Speaker 1: Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is
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Speaker 2: We got lots to say.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, we got lost.
Speaker 6: Just say.
Speaker 5: Now, here's Bobby that question because OTA's are happening now
Speaker 5: and I just listen. I didn't play at the level
Speaker 5: you did, but OTAs for me in high school would
Speaker 5: have been two days back when they could really grind, yeah,
Speaker 5: and everybody would just be eating banana, isn't throwing.
Speaker 6: Out Yeah, it's the The world of OTAs has changed
Speaker 6: so dramatically since I was in OTAs because there was
Speaker 6: a lot more physicality to it. And then when the
Speaker 6: new CBA happened, they put so many different restrictions in
Speaker 6: their phases. Right there, phase one where you can only
Speaker 6: be in the building for four hours you're literally working
Speaker 6: out and meeting with your coaches. And then as soon
Speaker 6: as that four hours you have to be out of
Speaker 6: the building. You can't go on the field, can't do anything.
Speaker 6: Then when you get to phase two, it's like on
Speaker 6: the field stuff where you get the practice for up
Speaker 6: to an hour. You have workouts and some meetings, so
Speaker 6: it's a little bit more of an extended time. But
Speaker 6: then OTA's actual starts and you're in there and it's
Speaker 6: more of a full day of just a prep work
Speaker 6: of practice, and I think you have up to fifteen
Speaker 6: OTAs is what it normally is, and so that's when
Speaker 6: it actually becomes more football oriented, where it's team sessions.
Speaker 6: They even will have like these drills. We call it
Speaker 6: nine on seven and it's run fit drills for defense
Speaker 6: and offense. But you're in no pads. You're just in helmets,
Speaker 6: and I think a lot of the guys, particularly in
Speaker 6: the interior part of the offense and defensive line, they
Speaker 6: hate it because you don't really have any pads on
Speaker 6: your shoulder, so but you still have the ability to
Speaker 6: get hit with a helmet on your shoulder, and guys
Speaker 6: are going full blast, and there's some young guys that
Speaker 6: are trying to go out there and prove a point.
Speaker 3: I think I's trying to make the team.
Speaker 6: Trying to make the team right. You always have those
Speaker 6: Johnny tryhards or are just guys that bring a different
Speaker 6: level of intensity. So you've got to bring it each
Speaker 6: and every day. But it's really when you start to
Speaker 6: set the fundamentals for playing the game of football. The
Speaker 6: unfortunate part is you start to see those fundamentals go
Speaker 6: down now in my belief, because dbs aren't allowed to
Speaker 6: press in the offseasons. That's one of the rules. So
Speaker 6: they actually have guidelines to how you can play the
Speaker 6: game of football in the physicality of it.
Speaker 5: So, okay, a couple of things. One is that though,
Speaker 5: to keep people from getting hurt one percent. Ok So,
Speaker 5: as much as we don't see a team round into
Speaker 5: shape maybe until week six or seven when it used
Speaker 5: to be maybe two or three, because they took preseason
Speaker 5: a little more serious there were more games.
Speaker 3: All that though, is to keep players healthier longer.
Speaker 6: That's exactly what the whole premise of what the CBA
Speaker 6: did was to help the longevity of these guys in
Speaker 6: their career and try to take away some of those
Speaker 6: injuries that were happening in the offseason. And so it's
Speaker 6: all guidelines to help the player and it's for the
Speaker 6: players benefit. At the same time, it sometimes will take
Speaker 6: away from getting actually ready to play football. So when
Speaker 6: you get to camp, I mean, that's when the real
Speaker 6: football starts.
Speaker 5: What about the conditioning because you show up, let's say
Speaker 5: you're out of shape.
Speaker 3: Yeah, is there a lot of throwing up?
Speaker 6: Oh, every year, you have guys that get back in
Speaker 6: the offseason. Look, some guys treat offseason it's my off season,
Speaker 6: and then they show up to offseason to get in shape.
Speaker 6: Then there's other guys that go through offseason and it's
Speaker 6: just this progression of getting ready to get into the
Speaker 6: off season. But they come in ready to go in shape.
Speaker 6: But when you get there that first day and they
Speaker 6: go on that first run, and a lot of times
Speaker 6: the strength and conditioning coaches that are trying to prove
Speaker 6: a point, and they'll hit you with gassers the first day,
Speaker 6: which is across the field and back, change the direction,
Speaker 6: and you're on a clock for your rest, and then
Speaker 6: you're running again, and you'll constantly see guys throwing up
Speaker 6: all the time.
Speaker 5: So do they force you to do an x amount
Speaker 5: of conditioning or do they test your condition to see
Speaker 5: where you fall?
Speaker 6: That's a good question. So when you get there for
Speaker 6: the off season, they're not testing your conditioning. Well, I
Speaker 6: think they're always trying to understand where you're at. But
Speaker 6: when you get to the off season, they're kind of
Speaker 6: putting you through different drills and they immediately notice who's
Speaker 6: in shape and who's not. But when you get to
Speaker 6: actual camp, they have a conditioning test, and every team's
Speaker 6: a little bit different. Like when I was in New England,
Speaker 6: we had the skill players ran sixties and it was
Speaker 6: thirty second rest. We had to run twenty sixties with
Speaker 6: a two minute rest at ten. Then all of a
Speaker 6: sudden I got to Kansas City. They did the three
Speaker 6: hundred yard shuttle, which is by far the worst of
Speaker 6: all the conditioning tests because that one hundred hundred, No,
Speaker 6: it's fifty back, fifty back, fifty back. And some coaches
Speaker 6: when I was in Tennessee, Coach Watterson, if you're listening,
Speaker 6: still didn't like you for this. He'd changed it to
Speaker 6: go twenty five back, so it was six times down
Speaker 6: and back. It's brutal and you should see the suffering
Speaker 6: that takes place or some of these big guys. I mean,
Speaker 6: there's three hundred and sixty pounds. Should you really have
Speaker 6: to run three hundred yards? I never understood it because
Speaker 6: we play at cardiovascular sport, where you run, you stop,
Speaker 6: hit your breath, you'd go again, right, play after play there,
Speaker 6: it's just a brutal conditioning test. It's all timed and
Speaker 6: if you don't make that, then you're up at six
Speaker 6: am the next day. You're in the building and they're
Speaker 6: putting you through conditioning, getting you ready, and then you
Speaker 6: have to run that conditioning test again again when they
Speaker 6: feel like you're fit.
Speaker 5: So if you're not conditioned and you do not pass
Speaker 5: the test, they will then condition you enough that you
Speaker 5: pass the test. Well, they continue to do it until
Speaker 5: you pass the test.
Speaker 6: They won't let you practice until you pass the test.
Speaker 6: So that's kind of the main thing that almost every
Speaker 6: organization has is if you don't pass that test, then
Speaker 6: you're in and I forget the club. They called it
Speaker 6: in the morning, but you've got to wake up early,
Speaker 6: go in it and they're doing conditioning and then you've
Speaker 6: got to run that test again.
Speaker 5: I was watching the highlights of what I would call
Speaker 5: the French Open in tennis, but I think now it
Speaker 5: has like a name like roll On Get Arrows Classic.
Speaker 3: It's one of the major for me that it was easy.
Speaker 5: It was a French Open and so they played a
Speaker 5: five hour and forty minute match. Unbelievable that Alkaaz And
Speaker 5: again I don't keep up with tennis nearly as close
Speaker 5: as I used to because one of my buddies used
Speaker 5: to play, and he'd play in the French Andy Rottick,
Speaker 5: who's been on the show. It was his worst because
Speaker 5: the clay took a lot of the heat off the
Speaker 5: ball and meaning it was slow, and he was known
Speaker 5: for a very fast serve. So the French you had
Speaker 5: to move well, which is really why an Adull dominated,
Speaker 5: Like he could still hit it well, but he could
Speaker 5: move wonderfully. So they retired na dolls like footprints, and
Speaker 5: I'm going to mess some of this up, but they
Speaker 5: end up having This is going to be a two
Speaker 5: parter here, but it was a five hour and forty
Speaker 5: minute match, and I was watching Rodick on his podcast
Speaker 5: talk about how tennis players are really some of the
Speaker 5: best athletes because they're doing it by themselves. And basketball
Speaker 5: players they're running back and forth, but they've got other people,
Speaker 5: they got teams, they're set where tennis players.
Speaker 6: Are just going, going, going.
Speaker 5: But it was again almost six hours and he's pointing
Speaker 5: at the clock going almost six hours, and it was
Speaker 5: a crazy comeback, meaning he was down and like the
Speaker 5: fifth said it was like five to one. Don't know
Speaker 5: exactly what it was, but it was one of the
Speaker 5: greatest comebacks ever in major tennis history. And so I
Speaker 5: was thinking about that as far as I think some
Speaker 5: of the great comebacks ever, and I do think of
Speaker 5: And you weren't on the you weren't part of the
Speaker 5: twenty three Patriots Falcons.
Speaker 6: No, I was not. Remember I told you I never
Speaker 6: got a ring, right, Yeah, that's a few episodes, Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, yeah.
Speaker 3: What was your greatest comeback ever?
Speaker 6: Greatest coming and it can be.
Speaker 5: Ever high school? I would say college. We didn't start
Speaker 5: in college. I could be high school or NFL.
Speaker 6: Who needs a certain college when you go to.
Speaker 5: The process exactly high school to the pros, you basically
Speaker 5: were lebron People don't look they don't.
Speaker 3: Look at you like that going high school to the pros,
Speaker 3: and I.
Speaker 6: Think that's unfair. You know, one of the greatest comebacks
Speaker 6: I can remember. I was in Kansas City. We were
Speaker 6: playing the Indianapolis Colts, and I believe it was second quarter.
Speaker 6: We're down like twenty one to six something like that,
Speaker 6: and that's a pretty significant deficit, even if you have
Speaker 6: a full half to play and we went down scored
Speaker 6: before half to close the gap a little. It might
Speaker 6: even been twenty eight to seven at that point, so
Speaker 6: we went down scored before half, and then we just
Speaker 6: went out in the second half and absolutely changed the tides.
Speaker 6: Momentum kind of switched to us and we started rolling
Speaker 6: a little bit, and then the next thing you know,
Speaker 6: we ended up coming all the way back and I
Speaker 6: think we won that game by three points. But it
Speaker 6: was phenomenal because every possession matters. When you're down like that,
Speaker 6: you can't make those silly mistakes, and you can't punt
Speaker 6: too many times and give the ball back to them
Speaker 6: because they can eat up clock, run out the time,
Speaker 6: do all that. So we just kind of started hitting
Speaker 6: on all cylinders and we started running the ball well,
Speaker 6: but I was throwing the ball, and we came back
Speaker 6: from behind, and it was phenomenal. I mean, And there's
Speaker 6: something special about the locker room when you have a
Speaker 6: come from a hind victory, because everybody has to rally
Speaker 6: together and do their job and do it at a
Speaker 6: high level, but also not blink in the face of
Speaker 6: adversity because you face those things all the time, and
Speaker 6: some of those games just get out of hand and
Speaker 6: you just see it go totally south right. You can't
Speaker 6: come back from that. Guys are sitting there pissed off
Speaker 6: on the sideline and they're in the wrong headspace, but
Speaker 6: guys focused in and then you get into that locker room,
Speaker 6: and especially being on the road, there's something significant about
Speaker 6: being on the road against all odds, chaotic environment, crowds
Speaker 6: against you, and then to come and win that game
Speaker 6: and go in locker room in a celebration in the faces,
Speaker 6: and then to get on that bus. There's no better
Speaker 6: feeling in football.
Speaker 3: In honor of the Rolling Garris. What's it called French
Speaker 3: Open and Rolling Garris?
Speaker 6: Is it?
Speaker 3: They called it open?
Speaker 5: The Spectacular, the no, no, no, I know it's called
Speaker 5: Rolling Garris, but I'm saying that it is a French Open.
Speaker 3: They still call it French Open.
Speaker 5: Some people do both, do okay, Castle and I called
Speaker 5: French Open?
Speaker 6: Yeahah. Have you ever been to a big tennis match?
Speaker 6: I haven't, and I've always wanted to go. I heard
Speaker 6: it's a great environment. I don't think I do well
Speaker 6: there because I'm uncomfortable in silence. So like you know,
Speaker 6: like none of the crowds.
Speaker 5: You do a golf you've ever been to like a
Speaker 5: golf tournament, I have, Okay, it's same, you'll have me
Speaker 5: silent for a minute.
Speaker 6: I went to the Open at LA country Club and
Speaker 6: the US Open, the US Open. Yeah sorry, I mean
Speaker 6: we're talking French Open, the US Up in US Open
Speaker 6: at LA country Club. But they had like those little
Speaker 6: suites that you could sit in. Yeah, it's a full
Speaker 6: on party. It's awesome. And while you have to be
Speaker 6: quiet when you're walking around doing all that and somebody's
Speaker 6: holding up the sign, it was chaotic.
Speaker 5: I mean, tennis is interesting because you can't even walk
Speaker 5: in the stadium during a point. Really, they have people
Speaker 5: blocking the exits or the entrances to leave or go
Speaker 5: out because while the point's going, they don't want any
Speaker 5: distraction happening.
Speaker 6: Do They serve beer and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 6: So it's a normal sporting event ish, just no talking. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I went to if you actually travel with a Rodick
Speaker 5: a little bit to go to his events. So in
Speaker 5: honor of that and honor raft in the Dolls probably
Speaker 5: the second greatest of all time. I think Djokovic took
Speaker 5: it over n Doll. I used to be Federer. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but I think the doll over took Federal Who cares?
Speaker 5: But I have best lefties of all time because the
Speaker 5: doll is a lefty.
Speaker 6: Oh and you're a lefty. That's true.
Speaker 3: Well, that's what why I came to mind.
Speaker 5: Yes, let's talk my big list of the top nine
Speaker 5: sports lefties of all time. Ready, At nine, I put
Speaker 5: in a doll because I don't give a craft by tennis.
Speaker 6: No, I love it.
Speaker 3: And at eight I put never Tolova because I don't
Speaker 3: give a craft by tennis.
Speaker 6: Okay, that's fair.
Speaker 5: I understand why tennis is awesome, but I personally it's
Speaker 5: like F one. I'm sure there's something to it. I
Speaker 5: give a crap. I don't know enough about it. Wasn't
Speaker 5: raised around it.
Speaker 6: I also love the fact that in tennis you could
Speaker 6: be righty or lefty and you don't really get penalized
Speaker 6: for being lefty. In baseball, you can hit left hand
Speaker 6: and you don't get penalized for that. But you're really
Speaker 6: you can only play first base. It sucks. And have
Speaker 6: you ever have you ever seen a catcher's left handed catcher?
Speaker 5: So in softball for the first time in college softball,
Speaker 5: one of the catchers got hurt at Arkansas and the
Speaker 5: utility player is left handed, and so she got behind
Speaker 5: the plate and caught an inning. Really yeah, but I
Speaker 5: was left handed. I could never catch right you. I
Speaker 5: could only play the outfield, first base.
Speaker 6: Or pitch. That's it. That's it limited. I mean, it
Speaker 6: is a right handed sport. Yeah. And then the other thing.
Speaker 6: I think we had this discussion, but there's never been
Speaker 6: a left handed center. I can't think of one.
Speaker 3: There probably has been in football.
Speaker 6: In football, I've never played with a left handed center.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that was a thing. A rider or
Speaker 3: left handed center.
Speaker 6: I've never played with. Why would that matter. I have
Speaker 6: no idea how the ball comes up, and I've never
Speaker 6: played with one, so I don't know. But it was
Speaker 6: interesting to me because I was thinking about that. I
Speaker 6: was like, I've never played with a left handed center,
Speaker 6: and you'd think that there would be at least one
Speaker 6: lefty big boy up there that played center before. I
Speaker 6: don't think I would even notice. Yeah, how about that?
Speaker 3: What about soccer?
Speaker 6: Ever? Go to any soccer matches? Know enough about soccer.
Speaker 6: I have been to a soccer match and I forget
Speaker 6: who was playing. It was one of those exhibition games.
Speaker 6: Somebody from Europe came over to play the team from
Speaker 6: New England their professional soccer game. It was awesome because
Speaker 6: the following from the European teams and all that stuff.
Speaker 6: It just those people are so passionate and they bring
Speaker 6: their signs and their jerseys and they're all their different chants,
Speaker 6: so it was it was an incredible experience. Is that
Speaker 6: your Lett Stadium?
Speaker 5: Soccer's lost on me? And I understand why people love it,
Speaker 5: but I wasn't raised around it. So that's why I
Speaker 5: put Messy at seven left footed.
Speaker 6: I mean Messy at seven.
Speaker 5: I don't know if I again, what a me to
Speaker 5: put a cricket player in there. I don't know about cricket.
Speaker 5: Those guys are pretty skilled, let's I agree. Who also
Speaker 5: skilled brain surgeon? And if I did a left hand
Speaker 5: of brain surgeon, you know what you're talking about?
Speaker 6: Sports?
Speaker 3: I don't know them. I have Messy at seven.
Speaker 5: I got a lot of baseball guys Babe, Ruth, Lefty
Speaker 5: and batter overrated or no or just black and white.
Speaker 5: And since it's black and white, we really can't tell.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I think it's a generational thing. And at his time,
Speaker 6: he was the Michael Jordan, the little bron James, the
Speaker 6: whoever you want, Tom Brady of his time, larger than
Speaker 6: life figure and never look he never looked the part.
Speaker 6: Let's say say that, but the big band Bieno could.
Speaker 5: Crush Randy Johnson. Gosh, was there not a seven foot
Speaker 5: tall cooler shot.
Speaker 6: Of when he hit that pigeon midair and bloated Ken
Speaker 6: Griffey Jr. One of the sweetest things you'll ever see.
Speaker 6: It was just pure joy.
Speaker 3: So this is my hot take as I put Barry
Speaker 3: Bonds in.
Speaker 6: I was there.
Speaker 5: I think Barry Bonds was better at baseball than Michael
Speaker 5: Jordan was at basketball.
Speaker 6: M that is a bold statement. I agree, really bold statement.
Speaker 5: Barry Bonds is the best at a sport that we
Speaker 5: in America have ever seen a ballplayer be at their sport.
Speaker 6: Well, I think as a hitter because Jordan was such
Speaker 6: an all around I agree with that. But yes, and
Speaker 6: the games are so dramatically different. So Barry Bonds comes
Speaker 6: up to bat four times every game, Michael Jordan's on
Speaker 6: the court for you know, the duration of it in
Speaker 6: for four quarters. It's just such a different sport. It's
Speaker 6: so hard to compare. But the greatness of Barry Bonds
Speaker 6: and his ability to see pitches and hit the ball
Speaker 6: the way that he did in his hand eye coordination.
Speaker 5: I mean, it is just remarkable and the way that
Speaker 5: I would compare them, much like generationally, I think you
Speaker 5: can only compare And I think you said this earlier
Speaker 5: athletes to other athletes in their generation, because I think
Speaker 5: it's unfair to put King Gripy Jr.
Speaker 3: Against fab Ruth. They didn't play the technology.
Speaker 6: He was the same pitching, batting, everything else.
Speaker 5: And I think I think you can only compare the
Speaker 5: greats versus the other greats at that time. So Michael Jordan,
Speaker 5: who else was great during Jordan's era, Kim Olajuan kar Malone.
Speaker 5: I think Jordan was far better than those guys, But
Speaker 5: I think Bonds was so much better than the next
Speaker 5: guy up at two uhs.
Speaker 6: Unbelievable because when you had Bonds, you had the Samy
Speaker 6: so so you have the Mark McGuire's. You had all
Speaker 6: these incredible power hitters. But he wasn't just only a
Speaker 6: power hitter. I mean he could hit for average as well.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 6: They wouldn't throw the ball to him to hit. And
Speaker 6: it's such a good eye, like they he made them
Speaker 6: throw pitches. I think he was one of those guys
Speaker 6: that would lead the league in walks every year. Too.
Speaker 5: He wore all that equipment. You know, he would go
Speaker 5: up and look like a robot covered in armor. And
Speaker 5: the reason he wore so much on his right arm
Speaker 5: was because the only spot they could find a weakness
Speaker 5: was under his arm. Is about half the size of
Speaker 5: the baseball. And you know a lot of players, they
Speaker 5: can find like a whole area imagine nine squared where
Speaker 5: and there's like one, two, three, which of the cold
Speaker 5: areas hot areas, And they could chase those areas with Bonds.
Speaker 5: They said it was half the size of a single
Speaker 5: baseball and it was only under his arm. So he
Speaker 5: wore all that because the people kept throwing under his
Speaker 5: arm whenever they would actually try to throw to him,
Speaker 5: so it kept getting hit in the freaking elbow. So
Speaker 5: I put Bonds as my one of my greatest lefties ever.
Speaker 5: I put James Harden in there in there for basketball players.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Steve Young, Steve Young, You've got to go
Speaker 5: with Stevie michael Vick left handed.
Speaker 6: You put him at what parted on the list.
Speaker 5: Well, then I just got lost on I just started
Speaker 5: doing numbers because I did have a number, and then
Speaker 5: I just started going, you know, I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 5: And Michael Vick and then at golf had Phil Mickelson.
Speaker 5: Phil Michelson, okay, I can I can dig that.
Speaker 6: And I had Ronda Rowsey in UFC. Oh, she was
Speaker 6: trailblazer man. She she brought all the attention to women
Speaker 6: in the UFC and was a headliner, the first headliner
Speaker 6: right female event, and she consistently sold out crowds and
Speaker 6: till she didn't. But at the same time, nobody could
Speaker 6: beat that girl. I mean, you'd never seen anything that
Speaker 6: everybody would tune in. I would tune in.
Speaker 3: She got so big as a UFC fighter.
Speaker 5: She went to WWE as a female because only brock
Speaker 5: Lessener really had done that successful and said, the other
Speaker 5: guys that tried to like wrestle and go to UFC,
Speaker 5: do you But she was the one to really go
Speaker 5: superstar to superstar as a woman.
Speaker 6: And then the other part is you're like, Ronda, can
Speaker 6: you please take it down? You're seriously hurting me, Like
Speaker 6: the ww wrestlers like, please, oh my god. If you
Speaker 6: if she opened up a real can of web blessing them.
Speaker 6: Can you imagine just like Lesser, dude, oh Brock. We
Speaker 6: went to the one in Nashville. Was it SummerSlam or
Speaker 6: whatever it was, and it was he and Roman Reigns
Speaker 6: were going head to head. And when you actually watch
Speaker 6: proco Lessner get in it, I mean, the guy is
Speaker 6: an absolute monster. And he started like cartoon characters. Oh
Speaker 6: he starts picking him up. But some of those some
Speaker 6: of those moves that you see when they kind of
Speaker 6: help and they jump up rock, Lesser would pick any
Speaker 6: man up and just ruin them.
Speaker 3: Are your stats for your comeback? Four touchdowns, two hundred
Speaker 3: fifty yards.
Speaker 6: I'll take it. Let's go, good day. Dwayne Bow made
Speaker 6: an incredible catch too. I underthrew the hell out of
Speaker 6: a fade rout and he went up, tipped the ball up,
Speaker 6: tip the ball up, got it. I was like, yes,
Speaker 6: thank you, Dwayne. That's legit, that's legit.
Speaker 3: He seemed like a big body dude.
Speaker 6: Oh dude, he was a beast and I had to
Speaker 6: get used to that because when we were in New England,
Speaker 6: Randy was a big body dude. But Randy would beat
Speaker 6: you with speed down the field right, and Dwayne was
Speaker 6: a big body dude. But at the same time, bo
Speaker 6: would run and if he got even he was ready
Speaker 6: for that backshore because he'd love to go up and
Speaker 6: use his body and protect the ball and go up
Speaker 6: and get it. So we got really good at throwing
Speaker 6: that back shore. So as soon as I found out
Speaker 6: that a dB wasn't going to look back and track
Speaker 6: the ball, I was going to get that ball out
Speaker 6: of my hands as coy as I could, and he
Speaker 6: would attack it because he was just a big target.
Speaker 3: Another play that never seems to work is that fade
Speaker 3: from the two yard line.
Speaker 6: It's a tough play, especially if you're in shotgun, because
Speaker 6: it's such a quick reaction play. You usually don't get
Speaker 6: the laces, and a lot of these guys at the
Speaker 6: wide receiver position sometimes they're not patient enough. So the
Speaker 6: biggest part of running that from a detail orient standpoint
Speaker 6: is you have to close cushion because a lot of
Speaker 6: those those dbs will sit at like that one to
Speaker 6: two yards in the end zone, so they're reacting to you.
Speaker 6: But you've got to go down and give them like
Speaker 6: two or three stutter steps because now you can go
Speaker 6: in and cross their face. But then you also give
Speaker 6: the quarterback the ability to grab that ball, especially in shotgun,
Speaker 6: and then put it back there because a lot of
Speaker 6: times it's just so rushed and the dB can close
Speaker 6: cushion on you. But if you go down, get to
Speaker 6: them to where you give them that two way go
Speaker 6: and then be patient with it, then it gives you
Speaker 6: the ability to throw that ball up over the top.
Speaker 3: They find close cushion.
Speaker 6: So when I say close cushion, there's that little cushion
Speaker 6: that they have. When I said that, there were say
Speaker 6: we're at the two yard line, they're going to sit
Speaker 6: about that one yards deep into the end zone. You
Speaker 6: need to get on their toes and threaten them right
Speaker 6: now because they don't know whether you're going to run
Speaker 6: in or run by them. But if you just you
Speaker 6: kind of close cushion, but or you take your step
Speaker 6: too far away, that guy just drives you to the
Speaker 6: sideline because he's reacting to that. But if you close
Speaker 6: cushion and make him stop his to him, get to him,
Speaker 6: stop his feet. Now when you excel accelerate to go
Speaker 6: to the back end line, now I can throw it
Speaker 6: up over the top end you've got a step. But
Speaker 6: if you do it too quick or you give it away.
Speaker 6: Now that those dbs are so reactionary that they can
Speaker 6: close and play hands and get the ball.
Speaker 5: Did you like if it was fourth or fourth and one,
Speaker 5: fourth and two that they'd call the fade in the corner?
Speaker 6: You know there was fourth and two. I would rather
Speaker 6: have a concept to where you've got an over under,
Speaker 6: and now it's based on the team because a lot
Speaker 6: of times when you're down on the red zone, it's
Speaker 6: either max pressure or max coverage, and so we'd call
Speaker 6: two plays in the huddle. So we'd have our combination
Speaker 6: route where it's a tight end on a shallow cross,
Speaker 6: and then you've got the back end line because you're
Speaker 6: either throwing low on the front or high in the back,
Speaker 6: so you're trying to get that dB and see what
Speaker 6: he's going to do. That safety usually if they're too
Speaker 6: high and they're in coverage to come up on your
Speaker 6: shallow cross because he's got coverage on him. As soon
Speaker 6: as he does that, you're throwing high over his head
Speaker 6: in the back end line, and then you've got another
Speaker 6: concept back. So it's kind of like a progression read.
Speaker 6: But as soon as you see pressure, I have the
Speaker 6: ability to go alert alert, I check to him ex
Speaker 6: protection set the man protection. You're giving a two man
Speaker 6: route here and usually a fade or something on the
Speaker 6: back side, and so you get you pick up your matchup.
Speaker 5: If you're calling two plays in the huddle, are you
Speaker 5: calling one play and saying if we change, we're changing
Speaker 5: to the second play, or like, how does that work?
Speaker 6: So I'd so, for example, i'd call trips right sixty four,
Speaker 6: sticks X and ZD per turn alert, I'd say alert
Speaker 6: eighty and we'd usually like go rock X fade or
Speaker 6: something like that, and that would tell. So if I
Speaker 6: say alert in the huddle, and they already know if
Speaker 6: I say alert, we're not changing formations. We're just changing protection,
Speaker 6: and then that's what we're going to the or the
Speaker 6: two man route is going to be rock and that's
Speaker 6: just a return in a corner, and then the one
Speaker 6: man route, I'll just tag X fade. So as soon
Speaker 6: as I get to line of scrimmage, I'm gonna double
Speaker 6: cadence it. So I'm gonna give you a dummy cadence.
Speaker 6: Blue Lady Blue Dy said hot Hot. Hopefully they show
Speaker 6: me a little indication of what they're gonna do. And
Speaker 6: if I think that they're pressuring I'm going to go.
Speaker 6: I just go alert alert, alert alert. Oh maha, blue goat.
Speaker 6: And everybody should be on the same page because that
Speaker 6: is a rehearsed action that goes that we do time
Speaker 6: and time again in practice.
Speaker 3: How annoying would it be if there was no play
Speaker 3: yet someone still jumped.
Speaker 6: Oh, it happens all the time. Oh, you're saying like,
Speaker 6: if you had.
Speaker 3: No play, you are going to go up, And he said,
Speaker 3: use a dummy call.
Speaker 5: Yes, so you're not calling anything at first, there's no
Speaker 5: reason to jump because you haven't actually called the play.
Speaker 6: Well, no, the play is sixty four sticks X and
Speaker 6: ZD purturn. If you go, ah huh right, Well, that's
Speaker 6: what gets guys because they sometimes they're in their own worlds.
Speaker 6: And so when you're going up, even if I say
Speaker 6: a double cadence here, or we used to have a
Speaker 6: word called molasses, and I try to come up and
Speaker 6: say momo momo, reminding these guys. But every now and
Speaker 6: then there's movement on the defensive line and there see
Speaker 6: something coming and they jump out of a stance and
Speaker 6: you're like, oh my god. And then that's the worst
Speaker 6: possible right, you're on the two yard line, you do
Speaker 6: a double cadence to try to get them to show
Speaker 6: you something, and then you're five yards further back and you're.
Speaker 5: Like, ah, was there ever grace given to a hold
Speaker 5: because you knew everybody held all the time, or at
Speaker 5: least they could call a hold all the time, or
Speaker 5: were you just irritated every time?
Speaker 6: I mean, the worst part about the hold is a
Speaker 6: ten yard penalty, and it's a drive killer every single time.
Speaker 6: And some of these are questionable calls. And the thing
Speaker 6: that hurts the most is when you're driving, say you're
Speaker 6: about midfield or something like that, and you have a
Speaker 6: big play, especially a pass, because I'm selfish and I
Speaker 6: want the passing yards and everything to look good for me. No,
Speaker 6: I'm just kidding. But you get a holding call and
Speaker 6: now you're ten yards back and that whole play is
Speaker 6: taken away, and now you're second and twenty. There's not
Speaker 6: a lot of good calls. I'm telling you, second twenty.
Speaker 6: You're trying to get back on track to get you
Speaker 6: to a manageable third down. But when you're third and twenty,
Speaker 6: you can't hold the ball long enough because all those
Speaker 6: guys have their earspinned back ready to come crush you.
Speaker 5: But are you irritated the lineman for holding or are
Speaker 5: you like, well, any lineman could almost be called for
Speaker 5: a hold at any time.
Speaker 6: You know, it's part of the game. Now, if it's
Speaker 6: something that shows up consistently, then I really don't have
Speaker 6: to say anything. Now. There there's maybe an occasional time,
Speaker 6: particularly in a four minute drill. When you're in a
Speaker 6: four minute drill, what you're trying to do is run
Speaker 6: the ball consistently and take off time, okay, And I
Speaker 6: will tell them when I come in the huddle, I'll say, hey, look,
Speaker 6: no holding, no offsides, Let's just get the ball moving forward.
Speaker 6: Even if we get stopped for a negative game, that's
Speaker 6: fine with us as long as that clock's running. But
Speaker 6: when you have an off sides penalty or you have
Speaker 6: a holding in particular and you're ten yards back, it's
Speaker 6: not so much about the yardage because even if we punt,
Speaker 6: that's okay, it stops the clock, and that's really those
Speaker 6: kind of details of the game, especially when you're trying
Speaker 6: to close out a game, are crucial.
Speaker 5: Now, let's get over and talk with two times Super
Speaker 5: Bowl champion and Kansas City Chief Trey Smith. Trey went
Speaker 5: from a sixth round draft pick starting every game as
Speaker 5: a rookie in twenty.
Speaker 6: Twenty one with the Chiefs.
Speaker 3: Now is one of the best guards in the league easily.
Speaker 5: He's a pro bowler, by the way, at two times
Speaker 5: first team All SEC at Tennessee. Made a cameo in
Speaker 5: a Hamewark movie last year. He also hosts a youth
Speaker 5: football camp at Tennessee every year.
Speaker 6: We'll talk about that as well.
Speaker 5: So big thanks to Trey for coming on here. He
Speaker 5: is Kansas City Chief Great Trey Smith. Hey, Trey, appreciate
Speaker 5: the time. Hey, first off, I should say Jackson, Tennessee's
Speaker 5: own Tray Smith.
Speaker 6: Come on there, Trey. I'm a big fan of yours.
Speaker 6: You've got an incredible story. My first question is what
Speaker 6: was more nerve wracking for you starting your freshman year
Speaker 6: at ut, starting as a rookie for the Chiefs, or
Speaker 6: you know, making that cameo appearance, appearance in the Hallmark movie.
Speaker 2: I would say the Hallmark movie was scary.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 2: I went into it.
Speaker 7: They didn't tell me how to be speaking lines. I'm
Speaker 7: over here thinking, like you know, I'll just be over
Speaker 7: here getting some water by the water cooler in my uniform,
Speaker 7: just in the background of the movie. But you know
Speaker 7: I showed up there. They're like, no, you have these
Speaker 7: lines you have to remember. I'm like, okay, no one
Speaker 7: told me about this. But I would say I was
Speaker 7: nerve racking. But ultimately I would say playing for the Chiefs,
Speaker 7: you know, seven into a winning culture. Blocking for a
Speaker 7: guy like Patrick Mahomes, you know, you're seven to a
Speaker 7: winning atmosphere and a standard that had already been set.
Speaker 7: So I think living up to that as a rookie,
Speaker 7: you know, starting NFL, playing against grown men with family
Speaker 7: and children that depend on them, that was definitely a
Speaker 7: little more nerve racking than me.
Speaker 3: I want to talk about the off season for a second.
Speaker 5: We were just talking with Castle about how some guys
Speaker 5: just take off and some guys slowly get back into it,
Speaker 5: and some guys go hard the entire offseason. At what
Speaker 5: point after the year is finished, do you start to
Speaker 5: get yourself back into shape, to get back into shape?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think Mitchell Schwartz at O Line Masterminds, it's
Speaker 7: an event in the summit that we hold every year
Speaker 7: in Dallas. Offensive linemen from every level Collegiate Pros Hall
Speaker 7: of Fame, you name it. You know, they come and
Speaker 7: give us a little words of wisdoms and tidbits at
Speaker 7: of your game. And I really love what Mitchell Schwartz
Speaker 7: said in terms of stay ready, so you don't have
Speaker 7: to get ready so pretty much year round. You never
Speaker 7: want to get too far out of shape. I would
Speaker 7: say after my rookie year, you know, once the ABC
Speaker 7: Championship game, and you know it's a long time of football.
Speaker 7: You talk about draft prep all the way through the season.
Speaker 7: The longest season I ever had. You know, I felt
Speaker 7: like I wanted to take some time off, and I
Speaker 7: felt like I took too much time off. So for me,
Speaker 7: I try to take about two to three weeks of
Speaker 7: just you know, eating bad, enjoying life, seeing family, but
Speaker 7: then trying to get back into it, doing cardio and
Speaker 7: different things just to keep the body moving and saying
Speaker 7: in decent shape. So I would say every year you
Speaker 7: refine it and you tune it up. For me personally,
Speaker 7: I like it to where I don't get too far
Speaker 7: out there, but every guy's different. That's where it been
Speaker 7: my formula.
Speaker 6: You know, you talked about the draft process, and I
Speaker 6: thought It was pretty interesting because as a four year
Speaker 6: starter at ut and then getting drafted in the sixth round,
Speaker 6: was that something when you got drafted in the sixth
Speaker 6: round coming out you felt like you had something to
Speaker 6: prove or a little chip on your shoulder because of
Speaker 6: the success that you had in college.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely did. Man.
Speaker 7: I didn't expect to go that low in the draft,
Speaker 7: but at the end of the day, you know, God
Speaker 7: blessed me with the opportunity. That's all I needed. So
Speaker 7: when I got that one shot, I want to make
Speaker 7: sure it's stuck. I wanted to make sure that teams
Speaker 7: that passed up on me, teams that didn't think the
Speaker 7: juice was worth the squeeze, that I wasn't good enough
Speaker 7: to play for them. I wanted them to feel that
Speaker 7: every single time I stuffed them in the field. And
Speaker 7: I think just as a competitor, just having that nature
Speaker 7: in that edge as an athlete, you always want to
Speaker 7: prove people wrong. And for my life, a lot of
Speaker 7: people have to hold me things that I couldn't do,
Speaker 7: goals that I could never accomplish. I'd never be good
Speaker 7: enough to attain those or succeed. And I just had
Speaker 7: something to prove every single time I stuff them in
Speaker 7: that field, I wanted them to feel.
Speaker 5: That when you went to Tennessee you started immediately. Did
Speaker 5: you know you were going to start immediately? Or do
Speaker 5: some things fall and all of a sudden you're a
Speaker 5: freshman who's got to go.
Speaker 7: No, I didn't really think I was going to start immediately.
Speaker 7: I knew I was gonna have to fight and compete
Speaker 7: for a job. I knew I was highly ranked, highly recruited.
Speaker 7: A lot of guys and teams wanted me, but I
Speaker 7: knew it was gonna be a hard battle to get there.
Speaker 7: When I got to Tennessee and I sort of saw
Speaker 7: where I was stacking up in the spring practice, how
Speaker 7: I was competing and seeing that you know, there's a
Speaker 7: legitimate shot and a chance for me to play, and
Speaker 7: then you know, ultimately it worked out in my favor.
Speaker 6: No. I know, going your sophomore year, you started eight games,
Speaker 6: but then you had to end the season early because
Speaker 6: of blood clots. Can you talk to us a little
Speaker 6: bit about what you're going through during those challenging times
Speaker 6: and how it shaped your mindset moving forward and as
Speaker 6: both on and off the field.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a it's a long arge with story man.
Speaker 7: You know what happened after my freshman year, you know,
Speaker 7: had a lot of success, started every game, all sec whatever,
Speaker 7: and then our coaching staff, Coach Jones and his entire
Speaker 7: staff gets fired. So incomes and Jeremy Pruitt, completely different
Speaker 7: coaching staff, and as y'all know in the sporting world,
Speaker 7: they're trying to break you every single time to figure
Speaker 7: out who's going to be the nucleus of this team,
Speaker 7: who are we going to build, who are our team
Speaker 7: leaders going to be. So we did maddurials every day,
Speaker 7: and then there was the workouts trying to break you.
Speaker 7: And I remember, like the first couple of weeks having
Speaker 7: no problem with it, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 7: like during conditioning, I passed out and just not really
Speaker 7: understanding what's wrong with me and telling my doctor I've
Speaker 7: lost thirteen pounds in a day. I feel awful. I
Speaker 7: can barely walk to the library. It's like four hundred
Speaker 7: yards wi having to stop and catch my breath. And
Speaker 7: you know, ultimately they figured out that I have blood
Speaker 7: clots and both sides of my lungs, like a really
Speaker 7: severe case of it for me. I think that was devastating,
Speaker 7: just trying to figure out what's the next move, next direction.
Speaker 7: At the time, the doctor told me, you know, we
Speaker 7: don't know if you're able to play. If you get
Speaker 7: blood clots again, not only can they be fatal, but
Speaker 7: you'll never play football again. So for pretty much five
Speaker 7: to six months, I had to do every study hall,
Speaker 7: every practice, every workout, every meeting without really knowing that
Speaker 7: I was going to play that season. And ultimately, you know,
Speaker 7: they cleared me to play, got through about halfway point
Speaker 7: of the season that said you have blood clots again,
Speaker 7: and for me, it was just like one of the
Speaker 7: darkest moments. You know, football is taking away from me,
Speaker 7: like what's my next direction? And you know, I just landed.
Speaker 7: I loaned on my faith just to bring me through it.
Speaker 7: There are a lot of dark days, a lot of
Speaker 7: dark times, and it was a tough process and ultimately,
Speaker 7: you know, we got with the doctor that created a
Speaker 7: medical plan and never been done in a contact sport before,
Speaker 7: where I was taking bloodthnder every single day of the
Speaker 7: week and then coming off it a Friday morning and
Speaker 7: playing on Saturday. So I had no contact practices. I
Speaker 7: wasn't able to practice all I could do was walk
Speaker 7: through workout and watch film. So it was a whole
Speaker 7: different process to adapt and try to prepare for that.
Speaker 7: But for me, I just wanted to play the game,
Speaker 7: you know, I knew I wanted to be a football
Speaker 7: player since kindergarten. So for me, it's all about reaching
Speaker 7: that dream, to aspire to be an NFL player, to
Speaker 7: keep playing the game, and once again just proving people wrong.
Speaker 5: This will probably be an uneducated question, but did that
Speaker 5: at all affect your draft stock two years later?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's probably one of the most negative things about
Speaker 7: I mean, it was hard to explain to a coach
Speaker 7: or an organization, Like imagine trying to tell Bill Belichick
Speaker 7: at the time, Hey, coach, I can't practice. I can
Speaker 7: go play for you, but there's no wile practice. So
Speaker 7: for them it was like, Okay, this kid can't practice,
Speaker 7: how's he gonna get better, how's he gonna how's he
Speaker 7: gonna develop? We can't even develop this kid if you
Speaker 7: can't play. So it was a long journey trying to
Speaker 7: tell teams your story, and there's so much background that
Speaker 7: goes into the story that a lot of teams didn't
Speaker 7: feel comfortable, which I don't blame them.
Speaker 6: You know, we used to have this saying or this
Speaker 6: big sign up in the locker room and said, durability
Speaker 6: is more important than ability. And you've played in sixty
Speaker 6: seven games, started every single game. Can you talk to
Speaker 6: us about the inner workings of how you keep yourself
Speaker 6: healthy throughout the course a week, what you do for
Speaker 6: your body to keep yourself maintained and on the field.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there's so much that goes into it.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 7: I think that's just part of growth as a football
Speaker 7: player from every level you keep going right. And for me,
Speaker 7: it was just like stretching, rehab, sports, massage, therapy, ice, bass,
Speaker 7: like just adding little things into my game. Having mentors
Speaker 7: and ogs in the locker room. They're telling, hey, look,
Speaker 7: come on, come on me, we're gonna do this schedule
Speaker 7: where you know, day after a game, you know you
Speaker 7: feel terrible, but come in here, get a lift, do
Speaker 7: a body flush, just something to keep the bones and
Speaker 7: body moving. So for me, I think that's a bit
Speaker 7: of it. For me, I always I want to put
Speaker 7: true and play almost no matter what. I don't know
Speaker 7: if it's an O line thing, but it's almost like
Speaker 7: a pride thing, like I want if I'm able to
Speaker 7: get off the couch, I want to go out there
Speaker 7: and play. So I think there's a little mental toughness aspect.
Speaker 7: And then I have great teammates around me talking about
Speaker 7: the interior offensive lineman as well, Guys like Joe Toney
Speaker 7: create Humphrey. You know they don't miss games either. So
Speaker 7: I don't ever want to be one of the guys
Speaker 7: that lets my teammates down when they need me. If
Speaker 7: I can go compete and get my best on the field,
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna not gonna hold out.
Speaker 2: On my guys.
Speaker 5: I have some buddies, and it's four other guys. We
Speaker 5: play in a Madden League. Every time Madden comes out
Speaker 5: for like four months. In the past two years, I've
Speaker 5: traded for you every season. I just want to tell
Speaker 5: you that I've traded for you, like you're so legit
Speaker 5: on that. Do you know how legit you are on Madden?
Speaker 5: Do you ever play with you, bro?
Speaker 2: I haven't played Madden in a while, but I love
Speaker 2: to hear that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, every year. I trade for you every year.
Speaker 5: It's funny to see your head in real life because
Speaker 5: your head's up there on my team all the time.
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
Speaker 6: So when you came into the league, who are some
Speaker 6: of those guys that took you under their wing and
Speaker 6: kind of showed you how to be a professional, how
Speaker 6: the league operated, and somebody who you probably still rely
Speaker 6: on today.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Man, when I walked to the Chiefs as a rookie, man,
Speaker 7: we were veteran heavy, especially in the offensive line room,
Speaker 7: and there's so many names, guys like Mike Rimmers, Larry Tardiff, Duverneur,
Speaker 7: Kyle Long.
Speaker 2: You know Kyle.
Speaker 7: I leaned on Kyle a lot during the season just
Speaker 7: to teach me different things. But then I also having,
Speaker 7: you know, in my opinion, Hall of Fay Future of
Speaker 7: Fame offensive guarden Joe Toney, a guy that I can
Speaker 7: bounce ideas off questions, a guy that I can watch
Speaker 7: and try to emulate my game a little bit off
Speaker 7: of him. So, you know, I had a great offensive
Speaker 7: line coach and Andy Hack assist officive line coach Cory Mattey,
Speaker 7: and obviously you know the headman himself, coach Ree who
Speaker 7: understands interworkings of offensive line play. So really fell into
Speaker 7: a great perfect situation. Talked about my center once again,
Speaker 7: Creed Humphrey I've known him since sophomore year of high school.
Speaker 7: So having that report in that relationship already, step into
Speaker 7: the game like it was easy because I have a
Speaker 7: guy nice to me that I know I can trust,
Speaker 7: you know, talking about a guy like Andrew Wiley, Lucas
Speaker 7: and Yang as well. So we had a really good,
Speaker 7: strong core offensive line room, and you know, the transition
Speaker 7: was very difficult. All days weren't good days. It didn't
Speaker 7: have great games all the time, but you know, you know,
Speaker 7: leaning and depending on those guys made it a lot easier.
Speaker 5: The first time I thought about this was a Lebron comparison,
Speaker 5: But Lebron being forty and all the seasons that he's
Speaker 5: played really isn't the whole picture because all the playoff
Speaker 5: games that he's played as well as the seasons, it's
Speaker 5: like multiple other seasons. Now when I look at a
Speaker 5: guy like you, all the playoff games that you're playing
Speaker 5: every single year that you've been in the league, right,
Speaker 5: because yeah, you've been what you've been in five years,
Speaker 5: four years at this point, four or five years, yeah,
Speaker 5: like my fifth year. Yeah, so that's that's a lot
Speaker 5: of you've basically played an extra season compared to players
Speaker 5: that haven't made the playoffs or haven't gone far in
Speaker 5: the playoffs, Like, your body's got to feel like it's
Speaker 5: two seasons deeper than that, right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's not sweet and winning super Bowls and stuff.
Speaker 7: It's awesome, but you know there's a lot of wear
Speaker 7: and tear in the body when you go that far.
Speaker 7: You know, I'm spoiled in a way. You know, God's
Speaker 7: blessed me once again, where it's like, I don't know
Speaker 7: anything less than an AFC Championship game in my entire career.
Speaker 7: But like you said, like it accumulates and adds on
Speaker 7: every season you start stacking those extra games. So I
Speaker 7: think that's why, like body and recovery became critical for
Speaker 7: me in terming, like I want longevity in my career,
Speaker 7: but I also want to be available. Availability is the
Speaker 7: best trade, right. So so from that, it's been really
Speaker 7: difficult just trying to stay on the field, but you
Speaker 7: just have to adapt your game and of all as
Speaker 7: time goes.
Speaker 6: So what type of motivation do you guys have going
Speaker 6: into this year Because obviously with the success that you've
Speaker 6: had earlier in your career with the two Super Bowls
Speaker 6: and you're coming off a season where you guys didn't
Speaker 6: get it done this year. What's your mentality going into
Speaker 6: this year with that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know, the mission remains the same
Speaker 2: every year. We have meetings and we talk about it,
Speaker 2: and you know, ultimately we're all there to win a
Speaker 2: Super Bowl.
Speaker 7: So obviously we came up short, and that's a feeling
Speaker 7: that we won't forget and it's a feeling that no
Speaker 7: one in that locker room like. But at the end
Speaker 7: of the day, we have to just focus on the
Speaker 7: current mission, which is how do we attack every day,
Speaker 7: day in and day out, just one step out of time,
Speaker 7: one rep at a time. So for me, I feel
Speaker 7: like I personally I can only speak on my own experience,
Speaker 7: but I never look too far ahead. I just look
Speaker 7: at my opponent each and every week and just go
Speaker 7: from there and just keep building Because if I can
Speaker 7: be the best version of myself for my team, then
Speaker 7: I know I'm doing my job, and I know all
Speaker 7: of my guys are doing that.
Speaker 2: We're gonna be just fine.
Speaker 3: Hey, so tell me about this camp. It's a second year,
Speaker 3: you're doing it right, let's.
Speaker 2: Our second year camp.
Speaker 7: Man, It's going to be in Jackson Tennessee, June twenty
Speaker 7: first second year running it, having a great turnout again,
Speaker 7: and just putting on something for the community of Jackson.
Speaker 7: You know, I owe so much to that place to
Speaker 7: help me become a man and the person who I
Speaker 7: am today. So I want to give back to the
Speaker 7: community anyway I can.
Speaker 5: And so the ages of the kids though, so it's
Speaker 5: anywhere from second grade to twelfth grade, is that right, Yes, sir, yep?
Speaker 3: And what do you teach them differently?
Speaker 5: I mean, if you are second grades to a whole
Speaker 5: different set of skills in eleventh grade, I'm assuming.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah, a little bit of trial and error
Speaker 2: from last year.
Speaker 7: Just understand the second graders and the little guys they
Speaker 7: want to just go out there and have fun, but
Speaker 7: just sort of get them a basic understanding of the
Speaker 7: fundamentals of football, what goes into it. But the main
Speaker 7: emphasis is making sure the little guys have fun out there.
Speaker 7: When we talk about the middle school in high school camp,
Speaker 7: just turn it up a little bit. Obviously, we're preparing
Speaker 7: them if they want to possibly have a future of
Speaker 7: the next level, or if they want to just some
Speaker 7: better themselves for the upcoming season. Just really pushing them,
Speaker 7: getting them ready and refining their skills become better athletes
Speaker 7: and better football players.
Speaker 5: The twenty twenty five Tree Smith Football Camp Saturday, June
Speaker 5: twenty first at the University School of Jackson and Jackson, Tennessee.
Speaker 5: And again, all the proceeds benefit the United Way of
Speaker 5: West Tennessee. And there's swag and food and expert coaching
Speaker 5: from Trey and other NFL players and surprises. So it
Speaker 5: really is a great deal, especially if you're anywhere near
Speaker 5: the area, Like, be sure to go check it out
Speaker 5: at least learn about it and then make your decision.
Speaker 5: My final question, though, can you give us a Patrick
Speaker 5: Mahomes in the huddle story.
Speaker 7: Probably to the Super Bowl closing out that game obviously
Speaker 7: a high pressure situation last year against the forty nine ers.
Speaker 7: You know, they got the ball, got possession, kick a
Speaker 7: field goal, they're up in overtime, and pretty much all
Speaker 7: eyes are on us at the end of the day.
Speaker 7: And I remember not necessarily being nervous because we're all
Speaker 7: ready for the moment. And I remember Pat just hops
Speaker 7: in the huddle was just like, hey, guys, let's get it,
Speaker 7: like you know what to do, Let's go do the
Speaker 7: same and just like the calmness that he had in
Speaker 7: his voice, the assurance, the confidence and swag based it
Speaker 7: was just like, hey, we know we got fifteen back there,
Speaker 7: we know we're about to go do and like I
Speaker 7: said earlier, everyone just do your damn job.
Speaker 2: Man, do your job one rep at a time will
Speaker 2: be just fine.
Speaker 7: In a way that we systematically march down that field
Speaker 7: play after play after play. You know, I think that's
Speaker 7: really one of his greatest drives he's had in his career. Man,
Speaker 7: when you look at the excellence and the greatness of
Speaker 7: Patrick Mahomes, I think that moment for me is one
Speaker 7: that's going to always stick out.
Speaker 6: How about any time where he got after you and
Speaker 6: you're like, oh man, that's not good.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, Pat does an awesome job where he
Speaker 7: doesn't really lay into us too much. I think that
Speaker 7: we all know the level of effort he's going to
Speaker 7: bring every single time we step on that field. For us,
Speaker 7: it's just like, man, we never want to see our
Speaker 7: quarterback one on the ground, but in a position where like,
Speaker 7: you know, he's pissed off, ass like you don't want
Speaker 7: to you don't want those problems, right, But I remember
Speaker 7: one game the Texans.
Speaker 2: It might have been my second year.
Speaker 7: We weren't really playing the greatest half early on into
Speaker 7: that game, and I remember just telling us to sort
Speaker 7: of pick it up, and you know the way we
Speaker 7: had to respond to that. You know, when fifteen your
Speaker 7: quarterback to phild General is asking for something, man, it's
Speaker 7: not a question. You get your dang job done, you
Speaker 7: know what I mean. So I remember that, and that's
Speaker 7: probably the only time I can remember him really getting
Speaker 7: fired up. But like I said, Pat's always pretty calm
Speaker 7: on the field. But once again, like efforts never gonna
Speaker 7: be questioned when he steps on the field. We know
Speaker 7: what he's bringing. We know he's gonna leave that huddle
Speaker 7: in that team.
Speaker 6: Trey. We appreciate you.
Speaker 3: Listen, my Madden team always paid you full Max Man.
Speaker 3: I paid you Max. So I hope in real life
Speaker 3: that's what you get because you deserve it.
Speaker 6: My friend.
Speaker 5: Hey, I appreciate the appreciate the time, and hope everybody
Speaker 5: checks out the second year of the Tree Smith camp
Speaker 5: for the kids again. Second all the way through twelfth grade. Trey,
Speaker 5: here's to a healthy season. Appreciate what you do for
Speaker 5: the community, and hopefully we'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 2: Thanks brother, Hope. I don't let you down on Madden too.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you never have, buddy, you never have see him man.
Speaker 2: See you, brother, Thank you. I got it.
Speaker 3: Let's continue our search for every team's goat.
Speaker 6: Oh gosh, I should have thought about this me too.
Speaker 6: I didn't know. Oh okay. We're now like filtering through going.
Speaker 3: Okay, the Browns and we've alphabet Brown be okay or Tim.
Speaker 6: Couch Nope, Jim Brown. No.
Speaker 5: You feel a little bad for some of the Browns quarterbacks.
Speaker 5: And you've probably seen the jersey of every Browns quarterback.
Speaker 5: All those quarterbacks don't suck. Those are people with unfortunate circumstances.
Speaker 5: They got drafted to an unfortunate place, which has been
Speaker 5: the whole that it's called the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a difficult situation. We we we've talked about
Speaker 6: it before on this podcast, you know, organizational fit, culture,
Speaker 6: everything else. And those guys all were drafted to that
Speaker 6: team at a really what top ten picks? Couch was
Speaker 6: number one overall overall, Yeah, number one overall. Brady Quinn
Speaker 6: was up there in the top ten. I mean you
Speaker 6: could go down the list and unfortunately you know, circumstances matter,
Speaker 6: and I feel bad for those guys because all of
Speaker 6: a sudden it starts going downhill and you're not having
Speaker 6: success as an organization and you get labeled as a
Speaker 6: bust or something. Now, Johnny Manziel was probably the only
Speaker 6: guy that I'd say, probably deservedly so after watching some
Speaker 6: of the comments he made and how he approached the game.
Speaker 3: But like Baker, was able to bounce back. I see,
Speaker 3: that's the thing about Baker.
Speaker 6: Baker went in there as a rookie, played really well
Speaker 6: and then took that team to the playoff, got a
Speaker 6: playoff win, and then was hurt and they traded for
Speaker 6: Deshaun Watson instead of paying him. But I thought Baker
Speaker 6: was one of those guys that was the first in
Speaker 6: a long period of time that was able to go
Speaker 6: on stabilize that position, give that organization hope.
Speaker 5: And I'm not comparing the two straight up, but Joe
Speaker 5: Burrow did a bit of the same thing with Cincinnati,
Speaker 5: who had a little more stability because they had they
Speaker 5: did have Carson Palmer, right, but it was few and
Speaker 5: far between. Because that's another program, or that's another organization
Speaker 5: that you really didn't feel the best about the overall
Speaker 5: health from the top down, right.
Speaker 6: And it starts with ownership a lot of time as well.
Speaker 6: Is I mean, are they dedicated and also how do
Speaker 6: they run their program and everything from facilities to food
Speaker 6: to everything that you take into consideration to make it
Speaker 6: holistically look the way it should look to be successful
Speaker 6: and show the players that you care in the organization itself.
Speaker 6: So it kind of has similar over overtones to that
Speaker 6: of Cleveland, but probably had a lot more in Ohio.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, definitely two super Bowls, right, Bloomer lost both
Speaker 5: Boomer lost.
Speaker 6: And then Joe Joe lost one to the Rams, right
Speaker 6: to the Rams.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, Joe who Aaron ACKed him on the last.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, oh that's right.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's right because he beat my homes.
Speaker 6: Yes, he's the guy to beat my home. Yeah.
Speaker 8: They came back and that one, that's right.
Speaker 5: That was no Castle comeback, though I've seen comebacks the
Speaker 5: Castle two fifty four touchdowns. Yeah, that's a comeback.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you like that? How do you like that?
Speaker 3: Cowboys?
Speaker 6: Cowboys? M oh man, that's a good that's a great one. Yeah,
Speaker 6: because we can kind of walk through who you could
Speaker 6: go generationally. Yeah, Stabach exactly.
Speaker 3: You could do Stabach or Emmitt.
Speaker 6: Smith, Trey Ackman three times so I mean Michael Irvin.
Speaker 5: I mean you could even do oh gosh, I mean,
Speaker 5: I mean you can even do an offensive lineman. Although
Speaker 5: it's tough to do an offensive lineman. You know, they've
Speaker 5: really like even.
Speaker 6: They've had Zack Martin. Was Zach Martin is all time? Yeah,
Speaker 6: first ballot Hall.
Speaker 3: Of Fame probably got to be INMSS Smith though, right,
Speaker 3: I mean he set the record.
Speaker 6: Yeah, for probably have to be in Emmitt Smith, Probably
Speaker 6: have to be in Smith, Broncos Moose, Janeovichek maybe yeah,
Speaker 6: Broncos Broncos John. This next one's even though, Terrell Davis.
Speaker 6: So you met at the Super Bowl gold jacket on
Speaker 6: his gold jacket. That gold jacket looks pimp. I mean,
Speaker 6: there is that that factor when you see a guy
Speaker 6: in a gold jacket, especially if you played the game
Speaker 6: and you're like, that's awesome. Yeah even if you did,
Speaker 6: You're like, yeah, even if you didn't.
Speaker 5: This one's easy, but there is a pretty close second.
Speaker 5: Lions oh fair Sinners.
Speaker 3: But I think at least he deserves to be mentioned.
Speaker 6: Is Megatron. That's a good, good point, he's not one.
Speaker 5: I'm not arguing that he is one, but I think
Speaker 5: for a lot of teams he would be their best player.
Speaker 6: Ever. Oh he was a freak of nature. Freak just
Speaker 6: absolute size, speed, everything that you could ever like draw
Speaker 6: up on a board of what you'd want. That was Megatron.
Speaker 6: Talk about the ultimate mismatch because I think he was
Speaker 6: probably twound fifteen pounds heavier than Randy Moss, but similar
Speaker 6: skill set. Just an absolute freak of nature. Right, taller
Speaker 6: too right, I think he might might have been. I mean,
Speaker 6: what was he six five six'? Nine they, said, no just, Kidding, oh,
Speaker 6: okay six nine.
Speaker 3: Seventy what Was megatron listed when he. RETIRED i would
Speaker 3: guess six'.
Speaker 6: Five, yep uh.
Speaker 8: Two thirty. Seven yep we'll.
Speaker 3: About take the, Victory.
Speaker 5: There, packers now if you, go old which we weren't
Speaker 5: alive for to See, bart star, we weren't so it's
Speaker 5: kind of hard for us to Yell bart star because
Speaker 5: we saw some black and. White clips yes, we did,
Speaker 5: we did but it's it's really between, Two People brett
Speaker 5: Farv And.
Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers And. Aaron Rodgers brett farv probably takes it
Speaker 6: because he has my. Childhood, HERO.
Speaker 5: Yeah I think i have To Go, aaron RODGERS but
Speaker 5: I Think aaron rodgers was the best quarterback of my.
Speaker 3: Formidable years he.
Speaker 6: REALLY was I mean i can sit there and honestly
Speaker 6: tell you from, skill, set yeah from also the mental
Speaker 6: side of, the game never, through interceptions could, take off, the,
Speaker 6: athleticism run do all, of it and then all the
Speaker 6: stuff that he would do at the line. Of scrimmage he.
Speaker 6: Was unbelievable but there was pure Joy Watching brett favre
Speaker 6: play the game.
Speaker 3: Because he played like we think we would have.
Speaker 6: Played right it was like a kid in the backyard
Speaker 6: and watching the enthusiasm, he had the celebrations and run
Speaker 6: AROUND with i will never forget In The super bowl
Speaker 6: when he's run around with his helmet off just like
Speaker 6: a little. ASS kid, i mean there's something to be
Speaker 6: said about. THAT that i think that that's what brought
Speaker 6: so many people to love, This Man brett favre when
Speaker 6: he played was because not only, his toughness but it
Speaker 6: was how he played. The Game With.
Speaker 5: Aaron rodgers he was never the single best at any
Speaker 5: of the, specific skills but he was always two. Or
Speaker 5: THREE if i were to, SPEAK more i, would Say
Speaker 5: pay manning probably was able, to, see think move with
Speaker 5: his mind a little Better Than aaron. RODGERS was I
Speaker 5: Think peyton manning was the most three, reel Quarterback But
Speaker 5: aaron rodgers probably two.
Speaker 6: OR three I believe peyton was probably one of the
Speaker 6: most demonstrative right and you could tell like.
Speaker 5: He was you just think because he was moving his
Speaker 5: hands a, lot more he. Was better he think he was,
Speaker 5: ACTUALLY well i do processing.
Speaker 6: IT faster i mean he did process at probably the
Speaker 6: highest level. We've SEEN but i also Played With tom
Speaker 6: Brady that i'd sit There and i'd be in awe
Speaker 6: about how he would be able to dissect a defense
Speaker 6: and understand what was going on based on a movement
Speaker 6: pattern of this guy's inside and the nickel blitz might,
Speaker 6: be coming check, a play get out, of it and
Speaker 6: get to what he wanted to. Get to And So
Speaker 6: aaron rodgers had those same type of. Skill sets and
Speaker 6: when you say he wasn't the, single Best and i'd
Speaker 6: say when he was in, his prime you never saw
Speaker 6: anybody throw the ball.
Speaker 5: Like, Him OKAY so i would say he didn't process
Speaker 5: as fast as Maybe a manning Or, or brady but
Speaker 5: he was always two. Or three he Wasn't A, mike
Speaker 5: vick he Wasn't A, lamar jackson but he absolutely. Could,
Speaker 5: run yes he didn't have the strongest Arm Of matthew
Speaker 5: stafford would have a, stronger arm but he was always
Speaker 5: two or three and having A freaking so my point
Speaker 5: is that every single thing he was in the, top
Speaker 5: THREE and i think that's why he's probably like the
Speaker 5: all around most talented quarterback of my. Formidable YEARS where
Speaker 5: i got to, watch television now there were Things where
Speaker 5: brady was so Good At but brady.
Speaker 6: Couldn't run but he didn't need. To run he didn't need.
Speaker 3: To, run YEAH so i Would.
Speaker 6: Go, rogers also the Thing about rogers was he played with,
Speaker 6: swack right he had that moxy, to him and all
Speaker 6: the great. Quarterbacks DO but, I mean rogers always seemed.
Speaker 6: On FACE and i also love the fact the guy never, Wore,
Speaker 6: rippads like NEVER wre i didn't, know, that YEAH and i.
Speaker 6: NEVER understood i was like he always would Just wear.
Speaker 3: It was common for every quarterback with ripets Or, MOST oh.
Speaker 6: I mean you would, think, SO yes, i mean just
Speaker 6: based on the fact that you're exposed all, the time
Speaker 6: and he just never wore, rip PADS and i, was
Speaker 6: like what A. Gangster, Texans texans now we can't.
Speaker 3: GO Oilers, JJ Watt, jj WATTS who? I.
Speaker 6: HAVE Yeah jj watt's probably.
Speaker 5: THAT guy i, Mean, there well it's a toddler of
Speaker 5: an organization still still.
Speaker 3: FOR sure i won't, say infant but we're toddler.
Speaker 6: Stages now but you're talking about the face of a
Speaker 6: franchise that's a recognizable figure that went out and dominated
Speaker 6: for year and a year out for a long period,
Speaker 6: of time perennial, pro bowler all the things that you look.
Speaker 6: For leader And also i'll tell you when he lined
Speaker 6: up on the opposite SIDE and i was on the
Speaker 6: Field and i'm looking, At him, i'm going, oh god
Speaker 6: see he'd block out the sun and. He was he's,
Speaker 6: also versatile like he'd play, defensive end he'd, move inside
Speaker 6: they'd move them. All around would you try to? Find
Speaker 6: him the hard part about them when we were Playing The,
Speaker 6: houston texas THEY Had, jj watt who was a force
Speaker 6: to be. Reckoned with They, had clowney they, had merciless
Speaker 6: they had dudes that could come off, the ball and
Speaker 6: they would always try to create single matchups because they'd
Speaker 6: go a five, down defense and so that gave them
Speaker 6: the ability TO move jj around and move. These guys
Speaker 6: so sometimes You see clowney standing over your CENTER with
Speaker 6: jj outside on your, defensive end and it was really
Speaker 6: hard to turn your protection to one and not be
Speaker 6: screwed with the. Other guy so you kind of had
Speaker 6: to play. It, Straight, colts well, That's Tough. Marvin hers
Speaker 6: it's definitely Gonna Be Peyton Manning Baby, Jaguars, jaguars hmmm.
Speaker 6: ANOTHER infant i can give you mine if. You're STRUGGLING
Speaker 6: use i think you Might.
Speaker 5: GO burnow i thought you Might, go brenow but you
Speaker 5: could Do, bursellly okay to go to the LINE then.
Speaker 6: I mean, usc product let's, be honest but he only
Speaker 6: played like seven or, eight years but he. WAS incredible
Speaker 6: i Would Go. Fred Taylor, Oh, reddy yeah that's he
Speaker 6: could be, that dude. FOR sure i could See that.
Speaker 5: Fred was NOW that I, accept Brunelle and i'm not
Speaker 5: saying that's who you're, married TO but I accept brunell
Speaker 5: because he did take a brand new organization To The.
Speaker 6: Super, bowl yeah like.
Speaker 5: He was stability to. A lefty i know he barely missed.
Speaker 5: My list your list was all. Over there my list
Speaker 5: got all over the PLACE because i.
Speaker 6: Started. Canting mess he was. LIKE seven i was, like, what,
Speaker 6: YEAH Yeah.
Speaker 8: Afc championship oh he didn't go to The.
Speaker 6: Super bowl who did you get? Beat, by.
Speaker 3: No they just came in at the.
Speaker 8: Same time did we have this talk?
Speaker 6: Last?
Speaker 3: Year, yeah yeah let me guess who they were?
Speaker 6: BEAT By cfc?
Speaker 8: They, there, well okay sorry with him twice.
Speaker 6: Never to The. SUPER bowl.
Speaker 5: I think he went to The. SUPER bowl i bet
Speaker 5: my reputation. On it you don't lose much if you lose. That,
Speaker 5: one nope they've never been The.
Speaker 6: Super. Bowl Okay blake portles went TO The afc. Championship,
Speaker 6: too yeah yeah he did. That one i'll want. SOME
Speaker 6: reputation i don't know how many get. It, Back crap
Speaker 6: i'm gonna work, on that. All right let's do. Two,
Speaker 6: more ah this. One's easy it's. Too Easy, The Chiefs,
Speaker 6: patrick mahomes, that guy he's.
Speaker 5: Pretty good let's do two, others, then okay give me,
Speaker 5: two Others, the Raiders The Raiders.
Speaker 6: Howe, long oh that's a.
Speaker 5: GOOD one i didn't Put how long on my, top
Speaker 5: three but unfairly Because he's stabler is, too old there's
Speaker 5: a Picture of stabler at. Thirty five have you guys seen?
Speaker 5: The Meme it's stabler like thirty three or thirty four,
Speaker 5: years old maybe, thirty five.
Speaker 3: And he looks like. He's seventy he looks like a
Speaker 3: seventy year. Old plumber he.
Speaker 5: Lived, Hard yes and Then there's brady at like, forty
Speaker 5: four and, it's Like here's stabler at thirty three Looking
Speaker 5: like grandpa.
Speaker 6: With. Modern, Medicine, brother, yes wow? What's up?
Speaker 8: That's, bad yeah the Look.
Speaker 6: The raiders i'm gonna Go With, Marcus, ALLEN okay i can.
Speaker 5: See that and mostly it's recency bias because we played
Speaker 5: in a celebrity golf tournament together about a three. WAYS
Speaker 5: ago i didn't spend enough time with him to. Know
Speaker 5: that but he was nice to me in like the
Speaker 5: three seconds we, said hello like he.
Speaker 6: Was.
Speaker 3: Smiley yeah that counts, for, Something, Right.
Speaker 6: Yeah well HE'S a usc product.
Speaker 3: Number, one yeah we got to stop at ALL The, USC.
Speaker 6: Well, i mean you're just naming all, the GREATS and
Speaker 6: i mean we have a lot a lot of great
Speaker 6: players that have come OUT. Of USC but i remember
Speaker 6: being AT a i think It. Was marcus we were
Speaker 6: At The. Tahoe TOURNAMENT did i tell you? This story
Speaker 6: AND his i believe it was his girlfriend was on
Speaker 6: the side and hit, the ball hit her on the
Speaker 6: top of, the dome split her. Head over you? Hit,
Speaker 6: Her no marcus hid he hit his? Own, girlfriend. Yeah
Speaker 6: accidentally she was following the group and like split her.
Speaker 6: Dome open had to go get Like full staples wearing
Speaker 6: a white outfit to and not felt.
Speaker 5: So bad what are the odds you hit, your girl
Speaker 5: even if she's? Following, you like what are the odds you?
Speaker 5: Hit anybody because there's a lot. Of, green yes what
Speaker 5: are the odd you hit your?
Speaker 6: OWN girl i. Don't know that's. Pretty slim last Ones
Speaker 6: The Chargers, Ooh Fouts, Danny, Fouts, winslow, No okay junior
Speaker 6: sayl oh.
Speaker 3: Great one NOT who i gave, it TO but i would.
Speaker 6: Accept it I'd say JUNIOR sal i Would Say La.
Speaker 6: DANIAN tomlinson i like both, of Them but I'm. Going.
Speaker 6: JUNIOR yeah, i mean if you think about the position,
Speaker 6: of linebacker did you.
Speaker 3: Play with him at All At?
Speaker 6: New? England yes. Incredible human what was?
Speaker 5: HE like i was gonna say it was like as,
Speaker 5: a dude BECAUSE what i remember of him as, being
Speaker 5: relentless NonStop With. The chargers and then OBVIOUSLY his ct
Speaker 5: set in and his life ended. Very tragically so those
Speaker 5: are like the two THINGS that i remember.
Speaker 6: From him, really sad, YOU know, i mean it was
Speaker 6: HE was i think thirty nine forty when he came To,
Speaker 6: the patriots and this guy loved. Ball man and when
Speaker 6: you got to the stadium in, the morning it would,
Speaker 6: be say we got there at, six, fifteen right he
Speaker 6: was had been there since four thirty in, the morning already,
Speaker 6: worked out was in the room watching. Film practice you'd
Speaker 6: never know that he. Was forty he was out there
Speaker 6: like he was trying to make the team, every day,
Speaker 6: making calls coming through and. Run fits never took a.
Speaker 6: Period off and then. The game he was the guy
Speaker 6: that would speak to the, team beforehand and it was
Speaker 6: this it was like a religious moment when you get
Speaker 6: To Hear Junior saya howe address the team because he
Speaker 6: was had such a great command and presence and just
Speaker 6: would fire you up and you'd be ready to run
Speaker 6: through a wall for. This guy and then you get
Speaker 6: off the field and he's the most humble individual you'll.
Speaker 6: Ever meet never met somebody that seemed like, a stranger
Speaker 6: nice as. Can be when we'd, Go out he's always
Speaker 6: picking up the tab doing those kind. Of things incredible
Speaker 6: teammate and just a fun guy to.
Speaker 5: Play with as we go into, THE season i made
Speaker 5: a list of PLAYERS that i had to look up
Speaker 5: where they're playing this year because a lot.
Speaker 3: Of, turnover, yes like, For Example. Joey bosa.
Speaker 6: Bill's, NICE yeah i already, heard though huh he's. Already hurt,
Speaker 6: no way he's had an injury right, and yep he's
Speaker 6: had an. Injury history but do.
Speaker 5: You want to see how many you can name the?
Speaker 5: New team i'm a gonna put you under the. Spot
Speaker 5: there but if You, know BOSA well, I knew I.
Speaker 5: Knew BOSA one i did not KNOW.
Speaker 6: And i had to think About Was, Naji Harris. Nase
Speaker 6: harris didn't he go To?
Speaker 5: The chargers, oh yeah, You're ready, You're ready. HE'S ready
Speaker 5: i wasn't going to. Put that you'll spotlight, on him
Speaker 5: but let's.
Speaker 6: Go baby was Then the chargers draft the running back
Speaker 6: in the. First? Round two who Is That north?
Speaker 8: Carolina?
Speaker 6: KID yeah i like him omyor O'mari And hampton hampton
Speaker 6: he's a stud.
Speaker 3: All right at let's let's, Do It.
Speaker 6: Mac Jones mac jones is with the forty. Nine, ers
Speaker 6: yeah how? About?
Speaker 5: That bro, all right We, Got ken We Got ken
Speaker 5: jennings over here acting like This.
Speaker 6: IS jeopardy I Mean mac jones talk about a crazy
Speaker 6: career up to. This point it comes in as, a
Speaker 6: rookie starts For, the patriots takes him to. The playoffs
Speaker 6: now they got boat raced By the bills in, the
Speaker 6: playoffs but incredible, rookie year and he was the next.
Speaker 5: Great one he was the next great one because he
Speaker 5: performed so well early, On right.
Speaker 6: AND unfortunately i feel bad for him, Because situationally josh
Speaker 6: McDaniels leaves and then new coordinator, Next Year. Matt PATRICIA
Speaker 6: and I Love, matt patricia but he always was on
Speaker 6: the defense side of, the Ball And bill belichick put
Speaker 6: him in. That position but at the same time kind
Speaker 6: of got derailed and got. An injury and then the
Speaker 6: next thing, you know he's he's out the door and
Speaker 6: he's with some of the. Last year, next thing, You
Speaker 6: Know western Kentucky's Own. Bailey, Zappy Yeah. Bailly zappy that's
Speaker 6: ONE person i. DON'T know i don't know where he.
Speaker 2: Is either.
Speaker 5: Nobody, DOES yeah i don't know even the league that
Speaker 5: he wasn't part of MY leg.
Speaker 6: I thought he was, really saying we're going.
Speaker 3: The list it's gonna be a.
Speaker 6: Mac jones and is that Like? The chiefs He's, the
Speaker 6: chief the great fit?
Speaker 3: All Right Gardner Minshew.
Speaker 6: Gardner, minshew oh so he was With the colts. Last
Speaker 6: year we, know, that right it's What, The Raiders. Cults
Speaker 6: raiders he had a great year with the Made The,
Speaker 6: pro bowl then went To. THE raiders i have no
Speaker 6: idea where. He went he just.
Speaker 5: Got suckered he's. The chief bailey's appy is probably a. Third,
Speaker 5: string seriously was going to back you guys. Screwed me
Speaker 5: we didn't screw you. On purpose stayed within the. Division
Speaker 5: though it's Not like KEVIN.
Speaker 6: And i worked.
Speaker 3: This out, we're, Like hey i'm really going to.
Speaker 6: Bring this this wasn't even this wasn't even in the
Speaker 6: plot for the first three and, you're, Like Hey, cooper
Speaker 6: rush oh he Went to HOLD and i. Know this
Speaker 6: you didn't Go.
Speaker 5: To denver it feels weird that he's not going to
Speaker 5: be a cowboy and he's not going to come in
Speaker 5: and play four games and win three of them because
Speaker 5: That's Basically cooper rush every year With.
Speaker 6: The cowboys.
Speaker 5: It's weird he's going to be in Weird colors Jacksonville.
Speaker 5: The ravens, oh, wow wow what an.
Speaker 6: INTERESTING fit i know as a coordinator Going, please god
Speaker 6: Don't Let lamar jackson get hurt because we're gonna have
Speaker 6: to change the. Entire.
Speaker 5: OFFENSE yeah I Think cooper rush moves a little better
Speaker 5: than we give him.
Speaker 3: Credit for don't let his skin color make you.
Speaker 6: Feel nothing to do with that making. Him play he's
Speaker 6: not gonna be running the zone read and power at the.
Speaker 5: Quarterback position there's also not a slower Name Than cooper Rush.
Speaker 3: Because rush but that rushing is like down.
Speaker 6: The middle.
Speaker 8: You know some call him the Modern Day.
Speaker 6: MATT castle i, Think no i'm, just.
Speaker 8: Saying, you know he doesn't look, the part, But Like
Speaker 8: cooper rush moves.
Speaker 3: Pretty good.
Speaker 6: Have you?
Speaker 5: Been, SERIOUS yeah i turn on, the. TAPE bro i
Speaker 5: watched your tape that you Load on instagame.
Speaker 3: Is awesome by, The WAY like i.
Speaker 6: Watched that somebody sent me THAT and i, was, like
Speaker 6: kids come, watch this watch. Us now it.
Speaker 3: Was awesome i'll tell my, WIFE said i worked. With,
Speaker 3: HIM look i. Know him that that.
Speaker 6: Was awesome that. WAS awesome i don't know who put,
Speaker 6: it TOGETHER but i, was, LIKE man i appreciate you.
Speaker 3: Look Good Uh, DeAndre hopkins D.
Speaker 6: Hop man he's signed. With Somebody so chiefs last year
Speaker 6: obviously went in after. That trade what the? What conference?
Speaker 6: Give me? Give me he's in THE, F c he's
Speaker 6: in the A, f c. Same Division, uh no because
Speaker 6: he's not In. The west.
Speaker 5: No Idea the, Ravens, again wow really good, For him Hunter,
Speaker 5: Renfro back. No idea there's a version of him on
Speaker 5: this team. As well and BY version i mean white
Speaker 5: possession receiver still? No idea consistent?
Speaker 6: Is crap white possession? Receiver consistent? His crap do you
Speaker 6: Know how i'm.
Speaker 5: Talking ABOUT when i say white, possession receiver, very consistent.
Speaker 3: The receiver i'm referring To Is. Adam deeling oh so
Speaker 3: he's gonna be.
Speaker 6: A panther carolina was going, to say, RIGHT theling.
Speaker 4: I Thought Of braxon, barios maybe but then you, said
Speaker 4: consistently like, he's more.
Speaker 6: By, the way not on.
Speaker 3: The List But braxton barrios Is. A TEXAN now i
Speaker 3: believe Is?
Speaker 6: HE okay i believe you may in fact check me.
Speaker 5: On THAT but i believe he has gone From the
Speaker 5: dolphins At, the texans which is kind.
Speaker 6: Of weird that's kind of. COOL though, i mean Your
Speaker 6: boy parker McCollum would be fired up. About that, you
Speaker 6: know he's got the full off season breakdown. For sure
Speaker 6: he was on it by. The way, oh yeah when
Speaker 6: he was on. The, truck yeah he's A. Massive, texans
Speaker 6: wow like, granular right like really in. The weeds so
Speaker 6: he Is a texan? Right, YEP Okay, AJ Dillon j dylon.
Speaker 3: He'll be he'll be, a backup maybe the best running
Speaker 3: back in, the league top three.
Speaker 6: AT least i really LIKE A. J dillon he's. A,
Speaker 6: stud yeah no. Idea, Though, yeah eagles he went To. The,
Speaker 6: Eagles wow SAQUON And, Aj dillon this one you'll know. FOR.
Speaker 6: Sure U, Joe Toney. Joe. June, Chicago yeah chicago did
Speaker 6: a great job with like revamping that offensive line in. Free.
Speaker 6: Agency Unbelievable. Zach Wilson, Zach, wilson oh wasn't He with denver?
Speaker 6: Last year, We're not. We're, Not yeah i'm. Just checking
Speaker 6: i'm just fact. Checking, myself, Philibustering philibustering, No idea.
Speaker 3: Dolphins really so he'll probably get.
Speaker 5: Some play he'll probably play Much Like dak remember that backup,
Speaker 5: is yeah you better get you better, get ready usually gets.
Speaker 3: Some run i'll give you. To More rahem mostert No.
Speaker 6: Idea raiders oh. Nice pickup Darius slay oh previously With,
Speaker 6: the Eagles also previo, his teammate. Great guy i'm still
Speaker 6: Yeah at detroit the guy was a stud h No Idea.
Speaker 6: Steeler steeler great pickup By.
Speaker 5: The steelers speaking Of, The Steelers aaron, rodgers thoughts how?
Speaker 6: ABOUT that I mean i kind, of anticipate like every
Speaker 6: single human just waiting for him to actually check. Into
Speaker 6: camp so, to me it wasn't a big surprise or
Speaker 6: just the. Ah moment at the, Same time i'm Sure
Speaker 6: the steelers are fired up, Because look aaron's, got something something,
Speaker 6: to prove just because he wouldn't be still. Be playing
Speaker 6: he has nothing, to prove but he wouldn't still be
Speaker 6: playing unless he. Wanted TO and i believe that he
Speaker 6: will immediately Upgrade the steelers Because Since, Ben roethlisberger i'd
Speaker 6: say he's the highest profile quarterback that has walked in.
Speaker 6: That building and in addition, TO that i still think he.
Speaker 5: CAN play i just wonder What the steelers' motivations are.
Speaker 5: In general is it just keeping your head? Above water because,
Speaker 5: IF so i. Get it, if, Not, Like Okay mason
Speaker 5: rudolph not, the GUY but i don't think you want
Speaker 5: the guy if you're not going to keep your head,
Speaker 5: above water, like eventually why not try to get a top?
Speaker 6: Draft PICK because i believe as a, coaching staff as,
Speaker 6: an organization, front office everybody, like that there are no.
Speaker 5: Throwaway seasons i'm not saying there's, a throwaway but don't
Speaker 5: you think if there's stability and a coaching staff and,
Speaker 5: an organization you also understand the need for. FRANCHISE players
Speaker 5: i could understand if you're a coordinator and a coach
Speaker 5: who's had a, couple backs Like the giants. For, example
Speaker 5: right let's say that situation. Is happening They Got jackson
Speaker 5: dart in. The draft but let's say that situation is
Speaker 5: happening where they're worried about. THEIR jobs i would definitely
Speaker 5: want the best. Season possible but If you're tomlin and
Speaker 5: you know you're not, going anywhere and they understand why
Speaker 5: you're not throwing, it away because there are no throwaways IN,
Speaker 5: the nfl especially.
Speaker 3: That possibly you're going to only remain one game over two.
Speaker 5: Games over they don't obviously don't lose because That's what,
Speaker 5: tomlin does stays around five hundred. Or better butventually you
Speaker 5: need a top pick to make that to make that
Speaker 5: team have a.
Speaker 6: BETTER team. I know i know that's the mindset of
Speaker 6: every fan and every person that's sitting there and looking
Speaker 6: at the longevity, and saying when are we going to
Speaker 6: be able to lose to so we can move up
Speaker 6: and maybe get another franchise quarterback and catch lightning in.
Speaker 6: A bottle but like, you said and like, we know
Speaker 6: there's no guarantees even if you're a top ten pick
Speaker 6: in the draft as. A quarterback and to be fair
Speaker 6: to everybody in that on that team and, that organization that,
Speaker 6: coaching staff to say there's somebody out there that gives
Speaker 6: us the best opportunity to win, right NOW then i
Speaker 6: think they have to go. Do that and it's for
Speaker 6: every guy in that, locker room for every, offensive lineman,
Speaker 6: defensive lineman anybody else. THAT'S involved i would say that
Speaker 6: it would be unfair to everybody in that organization, to,
Speaker 6: say hey we have the option to go out and
Speaker 6: get a better player, right now but we're not going
Speaker 6: to do it because we're hopeful that next year we'll
Speaker 6: get a better.
Speaker 5: Draft pick but if you're ceiling as ten wins, but
Speaker 5: ceiling if you're ceiling as ten Wins and rogers isn't
Speaker 5: going to be there more than a, Year.
Speaker 6: Two max.
Speaker 5: Don't you think you owe it to, the fans to
Speaker 5: the organization to give it a run to GET a
Speaker 5: i won't say generational because that word's thrown around, too
Speaker 5: much but the next two quarterback classes seem to be, Really,
Speaker 5: good like don't you think that eventually you got to make?
Speaker 6: That, call no not as not from a. PLAYER'S perspective,
Speaker 6: i mean the other part about this is you can
Speaker 6: always go into a draft and trade away not only
Speaker 6: your first round pick if you want to, trade up
Speaker 6: but trade away your next. Year's draft if you have
Speaker 6: that player, in mind you're gonna have to make heavy
Speaker 6: moves and have to make. Heavy sacrifices, but again for
Speaker 6: the here and, the NOW there's i can't tell you
Speaker 6: with a. Straight face as, A player i'm sitting, there
Speaker 6: going let's go suck.
Speaker 3: This year as, A player.
Speaker 5: I agree i agree as, a player iry's more owner,
Speaker 5: mentality though You know i'm.
Speaker 6: Up here, oh yeah and the, owner, like hey the,
Speaker 6: long term. We're good we're good in the. Long term,
Speaker 6: let's crash crash. And burn this is prideful, organization, now.
Speaker 3: Yeah but you can crash and burn, with dignity Like Starting.
Speaker 6: Mason rudin that wouldn't be dignified if you went out
Speaker 6: there and got your head. Beat in what are you?
Speaker 6: Talking about?
Speaker 5: Fair enough before, We, go kevin did you ever get
Speaker 5: A d m from the person in the comments They
Speaker 5: Said matt castle was?
Speaker 3: THEIR daddy i, sure did, okay boom so just from.
Speaker 6: HIS wife i thought it was a woman who.
Speaker 4: Said, it no NOT what i, Thought TOO but i
Speaker 4: guess there was. A guy but he doesn't have, social
Speaker 4: media so he had to use His wife's instagram to
Speaker 4: reach out. To me and we talked back and forth a.
Speaker 8: Little bit send me. His address we're good.
Speaker 5: To, go okay so We'll get castle to sign. The,
Speaker 5: jersey sweet we'll get it out next week and then
Speaker 5: we have one other one.
Speaker 6: To do many know what'd you say? Last week but
Speaker 6: you were going to say Something DIFFERENT.
Speaker 5: Now i went with what. You Said matt castle. Is
Speaker 5: Gorgeous matt castle is a. Gorgeous, man YEAH so i
Speaker 5: do have a lot OF and i gotta say people.
Speaker 5: Came through there were a lot. Of, them uh picking
Speaker 5: number one. Through, thirteen.
Speaker 6: Uh let's go with lucky, number seven, all, right, one, two, three,
Speaker 6: four five.
Speaker 5: Six Seven matt castle is a gorgeous human who is
Speaker 5: to go to Podcasts with Bobby's. Phenomenal empire, We know
Speaker 5: I'll Take zach love we, SEE you i. See you
Speaker 5: if You, message kevin we will also get You A matt.
Speaker 5: CASTLE signed i don't even know what team is. GONNA
Speaker 5: be i got like a couple of at the house
Speaker 5: that are like the yeah yeah from so we'll get
Speaker 5: him to. Sign them we'll ship them.
Speaker 8: Both, out okay do we know what we're Given the
Speaker 8: his Name is lucas by, the Way. In germany the.
Speaker 6: First guy we know what we're.
Speaker 3: Giving, him yeah as Far as, jersey, WAS yeah i
Speaker 3: GOT to i Got two.
Speaker 6: Castle ones but we don't know.
Speaker 8: WHICH team i, was, saying, no, No no we're gonna
Speaker 8: have to find.
Speaker 6: That out they're oping.
Speaker 5: A closet i would have to bed, every Night so
Speaker 5: i'll just take one of those that wear The.
Speaker 8: Got bobby sweat, and, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah so Bobby's. Per yes thank you guys.
Speaker 5: For being a part of the.
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Speaker 6: More jerseys.
Speaker 3: Who knows thank you.
Speaker 5: Very Much He's, matt castle Kick off, Kevin Producing brandon
Speaker 5: ray doing all. The Video I'm, Bobby bones who've had lots.
Speaker 3: To say thank you guys for you.
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