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I started watching the Untamed on 29 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: the YouTube when they were just getting started, and I 30 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: saw that these guys had a lot of potential, mainly 31 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: just because of how authentic they were, and I could 32 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: tell that they were good hunters, and I could tell 33 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: that they were committed to the platform and what they 34 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: were doing. I reached out to these guys a while 35 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,839 Speaker 1: back and just to encourage them and just to say 36 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: what I thought they were doing. It was cool. On 37 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: this podcast, I sit down with Josh and Kirk from 38 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: the Untamed YouTube channel and we talk about building the 39 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: YouTube platform, YouTube analytics. We talked about some hunting, we 40 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: talked about hound hunting, we talked about their very unique 41 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: style of deer hunting, and it's just overall a super 42 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: fun podcast. I even do a couple of impressions of Josh. 43 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: So you're gonna want to check this out? Say it again. 44 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: I've been I've been going back and forth on it. Well, no, 45 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: I think I'm dyslexic. I was putting the D before 46 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: the L and called you, Colonel Idler. Yeah that sounds 47 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah, I like that better. But everybody says 48 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: the Elderton. Nobody says the Olderton. We are at the 49 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: We're in Indianapolis. I was actually confused about what town 50 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: I was in this morning. We drove from Arkansas last 51 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: night and Uh, I told, Well, I guess I wasn't 52 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: confused about the town I was in, but I said, 53 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: I said, Kobe, we were here last year, and he 54 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: was like, no, we weren't. We were in Louisville, and 55 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: I said, no, we weren't. A t A was in Indianapolis. 56 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: So I guess I was confused about what town I 57 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: was in last year at this time. But then he 58 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: said that you were flying I told Kirk last night, 59 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: I said, he's flying up. I said, that's a long 60 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: drift Rkansas. It was a long drive. It was nine 61 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: hours in the rain. But hey, we're here with UH 62 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: with two of our two of our buddies, Uh from 63 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: a YouTube channel. I'll just put it on the table, 64 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: Uh Josh, Uh, geez, we're gonna cut this out. Pronounce 65 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: your last night. I've been going to Josh Oddlerton for 66 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: like two years, Josh Josh Alderton, Josh Elderton, Josh Elderton 67 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: Price and uh and Zach over here, and I got 68 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: Colby Moore head the bear Tech. But h man, we're 69 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: gonna have a good, good conversation about I want to 70 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: hear about. We're gonna talk about some YouTube stuff. We 71 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: usually don't go into like the back room of outdoor 72 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: media to that kind of talk about, you know, kind 73 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: of how some of this stuff works. But I want 74 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: to talk to you guys about your YouTube channel because 75 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: you guys have built a really cool YouTube channel. Um 76 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: and I think you've got forty something thousand subscribers on 77 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: YouTube and producing a lot of content. But I'm more 78 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: interested in your hunting. I want to talk about your 79 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: white tail hunting and some of your bear hunting with 80 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: hounds and uh, turkey hunting. You got a you got 81 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: a turkey video that's got three point three million views, 82 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: don't you That's crazy? Because we did. It was a 83 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: compilation video. Yeah, it's got three and a half. We 84 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: talked about it all the time. Yeah what Josh? Okay, 85 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: before we hear Josh's voice too much. Yesterday in the car, 86 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: I did a Josh impression that was uncanny, uncanny. I'd 87 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: like to hear it right now. Well, I tell you 88 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: I lost it. We it was so good. I got 89 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: excited more to come see Josh and to come to yesterday. 90 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:53,239 Speaker 1: Yesterday I told Kobe that Josh called me and I said, 91 00:05:53,680 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, Josh called me. He said, hi is Josh, 92 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: And I nailed it, nailed it, nailed, and then I 93 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: lost it because this it was like better it like 94 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: it's about the voicemail. I left it. No, just just 95 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: talking to you yesterday I told cold said, Josh called me, 96 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,119 Speaker 1: and I just was trying to say what you said 97 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: and you were like, Hi, this is Josh. That's pretty good. 98 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: How are you doing? Are you doing? Man? We're gonna 99 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: have a great time at a Yeah. I mean Kirk's 100 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: coming up. Yeah, hev me rolling. It was good by 101 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: Well do you think Zack? Because that is that pretty good? 102 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: Pretty good. I had a whole conversation with COVID. It 103 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: was amazing. You have a lot of conversations in the 104 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: nine and a half hour drive. Uh. Me and Kirk 105 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: saved the world on our drive in New Mexico. So 106 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: I bet you did, oh twice? Yeah. Well, hey, Josh, 107 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: introduced yourself, give us us a little a little uh, 108 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: just your where you're from, your family, just a little 109 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: bit of history, just so we can kind of know 110 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: who you are. UM, Josh Ilderton. So Clay can pronounce 111 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: my name right, Obviously he's thought I was somebody else 112 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Born and raised in West Virginia. 113 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: UM military guy, UM veteran Marine Corps and got a 114 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: wife and a son. And I absolutely have a die 115 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: hard passion for anything outdoors. And I could care less 116 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: what it is. UM, I just like being outside. Um. 117 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: So you were in the military when you graduated from 118 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: high school? How long we're in the military five and 119 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: a half years. Originally was in for four and then 120 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: I signed an extension to go back over seas for 121 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: eight teen months, and UM then got out. And I 122 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: want blue blue collar guy. Um. I've got a construction 123 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: company and a welding fabrication shop, and I believe in 124 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: you know, everything you get you you go after, you 125 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: get paid for hard work. I mean, I believe in it. 126 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: If you get up early and every day and you 127 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: get after it, then you get rewarded for it. Um 128 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: and then the untamed you know, Kirk. Um, I brought 129 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: this idea, you know a couple of years ago about 130 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: the untamed, and I bought into it. And did you 131 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: guys know each other? We we we were acquaintances. Yeah, 132 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: we kinda uh my buddy Trace yea. And of course 133 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: you know if you watched our videos, you've seen Tracey 134 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 1: in the videos. He uh he was like, uh, hew, 135 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: do you want to go bear hunting? And uh that's 136 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: how I met Josh that way. Yeah, Kirk, go ahead 137 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: and introduce yourself so we can, right, Okay, Yeah, I 138 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: didn't want to get too far into it because I 139 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: was kind of part of the story. I guess. Um. 140 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: My name's Kirk Price. I'm also from uh West Virginia. 141 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: Um I have. I've been doing this video thing for 142 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: uh quite some time now. It started as a hobby 143 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 1: when I was probably in middle school. I was just 144 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: using my parents cameras, using cell phones, whatever I couldn't 145 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: get my hands on. And uh I got a anyways, 146 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: I started you know, building up quite a bit of footage, 147 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: and I got a job working for Buck Commander while 148 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: I was in college, and so, uh it was kind 149 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: of like an internship deal. I wasn't looking to do 150 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: it full time, um, but it was more of like 151 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: a you know, a life experience I couldn't turned down. 152 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: And so I went out there and I worked for 153 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: Buck Mander. I lived in Arkansas and uh, actually I 154 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, I lived in Arkansas. Uh actually it's 155 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: called do you know where Harding University is? A? Okay, 156 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 1: so I lived like right there, and seriously I believe it. 157 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And uh so I got well, actually the 158 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: guys that I was filming and like I was headquartered 159 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: right there, but I would drive down to Louisiana. They're 160 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: there in uh Louisiana. So it was you know, I 161 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: was jumping back and forth across the line. Um. But yeah, 162 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: so I got my start to Buck Commander, and really 163 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: they taught me. You know, I went from just running 164 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: a camera and auto to really running a camera, you know, 165 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: really learning cameras and stuff. And then uh, after that 166 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: was over, I went to I went back to school 167 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: when you know, finished school up and while I was 168 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: in college. Uh, that's when Tracey was like, hey, you 169 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: know you want to go bear hunting you And I 170 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: was like, sure, you know I didn't. I'd never coon hunted. 171 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: Rabbit hunt had nothing to do with hounds. I mean, 172 00:10:54,720 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: I knew you know nothing about it at all. At 173 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: Bear Hunting Magazine, we partner with some of the best 174 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: bear outfitters in the world. And I've got a quick 175 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: question for you. What big game animal can you hunt 176 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: in May in June? The answer is simple, it's black 177 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: bear spring black bear hunt. 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Yeah, 194 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: I think he's in the room with the spoiler alert. 195 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: He's like, uh, you wanna you wanna go? So I 196 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, let's let's go. I I took my 197 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: camera and uh, I was just taking still photos. You know, 198 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: these people were probably never had cameras around him, and 199 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: I'm pointing it out. I'm just going to town taking 200 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: photos and stuff. And I had a blast. And and 201 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: that day was I mean, we we I believe we 202 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: treated bear and killed it and we had a really 203 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: good time. But I was like, man, I was like 204 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: that that Josh Kat. I was like, you know, he's 205 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: pretty cool. So we went about our ways and then 206 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: we wanting to start, you know, I was wanting to 207 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: do something and I was I didn't, you know, want 208 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: to get stagnant, and uh, you know, Tracey and I 209 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: started talking and we went to Josh, and I was like, hey, 210 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: you know, I started thinking, and then you know, I 211 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: realized West Virginia has a training season for Bears. That's 212 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: um all year long. I mean, you can run bear 213 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: anytime West Virginia. So I was like, huh. And then 214 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: this YouTube thing started. You know, I could tell that 215 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: it was going to take off. And and uh me, 216 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: you say YouTube thing? You mean you didn't have a 217 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: channel yet, know, you just spent YouTube in genera that platform. 218 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: I could tell something was there and and people were 219 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: probably gonna start going away from cable because none of 220 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: my buddies have cable anymore. And like, I feel like 221 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: my generation is kind of changing that, like we're going 222 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: to like fire sticks and rokup or whatever it's called 223 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So we went to Josh. Wait 224 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: a minute, you said my generation as if, like, Josh 225 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: and I are old? Is that what you is? That 226 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: what you bet? I kind of implying that, but I 227 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: wasn't going to directly say it. He opens doors for me, 228 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: and there's your stuff before you, sir, You go ahead. 229 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: We've been mistaken for father and son how many times? 230 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: A lot? I mean, oh yeah, kills me. We're going 231 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: to a gas station. We're going to gas station get 232 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: our biscuits before we go bear hunting. It well though, 233 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: they'll be like, oh, here's your dad's biscuits. There. I 234 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: don't know what you wanted. Well, if you had a beard, 235 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: you look a little bit older. Listen, that's what I listening. 236 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: I want a beard so bad. It's just not gonna happen. 237 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: They don't. I don't know if you've seen me trying 238 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: to grow one, but it's pretty good work, pretty patchy. Okay. Anyways, 239 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: we went, I just I kind of we figured out 240 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: that YouTube platform was was a good way to go 241 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: for us, and uh I knew. I mean I when 242 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: I went bear hunting, I literally was like, I don't 243 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: even I don't know if I've even seen a bear 244 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: hunting video, like how hunting video. So then I got 245 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: on YouTube and I was like bear hunting with hounds, 246 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: just some generic search, you know, And of course I 247 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: come across your videos and I was like, I was like, 248 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: this guy, you know, this is the only guy I've 249 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: seen doing any type of hound stuff. And it's not 250 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: like you were only doing hound or something. You did 251 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: a wide variety of bears, but you had some hound 252 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: hunting videos on there. I was like, huh, and the 253 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: ones that you had on there had done really well, 254 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: like views wise, So I was like, man, I was like, 255 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: we need for this YouTube, like we want to put 256 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: out a ton of content. And I was like, bear 257 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: hunting is a ton of content, Like it's interesting just 258 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: because you can do it so much. Training season is 259 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: all year long, twenty good days in the fall, like 260 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: a white tail rut, right, and for us, you know, 261 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: it's not about killing the bear. Um, it's about it's 262 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: about our dogs and the hounds. And so when we're 263 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: able to video, you know, people see our dogs progress 264 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: on you know, on video or seeing new dogs and 265 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: they ask us about them. It's just unlimited content and 266 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: so uh yeah, that's kind of how the Untamed got started. 267 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, so the when did you actually start the 268 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: YouTube channel? Um? Our first video was in Okay, so 269 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: just almost almost two years. So let me describe what 270 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: kind of the different styles of YouTube channels. To me, 271 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: you guys are like a classic YouTube channel, Like the 272 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: platform is really seems to be designed for people that 273 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: are producing a ton of content, would you agree, Cobe 274 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: I didn't have Colby introduced himself tech the um people. 275 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: People think I'm Colby's father, they don't. Yeah, yeah, I 276 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: gotta keep it trim light like, so it looks like 277 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: it's intentional. So the platform really seems to be geared 278 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: towards people that are producing a ton of content, like 279 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: putting out weekly stuff, you know, um in in you know, 280 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: the hunting public. That they kind of they didn't they 281 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: didn't pioneer that at all, but they they made it 282 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: real successful in the hunting space. Yeah, I don't think 283 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: that they pioneered it, but I'm gonna tell you right 284 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: now that they opened a lot of doors up for 285 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: because like Hushing had been on YouTube for I think 286 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: eleven years, eleven or twelve years, So I think that 287 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: they they're like original outdoor channel. Yeah, now what th 288 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: HP and I honestly we talked about it all time, 289 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: but we get in a buying on our channel because 290 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: of content, because Kirk is the editor, producer, the hunter, 291 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: the houndsman, dog handler, you know, everything you know, and 292 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: we're wearing all those hats. But YouTube reward you. We 293 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 1: can see a difference in YouTube when Kirk in the 294 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: office season, when Kirk's able to pound out the videos 295 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: and we're putting two videos out a week and working instant. Yeah, 296 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden we start going to the 297 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: top of the food ladder. Yeah yeah yeah, and our subscribers, 298 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: our views, everything goes up. So if we miss a week. 299 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: So there's there's analytics that are working behind the scenes. 300 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: Like I think most people that would watch YouTube that 301 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: aren't creators YouTube creators, they might just think, well, if 302 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: you put a good video up, it's gonna get a 303 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: million views. If you put a bad video up, it's 304 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: gonna get a thousand views. It's not true. It's there's 305 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: there's there's algorithms and mechanisms at play that are bigger 306 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: than what YouTube even lets people know. But they do 307 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: reward people for consistent content. Um, they reward people for 308 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: the type of content I mean, like hunting stuff is 309 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: already at a back. It's it's like a step back 310 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: from their premium content. They penalize us because it's like 311 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: sensational content. Like if we were creating I can't remember 312 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: the exact terminology, but I mean, if we were creating 313 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: like you know, like ballet videos, they would they would 314 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: much more freely distribute our stuff. We we we talked 315 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: about it yesterday on the web here, and it's funny 316 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: to bring up, but we talked about it. If if 317 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: Kirk would we talked about Moon and Truckers. What we 318 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: talked about Moon and Truckers got the road out here. 319 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: Can guarantee it. If we Moon Truckers and videoed it 320 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 1: and put it up, it would blow up. We'd get 321 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,959 Speaker 1: millions of views and people would laugh. And but for 322 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: us it's it's not the right thing to do. So 323 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: we decided against it. You know. And then without door videos, 324 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: you kind of take they would rather have that type 325 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: of content then an outdoor setting content. Yeah, like you know, 326 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: more geared towards hunting. Uh, there's a there's a classification 327 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: and and and I've really studied into it when I 328 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: first got our YouTube channel, going, Um, there's a classification 329 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: that we are inside of there. I mean, they they 330 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: have ways to categorize creators and we're automatically and I 331 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: can't remember the exact details of it. Basically, our stuff 332 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: is already at a slight disadvantage from more stuff that 333 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: they would consider like benign content. Um, but I wanted 334 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: to say so, so you guys are producing kind of 335 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: like live action stuff. Like the whole the whole thing 336 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: is that you're producing content that like it's quickly coming 337 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: out to right, It's not so typically when you watch 338 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: a show on the Outdoor Channel, that stuff is filmed 339 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: a year a year out, like from like two thousand 340 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: and eighteen, but it's two thousand nineteen, but you're watching 341 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: two thousand and eighteen footage, So they got that's why 342 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: you got. You know, there's a lot more done to 343 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: it and stuff. But the way we do it is 344 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: I might film it tomorrow and put it up today, 345 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: and it's I mean, that's that's what that's why YouTube 346 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: is popular, right, I mean, that's why it works. Right. 347 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: And and you know I've seen um TV shows, uh 348 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: you know, hunting shows that they'll take their episodes from 349 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: the show and then directly upload that same edited version 350 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: they put on the show and put it on YouTube. 351 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: It'll get like and these are like major like big 352 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: money production TV shows on the Outdoor Channel, they'll put 353 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: it on YouTube and they'll get like two or three views. 354 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: And that's because the content and what what people want 355 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: to watch from YouTube versus TV is completely different. And 356 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: some people, you know, they can't understand that it's tough 357 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: to wrap your mind around. Yeah, but there's an authenticity 358 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: factor that comes in when you're looking at something that 359 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: has a time stamp that was from last week. Yeah. 360 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: I mean when you when you watch it and you're like, man, 361 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: they filmed this last week, you know, and it feels 362 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: it feels relevant, it feels like real time. I said 363 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: partly just that all to say, what we're doing now 364 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: is not very good for YouTube, even though it's working 365 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 1: for us. We're getting to the point where we're trying 366 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: to make eight to ten kind of cinematic, polished, like 367 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: the best you know, production that we can do in 368 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 1: produce eight to ten maybe twelve videos a year. That's 369 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: kind of our platform, and it actually doesn't work very 370 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: good for YouTube. We would do better on like Netflix 371 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: or or something like as an episode show. And that's 372 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: just the decision we made. You know, we don't have 373 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: a U which I mean Netflix could be a route 374 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: of the future. You know, well, boy, if anybody could 375 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: play no, no, I mean, it is work. It's just 376 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 1: a little different strategy when you know, you know, when 377 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: we met last year, you were at twenty six thousand subscribers. 378 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: When we talk last when you're you're right almost fifty now, yeah, yeah, 379 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: so this working. I mean obviously, so something's working there 380 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: and you're not doing the consistency. You're not hitting the 381 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: consistency part of that algorithm to drive you up. But 382 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,479 Speaker 1: when you do put a video out, I'm sure that 383 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: once people start watching it, then YouTube goes, hey, they're 384 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: watching bar Hunt magazine videos. So they start clicking and 385 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 1: start putting your thumbnail up above everybody else is for 386 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: a while, and then Peter's off. I'm sure that they, yeah, 387 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: start driving it back down. It's so interesting to me 388 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,479 Speaker 1: from a marketing perspective, all that stuff. But we had 389 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: a video, well that bear video, the Roy Clark you know, 390 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: uh Appalachian Laurel Mountain bear video. This last week it 391 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: got like sixty five thousand views. Yeah, it was dead 392 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: for a year, I mean, just gaining like views a month. 393 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: I can't tell you why that happens either, it will 394 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,719 Speaker 1: random does that happened too? It goes. It happens all 395 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: the time. Now. The only one that stayed consistently growing 396 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: is the one we have with every three inion views. 397 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: It just keeps going, keeps going, keeps going. It's not 398 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: extremely fast, but it's also not slow. I mean, it 399 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: just it doesn't stop. And um, the biggest reason why is, uh, 400 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: what I believe is the thumbnail. I think the thumbnail 401 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: when it comes to YouTube videos, and that's what people 402 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 1: will put all their work into the video. But when 403 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: we first got started, we actually talked to someone locally 404 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: and he said, if you spend you know, three hours 405 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: editing the video, you need to spend two hours on 406 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: your thumbnail. Which you know that's probably overdoing it. He 407 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: was making a point to me, and it's stuck to it. 408 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: Stuck with me because I figured that out. So I'll 409 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 1: think of a you know, my when I'm out there 410 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: hunting or I'm out there doing whatever, the whole time, 411 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: I'm thinking what would be a catchy thumbnail, because the 412 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: first thing you gotta get someone to do is click 413 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: on the video before anything. It doesn't matter how good 414 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: the video is if they don't click on it. Yeah, 415 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: the our our best videos have good thumbnails and that 416 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: that usually is a big part of it. But well, uh, 417 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: so you're you're working full time, and so the un 418 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: teamed guys, you guys turkey hunt, you're deer hunting, your 419 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: bear hunting. Those are the main things you're doing, right, Yeah, 420 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: Turkey bear deer, and then we will travel to like 421 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: like we just got back from Mountain Lawn. Yeah yeah, yeah. 422 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 1: But now the new Mexico stuff. Y'all just put out 423 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: that this year. When when was that decent Thanksgiving week? Yeah? Man, 424 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: that was awesome. Well, the one video was from last 425 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: year when the very first one, so I saved did 426 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: something we normally won't do, saved a video from two 427 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: thousand and eight. Well it was two thousand nineteen in 428 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: January last year, and and uh, I saved it because 429 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: I knew we were going to go back out there. 430 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 1: So I was gonna let that video kick things off 431 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: for the new set of videos, hoping it was just 432 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 1: kind of a shot in the dark, hoping that this 433 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: year panned out, which I was guessing it was going to, Yeah, 434 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: because we just went in with a different strategy. Yeah, 435 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: and it panned out so nice. Well for for anybody 436 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: that's not seen your white tail stuff, then you are 437 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: killing some incredible deer there in West Virginia. Is it 438 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: West Virginia? I thought we were hunting up in Kentucky. Yeah, yeah, 439 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: no it Uh, we we had a good year the 440 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: first mean, I was just surprised that the quality of 441 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: bucks that you all pretty consistently see, right, I think 442 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 1: that surprised a lot of people. It does. It does 443 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 1: because you don't when you think of West Virginia, you 444 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: don't think of big white. You don't think of white 445 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: to hunt. No, nobody does. Yeah, Um, especially in the 446 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: in the industry now and then the spot in stock 447 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm like you guys are doing, describe describe a hunt 448 00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: in those places you are hunting, Josh, Um, miserable. Miserable, No, 449 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: not miserable. In the train it's and it's fast. I mean, 450 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: you know how in the Midwest you've got these big 451 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: valleys and canyons and yeah, it'll take you all day 452 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: to walk from one side of the other. And in 453 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: southern West Virginia where we hunt, I mean you'll be 454 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: the top of a ridge in the creek and on 455 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: the other other side of the ridge an hour and 456 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: a half. You know, it's it's straight up, straight down, 457 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: back down. Yeah, and we're hunting. And then we hunting 458 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: an old old coal mine and reclamation. So it's kind 459 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: of like so it's open when they when they get 460 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: down with the reclamation part of it. I mean, it 461 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: kind of reminds you of the Midwest of kind of 462 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: the rolling hills and the kind of prairie until it 463 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: grows up. Now, when it's it grows up, it's just 464 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: a big forest. Call. So you're you're nasty, thick hunting 465 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: time the way you are hunting, and that I guess 466 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 1: is sort of limited. Well that stuff grow back, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 467 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: So like it's kind of strange. But like just because 468 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: this area is awesome right now, we're able to and 469 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: not that it gets bad, but you're you're hunting style 470 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: has to change because it's just like our clear cuts. 471 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you'll probably have clear cuts. I mean, we're 472 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: they're they're cutting and they plant pines. Maybe you don't, 473 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: I don't know, but in Arkansas they do that. And 474 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: then you know, you'll have five six years before the 475 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: pine trees grow up so tall that it's just a thicket, right, 476 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: you know, but before you might be able to see 477 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: three yards and too. You know when they say they 478 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: freshly uh you know, reclaiming area something, well they'll use 479 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: like hydro seed and you know they'll be clover and stuff, 480 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: and so you know, there's it's almost like a mountain 481 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: food plot that we don't have the luxury of ever 482 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: hunting other than when something like that happens. They're still 483 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: mining there and doing stuff like that. Oh yeah, so 484 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: there'll be new places you can. Well, the surface my 485 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: is going is going away. Just they're just taking they're 486 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: peeling the tops off these mountains. Yeah, and then and 487 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: then they put it back, but just not to that. 488 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: So if you haven't seen their videos, these guys are 489 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: glassing on tops of these big ridges and seeing seeing 490 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: across big valleys and spotting deer and then moving around 491 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: and and that's what you know on our videos. It 492 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: is so hard to show the viewers. Kirk does a 493 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: great job in in a fifteen minute span to show 494 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: the viewers that what a day's like. But we might 495 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: last for three hours and not see anything. Yeah, and 496 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: you just get headaches and it might not see anything. 497 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: It's just like the video of him we were talking 498 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: about it last night of him spotting is talking that 499 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: that Bucky he shot in the early season. I mean 500 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: they laid down the human lane. They laid down there 501 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: for three hours in the rain, sixty yards from this 502 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: deer and stayed right there until the deer stood up. 503 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: But you can't put that three hours in there. Nobody's 504 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: gonna watch it. Um So it's hard to, yeah, to 505 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: show really how difficult it is. Yeah, in the time 506 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: and the in the in the misery and you know, 507 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: not misery because you're after loving what you do, right, 508 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: But I'm saying it's sometimes it's it's really tough. But 509 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: I mean we hunt on the I think introduced Kirk 510 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: to hunting on the ground. Yeah, I mean I didn't. 511 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: I grew up hunting like, uh what typically most people do, 512 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: Like a hunted a piece of private property. It was 513 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: just like a basically like a family farm. We had 514 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: you know, stands here on that point, you know that 515 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: cut through whatever, you know, the typical spots like that, 516 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: and uh it my my style of hunting was what 517 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: I would think like most p people do, you know, 518 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: not not what we're doing now. What we're doing now 519 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: is like the Midwest, like the it's like multier hunting 520 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: or something. That's fun. That's what it's so crazy about it, right, 521 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: it's a it's so I mean, it's extremely fun. Is 522 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: there a lot of that kind of country over there? Um? 523 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: A decent amount. Yeah, I mean there's it's not it's 524 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: not all over the place. You got to be in 525 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: the right areas. But yeah, yeah, so I mean it's like, well, 526 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: I could guess that in the stand and hope something 527 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: comes to this funnel, or I can go out there 528 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: and chase them down in gilly suits and try to 529 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: make it happen. You know, were you hunting like that 530 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: your whole life? Yeah, I've hunted on the ground. I 531 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: think I've killed two. Two of my dear have a 532 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: tree stand. Most of your hunting was off the ground. Yeah, 533 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: we taught you to do that. Did you just start? Know? 534 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: When I got out of the service um Apacan buddies 535 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: with a guy named Keith Alfrey, and uh, we started 536 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,239 Speaker 1: hal hunting together wild boar and we started hunting them 537 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: on the ground. And I was watching him hunt on 538 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: the ground then just like spotting stock hunting them. Yeah, dogs, No, 539 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: you can't hunting hawks with dogs there in West Virginia. 540 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,959 Speaker 1: But just hunting on the ground and jumping them up 541 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: and then stalking them after you jump them. And but 542 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: then we started deer hunting, and I started deer hunting 543 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: with him, and he would he would walk, grunt, he'd 544 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: blind snort ways, um everything. And I was like, and 545 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,959 Speaker 1: then we started killing deer. Nick we we we doubled 546 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: up one day and I was like hooked. We killed 547 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: two pope and young deer on the ground on one day. 548 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: And I was like, man, this is the best thing ever. 549 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: And you see so much. That's the greatest thing, you know. 550 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: I'm not real keen on. I mean I do it 551 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: because I think that there are certain times that you 552 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: need to hang in the tree all day long. Um 553 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: Like if I mean, like you know, Ohio or something, 554 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: we don't have the same terrain that we're do in 555 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: West Virginia. UM, So I think that you know, there's 556 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: times that hunt on the ground, but you see so 557 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: much and you see something dear opportunities. It's just like 558 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: Kirk said, you can you can sit in this stand, 559 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: in this saddle or wherever on this ridge on this 560 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: point and wait for a deer to come. Or you 561 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: can go out there and you can see there and 562 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: try to make it happen. Now, you're your chances of 563 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: getting a shot in that saddle, in that tree stand 564 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: are higher if a deer comes through, higher percentage chance 565 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: of Yes, absolutely I think may sit there for three days. 566 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: So on the ground, I don't think that the success 567 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: rate of getting a shot it is lower. But you'll learn, 568 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: you're you will learn a lot about the game's terrain. 569 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: It's more fun and it's and it works for it. 570 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: Like we said, it ties into content because now we're 571 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: getting Yeah, we spooked the buck, but we got a 572 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: YouTube video out of it, you know, you know, and 573 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: we don't care if we spoke a buck. And we're 574 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: not like most. I mean, I get the thrill of 575 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: I'm you know, I hang chalk cameras and stuff, but 576 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: I'll take it, you know, a good buck, you know, 577 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: I'll shoot it. I mean, it doesn't have to be 578 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: a monster. It doesn't have to be that deer that 579 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm hunting. You know where the business we're in, uh 580 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: we are, you know, Josh always says we're opportunists. You know, 581 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: we don't. We don't pass up good bucks. We care 582 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: less you know, uh you know about killing big giants 583 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 1: or something, but we will. I mean, you know, everybody, everybody, 584 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: everybody wants to kill Crockett just to give an idea 585 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: of how good some of these deer are. How big 586 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: was that dear that trace killed this year. Oh that 587 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: was I believe it. And uh, it grossed almost one 588 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: almost one night. What are you serious? Yeah, in West Virginia. 589 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 1: And yeah, you know those pictures. I thought, I mean, 590 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 1: just because of where it was from, I thought, there's 591 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: no way that deer is as big as it looks. 592 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,439 Speaker 1: I mean, nothing against them. And I didn't. I knew 593 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: it wasn't a trick photo. It was just like, that's 594 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,439 Speaker 1: a huge deer, that deer um in that area, that 595 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: there was one killed a few years ago. Um that 596 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,439 Speaker 1: scored two at three And we believe that might that 597 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: that dear has some relation to it, whether it's his 598 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 1: father that he didn't video that he did not know. Yeah, 599 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: he was just hunting. I mean, Tracey's kind of took 600 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: a step back because of his works. He's a pipeliner 601 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: so and he's seven days a week, so he took 602 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: kind of a a step back from the video. So 603 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: that's his second boom. Crockett deer in West Virginia. That's incredible. Yeah, 604 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: Zach's killed one or two, he's killed two boot and Crocketts. 605 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: Is that in West Virginia. Another buddy of ours just 606 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: killed too. Bootm. Crockett's his brother killed one Bootom Crockett. Um, 607 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: yeah you got killed. His brother killed one this year. Yeah. Yeah. 608 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: It is a great uh white tail. And it for 609 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: the people listening we hunt in bow only county? Is 610 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: that because there's so many people there? Why did they 611 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: do there's four counties in West Virginia that are bow only. 612 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: There's no muzzleload or no no firearms whatsoever. They closed 613 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine because of the dear population. Um, 614 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: there were no dear so it wasn't a safety concern. Well, 615 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: I think part of it was safety. Um, there were 616 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: there had been a couple of shooting accidents. There was 617 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: a safety concern and low deer population. And then low 618 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: deer population there was no hunting at all. No, yeah, 619 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: I mean it didn't no bow hunting anything. And then 620 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: they and what they did was because of how low 621 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: the dear population was. We talked about hogs. They brought 622 00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: in wild hogs ums and and that's what people get. 623 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: You're like, uh, you think, like why wouldn't they let 624 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: you know, everywhere else in the country. You go, They're like, 625 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 1: uh uh, wipe the hogs out, you know, kill them 626 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: all you know, trap them that you know, you got 627 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: that attitude towards them. But our hogs are like they're 628 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: supposed to be on wild, so they don't they don't 629 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: spread like those Ferrell hogs do. And so you know, 630 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: I don't know how long the hog has been there, 631 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: but they're still in the same area they put them 632 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,240 Speaker 1: in years and years ago. And they brought those hogs 633 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: in because there was nothing else for people to hunt. Really, yeah, 634 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: y'all just do things a little different West Virginia, don't you. Yeah? Yeah, 635 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: Like how many states bring hogs and release them? Oh man, 636 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: I had no idea. Yeah, yeah, And so that those 637 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: bow only counties, Um, the deer have time, yes, And 638 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: that's the number one that that That explains a lot 639 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: to me. I mean, I mean, and you let a 640 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: deer get old. It's not only so the rest of 641 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 1: the part of the state is three bucks. You can 642 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: kill three bucks, but only is one buck. So you've 643 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: got you know some really, I mean, people will be like, oh, 644 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 1: they've brought deer in from I've heard all kinds. They 645 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 1: brought deer in from Wisconsin. They've brought deer in for 646 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: down there. But that's not the case. Um, the deer 647 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 1: are they just have more time to you know, typically 648 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: you're not and it's not you're you're taking to all 649 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: the right equation. Yeah, that's exactly right. So you're taking 650 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: a place that the dear one have time to grow. 651 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: And number two, it's hard as heck hunting down there. Uh, 652 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: I mean it, it is. Access wise, it's tough. If 653 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: just someone you know, someone comes down there and tries 654 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: to hunt, it's a good luck. Yeah, if you don't 655 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: know the right you know the right thing, the right people, 656 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: the right I mean, you will learn quickly. If you 657 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: and Kobe would come down or to bow hunt, obviously 658 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 1: you all would happen in with us. But it's not 659 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 1: a resident at the nation, right, you might you might 660 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: run into crazy Billy up the Holliday. You might bring 661 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 1: come out with a shotgun just because Yeah, very little. 662 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: I say the same thing about Arkansas to keep people 663 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,800 Speaker 1: out there. We're very we have secret we have quink. 664 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: We have very little little public land. You don't have 665 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: public land. We have very little. Okay, Now a lot 666 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 1: of West Virginia has a lot of public am I right? 667 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 1: And like say the county, I'm I'm from Boone County. 668 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,839 Speaker 1: I don't think there's actually any public land in that time. 669 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,879 Speaker 1: I see. That's surprising to me. Yeah, and I think 670 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 1: that we, you know, Boone County actually might be the 671 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: only county in the entire state. That's cool, man, that's 672 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 1: all news to me. I didn't I didn't realize that. 673 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: So that's why the quality of deer is where it's at. Yeah, 674 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: in those southern four counties. They call him the Southern 675 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: four hunting only counties. Oh that's cool man, Um, that's cool. 676 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: So that that's what gives them time and there everything 677 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: all game really flourishes down there. Do you have real 678 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: good turkey hunting? Oh? Yeah? Man? How many? This is 679 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: how I know. This is my gauge. I mean maybe 680 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: it's everybody's gauge, but I know what I would tell 681 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: you if I was talking about Arkansas, perfect morning in 682 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,879 Speaker 1: the spring, standing on a ridge, bartel hoot, how many 683 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: gobblers you gonna hear? Gobble? You might not hear him 684 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: none less depends on that morning. I mean, I mean, 685 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:37,399 Speaker 1: would that be some places where you'd hear oh? Yeah, absolutely, yeah. 686 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,439 Speaker 1: I mean I'm talking thing in the world. Okay, would 687 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: you would you hear? Would you hear twenty. No, I 688 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: don't think I have a piece of property, um, now 689 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 1: that is loaded with turkeys. I mean, like I he's 690 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: never took me down there. Yeah, this is a secret 691 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 1: piece of property. Okay, they know what county it's in, 692 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:06,280 Speaker 1: hel wrong county. But a lot of people too about Arkansas. 693 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:10,800 Speaker 1: Don't worry. I know you're lying, but it is. I 694 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 1: mean it's actually kind of different terrain and it's part 695 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: of the reason why. Um, it's like rolling it more 696 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: rolling hills and stuff. Which is I prefer hunting that 697 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 1: turkey hunting then that straight up and down you know. Um, 698 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: but I mean it really is. I mean I tagged 699 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: out the first two days season. Uh, I made turkeys. 700 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: Can you kill too? Just to so? I mean he 701 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 1: you killed one out there? He missed one too, Yeah, 702 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: the first turkey ever missed. I'll get you. Yeah, you 703 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,320 Speaker 1: could that you could. You could hear tin twill birds 704 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 1: for sure in the mornings. You know there's a lot 705 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:55,359 Speaker 1: of birds in West Virginia. Josh, what's your what's your 706 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 1: favorite thing to hunt? Well, let me let me let 707 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: me back up from that question. I think, uh, I 708 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 1: think you guys kind of represent kind of the the 709 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: true Southern woodsman in that I find a lot of 710 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: Western guys maybe, and that's the wrong way to say it. 711 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: My dad wanted me to be a He called it 712 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: a pH d. He said, I want you to have 713 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: a PhD in Arkansas hunting. He wanted me to be 714 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: a deer hunter, turkey hunter, bear hunter, you know, like 715 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 1: do all these things? Well, know how to you know, 716 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: just be a woodsman that could hunt all year round. 717 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: That that's the way I perceive you. It's somebody that's 718 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 1: doing a lot of stuff. Am I righting? Yeah? I 719 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,720 Speaker 1: mean I are you a good turkey hunter? I killed turkeys? 720 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,800 Speaker 1: Am I the best collar in the world? No? Do 721 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: I get up every morning? Do I hunt until legal 722 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 1: time every day? Absolutely? You do? Does that present opportunities? 723 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: It does? That goes back to the hard work I 724 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: believe in it. I mean, am I the best turkey collar? No? 725 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 1: But do I kill turkeys every year? I? Absolutely will? Yeah. 726 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: I love smashing the heads. You get a little bit 727 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 1: excited when you kill them, don't you. Yeah. Back to 728 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: the three million views, That's probably part of the reason 729 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: why Alice video does good because I don't think I've 730 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 1: ever seen someone freak out like you did on a 731 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: few days. Uh yeah, yeah, baby, you know, and then 732 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 1: you know I get excited. I mean, um, I love turkey, 733 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,359 Speaker 1: I mean I love it all. Um, if I if 734 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: if I could do it twelve months out of the year, 735 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,359 Speaker 1: I would, I mean, which which we hunt probably nine 736 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: or ten months out of the year because we predator hunt. 737 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:52,879 Speaker 1: I mean, as soon as we get back from here, 738 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna start predator hunting and we'll do 739 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: that for a couple of months and then back into 740 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:03,720 Speaker 1: turkey hunting and the um training season after turkey season, 741 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 1: where what's your favorite? Um, what's your favorite thing? You 742 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 1: gotta have one that you wouldn't Actually you can just 743 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 1: pick one. Do you just get one time of year? 744 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 1: I cut in though it really I just I could 745 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 1: care less if I'm even hunting anything. I just like 746 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 1: being outside. Um yeah, I mean yeah, you know I'm not. 747 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 1: I like being out there. I mean I love turkey hunting. 748 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,879 Speaker 1: I love dear hunting. I love my hounds. Yeah, there's 749 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:44,720 Speaker 1: no better. There's nothing better in those in those tide 750 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 1: hollis in southern West Virginia. I'm telling you right now, Clay, 751 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 1: there's not a better sound than a pack of five 752 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,840 Speaker 1: head of hands coming through it and you hear you 753 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 1: hear them from way off and it's just like a 754 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,840 Speaker 1: it's all together. And then as they get closer and 755 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,240 Speaker 1: closer than you start haying, Hey, that's gage, that's that's bliss, 756 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 1: that's you know, you start hearing all the separate barks 757 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 1: and it's I'm telling you man. And then in those 758 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 1: tight I mean, it's just a great sound. I love 759 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,839 Speaker 1: hearing that. And um, and then when I got into 760 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,720 Speaker 1: hound hunting, Um, I started doing it, you know, twenty 761 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 1: years ago, but when I started getting my own dogs 762 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 1: and my son, that's the big thing with me too 763 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: on a hound hunting is it it's such an easy 764 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 1: way to get your kids outside. Um My son has 765 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 1: been He went to his first tree. He was almost 766 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 1: three years old. He was doing diapers. I mean, I 767 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 1: had a diaper in my back pocket and wet white, 768 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 1: you know when we went to the tree. And and 769 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 1: to this day he absolutely like he's never killed a bear, 770 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 1: and I don't know how many he's seen. But we 771 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 1: have so many kids and it's just it's such an 772 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 1: easy way to introduce kids to the outdoors. Because of 773 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 1: attention Spain. There's always something happening when you're head hunting, 774 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,800 Speaker 1: and if it is, if there is a don't have 775 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 1: to be quiet, don't have to worry about scent, you 776 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,799 Speaker 1: don't have to work camouflages. But what I've told them 777 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 1: because when I was working at Buck Commander, I mean 778 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: I was filming Duck Commander two, I was like, this 779 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: is our duck hunting, Like what they do? You know 780 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 1: you have to sit there and beetles still when you've 781 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,879 Speaker 1: got ducks flying in whatever. But it's so relaxed. Yeah, 782 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 1: there's other people involved. I was like, that's a good 783 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 1: disc this version of duck hunting. And because we really 784 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 1: don't waterfoul hunt at all. I mean you know some 785 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 1: people do in West Virginia, but it's very, very minimal. 786 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 1: But I can answer your question. My favorite is hound 787 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 1: hunting for real, for real, And I see that surprises 788 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 1: me because you didn't even you didn't grow up with 789 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 1: hound right, really like better than deer hunting. Absolutely do 790 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,879 Speaker 1: deer hunting. I get stressed out and stuff when I'm 791 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 1: hound hunting. I mean I I've I'm obsessed with it 792 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 1: right now. I mean now I love he Yeah, the 793 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 1: day that he came hunting with us with the crazy 794 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,800 Speaker 1: guy when he was the crazy guy, and he I 795 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 1: will I could say, I could probably answer that for 796 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: you and tell you that your favorite because he's doing 797 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 1: something every day with the hounds. Yeah, I mean every 798 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 1: like that. The other day we killed a bobcat with 799 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,800 Speaker 1: our hounds in West Virginia. Um, and then you know, 800 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 1: the next night I was coon hunting, you know, with 801 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 1: them same dogs. Like we don't will you call our 802 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 1: dogs meat dogs? Meat dogs? There's there's two things we 803 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 1: don't want them to run well to genera, you know, 804 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 1: we don't want them to run deer and Cootie's He's like, 805 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:38,240 Speaker 1: but I'll hunt mine on bobcat, uh, cons, bears whatever, 806 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 1: take them to New Mexico for lines. Yeah. Yeah, man, 807 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 1: that's that is really cool to hear. Yeah, that's cool 808 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 1: to hear. You know. The so we can't run big 809 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 1: game in Arkansas, but we coon hunt and my my 810 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:56,040 Speaker 1: dogs all their litter mates and all the lineage of 811 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,759 Speaker 1: my plots of big game dogs. So I kind of 812 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,360 Speaker 1: have I feel like I've got a hand ending the 813 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 1: big game dog, you know, but coon hunting for us 814 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 1: all the I mean, I've taken I don't even want 815 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 1: to say a number because I don't. I mean, fifty 816 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 1: plus maybe a hundred people that have never hunted coon 817 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 1: hunting with us over the last four years. I mean, 818 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 1: it's and it's a it's a different introduction to people 819 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 1: because it's uh, you know, I mean it's not the classic, 820 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 1: but it's not the typical hunt that people think about. 821 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 1: It is a little different. But I've got a I've 822 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 1: got a spiel that I tell everybody while we're driving 823 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 1: to where we're going hunting. I mean, I I make 824 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 1: I don't care if it's an adult. I'm like, I've 825 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 1: got a two part spiel that I'm gonna give you. First, 826 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,920 Speaker 1: first of it's about plot hounds, and the second of 827 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 1: it's about coon hunting. And I talked to him about striking, trailing, 828 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,760 Speaker 1: locating tree and talk about I mean, people don't know anything. 829 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: They think your dogs out there looking for a coon, 830 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 1: like literally see in a coon and chasing it and 831 00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,359 Speaker 1: trying to you know what. I'm like, No, they're they're 832 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 1: trailing ground scent and there, you know, talk to him 833 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 1: about a layoup. Anyway, I have a I have a 834 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 1: pretty polished spield that I give everybody. But but I've 835 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: never taken anyone coon hunting that had a bad experience, 836 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, it's it's social, it's fun, it's 837 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,279 Speaker 1: exciting to be on the woods at night. Um. But 838 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,320 Speaker 1: it I mean, when I think about the number of 839 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 1: people I've introduced to bow hunting white tail deer, it's 840 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 1: a very small it's a very small number because it's 841 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,279 Speaker 1: it's such a specific I mean, they've got to be 842 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 1: proficient with a weapon, they've got to be able to 843 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,399 Speaker 1: store meat, and you know that they're not just gonna 844 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 1: kill a deer. Those number, those numbers will will continue 845 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 1: to decrease unless we do a better job at introducing Yeah, 846 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 1: because it's not easy to introduce somebody to white tail hunt. Um. 847 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 1: It's not easy to introduce somebody to turkey in when 848 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,280 Speaker 1: you can take them out. Yeah, and we've took several 849 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,279 Speaker 1: people out turkey hunting, Um, but it's not as easy 850 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 1: as taking them up whether you're coon hunting. It would 851 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 1: be easy taking somebody out of cat hunting. Yeah. You know, 852 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 1: I think a lot of these people too. I mean, like, 853 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 1: of to all the people that have coon hunting with me, say, 854 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 1: most of those people aren't gonna be hunters. I mean 855 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 1: honestly that I'm not. They're not probably gonna be hunters, 856 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,359 Speaker 1: but some of them will be. But they they at 857 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 1: least have a frame of reference for the rest of 858 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 1: their life. And a lot of these people are kids, 859 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 1: and at some point they're gonna go, here's something about 860 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 1: hunters and they go, yeah, I used to hunt with 861 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 1: Mr Clay and Shepherd, and you know, he'll have a 862 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 1: positive image inside of his worldview for hunting because he 863 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:44,319 Speaker 1: knew somebody. And you know, I mean there's benefiting. There's 864 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,399 Speaker 1: been a you know, we talked about recruitment and people 865 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,920 Speaker 1: sticking into hunting, which is what we want, you know, 866 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 1: I mean, we want someone that goes hunting and becomes 867 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 1: a hunter, kind of an autonomous hunter on their own. 868 00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 1: You know. But even if you take somebody hunting and 869 00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 1: they have a positive experience, that's a benefit for us too, 870 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 1: because the people that are going to ultimately make decisions 871 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 1: for us and hunting are the people who aren't hunters. 872 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:12,239 Speaker 1: But if they had I mean, even these people, these 873 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:13,959 Speaker 1: kids go you know, we took a bunch of people, 874 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 1: a bunch of kids hunting around Christmas time. Well, they 875 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 1: were talking about that at their Christmas and maybe they 876 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 1: were talking that about that with their cousins who never 877 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,279 Speaker 1: knew about hunters, and you know, it just it's just 878 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 1: a positive thing, like just just kind of a buzz 879 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,799 Speaker 1: inside their world that we went cool nuting last week hunting. Yeah, 880 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,279 Speaker 1: that was great, was fun. That's a positive thing because 881 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,040 Speaker 1: those people all of a sudden, they're like, well maybe 882 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:40,040 Speaker 1: maybe hunters aren't Barbara, you know, the the second tier people, right, Yeah, 883 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,640 Speaker 1: so there's there's benefits inside of that stuff, even though 884 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,120 Speaker 1: we're probably not recruiting. But I mean everything said there 885 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 1: you yet the nail on ahead. I mean, that was 886 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,360 Speaker 1: you're exactly right. Yeah, something I'd like to touch on. 887 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,920 Speaker 1: You were talking about, um, you're you know, you're getting 888 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:58,040 Speaker 1: to um. You said, like like guys out out west 889 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,920 Speaker 1: and they kind of focus on this is changing subjects here, 890 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,239 Speaker 1: but they kind of focus on like just white tail 891 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 1: or something. And there's people like where we live that 892 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 1: just focus on white tail, and I feel like they 893 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,360 Speaker 1: are I was the same way. I mean, I just was. 894 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 1: I was a proud white tail you know, big buck hunter, 895 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,319 Speaker 1: but I was missing out on so much different hunting 896 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,759 Speaker 1: styles when I got introduced to hound hunting, and I'm like, 897 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 1: these guys are just white to hunt and I'm like, listen, 898 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,320 Speaker 1: it's fun and all guys, but you're missing out on 899 00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,839 Speaker 1: a great hunting experience. And uh, I think, I mean, 900 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,040 Speaker 1: I think more people and when we try to, like 901 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 1: we said, we try to bring people hunting, but if 902 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:36,680 Speaker 1: more people would try it and they would be like wow, 903 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 1: especially hunters, you know, they're like, wow, this is not 904 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,240 Speaker 1: what I thought. It was. Like this is fun because 905 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,320 Speaker 1: you find a lot of you know, just white tail hunters, 906 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,000 Speaker 1: but also you know there's a lot of like just 907 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,439 Speaker 1: coon hunters and just bear hunters, and like you see 908 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 1: on our YouTube channel, we try to do it all. 909 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what man. I think. I think we're 910 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 1: pretty diverse fund. I mean, if you if you look 911 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 1: on other people's YouTube channel and there's a lot of 912 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:04,719 Speaker 1: great animals out there, but they're focused on white tail 913 00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 1: in Turkey or they're elk hunters, and we we want 914 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,360 Speaker 1: with the End Team, we kind of just wanted to 915 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 1: be um, we're not focused on anything. We're just focused 916 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,680 Speaker 1: on the outdoors and in our way of living. I mean, 917 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 1: I feel like I've introduced Kirk to several things. Since 918 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 1: we've been in business in the outdoor, since we've had 919 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,280 Speaker 1: the entertainment, it's been great because he's because he's learned 920 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,920 Speaker 1: and got so much better at it than what we 921 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,879 Speaker 1: You know, it's fun to watch Kirk grow as that outdoorsman, 922 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,319 Speaker 1: not as a hunter, as a a woodsman you were 923 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,239 Speaker 1: talking about. And that's what we want to do. You know, 924 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,919 Speaker 1: I want my son to be a woodsman care less 925 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,279 Speaker 1: we knows how to hunt deer. I want to know 926 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,840 Speaker 1: how to hunt everything. When you said that, you know 927 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,400 Speaker 1: you want to have a PhD in Arkansas hunting, And 928 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 1: that's that's the same way that I look at it too. 929 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,839 Speaker 1: I mean I don't just nailed down to one thing 930 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,399 Speaker 1: I love doing. Like I got trapped setting out, ready 931 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 1: to go home. I'm gonna go set traps soon as 932 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,239 Speaker 1: we get back. You know. Yeah, well I think what 933 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 1: I think what you guys are doing. Um, it was 934 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 1: specifically with hound hunting. To go back to that. I mean, 935 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 1: hound hunting is people just media has stayed away from 936 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 1: it on purpose. I mean it's almost like in the 937 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,280 Speaker 1: last if you think about when outdoor television really started 938 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:32,320 Speaker 1: kind of in the nineties, that indoctrinated people so strongly, 939 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:37,280 Speaker 1: and white tails was where the money was. White tails 940 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,799 Speaker 1: was white tails were widely distributed. Nothing against white tails. 941 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,200 Speaker 1: I love hunting them just as much as anything. I hunt, 942 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,399 Speaker 1: absolutely and commit as much time to it. But it's 943 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:50,800 Speaker 1: like people, just like in everything people, that's just what 944 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,320 Speaker 1: they focused on. And it was highly influenced by outdoor 945 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,960 Speaker 1: media also opportunity. I mean, there's a lot of pros 946 00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 1: to white hunting, but what's what's happening now with platforms YouTube, 947 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 1: It's like, uh, it's like you don't have they the 948 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,960 Speaker 1: content doesn't follow the money, if I could put it 949 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,919 Speaker 1: that way, you know, I mean, like there's there's never been. 950 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,839 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is that you're free to show who 951 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:20,839 Speaker 1: you are without the constraints of some big sponsor telling 952 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,440 Speaker 1: you what you need to do to get the views. 953 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:29,080 Speaker 1: But that's but people like that authenticity and and we're 954 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,040 Speaker 1: and you're showing people a whole bunch of new stuff 955 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,840 Speaker 1: inside hunting that maybe they were never exposed to that 956 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,920 Speaker 1: the mainstream media did not expose people too. And I mean, 957 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,600 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the greatest things about And 958 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 1: it don't matter if you're on the YouTube platform. Now 959 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:51,879 Speaker 1: we like the YouTube platform, but the the commercialization, yeah, 960 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:57,680 Speaker 1: of the outdoor industry, they've killed themselves, um like any 961 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,719 Speaker 1: other basically, you know, if you don't know talking talking 962 00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:04,319 Speaker 1: about like just pushing product product products people this deer 963 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,239 Speaker 1: without this, that and the other. You know, and yes, 964 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,560 Speaker 1: I mean Cope could go out and what he's wearing 965 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 1: right now and kill dear. If you're put yourself in 966 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,160 Speaker 1: the right situation, and we don't, we're never going to 967 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,600 Speaker 1: get in a position that we have to. We have 968 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,880 Speaker 1: to be told that we're doing stuff like that. That's 969 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,880 Speaker 1: where you were talking about. You know, you don't have 970 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 1: we don't have these sponsors telling us. Yeah, we have 971 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,480 Speaker 1: a couple of sponsors that we're working with right now, 972 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,760 Speaker 1: but we're very choosy. But and they understand your platform, 973 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,440 Speaker 1: understand that. If they don't understand, we don't deal with 974 00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 1: them because and they've been great, they're very soft sales. 975 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,839 Speaker 1: If you can show our products are stuff. If you can't, 976 00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:48,520 Speaker 1: we'll catch it next time. It's not like you're gonna 977 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:52,560 Speaker 1: have to put us on their hard part to stay 978 00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,920 Speaker 1: in that way, right because money, you know, money talks, 979 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 1: and money is what makes things. And you see, you 980 00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:03,239 Speaker 1: see these some of these bigger outdoor platforms. It's hard 981 00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:07,399 Speaker 1: to when when you get to a certain place, yeah, 982 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 1: because I'm always curious about that. It's like you have 983 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,640 Speaker 1: to I mean you you do have to have money, 984 00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 1: you do have to have sponsors. That's how we're able 985 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,480 Speaker 1: to do it full time, you know. But there's a 986 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,720 Speaker 1: happy medium there where you don't get to, I guess 987 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,520 Speaker 1: money crazy and and start doing things that you typically 988 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 1: you know, you don't want to get away from you know, 989 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,040 Speaker 1: what we're doing now, We never want to get away 990 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,920 Speaker 1: from it. We always want to stay in check. Yeah, 991 00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,840 Speaker 1: because as soon as we start, you know, pushing products 992 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,120 Speaker 1: and stuff, you know, on people, then we're doing what 993 00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,520 Speaker 1: you know, it's already happened on you know, a lot 994 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,320 Speaker 1: of not not every show does it, but a lot 995 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,240 Speaker 1: of what you see on TV. And we're just not 996 00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,400 Speaker 1: interested in that. And and people will comment on our 997 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,920 Speaker 1: videos saying we love that you guys don't do that. 998 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 1: I mean they've they will come out and say it 999 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,800 Speaker 1: like we enjoy watching the video where you didn't have 1000 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,360 Speaker 1: to name fifteen different products that you were using. We 1001 00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,919 Speaker 1: just watched you use them. But on the flip side, 1002 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:02,720 Speaker 1: you know, you have to have that. You have to. 1003 00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 1: It's expensive doing what we do. Yeah, and it's been 1004 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 1: a it's been an investment for us, you know, the 1005 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,160 Speaker 1: past two years, because you know, we definitely ain't making no, 1006 00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:18,080 Speaker 1: you know, we're not making any money right now. Um. Now, 1007 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,640 Speaker 1: is there a potential? Yeah? There, I hope that there's 1008 00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,120 Speaker 1: potential with what we're doing. I feel like what we're 1009 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,800 Speaker 1: doing is good. Do you ever think about YouTube putting 1010 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,920 Speaker 1: the clamps on you in some way? Oh? Yeah, it 1011 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:34,640 Speaker 1: scares me because we've had a couple of warnings. You 1012 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:40,200 Speaker 1: ever had a video flag? Uh? One time? Only one 1013 00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,440 Speaker 1: you can go? Look because I mean, did you dispute it? 1014 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,560 Speaker 1: We did? Did did you win? I have one to actually, 1015 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,600 Speaker 1: so I take that back. I had one flag that 1016 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,240 Speaker 1: state flag. Now sometimes like I uploaded one and it 1017 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,680 Speaker 1: flagged it immediately and I was like a robot caught that. Like, 1018 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,439 Speaker 1: no one's sitting on YouTube at their headquarters like they've 1019 00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,440 Speaker 1: they've messed up. I've had a couple were like that, 1020 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:04,160 Speaker 1: we've disputed in one. Um. But yeah, well I think 1021 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,320 Speaker 1: I think I have one video that that they said 1022 00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,920 Speaker 1: no it was and I disputed it and they said 1023 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 1: graphic violence. Yeah, they said too intense. This is what 1024 00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:18,320 Speaker 1: they said, and no I did. But it's still still 1025 00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,600 Speaker 1: a lot of tizable video. It is. We always when 1026 00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:25,120 Speaker 1: when when Kirk appealed it, um, which is great because 1027 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,440 Speaker 1: they were going to just kill it, right and when 1028 00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 1: Kirk appelled it, we got an age restriction. But you 1029 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,320 Speaker 1: can't it's it's not monetized. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. 1030 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:39,280 Speaker 1: It's probably okay, of course, I think I think YouTube 1031 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,920 Speaker 1: something has changed because before it's probably before y'all were 1032 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:48,440 Speaker 1: even doing stuff. When I first got on YouTube, my 1033 00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:52,480 Speaker 1: stuff was just getting hammered. Yeah, and I would have 1034 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:57,320 Speaker 1: to dispute it, and some I would win and some 1035 00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:01,360 Speaker 1: I would lose. One of my videos, I honestly think, 1036 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,960 Speaker 1: would probably have been the highest viewed video that we 1037 01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,640 Speaker 1: have if they had not flagged it. Now I lost 1038 01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,040 Speaker 1: the dispute, and it makes no sense. While I lost 1039 01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,000 Speaker 1: the dispute and it's just a it's just a bear 1040 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:15,240 Speaker 1: kill with a boat. I mean, there was nothing. I 1041 01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,120 Speaker 1: didn't even show skin in it or in in Uh. 1042 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:22,120 Speaker 1: That video at the time was gaining fifty thousand views 1043 01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 1: a day. I mean, it was just like and it 1044 01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,400 Speaker 1: got up to two or fifty thousand views that got flagged. 1045 01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,200 Speaker 1: I lost the dispute, and and it's still on YouTube, 1046 01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,600 Speaker 1: but it they shut it down, they don't promote it, 1047 01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,480 Speaker 1: and the video still has six hundred thousand views, so 1048 01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,520 Speaker 1: it got you know, three and fifty thousand views, just 1049 01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,520 Speaker 1: like I think that video probably would have just marched 1050 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,720 Speaker 1: up if it hadn't got shut down. And that's crazy 1051 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,880 Speaker 1: that YouTube. I mean, of course it's their platform. They 1052 01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:50,720 Speaker 1: have the power just to say, oh, no more on 1053 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,760 Speaker 1: that video. But you know, you don't know who also 1054 01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,240 Speaker 1: is reviewing the videos, Like I don't understand how the 1055 01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,640 Speaker 1: process works. Like you might have uh, Tom that YouTube 1056 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,240 Speaker 1: in your video, right, but then a lot of it 1057 01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,800 Speaker 1: is automated. Yeah, when you dispute it, I think it 1058 01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:09,240 Speaker 1: actually goes to yeah, I think you're right on it. Yeah. Yeah, 1059 01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,480 Speaker 1: I've got a trick. I'll tell you after this. I've 1060 01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,480 Speaker 1: got a trick if you're actually doing with a person, 1061 01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:18,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think it might work. But um, Kobe 1062 01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,120 Speaker 1: can even what else would you like to talk to 1063 01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,800 Speaker 1: these guys about? I think I would go back to 1064 01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,000 Speaker 1: the whole thing about sponsorship. I mean, because the thought 1065 01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,080 Speaker 1: I had is like, you're not really looking for sponsors. 1066 01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,440 Speaker 1: You're looking for partners, you know, someone that understands that 1067 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:35,120 Speaker 1: they're partnering with you and something rather than just financing 1068 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,160 Speaker 1: you to do something. I mean, at least that's that's 1069 01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,400 Speaker 1: what I see inside of the pieces. I don't even 1070 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:44,479 Speaker 1: like using the word sponsor, pro staff. I hate those words. Yeah, 1071 01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,600 Speaker 1: and so I think that's something that I've seen inside 1072 01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,160 Speaker 1: of the people that we work with, is it's just 1073 01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,920 Speaker 1: people that were companies that are wanting to partner with 1074 01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,400 Speaker 1: us and they want us to just like use their products. 1075 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,720 Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean sometimes I mean, well, you know, 1076 01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:58,880 Speaker 1: like Instagram and stuff. You know, it's like, hey, we're 1077 01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,040 Speaker 1: using this, but but it's it's more of like it's 1078 01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,720 Speaker 1: more like building a strong partnership and friendship with something 1079 01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:06,880 Speaker 1: that you know, it's like we're with you for the 1080 01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:08,800 Speaker 1: long haul and not just something it's like, well, we're 1081 01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,880 Speaker 1: just here, why it benefits us? You know? Um. And 1082 01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:13,360 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things even up here 1083 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,320 Speaker 1: when we see it's like when we're coming here to 1084 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,240 Speaker 1: a t A, We're we're going and we legitimately just 1085 01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,320 Speaker 1: want to see the people, you know, we're not coming 1086 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,040 Speaker 1: here to like the conversations we're having isn't like, well, 1087 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,080 Speaker 1: what can we do to help you, or what can 1088 01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:26,440 Speaker 1: we do to help you? It's just like, hey man, 1089 01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,200 Speaker 1: how are you doing? You know? And I think building 1090 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:33,160 Speaker 1: relationships has to like it, at least from our platform, 1091 01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,800 Speaker 1: it seems like that's something that that I've seen this 1092 01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,439 Speaker 1: valued more so than just like what the other person 1093 01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 1: gets from the other. It's like, yeah, we're building together, 1094 01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,600 Speaker 1: but at the same time, it's it's more so I 1095 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:44,840 Speaker 1: just like you guys, you know, and and I like 1096 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:48,760 Speaker 1: that we're forging something together that's for our mutual benefit, 1097 01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:54,880 Speaker 1: you know. Well, the I mean the advertising dollars create 1098 01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,520 Speaker 1: false relationship really, I mean, like really what people want 1099 01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:03,560 Speaker 1: to see is they want to know really what Steve 1100 01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:08,280 Speaker 1: Ronnella would use if he wasn't being paid, Like like, 1101 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,440 Speaker 1: that's what you really want to know. And and so 1102 01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,280 Speaker 1: you know, because anybody, I mean, I mean, that's just 1103 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:19,200 Speaker 1: the nature of the planet is money causes people to 1104 01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:23,840 Speaker 1: to do stuff. So we're trying to create these and 1105 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,760 Speaker 1: I and talk about Ronella, I think he's kind of 1106 01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,000 Speaker 1: done that in a lot of ways. He kind of 1107 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:34,480 Speaker 1: helped build the soft sell into a wider market by 1108 01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,040 Speaker 1: the way he kind of did things back eight or 1109 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,800 Speaker 1: nine years ago. But point being, that's what we're trying 1110 01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,040 Speaker 1: to do is just I mean, like in y'are too, 1111 01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,080 Speaker 1: I've talked to you. I mean, you guys are only 1112 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:49,479 Speaker 1: partner with people that you truly believe in using their stuff. Yeah, 1113 01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:54,600 Speaker 1: and then yeah, a company reaches out to us and 1114 01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:56,560 Speaker 1: we haven't used it before, you know, we've never used 1115 01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,120 Speaker 1: that product, but we'll say, okay, you know, send us something. 1116 01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,520 Speaker 1: We'll try it out. You know, we're not just going 1117 01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,080 Speaker 1: to be like, yeah, send it to us, we'll sign 1118 01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 1: this contract and then pay us ten thousand dollars. You know, 1119 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,120 Speaker 1: well you want to try this out, and uh, if 1120 01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,240 Speaker 1: it's something that we're like, hey, this is legit and 1121 01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,920 Speaker 1: we're comfortable, you know, the people that watch our videos 1122 01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,320 Speaker 1: and really enjoy them, we're comfortable you know, telling them 1123 01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,680 Speaker 1: about this, then then we'll go with that company. Yeah. 1124 01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:20,360 Speaker 1: And I think on those videos, one of the things 1125 01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:21,840 Speaker 1: I really like is it just looks like you guys 1126 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:23,760 Speaker 1: are having fun, you know, And I think that's something 1127 01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,520 Speaker 1: that produces a lot of buying on platforms like that, 1128 01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,000 Speaker 1: is they want to see, like again, that relationship and 1129 01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,560 Speaker 1: just having fun and and I think even like being 1130 01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:35,120 Speaker 1: able to show like the relationship between a person in 1131 01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,480 Speaker 1: his how you know, like those relationships are good to 1132 01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:40,320 Speaker 1: see two And I think there's there's a lot of 1133 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,720 Speaker 1: mystery that's been created around those things because you just 1134 01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,440 Speaker 1: don't see it as much. I mean, like I grew up, um, 1135 01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,120 Speaker 1: you know, running coons and and hogs with hounds, and 1136 01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,000 Speaker 1: so it's like I had a view inside of it. 1137 01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,600 Speaker 1: So it was like when I came around the magazine 1138 01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:55,560 Speaker 1: or Clay started putting stuff up, it's like I had 1139 01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,080 Speaker 1: a particular type of buying. They're like seeing big game 1140 01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,680 Speaker 1: hunting with like cat and bears. It's like that's a 1141 01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:03,800 Speaker 1: whole new thing for me. Like whenever I came into it, 1142 01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,200 Speaker 1: but I understood the relationship between like, uh, like we 1143 01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,680 Speaker 1: had hounds and so I understood that relationship, and so 1144 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:11,439 Speaker 1: it was like, man, this is really cool. I didn't 1145 01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:12,880 Speaker 1: know you could run them with with hounds. You know 1146 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:18,960 Speaker 1: it is it is so um hidden in the in 1147 01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:22,440 Speaker 1: the outdoor world, and nobody wants you know, people in 1148 01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,840 Speaker 1: the outdoor world don't want to talk about it because 1149 01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:29,560 Speaker 1: it's like a I don't want to say it's like 1150 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:34,640 Speaker 1: the evil side of hunting. But it's like day and night. 1151 01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:36,720 Speaker 1: If if you're a hound hunter, then you just looked 1152 01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,880 Speaker 1: at differently in the outdoor industry. And and that's what 1153 01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:45,520 Speaker 1: people what we're trying to do is is it doesn't 1154 01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:50,920 Speaker 1: We could care less if you hound hunt, if you 1155 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,800 Speaker 1: bathe hunt. We've talked, we'd go on and on about it, 1156 01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,160 Speaker 1: and it will be the demise of the outdoor industry 1157 01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:01,120 Speaker 1: if we're not altogether. Because there's so many, uh, non 1158 01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:04,320 Speaker 1: hunter interest groups that we don't have to deal with 1159 01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,840 Speaker 1: in West Virginia. Those groups would be stupid to come 1160 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:13,320 Speaker 1: into our borders. Um. But we could care less. And 1161 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:16,160 Speaker 1: that's what the problem. You know, we don't look at 1162 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:20,320 Speaker 1: you know, Clay hunts over bait for bears and you 1163 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,760 Speaker 1: hound hunt too. Yeah does that matter to me? Is 1164 01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,440 Speaker 1: it going to affect me? No? I'm for Clay doing 1165 01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:32,360 Speaker 1: that because he's in the outdoors. He's promoting the outdoor industry. Um. 1166 01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,680 Speaker 1: And that's what Clay always refers to it as is 1167 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:39,640 Speaker 1: bear huntings the low hanging fruit. Yeah, yeah, you said 1168 01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:43,760 Speaker 1: that last year, you know, are this is We talked 1169 01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,360 Speaker 1: about this a lot, but we still haven't clarified it 1170 01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:50,440 Speaker 1: a ton. But I can clarify it. In short, I 1171 01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,680 Speaker 1: think that bear hunting is actually one of the most 1172 01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:57,800 Speaker 1: important pieces of the whole of the hunting scene in 1173 01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:03,440 Speaker 1: North America. Point being that bears are the entry point 1174 01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:08,880 Speaker 1: for the anti hunting sentiment and anti hunting action, legislative action, 1175 01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,520 Speaker 1: everything to come into the hunting space. So if you 1176 01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,480 Speaker 1: were just a monitor the wide sphere of the hunting world, 1177 01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,120 Speaker 1: it's not the Deer's not elk, it's not pheasants, is 1178 01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:21,280 Speaker 1: not ducks, it's bears and lines too, but more bears, 1179 01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:26,080 Speaker 1: and and and So if you were a hundred years 1180 01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,720 Speaker 1: out looking back at this little point in time, and 1181 01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:34,920 Speaker 1: you know that the strategy of anti hunting organizations is incrementalism. 1182 01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:36,920 Speaker 1: They're not trying to knock it all down at once 1183 01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,360 Speaker 1: because they can't. Trying to chip off pieces. If you 1184 01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,200 Speaker 1: look at what they've done over the last fifty years 1185 01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:44,320 Speaker 1: in this country, they've chipped off pieces. They chipped off 1186 01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:46,439 Speaker 1: bear hunting in these days, they chipped off line hunting, 1187 01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:50,240 Speaker 1: they chipped off you know, certain things. So the most 1188 01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:54,439 Speaker 1: important thing at any given time in history in terms 1189 01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:59,440 Speaker 1: of preserving our way of life is that you guard 1190 01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,200 Speaker 1: that low hanging fruit, because if you guard that low 1191 01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,320 Speaker 1: hanging fruit, they can't get to the thing behind it. 1192 01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,200 Speaker 1: And so that's our hashtag. We're using guard the Gate. 1193 01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:11,120 Speaker 1: So we're saying bear hunting is the gate. So there's 1194 01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,360 Speaker 1: a lot of resource and time in the outdoor industry 1195 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,240 Speaker 1: being invested in a lot of different places, which a 1196 01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,280 Speaker 1: lot of that stuff is really good. What I'm saying 1197 01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,680 Speaker 1: is is that we need the broader support of the 1198 01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:26,000 Speaker 1: outdoor community that is targeted towards the preservation of bear hunting, 1199 01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:29,360 Speaker 1: because we got nothing left to give the anti hunting 1200 01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:33,160 Speaker 1: community in two thousand and twenty. I mean, all the 1201 01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:36,200 Speaker 1: all the chief has been blown off by the wind. 1202 01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,559 Speaker 1: I mean, like what we have in North America right 1203 01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,839 Speaker 1: now with our bear hunting with hounds in seventeen states 1204 01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,680 Speaker 1: and our you know, lion hunting in different places. I mean, 1205 01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:48,240 Speaker 1: it has been whittled down to the foundations. And so 1206 01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,080 Speaker 1: my whole thing is, if you're an elk hunter, if 1207 01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:53,760 Speaker 1: you're a deer hunter, if you're this kind of hunter 1208 01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:57,680 Speaker 1: on board with helping, you better be on board with 1209 01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:00,920 Speaker 1: those guys because and now this ten years ago, five 1210 01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,160 Speaker 1: years ago, I might have said this was like fearmongering 1211 01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:06,360 Speaker 1: or something, but it's not. Man. The last seven years 1212 01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,639 Speaker 1: we have been on the forefront, but through Bare Hunting 1213 01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,240 Speaker 1: Magazine being the only bare hunting magazine in the world. 1214 01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,560 Speaker 1: I mean like we have a unique perspective on the 1215 01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:21,880 Speaker 1: on the anti hunting sentiment against bear hunting um just 1216 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:26,599 Speaker 1: because of where we're placed. And I mean they are 1217 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,880 Speaker 1: on track to knock us off the map in the 1218 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,880 Speaker 1: next twenty years. I mean, that's that's there, that's what 1219 01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:39,560 Speaker 1: they think. If they did that, they absolutely would be 1220 01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:43,280 Speaker 1: taking another step up the ladder, which they'd be saying, 1221 01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,760 Speaker 1: you use elk decoys, to use those little puff up 1222 01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:48,600 Speaker 1: decoys that have elk ears on it and look like 1223 01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:52,920 Speaker 1: a cow elk and blow blow calcols when you're elk coming. Really, 1224 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,800 Speaker 1: that sounds unfair to me. I think that's unfair. I 1225 01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,679 Speaker 1: think we're gonna take away all elk colling. Just spot 1226 01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:00,800 Speaker 1: and stock elk hunting. That's all you can do. I mean, 1227 01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:03,240 Speaker 1: that would take the knees out of elk hunting, right, 1228 01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you know that sounds like again five years ago, 1229 01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:09,000 Speaker 1: I said that was just it would be like conspiracy 1230 01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:13,280 Speaker 1: theory or something, but it's not. I mean, North American 1231 01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:18,040 Speaker 1: hunting will be vastly different in twenty five years, fifty years, 1232 01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,840 Speaker 1: ten years. If we don't do something, and I feel 1233 01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:25,280 Speaker 1: like that the bear hunting piece is really critical, I do. Yeah, 1234 01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:29,439 Speaker 1: I completely agree. I mean, and it's not nobody's saying that. 1235 01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's like that, but it's a it's 1236 01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,479 Speaker 1: a broad picture, and it's a long picture, and people 1237 01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:39,000 Speaker 1: have a real hard time looking at the long term 1238 01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:43,680 Speaker 1: picture and the big broad picture because people, Yeah, I mean, 1239 01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:45,720 Speaker 1: we're kind of like the red headed step child of that. 1240 01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you're in the outdoors, you're you're kind of 1241 01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:53,200 Speaker 1: black eyed. And because I mean it, it's hard because 1242 01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:56,120 Speaker 1: you also have fellow hunters that hunt other animals that 1243 01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:59,559 Speaker 1: don't support you, you know, and in that unity, that's 1244 01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:01,400 Speaker 1: what we try to do with our YouTube channel, I mean, 1245 01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:03,800 Speaker 1: because of how diverse we are with you know, we 1246 01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:06,080 Speaker 1: put out a bunch of white tail videos, we put 1247 01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,439 Speaker 1: on a bunch of bear videos. Well, we have people 1248 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:11,920 Speaker 1: that I love our white tail videos. They'll comment like, yeah, 1249 01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,639 Speaker 1: I don't I don't like your your your bear videos, 1250 01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,200 Speaker 1: but I love your white tail stuff. I don't think 1251 01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,679 Speaker 1: I don't think it's fair that you use dogs on theirs, 1252 01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,960 Speaker 1: you know, so we're we're hopefully, you know, showing you know, 1253 01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,200 Speaker 1: those people that typically wouldn't watch a bear video, but 1254 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,160 Speaker 1: because now we're popping up on their phone to hey, 1255 01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:27,960 Speaker 1: you know, we like these guys. What they're doing is 1256 01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:32,479 Speaker 1: actually pretty cool. You know. It's we're open, yeah, through 1257 01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,200 Speaker 1: our YouTube channel that we're kind of merging two worlds. 1258 01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,479 Speaker 1: So what do you guys tell people about hound hunting, 1259 01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:42,920 Speaker 1: like the benefits of it? Because I know I've heard 1260 01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,160 Speaker 1: like Clay talk about it like the office. I'm just curious, 1261 01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,240 Speaker 1: like whenever people to say that to you, Like, what 1262 01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:51,520 Speaker 1: do you say about hound hunting like it's it's benefits 1263 01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:54,680 Speaker 1: and and like its purpose. Well, a lot of what 1264 01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,000 Speaker 1: I've learned from it is actually listening to Clay. I 1265 01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,439 Speaker 1: mean you can, uh, you can when you have a 1266 01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:01,920 Speaker 1: bear tree, it's catching at least hunting. I mean you 1267 01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:05,240 Speaker 1: can decide right there, um, you know, is that a boar? 1268 01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:07,920 Speaker 1: Is that a sow? How big is it? Um? Doesn't 1269 01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:09,920 Speaker 1: need to be taken out? Um, you can make all 1270 01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:13,360 Speaker 1: those decisions right there at the tree. Um, you know. 1271 01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:15,639 Speaker 1: And and it's it's and when we shoot a bear 1272 01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:19,320 Speaker 1: um out of a tree. Nine percent of time the 1273 01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:21,280 Speaker 1: bear is dead before it hits the ground. So like 1274 01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,160 Speaker 1: when we shoot, you know, someone might shoot one of 1275 01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,080 Speaker 1: the bow, which of course I have no issue with. 1276 01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,400 Speaker 1: They'll shoot one. You don't know exactly where you're going 1277 01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,120 Speaker 1: to hit it. You know, with a gun, you don't 1278 01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:32,720 Speaker 1: always find them. The bears that that we run, you know, 1279 01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:35,120 Speaker 1: most of the time we're catching and then we make 1280 01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,559 Speaker 1: a you know, we can make a clean, good decision, 1281 01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:42,120 Speaker 1: ethical decision should we kill that bear? And so in 1282 01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,880 Speaker 1: terms of in terms if if we're actually talking about 1283 01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:49,280 Speaker 1: the ethics of being humane to an animal, it would 1284 01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,120 Speaker 1: be hard to stand in a court of law with 1285 01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:55,600 Speaker 1: an unbiased judge and not say that that's actually the 1286 01:12:55,680 --> 01:13:00,400 Speaker 1: most ethical that when you're talking about the death of animal. 1287 01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:02,960 Speaker 1: Because the animals in a tree, you're able to make 1288 01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:04,840 Speaker 1: a good shot, You're able to make a decision about 1289 01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:08,400 Speaker 1: the sex, age, whatever categories that that you have, if 1290 01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,439 Speaker 1: you have any you know, you're able to make that decision. 1291 01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:15,000 Speaker 1: And and you know, an old hound hunter and Appalachian 1292 01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:18,920 Speaker 1: Mountains told me this in response to somebody saying that 1293 01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:23,040 Speaker 1: running bears with hounds was cruel, like actually cruel to 1294 01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:26,320 Speaker 1: the animal while it was being ran. And he said 1295 01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,559 Speaker 1: the old man. What the guy said to me, He said, Clay, 1296 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:33,320 Speaker 1: He said, there are critters being killed on that mountain 1297 01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:37,960 Speaker 1: right now as we speak, being chased down by coyotes, 1298 01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:42,320 Speaker 1: being caught by raptors being you know, hawks being. I 1299 01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:48,280 Speaker 1: mean like this idea that you know, how's chasing the 1300 01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:53,920 Speaker 1: bear is something unnatural, something new. I mean, Mother nature 1301 01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:57,320 Speaker 1: had a much more cruel death plan for that animal. 1302 01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:00,320 Speaker 1: That's what I always say. I mean, you know, you 1303 01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:03,639 Speaker 1: see kill a bear with a with a shotgun after 1304 01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,400 Speaker 1: it's been chased for hour and a half by hounds. 1305 01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:11,200 Speaker 1: Mother nature had a much more cruel death planned for 1306 01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:14,760 Speaker 1: that critter. Doubt whether whether he died of starvation at 1307 01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:17,360 Speaker 1: old age, whether they got killed by rival male, whether 1308 01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:20,200 Speaker 1: he starved out in the then one winter after a 1309 01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:23,519 Speaker 1: low mass crop and no beech nuts. I mean, it's 1310 01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:27,560 Speaker 1: like man, nature nature is cruel, and you know, like 1311 01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,200 Speaker 1: the antis, they don't want to hear that side of it, 1312 01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:32,320 Speaker 1: you know, they want to ignore that that part of it. 1313 01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,640 Speaker 1: They don't. They don't want us being the ones that 1314 01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,600 Speaker 1: that you know, take that big mature bore out of 1315 01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,519 Speaker 1: out of the hearth. They would rather it's out of sight, 1316 01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,479 Speaker 1: out of minds, they really don't have to worry about 1317 01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:46,080 Speaker 1: what actually goes on, and so they typically ignore everything 1318 01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:48,600 Speaker 1: you just said. You you ask Kirk a question. I 1319 01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:50,519 Speaker 1: just couldn't help myself. I had to just jump in 1320 01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,320 Speaker 1: there and answer it for him. Sorry, no, you did. 1321 01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,040 Speaker 1: Once again, I agree. I feel like one of the 1322 01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:00,280 Speaker 1: things that there's a disconnecting is just like inside of life. 1323 01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,240 Speaker 1: It's like a lot of people just don't understand struggle 1324 01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,800 Speaker 1: or like the way things actually work. You know, it's 1325 01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:07,960 Speaker 1: like just the way that kids are raised and stuff. 1326 01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,640 Speaker 1: It's like things are so easy and so disconnected that 1327 01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:14,080 Speaker 1: that you just lose that sense that there's things that 1328 01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,080 Speaker 1: you have to struggle for or there's things that are 1329 01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:18,640 Speaker 1: just hard. And you know, it's like thinking about you know, 1330 01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,360 Speaker 1: dogs chasing the bear and the way mother nature is. 1331 01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:22,559 Speaker 1: I think that there's a lot of people that are 1332 01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:25,240 Speaker 1: just like they're just disconnected by the way that it's 1333 01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:28,600 Speaker 1: perception nature. Yeah, false perception nature. And I think I 1334 01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:32,560 Speaker 1: think that we add a human element to that that 1335 01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:35,479 Speaker 1: is valuable for people that to help them understand. I mean, 1336 01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:38,599 Speaker 1: like you guys YouTube channel, people seeing you guys being 1337 01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:41,360 Speaker 1: real and liking you. I mean the first time I 1338 01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:44,400 Speaker 1: watched you, I just liked you. I mean, and and 1339 01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:48,439 Speaker 1: that's highly valuable. I mean, like an anti hunter that 1340 01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:53,240 Speaker 1: was just adamantly opposed to running bear I figure that 1341 01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:58,800 Speaker 1: of them. If they came to my house and had 1342 01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:03,120 Speaker 1: dinner with me and my family and set around, and 1343 01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:04,960 Speaker 1: I mean, and I knew they were anti hunter, and 1344 01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,240 Speaker 1: they knew I was a bear hunter, they would walk 1345 01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:11,600 Speaker 1: away with maybe not a totally changed mind, but they 1346 01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,280 Speaker 1: would have respect for me. I feel like they would, 1347 01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:18,360 Speaker 1: I mean, just just in I mean, in so anyway 1348 01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:22,120 Speaker 1: that the whole idea of a face with a person, 1349 01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:25,040 Speaker 1: and that's kind of what following a channel on YouTube does, 1350 01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,200 Speaker 1: is you kind of feel like you know somebody. So 1351 01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:30,400 Speaker 1: I think there's some benefit inside of that that people 1352 01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:34,320 Speaker 1: people probably there's just a there's a human, there's a 1353 01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:38,680 Speaker 1: human involved with it. It's not just a barbarian. It's well, 1354 01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:42,760 Speaker 1: some people might think Josh is barbarian. But I've given 1355 01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:44,439 Speaker 1: you a hard time, Josh. I hope you know, I 1356 01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:49,240 Speaker 1: hope you know I stay on him since he's used to. Yeah, 1357 01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:53,080 Speaker 1: I mean, but that's the greatest thing about the channel 1358 01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:57,679 Speaker 1: and YouTube, is it When you came up thus last 1359 01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,360 Speaker 1: year you were and we were sitting at our table 1360 01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:02,160 Speaker 1: when you just came up and say, Hey, Josh, what's 1361 01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:05,560 Speaker 1: going on? And I was like, hey, it's Clay. We 1362 01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:08,400 Speaker 1: never even met, but we've seen each other on YouTube. 1363 01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:14,040 Speaker 1: So that's the That's one thing I do like, and 1364 01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:18,920 Speaker 1: I think that that's one thing we try is connecting 1365 01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:24,280 Speaker 1: personally with our audience through the video. And well, uh 1366 01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:28,840 Speaker 1: late an hour at a Giovanni's Pizza and logan and uh, 1367 01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,519 Speaker 1: I had put a video up that the night before, 1368 01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,479 Speaker 1: UH where Josh and I weur bear hunting and I 1369 01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,760 Speaker 1: forgot my radio and I walked down to the dogs. 1370 01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:38,200 Speaker 1: So the bear came out of the tree and I 1371 01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,639 Speaker 1: was down there by myself. He couldn't track me, didn't 1372 01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:42,240 Speaker 1: know where I was. I couldn't talk to him, didn't 1373 01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,439 Speaker 1: know where he was. We just knew that the bear's 1374 01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:47,400 Speaker 1: gonna end up somewhere. But the point is I forgot 1375 01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:50,200 Speaker 1: my radio, so I'm walking and we made it me 1376 01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:53,360 Speaker 1: in the video like we talked about it because because 1377 01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:56,720 Speaker 1: it was a cluster, it was a cluster and that 1378 01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:58,960 Speaker 1: and and that's kind of that's that's kind of like 1379 01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:01,120 Speaker 1: who I am, though, Like I do stuff like that 1380 01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:06,040 Speaker 1: all the time. You know, I'm I'm kind of true. Josh, 1381 01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:15,120 Speaker 1: absolutely my messy, unorganized, no radio, no gun, GPS, no nine, 1382 01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:21,880 Speaker 1: no nine. He is scattered and gone. All he is 1383 01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:26,880 Speaker 1: is I'm getting to the dogs. But what I'm getting? Yeah, yeah, 1384 01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:29,080 Speaker 1: back to So, I had forgotten my radio. So I'm 1385 01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:31,639 Speaker 1: walking out of Giovanni's and a guy says, hey, Kirk. 1386 01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:33,640 Speaker 1: He was like, he was like like, I look at 1387 01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:35,080 Speaker 1: him like I didn't know who he was. He said, 1388 01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:42,200 Speaker 1: don't forget your radio. Forget That's cool And that's the 1389 01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:46,160 Speaker 1: number one roule. Do not leave the truck without a radio. 1390 01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:48,960 Speaker 1: And I've done better. We got those chest harnesses that 1391 01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:52,840 Speaker 1: we've gotten probably sixty messages on what kind of chest 1392 01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:54,760 Speaker 1: harnesses do you all have? Where do you get those? 1393 01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:59,160 Speaker 1: That's that's our most asked question. You would not believe. 1394 01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:05,120 Speaker 1: What's the answer, can Tara non affiliated? No, they probably 1395 01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,280 Speaker 1: who we are. But I guarantee if they go back 1396 01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:11,479 Speaker 1: and they look at seals from two thousand and eighteen 1397 01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:14,919 Speaker 1: to two thousand and twenty, they had that. I guarantee 1398 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:18,559 Speaker 1: that their chest pouches, the ones that we wear, they've 1399 01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,960 Speaker 1: went out of the They've had to produce God knows 1400 01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:26,000 Speaker 1: how many and can they're they're paramedic and smoke jumpers. 1401 01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:31,120 Speaker 1: That's what they were, the firefighters, like it's a safety pass. 1402 01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:36,519 Speaker 1: I would be like just google Chest Harness radio. But 1403 01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:39,519 Speaker 1: that's why biggest questions and I probably copy a past 1404 01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:41,559 Speaker 1: of the link to Amazon to that. I can't even 1405 01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:43,439 Speaker 1: tell you how many times we should be should be 1406 01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:45,960 Speaker 1: anything about it is. Kirk still to this day would 1407 01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:49,639 Speaker 1: not have one if he did not cabbage on to mine. 1408 01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:55,800 Speaker 1: Kirk is like a pirate. He he participates in a 1409 01:19:55,880 --> 01:20:01,400 Speaker 1: lot of piracy. Chest Harns s D cards. Don't leave 1410 01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:04,120 Speaker 1: any s D cards Kobe around this man because it's 1411 01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:07,439 Speaker 1: like it's like the guy off of X Men. He 1412 01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:11,840 Speaker 1: with the SD cards and metal he doesn't ye, he's 1413 01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:16,800 Speaker 1: like s D do with SD cards. Yeah, you know 1414 01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:23,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But now it it worked, what what 1415 01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:27,040 Speaker 1: what we do works for us? And and I don't. 1416 01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll take the opportunity to give Kirk a 1417 01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:34,120 Speaker 1: lot of ADDI boys, because I mean I'm not any 1418 01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:38,040 Speaker 1: technical guy. Most people probably know that on our channel 1419 01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:42,759 Speaker 1: that listened to us and watch us. Now I'm learning, Yeah, slowly, 1420 01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:46,080 Speaker 1: he's learned how to turn the camera on ye. Yeah, 1421 01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:52,240 Speaker 1: but he Kirk has done a superb job at the editing, 1422 01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:55,760 Speaker 1: producing and and everything on that on that and um 1423 01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,720 Speaker 1: but and it's and it's working for us and that's 1424 01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,960 Speaker 1: what matters. And we're having fun. I mean, yeah, did 1425 01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:07,680 Speaker 1: we get pissed at each other? Absolutely? We do. I mean, 1426 01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:09,680 Speaker 1: when you spend that much time with somebody, if you 1427 01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,479 Speaker 1: don't have disagreements, then you're probably not real with each other. Yeah, 1428 01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:16,599 Speaker 1: I mean, um, do we get aggravated with with Lane? 1429 01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:19,320 Speaker 1: And you know Lane probably with Lane a lot. Well, 1430 01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:22,160 Speaker 1: I mean he gets brought well, he gets brought in 1431 01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,120 Speaker 1: and that's why I'm gonna say, but you know, he 1432 01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:29,760 Speaker 1: gets brought into a group he's never been around. Uh, 1433 01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:34,240 Speaker 1: he doesn't know our hunting habits. You know, it gets intense. Um, 1434 01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:37,559 Speaker 1: I can imagine. But you know, we have a good time. 1435 01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:43,439 Speaker 1: And that's what you know, that's a that's the main 1436 01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:46,080 Speaker 1: that's a we wake up, you know, like for instance, 1437 01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:48,200 Speaker 1: I'm full time doing this. I wake up every day. 1438 01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:51,519 Speaker 1: I Mean my stresses in life are, Man, I gotta 1439 01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:53,519 Speaker 1: get that video edit of a hunt, you know, a hunt, 1440 01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:55,720 Speaker 1: you know, and then I can get it done and 1441 01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,560 Speaker 1: I can go out and hunt and video and I 1442 01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:00,240 Speaker 1: wake up every day with a smile on my face, 1443 01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:03,360 Speaker 1: you know, because if I absolutely love what I'm doing. Yeah, 1444 01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:08,320 Speaker 1: that's awesome. Man. Well, hey guys, any closing closing thoughts, 1445 01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:11,800 Speaker 1: anything you wanted to say that you didn't get to say. Oh, 1446 01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:14,639 Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff I wasn't able to say. 1447 01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:18,680 Speaker 1: I'm just I need to I need to close the 1448 01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:23,160 Speaker 1: podcast and my Josh voice, Yeah you should, I can't do. 1449 01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:27,479 Speaker 1: I wish you'd been there, Josh. It was awesome. I'd 1450 01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:29,639 Speaker 1: love to hear it. Yeah. Well, I just I want 1451 01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:31,400 Speaker 1: to thank you all for you know, having us and 1452 01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:36,120 Speaker 1: hopefully you're your audience like listening to us. And I'm 1453 01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:37,479 Speaker 1: sure we have a lot of it'll be a lot 1454 01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:41,080 Speaker 1: of crossover. Yeah, it'll be cool that we they got 1455 01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:43,400 Speaker 1: to hear us all together, you know place and I 1456 01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:46,640 Speaker 1: appreciate that, just the support, you know, since we've had 1457 01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:49,519 Speaker 1: our Champel, Clay and I've talked a lot on the phone, 1458 01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:54,000 Speaker 1: and um, I know that we don't um have to 1459 01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:56,759 Speaker 1: endure with a lot of other people in Hannah States endure. 1460 01:22:57,479 --> 01:23:01,719 Speaker 1: We understand that, but and we never want to hurt 1461 01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:04,800 Speaker 1: anybody in the other states. And what we do what 1462 01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:08,040 Speaker 1: we do. Want to show people what we do. Yeah, 1463 01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:11,760 Speaker 1: and we've had those discussions, but just thank you all 1464 01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:14,560 Speaker 1: for supporting us and our channel and what we do. 1465 01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:18,240 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, Well we're fans. So check out the 1466 01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:21,400 Speaker 1: untamed YouTube channel and I guess this is going on 1467 01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:23,439 Speaker 1: your podcast too, so people can check out the bear 1468 01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:27,599 Speaker 1: hunting magazine of our people may not even we don't 1469 01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:30,840 Speaker 1: talk about the YouTube channel with time, but hey, thanks guys, 1470 01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:34,240 Speaker 1: thank you. The wild places wild because that's where the 1471 01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:38,400 Speaker 1: bears live. You should do it. And Josh's boys place wild, 1472 01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:41,720 Speaker 1: that's where and I think Josh needs to say it now. 1473 01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:44,640 Speaker 1: We need to say it full through. So it's keep 1474 01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:46,479 Speaker 1: the wild places wild because that's where the bears. That 1475 01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:51,559 Speaker 1: say it like full throttled Josh, it's keep the wild 1476 01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:54,439 Speaker 1: places wild because that's where the bears. I'm gonna take 1477 01:23:54,479 --> 01:24:00,439 Speaker 1: my headphones off. We might even use this give me 1478 01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:01,920 Speaker 1: give me a fist pump No no, no, I mean 1479 01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:05,519 Speaker 1: I'm like a yeah baby, yeah, yeah yeah, keep it, 1480 01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:08,479 Speaker 1: keep the wild. Yeah. I don't even know what I 1481 01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:11,920 Speaker 1: starts to say, the wild places wild because that's where 1482 01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:16,080 Speaker 1: the bears live. Can you write that now? Yeah, text 1483 01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:19,000 Speaker 1: to keep keep the wild places wild because that's where 1484 01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:26,200 Speaker 1: the Bears live. Yeah yeah, baby, I can't do it. 1485 01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:29,600 Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. Guys that