WEBVTT - Beginners Guide to Spring Bear Hunting

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<v Speaker 1>out some Northwoods bear products. What do you guys have

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<v Speaker 1>in your hands? Brent? What you got in your hands? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>Gold Rush bear attracted. It's liquid form, and I got

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<v Speaker 1>some gold dust all here from Northwoods. You can can't,

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<v Speaker 1>can't What is it? What does it smell like? Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>butterscotch concentrate form. You use that stuff a ton, don't

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<v Speaker 1>you all the time? What is is that? I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>you say that the gold Rush mixed with friar grease

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<v Speaker 1>best stuff you do for attracting bear. Yeah. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I would probably use this and not even putting in

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<v Speaker 1>baiting my barrels. So yeah, yeah, it would bring bears in.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what you're saying. Good stuff. And the gold dust

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<v Speaker 1>smells like the gold Rush. It's just empowered form, which

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<v Speaker 1>is it's cleaner, it's a little easier. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's as potent, but it's a it's so it's not

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<v Speaker 1>as substitute for the gold Rush, but it's just an

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<v Speaker 1>addition to it that you can sprinkle on any kind

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<v Speaker 1>of bait that you have. Yeah, so that's some good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>in the past are still entered into our contest. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna put that in your coffee yeah, well, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>some honey in there, but it says right here on

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<v Speaker 1>the label it's five times sweeter than sugar. Put it

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<v Speaker 1>in their coffee, Splash a little bit on your neck

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<v Speaker 1>and your wife met gentlemen, Welcome to the Bear Honey

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<v Speaker 1>Magazine Global Headquarters. Good morning, Brent Reeves. Good morning, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we are again. You're reporting in from Central Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 1>Central Arkansas. It's a two hour and fifty eight minute

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<v Speaker 1>drive if you follow them speed recommendation. That's a long walk,

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<v Speaker 1>it is. Did you ride your mule up here? I

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<v Speaker 1>did not know Flashy mete for me yet. Mr Ryan Grab,

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<v Speaker 1>good morning, Good morning. You got me off the lake

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<v Speaker 1>and got me to come up the mountain. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan's got a freezer full of croppy but uh so

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<v Speaker 1>he's been crappie fishing, right. I introduced you last time

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<v Speaker 1>on the podcast as a guy that was killing bears

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<v Speaker 1>while my mama was still wiping my nose, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to continue on with that. So Ryan Grab

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<v Speaker 1>is uh a good friend of mine. For several years.

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan's hunted with me all over Canada and and we've

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<v Speaker 1>hunted together here in Arkansas. And uh Brent has end

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<v Speaker 1>with me all over Canada as well. And what we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about today is spring bear hunting. What I

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<v Speaker 1>want to do is I want to take somebody from

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<v Speaker 1>zero to hero about spring bear hunting and about forty

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes to an hour. I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>all the relevant issues that revolve around spring bear hunting

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<v Speaker 1>that have to do with timing, When do you go,

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<v Speaker 1>where do you go? Because there are there are states.

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<v Speaker 1>There are nine states that have spring bear seasons. They're

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<v Speaker 1>all the Canadian provinces except for some of the northern

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<v Speaker 1>provinces that you know, like none of it and uh

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<v Speaker 1>uh Nova Scotia are the only Canadian provinces that don't

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<v Speaker 1>have spring bear seasons. So I want to talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about Canadian bear hunting outfitters and

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<v Speaker 1>how guys can go up and hunt, and like talk

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<v Speaker 1>about costs because people are like how much does it cost? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about a crossing the Canadian border

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, there's all these limitations that guys think about.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember that guy's name, do you remember the

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<v Speaker 1>guy that Marvin or do you do you remember he

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<v Speaker 1>asked us about I want to tell the story about

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<v Speaker 1>what he asked us about. Do you not remember his

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<v Speaker 1>name is right? No, it wasn't markin Pierre, wasn't Pierre.

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<v Speaker 1>It was about the Canadian border officer. Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>something No I remember exactly. Okay, So we're gonna we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about a crossing the Canadian border with firearms

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<v Speaker 1>and Bosner's and what you need to do. Um, We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about. What we're trying to do is answer

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<v Speaker 1>the frequently asked questions, because I get questions all the

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<v Speaker 1>time from guys that have never been up there, and

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<v Speaker 1>they just have questions, Can you eat spring bear meat? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's a lot of things that in times past

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<v Speaker 1>bears have been managed in such a way where sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't have to harvest the meat, and it made

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<v Speaker 1>people think it was bad. But so we're gonna I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna tell you whether you can or not. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to listen, but we're gonna talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk about, uh frequently asked question, is our

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<v Speaker 1>spring bear hides rubbed out after a certain point, by

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<v Speaker 1>rubbed out meaning you know, it is to hide any good.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk about that we're gonna talk about how

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<v Speaker 1>you get hides and meet back from Canada. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk about do it yourself options in the Western United

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<v Speaker 1>States for spotting, stock hunting primarily, and bait hunting. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna talk about outfit and stuff, but also about

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<v Speaker 1>do it yourself stuff timing for that. Um, those are

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<v Speaker 1>those are some of the big ones that we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk about. So zero to hero, zero to spring bear

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<v Speaker 1>hunting hero in fort or five minutes with Brent Reeves

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Grab at the Global Headquarters. Um, Brent, first time,

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<v Speaker 1>first time you ever went with me to Canada was

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<v Speaker 1>in Saskatchewan. That's right? Is that right? That was on

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<v Speaker 1>the on the on the trip, the boat trip where

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<v Speaker 1>I was singing the record the Van fits Gerald when

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<v Speaker 1>we finally got off of it. Do you know the

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<v Speaker 1>words of that song that you can sing now? Uh, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a nine minute it's like the Canadian version

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<v Speaker 1>of Freebird. It's like twelve minutes long. We've got time forever.

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<v Speaker 1>You're able to lose listeners over that. But I do

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<v Speaker 1>remember the line that I said when when we stepped out,

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<v Speaker 1>when I stepped out of the boat finally nobody knows

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<v Speaker 1>where the love of God goes. When the waves turned

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<v Speaker 1>the minutes two hours. I remember saying that to you,

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<v Speaker 1>and you looked at me and like, I know you've

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<v Speaker 1>never heard that song. But he looked at me like,

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<v Speaker 1>did that dude, just make that up? Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>I was scared of that. But spring bear hunting, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the That was the first time, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was the time. It was summertime man far as hunting

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<v Speaker 1>in Arkansas? Was it? It was? It was the last

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<v Speaker 1>week of June. So what we're gonna start off with

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<v Speaker 1>is when do you go? Okay, let's start off with

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<v Speaker 1>when do you go? And then we'll talk about where

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<v Speaker 1>we went the last week of June and on that

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<v Speaker 1>particular hunt. A little bit of background. We're hunting with

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<v Speaker 1>outfitting far northern Saskatchewan, and we rode fifty five miles

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<v Speaker 1>on a boat and a giant Canadian Northern lake which

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<v Speaker 1>is almost like an with a about a horse crappy

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<v Speaker 1>boat and uh, we were coming out of the water

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<v Speaker 1>about six ft a couple to No, no, not that much,

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<v Speaker 1>but it felt like it. It felt like it. But

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<v Speaker 1>all the more, all the more adventure we had because

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<v Speaker 1>of how far we were back in hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 1>three miles south of the Arctic Circle. Yeah, because I

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<v Speaker 1>plotted it and checked it when we got back home.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was gonna say, a hundred sixty three

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<v Speaker 1>miles by boat. It was that far off from that.

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<v Speaker 1>We rode that much in the boat that week, and

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<v Speaker 1>then every day we wrote, y'all rode as much as

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<v Speaker 1>twenty miles one way in a day, did you not?

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<v Speaker 1>You probably you may have gone. I think they went

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<v Speaker 1>each day there and back just hunt. So you probably

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<v Speaker 1>rode three hundred miles in a boat and yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no telling. Yeah, you know what, I would do that

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<v Speaker 1>again at the heartbeat. Oh yes, yeah, just probably for

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<v Speaker 1>the fishing more than anything. That was a world class

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't know at the end, but yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the first times that we had had access

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<v Speaker 1>to just fishing right out from camp, and I mean

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<v Speaker 1>we were just catching fish like a big pike lake trout.

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<v Speaker 1>There was h it was and we kind of thought

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere else we go was gonna be like that, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was not even in similar waters. I don't say

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<v Speaker 1>there's fish everywhere, but not there were and they were

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<v Speaker 1>hungry and it was every third. I mean, you could

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<v Speaker 1>have averaged out. I promise you I would take the

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<v Speaker 1>oath right now. It was every third or fourthcast you

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<v Speaker 1>were catching colds. Do you remember how well you wouldn't remember, Brent,

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember how nervous I was when I lost

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Diamond Diamond spinner diamonds wouldn't know what it was. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was using his rod without permission. And these these

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<v Speaker 1>these big old spoons cost like nine dollars a piece.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that was what that was. That was

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<v Speaker 1>debait that everybody said, you got to have this or

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot. Look You look at it and you think,

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<v Speaker 1>I just novelty. You know, you don't catch nothing on that.

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<v Speaker 1>And no, that was it was. You caught fish up

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<v Speaker 1>until the point when I lost yours. Yeah, but we

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<v Speaker 1>had we had more. I remember I was legitimately. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like a little kid, like, hey dad, remember that

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<v Speaker 1>Remember that bait that you let me. That's what I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like, Oh man, okay, when to hunt. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get down to business. When to hunt. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know anything about springbear hunting, you hunt in May

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<v Speaker 1>and June. That is that is pretty much when you

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<v Speaker 1>hunt some of the some places actually opened their bare

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<v Speaker 1>seasons in April. Actually, a lot of the Canadian provinces

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<v Speaker 1>open in April, and some of the western states opened

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<v Speaker 1>in April, and even as much as April first, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but the bulk of bear hunting is done in May

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<v Speaker 1>and June because that April hunt is risky or snow

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<v Speaker 1>when you're hunting in the northern latitudes, and pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>you can only hunt spring bears up north. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>southern state that has a spring season. Arkansas, Georgia, North Carolina, Virginia,

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<v Speaker 1>West Virginia. I mean, none of those guys have spring seasons. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So you're hunting up north, and so what you're biologically,

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening is these bears have dinned for the last

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hundred twenty days or even longer than that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean a lot of times bears are up north

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<v Speaker 1>or going into the dens in October. And uh, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, when we hunted Manitoba, Canada, Southern Manitoba, Canada

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<v Speaker 1>the first week of November, we have seen bears every

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<v Speaker 1>year out of their dens first week in November. Ye,

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<v Speaker 1>But but it's not common and they're not coming out

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<v Speaker 1>very far from their dens. But let's so let's just

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<v Speaker 1>say bears are going into their dens around the first November,

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<v Speaker 1>so November, December, January, February, March, April. They've been in

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<v Speaker 1>it then for six months. They come out of the den.

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<v Speaker 1>Their hair is long, at its peak length because they

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<v Speaker 1>have grown the longest there possible to be insulated. Their

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<v Speaker 1>claws are sharp. Their their claws, its claws are just

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<v Speaker 1>like fingernails. I don't know if it's keratin or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is, but their their their claws have been growing

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<v Speaker 1>and they have not been walking around without use. Claws

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<v Speaker 1>are sharp. They come out of the den on favorable

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<v Speaker 1>days in in most places of the black Bear range,

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<v Speaker 1>bears will be coming out in April and might even

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<v Speaker 1>be coming out in snow. Like you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know much about bear biology, and and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, you would be like, well, does it bear

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<v Speaker 1>wait till it's just like super warm to come out,

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<v Speaker 1>or does he come out when there's snow on the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>They absolutely come out of their den, sometimes in the snow,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like a progressive state of awakeness. Like the

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<v Speaker 1>first time they come out. They they might not go

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<v Speaker 1>fifty yards from their den. Yeah, and then a week

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<v Speaker 1>later they might range out further and it's almost like

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're going out to try to find if there's food.

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<v Speaker 1>And basically when the food win there is a legitimate

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<v Speaker 1>food source, then they will start eet that food source

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<v Speaker 1>release their fecal plug, which that's a biological process of

0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:29.960
<v Speaker 1>bear doesn't a bear den to conserve energy, and you know,

0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:36.360
<v Speaker 1>they don't urinate or or defecate in general. I've personally

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<v Speaker 1>seen bear scout outside of a bear den in Arkansas

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the winter. So, but the in general,

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<v Speaker 1>bears do not urinate or defecate for that entire time

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<v Speaker 1>in the den. They come out, they've got a they've

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<v Speaker 1>got a plug that they have to release, and that

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<v Speaker 1>only comes after they ingest more food. Brent's grinning over there.

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<v Speaker 1>He's trying to think of a j trying not to

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<v Speaker 1>say he's grinning like the fifth grade for my whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>But let me ask you this, is it more time

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<v Speaker 1>or temperature that's the trigger for that when they're waking

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<v Speaker 1>up food source like they a bear does not then

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<v Speaker 1>because it's cold, it's not like he gets cold and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh man, it's cold, I want to go

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<v Speaker 1>it inn He goes to bed because the food source

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<v Speaker 1>runs out, and so he wakes up when the food

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<v Speaker 1>source comes back. Maybe their metabolism is so that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. They've taken digested as much as they can

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<v Speaker 1>go and they need to get up and right. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's when they start rambling. Yep. And it probably has

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<v Speaker 1>to do with you know, daylight period. I mean, all

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<v Speaker 1>the animals are working off you know, the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>daylight to understand what time of year it is. In

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<v Speaker 1>biological processes they're going on and stuff. But it's primarily

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<v Speaker 1>driven by food. And so if you have an early spring,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why we're talking about timming, if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a if you have an early spring, win in northern

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<v Speaker 1>Idaho on April one, it's sunny and getting in the

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<v Speaker 1>fifties and snow's melting off the top of the mountains,

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<v Speaker 1>which does happen Bears are gonna be rocking and rolling earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you might go to a Northern Idaho on

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<v Speaker 1>a do it yourself hunt on April the tenth, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure Idaho opens early and have a great

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<v Speaker 1>hunt and see bears, and then the next year you

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<v Speaker 1>go back out there and there's not a bear to

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<v Speaker 1>be found in the places that you were hunting are

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<v Speaker 1>covered in snow and the bears are still denned up.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the risk inside of April. And that's why

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<v Speaker 1>most bear hunting takes place later in the spring, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a more for sure, guaranteed deal. Percentage is

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<v Speaker 1>of going mid to late May would be prime time

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<v Speaker 1>and after that's right pride. If if you were just

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<v Speaker 1>to say what is prime time for spring bear hunt,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say from May the tenth to June the tenth,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be prime time. And here's why. Um well,

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<v Speaker 1>let me not get too far ahead. Let me describe

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening. Most Canadian outfitters start outfitting the first or

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<v Speaker 1>second week of May, and what you find inside of

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<v Speaker 1>that time period is that, let's say from May one

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<v Speaker 1>to May, let's categorize that as early spring, okay, and

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<v Speaker 1>the big boars are gonna be feeding. They're not They're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be keyed in on just getting resource into them.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not worried about the rut. So you can if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a board at a bait or if you

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<v Speaker 1>have a board located on the hillside on a spot

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<v Speaker 1>and stock do it yourself hunt. He's gonna be really predictable.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be close, and he's gonna be close, that's right.

0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Who's gonna stay close to that food source, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that is actually why I prefer early spring

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<v Speaker 1>for a spotting stock hunt, because spot and stock hunt.

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<v Speaker 1>If I go to Montana and I'm hunting, I might

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<v Speaker 1>spot a bear from a mile and a half away

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<v Speaker 1>on the side of a mountain. If you spot that

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<v Speaker 1>bear on May the first, there's a pretty darn good

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<v Speaker 1>chance that tomorrow he's going to be in that exact

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<v Speaker 1>same spot, or at least on that hillside. If you

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<v Speaker 1>spot if you're hunting in Montana on some of the

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<v Speaker 1>seasons in Montana go through the middle of June, you

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<v Speaker 1>spot that bear on June tenth in Montana could be rutting,

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<v Speaker 1>the sales are in season. He could be forever away

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<v Speaker 1>from there, that's right. So that's that's a general idea

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<v Speaker 1>of what's happening. So it works the same way with

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<v Speaker 1>a bait though you go in those first weeks of

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<v Speaker 1>May on a bated outfitted hunt or do it yourself.

0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Baited hunt in Idaho. Uh, you you're not gonna see

0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:13.200
<v Speaker 1>as many bears, but if you find a big one,

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<v Speaker 1>you can probably kill him. So second part of the

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<v Speaker 1>spring would be, let's say, from May the tenth tell June.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call that prime time kind of mid spring.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna have to worry about weather as much.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a less chance that you're just gonna be snowed in.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, my buddy Brian Strickland hunted last year the

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<v Speaker 1>first week of May in in Manitoba. He ended up

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<v Speaker 1>killing a big for the kind year after, but he

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<v Speaker 1>set through snow. In his video there's snow in the background.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't see as many animals as he would have later,

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<v Speaker 1>but he ended up killing a big bear first week

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<v Speaker 1>in May, Manitoba. The the So what happens on about

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<v Speaker 1>the twentye of May, though, is the rut starts to

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<v Speaker 1>kick in. Um. There's not a lot of data or

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<v Speaker 1>general information about the bear rut that I have seen

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<v Speaker 1>published or media talked about. You know, like the white

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<v Speaker 1>tail rut is like the most understood breeding process of

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<v Speaker 1>probably any game animal in the world. Now, is that

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<v Speaker 1>date that you're talking about when the rut kicks in.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that for every latitude or is it diminish as

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<v Speaker 1>you go. Well, here's the way it works is that bears,

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<v Speaker 1>boar bears and female bears whenever they get out of

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<v Speaker 1>the den and they have about a month to feed

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<v Speaker 1>and build their processes back up, then stuff starts to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of the bear rut is not like a white

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<v Speaker 1>tail rut. So a white tail rut is based upon

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<v Speaker 1>the actual conception date has everything to do with fawn

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<v Speaker 1>arrival in the spring. So they need those fonds to

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<v Speaker 1>be born a certain time. So they've gotta breed at

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<v Speaker 1>a certain time gestation period of a doe, deers tunter

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<v Speaker 1>days or something, So they gotta breed tunter days back

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<v Speaker 1>from the prime time period of that time. In the

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<v Speaker 1>southern United States, that window would be super wide because

0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:19.840
<v Speaker 1>our winners aren't that long or hard, and so in

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<v Speaker 1>the southern US you have a longer rut. But we

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<v Speaker 1>up in the northern Latin Tunes, like in Manitoba, those

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<v Speaker 1>fonds have to be born at a certain time. You

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<v Speaker 1>got this really fine rut. The bear rut is not

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<v Speaker 1>like that because of delayed implantation anytime there's a lull.

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<v Speaker 1>On the podcast, I talked about bear reproductive processes. My

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<v Speaker 1>favorite topic, No delayed implantation, head delayed implantation. It's fascinating

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<v Speaker 1>because basically bears are a low dense the animal, so

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<v Speaker 1>that means they're a herd animal like a deer that

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<v Speaker 1>are just everywhere like so a salth bear has to

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<v Speaker 1>have this elongated period of time when she can be

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<v Speaker 1>bred so that she'll bump into a boar because there's

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<v Speaker 1>such a low density. And it doesn't mean that there's

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot of them, it just means that spatially

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's gonna not be forty bears per square mile.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just not gonna happen anywhere. It's just not natural.

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<v Speaker 1>So they have this elongated period of time when they

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<v Speaker 1>can be bred. So when love, when love happens brent

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<v Speaker 1>uh and they meet perchance Romeo and Juliet in the

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<v Speaker 1>mountains of Manitoba or the Ozarks, and something in the

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<v Speaker 1>in conception happens. Okay um. The the egg is fertilized,

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<v Speaker 1>but it does not attach to the uterine wall until

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<v Speaker 1>sixty days before gestation in November. That's when gestation starts

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<v Speaker 1>after the bear has gone through the fall. Her body

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<v Speaker 1>is determined if she can rear young egg attaches to

0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:08.840
<v Speaker 1>the uterine wall, gestation starts. Bear cubs are born sixty

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<v Speaker 1>days later in the dent. So all that to say

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<v Speaker 1>that there's not this like pinpoint conception date like a

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<v Speaker 1>white tail because of delayed implantation. Could you make a

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<v Speaker 1>diagram of that? Give me the chug boards. When a

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<v Speaker 1>boy bear loves a girl bear, we're taking up, We're

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<v Speaker 1>taking a turn. Uh No, but that makes so there's

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<v Speaker 1>this bear can be bred any time of the year

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<v Speaker 1>like she could. She could be bred in early May.

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<v Speaker 1>But the research that I've done on a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>different research projects showed that pete conception date was around

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<v Speaker 1>mid June for at least a couple of these bear

0:23:56.520 --> 0:24:01.760
<v Speaker 1>populations that they had really tested. So Pete pete conception date,

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<v Speaker 1>breeding date was like mid June. So I compare the

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<v Speaker 1>months of May in June to the months of October

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<v Speaker 1>and November for white tips. So late October stuff is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be happening. Um, have you seen rut activity the

0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:21.960
<v Speaker 1>last week of May? Or have you hunted? We have?

0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:25.560
<v Speaker 1>We hunted much in last mostly just June. Okay, you've

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:30.800
<v Speaker 1>mainly hunted in June with well, I have seen um,

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:36.640
<v Speaker 1>for sure rutting going on in late May, I mean bears,

0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:40.800
<v Speaker 1>boar bears with sous. I've also seen boar bears following

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<v Speaker 1>sALS in early May. Uh. But so that last week

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<v Speaker 1>of May. That's why that's such a hotspot is because

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:54.680
<v Speaker 1>the bears are still fairly predictable. Like if you find

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<v Speaker 1>a boar in a baby, he's probably gonna be there

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<v Speaker 1>for a while. But there also might be cruising boards

0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:03.320
<v Speaker 1>that find you right you get into mid Gin and

0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:05.240
<v Speaker 1>it's like hunting the white tail rut. That's what I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna say. If you know a hunter is on

0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:11.879
<v Speaker 1>a bait somewhere and they're not getting pictures of what

0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:16.080
<v Speaker 1>they're considering shooters, it's just like a white tail buff.

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<v Speaker 1>When that ruts kicked in, any day, there could be

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<v Speaker 1>a monster. How many times were we in Saskatchewan in

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<v Speaker 1>June and getting pictures of bears that nobody had ever seen,

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<v Speaker 1>brand new? Yeah? Every day it was like a new bear,

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<v Speaker 1>a new bear. Yeah. And we were hunting the last

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<v Speaker 1>week of June pretty much twenties of June, and so

0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:45.280
<v Speaker 1>that was classic rut stuff. Brett and I witnessed a bear.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know they ever connected, but you called it

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<v Speaker 1>frolic the frolic yeah, and and uh, well we saw

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<v Speaker 1>him breed not that year, but another year another year,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean straight the old three wheeler. Mm hmm. Didn't

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<v Speaker 1>we three wouldn't we see a three legged bear breed?

0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:10.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you clarified that because three wheeler it was

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<v Speaker 1>a three legged bear. Yeah, indeed, that was the actually

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<v Speaker 1>the next year, yeah, after after the frolican bears, which

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<v Speaker 1>was stam Ass hunt where the bears came in on

0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:26.560
<v Speaker 1>top of was but that same year where the bear

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<v Speaker 1>got so close to us, you know the road activity

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:35.240
<v Speaker 1>Ryan had that had that encounter with that aggressive sal Yeah. Yeah,

0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 1>you watched U a boar and a sal fight. She

0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:45.040
<v Speaker 1>had a cub up tree. Yeah, so I shot the boar.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't make it thirty yards. She goes overwhere and

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much tears his hind quarters off as he's dead

0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:57.760
<v Speaker 1>malls and yeah, and she was drooling and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if she wins me or sees me, but she

0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:03.080
<v Speaker 1>finally makes her way towards me. And it's the first

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:06.640
<v Speaker 1>time I'd ever carried bear spray, first hunt ever ever,

0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:09.119
<v Speaker 1>and it was just an afterthought. I thought, you know,

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 1>I got this, why not bring it? I've had it

0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 1>sitting at home for years and didn't have it handy.

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 1>It was buried in my backpack. So as she kept

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<v Speaker 1>getting closer, Yeah, I'm in the ground blind. So after

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 1>seeing her do what she did to the bear I'd killed,

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:31.000
<v Speaker 1>it's like not to pull this out. And I go

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<v Speaker 1>to talking to her and try to get her run off,

0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:35.920
<v Speaker 1>and she would not. And finally when she got within

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<v Speaker 1>four yards probably I thought I want to let her

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<v Speaker 1>up and see what happens, and it scared her off.

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<v Speaker 1>It works, It worked. Yeah, that was a pretty touchy situation. Um, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a pretty good rundown of wind to

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<v Speaker 1>hunt in the pros and cons of early hunh late hunting.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh do you all think we've covered it? Y'all have

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<v Speaker 1>any other comments on wind to hunt or questions? Well,

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 1>you're probably going to see more bears, you think, probably

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 1>in that June period when after Yeah, the the mid

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<v Speaker 1>to late June, you're gonna see more. Okay, now here's

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:19.240
<v Speaker 1>somebody for somebody asking. Here, here's the other thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I have not personally seen this because my late June

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:27.359
<v Speaker 1>hunting has produced a lot of bear shidings. But they say,

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 1>and this makes sense, as the as the spring progresses

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:34.280
<v Speaker 1>and more natural food comes available, bears will spread out

0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 1>and be harder to find, just like in white tail hunting.

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 1>If food is everywhere, they're hard to find, they don't respond.

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Debate as well. That being said in late in Saskatchewan,

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 1>way up north like we were, that doesn't seem to

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 1>be an issue. Yeah, where's more conifers and not any egg?

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, no berries out, no kind of masked hard

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 1>or soft. Yeah yeah. But I think in a lot

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:02.360
<v Speaker 1>of places late June would be tougher for bears responding

0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:05.719
<v Speaker 1>because grass is growing up, insects are starting to pop out.

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:09.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, they're just in a bare prefers natural food

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:12.240
<v Speaker 1>overbait almost all the time. I think if I was

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:15.160
<v Speaker 1>going to go for the first time, anybody was one

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 1>of the recommendation, I would say, you know, first of June,

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 1>first week of June would be prime time. Yep, to

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 1>get both, You'll get you both occurrences. That's right, exactly. Okay.

0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Number two, Where to hunt? Where to hunt? Okay. In

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 1>the United States, there are nine states at least that's

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:43.240
<v Speaker 1>that's what I have figured. Nine states that offer spring

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:56.400
<v Speaker 1>bear hunting here. They are Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Oregon, Washington, Utah, Arizona, Alaska,

0:29:56.840 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 1>and certain parts of Maine that are in side of

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 1>these tribal lands. So I had to put Maine in

0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 1>there because you can spring bear hunt in Maine on tribals.

0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Is that the only Eastern state that has spring hunt.

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Maine used to have a spring bear hunt like statewide

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 1>and they shut it down. Uh was that from aunt?

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely anti hunting, nothing, no biological but bear. Maine has

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 1>the largest bear population of any state in the for

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 1>sure in the eastern US. California and some of those

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 1>bigger states might potentially have more, but Maine has an

0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 1>estimated bear population of thirty thousand bears. I mean, bears

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:45.960
<v Speaker 1>are like just massively increasing. They usually have they usually

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 1>kill about three thousand bears a year. Maine. Absolutely anti

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 1>hunting sentiment that shut down the spring bear hunt. But

0:30:54.600 --> 0:31:00.239
<v Speaker 1>there's some big Native American tribal lands in Maine. One

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 1>of these pennob Scott, and we have multiple outfitters in

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Barony magazine that guy on penob Scott. Um. So let's

0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 1>let's just briefly go through these. Idaho is like the

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 1>epicenter of bear hunting in the Western US. Idaho has

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>the most liberal seasons, has lots of bears, lots of

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:26.720
<v Speaker 1>public land, you can use hounds, you can use bait,

0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:31.240
<v Speaker 1>or you can spot and stock. Idaho is like, uh,

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 1>in the movie Lord of the Rings, like, what was

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 1>the elvish Rivendale. I've never watched that. You read next

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:45.240
<v Speaker 1>wearing a pair of overalls that looked like he bought

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:49.600
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty two and he's squirrel hunted in him

0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 1>since then, and they've never actually pretty sharp overall. That's

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 1>a question about true grit. But Lord of the just

0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 1>watched that the other day. Uh yeah, Rooster, yeah yeah.

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like the nerd. I'm like the nerdy. Now,

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I've never watched witchcraft. Um. In Lord of the Rings,

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:24.560
<v Speaker 1>i think it's called Rivendale. That is the where the

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Speaker 1>elves live, and it's like this like hub of all

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 1>things good. It's like it's like, you know, that is

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:36.680
<v Speaker 1>I I agree. I've been on the only spring bear

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:39.239
<v Speaker 1>hunt that I've been on that I didn't go with

0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 1>with you wasn't Ida on it and can you can

0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 1>bait on public ground there. That's right. You can go

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 1>up there to do it yourself. Bait hunt. You can

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:51.320
<v Speaker 1>go up there by hound permit. You there's a couple

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:53.280
<v Speaker 1>of things you have to do, but buy hound permit.

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 1>If you do itself, do it yourself. Bait per bait

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 1>hunt you have to buy bait permit and then it's

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 1>not very expensive. Hows are cheap. It's beautiful. I'm pretty sure.

0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 1>The Idaho bear season, um, I want to say it

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 1>starts on April one. Check the REGs. It's either April

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 1>one or April fift Montana starts April fifteen, So let's

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 1>go from Idaho. Montana is a great spring bear hunting destination.

0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 1>But you can't run hounds, you can't bait. It's all

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 1>spot and stock hunting. You go up there and buy

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:26.800
<v Speaker 1>a tag for three or fifty bucks. The western side

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:28.840
<v Speaker 1>of the state is where the bears are gonna be

0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Idaho pretty much. The eastern side of Idaho is like

0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 1>big plains, you know, like Buffalo Country. The western side

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:40.120
<v Speaker 1>of the western one third of Idaho was in the

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Rocky Mountains basically, um the highest bear densities in Montana

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 1>are going to be in northwest Montana. Uh. Now, is

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:52.360
<v Speaker 1>there only certain units in Montana or is that statewide? Yeah?

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Pretty much the western third of the state's gonna have

0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:59.680
<v Speaker 1>a bear season, from like Bozeman or the Missoula up

0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 1>to Libby and uh Callaspell. I can't remember all that,

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 1>but like you can, you could essentially say that western

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:12.719
<v Speaker 1>third of Montana is gonna for sure percent every place

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:14.880
<v Speaker 1>is gonna have a spring bear season. There's lots of

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 1>wilderness areas, there's big blocks of National forest. Um Man,

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 1>if you could just get in any of that country

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:28.240
<v Speaker 1>on the western side and learn it, you're gonna find bears.

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 1>It's not easy, uh, but it's doable. Last year we

0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:35.800
<v Speaker 1>took our mules to my I've hunted in the spring

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 1>in Montana three years and had at a rough time

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:43.560
<v Speaker 1>two years and and didn't kill bear. The third year

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:45.719
<v Speaker 1>we kind of got it figured out and we we

0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:48.479
<v Speaker 1>killed a bear and and probably I mean, I feel

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 1>like I kind of know what's going on. But so

0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 1>that's Montana. Montana opens up April, goes to June one,

0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of units into June fift in some units,

0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 1>so you can hunt their for about two months. Um,

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:07.239
<v Speaker 1>tags about three and fifty bucks. Wyoming, northwest Wyoming is

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna have a bear season. Uh, it's less of the

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 1>state is open to bear hunting. Um, it's probably not

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 1>as good as Idaho and Montana in terms of bear densities,

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:23.440
<v Speaker 1>even though there's a ton of bears and Wyoming. You

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:26.399
<v Speaker 1>just don't when you hear guys talking about going out

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:29.840
<v Speaker 1>west there there, if they're traveling, they're usually hunting Idahoa,

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Idaho or Montana. Is Wyoming spotting stock or is it

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:36.840
<v Speaker 1>a bait? You can you can hunt over bait and

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Wyoming in the spring. Now, is there are grizzlies? And

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:45.760
<v Speaker 1>but I didn't know. Yeah, a lot of that country,

0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Yes you do. And and especially in the greater Yellowstone

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:54.839
<v Speaker 1>ecosystem northwest of Montana. I mean, excuse me, northwest Wyoming. Um,

0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:57.680
<v Speaker 1>for sure, there's gonna be grizz in a lot of

0:35:57.719 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 1>that country. So it's for sure. So have you got

0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:03.359
<v Speaker 1>to think about and southwest Montana you gotta worry about

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:08.320
<v Speaker 1>grizz too. Um. Yeah, I never saw griz where I

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 1>was at in Montana. Gris we were a little bit

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 1>north of where they were Um, we were kind of

0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 1>hunting like mm hm central western Montana and we didn't

0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:26.880
<v Speaker 1>see Griz, but all all of it could have been

0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:31.439
<v Speaker 1>Grizz country. I mean we were prepared for Griz. We had, Yeah,

0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:34.319
<v Speaker 1>we did, and I knew we probably wouldn't see him.

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean everybody, everybody that our contacts up there were

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 1>just like, you're probably not gonna see grizz of bear.

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:42.520
<v Speaker 1>And that's good. When you're black bear hunt you don't

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 1>have to worry about that. But but uh, okay, uh

0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:51.200
<v Speaker 1>so Wyoming I have less I have less experience with Wyoming,

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:55.719
<v Speaker 1>but good hunting. You can't non residents can't hunt wildern's

0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:57.680
<v Speaker 1>areas and Wyoming you gotta have a guide to go

0:36:57.760 --> 0:37:04.960
<v Speaker 1>into wilderness areas. Um we uh anyway, Uh, Oregon and

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Washington have spring bear seasons. They're a little bit tighter.

0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:11.319
<v Speaker 1>There's different places you have to apply for. Uh, it's

0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:14.279
<v Speaker 1>different kind of hunting. It's Oregon and Washington are gonna

0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 1>have a lot more thickly forested regions. Um. But great hunting,

0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:23.240
<v Speaker 1>great spring hunting. Um Utah has a very limited hunt

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:26.760
<v Speaker 1>in the spring. I mean that like fifty tags or something.

0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:29.719
<v Speaker 1>But you can hunt over bait. Bryan Strickland kill the

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:31.839
<v Speaker 1>bear in Utah a couple of years ago, drew a tag.

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 1>It's a draw state, and they don't. I want to say,

0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:41.520
<v Speaker 1>it's a very limited hunt. Uh. Arizona, boy, don't get

0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 1>me talking about Arizona. They have they have a spring

0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:51.919
<v Speaker 1>bear hunt, and uh, that's right for sure. And it's yeah,

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't think New Mexico has a spring hunt. I

0:37:54.560 --> 0:38:00.719
<v Speaker 1>don't think so. Um. I'm not gonna too much about

0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Arizona other than that they have a spring hunt and

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:04.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of it's I'm pretty sure a lot of

0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:08.600
<v Speaker 1>it's draw or you can buy some leftover tags. Um.

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Alaska is el primo black bear capital of the you know,

0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:18.160
<v Speaker 1>it's not the lower forty eight, but Alaska. And uh

0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:22.560
<v Speaker 1>and then like I said, in Maine, on on tribal lands,

0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:31.560
<v Speaker 1>so okay, uh, let's talk about let's talk about crossing

0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:36.920
<v Speaker 1>the border in Canada. These are things that people like

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:40.399
<v Speaker 1>are limiting factors. Like sometimes people are intimidated, like they've

0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:42.279
<v Speaker 1>never been up there and they're like, how do we

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:45.480
<v Speaker 1>cross the border. I'm still thinking about that guy's name.

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember. It was Marvin or Melvin Orice. I

0:38:54.960 --> 0:38:58.000
<v Speaker 1>knew it. I knew it, But that guy on the

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:09.520
<v Speaker 1>beatle Juice named Maurice, I saw that one. Uh but Maurice,

0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:13.399
<v Speaker 1>he was he hadn't shaved in a couple of days.

0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:15.719
<v Speaker 1>He had on the uniform and he was setting in

0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:20.120
<v Speaker 1>the station. But um, being a policeman for the last

0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:24.120
<v Speaker 1>since n when you wear a uniform, yata, you ought

0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:25.840
<v Speaker 1>to look I mean, you don't have to look out standing,

0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:29.360
<v Speaker 1>but you should look decent more recently like he'd been

0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:33.800
<v Speaker 1>on the job for a while, anybody. The thing that

0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:37.240
<v Speaker 1>tickled me was that we went through there in Clay's

0:39:37.280 --> 0:39:41.439
<v Speaker 1>truck and you could not cram another case, and plus

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 1>we had a dog. You couldn't have fit another water

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 1>bottle in the cab of the truck, true for real,

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:50.800
<v Speaker 1>in the cabin in the back. We had cases and

0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:54.239
<v Speaker 1>boxes and camera equipment and a dog box back there.

0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:59.440
<v Speaker 1>And Maurice said, what's your intentions in Canada? And we

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 1>told me were on a bear hunt. And he said

0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:05.240
<v Speaker 1>do you have any firearms? Clay said nope, we're bow hunters.

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:08.800
<v Speaker 1>And then he said do you have any fireworks? No? No, no, no,

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:12.040
<v Speaker 1>yes he did. He didn't say it like that though,

0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:17.160
<v Speaker 1>I remember exactly what he said. He said, Okay, So

0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Brent has been law enforcement, and Brent Tutor has tutored

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:24.080
<v Speaker 1>me over the years on how to present myself to

0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:27.440
<v Speaker 1>law enforcement. Should I be stopped number one? Or should

0:40:27.440 --> 0:40:30.479
<v Speaker 1>I be crossing the border. And he says, they want

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:34.440
<v Speaker 1>quick and precise answers. They don't want to see hesitation.

0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:40.200
<v Speaker 1>They're trying to see if there's inconsistency in your answers

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 1>and delays or lags or some kind of gesture that

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:47.480
<v Speaker 1>makes them think that you're nervous when you ask him

0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:51.960
<v Speaker 1>a certain type of question. Yeah, basically tell the truth.

0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 1>But so anyway, so Brent had Brent had instructed me

0:40:56.120 --> 0:40:59.560
<v Speaker 1>to be very quick and assertive with my answers and

0:40:59.640 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 1>to give him nothing more than they asked for, because

0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:04.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, being from the South, you know, it's just

0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:07.160
<v Speaker 1>like you're kind of like they're like, so what do

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:10.280
<v Speaker 1>you why are you here? Well, you know, my buddy,

0:41:11.080 --> 0:41:12.880
<v Speaker 1>he had me up here a few years ago to

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:15.080
<v Speaker 1>bear hunt and we had a nice time. We killed

0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:20.000
<v Speaker 1>some bears. And you know, if you ask somebody what

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:21.960
<v Speaker 1>time and he is, don't tell him how the watchers

0:41:22.040 --> 0:41:24.840
<v Speaker 1>might just tell him what time it wasn't. That's right. Okay,

0:41:24.880 --> 0:41:28.399
<v Speaker 1>So this is what he said. As he said, he said,

0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:32.160
<v Speaker 1>do you have firearms? No, what do you have for fireworks?

0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:35.520
<v Speaker 1>That's what he said. What he said, what do you

0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:40.360
<v Speaker 1>have for fireworks? And I and I looked at it

0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:44.040
<v Speaker 1>and I said, I said firearms. And then he said

0:41:44.120 --> 0:41:47.520
<v Speaker 1>what do you have for fireworks? He got frustrated with

0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:52.680
<v Speaker 1>it because I repeat, like and he he asked it

0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:54.759
<v Speaker 1>so quick as if he were going to trick me

0:41:55.520 --> 0:41:59.480
<v Speaker 1>into disclosing that we had a truck full of bottle

0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:02.400
<v Speaker 1>rockets or something. I couldn't imagine. That must be a

0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:05.200
<v Speaker 1>thing or something. It's it llegally that fireworks in Canada.

0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:10.560
<v Speaker 1>And why he thought that me and Brent Reids had fireworks,

0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:14.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's a thing. They've caught people smuggling

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:16.759
<v Speaker 1>some fireworks through there or something as well. What I

0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:22.080
<v Speaker 1>later I did a little research. The deal was the wildfires.

0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, okay, okay, that's that's the deal on on

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:30.279
<v Speaker 1>on fireworks in Canada. As you know, they have enough

0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:34.080
<v Speaker 1>trouble with lightning strikes. You know, it's a jillion acres

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:35.840
<v Speaker 1>up there that you can't get to by roads. So

0:42:36.680 --> 0:42:42.520
<v Speaker 1>it was it's fire. Danger was doing his job. Holy cow,

0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:45.120
<v Speaker 1>we could take over Canada with them. So you got

0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:50.000
<v Speaker 1>rid of the smoke balls there. Do you remember that

0:42:50.280 --> 0:42:53.480
<v Speaker 1>we had I had like the day before we left

0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:58.640
<v Speaker 1>for Canada. Well, we're back up in May and June.

0:42:59.080 --> 0:43:02.640
<v Speaker 1>We are really June in Arkansas. I will not pass

0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 1>a watermelon stand without stopping him by a watermelon, Like

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:09.360
<v Speaker 1>I just I just can't. Anyway, I had bought this

0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:13.680
<v Speaker 1>big watermelon the day before and as we were leaving

0:43:13.719 --> 0:43:17.440
<v Speaker 1>for Canada, I was like, I'm bringing the watermelon. I

0:43:17.560 --> 0:43:20.680
<v Speaker 1>shoved this watermelon in the truck. And you're not supposed

0:43:20.719 --> 0:43:23.800
<v Speaker 1>to bring fruits and you have to declare like fruits

0:43:23.840 --> 0:43:26.759
<v Speaker 1>and vegetables like if you cross the border. Well, we

0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:31.080
<v Speaker 1>were trying to keep things simple. We were and uh,

0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:38.040
<v Speaker 1>out of sight, out of mind, and so anyway, I

0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:40.360
<v Speaker 1>mean the watermelon was like laying like in the open

0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:44.280
<v Speaker 1>in the back seat in anyway, you know, I didn't disclose.

0:43:44.320 --> 0:43:47.399
<v Speaker 1>I didn't I didn't claim the watermelon. And anyway, when

0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:49.440
<v Speaker 1>we got through there we were it was like it

0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:51.279
<v Speaker 1>was like smoking in the band that we were like

0:43:51.680 --> 0:43:55.960
<v Speaker 1>who got a watermelon? But we told him we had

0:43:56.000 --> 0:43:58.120
<v Speaker 1>a dog in the back we could and he never

0:43:58.239 --> 0:44:01.239
<v Speaker 1>even looked. He said, you got the paper work, handing

0:44:01.360 --> 0:44:04.120
<v Speaker 1>the paperwork, you know, the verification, he had all the shots.

0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:05.840
<v Speaker 1>He never looked back there. We could have had a

0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:10.120
<v Speaker 1>dog pin full of babies back there. That It was

0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:17.120
<v Speaker 1>just no. We were legit with the dog and the fireworks,

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:19.680
<v Speaker 1>and we didn't have any firearms. But yeah, we didn't

0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:25.520
<v Speaker 1>have any tobacco. You were bootleg and watermelon ye yep.

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Fireworks man, yep. So okay, crossing the border. You The

0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:35.000
<v Speaker 1>only thing that you have to have if you're crossing

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:39.680
<v Speaker 1>the border is a simple non residents Firearms declaration form

0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:42.600
<v Speaker 1>that used to intimidate me before I had done it.

0:44:43.280 --> 0:44:46.720
<v Speaker 1>You go online and you type in in the Google

0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 1>non Resident Firearms Declaration for Canada and to pull up

0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:56.440
<v Speaker 1>what's called RCMP nine. It's a one page form asked

0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:59.719
<v Speaker 1>for your just all your information, the make of the

0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:03.400
<v Speaker 1>gun on, the serial number, the caliber, how many bullets

0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:06.160
<v Speaker 1>you're bringing, and that's all it is. And you it's

0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:10.400
<v Speaker 1>best to print that off before you go and you

0:45:10.560 --> 0:45:13.400
<v Speaker 1>just hand it to him that in your passport. And

0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:18.200
<v Speaker 1>you can't take pistols, that's right. No handguns cost twenty

0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:20.440
<v Speaker 1>five dollars for that firefps declaration for him, you do

0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:22.560
<v Speaker 1>have to pull over and take an inside, and they

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:24.399
<v Speaker 1>have the right to come out and look at your gun.

0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:26.439
<v Speaker 1>They've never done it one time. For me, I don't

0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:29.120
<v Speaker 1>know how many times I've crossed the Canadian border with

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:32.000
<v Speaker 1>firearms and they have never one time looked at my gun.

0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Though they have that right, and uh so it's no

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:38.480
<v Speaker 1>big deal getting the farms across. You do have to

0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:42.279
<v Speaker 1>have a valid passport. Um, you can't be you know,

0:45:42.320 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 1>if you've got like felonies on your record or something,

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:49.400
<v Speaker 1>you probably better do some checking on whether you across

0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:52.879
<v Speaker 1>the border. Um. I got a question because every time

0:45:52.960 --> 0:45:57.719
<v Speaker 1>I've been to Saskatchewan, I've flown head and rode with y'all. Yeah,

0:45:57.800 --> 0:46:00.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, I got with you at the airport. But

0:46:00.880 --> 0:46:04.560
<v Speaker 1>when we went to Ontario, we had to have a

0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:07.399
<v Speaker 1>if you remember, which has been a few years ago,

0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:12.040
<v Speaker 1>a valid hunting license or a hunting license from the

0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:14.840
<v Speaker 1>year before. In the States. They wasn't gonna let us

0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:20.799
<v Speaker 1>through if we didn't have a hunting license for the States. Yeah,

0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:23.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm glad you brought that up because I

0:46:23.080 --> 0:46:26.480
<v Speaker 1>almost forgot about that. You're right, we and and in

0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:29.799
<v Speaker 1>that particular case with that outfitter, we had to buy

0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:33.280
<v Speaker 1>our license before we got there, which is not common.

0:46:33.600 --> 0:46:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Usually the outfitter sells you the license once you're in camp.

0:46:36.960 --> 0:46:39.000
<v Speaker 1>That was another thing I was gonna cover. Talk to

0:46:39.080 --> 0:46:40.840
<v Speaker 1>your outfitter and say, do I need to buy a

0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:42.560
<v Speaker 1>license before I get there or do I buy it

0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:47.840
<v Speaker 1>from you? Every place except Ontario I had the outfitters

0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:50.040
<v Speaker 1>sold me the license. But yeah, we showed up in

0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:54.239
<v Speaker 1>Ontario said hey, we need to buy nonresident bear tag

0:46:54.360 --> 0:46:56.560
<v Speaker 1>and they said, okay, show me go ahead, and do

0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:59.640
<v Speaker 1>you have a license from last year? And I mean,

0:46:59.760 --> 0:47:03.280
<v Speaker 1>just by chance, both of us had our Arkansas hunting license,

0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:06.920
<v Speaker 1>but I mean I cleaned out my wallet went up

0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:11.160
<v Speaker 1>the same thing and just almost their way. So what

0:47:11.239 --> 0:47:14.800
<v Speaker 1>would have happened? This lady made us believe that we

0:47:14.880 --> 0:47:20.000
<v Speaker 1>couldn't have bought a tag. Wow, And I don't know

0:47:20.200 --> 0:47:22.840
<v Speaker 1>if that, you know, it's been so long. I forgot

0:47:22.880 --> 0:47:25.200
<v Speaker 1>to research that to see if that was legit. But

0:47:25.520 --> 0:47:27.880
<v Speaker 1>since then I have carried a hunting license and my

0:47:27.960 --> 0:47:30.759
<v Speaker 1>hunter's AD card, even though they don't ask for it,

0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:33.200
<v Speaker 1>like when we buy a license in Saskatchewan or Manitoba.

0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:36.960
<v Speaker 1>They don't ask for a hunter's a card. Uh So anyway,

0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:41.040
<v Speaker 1>just bring your hunter's AD card from whatever state you're in.

0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:44.200
<v Speaker 1>And if you're with an outfit or communication, that's right,

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:48.400
<v Speaker 1>that's right. Ask questions. Okay, let's talk now about how

0:47:48.480 --> 0:47:52.200
<v Speaker 1>to get hides and meet back from Canada. Now, when

0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:54.359
<v Speaker 1>you flew you did all the same things. You had

0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:57.600
<v Speaker 1>to declare. You know, you've never brought a gun though,

0:47:57.600 --> 0:48:00.560
<v Speaker 1>you've always bow hunted archery, but you had to go

0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:04.399
<v Speaker 1>through Canadian customs, so you you essentially had the same

0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:06.560
<v Speaker 1>experience we had. We just had it in the car

0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:10.600
<v Speaker 1>and while we were smuggling dogs and watermelons. Well coming

0:48:10.640 --> 0:48:15.040
<v Speaker 1>back your United States customs. So but yeah, each one

0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:17.920
<v Speaker 1>is a little different. Yeah, you know, uh, I think

0:48:18.000 --> 0:48:22.279
<v Speaker 1>when we'd come back to where was it Houston that

0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:25.799
<v Speaker 1>time when we flew back, that was a pain. Yeah,

0:48:26.000 --> 0:48:28.920
<v Speaker 1>that was the issue. We got held over and we

0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:32.920
<v Speaker 1>had no no, no, maybe you're was it out. We

0:48:33.040 --> 0:48:38.479
<v Speaker 1>went from Saskatoon to Calgary. Calgary had the United States

0:48:38.640 --> 0:48:42.000
<v Speaker 1>customs because we was flying from there to Houston. That

0:48:42.200 --> 0:48:44.120
<v Speaker 1>was the one I think was a pain. Yeah, we

0:48:44.280 --> 0:48:46.800
<v Speaker 1>got what we got held We got held over that, James,

0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:49.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember. We got held over the time and

0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:53.719
<v Speaker 1>we had to find some place to keep Yeah. Oh

0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:58.160
<v Speaker 1>that's right. We had our hides and freezers. Yeah, but

0:48:59.040 --> 0:49:05.240
<v Speaker 1>pretending to hide, we always stopped by Walmart, got toped,

0:49:06.080 --> 0:49:10.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, Uh, hides were frozen. So that's you want

0:49:10.480 --> 0:49:12.719
<v Speaker 1>to talk to your outfitter and say, is there going

0:49:12.760 --> 0:49:16.799
<v Speaker 1>to be a freezer in camp? Yea in them are

0:49:16.840 --> 0:49:19.239
<v Speaker 1>gonna say yes. The only time I've not had a

0:49:19.320 --> 0:49:21.920
<v Speaker 1>freezer in camp was when I was doing like a

0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:25.000
<v Speaker 1>back country hunt in British Columbia, Canada. In the outfitter,

0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:28.560
<v Speaker 1>he didn't freeze hides. He fleshed and as salted them.

0:49:28.960 --> 0:49:34.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, just straight up fresh. We gotta we gotta dog. No,

0:49:34.920 --> 0:49:37.359
<v Speaker 1>that's a little uh, that's a little scooter. I got

0:49:37.480 --> 0:49:40.279
<v Speaker 1>a four month though pup that just came flying. Was like,

0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:48.239
<v Speaker 1>um here he comes back. He must be running a

0:49:48.280 --> 0:49:58.680
<v Speaker 1>cotton tail. Um. Yeah. So it's ideal if you flesh

0:49:58.760 --> 0:50:01.600
<v Speaker 1>it and salted, because it that need refrigeration. You just

0:50:01.800 --> 0:50:05.479
<v Speaker 1>roll it up, you know, usually put in a trash bagging.

0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:08.759
<v Speaker 1>That's not ideal. It could moisture could get into it.

0:50:09.200 --> 0:50:13.719
<v Speaker 1>But most times what we've done is just skin the

0:50:13.800 --> 0:50:18.720
<v Speaker 1>bear left, the paws left the skull in it froze

0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:20.920
<v Speaker 1>the hide solid. So if you kill the bear on

0:50:21.040 --> 0:50:23.360
<v Speaker 1>the third day of a five day hunt, you know

0:50:23.440 --> 0:50:27.480
<v Speaker 1>he's got two days in the freezer. Um, and you

0:50:27.560 --> 0:50:32.000
<v Speaker 1>can bring that hide home frozen in a tote or

0:50:32.040 --> 0:50:35.040
<v Speaker 1>in a nice chest and it will stay frozen for

0:50:35.200 --> 0:50:38.520
<v Speaker 1>probably three days. So that was something I didn't know.

0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:43.160
<v Speaker 1>We packed dirty clothes around it just for extra or

0:50:43.480 --> 0:50:46.720
<v Speaker 1>whatever you can find for insulation inside of this tote

0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:52.040
<v Speaker 1>duct tape. The tote a good sized bear, skull, hide, fat,

0:50:52.200 --> 0:50:55.440
<v Speaker 1>everything on it is gonna weigh about fifty pounds, so

0:50:55.640 --> 0:51:00.600
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna pay fifty pound excess baggage. Fore you're gonna

0:51:00.600 --> 0:51:04.480
<v Speaker 1>send it home marker and write all your information down

0:51:04.960 --> 0:51:10.239
<v Speaker 1>on that total YEP YEP, name, phone number, address, and

0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:14.440
<v Speaker 1>essentially you'll have three days before that thing is gonna

0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:18.239
<v Speaker 1>if it's frozen solid. So you're good because I mean

0:51:18.360 --> 0:51:20.880
<v Speaker 1>usually you get an airport, you're gonna be sleeping in

0:51:21.000 --> 0:51:27.640
<v Speaker 1>your bed within twelve hours, eighteen hours at most, Uh,

0:51:27.960 --> 0:51:33.400
<v Speaker 1>So you're totally fine. UM. Meat would be the exact

0:51:33.440 --> 0:51:35.919
<v Speaker 1>same way if you wanted, however much meat you wanted

0:51:35.960 --> 0:51:38.560
<v Speaker 1>to bring home, which a lot of Canadian outfitters will

0:51:39.000 --> 0:51:42.160
<v Speaker 1>take the meat and handle it for you. Okay, Um,

0:51:42.360 --> 0:51:45.480
<v Speaker 1>some places you aren't required to salvage meat, but you

0:51:45.560 --> 0:51:47.840
<v Speaker 1>could take as much of it home anywhere you wanted,

0:51:48.200 --> 0:51:52.680
<v Speaker 1>and you would just freeze it the same way, bring

0:51:52.760 --> 0:51:55.799
<v Speaker 1>it home, deal with it. So and it's just gonna

0:51:55.880 --> 0:51:58.640
<v Speaker 1>cost you. You know, if you Killabaria, it's gonna cost

0:51:58.680 --> 0:52:00.840
<v Speaker 1>you a little bit. If you're shipping like that, if

0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:03.279
<v Speaker 1>you're driving, you bring ice chest. That's what we've done.

0:52:04.040 --> 0:52:05.879
<v Speaker 1>Just brought big ice chest in the back of the truck,

0:52:06.560 --> 0:52:09.120
<v Speaker 1>frozen solid, put him in. Okay, here's the other scenario.

0:52:09.200 --> 0:52:11.239
<v Speaker 1>You killed barrel on the last day and you're leaving

0:52:11.280 --> 0:52:13.080
<v Speaker 1>the next morning. You don't have time to freeze it.

0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Most Canadian outfitters have a way to deal with hides,

0:52:17.760 --> 0:52:20.279
<v Speaker 1>so you could just leave it with the outfitter and

0:52:20.360 --> 0:52:22.400
<v Speaker 1>the outfitter will take it to a tax dermist that

0:52:22.480 --> 0:52:24.839
<v Speaker 1>he knows he'll take care of it, and you can

0:52:25.080 --> 0:52:27.440
<v Speaker 1>and he'll connect you with that tax dermist and you

0:52:27.520 --> 0:52:30.839
<v Speaker 1>can have the bear fleshed and salted and shipped back,

0:52:31.040 --> 0:52:33.280
<v Speaker 1>or you can have that text dermist tan the hide.

0:52:33.760 --> 0:52:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Do whatever you want, but when you do that, you

0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:38.040
<v Speaker 1>have to fill out a side he's permit and it's

0:52:38.080 --> 0:52:43.560
<v Speaker 1>more expensive. Okay, a yeah, it's if you bring the

0:52:43.640 --> 0:52:46.680
<v Speaker 1>hide back yourself, your tag acts as your side he's

0:52:46.719 --> 0:52:50.360
<v Speaker 1>permit in almost all the provinces. To explain to the

0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:54.000
<v Speaker 1>rookie now that that side's permit is to go along

0:52:54.120 --> 0:52:59.160
<v Speaker 1>with getting stuff back across the border. It's fishing wildlife service, right, Yeah,

0:53:00.280 --> 0:53:02.960
<v Speaker 1>it has to do with it's an acronym for something

0:53:03.080 --> 0:53:07.320
<v Speaker 1>side ease um. But yeah, so it's it's just not

0:53:07.440 --> 0:53:10.359
<v Speaker 1>a big deal. But if you so, you can leave

0:53:10.400 --> 0:53:12.879
<v Speaker 1>it with somebody, but you're probably gonna have to pay

0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:14.239
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more to get back because then you

0:53:14.320 --> 0:53:17.160
<v Speaker 1>have to have a I don't know, it just costs

0:53:17.200 --> 0:53:20.200
<v Speaker 1>more so the other steps that you have to go through.

0:53:21.160 --> 0:53:23.880
<v Speaker 1>But it's totally doable. So don't let that be a

0:53:24.080 --> 0:53:27.160
<v Speaker 1>limiting factor of going on spring bear hunt. Okay, question

0:53:27.280 --> 0:53:32.720
<v Speaker 1>number seven, Can you eat spring bear meat? Brent reeves

0:53:33.960 --> 0:53:37.440
<v Speaker 1>you why not? It's bear meat? Yeah, yeah, it tastes

0:53:37.440 --> 0:53:40.600
<v Speaker 1>the same all year long. Yeah. The only thing I've

0:53:40.680 --> 0:53:43.160
<v Speaker 1>heard actually people say that sometimes the spring meat can

0:53:43.200 --> 0:53:46.759
<v Speaker 1>taste better because it's not is greasy. Greasy is the

0:53:46.840 --> 0:53:50.759
<v Speaker 1>wrong word. Clay here slapping the face. I don't think

0:53:50.800 --> 0:53:54.200
<v Speaker 1>bear meats greazy. It's just it's leaner in the spring

0:53:54.280 --> 0:53:58.120
<v Speaker 1>because they've gone through this dinning period, their bodies used

0:53:58.160 --> 0:53:59.960
<v Speaker 1>up with all the fat. But I have not found

0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:04.120
<v Speaker 1>that really affect the meat, like there'll be less fat

0:54:05.120 --> 0:54:07.799
<v Speaker 1>on their button. You know, the bear store a lot

0:54:07.880 --> 0:54:11.000
<v Speaker 1>of fat outside of their body. I mean, you know,

0:54:11.080 --> 0:54:15.040
<v Speaker 1>like outside, not outside their body, trailers of fat. Well,

0:54:15.200 --> 0:54:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, but this this thing about what you just

0:54:17.080 --> 0:54:23.440
<v Speaker 1>said about them being a leaner, how fat were those bears?

0:54:23.920 --> 0:54:26.120
<v Speaker 1>The two bears, remember the two the bear that came

0:54:26.160 --> 0:54:28.000
<v Speaker 1>in on top of us, the bear that you referenced

0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:29.600
<v Speaker 1>while to go to the big board, that the that

0:54:29.760 --> 0:54:32.360
<v Speaker 1>stal jumped him. When we skin those bears next to

0:54:32.480 --> 0:54:35.680
<v Speaker 1>that lake, how do you remember how fat those bears were,

0:54:36.080 --> 0:54:38.840
<v Speaker 1>How thick the fat was on I mean, that was

0:54:39.840 --> 0:54:42.080
<v Speaker 1>it's just spring bears not supposed to have much fatter.

0:54:42.520 --> 0:54:44.919
<v Speaker 1>He had. They had playing fat. They were rolling fat.

0:54:44.960 --> 0:54:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean they were as fat as almost as fat

0:54:47.239 --> 0:54:52.640
<v Speaker 1>as something those I don't know, I don't know. It

0:54:52.760 --> 0:54:54.680
<v Speaker 1>must have been because they can come out of the

0:54:55.719 --> 0:54:59.040
<v Speaker 1>the den super lean when you're just when you're skinning one,

0:54:59.680 --> 0:55:03.160
<v Speaker 1>there's skin touching meat, you know, and when it's when

0:55:03.239 --> 0:55:06.439
<v Speaker 1>it's good, it's skin touching a big layer of fat,

0:55:06.640 --> 0:55:08.040
<v Speaker 1>and then you get to the meat. But I mean

0:55:08.080 --> 0:55:10.000
<v Speaker 1>there was, I mean there was. I mean you could

0:55:10.040 --> 0:55:13.759
<v Speaker 1>tell the frames those bears that y'all killed up there,

0:55:13.880 --> 0:55:18.320
<v Speaker 1>the frames, they would have carried another seventy pounds probably

0:55:19.360 --> 0:55:24.719
<v Speaker 1>of weight on them absolutely in the fall. So but still, yeah,

0:55:24.880 --> 0:55:27.960
<v Speaker 1>thatn't necessarily they're not gonna come out looking like, you know,

0:55:28.040 --> 0:55:34.879
<v Speaker 1>a hostage man. We've been eating more and more bear meat.

0:55:34.880 --> 0:55:37.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean we've always eaten bear meat, but since the

0:55:37.200 --> 0:55:41.239
<v Speaker 1>kids have started killing bears every fall, multiple bears, it

0:55:41.360 --> 0:55:44.040
<v Speaker 1>just seems like we're eating more and more bear beat man.

0:55:45.000 --> 0:55:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Ground bear meat has become the staple for tacos, chili,

0:55:52.320 --> 0:55:55.759
<v Speaker 1>any kind of ground meat stuff. I mean, Misty when

0:55:55.800 --> 0:55:58.080
<v Speaker 1>I cook deer chili, now, Misty is like, oh it's

0:55:58.120 --> 0:56:02.600
<v Speaker 1>dear chili. Serious. And if you've heard other stuff on

0:56:02.680 --> 0:56:05.640
<v Speaker 1>my podcast, my wife is not a big hunter, very

0:56:05.640 --> 0:56:08.800
<v Speaker 1>supportive and stuff, but I mean she's not. I have

0:56:08.920 --> 0:56:10.719
<v Speaker 1>a reason to want to eat bear meat and like it.

0:56:10.920 --> 0:56:12.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, I got a little bit best

0:56:12.880 --> 0:56:14.799
<v Speaker 1>in this, So I'm like, man, it's the best step.

0:56:15.960 --> 0:56:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Misty's like totally unbiased. She ain't gonna eat if she

0:56:18.719 --> 0:56:25.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't like it. She loves bear meat for especially for chili,

0:56:25.640 --> 0:56:29.680
<v Speaker 1>for tacos, for you know, anything that is just using

0:56:29.719 --> 0:56:32.560
<v Speaker 1>ground meat. You know when when when I kill one

0:56:32.840 --> 0:56:36.080
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's gone. It doesn't last. Now I can

0:56:36.120 --> 0:56:38.440
<v Speaker 1>go from we eat a lot of dear meat, but

0:56:38.560 --> 0:56:41.600
<v Speaker 1>I can go from season to season and like, oh man,

0:56:41.680 --> 0:56:43.839
<v Speaker 1>there's some I got some dear meat left in here.

0:56:44.480 --> 0:56:47.400
<v Speaker 1>The bear meat is gone. Yeah, because I got My

0:56:47.560 --> 0:56:50.720
<v Speaker 1>seven year old daughter would rather eat a bear steak

0:56:50.760 --> 0:56:52.960
<v Speaker 1>than she had a beef steak. But a lot we

0:56:53.080 --> 0:56:56.640
<v Speaker 1>do a lot with the hamburger and chili and burgers

0:56:56.719 --> 0:56:59.759
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. And my wife is very she's

0:57:00.440 --> 0:57:03.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, she isn't She is a city mouse if

0:57:03.600 --> 0:57:06.319
<v Speaker 1>there ever was one, and she likes it. So yeah,

0:57:07.040 --> 0:57:12.520
<v Speaker 1>it's it's good stuff. Man, um question number twelve, Uh,

0:57:12.719 --> 0:57:19.040
<v Speaker 1>do spring bear hides get rubbed out? I'm sure certain bears.

0:57:19.200 --> 0:57:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Each one's a little different personally. I've never seen one.

0:57:22.200 --> 0:57:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how many bears we've seen up there,

0:57:24.120 --> 0:57:29.800
<v Speaker 1>but a lot they're there you know, I remember talking

0:57:29.880 --> 0:57:32.480
<v Speaker 1>about it when on the way up there, we're like,

0:57:32.600 --> 0:57:36.680
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to, you know, watch for rubbed down bear.

0:57:37.040 --> 0:57:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Just rubbed out the bear is over real good. It

0:57:40.160 --> 0:57:43.200
<v Speaker 1>rubbed out bear means that so bears have these long

0:57:43.360 --> 0:57:47.280
<v Speaker 1>guard hairs which are like up to three four inches long,

0:57:47.400 --> 0:57:50.160
<v Speaker 1>probably not four, but up to three. And then they

0:57:50.240 --> 0:57:53.840
<v Speaker 1>have this under fur which is like almost like the down,

0:57:54.120 --> 0:58:00.320
<v Speaker 1>really fine finer fur, insulating fur. And uh, what they'll

0:58:00.360 --> 0:58:02.960
<v Speaker 1>do in the spring, they do molt. They shed their

0:58:03.320 --> 0:58:05.400
<v Speaker 1>their fur. From the time they come out of the

0:58:05.480 --> 0:58:07.120
<v Speaker 1>den to the time they go back in, they grow

0:58:07.280 --> 0:58:10.000
<v Speaker 1>basically a new coat. They shed those guard hairs, and

0:58:10.080 --> 0:58:12.680
<v Speaker 1>so they'll get on trees and rub their butts and rug.

0:58:13.120 --> 0:58:15.720
<v Speaker 1>We've seen and filmed a ton of them doing that.

0:58:16.800 --> 0:58:19.400
<v Speaker 1>But you know they'd get off the tree and walk

0:58:19.440 --> 0:58:24.080
<v Speaker 1>away and they wouldn't have a spot on them like that. Yeah,

0:58:24.360 --> 0:58:28.200
<v Speaker 1>you know we've seen, uh that little blond female that

0:58:28.400 --> 0:58:32.440
<v Speaker 1>was that that little board was chasing chasing around that

0:58:32.600 --> 0:58:36.280
<v Speaker 1>day and she was molten or whatever, but she wouldn't

0:58:36.520 --> 0:58:40.280
<v Speaker 1>or ride wouldn't the inn or bear in any spot. Yeah,

0:58:41.360 --> 0:58:44.560
<v Speaker 1>So what you said rhyme before we started and it's

0:58:44.640 --> 0:58:46.280
<v Speaker 1>what I say too, is it just seems to be

0:58:46.320 --> 0:58:50.240
<v Speaker 1>a non issue. Yeah, I mean, you know, certain bears,

0:58:50.320 --> 0:58:54.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, But it also depends if you're looking, say,

0:58:54.200 --> 0:58:58.080
<v Speaker 1>if you've got a trophy twenty one inch bear come

0:58:58.120 --> 0:59:01.000
<v Speaker 1>in and rubbed a little bit, I'm shooting that, Barry,

0:59:01.760 --> 0:59:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly. You know, unless you're oneting the guy that's

0:59:04.320 --> 0:59:07.160
<v Speaker 1>wanting something to a rugged to put on the wall,

0:59:08.080 --> 0:59:12.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, check it out. But and more unlikely you're

0:59:12.120 --> 0:59:15.919
<v Speaker 1>gonna notice it right off the bat. But personally, I've

0:59:15.960 --> 0:59:18.880
<v Speaker 1>never seen one rubbed out and looked terrible there there.

0:59:19.800 --> 0:59:23.280
<v Speaker 1>I just haven't run across. So you know, the odd time,

0:59:23.680 --> 0:59:26.280
<v Speaker 1>and it's the odd time you'll see a bear that

0:59:26.520 --> 0:59:28.800
<v Speaker 1>just is straight up rubbed, and you'll be like that

0:59:28.880 --> 0:59:31.080
<v Speaker 1>bears rubbed, Brent. And I saw a bear that had mange,

0:59:31.840 --> 0:59:34.360
<v Speaker 1>and I mean it's the whole back half of its

0:59:34.640 --> 0:59:38.800
<v Speaker 1>body was bear. And I mean you're obviously I'm not

0:59:38.880 --> 0:59:42.919
<v Speaker 1>gonna shoot that bear. It was bear naked. It still

0:59:43.000 --> 0:59:47.120
<v Speaker 1>gives me bad dreams thinking about it. Um. Now, and

0:59:47.240 --> 0:59:51.440
<v Speaker 1>that bear wasn't rubbed, I mean there was something wrong, yeah, um,

0:59:52.120 --> 0:59:54.560
<v Speaker 1>but I have seen him. I put a picture action

0:59:54.640 --> 0:59:57.400
<v Speaker 1>the Marchepile issue of Barony magazine of a rubbed bear

0:59:57.520 --> 1:00:00.440
<v Speaker 1>that I took a photo of myself, and it was

1:00:00.480 --> 1:00:02.479
<v Speaker 1>just so obvious. I mean, it just it just looked

1:00:02.480 --> 1:00:05.320
<v Speaker 1>like a mangy dog. And there wasn't anything wrong with

1:00:05.400 --> 1:00:08.000
<v Speaker 1>this bear. Its whole body was covered in hair, but

1:00:08.120 --> 1:00:10.240
<v Speaker 1>it was just you could just tell us. And there

1:00:10.320 --> 1:00:14.600
<v Speaker 1>may be certain regions where that's more common versus you know,

1:00:14.720 --> 1:00:18.880
<v Speaker 1>other places, and that's what I have said. But I've

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<v Speaker 1>hunted all over Canada and it's never seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>a big issue anywhere. Yeah, I mean, because I thought

1:00:24.840 --> 1:00:26.440
<v Speaker 1>the same thing. I thought, well, probably maybe just the

1:00:26.480 --> 1:00:30.360
<v Speaker 1>places we've gone have have not had many rub bears.

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<v Speaker 1>But well, last last spring we were in uh, where

1:00:35.000 --> 1:00:39.360
<v Speaker 1>were we, British Columbia, and those bears coming into camp.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just Christine And and now that was mid May, though,

1:00:44.800 --> 1:00:48.400
<v Speaker 1>and you would expect that in mid May when the

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<v Speaker 1>main data point that I'm using is this late June

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<v Speaker 1>hunting that we're that we're hunting at Saskatchewan. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just not that big of an issue. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a it's not a reason to not go,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not Okay, costs. So people are like, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the spring bearing cost? What are you looking for? What province,

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<v Speaker 1>what state you want to go to. I mean it

1:01:14.440 --> 1:01:20.160
<v Speaker 1>ranges from pretty reasonable to pretty high versus do it

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<v Speaker 1>yourself or a inclusive watch hunt. So it's what you

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<v Speaker 1>want to experience and what you want to pay for.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the deal. You can hunt. There's places in Quebec

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<v Speaker 1>that for a thousand dollars you can go on a

1:01:37.560 --> 1:01:41.680
<v Speaker 1>six day spring bear hunt, stay in a nice camp,

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<v Speaker 1>cook your own food, outfitter, show you where the bear

1:01:46.560 --> 1:01:50.000
<v Speaker 1>baits are. And I'm serious. There there are places we

1:01:50.040 --> 1:01:54.720
<v Speaker 1>can go for a thousand dollars, especially in Quebec, and

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<v Speaker 1>hunt and guys kill bears and guys kill some good bears.

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<v Speaker 1>Some places aren't some places like two. Well, let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the let's talk about the prices and the different provinces. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So Quebec, Quebec would be known for its fishing, it's

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<v Speaker 1>beauty and it's affordability. A lot of fishing outfitters that

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<v Speaker 1>are also bear outfitters in Quebec. It's like a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good place to go if you're looking for a

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<v Speaker 1>bear hunt. Okay, it's a one bear province. Let's move

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<v Speaker 1>over to Ontario. Ontario has a we're coming well, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess we we got the other ones. Newfoundland, let's go

1:02:39.320 --> 1:02:43.080
<v Speaker 1>back east. Newfoundland is a two bear province. New Brunswick

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<v Speaker 1>is the two bear province. Um, those hunts in New

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<v Speaker 1>Brunswick and Newfoundland are gonna be from two thousand to

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand dollars, two thousand to thirty dollars most of

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<v Speaker 1>them for a good hunt. Okay, that's the price range

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<v Speaker 1>for week pretty much for a week fully guided hunt,

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<v Speaker 1>you can and for that in that range in those places.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of those places are gonna be fully guided like

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<v Speaker 1>lodge type hunts. You're gonna be staying with the lives suppost,

1:03:11.400 --> 1:03:13.959
<v Speaker 1>gonna be cooking your dinner, and you're gonna you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>pay between twenty and thirty five dollars in those provinces,

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<v Speaker 1>if I could put it that way. Ontario is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be similar. Ontario has some economical hunts. The Ontario Spring Hunt,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is on its last year before they re

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<v Speaker 1>evaluated again to decide if they're going to renew it.

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<v Speaker 1>Ontario didn't have a spring hunt for a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>so Ontario is kind of on the fence. I think

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<v Speaker 1>is the year they decide if they're going to renew

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<v Speaker 1>their hunt. So it's it's a political deal. It's a

1:03:40.840 --> 1:03:44.200
<v Speaker 1>bad deal. But Ontario hunts are usually in the two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollar range. Two thousand We went in August. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we follow hunted Ontario. Yeah, and the berries were full, warm,

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<v Speaker 1>full and ripe yes in late August. But we ended

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<v Speaker 1>up having a heck of a hunt for a cheap,

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<v Speaker 1>for cheap hu hunt um Manitoba in Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna be kind of the prime in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>the cost is going to be more. But that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of your prime time places for spring bear hunting if

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<v Speaker 1>we're just being honest. Um, costs are gonna be between

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<v Speaker 1>and and these are gonna be like your uh for hope,

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<v Speaker 1>I do undefend some other outfitters and other places, but

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<v Speaker 1>these are your world class beta black bear hunts are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be in these places, Trophy and there's all

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<v Speaker 1>kind of different outfitters. There's out you know, you need

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<v Speaker 1>to you need to talk to multiple outfitters and ask

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<v Speaker 1>them what kind of stuff they offer. Uh. Ryan just

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<v Speaker 1>talked about his buddy that hunted Alberta a few years

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<v Speaker 1>ago at a great hunt, killed two monster bears, but

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<v Speaker 1>set in an outfitters house for six days, board out

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<v Speaker 1>of his mind to tell time to go hunt, killed

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<v Speaker 1>two awesome bears, but didn't enjoy it because he just

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<v Speaker 1>felt like it was he just didn't that much to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, We got to each their own, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh for us where I think we're more adventure bound,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, waking up, eat breakfast, that's what we call Brent. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my middle name. Maybe getting to go fish anytime you want,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and different things. That was nice as far

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<v Speaker 1>as I wanted to sit and indoors till three or

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<v Speaker 1>four o'clock. Not my thing, but if it's world class

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<v Speaker 1>bear hunting, it may be worth it. So yeah. But yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what every outfitter is gonna offer. Something different,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, in places we're going in Saskatchewan or

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, staying in wall tense and like this

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<v Speaker 1>remote camp, riding in boats. It's a little bit tougher.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little bit more of an adventure based kind

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<v Speaker 1>of deal. Some people may not want that. Some people

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<v Speaker 1>may want to stay in the house and have to

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<v Speaker 1>have somebody cooking their meals every day, and and that's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been on hunts like that a ton of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to just talk to people and see what

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<v Speaker 1>they see, what they do. I like to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>somebody three or four times even, and that tests their

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<v Speaker 1>level of patients and you will. The way I the

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<v Speaker 1>way I think about it when I talked to somebody

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<v Speaker 1>is you you really have to be discerned about that outfitter.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I'm trying to understand is they are they honest?

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<v Speaker 1>And are they gonna do what they say they're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this a person that I would feel comfortable sending

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<v Speaker 1>my best friend and his daughter to hunt with based

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<v Speaker 1>upon this phone conversation, And if I still have questions

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<v Speaker 1>about that, then I'm not gonna go hunt with him.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. I mean, you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>you get a good feel for somebody on the phone

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<v Speaker 1>to with multiple conversations, and the people legitimate folks like that,

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<v Speaker 1>they realize that they are working for you. I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're paying their light bill. Yeah, So that's a

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<v Speaker 1>that's a big factor in me. Haven't been in the

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<v Speaker 1>outfitting bitches myself somewhat for for ducks. Yeah, people want

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<v Speaker 1>to know where their money is going, and if you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be honest about it, you want to tell

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<v Speaker 1>them where it's going. You know, no surprises on that

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<v Speaker 1>in Yeah. Well there's all different kind of outfitters. There's

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<v Speaker 1>good ones and bad ones. Should just are Um it's

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<v Speaker 1>the scatch. So Manitoban, Saskatchewan or one bear provinces um.

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<v Speaker 1>Alberta is a two bear province, which Alberta is hard

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<v Speaker 1>to beat. You can get you know, the prices are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be from probably three thousand to five thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot of camps you go in and you're

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<v Speaker 1>hunting two bears in a week. Some some outfitters would

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<v Speaker 1>charge a trophy fielding the second bear. UM. But Alberta

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<v Speaker 1>is an awesome place. I've been on a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>really good hunts in Alberta. UM. So those are the

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<v Speaker 1>three that I would say for baited spring hunts are

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<v Speaker 1>the el primo Canadian baited spring bear hunts. British Columbia

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<v Speaker 1>can't huntover bait, but they are el primo for Canadian

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<v Speaker 1>spot and stock hunting, and they're known for big bears.

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<v Speaker 1>They're known for good camps. They're known for like wall

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<v Speaker 1>tent type camps. Uh in the mountains. Lot outfitters do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I've hunted British Columbia. I think three three times and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's I'll go back. It's a ton of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It's beautiful, man, holy place, big mountains, wolves and grizzly bears.

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<v Speaker 1>Not to change your subject is the bugs is bad.

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<v Speaker 1>They're in spring as versus other provinces. Did we ever

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<v Speaker 1>even think about bugs in British Columbia last year? No,

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<v Speaker 1>we were seeing grizzly tracks, That's what I was thinking about. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>We we never even broke out our thermselves. Is that right?

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy? Yeah, but it was a spot in stock hunts.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're moving around a lot. Yeah. But now, bugs

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<v Speaker 1>weren't bad there even when we set up, Like when

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<v Speaker 1>Gary and I set up and filmed you when you

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<v Speaker 1>went up, try to put the stock on that or

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<v Speaker 1>did put the stock on that black bear? Across that

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<v Speaker 1>field where we were at that we didn't have bug

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<v Speaker 1>problems at all. Yeah, that's how they do. But definitely

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<v Speaker 1>to think about wherever you're traveling is bugs. Yeah, logistics

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<v Speaker 1>on that like uh, flying you know you can't fly

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<v Speaker 1>with the beautane cart. Yeah, that's a good that's a

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<v Speaker 1>good topic to bring. Ontario was if you remember, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, yeah, but Saskatchewan. I'd rather had grizzly bears

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<v Speaker 1>in our camp than the excute as we had. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>bugsuits deterrent. The way that I described it is that

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<v Speaker 1>some people say I'm not gonna spring bear it because

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<v Speaker 1>of the bugs to either non issue if you have

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<v Speaker 1>thermo cells, and they truly are, and when you're hunting

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<v Speaker 1>click on thermocells. I've heard people be like, well, what

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<v Speaker 1>about the smell? And I when they do that, I say,

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<v Speaker 1>come here a little closer, and I slap him in

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<v Speaker 1>the face. At the same time I'm picking him in

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<v Speaker 1>the shin, because if that bear smells your thermo cell

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<v Speaker 1>and runs away, he is also smelling a big human

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<v Speaker 1>and running away. So I'm not worried about the scent

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<v Speaker 1>of a thermocell on a bear bait. In Canada, we

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<v Speaker 1>run two at a time, Like when I'm hunting me

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<v Speaker 1>and Brent, he'll have one setting back by him and

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<v Speaker 1>I have one right here, and it's just a non issue. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're skinning, you better bring that thermocell everywhere you

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<v Speaker 1>go though, because if you trail that bear and you

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<v Speaker 1>start skinning that bear out there, they'll carry you away.

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<v Speaker 1>But you cook on your thermo cell and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>non issue. And I've always I found out that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if the it's just like here, if the wind gets

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<v Speaker 1>up big enough that it's blowing your thermosill away, it's

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<v Speaker 1>blowing the skeeters away to that. Yeah, yeah, Um. What

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<v Speaker 1>we've done in the past to have been mailed either

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<v Speaker 1>mailed all our thermal sale stuff to the outfitter before

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<v Speaker 1>the hunt. What you can do, or you buy it

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<v Speaker 1>once you get into Canada, like if you fly into

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<v Speaker 1>Winnipeg or Saskatoon or somewhere in Canada, usually you can

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<v Speaker 1>go buy it. Uh. Here's the truth too, is that

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<v Speaker 1>I've accidentally packed it in my luggage and never had

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<v Speaker 1>any problem. You the watermelons, cartridges and the mountains are

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<v Speaker 1>probably come down here. The days are gonna come down here. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>the Canadian Mounted Police, wouldn't it be funny if we

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<v Speaker 1>saw him trotting up the driveway on their horses, say,

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<v Speaker 1>we heard your podcast, We heard you smuggled in watermelons

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<v Speaker 1>and cartridges, bututane cartridges. Now it was an accident, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be like get the Canada and be like dang.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you can carry him in if you're driving,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a problem. They're not illegal, you just can't

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<v Speaker 1>put them on airplane. Yeah. So, um, and what I

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<v Speaker 1>just said was actually a lot that never happened. I

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<v Speaker 1>have never smuggled watermelon or thermal cells into Canada. Just

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<v Speaker 1>for the record, that was all a joke. Um, but really, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>Question number twenty, Question number twenty. No, we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the provinces and that that kind of dissects just

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<v Speaker 1>in short, the Canadian provinces and kind of how they operate. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You can hound hunt in British Columbia in the spring

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<v Speaker 1>for bear if you want to. None of the others

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<v Speaker 1>provinces are are bear hunting with hounds. Um, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think any of them. Actually, well no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you can you can you can hunt. You can hunt

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<v Speaker 1>in the spring in in Ontario with hounds. Does it

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<v Speaker 1>have to be with an outfit or can as? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>any US person hunting in candidate it's either family. There

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<v Speaker 1>is a a for direct family to hunt Canada without

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<v Speaker 1>an outfitter, like if your dad lived in Canada, you could.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember what they call it. It's been so long. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a way for family to hunt Canada. But otherwise,

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<v Speaker 1>you in Ontario, you can. I've never heard anybody in

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<v Speaker 1>British Columbia doing that, but I'm pretty sure you can. Yeah. So, man, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a pretty fairly comprehensive conversation we've had here boys

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<v Speaker 1>about spring bear hunt. Can y'all think of any other

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the thing that I'm trying to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>people about, its limiting factors, and frequently ask questions, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't want to go to Canada because of

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<v Speaker 1>the bugs. I don't want to go to Canada because

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<v Speaker 1>they can't bring back the meat. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>go to Canada because I'm a sissy. What Your sissiness

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<v Speaker 1>is your problem, and you're gonna have to take personal

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<v Speaker 1>responsibility for it, right brand exactly, or I will lay

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<v Speaker 1>the blame on you. What about weapons? Like, what's legal? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>spring bear hunting in Canada? Okay? Are all three types? Shotguns, rifles,

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<v Speaker 1>and archery? I would assume, Okay, you caught me off guard.

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<v Speaker 1>Archery and firearms could be legal everywhere, you know, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>so if you're going to spring bear hunt, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like you're just going on a spring bow hunt. Like

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<v Speaker 1>you could carry any of the mainstream cartridges, muzzleloaders, uh, shotguns,

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that. The only thing I don't know a

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<v Speaker 1>hund percent about is crossbows. I believe there are a

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<v Speaker 1>few provinces that don't allow crossbows and something else to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you. Yeah, but most of them do, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, of them allow crossbows, regular archery, traditional archery, muzzloaders, shotguns, rifles.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing that you can't do, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>um except handguns. You cannot bring handguns in Canada. Um

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<v Speaker 1>let me get listen, No, listen to this, listen to this.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year I bought Shephard Nucom one of these little

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<v Speaker 1>pistol BB guns on a trip and uh he, for

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<v Speaker 1>whatever reason, when we left can here, that gun was

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<v Speaker 1>in my truck, that pistol BB gun. Last year. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember when it was. Well, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a forty dollar be begun and we stayed the

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<v Speaker 1>night in North Dakota. Okay, there's probably they are probably

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<v Speaker 1>like one of those unsolved mystery shows about this about

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<v Speaker 1>someone that saw me dispose of a handgun in a

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<v Speaker 1>trash can at a roadside hotel in North Dakota, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I did. We got to North Dakota and

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<v Speaker 1>I found that pistol and I didn't It probably was

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<v Speaker 1>legal to bring a BB gun, but I just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want the hassle off. Maurice was there. Uh, same with

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<v Speaker 1>a Mota. I remember like pulling up to this trash can,

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<v Speaker 1>like looking around. Stefanboy was looking and putting that BB

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<v Speaker 1>gun in that. In that tonight on Unsolved Mysteries, somebody

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<v Speaker 1>was probably up in like the tenth floor videoing like sun.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, sweetie, that guy just threw a handgun in

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<v Speaker 1>the trash can, peeled out. Duke's a hazard did out

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<v Speaker 1>of the parking lot. Okay, sorry, I guess, uh so

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<v Speaker 1>anything else I don't guess. Okay, weather weather from here,

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<v Speaker 1>it's cold up there. What would you how would you

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<v Speaker 1>describe it? Uh? Well, you can't just grab Arkansas because

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<v Speaker 1>I've week before last I ran my air conditioning one

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<v Speaker 1>day in the heat the next. So but we um

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<v Speaker 1>the first year we went up there, we built to

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<v Speaker 1>fire every night. Was in May. In late June, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think we ever. Uh. I think I had a

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<v Speaker 1>fire most nights. There was. Some of the days though,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like that day the horse fly. We come

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<v Speaker 1>out and we get warm. It's eighties or nineties or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. I would say, I tell people to

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<v Speaker 1>be prepared from for thirty to seventy degree weather into eighty.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's a good average. So bring your jacket,

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<v Speaker 1>bring your coat, bring your rain gear everywhere you go,

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<v Speaker 1>but be prepared to for it to maybe be warm.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, rain gear for sure, Bring your rain gear

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere you go in in anywhere in Canada in the spring,

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<v Speaker 1>you can leave camp and it be a bright, sunny,

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful day and about the time you get to the

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<v Speaker 1>bear Bait it may just come a gully washer out

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<v Speaker 1>of nowhere. Yeah. I remember the first day we got there.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked the outfitter. He said, all right, y'all, when

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<v Speaker 1>y'all get your stuff together, said I need to take

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<v Speaker 1>my rain done in think my raincoat with me or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, Dude, this is Canada. You didn't take it

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<v Speaker 1>with you where you go unless you want to get wet.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, though, I've never been just totally rained

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<v Speaker 1>out in a week of Canadian hunting. When I first

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<v Speaker 1>started hunting in Canada, I thought you might get a

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<v Speaker 1>week where it just rain NonStop for six days. I

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<v Speaker 1>have never experienced that. That that day or yeah, a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of fact, it rained that day was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the first day. We said, like forty five minutes and

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<v Speaker 1>then it was gone. Remember the thunderstorm coming back through

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<v Speaker 1>Compulsion Bay. I wasn't there. You guys were. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>went to the bank, got out of the boat. It

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<v Speaker 1>was thunder lightning. It was bad. Yeah, were you okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Me and Brent we're back. Yeah, y'all were hunting by

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<v Speaker 1>yourself or we weren't there. Our guide was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Native Josh, and you know he's pretty rugged as they come,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's like, guys, we're gonna make a pit stop.

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<v Speaker 1>Went to the bank. Yeah, yeah, yep. Well, hey, excellent,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you guys. Time and um, what do we say, Brent?

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<v Speaker 1>Keep the wild places wild? That's where the bears did

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<v Speaker 1>say it again a little tighter compacted with Mark. I

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<v Speaker 1>was sitting around tea and round up and I'll take it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna help me out right, keep the wild places wild,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's where the bears lived in the springtime