1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Ron Anian, and I thought about it that it's pink 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: and I just can't get over this and it's pink, 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: and I just I'm like, you know, it looks like 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: a bottle of pepto bismol with four tires going down 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: the road. 6 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: I mean, there's just there's. 7 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 3: Just no other way to say it. It's this pink thing. 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 2: The car Doctor, what's that mean? 9 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 4: Run today? 10 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 5: Cut some kind of thing over the cash or Well. 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, a coated rotor has a protective coating onto the 12 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 6: rotor itself so that it won't rot and rust the 13 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 6: parts that aren't you know, not the breakepad area, but 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 6: the non breakpad area. 15 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 5: Welcome to the radio home of ron Aian, the Car Doctor. 16 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 5: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the 17 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,959 Speaker 5: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive. If 18 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 5: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the 19 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 5: phone and call in. 20 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: The garage doors. 21 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 6: Are opening, but I am here to take your calls 22 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 6: at eight five five five six oh ninety. 23 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: Nine hundred and now he. 24 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 6: Running. Okay, I think we should start. I should start 25 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 6: by telling you this story right before we go to 26 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 6: the phones. So I got a phone call this week 27 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 6: and it was it kind of was that, Oh help 28 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 6: me car, doctor, please, I'm stuck on the side of 29 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 6: the road. Phone call a certain member of the staff 30 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 6: that we shall remain nameless. And his twenty fifteen FOURD 31 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 6: escape was overheated. At three hundred and seventy seven thousand miles, 32 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 6: it's allowed to do anything at wants. Tom's car has 33 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 6: been through the war, and the higher miology was he 34 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 6: was overheating, and he called me and we talked our 35 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 6: way through it, and I said, you know, there's some 36 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 6: kind of a cool leak. Tom, I can't exactly see 37 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 6: where it is over the phone here, but you got 38 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 6: to get. 39 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: It down to me. 40 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 6: He got it down to me, and I did a 41 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 6: deep dive. You know, at three hundred seventy thousand plus miles, 42 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 6: they can be a lot of things. There's a lot 43 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 6: you have to stop and consider. And it's hard right 44 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 6: for Tom's got a two liter escape. It's the engine 45 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 6: compartment is very crowded. It's difficult to see exactly where 46 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 6: it was down on the right front corner. The only 47 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 6: thing over there short of the hose that leads up 48 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 6: to the cool and overflow bottle, or the cool and 49 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 6: overflow tank itself, or the expansion tank, whatever we want 50 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 6: to call it out of the fourteen names that we 51 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 6: give things in this industry. The plastic tank in the 52 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 6: right front corner, short of that hose is the water 53 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 6: pump itself. And I couldn't see much of anything else. 54 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 6: You know, I don't have X ray vision. I went 55 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 6: out to the auto's own website. I went out to 56 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 6: AutoZone pro dot com, and I was able to look 57 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 6: at the pump all right, and see they showed three 58 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,839 Speaker 6: different views of it. They showed the front, the back 59 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 6: of the side. You know they'll they'll show things in 60 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 6: a parts picture. And to see where the wi pole 61 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 6: was all right, and you know the wee pole is 62 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 6: where when the seal has gone bad, you can you'll 63 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 6: see cool it come out of it. Well, at least 64 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 6: I knew where to look, so I took a mirror. 65 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 6: After seeing that on the AutoZone Pro website, I took 66 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 6: a mirror and I put it down under the pump. 67 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 6: I pulled the pulley right. I put the mirror down 68 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 6: under found the vent because now I'm working backwards upside 69 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 6: down because there's no room to look at anything here, 70 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 6: and we used a We basically pressurized the cooling system 71 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 6: all right. We pulled the bottle out from the corner, 72 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 6: put an adapter on, pressurized that and you could hear 73 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 6: the hiss. But you know, the concern was, is it 74 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 6: something mechanical? 75 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: Is it? Is it? You know, is it? 76 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 6: Did the engine just fail at that mile? I've never 77 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 6: seen an escape go three hundred and seventy seven thousand miles, 78 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 6: So bottom line, it was it was the event because 79 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 6: I actually took my finger and I'm listening to it hiss, 80 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 6: I'm here, and I put my finger right in the 81 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 6: hole and it just stopped hissing. And Tom needed a 82 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 6: water pump. Called up AutoZone because now we're on the clock. 83 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 6: We gotta get Tom back on the road. He's he's 84 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 6: breathing over my shoulder like I gotta go, I gotta go, 85 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 6: I gotta go. And you know Tom keeps radio stations 86 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 6: on the air. It's sort of a national emergency situation, 87 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 6: I guess in a sense, no kidding, And AutoZone was 88 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 6: right there. They brought us a pump. We by the 89 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 6: time we had it apart, they had the pump there. 90 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 6: We put them together and he's back out on the 91 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 6: road again. And that's you're in the shop story this 92 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 6: week for AutoZone because autozonepro dot com, you know, if 93 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 6: they're right there to support us mechanics and keep us busy. 94 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 6: And even Tom was impressed with their speed. But yeah, 95 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 6: true story from the bay. The next thing we have 96 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 6: to figure out, though, is we're trying to do the math. 97 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 6: We want to know how many times because I measured 98 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 6: it's a six inch water pump pulley. It's an eight 99 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 6: inch crank pulley three hundred and seventy seven thousand miles. 100 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 6: Tom said it's got fifty eight and twenty hours on it, 101 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 6: I think is what he told me. We want to 102 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 6: know how many times that water pump spun around at 103 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 6: three hundred and seventy seven thousand miles. 104 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 7: Well, rough basic math came out to be about six 105 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 7: hundred and sixty million times. So now we have to 106 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 7: add the differential between the pulleys. We also have to 107 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 7: figure in how long did I sit in traffic idoling? 108 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 7: You know, I mean, there's a whole bunch of stuff 109 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 7: that comes into this. 110 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: It sounds like it's you know, it's funny Tome. 111 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 6: I was watching Hidden Figures last night on TV and 112 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 6: they were trying to figure out John Glenn's orbit and 113 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 6: they were trying to plug in these unknown numbers. I said, 114 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 6: this is like trying to figure out Tom's water pump rotation. 115 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 6: You know, we're gonna be doing advanced calculus on a 116 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 6: water pump revolution timetable just to figure out, just to 117 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 6: figure out, you know, because we're just curious how many miles, 118 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 6: how many how many rotations did that pump go through 119 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 6: before the bearing, and the bearing didn't fail, the seal 120 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 6: just wore itself out. So absolutely amazing, but true story 121 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 6: from the Bay AutoZone does it again? 122 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 7: That was that was impressive. Yeah, almost as impressive as 123 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 7: the big pink glow I saw over our automotive is. 124 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 7: I was coming into the place. 125 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 6: What is it with everybody and the fascination with this 126 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 6: pink Volkswagen thing? 127 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 7: I don't know, but I sent pictures to several friends 128 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 7: and they all said the same thing, We want it. 129 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 7: How much does the guy want for it? 130 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: Well, and yeah, I don't get it. 131 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 6: And the sad part is, you know, we just we 132 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 6: just did a breakup grade so it now has disc 133 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 6: brakes and bigger drum breaks on the back, and it 134 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,799 Speaker 6: just it'll stop on a time. It won't go faster 135 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 6: than forty miles an hour because it's still got the 136 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 6: original engine in it, you know. And my answer was, 137 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 6: if you want to make it stop better, let's just 138 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 6: put a quick release on the engine. We'll drop the 139 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 6: engine out of it. It'll slow it down like an anchor, 140 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 6: and the car I'll come to an immediate hole. 141 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 7: But well, let's give our listeners a quick, quick, little 142 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 7: behind the scenes glance at the car. 143 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 8: Doctor. 144 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 7: Now, I put the opens together every week, and I 145 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 7: usually I have to choose the clips we use, and 146 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 7: that's I'll either pick it with something funny you say, 147 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 7: or something real precise you say, or whatever, and then 148 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 7: I try to match music to it. So this week 149 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 7: I said, let me see if they're are any songs 150 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 7: about volkswagens. And you'd be surprised how many songs there 151 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 7: are about volkswagons. And that mentioned Volkswagen. But what really 152 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 7: impressed me was I found this. 153 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 8: God drives the Volkswagen fame, God drives the volkswag You know. 154 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 6: We we just found out right, we're gonna have we're 155 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 6: gonna have a calls at this era. We've got somebody 156 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 6: from Maine told us that in their church bulletin they 157 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 6: mentioned the car doctor and for advice and gave out 158 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 6: the phone number. And Tom sent me a note. He said, look, 159 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 6: God listens to the car doctor, and I said, of 160 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 6: course he does. Now I know why because he needs 161 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 6: somebody to fix his thing. All right, it's a Volkswagen. 162 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 6: You know, he's looking, he's looking down going. Look I 163 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 6: found a guy that can still work on a Volkswagen thing. 164 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 6: It's just so in any event, let me let me 165 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 6: can I go to David in Virginia and get the 166 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 6: phones going? David Virginia, thanks for putting up with us today. 167 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 6: We're a little off, a little off topic. But twelve 168 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 6: Honda Civic, how can I up you, sir? 169 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 8: Yes, yes, a friend of mine. He's a recent roommate 170 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 8: and he works at a prison which is about forty 171 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 8: five minute drive. So I think it was Wednesday, Tuesday, 172 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 8: Tuesday morning, you know, he has to be at work 173 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 8: at like six point thirty. He gets up, starts his 174 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 8: car and it's the battery light comes on and there's 175 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 8: some funky noise. So Anyway, it's really early in the morning, 176 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 8: so he just sits there for like an hour until 177 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 8: the dealership opens. He calls his parents. They live in Texas. 178 00:08:52,520 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 8: He moved up from Texas recently, and so his parents said, 179 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 8: take it to the dealership and we're talking to you 180 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 8: know what, eleven year old car. Okay, So he takes 181 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 8: it to the dealership and they say, oh, yeah, your 182 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 8: alternator is bad, your batteries not good. And they made 183 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 8: a bunch of other recommendations work, which she declined. But 184 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 8: he just wanted to get on the red so he 185 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 8: can get to work because he's going through training at 186 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 8: this prison, so he can't miss work, gotcha. So long story, Stewart. 187 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 8: They call back and they say, okay, this is going 188 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 8: to cost you at least fourteen And he calls his 189 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 8: parents because his parents are helping him out pay the bill, 190 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 8: and they say, yeah, go ahead. 191 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 9: You know it's a dealership, you know, they always do 192 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 9: good work. 193 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 8: The alternator by itself, just the part was eight hundred 194 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 8: and seventy dollars right twenty twelve Civic all right, which 195 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 8: I thought was outrageous. 196 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 6: Well, I looked on it's probably it's probably new from Honda, 197 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 6: not a reman, all right, Typical. Typically, I can't say 198 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 6: exactly what a twelve civic alternator is worth brand new 199 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 6: out of a dealer, but I'm going to tell you 200 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 6: the majority of alternators, if we were to price them 201 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 6: and we stopped pricing them a new out of the 202 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 6: dealer on older cars, is is it justified? Because you're 203 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 6: going to find there somewhere between six and eight hundred bucks. 204 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 6: So that's that's kind of in the ballgame. Let's break 205 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 6: it down like this. You know, David, I realize it's 206 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 6: a shock, but let's let's throw an hour with diagnosis. 207 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 6: Can we agree on that? Because answers don't Answers just 208 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 6: don't fall. Answers don't fall out of the tree. What's 209 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 6: the dealer gooft for a labor rate? One hundred and 210 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 6: fifty two hundred. 211 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 9: Total labor rate was like three fifty, yes, all right? 212 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: But what do they get per hour? You got to 213 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: break it down. 214 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 9: You're probably in the ballpark. 215 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 6: So let's say let's say, yeah, let's say it's one 216 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 6: hundred and fifty, all right, So it's one hundred and 217 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 6: fifty to diagnose, it's an hour to change the alternator? 218 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 6: Give or take, and we'll throw the battery into Let's 219 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 6: say it's an hour to change the battery and the alternator. 220 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 6: That's two hours altogether. There's three hundred. The alternator, knew 221 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 6: out of the Honda dealer is eight hundred. There's eleven. 222 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 6: All right, did they put a belt on it, did 223 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 6: they change attention, or did they do anything. 224 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 8: Else they did in an inspection? 225 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 6: Okay, so maybe the inspection was worth one hundred dollars. 226 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 2: There's twelve. The bill was. 227 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 8: Fourteen we're not fourty three. 228 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, there were sales tax, right, we're not too far 229 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 6: off the mark guessing. 230 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 9: Okay, yeah, it's wow. 231 00:11:59,640 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 232 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 6: Now now yeah, cars are expensive. Now, well, go price 233 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 6: a new one, right, go go go price a replacement vehicle. 234 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 8: Now. 235 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 6: Having said that, Okay, I'll tell you what, Dave, let 236 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 6: me pull over, take a pause. We'll finish up on 237 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 6: the other side when I come back. Don't go away, 238 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 6: all right, I'm running aiding in the car doctor. We'll 239 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 6: both be back right after this. Don't go anywhere you. 240 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: Need advice on how to maintain that classic gt O. 241 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: Ron is the guy eight five five five six zero 242 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: nine nine zero zero. Here's Ron. David you're still there, sir, 243 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 2: Yes I am. So let me. 244 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 6: Start out by saying, you know, I'm not here to 245 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 6: beat you up. I'm trying to let me I'm just 246 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 6: trying to make a point and see if I can 247 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 6: help you understand and get a little more comfortable with 248 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 6: the car repair. All right, So let's just be two 249 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 6: guys talking, right. So, oh, you know your your friend 250 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 6: with the with the Honda with with the alternator. Could 251 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 6: he have gotten it done cheaper? 252 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 8: Yeah? 253 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 2: Probably. 254 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 6: I don't think he would have saved anything on labor, 255 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 6: because can we agree that any time you have a 256 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 6: problem with the car, it's got to be diagnosed, right, 257 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 6: unless you want to take the chance and throw parts 258 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 6: at it. So maybe he would have saved one hundred 259 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 6: and fifty bucks. In our example, we're saying it's one 260 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 6: hundred and fifty to diagnose, one hundred and fifty to 261 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 6: replace the part. So maybe he would have saved one 262 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 6: hundred and fifty bucks. Now he could have opted for 263 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 6: a cheaper alternator, all right. There's I guarantee you there 264 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 6: are after market replacements of rebuilt alternators, you know, two three, 265 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 6: four hundred dollars. There's probably new alternators after market available 266 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 6: three four hundred dollars things like that. You can always 267 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 6: find a cheaper part. 268 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 8: I actually look at autosone, like autoisone, right, Yeah, it 269 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 8: was like two hundred and twenty five dollars, right, so 270 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 8: I guess it was probably used. 271 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 6: Or it's a reman, all right, And there's nothing wrong 272 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 6: with that. It's it's just to what level. You know, 273 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 6: cars are a lifestyle. To what level does he want 274 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 6: to fix it? And where's his point of comfort? You know, 275 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 6: it's the weekend, David, You're going out. 276 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: To eat this weekend? 277 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 6: Are you gonna Are you gonna go? Pick a restaurant? 278 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 6: And then you know, why do you go to that 279 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 6: restaurant and not the other restaurant? You know, it's it's 280 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 6: it's it's it's like it's it's it's price, or it's 281 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 6: isn't some of it though when we go out to eat, 282 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 6: isn't some of it? The service, the taste of the food, 283 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 6: the smell of the place, the environment, the experience, right yeah. 284 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 8: And yeah, well yeah, or I just felt like he 285 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 8: was taking advantage of him because he's a twenty five 286 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 8: year old kid. 287 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 6: Well, I think somebody should have explained options to him. Maybe, 288 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 6: but by the same token, some of that is on him, 289 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 6: as I'm not picking on him either. But you know, 290 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 6: we've got to sort of teach the next generation how 291 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 6: to ask the critical questions, and we haven't done that. 292 00:14:59,120 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: You know. 293 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: It's it's you know, I agree with that, you know, 294 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: can he Is there a cheaper way to do this? 295 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 8: Harol. 296 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 6: I'll tell you a quick story before I let you go. 297 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 6: I had a woman called the shop this week. I 298 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 6: keep talking to Cheryl. Haven't worked for her yet, but 299 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 6: I keep getting. 300 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 2: To talk to her. 301 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 6: She's got a thirteen land Rover. Think about this now, 302 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 6: she's driving a twenty thirteen land Rover. It's an eleven 303 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 6: going on twelve year old land Rover right, an l 304 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 6: R four, and she's looking for somebody to work on it. 305 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 6: Her previous mechanic went out of business, and the next 306 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 6: line accompanied after that was but he was really cheap. 307 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 6: There's a problem with working on a vehicle really cheap, 308 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 6: because can you ever get to afford to be in 309 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 6: business long enough to take care of that customer long term? 310 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 2: Do you see my point? You can't. You can't have both. 311 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 2: You can't, you know? 312 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 6: And he his rent went up and he didn't own 313 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 6: the building, and after working with her for twenty five years, 314 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 6: twenty five years, he couldn't make enough of a. 315 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: Living to buy a building. So wow, right, where's that 316 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 2: point of cheap? Now? 317 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 6: She had a hard time understanding why it was so 318 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 6: expensive for anybody to work on a land Rover. And 319 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 6: I kept pointing out, it's a land Rover, it's twelve 320 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 6: years old, it's got miles on it. My god, when 321 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 6: the suspension system fails on one of those, it's ten grand, 322 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 6: you know, it's it's a land Rover. 323 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 8: We're I'm talking about it, right. 324 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 6: We're not talking about a Toyota Camry. We're talking about 325 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 6: a land Rover. You know, this is like, this is 326 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 6: like the customer I talked to this week, and I'm 327 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 6: explaining what's wrong with the car and why was it 328 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 6: so expensive to fix? 329 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 2: David? 330 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 6: No, Lie, the car was on fire, all right. The 331 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 6: valve cover was leaking so bad. The oil dripped out 332 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 6: the back of the valve cover on this eight Dodge 333 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 6: Avenger right onto the exhaust manifold and it caught fire. 334 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 6: And I kept saying, but it was on fire again. 335 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 6: The car was up in flames, and you got the 336 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 6: fire put out. I showed her the picture where the 337 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 6: husband had used the fire ex thing. We're sure to 338 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 6: put the fire out like the car was on fire. 339 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 6: It's a land rover. 340 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: You know. 341 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 6: The problem is nobody ever sits and explains it to people. 342 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 6: I get your sticker shock, I get your buddy's sticker shock. 343 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 6: You know it's it's cars really are a lifestyle. There 344 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 6: are cheaper alternatives, all right, there's other ways that this 345 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 6: could have been handled. What I think you've got to 346 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 6: look at is he's safe, right. You know, cars breaking 347 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 6: down on the road are are are a dangerous thing 348 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 6: today because there's a lot of bad things that happen 349 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 6: on the road. The road is a very unforgiving place. 350 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,479 Speaker 6: I recently replaced my wife's twenty eighteen Ford Explorer. Somebody 351 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 6: said why it only had fifty six thousand miles on it. 352 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 6: I said, because she's going to start to travel to 353 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 6: go see the grand baby six hours away. I want 354 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 6: her in something as new as it can be, because 355 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 6: I don't want her to have a problem on the road. 356 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 6: Because the road is a very unforgiving place, and you 357 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 6: have to realize that that's it. That's all I got David. 358 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 6: I hope I helped you understand it better. I appreciate 359 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 6: your openness and something to think about. So good luck 360 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 6: to you, and keep us post that I'm run a 361 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 6: needing the Car Doctors. 362 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: We're back right after this. 363 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 6: Welcome back Ron Ding the Car Doctor, at your service 364 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 6: at eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 365 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 6: Keep in mind we are expanding the YouTube channel, and 366 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 6: if you're looking for more information you want to hear 367 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 6: this show again, don't forget to get out and look 368 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 6: for the podcast wherever podcast players are found. Let's go 369 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 6: over and talk to Brian in Minnesota. Brian, Welcome to 370 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 6: the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help? 371 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 8: Hello? 372 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 4: Ron, Yes, sir, and there I've got I've got a 373 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 4: two thousand and eight guy. Play it's my son's vehicle. 374 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 4: About it this past spring, got two hundred and twenty 375 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 4: some thousand miles on it, extremely well, extremely well maintained 376 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 4: here or four overall. But as we know, things happen anyway. Yep, 377 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 4: it this is entirely intermittent. First happened a little over 378 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 4: a month ago. It's happened a couple of times since. 379 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 4: Where uh, it seems like maybe half of the cylinders 380 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 4: are cutting out. At least at least a couple of 381 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 4: them loses power dramatically. Check check engine light comes on, 382 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 4: traction control light will come on, and I think that 383 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 4: one might wink. 384 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 2: See zero five is it? 385 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 6: Is it setting a zero five sixty one? 386 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 4: It's setting up P eleven seventy four. 387 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 2: Okay. 388 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 4: And also the the tire pressure light will come on, 389 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 4: and then the tack will drop as well. 390 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:09,959 Speaker 2: Okay. 391 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 6: And then what do you do to what do you 392 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 6: do to get rid of it? 393 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 9: Nothing? 394 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 4: You can shut it off, wait a little bit and 395 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 4: it'll be just fine. 396 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 8: I had it. 397 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 4: He was back home here and you know, a month 398 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 4: or so ago, and he I had we had a service. 399 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 4: He went back to the cities, back on to the 400 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 4: Twin Cities. So he went one hundred and fifty miles. 401 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 4: He probably went one hundred total, about one hundred and 402 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 4: seventy miles with smoother driving. And the next morning he 403 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 4: calls me up and here are the things acting out. 404 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 4: Since then, it's done it maybe three other times, and 405 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 4: it did it last weekend. It's actually at a shop. 406 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 4: Great now you're kind of bewildered by it. By it. 407 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 4: He drove one hundred and fifty miles here to the house. 408 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 4: It was just fine. I get in it to drive 409 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 4: it to the shop five miles away and it's doing it. 410 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 4: Two days later, mechanic gets in it and it's just fine. 411 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 6: Okay, let's talk about the eleven. Yeah, it's it's, it's 412 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 6: it's it's it's random, right, It's just it's just so 413 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 6: random and intermittent. 414 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 4: So it is. And it's like flipping a switch, right, 415 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 4: It's not something that kind of goes into It's like 416 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 4: flipping a switch. 417 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 6: Okay, So you know, naturally, i'd love to see it 418 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 6: on a scanner. And you know, can I catch can 419 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 6: I look at fuel trim? Can I You know, I 420 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 6: could sit here and for five minutes, you know, uh, Brian, 421 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 6: and give you all these things to look at. But 422 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 6: if if, if it happens in the blink of an eye, 423 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 6: it's it's so whenever I get one like this, I 424 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 6: want to triage it, right, I want to get I 425 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 6: want to get to the middle of the problem as 426 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 6: fast as I can. So you know, if a shop's 427 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 6: working on it, the first thing I want to do 428 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 6: is screw fuel pressure gauge on it. I don't care 429 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 6: how they do it. I don't care if there isn't 430 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 6: a port, make a tool, make an adapter or whatever. 431 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 6: I went through that this week with an O three 432 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 6: Mercury sable that I discovered needed a fuel pump. But 433 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 6: when I went to lift it, there was no rockers 434 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 6: left because the floor pan's gone. So we're going to 435 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 6: junk the car, which is a whole other conversation for 436 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 6: a different day. But my point is, you know, screw 437 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 6: fuel pressure gauge on it. Most vehicles, it takes about 438 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 6: seven minutes tape it to the windshield and let it 439 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 6: stay there. That's why God made duct. 440 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 2: Tape this way. At least this way, at least. 441 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 6: We can see eleven seventy four is an imbalance and 442 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 6: air fuel mixture between cylinders on bank one? 443 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 2: So is it running lean? 444 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 6: Is it about to set an eleven seventy five which 445 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 6: is bank two? Okay? You know, do we do we 446 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 6: have a lean running engine? You know, I always I 447 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 6: always encourage everybody. If we've got a V six, V 448 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 6: eight anything, and we get a fault for the left 449 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 6: side of the motor, don't just focus on the left side, 450 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 6: you know, if it's if it's a fuel trim related issue. 451 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 2: Can we go and look at fuel trim on the 452 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: right side. 453 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 6: Always remember if the you know, you go to the 454 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 6: doctor for a physical, right Brian, and he says, you 455 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 6: know you're you're cholesterol good cholesterol is two hundred bed 456 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 6: cholesterol is two h one. 457 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 2: So if if it's. 458 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 6: One ninety nine, are we waiting? You know it's it's 459 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 6: you're you're right on the you're right on the cruck. 460 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 6: So if if fuel trim on the right side is 461 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 6: twenty five and the code sets at twenty six, guess what, 462 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 6: it just hasn't gotten to that part yet. 463 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 2: So you know, why is this running lean? 464 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 6: You think if it lost fuel pressure, if the fuel 465 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 6: pump couldn't deliver volume, you think it would start to lose. 466 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: Power and run lean. 467 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 6: I do, yeah, right logically logically speaking, And then again 468 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,479 Speaker 6: maybe it's not fuel pressure related. 469 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 2: What's what's what's the strategy on. 470 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 6: These that I've seen? One of the weird things I've 471 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 6: seen on these is it will set a C zero 472 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 6: Charlie zero five sixty one. And when you said the 473 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 6: service Stabili track light is on, I bet you there's 474 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 6: a fault code in the Stabilit track And I bet 475 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 6: you it's a five sixty one because the brake control 476 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 6: module is receiving invalid data from another module and it 477 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 6: sets that fault. And everybody they either ignore it or 478 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 6: they look at it. If they ignore it, they miss it. 479 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 6: If they look at it, it confuses them. All right, 480 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 6: there's there's there's two things that are critical on this 481 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 6: car that'll cause loss of power besides the fuel pump. 482 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 6: Besides you know, is it a bad PCM, is it 483 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 6: a bad wiring harness? I mean, there's fifty things we 484 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 6: could talk about, but just trying to get to the 485 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 6: middle of the problem. You know, tell me what's good, 486 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 6: I'll tell you what's bad, all right. Throttle position sensor, 487 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 6: all right, because this is a drive by wire car, 488 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 6: so throttle position and accelerator pedal position sensors. But I 489 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 6: generally don't see those create the lean condition, and if 490 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 6: they did, it would be both bad. 491 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 7: Right. 492 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 6: Map sensor all right, Uh, we've got to take a look. 493 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 6: We've got to take a look at the map censor. 494 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 6: And I don't mean as the map censor bed do 495 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 6: we have a wiring problem And it could be an 496 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 6: issue where the map sensor is changing voltage while you're 497 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 6: driving the vehicle. You know, it's showing a lean condition 498 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 6: that isn't there, or it's showing a rich condition, and 499 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 6: the PCM tries leaning the mixture out to the point 500 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 6: that the car shuts off in stalls, or runs bad or. 501 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 2: Has a loss of power. All right, you know, yeah, 502 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 2: go ahead. 503 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 4: I was just gonna throw out there when it did 504 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 4: happen to him, I when he was in the Twin Cities, 505 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 4: I did. I did go through there one day after 506 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 4: this had happened, and I stopped by, put my scanner 507 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 4: on it, and I came up with that, got it 508 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 4: up to my guy up the road here, and he's 509 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 4: coming up with that too, and he said, well that's 510 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 4: he said. I'm that he's saying, Well, it could either 511 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 4: be two censor or campus and sensor or phaser, and 512 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 4: you're going, you're going in the direction of a fuel 513 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 4: mixture on bank one. 514 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 9: So that's good to know. 515 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 4: It, right, Well, what would cause these other lights to 516 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 4: come on? And I get the check engine. 517 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 2: Well, the other engine light. 518 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 6: The other lights are coming on because the way the 519 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 6: strategy is on vehicles, probably in the last twenty years now, 520 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 6: I was going to say five years, but I'm getting old. 521 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 6: I forget in the last twenty years is if there's 522 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 6: a fault in the PCM, they start to limit traction control, 523 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 6: They start to limit steering and safety device control because 524 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 6: they don't want the engine over working itself, working too hard. 525 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,479 Speaker 2: You know. 526 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 6: I was gonna say, ever, you know, it's sort of 527 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 6: like you spray your shoulder and the doctor says, don't 528 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 6: lift anything heavy, but you can still go to work. 529 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 2: It's easy. 530 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 6: We're just trying to take care of the vehicle and 531 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 6: not put it under any undue stress or aggravation until 532 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 6: we solve the problem. 533 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I get one hundred percent they I was 534 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 4: going to say when it happened to me, when I 535 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 4: was driving it five miles up the road here and 536 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 4: it was doing it, and it makes sense that obviously 537 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 4: something's wrong, isn't It isn't running right, it's throwing everything off. 538 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 4: The thing would not shift correctly either. I mean, it 539 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 4: just I couldn't get it. 540 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 9: Sure. 541 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, and ultimately I did. I pulled over the shoulder 542 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 4: and I kept moving, but I just backed up the 543 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 4: troddle right and just kind of let it, let it 544 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 4: take a breath, and then I was gradually able to 545 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 4: get get it up to a speed where. 546 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 6: It was reasonable right, and then it was and then 547 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 6: it was okay, and then the other thing you can 548 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 6: look at while you're when you've got your fuel pressure 549 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,959 Speaker 6: gage hooked up, just for giggles, take a fuel sample. 550 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 6: Hit the fuel pressure release button on the fuel pressure gage. 551 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 6: Take a fuel sample. It should fill a pint in 552 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 6: under thirty seconds. Shows it's got volume and the fuel 553 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 6: should be clean. But you know, are we headed towards 554 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 6: a failing fuel pump on a two hundred thousand mile 555 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 6: fifteen year old car? Do we have an intermittent map sensor? 556 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 6: Some things to look at, Brian, I gotta go take 557 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 6: a look at that. Give me a call back. I'm 558 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 6: glad to help him. Talk about it some more and 559 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 6: we can solve it for you. I'm running any in 560 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 6: the Card Doctor. We're back right after this. Hey, welcome back. 561 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 2: Running in the Card Doctor. 562 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 6: Here at eight five five five six zero nine nine 563 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,479 Speaker 6: zero zero twenty four to seven phone number. Call leave 564 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 6: a message. If we're not here, we'll get you on 565 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 6: here in the next live broadcast. Let's go over to 566 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 6: Hannah in Maine, fifteen Ford Fusion. Hannah, how can I help. 567 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 10: You hi, let me give you a little rundown. What's 568 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 10: going on with me in my car? 569 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 2: Okay? 570 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 10: I have a twenty fifteen Ford Fusion at sixty eight 571 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 10: thousand miles. The transmission is a pair gone toast, and 572 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 10: I still owe fourteen thousand dollars on the vehicle. 573 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 2: Yikes? Did you yeah? Did you? 574 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 8: No? 575 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 10: I don't know what you do. 576 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: You bought it used, right? 577 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 10: I did? I came with thirty thousand miles. 578 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 6: Okay, Well, you know it's it's so, and I'm sure 579 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 6: you've got did you get a price on a replacement trans. 580 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 10: So? The Ford garage in Augusta is quoting me six thousand, 581 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 10: nine hundred with a three year warranty. But I've been 582 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 10: looking through other garages and I've been quoted around six 583 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 10: thousand because they don't want to put a used transmission in, 584 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 10: because they're worried that this one only got me to 585 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 10: sixty eight thousand miles. What's to say one for four thousand, 586 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 10: wouldn't you know get me in? You know a used 587 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 10: one would last any longer? 588 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 9: Right? 589 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 2: So obviously the first that's the problem. Yeah, Well, and the. 590 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,239 Speaker 6: First, the first choice, I'm gonna get the first we're 591 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 6: gonna we're gonna talk about this here. Obviously, my first 592 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 6: question is can you afford a new car? And the 593 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 6: answer is going to be no, because otherwise you would 594 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 6: have bought a new car instead of buying the used 595 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 6: car three years ago? Right, Okay, so right, can can 596 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 6: you afford another used car? 597 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 8: Well? 598 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 10: No, I can't. I can't even afford the six thousand dollars. 599 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 2: Repair, right I kind of knew that. 600 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 6: So so then the option becomes in, You've got to 601 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 6: you know, you've got to repair this. And quite honestly, 602 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 6: I would, I would I myself. Who's been servicing the 603 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 6: car up to this point? 604 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 2: Who's been working on it? 605 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 6: So it's just. 606 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 10: Sitting at the Ford Garage in Augusta right now until 607 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 10: I find a place to get it to tou to 608 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 10: either get the repair done or have it repossessed at 609 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 10: the Ford Garage and Augusta. 610 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 6: Well no, by that, I mean, because who's who's been 611 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 6: working on it up to this point, who's been doing 612 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 6: the service and such on it? 613 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 9: Do you have? 614 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 6: Has the Ford dealer been the place or you just 615 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 6: ended up there for this particular problem. 616 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 10: I just ended up there with this particular problem. 617 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 6: Okay, and then do they you know, what does the 618 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 6: rest of the car look like? It's nine years old 619 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 6: and it's been up in Maine. It's you know, let's 620 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 6: face it, you guys have corrosion and rust issues. I 621 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 6: don't want to put seven grand. 622 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 10: Into a Yeah, it's a pretty clean car. I mean, 623 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 10: I just got the brakes done on it. I haven't 624 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 10: had any issues other than this major issue. Right, It's 625 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 10: in good condition. 626 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 6: Okay, I would I would want the Ford dealer to 627 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 6: tell me that, because you're seeing it from the top, 628 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 6: you want to look at it from underneath. What is what? 629 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 6: What kind of rust is? What kind of rust is 630 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 6: on the chassis and the subframe? You know, what are 631 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 6: the things? What are the things that you don't see? 632 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 6: It's got seventy thousand miles on it, if you if you, 633 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 6: and I'm just saying, if you put seven grand in it, right, 634 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 6: do they think this car will go another three years? 635 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 2: Typically they do. 636 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 6: I'm sort of surprised to see the trans fail at 637 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 6: sixty eight, But then again, I can tell you my 638 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 6: four Suburban that I changed it's diaper every day of 639 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 6: its life. The trans at fifty five thousand, it happens 640 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 6: you know, it's it's it's just it's just, you know, 641 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 6: it's life's tough. 642 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 2: Wear a hard hat, you know, as they. 643 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 6: Say, I think, I think the most important question is 644 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 6: who's going to do it, who's going to give the 645 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 6: best warranty, and who's going to actually be around to 646 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 6: stand behind it. Do you travel with the car? Do 647 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 6: you stay primarily up in Maine? Or do you ever 648 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 6: venture out elsewhere? 649 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 10: I do travel. I live in Carthage and I go 650 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 10: to I stay right in Main, but I do travel 651 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 10: like around. 652 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 6: Me, you know, because my my other concern is, you know, 653 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 6: if the Ford dealer does it and you travel from 654 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 6: one side of Maine to the other, if the trans 655 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 6: were to have a problem, is the warranty honored at 656 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 6: four dealers elsewhere in Maine and across the country, whereas 657 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 6: at a local shop, you know they might have to 658 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 6: make arrangements for that to happen. So this is a 659 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 6: major purchase. You know, if this is a major purchase, 660 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 6: what what what else are we doing? You know, you've 661 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 6: got to think that it's it's it's twenty grand to replace. 662 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 6: I use a vehicle with something used. That's kind of 663 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 6: a tough thing. And you know what, you don't want 664 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 6: to let it get repossessed because then that's going to 665 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 6: affect your credit and everything else. That becomes a real 666 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 6: mischie gus bottom line exactly, Yeah, you know. Bottom line. 667 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 6: You need a car. Is this one any good? Is 668 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 6: this worth fixing? Let's decide if this is worth fixing 669 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 6: and putting the money into, and then you'll find the 670 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 6: money the universe provides. 671 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 10: All right, right, okay, thank you, You're very. 672 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 6: Welcome, Kittle, good luck, and I wish you the best. 673 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 6: I'm sorry to hear that I'm running Nanny and the 674 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 6: Car Doctor. We're back right after this. You know, it's 675 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 6: it's amazing to me how the time just flies by. 676 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 6: We just did two hours of radio here on the 677 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 6: weekend and it just it's like and it's gone. The 678 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 6: folks over at Mitchell one have something called Shuretrack, you know, 679 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 6: their sure Track fixes, which comes to you as as 680 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 6: part of the subscription for you know, Mitchell one in 681 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 6: pro demand. So this month there was a good one 682 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 6: in there talked about problems with a twenty fourteen RAM 683 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 6: fifteen hundred that was experiencing a cylinder number one shutdown 684 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 6: and it wasn't operating properly. The person that replaced the 685 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 6: cam and the lifters a month ago, I'm sorry four 686 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 6: months ago, and now it's setting a fault code. Well, 687 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 6: you know, like they say, it takes a village to 688 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 6: raise a child, that takes a village to repair a car. Sometimes, 689 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 6: because the person that was having the vehicle repaired, the 690 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 6: person in the shop wrote reached out to the share 691 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 6: track community via Mitchell one and he got some responses 692 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 6: and they talked about looking at the cylinder number one lifter, 693 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 6: the multiple displacement cylinder lifter, and they found out that 694 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 6: the lock pin wasn't working and returning the lifting a 695 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 6: normal operation. So mechanically the cylinder never had proper valve 696 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 6: train operation. The PCM knows that and it kept it 697 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 6: in the off position. So the strategy prevented it from 698 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 6: reigniting or allowing the cylinder to run and thereby saving 699 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 6: the cylinder, saving the engine. Anyway, that's the strategy that 700 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 6: goes through. It's just a great service. So the folks 701 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 6: over at Mitchell one another kudos and another tip of 702 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 6: the hat. 703 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 2: They did. 704 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 6: They did a great job, as sure track always does, 705 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 6: helping to solve problems that can't be solved otherwise, at 706 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 6: least not without extensive use of the gray matter. 707 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 2: So that's about it for today. 708 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 6: I'm on an aating of the Car Doctor, reminding you 709 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 6: good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 710 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:34,280 Speaker 2: See