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Speaker 1: up everybody? Welcome back to the Draymond Green Show. As
Speaker 1: you know, we are officially officially back from All Star Break.
Speaker 1: Last time we spoke, we were kind of gear enough
Speaker 1: to get ready to start the season back from Austar break.
Speaker 1: Games are back, going to dubs or two and one
Speaker 1: since the break, losing to the Lakers, but coming home
Speaker 1: and beating the Rockets, and also Sunday Night's game, we
Speaker 1: were able to get a comeback win at home versus
Speaker 1: the Timber was which was a huge win. Coming into
Speaker 1: that game, I think we were thirty and thirty and
Speaker 1: they were thirty one and thirty one, so right there
Speaker 1: in the standing, pretty big time win for us. Obviously
Speaker 1: missing Steph Wiggins myself, gp Andre guys went out there
Speaker 1: and got it done. Was a huge win, which we
Speaker 1: will get straight into that nas Read. First off, nas Read.
Speaker 1: It started like nas Reads, just like playing against the Warriors.
Speaker 1: This guy comes out and has incredible games. I've always
Speaker 1: been a fan of nas Ree since he came into
Speaker 1: the league. I would have conversations with him as a rookie, like, yo,
Speaker 1: you got some game, and if you get your body
Speaker 1: in shape and lose some weight, like it really take
Speaker 1: your game to the next level. And he's done every
Speaker 1: bit of that. He's gotten an incredible shade, which is
Speaker 1: why you see it up ticking the monster dunks from
Speaker 1: nas Red. But he is, he's playing really well, and
Speaker 1: that team they seem to play better when he's playing
Speaker 1: at the five, which I think is an interesting, very
Speaker 1: interesting thing. The space scene is different. Uh ant Man
Speaker 1: didn't have a great game Sunday night against us, but
Speaker 1: he's able to get into pain and I think our
Speaker 1: our defense, our guys did a great job of standing
Speaker 1: in the shell and making him play in a crowd,
Speaker 1: so he just didn't see gaps that he can drive.
Speaker 1: And then the jump jump shot wasn't going, so that
Speaker 1: was good. And I think we did a good job there.
Speaker 1: Dante Defencenzo had another great game. Clay Thompson, Clay has
Speaker 1: been playing extremely well. Dante actually said something last night.
Speaker 1: I came across a quote where he said, like, yeah, like,
Speaker 1: it's Clay Thompson and he's what do you expect, like
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer and quite frankly, that that is the
Speaker 1: league that we're playing in. It's always what have you
Speaker 1: done for me lately? And so you know, Clay may come.
Speaker 1: It's like they said on Washed and you know, uh,
Speaker 1: still chasing greatness and all of those things. And so
Speaker 1: it's great to see Clay having the games that he's
Speaker 1: been having, especially during a time where we're without staff,
Speaker 1: where we're missing so many guys, including myself the last
Speaker 1: couple of games. Quite frankly, I'm I am planning on
Speaker 1: playing tonight versus the Blazer's barn that you know, everything
Speaker 1: leading up to this game stay status quote. But I
Speaker 1: got a number. I I know everybody was wondering where
Speaker 1: did I get hurt or how did I get hurt?
Speaker 1: It was on one play versus the Lakers in the
Speaker 1: third quarter. Jared Andrewbill had the ball and he's like
Speaker 1: stumbling down the paint losing the ball and his knee
Speaker 1: goes right into mine. And like I didn't start hopping anohing,
Speaker 1: But on that play, I just stayed there at the ball.
Speaker 1: We took the ball, we went down the court, and
Speaker 1: I just stayed there with my hand on my knee,
Speaker 1: and I was just standing there for a while, like
Speaker 1: holding my knee because it hurt like hell. And you know,
Speaker 1: the MRI, I came back no structural damage. Obviously, there's
Speaker 1: some fluid in my knee from the knock. You know,
Speaker 1: that's just created a little bit of swelling, which has
Speaker 1: helped me out the last two games. And then, you know,
Speaker 1: after it seemed that it wasn't improving much over the
Speaker 1: first day or two, decided to get an MRI before
Speaker 1: Sunday's game, and like I said, it came back clean.
Speaker 1: So at that point, for me, it's just about tolerating
Speaker 1: the pain. And there's obviously still a little pain there
Speaker 1: from a you know, you go need to need those
Speaker 1: things hurt, especially when you go to kneed a knee
Speaker 1: with the super bony guys like Jared Vanderbilt, Like you
Speaker 1: catch your knee from those guys and they hurt like hell,
Speaker 1: and so, like I said, so at this point, it's
Speaker 1: just about managing the fluid, you know, continuing to try
Speaker 1: to get all of that out. But I'm ready to go.
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Speaker 1: the guys tonight. Like I said, two on one since
Speaker 1: the All Star Break, Blazers I think are two or
Speaker 1: three games behind us and the standings, but more importantly
Speaker 1: than them being behind us, only two or three games
Speaker 1: in the standings. We need wins and the Dubs are
Speaker 1: now twenty four and seven if I'm not mistaken, and
Speaker 1: home games, and you know, we gotta take care our
Speaker 1: home court. As you know, we've been complete shit on
Speaker 1: the road, so you gotta at least take care of
Speaker 1: the ones at home, and been doing a great job
Speaker 1: of that. Like I said, the other night was a
Speaker 1: huge or Sunday night was a huge win, and we
Speaker 1: got to continue to build on that. When you have
Speaker 1: an injury that's not a structurally damaging one like you
Speaker 1: obviously avoided bigger structural issues with the MRI, so now
Speaker 1: it's more of a pain tolerance issue. But then what's
Speaker 1: that process like and what's the communication, like in terms
Speaker 1: of you and the coaching staff and the training staff.
Speaker 1: Is it you going to them saying, hey, I feel
Speaker 1: pretty good, finally I'm ready to play. Is it them
Speaker 1: saying maybe we should take another day to rest it?
Speaker 1: Like what is that communication chain? Sort of like when
Speaker 1: it comes to non long term injuries, for me, it's
Speaker 1: about like, you know, then they're just totally going off
Speaker 1: how you feel about the pain now and saying that
Speaker 1: you get the knee not that I have with the
Speaker 1: bruis or whatnot, and it shuts down other things. Okay,
Speaker 1: so your VMO shuts down, which is your you know,
Speaker 1: right the muscle right on the inside of your knee,
Speaker 1: right in the inside of your quad, which is a
Speaker 1: very important stabilization muscle that starts to shut down. Your
Speaker 1: IT bands start to shut down when you get those
Speaker 1: Those are extremely important stabilization muscles. So if you get
Speaker 1: those shutting down, then you put yourself at risk or
Speaker 1: something else, you know. And so that's where kind of
Speaker 1: my conversation is with Rick or like, all right, Rick,
Speaker 1: while I feel good enough to go play, and he's like,
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, but we have to make sure that
Speaker 1: those muscles are firing the correct way, because if they're not,
Speaker 1: then they make you susceptible to this injury. And so
Speaker 1: I think it actually goes into like the low management thing, right,
Speaker 1: There are times like that where it's like, yes, you
Speaker 1: actually could get out there and play right, but if
Speaker 1: something else is affected that can create a much worse
Speaker 1: injury than what you're already going through, then maybe you
Speaker 1: do take another game or two, you see, And so
Speaker 1: I think people don't necessarily always understand that side of
Speaker 1: things as well. On the risks and what else it's
Speaker 1: opening up as far as your body goes and how
Speaker 1: every the whole entire chain matters. Those are all the
Speaker 1: things that you have to take into account. And I
Speaker 1: think that's where the conversation and trust a monks the
Speaker 1: training staff comes into play, because amongst with the training
Speaker 1: staff and the player comes into play because you have
Speaker 1: to be honest, right, Like, I'm not going to go
Speaker 1: in there and lie and say I feel one percent great,
Speaker 1: because then you're not allowing them to use their expertise.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go be totally honest and say, all right,
Speaker 1: well I still feel some pain, but not enough pain
Speaker 1: to where I can't do X, Y, and Z, you know,
Speaker 1: and then he'll say, all right, well, here's what we
Speaker 1: have to watch. We have to make sure you're a
Speaker 1: being most fire and we have to make sure your
Speaker 1: IT bands, your gluts and everything are active. We have
Speaker 1: to do X, Y and Z, and then we can
Speaker 1: go from there, right, And so that dialogue is extremely important.
Speaker 1: Honesty and trust is extremely important because that's the way
Speaker 1: you work. You work through those The loss to the
Speaker 1: Lakers was a tough one. Obviously, you're coming off All
Speaker 1: Star break and you know, those guys play really well.
Speaker 1: They shot the ball extremely well, and you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's been interesting seeing this new look Lakers team, you know,
Speaker 1: where they have more spacing, they have Jared Vanderbilt doing
Speaker 1: the small things. Malik Beasley is just out there firing
Speaker 1: and as we all know, Malik can shoot the hell
Speaker 1: out of the ball. De Loo has been out since
Speaker 1: our game. Um, you know, he went out with I
Speaker 1: think an ankle injury. Braun dealing with the foot injury
Speaker 1: actually to the opposite foot than the one that he's
Speaker 1: been dealing with for most of the year. I thought
Speaker 1: it was very interesting and watching that game, he said,
Speaker 1: he said very clearly like I heard a pop, and
Speaker 1: anytime you hear an athlete say I heard a pop,
Speaker 1: that's never good. Um. Now, Lebron went ahead and finished
Speaker 1: the game, and you know they were able to come
Speaker 1: out with a win, which was a huge win them
Speaker 1: going to Dallas. We under knowing where the standings are.
Speaker 1: Dallas just got Kyrie, so two new look teams. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, Lakers goes down twenty twenty seven points I
Speaker 1: think twenty twenty seven points in the second quarter and
Speaker 1: they fought back to win that game. We just received
Speaker 1: news that Bron is going to be out for indefinitely
Speaker 1: for multiple games. That hurts the Lakers a lot. Uh.
Speaker 1: This is a team that's starting the role that's you know,
Speaker 1: four and one in their last five games. We all
Speaker 1: understand where they are in the standings. Uh, they got
Speaker 1: some ground to continue to make up, which you know,
Speaker 1: looking at their their new look team seemed more than
Speaker 1: capable and like they're going to make that ground up.
Speaker 1: Now you got Lebron out for um multiple games. What
Speaker 1: does that mean? Well, d Low has been out for
Speaker 1: the last two games. I think since our game he's
Speaker 1: been out. Now you take Lebron out, that's two of
Speaker 1: your three ball handlers that you have on the roster
Speaker 1: now out. Not sure when d Low will be back,
Speaker 1: but now you only have Dinner Schroder as as a
Speaker 1: primary ball handler that can get tough. And so I mean,
Speaker 1: you'd hope that Lebron is not out for long. You
Speaker 1: hope he's back sooner rather than later. But to say
Speaker 1: I heard a pop in my foot and then have
Speaker 1: a noticeable limp after and then it come out a
Speaker 1: day later that you're out in definitely that's not a
Speaker 1: good sign. Like I said, especially with the Lakers needing
Speaker 1: to win these games coming up. It's never a good
Speaker 1: sign with a guy going out like that, especially with
Speaker 1: a foot injury. Bronze Broun is the size of centers
Speaker 1: in the NBA today and moving like guards still, So
Speaker 1: the foot that's very very important. So we now know
Speaker 1: that Lebron will miss multiple games. We will see how
Speaker 1: the Lakers fair now over these games that Lebron is out,
Speaker 1: obviously you expect a heavy dose, so Anthony Davis, Anthony
Speaker 1: Davis is going to have to step it up even more.
Speaker 1: But you know, we'll see how it turns out. Wishing
Speaker 1: Brown a speedy recovery, you know year twenty still doing
Speaker 1: and how he's doing it. You never want to see
Speaker 1: guys injured, so wishing him a speedy recovery. But we
Speaker 1: have to keep our eyes out now on the Lakers,
Speaker 1: and you know, just when it rains, it pours. Man.
Speaker 1: It just seems like they're starting to turn the corner
Speaker 1: with their new roster, and then this happened, so super unfortunate,
Speaker 1: but that's why they retool the roster so they still
Speaker 1: have it, so they'll still have a chance and we'll
Speaker 1: see what those guys are capable of doing while Brown
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Speaker 1: of the NBA. And it's saying that in speaking of
Speaker 1: my injury and me getting back, and you know, tonight's game,
Speaker 1: we are hosting the Trailblazers with Damian Lillard coming in,
Speaker 1: Dame coming off seventy one points on Sunday. Dame made
Speaker 1: some comments as of late that I want to touch.
Speaker 1: But number one, let's just talk about the seventy one
Speaker 1: point performance. Absolutely incredible, not surprised at all. As we
Speaker 1: all know, Dame is capable of putting up huge numbers.
Speaker 1: He's done as his entire career. But they made some
Speaker 1: comments earlier where he said, or not earlier, but recently
Speaker 1: where he said, you're judged. You know, players are judged
Speaker 1: by if they win a championship or not, and people
Speaker 1: will devalue you based on whether you win a championship
Speaker 1: or not. So that's that's and this is a sum
Speaker 1: up of its quote. I'm not going word for word,
Speaker 1: but he said, that's why I want to win one
Speaker 1: just to really validate everything else that I've done. And
Speaker 1: I think my initial thought was very true. People definitely
Speaker 1: devalue what you've done if you don't win a championship.
Speaker 1: Why is that? Quite frankly, I think in most cases
Speaker 1: is warranted. Like, ultimately, we play to win, like you
Speaker 1: play the game. What's the old? What's the old the
Speaker 1: football commercials? You play to win like you played the game.
Speaker 1: That's why you play the game, like you play the
Speaker 1: game to win. And so at the end of the day, yes,
Speaker 1: you are going to be judged off winning championships. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the only thing, um, but you
Speaker 1: that that is a big part of it, Like that
Speaker 1: is what gives validation. That's um why you watch TNT
Speaker 1: inside the NBA and and Chuck or Shock and Kenny
Speaker 1: are extremely faster throughout their rings while Chuck sits there
Speaker 1: and can't have that conversation right Like how you know,
Speaker 1: you go into the playoffs and you want to talk
Speaker 1: about um winning championships and what needs to go go
Speaker 1: into it, and you can't really talk from experience lessons
Speaker 1: your argument. It lessens the impact of your statements that
Speaker 1: you're making. And so to Dame's point, I think at times,
Speaker 1: you know, at times it does suck because the reality
Speaker 1: is most people don't have feel and especially feel for
Speaker 1: the game in basketball. So if you're talking to someone
Speaker 1: that have field, they can kind to they can kind
Speaker 1: of separate the two. Now you start to get into
Speaker 1: those weeds and talking about championships and all that, then
Speaker 1: it's hard to separate the two. But they can separate
Speaker 1: the two. And what I mean by that, I can
Speaker 1: appreciate Dame for everything Dame's done. I can appreciate Dame
Speaker 1: for who he is as a player, how incredible he is.
Speaker 1: And know that I mean, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: quite frankly, Dame has not played on a championship team
Speaker 1: like Dame hasn't played on a team anywhere near capable
Speaker 1: of winning the championship. He played on the team that
Speaker 1: made it to the Western Conference finals, quite frankly, and
Speaker 1: a great That team that Dame played on that made
Speaker 1: the Western Conference Finals played in the Western Conference the
Speaker 1: day wouldn't sniff the Western Conference finals. Like and it's
Speaker 1: no knock to Dame or CJ. Those guys were really
Speaker 1: doing it. But the rest of their roster that was
Speaker 1: not a Western Conference Finals roster, which I think we
Speaker 1: probably swept them, or one in five we won in five.
Speaker 1: We played most of those games without Steph. That team
Speaker 1: wasn't very good. Dame and CJ did a lot of
Speaker 1: carrying to get that team there. That front office then
Speaker 1: when and paid all of those guys that was on
Speaker 1: that team because they thought they were going to be trashed.
Speaker 1: They snuck up on everybody and had a decent year
Speaker 1: and go to the West Conference Finals, and then that
Speaker 1: front office is going to pay all of those guys
Speaker 1: and leave them and ship for the next three or
Speaker 1: four years. Dame hasn't played on the champion team. So
Speaker 1: I can look at that and understand what makes up
Speaker 1: a championship team and say, yes, Dame hasn't won a championship,
Speaker 1: but Dame also hasn't been in a position to win
Speaker 1: a championship. Now, it's one thing if you've had opportunity
Speaker 1: after opportunity after opportunity to win championships and you did
Speaker 1: it with teams that are capable of winning championships and
Speaker 1: you did it. That's not the case for Dame. But
Speaker 1: you'll always get lumped into like this overarching group of
Speaker 1: guys who hasn't won a championship but are great players.
Speaker 1: And yes, ultimately, when it boils down to it, if
Speaker 1: you didn't win, I mean, you do go into that.
Speaker 1: But basketball minds and people that understand winning championships know
Speaker 1: that it's so it's about so much more than just
Speaker 1: Dame's performance. And Dame has consistently shown you what his
Speaker 1: performances are going to be. But you still need the roster,
Speaker 1: the right rooster around you to win championships. And when
Speaker 1: when the Blazers not talking about the current Blazers team,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the Blazers teams of the past when
Speaker 1: they were like making those playoff runs and they got
Speaker 1: to the Western Conference Finals that wasn't not a championship team,
Speaker 1: wasn't even a Western Conference Finals team. But Damon CJ
Speaker 1: stepped up and they did what they had to do.
Speaker 1: They sent teams home, they sent the team's home that
Speaker 1: they probably shouldn't have sent home, but they did that.
Speaker 1: And so you gotta get those guys credit. But I
Speaker 1: agree with Dane, you go win that championship. It one
Speaker 1: thousand percent stamps everything he's done and anything that anyone
Speaker 1: has to say. It takes that away because we all
Speaker 1: know what this resume is, absolutely an incredible resume. Looking
Speaker 1: forward to us going out there and playing him to night,
Speaker 1: him making sure he don't get seventy one points. Gotta
Speaker 1: make someone else beat you. You cannot just allow Dame
Speaker 1: necessarily to beat you. You have like if you're in
Speaker 1: a situation like that. But I looked at I looked
Speaker 1: at their stats at halftime. Dame have forty one, Jeremy
Speaker 1: had ten. No one else is in double dishes, Like,
Speaker 1: come on, Houston, Like, come on, man, like, at least
Speaker 1: make someone else shoot. I don't even think anyone else
Speaker 1: was shooting the ball. But shout out the Dame on
Speaker 1: an incredible performance. And I'm looking forward to us trying
Speaker 1: to put an end too that tonight. But the scoring
Speaker 1: run that Dame has been on as a whole, I
Speaker 1: think Dame's average Kobe at one stretch in OH five
Speaker 1: oh six average like forty game over the course of
Speaker 1: like twenty something games. Dame is on a similar run,
Speaker 1: averaging thirty nine a game over like twenty games or
Speaker 1: right around twenty games, which I think is absolutely amazing.
Speaker 1: We know the player of Dame is and it's been
Speaker 1: great to see him do that. Oh, it's time to
Speaker 1: get ready for this game. I give myself, get getting
Speaker 1: my routine, get going so we can take down these
Speaker 1: Blazers tonight. We really need this win. As I said,
Speaker 1: we have to really protect our home court because the
Speaker 1: role has not been too generous to us. So I
Speaker 1: hope you guys enjoyed this episode. We will be back
Speaker 1: later this week with an interview Asian Zero, No chill
Speaker 1: gil We got Gilbert Arenas and as you know, Gilbert
Speaker 1: is not shy. He's gonna say what he thinks. He's
Speaker 1: gonna say what he feels. And I think it was
Speaker 1: a great, great interview. I enjoyed it. I hope you
Speaker 1: all enjoy it later this week as much as I
Speaker 1: enjoy hosting the interview and hosting Gilbert Arenas. Great time.
Speaker 1: You see you all back here for that later this
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