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Speaker 1: It's another episode of the Gangst Chronicles, and you know
Speaker 1: what it is. I'm with my dude. I don't even
Speaker 1: know why we make these introductions every week. Man Like,
Speaker 1: people don't know it's us. Yeah shit, they just they
Speaker 1: like to hear the shit. I guess, like, well, I
Speaker 1: am big stealing im with my homeboy. He goes by
Speaker 1: Jed every week. But y'all know him as m C eight.
Speaker 1: You know what it is, you know, m C eight
Speaker 1: rap phenomenon, rap legend. He don't like seeing it. That's
Speaker 1: why I like fucking with him all the time because
Speaker 1: he don't like that. He likes to be a regular motherfucker.
Speaker 1: But he not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we just we just regular, man. Oh no, you
Speaker 4: you you you far from regular. You far from regular.
Speaker 4: That really bother you when motherfucker's be calling you a
Speaker 4: legend and all that shit. Nah, I come with your territory.
Speaker 4: You know, you gotta expect it from fans. I just
Speaker 4: don't be uh, you know, a nigga.
Speaker 3: Don't be trying to.
Speaker 4: I guess, get clout with that shit or you know,
Speaker 4: special treatment, you know. I you know. But like I said,
Speaker 4: fans gonna be fans. So you know, you gotta have
Speaker 4: let people you know, you know, especially when they spending
Speaker 4: money on your product and they been doing it for years,
Speaker 4: so it can't debate with fans.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's real, that's real.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of stuff going on I guess
Speaker 1: this Tory Lane shit just won't go away.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I saw a little something about that shit. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's a lot of shit been going on, man.
Speaker 1: Well apparently his drivers came out now and said that
Speaker 1: the girl actually had the gun. I'll bet you Tory
Speaker 1: sitting up the zeil like damn man, you just decided
Speaker 1: to say this shit that the fire has been locked
Speaker 1: up all this time.
Speaker 3: You gotta wonder why.
Speaker 4: But you know, it's a lot of that going around,
Speaker 4: you know, people that uh, the criteria of what motherfuckers claimed,
Speaker 4: you know, snitching and holding information or not holding information
Speaker 4: or telling or not telling. Well, the spectrum is very
Speaker 4: wide today.
Speaker 1: The spectrum is very very wide, man. You know, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three don't been a trip though. Year. I just
Speaker 1: remember keethy D coming up to the mansion and it
Speaker 1: was one of those things to where I didn't want
Speaker 1: to interview him, man, because I kind of knew it
Speaker 1: was gonna be some shit down the line, and I
Speaker 1: didn't really want to have nothing to do with none
Speaker 1: of that stuff. I didn't want to have no footage
Speaker 1: Subpoanut or none of that other stuff. Was he was
Speaker 1: talking about some deep stuff. You remember, that, Brian, don't you.
Speaker 1: He came up there and we sat in the backyard
Speaker 1: and he kind of just broke down what happened with everything,
Speaker 1: And I was kind of telling him back then, I
Speaker 1: see a dude, do you think it's wise for you
Speaker 1: to be going around just kind of talking about this
Speaker 1: shit because it ain't no statue with limitations on murder dog.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what that.
Speaker 4: You know, you know, sometimes he's supposed to you know,
Speaker 4: secrets is supposed to die with you.
Speaker 3: But fortunately in this day and age of of where
Speaker 3: we are.
Speaker 4: As far as, like I said, wanting to become famous,
Speaker 4: you know, you.
Speaker 3: Got a lot of a lot of niggas who.
Speaker 4: Who's supposed to follow that street code of you know,
Speaker 4: being real hood so to speak, you know, especially from
Speaker 4: uh the walks of life where we come from, camped
Speaker 4: in La whatever, those those neighborhood spots. You're supposed to
Speaker 4: follow a code. But yeah, today everybody want to be famous.
Speaker 1: You get me?
Speaker 3: Said that what a thousand times? A thousand times?
Speaker 4: Motherfardy's comfortable with being just regular today. Man, So you know,
Speaker 4: from the gangster of gangster motherfuckers today will be like shit,
Speaker 4: don't give me a podcast or interview or story going
Speaker 4: or whatever.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, motherfuckers want to be famous. Dog.
Speaker 4: Definitely, the elevation of clout chasing is you just see
Speaker 4: it every day with everything.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: You could just go on your you know, everybody got
Speaker 4: phones and lap laptops or tablets or whatever, and this
Speaker 4: shit is crazy because you can see shit every day.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: All you gotta do is just turn on your power
Speaker 4: up your phone or your laptop or your tablet or whatever.
Speaker 4: And if you go to those social media sites with motherfuckers,
Speaker 4: is you know, trying to be known? Oh you gonna
Speaker 4: see a motherfucker guaranteed you get me.
Speaker 1: Oh for sure.
Speaker 4: Like I said that, the level of the regular motherfucker
Speaker 4: is elevated today.
Speaker 3: You can't be a regular motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Oh no, you can't, motherfucker. You know what though, Man,
Speaker 1: I come from this right here. Even people trying to
Speaker 1: determine what snitch and nails is just Q right now,
Speaker 1: like you have people saying just certain things. You know,
Speaker 1: everything is snitching out right or definitely to me with
Speaker 1: snitching is this me and you decide to hop a
Speaker 1: gate and you get away, and I just come out
Speaker 1: and say, well, you know what, eight did it because
Speaker 1: I want you know, I don't want to take my punishment,
Speaker 1: so to speak. You know, to me that snitching dog.
Speaker 1: You know, the rules ain't never been so clear. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you want to really.
Speaker 4: Take it to a certain extent of the code from
Speaker 4: the neighborhood, you know what I'm saying. You know what
Speaker 4: that is? Shit, that's fucking nigga. If we gonna do
Speaker 4: some dirt, you get caught, you shut your fucking mouth.
Speaker 3: You get me.
Speaker 4: That That's how it's always been perceived with the snitching
Speaker 4: aspect as far as my day of banging and shit.
Speaker 4: Neighborhood shit, you get caught. You know about about serious shit,
Speaker 4: you get me. That's just whatever line it may come to.
Speaker 4: You know, who had the work, who pulled the trigger?
Speaker 4: You know, nigga, that just just anything. You get me.
Speaker 4: You don't tell. When you got a motherfucking co defended
Speaker 4: and y'all you know on some same shit, y'all did
Speaker 4: a drive bo together, y'all sold some work together. You know,
Speaker 4: you don't tell. You take your you know, if that
Speaker 4: nigga got away, whatever the case may be, you just
Speaker 4: don't rat.
Speaker 3: That's what it is. Everything today is ratting.
Speaker 4: You feel me?
Speaker 1: You know what? Man, this is one of the things
Speaker 1: right here, right, This is the thing about it is. Man,
Speaker 1: You got a bunch of young cats. Now they used
Speaker 1: to call everything snickching, right right, you know everything snickching.
Speaker 1: Your mama call a police on somebody else. She rated
Speaker 1: his mama rap. First of all, we gotta get some
Speaker 1: stuff clear. If you are a civilian, you are incapable
Speaker 1: of being a rap. If you a mother, a regular
Speaker 1: dude to go to nine to five, you don't do
Speaker 1: no crime, You're supposed to call a police somebody breaking
Speaker 1: your house. You feel what I'm saying. That's just what
Speaker 1: it is you do. Now. If you're a criminal, if
Speaker 1: you belong to the underworld and you going out doing crime,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to keep your motherfucking mouthshit. When I was
Speaker 1: doing my thing, if I would have got caught doing
Speaker 1: what I was doing, I would have had to accept
Speaker 1: them consequences and go do my time. Definitely, and go
Speaker 1: do my time. It wasn't up to me to telling
Speaker 1: nobody else. You gotta kind of you gotta you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You can't go in there decide to
Speaker 1: eat she'ese the last minute. Because everybody is accountable for
Speaker 1: what they do. Every man is accountable for what they
Speaker 1: do in the game.
Speaker 4: It's like I said, with social media being involved and
Speaker 4: everybody wants to be in front of the camera now,
Speaker 4: it's just takes in it to a different level of
Speaker 4: what motherfuckers claim snitching is. You know, shit, you got
Speaker 4: motherfucking so called hood niggas who want to be more
Speaker 4: you know, famous than being so called hood nigga today
Speaker 4: And I ain't gonna knock a nigga for won't it's
Speaker 4: changed his lifestyle. But it's just crazy how you know,
Speaker 4: we have this code in the streets of what you're
Speaker 4: supposed to and what you're not supposed to be when
Speaker 4: you claiming to be gangster.
Speaker 1: And everybody breaking it every day. I just saw some
Speaker 1: shit man, and I ain't gonna say this dude's name
Speaker 1: because I don't like getting the habit of saying people's
Speaker 1: names that they just need an excuse. It was this
Speaker 1: cat man. He was just going in on this well
Speaker 1: known blogger, like going in on them all the time. Anyway,
Speaker 1: he has a little incident to where he gets shut
Speaker 1: or whatever, he gets shut guess whose platform he pops
Speaker 1: up on. He pops up on this same platform, and
Speaker 1: he been talking mess about this dude the whole time.
Speaker 1: And I just sit back and look at it. Man.
Speaker 1: I think people we in the age of the era.
Speaker 1: We in the era right now, man, to where if
Speaker 1: somebody said, hey, man, if you suck your mama's titty
Speaker 1: on life, you go get a million views, You go
Speaker 1: get it, You'll go five hundred thousand likes, you'll go viral.
Speaker 4: I think people will do it, man. I'll be like
Speaker 4: I said, you see some crazy shit on on these
Speaker 4: social media sites.
Speaker 3: Man, where like I.
Speaker 4: Said, mama's and and mama's and daddies and cousins and
Speaker 4: brothers and nigg motherfucker, won't they shot at the limelight.
Speaker 1: The whole family is in on it.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: It's like waking up and being a normal motherfucker. Then
Speaker 4: even to the nigga in the street, just being a
Speaker 4: regular nigga in the street ain't enoughing no more.
Speaker 1: It ain't, man, you know what It's become. Almost like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a prime example. You know I've
Speaker 1: always had and I think I've let it be known
Speaker 1: this show that I've always had regular stuff that I've
Speaker 1: done outside the show, right. I got like a little company, man,
Speaker 1: to where we distribute little beverages and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: You know, we distribute beverages. I got some money in
Speaker 1: this other little trucking thing. I've always thought that like
Speaker 1: being in the world of entertainment. One thing that has
Speaker 1: shown me, man, that everything ain't guaranteed. Oh definitely. I
Speaker 1: like having another means of income, and that's how I've
Speaker 1: always been able to sustain what it is I got.
Speaker 1: I ain't never had no problem playing my house, noe.
Speaker 1: I ain't never had no cars getting told from in
Speaker 1: front of my yard. I've always had some kind of money. Now,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. I don't get rich per se
Speaker 1: off these other businesses, but they sustain theyself right.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: So I was out one day, man, I was checking
Speaker 1: up on some stuff with one of my partners, man,
Speaker 1: and I saw a dude that enjoyed the show. And
Speaker 1: the first thing he said, Man, you are real dude.
Speaker 1: Uh you really be y'all here? I said, yeah, Man,
Speaker 1: I'm a real law I'm a man first and foremost
Speaker 1: form anything else. I don't look at myself as a
Speaker 1: dude that's too good to do stuff. I talk to
Speaker 1: you all the time, ate about a little different investment opportunities.
Speaker 1: Or definitely, I'm too scared to fuck with the crypto shit,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I'd rather go out
Speaker 1: and buy a truck now, man, or invest in some
Speaker 1: other business. It's more a little bit more tangible. But
Speaker 1: first of all, I don't know enough about the crypto stuff.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind getting into it. I've been talking to
Speaker 1: the homeboy shout out Willie d WILLI d been telling
Speaker 1: me a little bit about it, But I think, man,
Speaker 1: you know, I ain't bother them like that. I can't
Speaker 1: go out and lose fifteen to twenty grand or some shit.
Speaker 4: We you know when I guess when you when you
Speaker 4: used to getting your money in the streets, changing over
Speaker 4: to the legal side, you get skeptical about what you
Speaker 4: because you already know what the work gonna do, or
Speaker 4: you ain't know what the prices is, how much you
Speaker 4: get for whatever, and how you can get your product off.
Speaker 4: But you know, when you start getting into the legal
Speaker 4: field and investing in trying to figure out your way
Speaker 4: to go, it's always skeptical, especially if You're a nigga
Speaker 4: who you know is tight with your bread. You know,
Speaker 4: you want to make sure your shit is sustainable for
Speaker 4: your family in the long run. And like you said,
Speaker 4: you ain't gonna be back to the block trying to
Speaker 4: do crazy shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, keep them bills paid.
Speaker 1: Because I've had opportunities even with that man, And it's
Speaker 1: just me being the age I am now. A It's
Speaker 1: way different man that when you're fifty two dog firstus
Speaker 1: you being nineteen twenty twenty one years old. Man, Oh,
Speaker 1: definitely know what I'm saying. And don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: I've had thoughts just like it. I'm steal a man.
Speaker 1: I've had thoughts like, man, shoot, I can go do
Speaker 1: this now, but I think that game is I think
Speaker 1: that game is dead now though though it's some niggas still,
Speaker 1: you know, pushing, But you know, we come along with
Speaker 1: that man, more so with the money. Man, it's the
Speaker 1: time and just because when you jump back off into
Speaker 1: that shit like that, though, you are going to have
Speaker 1: to set the tone with a motherfucker dog. You go
Speaker 1: have niggas just go want to play with you. Definitely,
Speaker 1: you have people that go want to play with you
Speaker 1: in in that game right there. You can't play. You
Speaker 1: can't play no games. You gotta be no nonsense because
Speaker 1: if you play games with their shiit, you can lose
Speaker 1: your shirt, maybe even lose your life.
Speaker 4: I mean, because you gotta you know, it's it's still
Speaker 4: motherfuckers out there buying and still motherfucker's out there using.
Speaker 4: So you know it's some niggas still you know, heavy
Speaker 4: off into the game and lucrative.
Speaker 3: You know, some niggas that don't want to be.
Speaker 4: Celebrities and shit and whatever and in social media or whatever. Uh,
Speaker 4: but you gotta, you gotta wonder what's on the mind
Speaker 4: state of well nigga, you know, who still gotta get
Speaker 4: his bread? Like I said, I don't know because I,
Speaker 4: like I say, every day, I try to speak for
Speaker 4: niggas who's still in the struggle, is what I'll say.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, because unfortunately they haven't found
Speaker 4: the way out of the underworld, so to spind And there's
Speaker 4: some niggas who like, fuck this shit it is. You
Speaker 4: know that ain't nothing better. I know me and you
Speaker 4: don't talk about opening up a dispensary. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: we've talked about opening up dispensaries and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: I just think, man, that there are a bunch of
Speaker 4: options right now the where you don't necessarily have to
Speaker 4: go out and take penitentiary chances. Man, I know, for
Speaker 4: a minute, the trucking industry was real good, but now
Speaker 4: it's not like it was. It's not like it was
Speaker 4: back let's say, maybe ten years ago.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. There's a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: involved with that, man. You know, it's a lot of
Speaker 1: price cutting going on with that right now, a lot
Speaker 1: of dudes doing stuff.
Speaker 4: For cheap or definitely definitely shit. You're gonna try to
Speaker 4: beat the next motherfucker. That's I guess that's what happens
Speaker 4: in business. You know what I'm saying. You try to
Speaker 4: stay afloat or on top of some shit for a while,
Speaker 4: but uh, let's face it, the next nigga gonna get
Speaker 4: into it.
Speaker 3: Then another nigga gonna get into.
Speaker 4: It next you like you, like you said, it was
Speaker 4: lucrative and used to be the shit. You know, everybody
Speaker 4: was copping trucks and shipping and all that shit. Next day,
Speaker 4: you know, shit, I know a few homies who then
Speaker 4: came about the neighborhood who you know, got into the
Speaker 4: truck and thing.
Speaker 3: Everything gets saturated at one time.
Speaker 1: Well, what happens is this bro especially with our people,
Speaker 1: if we see something that's lucrative, and I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you the funny thing about it, nobody ever has an ideal.
Speaker 1: All we see sometimes black people, we see everything as
Speaker 1: a get rich quick skin or I'm gonna come up
Speaker 1: off of that if it's podcast and I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: do that because I heard such sex made a bag
Speaker 1: up off of this. It don't work like that, man.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of work to go into this shit. Man,
Speaker 1: I don't think people understand it. It's a lot of
Speaker 1: work and it's not the stuff that pays is not
Speaker 1: actually the stuff that think people pay. A lot of
Speaker 1: people think that the it's all about the video, right
Speaker 1: because they hear about people making millions of dollars on YouTube.
Speaker 1: That ain't necessarily true. Audio pays the most money, right.
Speaker 1: Audio pays the most money by far, because with video,
Speaker 1: unless you're controlling your own destiny kind of so to speak,
Speaker 1: YouTube can cut your water off anytime they want to.
Speaker 1: If they decide that you you know, oh, they're doing
Speaker 1: too much curse. They could to monetize that video. Oh
Speaker 1: it looked like he's smoking a joint. Oh, we go
Speaker 1: to monetize that motherfucker. But with that audio room, they
Speaker 1: pay some pretty good money. Bro, they pay some really,
Speaker 1: you know, it's really good money. Man. And everything that
Speaker 1: make money ain't necessarily easy to attain. And then we
Speaker 1: don't do it. A lot of we don't do enough
Speaker 1: researching this stuff. We got to do your homework when
Speaker 1: you jump into something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sh it's just like you know, we we will,
Speaker 4: we will copy a lot of shit that we see U. Unfortunately,
Speaker 4: you grow up in the hood. You see the big
Speaker 4: time drug dealer. Everybody think that they can sell a sack.
Speaker 4: You got ten niggas on the corner trying to serve
Speaker 4: the one car. The first nigga saw the rap game,
Speaker 4: as you know, nigga, fuck that shit.
Speaker 3: Nigga rapping the nigga.
Speaker 1: I'm a hustle.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do this, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Look how many hustler niggas so to speak, and hood niggas.
Speaker 3: Are rapping now?
Speaker 4: You give me because oh shit, nigga, that's the shit
Speaker 4: you know, or or or they figure out I ain't
Speaker 4: gotta stand on the corner, nigga. I'm gonna go stand
Speaker 4: in the booth and talk some shit. Everybody else doing it.
Speaker 1: I hate to tell them, man, they about probably thirty
Speaker 1: years too late for that shit. Tho.
Speaker 3: Same thing with the podcast game.
Speaker 4: This is about niggas see a few niggas doing this shit,
Speaker 4: and then niggas go, okay, well them niggas doing it,
Speaker 4: and then show and so got it. And then next thing,
Speaker 4: you know, you just start seeing all kinds of niggas
Speaker 4: popping up with little shows. Fuck it, nigga, let me
Speaker 4: give me a microphone in the video camera. Now you see,
Speaker 4: you know, the average ass nigga. Now like, fuck it, everybody, nigga,
Speaker 4: i'ma doing me a podcast in my kitchen.
Speaker 1: And Ship, let me ask you this. And I keep
Speaker 1: trying to remember, Brian, we first started this twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. It's almost twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: Only only only Ship.
Speaker 4: That's you know, it's like everybody can try some shit,
Speaker 4: you know, that's what.
Speaker 1: You got, that's the worthy of it. Yeah, you gotta
Speaker 1: put the work.
Speaker 4: Uh, everybody can try to set you know, everybody can
Speaker 4: try to slang dope. Don't mean you're gonna be a
Speaker 4: successful don't mean you're gonna be Tony Montana. You give me,
Speaker 4: it might be a motherfucker stuck on the block selling
Speaker 4: dimes and doves and ship the rest of your day.
Speaker 1: That's really a question relates to that.
Speaker 5: Like I recently saw a clip of Kanye West.
Speaker 1: On stage with.
Speaker 5: His daughter daughter got Something.
Speaker 1: I was good.
Speaker 5: Actually, I'm looking forward to hear the song. Well, we
Speaker 5: know there's rappers out there that have kids that are rapping,
Speaker 5: and we know do you decide they have no business rapping?
Speaker 5: Are we scared to say that the music is not
Speaker 5: good out of respect to the parent?
Speaker 1: H Hey to answer that one, I'll let you go first.
Speaker 4: Rather I and I don't speak on people's kids.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 4: But just in that sense, you got a lot of
Speaker 4: niggas who are nutswingers, you give me. I'm just keeping real.
Speaker 4: You got a lot of niggas who are untourage affiliated
Speaker 4: or wanna bees or whatever, And a lot of niggas
Speaker 4: don't have the courage or the nuts to say, man,
Speaker 4: that shits. Really, don't you know? I don't think niggas
Speaker 4: are scared to voutvoice their opinions. For what they might,
Speaker 4: you know, or a nigga might not let me backstage
Speaker 4: no more, or a nigga might not, you know, take
Speaker 4: me on tour no more, or a nigga might not
Speaker 4: be my friend and cut me off on Twitter or
Speaker 4: not follow me anymore or do anything. That's the nature
Speaker 4: of what's become and what niggas feel like like they
Speaker 4: can't voice their opinion. Like niggas just it's just it's
Speaker 4: just my opinion from what I'm thinking. And no disrespect
Speaker 4: to your your your kid, your homeboy, your even you
Speaker 4: in the sense you get me. It was a nigga
Speaker 4: who will sit right there with you and knowing God
Speaker 4: damn well.
Speaker 3: That ship is garbage is.
Speaker 4: Hell and sit up there and I'm gonna pump that
Speaker 4: ship a nigga when the nigga go out. What you think,
Speaker 4: my nigga, that's your heart as motherfucker nigga. That's it
Speaker 4: right there. And then you know where throw at home
Speaker 4: as a parent. If my son, you know what's funny
Speaker 4: is my son he had some rap songs. You know,
Speaker 4: he hang out with some little young reference. It's kind
Speaker 4: of popping right right and he's doing you know, his
Speaker 4: football is his thing for sure, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: that's his thing. But he's always rapped on the side
Speaker 4: and did his little thing. So he was telling me
Speaker 4: he had a song, right, but it was scared to
Speaker 4: let me hear because he knows I'm gonna keep it
Speaker 4: all the way one hundred. I'm gonna tell him, man,
Speaker 4: that shit is garbage. You gotta be if you love somebody,
Speaker 4: you have to be trueful.
Speaker 1: Right. Of course he's not a little kid, no more
Speaker 1: to worry you know. You look, he had draw some
Speaker 1: shit to look like scribble scrabble, and you tell him, oh,
Speaker 1: that's cute, and you hanging up on the refrigerator, right,
Speaker 1: I would tell my kids if something was garbage. Not
Speaker 1: The song he played for me actually happened to be decent.
Speaker 1: But I told him. I was just like, man, you
Speaker 1: know what, that's tight man and everything, but it ain't
Speaker 1: no money in this shit. You're making more money doing.
Speaker 4: What you're doing now, you having a kid and having sons.
Speaker 3: This is something mob.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: I've been asked a few times as far as your
Speaker 4: kids or whatever is concerned, or your people whatever. You
Speaker 4: growing up took a different walk of life, so you
Speaker 4: coming up having kids, is it your duty to not
Speaker 4: subject your kids to what you went through? If it's possible, Oh,
Speaker 4: if it's possible. I think we both have tried to
Speaker 4: make our children's life easier. But now I'm gonna tell
Speaker 4: you this now, Okay, did Chris ever or any of
Speaker 4: your sons, did they ever go through a stage to
Speaker 4: where they felt like they wanted to go backwards than
Speaker 4: where you were as far as established as you know,
Speaker 4: I'm a decent man. Now, I'm not selling dope. I'm
Speaker 4: not on the block. Did they go through that situation
Speaker 4: of feeling like I want to be that?
Speaker 1: Though? You know what, now, my sons never went through
Speaker 1: the extreme, especially my oldest son. My oldest son has
Speaker 1: always been squeaky, squeaky clean. Okay, my daughter, she's all
Speaker 1: of my kids have been squeaky clean. But my middle
Speaker 1: son and my daughter they had a tendency to want
Speaker 1: to hang around more of the hood people. And I
Speaker 1: think that's because, you know, when Chrisphers started playing ball,
Speaker 1: I didn't want him playing ball where we live at
Speaker 1: I didn't want him playing If I had to do
Speaker 1: all over again, I'll have take his ass the Orange
Speaker 1: County to play somewhere he wouldn't be hanging out with none
Speaker 1: of them dudes. Not that I don't love them kids.
Speaker 1: I love them kids, right, but they kind of leaned
Speaker 1: a little bit toward the you know, the dudes that
Speaker 1: was banging and doing their thing whatever. Right, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's just that's just who they hung
Speaker 1: out with.
Speaker 4: Of a kid playing in Orange County after he's playing
Speaker 4: in Compton or Paramount exactly.
Speaker 1: And I wanted him and I wanted him around those
Speaker 1: kids because they had an egg to him. I didn't
Speaker 1: want him playing with no wenies. You feel what I mean?
Speaker 1: Because the first year we played, we played in Downey
Speaker 1: Man and when I tell you, man, them kids was
Speaker 1: softest medicated Cotton Man, softest medicated cotton And I said
Speaker 1: this the last year we do this. But me, knowing
Speaker 1: what I know now, I don't think it would have
Speaker 1: made a difference who he would have played. What he
Speaker 1: was probably still turned out to be who he was
Speaker 1: because he was pretty dominant then. He probably would have
Speaker 1: been dominant over there. And you know, come to find out,
Speaker 1: Orange County had some pretty good players. You know, they
Speaker 1: have some really good players, man, And I think you
Speaker 1: have to. I don't think you can hide your kids
Speaker 1: from what's going on out in the streets though, right.
Speaker 1: I think you gotta be very realistic about it. The
Speaker 1: one thing I am glad about, though, is that all
Speaker 1: my kids are prepared and they know how to handle
Speaker 1: theyself in any situation. You feel what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 1: not like, oh my god, they go to the hood
Speaker 1: or whatever, they get scared. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But why do you think privileged kids want to go
Speaker 4: backwards and be.
Speaker 1: They want excitement? Man, they think they're missing something. What
Speaker 1: I've discovered as a parent, the more you hire something
Speaker 1: from your kids, the more they go want to do it.
Speaker 1: Think about it like that. That's way more. It looks
Speaker 1: exciting because you know, you listen to these bullshit ass
Speaker 1: rap songs, and you listen to all this It sounds fun,
Speaker 1: It sounds glamorous until your ass is actually in the
Speaker 1: mix of that shit. Then you be wishing you was
Speaker 1: back in them suburbs.
Speaker 4: It puzzles me the do you think your son ever
Speaker 4: want to fuck around on that wild side?
Speaker 3: I mean I did the same shit. You know.
Speaker 4: I've seen homies whose sons or kids had to basically
Speaker 4: following their footsteps because of the neighborhood cold. You know,
Speaker 4: some kids just do that from day one. Oh my
Speaker 4: dad was from so and so, so I'm automatically just
Speaker 4: started claiming I'm from so and So. I think because
Speaker 4: Karan grew up in a different area, he never was
Speaker 4: subject to going to you know, he didn't have to
Speaker 4: go to those you know, those elementaries and junior highs
Speaker 4: and you know, and like I said, I came from that.
Speaker 4: So it wasn't that it was fine to me because
Speaker 4: that's what I grew up in. But knowing what I
Speaker 4: went through as a kid or a teenager, I don't think
Speaker 4: I wanted to subject a young man to that. You
Speaker 4: get me, knowing the walks of shit that you gotta
Speaker 4: go through growing up in the hood.
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So.
Speaker 4: Karen didn't have to see none of that shit, but
Speaker 4: he knew I participated in the shit. He saw the
Speaker 4: movies and he was a kid who parents who grew
Speaker 4: up in Compton, So he took trips to Compton every
Speaker 4: weekend and he was able to see, Oh, it's nigga's
Speaker 4: gang banging and niggas be shooting and drive buying, and
Speaker 4: you know, he saw the cars passing buying the niggas
Speaker 4: with the crazy looks and the hands signals and shit.
Speaker 4: So I think that made him go, I don't want
Speaker 4: to do that. But you know, as they start growing
Speaker 4: up and they hit they thirteens and fourteens, you know,
Speaker 4: they start growing a little hair on their nuts. So
Speaker 4: I don't think he necessarily starts did claiming like, oh,
Speaker 4: I'm from here, I'm from there, but they start feeling
Speaker 4: like they a little edgy. Or my pops was from Compton,
Speaker 4: and they used to say cuz or you know, so
Speaker 4: you might catch them, you know, in conversations slaying cuz
Speaker 4: every now and then, or blood every now and then
Speaker 4: because they hearing and they thinking that shit is hip,
Speaker 4: but they don't know nothing about it. I remember one
Speaker 4: time I'm driving, I don't know where the fuck I was.
Speaker 4: I was in I was in Corona actually coming from somewhere.
Speaker 4: Finn go to the homie spot, and I see three
Speaker 4: kids walking down the street. Right, so they walking, they
Speaker 4: see him. I'm driving by, so when I passed by,
Speaker 4: they decide they want to hit me up right.
Speaker 3: I thought it was kind of funny.
Speaker 4: So I go to the corner and busterter you on him,
Speaker 4: turn back on him, and pull up in somebody driveway
Speaker 4: and cut him off. And I jump out the car
Speaker 4: and I say where y'all from? And you see one
Speaker 4: of them was finna take off running, but they just
Speaker 4: stood there and they big eye they looking.
Speaker 3: At me, and I'm like, y'all gang bang.
Speaker 4: And one of them was like, oh this and that,
Speaker 4: and I'm saying, what you do play sports? He was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I play basketball, and I go to this high school
Speaker 4: and won't he won't. I said, let me tell y'all something.
Speaker 4: Y'all three black kids, you know whatever. Whatever I said,
Speaker 4: let me tell you something. Don't be doing that shit.
Speaker 4: You fuck w lose your mind, say you fuck around
Speaker 4: and hit up the wrong car, I said, because I'm
Speaker 4: finna tell you in the wrong spot to be thinking
Speaker 4: that you're in a privileged area to where you thinking
Speaker 4: what I'm somebody dad or something that you gonna hit
Speaker 4: me up. I buster you turn on a nigga so quick,
Speaker 4: because you don't want to get into that lifestyle, Like
Speaker 4: I said, some dudes, you know, living in those privileged areas,
Speaker 4: not ever running into those kind of confrontations.
Speaker 1: You probably say them little nigga's life.
Speaker 4: You'd have been anywhere anyway. It would have been anywhere
Speaker 4: inner city. You probably would have got shot at, jumped,
Speaker 4: beat up, anything.
Speaker 3: And this took a car from you exactly.
Speaker 4: So I felt it was my I felt it was
Speaker 4: my duty to, uh, let me try to stray you
Speaker 4: away from that lifestyle you thinking you want to get into,
Speaker 4: because let me tell you.
Speaker 1: Think because it ain't know all of this cracked up to.
Speaker 4: Be, because we done pulled up on niggas in certain
Speaker 4: situations and it ain't been no get out and conversate
Speaker 4: with a motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Oh no, you could lose your life. You could lose
Speaker 1: your life. You know what, man, I've always taught my
Speaker 1: kids this, Like I've told my son, you give more
Speaker 1: opportunities being a nice, square, straight laced motherfucker than you
Speaker 1: ever would be in the hood. Ass nigga like lead
Speaker 1: as the lone. That shit is for the birds. Fuck
Speaker 1: would a motherfucker think. I've learned as I've got older,
Speaker 1: man to really become nice and even tempered to where
Speaker 1: even if somebody says something to me, man, as long
Speaker 1: as they not putting their hands on me because with
Speaker 1: a lot of these situations, people this all this online
Speaker 1: shit is an ect. Don't nobody really want no smoke.
Speaker 4: As far as the online shit go, right, I mean,
Speaker 4: you see, you see a lot of it, and then
Speaker 4: you see, like you said, a lot of motherfuckers online
Speaker 4: picking shoes. So I think a lot of the shit
Speaker 4: got to do with just this new era of being
Speaker 4: a celebrity or a star or whatever. It's just a
Speaker 4: different walk of life from what I'm used to. That's
Speaker 4: why I guess, you know, the podcasting game and all
Speaker 4: that was kind of slow to me in the beginning, because.
Speaker 3: I'm a type of nigga who would.
Speaker 4: Walk into the club and put my back against the
Speaker 4: wall and not say shit to niggas and just stand
Speaker 4: there all night and just watch and how motherfuckers be
Speaker 4: all just I've always been like that, from the from
Speaker 4: the backyard neighborhood party days to just it was a
Speaker 4: certain cold niggas didn't do when niggas used to ask me,
Speaker 4: you know why you never got into other movies and
Speaker 4: why you didn't do this, because I used to tell
Speaker 4: niggas because I ain't no joke. I don't I'm not
Speaker 4: like I grew up like real life shit, niggas shooting
Speaker 4: at you and you know, niggas trying to sell dope
Speaker 4: to survive, and you know, so.
Speaker 3: I really didn't get into.
Speaker 4: That's why when I tell niggas I don't want to
Speaker 4: be recognized as some motherfucking rap legend nigga or some
Speaker 4: shit like that, is because I hard life really existed,
Speaker 4: you feel me, and just to be able to not
Speaker 4: you know, some of the homies died, some of my
Speaker 4: niggas in prison, you know, twenty thirty years. It's a
Speaker 4: hard life to come through and to see how this
Speaker 4: shit has flipped. Like I said, everybody is celebrities and stars,
Speaker 4: and you know, gangster niggas want to be you know,
Speaker 4: you know, so talkative and you know, interviews and all
Speaker 4: this other shit. It's just crazy, but it's good when
Speaker 4: you're in a place to where you just want motherfuckers
Speaker 4: to understand, you know, the streets, and like I said,
Speaker 4: I did come from the music side, so I do
Speaker 4: know a little bit about.
Speaker 3: Hip hop and music and all that shit.
Speaker 4: But it's crazy how just you know, regular mother fuck
Speaker 4: us today want to be something else than just being
Speaker 4: a normal motherfucker.
Speaker 1: You know what I don't understand, man, the people who
Speaker 1: have made it alreal. Like I saw Chris Brown the
Speaker 1: other day say it, I'm a piru.
Speaker 3: Yeah I saw that too, and I was.
Speaker 1: Just really thinking. I said, no, he go, a young
Speaker 1: man who's had the opportunity to make millions of dollars
Speaker 1: is fascinating, seen the whole world, and you want to
Speaker 1: go backwards into that shit. And I'm gonna tell you now,
Speaker 1: don't None of the motherfuckers give a fuck about you.
Speaker 1: They there for what they can receive from you. It's
Speaker 1: crazy to me, though, dog, I don't understand that shit.
Speaker 1: And to each his own shout out to Chris Brown.
Speaker 1: He had grown ass, man, he could do what everything? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know it's but and this ain't me dissing them,
Speaker 1: but it's just like, man, somebody should have kept it
Speaker 1: real with him and told him, like, man, what are
Speaker 1: you doing? You go fuck up your money? Like look
Speaker 1: at Diddy. All this shit that he's went through is
Speaker 1: costing miss to deal with Hulu. He had a situation
Speaker 1: with Hulu. He was doing, fucked it up. That's height
Speaker 1: with all the shit we got going on. Dog, I
Speaker 1: am too. We are both too valuable to get caught
Speaker 1: up in any shit. We got movies and shit that
Speaker 1: were doing this year. Dog Man, we got different opportunities
Speaker 1: we have that's gonna really elevate us and put us
Speaker 1: over for the next fifteen to twenty thirty years, whatever
Speaker 1: much time we got left on this planet. That's gonna
Speaker 1: pretty much set us up for that time. Right. I'm
Speaker 1: not going out fucking my shit up for nobody. Dog.
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck hot how any of these
Speaker 1: niggas out here perceived me to be run up. If
Speaker 1: you want to find out the hard way, But I
Speaker 1: don't want to get involved none of that shit.
Speaker 3: Dog.
Speaker 1: I want the easy life.
Speaker 3: Dog.
Speaker 1: I got plans on when I started having grandkids, Dog,
Speaker 1: to raise my grandchildren and live a simple life. Dog.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be involved none of that bullshit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I'm like, for what a motherfucker and been
Speaker 4: through and last year, I'm not the only person a
Speaker 4: lot of motherfuckers who done walk the life I've walked.
Speaker 4: You know, single moms or you know whatever, growing up
Speaker 4: in the hood and you know, struggling to make ends meet,
Speaker 4: and you know, trying to figure out, you know, what
Speaker 4: your life is gonna be. Like I said, I was
Speaker 4: at a point like I don't know shit slang dope
Speaker 4: and claiming the hood was was.
Speaker 3: Was was everything.
Speaker 4: But then, as you, like you said, as you start
Speaker 4: building and separating yourself from certain situations, you don't forget
Speaker 4: where you come from.
Speaker 3: But you don't ever want.
Speaker 4: Anybody in your position or your family or people you know,
Speaker 4: to have to go through bullshit.
Speaker 3: I'm at a.
Speaker 4: Point to where I don't seen enhing went through enough.
Speaker 4: I don't need a nigga running up on me for
Speaker 4: no bullshit.
Speaker 1: And that's yeah, for real.
Speaker 4: Because of of some business bullshit at that because I
Speaker 4: try my best not to get in the street scenarios
Speaker 4: with with with any nigga, especially at this age.
Speaker 1: You know, at this juncture, man, I'm just not interested.
Speaker 4: There's gonna there's gonna be niggas that don't like you.
Speaker 4: I get it. There's gonna be motherfucking critics. I get it.
Speaker 4: Certain people ain't gonna like what I've done. Uh, from
Speaker 4: from the first record to listening to a nigga on
Speaker 4: the podcast, you feel me, And just like I tell,
Speaker 4: like I say, you got that right, you'll get me.
Speaker 4: But like long as long as your opinion is your opinion,
Speaker 4: and it don't go no further than that.
Speaker 3: I'm fine with it. You could be a nigga.
Speaker 4: Standing right across from me and go, Nigga, I don't
Speaker 4: like your ship, and I'll be like, that's cool as
Speaker 4: long as we don't have an issue, you know. So
Speaker 4: you try to uh, I think be because of the situation,
Speaker 4: like I said, growing up in at this day and age,
Speaker 4: you don't want to be in a position where you
Speaker 4: got beef with niggas or you're trying to live life backwards.
Speaker 4: I don't know if niggas who want to you know,
Speaker 4: claim or or affiliate themselves because I can't talk because
Speaker 4: I'm from a neighborhood and claimed and I still talk
Speaker 4: to niggas from my neighborhood and you know, conversate and
Speaker 4: you know, the homies just had a little gathering, you know,
Speaker 4: not a week or two ago, trying to change the
Speaker 4: aspect of what it used to be for niggas in
Speaker 4: the neighborhood now that you have grown up and see
Speaker 4: a different light. So niggas do you know, come out
Speaker 4: of certain situations for positive But there's some niggas who
Speaker 4: just don't see the light.
Speaker 3: Like I said, Yeah, you know what, bro, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: tell you like this.
Speaker 1: To me, you don't hit the lottery twice, I think
Speaker 1: me and you have hit the lottery twice in two
Speaker 1: businesses to where the average motherfucker just don't make no
Speaker 1: money in it. And that's you know, hip hop and
Speaker 1: it's podcasting shit.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: I didn't make millions of dollars from the music industry,
Speaker 1: but I provided a good life for my family. I
Speaker 1: was able to send my oldest son to college. I
Speaker 1: was able to buy a home. I was able to
Speaker 1: do some pretty cool stuff. Right. I look at it now, man,
Speaker 1: and you know, pretty much we're making a lot of
Speaker 1: money just to sit up here and talk every week, right, right,
Speaker 1: you know you think about that. That's a blessing. Why
Speaker 1: we go out there and fuck that off for anybody?
Speaker 1: Dog that would be like that would be dumb. It
Speaker 1: would just be dumb. Right. It's like I tell my
Speaker 1: son now, right, I say, Man, you know you're getting
Speaker 1: played money to play football. Man, don't ever fuck that
Speaker 1: off for nobody. Man, It's just it's not worth it. Right.
Speaker 1: And I think as black men, people expect us always
Speaker 1: to come with ignorant angle man, Ain't nothing wrong with maturing, Dog,
Speaker 1: Ain't nothing wrong with maturing. Ain't nothing wrong with getting
Speaker 1: old and just being a regular dude. Because if you
Speaker 1: look at any other race of people, right, if you
Speaker 1: look at the if you look at everybody from Asians
Speaker 1: to Mexican dudes, when they getting their fifties, dog, and
Speaker 1: they even their thirties, you don't see them doing the
Speaker 1: stuff that we do. No, not as a people, you
Speaker 1: just don't see them doing that. They carry themselves as adults. Right.
Speaker 1: When I talk to some of my friends about this podcast,
Speaker 1: shit Dog, that's just regular people. They be looking at
Speaker 1: me like are you serious? And I say, yeah, very serious.
Speaker 1: And I think it's a thing man, where people want
Speaker 1: to I think we still living man. We be kind
Speaker 1: of almost stuck in the PA. Yes, I think sometimes
Speaker 1: man hip hop culture doesn't allow people to grow up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. You feel what I'm saying. Like, if you
Speaker 1: look at like where other people have evolved into. Man,
Speaker 1: they start taking trips with their families. They're not out
Speaker 1: there looking for no smoke. They'll laugh if somebody somebody
Speaker 1: try to get in a fight with them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's just a new era of It's
Speaker 4: the new era of the of the hip hop beefing,
Speaker 4: if you want to say, so to speak, I think
Speaker 4: a lot of our beef stemmed from, you know, back
Speaker 4: in my days, a lot of beef stemmed from gang affiliation,
Speaker 4: being from different neighborhoods.
Speaker 1: You know. You know.
Speaker 3: I never beef with niggas across coast or.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I didn't, I was.
Speaker 4: I never like dropped a record, didn't had a nigga
Speaker 4: in Florida dissing me because I dropped the record, you know,
Speaker 4: or it seems like we got a lot of that,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So I just I just
Speaker 4: just dealt with it differently than than what you see nowadays.
Speaker 4: And I think because of that, it gives you an
Speaker 4: instant uh instant popularity, you know, when when you choose
Speaker 4: that narrative, Like I said, a lot of a lot
Speaker 4: of our beef stemmed from, oh, you you a crip
Speaker 4: or you a blood, or you from this hood or
Speaker 4: you from that hood. Weeding beef because of Oh it's
Speaker 4: gonna make the record more popular.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's how it is, though, But look at this,
Speaker 1: think about the dude, we had our show Crip Mac. Right,
Speaker 1: Crip Mac could have made a lot of money. Dude.
Speaker 1: He had a very polar He's a very polarizing young man.
Speaker 1: You know, no, regardless of what you want to say
Speaker 1: about him. You know a lot of people say why
Speaker 1: you have him on the show, But then when they
Speaker 1: actually watched the show, they thought it was really entertaining, right,
Speaker 1: Oh definitely. You know, even mac ten hit me up
Speaker 1: and said, man, what's up? Would that krypt macdu.
Speaker 4: I've had a lot Yeah, a few of my homies
Speaker 4: was like, why did y'all have that nigga on the show?
Speaker 4: And then they watched the episode and you know, watched
Speaker 4: him further beyond, and I've had the same niggas like, Man,
Speaker 4: that motherfucking nigga right there. Man, that nigga is like
Speaker 4: like the content he has.
Speaker 1: He could have made a lot of money for himself. Man,
Speaker 1: he could have really took that and elevated.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: But now you see evidently the Fast took his shorty.
Speaker 1: The Fast came and picked him up. He had a switcher.
Speaker 1: He had a gun with a switcher on it. Man.
Speaker 1: You know he's doing every when you talking about fed time, man,
Speaker 1: that's not like getting five years on some other shit
Speaker 1: though you doing every bit of that time, and the
Speaker 1: way media is right now, wish him nothing but the best,
Speaker 1: but those same opportunities may not be there for him.
Speaker 4: Like I said, Unfortunately, like you said, you never know
Speaker 4: who is trying to contribute to the downfall.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 4: I heard it was some old ship that somebody said that,
Speaker 4: oh yeah, this nigga's riding or whatever, whatever the case
Speaker 4: may be. You gotta watch who you around, and who
Speaker 4: your business is around, and who you associate with, because
Speaker 4: it'll be a person right next to you who's looking
Speaker 4: for your downfall, and it may be might they be
Speaker 4: jealous or whatever. You know, whatever the case may be,
Speaker 4: you gotta you gotta watch your surroundings when you naive
Speaker 4: to this game right here, because you know you can
Speaker 4: become you can become just as fast and popular with
Speaker 4: this new media content shit.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 3: Any character can blow up at any given time.
Speaker 1: And this is what they said defending Trevor Hurd. Knowing
Speaker 1: this c MAC knowingly possessed ammunition, namely ten rounds of
Speaker 1: normal precision AB nine millimeters lugar ammunition contained in his
Speaker 1: semi automatic handgun bearing no serial number commonly referred to
Speaker 1: as a ghost gun each shen and affecting interstate commerce.
Speaker 1: You know, the thing is California has some of the
Speaker 1: strictest gun laws in the country. We then this dude
Speaker 1: can do fifteen years, man, and you know he got
Speaker 1: a baby on the way.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: It's like somebody asked me. You know, the first thing
Speaker 1: people want to say is oh, stupid ass nigga to me,
Speaker 1: the people around him kind of let him down. All
Speaker 1: of these people that he heaven Hall Hall, and you
Speaker 1: know kind of like took advantage of him in a sense, right,
Speaker 1: took advantage of this young man in the sense. That's
Speaker 1: why if you notice when we had him on the show,
Speaker 1: we didn't do no clown with him. We wanted to
Speaker 1: really talk to that young brother and see what was
Speaker 1: going on with him. Right, all of these people, man,
Speaker 1: that had them on their platforms every week, I wonder
Speaker 1: who actually set him down? Why would they let him leave?
Speaker 1: Because see, if him be in the position he was in,
Speaker 1: he shouldn't have been riding around with no pistol.
Speaker 4: I mean, I get it because even though like I
Speaker 4: said today, it's about content and social media and followers
Speaker 4: and numbers, he's still putting himself in a position of
Speaker 4: the streets. You're getting me, you cripping, and you claim
Speaker 4: in a set, and let's just face it.
Speaker 3: You know, today.
Speaker 4: Some people record nice the aspect of what you're doing,
Speaker 4: but then there's some motherfuckers who don't give a fuck.
Speaker 4: And you know, so when you're playing that both sides
Speaker 4: of the fence, he's probably feeling like, I gotta carry
Speaker 4: your heat. I'd be dumb not to carry your heat
Speaker 4: because even though you know, I'm not trying to be.
Speaker 3: As as fucking.
Speaker 4: Explicit to motherfuckers and I'm not trying to be just
Speaker 4: fuck you nigga all day, it's some niggas who will
Speaker 4: take that you give me. Like one of the homies
Speaker 4: was telling me or somebody gonna smoke cuz you feel
Speaker 4: me because of where they still living and they feeling like, yeah,
Speaker 4: but he's still cripping and wearing blue rind And.
Speaker 1: There's the thing about it, though, let's keep it real.
Speaker 1: He was a cool dude, but now he runs is
Speaker 1: the risk of getting folded into even a bigger conspiracy,
Speaker 1: right because you got the gang enhancements, yeah, and you
Speaker 1: have all this man, I'm gonna be real with you.
Speaker 1: I feel like in a lot of aspects, yeah, Crip
Speaker 1: Mac is very much a grown man and accountable for
Speaker 1: his own actions. But I felt like a lot of
Speaker 1: people failed this kid man, really failed him. Because if
Speaker 1: you really got love for somebody, how many times have
Speaker 1: you talked me out of doing dumb shit? And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do what it's even killed? Yeah, And and like
Speaker 1: you said, unfortunately that somebody didn't you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know what they did. You know, who was ever supposed
Speaker 1: to be the manager or whoever felt like let's run
Speaker 1: with this shit. You still first of all, you a nigga,
Speaker 1: still under fucking charges and shit like he was on probation. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, let me get his disclaimer real quick. I
Speaker 1: don't know China Mac, that was his manager. For all
Speaker 1: I know, Synag probably talked to him to he was
Speaker 1: blue in the face about what he was, you know,
Speaker 1: what he should be doing and what he shouldn't be doing.
Speaker 1: But this kid man, because I know he wanted to
Speaker 1: make money right right, he fucked the bag up though, Dude.
Speaker 1: I had you know how many people I had hit
Speaker 1: me up that wanted to put him in movies? And
Speaker 1: everything like that.
Speaker 4: Do I think, like I said, when you when you
Speaker 4: put yourself in this position, it's only it's only gonna
Speaker 4: take you so far as as doing that, right. I
Speaker 4: can't be walking around, you know, crip rags around my
Speaker 4: head every day, doing my videos, doing my rap songs,
Speaker 4: going to shows and shit, you know, super banged out,
Speaker 4: not thinking that something's gonna get tested one once or twice. Now,
Speaker 4: if I'm still living that way, because that's the angle
Speaker 4: I want to take with my shit and my celebrity, right,
Speaker 4: I gotta be a fool to not think I'm gonna
Speaker 4: not get into it with motherfuckers.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: Everybody's not a podcast or a celebrity or entertainer type
Speaker 4: of motherfucker. It's some real cripping blood niggas who still
Speaker 4: walk Now. Do I think because of the angle I'm
Speaker 4: coming as a fucking content creator celebrity, that every blood
Speaker 4: or crip is gonna give me a pass. It's not
Speaker 4: gonna happen like that. Somebody gonna probably try to test me.
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna carry some heat.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what they said. They said the rappists.
Speaker 1: Worth has estimated to be around a million dollars now
Speaker 1: me and you both knowing, this ain't coming from a
Speaker 1: place that Hey, this is more of me coming from
Speaker 1: a place of somebody that knows he could have potentially
Speaker 1: made a million dollars but he didn't get none of
Speaker 1: that money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna count a niggas motherfucker.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not counting it. But but yeah, he
Speaker 1: was on a lot of other people's platforms where they
Speaker 1: probably make you know him, you know, And I don't
Speaker 1: know that, Like you said, I don't know the logistics.
Speaker 1: I'm just speaking from a you know, how my nigga
Speaker 1: come down here, I'll slide you a thousand or two,
Speaker 1: give me an interview, and then they go running with it.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure because it wasn't like my nigga had
Speaker 1: the crypt Mac show.
Speaker 3: You feel me, And that's.
Speaker 1: What I told him he needed to do. I said, dude,
Speaker 1: you need to make your own shit, dude.
Speaker 4: And that he could have been set up somewhere like
Speaker 4: you know, my own show, and gang of motherfuckers would
Speaker 4: have went through us to be a presence on that ship.
Speaker 1: I had a lot of big people that hit me up.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about people that got not the riot that
Speaker 1: you think wouldn't fuck with him. There was like, Man,
Speaker 1: I want to meet.
Speaker 4: This dude because he was He's a He was a
Speaker 4: person that you looked at even though you know nigga,
Speaker 4: some of these nigga nigga like me who you know
Speaker 4: was was was claiming you know, gang banging and cripping
Speaker 4: and all that to to the people in this world,
Speaker 4: the cameras and wuti wo oh. That motherfucker was a
Speaker 4: gold mine. He was a gold mine. And I'm I
Speaker 4: can put this nigga in a movie. I could put
Speaker 4: this nigga in a comedy skit. I could put this
Speaker 4: nigga playing like the crazy crip nigga or the gang
Speaker 4: bang Uh. You could see the potential of what motherfuckers
Speaker 4: on the other side had. But like you said, somebody
Speaker 4: didn't like, Hey, my nigga, why you care?
Speaker 3: Ain't you on probation? Why you care?
Speaker 1: The man, this dude got people imitating him and everything else, dude,
Speaker 1: And it's like, man, you know what though, Man, this
Speaker 1: is the thing man where people have to realize anything
Speaker 1: that you do in this space, man, you are eventually
Speaker 1: going to have to deal with it in the real world,
Speaker 1: because guess what, ain't none of this shit online real.
Speaker 1: I don't live online. I live in the real world, right,
Speaker 1: So I've always lived from the space that anything I
Speaker 1: do on here, I'm going to be held accounted before
Speaker 1: it in the real world. Right. Like you see, Charleston
Speaker 1: White just had a comedy show. Right, it's some cats.
Speaker 1: You know, some cats jumped on him. I don't think
Speaker 1: they did too much damage, but I think that was
Speaker 1: probably the them dudes gave everybody else the blueprint. Because
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, dudes out here is notorious for
Speaker 1: booking people for shows. You feel what I'm saying. New
Speaker 1: dudes that go out and spend thirty forty thousand dollars
Speaker 1: just to get a motherfucker out there. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: you don't heard about some of that shit happening. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, motherfucker's getting booked for shows and getting just
Speaker 1: you know, shit happened, dog gone. You know you've had that. Man,
Speaker 1: It's getting real. It's gonna start getting real, real dangerous
Speaker 1: out there for a lot of people. Man, because see
Speaker 1: he didn't get hurt, thank god. You know this one
Speaker 1: just go around.
Speaker 4: But I think that niggas should you know, whatever your
Speaker 4: angle want to be, because let's just face it, it's
Speaker 4: all about you know, content, social media, popularity, numbers, analytics,
Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it. A motherfucker found out,
Speaker 4: like shit, I could do this shit and I'm gonna
Speaker 4: be just you get me. I could be the world's
Speaker 4: most hated motherfucker and it's gonna it don't matter. Man,
Speaker 4: Niggas got to learn this motherfucking entertainment game and how
Speaker 4: this shit worked today.
Speaker 3: You get me. It's always been like that. You get me.
Speaker 4: You've always had a hero and you've always had a
Speaker 4: villain in a movie.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of motherfuckers like the villain.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of motherfucker like the villain in movies.
Speaker 4: What a hero always got the fucking win. You give me,
Speaker 4: that's unrealistic. So it's some niggas who cheer for the
Speaker 4: villain and some niggas who play that role out. Like
Speaker 4: I said, what it's gonna cost you, who knows, But
Speaker 4: if it's gonna if it's gonna get you another check
Speaker 4: or another million followers, or people just curious to see
Speaker 4: what the fuck that's what it's gonna do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and then you got the shit. Man,
Speaker 1: it's a whole bunch of wild shit going on. Man.
Speaker 1: You got Joe Butten and Cameron they beefing right now,
Speaker 1: man over some shit because you know, Melissa Forred said
Speaker 1: the Cameron has an underage prostitute the wrong the time
Speaker 1: of his omitted group six sessions with Mace. You know,
Speaker 1: cam denies it. It's just a whole bunch of shit
Speaker 1: going on. And he talked about hitting no girl with
Speaker 1: a defamation loss them losses is very real. Man. You
Speaker 1: just can't go around saying what you want to about
Speaker 1: a motherfucker dog, especially if this shit ain't true or
Speaker 1: you don't know what to be fat.
Speaker 4: I mean when it's serious shit like that. Basically you
Speaker 4: saying I raped somebody. You know, so I can understand,
Speaker 4: you know, let you because some motherfuckers just gonna say
Speaker 4: what they want to say, right, But when you are
Speaker 4: fucking with somebody's livelihood and and somebody's I guess you know,
Speaker 4: credibility as far as who they are. You can call
Speaker 4: a nigga a punk, or a nigga can call a
Speaker 4: female bitch or whatever, or but when niggas get to
Speaker 4: the point to where they start trying to just really like,
Speaker 4: you know, you're trying to undermine who the fuck I
Speaker 4: am and and and think of I would be a
Speaker 4: low class motherfucker. But hey, y'all watch out because it's
Speaker 4: some motherfucking crazy motherfuckers out there and sometimes a check
Speaker 4: booking popularity and make you do motherfucking shit that you
Speaker 4: know you might think is you have privilege too.
Speaker 1: M You know, I'm not gonna getting it with him
Speaker 1: and Joe got going on, man, because all of this
Speaker 1: shit is crazy. Man. At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: motherfuckers need to just mind their own motherfucking business.
Speaker 3: Though, Man, I.
Speaker 1: See your boy the Warriors, don't. Finally suspect suspended your
Speaker 1: boy Draymond green Man And definitely yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 1: I saw the little my nigga. My nigga right there
Speaker 1: is on some real a dog. I don't know, I said, who,
Speaker 1: I don't know what niggas be thinking. You get me,
Speaker 1: I don't know what my nigga was thinking. He tried
Speaker 1: to he tried to fake swing on the nigga and
Speaker 1: connect it. I don't know what the fuck you get
Speaker 1: me us it.
Speaker 4: Was basketball you know, niggas be tugging and niggas be
Speaker 4: but that nigga turned around and straight fired on the nigga.
Speaker 3: I don't get he tried to pull it like he
Speaker 3: tried to pull it.
Speaker 4: Like, I'm not gonna just just ball my fist up
Speaker 4: and sock you square off in the jaw. But I'm
Speaker 4: finna connect to where the butter my wrist or whatever. Nigga,
Speaker 4: I'm fit to fire on you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tramia Green, Man is hood and the motherfucker those
Speaker 1: dog And I just don't understand, man, my man is
Speaker 1: making all this paper dog? Why is he so angry? Man?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Man. If I was making the money
Speaker 1: you brother be making, man, I wouldn't have.
Speaker 4: An said like, why are you so angry? You playing
Speaker 4: the sport you love. Not a poor ass, you know,
Speaker 4: growing up in the projects, underprivilege, you know, going through
Speaker 4: financial stresses. You know you out here doing something like
Speaker 4: probably a billion motherfuckers wish they could be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dremond Green probably Man, how much you think he's
Speaker 1: making the game? Now, why.
Speaker 4: What do you want to show a nigga that you
Speaker 4: can fire on the motherfucker Like, oh, nigga, I'm what
Speaker 4: I'm I'm I'm tough. I can you know he's been
Speaker 4: suspended a gag of times, man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, man, they kind of getting tired of him. Man,
Speaker 1: It's just like, man, you know.
Speaker 4: What, what do you be thinking in that situation?
Speaker 1: If I just think, man, you.
Speaker 4: Know, like, I'm trying to show niggas that I'm not
Speaker 4: no punk and I'm out with the bullshit.
Speaker 1: You know what? Man? Yeah, he said he's trying to
Speaker 1: sell a file.
Speaker 3: Hum.
Speaker 1: You know what the thing is, though, what these niggas
Speaker 1: would never get though. I'm gonna tell all you all,
Speaker 1: young football players, y'all, young basketball players, professional athletes, whoever,
Speaker 1: you would never be bigger than the game. They would
Speaker 1: have ice Cube, said the realist shit. Ever, in the
Speaker 1: rap song, he said they would have a new nigga
Speaker 1: next year. You would never be bigger than the game.
Speaker 1: I don't care how good of a basketball player you is.
Speaker 1: I don't care how good of a football player you are.
Speaker 1: If you go on these people's sports fucking up and
Speaker 1: fucking up the image of the game and the purity
Speaker 1: of the game, they gonna get rid of your ass. Though.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta you gotta watch out nowadays, man. Like
Speaker 4: I said, people ain't gonna tolerate a lot of shit,
Speaker 4: especially when you're getting paid so much money and in
Speaker 4: a position of uh, you know this. Motherfuckers who look
Speaker 4: up to you supposed to represent yourself in a different
Speaker 4: light because you're not in that position.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you what. The NFL and NBA,
Speaker 1: they biggest thing is them shields. You are representing the league.
Speaker 1: If you out there doing crazy a not your ship, boy,
Speaker 1: they are going to get rid of your ass. I
Speaker 1: don't know if people think they bigger than the game now, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, man, but they would
Speaker 1: have knocked the fuck off. They would have knocked the
Speaker 1: fuck off. Man. You know what, I don't think they
Speaker 1: did stuff just I don't man, y'all get Lebron. Just
Speaker 1: everybody be on my boy lebron'say. They think they did
Speaker 1: that just for him to award him some I don't
Speaker 1: think so. I don't think Lebron need that, man. Lebron
Speaker 1: is one of the greatest players to ever touch a
Speaker 1: basketball court. I don't think he need no type of
Speaker 1: little pubic victories. Man, to make yourself feel good. I
Speaker 1: don't even know what this ship is about. Honestly, don't
Speaker 1: what is the ND season tournament? What the fuck is that?
Speaker 1: Some shit they just came up with, they just made
Speaker 1: up with. I don't know what they're trying to. What
Speaker 1: they're saying, what basketball's losing its popularity, So what we
Speaker 1: gotta come up with some shit to where people will,
Speaker 1: you know, oh, let's have an ND season tournament, like okay, whatever,
Speaker 1: you get me, what like the colleges do, We're gonna
Speaker 1: have n season tournaments and that to keep people focused on,
Speaker 1: you know, in the basketball and whatever. Because a lot
Speaker 1: of niggas suck right now, and when it comes to
Speaker 1: I guess who's looked upon as the champion. You know,
Speaker 1: nobody was really wanting Denver to win the NBA championship,
Speaker 1: but they did. They smoked niggas. But that's probably not
Speaker 1: in the popularity aspect. I wonder sometimes, man, because Denver
Speaker 1: is not exactly the most populist market in the world.
Speaker 3: And that's what I'm saying. If you're the NBA, letsrespect
Speaker 3: the Denver.
Speaker 4: If you're the NBA with with the bottom line and
Speaker 4: fans and TV ship and all that, Denver's probably not
Speaker 4: your hottest market as far as especially if as far
Speaker 4: as La or New.
Speaker 3: York or New York or whatever, or Miami.
Speaker 1: You know, cause you think about it, when Cleveland wanted
Speaker 1: that one year. Cleveland ain't exactly the most populan market
Speaker 1: in the world, but they had Lebron James exactly. They
Speaker 1: had Lebron.
Speaker 3: You know what.
Speaker 1: You know, Lebron was a worldwide phenomena.
Speaker 4: So you know, let's create this nd season tournament to uh,
Speaker 4: you know, have somebody else be a champion in the
Speaker 4: end season and that'll focus on and look, you know
Speaker 4: it was the Lakers, so you know that that gets
Speaker 4: your that gets your bottom line and your numbers up.
Speaker 1: As far as that makes sense. Now, they may have
Speaker 1: done that for the ratings because you know, so in California,
Speaker 1: the number two market in the world. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, It just makes sense if you want to
Speaker 1: increase your bottom line, h for sure, if you want
Speaker 1: to increase your bottom line something. Man, I don't know though. Man,
Speaker 1: we got a new year coming up, Man, twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four is almost here. Man, Yeah, we're at the end
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 4: So you know, shout out to all the people you
Speaker 4: know who's been rolling with us since the you know,
Speaker 4: since the changes and seems that we you know, we
Speaker 4: are meeting people's expectations.
Speaker 3: Of what of what the show was and what it.
Speaker 4: Is now and crazy, right, man, We do want to
Speaker 4: not you know, we never consider ourselves Hollywood.
Speaker 3: We feel like we are.
Speaker 4: Some regular niggas who are in tune with you know,
Speaker 4: having come from the streets and took that walk of
Speaker 4: life and being able to change our aspects of who
Speaker 4: we were is why we can able to bring you
Speaker 4: the Gangster Chronicles and speak from both sides of the
Speaker 4: perspective because we didn't, Like I said, we've done both
Speaker 4: being affiliated with the streets, knowing a lot of shit.
Speaker 4: Our gang banged a neighborhood, all.
Speaker 1: Of that shit.
Speaker 4: So music influenced by gangster shit and being in the
Speaker 4: streets and just being around the aspect of hip hop
Speaker 4: and the streets and dope and and just being a
Speaker 4: black motherfucker growing up in the hood. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So just keep riding with us, man. We're
Speaker 4: gonna try to bring y'all what we bring and keep
Speaker 4: the show going for as long as we can go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to do something. I want to do something, man,
Speaker 1: for the end of the year, I'm almost thinking about
Speaker 1: like just going back over the history of the show
Speaker 1: with some of this ship. I just don't want to
Speaker 1: revisit no more.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. You feel what I'm saying. It's like
Speaker 1: that ship was what it was, then.
Speaker 4: Recaps and and go from where we was then to
Speaker 4: where we was to where we are now. But you know,
Speaker 4: a lot of that comes with a lot of bumps
Speaker 4: in the road and.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, a lot of trauma. Man.
Speaker 4: You know, might feel uh mentioning, you know, speaking or
Speaker 4: showing aspects of what it was might cause conflict, and
Speaker 4: you might get a couple of lawsuits and a couple
Speaker 4: of a couple of lawsuits and a couple of defamation
Speaker 4: of character fucking lawsuits, and ship.
Speaker 1: You don't get no more.
Speaker 4: Try to stay quiet, and you don't try to disrespect
Speaker 4: you know, you know, try to keep it cool and
Speaker 4: and and on the aspect of the show you feel so, uh,
Speaker 4: we'll try to uh, we will try to keep our
Speaker 4: shit solid is straight. We will not be doing that,
Speaker 4: you know, we all keep our shit solid is straight.
Speaker 4: Y'all keep rolling with us, and you know, let's get
Speaker 4: cracking with twenty four hell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he before you before we go, Man, you know
Speaker 1: what I want to ask you something. Man, We're talking
Speaker 1: about doing this documentary next year me, Glasses, we have
Speaker 1: you involved. It's like the history of West Coast rap,
Speaker 1: right mm hm. And you know, And I was telling
Speaker 1: g I said, we can't do it without mentioning the
Speaker 1: Bay area, right, And so I hit too Short up,
Speaker 1: I text Short and I said Short. Because I was
Speaker 1: telling Glasses, I said, man, Short might be one of
Speaker 1: the first popping rappers from out this motherfucker period, you know,
Speaker 1: as a dude that's originally from la but came up
Speaker 1: in the Bay, you know, moved it to the Bay
Speaker 1: during his teenage years. Short been selling records for a
Speaker 1: long motherfucking time. Dog, Him and Nice Teeth might be
Speaker 1: the two OG's out here. Oh definitely him and Nice
Speaker 1: Tea because they both start. Short started around nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: and he said by nineteen eighty two he was had
Speaker 1: a lot of notoriety around the Bay. And I thought
Speaker 1: about it, I said, Man, for motherfucking to be rapping
Speaker 1: from nineteen eighty and you gotta still say Shortest still relevant?
Speaker 4: Oh definitely, I mean too Shortest. You know there are
Speaker 4: artists out here who's been around from the inception and
Speaker 4: still are relevant, Still can go on tour. You still banging,
Speaker 4: they shit in your car, They're still you know, cranking
Speaker 4: on the radio. So it's fortunate that you can be
Speaker 4: one of those pioneers, man, and still get respect and appreciated.
Speaker 3: Some of us can still do that.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, you know, it's just a whole cold thing,
Speaker 1: cold game. Man, shut out to too short man, have
Speaker 1: too Short on again. Man, I think right, have a
Speaker 1: conversation with him about that, man, because the motherfucker you
Speaker 1: gotta think about a dog. He been a rapper since
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty and this twenty twenty four come up, and
Speaker 1: he's still he's still one of them type of brothers
Speaker 1: that can fuck around and drop a record and have
Speaker 1: a cracking Oh definitely think about a dog that nigga
Speaker 1: don't have to blow the whistles and all that other
Speaker 1: type of shit. Oh short of bad motherfucker, Oh for sure, definitely.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So we about to let
Speaker 1: y'all go, man, make sure man, y'all check in man,
Speaker 1: y'all tap in man with eight Man. He got some
Speaker 1: cold merchandise, man, And we got some cold merchandise about
Speaker 1: the drop man for the Gangster Chronicles. Man, make sure
Speaker 1: y'all check us out. Man. We launching this new website
Speaker 1: next week. Man, Gangster Chronicles dot com. I haven't been
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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Support that real, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. That's how we do.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, we about to get another new were about
Speaker 1: to get our what's the name of that shit and
Speaker 1: our tiktoks and our what's the name of the other site?
Speaker 1: Brian the snapchats and all that shit cracking. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Well I've been told we about to get all that cracking.
Speaker 1: So twenty twenty four we abotther, tighten up on a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of shit and we out of here.
Speaker 3: Sure.
Speaker 1: Well, that concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast.
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