1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Clay Travis en Buck Sexton Show. 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: It's a solemn day to day as we are memory 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: nine to eleven, and of course as we are also 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: remembering our friend Charlie Kirk who was killed by an 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: assassin's bullet yesterday, and a lot of us processing the grief, 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: feeling like we've woken up in a somewhat different and 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: darker country today because of this terrible act. 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: And we wanted to speak with our friend Bill O'Reilly. 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: You know him. 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: He's a best selling author, he was on Box for 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: decades and Bill, honestly just wanted to give you an opportunity. 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: We were in shock yesterday. The news came down while 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: we were on the air at the very end of 14 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: the show, so we didn't know and we were all 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: hoping that the end result would be quite different. 16 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: Just wanted to you. 17 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: You've seen a lot in your years speaking the truth 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: to the people about what's going on, but this is 19 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: a particularly awful day and wanted to let you speak 20 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: to everybody about how you're feeling. 21 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 3: Okay, well, I'm gonna tell the audience on a Clayan 22 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 3: book show the absolute truth. This was evil and that 23 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 3: word applies not only to the assassination of mister Kirk, 24 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 3: but what's happening in general in this country. So, as 25 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 3: you guys know, on Tuesday, my brand new book Confronting 26 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 3: Evil was released, and I woke up on Wednesday to 27 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 3: see Putin firing missiles at Poland in an unbelievably dangerous situation, 28 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 3: and then a few hours later, Charlie Kirk is shot 29 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 3: to death in Utah. I did a lot of media 30 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 3: between those things and now, and one interviewer said, your 31 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 3: book is haunting. The timing of your book is haunting 32 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 3: because I knew that we are entering a new age 33 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 3: of evil. And that's a point I made on News 34 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: Nation on television last night. Nineteen thirties, the world gravitated 35 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 3: toward evil in an enormous way that resulted in one 36 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 3: hundred million people being killed in World War Two. Now, 37 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 3: thanks to the United States, we defeated evil, and there 38 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 3: were others who helped us, but we were the primary motivator. 39 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: We're back now in an age where evil is on 40 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 3: the rise, and evil is what took Charlie Kirk's life. 41 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 3: So I find myself in a very interesting position of 42 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 3: having written a book you know, we start these a 43 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 3: year in advance, predicting that bad things were going to occur, 44 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 3: and then see them occur the very week my book 45 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 3: is released. And the message in confronting evil is the 46 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 3: reason this is happening is because many Americans and all 47 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 3: people all over the world are turning away. So you 48 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: turn away from evil, you're going to get more of it. 49 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: It is easier for miscreants to do their horrible deeds 50 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 3: now than it ever before in American history. Do you 51 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 3: guys realize that it is easier to kill a fellow 52 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 3: human being in the United States than ever before because 53 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: of our promissive justice system and our progressive movement that 54 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 3: does not want to punish criminals and indeed encourages political violence. 55 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 3: There are members of the progressive movement and they are 56 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: centered on MSNBC and the urban newspapers who are encouraging 57 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 3: political violence. We saw that yesterday, just one hour after 58 00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk was shot, a man Matt you Doubt went 59 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 3: on MSNBC and said, you know, I might have been 60 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 3: Kurtzbault because of his opinions. Now he was fired because 61 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 3: MSNBC had to fire him. But is anybody surprised. Is 62 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 3: anybody surprised that that was said on ms NBC No, 63 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 3: Because we'll play Children of Hatred. 64 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 4: We'll play some of that audio for you guys out there, 65 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 4: because I do think it's important for you to be 66 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 4: aware of what was said and has been said. 67 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: Bill O'Reilly with us? Now? What advice? 68 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 4: One of the things obviously we're doing on the show 69 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 4: today is a form of collective healing and mourning because 70 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 4: so many people have been so deeply impacted, including us, 71 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 4: including you. What should we do because there's a lot 72 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 4: of people out there in your opinion, what is the 73 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 4: constructive path going forward in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination. 74 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 3: It's an excellent question, and you're asking, so, mister Kirk's 75 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 3: death I think is going to lead to a renaissance 76 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 3: of a demand for justice. That's what I believe is 77 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 3: going to happen. But in order for that to happen, 78 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 3: you have to understand what is happening in this world 79 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 3: right now. And that's why I wrote Confronting Evil, because 80 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 3: most people look away, they don't understand, they don't know 81 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 3: what happened. Every one of the fifteen miscreants profiled in Evil. 82 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 3: My book is relevant to today, as far back as 83 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 3: Caligula in the Roman Empire. It's all relevant to today. 84 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 3: But this is shocking, so disconcerting, so sad, the assassination 85 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 3: of a thirty one year old just exercising its freedom 86 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 3: of speech, with two young children and a wife. That 87 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 3: everybody is forced to pay attention. And now you have 88 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 3: to inform yourself, so you guys might know that. Earlier 89 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 3: this week, on the launch of Confronting Evil, I made 90 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 3: a very bold statement that the Progressives, of course attacked. 91 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 3: My statement was, and if you live in New York 92 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 3: City and you vote for man Donni, you are committing 93 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 3: an act of evil. Doesn't mean you're an evil person. 94 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 3: It means that vote is evil because Mandanni has told you, 95 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 3: just like Hitler did in the nineteen twenties. I'm not 96 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: comparing Hitler to Mandanni, but it's the same kind of 97 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: presentation of what they believe. Mandanni has told you he 98 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 3: does not want to imprison criminals. He will let out 99 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 3: as many as he can. Well, that is going to 100 00:06:55,320 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 3: lead to more murder, more rape, more assault. He's not 101 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 3: hiding it. There's no two sides to it. He's said 102 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: it so you are voting for that if you pull 103 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 3: the lever for the man. And I'm saying to the 104 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 3: American public, you have to stop that. You can't enable 105 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 3: these people in Charlotte, where the judge let this guy out, 106 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 3: knowing the man was violent, knowing he had beat up 107 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 3: his own sister, let him out to do what he 108 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 3: did to that young woman on the bus. Every American 109 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: has got to say, no, we're not voting to that. 110 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 3: Judge should be removed. The fact that she isn't removed, 111 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: I think she will be. What are you doing in 112 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: North Carolina? What are you doing standing in Chicago's South Side? 113 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 3: Twenty years twenty years of drug gangs mowing down poor 114 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 3: black citizens, and you object to a layer of protection 115 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 3: offered by the federal government to stop it or at 116 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 3: least mitigate it. You object to that? What the deuce 117 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 3: is going on? So Americans have got to get as 118 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 3: angry as you, guys as me in order to make 119 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:27,119 Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk's death a legacy play. So when people die 120 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 3: in this violent manner, it's something good can emerge that 121 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: prevents future deaths. That is very important. 122 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 2: Bill. Can I ask you the I don't think you're 123 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 2: on Blue Sky. I'm I'm. 124 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: I felt obligated because I was going to talk about 125 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 1: this because I saw people saying, you will not believe 126 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: how much vile and just disgraceful celebration was going on 127 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: on this website, which is the it's like the left 128 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: wing lunatic version of X because they can't, you know, 129 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: control X anymore because of Elon. So there's this whole 130 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: place you just go. And Bill I was going through 131 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: it last night. Do you think Democrats and it was 132 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: as bad as everybody was saying. I can tell everybody 133 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: it was. It's horrific. Do you think that there is 134 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: any sense from some of the Democrats who matter, some 135 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: of the Democrats who have power within their party that 136 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: there is something deeply spiritually psychologically wrong with the base 137 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: of their party? I mean, do you get that sense 138 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: that there's any accountability from within their side? Or is 139 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: this just going to be a both sides ism and 140 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: some people are going to celebrate it on their team 141 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: and other people are going to ignore it. 142 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: How do you see that where we are right. 143 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 3: Now, only the mentally ill would celebrate the assassination of 144 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk. So these people who are doing that are 145 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 3: mentally ill. Whether they're danger to society, I don't know, 146 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 3: but that's the classification. One hundred percent of them fall into. 147 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 3: There's no excuse for that. Now on the Democratic Party front, 148 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 3: you are seeing today a total retreat from Trumpet Hitler, 149 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 3: from MAGA or hub human beings. You're seeing one hundred 150 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 3: percent retreat because if you are on the hill or 151 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 3: in a state office, you are not going to be 152 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 3: able to survive by peddling hate in the wake of 153 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk's assassination. You will not be able to survive it. Okay, 154 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 3: they all know that. I mean the view today came 155 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 3: on and this is a very good example because everybody 156 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 3: knows what the view is, all right, And these are 157 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 3: radical left women. These are not thinkers. These are people 158 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 3: who are in business to make the other side suffer. 159 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 3: All of them were lamenting the death of Charlie Kirk. 160 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 3: Predictable Disney would not tolerate it, and they saw what 161 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 3: happened in Matthew Doubt at MSNBC. What was Charlie Kirk 162 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: ever invited on a program? 163 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 5: No? 164 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: Okay, no, we've talked. 165 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 4: We've talked about this bill. It's one of the things 166 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 4: that I think Charlie did so well, Bill, and this 167 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 4: is something that I spend an inordinate amount of time 168 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 4: thinking about, is how do you cut through the noise 169 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 4: to make people hear arguments that are good and sound 170 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 4: that they otherwise would not have been exposed to. Because 171 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 4: this is one of the downsides in a huge way, 172 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 4: I think of the algorithmic culture we have built. They 173 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 4: only feed you things that they know you already like. 174 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 4: So it puts people into the into the atmosphere, into 175 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 4: the zeitgeist, only four things that they've already experienced. 176 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: This is my old man take, Bill. I bet you'll 177 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 2: agree with this. 178 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 4: The reason I love reading print newspapers is because I 179 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 4: come across stories that I otherwise would have never seen, 180 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 4: because the algorithm wouldn't have known that I might be 181 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 4: interested in that, And that hopefully opens my mind and 182 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 4: makes me better at analyzing arguments and stories than I 183 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 4: otherwise would be. 184 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: How do you cut through? 185 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 4: Because your point there, they wouldn't have him on the 186 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 4: view because his arguments are too good, and because some 187 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 4: people sitting in that audience might have said, well, wait 188 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 4: a minute, I've heard that this Charlie Kirk guy's a Nazi. 189 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 2: I've heard he's Hitler, but he's. 190 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 4: Actually a pretty reasonable dad. And some of his takes 191 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 4: I might not agree with them all. You shouldn't necessarily 192 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 4: agree with everything anybody says entirely. Some of his takes, 193 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 4: they might have opened the window too, and that's what 194 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 4: was happening on social media, and that's why they killed him. 195 00:12:52,640 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 3: The corporations Disney, Comcast, CBS are partially responsible for the 196 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 3: rise in hatred in this country. I'm not going to 197 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 3: say the rise in evil, but the rise in hatred, 198 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 3: which feeds right into evil, and then evil feeds into violence. 199 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 3: The corporations to make money allowing people like Joy Behar 200 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 3: and the others to pedal hate. Okay, they make money 201 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 3: from Colbert, although they say they lose money. Why was 202 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 3: he on for so long? That's all he did? Now 203 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 3: that is going to cease for a while. And my 204 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 3: book is a perfect example of if you want to 205 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 3: inform yourself about evil, if you really want to know 206 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 3: what it is, do you read this book, and then 207 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 3: you will know, and then hopefully you yourself will start 208 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 3: to combat it in your own neighborhood, in your own family, 209 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 3: in your own state. Because that's what it will take 210 00:13:55,679 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 3: a shift in the culture, the American culture. You know, 211 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I was invited by President Trump to Yankee 212 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 3: Stadium tonight. There's a reason that he invited me. This 213 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 3: isn't a social thing. I think it's about Putin, but 214 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 3: I'm not quite sure. But you guys know that I 215 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 3: have a pretty let's say, respectful relationship with mister Trump. 216 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 3: I know I'm going to be talking about this culture 217 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 3: situation because he brought it up yesterday in his over 218 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 3: office reaction to Charlie Kirk. And I'm going to hand 219 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 3: them the book. I'm going to say, Listen, you cannot 220 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 3: look away from evil. You got to deal with Putin. 221 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 3: You gotta deal with him. Now, you got to deal 222 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 3: with the jihad Ron you already did? You already know 223 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 3: that evil? All right, you neutralize them, and now you 224 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 3: have to turn your attention to American culture to call 225 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 3: these people out. Enough's enough. I've had it. You guys 226 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 3: have had it. And Charlie Kirk is dead because of it. 227 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 3: An evil person kills him and we are looking away 228 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 3: from evil. 229 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: That's it, Bill, O'Reilly Confronting evil is the book Bill 230 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: appreciates you as always, sir, for the clarity and what 231 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: you stand for here now and always so thank you 232 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: for being with. 233 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 3: Us, Thanks for having me. Guys. 234 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: As we know, evil does exist in this world and 235 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: we have to do what we can to stand against 236 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: it in every way that we can. You want to 237 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: make sure that you also are able to defend yourself 238 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: when you can, how you can. And this is where 239 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: Saber comes into the picture. Sabers, pepper spray's, pepper gels, 240 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: projectile devices all made here in the US. Say, look, 241 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: I was talking to my wife last night about home defense, 242 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: home protection, and we have Saber non lethal here. We 243 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: have a lot of lethal stuff here too, but we 244 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: have Saber non lethal because I can trust them. Carrie's 245 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: comfortable with it. You have to take your defense into 246 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: your own hands. There's just evil out there. You know it, 247 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: We know it. All of us are aware. Saber is 248 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: spelled Sabre. The website is saberradio dot com. You could 249 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: say fifteen percent when you go to that website today, 250 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: the Mega Bundle, which has a pepper projectile launcher is 251 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: there for you. It's a great way to start. I've 252 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: got one here at home. 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That 263 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 2: is Charlie Kirk. 264 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 4: As we're coming back from break, we're playing many of 265 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 4: Charlie's comments and we'll play Charlie was on with in November, 266 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 4: and I think you'll get a sense if you do 267 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 4: not have one of the Dad and Buck what I 268 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 4: saw from you. And we'll talk about this maybe a 269 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 4: little bit when we come back. This is the first 270 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 4: thing when I saw your reaction. Every dad and mom 271 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 4: out there knows it. Your perspective on life changes immensely 272 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 4: when you become a parent, and so you're not just 273 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 4: thinking about yourself, which is normal, or your own parents 274 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 4: as a son, you're thinking about life going forward. And 275 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 4: I think for many people out there, the biggest challenge 276 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 4: of this when you really look at all of the 277 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 4: story is the little kids. 278 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: The kids. 279 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, right away, that was what got me as soon 280 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: as I it do think it's got all of us. 281 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 2: I don't know what to think or say. It's just 282 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 2: so terrible. Yeah, I think that is. 283 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 4: And I think when we come back to talk about 284 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 4: the humanity of fatherhood and motherhood and to have young kids. 285 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 4: He's thirty one years old. We'll talk about that when 286 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 4: we come back. We've talked a lot. I've got a 287 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 4: ten year old. We don't want to give them a 288 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 4: cell phone, and we're trying to keep our kids off 289 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 4: social media outside of the realm until they get to 290 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 4: be fourteen, fifteen years old, get a little bit older. 291 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 4: And so we use rapid radios in the Travis household 292 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 4: to help stay in touch with our ten year old. 293 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 4: Want them to be able to run around in the neighborhood, 294 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 4: want them to be able to play games with his friends, 295 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 4: but also want to be able to get in touch 296 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 4: with him whenever we need to. And that's what rapid 297 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 4: radios can help you do. If you happen to have 298 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 4: kids in your family that aren't old enough to have 299 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 4: cell phones yet, but you want them to be able 300 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 4: to communicate with you. 301 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 2: I love rappid radios for that reason. 302 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 4: They're also fantastic in the event that you have a 303 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 4: major issue and need to be able to get in 304 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 4: touch with many different people, as you can go to 305 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 4: rapid Radios dot com use code radio. That's Rapid Radios 306 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 4: dot com code radio. 307 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: Do it today, all, welcome back into playing Buck. We're 308 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 2: talking about. 309 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: You all know what we're talking about, the. 310 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,160 Speaker 2: Horrible assassination. 311 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: Our friend and a great American, a great patriot, and 312 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: an incredibly effective communicator and mobilizer of the youth toward constitutionalism, 313 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: toward God, toward so many things that we're just inspiring 314 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: and and we are are still falling closely as we're 315 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: discussing this with you. You know, there's multiple things going 316 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: on here. There's the processing of the grief. There's the 317 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: shock and just allowing that to course through all of 318 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: us as it did yesterday. 319 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 2: You heard us. 320 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: We were on the show as we found out in 321 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: real time that something bad had happened to Charlie. We 322 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 1: didn't know, you know, Clay, I just I think there 323 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: was a lot of There are a lot of us 324 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 1: who just thought, I mean, I would I will say 325 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: this is where my thoughts went initially because of what 326 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: happened to Trump. 327 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 4: I just thought, you know that Charlie would like be fine. 328 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 4: I think, sorry, guys, No, the world that we have 329 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 4: entered and that we hope we dodged when Trump took 330 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 4: a bullet to the year. If you go back and 331 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 4: listen to the Monday show that we did from Milwaukee, 332 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 4: we had the hope that maybe that had in some 333 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 4: way cleansed the soul of the nation in conjunction with 334 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 4: Trump's win. 335 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 2: That's my hope. 336 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 4: I'm an optimistic guy, and that the better angels of 337 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 4: Providence had looked down upon us. And I know that 338 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 4: Corey Combatoi lost his life, but that given the circumstances, 339 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 4: we had avoided cataclysm in the country when Trump was 340 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 4: not assassinated on live television and now Charlie was assassinated. Yeah, 341 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 4: And so my reaction buck, I'll just tell you. I mean, 342 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 4: I sat down with my boys and they're old enough 343 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,719 Speaker 4: to have this conversation, and I said, unfortunately, I think 344 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 4: this is going to happen more. I think the left 345 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 4: is not going to be sated with Charlie Kirk. They 346 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 4: are going to try to kill more of us. I'm 347 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 4: just being honest with everybody's exact same thing I told 348 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 4: my boys, and I think one of the challenges of 349 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 4: acts such as these is they are directly determined to 350 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 4: try to terrify all of us. It is terrorism, and 351 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 4: he was killed for his political This was a terrorist 352 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 4: Just to be clear, this was a terrorist act. We 353 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 4: say it was an assassination, but it was an assassination 354 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 4: in furtherance of terrorist action and ideology. They wanted to 355 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 4: silence Charlie Kirk because his arguments were so powerful and 356 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 4: having such an impact by killing him, But they also 357 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 4: wanted to send the message and I think that's why 358 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 4: it's hit so profoundly. On some level. I think people expect, unfortunately, 359 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 4: that political figures may get shot at. I think what 360 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 4: they have done in attacking a Charlie Kirk didn't have 361 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 4: a political office. When you attack someone who is in 362 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 4: the speech and opinion space, you are expanding the arena 363 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 4: of people that you're willing to attack, and they're sending 364 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 4: the message that if you have the wrong opinions and 365 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 4: you're effective at communicating them. We want to kill you, 366 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 4: and that's not going to end with Charlie Kirk. And 367 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 4: so I think it's something everybody else has to be 368 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 4: braver and maybe more courageous than we think we may be, 369 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 4: in order so that his life is not lost in 370 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 4: vain and the things that he argued in favor of 371 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 4: are elevated to a platform even beyond where he could 372 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 4: have taken them by himself. 373 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 2: I know that's we have. 374 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: I don't think we have said this yet, Clay. 375 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 2: We we had alluded to it. 376 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: We know that they have a third thirty out six 377 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: both action rifle that they believe is the murder weapon. 378 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: That the FBI has that in their custody already. It 379 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: was a thirty out six Mauser bolt action rifle wrapped 380 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: in a towel in a wooded area. But the part 381 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: of this we haven't discussed yet is, according to preliminary 382 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: sources reported here in the Wild and then New York 383 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: Post excuse me, the New York Post, the AMMO and 384 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: the AMMO and the rifle were engraved with quote transgender 385 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: and anti fascist ideology. So this was an ideological hit 386 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: when we. 387 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 2: Knew that before. 388 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: But we just have further clarity on this. This is 389 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: this is what this is what this was all about. 390 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: It was what Charlie stood for. And hey, look this 391 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: is where And I don't mean to make this and 392 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: to take the focus in any other direction right now 393 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: other than just to point out you and I agree 394 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: with Charlie on probably ninety nine percent of stuff. I 395 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: don't know, I can't remember the last time that I 396 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: could that, and on the big stuff, certainly ninety nine 397 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: percent of things, as does. 398 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 2: You know Matt Walsh. 399 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: And and and you know Ben Shapiro and and you 400 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: know Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck and you know, we 401 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: stand for the same things. 402 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 2: And they killed Charlie for what he stood for. So 403 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 2: this feels deeply personal on many levels, you know this. 404 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: This feels like, as you said, Clay, this this this 405 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: is not going to be the only time something like 406 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: this occurs, or at least they attempt something like this. 407 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: And the responses that you are seeing from democrats, from leftists, however, 408 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: somebody wants me to refer to them, I mean, just 409 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: the people who hate Trump and the people who make 410 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: allowances or even just openly celebrate what happened to Charlie, 411 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: which is its just demonic. 412 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 2: It's just the most demonic thing it is. 413 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 4: I think we should play a couple of those because 414 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 4: we try to give people context and I don't want 415 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 4: like sometimes you can say, hey, that's a fringe thing, 416 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 4: and I think you're talking about blue Sky and some 417 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 4: of the There is twenty percent at least of Democrat 418 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 4: Party supporters that are doing cartwheels right now because Charlie 419 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 4: Kirk got assassinated at a free stel. 420 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 2: This is I mean, I. 421 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: Didn't want to interrupt Bill o'reiley when he was with us, 422 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: and what he's saying is true. He says, well, anyone 423 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: who celebrates this is mentally ill. 424 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: Clay. 425 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: It's an entire social media platform with thousands, thousands, tens 426 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: of I can't I can't even get the whole thing. 427 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: Everything I was seeing last night was Charlie Kirk. You 428 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: know what they were I don't want to say it. 429 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: You know what they were writing, you know, without me 430 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: even having to read them to you. You all understand. 431 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: It's just it's monstrous. I mean, we can talk about it. 432 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: You you just tell tell everybody what Slaate just wrote. 433 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: Just to give an example of. 434 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 2: This, yeah. 435 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 4: I mean, I'll give you two and then we'll play 436 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 4: the Matthew Dowd cut that MSNBC had. This was what 437 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 4: they were saying live on the air while we were 438 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 4: talking to all of you. Slate has a story. Slate 439 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 4: is the one of the mouthpieces of the left online 440 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 4: in America. Their headline is, the response to Charlie Kirk's 441 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 4: death on the right is pretty damn ominous. Let me 442 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 4: repeat that. They have an entire article up. The response 443 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 4: to Charlie Kirk's death on the right is pretty damn ominous. 444 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 4: Here is the Atlantic buck headline Trump's dangerous response to 445 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 4: the Kirk assassination. Rather than condemning violence and calling for unity, 446 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 4: the President of the United States accused his political opposition 447 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 4: of being accessed series to murder. And I have to 448 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 4: be so careful not to curse there, because they are 449 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 4: they caused this. I'm sorry, this is so self evident 450 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 4: to all of us. And if you doubt me, this 451 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 4: is Matthew Dowd on MSNBC. But while Charlie Kirk may 452 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 4: well have been in the hospital fighting for his life, 453 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 4: and you know what he said, his words caused this. 454 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk did this to himself. This is what you 455 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 4: heard if you were watching MSNBC. 456 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 5: We don't know any of the details of this that 457 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 5: we don't know if this was a supporter shooting their 458 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 5: gun off in celebration or so. We have no idea 459 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 5: about this. But following up what was just said, he's 460 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 5: been one of the most divisive, especially devisive younger figures 461 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 5: in this who is constantly sort of pushing this sort 462 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 5: of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups. 463 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 5: And I always go back to hateful thoughts lead to 464 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 5: hateful words, which then lead to hateful act And I 465 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 5: think that's the environment we're in that that people just 466 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 5: you can't stop with these sort of awful thoughts you 467 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 5: have and then saying these awful words and not expect 468 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 5: awful actions to take place. 469 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 4: You can share your opinion, I mean, you expect to 470 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 4: get killed. That's what he said on MSNBC. He's he 471 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 4: says that this is true. 472 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: He says that what happened to Charlie is because of 473 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: what Charlie stood for and who he was. That's that's 474 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: what the implication of what he's saying is, which is 475 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: just satanic. And before that, though you also heard him 476 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: say maybe it was a supporter celebratory gunfire. 477 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: So this man is is who. 478 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: Is paid paid to give his opinion by a left 479 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: wing Democrats only watching network. He is an abject moron 480 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: on top of being monstrous when it comes to morality 481 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: and decency and what was going on there? A celebratory 482 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: gun How could someone say something so stupid? How could 483 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: someone be such a moron? But I think it goes 484 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: to how delusional and deluded a lot of the left 485 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: of Democrats. And again we're pulling people off of television 486 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: here who are paid to speak to. However, many people 487 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: are watching MSNBC these days, I don't know, but large 488 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: numbers of people across the country paid by may you 489 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: know NBC, which is owned by Comcast, paid by a 490 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: massive company, a massive you know, billions and billions of 491 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: dollar corporation. And they're saying stuff like this. Now, I 492 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: know you could say, well he's been fired. Yeah, he 493 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: thought though that this is what he was He thought 494 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: that this is what he was supposed to say to 495 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: that audience. That's why he said it. He thought that 496 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: he was doing his job there, because that's what MSNBC 497 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: actually is talking like and sounding like day in and 498 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: day out. 499 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 4: That's one hundred percent right, It's one hundred percent correct. 500 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 2: We'll go to break. We'll take some more of your reactions. 501 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 4: Talk back maybe the easiest way to get us today, 502 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 4: because it's hard to get through on the They fired, 503 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 4: by the way, MSNBC did Matthew Dowd for that clip 504 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 4: that we just played so such beyond the pale commentary 505 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 4: that even MSNBC was like, Hey, you embarrassed us. You 506 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 4: went too far. We shouldn't be saying live on the air. Hey, 507 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 4: if you have the wrong opinion, you kind of created 508 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 4: the situation where you should get shot for this. I 509 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 4: want to tell you I talked earlier about the fact 510 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 4: that rapid radios. We also use cell phones to stay 511 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 4: in touch with our kids. Seventeen year old fourteen year old. 512 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 4: I text with them all day, and I used Puretalk 513 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 4: phones to stay in touch with them. 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Pound two five zero say Clay and Buck. 533 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 2: You ain't imagining it. The world has gone insane. We 534 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 2: claim your sanity with Clay and Fun. 535 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 4: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 536 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 4: get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton 537 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 4: Show Ali producer shared a email with us, and I 538 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 4: thought that I would share this with all of you. 539 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 2: Clay and Buck. 540 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 4: I'm reaching out because my son, I won't say his name, 541 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 4: but know that we are talking to you. Help start 542 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 4: a Cape Cod chapter of Turning Point USA a couple 543 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 4: of years ago. He's home today, somewhat broken, trying to 544 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 4: process what happened. He's only twenty years old. My son's 545 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 4: been inspired by Charlie Kirk since he was a little kid. 546 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 4: He now works for Leadership Institute, spends endless hours recruiting 547 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 4: students at colleges all over the Northeast. I want to 548 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 4: see if there's a way that you could possibly speak 549 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 4: to him today. I think good therapy for him would 550 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 4: be to speak about Charlie Kirk. He's alone in his 551 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 4: room right now, trying to think of a way to 552 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 4: help him get inspired, lift his spirits. Anything you can 553 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 4: do would be greatly appreciated. So I don't want to 554 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 4: call this kid. I don't want to put him on 555 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 4: the talk to millions of people. But Buck, I think 556 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 4: you and I they can clip this and they can 557 00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 4: share with him, and you're hearing my voice because I 558 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 4: think there's so many young kids out there, so many 559 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 4: young boys that are lost, and Charlie was for them 560 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 4: a voice to help provide salvation to them. That's why 561 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 4: he connected so well with young men young boys. And 562 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 4: I know in my own household that just from talking 563 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 4: to my kids about the impact. My ninth grade son said, Dad, 564 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 4: we went in the locker room and the whole football 565 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 4: team was just crushed. My son, one of my sons 566 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 4: last night, when I was talking to him, said, do 567 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 4: you think Charlie's kids are going to grow up and 568 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 4: watch that video of him getting shot one day? What 569 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 4: do you say to that? And so what I would say, 570 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 4: what I told them, and what I would tell that 571 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 4: kid is you have to be tougher than you think 572 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 4: you are. If you have to be braver then you 573 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 4: think you are, and you are both, and so are 574 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 4: all of us. And I think for young kids in particular, 575 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 4: you may not have experienced. And I know for you, Buck, 576 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 4: I could see it in your eyes because this is 577 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 4: the first time something like this has happened since you 578 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 4: became a dad. Yeah, and it changes you in a 579 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:48,919 Speaker 4: big way. 580 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 2: But what I would say. 581 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 4: Is everybody has to lift up and be braver and 582 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 4: more courageous and stronger than you think you are. And 583 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 4: I think when you're a young kid, young boy, young girl, 584 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 4: you feel like you're fragile, and you aren't. You are 585 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 4: so much stronger than you think you are. And one 586 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 4: of the things with this whole toxic empathy universe is 587 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 4: we're telling kids, hey, you're weak. Words hurt you. You 588 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 4: need to be protected from the real world. That guy 589 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 4: who killed Charlie, he was weak. There was an open 590 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 4: mic right there. If you have the best argument in 591 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 4: the world. Charlie was providing you a voice to step 592 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 4: right up and tell him why he was wrong. And 593 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 4: instead of that, from two hundred yards away, you took 594 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 4: his life. For your young son, for so many young 595 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 4: people out there, and for a lot of us that 596 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 4: are older too, we have to be braver. We have 597 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 4: to be more courageous, We have to be tougher than 598 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 4: we even think we are. And you cannot let people 599 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:13,240 Speaker 4: who want to silence you win, ever that's what they want. 600 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 4: You have to stand up stronger than you've ever been before. 601 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,720 Speaker 4: All of us do, your son, my son's, everybody's sons 602 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 4: and daughters, and all of us two have to be 603 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 4: the rocks to allow them to stand up and be strong. 604 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: Amen, Clay, Let's take let's take calls in the next 605 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: let's come back. 606 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 2: Let's hear from all of you. 607 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: Our lines are open to We want to speak with 608 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: all of you, so please call in and if you're 609 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: getting a busy please wait your turn. If you want 610 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: to speak to us and everyone all around the country 611 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: about what happened, we'll get into it a few minutes here. 612 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 2: Thank you for being with us.