
<v Speaker 7>There are a lot of dark days, a lot of

0:32:37.416 --> 0:32:40.096
<v Speaker 7>dark times, and it was a tough process and ultimately,

0:32:40.136 --> 0:32:42.096
<v Speaker 7>you know, we got with the doctor that created a

0:32:42.136 --> 0:32:44.416
<v Speaker 7>medical plan and never been done in a contact sport before,

0:32:44.456 --> 0:32:47.416
<v Speaker 7>where I was taking bloodthnder every single day of the

0:32:47.456 --> 0:32:49.296
<v Speaker 7>week and then coming off it a Friday morning and

0:32:49.336 --> 0:32:52.296
<v Speaker 7>playing on Saturday. So I had no contact practices. I

0:32:52.456 --> 0:32:54.216
<v Speaker 7>wasn't able to practice all I could do was walk

0:32:54.256 --> 0:32:57.016
<v Speaker 7>through workout and watch film. So it was a whole

0:32:57.136 --> 0:32:59.896
<v Speaker 7>different process to adapt and try to prepare for that.

0:33:00.056 --> 0:33:01.736
<v Speaker 7>But for me, I just wanted to play the game,

0:33:02.056 --> 0:33:03.376
<v Speaker 7>you know, I knew I wanted to be a football

0:33:03.376 --> 0:33:06.336
<v Speaker 7>player since kindergarten. So for me, it's all about reaching

0:33:06.416 --> 0:33:09.736
<v Speaker 7>that dream, to aspire to be an NFL player, to

0:33:09.856 --> 0:33:12.296
<v Speaker 7>keep playing the game, and once again just proving people wrong.

0:33:12.896 --> 0:33:15.896
<v Speaker 5>This will probably be an uneducated question, but did that

0:33:15.976 --> 0:33:17.936
<v Speaker 5>at all affect your draft stock two years later?

0:33:18.976 --> 0:33:19.575
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely?

0:33:19.736 --> 0:33:22.536
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's probably one of the most negative things about

0:33:22.616 --> 0:33:25.096
<v Speaker 7>I mean, it was hard to explain to a coach

0:33:25.176 --> 0:33:28.616
<v Speaker 7>or an organization, Like imagine trying to tell Bill Belichick

0:33:28.616 --> 0:33:31.855
<v Speaker 7>at the time, Hey, coach, I can't practice. I can

0:33:31.896 --> 0:33:33.936
<v Speaker 7>go play for you, but there's no wile practice. So

0:33:34.136 --> 0:33:36.496
<v Speaker 7>for them it was like, Okay, this kid can't practice,

0:33:36.496 --> 0:33:38.576
<v Speaker 7>how's he gonna get better, how's he gonna how's he

0:33:38.616 --> 0:33:40.256
<v Speaker 7>gonna develop? We can't even develop this kid if you

0:33:40.296 --> 0:33:42.616
<v Speaker 7>can't play. So it was a long journey trying to

0:33:42.656 --> 0:33:45.376
<v Speaker 7>tell teams your story, and there's so much background that

0:33:45.416 --> 0:33:47.376
<v Speaker 7>goes into the story that a lot of teams didn't

0:33:47.376 --> 0:33:48.776
<v Speaker 7>feel comfortable, which I don't blame them.

0:33:49.536 --> 0:33:51.496
<v Speaker 6>You know, we used to have this saying or this

0:33:51.816 --> 0:33:53.896
<v Speaker 6>big sign up in the locker room and said, durability

0:33:53.976 --> 0:33:56.936
<v Speaker 6>is more important than ability. And you've played in sixty

0:33:56.976 --> 0:34:00.216
<v Speaker 6>seven games, started every single game. Can you talk to

0:34:00.376 --> 0:34:03.296
<v Speaker 6>us about the inner workings of how you keep yourself

0:34:03.416 --> 0:34:05.736
<v Speaker 6>healthy throughout the course a week, what you do for

0:34:05.816 --> 0:34:08.216
<v Speaker 6>your body to keep yourself maintained and on the field.

0:34:09.336 --> 0:34:11.376
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, there's so much that goes into it.

0:34:11.496 --> 0:34:11.656
<v Speaker 6>Man.

0:34:12.216 --> 0:34:14.136
<v Speaker 7>I think that's just part of growth as a football

0:34:14.176 --> 0:34:17.096
<v Speaker 7>player from every level you keep going right. And for me,

0:34:17.216 --> 0:34:21.576
<v Speaker 7>it was just like stretching, rehab, sports, massage, therapy, ice, bass,

0:34:21.776 --> 0:34:25.336
<v Speaker 7>like just adding little things into my game. Having mentors

0:34:25.336 --> 0:34:27.576
<v Speaker 7>and ogs in the locker room. They're telling, hey, look,

0:34:27.576 --> 0:34:29.336
<v Speaker 7>come on, come on me, we're gonna do this schedule

0:34:29.376 --> 0:34:31.136
<v Speaker 7>where you know, day after a game, you know you

0:34:31.216 --> 0:34:33.616
<v Speaker 7>feel terrible, but come in here, get a lift, do

0:34:33.656 --> 0:34:35.496
<v Speaker 7>a body flush, just something to keep the bones and

0:34:35.536 --> 0:34:37.696
<v Speaker 7>body moving. So for me, I think that's a bit

0:34:37.776 --> 0:34:40.056
<v Speaker 7>of it. For me, I always I want to put

0:34:40.136 --> 0:34:42.736
<v Speaker 7>true and play almost no matter what. I don't know

0:34:42.736 --> 0:34:44.056
<v Speaker 7>if it's an O line thing, but it's almost like

0:34:44.056 --> 0:34:45.696
<v Speaker 7>a pride thing, like I want if I'm able to

0:34:45.736 --> 0:34:47.056
<v Speaker 7>get off the couch, I want to go out there

0:34:47.096 --> 0:34:50.216
<v Speaker 7>and play. So I think there's a little mental toughness aspect.

0:34:50.256 --> 0:34:52.855
<v Speaker 7>And then I have great teammates around me talking about

0:34:52.856 --> 0:34:55.576
<v Speaker 7>the interior offensive lineman as well, Guys like Joe Toney

0:34:56.336 --> 0:34:58.456
<v Speaker 7>create Humphrey. You know they don't miss games either. So

0:34:58.896 --> 0:35:00.616
<v Speaker 7>I don't ever want to be one of the guys

0:35:00.656 --> 0:35:02.496
<v Speaker 7>that lets my teammates down when they need me. If

0:35:02.536 --> 0:35:04.496
<v Speaker 7>I can go compete and get my best on the field,

0:35:04.536 --> 0:35:06.216
<v Speaker 7>I'm not gonna not gonna hold out.

0:35:06.056 --> 0:35:06.496
<v Speaker 2>On my guys.

0:35:06.976 --> 0:35:09.176
<v Speaker 5>I have some buddies, and it's four other guys. We

0:35:09.256 --> 0:35:11.256
<v Speaker 5>play in a Madden League. Every time Madden comes out

0:35:11.296 --> 0:35:14.256
<v Speaker 5>for like four months. In the past two years, I've

0:35:14.256 --> 0:35:15.776
<v Speaker 5>traded for you every season. I just want to tell

0:35:15.816 --> 0:35:17.696
<v Speaker 5>you that I've traded for you, like you're so legit

0:35:17.816 --> 0:35:19.616
<v Speaker 5>on that. Do you know how legit you are on Madden?

0:35:19.696 --> 0:35:21.536
<v Speaker 5>Do you ever play with you, bro?

0:35:21.656 --> 0:35:23.496
<v Speaker 2>I haven't played Madden in a while, but I love

0:35:23.536 --> 0:35:23.856
<v Speaker 2>to hear that.

0:35:23.976 --> 0:35:25.656
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, every year. I trade for you every year.

0:35:25.896 --> 0:35:27.656
<v Speaker 5>It's funny to see your head in real life because

0:35:27.696 --> 0:35:29.216
<v Speaker 5>your head's up there on my team all the time.

0:35:32.816 --> 0:35:33.456
<v Speaker 2>That's awesome.

0:35:33.736 --> 0:35:35.656
<v Speaker 6>So when you came into the league, who are some

0:35:35.776 --> 0:35:37.976
<v Speaker 6>of those guys that took you under their wing and

0:35:38.136 --> 0:35:39.896
<v Speaker 6>kind of showed you how to be a professional, how

0:35:39.976 --> 0:35:43.016
<v Speaker 6>the league operated, and somebody who you probably still rely

0:35:43.136 --> 0:35:43.536
<v Speaker 6>on today.

0:35:43.976 --> 0:35:44.176
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:35:44.256 --> 0:35:46.776
<v Speaker 7>Man, when I walked to the Chiefs as a rookie, man,

0:35:46.896 --> 0:35:49.096
<v Speaker 7>we were veteran heavy, especially in the offensive line room,

0:35:49.576 --> 0:35:56.616
<v Speaker 7>and there's so many names, guys like Mike Rimmers, Larry Tardiff, Duverneur,

0:35:57.536 --> 0:35:58.216
<v Speaker 7>Kyle Long.

0:35:58.376 --> 0:35:58.815
<v Speaker 2>You know Kyle.

0:35:58.936 --> 0:36:00.776
<v Speaker 7>I leaned on Kyle a lot during the season just

0:36:00.856 --> 0:36:03.496
<v Speaker 7>to teach me different things. But then I also having,

0:36:03.656 --> 0:36:05.536
<v Speaker 7>you know, in my opinion, Hall of Fay Future of

0:36:05.576 --> 0:36:08.096
<v Speaker 7>Fame offensive guarden Joe Toney, a guy that I can

0:36:08.536 --> 0:36:11.056
<v Speaker 7>bounce ideas off questions, a guy that I can watch

0:36:11.136 --> 0:36:12.896
<v Speaker 7>and try to emulate my game a little bit off

0:36:12.896 --> 0:36:14.976
<v Speaker 7>of him. So, you know, I had a great offensive

0:36:14.976 --> 0:36:18.256
<v Speaker 7>line coach and Andy Hack assist officive line coach Cory Mattey,

0:36:18.576 --> 0:36:20.936
<v Speaker 7>and obviously you know the headman himself, coach Ree who

0:36:21.056 --> 0:36:24.536
<v Speaker 7>understands interworkings of offensive line play. So really fell into

0:36:24.616 --> 0:36:27.976
<v Speaker 7>a great perfect situation. Talked about my center once again,

0:36:28.096 --> 0:36:30.896
<v Speaker 7>Creed Humphrey I've known him since sophomore year of high school.

0:36:31.216 --> 0:36:34.056
<v Speaker 7>So having that report in that relationship already, step into

0:36:34.096 --> 0:36:35.976
<v Speaker 7>the game like it was easy because I have a

0:36:36.056 --> 0:36:37.656
<v Speaker 7>guy nice to me that I know I can trust,

0:36:37.936 --> 0:36:40.136
<v Speaker 7>you know, talking about a guy like Andrew Wiley, Lucas

0:36:40.176 --> 0:36:42.576
<v Speaker 7>and Yang as well. So we had a really good,

0:36:42.736 --> 0:36:46.336
<v Speaker 7>strong core offensive line room, and you know, the transition

0:36:46.576 --> 0:36:49.456
<v Speaker 7>was very difficult. All days weren't good days. It didn't

0:36:49.456 --> 0:36:52.056
<v Speaker 7>have great games all the time, but you know, you know,

0:36:52.216 --> 0:36:54.336
<v Speaker 7>leaning and depending on those guys made it a lot easier.

0:36:54.576 --> 0:36:57.416
<v Speaker 5>The first time I thought about this was a Lebron comparison,

0:36:57.576 --> 0:37:01.016
<v Speaker 5>But Lebron being forty and all the seasons that he's

0:37:01.176 --> 0:37:05.136
<v Speaker 5>played really isn't the whole picture because all the playoff

0:37:05.176 --> 0:37:08.576
<v Speaker 5>games that he's played as well as the seasons, it's

0:37:08.696 --> 0:37:11.376
<v Speaker 5>like multiple other seasons. Now when I look at a

0:37:11.456 --> 0:37:14.136
<v Speaker 5>guy like you, all the playoff games that you're playing

0:37:14.176 --> 0:37:16.536
<v Speaker 5>every single year that you've been in the league, right,

0:37:16.536 --> 0:37:18.616
<v Speaker 5>because yeah, you've been what you've been in five years,

0:37:18.656 --> 0:37:20.256
<v Speaker 5>four years at this point, four or five years, yeah,

0:37:20.456 --> 0:37:22.816
<v Speaker 5>like my fifth year. Yeah, so that's that's a lot

0:37:22.856 --> 0:37:26.456
<v Speaker 5>of you've basically played an extra season compared to players

0:37:26.536 --> 0:37:29.096
<v Speaker 5>that haven't made the playoffs or haven't gone far in

0:37:29.176 --> 0:37:32.376
<v Speaker 5>the playoffs, Like, your body's got to feel like it's

0:37:32.456 --> 0:37:34.216
<v Speaker 5>two seasons deeper than that, right.

0:37:34.496 --> 0:37:37.976
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's not sweet and winning super Bowls and stuff.

0:37:38.016 --> 0:37:40.056
<v Speaker 7>It's awesome, but you know there's a lot of wear

0:37:40.096 --> 0:37:42.096
<v Speaker 7>and tear in the body when you go that far.

0:37:42.656 --> 0:37:44.576
<v Speaker 7>You know, I'm spoiled in a way. You know, God's

0:37:44.616 --> 0:37:46.656
<v Speaker 7>blessed me once again, where it's like, I don't know

0:37:46.816 --> 0:37:50.656
<v Speaker 7>anything less than an AFC Championship game in my entire career.

0:37:50.856 --> 0:37:53.176
<v Speaker 7>But like you said, like it accumulates and adds on

0:37:53.336 --> 0:37:56.376
<v Speaker 7>every season you start stacking those extra games. So I

0:37:56.496 --> 0:37:59.216
<v Speaker 7>think that's why, like body and recovery became critical for

0:37:59.296 --> 0:38:02.016
<v Speaker 7>me in terming, like I want longevity in my career,

0:38:02.096 --> 0:38:04.296
<v Speaker 7>but I also want to be available. Availability is the

0:38:04.336 --> 0:38:06.616
<v Speaker 7>best trade, right. So so from that, it's been really

0:38:06.696 --> 0:38:09.096
<v Speaker 7>difficult just trying to stay on the field, but you

0:38:09.216 --> 0:38:10.816
<v Speaker 7>just have to adapt your game and of all as

0:38:10.896 --> 0:38:11.376
<v Speaker 7>time goes.

0:38:12.256 --> 0:38:15.416
<v Speaker 6>So what type of motivation do you guys have going

0:38:15.456 --> 0:38:17.776
<v Speaker 6>into this year Because obviously with the success that you've

0:38:17.816 --> 0:38:21.176
<v Speaker 6>had earlier in your career with the two Super Bowls

0:38:21.336 --> 0:38:23.616
<v Speaker 6>and you're coming off a season where you guys didn't

0:38:23.616 --> 0:38:25.896
<v Speaker 6>get it done this year. What's your mentality going into

0:38:25.976 --> 0:38:27.096
<v Speaker 6>this year with that?

0:38:27.616 --> 0:38:29.616
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you know, the mission remains the same

0:38:29.736 --> 0:38:31.976
<v Speaker 2>every year. We have meetings and we talk about it,

0:38:32.096 --> 0:38:33.816
<v Speaker 2>and you know, ultimately we're all there to win a

0:38:33.896 --> 0:38:34.336
<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl.

0:38:34.496 --> 0:38:37.056
<v Speaker 7>So obviously we came up short, and that's a feeling

0:38:37.136 --> 0:38:39.176
<v Speaker 7>that we won't forget and it's a feeling that no

0:38:39.296 --> 0:38:41.456
<v Speaker 7>one in that locker room like. But at the end

0:38:41.456 --> 0:38:42.976
<v Speaker 7>of the day, we have to just focus on the

0:38:43.056 --> 0:38:45.176
<v Speaker 7>current mission, which is how do we attack every day,

0:38:45.296 --> 0:38:47.056
<v Speaker 7>day in and day out, just one step out of time,

0:38:47.096 --> 0:38:49.176
<v Speaker 7>one rep at a time. So for me, I feel

0:38:49.256 --> 0:38:51.616
<v Speaker 7>like I personally I can only speak on my own experience,

0:38:51.696 --> 0:38:54.016
<v Speaker 7>but I never look too far ahead. I just look

0:38:54.016 --> 0:38:55.936
<v Speaker 7>at my opponent each and every week and just go

0:38:56.056 --> 0:38:57.736
<v Speaker 7>from there and just keep building Because if I can

0:38:57.776 --> 0:38:59.896
<v Speaker 7>be the best version of myself for my team, then

0:38:59.936 --> 0:39:01.696
<v Speaker 7>I know I'm doing my job, and I know all

0:39:01.736 --> 0:39:02.616
<v Speaker 7>of my guys are doing that.

0:39:02.696 --> 0:39:03.576
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna be just fine.

0:39:03.816 --> 0:39:06.136
<v Speaker 3>Hey, so tell me about this camp. It's a second year,

0:39:06.176 --> 0:39:07.376
<v Speaker 3>you're doing it right, let's.

0:39:07.216 --> 0:39:08.296
<v Speaker 2>Our second year camp.

0:39:08.376 --> 0:39:11.296
<v Speaker 7>Man, It's going to be in Jackson Tennessee, June twenty

0:39:11.376 --> 0:39:14.776
<v Speaker 7>first second year running it, having a great turnout again,

0:39:14.856 --> 0:39:17.016
<v Speaker 7>and just putting on something for the community of Jackson.

0:39:17.176 --> 0:39:18.616
<v Speaker 7>You know, I owe so much to that place to

0:39:18.656 --> 0:39:20.496
<v Speaker 7>help me become a man and the person who I

0:39:20.536 --> 0:39:21.816
<v Speaker 7>am today. So I want to give back to the

0:39:21.856 --> 0:39:22.816
<v Speaker 7>community anyway I can.

0:39:23.016 --> 0:39:25.296
<v Speaker 5>And so the ages of the kids though, so it's

0:39:25.296 --> 0:39:28.616
<v Speaker 5>anywhere from second grade to twelfth grade, is that right, Yes, sir, yep?

0:39:28.816 --> 0:39:30.696
<v Speaker 3>And what do you teach them differently?

0:39:30.776 --> 0:39:32.776
<v Speaker 5>I mean, if you are second grades to a whole

0:39:32.776 --> 0:39:35.176
<v Speaker 5>different set of skills in eleventh grade, I'm assuming.

0:39:34.936 --> 0:39:37.056
<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, yeah, a little bit of trial and error

0:39:37.096 --> 0:39:37.736
<v Speaker 2>from last year.

0:39:38.096 --> 0:39:40.056
<v Speaker 7>Just understand the second graders and the little guys they

0:39:40.096 --> 0:39:42.016
<v Speaker 7>want to just go out there and have fun, but

0:39:42.176 --> 0:39:44.216
<v Speaker 7>just sort of get them a basic understanding of the

0:39:44.256 --> 0:39:46.976
<v Speaker 7>fundamentals of football, what goes into it. But the main

0:39:47.056 --> 0:39:49.336
<v Speaker 7>emphasis is making sure the little guys have fun out there.

0:39:49.656 --> 0:39:51.616
<v Speaker 7>When we talk about the middle school in high school camp,

0:39:51.776 --> 0:39:54.656
<v Speaker 7>just turn it up a little bit. Obviously, we're preparing

0:39:54.736 --> 0:39:57.176
<v Speaker 7>them if they want to possibly have a future of

0:39:57.216 --> 0:39:58.696
<v Speaker 7>the next level, or if they want to just some

0:39:58.816 --> 0:40:01.856
<v Speaker 7>better themselves for the upcoming season. Just really pushing them,

0:40:02.216 --> 0:40:04.776
<v Speaker 7>getting them ready and refining their skills become better athletes

0:40:04.776 --> 0:40:05.776
<v Speaker 7>and better football players.

0:40:05.936 --> 0:40:08.696
<v Speaker 5>The twenty twenty five Tree Smith Football Camp Saturday, June

0:40:08.736 --> 0:40:12.016
<v Speaker 5>twenty first at the University School of Jackson and Jackson, Tennessee.

0:40:12.536 --> 0:40:15.856
<v Speaker 5>And again, all the proceeds benefit the United Way of

0:40:15.936 --> 0:40:20.416
<v Speaker 5>West Tennessee. And there's swag and food and expert coaching

0:40:20.496 --> 0:40:23.496
<v Speaker 5>from Trey and other NFL players and surprises. So it

0:40:23.576 --> 0:40:25.576
<v Speaker 5>really is a great deal, especially if you're anywhere near

0:40:25.696 --> 0:40:27.616
<v Speaker 5>the area, Like, be sure to go check it out

0:40:27.896 --> 0:40:30.616
<v Speaker 5>at least learn about it and then make your decision.

0:40:31.256 --> 0:40:33.816
<v Speaker 5>My final question, though, can you give us a Patrick

0:40:33.896 --> 0:40:35.896
<v Speaker 5>Mahomes in the huddle story.

0:40:36.296 --> 0:40:39.856
<v Speaker 7>Probably to the Super Bowl closing out that game obviously

0:40:39.896 --> 0:40:42.736
<v Speaker 7>a high pressure situation last year against the forty nine ers.

0:40:43.056 --> 0:40:44.816
<v Speaker 7>You know, they got the ball, got possession, kick a

0:40:44.856 --> 0:40:47.736
<v Speaker 7>field goal, they're up in overtime, and pretty much all

0:40:47.776 --> 0:40:49.376
<v Speaker 7>eyes are on us at the end of the day.

0:40:49.376 --> 0:40:52.496
<v Speaker 7>And I remember not necessarily being nervous because we're all

0:40:52.576 --> 0:40:54.536
<v Speaker 7>ready for the moment. And I remember Pat just hops

0:40:54.576 --> 0:40:56.736
<v Speaker 7>in the huddle was just like, hey, guys, let's get it,

0:40:57.016 --> 0:40:58.696
<v Speaker 7>like you know what to do, Let's go do the

0:40:58.816 --> 0:41:01.696
<v Speaker 7>same and just like the calmness that he had in

0:41:01.776 --> 0:41:05.456
<v Speaker 7>his voice, the assurance, the confidence and swag based it

0:41:05.576 --> 0:41:07.856
<v Speaker 7>was just like, hey, we know we got fifteen back there,

0:41:07.936 --> 0:41:09.536
<v Speaker 7>we know we're about to go do and like I

0:41:09.616 --> 0:41:11.816
<v Speaker 7>said earlier, everyone just do your damn job.

0:41:11.896 --> 0:41:14.056
<v Speaker 2>Man, do your job one rep at a time will

0:41:14.096 --> 0:41:14.816
<v Speaker 2>be just fine.

0:41:14.616 --> 0:41:16.976
<v Speaker 7>In a way that we systematically march down that field

0:41:17.216 --> 0:41:19.536
<v Speaker 7>play after play after play. You know, I think that's

0:41:19.616 --> 0:41:22.016
<v Speaker 7>really one of his greatest drives he's had in his career. Man,

0:41:22.016 --> 0:41:23.776
<v Speaker 7>when you look at the excellence and the greatness of

0:41:23.816 --> 0:41:26.176
<v Speaker 7>Patrick Mahomes, I think that moment for me is one

0:41:26.216 --> 0:41:27.256
<v Speaker 7>that's going to always stick out.

0:41:27.656 --> 0:41:29.816
<v Speaker 6>How about any time where he got after you and

0:41:29.896 --> 0:41:32.016
<v Speaker 6>you're like, oh man, that's not good.

0:41:33.896 --> 0:41:36.336
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you know, Pat does an awesome job where he

0:41:36.376 --> 0:41:38.696
<v Speaker 7>doesn't really lay into us too much. I think that

0:41:38.816 --> 0:41:42.376
<v Speaker 7>we all know the level of effort he's going to

0:41:42.416 --> 0:41:45.016
<v Speaker 7>bring every single time we step on that field. For us,

0:41:45.096 --> 0:41:46.896
<v Speaker 7>it's just like, man, we never want to see our

0:41:46.976 --> 0:41:49.176
<v Speaker 7>quarterback one on the ground, but in a position where like,

0:41:49.536 --> 0:41:51.416
<v Speaker 7>you know, he's pissed off, ass like you don't want

0:41:51.456 --> 0:41:54.016
<v Speaker 7>to you don't want those problems, right, But I remember

0:41:54.096 --> 0:41:55.656
<v Speaker 7>one game the Texans.

0:41:55.736 --> 0:41:56.936
<v Speaker 2>It might have been my second year.

0:41:57.776 --> 0:42:00.256
<v Speaker 7>We weren't really playing the greatest half early on into

0:42:00.296 --> 0:42:02.696
<v Speaker 7>that game, and I remember just telling us to sort

0:42:02.696 --> 0:42:04.296
<v Speaker 7>of pick it up, and you know the way we

0:42:04.376 --> 0:42:06.736
<v Speaker 7>had to respond to that. You know, when fifteen your

0:42:06.816 --> 0:42:09.096
<v Speaker 7>quarterback to phild General is asking for something, man, it's

0:42:09.096 --> 0:42:10.896
<v Speaker 7>not a question. You get your dang job done, you

0:42:10.936 --> 0:42:13.216
<v Speaker 7>know what I mean. So I remember that, and that's

0:42:13.216 --> 0:42:15.256
<v Speaker 7>probably the only time I can remember him really getting

0:42:15.296 --> 0:42:17.456
<v Speaker 7>fired up. But like I said, Pat's always pretty calm

0:42:17.536 --> 0:42:20.176
<v Speaker 7>on the field. But once again, like efforts never gonna

0:42:20.176 --> 0:42:21.696
<v Speaker 7>be questioned when he steps on the field. We know

0:42:21.776 --> 0:42:23.335
<v Speaker 7>what he's bringing. We know he's gonna leave that huddle

0:42:23.376 --> 0:42:23.776
<v Speaker 7>in that team.

0:42:24.096 --> 0:42:25.136
<v Speaker 6>Trey. We appreciate you.

0:42:25.696 --> 0:42:28.936
<v Speaker 3>Listen, my Madden team always paid you full Max Man.

0:42:28.976 --> 0:42:31.256
<v Speaker 3>I paid you Max. So I hope in real life

0:42:31.576 --> 0:42:33.176
<v Speaker 3>that's what you get because you deserve it.

0:42:33.256 --> 0:42:33.576
<v Speaker 6>My friend.

0:42:33.616 --> 0:42:36.536
<v Speaker 5>Hey, I appreciate the appreciate the time, and hope everybody

0:42:36.576 --> 0:42:38.896
<v Speaker 5>checks out the second year of the Tree Smith camp

0:42:39.416 --> 0:42:42.335
<v Speaker 5>for the kids again. Second all the way through twelfth grade. Trey,

0:42:42.936 --> 0:42:44.736
<v Speaker 5>here's to a healthy season. Appreciate what you do for

0:42:44.776 --> 0:42:46.736
<v Speaker 5>the community, and hopefully we'll talk to you again soon.

0:42:46.936 --> 0:42:48.816
<v Speaker 2>Thanks brother, Hope. I don't let you down on Madden too.

0:42:48.856 --> 0:42:48.976
<v Speaker 6>Bro.

0:42:49.216 --> 0:42:51.335
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you never have, buddy, you never have see him man.

0:42:52.136 --> 0:42:53.696
<v Speaker 2>See you, brother, Thank you. I got it.

0:43:10.176 --> 0:43:13.176
<v Speaker 3>Let's continue our search for every team's goat.

0:43:14.016 --> 0:43:17.056
<v Speaker 6>Oh gosh, I should have thought about this me too.

0:43:17.136 --> 0:43:22.016
<v Speaker 6>I didn't know. Oh okay. We're now like filtering through going.

0:43:22.696 --> 0:43:28.096
<v Speaker 3>Okay, the Browns and we've alphabet Brown be okay or Tim.

0:43:28.016 --> 0:43:32.936
<v Speaker 6>Couch Nope, Jim Brown. No.

0:43:33.136 --> 0:43:35.136
<v Speaker 5>You feel a little bad for some of the Browns quarterbacks.

0:43:35.176 --> 0:43:38.296
<v Speaker 5>And you've probably seen the jersey of every Browns quarterback.

0:43:39.176 --> 0:43:43.296
<v Speaker 5>All those quarterbacks don't suck. Those are people with unfortunate circumstances.

0:43:43.296 --> 0:43:46.656
<v Speaker 5>They got drafted to an unfortunate place, which has been

0:43:47.656 --> 0:43:49.936
<v Speaker 5>the whole that it's called the Cleveland Browns.

0:43:52.296 --> 0:43:54.936
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's a difficult situation. We we we've talked about

0:43:54.936 --> 0:43:58.016
<v Speaker 6>it before on this podcast, you know, organizational fit, culture,

0:43:58.096 --> 0:44:03.456
<v Speaker 6>everything else. And those guys all were drafted to that

0:44:03.616 --> 0:44:07.776
<v Speaker 6>team at a really what top ten picks? Couch was

0:44:07.816 --> 0:44:10.856
<v Speaker 6>number one overall overall, Yeah, number one overall. Brady Quinn

0:44:11.216 --> 0:44:13.576
<v Speaker 6>was up there in the top ten. I mean you

0:44:13.696 --> 0:44:19.416
<v Speaker 6>could go down the list and unfortunately you know, circumstances matter,

0:44:19.776 --> 0:44:23.336
<v Speaker 6>and I feel bad for those guys because all of

0:44:23.336 --> 0:44:25.696
<v Speaker 6>a sudden it starts going downhill and you're not having

0:44:25.736 --> 0:44:30.096
<v Speaker 6>success as an organization and you get labeled as a

0:44:30.216 --> 0:44:32.696
<v Speaker 6>bust or something. Now, Johnny Manziel was probably the only

0:44:32.736 --> 0:44:35.816
<v Speaker 6>guy that I'd say, probably deservedly so after watching some

0:44:35.936 --> 0:44:38.336
<v Speaker 6>of the comments he made and how he approached the game.

0:44:39.376 --> 0:44:41.656
<v Speaker 3>But like Baker, was able to bounce back. I see,

0:44:41.696 --> 0:44:42.656
<v Speaker 3>that's the thing about Baker.

0:44:43.456 --> 0:44:46.976
<v Speaker 6>Baker went in there as a rookie, played really well

0:44:47.016 --> 0:44:49.136
<v Speaker 6>and then took that team to the playoff, got a

0:44:49.176 --> 0:44:52.216
<v Speaker 6>playoff win, and then was hurt and they traded for

0:44:52.296 --> 0:44:55.216
<v Speaker 6>Deshaun Watson instead of paying him. But I thought Baker

0:44:55.336 --> 0:44:57.696
<v Speaker 6>was one of those guys that was the first in

0:44:57.776 --> 0:45:00.416
<v Speaker 6>a long period of time that was able to go

0:45:00.536 --> 0:45:03.296
<v Speaker 6>on stabilize that position, give that organization hope.

0:45:03.416 --> 0:45:05.776
<v Speaker 5>And I'm not comparing the two straight up, but Joe

0:45:05.816 --> 0:45:08.936
<v Speaker 5>Burrow did a bit of the same thing with Cincinnati,

0:45:08.936 --> 0:45:10.576
<v Speaker 5>who had a little more stability because they had they

0:45:10.616 --> 0:45:13.016
<v Speaker 5>did have Carson Palmer, right, but it was few and

0:45:13.096 --> 0:45:17.816
<v Speaker 5>far between. Because that's another program, or that's another organization

0:45:18.416 --> 0:45:22.536
<v Speaker 5>that you really didn't feel the best about the overall

0:45:22.656 --> 0:45:25.136
<v Speaker 5>health from the top down, right.

0:45:25.096 --> 0:45:27.736
<v Speaker 6>And it starts with ownership a lot of time as well.

0:45:28.456 --> 0:45:32.576
<v Speaker 6>Is I mean, are they dedicated and also how do

0:45:32.616 --> 0:45:36.376
<v Speaker 6>they run their program and everything from facilities to food

0:45:36.456 --> 0:45:40.256
<v Speaker 6>to everything that you take into consideration to make it

0:45:40.336 --> 0:45:44.096
<v Speaker 6>holistically look the way it should look to be successful

0:45:44.296 --> 0:45:47.136
<v Speaker 6>and show the players that you care in the organization itself.

0:45:47.496 --> 0:45:50.936
<v Speaker 6>So it kind of has similar over overtones to that

0:45:51.056 --> 0:45:53.616
<v Speaker 6>of Cleveland, but probably had a lot more in Ohio.

0:45:53.816 --> 0:45:57.576
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, definitely two super Bowls, right, Bloomer lost both

0:45:57.936 --> 0:45:58.736
<v Speaker 5>Boomer lost.

0:45:58.576 --> 0:46:02.456
<v Speaker 6>And then Joe Joe lost one to the Rams, right

0:46:02.696 --> 0:46:03.176
<v Speaker 6>to the Rams.

0:46:03.256 --> 0:46:06.216
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, Joe who Aaron ACKed him on the last.

0:46:06.096 --> 0:46:07.456
<v Speaker 6>No, no, no, oh that's right.

0:46:07.616 --> 0:46:09.776
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, that's right because he beat my homes.

0:46:09.896 --> 0:46:11.536
<v Speaker 6>Yes, he's the guy to beat my home. Yeah.

0:46:11.536 --> 0:46:12.976
<v Speaker 8>They came back and that one, that's right.

0:46:13.736 --> 0:46:16.176
<v Speaker 5>That was no Castle comeback, though I've seen comebacks the

0:46:16.216 --> 0:46:18.856
<v Speaker 5>Castle two fifty four touchdowns. Yeah, that's a comeback.

0:46:18.936 --> 0:46:20.576
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you like that? How do you like that?

0:46:21.016 --> 0:46:21.496
<v Speaker 3>Cowboys?

0:46:22.296 --> 0:46:26.376
<v Speaker 6>Cowboys? M oh man, that's a good that's a great one. Yeah,

0:46:26.416 --> 0:46:28.696
<v Speaker 6>because we can kind of walk through who you could

0:46:28.696 --> 0:46:31.416
<v Speaker 6>go generationally. Yeah, Stabach exactly.

0:46:31.496 --> 0:46:33.696
<v Speaker 3>You could do Stabach or Emmitt.

0:46:33.416 --> 0:46:38.016
<v Speaker 6>Smith, Trey Ackman three times so I mean Michael Irvin.

0:46:38.776 --> 0:46:41.936
<v Speaker 5>I mean you could even do oh gosh, I mean,

0:46:41.976 --> 0:46:43.496
<v Speaker 5>I mean you can even do an offensive lineman. Although

0:46:43.496 --> 0:46:45.776
<v Speaker 5>it's tough to do an offensive lineman. You know, they've

0:46:45.816 --> 0:46:47.056
<v Speaker 5>really like even.

0:46:46.976 --> 0:46:50.336
<v Speaker 6>They've had Zack Martin. Was Zach Martin is all time? Yeah,

0:46:50.536 --> 0:46:51.256
<v Speaker 6>first ballot Hall.

0:46:51.216 --> 0:46:52.736
<v Speaker 3>Of Fame probably got to be INMSS Smith though, right,

0:46:55.176 --> 0:46:56.296
<v Speaker 3>I mean he set the record.

0:46:56.416 --> 0:47:00.216
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, for probably have to be in Emmitt Smith, Probably

0:47:00.256 --> 0:47:03.936
<v Speaker 6>have to be in Smith, Broncos Moose, Janeovichek maybe yeah,

0:47:05.536 --> 0:47:11.296
<v Speaker 6>Broncos Broncos John. This next one's even though, Terrell Davis.

0:47:11.336 --> 0:47:14.776
<v Speaker 6>So you met at the Super Bowl gold jacket on

0:47:15.016 --> 0:47:18.336
<v Speaker 6>his gold jacket. That gold jacket looks pimp. I mean,

0:47:18.376 --> 0:47:22.016
<v Speaker 6>there is that that factor when you see a guy

0:47:22.096 --> 0:47:23.736
<v Speaker 6>in a gold jacket, especially if you played the game

0:47:23.736 --> 0:47:25.976
<v Speaker 6>and you're like, that's awesome. Yeah even if you did,

0:47:26.096 --> 0:47:27.496
<v Speaker 6>You're like, yeah, even if you didn't.

0:47:28.216 --> 0:47:32.016
<v Speaker 5>This one's easy, but there is a pretty close second.

0:47:32.776 --> 0:47:36.656
<v Speaker 5>Lions oh fair Sinners.

0:47:37.256 --> 0:47:40.336
<v Speaker 3>But I think at least he deserves to be mentioned.

0:47:40.856 --> 0:47:45.216
<v Speaker 6>Is Megatron. That's a good, good point, he's not one.

0:47:45.416 --> 0:47:47.376
<v Speaker 5>I'm not arguing that he is one, but I think

0:47:47.416 --> 0:47:49.816
<v Speaker 5>for a lot of teams he would be their best player.

0:47:49.896 --> 0:47:53.616
<v Speaker 6>Ever. Oh he was a freak of nature. Freak just

0:47:53.776 --> 0:47:58.496
<v Speaker 6>absolute size, speed, everything that you could ever like draw

0:47:58.616 --> 0:48:01.496
<v Speaker 6>up on a board of what you'd want. That was Megatron.

0:48:01.936 --> 0:48:04.736
<v Speaker 6>Talk about the ultimate mismatch because I think he was

0:48:05.576 --> 0:48:10.376
<v Speaker 6>probably twound fifteen pounds heavier than Randy Moss, but similar

0:48:10.456 --> 0:48:13.296
<v Speaker 6>skill set. Just an absolute freak of nature. Right, taller

0:48:13.376 --> 0:48:15.496
<v Speaker 6>too right, I think he might might have been. I mean,

0:48:15.616 --> 0:48:21.056
<v Speaker 6>what was he six five six'? Nine they, said, no just, Kidding, oh,

0:48:21.176 --> 0:48:23.296
<v Speaker 6>okay six nine.

0:48:24.216 --> 0:48:26.855
<v Speaker 3>Seventy what Was megatron listed when he. RETIRED i would

0:48:26.896 --> 0:48:27.376
<v Speaker 3>guess six'.

0:48:27.536 --> 0:48:28.736
<v Speaker 6>Five, yep uh.

0:48:31.656 --> 0:48:33.496
<v Speaker 8>Two thirty. Seven yep we'll.

0:48:33.376 --> 0:48:34.536
<v Speaker 3>About take the, Victory.

0:48:34.576 --> 0:48:38.176
<v Speaker 5>There, packers now if you, go old which we weren't

0:48:38.176 --> 0:48:40.736
<v Speaker 5>alive for to See, bart star, we weren't so it's

0:48:40.816 --> 0:48:42.256
<v Speaker 5>kind of hard for us to Yell bart star because

0:48:42.256 --> 0:48:44.096
<v Speaker 5>we saw some black and. White clips yes, we did,

0:48:44.576 --> 0:48:47.456
<v Speaker 5>we did but it's it's really between, Two People brett

0:48:47.496 --> 0:48:47.936
<v Speaker 5>Farv And.

0:48:48.016 --> 0:48:50.656
<v Speaker 6>Aaron Rodgers And. Aaron Rodgers brett farv probably takes it

0:48:50.736 --> 0:48:52.016
<v Speaker 6>because he has my. Childhood, HERO.

0:48:53.776 --> 0:48:56.136
<v Speaker 5>Yeah I think i have To Go, aaron RODGERS but

0:48:56.256 --> 0:49:00.536
<v Speaker 5>I Think aaron rodgers was the best quarterback of my.

0:49:00.776 --> 0:49:02.616
<v Speaker 3>Formidable years he.

0:49:02.736 --> 0:49:04.976
<v Speaker 6>REALLY was I mean i can sit there and honestly

0:49:05.056 --> 0:49:10.136
<v Speaker 6>tell you from, skill, set yeah from also the mental

0:49:10.216 --> 0:49:13.656
<v Speaker 6>side of, the game never, through interceptions could, take off, the,

0:49:13.776 --> 0:49:16.976
<v Speaker 6>athleticism run do all, of it and then all the

0:49:17.016 --> 0:49:20.416
<v Speaker 6>stuff that he would do at the line. Of scrimmage he.

0:49:20.736 --> 0:49:24.576
<v Speaker 6>Was unbelievable but there was pure Joy Watching brett favre

0:49:24.736 --> 0:49:25.496
<v Speaker 6>play the game.

0:49:25.976 --> 0:49:27.816
<v Speaker 3>Because he played like we think we would have.

0:49:27.896 --> 0:49:30.616
<v Speaker 6>Played right it was like a kid in the backyard

0:49:31.136 --> 0:49:35.176
<v Speaker 6>and watching the enthusiasm, he had the celebrations and run

0:49:35.256 --> 0:49:37.056
<v Speaker 6>AROUND with i will never forget In The super bowl

0:49:37.096 --> 0:49:39.056
<v Speaker 6>when he's run around with his helmet off just like

0:49:39.096 --> 0:49:41.816
<v Speaker 6>a little. ASS kid, i mean there's something to be

0:49:41.936 --> 0:49:44.296
<v Speaker 6>said about. THAT that i think that that's what brought

0:49:44.536 --> 0:49:48.256
<v Speaker 6>so many people to love, This Man brett favre when

0:49:48.296 --> 0:49:51.616
<v Speaker 6>he played was because not only, his toughness but it

0:49:51.776 --> 0:49:53.336
<v Speaker 6>was how he played. The Game With.

0:49:53.496 --> 0:49:59.536
<v Speaker 5>Aaron rodgers he was never the single best at any

0:49:59.656 --> 0:50:02.056
<v Speaker 5>of the, specific skills but he was always two. Or

0:50:02.096 --> 0:50:05.016
<v Speaker 5>THREE if i were to, SPEAK more i, would Say

0:50:05.136 --> 0:50:11.736
<v Speaker 5>pay manning probably was able, to, see think move with

0:50:11.896 --> 0:50:14.056
<v Speaker 5>his mind a little Better Than aaron. RODGERS was I

0:50:14.096 --> 0:50:16.456
<v Speaker 5>Think peyton manning was the most three, reel Quarterback But

0:50:16.536 --> 0:50:17.696
<v Speaker 5>aaron rodgers probably two.

0:50:17.856 --> 0:50:20.136
<v Speaker 6>OR three I believe peyton was probably one of the

0:50:20.216 --> 0:50:22.976
<v Speaker 6>most demonstrative right and you could tell like.

0:50:23.336 --> 0:50:25.216
<v Speaker 5>He was you just think because he was moving his

0:50:25.256 --> 0:50:26.736
<v Speaker 5>hands a, lot more he. Was better he think he was,

0:50:26.736 --> 0:50:28.576
<v Speaker 5>ACTUALLY well i do processing.

0:50:28.616 --> 0:50:30.936
<v Speaker 6>IT faster i mean he did process at probably the

0:50:31.016 --> 0:50:33.456
<v Speaker 6>highest level. We've SEEN but i also Played With tom

0:50:33.496 --> 0:50:35.336
<v Speaker 6>Brady that i'd sit There and i'd be in awe

0:50:35.696 --> 0:50:38.176
<v Speaker 6>about how he would be able to dissect a defense

0:50:38.216 --> 0:50:40.536
<v Speaker 6>and understand what was going on based on a movement

0:50:40.616 --> 0:50:44.416
<v Speaker 6>pattern of this guy's inside and the nickel blitz might,

0:50:44.456 --> 0:50:46.656
<v Speaker 6>be coming check, a play get out, of it and

0:50:46.736 --> 0:50:49.736
<v Speaker 6>get to what he wanted to. Get to And So

0:50:50.456 --> 0:50:53.976
<v Speaker 6>aaron rodgers had those same type of. Skill sets and

0:50:54.256 --> 0:50:56.616
<v Speaker 6>when you say he wasn't the, single Best and i'd

0:50:56.656 --> 0:50:59.536
<v Speaker 6>say when he was in, his prime you never saw

0:50:59.576 --> 0:51:00.456
<v Speaker 6>anybody throw the ball.

0:51:00.536 --> 0:51:03.936
<v Speaker 5>Like, Him OKAY so i would say he didn't process

0:51:03.976 --> 0:51:05.816
<v Speaker 5>as fast as Maybe a manning Or, or brady but

0:51:05.856 --> 0:51:09.855
<v Speaker 5>he was always two. Or three he Wasn't A, mike

0:51:10.016 --> 0:51:14.296
<v Speaker 5>vick he Wasn't A, lamar jackson but he absolutely. Could,

0:51:14.376 --> 0:51:17.936
<v Speaker 5>run yes he didn't have the strongest Arm Of matthew

0:51:17.976 --> 0:51:20.256
<v Speaker 5>stafford would have a, stronger arm but he was always

0:51:20.456 --> 0:51:22.616
<v Speaker 5>two or three and having A freaking so my point

0:51:22.736 --> 0:51:24.416
<v Speaker 5>is that every single thing he was in the, top

0:51:24.456 --> 0:51:29.056
<v Speaker 5>THREE and i think that's why he's probably like the

0:51:29.176 --> 0:51:33.896
<v Speaker 5>all around most talented quarterback of my. Formidable YEARS where

0:51:33.936 --> 0:51:36.056
<v Speaker 5>i got to, watch television now there were Things where

0:51:36.056 --> 0:51:37.656
<v Speaker 5>brady was so Good At but brady.

0:51:37.656 --> 0:51:39.776
<v Speaker 6>Couldn't run but he didn't need. To run he didn't need.

0:51:39.816 --> 0:51:41.616
<v Speaker 3>To, run YEAH so i Would.

0:51:41.616 --> 0:51:45.616
<v Speaker 6>Go, rogers also the Thing about rogers was he played with,

0:51:45.976 --> 0:51:49.656
<v Speaker 6>swack right he had that moxy, to him and all

0:51:49.736 --> 0:51:53.296
<v Speaker 6>the great. Quarterbacks DO but, I mean rogers always seemed.

0:51:53.376 --> 0:51:56.136
<v Speaker 6>On FACE and i also love the fact the guy never, Wore,

0:51:56.256 --> 0:51:59.616
<v Speaker 6>rippads like NEVER wre i didn't, know, that YEAH and i.

0:51:59.696 --> 0:52:01.696
<v Speaker 6>NEVER understood i was like he always would Just wear.

0:52:01.616 --> 0:52:04.296
<v Speaker 3>It was common for every quarterback with ripets Or, MOST oh.

0:52:04.456 --> 0:52:07.256
<v Speaker 6>I mean you would, think, SO yes, i mean just

0:52:07.376 --> 0:52:09.896
<v Speaker 6>based on the fact that you're exposed all, the time

0:52:10.136 --> 0:52:11.776
<v Speaker 6>and he just never wore, rip PADS and i, was

0:52:11.856 --> 0:52:18.456
<v Speaker 6>like what A. Gangster, Texans texans now we can't.

0:52:18.496 --> 0:52:20.896
<v Speaker 3>GO Oilers, JJ Watt, jj WATTS who? I.

0:52:20.896 --> 0:52:22.856
<v Speaker 6>HAVE Yeah jj watt's probably.

0:52:22.896 --> 0:52:26.216
<v Speaker 5>THAT guy i, Mean, there well it's a toddler of

0:52:26.256 --> 0:52:27.896
<v Speaker 5>an organization still still.

0:52:28.056 --> 0:52:30.016
<v Speaker 3>FOR sure i won't, say infant but we're toddler.

0:52:30.016 --> 0:52:31.656
<v Speaker 6>Stages now but you're talking about the face of a

0:52:31.736 --> 0:52:35.496
<v Speaker 6>franchise that's a recognizable figure that went out and dominated

0:52:35.576 --> 0:52:37.896
<v Speaker 6>for year and a year out for a long period,

0:52:37.936 --> 0:52:40.776
<v Speaker 6>of time perennial, pro bowler all the things that you look.

0:52:40.856 --> 0:52:43.616
<v Speaker 6>For leader And also i'll tell you when he lined

0:52:43.696 --> 0:52:44.976
<v Speaker 6>up on the opposite SIDE and i was on the

0:52:45.016 --> 0:52:47.176
<v Speaker 6>Field and i'm looking, At him, i'm going, oh god

0:52:47.816 --> 0:52:50.136
<v Speaker 6>see he'd block out the sun and. He was he's,

0:52:50.176 --> 0:52:53.856
<v Speaker 6>also versatile like he'd play, defensive end he'd, move inside

0:52:53.896 --> 0:52:55.696
<v Speaker 6>they'd move them. All around would you try to? Find

0:52:55.776 --> 0:52:59.936
<v Speaker 6>him the hard part about them when we were Playing The,

0:52:59.976 --> 0:53:02.976
<v Speaker 6>houston texas THEY Had, jj watt who was a force

0:53:03.096 --> 0:53:06.296
<v Speaker 6>to be. Reckoned with They, had clowney they, had merciless

0:53:06.496 --> 0:53:08.776
<v Speaker 6>they had dudes that could come off, the ball and

0:53:08.936 --> 0:53:11.776
<v Speaker 6>they would always try to create single matchups because they'd

0:53:11.816 --> 0:53:14.576
<v Speaker 6>go a five, down defense and so that gave them

0:53:14.616 --> 0:53:17.416
<v Speaker 6>the ability TO move jj around and move. These guys

0:53:17.776 --> 0:53:20.736
<v Speaker 6>so sometimes You see clowney standing over your CENTER with

0:53:20.936 --> 0:53:24.536
<v Speaker 6>jj outside on your, defensive end and it was really

0:53:24.696 --> 0:53:27.576
<v Speaker 6>hard to turn your protection to one and not be

0:53:27.656 --> 0:53:29.976
<v Speaker 6>screwed with the. Other guy so you kind of had

0:53:30.016 --> 0:53:35.376
<v Speaker 6>to play. It, Straight, colts well, That's Tough. Marvin hers

0:53:36.216 --> 0:53:40.536
<v Speaker 6>it's definitely Gonna Be Peyton Manning Baby, Jaguars, jaguars hmmm.

0:53:42.056 --> 0:53:45.816
<v Speaker 6>ANOTHER infant i can give you mine if. You're STRUGGLING

0:53:47.496 --> 0:53:48.016
<v Speaker 6>use i think you Might.

0:53:48.056 --> 0:53:50.176
<v Speaker 5>GO burnow i thought you Might, go brenow but you

0:53:50.416 --> 0:53:55.056
<v Speaker 5>could Do, bursellly okay to go to the LINE then.

0:53:55.496 --> 0:53:57.656
<v Speaker 6>I mean, usc product let's, be honest but he only

0:53:57.696 --> 0:54:00.816
<v Speaker 6>played like seven or, eight years but he. WAS incredible

0:54:00.896 --> 0:54:05.536
<v Speaker 6>i Would Go. Fred Taylor, Oh, reddy yeah that's he

0:54:05.616 --> 0:54:07.256
<v Speaker 6>could be, that dude. FOR sure i could See that.

0:54:07.616 --> 0:54:10.296
<v Speaker 5>Fred was NOW that I, accept Brunelle and i'm not

0:54:10.336 --> 0:54:12.096
<v Speaker 5>saying that's who you're, married TO but I accept brunell

0:54:12.136 --> 0:54:14.656
<v Speaker 5>because he did take a brand new organization To The.

0:54:14.696 --> 0:54:15.776
<v Speaker 6>Super, bowl yeah like.

0:54:15.856 --> 0:54:21.416
<v Speaker 5>He was stability to. A lefty i know he barely missed.

0:54:21.456 --> 0:54:24.896
<v Speaker 5>My list your list was all. Over there my list

0:54:24.936 --> 0:54:25.816
<v Speaker 5>got all over the PLACE because i.

0:54:25.816 --> 0:54:28.096
<v Speaker 6>Started. Canting mess he was. LIKE seven i was, like, what,

0:54:28.536 --> 0:54:29.016
<v Speaker 6>YEAH Yeah.

0:54:29.096 --> 0:54:31.296
<v Speaker 8>Afc championship oh he didn't go to The.

0:54:31.296 --> 0:54:33.176
<v Speaker 6>Super bowl who did you get? Beat, by.

0:54:35.216 --> 0:54:36.256
<v Speaker 3>No they just came in at the.

0:54:36.296 --> 0:54:38.256
<v Speaker 8>Same time did we have this talk?

0:54:38.336 --> 0:54:38.496
<v Speaker 6>Last?

0:54:38.536 --> 0:54:43.696
<v Speaker 3>Year, yeah yeah let me guess who they were?

0:54:43.736 --> 0:54:45.216
<v Speaker 6>BEAT By cfc?

0:54:46.136 --> 0:54:50.856
<v Speaker 8>They, there, well okay sorry with him twice.

0:54:51.216 --> 0:54:52.256
<v Speaker 6>Never to The. SUPER bowl.

0:54:54.856 --> 0:54:57.936
<v Speaker 5>I think he went to The. SUPER bowl i bet

0:54:58.056 --> 0:55:01.936
<v Speaker 5>my reputation. On it you don't lose much if you lose. That,

0:55:01.976 --> 0:55:04.616
<v Speaker 5>one nope they've never been The.

0:55:04.616 --> 0:55:09.136
<v Speaker 6>Super. Bowl Okay blake portles went TO The afc. Championship,

0:55:09.176 --> 0:55:11.776
<v Speaker 6>too yeah yeah he did. That one i'll want. SOME

0:55:11.816 --> 0:55:13.336
<v Speaker 6>reputation i don't know how many get. It, Back crap

0:55:13.616 --> 0:55:30.776
<v Speaker 6>i'm gonna work, on that. All right let's do. Two,

0:55:30.816 --> 0:55:34.616
<v Speaker 6>more ah this. One's easy it's. Too Easy, The Chiefs,

0:55:37.656 --> 0:55:39.616
<v Speaker 6>patrick mahomes, that guy he's.

0:55:39.656 --> 0:55:41.656
<v Speaker 5>Pretty good let's do two, others, then okay give me,

0:55:41.736 --> 0:55:44.056
<v Speaker 5>two Others, the Raiders The Raiders.

0:55:47.736 --> 0:55:49.336
<v Speaker 6>Howe, long oh that's a.

0:55:49.336 --> 0:55:50.896
<v Speaker 5>GOOD one i didn't Put how long on my, top

0:55:50.976 --> 0:55:55.936
<v Speaker 5>three but unfairly Because he's stabler is, too old there's

0:55:55.936 --> 0:55:58.776
<v Speaker 5>a Picture of stabler at. Thirty five have you guys seen?

0:55:58.776 --> 0:56:01.256
<v Speaker 5>The Meme it's stabler like thirty three or thirty four,

0:56:01.336 --> 0:56:02.536
<v Speaker 5>years old maybe, thirty five.

0:56:02.616 --> 0:56:04.736
<v Speaker 3>And he looks like. He's seventy he looks like a

0:56:04.776 --> 0:56:06.016
<v Speaker 3>seventy year. Old plumber he.

0:56:06.176 --> 0:56:09.056
<v Speaker 5>Lived, Hard yes and Then there's brady at like, forty

0:56:09.136 --> 0:56:12.976
<v Speaker 5>four and, it's Like here's stabler at thirty three Looking

0:56:13.216 --> 0:56:14.456
<v Speaker 5>like grandpa.

0:56:15.576 --> 0:56:18.976
<v Speaker 6>With. Modern, Medicine, brother, yes wow? What's up?

0:56:19.176 --> 0:56:20.736
<v Speaker 8>That's, bad yeah the Look.

0:56:22.616 --> 0:56:28.736
<v Speaker 6>The raiders i'm gonna Go With, Marcus, ALLEN okay i can.

0:56:28.776 --> 0:56:31.736
<v Speaker 5>See that and mostly it's recency bias because we played

0:56:31.736 --> 0:56:34.376
<v Speaker 5>in a celebrity golf tournament together about a three. WAYS

0:56:34.376 --> 0:56:36.336
<v Speaker 5>ago i didn't spend enough time with him to. Know

0:56:36.416 --> 0:56:37.696
<v Speaker 5>that but he was nice to me in like the

0:56:37.776 --> 0:56:39.216
<v Speaker 5>three seconds we, said hello like he.

0:56:39.296 --> 0:56:39.336
<v Speaker 6>Was.

0:56:39.416 --> 0:56:41.456
<v Speaker 3>Smiley yeah that counts, for, Something, Right.

0:56:41.456 --> 0:56:43.256
<v Speaker 6>Yeah well HE'S a usc product.

0:56:43.336 --> 0:56:45.336
<v Speaker 3>Number, one yeah we got to stop at ALL The, USC.

0:56:45.496 --> 0:56:46.976
<v Speaker 6>Well, i mean you're just naming all, the GREATS and

0:56:47.056 --> 0:56:49.176
<v Speaker 6>i mean we have a lot a lot of great

0:56:49.216 --> 0:56:52.896
<v Speaker 6>players that have come OUT. Of USC but i remember

0:56:52.976 --> 0:56:55.136
<v Speaker 6>being AT a i think It. Was marcus we were

0:56:55.176 --> 0:56:56.936
<v Speaker 6>At The. Tahoe TOURNAMENT did i tell you? This story

0:56:57.816 --> 0:57:01.336
<v Speaker 6>AND his i believe it was his girlfriend was on

0:57:01.496 --> 0:57:04.656
<v Speaker 6>the side and hit, the ball hit her on the

0:57:04.696 --> 0:57:07.176
<v Speaker 6>top of, the dome split her. Head over you? Hit,

0:57:07.216 --> 0:57:10.016
<v Speaker 6>Her no marcus hid he hit his? Own, girlfriend. Yeah

0:57:10.056 --> 0:57:13.256
<v Speaker 6>accidentally she was following the group and like split her.

0:57:13.296 --> 0:57:16.416
<v Speaker 6>Dome open had to go get Like full staples wearing

0:57:16.456 --> 0:57:18.296
<v Speaker 6>a white outfit to and not felt.

0:57:18.336 --> 0:57:20.456
<v Speaker 5>So bad what are the odds you hit, your girl

0:57:20.576 --> 0:57:22.616
<v Speaker 5>even if she's? Following, you like what are the odds you?

0:57:22.696 --> 0:57:25.216
<v Speaker 5>Hit anybody because there's a lot. Of, green yes what

0:57:25.256 --> 0:57:25.976
<v Speaker 5>are the odd you hit your?

0:57:25.976 --> 0:57:30.136
<v Speaker 6>OWN girl i. Don't know that's. Pretty slim last Ones

0:57:30.216 --> 0:57:39.416
<v Speaker 6>The Chargers, Ooh Fouts, Danny, Fouts, winslow, No okay junior

0:57:39.456 --> 0:57:41.336
<v Speaker 6>sayl oh.

0:57:42.216 --> 0:57:44.456
<v Speaker 3>Great one NOT who i gave, it TO but i would.

0:57:44.456 --> 0:57:47.376
<v Speaker 6>Accept it I'd say JUNIOR sal i Would Say La.

0:57:47.456 --> 0:57:50.376
<v Speaker 6>DANIAN tomlinson i like both, of Them but I'm. Going.

0:57:50.456 --> 0:57:54.776
<v Speaker 6>JUNIOR yeah, i mean if you think about the position,

0:57:54.896 --> 0:57:56.016
<v Speaker 6>of linebacker did you.

0:57:56.016 --> 0:57:57.296
<v Speaker 3>Play with him at All At?

0:57:57.336 --> 0:57:59.656
<v Speaker 6>New? England yes. Incredible human what was?

0:57:59.696 --> 0:58:00.856
<v Speaker 5>HE like i was gonna say it was like as,

0:58:00.856 --> 0:58:03.256
<v Speaker 5>a dude BECAUSE what i remember of him as, being

0:58:04.576 --> 0:58:10.216
<v Speaker 5>relentless NonStop With. The chargers and then OBVIOUSLY his ct

0:58:10.376 --> 0:58:12.856
<v Speaker 5>set in and his life ended. Very tragically so those

0:58:12.896 --> 0:58:14.536
<v Speaker 5>are like the two THINGS that i remember.

0:58:14.576 --> 0:58:16.736
<v Speaker 6>From him, really sad, YOU know, i mean it was

0:58:17.296 --> 0:58:19.616
<v Speaker 6>HE was i think thirty nine forty when he came To,

0:58:19.656 --> 0:58:25.216
<v Speaker 6>the patriots and this guy loved. Ball man and when

0:58:25.256 --> 0:58:27.976
<v Speaker 6>you got to the stadium in, the morning it would,

0:58:28.056 --> 0:58:31.056
<v Speaker 6>be say we got there at, six, fifteen right he

0:58:31.336 --> 0:58:34.336
<v Speaker 6>was had been there since four thirty in, the morning already,

0:58:34.416 --> 0:58:38.976
<v Speaker 6>worked out was in the room watching. Film practice you'd

0:58:39.016 --> 0:58:41.696
<v Speaker 6>never know that he. Was forty he was out there

0:58:41.816 --> 0:58:43.656
<v Speaker 6>like he was trying to make the team, every day,

0:58:43.936 --> 0:58:46.856
<v Speaker 6>making calls coming through and. Run fits never took a.

0:58:46.936 --> 0:58:51.376
<v Speaker 6>Period off and then. The game he was the guy

0:58:51.456 --> 0:58:54.496
<v Speaker 6>that would speak to the, team beforehand and it was

0:58:55.416 --> 0:58:58.296
<v Speaker 6>this it was like a religious moment when you get

0:58:58.336 --> 0:59:00.656
<v Speaker 6>To Hear Junior saya howe address the team because he

0:59:00.896 --> 0:59:05.896
<v Speaker 6>was had such a great command and presence and just

0:59:06.016 --> 0:59:08.016
<v Speaker 6>would fire you up and you'd be ready to run

0:59:08.096 --> 0:59:10.976
<v Speaker 6>through a wall for. This guy and then you get

0:59:11.016 --> 0:59:16.256
<v Speaker 6>off the field and he's the most humble individual you'll.

0:59:16.336 --> 0:59:19.616
<v Speaker 6>Ever meet never met somebody that seemed like, a stranger

0:59:20.176 --> 0:59:22.576
<v Speaker 6>nice as. Can be when we'd, Go out he's always

0:59:22.616 --> 0:59:25.096
<v Speaker 6>picking up the tab doing those kind. Of things incredible

0:59:25.096 --> 0:59:27.056
<v Speaker 6>teammate and just a fun guy to.

0:59:27.096 --> 0:59:28.896
<v Speaker 5>Play with as we go into, THE season i made

0:59:28.896 --> 0:59:31.416
<v Speaker 5>a list of PLAYERS that i had to look up

0:59:31.456 --> 0:59:34.896
<v Speaker 5>where they're playing this year because a lot.

0:59:34.936 --> 0:59:38.216
<v Speaker 3>Of, turnover, yes like, For Example. Joey bosa.

0:59:39.056 --> 0:59:43.136
<v Speaker 6>Bill's, NICE yeah i already, heard though huh he's. Already hurt,

0:59:43.736 --> 0:59:46.856
<v Speaker 6>no way he's had an injury right, and yep he's

0:59:46.856 --> 0:59:49.376
<v Speaker 6>had an. Injury history but do.

0:59:49.336 --> 0:59:50.576
<v Speaker 5>You want to see how many you can name the?

0:59:50.576 --> 0:59:52.016
<v Speaker 5>New team i'm a gonna put you under the. Spot

0:59:52.056 --> 0:59:53.576
<v Speaker 5>there but if You, know BOSA well, I knew I.

0:59:53.616 --> 0:59:55.736
<v Speaker 5>Knew BOSA one i did not KNOW.

0:59:55.976 --> 1:00:00.576
<v Speaker 6>And i had to think About Was, Naji Harris. Nase

1:00:00.736 --> 1:00:01.656
<v Speaker 6>harris didn't he go To?

1:00:01.696 --> 1:00:03.936
<v Speaker 5>The chargers, oh yeah, You're ready, You're ready. HE'S ready

1:00:04.056 --> 1:00:06.256
<v Speaker 5>i wasn't going to. Put that you'll spotlight, on him

1:00:06.256 --> 1:00:06.536
<v Speaker 5>but let's.

1:00:06.576 --> 1:00:10.256
<v Speaker 6>Go baby was Then the chargers draft the running back

1:00:10.256 --> 1:00:11.616
<v Speaker 6>in the. First? Round two who Is That north?

1:00:11.616 --> 1:00:12.016
<v Speaker 8>Carolina?

1:00:12.096 --> 1:00:15.496
<v Speaker 6>KID yeah i like him omyor O'mari And hampton hampton

1:00:15.856 --> 1:00:16.416
<v Speaker 6>he's a stud.

1:00:16.536 --> 1:00:18.816
<v Speaker 3>All right at let's let's, Do It.

1:00:19.216 --> 1:00:22.336
<v Speaker 6>Mac Jones mac jones is with the forty. Nine, ers

1:00:22.496 --> 1:00:23.136
<v Speaker 6>yeah how? About?

1:00:23.216 --> 1:00:25.616
<v Speaker 5>That bro, all right We, Got ken We Got ken

1:00:25.696 --> 1:00:27.416
<v Speaker 5>jennings over here acting like This.

1:00:27.576 --> 1:00:31.256
<v Speaker 6>IS jeopardy I Mean mac jones talk about a crazy

1:00:31.336 --> 1:00:32.976
<v Speaker 6>career up to. This point it comes in as, a

1:00:33.056 --> 1:00:35.176
<v Speaker 6>rookie starts For, the patriots takes him to. The playoffs

1:00:35.176 --> 1:00:36.496
<v Speaker 6>now they got boat raced By the bills in, the

1:00:36.496 --> 1:00:38.896
<v Speaker 6>playoffs but incredible, rookie year and he was the next.

1:00:38.976 --> 1:00:41.456
<v Speaker 5>Great one he was the next great one because he

1:00:41.736 --> 1:00:43.536
<v Speaker 5>performed so well early, On right.

1:00:43.536 --> 1:00:48.136
<v Speaker 6>AND unfortunately i feel bad for him, Because situationally josh

1:00:48.216 --> 1:00:52.736
<v Speaker 6>McDaniels leaves and then new coordinator, Next Year. Matt PATRICIA

1:00:52.776 --> 1:00:54.976
<v Speaker 6>and I Love, matt patricia but he always was on

1:00:55.016 --> 1:00:56.576
<v Speaker 6>the defense side of, the Ball And bill belichick put

1:00:56.656 --> 1:01:00.856
<v Speaker 6>him in. That position but at the same time kind

1:01:00.896 --> 1:01:03.216
<v Speaker 6>of got derailed and got. An injury and then the

1:01:03.216 --> 1:01:04.856
<v Speaker 6>next thing, you know he's he's out the door and

1:01:04.896 --> 1:01:06.696
<v Speaker 6>he's with some of the. Last year, next thing, You

1:01:06.776 --> 1:01:11.136
<v Speaker 6>Know western Kentucky's Own. Bailey, Zappy Yeah. Bailly zappy that's

1:01:11.256 --> 1:01:14.136
<v Speaker 6>ONE person i. DON'T know i don't know where he.

1:01:14.216 --> 1:01:14.576
<v Speaker 2>Is either.

1:01:14.696 --> 1:01:16.936
<v Speaker 5>Nobody, DOES yeah i don't know even the league that

1:01:17.016 --> 1:01:17.976
<v Speaker 5>he wasn't part of MY leg.

1:01:18.016 --> 1:01:21.416
<v Speaker 6>I thought he was, really saying we're going.

1:01:21.616 --> 1:01:22.496
<v Speaker 3>The list it's gonna be a.

1:01:22.576 --> 1:01:26.256
<v Speaker 6>Mac jones and is that Like? The chiefs He's, the

1:01:26.336 --> 1:01:28.376
<v Speaker 6>chief the great fit?

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<v Speaker 3>All Right Gardner Minshew.

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<v Speaker 6>Gardner, minshew oh so he was With the colts. Last

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<v Speaker 6>year we, know, that right it's What, The Raiders. Cults

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<v Speaker 6>raiders he had a great year with the Made The,

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<v Speaker 6>pro bowl then went To. THE raiders i have no

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<v Speaker 6>idea where. He went he just.

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<v Speaker 5>Got suckered he's. The chief bailey's appy is probably a. Third,

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<v Speaker 5>string seriously was going to back you guys. Screwed me

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<v Speaker 5>we didn't screw you. On purpose stayed within the. Division

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<v Speaker 5>though it's Not like KEVIN.

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<v Speaker 6>And i worked.

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<v Speaker 3>This out, we're, Like hey i'm really going to.

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<v Speaker 6>Bring this this wasn't even this wasn't even in the

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<v Speaker 6>plot for the first three and, you're, Like Hey, cooper

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<v Speaker 6>rush oh he Went to HOLD and i. Know this

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<v Speaker 6>you didn't Go.

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<v Speaker 5>To denver it feels weird that he's not going to

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<v Speaker 5>be a cowboy and he's not going to come in

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<v Speaker 5>and play four games and win three of them because

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<v Speaker 5>That's Basically cooper rush every year With.

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<v Speaker 6>The cowboys.

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<v Speaker 5>It's weird he's going to be in Weird colors Jacksonville.

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<v Speaker 5>The ravens, oh, wow wow what an.

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<v Speaker 6>INTERESTING fit i know as a coordinator Going, please god

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<v Speaker 6>Don't Let lamar jackson get hurt because we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 6>to change the. Entire.

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<v Speaker 5>OFFENSE yeah I Think cooper rush moves a little better

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<v Speaker 5>than we give him.

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<v Speaker 3>Credit for don't let his skin color make you.

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<v Speaker 6>Feel nothing to do with that making. Him play he's

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<v Speaker 6>not gonna be running the zone read and power at the.

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<v Speaker 5>Quarterback position there's also not a slower Name Than cooper Rush.

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<v Speaker 3>Because rush but that rushing is like down.

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<v Speaker 6>The middle.

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<v Speaker 8>You know some call him the Modern Day.

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<v Speaker 6>MATT castle i, Think no i'm, just.

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<v Speaker 8>Saying, you know he doesn't look, the part, But Like

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<v Speaker 8>cooper rush moves.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty good.

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<v Speaker 6>Have you?

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<v Speaker 5>Been, SERIOUS yeah i turn on, the. TAPE bro i

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<v Speaker 5>watched your tape that you Load on instagame.

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<v Speaker 3>Is awesome by, The WAY like i.

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<v Speaker 6>Watched that somebody sent me THAT and i, was, like

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<v Speaker 6>kids come, watch this watch. Us now it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was awesome i'll tell my, WIFE said i worked. With,

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<v Speaker 3>HIM look i. Know him that that.

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<v Speaker 6>Was awesome that. WAS awesome i don't know who put,

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<v Speaker 6>it TOGETHER but i, was, LIKE man i appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 3>Look Good Uh, DeAndre hopkins D.

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<v Speaker 6>Hop man he's signed. With Somebody so chiefs last year

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<v Speaker 6>obviously went in after. That trade what the? What conference?

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<v Speaker 6>Give me? Give me he's in THE, F c he's

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<v Speaker 6>in the A, f c. Same Division, uh no because

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<v Speaker 6>he's not In. The west.

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<v Speaker 5>No Idea the, Ravens, again wow really good, For him Hunter,

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<v Speaker 5>Renfro back. No idea there's a version of him on

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<v Speaker 5>this team. As well and BY version i mean white

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<v Speaker 5>possession receiver still? No idea consistent?

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<v Speaker 6>Is crap white possession? Receiver consistent? His crap do you

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<v Speaker 6>Know how i'm.

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<v Speaker 5>Talking ABOUT when i say white, possession receiver, very consistent.

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<v Speaker 3>The receiver i'm referring To Is. Adam deeling oh so

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<v Speaker 3>he's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 6>A panther carolina was going, to say, RIGHT theling.

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<v Speaker 4>I Thought Of braxon, barios maybe but then you, said

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<v Speaker 4>consistently like, he's more.

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<v Speaker 6>By, the way not on.

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<v Speaker 3>The List But braxton barrios Is. A TEXAN now i

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<v Speaker 3>believe Is?

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<v Speaker 6>HE okay i believe you may in fact check me.

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<v Speaker 5>On THAT but i believe he has gone From the

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<v Speaker 5>dolphins At, the texans which is kind.

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<v Speaker 6>Of weird that's kind of. COOL though, i mean Your

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<v Speaker 6>boy parker McCollum would be fired up. About that, you

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<v Speaker 6>know he's got the full off season breakdown. For sure

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<v Speaker 6>he was on it by. The way, oh yeah when

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<v Speaker 6>he was on. The, truck yeah he's A. Massive, texans

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<v Speaker 6>wow like, granular right like really in. The weeds so

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<v Speaker 6>he Is a texan? Right, YEP Okay, AJ Dillon j dylon.

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<v Speaker 3>He'll be he'll be, a backup maybe the best running

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<v Speaker 3>back in, the league top three.

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<v Speaker 6>AT least i really LIKE A. J dillon he's. A,

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<v Speaker 6>stud yeah no. Idea, Though, yeah eagles he went To. The,

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<v Speaker 6>Eagles wow SAQUON And, Aj dillon this one you'll know. FOR.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure U, Joe Toney. Joe. June, Chicago yeah chicago did

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<v Speaker 6>a great job with like revamping that offensive line in. Free.

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<v Speaker 6>Agency Unbelievable. Zach Wilson, Zach, wilson oh wasn't He with denver?

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<v Speaker 6>Last year, We're not. We're, Not yeah i'm. Just checking

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<v Speaker 6>i'm just fact. Checking, myself, Philibustering philibustering, No idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Dolphins really so he'll probably get.

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<v Speaker 5>Some play he'll probably play Much Like dak remember that backup,

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<v Speaker 5>is yeah you better get you better, get ready usually gets.

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<v Speaker 3>Some run i'll give you. To More rahem mostert No.

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<v Speaker 6>Idea raiders oh. Nice pickup Darius slay oh previously With,

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<v Speaker 6>the Eagles also previo, his teammate. Great guy i'm still

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah at detroit the guy was a stud h No Idea.

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<v Speaker 6>Steeler steeler great pickup By.

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<v Speaker 5>The steelers speaking Of, The Steelers aaron, rodgers thoughts how?

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<v Speaker 6>ABOUT that I mean i kind, of anticipate like every

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<v Speaker 6>single human just waiting for him to actually check. Into

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<v Speaker 6>camp so, to me it wasn't a big surprise or

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<v Speaker 6>just the. Ah moment at the, Same time i'm Sure

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<v Speaker 6>the steelers are fired up, Because look aaron's, got something something,

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<v Speaker 6>to prove just because he wouldn't be still. Be playing

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<v Speaker 6>he has nothing, to prove but he wouldn't still be

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<v Speaker 6>playing unless he. Wanted TO and i believe that he

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<v Speaker 6>will immediately Upgrade the steelers Because Since, Ben roethlisberger i'd

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<v Speaker 6>say he's the highest profile quarterback that has walked in.

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<v Speaker 6>That building and in addition, TO that i still think he.

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<v Speaker 5>CAN play i just wonder What the steelers' motivations are.

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<v Speaker 5>In general is it just keeping your head? Above water because,

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<v Speaker 5>IF so i. Get it, if, Not, Like Okay mason

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<v Speaker 5>rudolph not, the GUY but i don't think you want

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<v Speaker 5>the guy if you're not going to keep your head,

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<v Speaker 5>above water, like eventually why not try to get a top?

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<v Speaker 6>Draft PICK because i believe as a, coaching staff as,

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<v Speaker 6>an organization, front office everybody, like that there are no.

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<v Speaker 5>Throwaway seasons i'm not saying there's, a throwaway but don't

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<v Speaker 5>you think if there's stability and a coaching staff and,

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<v Speaker 5>an organization you also understand the need for. FRANCHISE players

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<v Speaker 5>i could understand if you're a coordinator and a coach

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<v Speaker 5>who's had a, couple backs Like the giants. For, example

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<v Speaker 5>right let's say that situation. Is happening They Got jackson

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<v Speaker 5>dart in. The draft but let's say that situation is

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<v Speaker 5>happening where they're worried about. THEIR jobs i would definitely

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<v Speaker 5>want the best. Season possible but If you're tomlin and

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<v Speaker 5>you know you're not, going anywhere and they understand why

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<v Speaker 5>you're not throwing, it away because there are no throwaways IN,

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<v Speaker 5>the nfl especially.

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<v Speaker 3>That possibly you're going to only remain one game over two.

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<v Speaker 5>Games over they don't obviously don't lose because That's what,

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<v Speaker 5>tomlin does stays around five hundred. Or better butventually you

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<v Speaker 5>need a top pick to make that to make that

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<v Speaker 5>team have a.

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<v Speaker 6>BETTER team. I know i know that's the mindset of

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<v Speaker 6>every fan and every person that's sitting there and looking

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<v Speaker 6>at the longevity, and saying when are we going to

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<v Speaker 6>be able to lose to so we can move up

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<v Speaker 6>and maybe get another franchise quarterback and catch lightning in.

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<v Speaker 6>A bottle but like, you said and like, we know

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<v Speaker 6>there's no guarantees even if you're a top ten pick

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<v Speaker 6>in the draft as. A quarterback and to be fair

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<v Speaker 6>to everybody in that on that team and, that organization that,

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<v Speaker 6>coaching staff to say there's somebody out there that gives

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<v Speaker 6>us the best opportunity to win, right NOW then i

1:08:41.176 --> 1:08:43.696
<v Speaker 6>think they have to go. Do that and it's for

1:08:43.816 --> 1:08:46.136
<v Speaker 6>every guy in that, locker room for every, offensive lineman,

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<v Speaker 6>defensive lineman anybody else. THAT'S involved i would say that

1:08:49.736 --> 1:08:51.816
<v Speaker 6>it would be unfair to everybody in that organization, to,

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<v Speaker 6>say hey we have the option to go out and

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<v Speaker 6>get a better player, right now but we're not going

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<v Speaker 6>to do it because we're hopeful that next year we'll

1:09:01.096 --> 1:09:01.456
<v Speaker 6>get a better.

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<v Speaker 5>Draft pick but if you're ceiling as ten wins, but

1:09:06.176 --> 1:09:09.536
<v Speaker 5>ceiling if you're ceiling as ten Wins and rogers isn't

1:09:09.576 --> 1:09:10.896
<v Speaker 5>going to be there more than a, Year.

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<v Speaker 6>Two max.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't you think you owe it to, the fans to

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<v Speaker 5>the organization to give it a run to GET a

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<v Speaker 5>i won't say generational because that word's thrown around, too

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<v Speaker 5>much but the next two quarterback classes seem to be, Really,

1:09:25.736 --> 1:09:29.536
<v Speaker 5>good like don't you think that eventually you got to make?

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<v Speaker 6>That, call no not as not from a. PLAYER'S perspective,

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<v Speaker 6>i mean the other part about this is you can

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<v Speaker 6>always go into a draft and trade away not only

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<v Speaker 6>your first round pick if you want to, trade up

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<v Speaker 6>but trade away your next. Year's draft if you have

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<v Speaker 6>that player, in mind you're gonna have to make heavy

1:09:47.456 --> 1:09:51.896
<v Speaker 6>moves and have to make. Heavy sacrifices, but again for

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<v Speaker 6>the here and, the NOW there's i can't tell you

1:09:55.536 --> 1:09:57.256
<v Speaker 6>with a. Straight face as, A player i'm sitting, there

1:09:57.336 --> 1:09:58.856
<v Speaker 6>going let's go suck.

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<v Speaker 3>This year as, A player.

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<v Speaker 5>I agree i agree as, a player iry's more owner,

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<v Speaker 5>mentality though You know i'm.

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<v Speaker 6>Up here, oh yeah and the, owner, like hey the,

1:10:07.816 --> 1:10:10.056
<v Speaker 6>long term. We're good we're good in the. Long term,

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<v Speaker 6>let's crash crash. And burn this is prideful, organization, now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah but you can crash and burn, with dignity Like Starting.

1:10:18.056 --> 1:10:21.096
<v Speaker 6>Mason rudin that wouldn't be dignified if you went out

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<v Speaker 6>there and got your head. Beat in what are you?

1:10:22.816 --> 1:10:23.296
<v Speaker 6>Talking about?

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<v Speaker 5>Fair enough before, We, go kevin did you ever get

1:10:26.656 --> 1:10:30.376
<v Speaker 5>A d m from the person in the comments They

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<v Speaker 5>Said matt castle was?

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<v Speaker 3>THEIR daddy i, sure did, okay boom so just from.

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<v Speaker 6>HIS wife i thought it was a woman who.

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<v Speaker 4>Said, it no NOT what i, Thought TOO but i

1:10:41.136 --> 1:10:42.616
<v Speaker 4>guess there was. A guy but he doesn't have, social

1:10:42.656 --> 1:10:44.496
<v Speaker 4>media so he had to use His wife's instagram to

1:10:44.576 --> 1:10:47.456
<v Speaker 4>reach out. To me and we talked back and forth a.

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<v Speaker 8>Little bit send me. His address we're good.

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<v Speaker 5>To, go okay so We'll get castle to sign. The,

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<v Speaker 5>jersey sweet we'll get it out next week and then

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<v Speaker 5>we have one other one.

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<v Speaker 6>To do many know what'd you say? Last week but

1:10:58.336 --> 1:10:59.896
<v Speaker 6>you were going to say Something DIFFERENT.

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<v Speaker 5>Now i went with what. You Said matt castle. Is

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<v Speaker 5>Gorgeous matt castle is a. Gorgeous, man YEAH so i

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<v Speaker 5>do have a lot OF and i gotta say people.

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<v Speaker 5>Came through there were a lot. Of, them uh picking

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<v Speaker 5>number one. Through, thirteen.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh let's go with lucky, number seven, all, right, one, two, three,

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<v Speaker 6>four five.

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<v Speaker 5>Six Seven matt castle is a gorgeous human who is

1:11:23.256 --> 1:11:27.816
<v Speaker 5>to go to Podcasts with Bobby's. Phenomenal empire, We know

1:11:27.936 --> 1:11:32.976
<v Speaker 5>I'll Take zach love we, SEE you i. See you

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<v Speaker 5>if You, message kevin we will also get You A matt.

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<v Speaker 5>CASTLE signed i don't even know what team is. GONNA

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<v Speaker 5>be i got like a couple of at the house

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<v Speaker 5>that are like the yeah yeah from so we'll get

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<v Speaker 5>him to. Sign them we'll ship them.

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<v Speaker 8>Both, out okay do we know what we're Given the

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<v Speaker 8>his Name is lucas by, the Way. In germany the.

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<v Speaker 6>First guy we know what we're.

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<v Speaker 3>Giving, him yeah as Far as, jersey, WAS yeah i

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<v Speaker 3>GOT to i Got two.

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<v Speaker 6>Castle ones but we don't know.

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<v Speaker 8>WHICH team i, was, saying, no, No no we're gonna

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<v Speaker 8>have to find.

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<v Speaker 6>That out they're oping.

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<v Speaker 5>A closet i would have to bed, every Night so

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<v Speaker 5>i'll just take one of those that wear The.

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<v Speaker 8>Got bobby sweat, and, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah so Bobby's. Per yes thank you guys.

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<v Speaker 5>For being a part of the.

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<v Speaker 6>Show today we really.

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>Very Much He's, matt castle Kick off, Kevin Producing brandon

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<v Speaker 5>ray doing all. The Video I'm, Bobby bones who've had lots.

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<v Speaker 3>To say thank you guys for you.

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