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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast. This might be welcome back

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Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined. I'm in

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Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What's up boys? Hey Dan? A little crack

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Speaker 1: to the throat there a little in the night last night. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got a got a couple of drinks, a little

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Speaker 1: I showed up about five, and I could already tell

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Speaker 1: west was well on the path to enlightenment. I think

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Speaker 1: I only have one drink. When you showed up, well,

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Speaker 1: you were in good spirits. So it was like you

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Speaker 1: know sometimes when you're at a happy hour, especially and

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Speaker 1: one goes down, it's just like, let's fly, and I

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Speaker 1: can tell you how to let's fly. Look too. Had

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Speaker 1: the trajectory of you could tell where I was going,

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Speaker 1: I'd say, you're fully back west from what I can see. Well,

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Speaker 1: that was the first happy where I've gone to and

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Speaker 1: probably a year. Very good. I feel like we've been

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Speaker 1: to a couple of drinking accations with you post Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl on non official happy Okay, I don't know what classifies.

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Speaker 1: They were charging full price of the owners. This is

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Speaker 1: the Friday edition of the Around the NFL podcast, so

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Speaker 1: much to get to the big news. Of course, is

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Speaker 1: one of the most famous Cowboys of the last i'd

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Speaker 1: we'll get into that. Also we will check in UH

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Speaker 1: a little housekeeping, see where we are there, Greg. I

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Speaker 1: think you might like it. M little tease. Looking forward

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Speaker 1: to it. And also our draft Quarterback Draft series continues

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Of course, we had Josh Norris of Rhoda World.

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Speaker 1: Hard Drive, Josh Norris talked about Sam Donald, who he

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Speaker 1: was not a big fan of, Uh, Josh Um specifically

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Speaker 1: Sam Alipoor of ESPN who wrote a really nice profile

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Speaker 1: that came out this week and UH and then a

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Speaker 1: little announcement at the end of the show about a

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Speaker 1: very special addition to the Around the NFL podcast coming

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Speaker 1: up next week. That's it. I laid out the whole

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Speaker 1: good set up, right, Greg. I don't even know what

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Speaker 1: the special announcement is. So I'm excited, very good, even

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Speaker 1: better than all right, let's get to it. Let's do

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Speaker 1: some news. Lindsay dinosaurs are back and they are not happy.

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Speaker 1: Check out Erica tempos. Are you crazy for this one?

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Speaker 1: She did a really nice job. If you haven't seen

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Speaker 1: it yet on Twitter, you can get it at the

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Speaker 1: or whatever wherever. Um putting video to Lindsay's Um what

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Speaker 1: are they called again? But there's topics. That's what she

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Speaker 1: calls them. I like that word. That's that's about to

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Speaker 1: Lindsay told us last Friday. They are called topicals. What

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Speaker 1: was Greg about to say that? Why are you saying topicals? Idiot?

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Speaker 1: Felt like you? That's what it was. Yeah, I learned

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Speaker 1: a lot about what Dan has has a vision of

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Speaker 1: responding to a ghost that's not here in that case

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Speaker 1: all have our theories, but I'm gonna we're gonna work

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Speaker 1: through this. Greg, I feel confident. Uh. You know who's

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Speaker 1: not going to work through it? The Cowboys and does Bryant. Nope,

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Speaker 1: it's over people. Jerry Jones met with the Wide Seever

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Speaker 1: in a statement Jerry Jones UH said, as an organization,

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Speaker 1: are grateful for his passion, spirit and contributions to this

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Speaker 1: a valued member of our family. Mark will start with

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Speaker 1: I just don't think we'll ever see the same des

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Speaker 1: hard to see Dez Bryant. It's kind of like when

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Speaker 1: Right now, Mike Wallace ways in exactly at two hundred pounds.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a hell of a weekend at Hananos

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Speaker 1: to get you in trouble? Could you do it? Is

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Speaker 1: there any way a human kild gain pounds in seventy

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Speaker 1: somethings seventy two hours? I think Trent Richardson could andre

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Speaker 1: the giant. Potentially if you're already like six hundred, like

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Speaker 1: morbidly OBUs, maybe you get it up to six fifty

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Speaker 1: and a couple of days. But I don't don't think

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Speaker 1: so fifty pounds and a couple of that you have

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Speaker 1: to grow a new appendage. You would probably it would

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Speaker 1: probably take honestly, eating NonStop milkshakes and all that hamburger

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Speaker 1: you have to eat, eat, eat, eat like a ten child.

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Speaker 1: Could you even put fifty pounds of food in your body?

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Speaker 1: And I mean that's Joe Thomas. He had that recipe

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Speaker 1: for keeping on his weight that he recommended that it

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Speaker 1: was what it was, a peanut butter sandwich and a

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Speaker 1: glass of whole milk every hour a day. I'll do it.

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Speaker 1: That's why are dead. But if you if you ramp

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Speaker 1: that up to every thirty minutes, every fifteen minutes, then

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Speaker 1: what I want like Wallace to do. I I understand

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Speaker 1: it's a human challenge that few would ever ever go

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Speaker 1: out there this weekend, have an intense lost weekend. I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about eating whole chickens, drinking everything that you possibly

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Speaker 1: get her hands on, and show up around to still

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Speaker 1: get your money. That would be fun. But that's I

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Speaker 1: want this agent. This is an incredible incentive. What was

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Speaker 1: the weight that Trent Richardson gained at Danny's, Like thirteen

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Speaker 1: pounds in a weekend or something? Uh? Yeah about that?

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Speaker 1: Maybe it is possible if you're Trade Richard and I

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Speaker 1: just watch you guys all to know. I spoke with

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Speaker 1: the Shadowy League figures. Uh, to get your bonuses. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you just gotta come into camp in August under four

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Speaker 1: hundred pounds four together, yeah each each. Let's do they? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: They call these there's you know, unlikely to be incerned

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Speaker 1: incentives and then likely to be hear. I guess this

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Speaker 1: would be in the likely to be earned incenting. So

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Speaker 1: and finally in the news, Oh, against all odds, Michael

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Speaker 1: Crabtree verse a keep to lead back on. It's Crabtree

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Speaker 1: to leave three baby, no chain, no gain. Well, and

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Speaker 1: you think how could this have happened? Because crab Tree,

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Speaker 1: of course left the a f C West, went to

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Speaker 1: Baltimore and then you have to leave who got traded

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Speaker 1: from the Broncos to the Rams different conferences. Well, guess

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Speaker 1: what the Baltimore Sun hoarded on Thursday that the two

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Speaker 1: teams will have a joint a series of joint practices

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Speaker 1: ahead of their preseason game on August nine in Baltimore. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and everything is back in play, gentlemen. I know, like

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Speaker 1: everything yesterday on as we were, you know, doling out

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Speaker 1: news stories, when this one came across, it was is

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Speaker 1: this going to Kevin Patris, it go into Burgo? Is

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Speaker 1: it going to someone else? No? No, this is going

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Speaker 1: to Dan. David Eally actually had to at you because

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Speaker 1: this is your kind of story, And I had to

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Speaker 1: ask after last year's you know you you track something

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Speaker 1: last year during the preseason and training Campy Folk the

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Speaker 1: biggest cliffhanger since that one episode of Friends when Rachel

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Speaker 1: went to meet Ross at the airport after his work

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Speaker 1: trip to China and was stunned to see Ross cuddling

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Speaker 1: up to his new squeeze Julie, Is it is this

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Speaker 1: as big as that for you? Is that? Are you

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Speaker 1: tracking it to something that was one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: battles in the history of professional football. Uh, this is

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Speaker 1: this is kind of I filing under a different scenario

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Speaker 1: because they're not fighting for one job or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: But you know, crab sturet, he's wearing the chain again. Great,

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Speaker 1: he's wearing the chain because if you did not wear

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Speaker 1: the chain the second time, to take it off now

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Speaker 1: would be to back down, to lose face, to lose face,

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Speaker 1: to lose respects tracking it intensely. So right, yeah, you can't.

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Speaker 1: You can't play in the NFL anymore if you don't

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Speaker 1: show up to that practice. Serious. And my favorite, one

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Speaker 1: of my favorite stories of last season was before the

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Speaker 1: second time the chain got ripped, he actually taped it

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Speaker 1: down onto his chest before kickoff. Son would not reach

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Speaker 1: for it because if you you know what what you

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Speaker 1: just said, if you take off the chain, you lose

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Speaker 1: the He man alpha man, alpha man. Can't do that

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Speaker 1: after two times, sure, but after one time there's not

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Speaker 1: that much attention on it. You know, you could still

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Speaker 1: get away with, you know, putting the chain of it.

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Speaker 1: Where are these practice going to be held? They will

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Speaker 1: be old um, I think in Baltimore or the area.

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Speaker 1: So he'll be on his home turf, which will give

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Speaker 1: him access to because you could have been there for it.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think it's crazy to ask. You know

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Speaker 1: this new NFL. You know, can I make the trip?

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Speaker 1: Lets fly you out to the new landscape. I love it?

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Speaker 1: All right, that's what's happening in the news. All Right,

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Speaker 1: we move on at his time to continue our draft

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Speaker 1: quarterback series. We roll on. This will be the most

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Speaker 1: important draft like ever. Guys, we need to talk about Josh.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's what you've gotten yourself into. Sam. Here's

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Speaker 1: Sam Alipoor. He is a senior writer at ESPN magazine.

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Speaker 1: He has an amazing Chris Stops for Singa's avatar on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: and he had this to say about Josh Rosen, the

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Speaker 1: u c l A quarterback. He may very well become

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Speaker 1: the first bold, informed voice to helm the most important

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Speaker 1: position in America's top sport. Sam, let's start there. Isn't

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Speaker 1: that exactly what might scare some teams off come April. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it'll scare some teams off. But Josh is looking for

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Speaker 1: a good fit. I think. Look, he agreed to this interview.

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Speaker 1: It's a risky proposition putting a microphone in front of Josh,

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Speaker 1: a guy who who has gotten himself in trouble with

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Speaker 1: his outspoken thoughts. But I think he agreed to do

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Speaker 1: this interview in part because he really does want everybody,

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Speaker 1: teams included, to know exactly who he is because fit

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Speaker 1: is important for him. Yeah, you know, everyone wants to

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Speaker 1: go first. I think Josh A big factor here is

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Speaker 1: cultural fit. If a team's on the fence after reading

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Speaker 1: his full thoughts on a variety of topics ranging from

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Speaker 1: UH leadership to religion to colonizing Mars, then UH, if

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Speaker 1: they're still on the fence, you know, get out a

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Speaker 1: lot because Josh is looking for the fix. Sam is

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Speaker 1: referring to, as he said at the top of the show,

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Speaker 1: Q and A that he did with Josh Rosen, and

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Speaker 1: I found it to be fascinating look into Rosen and

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Speaker 1: basically where he's coming from. That all makes sense to me.

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Speaker 1: Josh that he he does Sam, he doesn't want people

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Speaker 1: to to think that they're getting gonna get a quarterback

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Speaker 1: that's gonna keep his mouth shut, that's not going to

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Speaker 1: share his thoughts, and that to me, that makes him exciting. West.

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Speaker 1: I know you you kind of feel the same way. Well,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of talk about just how intelligent he

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Speaker 1: is compared to other football players. And to me, this

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Speaker 1: is a sign of intelligence. It's about quality of life.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't want to go to a team where he's

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Speaker 1: not gonna where coaches aren't gonna accept who he is.

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Speaker 1: He knows who he is. He wants to go even

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Speaker 1: if he loses a little bit of money in the process.

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Speaker 1: It's about quality of a Yeah, I would agree with that.

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Speaker 1: He definitely knows who he is, but he also knows

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Speaker 1: what he doesn't know. You know, the knock on him

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Speaker 1: or among the many knocks on him, and these are

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Speaker 1: all perceived character flaws, right, These are the analysis of

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Speaker 1: the unquantifiable. But among those knocks is uh. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's he's an arrogant know it all? I found the

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Speaker 1: guy I sat across from for an hour is not

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Speaker 1: that guy. Uh. He repeatedly says the words, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: What do you think? He's a very curious guy. He's

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Speaker 1: a millennial in many ways he is, and I mean,

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Speaker 1: like take our our conversation about religion. Uh. He is

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Speaker 1: a uh culturally Jewish, Jewish by heritage, and you know,

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Speaker 1: attended Catholic Mass every day just to learn. He was interested,

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Speaker 1: he was curious now he's U. Sorry, Yeah, I was

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Speaker 1: gonna say, well, I think he's gonna go into the

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Speaker 1: priesthood every Sunday though you said, right, every Sunday. Every

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Speaker 1: Sunday tells you how much I know? And then and

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Speaker 1: then on that note, he draws me in. He asked me, well,

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Speaker 1: what do you sit on it? And I'm a Muslim

577
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Speaker 1: by heritage, Uh, ancestrally, I guess you could say. And

578
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Speaker 1: I too attended mass partly to impress a Catholic girlfriend,

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Speaker 1: and I too am agnostic. And we sort of saw

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Speaker 1: eye to eye on that. And as he says, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't have the answers on this. I think it's

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Speaker 1: it's strange to think you're born into the right religion. Uh.

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Speaker 1: So he's on a search. He's searching, so you know,

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Speaker 1: he again he knows what he doesn't know, and and

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Speaker 1: that applies to coaching. He does want to know the why.

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Speaker 1: He wants you to tell him if you're if you're

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Speaker 1: a coach, why are we calling this play? But he's

588
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Speaker 1: also a people pleaser. He says, you tell him why

589
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Speaker 1: and he'll go out there and execute it. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: that could scare some some teams off. But you know,

591
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Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of coaches in this league, GMS

592
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Speaker 1: who aren't threatened by that, who are not threatened by

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Speaker 1: an inquisitive, smart quarterback. And if you don't think that

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Speaker 1: applies to Tom Brady, you're crazy. That that is Tom Brady,

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Speaker 1: you know, is though she regularly says that Tom uh

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Speaker 1: needs to be challenged, that Tom needs the Why wow,

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Speaker 1: that's that's Josh And surely there's a team out there

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Speaker 1: for from the football side. I you know, we we

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Speaker 1: are pro guys. We don't spend a ton of time

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Speaker 1: watching college. But I watched this morning his game against

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Speaker 1: Texas A and M the incredible fourth quarter comeback, and

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Speaker 1: I realized he through a couple of passes there that

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Speaker 1: could have been picks that would have neutralized that incredible

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Speaker 1: performance by him in the fourth quarter. But all this

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Speaker 1: business about he's intelligent in his personality. How I don't

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Speaker 1: care if you're what in GM you or how do

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00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: you not watch that kind of performance and some of

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Speaker 1: his tape Compared to some of the other quarterbacks, he's

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Speaker 1: an incredibly natural thrower on the field. Why is that

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Speaker 1: not superseding the idea that he's intelligent and inquisitive. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I I'm a little down if you're if you're a

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Speaker 1: fan of a team that looks at Josh Rosen and

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Speaker 1: says he's too much for us to handle, it might

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Speaker 1: be time to find a new team. Doesn't He kind

615
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Speaker 1: of feel like an outlier in this type of process too, because,

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Speaker 1: like in the profile you mentioned that Jim mora An

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Speaker 1: s I called Rosen a challenge, but he's a fun challenge,

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Speaker 1: to which Rosen said, I think if you take radioactive

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Speaker 1: material and concentrate it, you can get something real special

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Speaker 1: out of it. He's calling himself radioactive, which is usually

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Speaker 1: not how this goes. Like usually you're trying to sell

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Speaker 1: the best version of yourself, even that's if that's not

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Speaker 1: who you really are. But to me, that's how it

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Speaker 1: came across in this profile, Sam that he he's just

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Speaker 1: saying I am who I am and if you don't

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Speaker 1: like it, don't draft me, which is kind of unusual

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Speaker 1: in my opinion. It's a different take, isn't it? On

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Speaker 1: the on the draft process? But he's a different birdman.

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Speaker 1: He's he's very very unique. I've never met anybody like him.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: How do you not look at his tape, his skills.

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Speaker 1: He's the most quarter you know, pro ready quarterback in

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Speaker 1: this draft. I mean, I'll leave that to you're smarter

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00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: people to talk about. I just interviewed him. But but um,

635
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Speaker 1: but you know, at the same time, there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of teams out there in conservative country. He clearly

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00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: leans liberal. He's going to be a social activist. He's

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00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: gonna buy his time at first, as he said, he's

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Speaker 1: not gonna rock the boat until he's got a starting job.

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Speaker 1: But eventually, if he does pan out on the field,

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Speaker 1: he will be the face of a franchise with all

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Speaker 1: that entails, a position that's usually manned by cookie cutter

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Speaker 1: personalities and and you know, with robotic answers. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to put a microphone in front of

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Speaker 1: Drew brees face because he is not interesting. Right But

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Speaker 1: and and for that matter, you know Tom Brady and

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Speaker 1: a lot of That's why I'm calling him or in

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Speaker 1: my tweet anyway, not in the story. Uh, potentially the

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Speaker 1: first bold informed voice two man the most high profile

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Speaker 1: position in sports and cap Colin Kaepernick is a bold

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Speaker 1: informed voice. Now not necessarily when he was bawling out,

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Speaker 1: uh for the forty niners. So imagine you know, again,

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Speaker 1: assuming Josh pans out on the field, combining that with

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Speaker 1: that platform and then his his you know, bold informed

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Speaker 1: voice that that's a change agent in the ready position.

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Speaker 1: This guy can make a bigger impact off the field

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Speaker 1: than on the fields. And that's saying something. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think that's absolutely right, and that's why so many of

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Speaker 1: the things he said in this interview got a lot

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Speaker 1: of attention that had nothing to do with football. But

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Speaker 1: one of the quotes that really struck me was about football,

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Speaker 1: and I think it was really telling every one focused

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Speaker 1: on on the best QB in the draft. You know,

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Speaker 1: everyone's gonna say that, but what he said makes him

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Speaker 1: the best QB is that he's the most efficient, monotonously

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Speaker 1: consistent QB in the draft. That Aaron Rodgers has a

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Speaker 1: little flare, but if you watch Tom Brady, Peyton Mannager Brees,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing explosive or Johnny Manzel like, it's just quarterbacking.

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Speaker 1: And when I watched Josh Rosen, like, I am in

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Speaker 1: love with what I see because you can see the throws,

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Speaker 1: you can see him uh handle pressure because they had

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Speaker 1: such poor offensive line play. You can you can see

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Speaker 1: that the baseline seems to be what we call the

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Speaker 1: Dalton scale, which is that in between whether he's a

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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback or not, that feels like the baseline. And

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Speaker 1: usually NFL teams want a really safe, supposedly quarterback because

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Speaker 1: I think the the contrast between his personality and what

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Speaker 1: he does on the field is great because when you

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Speaker 1: look at him, he's the one I don't really see

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Speaker 1: the holes and he's the efficient guy that you almost

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Speaker 1: feel like, Gosh, in a worst key scenario. As long

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Speaker 1: as he gets drafted by the word, by the right team,

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Speaker 1: he can be an efficient you know, Kirk Cousins plus

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Speaker 1: type of player. The contrast is stark, isn't it. It's

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Speaker 1: it's really strange. I I see the same thing when

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Speaker 1: I look look at him, a monotonous, consistent quarterback, whatever

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Speaker 1: that means. And then you off the field. He's this

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Speaker 1: guy who can uh speak eloquently on on interplanetary colonization.

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Speaker 1: He seems like pro send the nukes at the tips

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Speaker 1: of Mars. He seemed like he wasn't against the elon mos. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what the hell was that? The interview and be like, dude,

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Speaker 1: what are we talking about right now? But I mean, boy,

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Speaker 1: I honestly I enjoyed that conversation so much. I went

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Speaker 1: in bracing to meet uh the guy that the NFL

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Speaker 1: draft whisper machine had painted him out to be, which

696
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Speaker 1: is a small dog entitled rich kid jerk whose teammates

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Speaker 1: supposedly don't like him. The guy I met and said

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Speaker 1: is a very chill guy, a curious young man who

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Speaker 1: wants to learn, who wants to grow, who wants to

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Speaker 1: save the world, by the way, and and uh, I

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Speaker 1: don't know how you can come away from that that interview, uh,

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Speaker 1: not being impressed by awesome Uh, Sam, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for coming on. You could check out the the

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Speaker 1: profile and you really should if you haven't yet ESPN

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Speaker 1: the magazine. You could also get it online right now.

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Speaker 1: And Sam, you can follow him on Twitter at sam

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Speaker 1: Alipore a l I p O. You are on Twitter. Sam,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much, and uh, maybe I'll see on Mars

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Speaker 1: one day. You got it? There you go, Sam, I

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Speaker 1: am so intrigued by Rosen and Mark again, and the

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Speaker 1: reason why we're doing this series. You have to go

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Speaker 1: back to three really to find a quarterback class that

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Speaker 1: had the had the opportunity have such a seismic change

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Speaker 1: and make the difference in the following year. And that's

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Speaker 1: what we're doing here. And Josh Rosen he's the guy

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Speaker 1: that's kind of to me the most fascinating prospect and

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Speaker 1: the one that and as the Jets and Browns fans

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Speaker 1: in the remark, we're not hearing our teams connected to

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Speaker 1: him and that they're at the one, four and three picks.

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Speaker 1: It's it's kind of you wonder if our teams are

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Speaker 1: scared in the same way it seems like other teams

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Speaker 1: could be. It's, um, I agree with Greg with your

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Speaker 1: assessment having started to watch these guys, uh, that he

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Speaker 1: stands out to me is the one that you can

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Speaker 1: just see him on an NFL field performing weekend week

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00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: out in the consistent similar way. And it and it

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Speaker 1: highly bothers me that the culture and we're not not

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Speaker 1: calling out a specific team because we don't know what

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Speaker 1: these teams actually think behind closed doors right now. We

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Speaker 1: don't know. But but if that's the case that some

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Speaker 1: are passing on him because he is intellectual and interesting

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Speaker 1: and curious. By the way, he's not the only NFL

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Speaker 1: player with the mouth. That would that would that would

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Speaker 1: If I were a fan of one of those teams,

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Speaker 1: I would be extremely disappointed because I think you're passing

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Speaker 1: on and on a potentially very special player. If if

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Speaker 1: football is what he wants to do with his life

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Speaker 1: long term, isn't that a fair question? This is a

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Speaker 1: guy whose first love was tennis and came to football later.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it a fair question to ask how much how

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Speaker 1: important football is to him? And that's what I'm assuming.

742
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Speaker 1: These teams can't just be you know, oh, we don't

743
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Speaker 1: need a quarterback who's interested in in in exploration of Mars.

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Speaker 1: There's got to be the more burning question needs to

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Speaker 1: be because you along with this stuff. If you're a

746
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Speaker 1: quarterback and we've seen it, if you're not all in,

747
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Speaker 1: then you simply don't fit the culture of the position.

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Speaker 1: We don't know if he is he isn't. Well he's

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Speaker 1: been connected to fairly or fair I given the benefit

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Speaker 1: of the doubt till I know otherwise. But these teams

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Speaker 1: no more than we do. But I it bothers me

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Speaker 1: to think that anyone would pass based on a unique

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00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: personality that that to me tells me. The NFL and

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Speaker 1: these front offices are so ancient in their inking. Potentially,

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Speaker 1: I think that that's got to be a factor. And

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Speaker 1: I do think Josh Allen and Sam Donald do have

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Speaker 1: some of the traits that teams make mistakes on again

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Speaker 1: and again that Josh Rosen might have the I don't

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00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: think it's a red flag, but might not have the

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Speaker 1: sex appeal as a player, just because he's not quite

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Speaker 1: as good, uh, improvising. He's not quite as big physically,

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Speaker 1: He's got a really good arm and I think probably

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Speaker 1: throws the ball down the field. He's showed that he

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Speaker 1: can do it better than than those two better, but

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Speaker 1: it's not as big like wow, it's gotta wow you

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Speaker 1: you know arm and maybe though that's part of it

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Speaker 1: as well. Well. Now more than ever, improvising is important.

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Speaker 1: But I think Peyton Manning and Tom Brady and Drew

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Speaker 1: Brees have showed that Philip Rivers too. What you do

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Speaker 1: before the snap and how quickly you get rid of

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Speaker 1: the football can offset and that need for imp far

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Speaker 1: from a stiff He's closer to Drew Brees, who was great.

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Speaker 1: He was one of the best tennis players in the country.

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Speaker 1: That guy's a great athlete. He made he made planes

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Speaker 1: against any courts of thunderpost like I mean, I'm all

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Speaker 1: in on Josh Rosen. I mean for all, for all

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Speaker 1: of the above. So if the Jets take him, like

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Speaker 1: I said, he's got some Greg qualities to him. Wow,

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Speaker 1: I'll take that as a compliment. He also has Gregg,

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Speaker 1: he has the he's Jewish, oh yeah, and he goes

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Speaker 1: to math Mass every Sunday or but he claims to

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Speaker 1: be either an agnostic or an atheist. But he's checking

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Speaker 1: all the boxes. So he's got jew Greg, Catholic, then

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Speaker 1: agnostic West. I'm not agnostic atheists. I'm searching. Well, he

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Speaker 1: I will say this, he didn't and then Mark just

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Speaker 1: Mark covers everything. He's a spiritual monster. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: not the only person that's plugged into Neil gret de

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Speaker 1: grass Tyson by the way, but I do appreciate that

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Speaker 1: he's got a wide breadth of interest. Okay, there you go.

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Speaker 1: Interesting prospect. I love this draft. It's going to be

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Speaker 1: on the Broncos, will the will the Jets take? You know,

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Speaker 1: that is a fear the guard out of falls to

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Speaker 1: the Broncos. And then it's like, oh John Elway does

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Speaker 1: it again? This guy gets it. It's like a calm down.

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Speaker 1: If anything. The lack of teams like connected to rows

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Speaker 1: and almost makes me think maybe they all do love him.

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Speaker 1: The one guy that none of the teams are specifically

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Speaker 1: that connected to. John Elway knew what he was doing

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Speaker 1: all along. He had a case in his back pocket.

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Speaker 1: Just when he counted out, John, Oh, he comes and

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Speaker 1: could tell all the rap might be time to move

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Speaker 1: on picture right now. And Elway he had been playing

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Speaker 1: case keen him. A great locker room guy could come

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Speaker 1: you bring in the kid. This is just masterful work

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Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. If I one of the best

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Speaker 1: view training and nutrition tips Spartan Baby. Okay, Uh, little

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Speaker 1: housekeeping before we go. I gotta get to this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Get to the weekend and party. Remember there's like party.

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Speaker 1: I cannot stand that word as a verb. Blood. Party. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is. It's annoyed to me when it say let's

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Speaker 1: go a party this Friday. Now, just that is that

859
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Speaker 1: is a it is a troubling bourbon. It's a fair

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Speaker 1: stance you're taking. I agree. Mark is back from Europe.

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Speaker 1: He's out on party. It's yeah, he did some partying

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Speaker 1: with Rex Ryan and marketing. Actually, speaking of five k's,

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Speaker 1: we were Rex was about to run a five k

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Speaker 1: in Germany, um and then we found out it was rescheduled.

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Speaker 1: Good thing it was. He would I don't think he

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Speaker 1: would have done this, would have to lap end. Did

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Speaker 1: that come up at all? He looks fit to me,

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Speaker 1: I didn't have to not come up. How was eating happen?

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Speaker 1: I don't know how I would have gotten into that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, these guys ate well. But he he it

871
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Speaker 1: was a fit looking. Remember that he said that when

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Speaker 1: him and Rob were temporarily bonded again in Buffalo that

873
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Speaker 1: he was removing his lap band to honor his brother

874
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Speaker 1: and go at their fitness plan together on even footing,

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Speaker 1: which just sounded like a big excuse to be able

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Speaker 1: to eat a lot of steak again. But it sounds

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Speaker 1: like he's he's working at it. I don't have a

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Speaker 1: status update on the band. I thought you guys talked

879
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Speaker 1: about that never came up. It's like something inside of

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Speaker 1: someone's body. I don't need to I didn't go down

881
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Speaker 1: that road. But why don't you just text him now?

882
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Speaker 1: And maybe by the end of this you have Rex's number?

883
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Speaker 1: Got it? Yeah? Because we have to There's more interviews

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Speaker 1: to come for this this thing I'm writing, So yeah,

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Speaker 1: you want to share it? No, we call him right now,

886
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Speaker 1: and with the listeners, I don't think that would be

887
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Speaker 1: Can we call Rex right now? Let's do it another time? Okay,

888
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Speaker 1: there's just think of all the listeners right now in

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Speaker 1: their cargoing. Come on, Mark, come on, Mark, come on,

890
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Speaker 1: let's just call him up, Lindsay, don't cave to peer pressure, Mark,

891
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Speaker 1: I think that might that might not be a strategically

892
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Speaker 1: good move. Right now, let's do a little housekeeping because

893
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Speaker 1: since next week, uh or maybe the week after, but

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Speaker 1: we will do our go get my lunch props for

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Speaker 1: the two thousand eighteen NFL draft. Uh. So let's check

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Speaker 1: in on our last round, which covered free agency. We'll

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Speaker 1: start with Chris Wesling West. You said yourself that this

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Speaker 1: was an important round for you to get back in

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Speaker 1: the race. You're still in a little bit of trouble

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Speaker 1: because you are currently at three and eight. We'll probably

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Speaker 1: get a little bit better when everything winds up. But

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Speaker 1: you had a j mccaren and Terrell prior signing with

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Speaker 1: the Browns. Mccaren went to the Bills and prior went

904
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Speaker 1: to the Jets. Uh, so you lost two sandwiches there.

905
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Speaker 1: Mark did not take you on that well. I thought

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Speaker 1: it made so much sense within like an hour it

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Speaker 1: was before traded for Landry or something that was dead

908
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Speaker 1: in the water. You speaking of John Elway always gets

909
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Speaker 1: his man. You had Kirk Cousins going to Denver. Didn't happen. Uhisota.

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Speaker 1: Of course you got two, right though Richard Sherman gets

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Speaker 1: more guaranteed money than Teddy Bridgewater. Uh, Teddy Porteddy just

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Speaker 1: got five from the I think Teddy's paying the Jets

913
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Speaker 1: to play. That was like, that was really a pictures duel.

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Speaker 1: Sherman signed a blow market contract, but still, what do

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Speaker 1: he got like five million or something? Three? Technically as

916
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Speaker 1: long as he's on the team. It was a bit.

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Speaker 1: I did not take you up on that. West So

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Speaker 1: Greg and Mark got sandwiches, and then you, uh, you

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Speaker 1: went out and said, Kyle Fuller will sign a contract

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Speaker 1: from a team other than the Bears. He did get

921
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Speaker 1: a contract from the Saints, was it Sackers? But then

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Speaker 1: the Bears matched that. So and you guys all expected that,

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Speaker 1: we all believe that would happen. To need a word,

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Speaker 1: We need a vocab word for when that happened. So

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Speaker 1: listeners help us out there. Mark Sessler Uh, currently seven

926
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Speaker 1: and three, but that will likely change, but for now

927
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Speaker 1: you're in a good position. Kirk Cousins signs with the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. Congratulations, you went with a favorite and that

929
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Speaker 1: was smart. Joe Thomas retires before the draft. This one

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Speaker 1: felt a little dirty, but uh, you had sparrows. I

931
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Speaker 1: did not have sparrows. I did not know I had.

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Speaker 1: I gone the other way. I actually I did not

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Speaker 1: have it. We had some of other people in the

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Speaker 1: tony grossy, A little grossy. There's random team employees that

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Speaker 1: are termed like inside the building people. I just I went,

936
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Speaker 1: here's the thing. I don't tell us. We won't be mad.

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Speaker 1: Each of my each of my props, all three of

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Speaker 1: you took had I said. Joe Thomas plays for another season.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anyone of you would have taken me.

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Speaker 1: But just I'm being honestus, did anyone did you get

941
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Speaker 1: inside info? Absolutely not, I promise you. I vowed to

942
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Speaker 1: you because even if you did well, played by you, sir,

943
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Speaker 1: I but I would tell you, Yes, I wouldn't know,

944
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Speaker 1: because I've said before I have a source on this

945
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Speaker 1: or that I would tell you. I would. At the time,

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Speaker 1: he did say that he was going to do the

947
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Speaker 1: complete opposite, which is definitely a mark move to go

948
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Speaker 1: completely different, just on a whim. As you're going by

949
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Speaker 1: analysis like you made, you made three sandwiches up, Dan

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Speaker 1: Gregg and West there. Now you have two that are

951
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Speaker 1: hanging in the air. Neither looks promising. Uh. DeMarco Murray

952
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Speaker 1: signs with an NFC East team. I guess that could happen,

953
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Speaker 1: but he is looking at there. He's a member of

954
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Speaker 1: the Graybeards, which is never a good sign in mid April,

955
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Speaker 1: and you also have a big time decision maker will

956
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Speaker 1: be fired prior to the draft due to a botching

957
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Speaker 1: free agency. You could almost already put this in the

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Speaker 1: alcohol because it probably would have happened by now. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's I think the dude to botching free agency part

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Speaker 1: unless that were some sort of narrative that came out

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Speaker 1: in the next couple of weeks. I think I lost

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Speaker 1: this one, but in draft thirteen days away now, so

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Speaker 1: it's getting looking like you're losing six sandwiches. It looks

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Speaker 1: like you'll end up and nine. I'll be seven and nine,

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Speaker 1: sort of like a Buffalo Bills type Greg Rosenthal, big

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Speaker 1: big round ten and five currently with more to come potentially.

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Speaker 1: You also went with the favorite Kirk Cousins to the

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Speaker 1: Vikings Richard Sherman will not be among the top five

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Speaker 1: cornerbacks and guaranteed money. You made three sandwiches off of that. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you did not. You almost. I mean we've never had

971
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Speaker 1: a perfect game, and I would say you kind of

972
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Speaker 1: came close because it probably was a discussion inside the

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Speaker 1: building with John Gruden. But Marshawn Lynch gets cut before

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Speaker 1: April one. He remains on the team and probably will Wes.

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Speaker 1: You did not take Greg up on that, so Dan

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Speaker 1: and Mark made sandwiches. Uh, and finally he took a

977
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Speaker 1: pay cut. Yeah, it took some money to say Truemayin

978
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Speaker 1: Johnson receives the most guaranteed money of any defensive player.

979
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Speaker 1: That's a good one, and it got you three Sandwiches,

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Speaker 1: So ten and five with the potential to get all

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Speaker 1: the way up to twelve and five. Right now, looks

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Speaker 1: Greg owns guaranteed money space of this exercise. I honestly

983
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Speaker 1: I don't even have a head for that, so I

984
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Speaker 1: would never make that kind of a bet. And Gregg

985
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: has got one multiple times on that. That's a mental note.

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Speaker 1: Never disagree with Greg on guarantees. Yeah, there's a strategist game.

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Speaker 1: And finally, the old zeus A currently four and eight.

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Speaker 1: Richard Sherman signs within three weeks at the beginning of

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Speaker 1: free agency. Uh, he actually signed even before it started

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Speaker 1: technically after getting cut. Made two Sangwiches there. Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 1: signed a two thousand, seventeen Vikings quarterback. They did. They

992
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Speaker 1: signed Sam Radford, but nobody took the Zeus random, which

993
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Speaker 1: cost me in a big spot. That's answer that one. Uh,

994
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Speaker 1: because I don't think that was too safe. I thought

995
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Speaker 1: I should have gotten at least one Sangwich off. There

996
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: were just so many Vikings quarterbacks. Yeah, Kirk Cousins signs

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00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: with the Jets. I had that premonition, but I actually

998
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Speaker 1: read into the premonition wrong. I was actually just thanking

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins and wishing him luck considering my team, I think.

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Speaker 1: And finally it came pretty close on this one. Andrew Norwell,

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Speaker 1: the Guard receives the most guaranteed money of all non

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Speaker 1: qbs Slash and Dominican sue. Uh. It was looking good

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00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: for the first few days, but then uh uh Trumaine

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Speaker 1: Johnson and I believe actually it would have been the

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Speaker 1: right answer. So I think he ended up making the

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Speaker 1: third most non QB guaranteed money, and that cost me

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Speaker 1: three sandwiches. So I'll probably finish six and eight. Greg,

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Speaker 1: probably twelve and five, Marks seven and nine, and West

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Speaker 1: five and eight. It looks like so that puts you

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Speaker 1: into first place all time, Greg. And now you've got

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Speaker 1: the draft coming up right now, because I want that.

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Speaker 1: I want first place back. Well, I just I want to.

1013
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Speaker 1: I have some sparrows, you know, wondering about, you know,

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Speaker 1: the future of go get my lunch, because I haven't

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Speaker 1: seen it. We haven't seen any actual lunch in a

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Speaker 1: long time, so this is just some parlor game. Then

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Speaker 1: we might have to change the name of I don't

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Speaker 1: do parlor games. So it's a parlor game amount just

1019
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Speaker 1: begging for sandwiches over there. Maybe we should, maybe we'll

1020
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Speaker 1: do some sandwich just stuff, because not only does Nick

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Speaker 1: Fortier uh keep the standings updated and go and all

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Speaker 1: the bets going back years now props excuse me, he

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Speaker 1: also has a who owns Who Owes Whom? Tab as

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Speaker 1: well as that really fun soundboard. Uh so make sure

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Speaker 1: you check it out. Go get my lunch dot org.

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Speaker 1: Uh fun, fun fun. I'm doing a sandwich run next week.

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Speaker 1: I found a new place. Ouch. I owe a ton

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Speaker 1: of sandwiches to everyone. I'm gonna get in here and

1029
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Speaker 1: reprogram this page somehow. All right, do you even know sandwiches?

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Speaker 1: To Patra? Oh no, I do? I do? This is bad? Sorry, yeah, Um,

1031
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Speaker 1: don't worry about work, just pay us, don't worry about

1032
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Speaker 1: everybody else. Uh. Maybe Patra send him something. He deserves

1033
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Speaker 1: it after working so hard cranking out the news ors.

1034
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Speaker 1: He deserves the sandwich. Big announcement coming up next week

1035
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Speaker 1: sometimes imitated, never duplicated, and you know what I'm talking about,

1036
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Speaker 1: supre you're the GM. It makes its return next week

1037
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Speaker 1: and around the NFL podcast. Oh yeah, get the cold

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Speaker 1: bomb ready, comb bomb sugar Bear, Sugar Bear, and uh,

1039
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Speaker 1: if you don't know what it is, well you'll have

1040
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: to find out. But just know that the general managers

1041
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: and head coaches of the NFL, with the draft right

1042
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: around the corner, they're picking up the phones and then

1043
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Speaker 1: making some phone calls, trying to make their teams better,

1044
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: trying to get to the Super Bowl. Hoist that trop

1045
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: kind I feel like we lost a main character and

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Speaker 1: Sashy Brown from this exercise, who says he's out, He's

1047
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Speaker 1: still got a phone. He still got a telephone. It's

1048
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Speaker 1: no longer the GM. Uh so yes, that will come

1049
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Speaker 1: back next week and also our Draft QB series will

1050
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 1: roll on Monday. Very exciting. Oh yeah, Carbs is back.

1051
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Speaker 1: Chase Goodbread coming off really a breakout performance at the Combine.

1052
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Speaker 1: On our podcast, he will come on and talk about

1053
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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and his thoughts on the Oklahoma prospect. So

1054
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Speaker 1: that's it. Signed to party, Mark, Time to party, Hardy

1055
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Speaker 1: and had to signing up for Quiet Storm, The mail Man,

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Speaker 1: the Old bosson Lindsey fall down behind the glass, don't

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Speaker 1: mind it. M