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Speaker 1: and your wife met gentlemen, Welcome to the Bear Honey
Speaker 1: Magazine Global Headquarters. Good morning, Brent Reeves. Good morning, sir.
Speaker 1: Here we are again. You're reporting in from Central Arkansas.
Speaker 1: Central Arkansas. It's a two hour and fifty eight minute
Speaker 1: drive if you follow them speed recommendation. That's a long walk,
Speaker 1: it is. Did you ride your mule up here? I
Speaker 1: did not know Flashy mete for me yet. Mr Ryan Grab,
Speaker 1: good morning, Good morning. You got me off the lake
Speaker 1: and got me to come up the mountain. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: Ryan's got a freezer full of croppy but uh so
Speaker 1: he's been crappie fishing, right. I introduced you last time
Speaker 1: on the podcast as a guy that was killing bears
Speaker 1: while my mama was still wiping my nose, and uh,
Speaker 1: I'm going to continue on with that. So Ryan Grab
Speaker 1: is uh a good friend of mine. For several years.
Speaker 1: Ryan's hunted with me all over Canada and and we've
Speaker 1: hunted together here in Arkansas. And uh Brent has end
Speaker 1: with me all over Canada as well. And what we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about today is spring bear hunting. What I
Speaker 1: want to do is I want to take somebody from
Speaker 1: zero to hero about spring bear hunting and about forty
Speaker 1: five minutes to an hour. I want to talk about
Speaker 1: all the relevant issues that revolve around spring bear hunting
Speaker 1: that have to do with timing, When do you go,
Speaker 1: where do you go? Because there are there are states.
Speaker 1: There are nine states that have spring bear seasons. They're
Speaker 1: all the Canadian provinces except for some of the northern
Speaker 1: provinces that you know, like none of it and uh
Speaker 1: uh Nova Scotia are the only Canadian provinces that don't
Speaker 1: have spring bear seasons. So I want to talk about that.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about Canadian bear hunting outfitters and
Speaker 1: how guys can go up and hunt, and like talk
Speaker 1: about costs because people are like how much does it cost? Um?
Speaker 1: I want to talk about a crossing the Canadian border
Speaker 1: because you know, there's all these limitations that guys think about.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that guy's name, do you remember the
Speaker 1: guy that Marvin or do you do you remember he
Speaker 1: asked us about I want to tell the story about
Speaker 1: what he asked us about. Do you not remember his
Speaker 1: name is right? No, it wasn't markin Pierre, wasn't Pierre.
Speaker 1: It was about the Canadian border officer. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: something No I remember exactly. Okay, So we're gonna we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about a crossing the Canadian border with firearms
Speaker 1: and Bosner's and what you need to do. Um, We're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about. What we're trying to do is answer
Speaker 1: the frequently asked questions, because I get questions all the
Speaker 1: time from guys that have never been up there, and
Speaker 1: they just have questions, Can you eat spring bear meat? Okay,
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of things that in times past
Speaker 1: bears have been managed in such a way where sometimes
Speaker 1: you didn't have to harvest the meat, and it made
Speaker 1: people think it was bad. But so we're gonna I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna tell you whether you can or not. You're
Speaker 1: gonna have to listen, but we're gonna talk about that.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about, uh frequently asked question, is our
Speaker 1: spring bear hides rubbed out after a certain point, by
Speaker 1: rubbed out meaning you know, it is to hide any good.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that we're gonna talk about how
Speaker 1: you get hides and meet back from Canada. We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about do it yourself options in the Western United
Speaker 1: States for spotting, stock hunting primarily, and bait hunting. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about outfit and stuff, but also about
Speaker 1: do it yourself stuff timing for that. Um, those are
Speaker 1: those are some of the big ones that we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about. So zero to hero, zero to spring bear
Speaker 1: hunting hero in fort or five minutes with Brent Reeves
Speaker 1: Ryan Grab at the Global Headquarters. Um, Brent, first time,
Speaker 1: first time you ever went with me to Canada was
Speaker 1: in Saskatchewan. That's right? Is that right? That was on
Speaker 1: the on the on the trip, the boat trip where
Speaker 1: I was singing the record the Van fits Gerald when
Speaker 1: we finally got off of it. Do you know the
Speaker 1: words of that song that you can sing now? Uh, Well,
Speaker 1: it's like a nine minute it's like the Canadian version
Speaker 1: of Freebird. It's like twelve minutes long. We've got time forever.
Speaker 1: You're able to lose listeners over that. But I do
Speaker 1: remember the line that I said when when we stepped out,
Speaker 1: when I stepped out of the boat finally nobody knows
Speaker 1: where the love of God goes. When the waves turned
Speaker 1: the minutes two hours. I remember saying that to you,
Speaker 1: and you looked at me and like, I know you've
Speaker 1: never heard that song. But he looked at me like,
Speaker 1: did that dude, just make that up? Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I was scared of that. But spring bear hunting, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was the That was the first time, and that
Speaker 1: was the time. It was summertime man far as hunting
Speaker 1: in Arkansas? Was it? It was? It was the last
Speaker 1: week of June. So what we're gonna start off with
Speaker 1: is when do you go? Okay, let's start off with
Speaker 1: when do you go? And then we'll talk about where
Speaker 1: we went the last week of June and on that
Speaker 1: particular hunt. A little bit of background. We're hunting with
Speaker 1: outfitting far northern Saskatchewan, and we rode fifty five miles
Speaker 1: on a boat and a giant Canadian Northern lake which
Speaker 1: is almost like an with a about a horse crappy
Speaker 1: boat and uh, we were coming out of the water
Speaker 1: about six ft a couple to No, no, not that much,
Speaker 1: but it felt like it. It felt like it. But
Speaker 1: all the more, all the more adventure we had because
Speaker 1: of how far we were back in hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: three miles south of the Arctic Circle. Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: plotted it and checked it when we got back home.
Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna say, a hundred sixty three
Speaker 1: miles by boat. It was that far off from that.
Speaker 1: We rode that much in the boat that week, and
Speaker 1: then every day we wrote, y'all rode as much as
Speaker 1: twenty miles one way in a day, did you not?
Speaker 1: You probably you may have gone. I think they went
Speaker 1: each day there and back just hunt. So you probably
Speaker 1: rode three hundred miles in a boat and yeah, there's
Speaker 1: no telling. Yeah, you know what, I would do that
Speaker 1: again at the heartbeat. Oh yes, yeah, just probably for
Speaker 1: the fishing more than anything. That was a world class
Speaker 1: We didn't know at the end, but yeah, it was
Speaker 1: one of the first times that we had had access
Speaker 1: to just fishing right out from camp, and I mean
Speaker 1: we were just catching fish like a big pike lake trout.
Speaker 1: There was h it was and we kind of thought
Speaker 1: everywhere else we go was gonna be like that, and
Speaker 1: it was not even in similar waters. I don't say
Speaker 1: there's fish everywhere, but not there were and they were
Speaker 1: hungry and it was every third. I mean, you could
Speaker 1: have averaged out. I promise you I would take the
Speaker 1: oath right now. It was every third or fourthcast you
Speaker 1: were catching colds. Do you remember how well you wouldn't remember, Brent,
Speaker 1: Do you remember how nervous I was when I lost
Speaker 1: Ryan Diamond Diamond spinner diamonds wouldn't know what it was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was using his rod without permission. And these these
Speaker 1: these big old spoons cost like nine dollars a piece.
Speaker 1: I don't know that was what that was. That was
Speaker 1: debait that everybody said, you got to have this or
Speaker 1: you cannot. Look You look at it and you think,
Speaker 1: I just novelty. You know, you don't catch nothing on that.
Speaker 1: And no, that was it was. You caught fish up
Speaker 1: until the point when I lost yours. Yeah, but we
Speaker 1: had we had more. I remember I was legitimately. I
Speaker 1: was like a little kid, like, hey dad, remember that
Speaker 1: Remember that bait that you let me. That's what I
Speaker 1: felt like, Oh man, okay, when to hunt. We're gonna
Speaker 1: get down to business. When to hunt. So if you
Speaker 1: didn't know anything about springbear hunting, you hunt in May
Speaker 1: and June. That is that is pretty much when you
Speaker 1: hunt some of the some places actually opened their bare
Speaker 1: seasons in April. Actually, a lot of the Canadian provinces
Speaker 1: open in April, and some of the western states opened
Speaker 1: in April, and even as much as April first, Okay,
Speaker 1: but the bulk of bear hunting is done in May
Speaker 1: and June because that April hunt is risky or snow
Speaker 1: when you're hunting in the northern latitudes, and pretty much
Speaker 1: you can only hunt spring bears up north. There's no
Speaker 1: southern state that has a spring season. Arkansas, Georgia, North Carolina, Virginia,
Speaker 1: West Virginia. I mean, none of those guys have spring seasons. Okay,
Speaker 1: So you're hunting up north, and so what you're biologically,
Speaker 1: what's happening is these bears have dinned for the last
Speaker 1: you know, hundred twenty days or even longer than that.
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of times bears are up north
Speaker 1: or going into the dens in October. And uh, you
Speaker 1: know what, when we hunted Manitoba, Canada, Southern Manitoba, Canada
Speaker 1: the first week of November, we have seen bears every
Speaker 1: year out of their dens first week in November. Ye,
Speaker 1: But but it's not common and they're not coming out
Speaker 1: very far from their dens. But let's so let's just
Speaker 1: say bears are going into their dens around the first November,
Speaker 1: so November, December, January, February, March, April. They've been in
Speaker 1: it then for six months. They come out of the den.
Speaker 1: Their hair is long, at its peak length because they
Speaker 1: have grown the longest there possible to be insulated. Their
Speaker 1: claws are sharp. Their their claws, its claws are just
Speaker 1: like fingernails. I don't know if it's keratin or whatever
Speaker 1: it is, but their their their claws have been growing
Speaker 1: and they have not been walking around without use. Claws
Speaker 1: are sharp. They come out of the den on favorable
Speaker 1: days in in most places of the black Bear range,
Speaker 1: bears will be coming out in April and might even
Speaker 1: be coming out in snow. Like you know, if you
Speaker 1: didn't know much about bear biology, and and I didn't
Speaker 1: years ago, you would be like, well, does it bear
Speaker 1: wait till it's just like super warm to come out,
Speaker 1: or does he come out when there's snow on the ground.
Speaker 1: They absolutely come out of their den, sometimes in the snow,
Speaker 1: and it's like a progressive state of awakeness. Like the
Speaker 1: first time they come out. They they might not go
Speaker 1: fifty yards from their den. Yeah, and then a week
Speaker 1: later they might range out further and it's almost like
Speaker 1: they're they're going out to try to find if there's food.
Speaker 1: And basically when the food win there is a legitimate
Speaker 1: food source, then they will start eet that food source
Speaker 1: release their fecal plug, which that's a biological process of
Speaker 1: bear doesn't a bear den to conserve energy, and you know,
Speaker 1: they don't urinate or or defecate in general. I've personally
Speaker 1: seen bear scout outside of a bear den in Arkansas
Speaker 1: in the middle of the winter. So, but the in general,
Speaker 1: bears do not urinate or defecate for that entire time
Speaker 1: in the den. They come out, they've got a they've
Speaker 1: got a plug that they have to release, and that
Speaker 1: only comes after they ingest more food. Brent's grinning over there.
Speaker 1: He's trying to think of a j trying not to
Speaker 1: say he's grinning like the fifth grade for my whole life.
Speaker 1: But let me ask you this, is it more time
Speaker 1: or temperature that's the trigger for that when they're waking
Speaker 1: up food source like they a bear does not then
Speaker 1: because it's cold, it's not like he gets cold and
Speaker 1: it's like, oh man, it's cold, I want to go
Speaker 1: it inn He goes to bed because the food source
Speaker 1: runs out, and so he wakes up when the food
Speaker 1: source comes back. Maybe their metabolism is so that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They've taken digested as much as they can
Speaker 1: go and they need to get up and right. So
Speaker 1: that's when they start rambling. Yep. And it probably has
Speaker 1: to do with you know, daylight period. I mean, all
Speaker 1: the animals are working off you know, the amount of
Speaker 1: daylight to understand what time of year it is. In
Speaker 1: biological processes they're going on and stuff. But it's primarily
Speaker 1: driven by food. And so if you have an early spring,
Speaker 1: and that's why we're talking about timming, if you have
Speaker 1: a if you have an early spring, win in northern
Speaker 1: Idaho on April one, it's sunny and getting in the
Speaker 1: fifties and snow's melting off the top of the mountains,
Speaker 1: which does happen Bears are gonna be rocking and rolling earlier.
Speaker 1: And so you might go to a Northern Idaho on
Speaker 1: a do it yourself hunt on April the tenth, and
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Idaho opens early and have a great
Speaker 1: hunt and see bears, and then the next year you
Speaker 1: go back out there and there's not a bear to
Speaker 1: be found in the places that you were hunting are
Speaker 1: covered in snow and the bears are still denned up.
Speaker 1: So that's the risk inside of April. And that's why
Speaker 1: most bear hunting takes place later in the spring, because
Speaker 1: it's it's a more for sure, guaranteed deal. Percentage is
Speaker 1: of going mid to late May would be prime time
Speaker 1: and after that's right pride. If if you were just
Speaker 1: to say what is prime time for spring bear hunt,
Speaker 1: I would say from May the tenth to June the tenth,
Speaker 1: that would be prime time. And here's why. Um well,
Speaker 1: let me not get too far ahead. Let me describe
Speaker 1: what's happening. Most Canadian outfitters start outfitting the first or
Speaker 1: second week of May, and what you find inside of
Speaker 1: that time period is that, let's say from May one
Speaker 1: to May, let's categorize that as early spring, okay, and
Speaker 1: the big boars are gonna be feeding. They're not They're
Speaker 1: gonna be keyed in on just getting resource into them.
Speaker 1: They're not worried about the rut. So you can if
Speaker 1: you have a board at a bait or if you
Speaker 1: have a board located on the hillside on a spot
Speaker 1: and stock do it yourself hunt. He's gonna be really predictable.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be close, and he's gonna be close, that's right.
Speaker 1: Who's gonna stay close to that food source, that's right.
Speaker 1: And so that is actually why I prefer early spring
Speaker 1: for a spotting stock hunt, because spot and stock hunt.
Speaker 1: If I go to Montana and I'm hunting, I might
Speaker 1: spot a bear from a mile and a half away
Speaker 1: on the side of a mountain. If you spot that
Speaker 1: bear on May the first, there's a pretty darn good
Speaker 1: chance that tomorrow he's going to be in that exact
Speaker 1: same spot, or at least on that hillside. If you
Speaker 1: spot if you're hunting in Montana on some of the
Speaker 1: seasons in Montana go through the middle of June, you
Speaker 1: spot that bear on June tenth in Montana could be rutting,
Speaker 1: the sales are in season. He could be forever away
Speaker 1: from there, that's right. So that's that's a general idea
Speaker 1: of what's happening. So it works the same way with
Speaker 1: a bait though you go in those first weeks of
Speaker 1: May on a bated outfitted hunt or do it yourself.
Speaker 1: Baited hunt in Idaho. Uh, you you're not gonna see
Speaker 1: as many bears, but if you find a big one,
Speaker 1: you can probably kill him. So second part of the
Speaker 1: spring would be, let's say, from May the tenth tell June.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call that prime time kind of mid spring.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna have to worry about weather as much.
Speaker 1: There's a less chance that you're just gonna be snowed in.
Speaker 1: You know, my buddy Brian Strickland hunted last year the
Speaker 1: first week of May in in Manitoba. He ended up
Speaker 1: killing a big for the kind year after, but he
Speaker 1: set through snow. In his video there's snow in the background.
Speaker 1: He didn't see as many animals as he would have later,
Speaker 1: but he ended up killing a big bear first week
Speaker 1: in May, Manitoba. The the So what happens on about
Speaker 1: the twentye of May, though, is the rut starts to
Speaker 1: kick in. Um. There's not a lot of data or
Speaker 1: general information about the bear rut that I have seen
Speaker 1: published or media talked about. You know, like the white
Speaker 1: tail rut is like the most understood breeding process of
Speaker 1: probably any game animal in the world. Now, is that
Speaker 1: date that you're talking about when the rut kicks in.
Speaker 1: Is that for every latitude or is it diminish as
Speaker 1: you go. Well, here's the way it works is that bears,
Speaker 1: boar bears and female bears whenever they get out of
Speaker 1: the den and they have about a month to feed
Speaker 1: and build their processes back up, then stuff starts to happen.
Speaker 1: Because of the bear rut is not like a white
Speaker 1: tail rut. So a white tail rut is based upon
Speaker 1: the actual conception date has everything to do with fawn
Speaker 1: arrival in the spring. So they need those fonds to
Speaker 1: be born a certain time. So they've gotta breed at
Speaker 1: a certain time gestation period of a doe, deers tunter
Speaker 1: days or something, So they gotta breed tunter days back
Speaker 1: from the prime time period of that time. In the
Speaker 1: southern United States, that window would be super wide because
Speaker 1: our winners aren't that long or hard, and so in
Speaker 1: the southern US you have a longer rut. But we
Speaker 1: up in the northern Latin Tunes, like in Manitoba, those
Speaker 1: fonds have to be born at a certain time. You
Speaker 1: got this really fine rut. The bear rut is not
Speaker 1: like that because of delayed implantation anytime there's a lull.
Speaker 1: On the podcast, I talked about bear reproductive processes. My
Speaker 1: favorite topic, No delayed implantation, head delayed implantation. It's fascinating
Speaker 1: because basically bears are a low dense the animal, so
Speaker 1: that means they're a herd animal like a deer that
Speaker 1: are just everywhere like so a salth bear has to
Speaker 1: have this elongated period of time when she can be
Speaker 1: bred so that she'll bump into a boar because there's
Speaker 1: such a low density. And it doesn't mean that there's
Speaker 1: not a lot of them, it just means that spatially
Speaker 1: there's there's gonna not be forty bears per square mile.
Speaker 1: It's just not gonna happen anywhere. It's just not natural.
Speaker 1: So they have this elongated period of time when they
Speaker 1: can be bred. So when love, when love happens brent
Speaker 1: uh and they meet perchance Romeo and Juliet in the
Speaker 1: mountains of Manitoba or the Ozarks, and something in the
Speaker 1: in conception happens. Okay um. The the egg is fertilized,
Speaker 1: but it does not attach to the uterine wall until
Speaker 1: sixty days before gestation in November. That's when gestation starts
Speaker 1: after the bear has gone through the fall. Her body
Speaker 1: is determined if she can rear young egg attaches to
Speaker 1: the uterine wall, gestation starts. Bear cubs are born sixty
Speaker 1: days later in the dent. So all that to say
Speaker 1: that there's not this like pinpoint conception date like a
Speaker 1: white tail because of delayed implantation. Could you make a
Speaker 1: diagram of that? Give me the chug boards. When a
Speaker 1: boy bear loves a girl bear, we're taking up, We're
Speaker 1: taking a turn. Uh No, but that makes so there's
Speaker 1: this bear can be bred any time of the year
Speaker 1: like she could. She could be bred in early May.
Speaker 1: But the research that I've done on a couple of
Speaker 1: different research projects showed that pete conception date was around
Speaker 1: mid June for at least a couple of these bear
Speaker 1: populations that they had really tested. So Pete pete conception date,
Speaker 1: breeding date was like mid June. So I compare the
Speaker 1: months of May in June to the months of October
Speaker 1: and November for white tips. So late October stuff is
Speaker 1: gonna be happening. Um, have you seen rut activity the
Speaker 1: last week of May? Or have you hunted? We have?
Speaker 1: We hunted much in last mostly just June. Okay, you've
Speaker 1: mainly hunted in June with well, I have seen um,
Speaker 1: for sure rutting going on in late May, I mean bears,
Speaker 1: boar bears with sous. I've also seen boar bears following
Speaker 1: sALS in early May. Uh. But so that last week
Speaker 1: of May. That's why that's such a hotspot is because
Speaker 1: the bears are still fairly predictable. Like if you find
Speaker 1: a boar in a baby, he's probably gonna be there
Speaker 1: for a while. But there also might be cruising boards
Speaker 1: that find you right you get into mid Gin and
Speaker 1: it's like hunting the white tail rut. That's what I
Speaker 1: was gonna say. If you know a hunter is on
Speaker 1: a bait somewhere and they're not getting pictures of what
Speaker 1: they're considering shooters, it's just like a white tail buff.
Speaker 1: When that ruts kicked in, any day, there could be
Speaker 1: a monster. How many times were we in Saskatchewan in
Speaker 1: June and getting pictures of bears that nobody had ever seen,
Speaker 1: brand new? Yeah? Every day it was like a new bear,
Speaker 1: a new bear. Yeah. And we were hunting the last
Speaker 1: week of June pretty much twenties of June, and so
Speaker 1: that was classic rut stuff. Brett and I witnessed a bear.
Speaker 1: I don't know they ever connected, but you called it
Speaker 1: frolic the frolic yeah, and and uh, well we saw
Speaker 1: him breed not that year, but another year another year,
Speaker 1: I mean straight the old three wheeler. Mm hmm. Didn't
Speaker 1: we three wouldn't we see a three legged bear breed?
Speaker 1: I'm glad you clarified that because three wheeler it was
Speaker 1: a three legged bear. Yeah, indeed, that was the actually
Speaker 1: the next year, yeah, after after the frolican bears, which
Speaker 1: was stam Ass hunt where the bears came in on
Speaker 1: top of was but that same year where the bear
Speaker 1: got so close to us, you know the road activity
Speaker 1: Ryan had that had that encounter with that aggressive sal Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you watched U a boar and a sal fight. She
Speaker 1: had a cub up tree. Yeah, so I shot the boar.
Speaker 1: He didn't make it thirty yards. She goes overwhere and
Speaker 1: pretty much tears his hind quarters off as he's dead
Speaker 1: malls and yeah, and she was drooling and I don't
Speaker 1: know if she wins me or sees me, but she
Speaker 1: finally makes her way towards me. And it's the first
Speaker 1: time I'd ever carried bear spray, first hunt ever ever,
Speaker 1: and it was just an afterthought. I thought, you know,
Speaker 1: I got this, why not bring it? I've had it
Speaker 1: sitting at home for years and didn't have it handy.
Speaker 1: It was buried in my backpack. So as she kept
Speaker 1: getting closer, Yeah, I'm in the ground blind. So after
Speaker 1: seeing her do what she did to the bear I'd killed,
Speaker 1: it's like not to pull this out. And I go
Speaker 1: to talking to her and try to get her run off,
Speaker 1: and she would not. And finally when she got within
Speaker 1: four yards probably I thought I want to let her
Speaker 1: up and see what happens, and it scared her off.
Speaker 1: It works, It worked. Yeah, that was a pretty touchy situation. Um, well,
Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty good rundown of wind to
Speaker 1: hunt in the pros and cons of early hunh late hunting.
Speaker 1: Uh do you all think we've covered it? Y'all have
Speaker 1: any other comments on wind to hunt or questions? Well,
Speaker 1: you're probably going to see more bears, you think, probably
Speaker 1: in that June period when after Yeah, the the mid
Speaker 1: to late June, you're gonna see more. Okay, now here's
Speaker 1: somebody for somebody asking. Here, here's the other thing that
Speaker 1: I have not personally seen this because my late June
Speaker 1: hunting has produced a lot of bear shidings. But they say,
Speaker 1: and this makes sense, as the as the spring progresses
Speaker 1: and more natural food comes available, bears will spread out
Speaker 1: and be harder to find, just like in white tail hunting.
Speaker 1: If food is everywhere, they're hard to find, they don't respond.
Speaker 1: Debate as well. That being said in late in Saskatchewan,
Speaker 1: way up north like we were, that doesn't seem to
Speaker 1: be an issue. Yeah, where's more conifers and not any egg?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no berries out, no kind of masked hard
Speaker 1: or soft. Yeah yeah. But I think in a lot
Speaker 1: of places late June would be tougher for bears responding
Speaker 1: because grass is growing up, insects are starting to pop out.
Speaker 1: You know, they're just in a bare prefers natural food
Speaker 1: overbait almost all the time. I think if I was
Speaker 1: going to go for the first time, anybody was one
Speaker 1: of the recommendation, I would say, you know, first of June,
Speaker 1: first week of June would be prime time. Yep, to
Speaker 1: get both, You'll get you both occurrences. That's right, exactly. Okay.
Speaker 1: Number two, Where to hunt? Where to hunt? Okay. In
Speaker 1: the United States, there are nine states at least that's
Speaker 1: that's what I have figured. Nine states that offer spring
Speaker 1: bear hunting here. They are Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Oregon, Washington, Utah, Arizona, Alaska,
Speaker 1: and certain parts of Maine that are in side of
Speaker 1: these tribal lands. So I had to put Maine in
Speaker 1: there because you can spring bear hunt in Maine on tribals.
Speaker 1: Is that the only Eastern state that has spring hunt.
Speaker 1: Maine used to have a spring bear hunt like statewide
Speaker 1: and they shut it down. Uh was that from aunt?
Speaker 1: Absolutely anti hunting, nothing, no biological but bear. Maine has
Speaker 1: the largest bear population of any state in the for
Speaker 1: sure in the eastern US. California and some of those
Speaker 1: bigger states might potentially have more, but Maine has an
Speaker 1: estimated bear population of thirty thousand bears. I mean, bears
Speaker 1: are like just massively increasing. They usually have they usually
Speaker 1: kill about three thousand bears a year. Maine. Absolutely anti
Speaker 1: hunting sentiment that shut down the spring bear hunt. But
Speaker 1: there's some big Native American tribal lands in Maine. One
Speaker 1: of these pennob Scott, and we have multiple outfitters in
Speaker 1: Barony magazine that guy on penob Scott. Um. So let's
Speaker 1: let's just briefly go through these. Idaho is like the
Speaker 1: epicenter of bear hunting in the Western US. Idaho has
Speaker 1: the most liberal seasons, has lots of bears, lots of
Speaker 1: public land, you can use hounds, you can use bait,
Speaker 1: or you can spot and stock. Idaho is like, uh,
Speaker 1: in the movie Lord of the Rings, like, what was
Speaker 1: the elvish Rivendale. I've never watched that. You read next
Speaker 1: wearing a pair of overalls that looked like he bought
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty two and he's squirrel hunted in him
Speaker 1: since then, and they've never actually pretty sharp overall. That's
Speaker 1: a question about true grit. But Lord of the just
Speaker 1: watched that the other day. Uh yeah, Rooster, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: So I'm like the nerd. I'm like the nerdy. Now,
Speaker 1: I've never watched witchcraft. Um. In Lord of the Rings,
Speaker 1: i think it's called Rivendale. That is the where the
Speaker 1: elves live, and it's like this like hub of all
Speaker 1: things good. It's like it's like, you know, that is
Speaker 1: I I agree. I've been on the only spring bear
Speaker 1: hunt that I've been on that I didn't go with
Speaker 1: with you wasn't Ida on it and can you can
Speaker 1: bait on public ground there. That's right. You can go
Speaker 1: up there to do it yourself. Bait hunt. You can
Speaker 1: go up there by hound permit. You there's a couple
Speaker 1: of things you have to do, but buy hound permit.
Speaker 1: If you do itself, do it yourself. Bait per bait
Speaker 1: hunt you have to buy bait permit and then it's
Speaker 1: not very expensive. Hows are cheap. It's beautiful. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1: The Idaho bear season, um, I want to say it
Speaker 1: starts on April one. Check the REGs. It's either April
Speaker 1: one or April fift Montana starts April fifteen, So let's
Speaker 1: go from Idaho. Montana is a great spring bear hunting destination.
Speaker 1: But you can't run hounds, you can't bait. It's all
Speaker 1: spot and stock hunting. You go up there and buy
Speaker 1: a tag for three or fifty bucks. The western side
Speaker 1: of the state is where the bears are gonna be
Speaker 1: Idaho pretty much. The eastern side of Idaho is like
Speaker 1: big plains, you know, like Buffalo Country. The western side
Speaker 1: of the western one third of Idaho was in the
Speaker 1: Rocky Mountains basically, um the highest bear densities in Montana
Speaker 1: are going to be in northwest Montana. Uh. Now, is
Speaker 1: there only certain units in Montana or is that statewide? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Pretty much the western third of the state's gonna have
Speaker 1: a bear season, from like Bozeman or the Missoula up
Speaker 1: to Libby and uh Callaspell. I can't remember all that,
Speaker 1: but like you can, you could essentially say that western
Speaker 1: third of Montana is gonna for sure percent every place
Speaker 1: is gonna have a spring bear season. There's lots of
Speaker 1: wilderness areas, there's big blocks of National forest. Um Man,
Speaker 1: if you could just get in any of that country
Speaker 1: on the western side and learn it, you're gonna find bears.
Speaker 1: It's not easy, uh, but it's doable. Last year we
Speaker 1: took our mules to my I've hunted in the spring
Speaker 1: in Montana three years and had at a rough time
Speaker 1: two years and and didn't kill bear. The third year
Speaker 1: we kind of got it figured out and we we
Speaker 1: killed a bear and and probably I mean, I feel
Speaker 1: like I kind of know what's going on. But so
Speaker 1: that's Montana. Montana opens up April, goes to June one,
Speaker 1: and a lot of units into June fift in some units,
Speaker 1: so you can hunt their for about two months. Um,
Speaker 1: tags about three and fifty bucks. Wyoming, northwest Wyoming is
Speaker 1: gonna have a bear season. Uh, it's less of the
Speaker 1: state is open to bear hunting. Um, it's probably not
Speaker 1: as good as Idaho and Montana in terms of bear densities,
Speaker 1: even though there's a ton of bears and Wyoming. You
Speaker 1: just don't when you hear guys talking about going out
Speaker 1: west there there, if they're traveling, they're usually hunting Idahoa,
Speaker 1: Idaho or Montana. Is Wyoming spotting stock or is it
Speaker 1: a bait? You can you can hunt over bait and
Speaker 1: Wyoming in the spring. Now, is there are grizzlies? And
Speaker 1: but I didn't know. Yeah, a lot of that country,
Speaker 1: Yes you do. And and especially in the greater Yellowstone
Speaker 1: ecosystem northwest of Montana. I mean, excuse me, northwest Wyoming. Um,
Speaker 1: for sure, there's gonna be grizz in a lot of
Speaker 1: that country. So it's for sure. So have you got
Speaker 1: to think about and southwest Montana you gotta worry about
Speaker 1: grizz too. Um. Yeah, I never saw griz where I
Speaker 1: was at in Montana. Gris we were a little bit
Speaker 1: north of where they were Um, we were kind of
Speaker 1: hunting like mm hm central western Montana and we didn't
Speaker 1: see Griz, but all all of it could have been
Speaker 1: Grizz country. I mean we were prepared for Griz. We had, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we did, and I knew we probably wouldn't see him.
Speaker 1: I mean everybody, everybody that our contacts up there were
Speaker 1: just like, you're probably not gonna see grizz of bear.
Speaker 1: And that's good. When you're black bear hunt you don't
Speaker 1: have to worry about that. But but uh, okay, uh
Speaker 1: so Wyoming I have less I have less experience with Wyoming,
Speaker 1: but good hunting. You can't non residents can't hunt wildern's
Speaker 1: areas and Wyoming you gotta have a guide to go
Speaker 1: into wilderness areas. Um we uh anyway, Uh, Oregon and
Speaker 1: Washington have spring bear seasons. They're a little bit tighter.
Speaker 1: There's different places you have to apply for. Uh, it's
Speaker 1: different kind of hunting. It's Oregon and Washington are gonna
Speaker 1: have a lot more thickly forested regions. Um. But great hunting,
Speaker 1: great spring hunting. Um Utah has a very limited hunt
Speaker 1: in the spring. I mean that like fifty tags or something.
Speaker 1: But you can hunt over bait. Bryan Strickland kill the
Speaker 1: bear in Utah a couple of years ago, drew a tag.
Speaker 1: It's a draw state, and they don't. I want to say,
Speaker 1: it's a very limited hunt. Uh. Arizona, boy, don't get
Speaker 1: me talking about Arizona. They have they have a spring
Speaker 1: bear hunt, and uh, that's right for sure. And it's yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think New Mexico has a spring hunt. I
Speaker 1: don't think so. Um. I'm not gonna too much about
Speaker 1: Arizona other than that they have a spring hunt and
Speaker 1: a lot of it's I'm pretty sure a lot of
Speaker 1: it's draw or you can buy some leftover tags. Um.
Speaker 1: Alaska is el primo black bear capital of the you know,
Speaker 1: it's not the lower forty eight, but Alaska. And uh
Speaker 1: and then like I said, in Maine, on on tribal lands,
Speaker 1: so okay, uh, let's talk about let's talk about crossing
Speaker 1: the border in Canada. These are things that people like
Speaker 1: are limiting factors. Like sometimes people are intimidated, like they've
Speaker 1: never been up there and they're like, how do we
Speaker 1: cross the border. I'm still thinking about that guy's name.
Speaker 1: I don't remember. It was Marvin or Melvin Orice. I
Speaker 1: knew it. I knew it, But that guy on the
Speaker 1: beatle Juice named Maurice, I saw that one. Uh but Maurice,
Speaker 1: he was he hadn't shaved in a couple of days.
Speaker 1: He had on the uniform and he was setting in
Speaker 1: the station. But um, being a policeman for the last
Speaker 1: since n when you wear a uniform, yata, you ought
Speaker 1: to look I mean, you don't have to look out standing,
Speaker 1: but you should look decent more recently like he'd been
Speaker 1: on the job for a while, anybody. The thing that
Speaker 1: tickled me was that we went through there in Clay's
Speaker 1: truck and you could not cram another case, and plus
Speaker 1: we had a dog. You couldn't have fit another water
Speaker 1: bottle in the cab of the truck, true for real,
Speaker 1: in the cabin in the back. We had cases and
Speaker 1: boxes and camera equipment and a dog box back there.
Speaker 1: And Maurice said, what's your intentions in Canada? And we
Speaker 1: told me were on a bear hunt. And he said
Speaker 1: do you have any firearms? Clay said nope, we're bow hunters.
Speaker 1: And then he said do you have any fireworks? No? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: yes he did. He didn't say it like that though,
Speaker 1: I remember exactly what he said. He said, Okay, So
Speaker 1: Brent has been law enforcement, and Brent Tutor has tutored
Speaker 1: me over the years on how to present myself to
Speaker 1: law enforcement. Should I be stopped number one? Or should
Speaker 1: I be crossing the border. And he says, they want
Speaker 1: quick and precise answers. They don't want to see hesitation.
Speaker 1: They're trying to see if there's inconsistency in your answers
Speaker 1: and delays or lags or some kind of gesture that
Speaker 1: makes them think that you're nervous when you ask him
Speaker 1: a certain type of question. Yeah, basically tell the truth.
Speaker 1: But so anyway, so Brent had Brent had instructed me
Speaker 1: to be very quick and assertive with my answers and
Speaker 1: to give him nothing more than they asked for, because
Speaker 1: you know, being from the South, you know, it's just
Speaker 1: like you're kind of like they're like, so what do
Speaker 1: you why are you here? Well, you know, my buddy,
Speaker 1: he had me up here a few years ago to
Speaker 1: bear hunt and we had a nice time. We killed
Speaker 1: some bears. And you know, if you ask somebody what
Speaker 1: time and he is, don't tell him how the watchers
Speaker 1: might just tell him what time it wasn't. That's right. Okay,
Speaker 1: So this is what he said. As he said, he said,
Speaker 1: do you have firearms? No, what do you have for fireworks?
Speaker 1: That's what he said. What he said, what do you
Speaker 1: have for fireworks? And I and I looked at it
Speaker 1: and I said, I said firearms. And then he said
Speaker 1: what do you have for fireworks? He got frustrated with
Speaker 1: it because I repeat, like and he he asked it
Speaker 1: so quick as if he were going to trick me
Speaker 1: into disclosing that we had a truck full of bottle
Speaker 1: rockets or something. I couldn't imagine. That must be a
Speaker 1: thing or something. It's it llegally that fireworks in Canada.
Speaker 1: And why he thought that me and Brent Reids had fireworks,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a thing. They've caught people smuggling
Speaker 1: some fireworks through there or something as well. What I
Speaker 1: later I did a little research. The deal was the wildfires.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, okay, that's that's the deal on on
Speaker 1: on fireworks in Canada. As you know, they have enough
Speaker 1: trouble with lightning strikes. You know, it's a jillion acres
Speaker 1: up there that you can't get to by roads. So
Speaker 1: it was it's fire. Danger was doing his job. Holy cow,
Speaker 1: we could take over Canada with them. So you got
Speaker 1: rid of the smoke balls there. Do you remember that
Speaker 1: we had I had like the day before we left
Speaker 1: for Canada. Well, we're back up in May and June.
Speaker 1: We are really June in Arkansas. I will not pass
Speaker 1: a watermelon stand without stopping him by a watermelon, Like
Speaker 1: I just I just can't. Anyway, I had bought this
Speaker 1: big watermelon the day before and as we were leaving
Speaker 1: for Canada, I was like, I'm bringing the watermelon. I
Speaker 1: shoved this watermelon in the truck. And you're not supposed
Speaker 1: to bring fruits and you have to declare like fruits
Speaker 1: and vegetables like if you cross the border. Well, we
Speaker 1: were trying to keep things simple. We were and uh,
Speaker 1: out of sight, out of mind, and so anyway, I
Speaker 1: mean the watermelon was like laying like in the open
Speaker 1: in the back seat in anyway, you know, I didn't disclose.
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't claim the watermelon. And anyway, when
Speaker 1: we got through there we were it was like it
Speaker 1: was like smoking in the band that we were like
Speaker 1: who got a watermelon? But we told him we had
Speaker 1: a dog in the back we could and he never
Speaker 1: even looked. He said, you got the paper work, handing
Speaker 1: the paperwork, you know, the verification, he had all the shots.
Speaker 1: He never looked back there. We could have had a
Speaker 1: dog pin full of babies back there. That It was
Speaker 1: just no. We were legit with the dog and the fireworks,
Speaker 1: and we didn't have any firearms. But yeah, we didn't
Speaker 1: have any tobacco. You were bootleg and watermelon ye yep.
Speaker 1: Fireworks man, yep. So okay, crossing the border. You The
Speaker 1: only thing that you have to have if you're crossing
Speaker 1: the border is a simple non residents Firearms declaration form
Speaker 1: that used to intimidate me before I had done it.
Speaker 1: You go online and you type in in the Google
Speaker 1: non Resident Firearms Declaration for Canada and to pull up
Speaker 1: what's called RCMP nine. It's a one page form asked
Speaker 1: for your just all your information, the make of the
Speaker 1: gun on, the serial number, the caliber, how many bullets
Speaker 1: you're bringing, and that's all it is. And you it's
Speaker 1: best to print that off before you go and you
Speaker 1: just hand it to him that in your passport. And
Speaker 1: you can't take pistols, that's right. No handguns cost twenty
Speaker 1: five dollars for that firefps declaration for him, you do
Speaker 1: have to pull over and take an inside, and they
Speaker 1: have the right to come out and look at your gun.
Speaker 1: They've never done it one time. For me, I don't
Speaker 1: know how many times I've crossed the Canadian border with
Speaker 1: firearms and they have never one time looked at my gun.
Speaker 1: Though they have that right, and uh so it's no
Speaker 1: big deal getting the farms across. You do have to
Speaker 1: have a valid passport. Um, you can't be you know,
Speaker 1: if you've got like felonies on your record or something,
Speaker 1: you probably better do some checking on whether you across
Speaker 1: the border. Um. I got a question because every time
Speaker 1: I've been to Saskatchewan, I've flown head and rode with y'all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I got with you at the airport. But
Speaker 1: when we went to Ontario, we had to have a
Speaker 1: if you remember, which has been a few years ago,
Speaker 1: a valid hunting license or a hunting license from the
Speaker 1: year before. In the States. They wasn't gonna let us
Speaker 1: through if we didn't have a hunting license for the States. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm glad you brought that up because I
Speaker 1: almost forgot about that. You're right, we and and in
Speaker 1: that particular case with that outfitter, we had to buy
Speaker 1: our license before we got there, which is not common.
Speaker 1: Usually the outfitter sells you the license once you're in camp.
Speaker 1: That was another thing I was gonna cover. Talk to
Speaker 1: your outfitter and say, do I need to buy a
Speaker 1: license before I get there or do I buy it
Speaker 1: from you? Every place except Ontario I had the outfitters
Speaker 1: sold me the license. But yeah, we showed up in
Speaker 1: Ontario said hey, we need to buy nonresident bear tag
Speaker 1: and they said, okay, show me go ahead, and do
Speaker 1: you have a license from last year? And I mean,
Speaker 1: just by chance, both of us had our Arkansas hunting license,
Speaker 1: but I mean I cleaned out my wallet went up
Speaker 1: the same thing and just almost their way. So what
Speaker 1: would have happened? This lady made us believe that we
Speaker 1: couldn't have bought a tag. Wow, And I don't know
Speaker 1: if that, you know, it's been so long. I forgot
Speaker 1: to research that to see if that was legit. But
Speaker 1: since then I have carried a hunting license and my
Speaker 1: hunter's AD card, even though they don't ask for it,
Speaker 1: like when we buy a license in Saskatchewan or Manitoba.
Speaker 1: They don't ask for a hunter's a card. Uh So anyway,
Speaker 1: just bring your hunter's AD card from whatever state you're in.
Speaker 1: And if you're with an outfit or communication, that's right,
Speaker 1: that's right. Ask questions. Okay, let's talk now about how
Speaker 1: to get hides and meet back from Canada. Now, when
Speaker 1: you flew you did all the same things. You had
Speaker 1: to declare. You know, you've never brought a gun though,
Speaker 1: you've always bow hunted archery, but you had to go
Speaker 1: through Canadian customs, so you you essentially had the same
Speaker 1: experience we had. We just had it in the car
Speaker 1: and while we were smuggling dogs and watermelons. Well coming
Speaker 1: back your United States customs. So but yeah, each one
Speaker 1: is a little different. Yeah, you know, uh, I think
Speaker 1: when we'd come back to where was it Houston that
Speaker 1: time when we flew back, that was a pain. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was the issue. We got held over and we
Speaker 1: had no no, no, maybe you're was it out. We
Speaker 1: went from Saskatoon to Calgary. Calgary had the United States
Speaker 1: customs because we was flying from there to Houston. That
Speaker 1: was the one I think was a pain. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: got what we got held We got held over that, James,
Speaker 1: I don't remember. We got held over the time and
Speaker 1: we had to find some place to keep Yeah. Oh
Speaker 1: that's right. We had our hides and freezers. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: pretending to hide, we always stopped by Walmart, got toped,
Speaker 1: you know, Uh, hides were frozen. So that's you want
Speaker 1: to talk to your outfitter and say, is there going
Speaker 1: to be a freezer in camp? Yea in them are
Speaker 1: gonna say yes. The only time I've not had a
Speaker 1: freezer in camp was when I was doing like a
Speaker 1: back country hunt in British Columbia, Canada. In the outfitter,
Speaker 1: he didn't freeze hides. He fleshed and as salted them.
Speaker 1: I mean, just straight up fresh. We gotta we gotta dog. No,
Speaker 1: that's a little uh, that's a little scooter. I got
Speaker 1: a four month though pup that just came flying. Was like,
Speaker 1: um here he comes back. He must be running a
Speaker 1: cotton tail. Um. Yeah. So it's ideal if you flesh
Speaker 1: it and salted, because it that need refrigeration. You just
Speaker 1: roll it up, you know, usually put in a trash bagging.
Speaker 1: That's not ideal. It could moisture could get into it.
Speaker 1: But most times what we've done is just skin the
Speaker 1: bear left, the paws left the skull in it froze
Speaker 1: the hide solid. So if you kill the bear on
Speaker 1: the third day of a five day hunt, you know
Speaker 1: he's got two days in the freezer. Um, and you
Speaker 1: can bring that hide home frozen in a tote or
Speaker 1: in a nice chest and it will stay frozen for
Speaker 1: probably three days. So that was something I didn't know.
Speaker 1: We packed dirty clothes around it just for extra or
Speaker 1: whatever you can find for insulation inside of this tote
Speaker 1: duct tape. The tote a good sized bear, skull, hide, fat,
Speaker 1: everything on it is gonna weigh about fifty pounds, so
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay fifty pound excess baggage. Fore you're gonna
Speaker 1: send it home marker and write all your information down
Speaker 1: on that total YEP YEP, name, phone number, address, and
Speaker 1: essentially you'll have three days before that thing is gonna
Speaker 1: if it's frozen solid. So you're good because I mean
Speaker 1: usually you get an airport, you're gonna be sleeping in
Speaker 1: your bed within twelve hours, eighteen hours at most, Uh,
Speaker 1: So you're totally fine. UM. Meat would be the exact
Speaker 1: same way if you wanted, however much meat you wanted
Speaker 1: to bring home, which a lot of Canadian outfitters will
Speaker 1: take the meat and handle it for you. Okay, Um,
Speaker 1: some places you aren't required to salvage meat, but you
Speaker 1: could take as much of it home anywhere you wanted,
Speaker 1: and you would just freeze it the same way, bring
Speaker 1: it home, deal with it. So and it's just gonna
Speaker 1: cost you. You know, if you Killabaria, it's gonna cost
Speaker 1: you a little bit. If you're shipping like that, if
Speaker 1: you're driving, you bring ice chest. That's what we've done.
Speaker 1: Just brought big ice chest in the back of the truck,
Speaker 1: frozen solid, put him in. Okay, here's the other scenario.
Speaker 1: You killed barrel on the last day and you're leaving
Speaker 1: the next morning. You don't have time to freeze it.
Speaker 1: Most Canadian outfitters have a way to deal with hides,
Speaker 1: so you could just leave it with the outfitter and
Speaker 1: the outfitter will take it to a tax dermist that
Speaker 1: he knows he'll take care of it, and you can
Speaker 1: and he'll connect you with that tax dermist and you
Speaker 1: can have the bear fleshed and salted and shipped back,
Speaker 1: or you can have that text dermist tan the hide.
Speaker 1: Do whatever you want, but when you do that, you
Speaker 1: have to fill out a side he's permit and it's
Speaker 1: more expensive. Okay, a yeah, it's if you bring the
Speaker 1: hide back yourself, your tag acts as your side he's
Speaker 1: permit in almost all the provinces. To explain to the
Speaker 1: rookie now that that side's permit is to go along
Speaker 1: with getting stuff back across the border. It's fishing wildlife service, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it has to do with it's an acronym for something
Speaker 1: side ease um. But yeah, so it's it's just not
Speaker 1: a big deal. But if you so, you can leave
Speaker 1: it with somebody, but you're probably gonna have to pay
Speaker 1: a little bit more to get back because then you
Speaker 1: have to have a I don't know, it just costs
Speaker 1: more so the other steps that you have to go through.
Speaker 1: But it's totally doable. So don't let that be a
Speaker 1: limiting factor of going on spring bear hunt. Okay, question
Speaker 1: number seven, Can you eat spring bear meat? Brent reeves
Speaker 1: you why not? It's bear meat? Yeah, yeah, it tastes
Speaker 1: the same all year long. Yeah. The only thing I've
Speaker 1: heard actually people say that sometimes the spring meat can
Speaker 1: taste better because it's not is greasy. Greasy is the
Speaker 1: wrong word. Clay here slapping the face. I don't think
Speaker 1: bear meats greazy. It's just it's leaner in the spring
Speaker 1: because they've gone through this dinning period, their bodies used
Speaker 1: up with all the fat. But I have not found
Speaker 1: that really affect the meat, like there'll be less fat
Speaker 1: on their button. You know, the bear store a lot
Speaker 1: of fat outside of their body. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: like outside, not outside their body, trailers of fat. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, but this this thing about what you just
Speaker 1: said about them being a leaner, how fat were those bears?
Speaker 1: The two bears, remember the two the bear that came
Speaker 1: in on top of us, the bear that you referenced
Speaker 1: while to go to the big board, that the that
Speaker 1: stal jumped him. When we skin those bears next to
Speaker 1: that lake, how do you remember how fat those bears were,
Speaker 1: How thick the fat was on I mean, that was
Speaker 1: it's just spring bears not supposed to have much fatter.
Speaker 1: He had. They had playing fat. They were rolling fat.
Speaker 1: I mean they were as fat as almost as fat
Speaker 1: as something those I don't know, I don't know. It
Speaker 1: must have been because they can come out of the
Speaker 1: the den super lean when you're just when you're skinning one,
Speaker 1: there's skin touching meat, you know, and when it's when
Speaker 1: it's good, it's skin touching a big layer of fat,
Speaker 1: and then you get to the meat. But I mean
Speaker 1: there was, I mean there was. I mean you could
Speaker 1: tell the frames those bears that y'all killed up there,
Speaker 1: the frames, they would have carried another seventy pounds probably
Speaker 1: of weight on them absolutely in the fall. So but still, yeah,
Speaker 1: thatn't necessarily they're not gonna come out looking like, you know,
Speaker 1: a hostage man. We've been eating more and more bear meat.
Speaker 1: I mean we've always eaten bear meat, but since the
Speaker 1: kids have started killing bears every fall, multiple bears, it
Speaker 1: just seems like we're eating more and more bear beat man.
Speaker 1: Ground bear meat has become the staple for tacos, chili,
Speaker 1: any kind of ground meat stuff. I mean, Misty when
Speaker 1: I cook deer chili, now, Misty is like, oh it's
Speaker 1: dear chili. Serious. And if you've heard other stuff on
Speaker 1: my podcast, my wife is not a big hunter, very
Speaker 1: supportive and stuff, but I mean she's not. I have
Speaker 1: a reason to want to eat bear meat and like it.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I got a little bit best
Speaker 1: in this, So I'm like, man, it's the best step.
Speaker 1: Misty's like totally unbiased. She ain't gonna eat if she
Speaker 1: didn't like it. She loves bear meat for especially for chili,
Speaker 1: for tacos, for you know, anything that is just using
Speaker 1: ground meat. You know when when when I kill one
Speaker 1: and it's it's gone. It doesn't last. Now I can
Speaker 1: go from we eat a lot of dear meat, but
Speaker 1: I can go from season to season and like, oh man,
Speaker 1: there's some I got some dear meat left in here.
Speaker 1: The bear meat is gone. Yeah, because I got My
Speaker 1: seven year old daughter would rather eat a bear steak
Speaker 1: than she had a beef steak. But a lot we
Speaker 1: do a lot with the hamburger and chili and burgers
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And my wife is very she's
Speaker 1: you know, she isn't She is a city mouse if
Speaker 1: there ever was one, and she likes it. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's good stuff. Man, um question number twelve, Uh,
Speaker 1: do spring bear hides get rubbed out? I'm sure certain bears.
Speaker 1: Each one's a little different personally. I've never seen one.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many bears we've seen up there,
Speaker 1: but a lot they're there you know, I remember talking
Speaker 1: about it when on the way up there, we're like,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to, you know, watch for rubbed down bear.
Speaker 1: Just rubbed out the bear is over real good. It
Speaker 1: rubbed out bear means that so bears have these long
Speaker 1: guard hairs which are like up to three four inches long,
Speaker 1: probably not four, but up to three. And then they
Speaker 1: have this under fur which is like almost like the down,
Speaker 1: really fine finer fur, insulating fur. And uh, what they'll
Speaker 1: do in the spring, they do molt. They shed their
Speaker 1: their fur. From the time they come out of the
Speaker 1: den to the time they go back in, they grow
Speaker 1: basically a new coat. They shed those guard hairs, and
Speaker 1: so they'll get on trees and rub their butts and rug.
Speaker 1: We've seen and filmed a ton of them doing that.
Speaker 1: But you know they'd get off the tree and walk
Speaker 1: away and they wouldn't have a spot on them like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know we've seen, uh that little blond female that
Speaker 1: was that that little board was chasing chasing around that
Speaker 1: day and she was molten or whatever, but she wouldn't
Speaker 1: or ride wouldn't the inn or bear in any spot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So what you said rhyme before we started and it's
Speaker 1: what I say too, is it just seems to be
Speaker 1: a non issue. Yeah, I mean, you know, certain bears,
Speaker 1: I'm sure, But it also depends if you're looking, say,
Speaker 1: if you've got a trophy twenty one inch bear come
Speaker 1: in and rubbed a little bit, I'm shooting that, Barry,
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. You know, unless you're oneting the guy that's
Speaker 1: wanting something to a rugged to put on the wall,
Speaker 1: you know, check it out. But and more unlikely you're
Speaker 1: gonna notice it right off the bat. But personally, I've
Speaker 1: never seen one rubbed out and looked terrible there there.
Speaker 1: I just haven't run across. So you know, the odd time,
Speaker 1: and it's the odd time you'll see a bear that
Speaker 1: just is straight up rubbed, and you'll be like that
Speaker 1: bears rubbed, Brent. And I saw a bear that had mange,
Speaker 1: and I mean it's the whole back half of its
Speaker 1: body was bear. And I mean you're obviously I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna shoot that bear. It was bear naked. It still
Speaker 1: gives me bad dreams thinking about it. Um. Now, and
Speaker 1: that bear wasn't rubbed, I mean there was something wrong, yeah, um,
Speaker 1: but I have seen him. I put a picture action
Speaker 1: the Marchepile issue of Barony magazine of a rubbed bear
Speaker 1: that I took a photo of myself, and it was
Speaker 1: just so obvious. I mean, it just it just looked
Speaker 1: like a mangy dog. And there wasn't anything wrong with
Speaker 1: this bear. Its whole body was covered in hair, but
Speaker 1: it was just you could just tell us. And there
Speaker 1: may be certain regions where that's more common versus you know,
Speaker 1: other places, and that's what I have said. But I've
Speaker 1: hunted all over Canada and it's never seems to be
Speaker 1: a big issue anywhere. Yeah, I mean, because I thought
Speaker 1: the same thing. I thought, well, probably maybe just the
Speaker 1: places we've gone have have not had many rub bears.
Speaker 1: But well, last last spring we were in uh, where
Speaker 1: were we, British Columbia, and those bears coming into camp.
Speaker 1: We're just Christine And and now that was mid May, though,
Speaker 1: and you would expect that in mid May when the
Speaker 1: main data point that I'm using is this late June
Speaker 1: hunting that we're that we're hunting at Saskatchewan. But anyway,
Speaker 1: it's just not that big of an issue. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not a it's not a reason to not go,
Speaker 1: you know, not Okay, costs. So people are like, what's
Speaker 1: the spring bearing cost? What are you looking for? What province,
Speaker 1: what state you want to go to. I mean it
Speaker 1: ranges from pretty reasonable to pretty high versus do it
Speaker 1: yourself or a inclusive watch hunt. So it's what you
Speaker 1: want to experience and what you want to pay for.
Speaker 1: Here's the deal. You can hunt. There's places in Quebec
Speaker 1: that for a thousand dollars you can go on a
Speaker 1: six day spring bear hunt, stay in a nice camp,
Speaker 1: cook your own food, outfitter, show you where the bear
Speaker 1: baits are. And I'm serious. There there are places we
Speaker 1: can go for a thousand dollars, especially in Quebec, and
Speaker 1: hunt and guys kill bears and guys kill some good bears.
Speaker 1: Some places aren't some places like two. Well, let's talk
Speaker 1: about the let's talk about the prices and the different provinces. Okay,
Speaker 1: So Quebec, Quebec would be known for its fishing, it's
Speaker 1: beauty and it's affordability. A lot of fishing outfitters that
Speaker 1: are also bear outfitters in Quebec. It's like a it's
Speaker 1: a good place to go if you're looking for a
Speaker 1: bear hunt. Okay, it's a one bear province. Let's move
Speaker 1: over to Ontario. Ontario has a we're coming well, I
Speaker 1: guess we we got the other ones. Newfoundland, let's go
Speaker 1: back east. Newfoundland is a two bear province. New Brunswick
Speaker 1: is the two bear province. Um, those hunts in New
Speaker 1: Brunswick and Newfoundland are gonna be from two thousand to
Speaker 1: three thousand dollars, two thousand to thirty dollars most of
Speaker 1: them for a good hunt. Okay, that's the price range
Speaker 1: for week pretty much for a week fully guided hunt,
Speaker 1: you can and for that in that range in those places.
Speaker 1: Most of those places are gonna be fully guided like
Speaker 1: lodge type hunts. You're gonna be staying with the lives suppost,
Speaker 1: gonna be cooking your dinner, and you're gonna you're gonna
Speaker 1: pay between twenty and thirty five dollars in those provinces,
Speaker 1: if I could put it that way. Ontario is gonna
Speaker 1: be similar. Ontario has some economical hunts. The Ontario Spring Hunt,
Speaker 1: I think is on its last year before they re
Speaker 1: evaluated again to decide if they're going to renew it.
Speaker 1: Ontario didn't have a spring hunt for a long time,
Speaker 1: so Ontario is kind of on the fence. I think
Speaker 1: is the year they decide if they're going to renew
Speaker 1: their hunt. So it's it's a political deal. It's a
Speaker 1: bad deal. But Ontario hunts are usually in the two
Speaker 1: thousand dollar range. Two thousand We went in August. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we follow hunted Ontario. Yeah, and the berries were full, warm,
Speaker 1: full and ripe yes in late August. But we ended
Speaker 1: up having a heck of a hunt for a cheap,
Speaker 1: for cheap hu hunt um Manitoba in Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta
Speaker 1: are gonna be kind of the prime in terms of
Speaker 1: the cost is going to be more. But that's kind
Speaker 1: of your prime time places for spring bear hunting if
Speaker 1: we're just being honest. Um, costs are gonna be between
Speaker 1: and and these are gonna be like your uh for hope,
Speaker 1: I do undefend some other outfitters and other places, but
Speaker 1: these are your world class beta black bear hunts are
Speaker 1: going to be in these places, Trophy and there's all
Speaker 1: kind of different outfitters. There's out you know, you need
Speaker 1: to you need to talk to multiple outfitters and ask
Speaker 1: them what kind of stuff they offer. Uh. Ryan just
Speaker 1: talked about his buddy that hunted Alberta a few years
Speaker 1: ago at a great hunt, killed two monster bears, but
Speaker 1: set in an outfitters house for six days, board out
Speaker 1: of his mind to tell time to go hunt, killed
Speaker 1: two awesome bears, but didn't enjoy it because he just
Speaker 1: felt like it was he just didn't that much to do.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, We got to each their own, you know.
Speaker 1: Uh for us where I think we're more adventure bound,
Speaker 1: you know, waking up, eat breakfast, that's what we call Brent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my middle name. Maybe getting to go fish anytime you want,
Speaker 1: you know, and different things. That was nice as far
Speaker 1: as I wanted to sit and indoors till three or
Speaker 1: four o'clock. Not my thing, but if it's world class
Speaker 1: bear hunting, it may be worth it. So yeah. But yeah, well,
Speaker 1: and that's what every outfitter is gonna offer. Something different,
Speaker 1: like you know, in places we're going in Saskatchewan or
Speaker 1: like you know, staying in wall tense and like this
Speaker 1: remote camp, riding in boats. It's a little bit tougher.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit more of an adventure based kind
Speaker 1: of deal. Some people may not want that. Some people
Speaker 1: may want to stay in the house and have to
Speaker 1: have somebody cooking their meals every day, and and that's fun.
Speaker 1: I've been on hunts like that a ton of fun.
Speaker 1: You need to just talk to people and see what
Speaker 1: they see, what they do. I like to talk to
Speaker 1: somebody three or four times even, and that tests their
Speaker 1: level of patients and you will. The way I the
Speaker 1: way I think about it when I talked to somebody
Speaker 1: is you you really have to be discerned about that outfitter.
Speaker 1: But what I'm trying to understand is they are they honest?
Speaker 1: And are they gonna do what they say they're gonna do.
Speaker 1: Is this a person that I would feel comfortable sending
Speaker 1: my best friend and his daughter to hunt with based
Speaker 1: upon this phone conversation, And if I still have questions
Speaker 1: about that, then I'm not gonna go hunt with him.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I mean, you kind of
Speaker 1: you get a good feel for somebody on the phone
Speaker 1: to with multiple conversations, and the people legitimate folks like that,
Speaker 1: they realize that they are working for you. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're you're paying their light bill. Yeah, So that's a
Speaker 1: that's a big factor in me. Haven't been in the
Speaker 1: outfitting bitches myself somewhat for for ducks. Yeah, people want
Speaker 1: to know where their money is going, and if you're
Speaker 1: going to be honest about it, you want to tell
Speaker 1: them where it's going. You know, no surprises on that
Speaker 1: in Yeah. Well there's all different kind of outfitters. There's
Speaker 1: good ones and bad ones. Should just are Um it's
Speaker 1: the scatch. So Manitoban, Saskatchewan or one bear provinces um.
Speaker 1: Alberta is a two bear province, which Alberta is hard
Speaker 1: to beat. You can get you know, the prices are
Speaker 1: going to be from probably three thousand to five thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: but a lot of camps you go in and you're
Speaker 1: hunting two bears in a week. Some some outfitters would
Speaker 1: charge a trophy fielding the second bear. UM. But Alberta
Speaker 1: is an awesome place. I've been on a couple of
Speaker 1: really good hunts in Alberta. UM. So those are the
Speaker 1: three that I would say for baited spring hunts are
Speaker 1: the el primo Canadian baited spring bear hunts. British Columbia
Speaker 1: can't huntover bait, but they are el primo for Canadian
Speaker 1: spot and stock hunting, and they're known for big bears.
Speaker 1: They're known for good camps. They're known for like wall
Speaker 1: tent type camps. Uh in the mountains. Lot outfitters do that.
Speaker 1: I've hunted British Columbia. I think three three times and
Speaker 1: it's it's I'll go back. It's a ton of fun.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful, man, holy place, big mountains, wolves and grizzly bears.
Speaker 1: Not to change your subject is the bugs is bad.
Speaker 1: They're in spring as versus other provinces. Did we ever
Speaker 1: even think about bugs in British Columbia last year? No,
Speaker 1: we were seeing grizzly tracks, That's what I was thinking about. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We we never even broke out our thermselves. Is that right?
Speaker 1: That's crazy? Yeah, but it was a spot in stock hunts.
Speaker 1: So we're moving around a lot. Yeah. But now, bugs
Speaker 1: weren't bad there even when we set up, Like when
Speaker 1: Gary and I set up and filmed you when you
Speaker 1: went up, try to put the stock on that or
Speaker 1: did put the stock on that black bear? Across that
Speaker 1: field where we were at that we didn't have bug
Speaker 1: problems at all. Yeah, that's how they do. But definitely
Speaker 1: to think about wherever you're traveling is bugs. Yeah, logistics
Speaker 1: on that like uh, flying you know you can't fly
Speaker 1: with the beautane cart. Yeah, that's a good that's a
Speaker 1: good topic to bring. Ontario was if you remember, Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, yeah, but Saskatchewan. I'd rather had grizzly bears
Speaker 1: in our camp than the excute as we had. But yeah,
Speaker 1: bugsuits deterrent. The way that I described it is that
Speaker 1: some people say I'm not gonna spring bear it because
Speaker 1: of the bugs to either non issue if you have
Speaker 1: thermo cells, and they truly are, and when you're hunting
Speaker 1: click on thermocells. I've heard people be like, well, what
Speaker 1: about the smell? And I when they do that, I say,
Speaker 1: come here a little closer, and I slap him in
Speaker 1: the face. At the same time I'm picking him in
Speaker 1: the shin, because if that bear smells your thermo cell
Speaker 1: and runs away, he is also smelling a big human
Speaker 1: and running away. So I'm not worried about the scent
Speaker 1: of a thermocell on a bear bait. In Canada, we
Speaker 1: run two at a time, Like when I'm hunting me
Speaker 1: and Brent, he'll have one setting back by him and
Speaker 1: I have one right here, and it's just a non issue. Now,
Speaker 1: when you're skinning, you better bring that thermocell everywhere you
Speaker 1: go though, because if you trail that bear and you
Speaker 1: start skinning that bear out there, they'll carry you away.
Speaker 1: But you cook on your thermo cell and it's a
Speaker 1: non issue. And I've always I found out that you know,
Speaker 1: if the it's just like here, if the wind gets
Speaker 1: up big enough that it's blowing your thermosill away, it's
Speaker 1: blowing the skeeters away to that. Yeah, yeah, Um. What
Speaker 1: we've done in the past to have been mailed either
Speaker 1: mailed all our thermal sale stuff to the outfitter before
Speaker 1: the hunt. What you can do, or you buy it
Speaker 1: once you get into Canada, like if you fly into
Speaker 1: Winnipeg or Saskatoon or somewhere in Canada, usually you can
Speaker 1: go buy it. Uh. Here's the truth too, is that
Speaker 1: I've accidentally packed it in my luggage and never had
Speaker 1: any problem. You the watermelons, cartridges and the mountains are
Speaker 1: probably come down here. The days are gonna come down here. Um,
Speaker 1: the Canadian Mounted Police, wouldn't it be funny if we
Speaker 1: saw him trotting up the driveway on their horses, say,
Speaker 1: we heard your podcast, We heard you smuggled in watermelons
Speaker 1: and cartridges, bututane cartridges. Now it was an accident, it
Speaker 1: would be like get the Canada and be like dang.
Speaker 1: But when you can carry him in if you're driving,
Speaker 1: it's not a problem. They're not illegal, you just can't
Speaker 1: put them on airplane. Yeah. So, um, and what I
Speaker 1: just said was actually a lot that never happened. I
Speaker 1: have never smuggled watermelon or thermal cells into Canada. Just
Speaker 1: for the record, that was all a joke. Um, but really, folks,
Speaker 1: Question number twenty, Question number twenty. No, we were talking
Speaker 1: about the provinces and that that kind of dissects just
Speaker 1: in short, the Canadian provinces and kind of how they operate. Uh.
Speaker 1: You can hound hunt in British Columbia in the spring
Speaker 1: for bear if you want to. None of the others
Speaker 1: provinces are are bear hunting with hounds. Um, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think any of them. Actually, well no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you can you can you can hunt. You can hunt
Speaker 1: in the spring in in Ontario with hounds. Does it
Speaker 1: have to be with an outfit or can as? Yeah,
Speaker 1: any US person hunting in candidate it's either family. There
Speaker 1: is a a for direct family to hunt Canada without
Speaker 1: an outfitter, like if your dad lived in Canada, you could.
Speaker 1: I can't remember what they call it. It's been so long. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's a way for family to hunt Canada. But otherwise,
Speaker 1: you in Ontario, you can. I've never heard anybody in
Speaker 1: British Columbia doing that, but I'm pretty sure you can. Yeah. So, man, Hey,
Speaker 1: that's a pretty fairly comprehensive conversation we've had here boys
Speaker 1: about spring bear hunt. Can y'all think of any other
Speaker 1: you know, the thing that I'm trying to talk to
Speaker 1: people about, its limiting factors, and frequently ask questions, you know,
Speaker 1: like I don't want to go to Canada because of
Speaker 1: the bugs. I don't want to go to Canada because
Speaker 1: they can't bring back the meat. I don't want to
Speaker 1: go to Canada because I'm a sissy. What Your sissiness
Speaker 1: is your problem, and you're gonna have to take personal
Speaker 1: responsibility for it, right brand exactly, or I will lay
Speaker 1: the blame on you. What about weapons? Like, what's legal? Yeah,
Speaker 1: spring bear hunting in Canada? Okay? Are all three types? Shotguns, rifles,
Speaker 1: and archery? I would assume, Okay, you caught me off guard.
Speaker 1: Archery and firearms could be legal everywhere, you know, Like,
Speaker 1: so if you're going to spring bear hunt, it's not
Speaker 1: like you're just going on a spring bow hunt. Like
Speaker 1: you could carry any of the mainstream cartridges, muzzleloaders, uh, shotguns,
Speaker 1: anything like that. The only thing I don't know a
Speaker 1: hund percent about is crossbows. I believe there are a
Speaker 1: few provinces that don't allow crossbows and something else to
Speaker 1: ask you. Yeah, but most of them do, I want
Speaker 1: to say, of them allow crossbows, regular archery, traditional archery, muzzloaders, shotguns, rifles.
Speaker 1: There's nothing that you can't do, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: um except handguns. You cannot bring handguns in Canada. Um
Speaker 1: let me get listen, No, listen to this, listen to this.
Speaker 1: Last year I bought Shephard Nucom one of these little
Speaker 1: pistol BB guns on a trip and uh he, for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, when we left can here, that gun was
Speaker 1: in my truck, that pistol BB gun. Last year. No,
Speaker 1: I don't remember when it was. Well, you know, it's
Speaker 1: like a forty dollar be begun and we stayed the
Speaker 1: night in North Dakota. Okay, there's probably they are probably
Speaker 1: like one of those unsolved mystery shows about this about
Speaker 1: someone that saw me dispose of a handgun in a
Speaker 1: trash can at a roadside hotel in North Dakota, because
Speaker 1: that's what I did. We got to North Dakota and
Speaker 1: I found that pistol and I didn't It probably was
Speaker 1: legal to bring a BB gun, but I just didn't
Speaker 1: want the hassle off. Maurice was there. Uh, same with
Speaker 1: a Mota. I remember like pulling up to this trash can,
Speaker 1: like looking around. Stefanboy was looking and putting that BB
Speaker 1: gun in that. In that tonight on Unsolved Mysteries, somebody
Speaker 1: was probably up in like the tenth floor videoing like sun.
Speaker 1: You know, sweetie, that guy just threw a handgun in
Speaker 1: the trash can, peeled out. Duke's a hazard did out
Speaker 1: of the parking lot. Okay, sorry, I guess, uh so
Speaker 1: anything else I don't guess. Okay, weather weather from here,
Speaker 1: it's cold up there. What would you how would you
Speaker 1: describe it? Uh? Well, you can't just grab Arkansas because
Speaker 1: I've week before last I ran my air conditioning one
Speaker 1: day in the heat the next. So but we um
Speaker 1: the first year we went up there, we built to
Speaker 1: fire every night. Was in May. In late June, I
Speaker 1: don't think we ever. Uh. I think I had a
Speaker 1: fire most nights. There was. Some of the days though,
Speaker 1: it was like that day the horse fly. We come
Speaker 1: out and we get warm. It's eighties or nineties or
Speaker 1: something like that. I would say, I tell people to
Speaker 1: be prepared from for thirty to seventy degree weather into eighty.
Speaker 1: I mean that's a good average. So bring your jacket,
Speaker 1: bring your coat, bring your rain gear everywhere you go,
Speaker 1: but be prepared to for it to maybe be warm.
Speaker 1: You know, rain gear for sure, Bring your rain gear
Speaker 1: everywhere you go in in anywhere in Canada in the spring,
Speaker 1: you can leave camp and it be a bright, sunny,
Speaker 1: beautiful day and about the time you get to the
Speaker 1: bear Bait it may just come a gully washer out
Speaker 1: of nowhere. Yeah. I remember the first day we got there.
Speaker 1: I asked the outfitter. He said, all right, y'all, when
Speaker 1: y'all get your stuff together, said I need to take
Speaker 1: my rain done in think my raincoat with me or whatever.
Speaker 1: He said, Dude, this is Canada. You didn't take it
Speaker 1: with you where you go unless you want to get wet.
Speaker 1: You know what, though, I've never been just totally rained
Speaker 1: out in a week of Canadian hunting. When I first
Speaker 1: started hunting in Canada, I thought you might get a
Speaker 1: week where it just rain NonStop for six days. I
Speaker 1: have never experienced that. That that day or yeah, a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, it rained that day was one of
Speaker 1: the first day. We said, like forty five minutes and
Speaker 1: then it was gone. Remember the thunderstorm coming back through
Speaker 1: Compulsion Bay. I wasn't there. You guys were. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: went to the bank, got out of the boat. It
Speaker 1: was thunder lightning. It was bad. Yeah, were you okay?
Speaker 1: Me and Brent we're back. Yeah, y'all were hunting by
Speaker 1: yourself or we weren't there. Our guide was you know,
Speaker 1: Native Josh, and you know he's pretty rugged as they come,
Speaker 1: but he's like, guys, we're gonna make a pit stop.
Speaker 1: Went to the bank. Yeah, yeah, yep. Well, hey, excellent,
Speaker 1: Thank you guys. Time and um, what do we say, Brent?
Speaker 1: Keep the wild places wild? That's where the bears did
Speaker 1: say it again a little tighter compacted with Mark. I
Speaker 1: was sitting around tea and round up and I'll take it. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're gonna help me out right, keep the wild places wild,
Speaker 1: because that's where the bears lived in the springtime