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Speaker 1: Welcome to money making Conversations. I'm your host, Rashean McDonald.

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Speaker 1: realized that I'm not lucky, I'm gifted. God is giving

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Speaker 1: me all these gifts. Now I have to apply them

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Speaker 1: properly and under the person who achieved that foundation of me,

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Speaker 1: the resolution of understanding what was with Steve Harvey and

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Speaker 1: so because all those gifts are poured into his career

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Speaker 1: and allowed him to become the person and we both

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Speaker 1: benefited from that level of success. So when you say

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Speaker 1: people get in the sixteen, have a clear understanding the direction.

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Speaker 1: All you're getting right now, Michelle is an undis assessment

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Speaker 1: of yourself and what you want to do. That's what

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Speaker 1: you're doing right now. That's why it's important that we talk.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see you because I owe you

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Speaker 1: a big hug. I owe you sit down and walk

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Speaker 1: in the park. Just just something normal, Just a normal

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Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald talking to a normal Michelle to Nuetra Michelle Williams.

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Speaker 1: That's what I owe Atlanta. Okay, well come on now,

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Speaker 1: I owe your meal. We will connect this week, seriously.

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Speaker 1: I literally I just became an official Georgia resident. I

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Speaker 1: got my license. Real. Then we won't connect because as

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Speaker 1: I got, I bought a building here. I believe me.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk because I would love that because

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Speaker 1: before we out of time, I want to talk about

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Speaker 1: the book to it that you're kind of coming up here.

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Speaker 1: You know, the topics ranging for all these celebrities or

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Speaker 1: your book to the story in May eight. You know

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Speaker 1: Roger p Henson, Lacre, that's my boy, Tina Loss and

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Speaker 1: that's mc girl Latonia Lucky. Let's talk about this, uh,

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Speaker 1: this book to which virtual to it? That you're hosted. Correct. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's uh conversations with Michelle Williams. Um as it relates

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Speaker 1: to my book Checking In. And some of the topics

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Speaker 1: some great names. We've got Divon Franklin chand Lamore, Tabatha Brown.

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Speaker 1: She's gonna we're gonna be talking about what the topic

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Speaker 1: was supposed to be community, but she and I just

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Speaker 1: talked about so much her health and um like tag

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Speaker 1: like you said, Lacrai, LaToya luck At, Tina Lost and

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Speaker 1: Chloe Bailey. Dr Caroline Leaf who is a neuroscientist and

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Speaker 1: can break stuff down. She is phenomenal. Dr India Phillips

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Speaker 1: as well. UM, some a great mixture of um, you know, celebrities,

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Speaker 1: you know, giving some practical advice. And then we've got

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Speaker 1: to we've got Dr India Phillips that's a psychologist and

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Speaker 1: I named Dr Caroline Leaf as a neuroscientist, UM who

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Speaker 1: can also kind of scientifically, um kind of break down

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Speaker 1: what the mind and brain goes through. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm just I am smiling. I am at you because

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Speaker 1: I am talking to I'm talking to you now. I'm

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Speaker 1: talking to the Nutra, I'm talking to a person you

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Speaker 1: know words. Nobody has written a song for you now,

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Speaker 1: Nobody has told you a beat, nobody's told you a

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Speaker 1: chore at graft to move it in this conversation. And

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Speaker 1: I want these interviews. I want you to be you.

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Speaker 1: I want you to be to Nitra. I want you

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Speaker 1: to be that eighteen year old who wanted to go

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Speaker 1: to Illinois stage, who wanted to major in criminal justice.

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Speaker 1: But they had this big old gift, this ability to

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Speaker 1: the same. And you will you and you will and

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Speaker 1: you will. Uh, I say, not sure how to go

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Speaker 1: because you're a church girl and you had that second

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Speaker 1: over there, that secondly that you know, battling that so

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Speaker 1: you always had that battle and so so what God

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Speaker 1: has done for you now and this is what He's

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Speaker 1: done for you. He set you on another path to

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Speaker 1: be you. And these interviews Claude Bailey, you know, J.

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Speaker 1: P hen craz These ain't names you just throw out

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Speaker 1: that people don't. These people, these people, they spend time

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Speaker 1: with you, they love you, they believe in it. And

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Speaker 1: you know Terager, she just finished a healing show for

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Speaker 1: in she just finished a healing show. Look, Craize just

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Speaker 1: came off that book Healing, Finding God, Understanding Religion his Way,

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Speaker 1: you know. And so I just look at all this

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Speaker 1: and Davine frankl we all know about him, and Tamar

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Speaker 1: Bractice interviewed her. You know. So when I look at

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Speaker 1: you and this tour, I just see the next step

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Speaker 1: for you and what I want to say to you, Michelle,

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Speaker 1: be you, Be you girl, Be the person I'm talking

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Speaker 1: to right now. Be honest, uh and lead us and

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Speaker 1: lead these people. Don't be don't don't be caught up,

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Speaker 1: and they might be leading them like I've been leading

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Speaker 1: people for years. Sitting there telling the truth. You are

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Speaker 1: a leader, young lady. You are talking the truth. Share

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Speaker 1: your story and when you share your story, people will listen.

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Speaker 1: And when they listen, they want to hear how they

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Speaker 1: can be led and they be led in a positive manner.

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Speaker 1: You are. You're so close to what you want to

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Speaker 1: be in life. Now, don't stop. You're on the edge.

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Speaker 1: You're looking, You're looking across the mountain top. Go over it. Climate.

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying right now, come on, come on,

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Speaker 1: that's saying. Now. When I go over. I'm gonna para.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. Don't worry. It's gounda be so

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Speaker 1: many people waiting on you with their arms open, talking

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Speaker 1: about thank you, talking about I need you, talking about

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Speaker 1: who else you can help. It's gonna be so many

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Speaker 1: people waiting for this, to need your Michelle Williams, this

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Speaker 1: version that you of life, this is your next version

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Speaker 1: of life. This is your conversion. This is I've lived

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Speaker 1: many lives in my and I've been for it. I'm

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Speaker 1: living in another path. When I left Steve, really living

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Speaker 1: to twenty four. That's when I'm living right now. And

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Speaker 1: so I'm just telling you right now, that eighteen year

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Speaker 1: so what happens. I always tell people between eighteen and

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Speaker 1: now that will make that eighteen to twenty four years

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Speaker 1: work for you. Just leading with honestly, yes, sir, yes, sir, yeah,

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Speaker 1: leading with honesty, leading with the ability to understand that

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Speaker 1: you are great. I just wanted to take the time

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Speaker 1: asking for all that people to take photos. But more important,

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Speaker 1: that I need about seven pounds. Word, don't worry about,

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Speaker 1: don't worry about. Help me. When you leave, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: leave you gonna leave with a cake. Michelle. First of all,

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Speaker 1: I want to wrap in this interview and just say

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Speaker 1: I am so blessed to talk to you now this version.

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Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, don't get me wrong. You always

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Speaker 1: be one of my favorite people. But to hear you

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Speaker 1: talking the way you're talking now as tantra, yeah, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, oh my god. The blessings are gonna be

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Speaker 1: just over. So go to that mountaintop when you look over,

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Speaker 1: I swear to you, it's gonna be so many people

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Speaker 1: that here because you're gonna have to. They've got the part.

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Speaker 1: The ways they're gonna go. What what took you so long?

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Speaker 1: It took me forward one year, But I'm here, y'all,

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Speaker 1: I'm here. Come on, Yes, thank you, Thank you, Michelle

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Speaker 1: coming on to Nitra, Michell coming on Money Make Conversations.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you Mr Rashaan McDonald for having me

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Well. First of all, you know, we're

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Speaker 1: like all people were shocked, like all people, But somehow

639
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: the real estate industry was still booming doing COVID. Talk

640
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 1: to me about that, absolutely, so it was definitely a shock. Um.

641
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: You know, no one really anticipated what COVID would bring

642
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: us to our lives, right but real estate. We really

643
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: had an incredible year with regards to real estate. One

644
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: of the main drivers where that was the fact that

645
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: interest rates were at such an all time low. I mean,

646
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: there were so many buyers that were able to enter

647
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: the market and get you know, less than three percent

648
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 1: interest rate on their homes, and then those who already

649
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: owned homes were able to use the refinancing programs in

650
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: order to get even lower interest rates than what they

651
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: currently had. So because of that, there was such a

652
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: rush of people wanting to buy. Uh that really just

653
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: increase the purchase prices brought things through the roof. On

654
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: top of the fact that I'm here in Atlanta, where

655
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: you know, we make social media. Because of social media,

656
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: it looks like the best place on Earth, which I'm

657
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: biased because I live here. I think it is the

658
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: best place on her to live. And so we have

659
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: such an influx of people who are coming and relocating

660
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: here to experience some of this black excellence, to experience

661
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 1: the culture and just the energy of the city. So

662
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: our purchase prices are going through the route. Really not

663
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: only just in Atlanta. I know, my wife is in

664
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: Houston and she was selling her mom's home and the

665
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: asking price was like a hundred and seventy thousand dollars.

666
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: She sold for over two hundred thousand dollars. And she

667
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: and it wasn't because she was raising the price. It

668
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: became a bidding war. It was like it was like

669
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Speaker 1: the home, I'll be honest with the home was not

670
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: just a nice little pattio home, single story, you know, uh,

671
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: nondescript community neighborhood in Houston, Texas. And it was just

672
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: she had like fourteen buyers, like within three weeks. What

673
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: is great and the shortest It's incredible how many buyers

674
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: were overbidding on properties. I have buyers now that are

675
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 1: not even asking for a closing costs. That's almost have

676
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: heard of right now in our market. Uh, the praise

677
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: values aren't always coming in, but you have buyers now

678
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: paying the difference between what's being lended to them and

679
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: that appraise value in order to get into these homes.

680
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: When you get these titles, you know, one of the

681
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,280
Speaker 1: youngest real estate brokerage owners in the United State, age,

682
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 1: you know, and you can get those financial numbers attached

683
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: to you, so people expect certain things from you multimillion

684
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: dollar deal closer, and your woman don't. So let's talk

685
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: about the youth for the youth part of viewer of

686
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: your career right now and how the benefits of it

687
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: and also the building that experience and respect level. Absolutely.

688
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: So when I became a real estate broker, I was

689
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: pretty young, and there weren't many other women or black

690
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: women especially that I could really look at and get

691
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: experience from. So being a pioneer comes with a lot,

692
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: especially when you're a black woman. So I had to

693
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: really just say with it myself that you know what,

694
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if other people have paved the way

695
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: for me in order to do this. I'm gonna do it.

696
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try it. What's the worst that can happen,

697
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: you know? And so it's been the best decision that

698
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 1: I could have made, being able to inspire other women

699
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: of color to now start other broke bridges, even within

700
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: my own team, having some of those ages to create

701
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,479
Speaker 1: under my brokeridge or branching out and starting their own.

702
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: So it's been a beautiful journey to be able to

703
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: make that decision and make that happen on the flip

704
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: side of it, because you don't necessarily have a road map.

705
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: You have to go through the trials and tripulations on

706
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: your own. You know, I've had you know, I've lost

707
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: a ton of money. This is actually my second brokerage

708
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: because the first brokerage that I had, I went into

709
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: partnership with someone and it wasn't a good bit, didn't

710
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: work out. So you have to go through a lot

711
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 1: of trials and error, uh, lose a lot of money

712
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: and then still keep going if it's something that you really,

713
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 1: really truly want to do. Okay, So the next question

714
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 1: is being that you're female, Like I said, you're young,

715
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: you're African American, and then the fact that you've already

716
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: publicly admitted in this interview that just what they're gonna

717
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 1: be some hiccups, and some of those hiccups are gonna

718
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: cost you money. How do you overcome that? It wasn't

719
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: tied to not having a budget, tied to not going

720
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: into business with the right person. What what made you

721
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: stumble on that first? The you also say I won't

722
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: stumble like that again. Absolutely, So the biggest thing is

723
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 1: I didn't take my time and doing my due diligence.

724
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Speaker 1: So what I encourage people to do is when you

725
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: decide to start a business, of course you're gonna do

726
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: due diligence on the industry. You're gonna research, you know

727
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: how it could be profitable, and things of that nature.

728
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: But when you're talking about actually starting with a partner,

729
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 1: you need to do due diligence on that as well,

730
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: because that's essentially also a marriage. So the same way

731
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 1: you would date someone and you want to know their background,

732
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: you want to know what their parents are like, you

733
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: want to know their credit score, you want to know

734
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: what their personality is. You have to also take that

735
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: same approach in business and do a lot of due

736
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: diligence before you sign your name on a got in

737
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: line with someone, because if you don't, you can end

738
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: up again losing a business, missing out on a lot

739
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: of time and a lot of money because you chose

740
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: to jump at an opportunity um more quickly than you

741
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: should have. Now, that's really good, good notes, and thank

742
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: you for telling my my listeners. And also it's my

743
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: views about this because we're now I earn on a

744
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: I B t V in the Atlanta market on Comcast

745
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 1: tune in in five cuple to million homes and watching

746
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: us weekly on Thursday night. The show premiers at nine

747
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: pm Eastern Standard Time. I want to just tell you this, Deniece,

748
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: when I when I look at you, I look at

749
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: a talented person. But you know, I just read some

750
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: nice credits about you. You know that they sent over

751
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: to me. Who are you? Who am I? So me? Personally,

752
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: I am obviously a real estate broker here in Atlanta,

753
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 1: but more on a personal level, I am a mother

754
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: before anything. I think that's the most powerful title that

755
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: I've ever had to a son named Destin who's actually

756
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: the co owner in my business. And one of the

757
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: things I want to encourage the listeners out there, especially parents,

758
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: is that you need to make sure that you're taking

759
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 1: your children along the journey. So one of the things

760
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 1: that I do with my son is I don't actually

761
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: make any decisions in my business without his approval. He

762
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: gets to see every commission check that I earned. He

763
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: helps me to hire and to fire. Uh, he gives

764
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: me his opinion on things of that nature. Because I

765
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: think that it's so important that we stop being just

766
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: first generation millionaires, our first business owners in our family,

767
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: or first this and first, that at some point we

768
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: have to start leaving a legacy where our children are

769
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: second and third and fourth generations to the businesses that

770
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: we created. So personally, I'm just so driven by legacy

771
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: and just teaching not only my students in my c

772
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: own our academy how to become owners, but also in

773
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: my very own households. That's something that I'm personally very

774
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 1: passionate about. Now being a member of a very powerful sisterhood, uh,

775
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: the ladies of Delta Stigma Data and come on, I'm

776
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: a proud member of Maga Side five Fraternity Incorporated. So again,

777
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: the blessings are we have a certain enough leon is

778
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: as they say, which just runs back to the fraternity

779
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: in the sorority, but that helps having that relationship that

780
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: you can turn to sisters who trust, who want you

781
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: to have that upwardly mobile mobile concept in life, and

782
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: also are pushing you with relationships that you can count on.

783
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: I think that really helped you as well. And I

784
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: want to talk about the value of relationships as it

785
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: is with your with your sorority, but also in life,

786
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: because you gotta have relationships to win. Absolutely so with

787
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: regard to being in a sorority, it was a beautiful

788
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: experience to be able to join Delta Sigma Data's already incorporated.

789
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 1: It was absolutely amazing. In fact, my first real estate

790
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: transaction back into thousand and twelve when I got my

791
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: license was one of my line sisters. So that was

792
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: the benefit of like actually being in a sorority because

793
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: you can be honest with him, right, you can tell

794
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: them it's your first time, and they're gonna be patient

795
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: with you and they're gonna give you that opportunity versus

796
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 1: really going out with a stranger and taking them through

797
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: the process and making a lot of mistakes. So I

798
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: really appreciate my line sister for being willing to do

799
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: that and to trust me in that process, being that

800
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: it was my very first transaction. And as far as

801
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: just relationships across aboard, relationships are gonna get you indoors.

802
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: That money can't buy and I tell people that all

803
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: the time. But you have to appreciate relationships with people

804
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: and never play the short game. You always want to

805
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: make sure that when you're thinking about business, especially in

806
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: the service based industry, never think about someone as a transaction.

807
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: Never think about that is just a one time, a

808
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: one hit wonder if you will, because you're not only

809
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: servicing that person, they're watching you to be able to

810
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: service their friends and their family. So, especially in the

811
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: real estate business, you want to have a repeat and

812
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: referral business. That's the only way that you can make

813
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 1: it through. Okay, let's go and listen. You're an attractive

814
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: woman and so in the business where people can only

815
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: see you for being attractive, but you also a businesswoman.

816
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: So how do you make sure people understand who you are?

817
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: Who's Denis Williams. You're about business. Don't let the cold food,

818
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: you don't let the makeup food, you don't let the

819
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: hair fool you. You know, because some people try to

820
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: try to blend that, try to make it your your

821
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: calls or make their business deals. You're trying to close

822
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: to be more than what it really is. How do

823
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: you make that define that line about business is business.

824
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: I respect me for doing good business, all right. So

825
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: that's an incredible question. I actually never been asked that

826
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: question before. So one of the things that I take

827
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: pride and is expect myself on social media. I'm not

828
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: gonna show a lot of skin on social sure that

829
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 1: people are looking at me as a business person, as

830
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: a professional. We both in personal and professional lifestyles. If

831
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: you're showing people one thing and you're portraying something that

832
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna try you, uh, that's just the nature of

833
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: what it is. And even with regard to conversation, you

834
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: want to make sure that you're keeping all of your

835
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: conversations about business. If you find that you're working with

836
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: a client who is taking that conversation to the left field,

837
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: then you want to check it at that time. You

838
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: don't want to go down that rabbit hole and entertain

839
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,479
Speaker 1: it and keep key with this person. Because number one,

840
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: you have to make sure that you're protecting your reputation,

841
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: especially as you elevate in the state age that I'm

842
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: at in business, it's going to be even more important

843
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: for me to make sure that people aren't saying the

844
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: wrong things about me and how I've been able to

845
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: get to where I am. Well, it's important because right

846
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: now you have like sixty agents said under your business umbrella. Now,

847
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. You're doing something I

848
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: can't do. Okay, I people say, well, it was because

849
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: it's a unique thought process. You have to you have

850
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: to be patient. One thing. You have to be patient.

851
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: You have to be knowledgeable of the of the trends.

852
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: You have to be like on your feet accountant or

853
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: because people ask you numbers all the time. What really

854
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: got you into the business? You know? And being in

855
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: real estate? Because your your degree was in finance out

856
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: of Valdosta, right, yes, okay, so that that didn't say

857
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: anything about real estate. So how did you make the

858
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: shift to this? Yeah? Absolutely great questions. So when I

859
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: graduated with a degree in finance from Bladasa State University,

860
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: I went to Portorate route. I went into a position

861
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: that I felt was one of the probably the worst

862
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: jobs I've been And the reason being is not because

863
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: it was corporate, right. It was because I was actually

864
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: in an industry where I wasn't helping my culture, I

865
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: was actually hurting my culture. It was for a title

866
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: pond company. So I felt like I checked all the

867
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: boxes with regards to going to college. You know, I

868
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: pledged in the sorority, I had a high g p A.

869
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: I you know, join honor societies, did community service. But

870
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, I still couldn't find a job that

871
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: was professional in my opinion, and so I had to

872
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: find a way to get out of that. And so

873
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: in doing research, you know, when I looked at millionaires

874
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: and billionaires, I realized that all of them had their

875
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: hands in real estate, whether they were investing, whether they

876
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: were owning, whatever the case may be. And I'm like, wow, Okay,

877
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: if I know that that is where I want to go,

878
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: then I need to duplicate the system, right, So I

879
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: decided to look into real estate. And I was also

880
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: a single mother at the time, and I needed a

881
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: job that was gonna give me lexibility with regards to

882
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: my schedule. And I also don't like people telling me

883
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: what to do and then telling me what to do.

884
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: Some one can come to me as my boss and say, well,

885
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: your only work this X month of dollars per year.

886
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: I just didn't like that. I wanted to be in

887
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: an industry that I could choose and dictate what my

888
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: work and income could be. And so real estate checked

889
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: all the boxes, especially with being able to be my

890
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: own boss. You know, I always wanted to become an entrepreneur.

891
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 1: I love helping people, and I think this industry matches

892
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: me perfectly. Well, I'm gonna tell you something. I bought

893
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: several homes in my life. You go to that title

894
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: company and they give that piece of that a piece

895
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: of paper, that book to sign, which I don't know

896
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: what's in there. I just they say side side, side side.

897
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: I just start sign it because lord knows, I don't

898
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm signing it. What is in that thick

899
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 1: piece of closing paperwork? Can you help a brother? I'll

900
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: help my viewers out. But listen to because we just

901
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 1: signing and trusting broker, our real estate agent to get

902
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: us through because the title of person, we don't know.

903
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: That's just a company that you work with on a

904
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: regular basis. They have their set fees. You have to

905
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: have them to close or to close on your home.

906
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: What is that thick piece of paper that I've signed

907
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: more than six times in my life and still don't

908
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Absolutely, So we have a running

909
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: joke in real estate where it's like, you know, make

910
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: sure you bring up extra hands the closing because you're

911
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: gonna have to have so many different documents that you're

912
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: gonna be signing. So that's a great question. Most of

913
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: those documents are gonna be documents from your lender. They're

914
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: gonna make sure, so one of the misconceptions is that

915
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: when you're purchasing a home, the closing attorney is working

916
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: on your behalf as a buyer, and that's not the case.

917
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: The closing attorney actually works for the lender, so all

918
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: of those documents are lending. Most of those documents rather

919
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: are lender documents, so that lender is making sure that

920
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 1: you're not only telling them over the phone and sending

921
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: documents that you are who you say you are, but

922
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: you're actually signing in writing to state that what you

923
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: gave them is in fact true. They're also making you

924
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: signed documents that are gonna make sure you understand the

925
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: details of your loans so that later on you can't say, well,

926
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 1: I didn't know that my amatization schedule was gonna do this,

927
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: or I was actually paying double for the home and

928
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: this way and that way. So I encourage you to

929
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: look at the amortization schedule before you sign, so that

930
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: you have a clear understanding of what you're actually going

931
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: to be paying back over thirty years. You're also gonna

932
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: be looking over what we call alto statement, which actually

933
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: breaks out all the costume fees that you're paying at closing.

934
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: So some of those fees are gonna be your closing costs,

935
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: So the closing attorney's fees, you're appro raded taxes, you're

936
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: they're gonna ask for your homeowners insurance policy, things like that.

937
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: All of those things have to be outlined that closing

938
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: in order to protect you and the lending when you signed, brother, NA,

939
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: what I do look at the amazization amateurization because I

940
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 1: won't know what I'm paying. I'll tell you I do that.

941
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: I do look at the sheet that tells me the taxes,

942
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: what feeds being there, what the percentage of the of

943
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 1: the of the loan is going to be. Because I've

944
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,280
Speaker 1: been fortunate, I have paid off all my loans ahead

945
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: of time, and also that most loans nowadays don't have

946
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: a pre payment penalty. So if you are a buyer

947
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: out there, then it's awesome. You can definitely pay your

948
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: loan back early by making additional payments throughout the month.

949
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 1: But most people when they look at is just that

950
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: cost to buyer a line which is at the bottom

951
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 1: saying how much you need to actually bring to closing.

952
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: But I encourage you to also double check and make

953
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: sure that any credits that you were supposed to receive

954
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: throughout the process, especially from a seller, if they said

955
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: that they were going to contribute, say ten thousand dollars

956
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: towards your closing costs, you want to make sure you're

957
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: getting credit for that at closing. There have been issues

958
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: and errors. No one's perfect right where sometimes you might

959
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: close and you didn't actually get the credit that you

960
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: were supposed to. So that's why it's very important that

961
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 1: you work for the realtor that's gonna double check those

962
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: documents for you to make sure that you're not overpaying

963
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 1: something that you shouldn't have been paying in the first place. Well,

964
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: miss Williams, let's let's go to this question here. I

965
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: bought a building in Atlanta last year and I bought home.

966
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: What is the difference or do you do commercial as

967
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 1: well as a residential and what it's a difference between

968
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: residential being a residential realtor and a commercial realtor. Yeah, absolutely,

969
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 1: so I primary service residential clientele. UM. I've done a

970
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: few commercial transactions. I've actually just become a part of

971
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 1: the U. L I. Reek program where I'm learning more

972
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: about commercial real estate because unfortunately it's one of those

973
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: industries that we don't really have access to. It is

974
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: a very tight knit type field, but it's something that

975
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna allow to be an excuse for me.

976
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: So I am diving head first into commercial real estate

977
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: this year. UM. Now, with regard to the difference, one

978
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: of the misconceptions about commercial real estate is that you

979
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: actually need a separate license to be a commercial realtor.

980
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: That's not true. When you get your real estate license,

981
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: your your license to sell all real property, so that

982
00:53:55,320 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 1: means buildings, houses, lands, uh, anything that is real estate related.

983
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 1: So I think because they've done such a good job

984
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: of marketing them separately, a lot of agents never think

985
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: that they can actually learn or sell commercial real estate.

986
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: So I'm so excited that you actually took a stabb

987
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: it in and purchased commercial real estate, because even as

988
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: business owners, a lot of times we don't look at, okay,

989
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: well how can I own a building? A lot of

990
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: times we'll just look at okay, I want to fix

991
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: some flip for property, or I want to buy a house,

992
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,280
Speaker 1: you know, to add to my portfolio. But I encourage

993
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: the listeners to think about being a commercial landlord. You

994
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: can own a commercial building and have tenants paying rent

995
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: the same way you can own a house and have

996
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: tenants paying rent. So don't box yourself in and think

997
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: that you only need to buy residential real estate when

998
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: commercial real estate can be even more lucrative depending on

999
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 1: what you purchased. Absolutely, now you're more than as they said,

1000
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 1: she's more than a real estate agent, she's more than

1001
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: a brokerage. Now do you have a building? You know

1002
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: you have an officer? Are you virtual? When I see

1003
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: I see sixty ages? Are there's sixty agents located in

1004
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: one location? Or they through virtual they're coming out office?

1005
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: Uh there is there building someplace with your name on it, Denise, Yes,

1006
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 1: it is. So. After COVID, we've we've taken a higher approach.

1007
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: I've had an office s base since I started my business.

1008
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: We actually just moved out of Buckhead into the West End,

1009
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: which is an amazing up and coming area at the

1010
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,720
Speaker 1: Metropolitan Loss. The reason I left Buckhead not it wasn't

1011
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: anything bad. It was just that I think culturally it's

1012
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: gonna be a benefit for us to be in the

1013
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: West End because of the growth. And then also in

1014
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: my new space, I'm able to have more of a

1015
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: creative environment. So we're actually located at six eight Murphy

1016
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: Avenue Southwest in Atlanta three or three one oh. And

1017
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: in this new space, we're actually gonna have a full kitchen.

1018
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: I'm in my build out phase right now, so I'm

1019
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: so excited about it. We're gonna have a pull kitchen

1020
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: so that when clients closed with my company, they're able

1021
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 1: to actually get a chef's sponsored dinner, UH at certain

1022
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: price points. We're creating an experience for our clientele. Right

1023
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: there in office, we have a training room, and then

1024
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: we also are gonna have my favorite party, which is

1025
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: a marketing studio, because as you know, marketing is the

1026
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,720
Speaker 1: number one way to grow any business. So my agents

1027
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,959
Speaker 1: are going to actually have the opportunity to come into

1028
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: the office, get photo shoots done, create content. They want

1029
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: to start a YouTube channel, they can do so right

1030
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: in office. If they want to do a podcast, they'll

1031
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: be able to do so in office. So we'll have

1032
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: a dressing room for them to change. And it's just

1033
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: gonna be a whole vibe. And so that's why I

1034
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 1: had to transition and move to a bigger space. Uh

1035
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: and then also more of a creative space. I'm gonna

1036
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: start calling you Hollywood, Holley Wood, Hollywood, come show call

1037
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: me the marketing studio, come on that. But I love

1038
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: that because first of all, you are your chief of

1039
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: Maation officer for the RAPS Next Corporation and partnership with

1040
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: my board Master Pete. Tell us about that. Yes, um,

1041
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: that has been a life changing experience for me to

1042
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: be a part of the RAPS Next organization. So shout

1043
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: out to Master Pete, to James Lindley who's the owner

1044
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: of Wrap Snacks as well as Wise Intelligent giving me

1045
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: this opportunity. They trusted me to not only partner with me,

1046
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 1: but to also help them with several different initiatives under

1047
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: their umbrella. So one of the things that I'm working

1048
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: on with them is actually the Buyer blocks UH Incubator,

1049
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: which is going to teach individuals how to purchase their

1050
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: very first property as well as an investment home. So

1051
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: it's it's an extremely beneficial program that I've been rolling

1052
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: out this year. Well, it's great, and I want to

1053
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: close talking about your your mentoring academy called a c

1054
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:33,479
Speaker 1: Owner CEO owner, which just entrepreneurs how to transition, because

1055
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: that's a problem people transitioning out of a one level

1056
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: to the next, or another job to the next, or

1057
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: being a for the hour week person and not even

1058
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: want to be an entrepreneur. Tell us about the c

1059
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: Owner Academy. So this c own Our Academy is something

1060
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: that's so near and hear to my heart. Is actually

1061
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: something that I've been wanting to do for over a

1062
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: year now, and the premise of the academy is to

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Speaker 1: teach aspiring and current entrepreneurs how to grow and scale

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Speaker 1: their business. I think that a lot of people want

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Speaker 1: to be CEOs, they want to own their own business.

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Speaker 1: But why is it that they don't think beyond that,

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Speaker 1: Because to me, by definition, if you look up you

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Speaker 1: google CEE owner, I mean CEO, then you're still an

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Speaker 1: employee of an organization, even if that means it's your organization,

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Speaker 1: So that doesn't mean freedom. That still means that you

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Speaker 1: have to pick up the phone when people call you.

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Speaker 1: You still can't leave and go on vacation without your laptop.

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Speaker 1: So my goal is to teach people to not just

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Speaker 1: stop there. Don't just say Okay, I have a CEO

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Speaker 1: title and now I've made it. Let's think about how

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Speaker 1: you actually retire as an owner, because in my space,

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00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: I would never be able to call you know, if

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00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,919
Speaker 1: you work for Kelly Williams, you can't call Gary Keller.

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Speaker 1: He's been ating to implement systems and automation that allow

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Speaker 1: him to make money without actually being present. And especially

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Speaker 1: in our culture, I think it's important that we stopped

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Speaker 1: working until sixty seventy eight, even if it's within our

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00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: own business, and really learn systems that are going to

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Speaker 1: allow us true freedom, because that's what I'm working so

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00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: hard for. The money is gonna come as a byproduct

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Speaker 1: of my hard work and the way that I treat people,

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Speaker 1: But freedom is gonna come by intentions, by systems and automation,

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Speaker 1: and those are the things that I teach in my

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00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: academy you know. The interesting thing about it, people always

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00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: look at me and my wife always say you you

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00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: you spend more time at your off you spend at home. Well,

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Speaker 1: I loved my home, but I also loved my office,

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00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: you know, And I think that you're what you're creating

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Speaker 1: at the new location. It's gonna be a place where

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Speaker 1: you got the kitchen. There's you want to go in

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Speaker 1: the refrigerator and get yourself. You want to make your

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00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: own breakfasts at the office, you can do that. You know,

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Speaker 1: you want to bake something. You're just creating a vibe

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Speaker 1: for yourself, and you're you're changing the rules because that

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Speaker 1: when I bought this built out and that was one

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Speaker 1: of the things I wanted a full kitchen in it.

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Speaker 1: I wanted a full kitchen. I come in, my staff know,

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Speaker 1: they got their own refrigerator. I re rebuilt out the

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Speaker 1: basements where they have their own the refrigerator, dishwasher, food

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Speaker 1: and all that stuff. So they come up my kitchen,

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Speaker 1: my refrigerator. We got problems because I told y'all don't

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Speaker 1: go in my refrigerator, not because I got so. So

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Speaker 1: make sure you get there refrigerator and your refrigerator, okay,

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Speaker 1: because you know everybody, I'm just telling you that. I'm

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Speaker 1: just telling right now in Hollywood. I'm just telling right now, Hollywood,

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01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: how you gotta be now. And then they'd invite you.

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Speaker 1: Have me on the computer. I want to come to

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01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: you with the world. You're gonna come back because I

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01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: like you. I like you. I want to invite because

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Speaker 1: because see, I always enjoyed this format that I've created

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Speaker 1: called money Making Conversation because I learned about people are educated.

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01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: I get educated about the process because I know a lot.

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Speaker 1: But like too many other people, I'm just going through

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Speaker 1: the motions. I'm going through the motions like by homes

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I know somebody guided me through purchasing this build.

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Speaker 1: I really don't know what I signed, but I got

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Speaker 1: the right lawyer that got the right person I've known

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Speaker 1: for many years who did the commercial loan from me

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Speaker 1: and found the building. So I was in good hands.

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Speaker 1: But there's a lot of people that are not in

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Speaker 1: good hands. And that's why I'm talking to you. I

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01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: feel you're one of those in good hands people. When

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Speaker 1: they come to you, there's no agenda. It's about business.

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Speaker 1: Is about getting the best deal for the for your client.

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Speaker 1: And the client being the person who wants to buy

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Speaker 1: the house and your future by the commercial building because

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Speaker 1: you're getting into that business. So but I also see

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01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: a dominant amount of people in the commercial side that

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Speaker 1: don't look like you. And that's where I want. That's

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Speaker 1: why I brought that up, because we out there dominate.

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Speaker 1: You're having homes and selling homes and stuff. But I'm

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Speaker 1: tell you something, you could have building million dollar building

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Speaker 1: for the million dollar billions. You know. That's that to

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01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 1: keep you busy for a couple of years with that

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Speaker 1: commission change changing. That is life changing, And that's the

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Speaker 1: route that I'm going because if you want to think

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Speaker 1: about it. But if you even with commercial leasing, this

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01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 1: is something that people don't know. When you lease a

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Speaker 1: commercial space for a client, you actually get paid what

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01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 1: they called first and four, So you get paid the

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01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: first month's rent and then you get four or five

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Speaker 1: percent of the least amount for the life of the

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Speaker 1: of the the lease. So that's a ten year least.

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Speaker 1: You're getting residuals for ten years based on your you know,

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Speaker 1: for your commission. And so I think that agents have

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Speaker 1: to really start to think about, like, Okay, do I

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01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: just want something real quick, or do I want some

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01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 1: life changing money? And that's why I'm pivoting more into

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Speaker 1: that space because I'm like, you know, we only have

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Speaker 1: one house that's the most expensive house on the market

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Speaker 1: right now, is worth fifteen point five million dollars on

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Speaker 1: the residential side. I mean that's a baby building on

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Speaker 1: the commercial side. So you really think about it, It's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: it may take me a year or two to get

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Speaker 1: a commission check for thirty forty million dollars, but so

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Speaker 1: what you know, we have to think bigger. And that's

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Speaker 1: some of the things that I'm exposing my team too.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I'm so grateful to have been selected

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Speaker 1: into this reprogram because I'm learning so much about commercial

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01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: real estate and it's actually geared tour putting more diversity

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Speaker 1: in the space. So it's a really really phenomenal opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Well you you know, you're you know, you're in the

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Speaker 1: right place and you know that in the right city,

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Speaker 1: black excellence doesn't does exhaled in this particular marketing. I

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Speaker 1: just wanted to bring on the show the Nie. I

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Speaker 1: heard a lot of great things about you, my boy

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Speaker 1: Cash with just screaming, screaming the blessings of Denise Wears.

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Speaker 1: He's a phenomenal person. You gotta put on your showers,

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01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: I gotta put on yourself. And but more important, but

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Speaker 1: what he didn't tell me that I was gonna be

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Speaker 1: meeting the Hollywood Then these Hollywood reason he didn't tell

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Speaker 1: me about that, I got. I gotta bringing Hollywood by

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Speaker 1: my crib over here so we could eat some food

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Speaker 1: up stairs and stuff like that. But thank you for

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Speaker 1: coming on money making conferences. You're fantastic. H We're definitely

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Speaker 1: gonna offline. I definitely want to connect with you. And

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Speaker 1: just just you know, I said, alright, my whole life,

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01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: I built this brandom mentor I brought this brand to

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Speaker 1: just have people in a position because I've been very

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Speaker 1: successful in so many lanes in my life, but more

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Speaker 1: importantly being able to share that success, that knowledge. I

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Speaker 1: don't want no checks. God is giving me the checks

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Speaker 1: I need and it's called relationship. So again, thank you

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Speaker 1: for coming on money making conversations. Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: I had such a blast. Thank you. If I could

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Speaker 1: be you and you could be me for just one hour,

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Speaker 1: if you could find a way to get inside each

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Speaker 1: other's mind, walcome in my shoes, wacome Ole in my shoes, shoes.

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Speaker 1: how it belonging begins with us dot org brought to

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Speaker 1: you by the ACT Council. Welcome Out and the Shoe.

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Speaker 1: enough people know about, and we're here to change that.

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Speaker 1: presented by adopt us Kids. Each episode brings you compelling,

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Speaker 1: real life adoption stories told by the families that lived them,

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Speaker 1: of Health, the Human Services Administration for Children and Families,

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Speaker 1: and the ACT Council. Look for your children's eyes to

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Speaker 1: world for them. You look and see a tree. They

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Speaker 1: see the rink of face of a wizard with arms

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Speaker 1: outstretched to the sky. They see treasuring pebbles. They see

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Speaker 1: a windy path that could lead to adventure and they

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Speaker 1: Forest Service and the Council. My next gist is Yourself Saloon.

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Speaker 1: He's an inspirational speaker and prison prison abolitionists who, at

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Speaker 1: age fifteen, was one of the five teenage bars wrongfully

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Speaker 1: convicted and sentenced to prison in the Central Park Jaga case.

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Speaker 1: In seven he left prison as an adult to a

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Speaker 1: world he didn't fully recognize, understood, or understand. In two

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Speaker 1: thousand two, the sentence for the Central Park five was overturned.

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Speaker 1: All five were exonerated for the crime they did not commit.

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Speaker 1: He's on the show to talk about his new book

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Speaker 1: Better Not Better, Living on Purpose in the pursuit of

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Speaker 1: racial justice. It is the first time that wanted a

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Speaker 1: new exonerated or the now exonerated five is telling their

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Speaker 1: individuals story in his own works, Yourself Rights. His narrative

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Speaker 1: growing up black and central, all of them and in

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Speaker 1: the eighties being raised by a strong, fierce mother and grandmother,

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Speaker 1: his years of incarceration, his re entry into the world,

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Speaker 1: and of course exoneration. Please welcome to money making conversation.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna call him correctly like his grandmother called him,

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Speaker 1: master yourself. Salon, how you doing, sir, show? I think

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Speaker 1: you for having this is a great moment, great opportunity

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Speaker 1: to really talk to the power and retialized story for

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Speaker 1: what it's really for, right to shine light in the

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Speaker 1: dcness and world. Absolutely, and uh and I were talking

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Speaker 1: off air, but let's bring everything on there. Like I

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Speaker 1: moved to New York. I wasn't living in New York

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Speaker 1: between eight and nineteen, and I went up there to

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Speaker 1: pursue my comedy career. Felt I was gonna be the

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Speaker 1: next Eddie Murphy, you know, Richard Pryor, he was the legend.

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Speaker 1: I knew I couldn't be the next Richard Pryor, but Murfer,

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Speaker 1: I thought I could get to him, and I would.

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Speaker 1: So I lived that life, you know. And if you

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Speaker 1: was in downtown Manhattan, you could not catch a cab.

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Speaker 1: They would not stop and give you a cab for

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Speaker 1: you trying to go to Hall. It was just ridiculous

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Speaker 1: how blacks were being treated at that time and being uh,

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Speaker 1: second class citizens and in the city. And so I

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Speaker 1: was there living in the city. I was living at

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Speaker 1: eighty six and first was just York Town right there.

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Speaker 1: So I was living in a little you can call

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Speaker 1: it a one bear room, you said, But there wasn't

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Speaker 1: no one bar room. There's a room. It was a room, brother,

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Speaker 1: it was a room. But it CAUs like eight hundred dollars. Well,

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Speaker 1: not in the rest of the country, right, examples of

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Speaker 1: what one brooms are really one room. Right. I know

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Speaker 1: exactly what you mean when you're saying New York City.

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Speaker 1: You know I'm living in Atlanta now and any like

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Speaker 1: if you look at my house, my house in New

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Speaker 1: York will be over a million dollars five from my

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Speaker 1: house in Atlanta. Absolutely, well, I live in Atlanta. We

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Speaker 1: have to connect. So I didn't know you were down

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Speaker 1: in definitely got to connect. Bring you by my office

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Speaker 1: and sit down. Because I read the book Man Better

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Speaker 1: not Bitter, And based on what happened to you at

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Speaker 1: such a young age, one would think this would be

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Speaker 1: a book about anger by hate, a book about hobb

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01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 1: and done wrong. It's a book about motivation, a book

1272
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: about slice of life, telling your story to people were

1273
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 1: important in your life. People were important your life when

1274
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 1: you're incarcerated. But also it's a celebration of overcoming the odds.

1275
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 1: Talk to us. You know what, I what I really

1276
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 1: want to expose and better not better my memoir is

1277
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 1: I want folks to know that when you fall in life,

1278
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:35,719
Speaker 1: and it's not a matter of if you fall, because

1279
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 1: my good friend Let's Brown always reminded me, it's about

1280
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 1: when you fall, try to land your back and leanding

1281
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 1: on your back is about trying to find a good

1282
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 1: trying to find the blessings and everything right looking at

1283
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:50,679
Speaker 1: the experience that not necessarily seeing to yourself, Oh my goodness,

1284
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 1: this is terrible, but looking at the experience of understanding

1285
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 1: that God is making sure that you become a survival. Right.

1286
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 1: And so I looked at my story and I heard

1287
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 1: the words of Dr Maya Angelo and my angel. You know.

1288
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 1: Dr Na Angelo said something so powerful. She said, you

1289
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 1: should be angry, but you must not be bitter. She said,

1290
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,560
Speaker 1: bitterness is like a cancer eats upon the host. It

1291
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 1: doesn't do anything to the object of this displeasure. Then

1292
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: she teaches us the alchemy. She said, use that anger.

1293
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:24,759
Speaker 1: You're dancing, you watch it, you voted, you do everything

1294
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 1: about it. She said and then she said, you're talking.

1295
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 1: Never stopped talking. I found that black men rarely get

1296
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 1: the opportunity to really talk about the experiences that are

1297
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 1: plaguing us, especially in America. But when we do get

1298
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 1: that opportunity, it becomes so transformed intive, it's therapeutic, it's

1299
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 1: it's a it's a beautiful thing. And you can talk

1300
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 1: about these experiences to get them off the chest. And

1301
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 1: then when you can look at it from a different anger,

1302
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,640
Speaker 1: you get the opportunity you can see the hand of

1303
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 1: God in the You know, they're important, the important, The

1304
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 1: important part of that this conversation that we're having is

1305
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 1: your faith, because it drove you to a point to

1306
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 1: uh a sense of security, a safe zone, and and

1307
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 1: and being thrown into an environment that you knew you

1308
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 1: were innocent, um you knew it would changed even when

1309
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,719
Speaker 1: you got out, it would change the way your perception

1310
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: of opportunities in their life. At what point did it

1311
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 1: start to come together that, hey man, this is my life.

1312
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 1: And you started building this support system in the prison

1313
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 1: because you have a support system outside your sister, your mom,

1314
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 1: your grandmother that was strong, but inside you also have

1315
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 1: to build a support system. Tell us about that. Yeah,

1316
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 1: you know the beautif thing about being insulated in the fire, right,

1317
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 1: And I call it that I saved that way, because

1318
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like the system created this this condition,

1319
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 1: and then they created they said, we're gonna put him

1320
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 1: in the fire. This situation that we're gonna put the

1321
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 1: five of them in is going to be so terrible,

1322
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 1: so difficult. They will never be able to escape. And

1323
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 1: if they happen to miraculous miraculously survived, they will never

1324
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 1: be able to be successful in life. And a beautiful thing,

1325
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: like I said, is that being in that fire. I

1326
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,639
Speaker 1: remember reading a poem and the poem said prison life

1327
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 1: in many ways to be likened to them, if the

1328
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 1: life inside becomes still, the wound becomes the tomb. And

1329
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 1: so this this idea that you do not want to

1330
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 1: die physically, mentally or spiritually in the womb of amount. Right,

1331
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 1: many people go in and they physically die in that room.

1332
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 1: They come out alive, but they avoid any life. And

1333
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 1: I think that when I looked at my situation, I said, man, well,

1334
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 1: what can I do? How can I talk two people

1335
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 1: to let them know that I missed? And what I

1336
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 1: found out is that me telling people that I'm innocent.

1337
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:52,639
Speaker 1: The officers said to themselves, this guy is not supposed

1338
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 1: to be I mean the officers, the inmates of course

1339
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 1: as well, but that power of being able to have

1340
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 1: them see me for the first time as opposed to

1341
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 1: seeing what the system wanted to be, wanted to define

1342
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: me as they said, no, this guy is not who

1343
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 1: the system the same year is he started, you know,

1344
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 1: And and it really allowed us to become modern day

1345
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 1: shot druck in the vigna, you know. And I think

1346
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 1: that that's one of the hours of story, um that

1347
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 1: I'm telling you in this particular book and utilizing what

1348
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 1: I understand about what happened to me. Well, you know,

1349
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 1: one thing you did lose going to prison was your

1350
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 1: sense of style, you know, your sense of you know,

1351
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 1: the shoes, you know, the tie, the suit. You know

1352
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You said, I'm looking at you smiling,

1353
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 1: not because you know you know what I'm talking about

1354
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 1: coming on my show. No tie on every every picture

1355
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 1: I see this brother in he wearing shoes I wear.

1356
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 1: You know, I was told, man, I'm looking at the funk.

1357
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 1: I said, look at them. Two tones right there on

1358
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 1: two tones right there. Every picture you take with the

1359
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 1: exonerated five. He the only one got to suit on.

1360
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 1: He's he's he's the class, he's the appear to be

1361
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 1: of excellence. He articulated got's degree. Why I was in college,

1362
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 1: took advantage of the system. So let's talk about this

1363
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 1: style that you are, that you are, that you are

1364
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 1: that resonates your personality. Why is that important? Yeah? So

1365
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 1: I think I think it's important because you know, it

1366
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with, um, what other people see.

1367
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 1: It has everything to do with what you see when

1368
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 1: you look at yourself in the mirror. Right, people say

1369
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 1: all the time how you clean up nights? And I'm

1370
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 1: not talking about me, but I'm talking about any one

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01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 1: of us who chooses to We find ourselves, right. We

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01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 1: put a suit and we put a tie on. Um,

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01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 1: we we we clean our hair up, we clean our

1374
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 1: face up. You know, whatever it is that we do,

1375
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 1: we look at ourselves first of all. We other people

1376
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: look at us and see how you clean up nice?

1377
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 1: But what happens is the most powerful thing when you

1378
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 1: look in the mirror at your own self. I often

1379
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 1: think about my circumstances and say to myself, thank God,

1380
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 1: I don't look like what I've right. Most people look

1381
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 1: at me and they say, no, this guy had he

1382
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:05,600
Speaker 1: could have never gone to prison. He doesn't sound like

1383
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 1: a person with prison. He doesn't look like or act life.

1384
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 1: Nothing about him says prison. M But I think that

1385
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 1: that's the beauty of God. God has allowed me to

1386
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 1: be a shining example of what could be possible for

1387
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 1: all of us. Right, we can reject, literally throw back

1388
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 1: the definition of life that they want to give us,

1389
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 1: and know that we were born on purpose and with

1390
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 1: the purpose, as opposed to being relegated to the modern

1391
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 1: big deals of America. Right, that's what they want for

1392
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:40,799
Speaker 1: us to believe. So so many many of the stories

1393
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 1: that I've heard have been stories where people have said, no,

1394
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 1: we are supposed to be dead or in jail before

1395
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 1: we reached the age of twenty one, and many of

1396
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 1: us played into that false narrative. And I'm gonna say

1397
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:56,720
Speaker 1: false narrative again because it absolutely is. When you think

1398
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:59,600
Speaker 1: about the grand, miraculous thing that happens to all of us,

1399
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: our mothers and fathers get together, we become one of

1400
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:06,640
Speaker 1: over four hundred million options, race into the egg, and

1401
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 1: we are chosen to me. Look at the odds. That

1402
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 1: means that we are born on purpose. And if we're

1403
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 1: born on purpose, we have a purpose. And so the

1404
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 1: psycho social reality of being able to really understand that

1405
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 1: the system, the system, they tell you you're not worth nothing.

1406
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 1: And if you believe, if you believe, you're gonna move

1407
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 1: throughout your life but your mistakes. But once you believe

1408
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 1: that you're worth everything, once you believe that you are

1409
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 1: the future mover and Sha go up tomorrow, you will

1410
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 1: begin to move throughout your life with a different type

1411
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 1: of purpose. And that's what this book is all about.

1412
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:45,560
Speaker 1: It's about me understanding what happened to me, me understanding

1413
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 1: that I had to remember what my mother told me

1414
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 1: the very last instruction she gave me. She said, they

1415
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 1: need you to participate, and whatever it is that they're

1416
01:15:54,920 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 1: trying to do, not participate, refuse And so how does

1417
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:03,719
Speaker 1: that show up? It shows up by you were using

1418
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 1: to accept the box that they want to put you.

1419
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 1: You need to be that NAT. I forget the name

1420
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,600
Speaker 1: of the the study that they've done, but there's a

1421
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 1: study where they put a net, you know, a container,

1422
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,680
Speaker 1: and the NAT only jumped so high, but then that

1423
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 1: can jump ten times higher than that. M hm. That

1424
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 1: be loves only that they can jump that high, and

1425
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 1: then Na teaches the children of the nat that can

1426
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 1: only jump that high. Imagine if we teach people that

1427
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 1: we can uh, I mean we see this in sports, right.

1428
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 1: We see Michael j Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, any

1429
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,679
Speaker 1: of the great shot. Right. We see them doing sacred

1430
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 1: geometry on the core. It looks magnificent. But when we

1431
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 1: when we understand what we're looking at, we know that

1432
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 1: that is us as a people. That's what it is. Wow.

1433
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 1: You know when I'm talking to Usef Salon, Master, Usef

1434
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 1: Salon and your mother your grandmother, Well, well always say

1435
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 1: that to you, and you say, and your chapter you're

1436
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 1: talking about? A name is important. My name is Rushan McDonald.

1437
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 1: I thoroughly believe that if my name is Ricky McDonald,

1438
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 1: I would be a different person. My name's Rashwan. I've

1439
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 1: always been treated different. I've always been noted. You know,

1440
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 1: people can't spell it or have to I have to

1441
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 1: correct them, or they learn how to spell it and

1442
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,600
Speaker 1: they respect me or understand my brand. Talk about the

1443
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 1: why are your grandmother who passed away? I think correct?

1444
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 1: And uh, why was master important to her? In front

1445
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 1: of your name. I think she was doing which was

1446
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 1: so important and really so impactful, but that she needed

1447
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 1: for one thing she needed to do was to make

1448
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 1: sure that the people who are holding me capital needed

1449
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 1: to know who they had. I always thought by male.

1450
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 1: And I'm saying that because for those who don't know,

1451
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 1: when you write to a person in prison, that letter

1452
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 1: is fondle is read by the prison officials before it

1453
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 1: gets to the person that is supposed to get to.

1454
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 1: I always got my male. So imagine the officer getting

1455
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 1: the mail and saying, this is to master you, SEPs

1456
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 1: all reason sends it off. The content of the letter

1457
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 1: is what is important, over and above the title. It's

1458
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 1: addressed to me because the title is telling me to

1459
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 1: stricken ut back. The title is telling me to remember,

1460
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 1: not just remember who I am, but remember in a

1461
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 1: sense called for a kind of moment member who you

1462
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 1: are is attached to the people you come from. Even

1463
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: though Dr James Baldwin said to be African American is

1464
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 1: to be African without memory, in American without privilege, and

1465
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 1: so we experienced this right. Many of us know we're

1466
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 1: not supposed to be under these kinds of conditions, but

1467
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 1: imagine when when you are told that by one of

1468
01:18:55,080 --> 01:19:00,560
Speaker 1: your elders who knows the truth right, he's seeing you messages,

1469
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 1: She's sending you seeds. She's allowing those seeds to blossom

1470
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 1: and bloom in this dark space called the womb of America,

1471
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,720
Speaker 1: so that you can metamorphosize into the butterfly that you

1472
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 1: need to be. And it's so important because if you

1473
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 1: if somebody calls you out of your name, usually you

1474
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 1: get upset until you begin to accept it. Right. And

1475
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 1: so the cutter can say, knowing that he's a prence,

1476
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 1: knowing who he is and who's he is and where

1477
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 1: he comes from, being told you know your name is

1478
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 1: now too, he fights tooth and nail until miraculously we

1479
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Speaker 1: see something, and we don't see it until later. He

1480
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:42,599
Speaker 1: buries the truth inside of self, even though we accept

1481
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 1: outward believe what they are saying, But inwardly he never

1482
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 1: accepts that his names. He knows who is, he knows

1483
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 1: he's a press, he knows that his people are looking

1484
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:56,640
Speaker 1: for He was kidnapped, just like people get kidnapped in

1485
01:19:56,720 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 1: a memory. Now today, as part of the great Transatlantic

1486
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:04,839
Speaker 1: slave true many of us are importunately had that reality

1487
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 1: keeped upon us, and so we don't know where we

1488
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 1: came from, we don't know who we are. We actually

1489
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,799
Speaker 1: begin to hate ourselves and everything we have been told

1490
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,560
Speaker 1: about us, because what as we looked out of the

1491
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:20,799
Speaker 1: window of life, we see others looking in the mirror.

1492
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 1: Every advertised with white skin, everything is talked about the

1493
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 1: white skin, and so we live a dark skin. And

1494
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:32,680
Speaker 1: we said we must be cursed. We don't get the

1495
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 1: opportunity to understand that the absolute antithesis is the truth

1496
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 1: that we are not cursed, but we are blessed and

1497
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 1: highly favored. How do we know that, because as we

1498
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:48,480
Speaker 1: are born out of our mother's womb, we are automatically

1499
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:54,760
Speaker 1: born on the right side of everything, because we look

1500
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 1: at us and judge us by the color of our skin,

1501
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 1: not the content of our cap There, you're absolutely correct.

1502
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:02,599
Speaker 1: You know, when you're in the book you was talking

1503
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 1: about sixteen years old, you're standing in the hallway and

1504
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 1: they said that that they have a verdict, and you

1505
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 1: went back into the courtroom and it was announced guilty,

1506
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 1: and they sent you to Rikers. And why is Rikers

1507
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 1: such a horrible prison? Let me ask you that question first.

1508
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 1: You know, Rikers is there's so many facets. I think

1509
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:27,720
Speaker 1: that makes Rikers one of the most horrible places on

1510
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 1: But I think part of it is because you have

1511
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 1: the proximity of people being able to go right to

1512
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:38,560
Speaker 1: or talk right to, or be connected right to the

1513
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 1: people who they want were when we come home from prison.

1514
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 1: One of the most transformative things a person can do

1515
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 1: is to lead the communities that they can. And I'm

1516
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 1: not saying that because I want you to to to

1517
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 1: take away your your your your your value. Right. If

1518
01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:00,680
Speaker 1: you know, like a lot of people in their entertainment industry,

1519
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 1: they happen to leave because they know that they have

1520
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 1: to insulate themselves. Right. Why do they have to insulate themselves?

1521
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 1: Because America has created poverty and pushed it upon the

1522
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 1: people in the margins of life, and the people in

1523
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:18,759
Speaker 1: the margins of life are now responding in a way

1524
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 1: where we call it the struggle or the survival mentality.

1525
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 1: What happens when you struggle, what happens when you have

1526
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 1: to survive and that's the only thing that you can do,

1527
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 1: you do anything and so on. Prison a place like

1528
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 1: Rikaziland right as Island, is a place where people sometimes

1529
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 1: have not yet been convicted of the crimes that they

1530
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 1: have so called committed. That's a so called because we

1531
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 1: find out that there's so many people. You look at

1532
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 1: the colored brothers of the world who are not supposed

1533
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 1: to be there right right, and then you have other

1534
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 1: people who are actually criminals who have gotten caught, but

1535
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:58,559
Speaker 1: they are still doing criminal things. They are running the jails.

1536
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 1: Everybody has this false narrative when they see people show

1537
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 1: photos of the prisons that they're in. They looked strong

1538
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,680
Speaker 1: and buff and they posed and and everything like that

1539
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 1: that I never forget hearing a conversation that Ross Baraka

1540
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 1: had put on his albums and he said, nobody talks

1541
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 1: about the grown men. Client I was. I was in

1542
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 1: Clinton with two PS. I think Danna more with two PS.

1543
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 1: And I remember hearing him say on the gate, that's

1544
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 1: something that people in the officers say to the inmates.

1545
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 1: He said, you're on the gate, and everybody got on

1546
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 1: the gate and he said, listen, man, I'm just trying

1547
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 1: to do my bed, just like y'all. Everybody was sending

1548
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 1: him pieces of the magazines that they would ripped out

1549
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 1: and sent to him and say, hey, can you sign

1550
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 1: that sign this to my family, my daughter, my friends.

1551
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:48,560
Speaker 1: I just want to let them know that I'm in

1552
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 1: here with you, you know. And when you look at prison,

1553
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 1: prison has a way of turning people into criminals, even

1554
01:23:56,160 --> 01:24:00,640
Speaker 1: if you were not mhm right, even why why do

1555
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 1: I say that? I say that because it is the

1556
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 1: absolute worst place that you can go. Once you've gone there,

1557
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 1: you're gone. You know that that's the worst that can

1558
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 1: happen outside of them. And so when you're in a struggle, right,

1559
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 1: you have to understand that in the struggle, the struggle

1560
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 1: is not about physicality. It's not about war in terms

1561
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 1: of fighting in terms of beating someone. Right, war its

1562
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 1: greatest tool is the mental to get you to accept defeat.

1563
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 1: We know. The thing about it is that I had

1564
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 1: a younger brother. He went to prison, and I went

1565
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 1: to visit him in prison, and you know, like you said,

1566
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't. I was in tears watching him,

1567
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 1: and he was saying, I can't cry, I gotta stay hard,

1568
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 1: and that false narrative. And then he said he had

1569
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,600
Speaker 1: to connect with some certain people in the prison so

1570
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 1: he can stay safe. He had to get into or

1571
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 1: a click or run so he can be able to

1572
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 1: have somebody to have his back. And then you talk

1573
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 1: about it, as you say, when your time becomes short,

1574
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 1: people can do things to make your time extend or

1575
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 1: attempt to kill you. So there's a mindset that operates

1576
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:17,559
Speaker 1: in prison. I'm just taking knowledge from your book. Your

1577
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 1: book is amazing, and the book is called better not Better,

1578
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 1: Living on the Purpose, Living on the Purpose in the

1579
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 1: pursuit of racial justice, and the story you take away,

1580
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 1: I'm looking at a humble man, looking at the educated man,

1581
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:31,800
Speaker 1: and you're right, you don't fit the example of somebody

1582
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 1: who's been wronged, who's been in prison, and then actually

1583
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:40,480
Speaker 1: taking away some really key developmental years. You know, fifteen

1584
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 1: to eighteen is when you really start learning about responsibility,

1585
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 1: learning about being a man, learned about trying to go

1586
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 1: to college, learning about trying to trying to if I'm

1587
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 1: gonna have a wife in my life. You was in

1588
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 1: jail during that period, and so what allowed you to

1589
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 1: be able to I know, your your faith, I know

1590
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 1: you're the Muslim community was there for you, your your

1591
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 1: your parents were there, but you have to be there

1592
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 1: for yourself. How did you, as a mature young man,

1593
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 1: be there for yourself? So I think I think a

1594
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 1: lot of that was when you asked me about the name, right,

1595
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 1: what do you respond to? I was told this, but

1596
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 1: I didn't yet really truly know this, And what I

1597
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 1: mean by it is that I was told that in

1598
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 1: the community where I came from, my parents had to

1599
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 1: observe me for seven days. They knew just like African

1600
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 1: communities know that the child that is born is actually

1601
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 1: a gift from the creator. But in the Islamic community,

1602
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 1: what happens is that you have to observe the child

1603
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 1: to figure out who this is so that you can

1604
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 1: need it. You don't want to name it Hennessy. And

1605
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything bad about anyone who names their

1606
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:51,680
Speaker 1: child Henessy, but I want you to understand that when

1607
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 1: you give a person a name of person I name,

1608
01:26:56,680 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 1: that defines who they are. And so my parents named

1609
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 1: me us. I never knew what use have meant. My

1610
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 1: middle name is Injuries, my other middle name is father,

1611
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 1: and my last name is Sala. Oftentimes people will say, hey,

1612
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 1: what's your name, and I would say use. Sometimes they

1613
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:17,759
Speaker 1: would call me Joseph, and I got upset because Joseph

1614
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 1: won't sound nothing like you. So I got the prisoner

1615
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 1: I found out in the Bible there was a young

1616
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:27,720
Speaker 1: man named Usa in the Bible. And I found out

1617
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 1: in the Koran there's a young man named Joseph in

1618
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 1: the Koran. And I'm mixing it up, of course, because

1619
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 1: I found out the Arabic equivalent to the word use

1620
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 1: of is Joseph in English, but the definition was never there.

1621
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 1: Reading books about baby names, I found out that use

1622
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 1: of means God will increase that Injurius means the teacher

1623
01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 1: for otherly with justice and Salami's peace. My parents named

1624
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:59,919
Speaker 1: me seven days after I was born. God will increase

1625
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 1: the teacher with justice and peace. When you are looking

1626
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 1: for purpose, quite often times it's not until later in

1627
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 1: our lives we try to say to ourselves, what am

1628
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 1: I supposed to be doing? What's my purpose in life?

1629
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:21,679
Speaker 1: But imagine finding purpose in the value the value of despair,

1630
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 1: you know. Dr King said, when you find your purpose

1631
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 1: in life, do it as if God himself called you

1632
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 1: to do it at this very month. And he gave

1633
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 1: us this beautiful example, not of the greatest purpose, but

1634
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:38,639
Speaker 1: of what purpose still is? He said, If your purpose

1635
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 1: in life is to become a street speet, he said,

1636
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:45,560
Speaker 1: sweep the streets like Michael Langelo painted pictures, sweep the

1637
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 1: streets like they told when composed music like Leal Tom

1638
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:53,240
Speaker 1: Price saying before the opera. Imagine that kind of individual

1639
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 1: turning up their life in dark spaces. Imagine that person

1640
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:03,520
Speaker 1: raising their vibrations. And collectively we can always our workers. Collectively,

1641
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 1: we can altern up our life. And I think that

1642
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 1: when I looked at, you know, being associated right in prison,

1643
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:14,719
Speaker 1: it wasn't that I was just defining myself as Muslim,

1644
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 1: but I was born must but now I was studying.

1645
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:22,560
Speaker 1: Anytime you have a people tell you what something is.

1646
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:24,439
Speaker 1: Often times you say if I don't want to be

1647
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 1: that you hear the word Muslim, and you say, those

1648
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 1: are terrorists. I don't remember telling about my daughters once

1649
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 1: I said, listen, if you know, was very busy. If

1650
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:36,639
Speaker 1: I'm running towards a plane and I got to connect

1651
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 1: to other planes and all of this stuff, imagine this scenario,

1652
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 1: money to a plane and I get to the plane,

1653
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 1: about the clothes that doing. I get just in the

1654
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 1: mid at the time, and wow, so really just about

1655
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 1: the closest doing you've made it. And I said, wow, God,

1656
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 1: it's the greatest. I get on the plane, I see

1657
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:56,679
Speaker 1: somebody in the first class. They had yet open their water.

1658
01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 1: I grabbed their water, say said okay, They said yeah.

1659
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:02,040
Speaker 1: I say thank you, I open the water. Drink of water.

1660
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:08,439
Speaker 1: Says wow, Gods degrees home scenario. Same scenario. Remind you

1661
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 1: there are Christians in Arabia. Same scenario. They speak Arabic,

1662
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 1: they say Allah for God. Christians. Same scenario. I'm running

1663
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 1: to the plane. I keep it saying, wow, sir, you

1664
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 1: chest made me. We were just about to close the door.

1665
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:34,719
Speaker 1: I say, alaw, who I thought, I just missed my plant.

1666
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:40,080
Speaker 1: But you know, you know what happens. And I'm saying

1667
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 1: that the definitions right as soon as people understand. Oh,

1668
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 1: they're just saying God, there's a lot who I. For me,

1669
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:53,799
Speaker 1: it means God is the greatest or God is greater

1670
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 1: than anything. So when you hear the call to prayer,

1671
01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 1: which says a lot who I thought, say yourself, I'm

1672
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 1: supposed to stop everything and turned to God and thankful.

1673
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 1: That's absolutely true. But I have to give. When you're thankful,

1674
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:17,240
Speaker 1: God war some beautiful process. We know. The thing about

1675
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:19,080
Speaker 1: it is that because I want to wrap up, but

1676
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 1: I want to say a few things that I want

1677
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 1: you to respond to it. You know it's incarcerated. Uh

1678
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 1: then uh, Donald Trump to got an add eighty five

1679
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:31,880
Speaker 1: dollars and ads calling you guys everything, every every bad

1680
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:33,400
Speaker 1: name he could say that he could put it in

1681
01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 1: the newspaper. He then become our president, so we know

1682
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 1: the values he had for men of color. Inten seven,

1683
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 1: you walked out of prison, um spend time in prison

1684
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:46,760
Speaker 1: for a crime he didn't do, two thousand two years exonerated,

1685
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 1: Then you received the settlement and then um Aba Duvenat,

1686
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:53,960
Speaker 1: I think what Ava Duvena did you guys was like

1687
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:59,040
Speaker 1: for me visual and a global perspective. Really freed you guys,

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Speaker 1: I said, free you guys from an immediate standpoint, in

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Speaker 1: a and a standpoint. You know, the court can say

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Speaker 1: you're free, but what she did was set you all free.

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Speaker 1: And that's important to know. And now with that freedom

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Speaker 1: that you now have the intellect that you gained being

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Speaker 1: you didn't commit, which we know is never enough because

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Speaker 1: those years to value years. What is the purpose? What

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Speaker 1: is your goal? Because you talked about purpose. As we

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Speaker 1: close out this interview. What is your purpose? Master yourself?

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Speaker 1: Sala I think my greatest purpose is to fall people

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Speaker 1: to God. The greatest purpose is to utilize my story

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Speaker 1: and tell people. Like I've always said in more recent

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Speaker 1: times that the Center Park Jogy case is not what

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Speaker 1: you think it is. It's actually a love story between

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Speaker 1: God and the people Center Park Jogragh case. The case

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Speaker 1: is a case where God has used it in place

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Speaker 1: the whole system on trial in order to produce some miracles.

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Speaker 1: A lot of times. It's a story of how people

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Speaker 1: good we will see. And it's the story of a

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Speaker 1: phoenix from the ashes because as they built the buyer

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Speaker 1: to consume us, they forgot that God is the owner

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Speaker 1: of the action. If we believe again and we're thankful

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Speaker 1: and we say to ourselves, help me, right when you

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Speaker 1: That's so beautiful. Like I said, it's it's one of

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Speaker 1: those things that it's not until you are tested that

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Speaker 1: you can really say I got to testify, because you

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Speaker 1: can't testify unless you've been tested. You know, I was

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Speaker 1: listening to my my inspiration, e T. And he said

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Speaker 1: something to the fact to said, you know, everybody wants

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Speaker 1: the more pressure that's added to create a diamond out

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Speaker 1: one of those things that you say to yourself, Wow,

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Speaker 1: this is one of the most rarest things for the planet.

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Speaker 1: And I think that what we need to understand is

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Speaker 1: that all of us are dying. We're just in the

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Speaker 1: rock that we're still did and we see ourselves. Is

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Speaker 1: you are a great, my friend again, better that bitter.

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Speaker 1: Living on purpose in the pursuit of racial justice. Master

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Speaker 1: didn't say master right there on the book, but it

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Speaker 1: should say that you should say humble, you should say

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Speaker 1: over let's just say overcoming to odds. Chiefs say, it's

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Speaker 1: just say so many blessings, a blessed man, It's just

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Speaker 1: with your host, Rashan McDonald. My next guest is Brendan Thompson.

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Speaker 1: He is a native Houstonian. You know I got it,

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Speaker 1: so you know I love him already because I'm from

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Speaker 1: Houston Texts. He graduated from Preview and m that's an

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Speaker 1: of a of a of a HBCU that's privy and

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Speaker 1: m used to degree was an electrical engineering. My degree

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01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:46,479
Speaker 1: was from Universe Houston and mathematics. We talked about in

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Speaker 1: the minute. While he was able to finish through with

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01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:51,919
Speaker 1: this engine and degree, I couldn't make it past physics.

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Speaker 1: He found a trade House, a company that partnered with

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Speaker 1: an educational platform to be to teach people how to

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Speaker 1: has grown to eighty thousand active members. In fact, the

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Speaker 1: co founders and Brendon are actively engaging daily. They help

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Speaker 1: view and m thinking about my boy Will Packer, who's

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Speaker 1: also electrical engineer. Brendon Thompson. How are you doing, sir?

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Speaker 1: You don't how you doing? Sign well? First of all,

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Speaker 1: you know what part of used to you from? I

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Speaker 1: gotta break it down because I'm a fifth ward boar.

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Speaker 1: What what part of used? Do? You? Grew up in

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Speaker 1: City Texas? You know the same most cities see right

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Speaker 1: there right then? See I'm Houston, Texas. You know, eve

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Speaker 1: me saying mo, I said fear forlid? You know, all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden I asked him, say were you oh?

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Speaker 1: Most city? But it so you're gonna start at change.

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Speaker 1: But that's a great area I grew up. I knew

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Speaker 1: a fair familiar with that area of the kind of

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Speaker 1: grew up before being counted in Houston, Texas. And so

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Speaker 1: would you been with what what has inspired you? You

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Speaker 1: went to HBC you school, which is previewing them, which

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Speaker 1: is like forty five minutes outside of Houston, Texas. You

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Speaker 1: have Texas Southern right there in Houston, Texas. Down the

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Speaker 1: road you got Southern University up the road. You got

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Speaker 1: grambling why privew A and m so we Shawn, if

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Speaker 1: I could just give you a little backstory on, you know,

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01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:29,200
Speaker 1: my college journey. I started off at Hampton University, to

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Speaker 1: be honest with you, start off at Hampton University in Hampton, Virginia.

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Speaker 1: And for those of you that know about Hampton, it's

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Speaker 1: a private school HBCU as well, but very very expensive.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I couldn't you know, continue because of

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Speaker 1: financial roles. So I decided to transfer. And when I

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Speaker 1: was looking at schools to transfer to in Texas, you know,

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Speaker 1: I looked at you of h, I looked at t

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Speaker 1: s U, and I also was looking at prevew You

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Speaker 1: know you have ah you know, not to say anything.

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Speaker 1: Ain't bad about the school, but I just heard that

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Speaker 1: you would get swallowed up. You would just be like

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Speaker 1: another number. It wouldn't give you that same HBU HBCU

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Speaker 1: feel t SU didn't have my my degree. They had

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Speaker 1: electronic engineer, but they didn't have electrical engineer. Prav you

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Speaker 1: happened to be the only school within that Houston area

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01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:23,280
Speaker 1: that that accepted the bulk of my transfer credit. So

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Speaker 1: I went ahead and I became the panther rolled up

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Speaker 1: that rolled down to the baby. Don't from panthers up there.

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Speaker 1: Now it's the cool thing about it. Like a good

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Speaker 1: friend of my Lonny Love, she graduated from PREV and

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Speaker 1: m she's blending Love. She's the one of the co

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Speaker 1: host of the talk show The Real and she graduated

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Speaker 1: electrical engineering. So they now prayer of view has been known.

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01:41:44,120 --> 01:41:45,600
Speaker 1: When I gradu from high school, a lot of my

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Speaker 1: friends went down to preview and have I'm living very

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Speaker 1: successful lives. But you were talking about the culture. Like

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Speaker 1: I graduated from University Houston. You can't get into the

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Speaker 1: numbers game. Forty thousand students walking around on that campus.

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Speaker 1: And when I would, I was there. They didn't have

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Speaker 1: that college life. It is much more of a commuter school.

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Speaker 1: And so my executive producer of Money Making Conversation, she's

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Speaker 1: a Hampton grad So when you said happened though, she

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Speaker 1: all are dancing in the studio throwing our hands up

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01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:13,920
Speaker 1: in there and so all right, so I got a

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Speaker 1: lot of pride. And then my boy, Will Packer, he

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01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:22,479
Speaker 1: graduated with electrical engineering degree from FAM. You now you

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01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:25,160
Speaker 1: got electrical engineering degree, but you're not doing as they

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Speaker 1: say electrical engineering, So tell me about that transition. So

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Speaker 1: when I transferred to to PV, you know, I went

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Speaker 1: ahead and finished off and I got my degree in

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Speaker 1: electrical engineering, as you mentioned. And before I even walked

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Speaker 1: across the state, the stadiums are already had an offer

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Speaker 1: to the Bone Company. So the Boning Company offered me

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Speaker 1: a full time position where I started my journey in

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Speaker 1: Long Beach, California. So I hadn't, you know, um ever

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Speaker 1: been to California before in my life, and it was

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Speaker 1: a dream of mine to go and lived there. But

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Speaker 1: you know, I didn't know exactly how I was gonna

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Speaker 1: get there, so Long Behold. You know, Boning offered me

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Speaker 1: a full time positions, like maybe a month or two

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Speaker 1: after I graduated from p V, I moved out to

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Speaker 1: Long Beach started my journey, and I'll be real with you, Rashawn.

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Speaker 1: You know, it didn't take me too long to figure

1895
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:18,720
Speaker 1: out that corporate America just wasn't fit for me. Right.

1896
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:20,639
Speaker 1: I found I found that I was like a shark

1897
01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 1: in a swimming pool. I was the youngest blackest person

1898
01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:26,840
Speaker 1: on my team and every team I was on, and

1899
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:30,280
Speaker 1: I started to feel like, you know, my my gifts

1900
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:33,400
Speaker 1: and talents just weren't being put to good use. Um.

1901
01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:36,320
Speaker 1: You know, maybe I wasn't the smartest in the company,

1902
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:40,200
Speaker 1: but I had the most I feel like uh business

1903
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:42,640
Speaker 1: stavvy I was. I was more of a person that

1904
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:46,200
Speaker 1: can solve problems. Maybe not you know, mathematical, I could,

1905
01:43:46,640 --> 01:43:49,960
Speaker 1: but my best you know strengths were you know, business.

1906
01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:51,800
Speaker 1: And I saw that I was on the wrong side

1907
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:54,240
Speaker 1: one of the company and just the wrong side of

1908
01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:57,720
Speaker 1: you know, uh, becoming successful and how to approach it.

1909
01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:02,479
Speaker 1: So when I came across you know, the foreign exchange market,

1910
01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:04,680
Speaker 1: you know, it was like a lightbulb that went off.

1911
01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:07,000
Speaker 1: I said, Wow, I said, this is something that I

1912
01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:10,160
Speaker 1: can actually use as an exit strategy. Because I was

1913
01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:12,960
Speaker 1: I was, no, no dummy. I wasn't about to just

1914
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:17,360
Speaker 1: quit a six figure job. But you know what, if

1915
01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:20,320
Speaker 1: I can really hone onto this skills, if I could

1916
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:23,880
Speaker 1: really understand this industry, I could use this as a

1917
01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:29,160
Speaker 1: exit strategy to go full time investor entrepreneur. So I

1918
01:44:29,320 --> 01:44:33,400
Speaker 1: came across the foreign exchange market about seventeen so I

1919
01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:35,439
Speaker 1: have been working at Bone for maybe like eight or

1920
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 1: nine months, and as soon as I really understood what

1921
01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:40,880
Speaker 1: the industry was, I said, you know what, I'm walking

1922
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:43,200
Speaker 1: off my job in about a year and a half.

1923
01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:45,599
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't do this anymore. You know, I'm

1924
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:47,400
Speaker 1: not as happy as I thought I would be. I

1925
01:44:47,439 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 1: thought making six figures would be you know that golden ticket.

1926
01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:51,920
Speaker 1: You want to be a six figure on it. That's

1927
01:44:51,960 --> 01:44:54,519
Speaker 1: what everybody wants to be in college, you know, coming out.

1928
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:57,360
Speaker 1: And so as I realized that, you know, it wasn't

1929
01:44:57,400 --> 01:44:59,880
Speaker 1: about the money. It was more so about the fulfillment

1930
01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:02,439
Speaker 1: and what you were doing on a daily basis. And

1931
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:05,080
Speaker 1: I wasn't getting fulfilled as a person. And so, you know,

1932
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:07,400
Speaker 1: as I began to get im mercy the skill set

1933
01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:09,479
Speaker 1: and I got better and better, I said, you know what,

1934
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:12,519
Speaker 1: this is something that I could really take all the way.

1935
01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:15,679
Speaker 1: And at the top of twenty nineteen, I went ahead

1936
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:20,640
Speaker 1: and fired my boss before they fired me and I

1937
01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:22,960
Speaker 1: and I took my talents all the way to full

1938
01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:26,680
Speaker 1: time entrepreneurship and I didn't look back. Now, you know,

1939
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:29,080
Speaker 1: let's go, let's go and talk about where he was

1940
01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:32,760
Speaker 1: at a six figure in Houston, Texas salary and a

1941
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:36,800
Speaker 1: six figure salary in California to them salars. Now the

1942
01:45:37,479 --> 01:45:42,840
Speaker 1: housing the rent, the taxes is super crazy in California

1943
01:45:44,200 --> 01:45:47,200
Speaker 1: right there, you know, is a game changer right there,

1944
01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:50,519
Speaker 1: just putting just buying tags for your call. It's crazy

1945
01:45:51,120 --> 01:45:53,439
Speaker 1: in California. I'll just let you know. I think I

1946
01:45:53,560 --> 01:45:55,439
Speaker 1: was paying like I paid up my tax on my

1947
01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:58,600
Speaker 1: car like forty dollars in Texas it was like a

1948
01:45:58,760 --> 01:46:01,720
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. And the point it's just the numbers are

1949
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:04,080
Speaker 1: just different. And how you living. Yeah, you got the

1950
01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:06,599
Speaker 1: numbers on your paycheck, but you giveing it out as

1951
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 1: soon as you cash it. So that was part of

1952
01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:12,400
Speaker 1: the process too as a forty hour week got now

1953
01:46:12,439 --> 01:46:15,120
Speaker 1: as an entrepreneur. The reason I brought you on the show,

1954
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:18,080
Speaker 1: I never the foreign exchange market. I don't know what

1955
01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:21,080
Speaker 1: that is. I'll be perfectly honest with you, Brandon, I

1956
01:46:21,120 --> 01:46:22,840
Speaker 1: don't know what you when you start talking like that,

1957
01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:25,360
Speaker 1: you you come on, You've coming. You know. I brought

1958
01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:27,479
Speaker 1: you in the show to educate me as well as

1959
01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:30,559
Speaker 1: my viewers and listener. What is the hard exchange market?

1960
01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:35,080
Speaker 1: So the foreign exchange market is it is the largest

1961
01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:38,320
Speaker 1: financial market in the world, the largest financial liquid market

1962
01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:41,000
Speaker 1: in the World's generating you know, anywhere from six point

1963
01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:44,040
Speaker 1: five to seven point seven trillion dollars a day on

1964
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:47,160
Speaker 1: that giving day. This is in volume. So we're talking

1965
01:46:47,200 --> 01:46:50,080
Speaker 1: about you know, trading. You know, in the foreign exchange market,

1966
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:53,479
Speaker 1: you are literally trading you know, currency payers, you know,

1967
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:56,479
Speaker 1: in their exchange rate. So as currency payers, you know,

1968
01:46:56,720 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 1: uh exchange rate fluctuate, you can make money on the

1969
01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:02,560
Speaker 1: rise and fall. So you know, just like stocks or

1970
01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:05,000
Speaker 1: something like that, you only make money, you know, on

1971
01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:07,360
Speaker 1: the rise of a share you get in that five

1972
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:09,639
Speaker 1: dollars a share, if it goes up ten ten dollars

1973
01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:12,599
Speaker 1: to share, you make money where well as in whereas

1974
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:14,920
Speaker 1: in the point exchange market, you can make money on

1975
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 1: the rise and fall of an exchange. Right. So for example,

1976
01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:21,040
Speaker 1: if we were to go out of the country, let's

1977
01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:23,840
Speaker 1: say from from Houston, Texas, we fly to Italy, right,

1978
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:27,680
Speaker 1: a lot of Italy there there there. Um, I want

1979
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:29,760
Speaker 1: to say that their currency is the euro, right, the

1980
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:32,360
Speaker 1: currency is the euro. So when we get there, we

1981
01:47:32,479 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 1: can't spend US dollars. We have to convert our US

1982
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:40,880
Speaker 1: dollars to their primary currency. So just for simplistic you know,

1983
01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:44,960
Speaker 1: simplistic understanding, let's say it's a two to one ratio

1984
01:47:45,120 --> 01:47:48,280
Speaker 1: for every two U. S. Dollars We give them equals

1985
01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:50,840
Speaker 1: one euro, so we give them a thousand U S.

1986
01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:53,840
Speaker 1: Dollars in return, they'll give us five hundred euros. Now,

1987
01:47:53,920 --> 01:47:56,200
Speaker 1: let's say we're on that trip, is all expense paid.

1988
01:47:56,600 --> 01:47:58,559
Speaker 1: You know, we're just having a good time. We don't

1989
01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:01,040
Speaker 1: have to worry about anything. We just have some spending cash,

1990
01:48:01,160 --> 01:48:03,680
Speaker 1: that five hundred EUROLD that we converted over from a

1991
01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:06,040
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Let's say at the end of that trip

1992
01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:08,080
Speaker 1: we end up spending nothing. We still have that five

1993
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:10,600
Speaker 1: hundred year old We get back to the States and

1994
01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:13,760
Speaker 1: we realized that we cannot spend euro in the United States.

1995
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:15,519
Speaker 1: So all we have to do is, you know, I'm

1996
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:17,439
Speaker 1: pretty sure people have seen it in the airport. Go

1997
01:48:17,560 --> 01:48:20,760
Speaker 1: to those foreign Exchange center booths and say, I want

1998
01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:23,840
Speaker 1: to exchange my five hundred YEARROLD back to U. S. Dollars.

1999
01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:25,680
Speaker 1: I didn't spend any of it when I was on

2000
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:29,639
Speaker 1: the trip. Now, logically thinking people are gonna be expecting

2001
01:48:29,680 --> 01:48:33,599
Speaker 1: a thousand U S. Dollars back, but what can happen

2002
01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:36,240
Speaker 1: to things can happen. You can get more or less

2003
01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:38,960
Speaker 1: than what you exchange. You can give them that five

2004
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:41,120
Speaker 1: hundred year old and they give you two thousand U S.

2005
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:43,720
Speaker 1: Dollars back and you profit a thousand dollars. Or you

2006
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:45,519
Speaker 1: can give them that five hundred year old and they

2007
01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:47,679
Speaker 1: give you five hundred U S. Dollars, where you lost

2008
01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:51,800
Speaker 1: five hundred dollars. The education, and that is where you

2009
01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:55,479
Speaker 1: understand what's going on. So if I understand the foreign

2010
01:48:55,520 --> 01:48:58,600
Speaker 1: exchange market, I see that, you know, the euro can

2011
01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:01,760
Speaker 1: get stronger to the US dollar, meaning that when I

2012
01:49:01,840 --> 01:49:06,840
Speaker 1: exchange it over it can double triple whatever what I did,

2013
01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:09,719
Speaker 1: what it was before I exchanged it, So at first

2014
01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:12,080
Speaker 1: it was two dollars, but when I exchange it back,

2015
01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:14,640
Speaker 1: it's four dollars. So I can actually make money, not

2016
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:18,800
Speaker 1: by spending it, not by necessarily working, but just by

2017
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:21,840
Speaker 1: exchanging currency at the right time. I don't know if

2018
01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:24,160
Speaker 1: you caught the rashan, but you know that's the basis

2019
01:49:24,240 --> 01:49:26,719
Speaker 1: of what the foreign exchange market is. It's just buying

2020
01:49:26,760 --> 01:49:30,160
Speaker 1: and selling currency and making money off of the fluctuation

2021
01:49:30,240 --> 01:49:33,760
Speaker 1: of the value. Well, you know, because you know, you know,

2022
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:36,640
Speaker 1: I travel or been to Mexico, been to Europe. You

2023
01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:39,240
Speaker 1: know the currency exchange, and I never really pay an

2024
01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:41,920
Speaker 1: attention to it, you know, other than the when them

2025
01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:43,840
Speaker 1: there in the moment, and so a lot of people don't.

2026
01:49:43,840 --> 01:49:46,560
Speaker 1: A lot of people, African Americans especially, they travel and

2027
01:49:46,640 --> 01:49:49,519
Speaker 1: they either get get caught up in the complications or

2028
01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:52,479
Speaker 1: they're just spen spend cash, and especially go to Mexico.

2029
01:49:52,560 --> 01:49:54,680
Speaker 1: You giveaway with just spending cash a lot of a

2030
01:49:54,720 --> 01:49:57,280
Speaker 1: lot of places that you go. But I've never heard

2031
01:49:57,400 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 1: this because I'm an stock buyer. You know, by stop,

2032
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:04,160
Speaker 1: I got buy mutual funds, investing insurance policies that that

2033
01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:07,519
Speaker 1: that that that give me a secured interest on my

2034
01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:11,080
Speaker 1: on my money that I invested as a universe or

2035
01:50:11,120 --> 01:50:13,960
Speaker 1: a whole, you can get a secured interest usually about

2036
01:50:13,960 --> 01:50:17,280
Speaker 1: four percent. So that's for Rashan McDonald's mindset has always

2037
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:19,840
Speaker 1: been when it comes to investing, you said, hold up,

2038
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:21,439
Speaker 1: put the brakes on the pump. The break of Sean.

2039
01:50:22,120 --> 01:50:25,320
Speaker 1: The far Exchange is also a market that I can

2040
01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:29,720
Speaker 1: invest my money into. Are you saying that as well? Absolutely?

2041
01:50:30,520 --> 01:50:34,800
Speaker 1: How so do I come to you? Do I they've

2042
01:50:34,800 --> 01:50:37,840
Speaker 1: got stockbroker officers open like they do it. I know

2043
01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:40,160
Speaker 1: you can. You can definitely come to me. That's that's

2044
01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:43,200
Speaker 1: exactly what we do. We teach people how to you know,

2045
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:47,240
Speaker 1: um start participating. So to be completely honest with you,

2046
01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:50,240
Speaker 1: you don't have to pay anybody to to get started

2047
01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:53,080
Speaker 1: and start trading in the foreign exchange market. It but

2048
01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:55,680
Speaker 1: but who's you to get some education and get a

2049
01:50:55,760 --> 01:50:58,400
Speaker 1: mentorship and be attached to some type of platform that

2050
01:50:58,439 --> 01:51:01,519
Speaker 1: can give you guidance. But honestly, you can go start

2051
01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:05,360
Speaker 1: a startup broker right There's there's thousands of brokers online.

2052
01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 1: If you just Google for egg broker, you can start

2053
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:10,880
Speaker 1: an account for free and you can put as little

2054
01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:13,360
Speaker 1: as Some brokers allow you to put as little as

2055
01:51:13,400 --> 01:51:16,320
Speaker 1: tim bucks in your account to get started summer fifty.

2056
01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:20,240
Speaker 1: It just depends on the broker. And once you get

2057
01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:24,120
Speaker 1: that broker, you then attach that broker to your your

2058
01:51:24,240 --> 01:51:28,040
Speaker 1: trading platform, which we use either metatrator for or mediatrtor five.

2059
01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:31,120
Speaker 1: These are actually actual apps on your phone that you

2060
01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:33,519
Speaker 1: can download for free. So once you get your broker,

2061
01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:36,599
Speaker 1: they'll give you some credentials to connect that broker account

2062
01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:39,680
Speaker 1: to your trading app, which is could be mediatrator for

2063
01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:43,559
Speaker 1: metatrtor five and then you start trading. It's as simple

2064
01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:46,000
Speaker 1: as that, you know. But what we do is we

2065
01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:48,280
Speaker 1: we we give you that guidance. We give you that

2066
01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:51,240
Speaker 1: you know, that mentorship to show you not only you

2067
01:51:51,320 --> 01:51:53,400
Speaker 1: know how to just put money in your account, but

2068
01:51:53,479 --> 01:51:56,080
Speaker 1: how to actually make it grow consistently. And that's what

2069
01:51:56,439 --> 01:51:59,440
Speaker 1: that's what, that's what trade House is all about. Right absolutely,

2070
01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:02,000
Speaker 1: okay to so you know, let's let's talk about your

2071
01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:03,720
Speaker 1: background here a little bit. You know, you what the

2072
01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:06,000
Speaker 1: prayer of you what the Hampton first, and it was

2073
01:52:06,040 --> 01:52:08,439
Speaker 1: also money has always been to the forefront of your

2074
01:52:08,479 --> 01:52:11,080
Speaker 1: conversation because, like you said, it was too expensive. So

2075
01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:13,519
Speaker 1: you had to come back to the Houston area and

2076
01:52:13,760 --> 01:52:16,880
Speaker 1: uh consider texas southern, but it didn't hit your major

2077
01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:20,040
Speaker 1: and then you wanted to like that HBCU culture. That

2078
01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:22,960
Speaker 1: that that's structure that felt you walk around and he

2079
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:25,080
Speaker 1: is a competitive environe with people that look like you.

2080
01:52:25,680 --> 01:52:28,519
Speaker 1: With the prayer of you got that degree, I went

2081
01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:33,000
Speaker 1: to California Snoop Dogg Country realized that okay, cool Snoop Stoop,

2082
01:52:33,080 --> 01:52:36,200
Speaker 1: I gotta go, brother, gotta go. I gotta get out

2083
01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:38,240
Speaker 1: of California, gotta get out of Compton. Their air where

2084
01:52:38,240 --> 01:52:41,120
Speaker 1: I'm out. And so now you're back in Houston, most

2085
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:45,240
Speaker 1: city boy and trade House. You know the reason I

2086
01:52:45,360 --> 01:52:47,599
Speaker 1: say that because you seem like an innovative, You seem

2087
01:52:47,680 --> 01:52:50,800
Speaker 1: like a person who sits around. Who is your core group,

2088
01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:54,280
Speaker 1: who w was your thinking team, Who was inspiring you

2089
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:56,120
Speaker 1: in your group to be able to take a lot

2090
01:52:56,160 --> 01:52:57,880
Speaker 1: of these ideas to the next level, because you know,

2091
01:52:58,000 --> 01:53:00,400
Speaker 1: like with all of my Apple Michael's off they just

2092
01:53:00,479 --> 01:53:02,479
Speaker 1: start by themselves. They had a little core group of

2093
01:53:02,680 --> 01:53:06,960
Speaker 1: fellows that that managed to build these franchises out. Who

2094
01:53:07,120 --> 01:53:11,160
Speaker 1: who is your team? Absolutely? You know, my my younger brother,

2095
01:53:11,280 --> 01:53:14,599
Speaker 1: Bryce Thompson, he was actually one of the first people

2096
01:53:14,680 --> 01:53:17,680
Speaker 1: that I introduced, you know, to the skill set. And

2097
01:53:17,960 --> 01:53:21,360
Speaker 1: you know, he was in college at the time, struggling

2098
01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:24,880
Speaker 1: college student at more House College, and um, you know,

2099
01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:26,880
Speaker 1: when I've seen this, I said, man, if I would

2100
01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:29,040
Speaker 1: have had this in college, this is definitely something that

2101
01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:32,200
Speaker 1: would have changed the trajectory of my finances. And you know,

2102
01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:35,400
Speaker 1: I always wanted to put him on something, but I

2103
01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:37,519
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure it was sustainable, and I knew

2104
01:53:37,560 --> 01:53:41,519
Speaker 1: that he can have, you know, a long longevity in it,

2105
01:53:41,600 --> 01:53:44,639
Speaker 1: and so I passed this along to him and then

2106
01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:47,320
Speaker 1: you know, he got a few of his friends on

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01:53:47,840 --> 01:53:51,559
Speaker 1: shout out to Nathan Samuel Ian Jackson right now, though,

2108
01:53:51,640 --> 01:53:54,960
Speaker 1: Perez just to name a few, started with about four

2109
01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:56,800
Speaker 1: or five of us, but you know, I was the

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01:53:56,840 --> 01:53:59,520
Speaker 1: one that kind of spearheaded it brought it to everybody.

2111
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:03,680
Speaker 1: Then we started to you know, collaborate and you know,

2112
01:54:03,800 --> 01:54:06,639
Speaker 1: amongst us, we we started spreading it to the colleges.

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01:54:06,840 --> 01:54:10,400
Speaker 1: I called it the rich college Kids tour Um because

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01:54:10,479 --> 01:54:13,639
Speaker 1: simply I didn't I didn't want to. I didn't want

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01:54:13,680 --> 01:54:17,200
Speaker 1: to start, you know, and my my uh demographic because

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01:54:17,240 --> 01:54:19,040
Speaker 1: we were already in college, I said, I mean I

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01:54:19,160 --> 01:54:22,080
Speaker 1: already graduating college. I was looking for people that were

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01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:26,080
Speaker 1: already in the lining environment and we're looking for extra money.

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Speaker 1: So I feel like that was the best market to start, Like,

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01:54:28,400 --> 01:54:31,120
Speaker 1: we can get you here in college where you're already

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01:54:31,400 --> 01:54:33,560
Speaker 1: in a in a in a mindset to learn something new,

2122
01:54:33,880 --> 01:54:35,960
Speaker 1: and you you want to get more money because we

2123
01:54:36,040 --> 01:54:39,280
Speaker 1: know the struggling college student story. I said, this would

2124
01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:42,200
Speaker 1: be the perfect, you know, demographic to start at and

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01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:44,880
Speaker 1: really take this to the next level. Wow. So you

2126
01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:46,640
Speaker 1: guys have been view and your brother Bright's have been

2127
01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:49,160
Speaker 1: featured in Forest magazine. Now what did that do for

2128
01:54:49,240 --> 01:54:54,440
Speaker 1: your brain? Come on now, Forbes, man, it definitely legitimizes it.

2129
01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:58,040
Speaker 1: You know. Um, you know, like you said, are are

2130
01:54:58,200 --> 01:55:01,160
Speaker 1: our people don't really understand and you know, the the

2131
01:55:01,280 --> 01:55:03,520
Speaker 1: investment world, I feel like we've we've taken over a

2132
01:55:03,600 --> 01:55:06,800
Speaker 1: lot of different industries from entertainment, sports, you know, but

2133
01:55:06,920 --> 01:55:09,200
Speaker 1: I feel like business and and the finance well is

2134
01:55:09,280 --> 01:55:12,480
Speaker 1: something that we're still you know, competing to really you know,

2135
01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:15,280
Speaker 1: hold the crowning. So like to have that article written

2136
01:55:15,360 --> 01:55:17,600
Speaker 1: for both of us in that light, you know, just

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01:55:17,920 --> 01:55:21,760
Speaker 1: just it gives validity that that we can be you know,

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01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:24,000
Speaker 1: on top in that space and that you know, it's

2139
01:55:24,400 --> 01:55:26,400
Speaker 1: it's a lot more room for us. We just have

2140
01:55:26,560 --> 01:55:29,080
Speaker 1: to you know, put ourselves around the right people that

2141
01:55:29,200 --> 01:55:31,680
Speaker 1: had the right information. You know, it's really interesting when

2142
01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:34,280
Speaker 1: I hear you talk because you're young, which is a blessing,

2143
01:55:34,800 --> 01:55:36,560
Speaker 1: but you but you figured it out. You know. I

2144
01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:39,320
Speaker 1: always tell people you can just figured it out. I

2145
01:55:39,320 --> 01:55:42,560
Speaker 1: will give you four just sit down and figure it out.

2146
01:55:42,840 --> 01:55:45,920
Speaker 1: But don't you have to trust yourself? And then when

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01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:49,480
Speaker 1: I say trust yourself, obviously you graduated, you went to California,

2148
01:55:49,720 --> 01:55:53,320
Speaker 1: was living to quote unquote plan and then you said

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01:55:53,360 --> 01:55:56,600
Speaker 1: the plan is not working for me. So when did

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01:55:56,640 --> 01:56:03,080
Speaker 1: you start trusting yourself. Brendon, Well, you know, I always

2151
01:56:03,320 --> 01:56:09,320
Speaker 1: was was one of those people that I wasn't necessarily

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01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:12,440
Speaker 1: like a logical thinking. I'm a logical thinking, but I'm

2153
01:56:12,520 --> 01:56:15,520
Speaker 1: very intuitive, right, I'm very intuned with with with with

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01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:19,920
Speaker 1: the spirit, right and and and my inner self. And

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01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:21,920
Speaker 1: one of the people that I looked up to one

2156
01:56:21,960 --> 01:56:23,960
Speaker 1: of my I guess you could say my virtual mentors

2157
01:56:24,040 --> 01:56:28,400
Speaker 1: is Napoleon Hill. And I probably start watching um and

2158
01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:32,920
Speaker 1: reading some of his material. Back in TWI and uh,

2159
01:56:33,320 --> 01:56:36,200
Speaker 1: I watched the video on YouTube called the Seventeen Keys

2160
01:56:36,280 --> 01:56:39,880
Speaker 1: to Success by Napoleon Hill, and I will watch, you know, uh,

2161
01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:43,480
Speaker 1: I guess an excerpt every day before I went to class.

2162
01:56:43,560 --> 01:56:47,280
Speaker 1: It was seventeen of them. And you know, once I

2163
01:56:47,440 --> 01:56:49,839
Speaker 1: realized some of the things I was doing was actually

2164
01:56:49,960 --> 01:56:53,320
Speaker 1: on accident, like you know, manifesting things, and he actually

2165
01:56:53,920 --> 01:56:56,280
Speaker 1: made it like an actual thing. While I was like, Wow,

2166
01:56:56,320 --> 01:56:59,440
Speaker 1: I can actually be intentional about manifesting my life. I

2167
01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:02,200
Speaker 1: could be intentional about, you know, the things I do

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01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:06,120
Speaker 1: to get success. So once I understood that there's intentionalism

2169
01:57:06,200 --> 01:57:09,600
Speaker 1: behind succeeding, then I start doing those things on a

2170
01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:12,400
Speaker 1: on a daily basis. And I realized that okay. Cool.

2171
01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:14,840
Speaker 1: If I want to do something that's outside of the normal,

2172
01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:18,400
Speaker 1: that that might look crazy to other people, it's okay

2173
01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:21,879
Speaker 1: because if I'm intentional enough and I understand the formula

2174
01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:25,040
Speaker 1: and the recipe to success, it's gonna all make sense

2175
01:57:25,120 --> 01:57:27,160
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. We know. An interesting

2176
01:57:27,240 --> 01:57:29,000
Speaker 1: thing of what I love about you, first of all,

2177
01:57:29,120 --> 01:57:31,920
Speaker 1: is that you don't forget the value of being an

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01:57:32,040 --> 01:57:35,280
Speaker 1: hbc You graduated and then your your scholarship that you

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01:57:35,440 --> 01:57:40,840
Speaker 1: created to fund HBCU students in the stillm uh lane,

2180
01:57:41,280 --> 01:57:47,400
Speaker 1: why is that important? It's it's super important. Um, it's

2181
01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:51,080
Speaker 1: it's not enough of us in that space. One. And

2182
01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:54,680
Speaker 1: so I wanted to be a an example to say, hey,

2183
01:57:54,800 --> 01:57:58,040
Speaker 1: look I'm somebody that yeah, I'm not in the field anymore.

2184
01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:01,280
Speaker 1: But I did use it as a for him, um,

2185
01:58:02,680 --> 01:58:05,400
Speaker 1: and you can do it too. And then I also

2186
01:58:05,640 --> 01:58:07,400
Speaker 1: know that you know, it's a lot of it's a

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01:58:07,440 --> 01:58:10,680
Speaker 1: lot of smart kids out there that are struggling in

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01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:14,040
Speaker 1: school and they want to be able to focus. I

2189
01:58:14,160 --> 01:58:19,240
Speaker 1: remember struggling at Hampton more specifically, UM, when I was

2190
01:58:19,360 --> 01:58:22,640
Speaker 1: going from my electrical engineering degree, and it was so

2191
01:58:23,280 --> 01:58:26,400
Speaker 1: it was such a different experience because my finances weren't

2192
01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:31,080
Speaker 1: in order. Your finances are in order. In school, it's

2193
01:58:31,120 --> 01:58:36,200
Speaker 1: hard to to, I guess, focus on the scholastics. It's

2194
01:58:36,240 --> 01:58:39,520
Speaker 1: hard to focus on the curriculum. You're more so focusing on, Man,

2195
01:58:39,560 --> 01:58:41,520
Speaker 1: how am I gonna even buy the book? How am

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01:58:41,560 --> 01:58:43,560
Speaker 1: I gonna pay my rent? How am I gonna eat?

2197
01:58:43,960 --> 01:58:45,680
Speaker 1: You know, am I even gonna have enough money to

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01:58:45,800 --> 01:58:47,600
Speaker 1: go to school the next semester? So it's a lot

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Speaker 1: of the it's a lot of distractions when you don't

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01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:52,120
Speaker 1: have your finances in order. And so if I could

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01:58:52,160 --> 01:58:54,920
Speaker 1: take that that thought away from a student and say, hey,

2202
01:58:55,160 --> 01:58:57,960
Speaker 1: you know, college is is your semester is paid for?

2203
01:58:58,200 --> 01:59:00,720
Speaker 1: Just focus on the on the books, just focus on

2204
01:59:00,840 --> 01:59:04,080
Speaker 1: getting the internship, and and that's gonna do you well

2205
01:59:04,240 --> 01:59:06,920
Speaker 1: off well, way way more well. You're gonna be way

2206
01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:08,840
Speaker 1: more well off if you're able to focus just on

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01:59:09,000 --> 01:59:12,480
Speaker 1: school then focusing on finances. So that was really big

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01:59:12,560 --> 01:59:14,360
Speaker 1: for me to be able to, you know, give back

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01:59:14,480 --> 01:59:16,560
Speaker 1: to two people that I know have been in my

2210
01:59:16,680 --> 01:59:20,720
Speaker 1: shoes before and understand the power of them, you know,

2211
01:59:20,880 --> 01:59:23,760
Speaker 1: taking that that that whole out of their life, so

2212
01:59:23,880 --> 01:59:26,600
Speaker 1: that could really focus on what's important. You know, Um,

2213
01:59:27,640 --> 01:59:31,000
Speaker 1: I enjoy reading your synopsis that were sent on about

2214
01:59:31,040 --> 01:59:34,040
Speaker 1: you because you talked about your mom and uh, you

2215
01:59:34,120 --> 01:59:36,600
Speaker 1: and your brother Bryce, and I remember my mom, you know,

2216
01:59:37,560 --> 01:59:39,800
Speaker 1: like if we were born, and fear for my father

2217
01:59:39,920 --> 01:59:43,640
Speaker 1: passed before she passed. She's passed now. And one of

2218
01:59:43,680 --> 01:59:45,360
Speaker 1: the things she wouldn't move out of that house. You know,

2219
01:59:45,480 --> 01:59:47,880
Speaker 1: we grew up with a you know, a window, our

2220
01:59:47,920 --> 01:59:51,160
Speaker 1: condition and unit. And she moved the stove. You know

2221
01:59:51,320 --> 01:59:53,440
Speaker 1: what we do, you lean on you're gonna get burned,

2222
01:59:53,480 --> 01:59:56,200
Speaker 1: you know, gas stove. You know, the whole thing was hot.

2223
01:59:57,960 --> 02:00:00,760
Speaker 1: And I told us, say, hey, I to tear down house.

2224
02:00:00,760 --> 02:00:02,760
Speaker 1: She would let me tear out of house. That's okay, cool,

2225
02:00:03,480 --> 02:00:06,560
Speaker 1: because I wanted her to live and experience central air conditioning,

2226
02:00:06,640 --> 02:00:09,080
Speaker 1: central heat, you know, just just you walk into a

2227
02:00:09,160 --> 02:00:11,600
Speaker 1: room and it's warm, you know. And uh. And I

2228
02:00:11,720 --> 02:00:14,240
Speaker 1: was able to do that and now and and before

2229
02:00:14,280 --> 02:00:15,880
Speaker 1: she passed, because that was that was one of my

2230
02:00:16,400 --> 02:00:18,840
Speaker 1: you know, dreams of giving her that life. Of course,

2231
02:00:18,880 --> 02:00:20,680
Speaker 1: she never went back into the old part of the

2232
02:00:20,720 --> 02:00:22,560
Speaker 1: house that she wouldn't let me tear out. Basically, I

2233
02:00:22,600 --> 02:00:24,600
Speaker 1: build a new part of the house onto an old

2234
02:00:24,640 --> 02:00:26,600
Speaker 1: part of the house. When I read about you know,

2235
02:00:26,720 --> 02:00:28,280
Speaker 1: unless you with your mom and how you and your

2236
02:00:28,320 --> 02:00:31,280
Speaker 1: brother Bryce were able to retire her allowed her to

2237
02:00:31,360 --> 02:00:33,800
Speaker 1: follow her or live her passage. Talk about that, the

2238
02:00:33,920 --> 02:00:38,280
Speaker 1: importance of that, Oh man, I think I think every

2239
02:00:38,360 --> 02:00:42,200
Speaker 1: child wants to be able to pay homage to their parents,

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Speaker 1: you know, whether it's financially or it's them just succeeding

2241
02:00:47,320 --> 02:00:49,440
Speaker 1: at a high level to make them proud. So, you know,

2242
02:00:49,600 --> 02:00:53,400
Speaker 1: graduating college was definitely one of the things that you know,

2243
02:00:54,800 --> 02:00:58,920
Speaker 1: um that motivated me to finish. You know, graduating college

2244
02:00:58,960 --> 02:01:00,640
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I gotta do it. My mom, she

2245
02:01:01,240 --> 02:01:03,840
Speaker 1: she didn't she didn't get to go, So you know,

2246
02:01:03,960 --> 02:01:06,640
Speaker 1: she made it important that I made it importance on

2247
02:01:06,680 --> 02:01:08,280
Speaker 1: it that I should go and I should finish so

2248
02:01:08,360 --> 02:01:12,280
Speaker 1: I can have more opportunities than she did. But you know,

2249
02:01:12,360 --> 02:01:17,000
Speaker 1: getting into a space where I was financially you know, sustained,

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Speaker 1: sustained enough to not only take care of myself, but

2251
02:01:19,680 --> 02:01:22,200
Speaker 1: then trickle it down and be like, hey, mom, you

2252
02:01:22,240 --> 02:01:25,440
Speaker 1: don't have to work anymore. You know, I'm making enough

2253
02:01:25,480 --> 02:01:28,200
Speaker 1: money where I could send you, you know, allowance every

2254
02:01:28,280 --> 02:01:30,520
Speaker 1: week for you to not only cover your bills, but

2255
02:01:30,680 --> 02:01:33,080
Speaker 1: for you to actually live a better lifestyle than you've

2256
02:01:33,120 --> 02:01:36,200
Speaker 1: been living. And you know that's always been a dream

2257
02:01:36,240 --> 02:01:37,960
Speaker 1: of mine. You know, they say you gotta have a whip.

2258
02:01:38,080 --> 02:01:39,960
Speaker 1: You don't have a while, you know what I'm saying,

2259
02:01:40,000 --> 02:01:43,120
Speaker 1: Then it's gonna be hard to really push through those

2260
02:01:43,160 --> 02:01:45,600
Speaker 1: tough times. You know, the hire stands for will help you, right,

2261
02:01:45,640 --> 02:01:47,880
Speaker 1: So on those tough times, you gotta have something that

2262
02:01:47,960 --> 02:01:50,200
Speaker 1: you're anchored to, that you're you're pushing for as bigger

2263
02:01:50,240 --> 02:01:52,840
Speaker 1: than yourself. And so, you know, just having my mom

2264
02:01:52,880 --> 02:01:55,160
Speaker 1: in the back of my mind, knowing all the sacrifices

2265
02:01:55,240 --> 02:01:57,800
Speaker 1: that she made for me to even you know, get

2266
02:01:57,880 --> 02:02:00,960
Speaker 1: to college, you know, it made me feel like a

2267
02:02:01,560 --> 02:02:03,960
Speaker 1: sense of responsibility that I had to at least try

2268
02:02:04,000 --> 02:02:05,440
Speaker 1: to pay it back. I know I can never pay

2269
02:02:05,480 --> 02:02:08,000
Speaker 1: it back, but I could at least, you know, you know,

2270
02:02:08,160 --> 02:02:10,720
Speaker 1: try my hardest to to to give her, like you said,

2271
02:02:11,360 --> 02:02:14,240
Speaker 1: an experience that she probably wouldn't have gotten if I didn't,

2272
02:02:14,400 --> 02:02:17,440
Speaker 1: you know, make that um the forefront of my goals. Well,

2273
02:02:17,480 --> 02:02:19,960
Speaker 1: you know, before COVID, that's what they said, no mask

2274
02:02:20,160 --> 02:02:23,360
Speaker 1: And we've been doing doing virtual and events for the

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02:02:23,440 --> 02:02:26,440
Speaker 1: past year. You got the I Millennial three conference happening

2276
02:02:26,520 --> 02:02:29,600
Speaker 1: this month, in Miami, my favorite city. By the way,

2277
02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:31,680
Speaker 1: I don't know why you're doing it down there, brand

2278
02:02:31,720 --> 02:02:34,040
Speaker 1: I know why. I love why you're doing it down there.

2279
02:02:34,560 --> 02:02:37,520
Speaker 1: It's happening again. Talk about how it started though, you know,

2280
02:02:37,560 --> 02:02:41,040
Speaker 1: because the keyword you are millennial, and so you you know,

2281
02:02:41,680 --> 02:02:43,840
Speaker 1: literials get a bad rap bum rap, And I think

2282
02:02:43,840 --> 02:02:47,920
Speaker 1: they're easing up now because the fact that you understand mentorship,

2283
02:02:48,160 --> 02:02:51,600
Speaker 1: You crave me mentorship, you seek out mentorship, and I

2284
02:02:51,720 --> 02:02:54,080
Speaker 1: think that's something that's important. It was something I didn't do.

2285
02:02:54,160 --> 02:02:56,560
Speaker 1: I didn't understand when I was growing up, and you

2286
02:02:56,640 --> 02:02:59,960
Speaker 1: guys understand the value of mentorship and just hanging around

2287
02:03:00,040 --> 02:03:03,840
Speaker 1: people were experienced. Talk about the Millennial Millennial three conferences

2288
02:03:03,880 --> 02:03:07,879
Speaker 1: happening in Miami this month. Oh, I'm super super excited

2289
02:03:07,920 --> 02:03:10,360
Speaker 1: about I AM three. You know, it's gonna be a

2290
02:03:11,400 --> 02:03:14,560
Speaker 1: industry shifting event, you know, just to give you a

2291
02:03:14,600 --> 02:03:17,560
Speaker 1: little backstory on I AM you know, it is a

2292
02:03:18,280 --> 02:03:21,840
Speaker 1: you know, essentially an event where we come together as

2293
02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:24,960
Speaker 1: an organization and we just give value from you know,

2294
02:03:25,120 --> 02:03:30,200
Speaker 1: teaching how to market mindset, you know, you know, strategies

2295
02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:33,320
Speaker 1: on you know, looking at the market and becoming more

2296
02:03:33,400 --> 02:03:35,640
Speaker 1: profitable and then as well as entertainment. You know, we

2297
02:03:35,720 --> 02:03:37,680
Speaker 1: want to have fun while we're there. But you know,

2298
02:03:37,800 --> 02:03:41,880
Speaker 1: we started off I Am One in Atlanta, Georgia at

2299
02:03:41,920 --> 02:03:45,680
Speaker 1: the Four Seasons Hotel downtown and we had about maybe

2300
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Speaker 1: eleven d people show up, very great turn out, you know,

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02:03:48,920 --> 02:03:51,760
Speaker 1: for our first one. And then the second one we had,

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Speaker 1: I Am Too was in Houston, Texas at the Marriott

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02:03:55,240 --> 02:03:59,120
Speaker 1: Hotel in West Chase District in Houston, Texas, and um

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02:03:59,680 --> 02:04:03,000
Speaker 1: it was about fourth doulland over four thousand people, you know,

2305
02:04:03,120 --> 02:04:06,960
Speaker 1: and then the pandemic hit right after that. So now

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02:04:07,240 --> 02:04:10,560
Speaker 1: you know, we've been able to finess our way into

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02:04:10,720 --> 02:04:14,280
Speaker 1: the hard Rock Stadium, you know, where the Dolphins play

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02:04:14,360 --> 02:04:17,880
Speaker 1: in Miami, Florida, and you know, we're expecting you know,

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Speaker 1: anywhere from fifteen thousand and twenty thousand people in attendance.

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Speaker 1: We're having performers like the Baby Uh come out and

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02:04:25,200 --> 02:04:28,960
Speaker 1: give us entertainment as well as I'm actually performing on

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02:04:29,480 --> 02:04:31,840
Speaker 1: on one of those days as well, which is something

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you you knew that I got

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Speaker 1: so I'm truly excited for this event and I know

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Speaker 1: again for coming on the show Money Making Conversation. I'm

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