WEBVTT - The Untamed - "Yeah BABY!" 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:03.960 You're listening to the Sportsman's Nation podcast network brought to 0:00:04.000 --> 0:00:08.559 you by Onyx Maps. Onyx Maps is literally the one 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:13.840 stop shop for all outdoorsman, whether you whitetail hunt, whether 0:00:13.880 --> 0:00:18.079 you're back country or a coon hunter, or whatever. Onyx 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:22.120 Maps has functionality for you, and the best part is 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:26.000 you don't even have to have mobile data service. Go 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:29.840 to onyx maps dot com and check out all the 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:34.280 functionality and how it can benefit you. Enter the discount 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:38.159 code Nation twenty and a T I O N to 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:48.360 zero to save off your initial purchase. My name is 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:52.000 Clay Nukeoleman. 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I started watching the Untamed on 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:13.760 the YouTube when they were just getting started, and I 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:16.560 saw that these guys had a lot of potential, mainly 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:19.359 just because of how authentic they were, and I could 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:21.720 tell that they were good hunters, and I could tell 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:24.280 that they were committed to the platform and what they 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:27.280 were doing. I reached out to these guys a while 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:30.839 back and just to encourage them and just to say 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.240 what I thought they were doing. It was cool. On 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:36.760 this podcast, I sit down with Josh and Kirk from 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:41.799 the Untamed YouTube channel and we talk about building the 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:45.800 YouTube platform, YouTube analytics. We talked about some hunting, we 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:49.040 talked about hound hunting, we talked about their very unique 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:53.000 style of deer hunting, and it's just overall a super 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:56.160 fun podcast. I even do a couple of impressions of Josh. 0:02:56.560 --> 0:03:00.680 So you're gonna want to check this out? Say it again. 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.720 I've been I've been going back and forth on it. Well, no, 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:09.840 I think I'm dyslexic. I was putting the D before 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:15.760 the L and called you, Colonel Idler. Yeah that sounds 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:19.760 pretty good. Yeah, I like that better. But everybody says 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:23.920 the Elderton. Nobody says the Olderton. We are at the 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:28.000 We're in Indianapolis. I was actually confused about what town 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:31.239 I was in this morning. We drove from Arkansas last 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:34.720 night and Uh, I told, Well, I guess I wasn't 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:36.520 confused about the town I was in, but I said, 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:39.240 I said, Kobe, we were here last year, and he 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:42.000 was like, no, we weren't. We were in Louisville, and 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:44.560 I said, no, we weren't. A t A was in Indianapolis. 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:46.560 So I guess I was confused about what town I 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:49.040 was in last year at this time. But then he 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.440 said that you were flying I told Kirk last night, 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:53.040 I said, he's flying up. I said, that's a long 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:56.040 drift Rkansas. It was a long drive. It was nine 0:03:56.120 --> 0:04:00.960 hours in the rain. But hey, we're here with UH 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:06.680 with two of our two of our buddies, Uh from 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:09.840 a YouTube channel. I'll just put it on the table, 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:16.599 Uh Josh, Uh, geez, we're gonna cut this out. Pronounce 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:19.320 your last night. I've been going to Josh Oddlerton for 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:24.960 like two years, Josh Josh Alderton, Josh Elderton, Josh Elderton 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:29.640 Price and uh and Zach over here, and I got 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:33.160 Colby Moore head the bear Tech. But h man, we're 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:37.400 gonna have a good, good conversation about I want to 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:40.040 hear about. We're gonna talk about some YouTube stuff. We 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:43.480 usually don't go into like the back room of outdoor 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:46.800 media to that kind of talk about, you know, kind 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.680 of how some of this stuff works. But I want 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:52.080 to talk to you guys about your YouTube channel because 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:56.600 you guys have built a really cool YouTube channel. Um 0:04:56.640 --> 0:05:00.920 and I think you've got forty something thousand subscribers on 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:04.280 YouTube and producing a lot of content. But I'm more 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:06.680 interested in your hunting. I want to talk about your 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:09.320 white tail hunting and some of your bear hunting with 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:13.120 hounds and uh, turkey hunting. You got a you got 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:15.840 a turkey video that's got three point three million views, 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:19.400 don't you That's crazy? Because we did. It was a 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:24.120 compilation video. Yeah, it's got three and a half. We 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:28.880 talked about it all the time. Yeah what Josh? Okay, 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:33.200 before we hear Josh's voice too much. Yesterday in the car, 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:40.920 I did a Josh impression that was uncanny, uncanny. I'd 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:42.800 like to hear it right now. Well, I tell you 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:45.960 I lost it. We it was so good. I got 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:48.840 excited more to come see Josh and to come to yesterday. 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:53.239 Yesterday I told Kobe that Josh called me and I said, 0:05:53.680 --> 0:06:00.440 I said, yeah, Josh called me. He said, hi is Josh, 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:04.680 And I nailed it, nailed it, nailed, and then I 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:07.240 lost it because this it was like better it like 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:09.920 it's about the voicemail. I left it. No, just just 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.720 talking to you yesterday I told cold said, Josh called me, 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:15.119 and I just was trying to say what you said 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:19.200 and you were like, Hi, this is Josh. That's pretty good. 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.080 How are you doing? Are you doing? Man? We're gonna 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:25.120 have a great time at a Yeah. I mean Kirk's 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:34.120 coming up. Yeah, hev me rolling. It was good by 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.159 Well do you think Zack? Because that is that pretty good? 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:46.400 Pretty good. I had a whole conversation with COVID. It 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.880 was amazing. You have a lot of conversations in the 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:53.720 nine and a half hour drive. Uh. Me and Kirk 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:58.719 saved the world on our drive in New Mexico. So 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:06.280 I bet you did, oh twice? Yeah. Well, hey, Josh, 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:09.480 introduced yourself, give us us a little a little uh, 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:12.920 just your where you're from, your family, just a little 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:15.120 bit of history, just so we can kind of know 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:19.960 who you are. UM, Josh Ilderton. So Clay can pronounce 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:22.600 my name right, Obviously he's thought I was somebody else 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:27.360 the last couple of years. Born and raised in West Virginia. 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:34.160 UM military guy, UM veteran Marine Corps and got a 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:39.280 wife and a son. And I absolutely have a die 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:42.360 hard passion for anything outdoors. And I could care less 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:48.080 what it is. UM, I just like being outside. Um. 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:51.120 So you were in the military when you graduated from 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.640 high school? How long we're in the military five and 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:57.920 a half years. Originally was in for four and then 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:01.480 I signed an extension to go back over seas for 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:05.960 eight teen months, and UM then got out. And I 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:10.400 want blue blue collar guy. Um. I've got a construction 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:16.040 company and a welding fabrication shop, and I believe in 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:19.680 you know, everything you get you you go after, you 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:22.360 get paid for hard work. I mean, I believe in it. 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:24.880 If you get up early and every day and you 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:28.880 get after it, then you get rewarded for it. Um 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:32.760 and then the untamed you know, Kirk. Um, I brought 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:35.400 this idea, you know a couple of years ago about 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:39.840 the untamed, and I bought into it. And did you 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:43.080 guys know each other? We we we were acquaintances. Yeah, 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:46.640 we kinda uh my buddy Trace yea. And of course 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:48.520 you know if you watched our videos, you've seen Tracey 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:52.079 in the videos. He uh he was like, uh, hew, 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.800 do you want to go bear hunting? And uh that's 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:57.800 how I met Josh that way. Yeah, Kirk, go ahead 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:00.800 and introduce yourself so we can, right, Okay, Yeah, I 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:02.240 didn't want to get too far into it because I 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:04.840 was kind of part of the story. I guess. Um. 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:09.040 My name's Kirk Price. I'm also from uh West Virginia. 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:14.040 Um I have. I've been doing this video thing for 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:17.320 uh quite some time now. It started as a hobby 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:20.559 when I was probably in middle school. I was just 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:24.160 using my parents cameras, using cell phones, whatever I couldn't 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:28.720 get my hands on. And uh I got a anyways, 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:31.400 I started you know, building up quite a bit of footage, 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:34.840 and I got a job working for Buck Commander while 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:38.839 I was in college, and so, uh it was kind 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.199 of like an internship deal. I wasn't looking to do 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.880 it full time, um, but it was more of like 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:46.800 a you know, a life experience I couldn't turned down. 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:49.840 And so I went out there and I worked for 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:53.120 Buck Mander. I lived in Arkansas and uh, actually I 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:56.679 don't know. Yeah, I lived in Arkansas. Uh actually it's 0:09:56.679 --> 0:10:00.240 called do you know where Harding University is? A? Okay, 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.719 so I lived like right there, and seriously I believe it. 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:11.679 Yeah yeah, And uh so I got well, actually the 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:15.280 guys that I was filming and like I was headquartered 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:17.480 right there, but I would drive down to Louisiana. They're 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:20.280 there in uh Louisiana. So it was you know, I 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:23.880 was jumping back and forth across the line. Um. But yeah, 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:26.200 so I got my start to Buck Commander, and really 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:28.680 they taught me. You know, I went from just running 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:31.280 a camera and auto to really running a camera, you know, 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:36.520 really learning cameras and stuff. 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And and 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:49.480 that day was I mean, we we I believe we 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:51.880 treated bear and killed it and we had a really 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:53.440 good time. But I was like, man, I was like 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:56.040 that that Josh Kat. I was like, you know, he's 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:59.280 pretty cool. So we went about our ways and then 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:01.240 we wanting to start, you know, I was wanting to 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:04.000 do something and I was I didn't, you know, want 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:06.920 to get stagnant, and uh, you know, Tracey and I 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:09.600 started talking and we went to Josh, and I was like, hey, 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:12.200 you know, I started thinking, and then you know, I 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:17.400 realized West Virginia has a training season for Bears. That's 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:19.880 um all year long. I mean, you can run bear 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:22.880 anytime West Virginia. So I was like, huh. And then 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:25.960 this YouTube thing started. You know, I could tell that 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:28.800 it was going to take off. And and uh me, 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:31.120 you say YouTube thing? You mean you didn't have a 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:35.920 channel yet, know, you just spent YouTube in genera that platform. 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:38.839 I could tell something was there and and people were 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:42.800 probably gonna start going away from cable because none of 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:45.400 my buddies have cable anymore. And like, I feel like 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:47.760 my generation is kind of changing that, like we're going 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:51.360 to like fire sticks and rokup or whatever it's called 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.480 and stuff like that. So we went to Josh. Wait 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:56.640 a minute, you said my generation as if, like, Josh 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:58.480 and I are old? Is that what you is? That 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:01.240 what you bet? I kind of implying that, but I 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:04.560 wasn't going to directly say it. He opens doors for me, 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:08.320 and there's your stuff before you, sir, You go ahead. 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:13.000 We've been mistaken for father and son how many times? 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:19.680 A lot? I mean, oh yeah, kills me. We're going 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:23.040 to a gas station. We're going to gas station get 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:26.560 our biscuits before we go bear hunting. It well though, 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:28.240 they'll be like, oh, here's your dad's biscuits. There. I 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:33.560 don't know what you wanted. Well, if you had a beard, 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.160 you look a little bit older. Listen, that's what I listening. 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:38.800 I want a beard so bad. It's just not gonna happen. 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:40.320 They don't. I don't know if you've seen me trying 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:45.440 to grow one, but it's pretty good work, pretty patchy. Okay. Anyways, 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.200 we went, I just I kind of we figured out 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.200 that YouTube platform was was a good way to go 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:54.320 for us, and uh I knew. I mean I when 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:56.600 I went bear hunting, I literally was like, I don't 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:58.680 even I don't know if I've even seen a bear 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:02.000 hunting video, like how hunting video. So then I got 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:04.080 on YouTube and I was like bear hunting with hounds, 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:06.520 just some generic search, you know, And of course I 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:09.200 come across your videos and I was like, I was like, 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:11.440 this guy, you know, this is the only guy I've 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:13.200 seen doing any type of hound stuff. And it's not 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:14.960 like you were only doing hound or something. You did 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.120 a wide variety of bears, but you had some hound 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:19.680 hunting videos on there. I was like, huh, and the 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:21.520 ones that you had on there had done really well, 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:25.040 like views wise, So I was like, man, I was like, 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:27.160 we need for this YouTube, like we want to put 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:29.120 out a ton of content. And I was like, bear 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:31.920 hunting is a ton of content, Like it's interesting just 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:34.680 because you can do it so much. Training season is 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:37.040 all year long, twenty good days in the fall, like 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:39.520 a white tail rut, right, and for us, you know, 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:42.720 it's not about killing the bear. Um, it's about it's 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:44.960 about our dogs and the hounds. And so when we're 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:47.400 able to video, you know, people see our dogs progress 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.840 on you know, on video or seeing new dogs and 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:53.720 they ask us about them. It's just unlimited content and 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.960 so uh yeah, that's kind of how the Untamed got started. 0:15:57.000 --> 0:16:04.640 But yeah, so the when did you actually start the 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:13.160 YouTube channel? Um? Our first video was in Okay, so 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:19.880 just almost almost two years. So let me describe what 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:24.040 kind of the different styles of YouTube channels. To me, 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:27.760 you guys are like a classic YouTube channel, Like the 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:30.800 platform is really seems to be designed for people that 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:32.960 are producing a ton of content, would you agree, Cobe 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:40.960 I didn't have Colby introduced himself tech the um people. 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:49.320 People think I'm Colby's father, they don't. Yeah, yeah, I 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:51.840 gotta keep it trim light like, so it looks like 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:58.200 it's intentional. So the platform really seems to be geared 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.960 towards people that are producing a ton of content, like 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:04.879 putting out weekly stuff, you know, um in in you know, 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:08.040 the hunting public. That they kind of they didn't they 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:11.040 didn't pioneer that at all, but they they made it 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:14.840 real successful in the hunting space. Yeah, I don't think 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.080 that they pioneered it, but I'm gonna tell you right 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:19.159 now that they opened a lot of doors up for 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.480 because like Hushing had been on YouTube for I think 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:25.840 eleven years, eleven or twelve years, So I think that 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:32.879 they they're like original outdoor channel. Yeah, now what th 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:35.200 HP and I honestly we talked about it all time, 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:38.040 but we get in a buying on our channel because 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:42.359 of content, because Kirk is the editor, producer, the hunter, 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:46.600 the houndsman, dog handler, you know, everything you know, and 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:50.720 we're wearing all those hats. But YouTube reward you. We 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:55.199 can see a difference in YouTube when Kirk in the 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:57.919 office season, when Kirk's able to pound out the videos 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.920 and we're putting two videos out a week and working instant. Yeah, 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:03.199 then all of a sudden we start going to the 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:06.320 top of the food ladder. Yeah yeah yeah, and our subscribers, 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:09.879 our views, everything goes up. So if we miss a week. 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:13.320 So there's there's analytics that are working behind the scenes. 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:15.359 Like I think most people that would watch YouTube that 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:19.520 aren't creators YouTube creators, they might just think, well, if 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:22.000 you put a good video up, it's gonna get a 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:24.080 million views. If you put a bad video up, it's 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:28.080 gonna get a thousand views. It's not true. It's there's 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:33.119 there's there's algorithms and mechanisms at play that are bigger 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:37.399 than what YouTube even lets people know. But they do 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:43.080 reward people for consistent content. Um, they reward people for 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:46.320 the type of content I mean, like hunting stuff is 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:50.879 already at a back. It's it's like a step back 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:56.720 from their premium content. They penalize us because it's like 0:18:57.040 --> 0:19:00.760 sensational content. Like if we were creating I can't remember 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:03.080 the exact terminology, but I mean, if we were creating 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:07.520 like you know, like ballet videos, they would they would 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:11.480 much more freely distribute our stuff. We we we talked 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:15.200 about it yesterday on the web here, and it's funny 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:18.080 to bring up, but we talked about it. If if 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:23.920 Kirk would we talked about Moon and Truckers. What we 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:26.960 talked about Moon and Truckers got the road out here. 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:33.080 Can guarantee it. If we Moon Truckers and videoed it 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:37.360 and put it up, it would blow up. We'd get 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:41.959 millions of views and people would laugh. And but for 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:43.720 us it's it's not the right thing to do. So 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:50.320 we decided against it. You know. And then without door videos, 0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:52.440 you kind of take they would rather have that type 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:57.919 of content then an outdoor setting content. Yeah, like you know, 0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:02.480 more geared towards hunting. Uh, there's a there's a classification 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:04.840 and and and I've really studied into it when I 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:09.240 first got our YouTube channel, going, Um, there's a classification 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:12.160 that we are inside of there. I mean, they they 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:17.280 have ways to categorize creators and we're automatically and I 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:20.760 can't remember the exact details of it. Basically, our stuff 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:24.439 is already at a slight disadvantage from more stuff that 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:30.639 they would consider like benign content. Um, but I wanted 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:33.000 to say so, so you guys are producing kind of 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:35.240 like live action stuff. Like the whole the whole thing 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:39.040 is that you're producing content that like it's quickly coming 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:41.600 out to right, It's not so typically when you watch 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:44.440 a show on the Outdoor Channel, that stuff is filmed 0:20:44.760 --> 0:20:47.440 a year a year out, like from like two thousand 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:49.440 and eighteen, but it's two thousand nineteen, but you're watching 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:51.760 two thousand and eighteen footage, So they got that's why 0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:54.879 you got. You know, there's a lot more done to 0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:56.919 it and stuff. But the way we do it is 0:20:57.560 --> 0:20:59.800 I might film it tomorrow and put it up today, 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:03.439 and it's I mean, that's that's what that's why YouTube 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:06.000 is popular, right, I mean, that's why it works. Right. 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:09.800 And and you know I've seen um TV shows, uh 0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:13.280 you know, hunting shows that they'll take their episodes from 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:17.040 the show and then directly upload that same edited version 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:18.800 they put on the show and put it on YouTube. 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:21.920 It'll get like and these are like major like big 0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:25.720 money production TV shows on the Outdoor Channel, they'll put 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:28.080 it on YouTube and they'll get like two or three views. 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:30.400 And that's because the content and what what people want 0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:33.359 to watch from YouTube versus TV is completely different. And 0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:36.240 some people, you know, they can't understand that it's tough 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:39.400 to wrap your mind around. Yeah, but there's an authenticity 0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:42.280 factor that comes in when you're looking at something that 0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:45.840 has a time stamp that was from last week. Yeah. 0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:48.240 I mean when you when you watch it and you're like, man, 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:51.680 they filmed this last week, you know, and it feels 0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:58.080 it feels relevant, it feels like real time. I said 0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:01.520 partly just that all to say, what we're doing now 0:22:02.080 --> 0:22:05.600 is not very good for YouTube, even though it's working 0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:08.119 for us. We're getting to the point where we're trying 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:14.040 to make eight to ten kind of cinematic, polished, like 0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:18.159 the best you know, production that we can do in 0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:22.360 produce eight to ten maybe twelve videos a year. That's 0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:25.520 kind of our platform, and it actually doesn't work very 0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:29.320 good for YouTube. We would do better on like Netflix 0:22:29.440 --> 0:22:32.960 or or something like as an episode show. And that's 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:34.879 just the decision we made. You know, we don't have 0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:37.680 a U which I mean Netflix could be a route 0:22:37.680 --> 0:22:40.560 of the future. You know, well, boy, if anybody could 0:22:40.960 --> 0:22:44.879 play no, no, I mean, it is work. It's just 0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:48.360 a little different strategy when you know, you know, when 0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:52.320 we met last year, you were at twenty six thousand subscribers. 0:22:53.040 --> 0:22:56.600 When we talk last when you're you're right almost fifty now, yeah, yeah, 0:22:56.720 --> 0:23:00.680 so this working. I mean obviously, so something's working there 0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:03.399 and you're not doing the consistency. You're not hitting the 0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:08.600 consistency part of that algorithm to drive you up. But 0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:10.479 when you do put a video out, I'm sure that 0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:14.240 once people start watching it, then YouTube goes, hey, they're 0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:18.240 watching bar Hunt magazine videos. So they start clicking and 0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:21.199 start putting your thumbnail up above everybody else is for 0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:25.800 a while, and then Peter's off. I'm sure that they, yeah, 0:23:25.880 --> 0:23:28.879 start driving it back down. It's so interesting to me 0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:32.479 from a marketing perspective, all that stuff. But we had 0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:37.520 a video, well that bear video, the Roy Clark you know, 0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:42.200 uh Appalachian Laurel Mountain bear video. This last week it 0:23:42.320 --> 0:23:45.879 got like sixty five thousand views. Yeah, it was dead 0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:50.960 for a year, I mean, just gaining like views a month. 0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:53.280 I can't tell you why that happens either, it will 0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:55.719 random does that happened too? It goes. It happens all 0:23:55.760 --> 0:23:58.439 the time. Now. The only one that stayed consistently growing 0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:00.520 is the one we have with every three inion views. 0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:03.600 It just keeps going, keeps going, keeps going. It's not 0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:06.520 extremely fast, but it's also not slow. I mean, it 0:24:06.640 --> 0:24:11.040 just it doesn't stop. And um, the biggest reason why is, uh, 0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:14.800 what I believe is the thumbnail. I think the thumbnail 0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:17.480 when it comes to YouTube videos, and that's what people 0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:20.640 will put all their work into the video. But when 0:24:20.640 --> 0:24:23.120 we first got started, we actually talked to someone locally 0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:26.359 and he said, if you spend you know, three hours 0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:28.280 editing the video, you need to spend two hours on 0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:31.280 your thumbnail. Which you know that's probably overdoing it. He 0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:34.040 was making a point to me, and it's stuck to it. 0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:37.200 Stuck with me because I figured that out. So I'll 0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:40.439 think of a you know, my when I'm out there 0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:42.960 hunting or I'm out there doing whatever, the whole time, 0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:46.119 I'm thinking what would be a catchy thumbnail, because the 0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:48.440 first thing you gotta get someone to do is click 0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:50.560 on the video before anything. It doesn't matter how good 0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:52.560 the video is if they don't click on it. Yeah, 0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:57.639 the our our best videos have good thumbnails and that 0:24:57.640 --> 0:25:02.960 that usually is a big part of it. But well, uh, 0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:08.159 so you're you're working full time, and so the un 0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:12.080 teamed guys, you guys turkey hunt, you're deer hunting, your 0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:14.920 bear hunting. Those are the main things you're doing, right, Yeah, 0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:18.280 Turkey bear deer, and then we will travel to like 0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:21.440 like we just got back from Mountain Lawn. Yeah yeah, yeah. 0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:24.360 But now the new Mexico stuff. Y'all just put out 0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:30.240 that this year. When when was that decent Thanksgiving week? Yeah? Man, 0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:33.200 that was awesome. Well, the one video was from last 0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:36.200 year when the very first one, so I saved did 0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:39.960 something we normally won't do, saved a video from two 0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:41.760 thousand and eight. Well it was two thousand nineteen in 0:25:41.840 --> 0:25:47.560 January last year, and and uh, I saved it because 0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:49.160 I knew we were going to go back out there. 0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:51.360 So I was gonna let that video kick things off 0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:54.879 for the new set of videos, hoping it was just 0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:57.199 kind of a shot in the dark, hoping that this 0:25:57.280 --> 0:26:00.520 year panned out, which I was guessing it was going to, Yeah, 0:26:00.560 --> 0:26:03.159 because we just went in with a different strategy. Yeah, 0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:09.600 and it panned out so nice. Well for for anybody 0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:12.760 that's not seen your white tail stuff, then you are 0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:16.919 killing some incredible deer there in West Virginia. Is it 0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:25.600 West Virginia? I thought we were hunting up in Kentucky. Yeah, yeah, 0:26:26.680 --> 0:26:31.560 no it Uh, we we had a good year the 0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:33.480 first mean, I was just surprised that the quality of 0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:36.800 bucks that you all pretty consistently see, right, I think 0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:39.880 that surprised a lot of people. It does. It does 0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:42.919 because you don't when you think of West Virginia, you 0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:44.680 don't think of big white. You don't think of white 0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:50.080 to hunt. No, nobody does. Yeah, Um, especially in the 0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:52.600 in the industry now and then the spot in stock 0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:55.600 I'm like you guys are doing, describe describe a hunt 0:26:55.640 --> 0:27:03.880 in those places you are hunting, Josh, Um, miserable. Miserable, No, 0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:09.600 not miserable. In the train it's and it's fast. I mean, 0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:13.520 you know how in the Midwest you've got these big 0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:17.240 valleys and canyons and yeah, it'll take you all day 0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:18.720 to walk from one side of the other. And in 0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:22.199 southern West Virginia where we hunt, I mean you'll be 0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:26.000 the top of a ridge in the creek and on 0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:29.159 the other other side of the ridge an hour and 0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:31.800 a half. You know, it's it's straight up, straight down, 0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:36.280 back down. Yeah, and we're hunting. And then we hunting 0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:40.440 an old old coal mine and reclamation. So it's kind 0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:45.000 of like so it's open when they when they get 0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:47.879 down with the reclamation part of it. I mean, it 0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:50.240 kind of reminds you of the Midwest of kind of 0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:54.119 the rolling hills and the kind of prairie until it 0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:56.159 grows up. Now, when it's it grows up, it's just 0:27:56.240 --> 0:28:01.640 a big forest. Call. So you're you're nasty, thick hunting 0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:03.600 time the way you are hunting, and that I guess 0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:07.360 is sort of limited. Well that stuff grow back, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:10.520 So like it's kind of strange. But like just because 0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:13.159 this area is awesome right now, we're able to and 0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:15.720 not that it gets bad, but you're you're hunting style 0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:18.920 has to change because it's just like our clear cuts. 0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:20.960 I mean, you'll probably have clear cuts. I mean, we're 0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:23.760 they're they're cutting and they plant pines. Maybe you don't, 0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:26.159 I don't know, but in Arkansas they do that. And 0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:29.600 then you know, you'll have five six years before the 0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:32.280 pine trees grow up so tall that it's just a thicket, right, 0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:33.920 you know, but before you might be able to see 0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:37.600 three yards and too. You know when they say they 0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:41.640 freshly uh you know, reclaiming area something, well they'll use 0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:44.480 like hydro seed and you know they'll be clover and stuff, 0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:47.640 and so you know, there's it's almost like a mountain 0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:50.040 food plot that we don't have the luxury of ever 0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:53.840 hunting other than when something like that happens. They're still 0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:56.240 mining there and doing stuff like that. Oh yeah, so 0:28:56.680 --> 0:28:59.880 there'll be new places you can. Well, the surface my 0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:04.600 is going is going away. Just they're just taking they're 0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:08.600 peeling the tops off these mountains. Yeah, and then and 0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:12.520 then they put it back, but just not to that. 0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:14.840 So if you haven't seen their videos, these guys are 0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:18.840 glassing on tops of these big ridges and seeing seeing 0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:22.880 across big valleys and spotting deer and then moving around 0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:27.880 and and that's what you know on our videos. It 0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:34.600 is so hard to show the viewers. Kirk does a 0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:37.800 great job in in a fifteen minute span to show 0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:41.280 the viewers that what a day's like. But we might 0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:45.200 last for three hours and not see anything. Yeah, and 0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:49.200 you just get headaches and it might not see anything. 0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:51.200 It's just like the video of him we were talking 0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:53.080 about it last night of him spotting is talking that 0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:57.200 that Bucky he shot in the early season. I mean 0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:59.600 they laid down the human lane. They laid down there 0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:03.680 for three hours in the rain, sixty yards from this 0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:08.200 deer and stayed right there until the deer stood up. 0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:12.680 But you can't put that three hours in there. Nobody's 0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:16.880 gonna watch it. Um So it's hard to, yeah, to 0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:19.880 show really how difficult it is. Yeah, in the time 0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:23.720 and the in the in the misery and you know, 0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:27.760 not misery because you're after loving what you do, right, 0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:31.520 But I'm saying it's sometimes it's it's really tough. But 0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:35.960 I mean we hunt on the I think introduced Kirk 0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:37.720 to hunting on the ground. Yeah, I mean I didn't. 0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:41.000 I grew up hunting like, uh what typically most people do, 0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:44.880 Like a hunted a piece of private property. It was 0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:48.040 just like a basically like a family farm. We had 0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:51.680 you know, stands here on that point, you know that 0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:54.320 cut through whatever, you know, the typical spots like that, 0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:58.320 and uh it my my style of hunting was what 0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:00.880 I would think like most p people do, you know, 0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:04.080 not not what we're doing now. What we're doing now 0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:07.160 is like the Midwest, like the it's like multier hunting 0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:11.240 or something. That's fun. That's what it's so crazy about it, right, 0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:13.400 it's a it's so I mean, it's extremely fun. Is 0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:16.040 there a lot of that kind of country over there? Um? 0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:19.320 A decent amount. Yeah, I mean there's it's not it's 0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:20.840 not all over the place. You got to be in 0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:25.600 the right areas. But yeah, yeah, so I mean it's like, well, 0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:27.280 I could guess that in the stand and hope something 0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:29.560 comes to this funnel, or I can go out there 0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:31.360 and chase them down in gilly suits and try to 0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:33.880 make it happen. You know, were you hunting like that 0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:36.600 your whole life? Yeah, I've hunted on the ground. I 0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:39.240 think I've killed two. Two of my dear have a 0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:42.560 tree stand. Most of your hunting was off the ground. Yeah, 0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:44.360 we taught you to do that. Did you just start? Know? 0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:47.520 When I got out of the service um Apacan buddies 0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:51.960 with a guy named Keith Alfrey, and uh, we started 0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:56.239 hal hunting together wild boar and we started hunting them 0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:59.880 on the ground. And I was watching him hunt on 0:31:59.880 --> 0:32:03.000 the ground then just like spotting stock hunting them. Yeah, dogs, No, 0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:06.760 you can't hunting hawks with dogs there in West Virginia. 0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:08.959 But just hunting on the ground and jumping them up 0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:13.920 and then stalking them after you jump them. And but 0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:17.200 then we started deer hunting, and I started deer hunting 0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:20.920 with him, and he would he would walk, grunt, he'd 0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:26.960 blind snort ways, um everything. And I was like, and 0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:30.959 then we started killing deer. Nick we we we doubled 0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:33.720 up one day and I was like hooked. We killed 0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:36.680 two pope and young deer on the ground on one day. 0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:39.640 And I was like, man, this is the best thing ever. 0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:43.520 And you see so much. That's the greatest thing, you know. 0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:47.640 I'm not real keen on. I mean I do it 0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:49.840 because I think that there are certain times that you 0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:53.520 need to hang in the tree all day long. Um 0:32:54.040 --> 0:32:56.240 Like if I mean, like you know, Ohio or something, 0:32:57.240 --> 0:32:58.600 we don't have the same terrain that we're do in 0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:01.960 West Virginia. UM, So I think that you know, there's 0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:04.200 times that hunt on the ground, but you see so 0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:09.640 much and you see something dear opportunities. It's just like 0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:11.560 Kirk said, you can you can sit in this stand, 0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:13.520 in this saddle or wherever on this ridge on this 0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:15.160 point and wait for a deer to come. Or you 0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:18.040 can go out there and you can see there and 0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:20.840 try to make it happen. Now, you're your chances of 0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:22.960 getting a shot in that saddle, in that tree stand 0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:28.920 are higher if a deer comes through, higher percentage chance 0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:35.600 of Yes, absolutely I think may sit there for three days. 0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:39.920 So on the ground, I don't think that the success 0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:45.000 rate of getting a shot it is lower. But you'll learn, 0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:48.040 you're you will learn a lot about the game's terrain. 0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:51.560 It's more fun and it's and it works for it. 0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:54.920 Like we said, it ties into content because now we're 0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:57.000 getting Yeah, we spooked the buck, but we got a 0:33:57.000 --> 0:33:59.360 YouTube video out of it, you know, you know, and 0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:01.400 we don't care if we spoke a buck. And we're 0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:03.320 not like most. I mean, I get the thrill of 0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:06.720 I'm you know, I hang chalk cameras and stuff, but 0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:09.960 I'll take it, you know, a good buck, you know, 0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:11.440 I'll shoot it. I mean, it doesn't have to be 0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:13.360 a monster. It doesn't have to be that deer that 0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:17.680 I'm hunting. You know where the business we're in, uh 0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:21.040 we are, you know, Josh always says we're opportunists. You know, 0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:23.400 we don't. We don't pass up good bucks. We care 0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:26.680 less you know, uh you know about killing big giants 0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:30.800 or something, but we will. I mean, you know, everybody, everybody, 0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:35.560 everybody wants to kill Crockett just to give an idea 0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:38.040 of how good some of these deer are. How big 0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:41.520 was that dear that trace killed this year. Oh that 0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:45.839 was I believe it. And uh, it grossed almost one 0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:50.960 almost one night. What are you serious? Yeah, in West Virginia. 0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:58.799 And yeah, you know those pictures. I thought, I mean, 0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:01.399 just because of where it was from, I thought, there's 0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:03.160 no way that deer is as big as it looks. 0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:05.439 I mean, nothing against them. And I didn't. I knew 0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:08.160 it wasn't a trick photo. It was just like, that's 0:35:08.200 --> 0:35:11.439 a huge deer, that deer um in that area, that 0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:14.080 there was one killed a few years ago. Um that 0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:16.439 scored two at three And we believe that might that 0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:18.160 that dear has some relation to it, whether it's his 0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:21.359 father that he didn't video that he did not know. Yeah, 0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:25.560 he was just hunting. I mean, Tracey's kind of took 0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:28.920 a step back because of his works. He's a pipeliner 0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:33.200 so and he's seven days a week, so he took 0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:36.600 kind of a a step back from the video. So 0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:41.080 that's his second boom. Crockett deer in West Virginia. That's incredible. Yeah, 0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:45.440 Zach's killed one or two, he's killed two boot and Crocketts. 0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:48.719 Is that in West Virginia. Another buddy of ours just 0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:52.759 killed too. Bootm. Crockett's his brother killed one Bootom Crockett. Um, 0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:58.520 yeah you got killed. His brother killed one this year. Yeah. Yeah. 0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:05.400 It is a great uh white tail. And it for 0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:11.719 the people listening we hunt in bow only county? Is 0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:15.120 that because there's so many people there? Why did they 0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:18.839 do there's four counties in West Virginia that are bow only. 0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:24.480 There's no muzzleload or no no firearms whatsoever. They closed 0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:28.600 in nineteen seventy nine because of the dear population. Um, 0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:32.680 there were no dear so it wasn't a safety concern. Well, 0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:36.239 I think part of it was safety. Um, there were 0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:39.880 there had been a couple of shooting accidents. There was 0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:42.799 a safety concern and low deer population. And then low 0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:47.160 deer population there was no hunting at all. No, yeah, 0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:50.279 I mean it didn't no bow hunting anything. And then 0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:53.040 they and what they did was because of how low 0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:56.279 the dear population was. We talked about hogs. They brought 0:36:56.320 --> 0:37:03.640 in wild hogs ums and and that's what people get. 0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:06.319 You're like, uh, you think, like why wouldn't they let 0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:08.160 you know, everywhere else in the country. You go, They're like, 0:37:08.320 --> 0:37:10.839 uh uh, wipe the hogs out, you know, kill them 0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:12.640 all you know, trap them that you know, you got 0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:16.200 that attitude towards them. But our hogs are like they're 0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:19.520 supposed to be on wild, so they don't they don't 0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:23.440 spread like those Ferrell hogs do. And so you know, 0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:25.120 I don't know how long the hog has been there, 0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:27.040 but they're still in the same area they put them 0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:29.240 in years and years ago. And they brought those hogs 0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:32.960 in because there was nothing else for people to hunt. Really, yeah, 0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:37.000 y'all just do things a little different West Virginia, don't you. Yeah? Yeah, 0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:41.600 Like how many states bring hogs and release them? Oh man, 0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:45.480 I had no idea. Yeah, yeah, And so that those 0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:50.920 bow only counties, Um, the deer have time, yes, And 0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:53.480 that's the number one that that That explains a lot 0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:55.680 to me. I mean, I mean, and you let a 0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:58.160 deer get old. It's not only so the rest of 0:37:58.160 --> 0:38:00.400 the part of the state is three bucks. You can 0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:04.000 kill three bucks, but only is one buck. So you've 0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:08.160 got you know some really, I mean, people will be like, oh, 0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:10.360 they've brought deer in from I've heard all kinds. They 0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:12.920 brought deer in from Wisconsin. They've brought deer in for 0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:16.200 down there. But that's not the case. Um, the deer 0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.320 are they just have more time to you know, typically 0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:23.719 you're not and it's not you're you're taking to all 0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:26.520 the right equation. Yeah, that's exactly right. So you're taking 0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:30.160 a place that the dear one have time to grow. 0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:36.239 And number two, it's hard as heck hunting down there. Uh, 0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:40.040 I mean it, it is. Access wise, it's tough. If 0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:42.960 just someone you know, someone comes down there and tries 0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:45.960 to hunt, it's a good luck. Yeah, if you don't 0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:48.200 know the right you know the right thing, the right people, 0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:51.200 the right I mean, you will learn quickly. If you 0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:53.680 and Kobe would come down or to bow hunt, obviously 0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:58.840 you all would happen in with us. But it's not 0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:03.319 a resident at the nation, right, you might you might 0:39:03.440 --> 0:39:06.920 run into crazy Billy up the Holliday. You might bring 0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:11.800 come out with a shotgun just because Yeah, very little. 0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:14.680 I say the same thing about Arkansas to keep people 0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:18.800 out there. We're very we have secret we have quink. 0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:22.640 We have very little little public land. You don't have 0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:26.120 public land. We have very little. Okay, Now a lot 0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:28.839 of West Virginia has a lot of public am I right? 0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:31.840 And like say the county, I'm I'm from Boone County. 0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:34.839 I don't think there's actually any public land in that time. 0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:37.879 I see. That's surprising to me. Yeah, and I think 0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:39.840 that we, you know, Boone County actually might be the 0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:44.200 only county in the entire state. That's cool, man, that's 0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:46.160 all news to me. I didn't I didn't realize that. 0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:51.680 So that's why the quality of deer is where it's at. Yeah, 0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:55.120 in those southern four counties. They call him the Southern 0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:59.960 four hunting only counties. Oh that's cool man, Um, that's cool. 0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:04.120 So that that's what gives them time and there everything 0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:08.480 all game really flourishes down there. Do you have real 0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:11.759 good turkey hunting? Oh? Yeah? Man? How many? This is 0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:14.560 how I know. This is my gauge. I mean maybe 0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:17.040 it's everybody's gauge, but I know what I would tell 0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:19.600 you if I was talking about Arkansas, perfect morning in 0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:23.879 the spring, standing on a ridge, bartel hoot, how many 0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:27.160 gobblers you gonna hear? Gobble? You might not hear him 0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:32.200 none less depends on that morning. I mean, I mean, 0:40:32.239 --> 0:40:37.399 would that be some places where you'd hear oh? Yeah, absolutely, yeah. 0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:40.439 I mean I'm talking thing in the world. Okay, would 0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:43.080 you would you hear? Would you hear twenty. No, I 0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:47.040 don't think I have a piece of property, um, now 0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:51.680 that is loaded with turkeys. I mean, like I he's 0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:55.200 never took me down there. Yeah, this is a secret 0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:59.360 piece of property. Okay, they know what county it's in, 0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:06.280 hel wrong county. But a lot of people too about Arkansas. 0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:10.800 Don't worry. I know you're lying, but it is. I 0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:13.400 mean it's actually kind of different terrain and it's part 0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:16.080 of the reason why. Um, it's like rolling it more 0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:19.040 rolling hills and stuff. Which is I prefer hunting that 0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:22.839 turkey hunting then that straight up and down you know. Um, 0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:25.880 but I mean it really is. I mean I tagged 0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:29.000 out the first two days season. Uh, I made turkeys. 0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:33.480 Can you kill too? Just to so? I mean he 0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:37.239 you killed one out there? He missed one too, Yeah, 0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:44.040 the first turkey ever missed. I'll get you. Yeah, you 0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:48.320 could that you could. You could hear tin twill birds 0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:50.839 for sure in the mornings. You know there's a lot 0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:55.359 of birds in West Virginia. Josh, what's your what's your 0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:58.239 favorite thing to hunt? Well, let me let me let 0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:03.160 me back up from that question. I think, uh, I 0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:07.360 think you guys kind of represent kind of the the 0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:12.640 true Southern woodsman in that I find a lot of 0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:15.600 Western guys maybe, and that's the wrong way to say it. 0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:20.080 My dad wanted me to be a He called it 0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:22.160 a pH d. He said, I want you to have 0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:25.960 a PhD in Arkansas hunting. He wanted me to be 0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:31.239 a deer hunter, turkey hunter, bear hunter, you know, like 0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:34.719 do all these things? Well, know how to you know, 0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:37.480 just be a woodsman that could hunt all year round. 0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:41.640 That that's the way I perceive you. It's somebody that's 0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:45.960 doing a lot of stuff. Am I righting? Yeah? I 0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:49.720 mean I are you a good turkey hunter? I killed turkeys? 0:42:50.280 --> 0:42:53.800 Am I the best collar in the world? No? Do 0:42:53.960 --> 0:42:57.080 I get up every morning? Do I hunt until legal 0:42:57.200 --> 0:43:02.359 time every day? Absolutely? You do? Does that present opportunities? 0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:05.960 It does? That goes back to the hard work I 0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:08.480 believe in it. I mean, am I the best turkey collar? No? 0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:12.839 But do I kill turkeys every year? I? Absolutely will? Yeah. 0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:14.560 I love smashing the heads. You get a little bit 0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:17.719 excited when you kill them, don't you. Yeah. Back to 0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:20.080 the three million views, That's probably part of the reason 0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:22.279 why Alice video does good because I don't think I've 0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:24.640 ever seen someone freak out like you did on a 0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:32.680 few days. Uh yeah, yeah, baby, you know, and then 0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:36.960 you know I get excited. I mean, um, I love turkey, 0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:41.359 I mean I love it all. Um, if I if 0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:44.600 if I could do it twelve months out of the year, 0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:47.359 I would, I mean, which which we hunt probably nine 0:43:47.480 --> 0:43:51.080 or ten months out of the year because we predator hunt. 0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:52.879 I mean, as soon as we get back from here, 0:43:53.160 --> 0:43:56.120 you know, we're gonna start predator hunting and we'll do 0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:58.520 that for a couple of months and then back into 0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:03.720 turkey hunting and the um training season after turkey season, 0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:10.960 where what's your favorite? Um, what's your favorite thing? You 0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:12.840 gotta have one that you wouldn't Actually you can just 0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:17.400 pick one. Do you just get one time of year? 0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:22.160 I cut in though it really I just I could 0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:24.200 care less if I'm even hunting anything. I just like 0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:32.520 being outside. Um yeah, I mean yeah, you know I'm not. 0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:36.279 I like being out there. I mean I love turkey hunting. 0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:39.879 I love dear hunting. I love my hounds. Yeah, there's 0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:44.720 no better. There's nothing better in those in those tide 0:44:44.760 --> 0:44:48.000 hollis in southern West Virginia. I'm telling you right now, Clay, 0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:51.640 there's not a better sound than a pack of five 0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:54.840 head of hands coming through it and you hear you 0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:56.759 hear them from way off and it's just like a 0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:01.840 it's all together. And then as they get closer and 0:45:01.880 --> 0:45:05.240 closer than you start haying, Hey, that's gage, that's that's bliss, 0:45:05.320 --> 0:45:09.600 that's you know, you start hearing all the separate barks 0:45:09.640 --> 0:45:12.279 and it's I'm telling you man. And then in those 0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:16.040 tight I mean, it's just a great sound. I love 0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:20.839 hearing that. And um, and then when I got into 0:45:20.920 --> 0:45:24.720 hound hunting, Um, I started doing it, you know, twenty 0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:28.600 years ago, but when I started getting my own dogs 0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:32.120 and my son, that's the big thing with me too 0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:35.040 on a hound hunting is it it's such an easy 0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:39.920 way to get your kids outside. Um My son has 0:45:40.000 --> 0:45:42.680 been He went to his first tree. He was almost 0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:44.719 three years old. He was doing diapers. I mean, I 0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:47.200 had a diaper in my back pocket and wet white, 0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:51.480 you know when we went to the tree. And and 0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:54.719 to this day he absolutely like he's never killed a bear, 0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:58.440 and I don't know how many he's seen. But we 0:45:58.560 --> 0:46:00.400 have so many kids and it's just it's such an 0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:03.640 easy way to introduce kids to the outdoors. Because of 0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:06.319 attention Spain. There's always something happening when you're head hunting, 0:46:06.800 --> 0:46:08.800 and if it is, if there is a don't have 0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:10.440 to be quiet, don't have to worry about scent, you 0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:12.799 don't have to work camouflages. But what I've told them 0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:14.440 because when I was working at Buck Commander, I mean 0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:16.080 I was filming Duck Commander two, I was like, this 0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:18.239 is our duck hunting, Like what they do? You know 0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:20.080 you have to sit there and beetles still when you've 0:46:20.080 --> 0:46:22.879 got ducks flying in whatever. But it's so relaxed. Yeah, 0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:25.000 there's other people involved. I was like, that's a good 0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:28.000 disc this version of duck hunting. And because we really 0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:29.960 don't waterfoul hunt at all. I mean you know some 0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:32.560 people do in West Virginia, but it's very, very minimal. 0:46:33.719 --> 0:46:36.279 But I can answer your question. My favorite is hound 0:46:36.360 --> 0:46:39.160 hunting for real, for real, And I see that surprises 0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:40.960 me because you didn't even you didn't grow up with 0:46:41.040 --> 0:46:45.000 hound right, really like better than deer hunting. Absolutely do 0:46:45.200 --> 0:46:47.879 deer hunting. I get stressed out and stuff when I'm 0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:51.040 hound hunting. I mean I I've I'm obsessed with it 0:46:51.200 --> 0:46:57.200 right now. I mean now I love he Yeah, the 0:46:57.320 --> 0:47:01.200 day that he came hunting with us with the crazy 0:47:01.280 --> 0:47:03.800 guy when he was the crazy guy, and he I 0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:06.200 will I could say, I could probably answer that for 0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:10.640 you and tell you that your favorite because he's doing 0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:13.000 something every day with the hounds. Yeah, I mean every 0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:15.640 like that. The other day we killed a bobcat with 0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:19.800 our hounds in West Virginia. Um, and then you know, 0:47:19.960 --> 0:47:21.960 the next night I was coon hunting, you know, with 0:47:22.120 --> 0:47:25.799 them same dogs. Like we don't will you call our 0:47:25.920 --> 0:47:29.520 dogs meat dogs? Meat dogs? There's there's two things we 0:47:29.560 --> 0:47:31.480 don't want them to run well to genera, you know, 0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:33.680 we don't want them to run deer and Cootie's He's like, 0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:38.240 but I'll hunt mine on bobcat, uh, cons, bears whatever, 0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:42.560 take them to New Mexico for lines. Yeah. Yeah, man, 0:47:42.680 --> 0:47:45.160 that's that is really cool to hear. Yeah, that's cool 0:47:45.200 --> 0:47:47.719 to hear. You know. The so we can't run big 0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:51.200 game in Arkansas, but we coon hunt and my my 0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:56.040 dogs all their litter mates and all the lineage of 0:47:56.200 --> 0:47:58.759 my plots of big game dogs. So I kind of 0:47:58.800 --> 0:48:00.360 have I feel like I've got a hand ending the 0:48:00.440 --> 0:48:04.640 big game dog, you know, but coon hunting for us 0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:10.160 all the I mean, I've taken I don't even want 0:48:10.160 --> 0:48:13.520 to say a number because I don't. I mean, fifty 0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:18.040 plus maybe a hundred people that have never hunted coon 0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:20.600 hunting with us over the last four years. I mean, 0:48:21.160 --> 0:48:23.560 it's and it's a it's a different introduction to people 0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:27.040 because it's uh, you know, I mean it's not the classic, 0:48:27.520 --> 0:48:29.520 but it's not the typical hunt that people think about. 0:48:29.520 --> 0:48:32.200 It is a little different. But I've got a I've 0:48:32.239 --> 0:48:34.640 got a spiel that I tell everybody while we're driving 0:48:34.760 --> 0:48:37.520 to where we're going hunting. I mean, I I make 0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:39.920 I don't care if it's an adult. I'm like, I've 0:48:39.960 --> 0:48:42.759 got a two part spiel that I'm gonna give you. First, 0:48:42.960 --> 0:48:44.920 first of it's about plot hounds, and the second of 0:48:45.000 --> 0:48:48.560 it's about coon hunting. And I talked to him about striking, trailing, 0:48:48.760 --> 0:48:51.760 locating tree and talk about I mean, people don't know anything. 0:48:51.840 --> 0:48:54.000 They think your dogs out there looking for a coon, 0:48:54.520 --> 0:48:57.400 like literally see in a coon and chasing it and 0:48:57.480 --> 0:48:59.359 trying to you know what. I'm like, No, they're they're 0:48:59.400 --> 0:49:01.880 trailing ground scent and there, you know, talk to him 0:49:01.880 --> 0:49:03.960 about a layoup. Anyway, I have a I have a 0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:08.520 pretty polished spield that I give everybody. But but I've 0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:12.520 never taken anyone coon hunting that had a bad experience, 0:49:12.640 --> 0:49:15.279 you know. I mean, it's it's social, it's fun, it's 0:49:15.360 --> 0:49:18.279 exciting to be on the woods at night. Um. But 0:49:18.680 --> 0:49:20.320 it I mean, when I think about the number of 0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:23.239 people I've introduced to bow hunting white tail deer, it's 0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:26.480 a very small it's a very small number because it's 0:49:26.960 --> 0:49:30.279 it's such a specific I mean, they've got to be 0:49:30.440 --> 0:49:32.680 proficient with a weapon, they've got to be able to 0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:35.399 store meat, and you know that they're not just gonna 0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:38.480 kill a deer. Those number, those numbers will will continue 0:49:38.520 --> 0:49:43.040 to decrease unless we do a better job at introducing Yeah, 0:49:43.040 --> 0:49:48.600 because it's not easy to introduce somebody to white tail hunt. Um. 0:49:48.920 --> 0:49:51.600 It's not easy to introduce somebody to turkey in when 0:49:51.640 --> 0:49:55.280 you can take them out. Yeah, and we've took several 0:49:55.320 --> 0:49:59.279 people out turkey hunting, Um, but it's not as easy 0:49:59.360 --> 0:50:02.600 as taking them up whether you're coon hunting. It would 0:50:02.600 --> 0:50:06.520 be easy taking somebody out of cat hunting. Yeah. You know, 0:50:06.600 --> 0:50:08.080 I think a lot of these people too. I mean, like, 0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:11.560 of to all the people that have coon hunting with me, say, 0:50:11.760 --> 0:50:14.040 most of those people aren't gonna be hunters. I mean 0:50:14.160 --> 0:50:17.160 honestly that I'm not. They're not probably gonna be hunters, 0:50:17.280 --> 0:50:21.359 but some of them will be. But they they at 0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:24.160 least have a frame of reference for the rest of 0:50:24.200 --> 0:50:26.200 their life. And a lot of these people are kids, 0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:29.560 and at some point they're gonna go, here's something about 0:50:29.640 --> 0:50:32.080 hunters and they go, yeah, I used to hunt with 0:50:32.200 --> 0:50:35.880 Mr Clay and Shepherd, and you know, he'll have a 0:50:36.080 --> 0:50:40.600 positive image inside of his worldview for hunting because he 0:50:40.680 --> 0:50:44.319 knew somebody. And you know, I mean there's benefiting. There's 0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:46.399 been a you know, we talked about recruitment and people 0:50:46.480 --> 0:50:48.920 sticking into hunting, which is what we want, you know, 0:50:49.080 --> 0:50:52.040 I mean, we want someone that goes hunting and becomes 0:50:52.080 --> 0:50:54.600 a hunter, kind of an autonomous hunter on their own. 0:50:54.719 --> 0:50:57.719 You know. But even if you take somebody hunting and 0:50:57.719 --> 0:51:01.600 they have a positive experience, that's a benefit for us too, 0:51:01.680 --> 0:51:04.480 because the people that are going to ultimately make decisions 0:51:05.000 --> 0:51:07.680 for us and hunting are the people who aren't hunters. 0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:12.239 But if they had I mean, even these people, these 0:51:12.320 --> 0:51:13.959 kids go you know, we took a bunch of people, 0:51:14.000 --> 0:51:17.000 a bunch of kids hunting around Christmas time. Well, they 0:51:17.040 --> 0:51:19.880 were talking about that at their Christmas and maybe they 0:51:19.920 --> 0:51:21.960 were talking that about that with their cousins who never 0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:24.279 knew about hunters, and you know, it just it's just 0:51:24.400 --> 0:51:27.520 a positive thing, like just just kind of a buzz 0:51:27.600 --> 0:51:30.799 inside their world that we went cool nuting last week hunting. Yeah, 0:51:30.880 --> 0:51:34.279 that was great, was fun. That's a positive thing because 0:51:34.280 --> 0:51:36.040 those people all of a sudden, they're like, well maybe 0:51:36.120 --> 0:51:40.040 maybe hunters aren't Barbara, you know, the the second tier people, right, Yeah, 0:51:40.120 --> 0:51:42.640 so there's there's benefits inside of that stuff, even though 0:51:42.640 --> 0:51:46.120 we're probably not recruiting. But I mean everything said there 0:51:46.200 --> 0:51:47.920 you yet the nail on ahead. I mean, that was 0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:51.360 you're exactly right. Yeah, something I'd like to touch on. 0:51:51.440 --> 0:51:53.920 You were talking about, um, you're you know, you're getting 0:51:53.960 --> 0:51:58.040 to um. You said, like like guys out out west 0:51:58.480 --> 0:52:01.920 and they kind of focus on this is changing subjects here, 0:52:02.000 --> 0:52:04.239 but they kind of focus on like just white tail 0:52:04.320 --> 0:52:06.640 or something. And there's people like where we live that 0:52:06.840 --> 0:52:09.759 just focus on white tail, and I feel like they 0:52:09.840 --> 0:52:12.360 are I was the same way. I mean, I just was. 0:52:12.560 --> 0:52:16.160 I was a proud white tail you know, big buck hunter, 0:52:16.640 --> 0:52:20.319 but I was missing out on so much different hunting 0:52:20.360 --> 0:52:22.759 styles when I got introduced to hound hunting, and I'm like, 0:52:22.880 --> 0:52:25.000 these guys are just white to hunt and I'm like, listen, 0:52:25.200 --> 0:52:27.320 it's fun and all guys, but you're missing out on 0:52:27.360 --> 0:52:30.839 a great hunting experience. And uh, I think, I mean, 0:52:30.920 --> 0:52:33.040 I think more people and when we try to, like 0:52:33.120 --> 0:52:35.000 we said, we try to bring people hunting, but if 0:52:35.040 --> 0:52:36.680 more people would try it and they would be like wow, 0:52:36.960 --> 0:52:38.920 especially hunters, you know, they're like, wow, this is not 0:52:38.960 --> 0:52:41.240 what I thought. It was. Like this is fun because 0:52:41.280 --> 0:52:43.320 you find a lot of you know, just white tail hunters, 0:52:43.440 --> 0:52:45.000 but also you know there's a lot of like just 0:52:45.239 --> 0:52:48.439 coon hunters and just bear hunters, and like you see 0:52:48.480 --> 0:52:51.040 on our YouTube channel, we try to do it all. 0:52:51.600 --> 0:52:54.000 I mean, that's what man. I think. I think we're 0:52:54.040 --> 0:52:56.040 pretty diverse fund. I mean, if you if you look 0:52:56.200 --> 0:52:59.600 on other people's YouTube channel and there's a lot of 0:52:59.640 --> 0:53:04.719 great animals out there, but they're focused on white tail 0:53:05.200 --> 0:53:11.520 in Turkey or they're elk hunters, and we we want 0:53:12.520 --> 0:53:14.360 with the End Team, we kind of just wanted to 0:53:14.440 --> 0:53:18.160 be um, we're not focused on anything. We're just focused 0:53:18.200 --> 0:53:21.680 on the outdoors and in our way of living. I mean, 0:53:21.960 --> 0:53:25.480 I feel like I've introduced Kirk to several things. Since 0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:28.920 we've been in business in the outdoor, since we've had 0:53:28.960 --> 0:53:32.280 the entertainment, it's been great because he's because he's learned 0:53:32.320 --> 0:53:34.920 and got so much better at it than what we 0:53:36.000 --> 0:53:39.879 You know, it's fun to watch Kirk grow as that outdoorsman, 0:53:40.160 --> 0:53:43.319 not as a hunter, as a a woodsman you were 0:53:43.360 --> 0:53:45.239 talking about. And that's what we want to do. You know, 0:53:45.480 --> 0:53:47.919 I want my son to be a woodsman care less 0:53:48.000 --> 0:53:49.279 we knows how to hunt deer. I want to know 0:53:49.360 --> 0:53:52.840 how to hunt everything. When you said that, you know 0:53:53.239 --> 0:53:55.400 you want to have a PhD in Arkansas hunting, And 0:53:55.520 --> 0:53:58.480 that's that's the same way that I look at it too. 0:53:58.640 --> 0:54:00.839 I mean I don't just nailed down to one thing 0:54:01.440 --> 0:54:04.399 I love doing. Like I got trapped setting out, ready 0:54:04.400 --> 0:54:06.000 to go home. I'm gonna go set traps soon as 0:54:06.000 --> 0:54:09.239 we get back. You know. Yeah, well I think what 0:54:09.600 --> 0:54:12.000 I think what you guys are doing. Um, it was 0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:14.960 specifically with hound hunting. To go back to that. I mean, 0:54:15.880 --> 0:54:20.680 hound hunting is people just media has stayed away from 0:54:20.760 --> 0:54:24.040 it on purpose. I mean it's almost like in the 0:54:24.160 --> 0:54:27.280 last if you think about when outdoor television really started 0:54:27.400 --> 0:54:32.320 kind of in the nineties, that indoctrinated people so strongly, 0:54:33.000 --> 0:54:37.280 and white tails was where the money was. White tails 0:54:37.440 --> 0:54:40.799 was white tails were widely distributed. Nothing against white tails. 0:54:40.840 --> 0:54:43.200 I love hunting them just as much as anything. I hunt, 0:54:43.280 --> 0:54:46.399 absolutely and commit as much time to it. But it's 0:54:46.480 --> 0:54:50.800 like people, just like in everything people, that's just what 0:54:50.920 --> 0:54:53.320 they focused on. And it was highly influenced by outdoor 0:54:53.400 --> 0:54:55.960 media also opportunity. I mean, there's a lot of pros 0:54:56.000 --> 0:55:00.560 to white hunting, but what's what's happening now with platforms YouTube, 0:55:01.239 --> 0:55:06.600 It's like, uh, it's like you don't have they the 0:55:06.719 --> 0:55:08.960 content doesn't follow the money, if I could put it 0:55:09.080 --> 0:55:11.919 that way, you know, I mean, like there's there's never been. 0:55:12.800 --> 0:55:14.839 What I'm saying is that you're free to show who 0:55:14.920 --> 0:55:20.839 you are without the constraints of some big sponsor telling 0:55:20.880 --> 0:55:23.440 you what you need to do to get the views. 0:55:24.000 --> 0:55:29.080 But that's but people like that authenticity and and we're 0:55:29.160 --> 0:55:32.040 and you're showing people a whole bunch of new stuff 0:55:32.080 --> 0:55:34.840 inside hunting that maybe they were never exposed to that 0:55:34.960 --> 0:55:38.920 the mainstream media did not expose people too. And I mean, 0:55:38.960 --> 0:55:41.600 I think that's one of the greatest things about And 0:55:41.880 --> 0:55:44.080 it don't matter if you're on the YouTube platform. Now 0:55:44.120 --> 0:55:51.879 we like the YouTube platform, but the the commercialization, yeah, 0:55:51.920 --> 0:55:57.680 of the outdoor industry, they've killed themselves, um like any 0:55:57.760 --> 0:56:00.719 other basically, you know, if you don't know talking talking 0:56:00.719 --> 0:56:04.319 about like just pushing product product products people this deer 0:56:04.400 --> 0:56:07.239 without this, that and the other. You know, and yes, 0:56:07.320 --> 0:56:09.560 I mean Cope could go out and what he's wearing 0:56:09.640 --> 0:56:12.080 right now and kill dear. If you're put yourself in 0:56:12.080 --> 0:56:15.160 the right situation, and we don't, we're never going to 0:56:15.200 --> 0:56:17.600 get in a position that we have to. We have 0:56:17.680 --> 0:56:19.880 to be told that we're doing stuff like that. That's 0:56:19.920 --> 0:56:23.880 where you were talking about. You know, you don't have 0:56:24.600 --> 0:56:27.600 we don't have these sponsors telling us. Yeah, we have 0:56:27.680 --> 0:56:29.480 a couple of sponsors that we're working with right now, 0:56:29.560 --> 0:56:32.760 but we're very choosy. But and they understand your platform, 0:56:33.200 --> 0:56:36.440 understand that. If they don't understand, we don't deal with 0:56:36.520 --> 0:56:40.160 them because and they've been great, they're very soft sales. 0:56:41.400 --> 0:56:43.839 If you can show our products are stuff. If you can't, 0:56:44.320 --> 0:56:48.520 we'll catch it next time. It's not like you're gonna 0:56:48.560 --> 0:56:52.560 have to put us on their hard part to stay 0:56:52.600 --> 0:56:54.920 in that way, right because money, you know, money talks, 0:56:54.960 --> 0:56:57.080 and money is what makes things. And you see, you 0:56:57.200 --> 0:57:03.239 see these some of these bigger outdoor platforms. It's hard 0:57:03.280 --> 0:57:07.399 to when when you get to a certain place, yeah, 0:57:07.760 --> 0:57:10.560 because I'm always curious about that. It's like you have 0:57:10.760 --> 0:57:12.640 to I mean you you do have to have money, 0:57:12.719 --> 0:57:15.080 you do have to have sponsors. That's how we're able 0:57:15.120 --> 0:57:17.480 to do it full time, you know. But there's a 0:57:17.480 --> 0:57:20.720 happy medium there where you don't get to, I guess 0:57:20.800 --> 0:57:24.520 money crazy and and start doing things that you typically 0:57:24.680 --> 0:57:27.200 you know, you don't want to get away from you know, 0:57:27.280 --> 0:57:29.040 what we're doing now, We never want to get away 0:57:29.080 --> 0:57:31.920 from it. We always want to stay in check. Yeah, 0:57:32.360 --> 0:57:35.840 because as soon as we start, you know, pushing products 0:57:35.880 --> 0:57:39.120 and stuff, you know, on people, then we're doing what 0:57:39.480 --> 0:57:41.520 you know, it's already happened on you know, a lot 0:57:41.640 --> 0:57:43.320 of not not every show does it, but a lot 0:57:43.360 --> 0:57:46.240 of what you see on TV. And we're just not 0:57:46.360 --> 0:57:48.400 interested in that. And and people will comment on our 0:57:48.480 --> 0:57:50.920 videos saying we love that you guys don't do that. 0:57:51.200 --> 0:57:52.720 I mean they've they will come out and say it 0:57:52.840 --> 0:57:54.800 like we enjoy watching the video where you didn't have 0:57:54.880 --> 0:57:58.360 to name fifteen different products that you were using. We 0:57:58.520 --> 0:58:00.919 just watched you use them. But on the flip side, 0:58:00.960 --> 0:58:02.720 you know, you have to have that. You have to. 0:58:04.160 --> 0:58:07.280 It's expensive doing what we do. Yeah, and it's been 0:58:07.320 --> 0:58:10.000 a it's been an investment for us, you know, the 0:58:10.040 --> 0:58:13.160 past two years, because you know, we definitely ain't making no, 0:58:13.880 --> 0:58:18.080 you know, we're not making any money right now. Um. Now, 0:58:18.400 --> 0:58:20.640 is there a potential? Yeah? There, I hope that there's 0:58:20.680 --> 0:58:23.120 potential with what we're doing. I feel like what we're 0:58:23.160 --> 0:58:26.800 doing is good. Do you ever think about YouTube putting 0:58:26.800 --> 0:58:28.920 the clamps on you in some way? Oh? Yeah, it 0:58:29.000 --> 0:58:34.640 scares me because we've had a couple of warnings. You 0:58:34.680 --> 0:58:40.200 ever had a video flag? Uh? One time? Only one 0:58:40.480 --> 0:58:42.440 you can go? Look because I mean, did you dispute it? 0:58:42.920 --> 0:58:46.560 We did? Did did you win? I have one to actually, 0:58:46.760 --> 0:58:48.600 so I take that back. I had one flag that 0:58:48.680 --> 0:58:52.240 state flag. Now sometimes like I uploaded one and it 0:58:52.360 --> 0:58:55.680 flagged it immediately and I was like a robot caught that. Like, 0:58:55.760 --> 0:58:58.439 no one's sitting on YouTube at their headquarters like they've 0:58:58.480 --> 0:59:00.440 they've messed up. I've had a couple were like that, 0:59:00.760 --> 0:59:04.160 we've disputed in one. Um. But yeah, well I think 0:59:04.200 --> 0:59:07.320 I think I have one video that that they said 0:59:07.840 --> 0:59:10.920 no it was and I disputed it and they said 0:59:11.280 --> 0:59:14.240 graphic violence. Yeah, they said too intense. This is what 0:59:14.360 --> 0:59:18.320 they said, and no I did. But it's still still 0:59:18.320 --> 0:59:21.600 a lot of tizable video. It is. We always when 0:59:21.640 --> 0:59:25.120 when when Kirk appealed it, um, which is great because 0:59:25.120 --> 0:59:28.440 they were going to just kill it, right and when 0:59:28.520 --> 0:59:31.880 Kirk appelled it, we got an age restriction. But you 0:59:31.960 --> 0:59:34.320 can't it's it's not monetized. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. 0:59:34.400 --> 0:59:39.280 It's probably okay, of course, I think I think YouTube 0:59:40.160 --> 0:59:43.920 something has changed because before it's probably before y'all were 0:59:44.000 --> 0:59:48.440 even doing stuff. When I first got on YouTube, my 0:59:48.560 --> 0:59:52.480 stuff was just getting hammered. Yeah, and I would have 0:59:52.640 --> 0:59:57.320 to dispute it, and some I would win and some 0:59:57.520 --> 1:00:01.360 I would lose. One of my videos, I honestly think, 1:00:01.440 --> 1:00:04.960 would probably have been the highest viewed video that we 1:00:05.160 --> 1:00:07.640 have if they had not flagged it. Now I lost 1:00:07.720 --> 1:00:10.040 the dispute, and it makes no sense. While I lost 1:00:10.080 --> 1:00:12.000 the dispute and it's just a it's just a bear 1:00:12.120 --> 1:00:15.240 kill with a boat. I mean, there was nothing. I 1:00:15.280 --> 1:00:18.120 didn't even show skin in it or in in Uh. 1:00:18.800 --> 1:00:22.120 That video at the time was gaining fifty thousand views 1:00:22.160 --> 1:00:25.800 a day. I mean, it was just like and it 1:00:25.920 --> 1:00:29.400 got up to two or fifty thousand views that got flagged. 1:00:29.480 --> 1:00:32.200 I lost the dispute, and and it's still on YouTube, 1:00:32.600 --> 1:00:35.600 but it they shut it down, they don't promote it, 1:00:36.240 --> 1:00:38.480 and the video still has six hundred thousand views, so 1:00:38.560 --> 1:00:41.520 it got you know, three and fifty thousand views, just 1:00:41.640 --> 1:00:44.520 like I think that video probably would have just marched 1:00:44.600 --> 1:00:46.720 up if it hadn't got shut down. And that's crazy 1:00:46.800 --> 1:00:48.880 that YouTube. I mean, of course it's their platform. They 1:00:48.960 --> 1:00:50.720 have the power just to say, oh, no more on 1:00:50.800 --> 1:00:53.760 that video. But you know, you don't know who also 1:00:54.120 --> 1:00:56.240 is reviewing the videos, Like I don't understand how the 1:00:56.280 --> 1:00:59.640 process works. Like you might have uh, Tom that YouTube 1:01:00.040 --> 1:01:02.240 in your video, right, but then a lot of it 1:01:02.360 --> 1:01:04.800 is automated. Yeah, when you dispute it, I think it 1:01:04.840 --> 1:01:09.240 actually goes to yeah, I think you're right on it. Yeah. Yeah, 1:01:10.040 --> 1:01:12.480 I've got a trick. I'll tell you after this. I've 1:01:12.520 --> 1:01:14.480 got a trick if you're actually doing with a person, 1:01:14.800 --> 1:01:18.200 Oh yeah, I think it might work. But um, Kobe 1:01:18.280 --> 1:01:20.120 can even what else would you like to talk to 1:01:20.200 --> 1:01:23.800 these guys about? I think I would go back to 1:01:24.000 --> 1:01:27.000 the whole thing about sponsorship. I mean, because the thought 1:01:27.040 --> 1:01:29.080 I had is like, you're not really looking for sponsors. 1:01:29.120 --> 1:01:31.440 You're looking for partners, you know, someone that understands that 1:01:31.520 --> 1:01:35.120 they're partnering with you and something rather than just financing 1:01:35.200 --> 1:01:37.160 you to do something. I mean, at least that's that's 1:01:37.160 --> 1:01:40.400 what I see inside of the pieces. I don't even 1:01:40.480 --> 1:01:44.479 like using the word sponsor, pro staff. I hate those words. Yeah, 1:01:44.640 --> 1:01:46.600 and so I think that's something that I've seen inside 1:01:46.600 --> 1:01:48.160 of the people that we work with, is it's just 1:01:48.280 --> 1:01:50.920 people that were companies that are wanting to partner with 1:01:51.080 --> 1:01:53.400 us and they want us to just like use their products. 1:01:53.520 --> 1:01:56.720 And yeah, I mean sometimes I mean, well, you know, 1:01:56.960 --> 1:01:58.880 like Instagram and stuff. You know, it's like, hey, we're 1:01:58.920 --> 1:02:02.040 using this, but but it's it's more of like it's 1:02:02.080 --> 1:02:04.720 more like building a strong partnership and friendship with something 1:02:04.800 --> 1:02:06.880 that you know, it's like we're with you for the 1:02:06.920 --> 1:02:08.800 long haul and not just something it's like, well, we're 1:02:08.840 --> 1:02:11.880 just here, why it benefits us? You know? Um. And 1:02:11.960 --> 1:02:13.360 I think that's one of the things even up here 1:02:13.400 --> 1:02:15.320 when we see it's like when we're coming here to 1:02:15.400 --> 1:02:18.240 a t A, We're we're going and we legitimately just 1:02:18.320 --> 1:02:20.320 want to see the people, you know, we're not coming 1:02:20.400 --> 1:02:23.040 here to like the conversations we're having isn't like, well, 1:02:23.120 --> 1:02:25.080 what can we do to help you, or what can 1:02:25.120 --> 1:02:26.440 we do to help you? It's just like, hey man, 1:02:26.480 --> 1:02:29.200 how are you doing? You know? And I think building 1:02:29.320 --> 1:02:33.160 relationships has to like it, at least from our platform, 1:02:33.240 --> 1:02:35.800 it seems like that's something that that I've seen this 1:02:35.960 --> 1:02:38.439 valued more so than just like what the other person 1:02:38.520 --> 1:02:40.560 gets from the other. It's like, yeah, we're building together, 1:02:40.640 --> 1:02:42.600 but at the same time, it's it's more so I 1:02:42.760 --> 1:02:44.840 just like you guys, you know, and and I like 1:02:45.040 --> 1:02:48.760 that we're forging something together that's for our mutual benefit, 1:02:49.040 --> 1:02:54.880 you know. Well, the I mean the advertising dollars create 1:02:55.240 --> 1:02:58.520 false relationship really, I mean, like really what people want 1:02:58.560 --> 1:03:03.560 to see is they want to know really what Steve 1:03:03.680 --> 1:03:08.280 Ronnella would use if he wasn't being paid, Like like, 1:03:08.440 --> 1:03:11.440 that's what you really want to know. And and so 1:03:12.480 --> 1:03:15.280 you know, because anybody, I mean, I mean, that's just 1:03:15.400 --> 1:03:19.200 the nature of the planet is money causes people to 1:03:20.040 --> 1:03:23.840 to do stuff. So we're trying to create these and 1:03:23.960 --> 1:03:26.760 I and talk about Ronella, I think he's kind of 1:03:26.880 --> 1:03:29.000 done that in a lot of ways. He kind of 1:03:29.920 --> 1:03:34.480 helped build the soft sell into a wider market by 1:03:34.520 --> 1:03:37.040 the way he kind of did things back eight or 1:03:37.120 --> 1:03:40.800 nine years ago. But point being, that's what we're trying 1:03:40.840 --> 1:03:43.040 to do is just I mean, like in y'are too, 1:03:43.120 --> 1:03:45.080 I've talked to you. I mean, you guys are only 1:03:45.160 --> 1:03:49.479 partner with people that you truly believe in using their stuff. Yeah, 1:03:49.840 --> 1:03:54.600 and then yeah, a company reaches out to us and 1:03:54.680 --> 1:03:56.560 we haven't used it before, you know, we've never used 1:03:56.600 --> 1:03:59.120 that product, but we'll say, okay, you know, send us something. 1:03:59.160 --> 1:04:01.520 We'll try it out. You know, we're not just going 1:04:01.560 --> 1:04:03.080 to be like, yeah, send it to us, we'll sign 1:04:03.120 --> 1:04:05.280 this contract and then pay us ten thousand dollars. You know, 1:04:05.560 --> 1:04:08.120 well you want to try this out, and uh, if 1:04:08.160 --> 1:04:10.240 it's something that we're like, hey, this is legit and 1:04:10.360 --> 1:04:12.920 we're comfortable, you know, the people that watch our videos 1:04:12.920 --> 1:04:15.320 and really enjoy them, we're comfortable you know, telling them 1:04:15.360 --> 1:04:18.680 about this, then then we'll go with that company. Yeah. 1:04:18.840 --> 1:04:20.360 And I think on those videos, one of the things 1:04:20.440 --> 1:04:21.840 I really like is it just looks like you guys 1:04:21.840 --> 1:04:23.760 are having fun, you know, And I think that's something 1:04:23.880 --> 1:04:26.520 that produces a lot of buying on platforms like that, 1:04:26.680 --> 1:04:29.000 is they want to see, like again, that relationship and 1:04:29.080 --> 1:04:31.560 just having fun and and I think even like being 1:04:31.600 --> 1:04:35.120 able to show like the relationship between a person in 1:04:35.240 --> 1:04:38.480 his how you know, like those relationships are good to 1:04:38.520 --> 1:04:40.320 see two And I think there's there's a lot of 1:04:40.520 --> 1:04:43.720 mystery that's been created around those things because you just 1:04:43.800 --> 1:04:46.440 don't see it as much. I mean, like I grew up, um, 1:04:46.880 --> 1:04:49.120 you know, running coons and and hogs with hounds, and 1:04:49.200 --> 1:04:51.000 so it's like I had a view inside of it. 1:04:51.120 --> 1:04:53.600 So it was like when I came around the magazine 1:04:53.720 --> 1:04:55.560 or Clay started putting stuff up, it's like I had 1:04:55.840 --> 1:04:59.080 a particular type of buying. They're like seeing big game 1:04:59.160 --> 1:05:01.680 hunting with like cat and bears. It's like that's a 1:05:01.720 --> 1:05:03.800 whole new thing for me. Like whenever I came into it, 1:05:04.080 --> 1:05:07.200 but I understood the relationship between like, uh, like we 1:05:07.360 --> 1:05:09.680 had hounds and so I understood that relationship, and so 1:05:09.800 --> 1:05:11.439 it was like, man, this is really cool. I didn't 1:05:11.440 --> 1:05:12.880 know you could run them with with hounds. You know 1:05:14.000 --> 1:05:18.960 it is it is so um hidden in the in 1:05:19.040 --> 1:05:22.440 the outdoor world, and nobody wants you know, people in 1:05:22.480 --> 1:05:24.840 the outdoor world don't want to talk about it because 1:05:24.880 --> 1:05:29.560 it's like a I don't want to say it's like 1:05:29.680 --> 1:05:34.640 the evil side of hunting. But it's like day and night. 1:05:34.720 --> 1:05:36.720 If if you're a hound hunter, then you just looked 1:05:36.760 --> 1:05:39.880 at differently in the outdoor industry. And and that's what 1:05:40.040 --> 1:05:45.520 people what we're trying to do is is it doesn't 1:05:48.760 --> 1:05:50.920 We could care less if you hound hunt, if you 1:05:51.040 --> 1:05:53.800 bathe hunt. We've talked, we'd go on and on about it, 1:05:55.120 --> 1:05:57.160 and it will be the demise of the outdoor industry 1:05:57.200 --> 1:06:01.120 if we're not altogether. Because there's so many, uh, non 1:06:01.240 --> 1:06:04.320 hunter interest groups that we don't have to deal with 1:06:04.400 --> 1:06:07.840 in West Virginia. Those groups would be stupid to come 1:06:07.880 --> 1:06:13.320 into our borders. Um. But we could care less. And 1:06:13.360 --> 1:06:16.160 that's what the problem. You know, we don't look at 1:06:16.880 --> 1:06:20.320 you know, Clay hunts over bait for bears and you 1:06:20.480 --> 1:06:23.760 hound hunt too. Yeah does that matter to me? Is 1:06:23.800 --> 1:06:26.440 it going to affect me? No? I'm for Clay doing 1:06:26.520 --> 1:06:32.360 that because he's in the outdoors. He's promoting the outdoor industry. Um. 1:06:33.160 --> 1:06:35.680 And that's what Clay always refers to it as is 1:06:35.800 --> 1:06:39.640 bear huntings the low hanging fruit. Yeah, yeah, you said 1:06:39.720 --> 1:06:43.760 that last year, you know, are this is We talked 1:06:43.760 --> 1:06:46.360 about this a lot, but we still haven't clarified it 1:06:46.840 --> 1:06:50.440 a ton. But I can clarify it. In short, I 1:06:50.520 --> 1:06:53.680 think that bear hunting is actually one of the most 1:06:53.760 --> 1:06:57.800 important pieces of the whole of the hunting scene in 1:06:57.880 --> 1:07:03.440 North America. Point being that bears are the entry point 1:07:03.760 --> 1:07:08.880 for the anti hunting sentiment and anti hunting action, legislative action, 1:07:08.920 --> 1:07:11.520 everything to come into the hunting space. So if you 1:07:11.560 --> 1:07:14.480 were just a monitor the wide sphere of the hunting world, 1:07:14.960 --> 1:07:17.120 it's not the Deer's not elk, it's not pheasants, is 1:07:17.160 --> 1:07:21.280 not ducks, it's bears and lines too, but more bears, 1:07:21.840 --> 1:07:26.080 and and and So if you were a hundred years 1:07:26.120 --> 1:07:29.720 out looking back at this little point in time, and 1:07:29.880 --> 1:07:34.920 you know that the strategy of anti hunting organizations is incrementalism. 1:07:35.080 --> 1:07:36.920 They're not trying to knock it all down at once 1:07:36.920 --> 1:07:39.360 because they can't. Trying to chip off pieces. If you 1:07:39.400 --> 1:07:41.200 look at what they've done over the last fifty years 1:07:41.240 --> 1:07:44.320 in this country, they've chipped off pieces. They chipped off 1:07:44.400 --> 1:07:46.439 bear hunting in these days, they chipped off line hunting, 1:07:46.440 --> 1:07:50.240 they chipped off you know, certain things. So the most 1:07:50.320 --> 1:07:54.439 important thing at any given time in history in terms 1:07:54.520 --> 1:07:59.440 of preserving our way of life is that you guard 1:07:59.560 --> 1:08:02.200 that low hanging fruit, because if you guard that low 1:08:02.280 --> 1:08:04.320 hanging fruit, they can't get to the thing behind it. 1:08:04.720 --> 1:08:07.200 And so that's our hashtag. We're using guard the Gate. 1:08:07.520 --> 1:08:11.120 So we're saying bear hunting is the gate. So there's 1:08:11.120 --> 1:08:13.360 a lot of resource and time in the outdoor industry 1:08:13.440 --> 1:08:15.240 being invested in a lot of different places, which a 1:08:15.280 --> 1:08:17.280 lot of that stuff is really good. What I'm saying 1:08:17.400 --> 1:08:20.680 is is that we need the broader support of the 1:08:20.760 --> 1:08:26.000 outdoor community that is targeted towards the preservation of bear hunting, 1:08:26.439 --> 1:08:29.360 because we got nothing left to give the anti hunting 1:08:29.360 --> 1:08:33.160 community in two thousand and twenty. I mean, all the 1:08:33.360 --> 1:08:36.200 all the chief has been blown off by the wind. 1:08:36.320 --> 1:08:38.559 I mean, like what we have in North America right 1:08:38.600 --> 1:08:41.839 now with our bear hunting with hounds in seventeen states 1:08:41.920 --> 1:08:44.680 and our you know, lion hunting in different places. I mean, 1:08:44.760 --> 1:08:48.240 it has been whittled down to the foundations. And so 1:08:50.200 --> 1:08:52.080 my whole thing is, if you're an elk hunter, if 1:08:52.080 --> 1:08:53.760 you're a deer hunter, if you're this kind of hunter 1:08:55.280 --> 1:08:57.680 on board with helping, you better be on board with 1:08:57.720 --> 1:09:00.920 those guys because and now this ten years ago, five 1:09:01.000 --> 1:09:03.160 years ago, I might have said this was like fearmongering 1:09:03.280 --> 1:09:06.360 or something, but it's not. Man. The last seven years 1:09:06.479 --> 1:09:09.639 we have been on the forefront, but through Bare Hunting 1:09:09.680 --> 1:09:12.240 Magazine being the only bare hunting magazine in the world. 1:09:13.200 --> 1:09:16.560 I mean like we have a unique perspective on the 1:09:17.520 --> 1:09:21.880 on the anti hunting sentiment against bear hunting um just 1:09:22.000 --> 1:09:26.599 because of where we're placed. And I mean they are 1:09:26.760 --> 1:09:29.880 on track to knock us off the map in the 1:09:30.000 --> 1:09:32.880 next twenty years. I mean, that's that's there, that's what 1:09:33.000 --> 1:09:39.560 they think. If they did that, they absolutely would be 1:09:40.080 --> 1:09:43.280 taking another step up the ladder, which they'd be saying, 1:09:43.800 --> 1:09:46.760 you use elk decoys, to use those little puff up 1:09:46.800 --> 1:09:48.600 decoys that have elk ears on it and look like 1:09:48.680 --> 1:09:52.920 a cow elk and blow blow calcols when you're elk coming. Really, 1:09:53.000 --> 1:09:55.800 that sounds unfair to me. I think that's unfair. I 1:09:55.840 --> 1:09:58.679 think we're gonna take away all elk colling. Just spot 1:09:58.800 --> 1:10:00.800 and stock elk hunting. That's all you can do. I mean, 1:10:00.840 --> 1:10:03.240 that would take the knees out of elk hunting, right, 1:10:03.360 --> 1:10:06.120 I mean, you know that sounds like again five years ago, 1:10:06.160 --> 1:10:09.000 I said that was just it would be like conspiracy 1:10:09.080 --> 1:10:13.280 theory or something, but it's not. I mean, North American 1:10:13.360 --> 1:10:18.040 hunting will be vastly different in twenty five years, fifty years, 1:10:18.200 --> 1:10:20.840 ten years. If we don't do something, and I feel 1:10:20.880 --> 1:10:25.280 like that the bear hunting piece is really critical, I do. Yeah, 1:10:25.960 --> 1:10:29.439 I completely agree. I mean, and it's not nobody's saying that. 1:10:29.960 --> 1:10:32.720 I mean, it's it's like that, but it's a it's 1:10:32.760 --> 1:10:35.479 a broad picture, and it's a long picture, and people 1:10:35.840 --> 1:10:39.000 have a real hard time looking at the long term 1:10:39.080 --> 1:10:43.680 picture and the big broad picture because people, Yeah, I mean, 1:10:43.720 --> 1:10:45.720 we're kind of like the red headed step child of that. 1:10:46.200 --> 1:10:48.800 I mean, you're in the outdoors, you're you're kind of 1:10:48.840 --> 1:10:53.200 black eyed. And because I mean it, it's hard because 1:10:53.280 --> 1:10:56.120 you also have fellow hunters that hunt other animals that 1:10:56.160 --> 1:10:59.559 don't support you, you know, and in that unity, that's 1:10:59.560 --> 1:11:01.400 what we try to do with our YouTube channel, I mean, 1:11:01.640 --> 1:11:03.800 because of how diverse we are with you know, we 1:11:03.880 --> 1:11:06.080 put out a bunch of white tail videos, we put 1:11:06.120 --> 1:11:08.439 on a bunch of bear videos. Well, we have people 1:11:08.560 --> 1:11:11.920 that I love our white tail videos. They'll comment like, yeah, 1:11:12.439 --> 1:11:14.639 I don't I don't like your your your bear videos, 1:11:14.640 --> 1:11:16.200 but I love your white tail stuff. I don't think 1:11:16.200 --> 1:11:18.679 I don't think it's fair that you use dogs on theirs, 1:11:18.800 --> 1:11:21.960 you know, so we're we're hopefully, you know, showing you know, 1:11:22.120 --> 1:11:24.200 those people that typically wouldn't watch a bear video, but 1:11:24.280 --> 1:11:26.160 because now we're popping up on their phone to hey, 1:11:26.320 --> 1:11:27.960 you know, we like these guys. What they're doing is 1:11:27.960 --> 1:11:32.479 actually pretty cool. You know. It's we're open, yeah, through 1:11:32.479 --> 1:11:35.200 our YouTube channel that we're kind of merging two worlds. 1:11:36.960 --> 1:11:39.479 So what do you guys tell people about hound hunting, 1:11:39.640 --> 1:11:42.920 like the benefits of it? Because I know I've heard 1:11:43.000 --> 1:11:45.160 like Clay talk about it like the office. I'm just curious, 1:11:45.280 --> 1:11:48.240 like whenever people to say that to you, Like, what 1:11:48.400 --> 1:11:51.520 do you say about hound hunting like it's it's benefits 1:11:51.600 --> 1:11:54.680 and and like its purpose. Well, a lot of what 1:11:54.800 --> 1:11:57.000 I've learned from it is actually listening to Clay. I 1:11:57.080 --> 1:11:59.439 mean you can, uh, you can when you have a 1:11:59.439 --> 1:12:01.920 bear tree, it's catching at least hunting. I mean you 1:12:02.040 --> 1:12:05.240 can decide right there, um, you know, is that a boar? 1:12:05.439 --> 1:12:07.920 Is that a sow? How big is it? Um? Doesn't 1:12:07.960 --> 1:12:09.920 need to be taken out? Um, you can make all 1:12:09.960 --> 1:12:13.360 those decisions right there at the tree. Um, you know. 1:12:13.439 --> 1:12:15.639 And and it's it's and when we shoot a bear 1:12:15.960 --> 1:12:19.320 um out of a tree. Nine percent of time the 1:12:19.400 --> 1:12:21.280 bear is dead before it hits the ground. So like 1:12:21.400 --> 1:12:23.160 when we shoot, you know, someone might shoot one of 1:12:23.200 --> 1:12:25.080 the bow, which of course I have no issue with. 1:12:25.800 --> 1:12:28.400 They'll shoot one. You don't know exactly where you're going 1:12:28.439 --> 1:12:30.120 to hit it. You know, with a gun, you don't 1:12:30.160 --> 1:12:32.720 always find them. The bears that that we run, you know, 1:12:33.040 --> 1:12:35.120 most of the time we're catching and then we make 1:12:35.200 --> 1:12:37.559 a you know, we can make a clean, good decision, 1:12:37.640 --> 1:12:42.120 ethical decision should we kill that bear? And so in 1:12:42.320 --> 1:12:44.880 terms of in terms if if we're actually talking about 1:12:45.640 --> 1:12:49.280 the ethics of being humane to an animal, it would 1:12:49.280 --> 1:12:51.120 be hard to stand in a court of law with 1:12:51.200 --> 1:12:55.600 an unbiased judge and not say that that's actually the 1:12:55.680 --> 1:13:00.400 most ethical that when you're talking about the death of animal. 1:13:01.160 --> 1:13:02.960 Because the animals in a tree, you're able to make 1:13:03.000 --> 1:13:04.840 a good shot, You're able to make a decision about 1:13:04.920 --> 1:13:08.400 the sex, age, whatever categories that that you have, if 1:13:08.439 --> 1:13:11.439 you have any you know, you're able to make that decision. 1:13:12.160 --> 1:13:15.000 And and you know, an old hound hunter and Appalachian 1:13:15.040 --> 1:13:18.920 Mountains told me this in response to somebody saying that 1:13:19.160 --> 1:13:23.040 running bears with hounds was cruel, like actually cruel to 1:13:23.240 --> 1:13:26.320 the animal while it was being ran. And he said 1:13:26.560 --> 1:13:29.559 the old man. What the guy said to me, He said, Clay, 1:13:30.000 --> 1:13:33.320 He said, there are critters being killed on that mountain 1:13:34.120 --> 1:13:37.960 right now as we speak, being chased down by coyotes, 1:13:38.040 --> 1:13:42.320 being caught by raptors being you know, hawks being. I 1:13:42.400 --> 1:13:48.280 mean like this idea that you know, how's chasing the 1:13:48.400 --> 1:13:53.920 bear is something unnatural, something new. I mean, Mother nature 1:13:54.000 --> 1:13:57.320 had a much more cruel death plan for that animal. 1:13:57.840 --> 1:14:00.320 That's what I always say. I mean, you know, you 1:14:00.400 --> 1:14:03.639 see kill a bear with a with a shotgun after 1:14:03.680 --> 1:14:06.400 it's been chased for hour and a half by hounds. 1:14:07.160 --> 1:14:11.200 Mother nature had a much more cruel death planned for 1:14:11.320 --> 1:14:14.760 that critter. Doubt whether whether he died of starvation at 1:14:14.760 --> 1:14:17.360 old age, whether they got killed by rival male, whether 1:14:17.439 --> 1:14:20.200 he starved out in the then one winter after a 1:14:20.280 --> 1:14:23.519 low mass crop and no beech nuts. I mean, it's 1:14:23.560 --> 1:14:27.560 like man, nature nature is cruel, and you know, like 1:14:27.680 --> 1:14:30.200 the antis, they don't want to hear that side of it, 1:14:30.360 --> 1:14:32.320 you know, they want to ignore that that part of it. 1:14:32.400 --> 1:14:34.640 They don't. They don't want us being the ones that 1:14:35.120 --> 1:14:37.600 that you know, take that big mature bore out of 1:14:37.640 --> 1:14:40.519 out of the hearth. They would rather it's out of sight, 1:14:40.600 --> 1:14:42.479 out of minds, they really don't have to worry about 1:14:42.520 --> 1:14:46.080 what actually goes on, and so they typically ignore everything 1:14:46.160 --> 1:14:48.600 you just said. You you ask Kirk a question. I 1:14:48.720 --> 1:14:50.519 just couldn't help myself. I had to just jump in 1:14:50.520 --> 1:14:53.320 there and answer it for him. Sorry, no, you did. 1:14:54.760 --> 1:14:57.040 Once again, I agree. I feel like one of the 1:14:57.120 --> 1:15:00.280 things that there's a disconnecting is just like inside of life. 1:15:00.320 --> 1:15:03.240 It's like a lot of people just don't understand struggle 1:15:03.520 --> 1:15:05.800 or like the way things actually work. You know, it's 1:15:05.880 --> 1:15:07.960 like just the way that kids are raised and stuff. 1:15:07.960 --> 1:15:10.640 It's like things are so easy and so disconnected that 1:15:11.400 --> 1:15:14.080 that you just lose that sense that there's things that 1:15:14.160 --> 1:15:16.080 you have to struggle for or there's things that are 1:15:16.160 --> 1:15:18.640 just hard. And you know, it's like thinking about you know, 1:15:19.040 --> 1:15:21.360 dogs chasing the bear and the way mother nature is. 1:15:21.400 --> 1:15:22.559 I think that there's a lot of people that are 1:15:22.600 --> 1:15:25.240 just like they're just disconnected by the way that it's 1:15:25.280 --> 1:15:28.600 perception nature. Yeah, false perception nature. And I think I 1:15:28.720 --> 1:15:32.560 think that we add a human element to that that 1:15:32.880 --> 1:15:35.479 is valuable for people that to help them understand. I mean, 1:15:35.560 --> 1:15:38.599 like you guys YouTube channel, people seeing you guys being 1:15:38.720 --> 1:15:41.360 real and liking you. I mean the first time I 1:15:41.479 --> 1:15:44.400 watched you, I just liked you. I mean, and and 1:15:44.600 --> 1:15:48.439 that's highly valuable. I mean, like an anti hunter that 1:15:48.600 --> 1:15:53.240 was just adamantly opposed to running bear I figure that 1:15:55.479 --> 1:15:58.800 of them. If they came to my house and had 1:15:58.840 --> 1:16:03.120 dinner with me and my family and set around, and 1:16:03.240 --> 1:16:04.960 I mean, and I knew they were anti hunter, and 1:16:04.960 --> 1:16:07.240 they knew I was a bear hunter, they would walk 1:16:07.320 --> 1:16:11.600 away with maybe not a totally changed mind, but they 1:16:11.640 --> 1:16:14.280 would have respect for me. I feel like they would, 1:16:14.400 --> 1:16:18.360 I mean, just just in I mean, in so anyway 1:16:18.640 --> 1:16:22.120 that the whole idea of a face with a person, 1:16:22.240 --> 1:16:25.040 and that's kind of what following a channel on YouTube does, 1:16:25.160 --> 1:16:27.200 is you kind of feel like you know somebody. So 1:16:27.280 --> 1:16:30.400 I think there's some benefit inside of that that people 1:16:31.040 --> 1:16:34.320 people probably there's just a there's a human, there's a 1:16:34.400 --> 1:16:38.680 human involved with it. It's not just a barbarian. It's well, 1:16:38.880 --> 1:16:42.760 some people might think Josh is barbarian. But I've given 1:16:42.800 --> 1:16:44.439 you a hard time, Josh. I hope you know, I 1:16:44.520 --> 1:16:49.240 hope you know I stay on him since he's used to. Yeah, 1:16:49.320 --> 1:16:53.080 I mean, but that's the greatest thing about the channel 1:16:53.560 --> 1:16:57.679 and YouTube, is it When you came up thus last 1:16:57.800 --> 1:17:00.360 year you were and we were sitting at our table 1:17:00.360 --> 1:17:02.160 when you just came up and say, Hey, Josh, what's 1:17:02.200 --> 1:17:05.560 going on? And I was like, hey, it's Clay. We 1:17:05.760 --> 1:17:08.400 never even met, but we've seen each other on YouTube. 1:17:09.680 --> 1:17:14.040 So that's the That's one thing I do like, and 1:17:14.080 --> 1:17:18.920 I think that that's one thing we try is connecting 1:17:19.479 --> 1:17:24.280 personally with our audience through the video. And well, uh 1:17:24.439 --> 1:17:28.840 late an hour at a Giovanni's Pizza and logan and uh, 1:17:28.960 --> 1:17:31.519 I had put a video up that the night before, 1:17:32.160 --> 1:17:34.479 UH where Josh and I weur bear hunting and I 1:17:34.560 --> 1:17:36.760 forgot my radio and I walked down to the dogs. 1:17:36.800 --> 1:17:38.200 So the bear came out of the tree and I 1:17:38.280 --> 1:17:40.639 was down there by myself. He couldn't track me, didn't 1:17:40.640 --> 1:17:42.240 know where I was. I couldn't talk to him, didn't 1:17:42.240 --> 1:17:44.439 know where he was. We just knew that the bear's 1:17:44.479 --> 1:17:47.400 gonna end up somewhere. But the point is I forgot 1:17:47.439 --> 1:17:50.200 my radio, so I'm walking and we made it me 1:17:50.200 --> 1:17:53.360 in the video like we talked about it because because 1:17:53.439 --> 1:17:56.720 it was a cluster, it was a cluster and that 1:17:56.880 --> 1:17:58.960 and and that's kind of that's that's kind of like 1:17:59.040 --> 1:18:01.120 who I am, though, Like I do stuff like that 1:18:01.200 --> 1:18:06.040 all the time. You know, I'm I'm kind of true. Josh, 1:18:07.240 --> 1:18:15.120 absolutely my messy, unorganized, no radio, no gun, GPS, no nine, 1:18:15.479 --> 1:18:21.880 no nine. He is scattered and gone. All he is 1:18:22.000 --> 1:18:26.880 is I'm getting to the dogs. But what I'm getting? Yeah, yeah, 1:18:26.920 --> 1:18:29.080 back to So, I had forgotten my radio. So I'm 1:18:29.120 --> 1:18:31.639 walking out of Giovanni's and a guy says, hey, Kirk. 1:18:31.760 --> 1:18:33.640 He was like, he was like like, I look at 1:18:33.760 --> 1:18:35.080 him like I didn't know who he was. He said, 1:18:35.120 --> 1:18:42.200 don't forget your radio. Forget That's cool And that's the 1:18:42.400 --> 1:18:46.160 number one roule. Do not leave the truck without a radio. 1:18:46.360 --> 1:18:48.960 And I've done better. We got those chest harnesses that 1:18:49.000 --> 1:18:52.840 we've gotten probably sixty messages on what kind of chest 1:18:52.880 --> 1:18:54.760 harnesses do you all have? Where do you get those? 1:18:55.760 --> 1:18:59.160 That's that's our most asked question. You would not believe. 1:18:59.200 --> 1:19:05.120 What's the answer, can Tara non affiliated? No, they probably 1:19:05.640 --> 1:19:08.280 who we are. But I guarantee if they go back 1:19:08.920 --> 1:19:11.479 and they look at seals from two thousand and eighteen 1:19:11.560 --> 1:19:14.919 to two thousand and twenty, they had that. I guarantee 1:19:15.000 --> 1:19:18.559 that their chest pouches, the ones that we wear, they've 1:19:18.600 --> 1:19:21.960 went out of the They've had to produce God knows 1:19:22.000 --> 1:19:26.000 how many and can they're they're paramedic and smoke jumpers. 1:19:26.880 --> 1:19:31.120 That's what they were, the firefighters, like it's a safety pass. 1:19:31.280 --> 1:19:36.519 I would be like just google Chest Harness radio. But 1:19:36.640 --> 1:19:39.519 that's why biggest questions and I probably copy a past 1:19:39.600 --> 1:19:41.559 of the link to Amazon to that. I can't even 1:19:41.600 --> 1:19:43.439 tell you how many times we should be should be 1:19:43.520 --> 1:19:45.960 anything about it is. Kirk still to this day would 1:19:46.000 --> 1:19:49.639 not have one if he did not cabbage on to mine. 1:19:51.800 --> 1:19:55.800 Kirk is like a pirate. He he participates in a 1:19:55.880 --> 1:20:01.400 lot of piracy. Chest Harns s D cards. Don't leave 1:20:01.439 --> 1:20:04.120 any s D cards Kobe around this man because it's 1:20:04.200 --> 1:20:07.439 like it's like the guy off of X Men. He 1:20:07.840 --> 1:20:11.840 with the SD cards and metal he doesn't ye, he's 1:20:11.840 --> 1:20:16.800 like s D do with SD cards. Yeah, you know 1:20:16.800 --> 1:20:23.560 what I'm saying. But now it it worked, what what 1:20:23.800 --> 1:20:27.040 what we do works for us? And and I don't. 1:20:27.520 --> 1:20:30.840 I mean, I'll take the opportunity to give Kirk a 1:20:30.920 --> 1:20:34.120 lot of ADDI boys, because I mean I'm not any 1:20:34.200 --> 1:20:38.040 technical guy. Most people probably know that on our channel 1:20:38.160 --> 1:20:42.759 that listened to us and watch us. Now I'm learning, Yeah, slowly, 1:20:42.840 --> 1:20:46.080 he's learned how to turn the camera on ye. Yeah, 1:20:47.840 --> 1:20:52.240 but he Kirk has done a superb job at the editing, 1:20:52.320 --> 1:20:55.760 producing and and everything on that on that and um 1:20:57.280 --> 1:20:59.720 but and it's and it's working for us and that's 1:20:59.720 --> 1:21:02.960 what matters. And we're having fun. I mean, yeah, did 1:21:03.040 --> 1:21:07.680 we get pissed at each other? Absolutely? We do. I mean, 1:21:07.720 --> 1:21:09.680 when you spend that much time with somebody, if you 1:21:09.720 --> 1:21:12.479 don't have disagreements, then you're probably not real with each other. Yeah, 1:21:12.840 --> 1:21:16.599 I mean, um, do we get aggravated with with Lane? 1:21:16.720 --> 1:21:19.320 And you know Lane probably with Lane a lot. Well, 1:21:19.320 --> 1:21:22.160 I mean he gets brought well, he gets brought in 1:21:25.080 --> 1:21:27.120 and that's why I'm gonna say, but you know, he 1:21:27.160 --> 1:21:29.760 gets brought into a group he's never been around. Uh, 1:21:31.080 --> 1:21:34.240 he doesn't know our hunting habits. You know, it gets intense. Um, 1:21:34.920 --> 1:21:37.559 I can imagine. But you know, we have a good time. 1:21:37.640 --> 1:21:43.439 And that's what you know, that's a that's the main 1:21:43.920 --> 1:21:46.080 that's a we wake up, you know, like for instance, 1:21:46.120 --> 1:21:48.200 I'm full time doing this. I wake up every day. 1:21:48.760 --> 1:21:51.519 I Mean my stresses in life are, Man, I gotta 1:21:51.520 --> 1:21:53.519 get that video edit of a hunt, you know, a hunt, 1:21:54.000 --> 1:21:55.720 you know, and then I can get it done and 1:21:55.960 --> 1:21:58.560 I can go out and hunt and video and I 1:21:58.720 --> 1:22:00.240 wake up every day with a smile on my face, 1:22:00.439 --> 1:22:03.360 you know, because if I absolutely love what I'm doing. Yeah, 1:22:03.720 --> 1:22:08.320 that's awesome. Man. Well, hey guys, any closing closing thoughts, 1:22:08.320 --> 1:22:11.800 anything you wanted to say that you didn't get to say. Oh, 1:22:12.560 --> 1:22:14.639 there's a lot of stuff I wasn't able to say. 1:22:15.240 --> 1:22:18.680 I'm just I need to I need to close the 1:22:18.760 --> 1:22:23.160 podcast and my Josh voice, Yeah you should, I can't do. 1:22:24.439 --> 1:22:27.479 I wish you'd been there, Josh. It was awesome. I'd 1:22:27.560 --> 1:22:29.639 love to hear it. Yeah. Well, I just I want 1:22:29.680 --> 1:22:31.400 to thank you all for you know, having us and 1:22:32.320 --> 1:22:36.120 hopefully you're your audience like listening to us. And I'm 1:22:36.160 --> 1:22:37.479 sure we have a lot of it'll be a lot 1:22:37.479 --> 1:22:41.080 of crossover. Yeah, it'll be cool that we they got 1:22:41.160 --> 1:22:43.400 to hear us all together, you know place and I 1:22:43.439 --> 1:22:46.640 appreciate that, just the support, you know, since we've had 1:22:46.640 --> 1:22:49.519 our Champel, Clay and I've talked a lot on the phone, 1:22:49.560 --> 1:22:54.000 and um, I know that we don't um have to 1:22:54.120 --> 1:22:56.759 endure with a lot of other people in Hannah States endure. 1:22:57.479 --> 1:23:01.719 We understand that, but and we never want to hurt 1:23:02.760 --> 1:23:04.800 anybody in the other states. And what we do what 1:23:04.920 --> 1:23:08.040 we do. Want to show people what we do. Yeah, 1:23:09.080 --> 1:23:11.760 and we've had those discussions, but just thank you all 1:23:11.840 --> 1:23:14.560 for supporting us and our channel and what we do. 1:23:15.160 --> 1:23:18.240 Yeah yeah, yeah, Well we're fans. So check out the 1:23:18.360 --> 1:23:21.400 untamed YouTube channel and I guess this is going on 1:23:21.560 --> 1:23:23.439 your podcast too, so people can check out the bear 1:23:23.520 --> 1:23:27.599 hunting magazine of our people may not even we don't 1:23:27.600 --> 1:23:30.840 talk about the YouTube channel with time, but hey, thanks guys, 1:23:31.280 --> 1:23:34.240 thank you. The wild places wild because that's where the 1:23:34.240 --> 1:23:38.400 bears live. You should do it. And Josh's boys place wild, 1:23:38.560 --> 1:23:41.720 that's where and I think Josh needs to say it now. 1:23:41.720 --> 1:23:44.640 We need to say it full through. So it's keep 1:23:44.680 --> 1:23:46.479 the wild places wild because that's where the bears. That 1:23:46.640 --> 1:23:51.559 say it like full throttled Josh, it's keep the wild 1:23:51.680 --> 1:23:54.439 places wild because that's where the bears. I'm gonna take 1:23:54.479 --> 1:24:00.439 my headphones off. We might even use this give me 1:24:00.560 --> 1:24:01.920 give me a fist pump No no, no, I mean 1:24:01.960 --> 1:24:05.519 I'm like a yeah baby, yeah, yeah yeah, keep it, 1:24:05.960 --> 1:24:08.479 keep the wild. Yeah. I don't even know what I 1:24:08.560 --> 1:24:11.920 starts to say, the wild places wild because that's where 1:24:11.960 --> 1:24:16.080 the bears live. Can you write that now? Yeah, text 1:24:16.160 --> 1:24:19.000 to keep keep the wild places wild because that's where 1:24:19.000 --> 1:24:26.200 the Bears live. Yeah yeah, baby, I can't do it. 1:24:28.479 --> 1:24:29.600 I enjoyed it. Guys that