1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast Sierra Siarra Tomato Tomato. Welcome 2 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: to another edition to Be Around the NFL Podcast. My 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: name is Dan Handis. I'm joined in a room filled 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: with heroes, Mark Sessler, Lindsey Rhodes, and Gregg Roseal What 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: is up? Boys and girls? Should I point out that 6 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: Greg's really dressed up today? Well, part of it is 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: it's freezing in this studio and this is the only 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: way that's going to keep my frail small body. That's 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: one way to put it. Another way it is when 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: we do our live hits on Network, Greg likes to 11 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: put on the jacket and then not used. People on 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: the third floor be like, oh this guy he's got 13 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: he's got live potential, Like who's the human pulled out 14 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: of the West Anderson films on the left. Don't dress 15 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: for the job, you have dress for the job. Many 16 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: hits where you're you're much better dressed than I am 17 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: and mixes up Well find me one. Yeah. I don't 18 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: know if I put Dan in that category. Good nice stresser, 19 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 1: but I don't know how many times you wouldn't say 20 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: are you wearing the same shirt as Craig is? Color blind? 21 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: Sweet Marks first common to me was we're wearing the 22 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: same shirt. Another reason put on the coach that made 23 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: sense with the coat for that reason. So for the 24 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: minute and a half that we run on, I mean 25 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: we yeah, we got our We got both of our 26 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: shirts from the Generic Man of two thousand nineteen checkered collection, 27 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: Like who doesn't have Generic whites magazine had a really 28 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: nice good publiction clothing line. Uh, Lindsay, I was going 29 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: through some of the history of Lindsay on the Around 30 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 1: the NFL podcast, which is just comb through the archives. 31 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: Is very rich here, Yes, that's color also rich history 32 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: of Kelleen. But um, a couple of episodes back. This 33 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: is probably your fifth or six, maybe seventh time on 34 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: the show. Remember there was the Lindsay Rhodes maternity leave extravaganza. 35 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: That was one of the all time favorite Lindsay appearances. 36 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: That's with your second child, right, Okay, don't remember deep 37 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 1: into probably we were waiting for a brief amount of time. Yeah, 38 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: I think that was like my last day before I 39 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: did go, And it's just an indicator that was memorable. Dude. 40 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: Do you remember it now? Yes, exactly. We we all 41 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: have a you know, combined not with each other. But 42 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: we have eight children, and uh how many since we 43 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: started working together? You started an NFL win two eight? Wow, 44 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: all these children have showed up since we all got 45 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: to know each other. How we've been able to work 46 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: together for so long. I mean you and I also 47 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: weren't married when you started here, so you did things 48 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 1: in that correct order. Dude, did it the right way? Yeah, 49 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: did the right way. Technically. I brought a baby with 50 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: me to ship. Yeah, but we had just men, just 51 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: met the baby, just bet Dan and the baby. She was, 52 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: you know, just the baby. But um, so, yes, the 53 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: history is rich, Lindsay, and we're happy to have you back. 54 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm happy to be here. You're sitting in 55 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: the West chair because Chris Westling is on his honeymoon. 56 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: Uh down in Mexico. I believe, yes, Puerto Biorta is 57 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: that in Mexico. I believe that's where Yes, I believe 58 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: that's where it is. You know that's where it is. Well, 59 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: we also we when he comes back, he has a 60 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: lot to talk about because we group purchased him west 61 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: a big, nice massage, so we'll have to see how 62 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: that went for him. I saw about that on Instagram. Yeah, 63 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: which there was a text chain going back and forth, 64 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: and the idea is this something because you never know 65 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: with West what he likes and what he'll be like, Hey, 66 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm open for anything, or what he'll be like. I'd 67 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: never do that. I'm a man. So it was kind 68 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: of a coin flip. But I think he I was 69 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: kind of at a pocket this weekend, but he enjoyed it. 70 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: What was his response? I missed everything on that. Gisa 71 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: said that he was on Instagram. I believe he was 72 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: considering now getting monthly massages. That seems there you go, 73 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: he nailed it. Uh so um, happy honeymoon to the 74 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: lovely Westling couple. Uh. Coming up on today's show with 75 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: the Great Lindsay Rhodes of NFL Network. And if you 76 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: don't know, Lindsay, first of all, you're a monster. How 77 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: are you not watching our program? Responsible to not know 78 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: is we're talking about the face of NFL Network. That's uh, well, 79 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: you know eyes and Okay, Eisen maybe is like, you know, 80 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: the guy he was the first person to say words 81 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: on this platform. Yes, he is the face, but I'm 82 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: talking about the more day to day NFL network. What's 83 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: going on, Lindsay is always there because she is the 84 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: host of NFL Total Access. She's the sucker who will 85 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: show up every single flagship, the flagship program of NFL Network, 86 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: which she co hosts with UH, Scott Hanson and you guys, 87 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: UM do great work. So you check that out. And 88 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: in honor of that, UM, on today's show, we'll do 89 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: another tradition with Lindsay, which is some t A topicals 90 00:04:55,160 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: we have UH with Lenz also coming up on today's show. 91 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: Under the Radar NFL and m VP candidates. So everybody 92 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: knows that the names that always get bandied about is UH, 93 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: this guy's the m v P, usually a quarterback. UM. 94 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 1: But we're gonna throw out some names and it's not 95 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: gonna be anything preposterous. It's gonna be people that UM, 96 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: it should make sense as soon as that person says it. 97 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: When we go around the horn. Oh yeah, I can 98 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: see that it's a possibility, so not so far under 99 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: the sitar that you know we would be. He's three 100 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: main plausible like Matt Paradise. You know, he's not going 101 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: to be the m v P. I know he might 102 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: anchor the offensive line UH this year, but he's not 103 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: going to be somebody that you're gonna throw out there 104 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: no offensive linement is everyone the Associated press most like that. 105 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: You're following that up like that was hold on in 106 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: case any of you actually are still on the train 107 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: for Matt to win. This a word, but before we 108 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: do that, let's do some news. Everyone's gonna say something, 109 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: you know when right now, oh, you're awful pig, But 110 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: when he went to Super Bowls, everyone's gonna, oh he 111 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: was a great That's just how life works, well, said 112 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: say Kwon Barkley, who was commenting on his new teammate, 113 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: a rookie passer Daniel Jones. That included, like my least 114 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: one of my least favorite things in sports media, which 115 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: is the over eager, too loud, too soon laughter. That 116 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: would never they would never be laughing that much in 117 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 1: real life off of that con But it was like, 118 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: that's just how life works. I know. I will say 119 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: that you're right. Sometimes journals when athlete actually kinda is 120 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: light and jovial, maybe you get over eager. But then 121 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: you gotta remember these journals also deal with people like 122 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: Tack McKinley in Atlanta. I don't know if you saw 123 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: his recent post press conference where he gave um eighth 124 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: straight I'm good, that's good, it's good answers, and then 125 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: walked off. So when somebody is actually giving you a 126 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: fun line, I could see they get a little over eager. 127 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: All right, I have a line. I've been, I've been, 128 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: I've done that before. I've you know, given pete athletes 129 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: way too much credit for being funny when you know 130 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: it's fine. One guy that gets too much credit for 131 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: being funny, Rob Gronkowski, the former Patriots tight end. Little 132 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: zinger at you there, but no, he's fine, felt like 133 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: an unnecessary singer, an accurate that needed anyway. Ten weeks ago, 134 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: Gronk called it a career. He stepped away, said I'm 135 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: done playing after a legendary run with the Patriots that 136 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: ended with another Super Bowl title. Remember his agent at 137 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: the time, we were actually in Arizona, Drew Rosenhouse, was 138 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: making himself very public in the lobby throughout the weekend, 139 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: talking loudly on the cell phone, enjoying himself, and he 140 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: told the media he didn't believe it. His own client. 141 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: He said, no, he you know, don't be surprised if 142 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: Gronk plays again. Well, Grock was speaking, uh two reporters 143 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: at a children's event at Gilette Stadium and was asked 144 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: about any you know, rumors that he wants to come 145 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: back or will come back. Whatever I say, it doesn't matter. 146 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: It will always be crazy out there. You can put 147 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: him to rest. I'm feeling good in a good place. 148 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: Thirty years old. You know, a beat up thirty years regular, 149 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln here, we're out of old. Um No, but 150 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: he uh end quote, thank you, Lizzie. A real journal 151 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: is in the room. But he is, uh, you know, 152 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: showed he had something left in the tank in the playoffs, 153 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: but also it was a tough last season. Is he 154 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: coming back? I still think he's gonna be on the 155 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: Patriots in November. I I do believe that. I don't 156 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: but I don't put much stock into what he's saying 157 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: at like a June charity event he's forced to speak. 158 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: Of course, he's thinking that now when it gets to 159 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: September October, like, could his mind change? Maybe he doesn't 160 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: have to do training camp and mandatory minicamp in June 161 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: and all that. I feel like it'd be more like 162 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: something where he just comes in for like the stretch run. 163 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: Belichick always says, you know, season starts at Thanksgiving or whatever, 164 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: that's when we start. That might fit me in there. 165 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: It's the one case where it's the Patriots have been 166 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: too successful because what is the motivation. It's not the 167 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: athlete trying to get come back to get that Antonio 168 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: Gates that one Super Bowl run. Well, you've been there 169 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: like fourteen times, your dominant What is why? What is 170 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: more appealing than you know, watching football from a distance 171 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: to no longer be giant people? I get it. I 172 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: tend to think that that that he probably won't come back. 173 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: I think he definitely believes he won't right now. Um, 174 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: but primarily because I think the Patriots are going to 175 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: change their whole offense. They haven't. It's not like they 176 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: brought in another tight end to take his place, So 177 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: I feel like I I feel like they're just going 178 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: to do it completely differently this year, and that it 179 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: would be weird to call him up in November like 180 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: you would normally do that. If the guy that they 181 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: brought in to take his place got hurt and then 182 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you're looking for a tight end, 183 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: would that be a reason why to rule it out 184 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: from an organization standpoint. I feel like if you have 185 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: a chance to get a recharged and into it, Grounk 186 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: and you're often especially like we're speculating now, a lot 187 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: of the football agneth centi is speculating that the Patriots 188 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: could struggle on offense. There's just not a lot of 189 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: really though, Like we haven't heard that narrative the off season. 190 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: It's always they're always expected to struggle because they lost 191 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: Phil in the blank like, and they always find ways struggle. 192 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: I have no expectation for them to struggle this year 193 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: because Gronk left. They've been fine without Grounk, like, they 194 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: find ways. I think he's an extremely special tight end. 195 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: But I think that Bill Belichick will just find a 196 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: different way to attack things offensively, and I think that 197 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: they're going to be fine. I agree with you for 198 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: the record, I don't want to agree with you, but 199 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: I think the Patriots will have a top ten offense 200 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: again this year. It would be a bizarre reality if 201 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: they don't, because they always do. It's just completely different 202 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 1: time to live in. Uh. Tom Brady, he is the 203 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 1: quarterback of the Patriots. He's entering his age forty two season. Well, 204 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: what about playing even later, Russell Wilson did a had 205 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: a nice conversation with our own Mike Silver, in which 206 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: he explained, you know, he's thirty years old, he just 207 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: signed a big contract with Seattle's entering his ninth season, 208 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 1: but he wants to play a lot more football. In fact, 209 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: he wants to play until he's forty five years old. 210 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: I feel like begin quote, I feel like I'm just 211 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: getting started. That's the scary part. That's the most exciting part. 212 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: That's really really where I believe that I am right now. 213 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: I'm just getting started, and I believe this team is 214 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: just getting started. So I think that we can do 215 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: anything that we set our minds to do. Close quote. 216 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: So where where was I'm looking for in the company standby? Alright? 217 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: So it's there. It is in the story, which it's 218 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: a beef piece by Mike. I absolutely I would think 219 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: would be earlier in the copy. But well, it's a 220 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: good invite for the listener to go anybody itselves at 221 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: any point, saying that he wants to play until he's 222 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: forty five feels a little bit like, don't put that 223 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: out there, like when people even in any way, and 224 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen did this last week in a way that 225 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: was very benign and whatever, but he used he compared 226 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: himself to Tom Brady in a way that was very 227 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: not like I'm comparing myself to Tom Brady. But he 228 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: said something like if I could be even you know, 229 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: close to what he is in this way and this 230 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: way and this way, then that's what I want to be. 231 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: And it was a compliment, and it was like, here's 232 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: the bar, and I just him striving to be that. 233 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: But the way that the quote was parsed and then 234 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: put out on Twitter, it becomes this like, oh, he's 235 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: comparing himself to Tom Brady and he's not even close 236 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: to tom Brady. And I just feel like people should 237 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: sort of learn that lesson and maybe just don't even 238 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: going close to that. Tom Brady has been saying forty 239 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: five now for a while, and tom Brady is still 240 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 1: three seasons away from it, you know, forty five. I'll 241 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: believe that when I see it, like he's turning forty two. 242 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: He's clearly the greatest aging quarterback of all time in 243 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: terms of his ages, you know, thirty nine to forty 244 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: one seasons, and even he I would be surprised if 245 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: he's around in a couple of years. It's a strange thing. 246 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: I know that three years you'd be surprised. Yeah, well wait, 247 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: this is going to be forty two right season. Yeah, 248 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: i'd be surprised if you're starting in his age forty 249 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: five season still in the NFL. Yes. To me, from 250 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: a fan angle, it's uh. And I was saying this downstairs, 251 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: these guys that I like star athletes in my life 252 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: for a nice long amount of time, but I don't need. 253 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: For instance, if you're Kyler Murray or Sam Donald, if 254 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: you wanted to play until you're forty five, your career 255 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: wraps in that. And Dan. I like Sam Donald, but 256 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: that's too much of him in my life for the 257 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: next twenty something years. It's like, give me, I want 258 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: Brady to be a little bit more of an outlier 259 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: than every quarterback is playing for the next two plus decades. 260 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: It really does have changed the how the NFL looks 261 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: because right now, Aaron Rodgers, you know, his turning thirty five, sick, 262 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 1: You would have think he'd be on the back, not 263 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: you know, he'd be kind of wrapping up his career, 264 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: and you don't even think about that with him. They 265 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: just gave Ben Roethlisberger a new contract. He's getting up there. 266 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:13,599 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers like Drew Brees. I think Breeze, Rivers and 267 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 1: Brady and Eli are all free agents next offseason. So 268 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: it's like, what kind of contracts do you give those 269 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: guys at that age. It's it's the last one, not 270 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: a contract. Eli doesn't get a right, that's fair. Yeah, 271 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: the Giants truly double down on their and Nolde Marcus 272 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: Mariota's new backup in Jacksonville. But that's an interesting question 273 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: for the rest of them. Update. I have a more 274 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: pertinent quote the topic by so fast. You think about 275 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: just turning thirty years and what I have for the 276 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: rest of my career for the next ten to fifteen years. 277 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: I'm just so fired up about it. You think about 278 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: some of the best quarterbacks of all time, guys like Drew, 279 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: guys like Tom. I really look up to those guys. 280 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: There's so much more to do. And then Mike uh 281 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: says five, and then Russell replies, yeah, yeah, that's the goal. 282 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm just fired up for it. End quote. Go Hawks, 283 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: moving on, it's a good goal. Yeah. Mark talked about 284 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: on Network. Mark said, up to the minute with Andrews 285 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: Siciliana today that he will be podcasting till he's eighty 286 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: nine or ninety. God willing mark this production questionable. But 287 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: you know, somewhere, maybe in my house, we're doing this 288 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: podcast in forty five years. Oh my gosh, I just 289 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: don't know what to say. I don't even know. I 290 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: don't know if that would be a grand achievement or 291 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: it feels some type of pet because we are We 292 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: just discussed we have a flock of children that we 293 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: could actually hand the show off too, and they'd be 294 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: handed the show off. They'd be deep into their four 295 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: giving them a career at that point. So I mean, yeah, 296 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: I think if you're still there, it will be an 297 00:15:55,280 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: indictment of the NFL's you know, retirement and healthcare plan. Well, 298 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: we're still needing this show up. It's like, all right, 299 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: we're doing three shows this week. Round up. Yeah. Absolutely. Well. 300 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: One of Russell Wilson's thing is he eats no dairy, 301 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: no mold, no yeast, no gluten, and that's he's going 302 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: to be healthy longer. You're gonna have to change your time. 303 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: No mold, that just means what like no cheese, old mushrooms, 304 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: lots of certain sauces. Soy sauce can be have mold 305 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: to it. How does that end up on your dietary list? Like? 306 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: No mold? Well it's it's yes, it's hard to get 307 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: like an orange with a sheen of green on it 308 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: that you take eat like a hand fruit. No, like, 309 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: it's more like like cheese as a mold. Calvin john 310 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: Let's move. Calvin Johnson is retired wide receiver, a great, 311 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: a future Hall of Famer. Um played his entire career 312 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: with the Lions. But there has been no Calvin Johnson 313 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: halftime celebration. There's been no Calvin Johnson Lions anything. And 314 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: it all goes back to, well, what a lot of 315 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: things go back to money. Money, Uh, Calvin Johnson told 316 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: Dave Burkett in the Detroit Free Press, Um, what the 317 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: Lines need to do to get this relationship back on track? 318 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: They already open quote, They already know what they got 319 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: to do. The only way they're gonna get me back 320 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: is they put that money back in my pocket. Close quote. 321 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: And if you remember, the Lions required Megatron to reimburse 322 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: the team for a portion of his signing bonus um 323 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: that he hadn't earned before retiring three years ago. So 324 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: it's I think it's around a million dollars um that 325 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: you know the money if he gets that, that's the 326 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: price tag to get Calvin Johnson back and ford Field 327 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: would you pay for that for what? I have a 328 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: problem with the fact that there's an expectation that that 329 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: he should get that money back in the first place. 330 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: Like I get that, there's also an argument that like 331 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: a million dollars seems like pennies if you're the Lions 332 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: and you get one of the faces of your franchise 333 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: to come back to the table. But at the same time, 334 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm I'm lost on why there's an expectation on his 335 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: part two have earned that money, Like why you wouldn't 336 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: have to pay that back if they pay you if 337 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: you sign a three year deal and then you retire 338 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: after yer and then the signing bonus is essentially just 339 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: a way to give you more money around the salary cap. 340 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: So it's a pro rated situation. It's not really like 341 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: thank you so much, because you're an organization of failure 342 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: and he is a player of total excellence and your 343 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: nicol and Diman someone who brought a higher level of 344 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: performance to your organization than your ownership ever has, or 345 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: your coach or pretty much any other player, and you're saying, hey, 346 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,239 Speaker 1: we're gonna just take that little bit out of your 347 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: pocket because we can. They did the same thing with 348 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: Barry Sanders. It's the type of thing, dumb organization, dude. 349 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: They made Barry Sanders repay his signing bonus to them, 350 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: and he always, you know, felt bad about It's it's 351 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: you know, instead of like saying oh, thank you and 352 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: sending cool Instagram messages, just like let him keep his 353 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: money and don't be Nickel and Diamond. It's a bad 354 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: book in respect. I think it speaks to a team 355 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: that post Megatron has almost no other players they could 356 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: even put out there at half time to celebrate. There's 357 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: a very unrich history. He's still playing though, I mean 358 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: talking about past guys a job at best. Let's bring 359 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: him back and throw a bunch of flags up in 360 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: the air. But if you're not doing the work, then 361 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: so if you agreed on and maybe I'm just diving 362 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: into the semantics of this, okay, then every coach should 363 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: have to pay back every every you know year that 364 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: they were unpaid and didn't do the job. You know 365 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: what I mean. It's just you're you're making a decision 366 00:19:55,440 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: ultimately because they're only they're only getting the they only 367 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: keep that money because the team fired them. He walked away. 368 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: It was his decision. So if you're signing a three 369 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: year deal and I don't remember the terms or whatever, 370 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: but like, just if you sign a three year deal 371 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: and you walk away after one year, then you shouldn't 372 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: be paid for the two years that you agreed to 373 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: be paid for, Like that was what you both sides 374 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: decided was your value at the time. I could totally 375 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: don't agree with your point, Like I think that's from 376 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: like a honor the job you did kind of standpoint. Yes, 377 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: the problem a little bit is I think the Lions 378 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: just look petty and all this look at it more 379 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: like the NFL owners having incredible and teams in general 380 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: having incredibly one sided and dominant relationship over player contracts anyways, 381 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: So it's like why why why go out? Why go 382 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: after it? It's like picking on them picking Let's take 383 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: a break in the news now to throw it to 384 00:20:54,680 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: Lindsay Rhodes again of total access every part of your 385 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: your everyday duties, right, Lindsay's It's not like you just 386 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: walk out on the set at seven pm Easter for 387 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: PM Pacific and just talk about football for forty two minutes. No, 388 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot of prep. That's what Hanson does. But 389 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: Lindsay preps. She gets it in a survivalist sort of way. 390 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: So we'll get to that in a second as well. Surviving. 391 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 1: Uh So, in the spirit of that, what Lindsay does 392 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: leading up to um every show, part of it is recording, 393 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: like pre taped. Topical promo is that they show in 394 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: other shows that it's like a little fifteen second commercial 395 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: that really teases you, gets you fired up. Geo oh Man, 396 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: can't wait to watch that show. Ongoing tradition, we give 397 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: Lindsay some copy to reach is not seen this beforehand. 398 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna ask Erica to play the music and Lindsay 399 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 1: take it away tonight on NFL Total Accents, How far 400 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: is too Far? Daniel Jones rams up efforts to replace 401 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: Eli Manning on the field and at home. We have 402 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: Omaruise in Green Bay to find out if Aaron Rodgers 403 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: still respects Matt LeFleur after his hoops injury. Plus Matt 404 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: Patricia's awful chilly recipe Tonight's sevent eastern where my music go? 405 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: What happened to the music? That was the length of 406 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: you know when I read it it was that long, 407 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: but then a professional broadcaster reads it, so you did 408 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: not read that that fast. Now right now here, you're 409 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: ready go total access? How far is too far? Daniel 410 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: Jones rams up everts to replace Eli Manning on the 411 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: field hand. At home we have Omaruise and green Bay 412 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: to find out if Aaron Rodgers still respects matt Lefloora 413 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: after his hoops injury. That's a disaster, Dan, I feel 414 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: like that was shorter. It's getting shorter. How long was? 415 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: I feel a lot better because this was a point 416 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: of contention about my copy and I were how long 417 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: was what you just played? Seconds that I sent earlier 418 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: to It's the same thing she did. Erica didn't as asked. 419 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: That was like a low key like I did, exast 420 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: team that was going to do Thanks for writing second 421 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: copy for my fifteen portrail per her email paper trail M. Well, 422 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: what can you do anyway? That's the first one. Well done, everybody, 423 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: that's great. That was great and at home unnecessary. Don't 424 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: fling those Dan just flung the piece. No, because at 425 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: one point one is going to come and sever my 426 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: eyeball because it's gonna be wayward. Throw. That's about when 427 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: you throw the thinking about some other human will have 428 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: to ultimately pick up Dan's refuse. Well, there's that secondary issue. Yes, 429 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: grow up here, we got moving on in the news. 430 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 1: Moe Wilkerson. You remember big Mohammed Wilkerson, Uh, former Jets 431 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: pro bowler, got a big contract, didn't play well, didn't 432 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 1: work hard, got cut, signed with the Packers, got hurt, 433 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: and he has not been able to get a job 434 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: and it's not gonna get easier. He got a d 435 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: U I in New York City. The twenty nine year 436 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: old blew a point oh nine during a early morning 437 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: stop UM and released on Boden later Saturday. UM. He 438 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: was actually ranked at rank greg at number eighty eight 439 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: on your Top one hundred free agents, but the market 440 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: has not come together. I don't know if Wilkerson is healthy, 441 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: but now and off the field incident not helping things. Well. 442 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: This will especially hurt his chances because he was rumored 443 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: to have a drinking problem when a member of the Jets, 444 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: I think it was that was pretty much out in 445 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: the open um and so any chance of him getting 446 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: back in the league it went down, I would have 447 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: thought he would have been able to play again. He 448 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: was playing okay at the beginning of last year before 449 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: he got hurt. It feels like I've heard more about 450 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: the negative stories of Mohammed Wilkerson having nothing to do 451 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: with his play than I've heard about his play. And 452 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: when on a list that only consists to players without 453 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: a job, I don't know that that means, like, you know, 454 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: any right to uh to be out with your adventures 455 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: on the road uh and other news. This is something 456 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: that we should all be plugging in on. A report 457 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: um published by the Breakthrough National Center for Climate Restoration 458 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: think tank in Melbourne, Australia, describes climate change as a 459 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: quote near to mid term existential threat to human civilization 460 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: and sets out a plausible scenario where business as usual 461 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 1: could lead over the next thirty years. And what's going 462 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: to happen the end of civilization? High likelihood of human 463 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: civilization coming to an end in twenty fifty. Who's work, 464 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: Who's by it? Well, here's what I'd say is that 465 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: what has got us into this situation already probably is 466 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: irreversible by any habits that we any better habits that 467 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: we conduct over the next couple of decades, because it 468 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: doesn't mean like everything is going to be fine on December. 469 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: That's the attitude they're trying to fight there is like 470 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: the that's essentially that, that's much of the opposition's argument. 471 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: It's kind of like there's no way to hold on. 472 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: I use my blue recyclable bin in my at my 473 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: household problem, right, so you're not. It freaks me out 474 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: when people come over to my house and throw away 475 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: things that are recyclable. I don't go through it, but 476 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: if there's something sitting right on top, I will take 477 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: it out and go putty. I looked at the positive 478 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 1: whause this guy said forty nine if he was asked 479 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: to give a percentage chance, you know, civilization starts to 480 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: you know, crumble, it's a better than half that we're 481 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: in the clear. You know who else doesn't like those odds? 482 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's attempts to play till he's forty, thank you, 483 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: which his career would wrap around, but then his then 484 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: suddenly you go into the later stages of life and 485 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: it's it's a wrap within seven years well, I mean 486 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: you want to enjoy that retirement. Its civilization is done 487 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: by fifty, then when is it starting to wipe up? 488 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: Like like when are we like really in crisis mode 489 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: like walking dead without the zombies, but we don't have 490 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: civilization anymore. I would say within seven years we'd start 491 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: to see fundamental breakdown issues that would be there would 492 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: still be years now or seven years now off. I 493 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: mean the Earth moves at a snail's pace, like it's 494 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: not like a seven things are going to start the 495 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: tail off, So that would really inhibit his chances of planking. 496 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 1: Largely sucky scenario. It's for everyone involved a thirty one 497 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: more years of NHL hockey, though to still enjoy it 498 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: does make you like think about wow, the debate about 499 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: the eighteen game NFL season doesn't seem as pressing. Put 500 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: that on the back burn. Finally, in the news, Scott 501 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: Smith of buccaneers dot Com has it. Over the weekend, 502 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: Bruce arians Bucks head coach, put some pressure on kicker 503 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: Matt Gay, the rookie who's in a big battle against 504 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: Cairo Santos. Lined up Gay for a fifty yard or 505 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 1: if he makes it, practice ends an hour early. If 506 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: he misses it, everyone hates him. That's how you do it. 507 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: Bruce pushing the right buttons, the rookie drilled and practice over. 508 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: Have a nice Gay Santos Zilch the number one camp 509 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: battle the track, Gay Santos writing that town right now. 510 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:57,479 Speaker 1: That's what's happening in the news. Hey, everybody, Father's Day 511 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,479 Speaker 1: coming up. That's a real thing. Every year we all 512 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: love it. Give Dad a gift packed with the Omaha 513 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: steaks he craves. And there's a Father's Day steak fixed 514 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: gift package five dollars. Listen to this only order now 515 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: and you'll get to filet mignon, two mignons. Maybe it's like, 516 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: what is the plural of filet mignon. I think it 517 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: would be filet mignons, but it would be fun if 518 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: it was one of those where it was filets mignon. 519 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: That's always fun anyway. Two top sirloins, two pork jobs 520 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: for Omaha Steaks, burgers for gourmet Jumbo Frank's for chicken 521 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: fried steaks, all beef meatballs, four chicken breasts. I'm still 522 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: going here for caramel apple tartlets, A packet of Omaha steaks. 523 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: Signal seasoning. Well, you got every covered caramel and apple, 524 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: and you get some dessert. You get four extra Omaha 525 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: steaks burgers for free. And by the way, that this 526 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: was sent to us our office today, the vultures got 527 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: to it before we all saw, so some of these 528 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: items were removed from the box. But I'm taking home 529 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: a chicken fried steak. Where you're taking them from taking them? 530 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: Some filets? Yeah, my my father in law uh said 531 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: he was going to cook up some steaks on the 532 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: grill yesterday. It never happened. Now I'm bringing you know, 533 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: I had a couple of drinks, took a nap, there's 534 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: a jet lag ordered, and now I'm bringing home. As 535 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: I'm bringing these home as a hero, he's cooking them 536 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: up tonight. We're also putting a little bit of pressure 537 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: on him now to actually do checked before I before 538 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: I know, to cook you know, it was before I 539 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: tried to you know, edge out Dan there for the steaks. 540 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that they were going to 541 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: go to good use. So I texted home and made 542 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: sure are you really going to make these this time? 543 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: Is that what she texted? Well? If these filet yawns, 544 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: come on, Dad, air quotes. Does anybody call their father 545 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: in law dad? No? No, that might be a big 546 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: on era. Anyway, Just go to Omaha Steaks dot com. 547 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: Type in the code around into the search bar. That's 548 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: Omaha Steaks dot Com. Type around in the search bar. 549 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: Get that Father's Day Steak fixed package today. One more. 550 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Black Talks, Black, Black Talks. I said, we 551 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: got black tuxes for the West nuptials from the Black 552 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: Ducks Company, and we were very happy with the problem 553 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: and the photos. Check it out on the Graham. Check 554 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: us out on on Instagram. You can see the work 555 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: of the Black Tucks. I mean some you know, if 556 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't fit the first time around, I I ordered 557 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: a replacement. Was very seamless order. It came right to me. 558 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: It was easy. Lindsay, when you're on the Graham and 559 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: you're scrolling, when you got the weekend of the wedding, 560 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: when you got to the four heroes of the podcast, 561 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: asked tuck Spot, did you just stop in your tracks? 562 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: Obviously what is going on here? There's a lot to 563 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: take in. Yeah, I can't remember the moment exactly. In 564 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: the kitchen, he was like, what was that, honey, It's 565 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: like nothing. Oh just look at it old pictures of you. Anyway, 566 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: if you want your wedding to be remembered for the 567 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: right reasons, uh, rent your suit or tuxedo at the 568 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: Black Tux dot com and enjoy twenty dollars off with 569 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: code around. That's the Black Tux dot Com code around 570 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: for twenty dollars off your purchase. The Black Tux formal 571 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: where for the moment. Really a good product. Everybody should 572 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: do it. All right, let's move on. Oh before we 573 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: do that, it's time for another t a topical with 574 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: Lindsay Rhodes. Now, I messed up the time, and I 575 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: actually now realized what I did wrong. And it's an 576 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: interesting kind of human trait reading it just to myself 577 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: in your mind much faster. I never took the extra 578 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: step to read it out loud. I have made a 579 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: similar mistake, I predict. I know I'm gonna do some editing. 580 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: Am I going up next? Or as a mark? Well, 581 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're in the middle of an editing process, 582 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: now it's gonna be simple. I'm gonna cross out this 583 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: line right here, trying to get it under and I 584 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: wish I had, But you know, men who said that 585 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: was that America. It was Lindsay Lindsay pretty much. Um yeah, 586 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: maybe read it through once and nothing surprises you, but 587 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: let's stop it. I didn't get the shafety reinforcements hit 588 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: the music. Ricky on NFL Total Access, Big Fin or 589 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: Big Baby, Jade Snyder on Jason Garrett's new hair colored, 590 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: Freddie Wayne on raising the minimum wage and special in 591 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: studio guest that guy from Modern Family again Total Access 592 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: seventies Stern still too long? It was that was? That 593 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: was good? Though? Which guy from Modern Fire Family? I 594 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: don't know. They always have the guy from and don't 595 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: know who it is, Like, Hey, some stone Street who's 596 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: a big Chiefs fan, which is obviously who he was 597 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: talking about. Or it could be the dad who's a 598 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: Rams fan. Yeah, but multiple dads on that show. The 599 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: dad like I always see him. I don't go out 600 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: on dates. Is that what we're talking about life anymore? What? 601 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: Who billed Dunfi the dad? Or were you talking about 602 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: stone Street? No, Duffy, how are you talking about him? 603 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 1: Stone Streets on Rich Eyes and Show like once we 604 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: but Duffy Duffy is like the main dad on the show, 605 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: and I've seen him many times in downtown Culver City, 606 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: just walking with his family. Just wanted to point that out. 607 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: All right, he's a RAMS fan. There you go. Now 608 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: you have something to talk about next time you encounter him. 609 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: Duffy it's not his real name. All right. That was good, 610 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: but we still have not hit it yet where the 611 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: music is SYNCD up with the I think there's like 612 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: a longer out tro where. Yeah, there's definitely a longer 613 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: because we have a thirty second the topical thirty seconds 614 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: m seconds. I think this was the plan, and no 615 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: one explored that there's still a window here to in 616 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: a lane to possibly pin it on our producer. Yeah, 617 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: I feel like and it's a small lane. But just 618 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: you've read these, is it true at some point? You 619 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: haven't had one where it was Big Ben or Big Baby? 620 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: What are they? A little too dealers? I enjoyed. I 621 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: enjoyed your copy, which was Judge, But I don't know 622 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,959 Speaker 1: that we'd go. We'd like couch it just like after 623 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: a game where he's complaining about the rafts or something. 624 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 1: Come on, where can you imagine that cut line graphically 625 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: like a Big Baby question mark? Well he's shining. Um, 626 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: all right, we got one more to come. A lot 627 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: of pressure on Mark, actually none because you both have 628 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 1: utterly failed. Literally, that's a good point. That's a good 629 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: Pointe will fall and be like within fifteen seconds and 630 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: we're good. All right, here we go. Let's get to 631 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: it now. Let's talk about under the radar m VP candidates. 632 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: You know, we all know the names that get thrown 633 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: out every year. You're Drew brees Is although he's never 634 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 1: won one. Uh Patrick Mahomes of course, will be a 635 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:16,919 Speaker 1: popular pick every year. That guy. There's always somebody out there. Greg, 636 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: I feel like you've done this before. This is it. 637 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson gonna win that trophy? Of course Tom Brady 638 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: who has a whole bunch of them, but where more 639 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: of the big Ben's finally got to win an MPU 640 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: or guy now I'm now I'm over with that. Although 641 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: if they have a good year, this is the year 642 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: for it to happen, because nobody can make the argument 643 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: that it is leavy On Bell that's really the reason 644 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: for his success or nobody else has Antonio Brown to throat, 645 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: it's never happened. He's thinking, never even come close. Brian 646 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: Bill came close on the j Cutler prediction that generated 647 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: some waves. Big Ben has one Team MVP award in 648 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: his entire career. So UM and the the idea I was, 649 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: I'm working on a piece. You could read it on Tuesday, 650 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: UM Team MVP Predictions in the a f C and 651 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: then on Wednesday NFC Team MVP Predictions. We are so 652 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 1: deep into. Don't be judging of the column. Just please 653 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: read it. I'll read it. I'll be sure to do. 654 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna be refreshing my Twitter feed. Alright, 655 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: So what we're gonna do is go around the horn 656 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: a couple of times here and throw out some UH 657 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: candidates and Greg I will start with you, throw out 658 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 1: and under the radar two MVP candidate. Well to do 659 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 1: this since now it seems like the NFL and UH 660 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: and the desert as we refer to here are getting 661 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: like a little tighter. It's like not as big a thing. 662 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: I went to even look at the odds, so I 663 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: didn't want to take anyone in the top ten possible. Wait, 664 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 1: can you kind of curious? Well, as we go along, 665 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: I'll say, what the here's one plus four thousand. I'm 666 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: just putting the number out there here. I don't know 667 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: what that means, but it sounds like a lot. I mean, yeah, 668 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: you put down a hundred, you get you would get 669 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: four thousand back for this. We're gonna have to cut 670 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:12,240 Speaker 1: all this out. Quarterbacks generally win it, but not always. 671 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: Occasionally they'll throw a running back in the mix. And 672 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: what running back I think is in a better position 673 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: to sneak up and get an m v P than 674 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara this year, not a lot of other big 675 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 1: time offensive skill weapons on that team. Not only is 676 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: mark Ingram gone, but it's basically just like Michael Thomas 677 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: and Alvin Kamara, and he does things that other players 678 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: just don't. And I think he is set up for 679 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: a twenty two thousand yards from scrimmage type of season 680 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: where he catches a ton of passes, he scores a 681 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: ton of touchdowns. You look at the Saints and on 682 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: paper they kind of look like the best team in 683 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 1: the NFL going into the year. And Drew Brees is 684 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: you know, he will certainly be in the mix if 685 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: if they're if they have that could have a record. 686 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: But if we're looking for under the radar and like 687 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,439 Speaker 1: something that might be a little more surprising, I could 688 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: absolutely see Alvin Kamara in his third season in the 689 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: league kind of putting it all together and having his 690 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 1: career year. I just think they wouldn't give it to 691 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: him over Breeze. Like if the Saints are in that position, 692 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: I think you've got to be in a spot like 693 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,399 Speaker 1: the other running backs that have won it, where Sean 694 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 1: Alexander or Ladinian Thomlinson. You score a lot of touchdowns, 695 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: you put up a lot of yards. Everyone can see 696 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 1: that it's not necessarily Drew Brees's best season. Uh, the 697 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: defense is really good. Are predicting it's not going to 698 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: be Drew Breeses in this scenario. Yeah, I mean if 699 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: if Drew Brees puts up a slightly worse season than 700 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: he did a year ago and it's their defense that 701 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 1: keeps getting better and it's Camara in the running game, 702 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,399 Speaker 1: I can absolutely see a scenario where they're the one 703 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 1: seed in cameo. And Yeah, to Lindsay's point, if Breeze 704 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: puts up a representative season, I think he would get 705 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: the nod. Well, a lot of this is narrative driven 706 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: in will in theory be the final year of Drew Brees. 707 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,839 Speaker 1: They there was a big push for that to happen 708 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: last year, you know, doing roughly seven billion video but 709 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: he didn't. In the end, Drew Brees, he didn't. But 710 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: that's like if if he did another Drew Breese ish 711 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 1: type year where he isn't noticeably falling off the cliff's 712 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 1: Alvin Camara, to me, is is such a unique, almost 713 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: singular type of player that he at this point to me, 714 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 1: has a better chance of putting together and absolutely bonkers 715 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: year that blows your mind, and Drew Brees does. Actually, 716 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: I think Breeze would have gotten it last year if 717 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: Mahomes wasn't so great. He just couldn't be denied. It 718 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: was five thousand yards, fifty touchdowns, basically was the most 719 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: exciting player in football. Um so Breeze how to take 720 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: the back seat. But I'm gonna bring up another third 721 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,359 Speaker 1: year running back about that, a guy that also came 722 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: very close to uh two thousand yards from scrimmage um 723 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 1: and also came about a hundred and twenty yards that 724 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: believe from being the third player ever running back ever 725 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 1: to have one thousand yards rushing and one thousand yards received. Thing. 726 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: I know where you're going the poor man's camera, Well, 727 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 1: that's when we put that's one way to put it. 728 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. You call him the poor man's camera. How 729 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,919 Speaker 1: dare you? This kid is after a nice rookie season 730 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: in Carolina, but maybe some a little bit underwhelming as 731 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: a rusher. I think last year he kind of absolutely 732 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: justified why Carolina used the top ten pick on a 733 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 1: running back. And I think things are kind of lined 734 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 1: up for this guy to even take his game up 735 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: to the next level. When you think about Cam Newton 736 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 1: and where he's at physically now coming back from the 737 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: second shoulder surgery, He's thirty years old. That entire organization 738 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,879 Speaker 1: is all about how do we get um Cam Newton 739 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: through a season healthier? And you know what that means. 740 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: Cam Newton is not going to be diving over the 741 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: goal line anymore. He's gonna be absolutely running lest We 742 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 1: saw that last year when McCaffrey became kind of their 743 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 1: goal line guy. So you're gonna he's gonna be a 744 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 1: touch monster. We know that McCaffrey both as receiver and 745 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: a russia, but he's also gonna be their goal line guy. 746 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 1: And I think Caroline is gonna be a good team 747 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: this year. I think they're gonna be in the mix, 748 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: so they won't be an also around like they turned 749 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 1: into last year if Camp could stay healthy. So for 750 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 1: all those reasons, I think mccavery, who I guess some 751 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 1: people call a poor man something, I believe he is 752 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 1: a superstar and in his third year is primed maybe 753 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,839 Speaker 1: have his best season. I like it because, I mean, 754 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: under the radar has to this exercise has to happen, 755 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 1: acknowledging that the way this voting process works makes running 756 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: backs extremely unlikely unless they have one of these absolutely 757 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: blow your mind seasons. But I feel like for McCaffrey 758 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: to win, because you're gonna be battling guys like Sequon 759 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,479 Speaker 1: Barkley and fill in the blank. To that your numbers 760 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 1: are gonna have to be so huge, and you're gonna 761 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: have to have like single handedly won four or five 762 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: like key games for them, and they need to go 763 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: like thirteen and three, which that's all possible. But I 764 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: just like in the mix that well Peterson, that was 765 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: a and the six vikings seem I don't think the 766 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 1: team needs to be a total monster force, but he 767 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 1: has to be clearly like with breeze Um and Camara 768 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,320 Speaker 1: has to be the guy that's seen as the engine 769 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 1: driving the show. And even more than that, it has 770 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 1: to be almost like historic if it's if it's going 771 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 1: to be team. And they went into the off season 772 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 1: saying they thought, you know, they wanted to take the 773 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: load off him a little bit, but then they did 774 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: absolutely nothing to get someone really capable of taking that 775 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: load off. So he'll get a lot of carries. I 776 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: worry more about him than Camara in terms of total touch. 777 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 1: It like Camara is just a little thicker, like they think, 778 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,359 Speaker 1: have you seen McCaffrey recently? That's true. He's looking he's 779 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,240 Speaker 1: almost well, he's looking like he's on Dion Jordan's season. 780 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 1: And Melvin Gordon has the best shot of the running 781 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,800 Speaker 1: backs for the reason, so the same reason that I 782 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: think of. And that's not my answer, by the way, 783 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: but so I think it was. Mark's answer is no, okay, 784 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 1: I'll shift gears. No no, no no no. If Melvin, no, 785 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:02,800 Speaker 1: it was not, I was a Tory. You're good, alright, 786 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 1: guess God stay in your lane. Um, I mean, because 787 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,360 Speaker 1: he doesn't have a quarterback who is going to demand 788 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: the votes, right, So if the Chargers are that are 789 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 1: really good team this year, which I think a lot 790 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 1: of people expect them to be. Then it kind of 791 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,400 Speaker 1: is going to run through Melvin. He's going to be 792 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 1: a big part of the reason why, and then Philip. 793 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,320 Speaker 1: He's always good and he'll be a part of it. 794 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 1: But I don't think that people he's not slotted in 795 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 1: that like, well, if they're really good, we have to 796 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 1: vote for Philip. I think people will think that the 797 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: difference maker there is Melvin because Phillip has always been 798 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: there and he's always been good, and they still haven't 799 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 1: gone anywhere. So I think so, I I'm wondering how 800 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: dark horse we're going to need to be because I'm 801 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 1: not like you. It's not going to be a running 802 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,400 Speaker 1: back because there are never any running back. So I 803 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 1: like the dark horse factor, but I don't think it's 804 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 1: going to be a dark I don't think it's going 805 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,879 Speaker 1: to be that. So I'm going quarterback like Andrew luck 806 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 1: is not dark horse, right, like you take him off 807 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 1: the tip, Okay, so then we're going like really dark horse. 808 00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw Derek Carr out there, and here is 809 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 1: why I'm going to do it, because we've seen him 810 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 1: have an m v P caliber season before, so we 811 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: know that he can do it. It's not a total 812 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 1: like shot in the dark. And now you have these 813 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 1: offensive weapons that are playing with him. You put some 814 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 1: weapons in front of him on the offensive line. I 815 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 1: think that offense could look incredibly different ways that we 816 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: can't even really fathom right now because they were so 817 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 1: bad last year. Derek Carr was a checkdown king last 818 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,839 Speaker 1: season UM, but he didn't have any weapons that could 819 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 1: really stretch the field. PF just put out some numbers 820 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 1: in the last couple of days. Has he's their number 821 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,320 Speaker 1: one rated UM deep ball efficiency passer in the league. 822 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,800 Speaker 1: Part of that probably is because he didn't go downfield 823 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,319 Speaker 1: very much and so maybe that could be a knock 824 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 1: against him. But he had like a fifty two completion 825 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 1: percentage on UM deep passes, so he can do that, 826 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: and he certainly has the weapons to do that with 827 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,439 Speaker 1: Hayrol Williams and Antonio Brown and now you have Josh 828 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 1: Jacobs in the backfield keeping defenses. Honest I think you 829 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 1: could see a major turnaround because his rating is a 830 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,399 Speaker 1: little low right now. I feel like he's been through 831 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: super rough two years, but everyone felt very different, much 832 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 1: differently about him before he got hurt, he got some, 833 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 1: he got some literal m v P votes. So the 834 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 1: fact that he is now right now plus ten thousand 835 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: around which is the same, which is basically what they 836 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 1: give to someone that has almost no shot. Joe Flacco 837 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 1: is there, James Conner, Kyler, Murray, Leonard four Net, Josh Allen. 838 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 1: So he's drive East, Lindsay's deep drive East is what 839 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 1: I'll say, if you truly believe it. I mean, it's 840 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: a team award partly, so they will have to win 841 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,319 Speaker 1: some games for that to happen. I think ten, as 842 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 1: we've learned with ten, sounds about right. But for quarterback, 843 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 1: you're right, he's gonna have to win more than that. 844 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 1: And you are forever tied to Derek Carr in this 845 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,839 Speaker 1: podcast is as the woman who brokered the piece. Of course, 846 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 1: you're welcome between Greg and I and Derek who unblocked us. 847 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 1: There was a Pro Football Talk put out a right 848 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: up this slow part of the season football calendar, UH 849 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 1: did a whole article about how they were blocked by 850 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 1: Derek car or maybe it was a tweet. Maybe I 851 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,799 Speaker 1: don't know. If I don't know that Pro Football Talks, UH, 852 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 1: they're not articles so much as far as that as 853 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 1: complaints on Twitter. Uh so Derek is still blocking away. 854 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,400 Speaker 1: But at last time I checked, Um, we're safe, We're safe. 855 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 1: And that's when somebody on the show is saying m 856 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,359 Speaker 1: v P for Derek Carr. That only hell, that's good. 857 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,239 Speaker 1: That reflects well on us. I mean that would be 858 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 1: that is a dark horse. But to your point, Mark, yeah, 859 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 1: it wasn't that long ago. It's always dangerous to play 860 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 1: the it wasn't that long ago game, especially in the NFL. 861 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 1: But he was before he broke his ankle. He was 862 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 1: playing at a high level. Now he has arguably the 863 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,760 Speaker 1: best wide receiver in football on his team. Why couldn't 864 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 1: he get back to those heights throwing out there, Sessler, 865 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 1: I you know, you have to go back to six 866 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 1: for a defensive player to have wanted Lawrence Taylor. And 867 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,479 Speaker 1: yet I would argue that it's concerning that that J. J. Watt, 868 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,799 Speaker 1: for instance, his absolute peak, didn't pull one of these 869 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 1: wards because it's clear to me the Defensive Player of 870 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 1: the Year is essentially just what they're calling m v 871 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 1: P on defense, and it's the same thing. It's like 872 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 1: we have gone thirty something years since the defensive players 873 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 1: so I was like coming up with someone that could 874 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 1: maybe pull it off, and it needs to be for me, 875 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,400 Speaker 1: a team or a player that would generate an intense 876 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,280 Speaker 1: amount of sacks. It would be like a record setting 877 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,319 Speaker 1: type year and on a great defense, on a team 878 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 1: that could have the best record in the a f C. 879 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 1: And so I went with Joey Bosa. And you need 880 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,839 Speaker 1: him to stay healthy. That's a concern, but it does 881 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 1: seem like a guy because I love that they got 882 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 1: Jerry Tillery to kind of clog up the middle, and 883 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 1: you still have Melvin Ingram, You've got there's reason to 884 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 1: believe that Bosa will be not getting triple teamed as much. 885 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 1: He have a chance to have a big year if 886 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 1: he stays healthy puts up an insane amount of sacks. 887 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 1: And then there's needs to be because it's all narrative driven. 888 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 1: This mid season sort of ground swell for why haven't 889 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,399 Speaker 1: we picked a defensive player in so long? Isn't something 890 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 1: wrong with our system? Now? The defensive players in the league, 891 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,719 Speaker 1: and then bang Bosa gets picked and you look back 892 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 1: on this early June episode and to say, how did 893 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 1: he know ahead of times six months ago that this 894 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 1: would happen episode over. Wow, I think honestly, I you're right, 895 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 1: that's like forever ago. I think you need like sacks 896 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,799 Speaker 1: to win the m v P probably like not even 897 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 1: break the record, like shadow the record. I think that's 898 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,799 Speaker 1: probably what he'd have to do. And that's a tall right. 899 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 1: I think what seasons and one of them was against 900 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers's best season, so that was it was that 901 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:42,439 Speaker 1: Cam Newton had but that season where was what versus Cam? 902 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,319 Speaker 1: Like those are the best defensive seasons possible. Aaron Donald really, 903 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 1: if you look at at least that's the pressures and 904 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,760 Speaker 1: stuff would be up there, and he really hasn't gotten 905 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,839 Speaker 1: much attention, so it's gonna be tough. Joey Boss has 906 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 1: gotta he just gotta stay healthy. He's probably three years 907 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,360 Speaker 1: right now. He has one really healthy year out of 908 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,720 Speaker 1: those three. Aaron's shot would be this year if Gurley 909 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,279 Speaker 1: doesn't pan out, but the offense somehow still works, although no, 910 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,240 Speaker 1: because then if the offense works without Girly, then people 911 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,319 Speaker 1: it will be because golf is good. So never mind 912 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,880 Speaker 1: game winning plays for a defensive player, even though a 913 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,239 Speaker 1: lot of that it would be on luck. Is how 914 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 1: you do it, like Paulo Malo and suck like where 915 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,880 Speaker 1: you make where you make like three play at the 916 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 1: end of a game to win a game. That that 917 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,800 Speaker 1: what about Khalil Mack because Cleil Mac has the potential 918 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,440 Speaker 1: to make those plays in that type of environment on 919 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 1: a team that really doesn't have any other superstars. So 920 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,560 Speaker 1: early about defense, right, Like if you look like I 921 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,799 Speaker 1: would think, if you look at October last year, Mac 922 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 1: is someone that you would have had to say has 923 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,880 Speaker 1: a chance to if he continues to and it is 924 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 1: climbing having those great games if Al Michael's and Chris 925 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 1: Collinsworth are in the building. When you have those games 926 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,000 Speaker 1: and it becomes the big story on Monday, all that stuff, 927 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 1: like you're saying, Mark with a narrative, it's built into 928 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 1: It's a storyline reward as much as it is a production. 929 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 1: Let's go one more time around the worn, a little quicker, 930 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:06,719 Speaker 1: a little speed round. We're all right, Well, I'll go 931 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 1: with Deshaun Watson, who I think is someone who can 932 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 1: make enough absolutely incredible plays who obviously is just putting 933 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,719 Speaker 1: a team on his back in a way that they love. 934 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,880 Speaker 1: M VP voters love that it's not about almost anyone 935 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:25,280 Speaker 1: else it's just about Deshaun Watson like making extraordinary plays, 936 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 1: and I like, if I was trying to take a 937 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,799 Speaker 1: real long shot at quarterback, he would be my pick. 938 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 1: That was my choice as well for everything you just said, 939 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 1: and also just the idea that he kind of has 940 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 1: been a little bit overlooked in the conversation with the 941 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,560 Speaker 1: best young quarterbacks in football, and he shouldn't be. With 942 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 1: that awful offensive line where he got sacked sixty two times, 943 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,839 Speaker 1: knocked down a hundred and thirty two times, He's still 944 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 1: accounted for thirty one of their thirty eight touchdowns. Watson 945 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,520 Speaker 1: is a stud and if that offensive line, if the 946 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:56,960 Speaker 1: upgrades take, he will get a lot better and those 947 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,280 Speaker 1: numbers could reflect in an m v P type campaign. 948 00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,880 Speaker 1: What about you, Lin's um, this is not what I 949 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,719 Speaker 1: believe will happen, But I'm just gonna throw out a 950 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 1: dark horse option because when you look at the teams 951 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,760 Speaker 1: that are it has to be a team that's positioned 952 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,239 Speaker 1: to do well. If the team does well, it will 953 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,800 Speaker 1: likely because this person is playing well. I'm gonna go 954 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson just because if he takes that step from 955 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,840 Speaker 1: one to two, if he fixes some of what appeared 956 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 1: to be flaws in the passing game, but he still 957 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:25,440 Speaker 1: has that run game ability, which obviously he will um 958 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 1: then and if the Ravens are good next year, which 959 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 1: I think that you know, they've taken a hit in 960 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,080 Speaker 1: terms of expectations. Everybody's talking about the Browns, so people 961 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,799 Speaker 1: will be more surprised that they're good, and then they'll 962 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 1: be more likely to reward the reason why So I 963 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 1: think maybe a'll uh, like you know, Cam when he 964 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,680 Speaker 1: won that m VP year, kind of from an expectation standpoint, 965 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,880 Speaker 1: you just kind of come out of maybe maybe Lamar 966 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,320 Speaker 1: He's probably not going to put up like numbers that 967 00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:00,640 Speaker 1: normally net an m v P A court. I'm surprised 968 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 1: looking at the odds that he actually has better odds 969 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 1: than Derek Carr. He he was not that low unless 970 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,840 Speaker 1: he was right in the same ballpark of Deshaun Watson. Uh, finally, 971 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 1: close this out, Mark, This is one where um, I 972 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 1: don't I'm not gonna go bet the house that I 973 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 1: don't even own on this, but um Kyler Murray and 974 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 1: let me throw it out to you. Why I think 975 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,280 Speaker 1: it could. It doesn't need the Cardinals to go thirteen 976 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,799 Speaker 1: and three because I think it's going to be an 977 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 1: offense that from wire to wire gets a ton of attention, 978 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 1: and for good reason, I think they're gonna be They went. 979 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 1: It helps to have gone from being one of the 980 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 1: most boring teams to watch in our human lifetime to 981 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 1: what will be potentially a fascinating human attack. And if 982 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,839 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray goes out and does things that we haven't 983 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,000 Speaker 1: seen a quarterback do, and if he succeeds, he plays 984 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 1: from wire to wire, throws a ton of touchdowns and 985 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,400 Speaker 1: they lighted up and maybe knock out a few heavy 986 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,760 Speaker 1: hitters down the stretch and play that sort of berserker 987 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,839 Speaker 1: role that knocks like a team like the Packers out 988 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,320 Speaker 1: of the playoffs or something late, and Kyler Murray is 989 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,680 Speaker 1: sort of doing it week to week. Then it is 990 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,880 Speaker 1: he becomes the guy that suddenly is even more exciting 991 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,719 Speaker 1: than Patrick Mahomes from a perception angle, and you get 992 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,879 Speaker 1: voters to start voting for that kind of thing. Long shot, Yes, 993 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,640 Speaker 1: that would be outrageous if he stepped into the league 994 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,879 Speaker 1: and was dominant and they still probably have to win 995 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,920 Speaker 1: get pos I think they go. Let's say they were 996 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,399 Speaker 1: like a sexy nine and seven where in or out 997 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,279 Speaker 1: like you can just say the whole organization has been 998 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,480 Speaker 1: totally changed by coach and quarter. Mean, I'd love to 999 00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:35,880 Speaker 1: know the last time there was an m v P, 1000 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,360 Speaker 1: if there ever was, where the team didn't make the playoffs. 1001 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 1: I know what Peterson did it. They just barely got in. Well, 1002 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 1: that's why it's so narrative driven though it's it's but 1003 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's Barry standards one along with 1004 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,960 Speaker 1: Brett Farve. I don't know what they did that year. Um, anyway, good, 1005 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 1: good stuff. We got another one, another topical mark A 1006 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,759 Speaker 1: lot of stress around this problem? Am I supposed to 1007 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,840 Speaker 1: read that part? Yeah? The whole thing? Okay, got it? 1008 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,160 Speaker 1: All right? You ready? Wait too long? And then Ricky 1009 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,799 Speaker 1: you have one too, right? Yeah, I just whipped on up. Okay, 1010 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,279 Speaker 1: Ricky whipped on up as well. Well, it's gonna be 1011 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,279 Speaker 1: timed out perfectly from the producer. Well we'll see about that. Well, 1012 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,800 Speaker 1: she's a professional. She's been reading it out loud in 1013 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,320 Speaker 1: the booth. She has not even been listening to the shows. 1014 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,840 Speaker 1: Well that wouldn't be new. All right, here we go, 1015 00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 1: Lindsay Rhodes take it away on NFL Total Access. Oh, 1016 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 1: Odell what's next for the Browns after Odell Beckham was 1017 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:35,240 Speaker 1: kidnapped by an angry band of female Cause players dressed 1018 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:40,480 Speaker 1: up as Velma from Scooby Doo? Did you run out already? Okay? 1019 00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,800 Speaker 1: And is it Cause Players? I've always wondered how you 1020 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,960 Speaker 1: pronounced that. I think you nailed that. Okay, she still 1021 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:50,359 Speaker 1: got his version because it fades out in the real verse. 1022 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,000 Speaker 1: That's what I was saying earlier. Adam Gates response to 1023 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,840 Speaker 1: reports that Sam Donald has been bald since age seventeen. 1024 00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 1: It wears a meaty blondish wig made from the preserved 1025 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 1: tea or your frontier at seven Eastern. Um, Sam Donalds 1026 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,719 Speaker 1: hare is real and it is magnificent. That's what you think? 1027 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 1: All right? Here comes Erica, Erica, by the way it 1028 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:16,839 Speaker 1: should be uh oh wait yea Erica, who totally um 1029 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 1: is gaslighting us right now? There you go? Okay, here 1030 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:25,160 Speaker 1: we go by cutting down of the bed music. Now 1031 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:31,000 Speaker 1: will attempt to nail it, Lindsay take it away on 1032 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:35,000 Speaker 1: NFL Total Access Interviews with three podcast bozos who talked 1033 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,480 Speaker 1: too much and football stuff you actually care about tonight. 1034 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,920 Speaker 1: Well well done, Erica, Way to go, Erica. You're the best. 1035 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:50,960 Speaker 1: You've done it again. You win. I didn't see that coming. 1036 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:56,480 Speaker 1: I thought you was gonna be so nice. Three podcast 1037 00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:00,200 Speaker 1: bozos who talked too much. Also West once a end 1038 00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,239 Speaker 1: left out of the mix, and some football stuff you 1039 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,880 Speaker 1: actually care about that. I like, you know, you know 1040 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 1: what shows what Erica's fair play? Fair play? H Lindsay. 1041 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,880 Speaker 1: I mean, what can be said? You came in and 1042 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,360 Speaker 1: you said it all. You've you've done it again and 1043 00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 1: let it Let it be known to the audience that 1044 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,320 Speaker 1: um Lindsay did it all with not a single paper 1045 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,920 Speaker 1: in front of her because and there's no tele prompt either, 1046 00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, there were a lot of really 1047 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:34,720 Speaker 1: heavily detailed arguments that were made. I was like, no, 1048 00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:40,240 Speaker 1: that's stupid. I mean you and you're doing it truly 1049 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 1: before an NFL total axis. You're on the air and 1050 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 1: about this is true two hours less than two hours 1051 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:51,320 Speaker 1: from now? Follow Lindsay, how's the pre showed nerves? You know? 1052 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:55,080 Speaker 1: Right now? The only nerves that I have are I'm 1053 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,280 Speaker 1: refreshing constantly to see if Drill McCoy signed, because we 1054 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,600 Speaker 1: would love to have that story for our luck. Because 1055 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,080 Speaker 1: it's June. You still feel like a little bit of 1056 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 1: juice in the moments before the show starts, right, you 1057 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,000 Speaker 1: don't want to be totally dead inside to that, right, 1058 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,800 Speaker 1: I wouldn't describe myself as dead inside in that moment, 1059 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,120 Speaker 1: but I don't know that I have nerves anymore before 1060 00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 1: Total Access And yes, you sort of forget that people 1061 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 1: are actually watching because there's about the same, like fifteen 1062 00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:21,760 Speaker 1: people on set every day, so it just sort of 1063 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,520 Speaker 1: feels like you're having just like we're just like a 1064 00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,760 Speaker 1: family just putting together show, and it's like anybody else 1065 00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:29,760 Speaker 1: sees it's like they're looking outside the window of our 1066 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:36,400 Speaker 1: living room, that type of vibe. Total Access Monday to Friday, 1067 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 1: seven pm Eastern on NFL Network And follow Lindsay and 1068 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 1: she's a good following the old social media. You're fine 1069 00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:51,320 Speaker 1: when once every two weeks Lindsay underscore roads and thank 1070 00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,120 Speaker 1: you again. Thanks guys, come back anytime. We love you. 1071 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,880 Speaker 1: All Right, that's it, We'll be back Wednesday. So uh, 1072 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 1: while usually say at the end of this, so this 1073 00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,440 Speaker 1: Dan handsOn signing off four Quiet Storm, Lindsay Rhodes, the 1074 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,800 Speaker 1: old Boston rookie Hollywood behind the Glass, when will we 1075 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:34,840 Speaker 1: be back? Already said it un till Wednesday m