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Speaker 2: Episode four twenty five with Randy Hauser. I've known Randy

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Speaker 2: for ten years, but I haven't, like, no, known Randy

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Speaker 2: He's played charity shows for me very kindly. He's been

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Speaker 2: I haven't known known him like. We've never spent any

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Speaker 2: and but it's like he left and I was like, dang,

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Speaker 2: But I felt like I would like to be that

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Friend just now Randy Hauser at Randy Hauser he's got

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Speaker 2: here's the thing. He's got a new song called Cancel

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Speaker 2: that's out right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm a godfian man.

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Speaker 2: He's got a role in The Killers of the Flower Moon,

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Speaker 2: which you saw has scene there, which is pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: He's also in a movie with Dennis Quaid. He just

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Speaker 2: wrapped up touring with Cody Johnson. He's got a tour

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Speaker 2: coming out in twenty twenty four. But let's go through

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Speaker 2: some songs real quick. Running out of Moonlight, Me and

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Speaker 2: old fat number one. I mean, this song reminds me

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Speaker 2: and we went chails chosing. So that was four number

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Speaker 2: one from Randy Hauser. He's got an album, Note to

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Speaker 2: Self that's available now, and he wrote on every one

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Speaker 2: I mean, something we didn't talk about was and I

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Speaker 2: Honky Tonk, butdonkadonk oh yeah, and I don't I don't

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Speaker 2: know that he doesn't like talking about it, but it

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Speaker 2: But he co wrote that with Jamie Johnson and Dallas Davids,

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Speaker 2: and that was his first hit of the songwriter, at

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Speaker 2: least one of them. Randy Hauser, Here we go, you

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Speaker 2: guys again, follow him, go watch him. He's such a

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Speaker 2: powerful vocalist. Afterward, he texted me, and this has always happened.

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Speaker 2: here we go Randy Hawser, Randy Hawser, good to see you.

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Speaker 2: I did not know you were a golfer. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 2: Dude. That's it. I tell my wife too, is you

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we spent so much time trying to be

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Speaker 2: What sports? And how were you using a high school athlete?

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Speaker 1: We got our license at fifteen back then got it?

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Speaker 2: And I think Arkansas Misissippi were a little bit alike

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Speaker 2: much everybody that raised me died except my stepdad, who

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Speaker 2: But I'm closer to him than anybody what else, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you know, but it was I was. I was

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00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 1: also very very fortunate that when I got here, I

434
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 1: had met, well, I had sort of known Derek George.

435
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know Derek George. Derek produced

436
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,160
Speaker 1: like the records like that How Country Feels and Running

437
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,479
Speaker 1: out of the Moonlight, those records. But he grew up

438
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, Misissippi, which is like twenty miles from me,

439
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 1: twenty five miles. And when I got here, I went

440
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 1: to meet with Derek, and he took me into this

441
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 1: publisher on music Row called wind Swept, and it was

442
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:35,439
Speaker 1: these guys. So I got very look And also I

443
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 1: had met a girl that was here that had known

444
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,160
Speaker 1: me for Mississippi, that from playing clubs, and she said, Hey,

445
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 1: would you ever be interested in like singing demos or

446
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 1: anything like that? And I was like, sure, I'll do anything.

447
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 1: I was about to just just going to get go,

448
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 1: get it whatever job. And so she had these guys,

449
00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 1: Randy Boudreau, who was he's moved back to Louis but

450
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,959
Speaker 1: he had written like Broken Heartsville and some you know,

451
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 1: like a lot of big songs and they asked me

452
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 1: to gave me a shot at singing a demo for him.

453
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 1: And this was like week one, and I sang one

454
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: song for him, and they gave me like fifty bucks,

455
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 1: and I was like, holy crap, you just got paid

456
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 1: for singing in a studious Yeah, and like I'd never

457
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 1: really been in a real studio. And so the next

458
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,479
Speaker 1: week they gave me like ten of them. He's like,

459
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 1: so I just immediately kind of went work, and then

460
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 1: the publisher like a month later signed in my first

461
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,199
Speaker 1: publishing deal. So I was really lucky. I mean, I

462
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 1: had just spent a lot of time.

463
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 2: You spent a lot of time touring and doing tenpound biscuits,

464
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 2: So it's not like you were seventeen and move to town.

465
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Speaker 1: In twenty six when I moved here.

466
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 2: Really that's like a grandpa, I know. I mean considering

467
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 2: when people move here.

468
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 1: And I'm forty eight now, so I yeah, it's crazy

469
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: how it's flown by.

470
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 2: What was tempound Biscuit about?

471
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 1: It was more like, I mean, we played a lot

472
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: of country, but it was also like we would take

473
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: like old Robert Johnson songs and speed them up and

474
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: play them like we call it Mississippi rock and.

475
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 2: Roll too, so all blue songs that kind of contemporary

476
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 2: make them a bit contemporary, soounting.

477
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, when there was a lot of that stuff going

478
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: on at that time, you know, like Normsissippi All Stars

479
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: and that kind of stuff.

480
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 2: Do you think about those days when it was a

481
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 2: struggle as also being freaking awesome? Now it's so awesome.

482
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: It is awesome. I mean every time I think, damn,

483
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: things are not going my way, I just it doesn't

484
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 1: take me but just a minute to think back and go,

485
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: this is pretty badass.

486
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 2: Yep, it is, And I still have a real appreciation

487
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 2: for Like when I was twenty one, twenty broke, but

488
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 2: I bought a PlayStation two and I you know, I know,

489
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 2: but I never had money, So it wasn't that I

490
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 2: was in this whole world of not having money. I

491
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 2: lived there, so wasn't that big of a deal. Yeah,

492
00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 2: I'm not scared to right, So the struggle was just

493
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 2: surviving and having to pay all moment bills and stuff.

494
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 2: But I would go home, but every dream was still

495
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 2: in front of me. Yeah, that was awesome.

496
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's still do you still have that sense about

497
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: you that there's still things like Oh yeah, it's a constant.

498
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, but does that get in your way to is

499
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 2: that ever unhealthy for you?

500
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 1: Never? Really for me?

501
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: It is?

502
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: Is it? Yeah? Just for me? You don't make me

503
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,360
Speaker 1: analyze must Well I.

504
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 2: Try to put you in a bad place, but yeah,

505
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 2: I mean I do. I'm still like, there's still so

506
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 2: why am I not here? What there is? Yes, I

507
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 2: start to get in trouble a little bit. Well you're

508
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 2: kind of at the top of what you do. But

509
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 2: and I would say the same thing about you. I

510
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 2: would not Okay, right, I'm not even going to the wards,

511
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 2: but that's what I would say about me, Like I

512
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 2: am not. And so it's just funny how the perception

513
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 2: when we're ten thousand feet up looking at the forest

514
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 2: is different than if we're sitting in the woods. Like

515
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 2: I at times felt like a massive failure. Like most

516
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 2: of the time, most of the time, well, I have.

517
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Speaker 1: To say that there are those those times that you know,

518
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: it's just like all I can do is like create

519
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: something that means something to me at the time and

520
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: hope that it means something to someone else. You know,

521
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 1: I can't I can't go into creating just to think

522
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go make some money, you know that order

523
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 1: to be famous. You know, I just you know, I

524
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 1: I think I went through a little phase of that

525
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: and it didn't make me happy. I was just like

526
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: near so you know, I'm I'm definitely you know, I

527
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: wouldn't say that I'm happy with I'm very happy with

528
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 1: what I achieved so far, but I always got to

529
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: keep keep going, you know, challenge just like golf, competing

530
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 1: with myself.

531
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Speaker 3: Hang tight, the Bobby Cast will be right back, and

532
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 3: we're back on the Bobby Cast.

533
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 2: What do you enjoy doing? Just that's very open, vague question.

534
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 2: Take golf out and take playing music out. What do

535
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 2: you enjoy doing? What do you enjoy going? I asked

536
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 2: this was in my therapist office yesterday, that their mental

537
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 2: health big deal for me because I never even knew

538
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 2: it was a real thing until I realized mine wasn't good.

539
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: Kind of one of those things.

540
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 2: And then he's like, where do you go? Like when

541
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 2: you want to relax? What do you And I'm like,

542
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 2: I have no idea, Yeah, what is it for you?

543
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: So? Okay, About fifteen years ago, I went on a

544
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: trip with my buddy songwriter buddy Rob Hatch to Bahamas,

545
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: where we're going, and and for me, it was the

546
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: craziest thing because I'd never seen anything like this, didn't

547
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: know anything like this existed. But I went with he

548
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: and his family to the Bahamash and I saw the

549
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: water there, and it was the most beautiful thing I'd

550
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: ever seen, you know that, just the color and being

551
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: being able to get on a boat and go sort

552
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: of like lake life but looking at an island over

553
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 1: here and getting on a boat and just go do it.

554
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: So I do that a lot, and I it's so

555
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: funny because I had no idea about boats, or I

556
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: grew up in the middle of the state. There's no

557
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: there's no water, and.

558
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 2: Or if there are, their flat bottoms, right yeah.

559
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. So literally like three months later, I went back

560
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: down there by myself and rented my own boat, really yeah,

561
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: and rented a house and I started now, and I like,

562
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: I screwed up so many of those people's boats, just

563
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: hitting rocks and stuff like that, you know. But I

564
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 1: eventually learned the water down there, and so that's like

565
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: literally when I get off the plane there and get

566
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: on a boat, I throw my bags on the boat,

567
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: I go and it's just kind of like everything kind

568
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: of just it's like a it's a weird baptism in

569
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: a way. It's like a washes me clean. I don't

570
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: have to think about anything else. My phones go off,

571
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: don't have any service until I get to the house

572
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 1: of Wi Fi and then But it's just like for

573
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: me that that was my thing that I found. That

574
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: was like my escape, you know.

575
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 2: And what age was music? You're escape? Oh god, well,

576
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 2: like what as a kid? And he can even be listening,

577
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 2: like finding music to listen to before you played it,

578
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: Like when did you when did you kind of love music?

579
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: Well, because my dad was a musician, he would, you know,

580
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: he would every night, never failed even you know, you know,

581
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: he would sit on the side of my bed and

582
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: play songs and I'd sing with him as a little boy,

583
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: you know, So that that was you know, I can't

584
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: remember not having that until he was gone. What kind

585
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: of songs he would play, like anything, Like he'd play

586
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: like Jimmy Buffett songs or Dan Fogelberg and he was

587
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: he was really into singer songwriter music, and you know,

588
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: but he would, you know, he'd play country stuff too,

589
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: but it was more singer songwriter stuff than than probably

590
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: like George Jones.

591
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: You know what was his dream as a musician or

592
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: an artist or did he have one?

593
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: I think so yeah, but he he kind of I mean,

594
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: you know, he grew up. He was kind of like

595
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: extremely chied, like I could play anything, you know. He'd

596
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: play piano and oregon on all these like old blue

597
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: stuff and like, and he would played in bands and

598
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So I remember, I even remember like

599
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: the first time I went and saw him play with

600
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: a band, and I was probably four.

601
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: You remember this, you remember something of four, four.

602
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: Or five, It couldn't been much older, but it had

603
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: impact on me. And I remember hit him. I remember

604
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: thinking about him sitting on the side of my bed

605
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: and playing with just him and singing songs and me

606
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: singing with him. And then I saw him play at

607
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: this playing playing with this band at this bar called

608
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: and I remember the band the bar was called Willa Watson's.

609
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: I remember that too, and and I and I recognized

610
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: that there were like five people on stage, all doing

611
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: something different, but it was coming out of these speakers

612
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: is one thing. And it just impacted me. I was like, oh,

613
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: I know what I'm going to do. I just knew.

614
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: And so as soon as I could. As soon as

615
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: I could learn how to play guitar, like I mean,

616
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: as soon as I could. He was teaching me.

617
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 2: You know what age is that six seven were playing

618
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: like a small acoustic guitar. He'd have me just a

619
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 2: little something, you know, man, that's those those got to

620
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 2: be the best memories.

621
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: They were when you know. And the great thing about

622
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: him was and I do. And this is one thing

623
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: I took from him with my kids is like, my

624
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: kids don't go thirty minutes without me telling them how

625
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: much I love them. And he was like that to me.

626
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: So I never felt this that kind of deficiency. I

627
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: knew that my daddy loved me. But and I And

628
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: that's one thing I give to my kids. I'm like

629
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: a me and Teddy I don't were talking about that

630
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: last night. It was like one of our goals is

631
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: for our kids to never not hear that. You know,

632
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: how old is your oldest kid? Eleven?

633
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 2: So you had your first kid at thirty thirty eight,

634
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: so thirty six, we're just now starting to talk about

635
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: having kids. Yeah, I've been scared forever. Didn't have models

636
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: as parents, think I'd be a terrible parent. I was

637
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: afraid to not be able to afford to be so

638
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: all these irrational fears that are there for a reason.

639
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 2: Obviously I experienced them, but they feel they're rational.

640
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know what, I had the same thing. Ye,

641
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: but I think that in eight Park kicks in.

642
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: I hear you, but manate, I don't trust in ad

643
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 2: in me.

644
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,239
Speaker 1: You'd kill it if you because you actually care that

645
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: you the fact that you actually are scared, you would

646
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: do a crappy job at it, You'll kill it.

647
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 2: I'm also scared I do a crappy job like telling jokes,

648
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 2: as I suck at that too. So what what's what's

649
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: the What's what's having kids about?

650
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's for me. It is

651
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: it was if I every ounce of ego that you

652
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: might have, they'll kick that ship right down the stairs.

653
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: Because because you were old, thirty thirty whatever you said,

654
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: thirty five seven, that's older to have your dad, I'm

655
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 2: gonna be I'm gonna be freaking grandpa.

656
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: Well I got a one year old too, and I'm

657
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: forty eight. So dude, but I'm like, I think I'm

658
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: about to go.

659
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. For those that don't know, he meant chopping the

660
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: tube that would send the sperm and out through his penis.

661
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 2: So when do you start not the penis actually, no,

662
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: that tube that would send the sperm ount through the penis,

663
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 2: not the penis off. Hilarious, you go in for the

664
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 2: wrong surgery. When did you start to play music with

665
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 2: other people either your age or like older men that

666
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: knew how to play instruments.

667
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, so probably fourth grade I started playing with There

668
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: was a there was one guy his name was Jason

669
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: Shirley that that lived in a town probably seven miles

670
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: from me, that played guitar and his dad was a musicians.

671
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: So we started doing that playing and then it became

672
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: you know, everybody else quit, you know, doing that. So

673
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: and then like I played and started literally probably tenth grade,

674
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: really playing out, you know. Uh. And then right at

675
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: the end of high school, I ended up playing in

676
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: bands with everybody was twenty five years older than me.

677
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: And so that was cool. It was it was like

678
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: a college for me. You know. It was uh crazy,

679
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: you know, it was. It was really great experience I had,

680
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: and and and the people that I played with were

681
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: so much better than they were ever giving credit for.

682
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: You know, one of one of the guys that I

683
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: played with, was in one of the bands was he

684
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: was one of the original Burrito Brothers. His name was

685
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: Chris Etheridge, and he he played on the road with

686
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: Willie for several years too, and come back home to

687
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: Mississippi and and and he and he sort of kind

688
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: of like schooled me on charts and all the stuff,

689
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, always pushed me to get

690
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: out of there and moved to Nashville.

691
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: Like he cared.

692
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a good guy.

693
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 2: Sounds like he cared you when you moved to Nashville.

694
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 2: Just hearing your story about you guys playing and you

695
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: touring all over the Southeast. Now, did you develop a

696
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: following enough as a band or as a to make

697
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: you think I have to go and take the next

698
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: step or why like why stop that and come here?

699
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: Well, I think that at the end of the day,

700
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: I was the only one that took it as serious

701
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: as as it needed to be taken. You know, everybody

702
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: else had something to fall back on or you know,

703
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: just I don't know. I just think I was more

704
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 1: serious about it.

705
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 2: And you you knew, not that you be success, you

706
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 2: knew that that's what you had to do. Yeah, That's

707
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 2: how I feel about this. You know, all the stuff

708
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: that I do, and I tell people, Man, if you

709
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 2: think there's a chance you could do something else, go

710
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 2: do it. Because yeah, I agree, this sucks and it's awesome,

711
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 2: but it sucks mostly. Yeah, but it's awesome. There's there's

712
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 2: a there's a lot.

713
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: There's something awesome and something that sucks. But there's always

714
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: a yang to the end. I mean, it's just just

715
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: the way it is. But you know, you're still the

716
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: weight of the weight of the good definitely has outweighed

717
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: you know, anything was bad from what.

718
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: When you're hearing you're singing, you're doing demos, Are you

719
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: hoping that somebody hears you singing demos? Yeah, like it's

720
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 2: secretly like somebody that's that's you know, trying to listen

721
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 2: to songs.

722
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course absolutely.

723
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: I mean, how were you going to be discovered? In

724
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 2: your mind?

725
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: I had no idea. You know. One of the things

726
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: one of the things that I did when I moved

727
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: to Nashville is I didn't play live with a band

728
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: here for like four or five years. I just refused

729
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: because I was so scared that I would end up

730
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: And I don't mean this in a bad way. But

731
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: I always was scared that I would end up in

732
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: another cover band here, and that would be I'd be downtown,

733
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: you know, every night, you know, doing that, and that's

734
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: not what I came. I'd done that for ten years

735
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 1: before I moved here, So my focus was to get

736
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: here and learn and learn how to really write songs

737
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 1: and learn you know, I had, you know, I always

738
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 1: written songs, but there's a different level of songwriters obviously

739
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 1: in this town that know how to craft a song,

740
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: you know, And sometimes I feel like some of the

741
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: innocence of my songwriting got booted because of learning the

742
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: process of how everybody writes here. So I think that

743
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: I lost some of the raggedness, you know, which I

744
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: sort of regret sometimes. But I wouldn't play live because

745
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: I didn't want to didn't want to be in a

746
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: cover band. And then when I felt like I had

747
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: written enough songs to really go start playing, I.

748
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: Did, Where do you play when you're ready to start playing?

749
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: Back? Then it would be like third and Lensley.

750
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 2: Twelfth and Porter and how do you get a shot

751
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: to see Elis Corner? Do you have to do? You

752
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: know something you've been in town? For a few years. Now,

753
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 2: do you know somebody do you go and just call

754
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 2: and say can I get Like? How do you do that?

755
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 2: At that point, well.

756
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: I had been playing like writers' nights, just acoustic, and

757
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: so some of the club owners will be like, are

758
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: you ever going to put a band together and go

759
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: and go? We'd love to have you play. And finally

760
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: I did.

761
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 2: When you would play these writers' nights, these rounds, would

762
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: people react to you singing in a way that would

763
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: make you think, I crave this and obviously I'm good

764
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 2: at it. When did that start happening for you? Did

765
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 2: you have such a distinct strong voice? And I don't

766
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: think that just happened like three years ago.

767
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: No, that was you know, I, like I said, I'd

768
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: been doing that for so long, it was I mean

769
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: that part was like, that's just innate to me. You know.

770
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: I don't mean that in like a boasting way. It's

771
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: just like you get on the radio and you talk

772
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: and somehow you keep the thing, keep the ball rolling,

773
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:26,959
Speaker 1: and you just know how.

774
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 2: To do it.

775
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 1: It's instinct right right, And that's how I guess. It's

776
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: a combination of the things I listened to growing up

777
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: a combination of being in the bed singing with my

778
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: dad at four years old and learn how to learn

779
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: how to use the muscles to make my voice do

780
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: the things that I hear in my head.

781
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: Like a like a picture, throwing a cab a muscle

782
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 2: memory and learning what works And when did you When

783
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 2: did you realize you were a good singer?

784
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if you I still sometimes I don't know, uh,

785
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: I you know, I hear people that that that I

786
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: still hear people that I go, man, I wish I

787
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: had that kind of voice.

788
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair.

789
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: But like.

790
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 2: If you're singing and you're being rewarded by applause or

791
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 2: people going, oh you're great, it maybe that's when did

792
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 2: that fourteen fifteen or was it later?

793
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: It was probably them, Yeah, yeah, it may have been.

794
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I sing in church as a kid,

795
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: and I would, you know, uh, always end up with

796
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: one of the like if I was in a Bible

797
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: school player or something, I'd always have the part that

798
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: would sing and stuff like that. So I was always

799
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: always like I was aware that I could do it,

800
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: but I think it, you know, it's still I mean,

801
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: I go back and listen to old work tapes and

802
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: things like that, and I hear how how the times,

803
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 1: you know, how my voice has changed, and how my

804
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: style has changed, and and I don't know if I

805
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm where I'm supposed to be as

806
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: a singer even now, you know, because every every one

807
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: of those stages I thought I was. But you know,

808
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: I also realized listening back that that stylistically and the

809
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 1: tone of my voice has changed. And this I guess

810
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: that just happens as you get older. And but I

811
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: don't know. I you know, I always kind of knew

812
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: I could sing, you know, but could but you can

813
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: sing so good.

814
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: And I'm you know, I'm not just take your weasels

815
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: right now, but it's like I'm about to get a clip. Yeah,

816
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 2: I hear you.

817
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 4: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the

818
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 4: Bobby Cast.

819
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 2: So you moved to Nashville, and I think I would

820
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 2: just be a bit intimidated, regardless of how good I was,

821
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 2: because again, you could be the best, but there were

822
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 2: other people to sing different and seemed great.

823
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, this town is full of it, you know.

824
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 2: And but here you are singing demos and people are

825
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 2: paying you. That's got to give you confidence if you're like.

826
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: Oh, it was amazing. It was like I was. I

827
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: was so thankful, you know. It was like and some

828
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: of those some of those people that gave me that

829
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: work early on are still like great friends of mine,

830
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: you know, and I have really just believed in me

831
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: it since day one, and you know, been really just

832
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: encouraging from day one. And so there's a lot of

833
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: credit goes do to like Kent Blaze, a guy like that,

834
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 1: and and some of these guys that gave me work

835
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: all the time consistently believed in me is enough of

836
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: a singer to try to go picture their songs that

837
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: they work their ass off to right to these to

838
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: these guys and but have always believed in me to

839
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: put my stamp on their song to try to make

840
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: it something that somebody wouldn't want to hear, you know.

841
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: So that there's a lot of credit that goes to

842
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: those people for giving me a an outlet to grow.

843
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 2: When did you get that first opportunity, that first look

844
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 2: where it's like, I know you wanted to sink obviously

845
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 2: you're you're waiting. You didn't want to be in a

846
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 2: cover band, you wanted to be your own artist. Yeah,

847
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 2: when did that first serious look come from somebody? It

848
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 2: may not even worked out, but they're like, all right, Randy,

849
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 2: we think it's pretty good. Let's give you a look.

850
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: Do you have like a.

851
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: Like a showcase?

852
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be the word the show. You have

853
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 2: any showcase or anything like that?

854
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: Yeah? I had. I mean I had a kind of

855
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: like a bunch of those kind of things happen, you know.

856
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: I mean as whenever I started playing live around town,

857
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: there was kind of always somebody coming out. You know,

858
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: it was like, well there's a lot. It was like

859
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: I remember like at twelfth Importer one year, it was

860
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: like the highest like I had the like the highest

861
00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: grossing alcohol sales for their year, you know on nights,

862
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: because I would do it like once or twice a

863
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: month and they would average out who was selling there.

864
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: But I had a lot of people who would come.

865
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: Do you feel the building.

866
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 1: That was great? I mean it would just be slammed

867
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: and it was and and it was you know when

868
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: you're in those those like those you come to Nashville

869
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: and you like from being from Mississippi and not really

870
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: having a lot of people that do what I do

871
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: to come up with when I came here to find

872
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: my group of guys was my family, you know, and

873
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: and so it was always, you know, it was a

874
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: place to be when we to go out and play,

875
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 1: and it was just everybody that we knew came out.

876
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: You know. It was like one of those It was

877
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: a scene back in the day, and it was when

878
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: you get your record deal. Deal, you're My first record

879
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 1: deal was I guess probably two thousand and five.

880
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 2: Then I'm assuming your first record deal. I did not

881
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: end in a way that you would want it to end.

882
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 2: It's like it's like going when somebody goes my first wife,

883
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 2: my first you know. So the first record deal then,

884
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: I guess, was not good for you.

885
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: Well, long term, it was an interesting story. It was

886
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: Allison Jones that's now at Big Machine signed me. James

887
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: Stroud and her signed me to m c A. And

888
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: so James took me and my band to Bahamas and

889
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: we cut a record cut the first record.

890
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: They take you there because they knew you wanted and

891
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: you look.

892
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: They just said, here's there's a lot of backstory to well.

893
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: The story is basically that I didn't know it at

894
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: the time, and I'm not sure. I don't know if

895
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: James knew it at the time, but but he got

896
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: blown out right after we cut that record. I don't

897
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: know if he was just like, let's go, and I

898
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: don't know if that was the way funny. So yeah,

899
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: we went to Compass Point where let like you know,

900
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: back in Black record, a lot of that stuff was

901
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: cut and we went down there. I took my band,

902
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: we had a blast, started recording and stuff came back,

903
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: got ruffs almost done. He gets blown out and then

904
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: uh so Luke Lewis took over mc A. Him and

905
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: James were the heads of it and basically I was out.

906
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 2: When the people that don't bring you in. I mean

907
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 2: I had a I talked show pilot once and it

908
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: was awesome. I loved it, and we did that. We

909
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 2: shot the pilot, felt so good about it, and then

910
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: like two weeks after we shot it, the President that

911
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: okay greenlit it. It's blown out because it doesn't matter

912
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: how good it is. It's like new athletic director coming

913
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 2: in and I had football coach. It's like the first

914
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 2: chance that it's not great, They're going to get their

915
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: own person.

916
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: Absolutely you're not their kids.

917
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 2: So you felt that there. So how do you kind

918
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 2: of bounce back, what do you do for a while.

919
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: So, uh, the the saving grace out of that was

920
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: is that Universal South came came along right at that time.

921
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: They were a part of that whole group, the mc

922
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 1: A group, you know. So Mark Wright took over Universal South,

923
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: and uh and in my deal, there was almost out there.

924
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: I was history and Mark said, wait a minute, y'all

925
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: aren't gonna keep him. And so Mark sign me over

926
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: Universal South. And that's that's when I had like the

927
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: first like success I had, you know, like anything goes

928
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 1: and boots on, so.

929
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 2: You got to put out music over there, different music.

930
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 2: But yeah, when you have success like boots On for example,

931
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 2: and that was that wasn't even what it later became.

932
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: I mean, it was it, this is awesome, top of

933
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: the world, I'm a huge star. No, it wasn't that

934
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 2: at all.

935
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: Oh hell no, I was still getting I felt like

936
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: I was getting my teeth kicked in all the time.

937
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: You know.

938
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:10,959
Speaker 2: It was like being on the road away.

939
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: No, I just it was just uh, well yeah, part partly,

940
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't think. I don't think there's

941
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: ever been an I've arrived moment for me because just

942
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,240
Speaker 1: goes back to what we were talking about earlier is Okay,

943
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: we're here, how do we get there? How do we

944
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: You know that we're never going to be satisfied.

945
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 2: Even with How Country Feels, which was a monster. Yeah,

946
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 2: they didn't give you that a little bit.

947
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: Well, I remember feeling because well, I remember how I

948
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: when I knew that How Country Feels was a hit?

949
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: I remember that.

950
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 2: Just ahead, let's not let's not make it lower a monster?

951
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It was crazy, yeah, but it but

952
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: I never but all I'm all I'm thinking at that

953
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: point is oh shit, how do I do this again?

954
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: Because and I've seen it. I've seen so many ways

955
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: and in the in this business that I'm not scared

956
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: of it. But I remember that first time feeling of

957
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: realizing it was a hit, and I was. I remember

958
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: distinctly how it happened. I was we were in Saint

959
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 1: Louis and it was it was a station that Steve

960
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: Stewart was the pdat and he put on this thing.

961
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: It was in the fall. It was about that it

962
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: was just at Halloween and he decided he was going

963
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 1: to do this thing called Concerts in the Corn and uh,

964
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: and so it was cold, as shit and we go.

965
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: We're out in this cornfield on a flatbed and I

966
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: got gloves on, and we get there, like, you know,

967
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: five hours earlier, and I'm thinking, this place is twenty

968
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: five miles out of town and nobody knows me. And

969
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, there's nobody coming to this and and literally

970
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 1: that song had just like hit like top fifteen, top

971
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: here or something like that, and and these cars started

972
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: coming in, and they came in. We had to push

973
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 1: a show like an hour because they were not ready

974
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: for what was what was coming, and I wasn't. It

975
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: was freaky, but it was like that. But that was

976
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: the first time and it wasn't like, you know, I

977
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: was opening for somebody. It was my show. So I

978
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, these people actually came to

979
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: see me.

980
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 2: Isn't it weird how that can happen. You can be

981
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 2: in it so much you're not even like, I'm educating

982
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 2: yourself on what your art is doing. Yeah, because at

983
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 2: that you know, you're promoting a song. You're out working,

984
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 2: and you're right, you're going station to station, You're doing

985
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,240
Speaker 2: every freaking show, and you're not really feeling it because

986
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 2: you're working so hard. And then all of a sudden

987
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 2: when there is It took probably them delaying that show

988
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 2: and you freezing your balls off to go by dang,

989
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 2: this thing is yeah, it is creating some response.

990
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 1: That was the first time time I knew that that

991
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: song was as big as it was. It was. It

992
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 1: was that was nuts, but it was a I remember

993
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: I remember a very short pat on my own back,

994
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 1: you know, and then going okay, uh, guess what I

995
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: got to be at another radio station at eight am,

996
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: and and uh and a you know, at a lunch table.

997
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: There's nothing glamorous.

998
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 2: You know, it's like just realking conference room with like

999
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 2: some dude and his it doesn't even want to watch,

1000
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 2: doesn't want to be there. Yeah, that's tough, but that's

1001
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 2: you know what.

1002
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: I also appreciate that stuff so much because it I

1003
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: never felt like I didn't work for anything.

1004
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 2: You know, your song canceled, You wrote that, right, Tell

1005
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,919
Speaker 2: me about that song, not so much about the song,

1006
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 2: but why, Like what what were what were you thinking

1007
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 2: whenever you're writing that song? Like what did it start as?

1008
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 2: What did to end up?

1009
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: As? I guess for me, it was just, you know,

1010
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: I think I've just been watching too much news at

1011
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: the time, and uh and starting to also was starting

1012
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: to feel like misrepresented in a way. I feel like

1013
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: that I feel like I was being made to feel

1014
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: like because I'm a straight male dad in a family

1015
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: that people resent me for that that that people some

1016
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: people look at me and go, you got it all.

1017
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: You have no deficiencies. You know that that that in

1018
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: some way that that's almost looked down upon by some people.

1019
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: And I think that, you know, that's everything that I

1020
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: always always knew to strive to be. And and and

1021
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: then there's a certain group of people that that feel

1022
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: like that that I feel like I've been made to

1023
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: feel like that, that's you know what I mean, snarky.

1024
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 2: But so you write the song? Was it a feeling

1025
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 2: you had? Or we're gonna chase this song? Was it

1026
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 2: a few words? Was it a like a melt a hook?

1027
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 1: Like?

1028
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 2: How did the song start?

1029
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: It started just the first line, I gotta see I

1030
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: don't like with this world's headed just don't get it,

1031
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: don't get it. That's how the song came along. And

1032
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: it was you know, the song is written from from

1033
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: my standpoint. The song is about not judging people. You know,

1034
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: I felt like I was being judged for who I am.

1035
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I don't judge other people

1036
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: for who they are, and I don't you know, yes,

1037
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 1: I'm a conservative, male, dad, heterold man, but I don't

1038
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: give a shit what you do in your bedroom. Don't

1039
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: your decisions and what your life has led you to,

1040
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 1: or that's your you're cross to bear. I don't. I

1041
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: have no play into that, and I'm not going to

1042
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: tell you're right or wrong. You know. It's just like,

1043
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna be I'm not gonna be made

1044
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: to feel And I know that sounds a little but

1045
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 1: there have been times when I was made to feel

1046
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: that I should feel bad for what I was born,

1047
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: and I don't want other people to feel that way

1048
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: about how they live.

1049
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 2: And I think that's the difference in that you are

1050
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: having something, regardless what the situations happened to you, that

1051
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,240
Speaker 2: you're not doing to other people. So it doesn't feel

1052
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 2: like right, this is fair.

1053
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: Well, I feel like that if you're privilege, well.

1054
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 2: If you were screaming hey, you can't you shouldn't be

1055
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 2: gay loudly, no, I think I would probably understand if

1056
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 2: people were yelling at you, oh you're but but you're saying,

1057
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 2: you're you're just living.

1058
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: Your life, right, and I think that's what everybody should do. Right.

1059
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 2: So this what's been the feedback on the song, Uh, you.

1060
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: Know, mixed. You know, you get some people that think

1061
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: that that I'm bashing you know other you know, choices

1062
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: that people make, and that's not the case. You know,

1063
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: It's just about be who you are, be proud of

1064
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: who you are, love who you want to love, do

1065
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: what you want to do. That's at the end of

1066
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: the day. I'm not your judge. You're in my opinion,

1067
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: because I am a Christian that you're gonna have to

1068
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: deal with that. So later on by somebody that's way

1069
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: got more. You know, I'm not the judge. That's that's

1070
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: somebody else's gig me.

1071
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 2: I'm a judge. I'll be the greatest king of the world,

1072
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 2: of the world. I'm not even king of America. I'll

1073
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 2: be the greatest king of the world. And I do

1074
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 2: not know why they don't just an absolutely. So I

1075
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 2: do want to talk about the movie for a second,

1076
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 2: which I don't go to the movie theater.

1077
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:52,280
Speaker 1: I can't.

1078
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 2: I take that back. My wife makes me sometimes, I really.

1079
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: You know, I did I haven't either a long time,

1080
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: but I did.

1081
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 2: These watch this too, Mike. Mike d loved Killers of

1082
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 2: the Flower movie. My wife read the book and so

1083
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 2: we're waiting, Yeah, well did you read.

1084
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 1: It before I read it when I got cast.

1085
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 2: So we're waiting for it because it's an Apple Apple movie, right, Mike, yep.

1086
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 2: So we're waiting for it to come. And she's from Oklahoma.

1087
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 2: My wife is, oh, yeah, yeah, like very much. What

1088
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 2: part of Oklahoma from like near ish Tulsa.

1089
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's where.

1090
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 2: Yes, So she knows a lot about it through like

1091
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 2: three and four generations that would talk about it, right,

1092
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 2: And like she's moved by the story because she has

1093
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 2: personal relationships with people that had personal relationships. So, Mike,

1094
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you ask the first couple questions. I

1095
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 2: know you've seen it, I know the story, but you're

1096
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 2: way more educated on the actual movie.

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00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 5: The senior have is with Leonardo DiCaprio, and one of

1098
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 5: my other favorite movies he did with Scorsese was Wolf

1099
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 5: of Wall Street. And I've seen like a behind the

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00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 5: scenes clip of him like totally in the zone, like

1101
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 5: doesn't even look like he's there, and then right when

1102
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 5: the camera goes on, he instantly goes into that character.

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00:55:58,840 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 2: Does he do that?

1104
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean one of the like, uh, one of

1105
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 1: the things that was noticeable by well, he's he's also

1106
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: when he doesn't look like he's working his mind. Like

1107
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,240
Speaker 1: one of the strangest things would happen was like between

1108
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 1: like between like takes, if we had like downtime, changing

1109
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 1: out film stuff like that, just hanging out talking I did,

1110
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: I'd notice that he would like we'd just kind of

1111
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: shoot the shoot the ship. You know, I don't know

1112
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: if I can say that long a but and then

1113
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: you know, like the next day he would come back

1114
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: to the set and we'd be talking and he would

1115
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: repeat things that I said to him, just like me,

1116
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: like he would download my accent and stuff like that,

1117
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: which is crazy and uh, but no, he would, you know,

1118
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 1: he like there would be time we'd just be throwing

1119
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: a ball or something out out in the yard and

1120
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: then you know it would be time to go back in.

1121
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: You know, like he very normal, very normal guy, but

1122
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: also freaking amazing whenever whenever they would yell action how

1123
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: he would just freaking go at it. You know. It

1124
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: was just kind of like stepping on the Grand ole

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00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: operat and them saying your turn and like doing what

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00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: I do, you kind of have to. Just one of

1127
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: the things that was so cool about it to me

1128
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: and I enjoyed about the whole process is that I was,

1129
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: first of all, was scared of death, you know, like

1130
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: I'd never done this. I was like, I don't know

1131
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: what the hell I'm doing here. And but the same

1132
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: is even now, before I go on stage, I'm a

1133
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: little anxious and like these people are gonna hate me whatever.

1134
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: But when it came time to go to the set

1135
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: from you know, the actors a little where we're staged

1136
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: to go to the actual getting cameras, the same the

1137
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: same gear was shifted in my being that that is

1138
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: when I'm walking to the stage to go play music

1139
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: and that and it became it fed me like to

1140
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: go do it rather than you know, all the every

1141
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: fear was gone. It was just go time. Really, so

1142
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:20,959
Speaker 1: I seek I could see that in him as well.

1143
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 2: Man, that is awesome that you're just weren't so self conscious.

1144
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: Oh I was, But but I was able to like

1145
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: that blocking mechanism that that happens with going to make music.

1146
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: It totally was the same thing.

1147
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 2: Was it like watching a different kind of artist. For example,

1148
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 2: go to a major League baseball game. Never bet it

1149
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 2: didn't go until I was older, but I would see

1150
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 2: like a real athlete, Like, oh god, I thought i'd

1151
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 2: seen a real athlete until I saw oh, freaking real athlete.

1152
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: That's what it was, absolute, damnolutely it was. It was

1153
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: like and first of all, I'd never seen this whole

1154
00:58:56,200 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: process at all, you know, and so it it was

1155
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: strange that it was and I'd never really done and

1156
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: i'd never done it. The first first scene I shot

1157
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: was the scene that actually made the film. There's a

1158
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: lot of scenes that got cut, you know, they had

1159
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: hundreds of hours of stuff, but they uh, the first

1160
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: scene that I shot was the scene that actually made

1161
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: the film. And it was like four hours of like

1162
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: going back because they shoot it, you know, from every angle.

1163
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: Everybody's in the scene has to do their thing. But

1164
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: and I remember just being like totally like, what the hell,

1165
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: where's Martins? Of course, saying you're up there, and and

1166
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: he's coming over to me, and he's standing over my

1167
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 1: shoulder right here, and I'm sitting at that this desk.

1168
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: You know, it's like that bigger than that thing. But

1169
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: like old school, and I'm sitting there and he's explaining

1170
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: what he wants out of me and talking to me,

1171
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: and I'm like, literally in law light land, what the hell?

1172
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: And so he shoot my angle like I don't know,

1173
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: four times, and Marty, he's over there in this other

1174
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: room where their viewing what's going on. He comes out,

1175
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: all right, we got it, and I went because I'd

1176
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: seen a guy the day before I got there, and

1177
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: I stayed on set all day dressed ready to go

1178
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: to shoot. This scene didn't happen, but I'd seen a

1179
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: guy and another and another scene that that didn't make it. Uh,

1180
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: they shot his this thing like I don't know, it

1181
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: must have been twenty something times because they couldn't get it,

1182
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: didn't get it, and you could sense the you could

1183
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: sense the air leaking out of the room and wasting

1184
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: time and money, and so I was just like went

1185
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: back to my bus out and I was like, please, God,

1186
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: don't let me be that guy I study studies. Well,

1187
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: So then he comes up and he goes, he goes.

1188
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 1: Marty comes out, Okay, Randy, we got it. I was like,

1189
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: we do, and he's like, yeah, we got it, And

1190
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: I was like, are you sure. He's like yeah, uh

1191
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 1: and and he said what And so Leo looks same

1192
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: and says, what do you mean sure? I was like,

1193
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: I've never really done this. He said, what do you

1194
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: mean You've never really done this? I was like, I've

1195
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: never done this. He said, we wouldn't You wouldn't know, you.

1196
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 2: Know, would I would know what I would do? I

1197
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 2: would spiral so bad and go, well, I must have

1198
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 2: been so bad. They know there's no hope, So so

1199
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 2: we're just gonna do it a few times because they

1200
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 2: know we might as well just move on.

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01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's take a quick pause for a message from

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01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 3: our sponsor.

1203
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Bobby Cast.

1204
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Speaker 2: Had to feel watching yourself back?

1205
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: It was weird? Yeah, it was. It was. I went

1206
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 1: to were I was in, oh, somewhere in Texas a

1207
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: few weeks ago, maybe Dallas or somewhere, and we went

1208
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: to one of those mega me and some of my

1209
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: band was during the middle of the day, went to

1210
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 1: one of those megaplex things and it was just the

1211
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: gigantic scream, you know. And actually my buddy sent me

1212
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: video of me watching it while we were sitting there.

1213
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: But it was like, it's emotional as well, you know,

1214
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: it was like, I don't know, it was strange.

1215
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 2: Did you feel the need to in any little bit

1216
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 2: of acting that I've done, I've done it. I did

1217
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 2: a movie with Vanessa Hudgins once, and I did I

1218
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 2: played myself on Nashville where actually had lines later and

1219
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 2: so I did some stuff, but I never to that level.

1220
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 2: But I felt like I had to fake like I belonged. Yeah,

1221
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 2: because I so didn't feel like I did. Like I

1222
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 2: did not feel like I was one of them. But

1223
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 2: I knew I had to be professional and I was

1224
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 2: expected to show up and be just as good as

1225
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 2: they were. I wasn't gonna be as good as they were,

1226
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 2: but to show up, do your job, make sure we

1227
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 2: don't slow production down to the Did you have that

1228
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 2: pressure that you put on yourself.

1229
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't feel like I had to be one

1230
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: of them. I think that one of the coolest things

1231
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: I had done enough, uh, well before I saw this. Okay,

1232
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 1: that was the first one I shot. I shot another

1233
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: one that came out. Yeah, So the one that we're

1234
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: talking about now, I think that I was so far.

1235
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 1: One of the things I got to say is there

1236
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 1: were so many people that weren't actors in that movie. Musicians,

1237
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 1: songwriters and things like that. That that I kind of

1238
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 1: felt like, and I'd heard this that that Scorsese likes

1239
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: to get real people in his movies, just to create

1240
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: that atmosphere of realism, you know, and that aren't actors,

1241
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 1: and just you know, you know, I'm not an actor,

1242
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 1: but if you want somebody that talks like this to

1243
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 1: say that I can do it.

1244
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 2: When you did The Hill with Dennis Quaid, you are.

1245
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 2: But that was your That's a lot of acting.

1246
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a bigger role, a bit definitely a

1247
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 1: bigger a lot more to chew own.

1248
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 2: Were you excited because you'd had a taste.

1249
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, And now I want to do it more because

1250
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: that it was It was you know. Now I'll look

1251
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: at I've only I've only seen Killers of the Flyman

1252
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: once and I was in that like for like ten seconds,

1253
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: you know. But I did a lot. I did a

1254
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: lot of stuff in it, but it just that half

1255
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: of it didn't make it. But there was with the

1256
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: one with Dennis Quaid, The Hill, which I love that movie.

1257
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 1: It's it was I look at it and go damn,

1258
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: because I you know, I have my own studio home

1259
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: where I can sit and play the guitar parts. Many

1260
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 1: times I want and do all those things and I

1261
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 1: look at that and I'm going, damn, I want to

1262
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: do that again. I want to Oh man, I could

1263
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: have done that so much better had I know, you know,

1264
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 1: there's not there's none that opportunity to do that like that.

1265
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: But it did leave me wanting to. Uh, you know what.

1266
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: For me, it was just creatively to be able to

1267
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: explore some other thing and challenge myself was a lot

1268
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 1: of fun. Find fulfillment in it. I did. It was like, uh,

1269
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: but it was all so that thing of like a

1270
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: healthy balance of beating myself up, you know what I mean,

1271
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 1: because it's not I don't really when I go out

1272
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: and I grab my guitar, I go play, I know

1273
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. It was something that was almost like

1274
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 1: standing on the edge of a tall building.

1275
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 2: That's how I felt would stand up when I've really

1276
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,959
Speaker 2: started pursuing it be because it's just that's exactly it.

1277
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 1: I can't imagine, Oh my god, like.

1278
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 2: There's a performance aspect to it, which.

1279
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 1: You do and you get the timing.

1280
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 2: Sure, but then it's there's a big part of it

1281
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 2: where you're just vulnerable again.

1282
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: Oh man, and that vulnerability is scary. Yeah, it's a

1283
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: it's a it's a drug in a way. It's like that.

1284
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 2: And when you do it right, you're right.

1285
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 1: I feel you feel that too. You chase it.

1286
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 2: I need alcohol now, guys, we're back to that. I

1287
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 2: need a beer right now. So I know you're twenty

1288
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 2: twenty four to where you're gonna announce that soon you're

1289
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 2: doing a bunch of dates.

1290
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm think I'm gonna do a lot less than

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Speaker 1: I did this year. I can't. My kids are like,

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Speaker 1: it's just harder and harder to leave home. You know.

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Speaker 2: If this is too much, let me know. I don't

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Speaker 2: know how public you are about it. But Johnny Gilacky,

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Speaker 2: he was with you when I saw you, I didn't

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Speaker 2: even see you. Scare the crap out of me walking

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Speaker 2: up to the I'm in my car, we're about to leave.

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Speaker 2: You're like, Bobby, I see a dude with a beard

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Speaker 2: coming at me from the left.

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Speaker 1: Oh what have I done?

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Speaker 2: And then I was like, oh god, I didn't steal anything.

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Speaker 2: I swear to god. It was you. And are you

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Speaker 2: got How did you guys get to know each other?

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Speaker 1: We met uh on Taddy I'm and I when we

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01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: got married. We met on our honeymoon on a Lutherra

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01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 1: and he was on break from shooting Big Bang. I'd

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01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 1: never seen Big Bang, you know, and and we we

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01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: ended up, you know, out back smoking cigarettes and just

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01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 1: ended up talking and sort of figured out what each

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Speaker 1: other did. And but we just hit it off and

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Speaker 1: then it was it was you know, it was sort

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Speaker 1: of like an instant friendship.

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Speaker 2: And and I, uh, you know, he wasn't living here then,

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Speaker 2: was he in l A?

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Speaker 1: He was in l A. Yeah, And we stayed in touch,

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Speaker 1: and we ended up doing putting on a benefit uh

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Speaker 1: for uh Poso Saloon as a place out in northern

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Speaker 1: California that uh I think it's shut down now, but

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Speaker 1: the one of the owners was had a cancer battle

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Speaker 1: and they weren't making any money out there. So we

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Speaker 1: went and raised a bunch of money and he and

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Speaker 1: I put this thing on for them, and so we

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Speaker 1: just became friends and we would figure out, you know,

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Speaker 1: he would come to Nashville some hang stay with us,

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Speaker 1: and I'd go stay with his place and hang out,

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Speaker 1: and we just we could kind of it was it

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Speaker 1: was weird because we're completely two different worlds. It was

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Speaker 1: kind of like you know, it was. It was strange

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01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 1: because completely different backgrounds, completely different views a lot of

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Speaker 1: ways politically, and but somehow have always been able to

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Speaker 1: find our spot and never get mad. You know.

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Speaker 2: That's a that's a difference in one on one and

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Speaker 2: human to human then pack and pack.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Because if it almost doesn't matter if you let's just

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Speaker 2: say you're having a situation, your car's broken down, or

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01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 2: you're in a parking lot and somebody's going to help you. Yeah,

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01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 2: Now would a group of one side help a group

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Speaker 2: of another side. Probably not if it's PACKMNTAC, which is sad, yes,

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Speaker 2: But when it comes to human human, yeah, like that

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01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 2: stuff is secondary in life. Absolutely, we've made it a

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Speaker 2: little more forward than we should. We've let it really

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Speaker 2: define us more than I say, it's just us as

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Speaker 2: an American culture. Yeah, but I know when it comes

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Speaker 2: to person to person, I've never had an issue with

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Speaker 2: helping anybody, anybody helping me because of any sort of

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Speaker 2: affiliation I have with anything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think sometimes I think we have it so

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01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 1: good and our and today in these times that that

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Speaker 1: we have had to create ship to fight about. We're bored.

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Speaker 2: We're just like the smart kid in school get in

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01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 2: trouble because.

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Speaker 1: We're all gonna eat. Well, we're all gonna you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, dude. And the other thing that I

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Speaker 1: find was that I h that most uh, most people

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Speaker 1: are you know, you have media outlets that want to

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Speaker 1: you know, they make money off pulling people further and

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Speaker 1: further these sides, and and really everybody's not that far.

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Speaker 2: It's ninety eight percent of the same. The focus is

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01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 2: on the two to three percent we're not. They make

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Speaker 2: money everybody they made by selling commercials because it's sensational.

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Speaker 2: Every side the news. The news is not the news.

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01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 2: The news is entertainment, right, every every part of it.

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Speaker 2: And the same thing with politicians, like they want to

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Speaker 2: divide us so they can have us and that's section

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Speaker 2: votes and you just build your section up big.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it's wild.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but okay, look, let's end. The song is canceled,

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Speaker 2: The Randy the Dennis.

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Speaker 1: Question songs canceled.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the song, the Dennis Quad movie The Hill, which

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Speaker 2: you do more acting, which you know I think now

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01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 2: people are like, you know, Randy's and Killers of the

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Speaker 2: Flower Moon, and you are but there's definitely there's definitely

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Speaker 2: more of you. Yeah as well, it's you know, a

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Speaker 2: seasoned actor in the hill.

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Speaker 1: Well there's you know, to even get a part in

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Speaker 1: the Scorsese film was like crazy, right, you know. I

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01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,719
Speaker 1: was like even watching I was like, I'm almost in there.

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Speaker 1: But like and then then I have friends that are

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Speaker 1: actors that are like, dude, we've been trying to get

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Speaker 1: in a Scorsese film for twenty five years. That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: So that was cool.

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Speaker 2: You're playing golf this week?

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Speaker 1: I am? Yeah, hopefully, I definitely am. Uh next week?

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Speaker 1: Why definitely next week because we're going to uh, we're

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Speaker 1: going on our trip Bahamas.

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Speaker 2: Oh you're playing out there?

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01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your handy? Goat?

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01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm eleven.

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Speaker 1: We should go.

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Speaker 2: We should go. Let me Yeah, let's because listen, most

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Speaker 2: of my friends have real jobs. Yeah, so it's like

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Speaker 2: I can play golf a like noon, yeah, because I

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01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 2: work early in the morning. Yeah, so yeah, that'll be fun.

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Speaker 1: We go there's there's I mean, I go to the

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Speaker 1: I'll go to Old Hickory something.

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Speaker 2: I never played ol Hickory. We went up there and

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Speaker 2: looked because my course was shut down for a little bit.

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Speaker 1: It's fun. Yeah, it's uh, I mean, it's just fun.

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Speaker 1: Let's put that way. I like to you know, there's.

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Speaker 2: Why I put it that way. Somebody get murdered on

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Speaker 2: the course.

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Speaker 1: No, it's just like right now it's freaking no brown

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Speaker 1: or ye, no member. Yeah, but yeah, it's a blast

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Speaker 1: out there.

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Speaker 2: I just took read and we went and I tell

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Speaker 2: you up in Monterey. Yeah, Yeah, it was awesome. It's elite.

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Speaker 2: It's it's like doing stuff that I never thought i'd

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Speaker 2: get to do. But also you have to be a member,

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01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 2: and we're not members obviously, so it's like somebody calls

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Speaker 2: and finds a member. Then you go on like a

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Speaker 2: blind date with an old man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're like, that's like this place where I'm

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Speaker 1: going to next week, the Abaco Club, freaking heaven on Earth.

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01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:05,639
Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of down by the same area

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Speaker 1: as the other one, and it's just like, I can't.

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Speaker 1: It's like Ron White when he's talking about he's rolling

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01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: that place and he's like, nobody's stopping me.

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Speaker 2: You guys. Follow Randy at Randy Hauser on Instagram and Twitter.

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01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 2: Same thing at Randy Hauser and then Randyheuser dot com.

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Speaker 2: We'll be waiting for the tour announcement and the song

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Speaker 2: is canceled, and we love talking with you. We've just

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01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 2: been an hour with each other. I could do another

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01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 2: hour pretty easily, so let's do it. Okay, So it's

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Speaker 2: the next step. Randy, good to talk to you, Buddy,

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Speaker 2: you

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Speaker 3: Too, Thanks, Bob, thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast

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Speaker 3: production