WEBVTT - Tiffany's Big Announcement! 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.160 Hey, Hey, ba fam, I have been waiting to tell you, guys. 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:06.960 I have been sitting on this news forever. But for 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:11.400 the first time in Brand Ambition history, we are going live, y'all. 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:14.480 We are going to be live from Newark, New Jersey. 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:18.360 It is all happening October tenth at six pm. If 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:21.239 you want to get tickets now, tickets are limited. We 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:24.440 picked the best venue. It's a historic black owned bookstore 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:27.840 in Newark, but seating is limited. This is going to 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:31.720 be an intimate evening with me and Tiffany live in person. 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:34.640 It may be the only chance y'all get I'm not 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:38.720 gonna lie to see us together live in twenty twenty four, 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:40.919 so please come get your tickets. We want to make 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:45.320 sure that the crowd is packed with true be a family. Okay, 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:48.720 So if you want to get tickets, run, don't walk. 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:52.320 Run to Brown Ambition podcast dot com to get the 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:55.160 link right there and let us know that you're coming. 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:58.480 Tag us, send us your receipts, send us your order. 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:01.400 Maybe we'll send you some BA wag. We'll have some 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:04.240 BA swag at the event. Even we are going to 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:08.839 be celebrating nine years of the show, y'all. Nine years. 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:12.200 We're like geriatric podcasters in the very best way. But 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:14.840 we cannot wait to see y'all in Newark. So go 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:17.880 ahead Brown Ambition Podcast dot Com to get your tickets 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:21.399 to see me and Tiffany live for Brown Ambition Live 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:23.959 in Newark, New Jersey. It's all going down. Like I 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:27.479 said October tenth, get your tickets again at Brown Ambition 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:34.960 Podcast dot Com. 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:49.680 Hey hey, hey, we're back. We're black, We're bread. Take 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:57.320 us there, take us Ambition Ambition, Ambition, Ambition Ambition, Hey, 0:01:57.400 --> 0:01:58.640 Mandra how you doing. 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:03.240 Hey right now? Every day is a little different. Every 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:05.960 day is a little different day. It's a Satin day. 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:09.520 I feel like I'm like the last This is our 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:11.600 the last school district in America. To go back to 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:15.240 school in New York. It's very like, it's very quintessential, 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:18.080 like what you see and how Mark movies. I feel like, yeah, 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:21.680 we Labor Day, Yeah, same Mummer's over. 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:24.720 The after Labor Day. Yep, very quintessential. I didn't know 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:26.880 that other people didn't get seasons. When I was a kid, 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:29.680 I was great, you're gonna put on your fag jacket 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:30.400 for back to school? 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:34.200 Yeah. I was in Cali for like a week visiting 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:36.959 some friends in Silicon Valley just because that's where they live. 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.960 I'm not recommending it as a tourist destination. It's not 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:43.800 exactly the most exciting, but we did get to like 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:46.760 go to see Uosmite and stuff. But anyway, the kids, yeah, 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:49.880 the schools there, it is kind of weird. I'm just like, oh, 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:53.119 so it's just hot and sunny like every day. It's 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:56.839 just the way y'all live. But it was exciting here 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:00.480 because well, I'm kind of a masochist, we know, so 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:05.280 I sometimes make self sabotaging decisions. But I don't think this, 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:07.520 but sometimes I'm like, it could be a self sabotage 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:10.320 or it could be brilliant. So we got back from 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:14.240 California the night before school started. Before I went on 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:16.160 the trip, I'd like put everything that I was going 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:18.200 to need for his backpack in a pile and like 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:19.560 in a bag, and I was like, this will be 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.880 where I'll find it. And it turned out fine. He 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:26.120 was always going to be freaking out a little bit, yeah, 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:29.760 and he did, like we kind of almost we tried 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:31.760 to drag him to the bus stop, but he was 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:35.960 not ready. So just picture me and my husband like, 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.200 I've got my little back to school sign that I've 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:40.960 been using every year for him and his backpack, and 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:45.000 like Enrique's you know, like half carrying him, half dragging him, 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:47.520 and I've got the sign in his backpack. And we're like, 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:49.720 come on, we're gonna go to the bus, and he's like, no, 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:52.520 I don't want to go. And then the school bus 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:57.839 just comes zoom and pie. Yeah, And I was like, well, 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:00.320 look there's our you know, our neighbor's kid is over there, like, oh, 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:02.360 look at so and so and I look at them. 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:04.240 I look at the window, and so and so is 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:05.600 looking like he's being sent to a piece. 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:06.280 But you can't. 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:11.280 He's not doing me anyway. So he's just like save yourself. 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:16.680 But yeah, he's he's in. He's my big kindergartener. Now 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:21.719 it's been an emotional Yeah, it's been an emotional like week. 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.680 But at least forget at least we're doing it now. 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:27.240 We're not like you know what I mean, like where 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:32.160 you're dreading the new changes and stuff, but I am, uh, 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:35.599 I'm trying to delay the inevitable, I guess. But I 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:38.719 got a phone call you guys that I didn't. 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:42.960 Expect to get from tivity. So we have some I 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:44.760 don't want to say call it big news. 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:46.440 But what do you mean You're not gonna call it 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:47.120 big news? 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:49.040 It is, But I feel like big news sometimes sounds 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:50.800 like good news. I don't know if there's bad news anyway. 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:53.080 I know they're like, yes, it's news. 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:53.440 Yes. 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:59.360 I've decided that this is my last year doing Brown Ambition, 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:02.159 So and mission continues because it is more than just 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:07.120 us individually. It's this beautiful collective that Mandy and I created. 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:10.320 But I I mean, I'll still be here, hopefully I'll 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:13.000 be honest a guest, you know, but as far as 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:17.200 a regular co host, I'm not going to be that anymore. 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:21.840 And while I was away, I'm you know, Mandy and 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:23.160 I were, like, I said, we're friends of real life. 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:26.680 So we talked on the phone and I guess I 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:28.440 was in Martha's venue at that time. Remember I had 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:30.240 to go to that event thing and you know, and 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:33.520 i'm it's going for a walk and Mandy and I 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:39.520 talked and I kind of knew then because we had 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:44.400 a guest on our show or guests, and they kind of, well, 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:48.000 I kind of they shared what it looked like when 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:51.560 their podcast went to the next level. And if I'm 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:54.480 being candid, it's like the hard work that Mandy does 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:59.520 and I thought, I don't have the capacity to commit 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:02.919 in that way. And honestly it's been like that for 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:06.120 a while. And it's not fair, you know, it's not 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:10.680 And you know, Mandy has been like such a soldier, 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:13.560 but I'm like she shouldn't have to be, you know, 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:19.799 like this podcast could really explode if the full capacity 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:22.599 was given to it. And I feel like they're you know, 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:25.120 in the beginning, you know who don't know what podcasts were, 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:27.840 not me, you know, me and man, it were just 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:31.279 like this thing sounds fine, okay, And that's the energy 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:33.240 I've been able to maintain a keep. But quite honestly, 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:35.880 this podcast has become a business, you know, not in 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:39.200 a bad way, in a great way, but it requires 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:45.400 a level of commitment that I just can't make. And 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:47.840 now it's gone from like, oh, this is a fun 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:51.039 project that we're doing to like, now I'm actually holding 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:53.920 us back, you know, like Mandy won't say that, I'll 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:54.719 say it for her. 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:56.520 I am, I'll say it in different ways. 0:06:57.360 --> 0:07:00.359 I'm holding us back, you know, not intentionally, not you know, 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:06.680 not just because you know, like, as as the budget 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:10.360 needs to twist and turns and grows, it is taking 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:14.440 more and more of like like, there are some opportunities 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:17.600 that require more of me that I want to explore, 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:20.400 and that means I haven't even less available, and that's 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:26.840 even less fair. So it hasn't been easy and making 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:29.800 this choice because I really enjoy Brown Ambition, you know, 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:31.840 like I'm not I told y'all before. I mean, I 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:33.720 love y'all, but really it's because I get to talk 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:35.680 to my friend. We get to hang out every week, 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.640 and we get to do something pretty amazing, you know 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:40.520 that no one else has done, Like nobody in this 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:43.720 space is doing what we're doing, but more and more, 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.440 like I said, I just feel like Tiffany, you know, 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:50.080 like you, we've reached this pivotal point where like you 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:54.440 are holding Brown and Bission back from growing and and 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:58.880 it's not there. And so yeah, so I told Mandy, 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:03.320 and it felt so terrible because I text you, like, no, 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:04.560 I think you, I don't know if you text me 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:07.720 or I text you. And I said, oh, let's talk 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:11.200 about Brown and Bisson tomorrow because tomorrow was a Saturday. 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:14.160 So Mandy was like, which was the worst. 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:17.640 Well, you know, I've been planning our wedding, how it 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:22.280 felt like it was a jilted bride. Oh but no, No, 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:25.040 there's the timing, y'all. If you haven't realized, it is 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:28.360 September now, and every September it's our anniversary because we 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:31.720 launched the show around this time nine years ago now, 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:36.800 which is a long time as a podcaster. It's sort 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:39.040 of like saying, you started your blog in two thousand 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:43.280 and six, two thousand and five. So anyway, twenty fifteen 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.320 we launched, and it's been nine years, so I was 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:48.720 very excited. I had lots of I have lots of 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:51.720 big ideas that are different now, but they're still there. 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:55.640 For brand Ambition in twenty twenty five, and I wanted 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:59.160 to do our first live event, and we still are 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:02.520 doing it, unless Tiffany, no, I'm still doing it. 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:05.199 I don't do that, Okay, don't do that. 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:10.840 But yeah, as I was planning this live show and 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:14.640 getting sponsors and stuff, and you know, wanting to like 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:17.320 do a proper Brown Ambition tour and all of that. 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:22.000 You know, I'm trying not to sound like a don't 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:23.839 feel bad for me. I'm trying not to sound like 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:27.679 a jilted lover, like a jilted groom or bride. I 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:29.840 don't know who I am in this situation. Some days 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:32.120 I do feel like brown ambition bride, but mostly like 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:34.920 but yeah, bride and groom and wedding planner and all that. 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:40.520 But you know, you can always tell when, at least 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:43.960 if you have a very strong, insecure attachment style like 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:46.800 I do, you can tell when someone's about to. 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:48.679 No. 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:52.040 It was so I felt so terrible because we were texting 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:54.160 and it was late, so it was like maybe like 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:56.880 eleven or something, and I said, I forget you were 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:59.280 texting something about something and then I don't even if 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:01.280 it was brown and bish lated just chit chat texting. 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:02.800 And then I was like, oh, I was trying to 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:05.160 keep it light, like let's talk about Brida mission tomorrow, 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:06.400 and You're like sure. 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:07.920 And then you were like well, because it was in 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:10.960 a text which reads like can we chat, which is 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.559 exactly what you say before you dump somebody or before 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:16.439 you quit your job, you know, like I've been around 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:17.839 the blog long, oh, like. 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:21.120 And then Mandy was like huh and then she text 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:22.600 me back like maybe like ten minutes later. It was 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:24.760 like you're not you're not dubbing me. I you wait, wait, 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:25.760 And she went through a. 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:29.440 Whole internal dialogue yes to the house. 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:36.520 And I said and then I didn't text back because like, 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:40.400 I what she was saying, because normally I'd be like, man, manny, now, girl, 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:42.080 I just want to talk to you about whatever. 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:44.559 You couldn't reassure me because you're not a liar, yes. 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:46.880 And I was like, I didn't want to be like, oh, everything, 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.000 So I just was like, well, it's late, maybe she'll 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:52.559 think I fell asleep. That's exactly I was in the 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:55.520 bed looking at the ceiling like I don't because I'm like, 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:57.600 I don't want to have this conversation now it's so 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:01.000 late and I can't text it. That's crazy. I actually 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:02.240 really wanted to see you in person, but you were 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:04.120 doing some traveling and I just was like, I don't 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:06.880 want it to I knew I wanted to do yeah, yeah, 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:08.240 I wanted to stay to the end of the year. 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:10.320 So I didn't want to keep pushing it, pushing it. 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:13.760 I wanted to have plenty of time to talk with you, 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:16.440 to talk through it with our with our listeners. And 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:17.960 so I was like, if I wait till I see 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:19.880 Mandy in person, it might be another month and that's 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:24.320 not fair. So I just said, if you know exactly, 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:25.760 that's what I was thinking. I was like, I can't 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:27.280 do that. I'm gonna do the live event, but I 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:30.440 can't do it at the live event. So the next 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:32.280 day I was such a chicken because I did not 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:33.240 call Mandy right away. 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:34.520 I still had to call you. 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:37.200 I know you did, because I was like, out. 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:39.360 Of my misser rate. Now it's me. Now I know 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:40.160 you've seen it. 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:41.400 And I know you know. 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:42.680 I was scared. 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:45.560 Not scared that Mandy was gonna I was scared because 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:48.600 I just I didn't want to disappoint my friend. Honestly, 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:52.120 that's what I was thinking. I was like, because one, Mandy, 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:53.800 you were always kind, so I knew you weren't going 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:56.480 to be like, ah, I hate you. I was more 0:11:56.640 --> 0:12:01.840 so afraid of just disappoint and hurting you. That's what 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:04.040 I just kept thinking. I was like, oh, man, I 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:06.480 don't want to hurt Mandy. And I mean, like I said, 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:09.040 you've heard me say this over and over. Not to 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:11.720 draw passed away. I didn't have any desire to do anything, 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:14.559 but I came back to Brown ambition because Mandy was here. 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:18.160 That was it. And you know, you said something to 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:20.400 me that like broke my heart a little bit, like 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:22.480 have you hated it all this time? I'm like, no, 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:25.880 not at all, Like I've not hated honestly, I've loved 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:28.240 Brown Ambition, you know. And then you were like, are 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:30.280 you leaving because of me? I'm like, honestly, Mandy, I 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:35.320 stayed because of you. Like if if if there was 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:37.679 no Mandy in Brown Abison, Drew would passed away and 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:39.280 I'd be like, girl, bye, I would there would be 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:40.880 no Brown Ambition. I don't even know if I would 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:43.640 have told you. I think I just would have been like, anyway, bye. 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:45.800 You know that last episode that you heard, that's it. 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:50.400 Like literally I stayed because of you, and now I 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:55.400 am leaving for me, you know, And quite honestly, I 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:58.320 know that what Brown Ambition requires, I'm not able to 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:01.440 give it, and it would be unfair to, like, you know, 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:04.000 be this like dead weight that you're dragging along, you know, 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:10.000 because Mandy has so many amazing, amazing ideas about like 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:12.520 what can make the podcast better, like how we can 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:15.079 serve y'all better, like and they're amazing. I thought to myself. 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:18.240 This is all Mandy. You know, she doesn't need me. 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:21.040 You know, she's going to be capable of doing these 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:24.080 things on her own. And so you know, y'all prove 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:27.480 that when I was away after my husband passed away, 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:29.800 that you're here for Mandy just as much me because 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:32.480 you were here and listen, if anything, we got an uptick, 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:36.400 you know. So that was one. But then also too, 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:39.320 like I said, my friend deserves to have the podcast 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.600 that she wants to because Mandy won't say it, but 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:44.480 she bends to make sure it's convenient for me. And 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.040 that's not fair, you know, like everything is like, okay, 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:49.200 let's do it because this is more convenient for Tiffany. 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:50.800 And this is more convenient for Tiffany. I mean, this 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:52.760 woman was gonna come all the way to Nowork to 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:57.760 tape live every week. That's crazy. I was like, no, enough, 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:01.880 all right, crazy it is. I was like, no, you 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:05.320 deserve to have ease and for it to be to 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:08.480 evolve around you. You deserve to have this business revolve 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:12.120 around what's best for you, the vision that you see 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:15.080 and that's it. And so I'm excited for that part 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:18.320 for you. And we're sharing this because it's I'm here 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:21.000 all year, and obviously i'll be back, you know, I'll 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:23.080 back to be a guest or whatever, and I'm here 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:26.880 all year. But I wanted that I wanted to talk 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:30.640 through with you, so we wanted to do this. Because 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:31.479 I thought. 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:32.680 She wanted to do it. I did not. 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:35.360 Well, here's why, because I think one that. 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:37.800 Would think I'm ready to be this vulnerable yet, but 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:41.120 here it's happening. Like I do feel very self conscious 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:43.520 of how like I mean, Tiffany, like we taught the 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:45.440 day that you told me, I remember, I was like, 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:48.640 I gotta go, and I came back because it was just, 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:51.080 you know, too much to process. I was literally blowing up. 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.120 First of all, I heard real saying are you okay, Mommy, 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.320 and my heart broke. I was like, oh my. 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:56.240 God, the baby. 0:14:56.760 --> 0:15:00.720 Second, Mommy is trying not to cry as I was 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:04.040 blowing up. Balloon's no. But it's it's just like it's 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:08.120 such a monumental shift, and there's so much like I 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:09.600 think the last time you and I talked a day 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:11.920 or two ago, I was on this like I was 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:15.200 very optimistic. I still am. That part is still there. 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:18.880 But today's one of those days where I'm just like not, 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.800 I'm sad and that's okay. 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:24.120 But can I just tell y'all, like what Mandy texts me, 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:27.640 this is the mark of what a good friend like Mandy, 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:32.960 you texted me something that just after I called you 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:37.080 and you were like, we could talk later, you said, 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:42.760 because I knew that it was a lot obviously, you 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.600 said something that just said, this is why you know, 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:50.000 like this is why you're my friend. You wrote me 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:52.960 right away back and you said, I'm okay, I want 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:56.200 to talk more, but of course I love you and 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.600 I want you to be happy. I'm just so sad 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:02.160 it's okay, and I don't know there could have been 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:08.080 a more perfect response, because it was like you gave 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:11.200 me the permission to just like show up. This was 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.160 you created a safe space that I could tell you 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:16.080 honestly how I was feeling, but then also too that 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:18.400 you can honestly tell me how you're feeling, like this 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:20.880 is sad, you know, but not make me feel bad 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:24.640 about like you were weaponizing your sadness, you know, you 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:27.120 were just like just letting you know that, like you know, 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:29.680 but I love you and I'm happy for you, And 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:31.240 I thought, I don't know that there could be a 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:35.560 more perfect text, and you know you are just like, 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:37.440 you know, it's so crazy, but you have been like 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:41.160 this constant in my life for the last you know, 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:46.440 basically ten years, you know, and our relationship and friendship 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:51.200 has just grown too, you know, more deeply into one 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:55.320 of the safest spaces I have, you know, and I 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:58.640 just thank you for that that, like you know so much, 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:00.800 we have lived through so much. I started this podcast. 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:03.680 We were literally both of us single. I think we're dating. 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:05.119 I don't know if I was Angel, I don't even 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:08.879 remember if I was Adanerelle, but both single. There was 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:12.960 no kids, no loss, no just two single girls who 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:14.719 were like, let's do this thing called a podcast that 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:17.640 wasn't even a thing yet. And we've lived so much 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:21.840 life in the last nine years, nine plus years, and 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:28.160 I just yes, I think the next nine I'm just 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.240 just really grateful to have a friend like Mandy, because 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:32.040 not a lot of people would have responded like that, 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:35.080 but I knew that this was a safe space to 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:37.320 come to you and just be like here's where I am. 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:39.919 Nothing happened, like honestly, I'm sharing this, and I know 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:42.440 Mada didn't want as much but I wanted you guys 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:46.159 to hear that it is possible to be in partnership 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:50.720 with someone and partnership to for lack of a better word, 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:53.440 breakup and it not be because she lied, I lied, 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:56.919 you cheated, whatever it's like. Sometimes it's just that you 0:17:56.960 --> 0:18:00.320 know that one I recognize that I'm holding Brada as 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:02.720 an entity back, but also too, I recognize that I'm 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:04.680 holding myself back. There's some things I want to do 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:08.119 that I need to create space for myself. So nothing 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:11.719 has happened, you know, like something has happened, but nothing 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:16.679 negative has happened, you know, And so I wanted I 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:18.919 wanted you as the audience to hear and see like 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:24.040 what like healthy communication looks like in business partnership, business 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:27.920 partnership that has a friend component. It's not perfect. We're 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:30.440 both sat This is an end of an error. Although 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:33.439 Brown and Bishon continues this this era of Tiffany and Mandy, 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:35.520 that error is, you know. 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:38.840 As brand Ambish co yes, because one of the things 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:40.679 you said was when we talked to you were like, 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:43.560 you know, part of your decision was you know, you're 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:45.960 doing the show for me and for our friendship, and 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:49.040 then you realize you actually don't need, which is true, 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:53.000 you didn't need the podcast, yeah, to be friends with you? Yes, 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:55.040 And I actually think that we'll probably see more of 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:59.560 each other now that like physically, yes, we're recording everywhere. Yes, 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:02.600 what is nice to just hang yeah, which we don't 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:04.800 because if we're going to hang, like Phil got to 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:09.520 get the show. Yeah, So, which I think is true. 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:12.080 And our friendship is it goes way beyond. It goes 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:15.840 way beyond the podcast. And I think that, you know, 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:18.320 it wasn't an accident. I think there was a point 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:23.399 in our business relationship and our friendship when we decided, like, 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:27.280 let's make this deeper than just business, like because I 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:29.960 think we were maybe like seventy thirty business to friends. 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:32.000 Yeah. Yeah, if I would say that. 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:35.280 You know, and I think I don't know. We there's 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:38.479 so many examples of like partnerships where you start as 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:40.600 friends and it's like one hundred percent friends and then 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:43.480 try to shift it ninety ten friends to business, and 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:46.560 I think that that is a lot more challenging at 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:50.200 the beginning. I can't say that this was part of 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:52.320 a master plan. It's just the way that it worked out. 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:55.640 We just started out more as partners, and now we're 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:58.399 like more sisters. And I think that that is making 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:03.000 it makes it it harder in some ways, yet easier 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:06.679 in others, Like easier to accept because I have to 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:10.000 accept it because it is your happiness, like and that's 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:13.920 all I want, you know, But then harder because it's 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:16.919 like I think my initial thought was, well, what like, 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:19.720 what is Brown Ambition without me and Tiffany. I've never 0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:23.000 fantasized about Tiffany not coming back. I've never thought about it. 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:25.040 I've never been like, wow, I really would love it 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:29.359 to be the Mandy Show. Never. I love our Yin 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:31.560 and Yang. I think that we have such great chemistry. 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:34.160 I can't capture that with anybody else. I don't want 0:20:34.160 --> 0:20:36.040 to try. I'm not going to turn into Kelly Rippa 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:36.840