1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: On Monday, March eleventh. You can pre register for the 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Bracket Challenge at Foxsports Radio dot com. 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Don't miss your chance to win the ultimate college sports 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: trip for you and a friend at Graduate Hotels. Fox 5 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: Sports Radios Bracket Challenge is brought to you by Graduate 6 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: Hotels where college fans stay. 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: Hey, what up? 8 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: Welcome in. I'm Doug Gottlieb. This is All Ball Special 9 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: conversation today. My brother Greg, he's assistant coach with the 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: women at San Diego State. Course. If you follow me, 11 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: if you follow his career, you know twenty six years 12 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: he's spent on the men's side. Started Cal Poly's say Luisibispo, 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: to Sack State, to San Diego State the first year 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: that Steve Fisher was there, all the way through eight years. 15 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: They won the league, got to the NCAA tournament to 16 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 1: Cal Berkeley. From cal he went to Oregon State. They 17 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: went to the first tournament first time, and like twenty 18 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: five years he's at Oregon State and then switched the 19 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: women's side at Grand Canyon for three years with Molly 20 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: Miller and now he's at San Diego Stay where they're 21 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: having spite injuries a pretty surprisingly successful season and they're 22 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: creeping up on twenty wins. So I want to get 23 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: to a couple of topics with him before I do that, 24 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: just kind of react to some of the stories of 25 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: what's going on, and there's a This is always an 26 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: interesting time of year because and I felt some of 27 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: the backlash from this for the last five years maybe 28 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: in my career, which is I always tried to play 29 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: it straight, not because I'm like holier than now, but 30 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: because I just thought that had the best longevity, and 31 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: I thought that's the way in which I really want 32 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: people in the media that well they they cover college football, 33 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: like I don't want guys just because they cover a 34 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: league to kiss up to that league, or just because 35 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: he played for a coach, doesn't you kiss up for 36 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: the coach. Or just because that school's your rival, doesn't 37 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: mean you talk shit about that that school. So I've 38 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: always trying to play it straight. And I think it's 39 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: fascinating this time of the year where we all have 40 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: our conference affiliations. If you're a broadcaster now, I was 41 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: always kind of a floateright and I've never had like 42 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: one true tie. We'll tell you that. For Compass Media, 43 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: they do the Big Ten tournament, we do Big twelve games, 44 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: and then all the different jobs I perform. It gets 45 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: me ready for the postseason. But I find it to 46 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: be fascinating how what we pick up on and you know, 47 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:31,399 Speaker 1: social media is such a powerful, powerful force. And I'll 48 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: give you an example. There's a Seaton Hall discussion to 49 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: be had out there now. Seaton Hall at the time 50 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: of this recording, I believe, is in third place in 51 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: the Big East. They do have wins over Marquette and 52 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: Yukon at home, and they had a nice little winning 53 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: streak before they got blown out by Creighton. I'm willing 54 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: to believe that Seaton Hall has improved as a team. 55 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: They weren't fully healthy when they were losing to you know, 56 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: in the midst of a losing street. But the point 57 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: is that it's very I find it to be kind 58 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: of par for the course that the ones shouting from 59 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 1: the mountaintops about Seton Hall are either East Coast guys, 60 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: New York based guys, or they cover the Big East, 61 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: whereas the rest of us are sitting there going like like, 62 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: look that their their top is really good. But they 63 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: didn't beat anybody of any substance in the non conference, 64 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: they have one which I actually think would be a 65 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: quality win over Missouri, and you're like, Missouri stinks. I know, 66 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: but the idea is when you're playing an SEC team too, 67 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: that that financially they're invested in being good. But the 68 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: bigger issue is, like, it wasn't like you scheduled to 69 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: avoid teams when you played Iowa and USC of Missouri 70 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: and these are normally traditionally NCAA tournament worthy programs and 71 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: they just weren't this year. And I don't believe you know, 72 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: you scheduled Missouri or USC thinking they were gonna suck, 73 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: but they have. That's said, like, look, I tweeted out 74 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: on Sunday that hey, it's nice still win streak, but 75 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: they're beating the bottom of the league. You know, let 76 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: me know what happens when they play the top of 77 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: the league, which is what they have here. You got 78 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: Creton on the road blown out. Now they got Yukon 79 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: up coming on Saturday. I don't think that'll end well. 80 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: Then they return home for Villanova, who have viscerated them, 81 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: and I think you gotta beat Villanova, And then I 82 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: think you got like a DePaul game. Okay, you're gonna 83 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: win that. Then when the game in the Big East Tournament, 84 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: you're probably safe. But you're operating this idea. Well, we 85 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: beat the top two teams the league, get home. Congrats. 86 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: Lots of teams have they really have. You got to 87 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: establish a level consistency and you got to be able 88 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: to show you can win on the road. And I 89 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: don't know how the committee evaluates November and December this year. 90 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: I don't because teams are not the same. But we've 91 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: always been taught it's your entire body of work. And 92 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: I think Seena Hall is going to challenge that. Well, 93 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: let's get to my conversation. Here's my brother Greg, course 94 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: sistant women's basketball coach at San Diego State. Okay, so 95 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: here just a question I have for you. You spent 96 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: like half your basketball life of the Mountain West, like 97 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: half it in the PAC twelve. And again, like, I 98 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: don't think that it's been this way for a long time. 99 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: There's been a couple of years where it's sort of 100 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: this year not less a better league in the PAC twelve. 101 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,679 Speaker 1: How does that happen your opinion? 102 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think you look at I look around, 103 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 3: first of all, the Mountain West has always had a 104 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 3: real commitment to basketball. I mean there are more there 105 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: are more schools in cities that really support the program. 106 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 3: That's why they've always had big arenas and the better 107 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 3: attendance than the Pac twelve. 108 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 4: But I think you're looking around. 109 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 3: And you're seeing a lot of schools that have a 110 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 3: much stronger commitment to basketball and an understanding. I think 111 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: of the nil landscape in a they were able to 112 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 3: capture that faster, you know. And then I think, all 113 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 3: so you look and I think there's some schools that 114 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 3: understand their identity way better and have stuck to who 115 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 3: they are in terms of how they become successful. You know, 116 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 3: a program like New Mexico, we know, I mean they 117 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 3: have tremendous tradition and commitment to basketball like that. And 118 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 3: you know, someone like like Richard Pertino, I think he 119 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 3: figured it out pretty quickly, like what do they need 120 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 3: and how are they going to get guys? They're kind 121 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 3: of guys to be successful, you know. But you know, 122 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: Colorado State even, I mean they're really good. Utah State's 123 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 3: really good. Boise I think they've established a level of consistency, 124 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 3: you know, I'm not even mentioning San Diego State. And 125 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 3: I think the craziest part about it, if you think 126 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: about it, because there's five or six teams, right are 127 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 3: you going to go to the tournament? And I didn't 128 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 3: mention UNLB, which usually would be the one that has 129 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 3: the strongest commitment. 130 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: Well, I think that's how they got d Dan Thomas. 131 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: But they don't have a you know, it's a hard lead, right. 132 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: It's interesting, like the NIL thing, like I've heard Utah 133 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: State is like in the forty grand in terms of 134 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: overall NIL. You know, from whatever their collective is. Now, 135 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: you know, guys can make stuff on their own santy. 136 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: The state they lost, you know, they're one of their 137 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: best players to Arizona because of you know, like it 138 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: became a bidding war and they're just like, hey, we're 139 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: not We're not there. So I agree with you. But 140 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: there's like you look at the University of Washington and 141 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what the actual number is, but there's 142 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: a gigantic financial commitment for them in the NIL space 143 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: in comparison to so many teams terms of dollars and 144 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: cents wise in the Mountain West that are not nearly 145 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: at that level. And yet again, University of Washington this 146 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: year very average team in a very average at best 147 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: by twelve, Like, how does that happen? 148 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think that's a great example because 149 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: I think you look at Washington State, they're more in 150 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: the Mount West molde of you know. You know, Mike 151 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: Coptons had a lot of success his first two years, 152 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 3: but really most of the kids he inherited from Lorenzo 153 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 3: Romar and then you know, he did a really good 154 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 3: job of recruiting kids that were highly regarded. But I 155 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 3: don't know that he ever truly has found his identity 156 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 3: in terms of how to put together the group that 157 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 3: he can be successful with. And I think you look 158 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: right right over there at Washington State, and I mean 159 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: they probably have the least amount of not just nil, 160 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: but the commitment to, you know, on. 161 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 4: A lot of things budget wise for basketball. 162 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: And I think Kyle's he's figured out whatever he had 163 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: to do to get the kind of guys that he 164 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: can win with. And again, I think you're looking around, 165 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 3: you know, and I think within the PAC twelve, I 166 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 3: think there's you know, sometimes when people with the nil 167 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 3: people lose their identity too, they start figuring, all right, 168 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: should we take now all of a sudden, we're going 169 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 3: to be everybody's in the portal? Or are we taking? 170 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 3: You know, who are we taking? Where are we getting guys? 171 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: Now? 172 00:08:55,360 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 3: Forget about recruiting freshmen, you know. So I think you're 173 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 3: seeing again some of the programs that have established a 174 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 3: level of consistency, they kind of. 175 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 4: Already have their. 176 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 3: Mold and identity of who they're getting, you know, what, 177 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 3: what the kids look like, where they're where they're coming from. 178 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 4: And they haven't really truly gotten off that path. 179 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 3: Maybe they've added one or two kids in the portal, 180 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 3: but they're still recruiting high school kids. They still are 181 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 3: retaining guys, you know, and they and their style of 182 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 3: play probably hasn't changed that much as well. So you know, 183 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 3: that's where I see the biggest change, you know. I mean, 184 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 3: I think even someone like Oregon. 185 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 4: I think Oregon. 186 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 3: Struggled because they've probably been heavy in the NIL and 187 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 3: maybe they don't have as many guys that really are 188 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 3: the kind of guys that Dana likes to coach. 189 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 4: They're just really talented. 190 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's lots to talk about Dana possibly retiring and 191 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: just because he's he made a lot of money. It's 192 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: not from Morgan what a lot of games been new 193 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: Final four or have done with it, you know, and 194 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: the constantly put in together a new team is just 195 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: it's it can be hard on guys who like you know, 196 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: it's always better when you have some consistency from last 197 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: year call on. 198 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 4: Well, I think it's more than more than that. 199 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 3: There's there's definitely that that's a huge piece, like you said, 200 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 3: but it's also just getting the kind of guys that 201 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 3: respond to the way you coach, you know, and having 202 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 3: you know, you want to have that group. You might 203 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 3: you might get that from a guy or too who's 204 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 3: a transfer, you know, but it's it's harder, you know 205 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 3: with some of these guys where you know they don't 206 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 3: even realize they're not very coachable, you know, they just 207 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 3: want to just give me the ball, let me go 208 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 3: do my things, so to speak, and you know, or 209 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 3: or really are they truly competitive? You know? The biggest 210 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: problem in the in the days of taking so many 211 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 3: transfers is you know, you can you can definitely watch 212 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 3: synergy clips and see how talented kids are and if 213 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 3: they can score and all that, but you really aren't 214 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 3: going to get an idea of what it's like to 215 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: coach them, not just in practice, but in games. Are 216 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 3: they truly competitive? What kind of teammate are they? You know, 217 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 3: how well do they think you? And I don't know 218 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 3: that you're going to get that, you know when you're 219 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 3: you know, asking their previous coaching staff either, So you 220 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 3: really got to do a good job. 221 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: How do you do that? Well? 222 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 3: I think the big the biggest thing. It's kind of 223 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 3: like that, you know what the NBA has done with scouting. 224 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 3: I mean you uh, you know if I would go 225 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: Historically at San Diego State, you know, we never took kids, 226 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 3: uh transfers that we didn't already recruit, you know, so 227 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 3: we had a really good feel for these guys ahead 228 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 3: of time. We knew them from high school. We knew them, 229 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 3: we knew their AAU coaches, we knew all the people. 230 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 3: We had seen them play multiple times as young kids 231 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 3: going on up, had them on campus even a lot 232 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 3: of times. So you know, there wasn't that foreign where 233 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 3: you're just watching a kid in on their video and 234 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 3: then making a decision based on a one or two 235 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 3: week courtship, you know, makes sense? 236 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: Makes sense? What about uh just quick snapshot in the 237 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: women's game. Like, guys, this is the first time I 238 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: can ever remember dudes like legit sitting down and watching 239 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: and being into the women's game in Kaitlyn Clark when 240 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: you're coaching women's basketball. How much of that you know 241 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: in terms of I mean, she comes down, she's like Steph, dude, 242 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: she's pulling. And I know Sabrina was like that a 243 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: little bit too, But maybe it was because it's an 244 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: organ and didn't have the power of the big ten days, 245 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: because she didn't go to the national championship game. It 246 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: just didn't feel like it was as much of a 247 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 1: thing as the Caitlin Clark thing is in your world? Now, 248 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: how much of a thing? How impactful is she? 249 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, she's definitely obviously impactful. I think it's 250 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 3: really more or less about my world. I just think 251 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 3: in general, like you just said, the fact that you 252 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 3: have everybody that's very aware and watching, there's a lot 253 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 3: of eyes, you know, But I think she's not the 254 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 3: only one. I mean, and I'll you you go to 255 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 3: out West and you look at I think it's interesting 256 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 3: because you talked about we were just talking about the 257 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 3: PAC twelve for men's basketball, where the PAC twelve. For 258 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 3: the women's basketball's got I think six teams that are 259 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 3: ranked in the top twenty. I mean there's a and 260 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 3: record crowds at some of these games. So I do 261 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 3: think there's the interest in women's sports overall has grown, 262 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 3: and I think the respect for the women as athletes 263 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 3: has grown. And I think some of it starts too 264 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 3: with how much the you know, the men's basketball. You 265 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 3: look at some of the NBA players and you know, 266 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 3: you see them coming to the w NBA games or 267 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 3: to even to the college games, people like Steph Curry 268 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 3: having you know, the three point. 269 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 4: Contest, you know, with Sabrina. 270 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 3: I think that all those things are showing that, you 271 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 3: know that if pro athletes respect those female athletes, why 272 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 3: wouldn't the average guys sitting at home? 273 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: You know? 274 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 3: And I think, honestly, sometimes you know, men's basketball in 275 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 3: general is a little bit watered down, hasn't been the 276 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 3: same product that it was as well in terms of 277 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 3: team basketball. 278 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 279 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 280 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 281 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 2: listen live. 282 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: On Monday, March eleventh. You can pre register for the 283 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Bracket Challenge at Foxsports Radio dot com. 284 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: Don't miss your chance to win the ultimate college sports 285 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: trip for you and a friend a Graduate Hotels. Fox 286 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: Sports Radios Bracket Challenge is brought to you by graduate 287 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: hotels where college fans stay. Let's go through. Let's go through. 288 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: The rules are different, okay, sir? Fourth quarter to ten minutes, right, 289 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: five fouls each quarter for the bonus. Right, it's the 290 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: double bonus or it's always double bonus. 291 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 3: Now it's uh, it's a good even question. But I 292 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 3: think it's just automatically two free throws. My mind's blanking 293 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 3: on that one. 294 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: Good. I'm apprecire, which is that I don't know the 295 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: word is. I don't know. You need to google, you 296 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: die jogle on the old iPad, whatever you do it. 297 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 4: But but the point is, and then. 298 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: What's the what's the last minute? What's the what's the 299 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: rule on the vent? 300 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 4: Timeout? Advance in the last minute? 301 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 3: As long as you just like the NBA, if you 302 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 3: call a timeout without moving or on a made basket 303 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 3: or on a rebound without uh, you know, either taking 304 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 3: a dribble or passing, you can time out advance. So 305 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 3: it totally changes the game because in the last minute 306 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 3: of the game, a ten point lead is not a 307 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 3: guaranteed secure if you know, and so it also changes 308 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 3: when you use your timeouts. So there's a lot of 309 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 3: strategy involved there as well as the end of game. 310 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 3: So we were just talking. You know, you just look 311 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 3: last night two games in the Mountain West. Uh, there 312 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 3: was game deciding plays. Right Justin lost to Utah State. 313 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 3: Guy hit a three with one point three seconds to go. 314 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: Why didn't they fall? 315 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you that, you know, I don't know 316 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 3: that for sure. But one of the problems Justin has 317 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 3: is he's down. He's down to six scholarship players. He 318 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 3: started five guards. So it's very possible that he said, 319 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 3: you know what, if I fiul right now, they might 320 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 3: be able to easily win the game on an offensive 321 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 3: rebound because we got a bunch of sixty three guards. 322 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 3: I don't have anybody who's gonna block out there and 323 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 3: come over the top of us, you know. So there's 324 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 3: a lot of other strategy that could go into that 325 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 3: on the upside downside. But the point is, they hit 326 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 3: a shot with one point three seconds, Well, if you 327 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: have a time out in timeout advance one point three seconds. 328 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 3: That's enough time to get a shot on a sideline 329 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 3: out of bounds. 330 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: When you when you when you advance, when you advance 331 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: under a minute, but like fifty seconds ago, does it 332 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: cut the shot clock? Because like a diva, if you advance, 333 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: it cuts to the shot talk to fourteen. Do you 334 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: know that role? 335 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 4: Either you know that part? That part I don't know. 336 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 4: I don't even know. 337 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 3: I haven't even paid attention to that, but that but 338 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 3: it's really doesn't even matter because you're you're you're usually 339 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 3: doing it because they're either you're either doing it on 340 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 3: the when you're down to try and score you know, 341 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 3: quicker and shave time off the clock, so you're shot 342 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 3: clocks on an issue, or you're doing it because you 343 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 3: don't want to go the leak to the floor and 344 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 3: you know, uh, like they're going to press you so 345 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 3: you get the ball inbounds and then you know they're 346 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 3: going to value you. Know, So those are the reasons 347 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 3: why you're going to do it, But it also means 348 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,479 Speaker 3: you've got to there's a whole other level of uh, 349 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 3: you know, coaching and strategy that goes into all those things. 350 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: Gets yet the Mounts. 351 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, And it's funny because in the in 352 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 3: the Florida Atlantic San Diego State game in the in 353 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 3: the semi finals, you know, Florida Atlantic called the time 354 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 3: out and there their last offensive possession of the game, 355 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 3: and UH allowed not only Dutch to put in his 356 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 3: defensive lineup. But I remember sitting next to somebody and 357 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 3: I said, you know, women's basketball, they have so many 358 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 3: more sideline out of bounds. You know they're gonna they're 359 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: much more efficient at getting the ball inbounds or running 360 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 3: their action, whereas in men's basketball, you don't have that 361 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 3: many sideline out of balance, and they might have struggle 362 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 3: to get it in. And sure enough, if you recall, 363 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 3: they had to call a time out another time out 364 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 3: to get the ball in and barely got it in. 365 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 3: So you know, those are those are real things. And 366 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 3: I think again, you watch in the NBA, they do 367 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 3: it all the time. And I think one of the 368 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 3: other things it does is it allows more close games, 369 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 3: which you know, people, that's why they did the elam 370 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 3: ending in the tv T. I mean, people want to 371 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,479 Speaker 3: see closer games. They want to see things that you know, 372 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 3: come down to the wire game winning shots and when 373 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 3: he plays, and there's definitely more strategy. So I think, 374 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 3: you know, it's crazy that really college men's basketball is 375 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 3: the only one that's still playing halves. 376 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 4: No one else. 377 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 3: There's no other game that where they're doing that. And 378 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 3: I think it has more to do with media timeouts 379 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: and how many you get at it a math on 380 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 3: that maybe they get one extra timeout in there, but 381 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 3: you know. 382 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 4: You could still figure out a way to do it. 383 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: So you get with the twelve, the sixteen, the twelve, 384 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: the eight, the four, So you get four timeouts, right. 385 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 3: And I think I think you get one. I'm not 386 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 3: talking about that, I'm talking about the first I think 387 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 3: time out what is the media as well or something, 388 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 3: But in in in women's in women's basketball, it's it's 389 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 3: you get one at the at the five minute mark, 390 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 3: and then obviously the quarter is going to be a 391 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 3: time out as well, and then you get the first 392 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:38,479 Speaker 3: one in the second half is automatically a media that 393 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 3: you call, someone calls, so you do get that. But 394 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 3: I think that again, strategy as far as the game 395 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 3: goes and all the other stuff, it totally changes, because 396 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 3: like you talked about, whether you're in the bonus or 397 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 3: not and it resets. And because I you know, I 398 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 3: think you know, you see in some games early in 399 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 3: the second half or something and the team gets in 400 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 3: foul trouble Earli they're in the bonus in seven fouls, 401 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 3: and you know it's that becomes a long game for 402 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 3: a team that's in the bonus. Whereas you get you 403 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 3: do get the ability to reset. Now, the other side 404 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 3: of it is if you can get a couple of 405 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 3: quick fouls and you can get in the bonus fast 406 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 3: in a quarter. So but I think it makes a 407 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 3: huge difference in the way the games played, especially at 408 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 3: the end. And it's crazy that everybody's in denial over 409 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 3: why they that they shouldn't do it. You know again, 410 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 3: I'm looking right now just last night with Jared Lucas 411 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 3: in a half. 412 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 4: Court shot for Nevada. It was a hell of a shot. 413 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 3: But I mean in a normal game that you time 414 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 3: out advance right there and you're running a set play 415 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 3: from half court, you've got plenty of time. And same 416 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 3: thing even for you know, probably both those ending game 417 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 3: that that shot that you tuss eight needed, they're running 418 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 3: a side line out of balance to get a shot, 419 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 3: not running a full court play that ends up in 420 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 3: a hail Mary. 421 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. I like the I like the fever rules. 422 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: The best to be honest with you, and you know 423 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: that one is it's it's quarters. You can't call live 424 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: ball timeouts. You also, when you're gonna call a timeout, 425 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: like you turn, you just do it to the table, 426 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: which I love because getting these guys attention and oh yeah, 427 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: by the way, it's like it's kind of an impossible 428 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: ask to get somebody's attention during the game anyway, right 429 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: when they're actually doing their job. But I like the 430 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: you asked the table for it. I like the fourteen 431 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: second I like twenty four second shot clock honestly, which 432 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm that's that's not something that previous to the last 433 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: five six years I would have said. I like the 434 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: twenty four second shot clock. I like the fourteen second 435 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: reset on the offensive rebound. They have the advance. I 436 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: think at any time you could advance, but if you do, 437 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: you get you know, fourteen on the clock, and then 438 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: their deal is you get I think three timeouts a half, 439 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: but only two under the last two minutes, so you 440 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: just don't get like time out of time out. Now 441 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,479 Speaker 1: that The problem with actually the Fever game is it 442 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: moves too fast, believe it or not, Like it really 443 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: goes too fast because now they don't have they don't 444 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: always have the built in media timeouts. I just think 445 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: you do the fever rules the timeouts at the five, 446 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm just surprised that they can't make 447 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: it work. I'm guessing it's that extra timeout that you 448 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: get because that's super valuable real estate. But there's got 449 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: to be a way to work around that, you know, 450 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: extend halftime. I don't know, throwing an extra timeout and 451 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: each half its gonna be that hard. 452 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 3: Well, you'd make one of your time out one time 453 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 3: out each half a media or something automatically either, which 454 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 3: is the first one that people call, you know, that 455 00:22:58,440 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 3: kind of thing. 456 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 4: But I mean there's ways around it. 457 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 3: I mean, I just think people get stuck in not 458 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 3: seeing it if you haven't done it, you know. So, 459 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I think I think it'd be would be 460 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:16,959 Speaker 3: interesting to see how people manage that. But it definitely 461 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 3: changes the strategy of the game and how it's being played, 462 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 3: and not just that, but obviously how you prepare, you know. 463 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 3: Uh So, I mean I watched so many game winning plays, 464 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 3: and in the NBA as well as in women's basketball, 465 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 3: where that you know, there's there's you got to you. 466 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 4: Got to have all kinds of timeouts. 467 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 3: I thought actually a couple of weeks ago, Oregon State 468 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 3: beat U c l A. Organ State women beat U 469 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 3: c l A. And they had one point one and 470 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 3: they had two timeouts left, and they called it. They 471 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 3: ran a sideline out of bounds and and they didn't 472 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 3: like what they got, and they called another time out, 473 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 3: and it was I mean, again, those things, Yeah, maybe 474 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 3: maybe you're able to do that regardless in a huddle, 475 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 3: but I think because someone like Scott Rook or women's 476 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 3: basketball coach has the experience or an NBA coach has 477 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 3: the experience of having done it so much that they know, hey, 478 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 3: we got another time out, so if you don't like it, 479 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 3: just call another call one and we'll set up a 480 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 3: second play. So they didn't like what they got, and 481 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 3: they set up a second play and ended up hitting 482 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 3: the game winning three. You know, and those are two 483 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 3: ranked teams, and that was a big win for Oregon State. 484 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 3: But again, those are I mean, those things come with 485 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 3: experience of having been in those situations so many times, 486 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 3: you know, at least as the coach, and then preparing 487 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 3: your team for that kind of stuff. 488 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: Sideline out of bounds philosophy, what's your do you have 489 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: any like hard and fast? We can't do anything without this. 490 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 3: Well, the first thing is you've got to make sure 491 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 3: you think about all the other things. But you got 492 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 3: to figu out who's going to pass. You know, the 493 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 3: person taking the ball out of bounds might be the 494 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 3: most important person again. 495 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: Right right, most important most important person person thinking the 496 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: ball bounds. Second most important person is who's gonna catch it? 497 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, dependent you know, and I think then you then 498 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 3: you where about everything else? 499 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: So do you are you like a I want a bigger, 500 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: bigger person taking the ball of the bounds? Well, my 501 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: best passer, even if they're a point guard and they're small, 502 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: Like what's the philosophy? 503 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 4: Yeah? 504 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 3: Again, all those things you got to you want to 505 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 3: prepare ahead of time too, to know, all right, at 506 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 3: the end of the game, do they put someone on 507 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 3: the ball, do they have them off or then man 508 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 3: the zone? You know, all the different things that you know, 509 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 3: and what are you going to do if there's two seconds? 510 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 3: What if you do if there's four seconds? What if 511 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 3: you know you have to have a you know, do 512 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 3: we need a two? Do we need a three? There's 513 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 3: a lot of different things that go into that too. 514 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 3: So that's what I'm saying, You're going to have to 515 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 3: have a handful of plays. You're gonna have to make 516 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 3: sure your team understands, you know, what we're trying to accomplish, 517 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 3: how much time we have, you know, all those different 518 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 3: things really go into effect. But I think it starts. 519 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 3: You've got to figure out who's going to take it out, 520 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 3: you know, and because you can't and it's no different 521 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 3: if the ball's baseline baseline out of bounce. But again, 522 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 3: and you know, on the sideline is because you're calling 523 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 3: a timeout on purpose, So you're going to put that 524 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 3: person in there strategically, So you definitely have to have 525 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 3: someone who's going to be there in that situation. And 526 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 3: then obviously, you know what happens if you know, you 527 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 3: work on all these things, and what happens if a 528 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 3: key guys out because he fouled out now now now 529 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 3: it changes everything too, obviously, right, So and then same thing, 530 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 3: do you if you're if you're if it's a two 531 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 3: point game, are you trying to force people to value 532 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 3: you know, are you're going for three? What are you 533 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 3: trying to get accomplished in those things? So and you know, uh, 534 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 3: sometimes that happens. You got you know, you got to 535 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 3: work on situations. But I think sometimes too, you you know, 536 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 3: as the season goes on, you're going to be in 537 00:26:55,240 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 3: those situations. But I think again, because of the ability 538 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 3: to time out advance, you're going to be in those 539 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 3: situations so much more, not just because you can do it, 540 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 3: but because everyone will. Because you know, you can catch 541 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 3: up with people if you're if you're down you know, seven, eight, 542 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 3: nine points, you could still come back. You know, you 543 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,239 Speaker 3: could you know, run a sideline out of bounds, hit 544 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 3: a three foul immediately, you know, call another time out. 545 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 3: And also you know you can you can make up 546 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 3: a lot of ground in a lot less time. So 547 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 3: which is the other reason why I think that I 548 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 3: love the elam ending thing. I mean, they're never going 549 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 3: to do that in college basketball, but I think it's 550 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 3: fun to see how that stuff can work too, because 551 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 3: you got to win on a game winning shot. 552 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I mean, I just value time and score. 553 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 1: I mean that's part of what separates what separates basketball 554 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: from from anything else. And then just score and score. 555 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 3: You know, well you just have you have to do 556 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 3: it and have done it before. But I think you're right. 557 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 3: But from the you're also never out of it. So 558 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 3: if you're in a game, uh, and you're down fifteen 559 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 3: or whatever, you know you could still come back because 560 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 3: if you get stops and you got to win a shot. 561 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 4: So it changes the game. 562 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 3: Like you said, time and score, you can't just hold 563 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 3: the ball, but now now you got to get a shot. 564 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 3: You know, you got to score to win two. So 565 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 3: you know that makes them just changes the way the 566 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 3: game's played. 567 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: You know, no question, you're talking to the guy who 568 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: authored the greatest comeback in the history of tvt right 569 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: down twenty six to New Mexico right to Team Enchantment. 570 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: And they had never seen a diamond press, but they impressed. 571 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: They didn't prepare for a diamond press. But the one 572 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: thing about the elm ending is it's a lot like 573 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: pickup ball, right where you know the target score number. 574 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, we need is we need a six? 575 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: Like dude two threes? Right, instead of just thinking like 576 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: man three, two's into the game, you know, or you're 577 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: it's it's three to it, so he just heed taking three. 578 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's that's that's again, that's just the figuring 579 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 3: out the strategy. I mean, we're all in that thing 580 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 3: where you know, same thing. I mean, if you're if 581 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 3: you're down three with thirty seconds to go and you 582 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 3: have if you have the ball, even if you didn't 583 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 3: have any timeouts, if you're down three with thirty seconds 584 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 3: to go, I mean, in all likelihood, I mean, if 585 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 3: you'd ask ninety percent of coaches, I'm not going for three. 586 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 3: I'm trying to get to the basket and I'm gonna 587 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 3: try and extend the game when they don't want to foul, 588 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 3: and I'm gonna try and get a layup. I'm gonna 589 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,239 Speaker 3: try and get something going to the rim, and then 590 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 3: i'm gonna, you know, set my press up or whatever. 591 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 4: I'm going to try and foul and. 592 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 3: Then we're gonna we're gonna keep going. 593 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 4: We're going to play that. 594 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 3: Way, you know. Now some people say, well, if we're 595 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 3: on the road, this, that and the other. But i 596 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 3: mean it's all time and score dictated like to your. 597 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: Point, right, right yep, So yep, yep. 598 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 3: Regardless, I just think there's those are all things that 599 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 3: can make the game more fun than people watching. You know, obviously, 600 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 3: you know how many people turn off the game when 601 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 3: there's if it's you know, a twenty point lead. You know, 602 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 3: now in the NBA, how many times you turn off 603 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 3: the game there's a twenty point lead in the you know, 604 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 3: the beginning of the fourth quarter, and then you're saying, wait, 605 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 3: what happened? 606 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 4: They won? 607 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 3: You know, so it happens, I mean won, that's more time. 608 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 3: There's a little more time in the NBA. But you know, 609 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 3: twenty point leading the NBA is not secure, so it's 610 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 3: totally true. 611 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: But again, that's also a twelve you know, twelve minute, 612 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: twelve minute quarter and twenty four second shot. So you know, 613 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: there's a there's a certain kind of there's a certain 614 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: math to it. Okay, so you're back in the Mountain West. Okay, 615 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: give me, is there a place like when I go 616 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: to Albuquerque, I always go to I think it's called 617 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: Satellite Coffee and they have a Mexican latte which is 618 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: freaking good. It's called like cinnamon in it, a little spicy. 619 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: Give me, give me a place that you hit back 620 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: up now being back in the Mountain West. You're like, man, 621 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: I have been here forever. When you get theady like 622 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: this is still here, that's a great question. 623 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 3: But honest, I mean you're talking you're not talking about 624 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 3: a lot of I mean you'd say Vegas. We haven't 625 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 3: been to Vegas yet. You know, Fort Collins is that 626 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 3: there's a really nice hotel that we stayed at in 627 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 3: Fort Collins that I don't think it existed when I 628 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 3: was there, and it's right downtown, so you get a 629 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 3: wave different feel for Fort Collins. That was really pretty cool. 630 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 3: I think that was really pretty cool. But you know, 631 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 3: we didn't have a spot New Mexico actually, and I 632 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 3: can't remember the name, but there was a I was 633 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 3: out here a couple of weeks ago recruiting and I 634 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 3: kind of fell into this coffee shop that's that's really 635 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 3: good and I can't remember the name. It's not the 636 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 3: place you're talking about, but it's one of those places 637 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 3: where they got a really good, you know, a handful 638 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 3: of like foreign coffees and they do a drip cup 639 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 3: and it was really a cool, really cool vibe, good 640 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 3: spot and I would totally go back. So that place 641 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 3: was pretty cool. 642 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: Way you're there, now you're not going back because you 643 00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: don't know where it is. 644 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 4: I just don't. 645 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 3: I don't have time and I don't have a car, 646 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 3: so you know, I'm not gonna have the bus take me. 647 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, but no, uh uh, you know. And then 648 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 3: there's some teams that weren't in the Mountain West. I 649 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 3: mean Nevada, San Jose State and Fresno weren't even in 650 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 3: the Mountain West when I was in the league. Many 651 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,719 Speaker 3: moons Ago, nor both Boise, so I had Actually that's 652 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 3: the first time I played at Boise was this year. 653 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 3: Cool Boise is another cool spot. Yeah, and they got 654 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 3: and actually they had a pretty good crowd for our game. 655 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 3: I was impressed. So really, that's I just named four 656 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 3: teams that weren't even in the Mountain West. And obviously 657 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 3: ut Wuyu aren't in the league anymore. The best part 658 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 3: about Laramie, Wyoming they got a nice hotel. Now they 659 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 3: didn't used to have that. You know, you stay in 660 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 3: that motel. 661 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: That arena's cool, by the way. I love what they 662 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: did to that place. 663 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a nice arena. I think it's kind of 664 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 3: weird how they that one little angle there's with the seats. 665 00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 3: It's a little a little odd, but great fans, great crowd, 666 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 3: you know, and you have to kind of go there 667 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 3: at least to experience it regardless, you know. So and 668 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 3: obviously the pit is historic and so that that's always cool. 669 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 3: You know, we're gonna we're gonna go there today for 670 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 3: shoot around and you know we got to do the 671 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 3: roll the ball up the up the ramp, see who 672 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 3: can get to the top. Yeah, I mean that that's 673 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 3: pretty much a given standard issue, right Okay. 674 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like Wyoming where they have the altitude 675 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: on the court and then right before you walk out, 676 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: you know, be hazardous to your health. 677 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 3: That's great, I mean play the mind game, yeah, totally, totally, 678 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 3: you know, I mean there's so there's a there's a 679 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 3: lot of cool spots. 680 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 4: I think the best part is just seeing. 681 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 3: You know, definitely the there's a you really appreciate the 682 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 3: level of interest in basketball, you know, in the Mountain West. 683 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 3: I think all you gotta do is just see the arenas, 684 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 3: even in the or and they all have practice facilities 685 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 3: and you know that are really nice. 686 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 4: And so there's definitely been a commitment. 687 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 3: Same thing, you know, Utah State that was the first 688 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 3: time we played it, I played at Utah State was 689 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 3: this year they weren't in the league either, and obviously 690 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 3: they have. 691 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 4: Great commitment there as well. So I mean, there's a 692 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 4: there's a lot of cool spots justate. 693 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: It's interesting because it's so they have that the s 694 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: the center is really nice. The arena is perfect, like 695 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,240 Speaker 1: really nice. But like, dude, you got to redo those seats, 696 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: the seventies seats, and it's a big thing for them 697 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: to like, well, it's kind of always our thing, like 698 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: just take out the seats, put in blue seats. It'll 699 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 1: be amazing. 700 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 4: You know. 701 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're probably right, except for when the you know, 702 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 3: when they got to sell out. No one knows what 703 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 3: the color of the seats are anyway, so you know, 704 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 3: I mean I always say the best arenas are the 705 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:45,439 Speaker 3: packed ones. 706 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: You know. 707 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 4: There's plenty of games that I played in when there's no. 708 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 3: There's there's a lot of fans dressed as seats in 709 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 3: some of these other games, you know. So, and I 710 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 3: think that's really one of the other advantages the Mountain 711 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 3: West has is they don't lose a lot of home games. 712 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 3: I mean, you look around on the men's side, you 713 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 3: got how many teams have twenty wins right now? Twenty plus, 714 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 3: you know, and you look at the PAC twelve and 715 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 3: you go, how many teams have twenty wins? It's crazy. 716 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 3: How many teams in PAC twelve have fifteen wins right 717 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 3: now or less? 718 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 4: You know. 719 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 3: But also I was not even close in attendance wise, 720 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 3: So I mean it's not an advantage. You know, you 721 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 3: used to be. Stanford just be a really hard place 722 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 3: to go and play in terms of crowd wise. I mean, 723 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 3: no one goes to the Stanford games right now, you know, 724 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 3: I mean nobody. And you know, no one goes to 725 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 3: the cow games. They just started finally getting some good crowds. 726 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 3: They've had a couple of them, but not really, not 727 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 3: all of them. But you know, and I'm just giving 728 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 3: you a couple of examples, but those are places where, 729 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 3: like you know, it should be hard to play. But 730 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 3: I mean, if you go in the Mount West, I mean, 731 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 3: they're they're drawn like crazy, and really I mean, and 732 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 3: you know, obviously can talk about all of them, but 733 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 3: still in the Mount West, the best place to play 734 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 3: is still you know, San Diego st facts. So it's 735 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 3: hard to be hard to beat, all. 736 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: Right, man. Thanks to my boy Greg. He'll join us 737 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 1: here throughout March as we get ready for the NCAA tournament. 738 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: Give us the thoughts on what it's really like to 739 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: prepare for these conference tournament championships. We're gonna start pumping 740 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: more and more of these all balls out because this 741 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: is that time of year. So hope you enjoyed it. 742 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: Remember to download rate Review, subscribe to it. 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