1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: CAFI I Am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app been 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: we're on the radio one till four after four o'clock 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: John again on demand the podcast, and you could listen 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: to what you missed. 6 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and of course we have a chance for money 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: coming up about fifteen minutes the CAFI cash contest continues. 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 2: We'll have the Moistline people lined up next hour, so 9 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: there's a lot to come this hour. Later on, we'll 10 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: be talking about the juvenile justice system, or what's left 11 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: of it in La County, with a couple of stories 12 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: related to it, but basically the top line of this 13 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: is La County DA George Gascon does not believe in 14 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: any kind of detention for juveniles who commit crimes, even 15 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: violent ones. He wants diversion programs is the word they use, wire, 16 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: which is nonsense. 17 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: Explaining that that what that means. 18 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: And there's not a lawsuit against him because apparently some 19 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: of his deputies are fighting back against him and he's 20 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: retaliated against them by demoting them. 21 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 3: We again to all of that. 22 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: First, we begin with the Los Angeles City Council, and 23 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: we've been talking a lot about you know, Mark Ridley Thomas. 24 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: But under the radar was another case well that popped 25 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 2: up this year. That's Current Price. 26 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: There are so many indicted and imprisoned and disgraced LA 27 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: City Council members, it's just hard to keep track and 28 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 1: the current price. Yes, he has been indicted and he's 29 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: going to go to trial. And Price's attorney made a 30 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 1: court filing this week pushing back on the charges, which 31 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: he says. 32 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: Five counts of grand theft by embezzlement, three counts of perjury, 33 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: two counts of conflict of interest. It deals with medical 34 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: premiums for his wife slash girlfriend, and other charges dealing 35 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: with payments to his wife's consulting company. 36 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: It's always housing development, so our real estate, you know, hotels, condos, 37 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: shopping centers. 38 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: Just a question. 39 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: Can somebody build a real estate project in LA without 40 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:10,839 Speaker 1: bribing a public official? Be very hard, That's what I think. 41 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 4: You know, maybe IF's a little fast food joint or 42 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 4: something you just want to sneak in. 43 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 3: Lemah stand if somebody's kids want. 44 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 4: I think it's funny you guys were talking about trying 45 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 4: to keep up with all these cases. Every time I 46 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 4: do an update on one of these political corruption cases. 47 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 4: I'm like, which one is this again, I'm like pulling 48 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 4: the files, like, oh yeah, so that really does speak volumes. 49 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 4: Just as a reporter, it is hard to keep up 50 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 4: with all of the allegations with the different various city 51 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 4: council members. But yeah, guys, as you mentioned, arraignment for 52 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 4: current Price was postponed today for the third time. This 53 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 4: arraignment was first first pushed out in July, then again 54 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 4: in August. Now we're here to recap Price's wife allegedly 55 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 4: receive payments totally more than one hundred and fifty thousand 56 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 4: dollars between twenty nineteen and twenty twenty one from developers 57 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 4: before Price voted to approve projects. Price is also charged 58 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 4: with receiving more than thirty three thousand medical coverage for 59 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 4: his wife while he was still married to another woman. 60 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 4: That was from I believe twenty thirteen to twenty seventeen. 61 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 4: Price's legal team is challenging the sufficiency of the criminal 62 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 4: complaint against him. His team filed this challenge, I'm told 63 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 4: late yesterday a councilman Price's team says there's no allegation 64 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 4: that council member Price acted willfully or knowingly with the 65 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 4: conflict of interest charges or financial disclosure charges. Price's team 66 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 4: also states that the embezzlement charges are time barred, so 67 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 4: essentially the statute of limitations has passed on any of 68 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 4: those charges the defense says if there are. The defense 69 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 4: basically is saying that their challenge to these charges, even 70 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 4: if it's denied and the case goes forward, the case 71 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 4: will fall apart when the prosecution is required to put 72 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 4: forth its evidence. I reached out to the Councilman's office 73 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 4: to see if I could get an interview with his 74 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 4: legal team. Still waiting to hear back, I did have 75 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 4: a chance to catch up with Deputy da Casey Higgins today, 76 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 4: the lead prosecutor on this case. 77 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: He says he's confident this case will push on. 78 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 4: We'll start here with Higgins saying that the issue of 79 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 4: this being wilful, so one of the complaints that Price's 80 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 4: legal team had on these charges was that Price did 81 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 4: not act willfully. Well, Higgins says the issue of wilful 82 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 4: is implied in the fact that Price was charged to begin. 83 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 5: With all crimes unless it says specific intent or it 84 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 5: has to be willful. No one can put your gun 85 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 5: to your head and force you to do something under 86 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 5: drest and you'll be criminally. 87 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 3: Prosecuted for it. 88 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 5: So that's why it's interesting that they're fighting over wilful 89 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 5: when that's presumed in all charges. 90 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 3: Even it's not specifically stated. 91 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 5: But more importantly, if it's going to notice that he 92 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 5: wilfully did it, we laid out the checks, the amounts, 93 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 5: the dates, the city council vote file, and his vote. 94 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,239 Speaker 5: That's way more than most defendants get as far as 95 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 5: what our theory is and what we're alleging. If the 96 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 5: implication from their motion appears to be in we'll see 97 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,239 Speaker 5: in court that somehow his staff bungled this. 98 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 3: Will file motion. 99 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 5: We've indicated in its public record that in our response 100 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 5: to the city attorney motion to quash our request for records, 101 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 5: that these are not the only instances. There's potentially five 102 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 5: to six more conflict of interest charges alone that we 103 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 5: could bring that we haven't and we may or may not. 104 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 4: So right there, you kind of get an idea of 105 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 4: where Price's legal team may try to take this. It 106 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 4: was my staff, and that's what is describing that, which 107 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,799 Speaker 4: is so they're not denying that this happened. They're saying 108 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 4: he wasn't responsible personally. Yeah and so, and one thing 109 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 4: I just want to show or point to you guys 110 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 4: is Higgins further supported his claim that Price had some 111 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 4: sort of idea that some. 112 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 3: Of this was going on. We'll go to this bike. 113 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 5: It is public information from Only Times. In twenty nineteen, 114 00:05:54,600 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 5: they reported that fpp FPPC SO Fair Political Practice Commission, 115 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 5: who regulates disclosure on your forums under penalty purchase, which 116 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 5: is some of his charges, told him, hey, look, you 117 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 5: and your wife, there's an issue. He was unknown as 118 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 5: then all of our charges are after that, so he 119 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 5: was on full notice. But I haven't heard and I 120 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 5: haven't read, and remains to be seen that he fired 121 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 5: any of his staff. If they're so bad at this 122 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 5: that they took any action to correct this, it's an 123 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 5: obligation on him as a civil servant. 124 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: Well, well, it's good to dump it on your staff, 125 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: because I mean, can they be charged with the crime. 126 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 4: Well, in these cases typically the staff is not charged 127 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 4: with the crime. And the way Higgins describes it as 128 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 4: these are your staff, You're still responsible. 129 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, he's blaming people that 130 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't get in trouble for it. 131 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 3: That's a really clever strategy. 132 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, guys, we also have a possible side battle 133 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 4: forming here between the La County DA's office and the 134 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 4: La City Attorney. 135 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 3: I do want to go to this as well. 136 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 4: Court paper show that in twenty nineteen, the La Times 137 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 4: had quoted Price's wife, Del Richardson. I'm going to go 138 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 4: to these court paper right now so you guys can 139 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 4: hear how this was sparked at this point in the case. 140 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 4: This is an article again from twenty nineteen where she said, 141 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 4: at one point, I was told anyone I spoke with 142 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 4: this is Del Richardson speaking. By the way, according to 143 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 4: the La Times, at one point, I was told anybody 144 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 4: I spoke to, worked with, etc. That did or wanted 145 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 4: to do any business with the City of La while 146 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 4: my husband was in office would be conflicted as long 147 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 4: as he held office, Richard said. 148 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 3: Wote wrote, then I was told. 149 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 4: That if I had contract or relationship prior to him 150 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 4: taking office, I was okay. Then if I then it 151 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 4: was if I had an eight year history, I was okay. 152 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 4: So saying if there was a prior relationship, it was okay. Well, 153 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 4: Higgins told me that he's actually reached out to the 154 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 4: City Attorney's office to try to get some of that 155 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 4: correspondence between the city attorney and Del Richardson, and he 156 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 4: says he is getting some pushback from this. Here's a 157 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 4: little bit of that exchange as well, and a lot 158 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 4: of this is just really starting to surface. What's kind 159 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 4: of going on behind the scenes with this Current Price case, 160 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 4: say the city attorney and we'll go back. We'll go 161 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 4: over to this in a second. You say, the city 162 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 4: attorney is declining your requests to get some information on 163 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 4: what kind of conversations they had with Current Price and 164 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 4: Del Richardson, because you believe they did give him some 165 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 4: sort of advice as to how they should handle these votes. 166 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 5: That's what it appears from the La Times article. So 167 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 5: I'm just going by what was there, and I'm just asking, hey, 168 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 5: I saw this, and you gave definitely advice to his wife, 169 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 5: according to this article. 170 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 3: I'd like to know what that is. 171 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 5: And they have asserted their right to attorney client and 172 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 5: work product, and we've challenged in our response that we 173 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 5: don't think that those are valid reasons because the client 174 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 5: is the city, the entity, and part of the argument 175 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 5: is Current Price couldn't even wave and talk about what 176 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 5: they talked about because he's not the client he but 177 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 5: he's covered by it. And not only has he covered, 178 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 5: his wife, who's not a city employee, is covered by it. 179 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 5: And argument to that as well is, well, you've waived 180 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 5: whatever right you may have had to attorney client when 181 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 5: you did nothing since twenty nineteen to notify La Times 182 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 5: not to print that, or to print a retraction or 183 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 5: sued Al Richardson. They've responded that they don't according to 184 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 5: their responses, that they don't think that's persuasive. But that's 185 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 5: our argument that it's been waived and it was incumbent 186 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 5: on them if they thought it was so valuable to 187 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 5: protect that privilege to do something about it. 188 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 4: And I reached out to the City Attorney's office for 189 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 4: an interview. They gave me a statement that said the city, 190 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 4: while the City Attorney's Office is committed to assisting the 191 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 4: District Attorney's Office to the fullest extent permitted by law 192 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 4: and ethics, the District Attorney's Office is seeking confidential and 193 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 4: privileged information that our office is not permitted to produce. 194 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 4: It's our duty to preserve the confidentiality of attorney client 195 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 4: privileged communications, and breaching this obligation would not only violate 196 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 4: the law in professional ethics, but would make it impossible 197 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 4: for the city Attorney to adequately represent the city of 198 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 4: la So there is a side battle there between these 199 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 4: two departments, and I think with this interview we're really 200 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 4: starting to get an idea of kind of what's unraveling 201 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 4: behind the scenes. This is largely as you you guys mentioned, 202 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 4: been a pretty quiet case. 203 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 3: All right, very good, Thank you Blake. All right, thanks guys. 204 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 2: All Right, we got more coming up, including your chance 205 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: to win some money next to keyword will be revealed 206 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: Johnny kenk I AM six forty Live everywhere iHeartRadio app. 207 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 208 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 6: AM six forty. 209 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 2: All right, Well, last week we covered the story out 210 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 2: of West Covina where at a liquor store, an employee 211 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: tried to stop two guys who were stealing merchandise, which 212 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 2: I would imagine was the booze and he was shot 213 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: to death. 214 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 3: We now know his name is Karan Singh. 215 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: What we do know more of today is that they've 216 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 2: arrested a suspect in his killing, and it's a seventeen 217 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 2: year old. The Los Angeles County DA's office swiftly filed 218 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 2: charges for first degree murder against the teen, who is 219 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 2: from East Los Angeles. They haven't released his name because 220 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: he's a minor. So this brings us to our next subject. 221 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 2: He's going to be charged as an adult. Well, they 222 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 2: brought first degree murder charges against him. That would seem 223 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 2: to be the case, but I don't know whether or 224 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 2: not that gets eventually switched to juvenile court or they 225 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 2: It sounds to me, because he's going to make an 226 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: appearance in the Pomona courthouse, it sounds to me like 227 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: for now he's being charged as an adult. But the 228 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 2: difficulty here is that that's not what George Gascon wants 229 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 2: to do murder cases. He'll probably act like you know, 230 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 2: he wants strong punishment. But then by age twenty five, 231 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 2: the idea is to release these people, these murderers, even 232 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 2: that's what we do in California. 233 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: Right, because if you charge them as a juvenile, then 234 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: they're out of twenty five roughly, right. If you charge 235 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: him as an adult, then they could stay forever. So how's. 236 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 3: We don't know yet? Charging everybody is juveniles. 237 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 2: You could just tell the press that I got first 238 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 2: degree murder charges against him. 239 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 3: But if you're going to take this to juvenile court, 240 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 3: that could be a. 241 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 2: Whole different thing, right then taking him to adult court. 242 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 2: It doesn't say in the story which it is, so 243 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: I'm guessing the promoter courthouse would probably be an adult charge, 244 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 2: but I don't know. 245 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 3: But nevertheless, that leads us. 246 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: To the policies of George Gasconne, conserving juveniles violent juveniles 247 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 2: even and we have another lawsuit against him by a 248 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: Deputy DA, A man by the name of Philip Glaviano, 249 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: has filed a lawsuit against Gascone for retaliation transferring him 250 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: as what described as a less prestigious post and steinying 251 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: his career advancements. This takes us back to the juvenile 252 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: court system because he was head Deputy DA in the 253 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 2: juvenile division before he was transferred, and the reason he 254 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 2: was transferred is he doesn't like Gasconne's policies, which is 255 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: to treat juveniles, even violent ones, with diversion programs. In fact, 256 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 2: this man's predecessor, Deputy District Attorney Sewan Randolph, brought her 257 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: own lawsuit against Gascun's policies. So you can see whoever 258 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 2: heads this juvenile division is told by Gascon or his operatives, 259 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 2: I don't care what the youngster did. Put them in 260 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: a diversion program. And they're like, no, that's not even legal. 261 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: Well see when they do that, then they said, we're 262 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: going to demote you. That seems to be what's going on, right. 263 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: And I guess that's what gives him standing in the 264 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: lawsuit is he was directed to do something illegal and 265 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: then he gets punished for it. That's what he's saying. 266 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: So it's not a case of just hey, you got 267 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: to listen to your boss. It's hey, my boss is 268 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: ordering me to do something that's against the law. I'm 269 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: not going to do it, and then I get to vote. 270 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: Well, his predecessor, I mentioned Deputy District Attorney Sean Randolph. 271 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 2: She won her case. She was awarded one and a 272 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: half million dollars in the first of her two lawsuits, 273 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: so they believed her when she said, I was just 274 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 2: being retaliated against because I objected to these policies of 275 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: just putting violent juveniles into diversion programs. Clear, that's what 276 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 2: went on, and who knows what that means A diversion program. 277 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 3: Well, its counseling, and it's garbage. 278 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: It means a cover story for the media while we 279 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: let all these monsters loose. Gas going wants these guys 280 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: loose on the street, and he doesn't want him incarcerated, 281 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: but he's got to have some kind of cover story. 282 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: And that's all. This is diversion programs. Nobody can ever 283 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: define one, Nobody can explain what it is. Nobody can 284 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: can prove that it works. How would you judge how 285 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: it works? 286 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean it's total not so much. 287 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: Of this is just complete horsecraft, just complete nonsense. All 288 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: these terms that have no definition to them, that have 289 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: no no studies done explaining it to ourn't examples you 290 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: ever see. They never hold a press conference and show, hey, 291 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: you know, here's eight graduates of our diversion program. Each 292 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: one of these eight kill somebody killed somebody. And now 293 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: look what they're doing. They're working on a farm together, 294 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: raising tomatoes and cucumbers. You don't hear any of these stories. 295 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 2: Connected to this, and this could be the death knell 296 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 2: for the La County juvenile detention system. Loose some veto 297 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: to bill that was going to provide a billion and 298 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: a half a billion dollars for infrastructure improvements at La 299 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: County's juvenile halls and camps. See, the question becomes here, 300 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 2: if you have a violent juvenile, don't you still want 301 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 2: them held somewhere or do you want Gascone's approach and 302 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 2: the Board of Supervisor's approach? And what John Justlyn Base did? 303 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 2: Send them to a diversion program. John said, right, send 304 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 2: them to a farm. But they can plant vegetables or something, 305 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: and they learned to work with their hands. 306 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 3: And I'm saying. 307 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: It's it's like when when they talk about rehabilitation programs 308 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: in state prison, the same thing. 309 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 3: What rehabilitation programs? I know always say that too. 310 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: We're gonna release them and put them in a program 311 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 2: where they'll be taken care of her we have locally, 312 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: and sometimes they don't show up or they don't care. 313 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 3: And it's a program. It's a program, it's a program. 314 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 3: I can be hearing that stupid word. What is it? 315 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: What's the success rate here? Why would these work? What 316 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: does it do to a hostile criminal brain? All this 317 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: stuff is internal, it's in their head, their anger, their 318 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: lack of impulse control, they're bad upbringing. It's all inside 319 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: their head. I don't get what it is they're telling 320 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: these people who have damaged brains. 321 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: Oh you'll love this paragraph. There are people that are 322 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 2: being called juvenile justice reform advocates. One of them is 323 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 2: a group called Youth Justice Reimagined. So here's what they're proposing. 324 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 2: They should be a newly created Department of Youth Development 325 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: and we could we could do several things, diversion, intervention 326 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: in home confinement, and how about smaller, safe and secure 327 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 2: healing centers. 328 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: This is nonsense, you know what. I'm sure they must 329 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: test these phrases. Uh, you know, here's the guy that. 330 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 2: Just beats somebody bloody, Let's send him to a healing center. 331 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: Because they think somehow that plays with the public. I'm 332 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: assuming they test this stuff, maybe with focus groups. 333 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 3: But you sound so, I don't know. 334 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 2: Inviting a healing center, well, could be against that exactly. 335 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. 336 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: They come up with phrases where people feel guilty if 337 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: they if they disagree like you, well, there's no there's 338 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: no such thing as a healing center. A healing center, 339 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: that's stupid. What are you against healing? And that's what 340 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: they do. They prey on people's I don't. They're not even. Yeah, 341 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: people want to be on the right side of things. 342 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: They want to be. Oh, I'm compassionate, I'm understanding. I 343 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: believe in chances. I believe in rehabilitation. I believe in redemption. 344 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,239 Speaker 1: Every human being can be saved. And the truth is 345 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: none of that exists. There's no rehabilitation, there's no counseling, 346 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: there's no diversion. These are bad guys, and whether you 347 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: keep them in prison or not, it doesn't matter. Their 348 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: brains are bad, they died, they're fried. They've got issues 349 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: you cannot fix. They had terrible, abusive childhoods, neglected childhoods, 350 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: or they're born crazy, they're born with psychotic issues. 351 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: I will return Johnny Ken kf I AM six forty 352 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: live everywhere I Heartradio app. 353 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 354 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 6: AM six forty. 355 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 2: All right, coming up in the big three o'clock hour, 356 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 2: of course, we'll have two rounds of the moistline. We're 357 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 2: also going to talk about and it's connected to something 358 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 2: that Newsom just did. He signed a couple of bills 359 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 2: dealing with the way California helps and or deals with 360 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: mental illness. And next March, there will be a big 361 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: primary ballot come in your way. There will only be 362 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 2: one statewide ballot measure to vote on, and Newsome made 363 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,239 Speaker 2: sure of that he has cleared the path. You may 364 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 2: have a local ballot measurer too, but as far as 365 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: a statewide vote, there's only going to be one six 366 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 2: billion dollar bond to build more hospitals to do something about. 367 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 3: Our mental care system. That's it. 368 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: He's betting a lot on this. And this bill is 369 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 2: also supposedly going to come up with a new way 370 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 2: to treat people who are incapable of taking care of themselves. 371 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 2: And how many times have we talked about this topic 372 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: when it comes to the almless right, the idea that 373 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 2: somebody is so whacked out on drugs or so mentally 374 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: ill that they need to be taken from the streets 375 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 2: and given proper care. 376 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 3: But we can't do that because of the way our 377 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 3: laws work. 378 00:19:55,840 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 2: Supposedly, this bill also contains a change to that. Anyway, 379 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 2: we're going to talk to the Reverend Andy Bales Union 380 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 2: Rescue Mission after three o'clock about what he thinks about 381 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 2: the chances of this actually working. In some media outlets, 382 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 2: it's being hailed as a big change. Others, of course, 383 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 2: are skeptical, and you'll get into the details. 384 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: You'll always have to be skeptical because so much of 385 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: what they've done sounds good on paper, and then they 386 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: botch it or they've lied about it, and there's no 387 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: trust that most people have. Well, the government announced it's 388 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: a big project, and the thing that keeps saying is 389 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: it's going to be up to the local counties to 390 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: carry this out, to make this work. Maybe a statewide bill, 391 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: but it's going to be up to the local heurisdiction 392 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: are counties to make. 393 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 3: Sure they have the mental hospitals ready. 394 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: The five women who run this county hill the slice. Yeah, 395 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: that genius Jennis Han, right. I mean, so we're going 396 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: to give LA County is going to get a huge 397 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: chunk of that six billion dollars because we're such a 398 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: we're twenty five percent of the states population, so well 399 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: you probably get several billion dollars out of it. And 400 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: then they're the ones who are going to set up 401 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: the mental health hospitals and clinics and all the protocol 402 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: for the program. 403 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 3: They will. 404 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,719 Speaker 2: When I see a number like that, it's over six 405 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: billion dollars, all I can think of, here comes another 406 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 2: industrial complex, right, well, yeah, a lot of money will 407 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 2: be spent and we'll be looking around and there's twice 408 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 2: the homeless. 409 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 3: People in five years are like what was that about? Yeah? 410 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: Right, and then twenty years from now, if we're not 411 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: all dead, we're going to read a story in whatever 412 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: replaces the La Times. It's like, well, that lend mark 413 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four bill to spend six billion dollars twenty 414 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: years later turns out to be a huge disappointment and failure. 415 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 2: All right, now listen to this and I like the 416 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 2: way this is put in the story. California's enjoying a 417 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 2: relatively calm wildfire season this year. Did anybody notice not 418 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 2: a lot of coverage of this? Nielson can do Times 419 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 2: and a lot of news outlets, because this is kind 420 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 2: of good news in a front where they only want. 421 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 3: To give you bad news. Right, well, the drought, the 422 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 3: climate change. 423 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 2: Fires, it doesn't they're not they're not paying a bunch 424 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 2: of test. The number of acres burned so far this 425 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: year is less than one third of our five year average. 426 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 3: How about that for a stat. 427 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: And right, they don't have a hook to lie to 428 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: us and try to frighten us. 429 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 3: What are they supposed to do? 430 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: We were supposed to have endless heat waves and endless 431 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: drought two years ago. 432 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,479 Speaker 3: That's what they were. Snow fires, right, and then all 433 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 3: the fire seasons all year round. 434 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: Now, folks, we had a very cool year and we 435 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: had a very wet year, and the ingredients for fire 436 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: just not there. 437 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 2: Right, That is what the Department of Forestry and Fire 438 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 2: Protection is saying, historic winter storms. 439 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: How many atmospheric rivers was it? Well, we ended up 440 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: a record snowpack in the middle of August. We ended 441 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: up getting what three four inches of rain? Yes, so 442 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: we couldn't even they couldn't even dry out if they 443 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: were drying out from the winter, and they got resoaked 444 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: in August. 445 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 2: But this quickly turns around because now we're gonna have 446 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 2: ample vegetation growth and that can be new fuel for 447 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 2: new fires. And the fall winds could still be approaching us. 448 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,239 Speaker 2: But Santa Ana is now already it's already mid October. 449 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 3: I know. 450 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 2: But they think Santata's go into January. They say that 451 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: that is the possibility. 452 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: Most most of the fire season that I can remember 453 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: is August to early November. 454 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 2: Oh, it seems like the last few years we kept 455 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 2: hearing more up north than down here. 456 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, they tried, they tried selling the year round fire season. 457 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: Uh that that that that OAF Jerry Brown and Chilly Schwartzenegger. Schwartzenegger, 458 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: they're already selling the year around fire season. 459 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 3: That hasn't happened. That was a lie. 460 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: That was propaganda. That was hype because what they want 461 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: to do is justify how they're trying to control your lives, 462 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: get you out of your cars, tax you to death. 463 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: So gas is six dollars a gallon, you know, make 464 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: you write bicycles to work. That that was all part 465 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: of the cycle logical warfare that they engage in. 466 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 3: So they talk to you. 467 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 2: You Safford, who's the chief scientist, I like this a 468 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 2: Vibrant Planet and faculty of the UC Davis Department of 469 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 2: Environmental Science and Policy. So he's chief scientist, had something 470 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 2: called vibrant Planet, and then he's on the faculty at 471 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,959 Speaker 2: you see Davis. And he said this with very simple 472 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 2: common sense. I tend not to give much credence to 473 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 2: the idea that single events and single summers or winters 474 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 2: can be ascribed to climate change. They're not which is 475 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 2: what they always try to get us to believe anytime 476 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 2: there's a fire or we don't have water for a 477 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 2: few miles. 478 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's the other things. 479 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: Again, they're not they're not said, there's no there's no 480 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: connection between these one shot events and climate change. 481 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 3: There simply isn't. 482 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 1: And they've tried, but but ultimately, every time the scientists 483 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: do a review of the of the of the whole 484 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: situation right regarding fire seasons, and and and and the mechanism, 485 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: what what is it in climate change that would lead 486 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: to a fire season or would lead to a usually 487 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: dry or wet weather. They've never been able to draw 488 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 1: the map. They've never been able to figure it out 489 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: because it probably doesn't exist. 490 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 2: So he also said California has the highest inter annual 491 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 2: theiriability and precipitation of any state in the US. It 492 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 2: is normal to go from a record wet year to 493 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: a record or nearly record dry year. 494 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 3: And that's just the way it is, you know what. 495 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 2: So there's the simple truth that but everybody reacts year 496 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: to year. And now, of course they're selling us, Oh, 497 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 2: it rains so much, there's going to be so much 498 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 2: vegetation that will burn this next year. 499 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 3: Well, it's not going to these people. 500 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: It's gotten very difficult in the internet era, where news 501 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: sites are judged by how many hits they get. You 502 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: never used to see these articles during the print era, 503 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: because no single article would be responsible for the sales 504 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: of a newspaper, you know, outside of some catastrophic event, right, 505 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: nobody bought the paper the next day to read about 506 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: the climate story. Now they're trying to gin up fake 507 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: climate news in order to get hits from those emotionally 508 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: stunted people who are have been mentally disturbed by the 509 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: climate news. We talked yesterday about eco therapists, climate cafes, 510 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: climate cafes, and you meet eco therapists and I guess 511 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: presumably you pay them hundreds of dollars an hour to 512 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: work out all your climate angst. 513 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, your anxiety and stress over the climate in your future. 514 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: And this affects young people in their twenties who have 515 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: been brainwashed by all these these buffoons in their colleges 516 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: and high schools that somehow the climate has been destroyed. 517 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 3: Of course, no such thing has happened. 518 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: But again, you know, like you see the protesters in 519 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: the streets right railing about the Israelis and railing about Islam. 520 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: They have been indoctrinated since they were children with this 521 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: apocalyptic religion that the climate is about to is about 522 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: to malfunction to the point that we all die, And 523 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: so they walk around, We're. 524 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 3: Going to die today, it's a little dw warm today, 525 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 3: I'm going to die. 526 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: And now they're going to therapists to try to undo, like, 527 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: you know, fifteen. 528 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 3: Or twenty years of this nonsense. 529 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 2: And even if that works, they'll find something else to 530 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 2: fret about, because this is the way some people are built. 531 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. No, and there's always have some apocalypse to worry 532 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 3: about it. There is always. 533 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 1: Money in selling an apocalypse. How many religions were created, 534 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: how many preachers made fortunes, television preachers, and it was 535 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: all about apocalypse. It's all about, Hey, we're going to hell. 536 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: We're all sinners, we've all offended God. We're all going 537 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: to go to hell. You'll have to give me money 538 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: and so I can continue my mission to get us 539 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: all redeemed in the eyes of God. It's down instead 540 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 1: of a religion with a god and a church, now 541 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: it's about the climate. It's about Mother Nature being offended 542 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: and striking back at us with bad weather. It's absolutely 543 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: a religion, a religious phenomenon, nothing else. 544 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 2: All Right, we're coming up johny Ken I AM six 545 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 2: forty live everywhere iHeartRadio app. 546 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 547 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 6: AM six forty. 548 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 3: Well, you know one thing we don't have as much 549 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 3: of any Moore, and I guess it's a good thing. 550 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 3: I don't think we do. Serial killers. 551 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 2: It was a big thing in the sixties and seventies 552 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 2: and even into the eighties. 553 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 3: Serial killers. They had names. 554 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 2: Well that's what we're talking about, the Sunset Strip Killers. 555 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 3: They had trademarks. 556 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 2: Douglas Daniel Clark was one half of a duo. This 557 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 2: was a man and a woman who became known as 558 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 2: the Sunset Strip Killers. Seventy five years old, he of 559 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: course was on death row, but in California, nobody's executed 560 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 2: forty years on death row. He died of natural causes. 561 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: But the story is really creepy. His co murderer was 562 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 2: Carol Bundy. According to LA magazine. Yeah, not related to 563 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 2: Ted Bundy. 564 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 3: I looked it up. 565 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 2: Not related just to real incidents of the last name. Yes, 566 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 2: Carol Bundy. She died in two thousand and three, by 567 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 2: the way, so that she met her fate years ago, 568 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 2: I probably of heart failure. 569 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 3: They met in late. 570 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 2: Nineteen seventy nine and they had a worldwood romance. Despite 571 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 2: Clark's increasingly sadistic desires, he killed his first victim, Marnette Comer, 572 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 2: in early June of eighty. 573 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 3: She was a runaway. 574 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 2: Basically, they went after people who worked in the sex 575 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 2: trade or runaway women, and they murdered them. He killed 576 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 2: his next two victims, teenage stepsisters. The two had lived 577 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 2: in Huntington Beach, but the remains were found near Highway 578 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 2: one on one in the la area. He confessed to 579 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 2: Bundy about the murders and invited her to take part 580 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 2: in subsequent killings, and sure enough she did. Two more 581 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 2: young women were killed. Where do you get a girlfriend 582 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 2: like that? Bundy would go on to murder and to 583 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 2: capitate her ex boyfriend, John Robert Murray. So she threw 584 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 2: a guy in there just for good to She was 585 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 2: a vocational nurse. 586 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 3: I'll do anything for you, honey. Would you kill for me? 587 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 6: Yes? 588 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 3: I would kill for you. 589 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: Now I want to stop and tell you that it's 590 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 2: going to be very difficult to read the next part. 591 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 2: But apparently Bundy would go on to murder and to 592 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 2: capitate her ex boyfriend. She confess to the coworkers about 593 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 2: the killings. The pair was arrested shortly thereafter. During the 594 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 2: police investigation, this is the woman now, Carol Bundy testified 595 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 2: in a deposition that this murderer, Clark, had necrophilia and 596 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 2: that he kept one of his victims, Exy Wilson's head 597 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 2: in a freezer for sexual purposes. 598 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 3: That's if it's just ahead. No, no, no, no, I 599 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 3: don't have to imagine too much. 600 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 2: No, that was about Oh, I told you it'd be difficult. Yes, 601 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 2: he kept her head in a freezer for sexual purpose. 602 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 3: Well, that same woman's head. 603 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,959 Speaker 1: Was was found inside a wooden box. 604 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 3: I guess they eventually discarded it. Yeah, I see, I guess. 605 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: After first the head was in the freezer and then 606 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: the head was in the in the wooden box. 607 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, they threw a time to throw it away. Wow. 608 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: One of the victims' bodies was found behind a Burbank steakhouse, 609 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: which one Oh have we been there? I? 610 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 3: Wow? I never heard of this guy. No, I didn't 611 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 3: you see his eye patch picture? 612 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's this old, balding guy with a white 613 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: beard and a black eye patch on his left eye. 614 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Douglas Daniel Clark. 615 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 2: In fact, I can't say, but I wasn't living here 616 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 2: that I didn't know about the Sunset Strip killers. 617 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: No, I've never heard of this, this guy, this woman. 618 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: Everybody knows like, uh, well famous eighty three man, it's over, 619 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: it's forty years ago. 620 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 2: That's why I said, Serrah killers are like, well, you'm 621 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 2: glad a dying breed. You just don't hear too much 622 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 2: about this anymore. 623 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he was. He was on death row 624 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 3: when they were still occasionally killing people. 625 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 2: He was admitted to death row in March twenty fourth, 626 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty three. But I guess his number never came 627 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 2: up because we stopped executing people back in six. Because 628 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: remember I think there was Tookie, and I think Tooki's 629 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 2: murders were like nineteen seventy nine. 630 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 3: Or something like that. 631 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 2: So it's something he was in line. It's about your 632 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 2: appeals running out, you know, and that kind of thing. 633 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 2: But the unusual thing about this is that a woman teamed. 634 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 3: Up with them. 635 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: That's unusual that ye little nurse no less, she apparently 636 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 2: went along and I'm sure a defense was Oh he 637 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 2: manipulated me and he intimidated me. 638 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 3: I don't know what it did, is I mean, obviously 639 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 3: she was sentenced to but. 640 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: She went after She went after the ex boyfriend though, 641 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: and chopped his head off. 642 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, well oh yeah, but you really got to pay 643 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 3: attention to you go dating. 644 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 2: He was convicted of after break first three murder, one 645 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 2: count of attempted murder, and yes, one count of mutilation 646 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 2: slash sexual contact with human remains, and then he went 647 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 2: on death row, but he died. It doesn't just says 648 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 2: they believe it's natural cause you know. 649 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 3: And a lot of them were in the in California too. Yeah, 650 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 3: they seem to have been, don't they. What is it about? 651 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 3: Because this, this actually, this this, this whole. 652 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: Killing spree goes back to I mean when I was a. 653 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 2: Kid, the Boston Strangler, but that you know, that was 654 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 2: not a California thing. 655 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 3: But like the Knights Talker and. 656 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: You mentioned that, you know, it used to be in 657 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: the sixties and seventies. Well this this, this was in 658 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies seventies and it got started into the eighties. 659 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 3: So what was it about that era? In California. 660 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: You had all those cults you had, you know, the 661 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: Manson family, you had send being these liberation army in 662 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: Patty Hurst. 663 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 3: There's a wild time. 664 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you had all you know, the Zodiac killer. Right 665 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 1: and see now you as at the time the la times. 666 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: Things are better now John, you're going back to some 667 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: horrible murderers. 668 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 3: Days you don't have that. 669 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, now, yeah, we just get lots of individual murders, all. 670 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 2: Right, Uh, dibitydo knew some made a big deal of 671 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 2: signing a Senate bill number forty three this week, and 672 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: it's supposed to change the terms for somebody to be 673 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 2: taken in under conservatorship. What are we talking about here? 674 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 2: The homeless, those considered gravely disabled, which by my eyes 675 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:39,760 Speaker 2: is really all of them. 676 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: But you cannot provide basic personal needs or you're mentally incompetent. 677 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: That would account for a great majority of the vagrants 678 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: living in the streets. 679 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,280 Speaker 2: So supposedly this is going to get them off the streets, 680 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 2: even if they refuse to accept because of mental illness 681 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,479 Speaker 2: or addiction they refused to achieve. 682 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 3: If they refuse really, well we'll see. 683 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Union Rescue Mission CEO Andy 684 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 2: Bales after the news because obviously he's right there at 685 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 2: ground zero in this kind of story. John and Ken 686 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 2: KFI AM six forty Live everywhere, iHeartRadio. 687 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: App, Deborah Mark live in the CAFI twenty four hour Newsroom. 688 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 3: Hey, you've been listening to the John and Ken Show. 689 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 2: You can always hear us live on KFI AM six 690 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 2: forty one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday, 691 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 2: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.