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Speaker 1: butterscotch concentrate form. You use that stuff a ton, don't

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Speaker 1: you say that the gold Rush mixed with friar grease

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Speaker 1: That's what you're saying. Good stuff. And the gold dust

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Speaker 1: and your wife met gentlemen, Welcome to the Bear Honey

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Speaker 1: Magazine Global Headquarters. Good morning, Brent Reeves. Good morning, sir.

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Speaker 1: Here we are again. You're reporting in from Central Arkansas.

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Speaker 1: Central Arkansas. It's a two hour and fifty eight minute

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Speaker 1: it is. Did you ride your mule up here? I

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Speaker 1: did not know Flashy mete for me yet. Mr Ryan Grab,

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Speaker 1: good morning, Good morning. You got me off the lake

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Speaker 1: and got me to come up the mountain. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: Ryan's got a freezer full of croppy but uh so

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Speaker 1: he's been crappie fishing, right. I introduced you last time

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Speaker 1: Ryan's hunted with me all over Canada and and we've

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Speaker 1: So you're hunting up north, and so what you're biologically,

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Speaker 1: and it was just an afterthought. I thought, you know,

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00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: I got this, why not bring it? I've had it

429
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: sitting at home for years and didn't have it handy.

430
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: It was buried in my backpack. So as she kept

431
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: getting closer, Yeah, I'm in the ground blind. So after

432
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: seeing her do what she did to the bear I'd killed,

433
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: it's like not to pull this out. And I go

434
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: to talking to her and try to get her run off,

435
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: and she would not. And finally when she got within

436
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,239
Speaker 1: four yards probably I thought I want to let her

437
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: up and see what happens, and it scared her off.

438
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: It works, It worked. Yeah, that was a pretty touchy situation. Um, well,

439
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty good rundown of wind to

440
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: hunt in the pros and cons of early hunh late hunting.

441
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 1: Uh do you all think we've covered it? Y'all have

442
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: any other comments on wind to hunt or questions? Well,

443
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: you're probably going to see more bears, you think, probably

444
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: in that June period when after Yeah, the the mid

445
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: to late June, you're gonna see more. Okay, now here's

446
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: somebody for somebody asking. Here, here's the other thing that

447
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 1: I have not personally seen this because my late June

448
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: hunting has produced a lot of bear shidings. But they say,

449
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: and this makes sense, as the as the spring progresses

450
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: and more natural food comes available, bears will spread out

451
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: and be harder to find, just like in white tail hunting.

452
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: If food is everywhere, they're hard to find, they don't respond.

453
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: Debate as well. That being said in late in Saskatchewan,

454
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: way up north like we were, that doesn't seem to

455
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: be an issue. Yeah, where's more conifers and not any egg?

456
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no berries out, no kind of masked hard

457
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: or soft. Yeah yeah. But I think in a lot

458
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: of places late June would be tougher for bears responding

459
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,719
Speaker 1: because grass is growing up, insects are starting to pop out.

460
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: You know, they're just in a bare prefers natural food

461
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: overbait almost all the time. I think if I was

462
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: going to go for the first time, anybody was one

463
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: of the recommendation, I would say, you know, first of June,

464
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: first week of June would be prime time. Yep, to

465
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: get both, You'll get you both occurrences. That's right, exactly. Okay.

466
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: Number two, Where to hunt? Where to hunt? Okay. In

467
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: the United States, there are nine states at least that's

468
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: that's what I have figured. Nine states that offer spring

469
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: bear hunting here. They are Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Oregon, Washington, Utah, Arizona, Alaska,

470
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: and certain parts of Maine that are in side of

471
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: these tribal lands. So I had to put Maine in

472
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: there because you can spring bear hunt in Maine on tribals.

473
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: Is that the only Eastern state that has spring hunt.

474
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: Maine used to have a spring bear hunt like statewide

475
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: and they shut it down. Uh was that from aunt?

476
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: Absolutely anti hunting, nothing, no biological but bear. Maine has

477
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: the largest bear population of any state in the for

478
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: sure in the eastern US. California and some of those

479
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: bigger states might potentially have more, but Maine has an

480
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: estimated bear population of thirty thousand bears. I mean, bears

481
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: are like just massively increasing. They usually have they usually

482
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: kill about three thousand bears a year. Maine. Absolutely anti

483
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: hunting sentiment that shut down the spring bear hunt. But

484
00:30:54,600 --> 00:31:00,239
Speaker 1: there's some big Native American tribal lands in Maine. One

485
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: of these pennob Scott, and we have multiple outfitters in

486
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: Barony magazine that guy on penob Scott. Um. So let's

487
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: let's just briefly go through these. Idaho is like the

488
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: epicenter of bear hunting in the Western US. Idaho has

489
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: the most liberal seasons, has lots of bears, lots of

490
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: public land, you can use hounds, you can use bait,

491
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: or you can spot and stock. Idaho is like, uh,

492
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: in the movie Lord of the Rings, like, what was

493
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: the elvish Rivendale. I've never watched that. You read next

494
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: wearing a pair of overalls that looked like he bought

495
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty two and he's squirrel hunted in him

496
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: since then, and they've never actually pretty sharp overall. That's

497
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: a question about true grit. But Lord of the just

498
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: watched that the other day. Uh yeah, Rooster, yeah yeah.

499
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: So I'm like the nerd. I'm like the nerdy. Now,

500
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: I've never watched witchcraft. Um. In Lord of the Rings,

501
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: i think it's called Rivendale. That is the where the

502
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: elves live, and it's like this like hub of all

503
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: things good. It's like it's like, you know, that is

504
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: I I agree. I've been on the only spring bear

505
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,239
Speaker 1: hunt that I've been on that I didn't go with

506
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: with you wasn't Ida on it and can you can

507
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: bait on public ground there. That's right. You can go

508
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: up there to do it yourself. Bait hunt. You can

509
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: go up there by hound permit. You there's a couple

510
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: of things you have to do, but buy hound permit.

511
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: If you do itself, do it yourself. Bait per bait

512
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: hunt you have to buy bait permit and then it's

513
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: not very expensive. Hows are cheap. It's beautiful. I'm pretty sure.

514
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: The Idaho bear season, um, I want to say it

515
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: starts on April one. Check the REGs. It's either April

516
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: one or April fift Montana starts April fifteen, So let's

517
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: go from Idaho. Montana is a great spring bear hunting destination.

518
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: But you can't run hounds, you can't bait. It's all

519
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: spot and stock hunting. You go up there and buy

520
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: a tag for three or fifty bucks. The western side

521
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: of the state is where the bears are gonna be

522
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: Idaho pretty much. The eastern side of Idaho is like

523
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: big plains, you know, like Buffalo Country. The western side

524
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: of the western one third of Idaho was in the

525
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: Rocky Mountains basically, um the highest bear densities in Montana

526
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: are going to be in northwest Montana. Uh. Now, is

527
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: there only certain units in Montana or is that statewide? Yeah?

528
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: Pretty much the western third of the state's gonna have

529
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: a bear season, from like Bozeman or the Missoula up

530
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: to Libby and uh Callaspell. I can't remember all that,

531
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: but like you can, you could essentially say that western

532
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: third of Montana is gonna for sure percent every place

533
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: is gonna have a spring bear season. There's lots of

534
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: wilderness areas, there's big blocks of National forest. Um Man,

535
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: if you could just get in any of that country

536
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 1: on the western side and learn it, you're gonna find bears.

537
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: It's not easy, uh, but it's doable. Last year we

538
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 1: took our mules to my I've hunted in the spring

539
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: in Montana three years and had at a rough time

540
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: two years and and didn't kill bear. The third year

541
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: we kind of got it figured out and we we

542
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,479
Speaker 1: killed a bear and and probably I mean, I feel

543
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: like I kind of know what's going on. But so

544
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: that's Montana. Montana opens up April, goes to June one,

545
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: and a lot of units into June fift in some units,

546
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: so you can hunt their for about two months. Um,

547
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: tags about three and fifty bucks. Wyoming, northwest Wyoming is

548
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: gonna have a bear season. Uh, it's less of the

549
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: state is open to bear hunting. Um, it's probably not

550
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: as good as Idaho and Montana in terms of bear densities,

551
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: even though there's a ton of bears and Wyoming. You

552
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 1: just don't when you hear guys talking about going out

553
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: west there there, if they're traveling, they're usually hunting Idahoa,

554
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: Idaho or Montana. Is Wyoming spotting stock or is it

555
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: a bait? You can you can hunt over bait and

556
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: Wyoming in the spring. Now, is there are grizzlies? And

557
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 1: but I didn't know. Yeah, a lot of that country,

558
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: Yes you do. And and especially in the greater Yellowstone

559
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 1: ecosystem northwest of Montana. I mean, excuse me, northwest Wyoming. Um,

560
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: for sure, there's gonna be grizz in a lot of

561
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: that country. So it's for sure. So have you got

562
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: to think about and southwest Montana you gotta worry about

563
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: grizz too. Um. Yeah, I never saw griz where I

564
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: was at in Montana. Gris we were a little bit

565
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: north of where they were Um, we were kind of

566
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: hunting like mm hm central western Montana and we didn't

567
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: see Griz, but all all of it could have been

568
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,439
Speaker 1: Grizz country. I mean we were prepared for Griz. We had, Yeah,

569
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: we did, and I knew we probably wouldn't see him.

570
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: I mean everybody, everybody that our contacts up there were

571
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: just like, you're probably not gonna see grizz of bear.

572
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: And that's good. When you're black bear hunt you don't

573
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: have to worry about that. But but uh, okay, uh

574
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: so Wyoming I have less I have less experience with Wyoming,

575
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: but good hunting. You can't non residents can't hunt wildern's

576
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: areas and Wyoming you gotta have a guide to go

577
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: into wilderness areas. Um we uh anyway, Uh, Oregon and

578
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: Washington have spring bear seasons. They're a little bit tighter.

579
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: There's different places you have to apply for. Uh, it's

580
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: different kind of hunting. It's Oregon and Washington are gonna

581
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: have a lot more thickly forested regions. Um. But great hunting,

582
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 1: great spring hunting. Um Utah has a very limited hunt

583
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 1: in the spring. I mean that like fifty tags or something.

584
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: But you can hunt over bait. Bryan Strickland kill the

585
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: bear in Utah a couple of years ago, drew a tag.

586
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: It's a draw state, and they don't. I want to say,

587
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: it's a very limited hunt. Uh. Arizona, boy, don't get

588
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: me talking about Arizona. They have they have a spring

589
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 1: bear hunt, and uh, that's right for sure. And it's yeah,

590
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: I don't think New Mexico has a spring hunt. I

591
00:37:54,560 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: don't think so. Um. I'm not gonna too much about

592
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: Arizona other than that they have a spring hunt and

593
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: a lot of it's I'm pretty sure a lot of

594
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: it's draw or you can buy some leftover tags. Um.

595
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: Alaska is el primo black bear capital of the you know,

596
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: it's not the lower forty eight, but Alaska. And uh

597
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: and then like I said, in Maine, on on tribal lands,

598
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: so okay, uh, let's talk about let's talk about crossing

599
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: the border in Canada. These are things that people like

600
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 1: are limiting factors. Like sometimes people are intimidated, like they've

601
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: never been up there and they're like, how do we

602
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: cross the border. I'm still thinking about that guy's name.

603
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: I don't remember. It was Marvin or Melvin Orice. I

604
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: knew it. I knew it, But that guy on the

605
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: beatle Juice named Maurice, I saw that one. Uh but Maurice,

606
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: he was he hadn't shaved in a couple of days.

607
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: He had on the uniform and he was setting in

608
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: the station. But um, being a policeman for the last

609
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: since n when you wear a uniform, yata, you ought

610
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: to look I mean, you don't have to look out standing,

611
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: but you should look decent more recently like he'd been

612
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 1: on the job for a while, anybody. The thing that

613
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 1: tickled me was that we went through there in Clay's

614
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 1: truck and you could not cram another case, and plus

615
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: we had a dog. You couldn't have fit another water

616
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: bottle in the cab of the truck, true for real,

617
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 1: in the cabin in the back. We had cases and

618
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: boxes and camera equipment and a dog box back there.

619
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: And Maurice said, what's your intentions in Canada? And we

620
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: told me were on a bear hunt. And he said

621
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 1: do you have any firearms? Clay said nope, we're bow hunters.

622
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: And then he said do you have any fireworks? No? No, no, no,

623
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: yes he did. He didn't say it like that though,

624
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: I remember exactly what he said. He said, Okay, So

625
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: Brent has been law enforcement, and Brent Tutor has tutored

626
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: me over the years on how to present myself to

627
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: law enforcement. Should I be stopped number one? Or should

628
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,479
Speaker 1: I be crossing the border. And he says, they want

629
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: quick and precise answers. They don't want to see hesitation.

630
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: They're trying to see if there's inconsistency in your answers

631
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: and delays or lags or some kind of gesture that

632
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: makes them think that you're nervous when you ask him

633
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: a certain type of question. Yeah, basically tell the truth.

634
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: But so anyway, so Brent had Brent had instructed me

635
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: to be very quick and assertive with my answers and

636
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: to give him nothing more than they asked for, because

637
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: you know, being from the South, you know, it's just

638
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: like you're kind of like they're like, so what do

639
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 1: you why are you here? Well, you know, my buddy,

640
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: he had me up here a few years ago to

641
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: bear hunt and we had a nice time. We killed

642
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: some bears. And you know, if you ask somebody what

643
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: time and he is, don't tell him how the watchers

644
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: might just tell him what time it wasn't. That's right. Okay,

645
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 1: So this is what he said. As he said, he said,

646
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: do you have firearms? No, what do you have for fireworks?

647
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: That's what he said. What he said, what do you

648
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: have for fireworks? And I and I looked at it

649
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: and I said, I said firearms. And then he said

650
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: what do you have for fireworks? He got frustrated with

651
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: it because I repeat, like and he he asked it

652
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: so quick as if he were going to trick me

653
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: into disclosing that we had a truck full of bottle

654
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: rockets or something. I couldn't imagine. That must be a

655
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: thing or something. It's it llegally that fireworks in Canada.

656
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: And why he thought that me and Brent Reids had fireworks,

657
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a thing. They've caught people smuggling

658
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: some fireworks through there or something as well. What I

659
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: later I did a little research. The deal was the wildfires.

660
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, okay, that's that's the deal on on

661
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: on fireworks in Canada. As you know, they have enough

662
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: trouble with lightning strikes. You know, it's a jillion acres

663
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: up there that you can't get to by roads. So

664
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: it was it's fire. Danger was doing his job. Holy cow,

665
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: we could take over Canada with them. So you got

666
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: rid of the smoke balls there. Do you remember that

667
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: we had I had like the day before we left

668
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: for Canada. Well, we're back up in May and June.

669
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: We are really June in Arkansas. I will not pass

670
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: a watermelon stand without stopping him by a watermelon, Like

671
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: I just I just can't. Anyway, I had bought this

672
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: big watermelon the day before and as we were leaving

673
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: for Canada, I was like, I'm bringing the watermelon. I

674
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: shoved this watermelon in the truck. And you're not supposed

675
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: to bring fruits and you have to declare like fruits

676
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: and vegetables like if you cross the border. Well, we

677
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: were trying to keep things simple. We were and uh,

678
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: out of sight, out of mind, and so anyway, I

679
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: mean the watermelon was like laying like in the open

680
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 1: in the back seat in anyway, you know, I didn't disclose.

681
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't claim the watermelon. And anyway, when

682
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: we got through there we were it was like it

683
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: was like smoking in the band that we were like

684
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: who got a watermelon? But we told him we had

685
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: a dog in the back we could and he never

686
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: even looked. He said, you got the paper work, handing

687
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: the paperwork, you know, the verification, he had all the shots.

688
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: He never looked back there. We could have had a

689
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: dog pin full of babies back there. That It was

690
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: just no. We were legit with the dog and the fireworks,

691
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: and we didn't have any firearms. But yeah, we didn't

692
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: have any tobacco. You were bootleg and watermelon ye yep.

693
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: Fireworks man, yep. So okay, crossing the border. You The

694
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: only thing that you have to have if you're crossing

695
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: the border is a simple non residents Firearms declaration form

696
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: that used to intimidate me before I had done it.

697
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 1: You go online and you type in in the Google

698
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: non Resident Firearms Declaration for Canada and to pull up

699
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: what's called RCMP nine. It's a one page form asked

700
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: for your just all your information, the make of the

701
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: gun on, the serial number, the caliber, how many bullets

702
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: you're bringing, and that's all it is. And you it's

703
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: best to print that off before you go and you

704
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: just hand it to him that in your passport. And

705
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: you can't take pistols, that's right. No handguns cost twenty

706
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: five dollars for that firefps declaration for him, you do

707
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: have to pull over and take an inside, and they

708
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 1: have the right to come out and look at your gun.

709
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,439
Speaker 1: They've never done it one time. For me, I don't

710
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: know how many times I've crossed the Canadian border with

711
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: firearms and they have never one time looked at my gun.

712
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: Though they have that right, and uh so it's no

713
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: big deal getting the farms across. You do have to

714
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: have a valid passport. Um, you can't be you know,

715
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: if you've got like felonies on your record or something,

716
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: you probably better do some checking on whether you across

717
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 1: the border. Um. I got a question because every time

718
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: I've been to Saskatchewan, I've flown head and rode with y'all. Yeah,

719
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: you know, I got with you at the airport. But

720
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: when we went to Ontario, we had to have a

721
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 1: if you remember, which has been a few years ago,

722
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: a valid hunting license or a hunting license from the

723
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: year before. In the States. They wasn't gonna let us

724
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: through if we didn't have a hunting license for the States. Yeah,

725
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: you know, I'm glad you brought that up because I

726
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: almost forgot about that. You're right, we and and in

727
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: that particular case with that outfitter, we had to buy

728
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 1: our license before we got there, which is not common.

729
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: Usually the outfitter sells you the license once you're in camp.

730
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: That was another thing I was gonna cover. Talk to

731
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: your outfitter and say, do I need to buy a

732
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: license before I get there or do I buy it

733
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: from you? Every place except Ontario I had the outfitters

734
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: sold me the license. But yeah, we showed up in

735
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: Ontario said hey, we need to buy nonresident bear tag

736
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: and they said, okay, show me go ahead, and do

737
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: you have a license from last year? And I mean,

738
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 1: just by chance, both of us had our Arkansas hunting license,

739
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: but I mean I cleaned out my wallet went up

740
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: the same thing and just almost their way. So what

741
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 1: would have happened? This lady made us believe that we

742
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: couldn't have bought a tag. Wow, And I don't know

743
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: if that, you know, it's been so long. I forgot

744
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: to research that to see if that was legit. But

745
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: since then I have carried a hunting license and my

746
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: hunter's AD card, even though they don't ask for it,

747
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: like when we buy a license in Saskatchewan or Manitoba.

748
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: They don't ask for a hunter's a card. Uh So anyway,

749
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: just bring your hunter's AD card from whatever state you're in.

750
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: And if you're with an outfit or communication, that's right,

751
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: that's right. Ask questions. Okay, let's talk now about how

752
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: to get hides and meet back from Canada. Now, when

753
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 1: you flew you did all the same things. You had

754
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: to declare. You know, you've never brought a gun though,

755
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: you've always bow hunted archery, but you had to go

756
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 1: through Canadian customs, so you you essentially had the same

757
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: experience we had. We just had it in the car

758
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: and while we were smuggling dogs and watermelons. Well coming

759
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: back your United States customs. So but yeah, each one

760
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: is a little different. Yeah, you know, uh, I think

761
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: when we'd come back to where was it Houston that

762
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 1: time when we flew back, that was a pain. Yeah,

763
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: that was the issue. We got held over and we

764
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: had no no, no, maybe you're was it out. We

765
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:38,479
Speaker 1: went from Saskatoon to Calgary. Calgary had the United States

766
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: customs because we was flying from there to Houston. That

767
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: was the one I think was a pain. Yeah, we

768
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 1: got what we got held We got held over that, James,

769
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: I don't remember. We got held over the time and

770
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: we had to find some place to keep Yeah. Oh

771
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: that's right. We had our hides and freezers. Yeah, but

772
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 1: pretending to hide, we always stopped by Walmart, got toped,

773
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: you know, Uh, hides were frozen. So that's you want

774
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: to talk to your outfitter and say, is there going

775
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: to be a freezer in camp? Yea in them are

776
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: gonna say yes. The only time I've not had a

777
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: freezer in camp was when I was doing like a

778
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: back country hunt in British Columbia, Canada. In the outfitter,

779
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: he didn't freeze hides. He fleshed and as salted them.

780
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: I mean, just straight up fresh. We gotta we gotta dog. No,

781
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: that's a little uh, that's a little scooter. I got

782
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: a four month though pup that just came flying. Was like,

783
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: um here he comes back. He must be running a

784
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: cotton tail. Um. Yeah. So it's ideal if you flesh

785
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: it and salted, because it that need refrigeration. You just

786
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,479
Speaker 1: roll it up, you know, usually put in a trash bagging.

787
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: That's not ideal. It could moisture could get into it.

788
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: But most times what we've done is just skin the

789
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 1: bear left, the paws left the skull in it froze

790
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: the hide solid. So if you kill the bear on

791
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: the third day of a five day hunt, you know

792
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: he's got two days in the freezer. Um, and you

793
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: can bring that hide home frozen in a tote or

794
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: in a nice chest and it will stay frozen for

795
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: probably three days. So that was something I didn't know.

796
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: We packed dirty clothes around it just for extra or

797
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,720
Speaker 1: whatever you can find for insulation inside of this tote

798
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: duct tape. The tote a good sized bear, skull, hide, fat,

799
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: everything on it is gonna weigh about fifty pounds, so

800
00:50:55,640 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay fifty pound excess baggage. Fore you're gonna

801
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: send it home marker and write all your information down

802
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: on that total YEP YEP, name, phone number, address, and

803
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: essentially you'll have three days before that thing is gonna

804
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: if it's frozen solid. So you're good because I mean

805
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: usually you get an airport, you're gonna be sleeping in

806
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: your bed within twelve hours, eighteen hours at most, Uh,

807
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: So you're totally fine. UM. Meat would be the exact

808
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,919
Speaker 1: same way if you wanted, however much meat you wanted

809
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: to bring home, which a lot of Canadian outfitters will

810
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: take the meat and handle it for you. Okay, Um,

811
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: some places you aren't required to salvage meat, but you

812
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 1: could take as much of it home anywhere you wanted,

813
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: and you would just freeze it the same way, bring

814
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: it home, deal with it. So and it's just gonna

815
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: cost you. You know, if you Killabaria, it's gonna cost

816
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 1: you a little bit. If you're shipping like that, if

817
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: you're driving, you bring ice chest. That's what we've done.

818
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: Just brought big ice chest in the back of the truck,

819
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: frozen solid, put him in. Okay, here's the other scenario.

820
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: You killed barrel on the last day and you're leaving

821
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: the next morning. You don't have time to freeze it.

822
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: Most Canadian outfitters have a way to deal with hides,

823
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: so you could just leave it with the outfitter and

824
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: the outfitter will take it to a tax dermist that

825
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 1: he knows he'll take care of it, and you can

826
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: and he'll connect you with that tax dermist and you

827
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 1: can have the bear fleshed and salted and shipped back,

828
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 1: or you can have that text dermist tan the hide.

829
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: Do whatever you want, but when you do that, you

830
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: have to fill out a side he's permit and it's

831
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: more expensive. Okay, a yeah, it's if you bring the

832
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: hide back yourself, your tag acts as your side he's

833
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: permit in almost all the provinces. To explain to the

834
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: rookie now that that side's permit is to go along

835
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: with getting stuff back across the border. It's fishing wildlife service, right, Yeah,

836
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: it has to do with it's an acronym for something

837
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 1: side ease um. But yeah, so it's it's just not

838
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 1: a big deal. But if you so, you can leave

839
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 1: it with somebody, but you're probably gonna have to pay

840
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: a little bit more to get back because then you

841
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: have to have a I don't know, it just costs

842
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: more so the other steps that you have to go through.

843
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: But it's totally doable. So don't let that be a

844
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: limiting factor of going on spring bear hunt. Okay, question

845
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:32,720
Speaker 1: number seven, Can you eat spring bear meat? Brent reeves

846
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: you why not? It's bear meat? Yeah, yeah, it tastes

847
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: the same all year long. Yeah. The only thing I've

848
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: heard actually people say that sometimes the spring meat can

849
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: taste better because it's not is greasy. Greasy is the

850
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: wrong word. Clay here slapping the face. I don't think

851
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: bear meats greazy. It's just it's leaner in the spring

852
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: because they've gone through this dinning period, their bodies used

853
00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: up with all the fat. But I have not found

854
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: that really affect the meat, like there'll be less fat

855
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: on their button. You know, the bear store a lot

856
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: of fat outside of their body. I mean, you know,

857
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: like outside, not outside their body, trailers of fat. Well,

858
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: I mean, but this this thing about what you just

859
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: said about them being a leaner, how fat were those bears?

860
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: The two bears, remember the two the bear that came

861
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: in on top of us, the bear that you referenced

862
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: while to go to the big board, that the that

863
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: stal jumped him. When we skin those bears next to

864
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: that lake, how do you remember how fat those bears were,

865
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: How thick the fat was on I mean, that was

866
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: it's just spring bears not supposed to have much fatter.

867
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,919
Speaker 1: He had. They had playing fat. They were rolling fat.

868
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: I mean they were as fat as almost as fat

869
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: as something those I don't know, I don't know. It

870
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: must have been because they can come out of the

871
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: the den super lean when you're just when you're skinning one,

872
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: there's skin touching meat, you know, and when it's when

873
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,439
Speaker 1: it's good, it's skin touching a big layer of fat,

874
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: and then you get to the meat. But I mean

875
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: there was, I mean there was. I mean you could

876
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: tell the frames those bears that y'all killed up there,

877
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: the frames, they would have carried another seventy pounds probably

878
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: of weight on them absolutely in the fall. So but still, yeah,

879
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: thatn't necessarily they're not gonna come out looking like, you know,

880
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 1: a hostage man. We've been eating more and more bear meat.

881
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: I mean we've always eaten bear meat, but since the

882
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: kids have started killing bears every fall, multiple bears, it

883
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: just seems like we're eating more and more bear beat man.

884
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: Ground bear meat has become the staple for tacos, chili,

885
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: any kind of ground meat stuff. I mean, Misty when

886
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: I cook deer chili, now, Misty is like, oh it's

887
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: dear chili. Serious. And if you've heard other stuff on

888
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: my podcast, my wife is not a big hunter, very

889
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 1: supportive and stuff, but I mean she's not. I have

890
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: a reason to want to eat bear meat and like it.

891
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I got a little bit best

892
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 1: in this, So I'm like, man, it's the best step.

893
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: Misty's like totally unbiased. She ain't gonna eat if she

894
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: didn't like it. She loves bear meat for especially for chili,

895
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: for tacos, for you know, anything that is just using

896
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: ground meat. You know when when when I kill one

897
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: and it's it's gone. It doesn't last. Now I can

898
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: go from we eat a lot of dear meat, but

899
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: I can go from season to season and like, oh man,

900
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 1: there's some I got some dear meat left in here.

901
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: The bear meat is gone. Yeah, because I got My

902
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,720
Speaker 1: seven year old daughter would rather eat a bear steak

903
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: than she had a beef steak. But a lot we

904
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: do a lot with the hamburger and chili and burgers

905
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And my wife is very she's

906
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: you know, she isn't She is a city mouse if

907
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: there ever was one, and she likes it. So yeah,

908
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: it's it's good stuff. Man, um question number twelve, Uh,

909
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: do spring bear hides get rubbed out? I'm sure certain bears.

910
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: Each one's a little different personally. I've never seen one.

911
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: I don't know how many bears we've seen up there,

912
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: but a lot they're there you know, I remember talking

913
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: about it when on the way up there, we're like,

914
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to, you know, watch for rubbed down bear.

915
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: Just rubbed out the bear is over real good. It

916
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: rubbed out bear means that so bears have these long

917
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: guard hairs which are like up to three four inches long,

918
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: probably not four, but up to three. And then they

919
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: have this under fur which is like almost like the down,

920
00:57:54,120 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: really fine finer fur, insulating fur. And uh, what they'll

921
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: do in the spring, they do molt. They shed their

922
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: their fur. From the time they come out of the

923
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: den to the time they go back in, they grow

924
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: basically a new coat. They shed those guard hairs, and

925
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: so they'll get on trees and rub their butts and rug.

926
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: We've seen and filmed a ton of them doing that.

927
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: But you know they'd get off the tree and walk

928
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: away and they wouldn't have a spot on them like that. Yeah,

929
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: you know we've seen, uh that little blond female that

930
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: was that that little board was chasing chasing around that

931
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: day and she was molten or whatever, but she wouldn't

932
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: or ride wouldn't the inn or bear in any spot. Yeah,

933
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: So what you said rhyme before we started and it's

934
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: what I say too, is it just seems to be

935
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: a non issue. Yeah, I mean, you know, certain bears,

936
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure, But it also depends if you're looking, say,

937
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: if you've got a trophy twenty one inch bear come

938
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: in and rubbed a little bit, I'm shooting that, Barry,

939
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. You know, unless you're oneting the guy that's

940
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: wanting something to a rugged to put on the wall,

941
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: you know, check it out. But and more unlikely you're

942
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,919
Speaker 1: gonna notice it right off the bat. But personally, I've

943
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: never seen one rubbed out and looked terrible there there.

944
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: I just haven't run across. So you know, the odd time,

945
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: and it's the odd time you'll see a bear that

946
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: just is straight up rubbed, and you'll be like that

947
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: bears rubbed, Brent. And I saw a bear that had mange,

948
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: and I mean it's the whole back half of its

949
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: body was bear. And I mean you're obviously I'm not

950
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,919
Speaker 1: gonna shoot that bear. It was bear naked. It still

951
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: gives me bad dreams thinking about it. Um. Now, and

952
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: that bear wasn't rubbed, I mean there was something wrong, yeah, um,

953
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: but I have seen him. I put a picture action

954
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: the Marchepile issue of Barony magazine of a rubbed bear

955
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: that I took a photo of myself, and it was

956
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,479
Speaker 1: just so obvious. I mean, it just it just looked

957
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: like a mangy dog. And there wasn't anything wrong with

958
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: this bear. Its whole body was covered in hair, but

959
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: it was just you could just tell us. And there

960
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: may be certain regions where that's more common versus you know,

961
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: other places, and that's what I have said. But I've

962
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: hunted all over Canada and it's never seems to be

963
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: a big issue anywhere. Yeah, I mean, because I thought

964
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: the same thing. I thought, well, probably maybe just the

965
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: places we've gone have have not had many rub bears.

966
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: But well, last last spring we were in uh, where

967
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: were we, British Columbia, and those bears coming into camp.

968
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: We're just Christine And and now that was mid May, though,

969
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: and you would expect that in mid May when the

970
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,919
Speaker 1: main data point that I'm using is this late June

971
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: hunting that we're that we're hunting at Saskatchewan. But anyway,

972
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: it's just not that big of an issue. You know,

973
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 1: it's not a it's not a reason to not go,

974
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: you know, not Okay, costs. So people are like, what's

975
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 1: the spring bearing cost? What are you looking for? What province,

976
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 1: what state you want to go to. I mean it

977
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: ranges from pretty reasonable to pretty high versus do it

978
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 1: yourself or a inclusive watch hunt. So it's what you

979
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: want to experience and what you want to pay for.

980
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: Here's the deal. You can hunt. There's places in Quebec

981
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: that for a thousand dollars you can go on a

982
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: six day spring bear hunt, stay in a nice camp,

983
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: cook your own food, outfitter, show you where the bear

984
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: baits are. And I'm serious. There there are places we

985
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: can go for a thousand dollars, especially in Quebec, and

986
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: hunt and guys kill bears and guys kill some good bears.

987
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: Some places aren't some places like two. Well, let's talk

988
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: about the let's talk about the prices and the different provinces. Okay,

989
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 1: So Quebec, Quebec would be known for its fishing, it's

990
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 1: beauty and it's affordability. A lot of fishing outfitters that

991
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: are also bear outfitters in Quebec. It's like a it's

992
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: a good place to go if you're looking for a

993
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: bear hunt. Okay, it's a one bear province. Let's move

994
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 1: over to Ontario. Ontario has a we're coming well, I

995
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: guess we we got the other ones. Newfoundland, let's go

996
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: back east. Newfoundland is a two bear province. New Brunswick

997
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 1: is the two bear province. Um, those hunts in New

998
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: Brunswick and Newfoundland are gonna be from two thousand to

999
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: three thousand dollars, two thousand to thirty dollars most of

1000
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: them for a good hunt. Okay, that's the price range

1001
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: for week pretty much for a week fully guided hunt,

1002
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: you can and for that in that range in those places.

1003
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: Most of those places are gonna be fully guided like

1004
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 1: lodge type hunts. You're gonna be staying with the lives suppost,

1005
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,959
Speaker 1: gonna be cooking your dinner, and you're gonna you're gonna

1006
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: pay between twenty and thirty five dollars in those provinces,

1007
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 1: if I could put it that way. Ontario is gonna

1008
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 1: be similar. Ontario has some economical hunts. The Ontario Spring Hunt,

1009
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: I think is on its last year before they re

1010
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 1: evaluated again to decide if they're going to renew it.

1011
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: Ontario didn't have a spring hunt for a long time,

1012
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 1: so Ontario is kind of on the fence. I think

1013
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: is the year they decide if they're going to renew

1014
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 1: their hunt. So it's it's a political deal. It's a

1015
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: bad deal. But Ontario hunts are usually in the two

1016
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: thousand dollar range. Two thousand We went in August. Yeah,

1017
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 1: we follow hunted Ontario. Yeah, and the berries were full, warm,

1018
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: full and ripe yes in late August. But we ended

1019
01:03:56,720 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: up having a heck of a hunt for a cheap,

1020
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: for cheap hu hunt um Manitoba in Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta

1021
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: are gonna be kind of the prime in terms of

1022
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 1: the cost is going to be more. But that's kind

1023
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: of your prime time places for spring bear hunting if

1024
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 1: we're just being honest. Um, costs are gonna be between

1025
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 1: and and these are gonna be like your uh for hope,

1026
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: I do undefend some other outfitters and other places, but

1027
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 1: these are your world class beta black bear hunts are

1028
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 1: going to be in these places, Trophy and there's all

1029
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: kind of different outfitters. There's out you know, you need

1030
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,479
Speaker 1: to you need to talk to multiple outfitters and ask

1031
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 1: them what kind of stuff they offer. Uh. Ryan just

1032
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 1: talked about his buddy that hunted Alberta a few years

1033
01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: ago at a great hunt, killed two monster bears, but

1034
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 1: set in an outfitters house for six days, board out

1035
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: of his mind to tell time to go hunt, killed

1036
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: two awesome bears, but didn't enjoy it because he just

1037
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 1: felt like it was he just didn't that much to do.

1038
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 1: Go ahead, We got to each their own, you know.

1039
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 1: Uh for us where I think we're more adventure bound,

1040
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 1: you know, waking up, eat breakfast, that's what we call Brent. Yeah,

1041
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 1: my middle name. Maybe getting to go fish anytime you want,

1042
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: you know, and different things. That was nice as far

1043
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: as I wanted to sit and indoors till three or

1044
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 1: four o'clock. Not my thing, but if it's world class

1045
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 1: bear hunting, it may be worth it. So yeah. But yeah, well,

1046
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 1: and that's what every outfitter is gonna offer. Something different,

1047
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 1: like you know, in places we're going in Saskatchewan or

1048
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 1: like you know, staying in wall tense and like this

1049
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 1: remote camp, riding in boats. It's a little bit tougher.

1050
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 1: It's a little bit more of an adventure based kind

1051
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: of deal. Some people may not want that. Some people

1052
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 1: may want to stay in the house and have to

1053
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: have somebody cooking their meals every day, and and that's fun.

1054
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 1: I've been on hunts like that a ton of fun.

1055
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 1: You need to just talk to people and see what

1056
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: they see, what they do. I like to talk to

1057
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 1: somebody three or four times even, and that tests their

1058
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 1: level of patients and you will. The way I the

1059
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 1: way I think about it when I talked to somebody

1060
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 1: is you you really have to be discerned about that outfitter.

1061
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 1: But what I'm trying to understand is they are they honest?

1062
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: And are they gonna do what they say they're gonna do.

1063
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 1: Is this a person that I would feel comfortable sending

1064
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 1: my best friend and his daughter to hunt with based

1065
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 1: upon this phone conversation, And if I still have questions

1066
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: about that, then I'm not gonna go hunt with him.

1067
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I mean, you kind of

1068
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 1: you get a good feel for somebody on the phone

1069
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 1: to with multiple conversations, and the people legitimate folks like that,

1070
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 1: they realize that they are working for you. I mean, yeah,

1071
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 1: you're you're paying their light bill. Yeah, So that's a

1072
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 1: that's a big factor in me. Haven't been in the

1073
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 1: outfitting bitches myself somewhat for for ducks. Yeah, people want

1074
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 1: to know where their money is going, and if you're

1075
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: going to be honest about it, you want to tell

1076
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 1: them where it's going. You know, no surprises on that

1077
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 1: in Yeah. Well there's all different kind of outfitters. There's

1078
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 1: good ones and bad ones. Should just are Um it's

1079
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 1: the scatch. So Manitoban, Saskatchewan or one bear provinces um.

1080
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 1: Alberta is a two bear province, which Alberta is hard

1081
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 1: to beat. You can get you know, the prices are

1082
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: going to be from probably three thousand to five thousand dollars,

1083
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 1: but a lot of camps you go in and you're

1084
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 1: hunting two bears in a week. Some some outfitters would

1085
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 1: charge a trophy fielding the second bear. UM. But Alberta

1086
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: is an awesome place. I've been on a couple of

1087
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 1: really good hunts in Alberta. UM. So those are the

1088
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 1: three that I would say for baited spring hunts are

1089
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: the el primo Canadian baited spring bear hunts. British Columbia

1090
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 1: can't huntover bait, but they are el primo for Canadian

1091
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 1: spot and stock hunting, and they're known for big bears.

1092
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:22,679
Speaker 1: They're known for good camps. They're known for like wall

1093
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 1: tent type camps. Uh in the mountains. Lot outfitters do that.

1094
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 1: I've hunted British Columbia. I think three three times and

1095
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 1: it's it's I'll go back. It's a ton of fun.

1096
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:41,839
Speaker 1: It's beautiful, man, holy place, big mountains, wolves and grizzly bears.

1097
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: Not to change your subject is the bugs is bad.

1098
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 1: They're in spring as versus other provinces. Did we ever

1099
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 1: even think about bugs in British Columbia last year? No,

1100
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 1: we were seeing grizzly tracks, That's what I was thinking about. Yeah.

1101
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 1: We we never even broke out our thermselves. Is that right?

1102
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 1: That's crazy? Yeah, but it was a spot in stock hunts.

1103
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: So we're moving around a lot. Yeah. But now, bugs

1104
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 1: weren't bad there even when we set up, Like when

1105
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 1: Gary and I set up and filmed you when you

1106
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 1: went up, try to put the stock on that or

1107
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,560
Speaker 1: did put the stock on that black bear? Across that

1108
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 1: field where we were at that we didn't have bug

1109
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: problems at all. Yeah, that's how they do. But definitely

1110
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 1: to think about wherever you're traveling is bugs. Yeah, logistics

1111
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 1: on that like uh, flying you know you can't fly

1112
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 1: with the beautane cart. Yeah, that's a good that's a

1113
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 1: good topic to bring. Ontario was if you remember, Oh

1114
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 1: my gosh, yeah, but Saskatchewan. I'd rather had grizzly bears

1115
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 1: in our camp than the excute as we had. But yeah,

1116
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 1: bugsuits deterrent. The way that I described it is that

1117
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 1: some people say I'm not gonna spring bear it because

1118
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: of the bugs to either non issue if you have

1119
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 1: thermo cells, and they truly are, and when you're hunting

1120
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 1: click on thermocells. I've heard people be like, well, what

1121
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 1: about the smell? And I when they do that, I say,

1122
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 1: come here a little closer, and I slap him in

1123
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: the face. At the same time I'm picking him in

1124
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 1: the shin, because if that bear smells your thermo cell

1125
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 1: and runs away, he is also smelling a big human

1126
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 1: and running away. So I'm not worried about the scent

1127
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 1: of a thermocell on a bear bait. In Canada, we

1128
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 1: run two at a time, Like when I'm hunting me

1129
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 1: and Brent, he'll have one setting back by him and

1130
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,720
Speaker 1: I have one right here, and it's just a non issue. Now,

1131
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 1: when you're skinning, you better bring that thermocell everywhere you

1132
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 1: go though, because if you trail that bear and you

1133
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 1: start skinning that bear out there, they'll carry you away.

1134
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: But you cook on your thermo cell and it's a

1135
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 1: non issue. And I've always I found out that you know,

1136
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 1: if the it's just like here, if the wind gets

1137
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 1: up big enough that it's blowing your thermosill away, it's

1138
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 1: blowing the skeeters away to that. Yeah, yeah, Um. What

1139
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 1: we've done in the past to have been mailed either

1140
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: mailed all our thermal sale stuff to the outfitter before

1141
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 1: the hunt. What you can do, or you buy it

1142
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 1: once you get into Canada, like if you fly into

1143
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 1: Winnipeg or Saskatoon or somewhere in Canada, usually you can

1144
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 1: go buy it. Uh. Here's the truth too, is that

1145
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 1: I've accidentally packed it in my luggage and never had

1146
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 1: any problem. You the watermelons, cartridges and the mountains are

1147
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: probably come down here. The days are gonna come down here. Um,

1148
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 1: the Canadian Mounted Police, wouldn't it be funny if we

1149
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: saw him trotting up the driveway on their horses, say,

1150
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 1: we heard your podcast, We heard you smuggled in watermelons

1151
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 1: and cartridges, bututane cartridges. Now it was an accident, it

1152
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 1: would be like get the Canada and be like dang.

1153
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 1: But when you can carry him in if you're driving,

1154
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 1: it's not a problem. They're not illegal, you just can't

1155
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 1: put them on airplane. Yeah. So, um, and what I

1156
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 1: just said was actually a lot that never happened. I

1157
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 1: have never smuggled watermelon or thermal cells into Canada. Just

1158
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 1: for the record, that was all a joke. Um, but really, folks,

1159
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 1: Question number twenty, Question number twenty. No, we were talking

1160
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 1: about the provinces and that that kind of dissects just

1161
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 1: in short, the Canadian provinces and kind of how they operate. Uh.

1162
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 1: You can hound hunt in British Columbia in the spring

1163
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 1: for bear if you want to. None of the others

1164
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 1: provinces are are bear hunting with hounds. Um, yeah, I

1165
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 1: don't think any of them. Actually, well no, no, no,

1166
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: you can you can you can hunt. You can hunt

1167
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 1: in the spring in in Ontario with hounds. Does it

1168
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 1: have to be with an outfit or can as? Yeah,

1169
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 1: any US person hunting in candidate it's either family. There

1170
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 1: is a a for direct family to hunt Canada without

1171
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 1: an outfitter, like if your dad lived in Canada, you could.

1172
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 1: I can't remember what they call it. It's been so long. Uh,

1173
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 1: there's a way for family to hunt Canada. But otherwise,

1174
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 1: you in Ontario, you can. I've never heard anybody in

1175
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 1: British Columbia doing that, but I'm pretty sure you can. Yeah. So, man, Hey,

1176
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 1: that's a pretty fairly comprehensive conversation we've had here boys

1177
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 1: about spring bear hunt. Can y'all think of any other

1178
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 1: you know, the thing that I'm trying to talk to

1179
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 1: people about, its limiting factors, and frequently ask questions, you know,

1180
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 1: like I don't want to go to Canada because of

1181
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 1: the bugs. I don't want to go to Canada because

1182
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 1: they can't bring back the meat. I don't want to

1183
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 1: go to Canada because I'm a sissy. What Your sissiness

1184
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,799
Speaker 1: is your problem, and you're gonna have to take personal

1185
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 1: responsibility for it, right brand exactly, or I will lay

1186
01:13:54,560 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 1: the blame on you. What about weapons? Like, what's legal? Yeah,

1187
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:06,679
Speaker 1: spring bear hunting in Canada? Okay? Are all three types? Shotguns, rifles,

1188
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 1: and archery? I would assume, Okay, you caught me off guard.

1189
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 1: Archery and firearms could be legal everywhere, you know, Like,

1190
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 1: so if you're going to spring bear hunt, it's not

1191
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 1: like you're just going on a spring bow hunt. Like

1192
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:26,640
Speaker 1: you could carry any of the mainstream cartridges, muzzleloaders, uh, shotguns,

1193
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 1: anything like that. The only thing I don't know a

1194
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 1: hund percent about is crossbows. I believe there are a

1195
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 1: few provinces that don't allow crossbows and something else to

1196
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 1: ask you. Yeah, but most of them do, I want

1197
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:49,639
Speaker 1: to say, of them allow crossbows, regular archery, traditional archery, muzzloaders, shotguns, rifles.

1198
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 1: There's nothing that you can't do, I mean, you know,

1199
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 1: um except handguns. You cannot bring handguns in Canada. Um

1200
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 1: let me get listen, No, listen to this, listen to this.

1201
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 1: Last year I bought Shephard Nucom one of these little

1202
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 1: pistol BB guns on a trip and uh he, for

1203
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 1: whatever reason, when we left can here, that gun was

1204
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 1: in my truck, that pistol BB gun. Last year. No,

1205
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 1: I don't remember when it was. Well, you know, it's

1206
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 1: like a forty dollar be begun and we stayed the

1207
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 1: night in North Dakota. Okay, there's probably they are probably

1208
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 1: like one of those unsolved mystery shows about this about

1209
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 1: someone that saw me dispose of a handgun in a

1210
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 1: trash can at a roadside hotel in North Dakota, because

1211
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:51,680
Speaker 1: that's what I did. We got to North Dakota and

1212
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 1: I found that pistol and I didn't It probably was

1213
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 1: legal to bring a BB gun, but I just didn't

1214
01:15:56,240 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 1: want the hassle off. Maurice was there. Uh, same with

1215
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 1: a Mota. I remember like pulling up to this trash can,

1216
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 1: like looking around. Stefanboy was looking and putting that BB

1217
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 1: gun in that. In that tonight on Unsolved Mysteries, somebody

1218
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 1: was probably up in like the tenth floor videoing like sun.

1219
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 1: You know, sweetie, that guy just threw a handgun in

1220
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 1: the trash can, peeled out. Duke's a hazard did out

1221
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 1: of the parking lot. Okay, sorry, I guess, uh so

1222
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 1: anything else I don't guess. Okay, weather weather from here,

1223
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 1: it's cold up there. What would you how would you

1224
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:50,679
Speaker 1: describe it? Uh? Well, you can't just grab Arkansas because

1225
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 1: I've week before last I ran my air conditioning one

1226
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 1: day in the heat the next. So but we um

1227
01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 1: the first year we went up there, we built to

1228
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 1: fire every night. Was in May. In late June, I

1229
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:06,560
Speaker 1: don't think we ever. Uh. I think I had a

1230
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 1: fire most nights. There was. Some of the days though,

1231
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 1: it was like that day the horse fly. We come

1232
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:16,640
Speaker 1: out and we get warm. It's eighties or nineties or

1233
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 1: something like that. I would say, I tell people to

1234
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 1: be prepared from for thirty to seventy degree weather into eighty.

1235
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 1: I mean that's a good average. So bring your jacket,

1236
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 1: bring your coat, bring your rain gear everywhere you go,

1237
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 1: but be prepared to for it to maybe be warm.

1238
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 1: You know, rain gear for sure, Bring your rain gear

1239
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 1: everywhere you go in in anywhere in Canada in the spring,

1240
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 1: you can leave camp and it be a bright, sunny,

1241
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 1: beautiful day and about the time you get to the

1242
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 1: bear Bait it may just come a gully washer out

1243
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 1: of nowhere. Yeah. I remember the first day we got there.

1244
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 1: I asked the outfitter. He said, all right, y'all, when

1245
01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 1: y'all get your stuff together, said I need to take

1246
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 1: my rain done in think my raincoat with me or whatever.

1247
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,600
Speaker 1: He said, Dude, this is Canada. You didn't take it

1248
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 1: with you where you go unless you want to get wet.

1249
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 1: You know what, though, I've never been just totally rained

1250
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,559
Speaker 1: out in a week of Canadian hunting. When I first

1251
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 1: started hunting in Canada, I thought you might get a

1252
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:20,560
Speaker 1: week where it just rain NonStop for six days. I

1253
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 1: have never experienced that. That that day or yeah, a

1254
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 1: matter of fact, it rained that day was one of

1255
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 1: the first day. We said, like forty five minutes and

1256
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 1: then it was gone. Remember the thunderstorm coming back through

1257
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 1: Compulsion Bay. I wasn't there. You guys were. Yeah, we

1258
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 1: went to the bank, got out of the boat. It

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01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 1: was thunder lightning. It was bad. Yeah, were you okay?

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Speaker 1: Me and Brent we're back. Yeah, y'all were hunting by

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Speaker 1: yourself or we weren't there. Our guide was you know,

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Speaker 1: Native Josh, and you know he's pretty rugged as they come,

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Speaker 1: but he's like, guys, we're gonna make a pit stop.

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Speaker 1: Went to the bank. Yeah, yeah, yep. Well, hey, excellent,

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys. Time and um, what do we say, Brent?

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Speaker 1: Keep the wild places wild? That's where the bears did

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Speaker 1: say it again a little tighter compacted with Mark. I

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Speaker 1: was sitting around tea and round up and I'll take it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna help me out right, keep the wild places wild,

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Speaker 1: because that's where the bears lived in the springtime