1 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: You know, parents, they're great. They could let you down though. 2 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: Friends definitely let you down. Government let you down. But 3 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: the lake Kick Extra podcast did not let you down. 4 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: The other day. At the very end, for those of 5 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: you who stayed tuned in, I told you and I winked, 6 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: even though it was audio only, something was coming. It's 7 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: like Jurassic Park. There's the drum beat, there's the water rippling, 8 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden bamm. Colorado's now headed to 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: the Big twelve. Lake Kick is live. It is Thursday, 10 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: July twenty seventh, the Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty three. 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: We're actually jampacked high top Lucas Oil Stadium as they 12 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: tear down Big Ten media days behind me. Yeah, no 13 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: conference expansion in the Big Ten, but we cannot say 14 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: the same elsewhere. Now, I know a lot of people 15 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: have given you a lot of takes on this, so 16 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna waste time delivering the news to you. Yeah, 17 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: Colorado just wrapped it up in formality's sake a little 18 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: while ago. They're headed to the Big twelve. This had 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: as such a big ripple effect well beyond Colorado, well 20 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: beyond the Big twelve, and maybe in a different way 21 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: than a lot of people are thinking about, which is 22 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: the way we try and go about it on this show. 23 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: I have got bold predictions tonight, I have got what 24 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: ifs Tonight Later on the channel, I will have Luke Fickel. 25 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: We sat down with him today, We sat down with 26 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: Matt Rule today. It's been a chore getting this show 27 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: on air, but hopefully you don't notice the difference. They 28 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: are watching us in Beaumont, Texas, Avon, Indiana, which Gig 29 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 1: tells me is just up the room, Fort Lauderdale, Florida. 30 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: Saint Louis, Missouri. Thank you so much for being tuned in. 31 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: If you're listening on podcast. Yes, it is that. Once 32 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: a year or so, I actually do the show with 33 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: a handheld microphone, mainly just to switch it up if 34 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: nothing more. So here we go. Colorado is headed back 35 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: to the Big Twelve. Yes, kids, Colorado used to be there, 36 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: so they're headed back to the Big twelve. Board of 37 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: Regents met today. That was a formality. I assume they 38 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: informed the Big Twelve. That's the classic thing to do 39 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: on your way out the door and PAC twelve as well. 40 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: But that was a formality. Let me tell you the 41 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: first thing I thought about when this news I got 42 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: presented like four months ago. Honestly, a lot of people 43 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: have kind of known this was coming, although our friends 44 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: on the West Coast, in some cases presidents and commissioners 45 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: on the West Coast tried to deny it. I've hinted 46 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: it this for a while, so a lot of you 47 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: guys had already picked up on that, and then last 48 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: week pretty much knew what was coming this week. So 49 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: I let you know as much as I could now 50 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: that it's happened, even as you had folks at Pack 51 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: twelve media days telling you expansions over in realignments over. 52 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: Now that it's happened, I want you guys to think 53 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: about this. Most of you are not Colorado fans. Some 54 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: of you may not even be Big twelve fans, but 55 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: you're all college football fans. I have that on good authority, 56 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: or you wouldn't be watching the show. Do you guys 57 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: care about the playoff at all? Do you care about 58 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: the structure of the sport On that question, I get 59 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: a yes from most of you. So I'm hanging out 60 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: with Uncle Dennis down there, who, by the way, nailed this. 61 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 1: A lot of you ridiculed my uncle Dennis, and he 62 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 1: nailed this, so he's not going to take a victory lap. 63 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: I will for him. I was talking Uncle Dennis, and 64 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: I said, Uncle, let me ask you something. You keep 65 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: up with these sorts of things. How much certainty is 66 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: there in the college football Playoff beyond twenty twenty five? 67 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: And he said, nothing go on? And I said, well, 68 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: it seems to me that if the Pac twelve is 69 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: imploding in on itself like a dying star, and you 70 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: have the SEC and the Big Ten becoming what they 71 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 1: have become, seems to me, Uncle Dennis, that why would 72 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: we go into a new college football Playoff contract, which 73 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: is about to be negotiated, by the way, and have 74 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: the SEC in the Big Ten agree to the same 75 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: amount of auto bids for conference champs that we're about 76 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: to see for the next two years. Because for the 77 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: next two years there are six guaranteed spots in the 78 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: College Football Playoff for the highest ranked conference champs, and 79 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: then you've also got six at large's six plus six 80 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: equals twelve twelve team field. You know that, drill. You're 81 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: crazy if you think I'm leading the SEC or the 82 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: Big Ten and I'm gonna sign my name on a 83 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: piece of paper that still guarantees that, and it's not 84 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: so much for the health of the sport. You know 85 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: my feelings on this. I don't like any of the realignment. 86 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: I love territoriality in college football, but we're way way 87 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: past having that genie out of the bottle. So if 88 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: I were to go role play for you on a second, 89 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: I were to say I'm Greg Sanki, or I'm a 90 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: new Big Ten commissioner, or i am the replacement for 91 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: Bill Hancock at the head of the College Football Playoff? 92 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: Are we really about to enter into a world where 93 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: I think the Pac twelve champ still has the same 94 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: shot at being in the playoff as the secs. I 95 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: would I would never voluntarily, I'm saying, enter into that 96 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: kind of agreement. I don't think they will like that 97 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: is the big takeaway. That's the big thing to watch 98 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: down the road, and it's going to take a couple 99 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: of years, But down the road, I don't think there's 100 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: a lot known about the future of the playoff. Now, 101 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: the Big Twelve, it's an interesting thing happening right here. 102 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: You got the SEC, you got the Big Ten, The 103 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: Big Twelve somehow found away and Brett Yormart, new Big 104 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: twelve commissioner, somehow found a way to lose Oklahoma and 105 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: Texas and look like an aggressor. Any other person out there, 106 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: any other old school bow tie administrative sort of commissioner 107 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: would cower. They would go into a clamshell and it 108 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: would be all about hiring firms and it would be 109 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: all about reading prepared statements. Oh, by the way, your 110 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: mark in the Big twelve put out a statement. I 111 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: actually memorized the whole thing, the entire conference statement. I 112 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: have memorized because they released it about an hour ago, 113 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: and it's two words their back. That's the kind of 114 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: stuff I would do if I ran a conference. That's 115 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: why they don't let me run conferences. Brett Yormark released 116 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: a two word statement on adding a new member institution 117 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: today being the Colorado Buffaloes. When they got ahead of 118 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve in line and they signed that new 119 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: media rights deal, that was a surefire sign. When they 120 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: have seemed steadfast both in front of the camera and 121 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: off the record via reporting from well sourced reporters on 122 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: every step of the way on this, that was another 123 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 1: telltale sign. And I'll tell you something else, that I 124 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: was hearing consistently that I'll just I'll let you know. Now, 125 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of people in our space. 126 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,559 Speaker 1: I don't mean the commentary space, I mean the actual 127 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: nuts and bolts reporting of this. I think a lot 128 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: of them were even ahead of the curve and knew 129 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: more in some cases than George Klivekoff and a lot 130 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: of the university presidents out on the West Coast. I 131 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: don't know how much those presidents were being told. That's 132 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: why it looks so stupid right now. Like I've looked 133 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: on Twitter and I've seen you guys all day, as 134 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: you should. You've been sharing those clips from back twelve 135 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: Media Day last week where they were so adamant, Oh, 136 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: it's over, We're good, We're fine now. And meanwhile I'm 137 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: sitting in Nashville thinking to myself, no, you're not. And 138 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: I know that's coming, Like I had very good knowledge 139 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: that this was coming. So if I know it, how 140 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: do you not know it? And it's either they lied 141 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: to your face or they were taken aback by this, 142 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: and either way it's bad. You could argue which thing 143 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: is worse, but either way it's bad. So what about 144 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve because I hate this, like real talk now, 145 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: even though I grew up in the rural South, I 146 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: like coast to coast quality college football. And I'm sort 147 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: of with the rest of you guys teetering on the 148 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: brink of not having valid football being played what west 149 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: of the Rockies, I guess I'm not telling you there 150 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: won't be football I care about. You know what I 151 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: mean when I say this, I mean on the national scale. 152 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: I look at some of what I grew up on, 153 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: and a lot of those teams have changed conferences and affiliations, 154 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: and the conference itself has already been on one broken 155 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: leg and one hobbled leg, And it looked like this 156 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: year was going to be a nice little springboard towards rerelevancy. 157 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: And now I don't know what's going to happen here. 158 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: I think it would be very foolish if you were 159 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: to zoom out a little bit and you look at 160 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: the fact that three of these schools have bailed in 161 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, not one. Don't get caught 162 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: up on. Just today, USC said bye, UCLA said by 163 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: Colorado said bye. Do we really think that's it? Now? 164 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm not hinting at anything in the coming days or weeks. 165 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying, do we really think that's it? I was 166 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: so interested to and I still would be so interested 167 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: to hear from a lot of the folks at Utah 168 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: or the folks at Oregon and the folks at Washington, 169 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: and you never know what's going on behind the scenes there. 170 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: But let's just say there's nothing. Okay, let's just say 171 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: they're chilling and they love that PAC twelve sticker on 172 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: their helmet. How do they feel today? I mean, how 173 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: do they feel about being a member of a conference 174 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: that has such an uncertain future. There's no way that 175 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: I think that conference maintains its competitive integrity, is what 176 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: I'm telling you. I don't like saying that. I would 177 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: love to run interference for the conference. I would love 178 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: to carry water for them, and I'd love to pretend 179 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: that everything's okay. It's not. So that's how I feel 180 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: about this. I always save my feelings for the end 181 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: on a breaking news day. I hate the shift. But 182 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,599 Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, we're in the weeds. You 183 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: know everyone's talking about Colorado today. I know there have 184 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: been rumors about FSU and Miami. I know nothing about that. 185 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: For the record, but there have been rumors about individual 186 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: schools zooming out. Guys, just zoom it out and ask 187 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: yourself and be selfish for a second. Everyone else in 188 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: this sport is be selfish for a second. If you 189 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: run the Big Ten, if you run the SEC, are 190 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: you seriously two years or maybe just eighteen months from now, 191 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: gonna sit at a boardroom table and say, sure, we'll 192 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: voluntarily agree, even though we're a superpower conference will agree 193 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: to a format that guarantees six automatic berths in the 194 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: college football playoff, two conference champs that are ranked the highest. 195 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: Why would you ever do that? Why would anyone in 196 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: a room full of folks who mainly care about money, 197 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: you know they say otherwise? Why would they voluntarily give 198 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: up any of that? Has anyone cracked a history book 199 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: open lately? Like? Is that ever? How this works? And 200 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: so I know today it's about expansion and realignment. I'm 201 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: kind of tired of talking about it. I do think 202 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: the coming conversation will be about how that playoff that 203 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: everyone fought so hard to expand, everyone but me fought 204 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: so hard to expand. I wonder how that thing's going 205 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: to be structured in the next go around, not this one. 206 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: In the next go around. They're watching us all over 207 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: the place. We appreciate it. Man, our crew had to 208 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: fight to get us on air today, but we are 209 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: live as live can be here in Indianapolis. I'm going 210 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: to talk about the Big Ten media Days a little 211 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: bit later in the show. I spoke to half a 212 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: dozen or more coaches, seven or eight coaches, and got 213 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: some really good stuff. Some of it's already on the channel, 214 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: some of it will be on the channel later, and 215 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: subscribe while you're there, please. It's what if season, and 216 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: we've had a lot of them, and we got some 217 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: more good ones tonight. And so these are just things 218 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: that we're not necessarily predicting, but they could happen. So 219 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: we want to be on the record as having talked 220 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: about it if they do happen. But in the meantime, 221 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: let me just hit you with some of these and 222 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: these are submitted by you, These are not mine. What 223 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: happens if everyone's wrong, including Vegas about Miami. What happens 224 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: if Miami wins the ACC? Well, I think we have 225 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: good old fashioned apology tour that most of you won't 226 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: go on with more. Mario Christaball and that's okay, that's fine. 227 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: I think whether you apologize for hating on the guy 228 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: or not, he will have arrived at that point. It'll 229 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: come as a shock to people. And I'm not quite 230 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: sure it should come as a shock because it wouldn't 231 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: be the first time that they've won a conference championship 232 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: where Mario christaball is. It would just be his first 233 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: time at Miami. We were down there, We did a 234 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: show down there. In fact, I think the last time 235 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: we were live on the road was the Miami Show, 236 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: and we saw a lot that we could talk about. 237 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: We saw things that we couldn't talk about, but we 238 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: got a really, really in depth look at the program. Candidly, 239 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: it would surprise me if they won that conference this year. 240 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: It's not out of the realm of possibility. I think 241 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: you would need Clemson to be a little down. There 242 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: are still a couple of rosters that are a little 243 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: bit too superior to Miami. I would think, now here's 244 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: what could change that. If Tyler Van Dyke and Shannon Dawson, 245 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: if that OC quarterback combination really is just lightning in 246 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: a bottle, if some of those young receivers really come through, 247 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: if their defense makes a quantum leap in multiple phases. Yeah, 248 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: I could happen. That happens every year in college football. 249 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: If that were to happen, Yeah, the conversation would have 250 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: to change about Mario Christbaul now. I know that some 251 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: people would probably come up with ways to explain it away. 252 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: And also if the ACC ends up being down this 253 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: year and they're like a three loss team that just 254 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: happens to win the conference, yeah, that'd obviously be a 255 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: little different conversation too. But if Miami wins the ACC, well, 256 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what else would happen. I would love 257 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: to see what happens this postseason. But think about twenty 258 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: twenty four, because I told you guys, and I'm standing 259 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: by this, that's the year they're really building towards down there, 260 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: and they'd they'd love to get a head start on 261 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: those results in twenty twenty three. But if they were 262 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: to win the ACC this year, you think people are 263 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: hyping Florida State right now, take the hype on Florida State, 264 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: turn it up by about three hundred and fifty percent. 265 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: That would be Miami football around July or August of 266 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: next year, and I'd love to watch it, So why 267 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: not next up? Now? I sensed a little sarcasm in 268 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: this next submission. What if the SCC played nine conference 269 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: games and removed the cupcake non conference games in November? Huh? Well, 270 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: right now, they play the toughest schedules in the country, 271 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: so if they remove the cupcake, they would still play 272 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 1: the toughest schedules in the country. I get pushed back 273 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: on this all the time. It's an age old conversation. 274 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: It's an age old debate. Am I crazy about watching 275 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: Georgia or Alabama versus UT Chattanooga? Certainly not. I don't 276 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: waste my time on it, nor do I advise you two. 277 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: Do I love that it comes in November? No, I 278 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: don't love that it happens period, and I would much 279 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: rather it not happened in November. But at the same time, 280 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: I get some of you we can just agree to 281 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: disagree on this. This is fine, This is not condescending. 282 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: I don't want the Reddit threads to go crazy on me. 283 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I've yet to have anyone who makes 284 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: this argument with me explain why playing a cupcake in 285 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: week two is different than playing one in November. The 286 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: games all mean the same. No one has ever informed 287 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: me the games of November count one point five percent, 288 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 1: whereas in October a little bit lesser value on that. 289 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: That has not been explained to me. Secondly, they're all 290 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: out of conference anyway. Thirdly, and this is the point 291 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: I keep going back to on this whole eight versus 292 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: nine conference game debate in the SEC, I love form 293 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: to play nine conference games. Some people have accused me 294 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: of thinking otherwise. No, it's not that. What I've always said, 295 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: and I'll say it once more and then we'll move 296 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: on because we have more things to talk about. Is 297 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: play non conference games. I'm fine with it. That's your decision. 298 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: Just make sure when I look over on the other 299 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: side of the fence at all the folks screaming for 300 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: the SEC to play nine conference games, don't be hitting 301 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: me with you are what your record says you are 302 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: period in December. No you're not. No, you're not. If 303 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: you've got next year, they'll have a sixteen team league. 304 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: You just guaranteed inserting another eight losses inside your conference 305 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: somewhere if you play a nine game conference schedule. Now, 306 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: some of you are saying, yeah, that's the whole point. 307 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: Some other conferences. Are you do that? Hats off to him, Man, 308 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: hats off to him. I don't think those leagues are 309 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: as deep as the SEC, especially when yad o you 310 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: in Texas. I don't think there as deep as the SEC. 311 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: That's not a reason not to play them. It's just 312 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: a reason to understand that you need to change the 313 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: conversation in December, and you need to allow some wiggle 314 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: room in your head for the idea that if they 315 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: do play nine conference games down there, if they remove 316 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: that cupcake you and I hate so much, Well, we 317 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: got to acknowledge the fact that there may be one 318 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: of the four or five best teams in the country 319 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: having two losses coming out of that conference. And if 320 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: you yell play nine, but you scoff at that notion, 321 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: that's where we would have a rub. Otherwise we're kind 322 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: of in agreement. It just doesn't sound that way. Next up, 323 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: since I'm in Indianapolis, since I am at the tail 324 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: end of Big Ten media days, how about this, what 325 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: if the Big Ten West is one of college football's 326 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: best divisions? Interesting? So I sat down with Matt Rule today. 327 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: Great talk. We'll have it on the YouTube channel later. 328 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: He's the new head coach at Nebraska. For those not 329 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: keeping track, I sat down with Luke Fickle. That video 330 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: will also be on the channel from Wisconsin. This is 331 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: a bridge a little bit too far from me this year. 332 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: So to be one of the best, I'm assuming you 333 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: mean top three, and so you've got your own conference 334 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: has the Big Ten East, you got the SEC West, 335 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: probably the SEC East as well. This year the Big 336 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: Ten doesn't have divisions, so hey, the whole concept of 337 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: a division is going away really quickly. So we can 338 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: have this conversation and then kind of retire it. It's 339 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: tough because I look at the talent rosters, I look 340 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: at the lines of scrimmage in that division. They don't 341 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: match up. The quarterbacks probably don't match up. But then again, 342 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: there's this alternate universe and I can kind of picture 343 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: it in my head right now where Tanner Mordecai just 344 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: explodes at Wisconsin. Is your or maybe Jeff Simms talked 345 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: to him today, he just explodes at Nebraska. Maybe Kirk Ferrence, 346 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: come to think of it, I sat down with him 347 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: yesterday too. A lot of name dropping happening a little 348 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: bit too much for my taste right now. But what 349 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: if Iowa. I don't know. They just they scored twenty 350 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: seven per game. It's a novel concept. Could win ten 351 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: if they do that. Yeah, there's that world. But you 352 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: notice how many things I kind of went stat as 353 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: I said it. A lot of that has to come 354 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: together in the coming years as they're upgrading the overall 355 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: coaching caliber in this division, which we'll just eventually bleed 356 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: into the Big twelve when you erode away divisions. That's 357 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: what I'm excited for. I'll talk to you about that 358 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: a little bit later on. Lastly, now, this is a 359 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: scary proposition for my friends down in the boot, but 360 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: we got to read it. So LSU. You know, when 361 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: Brian Kelly was on the show last week, he talked 362 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: about how, yeah, we had to dip into the portal 363 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: a whole lot at dB. Well, my kid us up 364 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: and said, what if those question marks and LSU secondary 365 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: turn out to be just above average? This is an 366 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: interesting question because no one ever, no one ever words 367 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: it this way. It's always they're gonna be loaded with 368 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: potential Thorpe Award winners or they're going to be a landfill. 369 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: Mike said, Hey, what if they're just above average? You know, 370 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: which is more realistic than either of the alternate scenarios. 371 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: If that happens, they'll lose three games minimum, probably, and 372 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: won't go to Atlanta, probably, And some people will look 373 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: and say they regressed year one to year two, probably, 374 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: and that won't necessarily be true. It'll be that one 375 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: of their position groups cost an otherwise really talented team 376 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: an opportunity to achieve more. That's not an LSU problem. 377 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: Football teams have that problem all the time. That's why 378 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: it is. It is very much a complex game. It's 379 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: not ping pong, as much as I may like it 380 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: to be. It's not tennis, it's not golf. It's not 381 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: an individual sport. So you may very well have the 382 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: best quarterback in the country this year for all I 383 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: know in Jaden Daniels that wide receiver room may develop 384 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: tremendous depth. Then who knows, maybe you'd be able to 385 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: score enough to to cancel out average dB play. More 386 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: than likely, LSU's gonna need more than above average dB play. 387 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: And when I say above average, I mean by playoff 388 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: contender caliber standards, not above average by NCAA standards. I 389 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: think if that happened, yeah, I could see that going 390 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: nine and three. There's an eight and four and attend 391 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: and two in there. I would just round it out 392 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: at nine and three. I think a lot of people 393 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: would say some dumb stuff about Brian Kelly and how 394 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: he was a flash in the pan year one and 395 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: have no clue what they're talking about. And I would 396 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: probably talk in December about like I'm talking now, fun 397 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: little batch of what ifs there. You know, here we 398 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 1: are on the road, Academy Sports and Outdoors of course 399 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: making it all possible, and we appreciate them at every turn. 400 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: There were there was a lot of high school practices 401 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: starting up around here. We're in Indiana. I know it's 402 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: happening everywhere, and if you hadn't already started, you're probably 403 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: about to start. High school coaches out there, I am 404 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: telling you the Guardian Caps, they have an academy. It 405 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: is must buy. It is much must purchase for you team. 406 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 1: A lot of you already do it. I just want 407 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: to remind those of you who haven't Academy Sports and 408 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: Outdoors right now, the exclusive provider of those Guardian Caps. 409 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: They insulate you both temperature wise and impact wise. There's 410 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: no downside there. It's a beautiful thing. Academy dot com 411 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: is where you can go if you cannot get those 412 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: in person. Director Colin, I miss him by the way 413 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: down in Nashville. He's showing you that Guardian cap. If 414 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: you're watching on YouTube, if you're listening on podcasts, hey, 415 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: I just described it as well as I possibly can. 416 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: But if you have more questions check them out. Hey. 417 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: You can probably google Guardian caps, or you can just 418 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 1: go to Academy Sports and Outdoors or Academy dot com. 419 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: But Academy always lets us go on the road. Man. 420 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: They take care of us immensely. They bring you the 421 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: show free of charge, and we appreciate them so much. 422 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: Academy and Big Game Dane taking care of me about 423 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: fifty to fifty today. Academy paid the thousands upon thousands 424 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: of dollars that it takes to go on the road 425 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: in Big Game. Dane came off his hip pocket and 426 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: gave me one of his pads. Look at that, so 427 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: I thank him so much. We've been at Big ten 428 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: Media Days for two days. Believe it or not. Feels 429 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: like a little bit longer for various reasons, but we've 430 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: been here. They're tearing down the stage behind us as 431 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: we speak. You know, Michigan was in here today and 432 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: if you're watching the replay of the show, I'm talking 433 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: to you on Thursday, and if you're watching it live, 434 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Michigan was here today and Jim Harbaugh 435 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: came in here fresh off the news he's probably going 436 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: to be suspended the first four games of the year. 437 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: Here's what I'll say about the NCAA stuff, because it's 438 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: already old news. A lot of you came at me 439 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: and said, how in the world is he being suspended 440 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: four games for the equivalent of buying a kidd A hamburger. 441 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: I am with you. We can go on a torch 442 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: and pitchfork quest against the nc DOUBLEA tomorrow and I 443 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: would lock arms with you. Just don't be disingenuous about this. 444 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: He got in trouble because he lied to him, not 445 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: because of the offense. The offense would have garnered him 446 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: a zero game suspension. It was the lying. Now. He 447 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: probably viewed it as a matter of principle, and also 448 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: probably didn't want to run the risk of the NCAA 449 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: dropping an atomic bomb on his program for the equivalent 450 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: of flicking someone on the ear, which they've been known 451 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: to do in the past, so I'm not even saying 452 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: I blame him. They're not going to lose a game 453 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: because of it. They play glorified high school teams to 454 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: start the season, they'll be fine. What I wondered for 455 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: about ten seconds was, Hm, is there a chance? Is 456 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: there even a little bit of a chance that this 457 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,239 Speaker 1: may fracture a locker room? It won't because they're all 458 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: grown men. They've been there forever. He's been building this 459 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: year's version of Michigan, and some of those kids have 460 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: been playing high level football for now three years in 461 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: a row. If anything, and I can't prove this, I 462 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: can't quantify this, but if anything, I think there may 463 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: be a time in November where we're watching Michigan, you know, 464 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: hopefully hit their stride. I think we'll be saying, wow, 465 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: you remember that off the field stuff with Harbor. I 466 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: remember that NCAA suspension. It feels like it kind of 467 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: galvanized them. That's what happens to a veteran team. They're 468 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: very careful to call it a player led team. The 469 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: best ones I'm around always are, and so I don't 470 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: doubt that. I'll tell you what stands out to me. Now, 471 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: imagine saying this to yourself, oh, thirty six months ago, 472 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: Imagine saying, Michigan came to Big Ten media days and 473 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: it almost seemed like Ohio State was an afterthought. The 474 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: Big Ten Championship almost felt like an afterthought. It's the 475 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: college football playoff in the national Championship, because those are 476 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: the only two hurdles that they have not cleared. I'm 477 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: not telling they're overlooking Ohio State. I'm not saying anything 478 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: like that. I'm saying us being around those players and 479 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: kind of getting a vibe from that program, they don't 480 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: take it for granted, but they feel like they've got 481 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: a choke hold on that rivalry right now. They feel 482 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: like they got Ohio State's number right now, and so 483 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: they're looking and saying, hey, we got bigger fish to fry, 484 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: and look, They're free to feel that way. They have 485 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: every reason to feel that way. Now, what about Ohio State. 486 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 1: We had Ryan Day yesterday, sat down with him. That 487 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: is on the YouTube channel if you want to watch it. 488 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: Really good conversation with him. Talk to him before that 489 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: as well. He is brutally honest about the job he has, 490 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: about the fact that You can't go forty five and 491 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: six and just expect all your problems to disappear. If 492 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: some of those half dozen losses are well, two of 493 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: them to Michigan and then losing college football playoff games, 494 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: is it an unfair standard. Well, if he says no, 495 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: I would say, no, it's a little it's a little warped. 496 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: It's a little myopic. But that's okay. That's how I 497 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: feel about the sport. I'm a little warped on it. 498 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm a little myopic. The fact is Ohio State 499 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: has better resources and an advantage over ninety eight percent 500 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: of the sport. There should be disproportionately high expectations there. 501 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: The head coach there does not run from it. He 502 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: embraces it. And when I say he shrugs it off, 503 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 1: I don't mean he's nonchalant about it. I mean he 504 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: shrugs it off as if to say, that's my job. Man. 505 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: Those are the exact words he said to me before 506 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: we started recording yesterday. So again that interviews on the 507 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: YouTube channel. But the other part of that is I 508 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: assume Kyle McCord will be their starting quarterback. I think 509 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: what's interesting is watching the rest of that team sort 510 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: of rise to whatever level they're gonna rise to. Because 511 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: as much as people are talking about that quarterback position, 512 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: talking to Ohio State folks, they're excited about their defense. 513 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: They've been building towards this for a couple of years 514 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: and Jim Knowles has come in and now he's not 515 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 1: a rookie there, like, it's not his first go around, 516 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: so it's gonna have his thumb print on it. Whatever 517 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: their defense is, it'll have his thumb print on it. 518 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: Ultra excited to see whoever that quarterback is, ultra excited 519 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: to see that. They felt unlike any team I spoke 520 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 1: to except Alabama. Alabama and Ohio State, for obvious reasons, 521 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: have felt different being around the teams at the media 522 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: days than any other team in the country. And it's 523 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: because they have insanely high standards. It's because they lost 524 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: to their biggest rivals last year. I absolutely well Alabama 525 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to play against Georgia, but Georgia 526 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: has won two titles in a row. Ohio State has 527 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: played and lost two years in road to Michigan. They 528 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: feel they feel like they took about a five minute 529 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: break from military training to come to media days and 530 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: look at you in the eye and not smile and 531 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: then go right back to business and no break camp. 532 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 1: In a couple of weeks. We got to talk to 533 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: Wisconsin and Nebraska today, And I've spoken about this with 534 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: you guys a few times. I think it bears repeating, 535 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: Like if you're not a Big Ten fan, but you're 536 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 1: a college football fan and you just wish there were 537 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: more good games on. Part of your problem is the 538 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: second and third tier of the Big Ten has not 539 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: been as watchable as it should be for a conference 540 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: as good as the Big Ten is. You get past 541 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: Ohio State, you get past Michigan, you get past Penn State, 542 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: and it's a crapshoot how good a Purdue versus Wisconsin's 543 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: going to be any given year. And there's really no 544 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: excuse for that. I felt that way for a few years. 545 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: I think a lot of folks around the Big Ten 546 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: do now. And if I were to talk to you 547 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: this time last year and I said Nebraska's going to 548 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: come open, Wisconsin's going to come open, you would have 549 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: been probably really surprised at Wisconsin. But then if I 550 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: were to have told you Nebraska's going to get Matt 551 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: Ruhle and Wisconsin's going to get Luke Fickle. To me, 552 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: that's the biggest upset because folks thought Fick was gonna 553 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: either wait for Ohio State or like take an NFL job. 554 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: He goes to Wisconsin and I talked to him today 555 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: and he laid out the exact reasons why that video 556 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: is going to be on the YouTube channel later. They 557 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: really leveled up, and this is good news for college 558 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: football fans. It's good news for Big Ten fans because 559 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: you get more quality games. Like imagine if the SEC 560 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: were Bama, Georgia sometimes LSU, and then everyone else was trash. 561 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: Now some people sarcastically say it is. It's really not, though, 562 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: because like South Carolina OL, Miss Auburn most years, Texas 563 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: A and m UP until last year, those are really 564 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 1: good programs and if they don't win, it's not for 565 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: a lack of trying, Whereas some places in the Big 566 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: Ten it's kind of had that good enough is enough 567 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: sort of field. Wisconsin was one of those places, Nebraska 568 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: had been one of those places. It's not those places anymore, 569 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: and talking to their people on and off the record today, 570 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 1: they kind of echoed that cinema so It's nice to 571 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: know I was actually onto something there. Minnesota was here today. 572 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you. So when I I 573 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: told you guys earlier in the week, I thought some 574 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: big news was coming this week, I was talking about 575 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: Colorado being on the move, and I knew that there 576 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: was a report coming out about Minnesota. Those were the 577 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: two things, and Colorado news was exactly what it was. 578 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: This Minnesota deal was not what I thought it would 579 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: be the way that it was kind of being framed 580 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. I thought it was going to be 581 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: Northwestern part two, the Minnesota version, and it wasn't. And 582 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: I sat down with PJ. Fleck today and I gave 583 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 1: him a chance to address it any which way he 584 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: wanted to, and he answered it exactly how I would 585 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: answer it. And I'll tell you if you're unfamiliar. Front 586 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: Off of Sports had the story, and to paraphrase and 587 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: summarize the story, it was disgruntled former players who were 588 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: alleging a toxic culture in the Minnesota football program. I 589 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: sat like five feet from where I am right now 590 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: with Brady Quinn earlier today and he put it really well. 591 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: He said, football is an inside out sport. Sometimes everybody 592 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: wants to know the insides, but those who have only 593 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: been outside and never been inside are really taken aback 594 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: sometimes when they see what the inside is like. Translation, 595 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: if you've never been in a locker room, if you've 596 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: never been part of athletic competition, doesn't make you a 597 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: bad person or anything like that, but it does kind 598 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: of come as a shock to the census sometimes when 599 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: you find out how sports actually work. And that's when 600 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: nothing wrong is going on. By the way, if you 601 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: were to attend a college football practice, if you were 602 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: to go to a summer conditioning session, it's a shock 603 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: to the census. It really is. We get to see 604 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: some practices sometimes, and that's after they close it to 605 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: the media. It is a It is a blessing for 606 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: some of those guys to get to Saturday. It is 607 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: easier on them Saturdays than it is sometimes during the week. 608 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: Well here's the point. What was alleged against Minnesota made 609 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: me go, where's the rest of this? Because I read 610 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: it and I expected more and there there really wasn't 611 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: anything there. So I talked to PJ. Fleck about it today. 612 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: He said, hey, look, this is something that has been 613 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: peddled behind the scenes for a little while. Almost what 614 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: he was saying is we knew that allegation was there, 615 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: it's just that they finally found someone to run with it. 616 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: He said, Look, we've got seven different mechanisms in our 617 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: program that people could anonymously report issues to if they 618 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: had them. He said, we never heard anything from any 619 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: of the people who were sourced in this report. So 620 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: that's what you do. By the way, if you get 621 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: accused of something and you're telling me it's false, get 622 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: in front of folks as quickly as you can look 623 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: him in the eye, which PJ. Fleck did with me 624 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: and everyone else here today, and tell us it's false. 625 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: And if you do, and I believe you, I'll go 626 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: on one of the biggest college football shows in the 627 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: world like we are right now and agree with you. 628 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: I agree with PJ. Fleck. I thought they handled themselves 629 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: very well. I also thought it did them a big 630 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: pr favor that that story came out and then the 631 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: whole Colorado thing blew up. So my sense, and you 632 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: can tell me if I'm wrong, because I've kind of 633 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: been barricaded here in Indianapolis, my sense is that that 634 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: was in the headlines for about six hours and now 635 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: everyone's forgotten about it, which, in lieu of further details 636 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: coming out, is exactly how I'd advise you to treat you. 637 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: Aaron Lewis from Rutgers was my favorite player to talk 638 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: to here. Dane and he are the only people who 639 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: commented on the blueness of my eyes the entire week, 640 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: and I appreciated it from him because he did it 641 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: on a camera. So I asked him, what do you 642 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: want to do maybe after football, and he said, I 643 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: may love to get into media. I think he's got 644 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: a future in it if he wants to. Penn State. 645 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: I talked to James Franklin. We've had him on the 646 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: show twice now, including yesterday, in the past few months. 647 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: I don't have a lot to say about him that 648 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: I haven't already said. I think that is a team 649 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: that feels as ready to get to fall camp and 650 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: finally prove what everyone is saying about him as any 651 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: team I've been around. And so not a whole lot 652 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,239 Speaker 1: of talking left to do with Penn State. It's not 653 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: that I am not acknowledging them. I just don't have 654 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: a lot to say. I'll tell you one more guy, 655 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you about never met Kirk 656 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: Ferrance before, never been to an Iowa game at home. 657 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: I've been to Iowa Iowa State, but that was an 658 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: ames and so I don't have I don't have immense 659 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: familiarity with the Iowa program now, certainly as a longtime 660 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,959 Speaker 1: fan of this game, I've watched Kirk Ferrance my whole life, 661 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: like he's been the head coach at Iowa, pretty much 662 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: my whole coherent life watching college football, and so it 663 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: was an honor to get to meet him. At the 664 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: same time, I think there are valid criticisms of his program. 665 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: I've watched from afar, and you know, I've wondered what 666 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: is the balance of understanding where college football is going 667 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: versus honoring and respecting an institution and a legacy head 668 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: coach who's not going four and eight or anything like that. 669 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: It's just they don't have an offensive fastball, and it 670 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: cost them the opportunity to do more than what they 671 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: have done. And listening to him talk yesterday, number one, 672 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: it's one he's been around as long as he has. 673 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: Like some guys look through you, and some guys look 674 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: at you. Some guys are really grizzled in the way 675 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: they present themselves. Some guys you could never knock off 676 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: the balls of their feet. You would never get Kirk 677 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: parents on his heels. That mean he's right on everything, 678 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: but it's just there's a steadfastness, there's a belief in 679 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: what he's doing. It bleeds through so quickly when you're 680 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: talking to him face to face. He talked about the 681 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: specifics of how they have to upgrade offensively. He talked 682 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: about the not limitations, because that's not the word he used, 683 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: but there's a different kind of personnel they use there. 684 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: So you're not gonna see much five wide from Iowa, 685 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: but doing it the Iowa way, there's a way to 686 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: bleed more than twenty three twenty four points per game 687 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: out of that offense. So it's been a really fun 688 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: week here. Big ten Media Day is the first one 689 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: I ever attended, and probably not my last. I'm told that, 690 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: I'm told that this company who's Mike Flag I'm holding, 691 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: has signed a pretty significant deal with this conference, so 692 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: I don't doubt that we'll be here several years to come. 693 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: All right, I want to wrap the show up with 694 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: bold predictions. Bold Predictions A tradition unlike any other in 695 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: college football at least, rolls on for chapter twenty two tonight, 696 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: and the first one caught my eye. So I want 697 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: to lead with this one about the one of five 698 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: bold prediction number one, And for those of you unfamiliar, 699 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: these are just things you're predicting that you claim you'd 700 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: bet your money on. How about this one from Columbia 701 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 1: South Carolina. Only one of the preseason top five teams 702 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: will make the college football Playoff. Now, I looked to 703 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: my left, I looked to my right. I don't see 704 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: an AP pole yet. I have not dropped a JP 705 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: pole yet. So all we can do is go on 706 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: the Caesar Sportsbook top five right now in terms of odds, 707 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: and that is Georgia, Bama, Ohio State, Michigan, and LSU. 708 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's what the other poles will look like. 709 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 1: So the prediction is only one of those five make 710 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: the playoff. This is a nine on the boldness scale 711 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,240 Speaker 1: for me, there is a way that this could happen. 712 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: Kind of about this, if you told me nothing more 713 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: than Bama, you can pick any of the SEC teams. 714 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: So let's say Georgia goes to Atlanta and they face 715 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: a beaten up Bama or a beaten up LSU, either 716 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: of them already have at least one loss. But the 717 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 1: you know, the one lost team makes it to Atlanta 718 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 1: and Georgia beats them, Georgia may very well be your 719 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 1: only SEC team. You could paint that scenario with LSU 720 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: and Alabama too, So let's just for the sake of argument, 721 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: say george is the one SEC team. Well, I just 722 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: took out three of the top five, Okay, so I 723 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: got one, and now I got to figure out how 724 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: neither Ohio State nor Michigan's gonna make the playoff. And 725 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: you could say, well, Josh, just sounds like Penn State 726 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: won the conference. Yeah, okay, But even if that were 727 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: to happen and I've got multiple playoff spots left, are 728 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: we looking at the situation where Penn State won the 729 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: Big Ten and there's enough distance between them and the 730 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: rest of the field that none of the rest of 731 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 1: the Big Ten qualifies for the playoff. That's what's tough 732 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: for me. That's why I'm calling this a nine. Also, 733 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: it could very well be that like three of them 734 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: or more make the playoff, So that one was tough 735 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: to see. Not impossible, but tough to see for me. 736 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: Next up, I don't know if I've told you, but 737 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: I've talked to some coaches today. We sat down with 738 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: Mike Locksley as well, from Maryland. So this comes from Savannah, Georgia. 739 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: I love the name of that town. By the way, 740 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: Maryland top twenty by the end of the year. Wow, Well, 741 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: I should let you know. Mike Losley has been the 742 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,879 Speaker 1: head coach at Maryland multiple years, one of the most 743 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 1: fun guys in the sport to talk to, by the way, 744 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: and he has a story and we can't tell it 745 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: in ten minutes, which is how long we had to 746 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: sit down with him. Mike Locksley this year, for the 747 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 1: first time, was bold enough to come in here and 748 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: start talking about competing for the actual Big Ten East, 749 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: competing for the Big Ten championship. And he actually said, 750 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,479 Speaker 1: I've never said that before. You know, anyone who pays 751 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: attention to me year to year, I've never used that 752 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: kind of nomenclature. Five dollars in the verbage jar there, 753 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: I've never you is that kind of phrasing. I am 754 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: this year because I feel good enough about that. He's 755 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: another coach by the way who came here and talked 756 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 1: a lot about a player led team. Now I mentioned 757 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 1: that to you guys sometimes in passing, But all that 758 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: means is I got a veteran laden team most of 759 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 1: the time. That's what that means, And it means I 760 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: got a team who has taken accountability to the point 761 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: where the coaches don't really have to be on players 762 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 1: every second of every day. They care about the outcome. 763 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 1: They're invested, They got skin in the game to the 764 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: point where it's their team. You know, we're kind of 765 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 1: keeping it on the rails, but it's their team and 766 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: they will determine how far they go, which is a 767 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 1: beautiful thing when it works out. It's a nightmare when 768 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 1: it doesn't. Maryland top twenty by the end of the year, though, 769 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 1: that's an eight point seventy five on the Boldness scale 770 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 1: S and P plus. They're starting the season at forty first. 771 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: They've gone three and nine, two and three the COVID year, 772 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 1: seven and six, eight and five, so there's a noticeable 773 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 1: progression there post COVID. If I could get them to 774 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 1: nine and three this year, that's probably good enough for 775 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: a top twenty five finish. Here's the problem. They go 776 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: at Michigan State at Ohio State, Illinois will be a 777 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 1: dogfight at home. Even Penn State at Nebraska Michigan. They 778 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,399 Speaker 1: I don't know about spreads on some of those. They're 779 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: a point spread underdog in most of those games, though, 780 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: And so I need some upsets. I either need some 781 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: upsets or I need some losses. And like a monumental 782 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:26,919 Speaker 1: upset against Ohio State or Michigan. It's his best team, though, 783 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: I think it'll be Mike Loxley's best team. So this 784 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: is not out of the realm. And they said top twenty, 785 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: not top ten. So I'm gonna go eight point seventy 786 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: five on that boldness scale. What about this one? There's 787 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: some layers to this next one, and this one has 788 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: some G five flavor to it. Tulane goes undefeated but 789 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: does not make the college football playoff. Huh. Now, we 790 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: saw this couple of years ago. The cannot crowd turned 791 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: into the has not crowd when they told you that 792 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: Cincinnati G five team couldn't make the playoff. Then all 793 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 1: of a sudden, they made the playoff. We held strong 794 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 1: on our show, by the way, So TWU Lane goes undefeated, 795 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: this year and they don't make it. Well, I'll tell 796 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: you a couple of things here. Firstly, it's hard to 797 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,439 Speaker 1: go undefeated, so I'm going to make this a nine 798 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: point five on the boldness scale, although they have the 799 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: best odds of ANYG five team to do it. Secondly, 800 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: look at Ole Miss in week two, they come to Tulane. 801 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: That's it. There is no more Power five team, which 802 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 1: leads me to my next point. A lot of hypocrisy 803 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 1: in this sport. Couldn't be us, but a lot of 804 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: hypocrisy in this sport. Some of that hypocrisy sounds like this, 805 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,760 Speaker 1: you heard it earlier in the show. All the SEC 806 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 1: should play nine conference games? Why well, their schedule is 807 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: not strong enough. Some of those same people would look 808 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: at Tulane go undefeated and they would say, well, they 809 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: deserve a shot at the playoff. And I'd ask them why, 810 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: well they went undefeated? Okay, and well you are what 811 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: your Rickard says, you are, Like, how could you deny 812 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 1: an undefeated team a shot at the college football playoff? 813 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: I don't think there's strength of schedule warrants it. That's 814 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 1: my very cold, serial killerish heart beat not above eighty 815 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: response to that because we've had to do this before, 816 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: and I'd probably have the same conversation. I would tell 817 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: you I don't care that you're undefeated alone. I do 818 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 1: care about it, but I also care that I think 819 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: I would favor fifteen teams in the country to go 820 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: undefeated against your schedule some years, that's the way it 821 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 1: works out. We'll have to see how this works out 822 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: for TWU Lane. So there may very well be a 823 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: scenario where they go undefeated and I'm sitting here like 824 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: I was with Cincinnati two years ago, saying, no, I 825 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 1: think they deserve to be in the playoff, but it 826 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,720 Speaker 1: would be out of Tulane's hands because that's the card 827 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: you draw when you're a G five team. My answer 828 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: has been have a G five playoff. No one wants 829 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: to do it. And so in lieu of that, if 830 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna continue the charade that one hundred and thirty 831 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 1: some odd teams actually play the same caliber of this sport, 832 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna be a little bit more of a 833 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: stickler about strengthen to schedule and let's be consistent by 834 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: the way across the board and how we talk about that. 835 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: So I think it'd be tough for him to go undefeated, 836 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,399 Speaker 1: and then going undefeated not making the playoff is tough. 837 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna make it the nine point five lastly 838 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 1: and the boldest prediction of the night. And he's been 839 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 1: in the news for other reasons today, but from Dallas, Texas, 840 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 1: we got a prediction that said Dion Sanders will be 841 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: on the hot seat after year one. What how? And 842 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,919 Speaker 1: we're removing scandal from this. Okay, so if scandal breaks out, 843 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,720 Speaker 1: totally different thing. But if it's just for football, Deon 844 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 1: Sanders on the hot seat after year one, Dude, they 845 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 1: could go winless and only regress by one game from 846 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: last year. I think we've forgotten because of how much 847 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,360 Speaker 1: he's been in the news, how much hype he's gotten. 848 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: We've contributed to it. Maybe people are forgotten where this 849 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 1: program is. They just had to take over seventy kids 850 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 1: out of the portal, or they had a roster turnover 851 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: of that much. They were a one win team last year. 852 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 1: Hoompstever has the audacity to talk hot seat with Deon 853 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: Sanders after year one if it's just for football related reasons, 854 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,320 Speaker 1: probably does not need to be featured in bold predictions 855 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: very much. Moving forward, I'm making that a nine point 856 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,320 Speaker 1: seventy five. And if you remove scandal from the equation, 857 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: because anything could happen off the field. So if we're 858 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: saying he's on the hot seat for football reasons after 859 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 1: year one, that's that's close enough to make that a 860 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 1: ten on the boldness scale. Don't see that at all. 861 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: Been a busy day, been a good trip, though. We 862 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 1: are starting at an abnormal time and still have a 863 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 1: ton of people watching, and I'm sure many more of 864 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: you will watch the replay. So I was talking in 865 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 1: the live chat as we got started a couple of 866 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 1: minutes later today and I was talking to some of 867 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: you guys. I dropped some nuggets in there, drop some 868 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,399 Speaker 1: nuggets about what's about to happen next month. Always watch 869 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 1: the show live if you can. You won't miss much. 870 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: Don't worry. Announcements are coming. But in the meantime, let 871 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: me tell you what to look forward to. So we'll 872 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: be back live Sunday. I'll be in Nashville. Will be 873 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,320 Speaker 1: good to go. We have got a Luke Fickle conversation 874 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: coming up on the YouTube channel. We got Matt Ruhle. 875 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: He went really in depth about how it ended in Carolina. 876 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: He did not plan on being back in coaching. He 877 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: opened the book man, he was really he was really 878 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: good with us. That'll be on the YouTube channel, so 879 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 1: keep an eye on that. We got a ton of 880 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: content coming. Look now through the National Championship Game, we're 881 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 1: wide open and so we appreciate you taking the ride. 882 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 1: Make sure you subscribe. That's all I need you to do. 883 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 1: And if you want to follow on the socials at 884 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 1: late kick joshus where you can find me. And after 885 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 1: that you've had enough of me, because I've had enough 886 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: of myself. So for director Colin and producer Grishie back 887 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: in Nashville, Big Game, Dane is posted up on the 888 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 1: wall just behind the camera. For the sake of time, 889 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,280 Speaker 1: I won't have him appear on cam, but I appreciate 890 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 1: him and now the rest of our crew here because 891 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 1: it has been a trying time trying to get things 892 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 1: together due to things out of our control earlier this afternoon, 893 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 1: but we got it done. Appreciate you guys tuning in live. 894 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 1: We'll be back same time Sunday night, normal time Sunday 895 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 1: night in Nashville. Until then, take care and God bless