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Speaker 2: Listener discretion is advised. The World's a Pigeon podcast. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to Patriots Unfiltered. I'm looking for outdoor cushions that are

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Speaker 2: completely water pool. That's I need Bob hook me up.

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Speaker 2: So I need ten cushions. Do you have a that's

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Speaker 2: just wanting to cover on your furniture every night. It's

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Speaker 2: like a ritual. Does TJ play a bugle while you're

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Speaker 3: It takes like literally thirty seconds. Probably in the acres,

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Speaker 3: you probably have to take the golf cart out to

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Speaker 2: I have a cover for everything. I have a cover

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Speaker 2: for the table, but I'm not doing that.

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Speaker 4: About a cushion box, just take box for your cushions

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Speaker 4: to store your cushion bar and then they stay too.

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Speaker 2: I said, it's ten cushions, Yeah, it's a lot of

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Speaker 2: All right, Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. This is Fred Kersh

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Speaker 2: Mike do so Bowman, what are we doing? Like? This is?

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Speaker 2: This is weird? I don't know. For some reason, I

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Speaker 2: felt a little different. But it is Tuesday and we're

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Speaker 2: here at Chilett Stadium with our first edition of Patriots

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Speaker 2: Unfiltered from our new studio. I'll give you a little

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Speaker 2: heads up. It's not one hundred complete. This is just

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Speaker 2: temporary furniture. Uh, new furnitures coming in at the end

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Speaker 2: of the week. But you get a little sense of

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Speaker 2: of what you're going to be seeing from now on

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Speaker 2: with Patriots Unfiltered. A little bit more of a relaxed look,

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Speaker 2: I think. So you know that includes Matisse, you know, relaxed.

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Speaker 4: You can see our ears now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't need headphones anymore.

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Speaker 6: Reminds me of Bar Rescue when they do the big

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we still have some things to do with

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Speaker 2: the monitors in the background and and so on and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit of a different five though. It's

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Speaker 4: I was saying before, I'm trying to imagine Paul getting

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Speaker 4: mad in a couch. I just can't see it. I

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Speaker 2: Maybe we'll just give him a piece of plywood, like

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Speaker 2: he could just be uncomfortable angry. Yeah, it's just the

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Speaker 2: three of us because it is the dog days of

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Speaker 2: the NFL and a lot of people are out today.

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Speaker 2: Paul's out, Alex is out, Tamara's out, Evan's.

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Speaker 4: Out, Evan's out, Evan's uh, you have, Paul's down in

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Speaker 4: the Bahamas. So I saw some pictures. Looks like he's

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Speaker 4: having a great time, and yeah, I watching Bryce Baron

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Speaker 4: oh my god, walking a golf course today. Yeah, it

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Speaker 4: would be pretty miserable, but uh but yeah, we'll get

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Speaker 4: through it. I've been watching some some tennis.

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Speaker 4: I watched Cocoa Golf this weekend. I was thinking of you,

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Speaker 4: because full of herself she did, and I was I

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Speaker 4: So I'm like, all right, I know friend's watching ten

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Speaker 4: Not gonna stoneface.

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Speaker 2: Maybe later, but we'll get into Patriots. What do we

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Speaker 2: Clearly I think I think he will be clear. He

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Speaker 6: if you sit May, I think you need to stick

434
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Speaker 6: to your guns a little and sit him the first

435
00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,320
Speaker 6: couple of games. Don't like once it goes south, don't

436
00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:40,159
Speaker 6: just yank Brisette.

437
00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,600
Speaker 4: It's hard. I know it's hard. It's hard, and that's

438
00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,400
Speaker 4: like you get into all the different no.

439
00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,720
Speaker 2: So, but to get back to that, Okay, if you

440
00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,040
Speaker 2: sit in May, why are you sitting him? You know,

441
00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,240
Speaker 2: if it's just a philosophy thing, really dumb. But if

442
00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,280
Speaker 2: you're sitting him because you know he just doesn't quite

443
00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:00,439
Speaker 2: get it, he's not picking up things quick enough. Yeah,

444
00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,040
Speaker 2: and so we'd rather just have Brissette out there. Then

445
00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,480
Speaker 2: you know, you have to sit him until you see

446
00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:12,120
Speaker 2: something in practice where it's clicking, you know, So it's

447
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,320
Speaker 2: really why are you sitting him? Determines how fast he

448
00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,240
Speaker 2: can get back in because he has to come, he

449
00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:21,320
Speaker 2: has to overcome that. Why why did you sit him? Okay,

450
00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,800
Speaker 2: when is he going to be ready? But like I said,

451
00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,960
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't he's going to show that

452
00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,080
Speaker 2: he's ready right away. And if that's the case, start

453
00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,359
Speaker 2: him with you on that. Yeah, now you know, okay,

454
00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,040
Speaker 2: offensive line, well, who's your tackle? They'll figure that out.

455
00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:37,040
Speaker 2: They'll figure that.

456
00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,320
Speaker 4: I think so. I think so. But is quarterback in

457
00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,159
Speaker 4: football the only position in any sport where this is

458
00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:42,760
Speaker 4: a conversation?

459
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,920
Speaker 2: Yes, that that's kind of the point that we made

460
00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,320
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago. No other sport do you say, oh,

461
00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,879
Speaker 2: it's better to have a player sit and he'll get better,

462
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,679
Speaker 2: you know, because he's not ready. It's hey, if you

463
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,239
Speaker 2: think he's got the potential, get him out there, you know,

464
00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,879
Speaker 2: because that's how you get better faster you make him.

465
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,480
Speaker 2: And that's why I was upset in year one with

466
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,240
Speaker 2: Mac Jones. I said it right away, they're over managing him.

467
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,600
Speaker 2: Let him make mistakes, let him figure out, you know,

468
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,240
Speaker 2: the level of where his water settles. Yeah, you know,

469
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,800
Speaker 2: let him throw interceptions, because that's how he'll figure out

470
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,919
Speaker 2: who he is and what his limits are. You know,

471
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,240
Speaker 2: we always use Peyton Manning, one of the greatest quarterbacks

472
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 2: of all time. Had more interceptions his first year than

473
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,760
Speaker 2: he had touchdowns by far, by far. But the Colts

474
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,159
Speaker 2: knew he was good. It wasn't even a question. We're

475
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:32,879
Speaker 2: gonna We're gonna let him be Peyton Manning.

476
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,000
Speaker 4: Do you think Fred how they managed him that first

477
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,359
Speaker 4: year though that and did they ended up reaping what

478
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 4: they sewed with that in twenty twenty three?

479
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they didn't let him throw into the

480
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,040
Speaker 2: end zone until like Week five or something. It was

481
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,880
Speaker 2: like some ridiculous amount of games before he even threw

482
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 2: a pass into the end zone.

483
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 4: And then that tentative nature you saw, and.

484
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:53,920
Speaker 2: Then by the end of the season when you needed

485
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 2: him to do a little bit more, he couldn't do it.

486
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,199
Speaker 2: They just weren't that good. And then year two you

487
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 2: don't have mcdan anymore, you know, I mean, it was

488
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,879
Speaker 2: a whole mess. But it's seriously seems like I mean,

489
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 2: but but you know, now he had to do it

490
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 2: on his own more or less. Uh, and he just

491
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 2: couldn't do it was just it was it was it

492
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 2: was disgusting what we were watching.

493
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,119
Speaker 4: So it's a weird kind of three year sample size.

494
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 2: So much happened, well.

495
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 4: The success, you know, right like and managed second year,

496
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 4: it's like they feel like, based on what Damian Harris said,

497
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 4: they don't have the answers anymore, like they they they

498
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 4: cannot counter what other teams are going to do. They

499
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 4: don't really have a plan of attack that's going to

500
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 4: put the other team in conflict. And then last year

501
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,880
Speaker 4: it's like I think we just all assumed they could

502
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 4: shake loose of that and figure would break him of that,

503
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,919
Speaker 4: restores get rid of the chaos and the structure he

504
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 4: had the Alabama connection. You know, we're going to get

505
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 4: him back on that.

506
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 2: But there was something going on, and you know, we've

507
00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 2: yet to hear Bill O'Brien, you know, like able to

508
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 2: just talk about it honestly and openly. Someday I think

509
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,439
Speaker 2: we will like what happened in that twenty twenty three season.

510
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 2: But there was more going on than just Mac Jones.

511
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,479
Speaker 2: I'm sure of it. You know.

512
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, well even watching I was watching the Football Life again,

513
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,679
Speaker 4: but you see young Billy out, which I think was

514
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 4: Oaita was Oaita's first year is coordinator nine. Josh Stain No. Eight,

515
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 4: Josh left to know nine, So it was it was

516
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 4: his first year as coordinator. And you know, watching Bill

517
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 4: kind of go through go through things with him, he's

518
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 4: still kind of wide eyed and you know, now he's

519
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 4: obviously a very experienced coach and he's just you just

520
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 4: wonder how that relationship evolved last year, and you know

521
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 4: how frustrating it must have been for Bill O'Brien. Is

522
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 4: I mean, I remember our first meeting with Bill O'Brien

523
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 4: in that PR room and feeling like, all right, like

524
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 4: this guy.

525
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 2: Knows what you're doing.

526
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 4: You know the same thing I'm saying about Alex Manapel

527
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 4: right now. That's what I was saying last year after

528
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 4: we talked with Bill O'Brien and it's like, oh, God,

529
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 4: like sanity, he has an offense, he knows what he

530
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 4: wants as a plan. Yeah, and it still didn't matter.

531
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you know, I think last year coaching

532
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 2: across the board on offense wasn't up to par, and

533
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 2: not O'Brien, but you know, you started out with Adrian

534
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,439
Speaker 2: Klement offensive line and something happened there. Yeah, I mean

535
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,479
Speaker 2: he was bad mouth and cameraman and you know, like

536
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 2: something was going on there with him, and I think

537
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 2: there might have been a health problem with him, you know,

538
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 2: but the offensive line was neglected. You know, the coaching

539
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 2: there wasn't wide receiving coaching. We all love Troy Brown,

540
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 2: but there's a reason why he's not the wide receiver

541
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 2: coach this year. Ye you know, so a lot a

542
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: lot of issues last year on offense, and it wasn't

543
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 2: just Mac Jones.

544
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 4: And kind of interesting though too, just to like how

545
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 4: they got to Tyler Hughes, who was here and you know,

546
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 4: was I think an offensive assistant under Troy Brown, and

547
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 4: then you know, goes to Washington just for a year,

548
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 4: and now he comes back, and so you had a

549
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 4: guy in the house that it almost reminds me a

550
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 4: little of Nick Cayley, where it's you know, you had

551
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 4: a guy kind of in house. They wanted to bring

552
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 4: him back, weren't able to, but you know, another guy

553
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 4: who had seemed like maybe there opportunities were stunted by

554
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 4: the setup of the last coaching staff.

555
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 2: It's true, you know, Yeah, I don't know.

556
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 4: But it's I'm glad they've got a lot of these

557
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 4: guys back in place.

558
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: I just I think that, Yeah, but I think the

559
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 2: bottom line, you know where we started this conversation, going

560
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 2: into twenty twenty four, to me, I'm optimistic that we're

561
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 2: going to see things that are going to give us hope.

562
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 2: You know, it may not reflect itself in the in

563
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 2: the record at the end of the season because of

564
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 2: a lot of factors, you know better you know, strength

565
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 2: to schedule in, facing better quarterbacks and all that stuff,

566
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 2: and just you know, starting from scratch on offense. But

567
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 2: I do think I hope that I hope by at

568
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 2: the end of the season we say, okay, we got

569
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 2: something to build on here. Now we add a few

570
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 2: more things for twenty twenty five and let's go yeah, yeah, yeah.

571
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 4: You see those teams all the time. I think it's

572
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 4: probably just a little jarring for Patriots fans to go

573
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 4: from expecting to be in the NFC AFC Championship Game

574
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 4: every year to now like, well, we've got to get

575
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 4: over hoping.

576
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: Like no, it's a lot it's like five years now.

577
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 4: But you look at a team like you know, Jacksonville,

578
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago. Who you know, they got

579
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence. There's some excitement brewing there and you know

580
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 4: they get to the playoffs and you know it's it's

581
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 4: I don't know, I'm trying to think of a good

582
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 4: comparison because it's just like, it isn't that powerful drug

583
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 4: that you really want, right Like Patriots fans, they've had

584
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 4: the heroine of being.

585
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 2: A dynasty, like they'll be chasing that right forever.

586
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 4: You can't like like you're like, oh great, we feel

587
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 4: good about a few guys, like you know, like it's

588
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 4: hard to get back. I mean, I'm there. I want

589
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 4: to be there too.

590
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 2: But once he gets the hard point, it's once if

591
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 2: Drake May proves that he can be, you know, a

592
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 2: top notch you know, I'm not saying elite, I'm not

593
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 2: saying Patrick, but if he could be a top ten

594
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 2: quarterback or at least top half of the league, now

595
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 2: you know you got something to build on. Now you

596
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: can build around this guy and you know, yeah, he's

597
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 2: not going to be Patrick Mahomes, but you can win

598
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: football games with him and if you if you add

599
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 2: some pieces, you know it'll be a worthwhile investment because

600
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: you've got the quarterback.

601
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Speaker 6: So when you say that the dream scenario is the

602
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 6: Texans to be the Texans c J. Strouch, That's that's

603
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 6: the dream scenario. So what's like that kind of came

604
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 6: out of nowhere to lofty, which, like when we mentioned

605
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 6: it the other week, like when c. J. Stroud came

606
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 6: in for a preseason game like that was not impressive

607
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 6: at all, Like Paul and I were shocked that rookie

608
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 6: of the year. But what would be the second hope,

609
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 6: like the goal? Second goal? If you're not gonna be

610
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 6: the Texas Texan is the elite goal?

611
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 4: I mean, I I that will, I'd say you didn't

612
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 4: you don't make the playoffs.

613
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: How about the Chargers with better coaching?

614
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go.

615
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 2: You know I see that because I think, well, maybe

616
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: not now, but when they first started with Herbert, they

617
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 2: were underperformed and they hurt them, hurt them a little

618
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 2: or he didn't start.

619
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 6: Sorry it was Tyrod had the injection and then and

620
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 6: then Herbert and they.

621
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 4: Were saved for themselves. But that's like Fred's thing where yeah,

622
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 4: you know, he's like, you're going but.

623
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 2: I just threw that out there, But any others.

624
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 4: Like I'm trying think the rookie court, Like I mean,

625
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 4: I always go back to, you know, just bring it

626
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 4: to Patriots with Paul was ninety four, and you know,

627
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 4: just you win some games at the end of the

628
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 4: season and you don't make the playoffs, but you give

629
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 4: some of these teams that everyone wants to talk about

630
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 4: the good schedule. You give some of these good teams

631
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 4: a really hard time. And then you know, I think,

632
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 4: what is it Buffalo end of the season when he

633
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 4: playing like two and twice in three weeks, Like, I mean,

634
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 4: you put up a good showing in those two Buffalo games.

635
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 4: They've won the division a lot, you know, ever since

636
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 4: you wanted, they've been the division champs. So I think

637
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 4: that's an opportunity that lines up that you could say, hey, man,

638
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 4: you know, maybe you don't beat Buffalo in both those games,

639
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 4: but we beat him in one. It took the last

640
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 4: minute Josh Allen miracle drive in Buffalo at the end

641
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 4: and they needed to win, you know, And Drake May

642
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 4: went up there and the cold and man, he looked

643
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,479
Speaker 4: good and he was locked in. You know that. I mean,

644
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 4: that's another thing I feel like with Drake May is

645
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 4: I just I feel very likable guy, you know, and

646
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 4: I hate drawing comparison to Mac, but it was like,

647
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 4: you know that game in Buffalo with Mac, when that

648
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 4: playoff game, and I was like, and I remember Paul perfectly,

649
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 4: like Mac comes out, He's like, he looks cold. I'm like,

650
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 4: he sure does look cold.

651
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: You know, certainly that's people. That's a question on Mat

652
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 2: May too, because he really hasn't played in cold you know,

653
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: scuba suits.

654
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 4: But that's what that's what we need to see. Whereas

655
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 4: you know, when Matt came in similar, you know, they're like, man,

656
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 4: we got this Alabama kid, national champion, went to the

657
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 4: Senior Bowl, did two pro days to you know, work out.

658
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 4: He's competing. You know, he doesn't seem like a kid

659
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 4: who's who thinks that he's going to be handed to him.

660
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 4: And it started out great, but you know, then you

661
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 4: started to develop these little issues with him, like the

662
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 4: cold stuff and you know, some of the stick on

663
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 4: my foot up when I slide and oh I'm going

664
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 4: to take it down. You know, these little things that

665
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,239
Speaker 4: really bug the crap out of me. Like Drake May

666
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 4: doesn't have any of those things yet, and I hope

667
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 4: that he doesn't, but he's going to have issues. They're

668
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 4: going to be issues with Drake May that we have

669
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 4: to that he has to overcome him. It's every quarterback, right,

670
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 4: Like even Tom Brady.

671
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: Went through, like I said, issues that he's not going

672
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 2: to be lights out this year. But what I'm hoping

673
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: for is, yeah, he's going to eventually be good.

674
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 4: But I'd love to see him the comfortable in the

675
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 4: cold like, like just to bring it all back to that,

676
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 4: Like just to see him going to Buffalo and be like, yeah, man, this.

677
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: Doesn't seem like big one glove.

678
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 4: Just don't let it play here too, Like it's one

679
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 4: thing to look at too and be like, man, too,

680
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 4: is never gonna win Buffalo because but they play in Miami.

681
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 4: So like if it does work out and they get

682
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 4: home field, like maybe it will work out for them.

683
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 4: But if you're gonna play in New England, you're gonna

684
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 4: play against Buffalo, you're gonna be a cold weather team

685
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 4: and you're gonna have that personality, like you need the

686
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 4: quarterback that can manage that and fit that as much

687
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 4: as you know might be Remandre or you know, we

688
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 4: want to be a tough, physical run.

689
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: So a lot of times, you know, whatever the subject

690
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 2: matter we're talking about. There's someone listening. Yeah, so I'm

691
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 2: I'm appealing to our I T listeners. Okay, is there

692
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: a possibility that in our field house you could you

693
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: could have some type of machine that could mimic weather

694
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 2: conditions and I mean extreme like like zero degrees you know,

695
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: right up to high humidity in Miami, and you could

696
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: you could replicate those conditions. Uh so that you know,

697
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 2: when he gets there, it's not the first time.

698
00:29:59,400 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 4: I'm surprised.

699
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got the coach. There's a way to do.

700
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: I bet you and a leg, but I'll bet you

701
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: you could do it.

702
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 4: Would talk to Ernie about his weather machine. I think

703
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 4: that's what we've been under raps for a couple of years.

704
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, bring back around. Yeah, but you just.

705
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 4: Gotta I don't know. It's it's like it's one of

706
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 4: those things like playing in the cold. I just it's

707
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 4: you can either do it or you can't.

708
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 8: I hate it.

709
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 4: Read I have to.

710
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: Admit playing like my toes and fingers would literally hurt.

711
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: And that was the main thing. It wasn't like my

712
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: whole body. It was just my extremity. I just I

713
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: couldn't like grab I remember I broke every finger in

714
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 2: one hand on a cold day. God, Like, well, I

715
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: can see.

716
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 4: Why you don't like it.

717
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hated it, Yeah, I hated it.

718
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 4: Now that was the worst with football in the cold,

719
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 4: the hands and the toes and like even with like

720
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 4: like hockey which I played, and it was in you know,

721
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 4: an ice rink, but you have full gloves, full skates.

722
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 4: You are sweating your mood. Like we had a game

723
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 4: when I was in high school and Holderness, which had

724
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 4: no sides. You probably played there no sides on the rink,

725
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 4: and you know, and it was supposed to be a

726
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 4: really cold day and they were building it up like

727
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 4: you know, we gotta wear rubber gloves under your gloves

728
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 4: and you gotta put vaciline in your face here. And

729
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 4: then once you got in the game, like this isn't

730
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 4: at all.

731
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: But like a football game in like the forties, you

732
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 2: got that helmet.

733
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 4: It's all right, you get a finger bang on a helmet.

734
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: I think it's a lot better than it used to be. Like,

735
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: you know, back when I played, there was we were

736
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 2: barely out of leather helmets, you know, but now you

737
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 2: do have the gloves fields nobody wore gloves. Back then,

738
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: you didn't have any heat on the sideline. You know

739
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: that at least you could warm up while you weren't

740
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: in the game. You know, there's a lot of things

741
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 2: now that you know back in the old days they

742
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 2: didn't have. So maybe it's not as unbearable. But there

743
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 2: are certain games, you know, when it got.

744
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 4: A Buffalo game, like that's brutal.

745
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm thinking like there's not too many at Chicago.

746
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 6: Could be pretty cold at Buffalo, but then that Chargers

747
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 6: and Bill's game here.

748
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 4: Just for for Drake May to be the long term

749
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 4: solution here. I think part of like feeling the goodness.

750
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 4: I don't know if it'll come this year, maybe the

751
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 4: opportunity won't to rise, but I think we're going, like

752
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 4: I want to believe in Drake May and the cold

753
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 4: like that has to be a core belief, which with

754
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 4: mac Jones, I was never getting there with it.

755
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: It's not just cold and wind because I remember a

756
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 2: long time ago we were actually helping it might have

757
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: been EA developed their one of their football games, and

758
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: so I brought in Dante Scarnekia as a consultant, and

759
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: you know, we were looking at the weather algorithms, and

760
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: he said, the biggest one is wind. It's not precipitation, snow, rain,

761
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 2: it's wind. What's the wind? Like, that's that's a bigger

762
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: factor when you consider all the weather permutations. Yeah, yeah,

763
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 2: well that's.

764
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 4: When you don't let Mac throw the ball out.

765
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: I mean, Drake has a stronger arm, so maybe, well

766
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 2: that's it. You got to cut through that wind. You

767
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: got to you know, keep the trajectory down, you know,

768
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: the whole thing.

769
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 6: I'm not going to miss those Mac Jones floater passes,

770
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 6: just waiting for the safety to pick it off.

771
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: Every time. Every time I think of Mac Jones, I

772
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: think of that Colts game in Germany, in that play

773
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: where he just underthrew it by two layers and it

774
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 2: got picked off.

775
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 6: That winning beat on the field, and then you hear

776
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 6: the zappy channel and gets over me.

777
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 2: I feel like we left let down the whole world

778
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: of Patriots fan, not just Germany, but like all of Europe,

779
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: you know.

780
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 4: I mean I feel similarly, but it's still what an

781
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 4: awesome experience that was and the fans that came out

782
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 4: like the night, Like.

783
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: That's why I felt so bad. You want to give

784
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: him something, Yeah, I want to win for them, So

785
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 2: you know, okay, we gave them. Paul.

786
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 4: Paul was there, you know, CELERI.

787
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 2: We won four games, but one of them was Germany.

788
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: Will always have Germany.

789
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 6: You know, you would trade a Steelers game for that one.

790
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 2: You know.

791
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 6: I was watching the Euros and I was like, this

792
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 6: looks familiar. And they were playing in Frankfurt. They had

793
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 6: the roof closed this time and stuff. But what a

794
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 6: great stadium.

795
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: What's the Patriots fans? If you want to see Toyota's

796
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: best offers, including those not seen on TV, go to

797
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,920
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798
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,160
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799
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: Let's go back to Germany.

800
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 4: Well, they got They're going to Brazil, right, Kansas City Bay.

801
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 4: Do you think the Patriots will go back to Brazil

802
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 4: before they go back to Germany go to Brazil before?

803
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, I don't know. But

804
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 2: if they do, why not have a bud Light. It's

805
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 2: easy to drink, it's easy to enjoy. Bud Light, the

806
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: official beer sponsor of the New England Patriots.

807
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 4: Oh I bet they're going down for Paul right now.

808
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 4: Actually I got him o Khalik. That's the Bahamian beer

809
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 4: I remember from my spring break trip there.

810
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 2: And so he's in the Bahamas. He's in the Bahamas.

811
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 2: Is he at that place Atlantas Atlantis Atlantis? Because because

812
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: it looks Atlantis looks good. But there's a lot of kids,

813
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: right oh yeah, yeah, well you.

814
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 6: Got well get a video of Paul going down the

815
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 6: slide that goes under the shark tank.

816
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 4: Or oh yeah, uh no, he sent me a picture

817
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 4: because the drinking age eighteen down there. So they're excited

818
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 4: for TJ, who you know, free.

819
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 2: They were excited for his kids, so excited for our son.

820
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 4: To there's casino there.

821
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: I think I think it has everything.

822
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 4: Because when we went there, we got like I don't

823
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 4: know if you remember when you were in college, they

824
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 4: would like in like the mail room or whatever. They

825
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 4: would have like a go on spring break and then

826
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 4: be like a little thing with a bunch of little

827
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 4: pool tabs. And it was like, all right, what is

828
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 4: the cheapest place in Nasau? Because we were so we

829
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 4: went to this place called the Colony Club. That was

830
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 4: like first our flight was delayed. We got there like

831
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 4: two in the morning, like we still have to do orientation,

832
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 4: like what are we doing? Then we get to this

833
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 4: hotel and it was terrible. So we would just always

834
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 4: go over to Atlanta to just like walk.

835
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 6: Around people do you can just walk get a day

836
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 6: pass so people say the cheaper hotels and boat over.

837
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 2: I mean, like, no one's going to kick you out around.

838
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 6: The pool, right, No, probably buy like a day pass

839
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 6: or whatever. I did that in for golf. You just

840
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 6: like buy a all day pass to.

841
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 4: One of our other They got locked in their room,

842
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 4: like the doors broke and they were like just stuck

843
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 4: in the room. We couldn't get them out the Bahamas.

844
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 2: So Paul's down there with this whole family, their.

845
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 4: Whole extended family. I don't know if extended nuclear fan.

846
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 4: I think it's just the four just the foursome, the

847
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 4: fearsome forsome. And I think Evan's probably out on Martha's vineyard.

848
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 4: That's his spot.

849
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 2: Martha's in the vineyard and.

850
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 4: Out right, no, no, he thinks Jaws is overrated. Doesn't

851
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 4: hold off which has been on a tunnel I've been

852
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 4: taking Oh my god.

853
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 9: Uh yeah, So no, the guys are vacation, ain't getting

854
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 9: ready all right, about a five past five hundred is

855
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 9: the a stick and hotline web radio at patriots at

856
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 9: web Radio.

857
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: Patures dot com is the email address Jack and and

858
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 2: Arbus is a new studio. Looks awesome, but Fred looks

859
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: like he's gonna sink into that cushy chair like quicksand

860
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 2: these these aren't. These are just temp furniture. We're gonna

861
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: get leather, Ye, leather chair.

862
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 4: Do they have like a spot for a drink?

863
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: Maybe drink? Yeah, we should look at that foot rest. Yeah,

864
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 2: I mean we'll as we go along, we'll tweak it. Yeah.

865
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Speaker 4: Well, as I see the other podcast out there, I

866
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Speaker 4: do notice that these are the thing like this is

867
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 4: what everybody use this elbow in front of air well.

868
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: Now that you know, we don't need the headphones, you know,

869
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 2: so it's a little weird though.

870
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 4: I'm having trouble, like I feel like when the headphones

871
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 4: are on, you're locked, it can hear yourself, and it

872
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 4: just it almost feels as much you're listening to the show,

873
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 4: and this way, it just feels kind of like we're

874
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 4: sitting here having a conversation.

875
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: Well that's kind of it's supposed to. Yeah, we're supposed

876
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: to be Okay.

877
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 4: You said, I'm just you know, I feel I'm in

878
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 4: uncharted territory here. I'm in a chair.

879
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, but all right, Oh you know what I've Matt,

880
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: I forgot to order food? Right?

881
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 4: Where are we gonna put the sandwich?

882
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: Figure something out anyway, Matt writes in a different Matt,

883
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 2: I was watching some Drake May highlights and I was

884
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 2: wondering where you draw the line between fixing his form

885
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 2: and letting him play his natural style. This is where

886
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 2: we need Evan. It seems like he can make some

887
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,479
Speaker 2: really good throws on the run. So where do you say? Yeah,

888
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,479
Speaker 2: his form isn't almost perfect, but he's athletic and able

889
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: to put the ball where he wants, So let's focus

890
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 2: on getting him to make the right decisions instead of

891
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 2: tearing down his form completely. Is his form that bad?

892
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 4: I don't think it's that bad. I don't think it's

893
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 4: that bad.

894
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 2: I mean, isn't any worse than what mac Jones Wasn't

895
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: I didn't hear anyone complaining about mac Jones when he

896
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: came in. No.

897
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 4: I mean, I just think it's it's it's hard because

898
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 4: you pull one string out to try to adjust something

899
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 4: and then you screw it up. And so I think

900
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 4: for any like throwing coaches like, they're all very very care.

901
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: Sure if you have a reel of his interceptions at

902
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: North Carolina, I'm sure nine out of ten of those

903
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 2: something was going wrong with his footwork or whatever. And

904
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 2: that's but that's why you throw interceptions. I mean, you

905
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 2: know Brady back, you know when he was on a

906
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: back foot or bledsoe on a back foot, you more

907
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 2: tend to airball it and airmail it and you get

908
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 2: an interception. So if you just focus on his mistakes, yeah,

909
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 2: I'll bet you on every one of those mistakes there

910
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 2: was some technique that was off. But isn't that the

911
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: case with every quarterback?

912
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 4: I think so. And that's what one of the takeaways

913
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 4: I had when we did that. The Brady thring with

914
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 4: Josh was just how prepared he was snapped to snap

915
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 4: so so much of his mechanics were already ready to

916
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 4: go because he knew where he was going with the ball, like,

917
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 4: and it was all pre set. It wasn't you know,

918
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 4: harried or rushed. He always was so methodical that he

919
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 4: was able to put you know, I mean this is

920
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 4: there were so many times when Josh was just like, like,

921
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 4: look at the mechanics. It's just absolutely perfect. You know

922
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 4: because pre snap he canceled out this side of the

923
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 4: field and he's only working on this side, and it's

924
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 4: probably going to be this guy and you know, so

925
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 4: I think it's it's it's not to the question, but

926
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 4: it's mental.

927
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 8: You know.

928
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 4: It's as much as he starts to understand the game

929
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 4: more and understand the offense, I think it'll it'll help

930
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 4: his mechanics.

931
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 2: Tell you a quarterback whose mechanics to me looked great

932
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: was Garoppolo. Yeah, I mean he came in camping just

933
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 2: a I mean the way his release and you know, uh,

934
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: you know his front foot with the weight on the

935
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 2: front foot and you know, the spacing between his feet,

936
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: angle of his shoulders. To me, he looked like, you know,

937
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: really well, uh, coach quarterback. But he throw a lot

938
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 2: of interceptions in in practice. You know, it wasn't because

939
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 2: of technique, it was because of a peer. I mean,

940
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 2: I mean he had a much quicker release than Brady.

941
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: You know.

942
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, just stood out immediately he could. I mean

943
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 4: you could see why they liked him. But yeah, again

944
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 4: you talk about Drake May. It was like Jimmy Garoppolo

945
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 4: came in. You didn't know that he was going to

946
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 4: be an injury prone kind of guy that couldn't quite

947
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 4: solve the deal in the big ones, you know, but

948
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 4: wins a lot of games. But that's what his you know,

949
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 4: NFL quarterback personality is what Drake May is.

950
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 2: Going to be. He did not a fall. I can laugh,

951
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 2: but I think I think players should be coached on

952
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: how to fall. And I know in the martial arts

953
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: they yeah, they teach that how to how to you know,

954
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: roll your shoulder when you fall and don't put all

955
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 2: your weight on your shoulder and kind of absorb absorb

956
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 2: the blow of the fall. And I think I think

957
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 2: it's worthwhile learning that, you know, sure.

958
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 4: I mean I love when the guys get into the

959
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 4: leak rowle. I mean, Tip was the famous one of like, yeah,

960
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 4: I remember his kid being like he's into martial arts.

961
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: You know that.

962
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 4: But you know, these the guys start to get it,

963
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 4: like Brady getting into different things. You know, as these

964
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 4: guys start to find their path fighting, you know, different

965
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 4: training methods. But that's why I think you're totally right.

966
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like Judo is like, that's what it's.

967
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 2: Meant for, how to roll, how to fall and roll.

968
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 4: But even that, like I remember that first injury he

969
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 4: took against Miami right where he kind of felt like

970
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 4: this shoulder out no good.

971
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 2: And like, you know, even with concussions, I noticed some

972
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 2: guys when they fall, they lose control of their neck

973
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: and their head hits. But there's other guys they bowl

974
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 2: their neck and it stops them from hitting their head.

975
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 4: That's another thing with that that I've noticed with NFL guys,

976
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 4: Like they get in his rookies and then all of

977
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 4: a sudden, their neck just slowly like until you get

978
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 4: like Devin mccordy neck, right, that's like they just their

979
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 4: necks just expand and you understand why. But yeah, it's

980
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 4: one thing.

981
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: Let's see Anthony Wright say it's from Hampton, Virginia. If

982
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 2: somehow the scenario plays that Drake May has an okay

983
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: first season but nothing special. Also a college quarterback has

984
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: a transcendent season like Joe Burrow and we end up

985
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 2: with the number one pick. Would you rather stick with

986
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 2: May and trade the pick to keep building or select

987
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 2: a new quarterback. This is a part of why I'm

988
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 2: worried they don't play May enough. You need to know

989
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: who you have in order to make informed decisions on

990
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 2: the next draft. Worst case scenario is we barely play

991
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: May thinking he will figure it out later, and pass

992
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 2: up on a great quarterback in the draft next year

993
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: because we don't want to give up on an unknown.

994
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 2: It's a good question, because you know, you could say, well,

995
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 2: there's no good quarterbacks really coming out this year. Well,

996
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 2: when Joe Burrow the year before, he wasn't considered an

997
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: elite quarterback. It's only that last year at LSU where

998
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: he did it. That could happen with.

999
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 6: Somebody just say hypothetically. Shador goes off with, yeah.

1000
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 2: That could happen, and then you have the first pick.

1001
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 4: What do you do, Well, why does Drake May have

1002
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 4: a bad year? Like, why wasn't he good? Was he

1003
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 4: not protected? Was he you know, was did he not

1004
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 4: have a weapon? Yeah? You know, I think there it's

1005
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 4: unlikely that you're gonna come out of that scenario and say, well,

1006
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 4: everything was perflect. Let's just drike this kind of average.

1007
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 2: Let's say Drake May has a good year, good year,

1008
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: you know, and it's it's Joe Burrow it's Joe Burrow

1009
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 2: after that year in LSU. He's a national champion. You

1010
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 2: have the first pick. What do you do?

1011
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 4: No, I stick with Drake Man.

1012
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: Stick with Drake Man.

1013
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, yeah, I'd go I'd go with I mean,

1014
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 4: I mean, if you can point a direct line to

1015
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 4: the left tackle, I'd say just stick and take a

1016
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 4: lot of the tackles that are going to be top

1017
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,479
Speaker 4: five picks. If that's what you know, what you really

1018
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 4: think you need, make sure you give Drake May enough

1019
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 4: of a chance. He's just too athletically gifted. Like with Mac,

1020
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 4: I can move on early because he's not that athletically gifted,

1021
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 4: like he's he's a you know, a smart quarterback. And

1022
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 4: I mean he's you know, obviously an NFL quarterback. As

1023
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 4: Bill said, he can play in the league. I think

1024
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 4: at least be a backup. But I think Drake May's

1025
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 4: got too many traits to give up on him after

1026
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,959
Speaker 4: one year. So it would have to look really great

1027
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 4: around him, and he would just keep continually screwing up,

1028
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 4: making bad decisions. You know, it looked nothing like the

1029
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 4: player that we've seen, you know, pre glimpses of an Ota.

1030
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 6: Well then also if you if if Drake is decent

1031
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 6: and there's some all star quarterback, the amount of assets

1032
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 6: are going to get for that pick. I think it's

1033
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 6: just worth it to stick with Drake. You might be

1034
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 6: able to get that superstar number one receiver or you know,

1035
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 6: it's a good point defensive team around too many picks

1036
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 6: free agency too. Yeah, just think think about what the

1037
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 6: Bears are got. Think about what the Bears would have

1038
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 6: got if they wanted to keep fields and gave up

1039
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 6: the Caleb Williams. But if they would have gotten a

1040
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 6: franchise worth of picks.

1041
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're saying tank the season.

1042
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 6: I just don't think it ud be that good to

1043
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 6: give up that pick.

1044
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 4: I mean, it would have been a tackle in Roma Dunza,

1045
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 4: you know, like that's probably what they would have done.

1046
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: But what's wrong with that?

1047
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 10: No?

1048
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 4: I know, I mean'll see if KYLEB.

1049
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 6: Williams balls out. If he doesn't fall out, then yeah,

1050
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 6: might be worth it.

1051
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 4: But that's another thing. Like the schedule, Like are people

1052
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 4: saying Kaleb Williams and Chica is like is that a

1053
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 4: beast of Like? Like every team is pretty good right now?

1054
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 4: Like I just I just don't see like the schedules

1055
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 4: out there that are like, well that's a layup schedule.

1056
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 4: Like every team I think you could point to have,

1057
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 4: you know, some problems like this. It's a good time

1058
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 4: for the NFL right now. There's a lot of good

1059
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 4: young quarterback.

1060
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 6: The thing that annoys me about the Bears is that they

1061
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 6: were that Thursday night game away from their coach being fired. Like,

1062
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 6: you know, people get fields a lot of crap, but

1063
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 6: it wasn't that bad and the coaching. He was a

1064
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 6: similar situation to Mac Like the coaching wasn't that good?

1065
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 6: All right, you get rid of fields now. Now you

1066
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 6: got Kavi Willams. So it's all in the coach now

1067
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 6: because they made all the changes for their roster.

1068
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 4: So yeah, if it looks the same.

1069
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 2: Let's get to the phones. This is the first time

1070
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 2: we've done it with this headphone less.

1071
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 4: It's gonna block set up.

1072
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: So let's let's see what this sounds like. Patty's an agaa,

1073
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: what's up? Patty going on?

1074
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 10: Guys?

1075
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 7: Can you hear me? All right?

1076
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1077
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 4: Hey Patty?

1078
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 11: Hey, So Freddy, I am one behind you to me

1079
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 11: like like hello, I've gone on take it for what

1080
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 11: it's worth. So like I was on YouTube watching Alex

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00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 11: the show, and there's a few different comments are saying

1082
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 11: like Drake may should start week eight or week ten,

1083
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 11: will get killed if he starts week one. And my

1084
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 11: my whole point was if if is the offensive line sucks,

1085
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 11: what's the difference if these starts week one or week ten?

1086
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 11: At least if he starts week one, you get a

1087
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 11: whole full season with them, you know.

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00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 2: And I don't think you start in week one with

1089
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: a bad offensive line. It can't get worse than that, right,

1090
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 2: So anything else is going to be better for him? Yeah,

1091
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I don't want him to get hurt,

1092
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 2: but I don't think that's gonna you know, it can

1093
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: happen to anybody, you know.

1094
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 11: I mean, and to me, he's too athletics for you know,

1095
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 11: I think he's very elusive. He can run if he

1096
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 11: needs to pull it down and tuck the ball and

1097
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 11: take off. But the other thing, too is oh man,

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00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 11: I just I just lost my mind. Forget it, that's

1099
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 11: all I have.

1100
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 2: I'm behind you, okay, Joe, I'll see.

1101
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 11: Well, let's let the kid get in there and do some.

1102
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 2: Damage, all right, Thanks, Patty, Let's go to Brad and

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00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 2: Ohio what's up, brad.

1104
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 12: Hi, how you gonna do today?

1105
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: Good? How are you.

1106
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 13: Good?

1107
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 7: Big good?

1108
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow Country.

1109
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 10: Talking to you?

1110
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 13: Yeah, right, farm Country.

1111
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 2: Right.

1112
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 7: So anyway, guys, I got some questions about the new

1113
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 7: receiver coach we got from Pittsburgh, which is the he

1114
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 7: the newest tradition right to our coaching staff Underwood.

1115
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, taikwan yeah.

1116
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 7: All right. So that being said, and with Troy.

1117
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 13: Brown getting demoted a little bit, and the fact that

1118
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 13: Pop Douglas really wasn't uh, I mean, so many passes

1119
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 13: he was open. When I looked back to his film

1120
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 13: at that Mac Jones didn't even.

1121
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 10: Look his direction.

1122
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 7: Given that and the fact we have better receivers that

1123
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 7: I believe we drafted this year, I think I had.

1124
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Speaker 13: An optimistic view of our team. I guess more them,

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Speaker 13: you know, most people, and I've been to Patriots fan

1126
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 13: quite some times, so I think if May plays that

1127
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 13: we can win seven, eight games, even more.

1128
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, that's I mean, I hope you're right. I

1129
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 2: mean that's to me, that's optimistic. Yeah, it's optimistic. I'm

1130
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 2: thrilled that they w eight. Yeah, if they won seven

1131
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 2: or eight games this year, I think Patriot Nation they would,

1132
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 2: They would sign up for that in a heartbeat, and

1133
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 2: they couldn't wait for twenty twenty five. It would be

1134
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 2: like the most anticipated offseason ever.

1135
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 12: Yeah, well I mean that.

1136
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 13: So would that be instead next year's draft?

1137
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 7: We got a lot of holes to fill, Like, that's.

1138
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: What I mean. Now, let's build, let's go.

1139
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, we need to tie end, we need to left tackle.

1140
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 7: I think defense is going to be a primary draft

1141
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 7: next year, really, And I think we should start May.

1142
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 13: Around the Miami game or you know, after the forty

1143
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 13: nine er game somewhere and there.

1144
00:48:58,520 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 7: I don't know what you guys think.

1145
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 2: Tell me why tell me why that game not week

1146
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: one or not later? Tell me why you picked that

1147
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 2: game simply because.

1148
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 12: Of the division game? Primarily? Okay, and so he already

1149
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 12: gets familiarity with and the division opponent within the season,

1150
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 12: and he starts building that kind of tenure he has

1151
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 12: with a division opponent as its number one opponent, opposed

1152
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 12: to a team that you know, we're not going to

1153
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 12: see all the time.

1154
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 10: If if that has any kind.

1155
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 2: Of to me, Yeah, and you know, thanks for the call, Brad,

1156
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 2: appreciate it. I don't think it makes a difference, you know,

1157
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 2: like if you're not going to start in week one,

1158
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 2: then again, why did you not start on week one?

1159
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 2: And you start him when he's ready, you know, and

1160
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: personally I think he's going to be ready week one,

1161
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 2: but like I wouldn't like to me it's it's just

1162
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 2: it's crazy to sit here now and say, yeah, I

1163
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 2: think week four is the right time, right, It doesn't

1164
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 2: make any sense if you're sitting him.

1165
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 6: I think you start him week eight against the Jets,

1166
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 6: just because the way the schedule builds out, you got

1167
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 6: the Texas at home week six, but then you don't

1168
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 6: want me to go from a home game right to

1169
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 6: playing in London.

1170
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 2: So I'd be like, if you're going to.

1171
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 6: Sit him or why are you sitting him that? If

1172
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 6: you're being cautious, which I don't know why you should

1173
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 6: be cautious, I'm with you.

1174
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 2: Are you cautious because of the offensive line?

1175
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 6: Offensive line, offensive line, just some of the some big

1176
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 6: games in the first half of the season.

1177
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 2: So you're saying, I want to see how our lines

1178
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 2: playing first before I throw him out there.

1179
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 6: I just I don't think you need to get his

1180
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 6: confidence killed if you're if he's getting out there and

1181
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 6: getting bludgeoned every game.

1182
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 2: That's that I.

1183
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 4: Mean, that's I mean, that's probably the core of the art.

1184
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: Maybe that's part of the support staff is to not

1185
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 2: let his confidence get low, is to keep him up

1186
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 2: even when he's not doing well.

1187
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 6: But I'm just looking at you're away at the Bengals

1188
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 6: week one, then you have Seattle, but then you're away

1189
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 6: at the Jets, away at the forty nine ers. It's

1190
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 6: just it's a tough stretch anyway.

1191
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 2: I Mean, some people say it's better to start a

1192
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 2: quarterback on the road, you know, because they're not feeling

1193
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 2: the pressure of the home fans and being in front

1194
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 2: of them, and you know, there's less noise during the week.

1195
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: You know, you're in the hotel, you know.

1196
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 4: I don't know, I know, there's just so much stock

1197
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 4: going into it. And I just come back to like

1198
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 4: put up or shut up, Like get in there, Yeah,

1199
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 4: play the game, start racking up.

1200
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 2: If it's gonna be great, You're gonna be great.

1201
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 4: You're gonna be great, You're gonna be great. You've got

1202
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 4: what four years, five years? I mean, just start the

1203
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 4: clock now, like start getting that experience. Start seeing how

1204
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 4: teams play, you know, and if they do. I mean,

1205
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 4: I just I just have a hard time imagining that

1206
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 4: they're gonna be so inept that he's just going to

1207
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 4: get killed. And I mean, and to be honest, like

1208
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 4: I keep my brain. I keep going back to like

1209
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,439
Speaker 4: Super Bowl forty two or the AFC Championship in Denver,

1210
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 4: when Brady was getting killed the whole game like that happens,

1211
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 4: Like it's not, Oh, our offensive line is great, Like

1212
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 4: everything's fine, Like there are games like that. So I

1213
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 4: just I have trouble seeing them as bad as they

1214
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 4: were last year, being completely inept and just cutting cutting

1215
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 4: guy free rushers every other play like that just doesn't

1216
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 4: that And like in that case, I get like, sure,

1217
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,479
Speaker 4: sit them, but that's not reality, Like like there's gonna

1218
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 4: be ups and downs, and no matter who's in there,

1219
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 4: and no matter who your offensive line is, it might

1220
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 4: be a little shaky at first. Like I think the

1221
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 4: way training camp goes now, with the amount of hitting

1222
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 4: that these guys do, the offensive line is always a

1223
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 4: little bit behind and it takes a while to gel.

1224
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: And the other thing that you know, the modern NFL

1225
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 2: has to contend with that the old NFL didn't is

1226
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: the money. You know, like Okay, you've got these quarterbacks

1227
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 2: and basically five year contracts, but the fifth year is

1228
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 2: an option year, right, you know, so you have a

1229
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 2: limited amount of time to know this guy's worth and

1230
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 2: you know, four years from now it could be eighty

1231
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 2: million dollars a year. Who knows. You need to find

1232
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 2: that out. So every season is precious, and then every

1233
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 2: game within the season is precious. You need that time

1234
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 2: to understand who you have, especially if.

1235
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 4: You're Elliott Wolfer, Jorromeo and like, you know, this is

1236
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,479
Speaker 4: their first opportunity as a you know, GM and head coach,

1237
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 4: Like what do they want? Like don't they want to

1238
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 4: find out so that if this isn't the case, that

1239
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,439
Speaker 4: they can quickly try to tack to something else rather

1240
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 4: than well, the whole first year we just kind of

1241
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 4: did Joe Kobe for sad and we didn't really learn

1242
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 4: anything about Drake and Nate. Like that just doesn't seem like.

1243
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 2: Sad to me. So I don't know, I listen, I'm

1244
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 2: sure there are coaches out there that still they feel that,

1245
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 2: you know, the guys need time because they think that

1246
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's rocket science. But like for a

1247
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,919
Speaker 2: great quarterback, it's not the game slows down for them.

1248
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 2: They understand it mentally. This isn't rocket science. It's just

1249
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 2: experience understanding the speed of the game, you know, because

1250
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 2: to me, that's the biggest difference. It's it's how fast

1251
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 2: the game goes and you have to be able to process.

1252
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: But once you figure that out, then now it's all

1253
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 2: your god given talent. If you've got it, you got it.

1254
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 4: Do you feel I feel like this conversation, like we're

1255
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 4: all I feel like this is a conversation going on

1256
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 4: a lot of places, but it feels like it's raised

1257
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 4: the stakes of training camp a little bit. That like

1258
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 4: we want to really want like the job.

1259
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 2: And you know, it's less practices, it's less practices with pads, preseasons,

1260
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 2: a joke, the games itself, you know, so like there's

1261
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 2: less time for coaches and scouts to evaluate. You got

1262
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 2: to get them in the game.

1263
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 4: And I mean and all that we've been talking about

1264
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 4: here for the first like forty five minutes, like that

1265
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 4: joint practice against the Eagles, like.

1266
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 2: One day, one day, one day.

1267
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 6: Also, I haven't been that decided for a practice in

1268
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 6: a while. Like usually the player, like you know, it's

1269
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 6: usually a three game.

1270
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 4: Are you legally allowed within fifty yards of a J.

1271
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 7: Brown?

1272
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 4: Or is that you still have to maintain.

1273
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 2: That's Chris Cassidy, That's that's you and you're running back.

1274
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 4: Now, raven thank you very much. Which is another like

1275
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 4: did you find like these moves happened in the off season?

1276
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 4: You know, we're so focused on the Patriots and then

1277
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 4: it's like I'm watching fl Network and then all of

1278
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 4: a sudden, it's like Derek Henry talking about his new

1279
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 4: teamates with the Ravens, and like, oh crap, you know

1280
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 4: he's going to be going to look scary, Like, yeah.

1281
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 2: I care for the all black, all black with the black. Yeah.

1282
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 4: But but again, he's a running back, So maybe this

1283
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 4: will be the year where it's like he just can't get.

1284
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 2: Out of there. I think, I know he's that's not

1285
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 2: the same as he used to be, But I think

1286
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 2: he's gonna have a year.

1287
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 4: There he'll chip on his shoulder.

1288
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 2: I mean, you want to know what Adrian Peterson had

1289
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 2: that one year where I forget, like everyone thought he

1290
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 2: was done and then he had that one year. I

1291
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 2: think that's gonna be Derrick Henry this year.

1292
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I watched a little of they're doing behind the

1293
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Speaker 4: scenes hard knocks right now for Giants for the Giants. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: And I always you develop opinions when you watch these

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Speaker 4: things and I'm like, yeah, it's not gonna work there,

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Speaker 4: Like that's my like watching Joe, Shane and Dabill do

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Speaker 4: their things behind scenes and this is all just like

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Speaker 4: after the season they're you know, talking about really the

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Speaker 4: decisions is keep sakwan or you know, finally find out

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Speaker 4: what's going on with Daniel Jones and if they really

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Speaker 4: have something.

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Speaker 6: But the Daniel Jones clip when he's like we could

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Speaker 6: have had Patrick Mahomes and the coaches, like I'm talking about.

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Speaker 4: No, I mean, I think it's pretty interesting. Like we're

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Speaker 4: so used to hard Knocks being training camp and this

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Speaker 4: is a little bit of the offseason and you see,

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Speaker 4: but it just cracks me up because it's like, at

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Speaker 4: the end of the day, it's the same thing that

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Speaker 4: we do, Like we don't just kind of sit around

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Speaker 4: and it's like the same kind of conversation.

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Speaker 2: They actually have the power.

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Speaker 4: They actually have the power.

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Speaker 2: They they have a little bit right information, they have more.

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Speaker 4: Information, but like the conversations are kind of just like,

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Speaker 4: you know what I don't know. I mean this year,

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Speaker 4: we gotta find out if he's the if Daniel Jones

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Speaker 4: is the guy, and we got to get him a weapon.

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Speaker 6: And it's like I just add him because they like

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Speaker 6: they're like the money is like on them, like, oh,

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Speaker 6: we did pay him.

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Speaker 4: This much money, right right, right right, But it's no,

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Speaker 4: it's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: I had to check that out. Well, it's heating up

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Speaker 2: sleep routine? Do they?

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Speaker 5: What's up, everybody, Maddie Here, let's listen to a snippet

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Speaker 16: When you were traded back here was that Halloween?

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Speaker 8: It was Halloween night. I remember being there.

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Speaker 16: This is a I mean, you want to talk about

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Speaker 16: where dad's you know, you remember going out trick or

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Speaker 16: treating with your kids. Okay's in the NFL. It's a

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Speaker 16: little bit different, but at the end of the day,

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Speaker 16: he's still a dad. You're traded back to Hey, we're

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Speaker 16: going back to the wingl This.

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Speaker 4: Is great tell us.

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Speaker 17: So I remember leaving the facilities in San Francisco that

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Speaker 17: day and I was like, all right, see tomorrow, Kyle,

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Speaker 17: see tomorrow. And I think might have been the day

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Speaker 17: before Halloween because we had to go get the costume.

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Speaker 17: And so I got home, took my son to like

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Speaker 17: the Spirit Halloween store, get his costume, get to the

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Speaker 17: checkout line, get to the car, and Kyle calls me

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Speaker 17: back and he's like, Hey, we're going to trade you

1382
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 17: back to New England, and I was like, what He's like, Yeah,

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00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 17: they offered to trade us Jimmy, and as part of

1384
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Speaker 17: the deal, like they need a backup quarterback, so like,

1385
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Speaker 17: you know, we're going to trade you back to New England.

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Speaker 17: And I just remember being in shock because you know,

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Speaker 17: I thought I'd seen it all at that point, but

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Speaker 17: I'd never been a part of a trade. And the

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Speaker 17: way it worked out, it wasn't like they agreed to

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Speaker 17: release me and I could sign here and because of

1391
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 17: comp picks and things like that. But I remember having

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Speaker 17: to like go home and like break that to my

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Speaker 17: wife because we had moved, but we had never moved

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Speaker 17: in the middle of this season, and I was like,

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Speaker 17: all right, so I'm gonna have to go to New

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Speaker 17: England on Tuesday night. And then I remember it was

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Speaker 17: the bye week here, so I practiced, stayed an extra day,

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Speaker 17: met with Jerry Shaplinsky, who was the quarterback coach, met

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Speaker 17: with Josh a little bit, all the players went to

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Speaker 17: their you know, whatever they were doing for.

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Speaker 8: The bye week. I flew back to California.

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Speaker 17: We got the biggest suitcase I could because by the way,

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Speaker 17: Bill's like, hey, we're playing in Mexico City.

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Speaker 4: In two weeks.

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Speaker 8: So I hope you have a passport and did you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I did, And so.

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Speaker 17: I packed as much stuff as I could, took the

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Speaker 17: red Is on Saturday night, came home or came here Sunday,

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Speaker 17: landed Sunday morning, went and saw three different houses, picked one,

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Speaker 17: went to her to school, end up being the school

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Speaker 17: that my kids still go to this day. And you know,

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Speaker 17: it was a whirlwind, you know week. But that's I mean, look,

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Speaker 17: like I said, I know that we're privileged. This is

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Speaker 17: the NFL, so not comparing it to other people's situations,

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Speaker 17: but that was a week that took a huge toll

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Speaker 17: in my family and my wife and and you know,

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Speaker 17: I couldn't have done the career that I had without her.

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Speaker 8: And her support.

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Speaker 17: And thankfully we were you know, we met when we

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Speaker 17: were in high school, so we had a strong foundation

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Speaker 17: and and you know, but in a way it made

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Speaker 17: our kids, you know, kind of mature and deal. And

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Speaker 17: so my son, we went out to Vegas last year

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Speaker 17: and he goes to baseball practice with a bunch of kids.

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Speaker 17: If he doesn't know, and by the end they're all

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Speaker 17: laughing and he's he's immediately so he knows how to adapt,

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Speaker 17: and so there's positives and negatives.

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Speaker 8: To all all sides of it.

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Speaker 4: Did you get to trick or treat?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 17: No, Well, I remember being like waiting for the deal

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Speaker 17: to be worked out, and Bill calls me.

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Speaker 8: He's like, look, are are you gonna get here or what?

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01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 8: And I'm like, Bill, I'm just waiting for like the

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Speaker 8: airline ticket. I got a bag back in my car.

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Speaker 17: I was at the kids like Halloween party at school,

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Speaker 17: and I'm like, I'm just waiting for like the ticket.

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Speaker 2: That's all.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to ask you the question about the

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Speaker 3: Eagles Super Bowl in seventeen.

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Speaker 8: We'll gloss over that not only anyone knows anyways.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so in twenty eighteen, obviously you're part of your

1443
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 3: championship season for you. I want to go before that

1444
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 3: to the Kansas City game, in the AFC Championship game

1445
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 3: and just what it was like because for Matt and I,

1446
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Speaker 3: you know, again, there's you know, that same thing of

1447
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 3: us being around. Sure, we've both been around for all

1448
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 3: of these super Bowls, so we've gotten a chance that

1449
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Speaker 3: one stands out for us. That Kansas City AFC Championship

1450
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 3: game was one of the greatest games that I've seen,

1451
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 3: and I just want to know what it was like

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Speaker 3: from your perspective watching that overtime drive.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that. I think that's my favorite game

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Speaker 8: as a Patriot ever.

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Speaker 4: Love to hear that, because.

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Speaker 17: In a way, looking back, that really was the Super

1457
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Speaker 17: Bowl in my in my opinion, I know, we had

1458
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 17: to go the next week and beat the Rams, and

1459
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 17: the defense played an incredible game, but to go into

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Speaker 17: Kansas City, it's like, you know, minus five degrees, no

1461
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 17: one's given us a chance to win. And the effort

1462
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Speaker 17: that everybody put in that week to that game to

1463
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Speaker 17: then get, like you said, get to this overtime win,

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Speaker 17: I think, and you see it on our faces running

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01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 17: on the field. I think it was kind of a true,

1466
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Speaker 17: like we're getting goosebumps talking about it, like a true

1467
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 17: like us against the world moment. No one was there

1468
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 17: to support us other than the guys on that sideline.

1469
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 17: No one in the everyone in the stands, you know,

1470
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 17: wanted us to lose. Really, everybody kind of wanted this

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Speaker 17: changing of the guard. Here's Mahomes, you know they're gonna

1472
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Speaker 17: beat the Patriots, And it was kind of like against

1473
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 17: all odds type thing, and so fittingly comes down to

1474
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 17: this two minute drive where here's Tom and the famous

1475
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Speaker 17: you know Julian quote, you're too old at his age,

1476
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 17: and you know methodically drives us down and win with

1477
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Speaker 17: a touchdown. I mean, it's to me, it was like

1478
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 17: the ultimate team win. And when I always think of

1479
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Speaker 17: my time with the Patriots, it was always the best

1480
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 17: teams that I've been on. And I'm not just saying

1481
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 17: because we were the most talented or had the best

1482
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 17: coaching staff. I'm talking about the group of men that

1483
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 17: were in the room, and we were so close knit

1484
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 17: as a team. And like I said, I think you

1485
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 17: see that when you see on the field and I

1486
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 17: think it's I'm right behind Kyle van Noy and Tom's

1487
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 17: jumping into Kyle's arms, and it was like it was

1488
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 17: like this moment, like this is this is we have

1489
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 17: to go win the next week because this game was

1490
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 17: so important and so critical to that and the belief

1491
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 17: that it gave.

1492
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Speaker 8: I think everybody in that team.

1493
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Speaker 16: Look fortunately for the rules and everything like that coin

1494
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 16: toss you win, you know you're getting the ball as

1495
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 16: you're sitting there and you're seeing you know, the personnel,

1496
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 16: everything like that is there any doubt in your mind,

1497
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 16: you guys are going down and scoring.

1498
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 2: At that point in time, it.

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Speaker 17: Was kind of like a Remember, it was kind of

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01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 17: like a back and forth. You were just hoping you

1501
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 17: got the ball. And I think at that point it

1502
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 17: was like the thing that always I always looked back

1503
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 17: was they I couldn't imagine. I couldn't believe that they

1504
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 17: couldn't cover Julian because really we ran the same play

1505
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 17: from both sides, and we had this little motion and

1506
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 17: kind of and you were like when they when he

1507
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 17: hit those two plays, You're like, man, we're in the

1508
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 17: driver's seat. We just got to go and not make

1509
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 17: any mistakes. And you know we had I think we

1510
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 17: running with Rex.

1511
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 8: Yeah a touchdown.

1512
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so but three third and tens.

1513
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 2: Right, and.

1514
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 17: You know it was a play called China, and it

1515
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 17: meant like a shoot and an inn, the ch for

1516
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 17: shooting an inn and and I'm.

1517
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 8: Like, all right, well it worked once.

1518
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 17: And usually sometimes as a quarterback you kind of like

1519
01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 17: get to the point where like, all right, we just

1520
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 17: ran that play like there's no way it's going to

1521
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 17: work again. And you know that was just Tom basically,

1522
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 17: you know, dropping back seeing the coverage and here comes Julian.

1523
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 17: You know, several times I think, I don't know if

1524
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 17: Hogan had a great catch on that drive, but he

1525
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 17: had regulation was kind of a similar play. But clearly,

1526
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 17: you know, this is the greatness of Tom and Josh

1527
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 17: and all those guys working together.

1528
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 8: They were having trouble cover.

1529
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 17: In the middle of the field, and so just continue

1530
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 17: to expose it until they fix it. And you know

1531
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 17: they didn't fix it in time, and luckily for us,

1532
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 17: you know, I was able to take us down and

1533
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 17: win that game.

1534
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 16: So Paul brings up and I think a lot of

1535
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 16: Patriot fans would agree. Spoiled, Yes, first world problems.

1536
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 4: What's the best game?

1537
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 16: Interesting to hear that you say that, But you got

1538
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 16: to go when you got to beat the Rams in Atlanta,

1539
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 16: And I'm not sure that fans quite know the role

1540
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 16: that you played that week and your experience with McVeigh

1541
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,919
Speaker 16: and that system. Talk a little bit about what how

1542
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 16: you saw your role that week as getting ready to

1543
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:00,919
Speaker 16: play the Rams.

1544
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, as a backup quarterback, you always prepare

1545
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 8: to play. We talked about that earlier.

1546
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 17: But the reality is, like, you know, Tom's healthy. I mean,

1547
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 17: could something happen in the game, yes, but you know,

1548
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 17: for me, I always think like, how can I you know.

1549
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 8: Especially at this this.

1550
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 17: You know, the last game of the year, the Super Bowl,

1551
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 17: Like what am I going to do to contribute to

1552
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 17: the team to help them win? And because I was

1553
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 17: a veteran guy as a backup and had played in

1554
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 17: a lot of places, I always had great conversations with

1555
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 17: Devin and Jason and High Tower and Gilmore, and you know,

1556
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 17: when I would we would play a team that maybe

1557
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 17: was a system that I was in, and I'm running

1558
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 17: the scout team, I'm like, hey, listen, this is how

1559
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 17: they're teaching these quarterbacks.

1560
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 8: This is what they're looking at. And I'll never forget.

1561
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 17: Like get into the hotel in Atlanta, and you know,

1562
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 17: you practice a week before you travel, and I'm like,

1563
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 17: all right, some of these plays are similar to what

1564
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 17: I ran with Kyle, who obviously influenced Sean. And I remember,

1565
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 17: you know, being in the hotel room. I'm like, because

1566
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 17: you have to have an off day, even though you're

1567
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 17: traveling there for the super Bowl, it's an off day

1568
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 17: and you know your family's not there yet, and so

1569
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 17: you kind of hunker down in the hotel and I

1570
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 17: saw a thing on like Yahoo. It's like here's and

1571
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 17: it's like kind of they did like a hard Knock show,

1572
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 17: but it was on Amazon. And here's like some clips

1573
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 17: from the year that the Rams did, you know, miked

1574
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 17: up and and I'm listening to like the play calls

1575
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 17: that they have on these clips from training camp and

1576
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 17: I'm like, well, I know that play.

1577
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 8: I've run that play before.

1578
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 17: And as the week went on, I kept watching more

1579
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 17: and more of their film and being like, I know

1580
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 17: the offense that they're going to run, and having meetings

1581
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 17: with Bill and Map and was Matt still there or was.

1582
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 8: It flow flow Yeah, And and.

1583
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 17: Being like listen, I know, you know they don't really

1584
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 17: have an answer for this. They don't really have you know,

1585
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 17: if you bring this pressure, you know, they have to

1586
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 17: throw hot things like that, and you know, so I

1587
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 17: took a lot of pride in that. And one of

1588
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,439
Speaker 17: the like my prodest moments was after the Super Bowl

1589
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,439
Speaker 17: Devin and Jason kind of talking that to the media

1590
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 17: and being like we were on it. We we had

1591
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 17: a great feeling because Brian gave us a great look.

1592
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 17: He sat there and talked about, you know, their their

1593
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 17: offensive system and you know that was a way for

1594
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 17: me to feel like I actually contributed in some way

1595
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 17: because I never stepped on the field. But you know,

1596
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 17: you got to do whatever you can to help the

1597
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 17: team win. So you know, something that I was proud

1598
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 17: of and fortunate of having been in those systems. I

1599
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 17: could relate that.

1600
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 8: To those guys.

1601
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 18: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, oh no,

1602
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 18: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,

1603
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 18: everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx. Where

1604
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 18: now it's next for residential delivery.

1605
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 2: Only and now great moments in history.

1606
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 4: I have to be honest.

1607
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 3: He thoroughly confuses me almost every time he calls, like

1608
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 3: what what on the on the Monday?

1609
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 4: What like what Monday? Yesterday? Maybe a week for money

1610
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 4: that there's no official practice scheduled, but there might be

1611
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 4: a secret practice of some sort that we would.

1612
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 3: We will be live during the two Panthers Tuesday and

1613
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 3: wednes Tuesday and Wednesday, right like we always I mean

1614
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 3: since we started doing the joint practices, we've always right

1615
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:02,959
Speaker 3: done live during the joint practices.

1616
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:06,520
Speaker 2: Yep, right, yep. I don't know.

1617
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 4: It might be a me thing any any camp that

1618
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 4: we practice we go to we'll have a camp cast

1619
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 4: rap at very at.

1620
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 2: The very least, Paul gets very defensive when anyone asked him,

1621
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 2: are you going to be doing any work? It's very defensive, Well.

1622
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 4: We do lots of work, Like are you going to

1623
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 4: continue the camp cast? Is like, you know, no, we

1624
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 4: just had this year.

1625
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 3: We're gonna only only half a camp we're gonna do.

1626
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 4: We're not going to do the he knows, he knows

1627
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 4: we got him.

1628
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 2: That's another great moment from all right back here and

1629
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 2: Patriot's Unfiltered. It's Matist, Deuce and Me, Matt and Nabooth,

1630
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 2: new studio. Not one hundred percent yet. We're still waiting

1631
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 2: for the furniture coming the end of the week. We'll

1632
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 2: have some tweaks to the monitors behind us and a

1633
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 2: few other things. But you're getting a sense of what

1634
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 2: Patriots and Filter is gonna look like this year.

1635
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 4: Sixteen footballs.

1636
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 2: I think that's why we get the football's over there

1637
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 2: pretty nice. Yep. So very excited about the new setup.

1638
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:02,440
Speaker 2: Very comfortable.

1639
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:04,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, But I think the cool thing about it

1640
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 4: is that it's going to change a little bit.

1641
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 2: For Yeah, we'll we'll have different sets for different shows,

1642
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:10,600
Speaker 2: so it's very flexible.

1643
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1644
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're talking about camp. As you saw in

1645
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 2: the in the intro to the second half of the show,

1646
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 2: camp schedules already come out. So if you're thinking about

1647
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 2: coming down to Jillette to go to training camp, at

1648
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 2: least the first four days or out there.

1649
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, July twenty fourth, which is Wednesday, Thursday, July twenty fifth,

1650
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 6: and Friday, July twenty sixth for the first three sessions.

1651
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll be live. We'll be doing this show

1652
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:38,839
Speaker 2: live for each of those practices. I think the practice

1653
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 2: is going to be around eleven.

1654
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, morning, gates at ten, I think, right, a little

1655
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 6: later later than usually eight to ten. No, no, no, gates

1656
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 6: open it till the gates gates practice starts eleven.

1657
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 2: I thought you said eight no, no, no gates.

1658
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, gates your block, bring a hat, Yeah, you might

1659
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 4: even umbrella. It is hot there, but otherwise it's amazing.

1660
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so excited tomorrow. So they only published three days.

1661
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 6: No, no, those are just the first three days. All

1662
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 6: of them are up, so okay they want to go

1663
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,639
Speaker 6: through all of them. Yeah sure, yeah, we got things

1664
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 6: are subject to change, y copy to change. So then

1665
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 6: the next session is Sunday, July twenty eighth, Monday July

1666
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 6: twenty ninth, Tuesday July thirtieth. Then we got Thursday, August first,

1667
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 6: Friday August second, then we got Metallica if you want

1668
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 6: come check that out, Saturday August third, and then Monday

1669
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 6: August fifth, Tuesday August sixth, Patriots versus Panthers preseason August eighth,

1670
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 6: and then Monday August twelfth, and joint practice August thirteenth.

1671
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 2: We okay, we'll stop that. So the joint practice is

1672
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 2: the thirteenth with the Eagles two days after. Yeah, if

1673
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 2: there's one that you really want to see, that's the one, right.

1674
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 4: It's a good one. I mean, it's it'll be competitive.

1675
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 4: I mean, so much fun to watch. I was trying

1676
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 4: to remember all the different joint practices we've done, but

1677
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 4: those are the highlight of the of the preseason for sure,

1678
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 4: especially with a team like Philly. We did see a

1679
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 4: few years what was that twenty two, I guess, so.

1680
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 6: I'm a few years ago. Played them the opener last year,

1681
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 6: which is pretty close.

1682
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 4: Game familiar with those guys. But yeah, it's hard to

1683
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 4: believe it's camp's already here and all these like you know,

1684
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 4: it's like you're spinning your wheels and it's like, you know,

1685
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 4: you get like these points it's like, oh, man, I

1686
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 4: can't wait for the camp and like as soon as

1687
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 4: camp starts, we're gonna be like I can't wait.

1688
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 2: For getting it. I know, I know, you know, I'm

1689
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 2: I'm excited about the season two. But man, life goes

1690
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 2: too fast, it does, it really does. I think the

1691
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 2: older you get, the faster it goes. I think when

1692
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 2: you're a kid, like you think about people that are thirty,

1693
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 2: it's like I'll never be thirty, you know, like you

1694
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 2: can't even imagine that far into the future. And now

1695
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 2: it's like do you know what samore?

1696
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:39,680
Speaker 4: When you go by so fast, you notice that when

1697
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 4: you see other people and you're like, geez, he looks old.

1698
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 4: And then you're like, I look older too. But like

1699
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 4: I always when you see people your age and you

1700
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 4: haven't seen them in a while, and then you're like.

1701
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,680
Speaker 6: Oh my god, well I told I turned thirty one

1702
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 6: on Friday, and Chris Chrisopher upstairs, like I think he

1703
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 6: turned thirty. I was like I did a year ago.

1704
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:57,560
Speaker 6: It feels like yesterday.

1705
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:02,560
Speaker 2: Thirty was too fast. Like when you're a kid, you

1706
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 2: kind of live in every moment. You live for the moment,

1707
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 2: and when you're an adult, you're living for like your

1708
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:11,600
Speaker 2: next paycheck or like we you know our schedule and

1709
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 2: you know training camp. You're never living in the moment.

1710
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 2: That makes things go too fast.

1711
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, it does. I had a moment with my dad.

1712
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 4: We were just we were watching some of the Actually

1713
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 4: I showed him the Patriots all Access that they did

1714
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 4: from Brady Night to sum it up, and it was

1715
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 4: just sitting there and I was like, just like that,

1716
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 4: it's over. It was like Tom Brady man, this young

1717
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 4: kid and twenty years and it's like boom boom all

1718
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 4: and here we are watching him going to the Hall

1719
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 4: of Fame, Like it just feels like yesterday that I

1720
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:40,879
Speaker 4: don't know this kid Brady, I don't know, but Bledsoe's

1721
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 4: getting his job, Like it feels like that was yesterday.

1722
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 4: And I mean you were here for I mean, I

1723
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 4: can't even imagine what it was like to watch it

1724
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 4: go by live in front of your I mean, you know,

1725
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 4: granted we watching it on TV, but you know, to

1726
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 4: be so immersed in it like you were a Fred.

1727
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:54,680
Speaker 2: Like every day I have to figure out how to

1728
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 2: experience the metaverse so that we can experience all the

1729
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 2: different versions of our life life at the same time.

1730
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 2: And you know, it was pretty cool.

1731
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:04,600
Speaker 4: Fred, I mean you like, I mean I sudly about this,

1732
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 4: dude like you and Paulick. This is one of the

1733
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 4: greatest runs in sports history. Oh, you guys were in

1734
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 4: the thick of it. Like if you wanted to work

1735
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 4: in sports when you were a kid, like you couldn't

1736
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 4: have gotten a better draw, like to get to fall out.

1737
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 2: I've been to ten Super Bowls because I went to

1738
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 2: ninety six as well, but in that span to have

1739
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 2: gone to nine super Bowls, can you imagine if you

1740
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 2: were like.

1741
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 6: Covering the Jets in this time and also just seeing

1742
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 6: how big the Super Bowl's gotten since the first. It's

1743
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 6: always been big, but it's completely different now.

1744
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 2: Nine super Bowls, all those AFC championships.

1745
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 4: You would have been on like the crappiest team in

1746
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 4: the world last twenty years and be like, man, this

1747
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 4: is suck. Stuck with training camp, you think, don't make

1748
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 4: the playoffs. Now no playoffs this year, that's for sure.

1749
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 6: The thread of the brown just has the quarterback jersey right.

1750
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 4: And like having to like maybe to put it through

1751
01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 4: the lens of your job, Like every year you're trying

1752
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 4: to get like a new quarterback hype, like all right,

1753
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 4: this right's Baker Mayfield this year.

1754
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 6: Get it's like we're both going on season five now

1755
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 6: like we had six. You had the Brady training camp.

1756
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 6: Then my first training camp was the COVID training camp.

1757
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:17,759
Speaker 2: Then you get back and they're.

1758
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 6: Not allowed to sign autograph, so it's not really the

1759
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 6: same training camp you got mad. There's just so much

1760
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:23,879
Speaker 6: stuff has happened even just such a short period of time.

1761
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 2: Right right, every whole season was different, had a different

1762
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 2: reason why it sucked.

1763
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 4: But it must seem funny like now, like things that

1764
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 4: you complained about along the way when it's like, oh yeah, man,

1765
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 4: you could have been covering the Browns like oh, they're

1766
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 4: not gonna fly. We gotta we gotta fly right.

1767
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 2: To the super.

1768
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 6: I'll think about like the Jets the past couple of years,

1769
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 6: Like their training camp was at some Sunni school in.

1770
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 2: Upstate New York.

1771
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,640
Speaker 6: So I mean, like the content team just gets in

1772
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:55,600
Speaker 6: the dorms.

1773
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 2: With them, Like I just.

1774
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 4: They're lucky to get the dorms. You guys are in

1775
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 4: the hojos down the street.

1776
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 2: Just off topic a little bit.

1777
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 8: Uh.

1778
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 2: I know Matt Morell doesn't like Acolyte. I think it's

1779
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 2: been pretty good. I started it yet, all right, it's good.

1780
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 2: I heard good things.

1781
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 4: I got him. Hold on there, I go first. You

1782
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 4: want me to go first? Man, you go first, and.

1783
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 15: Make sure you guys can hear me, hear you. I

1784
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 15: like the lightsaber fights, I'll.

1785
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 4: Give you that.

1786
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:27,599
Speaker 2: No, but I think the storyline is getting pretty good,

1787
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 2: don't you. I'm up to like episode five or six.

1788
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:31,600
Speaker 15: I'm only four episodes in.

1789
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the fighting.

1790
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:37,680
Speaker 2: I know you didn't like the lesbian witch coven. What

1791
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 2: else is using the force? The Witch Coven, that's what

1792
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 2: they are.

1793
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 6: You know, like, I haven't watched my head but a lightsaber.

1794
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome.

1795
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 8: I think that stuff's really cool.

1796
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 4: That stuff is cool. And then anytime you're gonna kill

1797
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 4: like a teenager in the middle of the show, it's.

1798
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 2: Like, all right, yeah, I'm I'm digging it. And the

1799
01:16:54,600 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 2: boys the boy outrage outraging, out right now outrageous. I

1800
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 2: gotta get back in that episode two, You're.

1801
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 6: Like, wow, I just watched the last episode my girlfriend scene,

1802
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 6: what are you watching, like, literally, what, what the heck?

1803
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 2: Is this?

1804
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 10: Just?

1805
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 2: Uh more or less? Yeah? So those are the two

1806
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 2: things that I'm watching regularly now.

1807
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 4: Watch Hacks so much Hacks. I gotta throw my Hacks.

1808
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 4: And I haven't watched I have.

1809
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 2: Not watched Hacks. I don't even know what it is.

1810
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 2: You watch the new Beverly.

1811
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 4: Hills Smart It's a movie, right, I did watch that.

1812
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 2: I watch I watched the original one.

1813
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 4: Okay, what I love? Do you watch the new one?

1814
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 2: I need to watch the So what I love about

1815
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:31,799
Speaker 2: the new one.

1816
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 4: Is like they literally just took all the music. They

1817
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 4: just the same music. And I'm like, that's brilliant you

1818
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:39,640
Speaker 4: got you got all the same music. It's obviously the

1819
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 4: same setting. And it's a little detective show. Like it's great,

1820
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 4: and I'm like, Hills copy.

1821
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:48,440
Speaker 2: Exactly.

1822
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 4: I mean, is it hilarious?

1823
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 2: Right? But it's you want to be entertained to watch it?

1824
01:17:55,160 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 2: We watched it. Okay, did anyone see Biker Boys the

1825
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:04,679
Speaker 2: Bike Riders? That what it's called. I haven't seen Austin Hooper.

1826
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,640
Speaker 2: Huh yeah, I want to looked intriguing to me.

1827
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 6: I think I'm next for Twisters. That's gonna be the

1828
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 6: next Did you not.

1829
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 2: Like the original Twisters? No, not necessarily killing twister a twister?

1830
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:16,799
Speaker 2: Sorry Twister.

1831
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 4: Helen Hunt is Helen Hunt back? Did they get Helen Hunt?

1832
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 2: Helen Hunt, Helen Hunt, Kevin Bacon, Yeah, or no.

1833
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 4: Hudson, sorry Hudson.

1834
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 2: All right. You just just wanted to see what everyone's

1835
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 2: watching these days.

1836
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 4: I know, I feel like I finally have had a

1837
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 4: chance during vacation to watch a little Wimbledon, watch a

1838
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 4: little ketch up on some shows. Yeah, you know, and

1839
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:39,879
Speaker 4: then it's all going to go by the way side.

1840
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 2: And forget it.

1841
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 15: Lecellan Hunt is not in the.

1842
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 4: Cast, big miss, big miss.

1843
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 2: Her face will be in one of the Twisters.

1844
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 6: It's not like her long lost son leading it. Like,

1845
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 6: I think it's just a complete reboot, right, Yeah.

1846
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 4: Well there's a glad Eater too.

1847
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 2: I just saw that trailer looks and so it looks

1848
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:00,120
Speaker 2: like it's.

1849
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 4: The kids from the Gladiator one. I think I.

1850
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 2: Couldn't make it look like that.

1851
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:06,679
Speaker 6: Denzel looks awesome. It's gonna be dope.

1852
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 15: I like it's like a three minute forty watch the movie.

1853
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you know it's gonna be fred Did you

1854
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 2: see the.

1855
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 6: F one trailer, the F one trailer, Brad Pitt, it's

1856
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 6: he actually drives. Yes, it's being done by the guy

1857
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 6: who did Top Gun Maverick and it's coming out next

1858
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 6: summer and it's an F one thing. They filmed it

1859
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:33,639
Speaker 6: all like in the pit of Like it's all real stuff.

1860
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 2: Like F one is like getting bigger than NASCAR. Now

1861
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 2: I know it is worldwide, but in the United States

1862
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 2: it's getting bigger. That movie is gonna be awesome. Yeah,

1863
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 2: it's getting huge.

1864
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 4: Like is that one the one through like city streets

1865
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 4: in the europe Stadium.

1866
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 2: They did it in Vegas?

1867
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 4: Okay, I hope they do.

1868
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 2: I hope they do Vegas. I hope they do it

1869
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 2: in Boston.

1870
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 6: So they pave the roads like, oh my.

1871
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 2: God, going down the northf.

1872
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1873
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 6: But yeah, watch the F one trailer after the show.

1874
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'll let's get back to the phones.

1875
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 2: Eight five to five, Pats five hundred is the ACE

1876
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 2: ticket outline? Fidel's in Tampa. What's up, Fidel? Thanks for

1877
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:12,800
Speaker 2: holding on.

1878
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 10: Hey, how are you guys doing?

1879
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 2: We're doing good.

1880
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 8: Good.

1881
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 10: I have two quick things. I hate said serious back

1882
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 10: to football, but uh, the NFL's lawsuit came to an

1883
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 10: end about the biggest package.

1884
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:33,679
Speaker 2: Yes, yep, I think that happened last week I talked about.

1885
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 10: But I wanted to know, like, what do you think

1886
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 10: is going to happen? Is that's going to be?

1887
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 2: Like I think it's gonna be years, years of appeal

1888
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 2: of appeals. And I don't think that each team is

1889
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 2: going to have to pay four hundred and seventy seven

1890
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 2: million dollars.

1891
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 4: Oh really, because every day'd have to point it up.

1892
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't see that happening. The league has been

1893
01:20:55,920 --> 01:21:00,599
Speaker 2: very strong saying that it was a ridiculous finding. Take

1894
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 2: that for what it's worth. I just don't think that

1895
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 2: that settlement's gonna hold. There might be something else that

1896
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 2: gets settled, but this is gonna be years down the road.

1897
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 2: There's gonna be appeal after appeal after appeal.

1898
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 6: Wasn't every person's gonna get four thousand dollars or something?

1899
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 4: I want some money because this was me when I

1900
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 4: was in LA. But I get you got to buy

1901
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 4: the whole Sunday ticket. You couldn't just get Patriots games.

1902
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:22,599
Speaker 4: You had to buy the whole shebangs a lot.

1903
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 6: I think I think it's each person gets four thousand,

1904
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 6: So I.

1905
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 4: Don't know how I can get four thousand if I

1906
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 4: only paid like three hundred, but.

1907
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 2: I would have I would have I would have done more.

1908
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 4: I'll take four thousand.

1909
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. It's it's defining like

1910
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 2: four point seven billion or something like that. That's kind

1911
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:45,680
Speaker 2: of a ridiculous amount. Yeah, now what do you think, uh, Fidel.

1912
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 10: Well, I was more interested like the aspect of new

1913
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 10: rules and new players, like they would like lower the

1914
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 10: costs or be follows to the team. Like if I

1915
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:57,640
Speaker 10: could just pay one hundred bucks and be able to

1916
01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 10: watch the Patriots games, I would do it in a heart.

1917
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:05,240
Speaker 2: Beat, right Yeah, And like I'm not even I'm not

1918
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 2: I'm not up on the case. But what are they

1919
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 2: saying that the league did wrong?

1920
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 4: I think basically that you should be.

1921
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 2: Able to get what.

1922
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 10: Anti trust laws, anti having a monopoly or something specific.

1923
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 4: Okay, well, I think it was just basically related to

1924
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:26,719
Speaker 4: having to buy every team's game. So it was all

1925
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:28,600
Speaker 4: you had to buy the whole package. You couldn't just

1926
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 4: buy your team. That's all I know.

1927
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that to me, that was something extra that

1928
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 2: they were offering in your home market. You can still

1929
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 2: watch in your home market, you can still watch every

1930
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:42,680
Speaker 2: one of your team's games. Yep. That's I think historically

1931
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 2: how they've gotten around the anti trust rules is that

1932
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 2: they've always had in your market free TV for your

1933
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 2: your team's games, and that never stopped. So I'm just

1934
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 2: you know, like like Sunday ticket was like a bonus thing. Okay.

1935
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 2: In addition to that, if you want to pay, you

1936
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Speaker 2: can get all the games. Yeah.

1937
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Speaker 5: You know they're saying that they broke anti trust right,

1938
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Speaker 5: thank you.

1939
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Speaker 15: Broke anti trust laws.

1940
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 5: Sorry one second, got that because they inflated price and

1941
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 5: subscribers say that the league restricted competition by offering Sunday

1942
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 5: ticket on satellite only.

1943
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 4: Okay, well I literally I got direct TV just to

1944
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 4: get the Sunday ticket, like and put the satellite dish

1945
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Speaker 4: up and everything.

1946
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're moving on.

1947
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Speaker 4: I'm a fan.

1948
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

1949
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Speaker 10: And then one last thing. I love Matt editing all

1950
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Speaker 10: these new intros. Please get some of the retro ones

1951
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 10: in the ones that I missed the most were the

1952
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 10: ones that Paul telling the story about brother getting punched

1953
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 10: from the shower so much. I don't think I've heard

1954
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Speaker 10: that only like two years.

1955
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Speaker 2: He's making a note right now, his brother got punched

1956
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Speaker 2: in his father. Yeah, it's a great story. His father

1957
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 2: came in and was yelling at Paul. It was had

1958
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:01,720
Speaker 2: to do with alcohol, and his brother was taking a

1959
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 2: shower and like he said something snarky, you know, and

1960
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:08,719
Speaker 2: his father, right through the shower curtain, knocked them out

1961
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 2: in the shower. He said, my brother's lying nude in

1962
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 2: the shower, just Peter Griffin Lane. Yeah.

1963
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Speaker 4: So, oh man, that's a pall story for sure.

1964
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Speaker 2: I love all right, thanks for job.

1965
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 6: I think my dream NFL view and experience would be

1966
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 6: Red Zone. But you're able to pin your game in

1967
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 6: the corner because especially when the Pats were like in

1968
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 6: their heyday on red Zone, they're never on the TV

1969
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 6: because you're beating the Titans fifty nine to zero. So

1970
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 6: I'm always watching the game, but as a Pats fan,

1971
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 6: I want to be able to always be able to

1972
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 6: check in. I know this will never happen, but if

1973
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 6: you could pin your game and just have Scott Hansen

1974
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 6: through the rest of the Red Zone in the background,

1975
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Speaker 6: it'll be unbelievable.

1976
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 4: We kind of talked in the past, fread You've mentioned

1977
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 4: it of like why couldn't you just have like a

1978
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 4: subscription to your team's package, and it's not just your

1979
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 4: team's games, but it's all your team's content, and you

1980
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 4: have access to any NFL films, thing ever made about

1981
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 4: your team, and you know, like it's almost like you're

1982
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:58,519
Speaker 4: in a little bit of a club kind of thing

1983
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 4: and I kind of tailor it to you. Yeah, I

1984
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 4: don't know. I mean I get I get where the

1985
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 4: fans are coming from that just want to see their team.

1986
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 4: But at the same time, it's like the NFL, it's

1987
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:07,759
Speaker 4: this giant thing and.

1988
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 6: It's it's funny being on the website because you get

1989
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 6: the people in western mass who are in Massachusetts, but

1990
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 6: then they're getting Jets games because they're like right on

1991
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 6: the border.

1992
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 4: Like the Giants. Yeah, Connecticut, let me forget about it. Yeah,

1993
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:22,560
Speaker 4: Giants fans.

1994
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of rules in the NFL

1995
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 2: that are a little antiquated, and some of them were

1996
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,639
Speaker 2: made when you know, it was more important to sell

1997
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 2: out your stadium than it was to have a huge

1998
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 2: TV audience. Yeah, And a lot of the rules were

1999
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 2: to protect the home market. You know, for like there

2000
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 2: were days in New England where or in Massachusetts where

2001
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:45,640
Speaker 2: you had to go to New Hampshire to watch the

2002
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:48,879
Speaker 2: Patriots because of the blackout rule, which they don't have anymore.

2003
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,880
Speaker 2: But if you're if you're if your stadium wasn't sold

2004
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 2: out like I think within forty eight hours of the game,

2005
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 2: you couldn't show it on TV. So people would literally

2006
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 2: drive up to New Hampshire rent a motel room to

2007
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 2: watch the.

2008
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 4: Patriots instead of buying a ticket and going to the Yeah.

2009
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 2: I'm not going to that dump. Yeah, but that was

2010
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:12,800
Speaker 2: the thing they're trying to force people to buy tickets. Now,

2011
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 2: your your ticket revenue is just gravy. You make your

2012
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 2: money on everything else, you know, So a lot of

2013
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 2: some of the rules need to be changed, you know.

2014
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 2: Let's see web radio at patries dot com. Is the

2015
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 2: email address Alex in North Carolina. I'm with Matt on this.

2016
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 2: Lightsaber Fights were great. Acting as subparties talk about the

2017
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:38,519
Speaker 2: Acolyte story is average. I have much higher hopes for

2018
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 2: the show. It's it's fine.

2019
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 4: It's it's fine.

2020
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 2: Is it adult based like I know and or was?

2021
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:46,759
Speaker 2: It's a little bit more. I think that's what's weird.

2022
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 4: I think is that it in the initial episodes, it

2023
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 4: feels a little bit more kid Disney and then all

2024
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 4: of a sudden they have this giant fight and like

2025
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:55,799
Speaker 4: two main characters.

2026
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 15: It's like a CW show. That's exactly how it is.

2027
01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 15: It's a teenage show. It's more for like eighteen to

2028
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 15: twenty year olds.

2029
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe maybe. Yeah.

2030
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 6: The last Star Wars thing that stands out to me

2031
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:08,679
Speaker 6: was I think it was the Obi wan Lea running away.

2032
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the chase terrible. Oh that was that was awful.

2033
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:15,559
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, you get Disney. You can't make

2034
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:19,640
Speaker 2: that look more real. You know, she's like ducking on

2035
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:23,839
Speaker 2: the branches and they're like a branch, you know. Yeah,

2036
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 2: like that was that was terrible.

2037
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 4: I think the Mandalorian is is the gold standard of

2038
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 4: that in Rogue one of New Star.

2039
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 2: Wars, and but I kind of like that. I kind

2040
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 2: of like the whole backstory of Boba Fete. We were

2041
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 2: brought up by the Tuscan Raiders and all that. I

2042
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 2: thought that was pretty cool.

2043
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 4: I thought that was okay. I thought that one was okay.

2044
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 4: I felt a little bit like fan like over the

2045
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 4: I like, I love fan service in select moments, like

2046
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 4: I love in the beginning of Mandalorian where you heard

2047
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:53,799
Speaker 4: the very first episode you heard the carbon freezing chamber

2048
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 4: from Empire Strikes Back, and like I was like, oh

2049
01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:58,760
Speaker 4: my god, Like they know exactly what they're doing. Like

2050
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 4: I like those subtle hints, but like if it's going

2051
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 4: to be over the top and we're trying to connect

2052
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:05,599
Speaker 4: everything and you know, just to put stuff on for fans,

2053
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 4: then I don't know. I don't But that's why this

2054
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 4: new show, it's like it's all new, like it's there's

2055
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 4: you know, it's we're way before all those times, and so.

2056
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 2: So this is a hundred years before the first Star Wars.

2057
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 4: You're getting to see a little bit of that stuff.

2058
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 4: I don't know. I just I just wonder if and

2059
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:21,640
Speaker 4: I felt like this would happen once Disney took it

2060
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 4: that it's just too much like the Star Wars was

2061
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 4: good when it's a little bit you know, it's like

2062
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 4: show after show after show, and they're not all going

2063
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:30,839
Speaker 4: to be magical and cool. I think this one has moments,

2064
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:32,559
Speaker 4: and but I watched there's a couple episodes.

2065
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 2: I don't know, I thought it was pretty cool. Yeah,

2066
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 2: I think I'm I'm you know, eager to see the

2067
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 2: next episode. You know. Yeah, Ted's in Las Vegas. I

2068
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 2: just watched Danny Parkins on Fox's The Herd. He was

2069
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 2: filling in for Colin Coward. Uh Parkins, I guess it's.

2070
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 2: Parkins gave his top ten quarterbacks he would start a

2071
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:56,719
Speaker 2: team with. Number ten was Trevor Lawrence, but Parkins said

2072
01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:00,679
Speaker 2: Lawrence was a tough decision, and his first quarterback out

2073
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 2: of his top ten where Anthony Richardson and Drake May. Wow,

2074
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 2: so they were like eleven to twelve. Yeah, I guess.

2075
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:09,800
Speaker 2: So that's pretty crazy. That's that's really high because wasn't

2076
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 2: there some where's he got Kayla Williams poll On, John Dingles,

2077
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 2: the twitter that was going around that Drake May was

2078
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 2: the worst quarterback in the NFL. Oh jesus. Yeah.

2079
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:21,639
Speaker 6: The Anthony Richardson one is interesting because how many games

2080
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 6: you played, like three or four?

2081
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're pretty excited. Oh yeah, he's definitely the grass

2082
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 2: is greener, you know, because he's so athletic, right people,

2083
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 2: you know.

2084
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 4: Well, that's the funny thing about like what's it going

2085
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 4: to take to have positive things? Like I don't know,

2086
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 4: maybe he plays like two great games and then it's

2087
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:35,760
Speaker 4: lost for the year and then you're like we got him,

2088
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 4: like wet like you know, you don't know, like what

2089
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 4: you don't know?

2090
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:45,599
Speaker 2: So he's amazing. The Colts might be like the you know,

2091
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,040
Speaker 2: the Cinderella of a lot of people.

2092
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:52,759
Speaker 6: The Cinderella potentially could have pulled a Texans, I know division,

2093
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:54,720
Speaker 6: but I was I remember being like, oh, we get

2094
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 6: to watch Anthony Richardson in Germany and get Gardner minshew, yeah, yeah,

2095
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 6: we'll get to see him.

2096
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:02,559
Speaker 2: They could be the sleeper. There's a scene like all these.

2097
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 4: Guys though, it just goes back to there's a lot

2098
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 4: of good young quarterbacks and I'm like, off the top

2099
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:08,160
Speaker 4: of my head trying to think of which teams right

2100
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:11,880
Speaker 4: now don't have a promising young quarterback. Like I mean,

2101
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 4: they're obviously the Giants, the Giants, you know, like that.

2102
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 6: Think about the Jets, you think about the Panthers. Like

2103
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 6: with Bryce, like is he going to bounce back? Like

2104
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:20,880
Speaker 6: you forget about him?

2105
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:22,800
Speaker 4: There's a great one. That's a great one, like no

2106
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:24,800
Speaker 4: one's afraid of Carolina, but like he is the first

2107
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:27,000
Speaker 4: overall pick from last year. So I don't know, it's

2108
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 4: just it's it's you said, maybe I'm just going back

2109
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:32,000
Speaker 4: to the days when it's like all right, if we're

2110
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:35,680
Speaker 4: not playing Philip Rivers, Peyton Manning or you know, like

2111
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:37,479
Speaker 4: one of those guys like I don't care like but

2112
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:40,599
Speaker 4: now it's like every single quarterback almost around the league,

2113
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 4: except for a handful of teams, has some kind of promise.

2114
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:45,719
Speaker 4: I mean, you said Aaron Rodgers that he's definitely not young,

2115
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:47,000
Speaker 4: but like he's good.

2116
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:49,679
Speaker 2: But you know, I'm saying because it's not young, yeah.

2117
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 4: You know, but and I don't want to say like

2118
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 4: teams that they believe in their quarterback because I don't

2119
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 4: know if these teams do believe in their quarterback. But

2120
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:58,640
Speaker 4: you know, it's like Atlanta, the Giants, Like there's just

2121
01:30:58,680 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 4: a handful of teams that.

2122
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 6: I mean, the only teams that don't scare are like

2123
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 6: the Broncos and maybe the Raiders, a good one, like

2124
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:07,479
Speaker 6: the Raiders. Who's even is a minshew the Raiders.

2125
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:11,679
Speaker 4: That's well it would probably be the last year. O'Connor.

2126
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, O'Connell. Yeah, those those are two.

2127
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 4: That's a good one.

2128
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:17,559
Speaker 2: But other than that, everybody's like.

2129
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 4: Got somebody young that they're still waiting to find out

2130
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 4: there you're going to be good or not. I mean,

2131
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:25,080
Speaker 4: Richardson is a great example of you know a guy

2132
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 4: who seems like he could maybe change that dynamic in

2133
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:30,559
Speaker 4: the AFC South where everybody just seems like, after last year,

2134
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:31,679
Speaker 4: wants to hand it to Houston.

2135
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:32,599
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2136
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 2: Uh, Dan and Virginia and Michigan studio looks good. Those

2137
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 2: chairs look a bit too comfy, though. Where's the good

2138
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:42,560
Speaker 2: money in terms of betting which member of the podcast

2139
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:43,679
Speaker 2: falls asleep on air?

2140
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2141
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 4: Maybe, I don't know.

2142
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 2: Postgame show at a night game, man, you were good.

2143
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:52,760
Speaker 4: Well, we'll be in our other shares for that one,

2144
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:55,799
Speaker 4: that's true. It'll be like, well, there's only.

2145
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 2: What like one night game, maybe the morning game for

2146
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:00,679
Speaker 2: the the preseason.

2147
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 4: The preseason games are gonna be the hardest one. I

2148
01:32:03,080 --> 01:32:04,800
Speaker 4: can't wait for that preseason game. That was so fun

2149
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:07,360
Speaker 4: last year when we came in like early morning for

2150
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 4: the Germany game. We're kind of, you know, still jet lag,

2151
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:12,560
Speaker 4: a little out of it, but I mean it was

2152
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 4: the best part of that game was the pregame.

2153
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:17,439
Speaker 2: Matt played the interview with Brian Hoyer during the PEU halftime.

2154
01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:20,680
Speaker 2: They discussed the assist Hoyer gave the defense with his

2155
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:24,800
Speaker 2: experience with mcveigh's offenses given how thin the margin was

2156
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:28,599
Speaker 2: and how much the defense credited Hoyer's insights with helping

2157
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 2: them win. Do you think the Patriots still win that

2158
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:34,640
Speaker 2: game without Hoyer? Maybe not? Which which game is? What

2159
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:37,720
Speaker 2: are we doing? I don't know, McVeigh.

2160
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 4: So the Rams did the Hoyer help guide in here?

2161
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:42,479
Speaker 4: This part of it? I guess he got helped them

2162
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 4: get ready for I don't know. I think the story

2163
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 4: that that game was the defense and oh yeah the

2164
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 4: Rams couldn't do anything. But I mean, I guess I

2165
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:53,600
Speaker 4: guess that feeds into it. It's the same thing with

2166
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 4: what's uh, who's the guy that did Peyton Manning in

2167
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 4: two thousand and three? Same thing? Everybody gave him a

2168
01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:01,839
Speaker 4: ton of credit. One of the backup court, Damon Heward.

2169
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was actually a very smart quarterback.

2170
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 6: What what do you think Hoyer's future is? Is he

2171
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:10,840
Speaker 6: still on a team or like?

2172
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 2: No, No, he was.

2173
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 4: On Good Morning Football a little bit.

2174
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 2: I think you might see him around the team this preseason.

2175
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:20,800
Speaker 2: I don't want to give away anything.

2176
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:22,600
Speaker 6: But a player I didn't like on a team, But

2177
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:24,160
Speaker 6: I've grown to like him a little bit more. I

2178
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:25,840
Speaker 6: used to not be a fan of him, especially that

2179
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:27,160
Speaker 6: when he sliced.

2180
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:27,479
Speaker 2: Braid was it.

2181
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 6: Hoyerheads Hoyer, he just we went we were one and

2182
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:34,720
Speaker 6: two rules with him, just like it was like he's

2183
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:35,519
Speaker 6: a bad luck chron But.

2184
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 4: Hoyer had a good line that they picked up on

2185
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:41,559
Speaker 4: All Access right before they were waiting on the stage

2186
01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:44,840
Speaker 4: to go on before Brady, and he's like, man, his

2187
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:46,640
Speaker 4: real Hall of Fame induction is going to be like

2188
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 4: nothing compared. It's gonna be like a letdown compared to this.

2189
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 2: I agree about that.

2190
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 6: I just don't see it being as special.

2191
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:56,639
Speaker 2: Well, plus, it's not just him, Yeah, you know, feel

2192
01:33:56,680 --> 01:34:01,240
Speaker 2: bad for people. I don't know. I guess I'm being

2193
01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 2: a little sacrilegious here, but I really find those canton

2194
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 2: ceremonies boring, boring as hell. You know, Oh so and

2195
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:11,759
Speaker 2: so good up and he cried during his They all cry.

2196
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:15,640
Speaker 2: You know. It's the same speeches, it's the same message.

2197
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:19,400
Speaker 2: And it's great for them. Listen, I get it. It's

2198
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:23,000
Speaker 2: the highest individual honor in the NFL and all that,

2199
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:26,360
Speaker 2: and I'm happy for everyone that gets inducted, But as

2200
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 2: a as a an event, I find it boring. I'm sorry,

2201
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:30,880
Speaker 2: have you have you been? No?

2202
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 4: No, just watch on TV me too. I mean certain

2203
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:37,600
Speaker 4: players I like, I like to hear what they have

2204
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:38,720
Speaker 4: to say. I mean, I do think some of the

2205
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 4: speeches are pretty good. But yeah, I mean, that'll do

2206
01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:43,360
Speaker 4: a whole thing for that. I mean, I don't we

2207
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:44,240
Speaker 4: just kind of be there.

2208
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:46,320
Speaker 2: To observe and report, right, it's just not going to

2209
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:49,160
Speaker 2: be blow it out. We'll go and you know, there's

2210
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:53,000
Speaker 2: a party. You know, that's that's the thing. It's so

2211
01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:56,840
Speaker 2: funny because nowadays you get inducted to the Hall of

2212
01:34:56,880 --> 01:35:00,200
Speaker 2: Fame and you it's almost like you have to go

2213
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 2: on a fundraising tour to fund your party afterwards. It's

2214
01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:06,760
Speaker 2: like there's like a competition that like who can have

2215
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:10,800
Speaker 2: the best party after the after the the day. Let's

2216
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:12,280
Speaker 2: do it at Michael Rubin's house. Yeah.

2217
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 4: Well, if Bill doesn't get another job, they could be

2218
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 4: back to back years. You got could be big guys

2219
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:17,679
Speaker 4: going in.

2220
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:21,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll see what.

2221
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:25,120
Speaker 6: Will he be twenty eight Brady, it's.

2222
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:27,479
Speaker 2: Five years, five years, so this is one, No, this

2223
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 2: is two, so three years from now seven seven? Yeah,

2224
01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:37,840
Speaker 2: first ballot, right, Like, tell me in that room who's

2225
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:39,760
Speaker 2: not voting on the first ballot? I will punch him

2226
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 2: in the head, you know, because that would be ridiculous. Man,

2227
01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 2: you and your principals on one last spiteful move from

2228
01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:47,479
Speaker 2: good yeah.

2229
01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:48,920
Speaker 4: Just Bill Pollyon have a vote?

2230
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:53,240
Speaker 2: Yea somebody something like that, you know or somebody from Indianapolis?

2231
01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:57,559
Speaker 2: Was that guy? Is that Greg Doyle? Does he have

2232
01:35:57,560 --> 01:35:58,200
Speaker 2: a vote? Well?

2233
01:35:58,240 --> 01:35:59,760
Speaker 4: No, I mean he got nothing right now because he

2234
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:01,920
Speaker 4: had like some awkward interaction with Caitlyn Clark.

2235
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:10,280
Speaker 2: I guess right right, yeah, creep spiin Fresno. Tonality wise,

2236
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:13,439
Speaker 2: Evan's take on fruit is the most Eric thing about

2237
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 2: him so far, although for Eric the specific aversion would

2238
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:22,160
Speaker 2: be to eating meat while watching football and having a girlfriend. Anyway,

2239
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:25,960
Speaker 2: I love Jacoby Myers as a patriot, and in retrospect

2240
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:29,120
Speaker 2: his excommunication to Vegas seems like another nail in the

2241
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:32,640
Speaker 2: coffin of Bill's GMing. But at the same time I

2242
01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 2: thought Juju would be a slight upgrade, maybe replacing a

2243
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:38,719
Speaker 2: three with a two. Boy? Was I wrong? Looking back?

2244
01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 2: If we were to sneak into Bill's mind, which of

2245
01:36:41,240 --> 01:36:44,680
Speaker 2: the following reasons do you guess factored in most when

2246
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 2: he foolishly sent Jacoby packing that Meyers sided with Mac

2247
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 2: in the Mac versus Patricia conflict. The lateral to Chandler Jones,

2248
01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:58,120
Speaker 2: Jacoby's lack of touchdown receptions or being an undrafted free agent.

2249
01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:00,800
Speaker 2: I think number one. I think one. I think number one.

2250
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:03,880
Speaker 2: I think he wasn't he wasn't all in in the

2251
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:04,479
Speaker 2: locker room.

2252
01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:08,280
Speaker 6: I think the Myers thing was interesting too, because he

2253
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:12,360
Speaker 6: was great for us, but the franchise tag for receiver

2254
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:15,120
Speaker 6: is so ridiculous. You're not going to pay Jacoby Myers?

2255
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:18,000
Speaker 6: Was it thirty three billion? Like, no, it's a lot

2256
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:18,519
Speaker 6: for one year.

2257
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 4: No, that's not him, that's not him. I mean, I

2258
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:23,799
Speaker 4: do think. I mean, and I was right with speed,

2259
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 4: same thing like Evan two, Like all three of us

2260
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:29,760
Speaker 4: were all just like terrible take. We were wrong to

2261
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 4: ever think that Juju will replaced. But I mean the

2262
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:33,760
Speaker 4: thing I did say at the time, which I still

2263
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:35,760
Speaker 4: kind of think, is that I think he felt like

2264
01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 4: we need to get more explosive. And I know that's

2265
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:40,080
Speaker 4: a joke right now when you compare to Juju, but

2266
01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 4: I think that was probably some of the thinking too,

2267
01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:45,840
Speaker 4: was that we're not going to overextend ourselves for you know,

2268
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:48,720
Speaker 4: a guy who's certainly reliable to Mac, but you know,

2269
01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:51,640
Speaker 4: isn't a true game changer now, like I could have

2270
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:54,000
Speaker 4: a field day arguing against that now, but at the

2271
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:55,479
Speaker 4: time that was kind of my thinking.

2272
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:59,599
Speaker 6: My biggest disappointment is that that's an undrafted free agent

2273
01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:00,400
Speaker 6: who bought in.

2274
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:05,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's three year deal.

2275
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 6: He would have a three year I just how is

2276
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:10,240
Speaker 6: that not the guy that you want because of that?

2277
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:13,400
Speaker 2: Because of he went against Bill, and I think that's

2278
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:15,679
Speaker 2: probably one of the reasons Bill's not here. He spoke

2279
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:18,599
Speaker 2: out I want to boke out at least two times

2280
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:21,560
Speaker 2: that we know of, and if we know of two times,

2281
01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:23,880
Speaker 2: probably there's more that we don't know about.

2282
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:25,880
Speaker 6: What's also crazy because that's you're going against Bill. But

2283
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:28,320
Speaker 6: like when he scored his first touchdown, when Hoyer through it,

2284
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:30,720
Speaker 6: the whole like he was clearly loved in locker room,

2285
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:32,960
Speaker 6: the whole team ran to him like yeah, So it's

2286
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 6: just that's a frustrating thing to see.

2287
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:36,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is frustrating. And I mean Jacoby was a

2288
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:38,600
Speaker 4: great guy and I mean was again productive and the

2289
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:40,840
Speaker 4: Raiders with tomultuous season there.

2290
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:42,880
Speaker 2: Like a player. Yeah, completely different point.

2291
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:45,320
Speaker 4: Now, it's disappointing. I hear everything you say though about

2292
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:48,160
Speaker 4: the undrafted rookie who was there in the big moments

2293
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:50,720
Speaker 4: and you know all that stuff. It's just it's uh yeah,

2294
01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:53,160
Speaker 4: it's unfortunate. I'd love to still have him here. But again, like,

2295
01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 4: do you think Pop Douglas might be the better player

2296
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:55,719
Speaker 4: than Jacoby Myers?

2297
01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:59,479
Speaker 2: Like, they're very different. They're very different. I mean, you're

2298
01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:02,120
Speaker 2: not going to get the dynamic plays that we hope

2299
01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:04,160
Speaker 2: Pop Douglas is going to give us going forward. But

2300
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 2: he was reliable Myers. Oh yeah, he was reliable.

2301
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:07,639
Speaker 4: I would never.

2302
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 2: Flaw the break, but he was always there in the

2303
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 2: middle of few. Yeah. Yeah, and think about it, like

2304
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:15,360
Speaker 2: they were easy to defend back then. But still he

2305
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:17,680
Speaker 2: got his catches my one of my favorite things.

2306
01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:19,360
Speaker 6: But I think he said he wanted to come here

2307
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:21,800
Speaker 6: as an undrafted free agent because Nikhil Harry was a

2308
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:23,439
Speaker 6: first round pick and he wanted to prove that he

2309
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:25,920
Speaker 6: was just as good, if not better than the first round.

2310
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:26,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2311
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:29,800
Speaker 2: I like that. I like that swag. Love that. Yeah,

2312
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 2: Alex in North Carolina, Deuce. I've also been watching more

2313
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:37,360
Speaker 2: tennis this tournament. Alcaraz is ridiculous and Taylor Tyler. Fritz

2314
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:40,960
Speaker 2: is finding his footing. He is big win against Verev.

2315
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:43,520
Speaker 2: I would love to hear Fretz take about our American

2316
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:46,680
Speaker 2: tennis stars on men's and women's side, How good do

2317
01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:47,920
Speaker 2: you think they are? Well, we're not going to do

2318
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:49,800
Speaker 2: that here, but we can have a tennis show later on.

2319
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:51,040
Speaker 2: Did you watch Challengers?

2320
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:51,960
Speaker 8: No?

2321
01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:59,040
Speaker 2: Well sometimes, but I think Djokovic also showed hist So

2322
01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:04,320
Speaker 2: he's playing Runa. Uh his name is Runa, this kid,

2323
01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:08,559
Speaker 2: right his last name? No, he's uh from He's Dutch

2324
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:14,519
Speaker 2: something like that. So you know, he's young, he's you know,

2325
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:17,360
Speaker 2: good looking, you know, so the fans are sharing for

2326
01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:20,479
Speaker 2: him and they're going Runa, and Djokovic thought they were

2327
01:40:20,479 --> 01:40:22,800
Speaker 2: booing him, you know when he starts, you know, he

2328
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 2: said the whole thing after him, he's got the rabbit here,

2329
01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:27,200
Speaker 2: so like during this he's like what what what? They

2330
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:29,920
Speaker 2: weren't booing him? So then afterwards, you know, he's doing

2331
01:40:29,960 --> 01:40:32,000
Speaker 2: his on court interview and the guy's like, I hope

2332
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:35,160
Speaker 2: you understand that they were probably you know, Runic goes, no,

2333
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:37,840
Speaker 2: I don't accept that. I know when someone's booing they

2334
01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:40,200
Speaker 2: were booing me, Like, no, they weren't.

2335
01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:41,960
Speaker 4: And then he did like the violin thing, well that

2336
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:42,280
Speaker 4: was for.

2337
01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:43,559
Speaker 2: His kid who was taking violin.

2338
01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:45,880
Speaker 4: Lesson that thought he was like the smallest.

2339
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:49,240
Speaker 2: That was different. That was for his kid. But like

2340
01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 2: they were saying, runa like the good thing you weren't

2341
01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:56,840
Speaker 2: playing Bruski because they would have, you know, like he

2342
01:40:56,880 --> 01:40:58,599
Speaker 2: thought they were booing him. And he's such he's got

2343
01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:01,800
Speaker 2: such thin skin. The reason why people don't get behind

2344
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:04,720
Speaker 2: him is because he asked for people to get behind Like,

2345
01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:07,880
Speaker 2: you can't do that. It's got to be natural, Like,

2346
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:12,080
Speaker 2: you can't. You can't complain when people don't applaud for

2347
01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:14,479
Speaker 2: you more than your opponent. That's the worst thing you

2348
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 2: can do. Now they're you know, it's like begging for

2349
01:41:18,160 --> 01:41:24,360
Speaker 2: you know, uh, you know, please applause, yeah, please clap please.

2350
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:27,559
Speaker 2: So that was bad, like something like I don't want

2351
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:30,200
Speaker 2: to go like people be like Frank, stop talking about tennis.

2352
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:32,000
Speaker 2: All right, I will, but we'll do it at some

2353
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:35,000
Speaker 2: other point. But he has a football question, does Alex

2354
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:38,080
Speaker 2: uh If Bill was still here, do you think he

2355
01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:41,240
Speaker 2: would have drafted Drake May at three or would he

2356
01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:44,280
Speaker 2: have taken a different position Altogether? I'm torn as to

2357
01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:46,160
Speaker 2: what he would have done, But I do wonder if

2358
01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:48,080
Speaker 2: this is a quarterback he would have chose.

2359
01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:51,080
Speaker 4: I would I would lean no, I would lean no,

2360
01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:54,200
Speaker 4: and I I mean, I think I think a trade down.

2361
01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:56,160
Speaker 4: I think he would really be intrigued by Joe al

2362
01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 4: I think like a player like that, like.

2363
01:41:59,680 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 8: Player.

2364
01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:02,880
Speaker 2: Let's let's go back a little bit to the end

2365
01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:05,679
Speaker 2: of the season. They finished the same way they finished,

2366
01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:10,400
Speaker 2: but somehow, some way, they've got that post season meeting

2367
01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:14,400
Speaker 2: and Bill talks Robert Craft to say, here's the reasons

2368
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:17,720
Speaker 2: why things happen. Blah blah blah, let's take another run

2369
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:20,639
Speaker 2: at this, and he talks Robert Craft into doing it. Okay,

2370
01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:25,679
Speaker 2: so now that's your setting keeping Mac. No, no, no,

2371
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:29,040
Speaker 2: we don't know that yet, just to keep Bill. So

2372
01:42:29,439 --> 01:42:33,080
Speaker 2: Robert's been talked into keeping Bill. So now the off

2373
01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:35,200
Speaker 2: season goes as it has. You know, you got the

2374
01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:40,519
Speaker 2: same pick. Obviously. Does Bill look at this any differently?

2375
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:44,880
Speaker 2: And does he say, you know what I'm gonna We're

2376
01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:47,200
Speaker 2: done with Mac? You know, you think he would.

2377
01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:48,679
Speaker 4: I think he was telling with Mac. I think you would.

2378
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:50,160
Speaker 4: I think Kirk Cousins, I.

2379
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:52,760
Speaker 2: Think, so, you think he's done with Mac. But he

2380
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:56,000
Speaker 2: wouldn't have picked Drake. May I think he would have.

2381
01:42:57,680 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good one.

2382
01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:00,320
Speaker 10: I liked.

2383
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:02,160
Speaker 4: I think the JJ is not a bad idea either.

2384
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:03,760
Speaker 4: I mean, I could you know, I think he'd be

2385
01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:04,800
Speaker 4: trying to get him a little later.

2386
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:07,160
Speaker 6: Maybe I also want to stay real quick that less

2387
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:08,960
Speaker 6: like it's tough because we know the way the board dropped.

2388
01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:11,160
Speaker 6: But like remember people thought Panix was going round two

2389
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:13,960
Speaker 6: number eight, So it's just I think, I mean.

2390
01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:16,639
Speaker 2: No, the JJ McCarthy one is a good one because

2391
01:43:17,240 --> 01:43:20,599
Speaker 2: more nfl ready yeah, but see more of a pocket passer.

2392
01:43:20,840 --> 01:43:22,880
Speaker 4: But but I think Fred, if he's to talk Robert

2393
01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:25,160
Speaker 4: Craft into this, it's it's not a long term thing,

2394
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:27,760
Speaker 4: like I mean, you're this is it like you got

2395
01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:29,760
Speaker 4: one more year? And that's why I think they make

2396
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:32,160
Speaker 4: a push for Kirk Cousins. He gets a veteran quarterback,

2397
01:43:32,439 --> 01:43:35,000
Speaker 4: you know, maybe allows Bill O'Brien to round out his

2398
01:43:35,080 --> 01:43:38,240
Speaker 4: staff and and hire the guys that he wants and

2399
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:40,360
Speaker 4: then you know, go with Alt And I don't even

2400
01:43:40,360 --> 01:43:42,679
Speaker 4: know about the quarterback because if you get Kirk Cousins

2401
01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:44,439
Speaker 4: for a couple of years, what difference does it make?

2402
01:43:44,479 --> 01:43:47,960
Speaker 2: But they still what about all the signings? Do they

2403
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:51,960
Speaker 2: sign all these guys? No, that's they give Barber the deal?

2404
01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:54,920
Speaker 2: Do they give you know, Hunter, Henry and Stevenson?

2405
01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:57,439
Speaker 4: I could see un I think Hunter Henry I would

2406
01:43:57,479 --> 01:44:00,719
Speaker 4: say yes because there wasn't anything there. He loves tight ends.

2407
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:03,200
Speaker 4: I think that was an easy one to buy.

2408
01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:05,000
Speaker 2: All the guys on deep I can see to.

2409
01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:07,320
Speaker 4: I mean, I have a harder time with Barmore just

2410
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:08,799
Speaker 4: because big deal, and.

2411
01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:11,200
Speaker 6: You know, Barmore just stands his ground. I think the

2412
01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:13,719
Speaker 6: deal gets done, but just like a huge here's a question, Fred,

2413
01:44:14,920 --> 01:44:15,360
Speaker 6: is this.

2414
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:18,719
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick with the money or Elliott Wolf with the money?

2415
01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:20,479
Speaker 4: Like does it make a difference, Like you know what

2416
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like like it's Robert Craft's money. So like

2417
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:26,160
Speaker 4: with that contract, Like would Bill Belichick be like, I'm

2418
01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:28,800
Speaker 4: not gonna do that much, but Elliott Wolf says I

2419
01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:30,280
Speaker 4: will do that much? Or is it?

2420
01:44:30,640 --> 01:44:33,320
Speaker 2: Well, we got to go get it. A lot of

2421
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:37,559
Speaker 2: times Bill not spending money wasn't just because of the money.

2422
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:40,120
Speaker 2: It was because of the order of the locker room.

2423
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:43,439
Speaker 2: It's because if I give this guy this money, I

2424
01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:46,360
Speaker 2: disrupt the locker room. And I there's a pecking order

2425
01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:49,559
Speaker 2: that I think Bill always paid attention to who's making

2426
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:53,960
Speaker 2: the most at each position, who's making the most overall?

2427
01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:57,840
Speaker 2: And does that make sense to keep the locker room right?

2428
01:44:58,840 --> 01:45:00,680
Speaker 2: And I think a lot of times it wasn't just

2429
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:03,760
Speaker 2: too much money, it was who I'm paying that to.

2430
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:06,160
Speaker 4: We'll tie out to mc myers then, you know, which

2431
01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:08,240
Speaker 4: just kind of shows some of the wishy washy nature

2432
01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:09,960
Speaker 4: of how things kind of went at the end where

2433
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:12,040
Speaker 4: you didn't quite know what you were going to get.

2434
01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:14,880
Speaker 2: But this is like this exercise that we're doing right now,

2435
01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:18,680
Speaker 2: to me, tells us why Bill's not here anymore. All

2436
01:45:18,720 --> 01:45:22,040
Speaker 2: this complication, you know, So like if let's just say

2437
01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:24,479
Speaker 2: they had that meeting at the end and he talks

2438
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:27,439
Speaker 2: Robin into keeping him, there has to be conditions, right,

2439
01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:31,920
Speaker 2: so is one of the conditions that Elliott is more involved,

2440
01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:35,400
Speaker 2: Like you know, you don't have the pocketbook anymore, you're

2441
01:45:35,400 --> 01:45:37,320
Speaker 2: not making all the personnel decisions.

2442
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:41,000
Speaker 4: So but there's also like the fact that and I

2443
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:42,600
Speaker 4: don't know if Bill knew this, but it was in

2444
01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:43,920
Speaker 4: Girod's contract, right.

2445
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:46,880
Speaker 2: That so well that eventually like that have to be

2446
01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:47,840
Speaker 2: this year, so that.

2447
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:49,680
Speaker 4: Whole thing would continue to kind of hang over his

2448
01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:51,200
Speaker 4: head too, which makes men want do.

2449
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:53,200
Speaker 2: We get confirmed that it was in his contract, that

2450
01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:56,120
Speaker 2: that was true, that like someone of those things. Yeah,

2451
01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:57,679
Speaker 2: I know, So I don't know if that's.

2452
01:45:57,640 --> 01:45:58,320
Speaker 4: You make the jumps.

2453
01:45:58,680 --> 01:46:01,519
Speaker 6: But I think the interesting pick obviously the number three,

2454
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:03,040
Speaker 6: but I think that second round pick would have been

2455
01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:05,120
Speaker 6: I don't think it would have been Pulk if Bill.

2456
01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:08,200
Speaker 2: Was here, probably defense maybe or a tackle.

2457
01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:12,760
Speaker 4: Saf just a fourth round receiver Cooper de Gene, Well,

2458
01:46:13,120 --> 01:46:15,519
Speaker 4: that would have been no. But I think to Fred's

2459
01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:18,439
Speaker 4: point of conditions, like you have to address the offense.

2460
01:46:18,479 --> 01:46:21,600
Speaker 4: You cannot just buy a bunch of defensive guys in

2461
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:23,960
Speaker 4: free agency in the draft. Leg now we need to

2462
01:46:23,960 --> 01:46:24,519
Speaker 4: address this.

2463
01:46:24,520 --> 01:46:28,519
Speaker 2: There was too much to be done. It was time. Yeah,

2464
01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:31,360
Speaker 2: it was time. And I know, you know, the the

2465
01:46:31,400 --> 01:46:34,320
Speaker 2: billbots out there are you know, attacking me on Twitter

2466
01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:36,120
Speaker 2: now as we speak. But it was time.

2467
01:46:36,439 --> 01:46:36,799
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2468
01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:40,080
Speaker 2: As much as Bill did for this organization, I'll be

2469
01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:42,120
Speaker 2: forever grateful, it was time.

2470
01:46:42,840 --> 01:46:44,160
Speaker 4: It was a lot of things too. Is that this

2471
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:46,960
Speaker 4: was another one of the questions in the mail bag,

2472
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:49,160
Speaker 4: and it's like it's in so many of these points

2473
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:51,280
Speaker 4: that we talked about over the last five years of

2474
01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:54,519
Speaker 4: you know, why did it fall apart? And it's you know,

2475
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:55,919
Speaker 4: he's easy to put on missdraft.

2476
01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:57,960
Speaker 2: The real question is how did it stay together for

2477
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:01,479
Speaker 2: over twenty years? That's the real question. Yeah, yeah, that's

2478
01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:02,680
Speaker 2: the real question.

2479
01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:04,640
Speaker 4: Because I said, by the time you got to seventeen

2480
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:08,439
Speaker 4: eighteen nine, like those three years, the snowball was going

2481
01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:10,920
Speaker 4: down the mountain. Now it was getting bigger and bigger,

2482
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:14,479
Speaker 4: and the lack of talent and the coaching departures and then,

2483
01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:16,519
Speaker 4: you know, and I think what was just so jarring

2484
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:19,080
Speaker 4: to me was I just always felt like when we

2485
01:47:19,120 --> 01:47:21,080
Speaker 4: you know, we talked about these Brady Belichick stuff, that

2486
01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:23,599
Speaker 4: we could always at least count on a Bill Belichick

2487
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:26,479
Speaker 4: team to not beat themselves. You know, like that was

2488
01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:28,679
Speaker 4: just my baseline of like, as long as they're going

2489
01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:31,639
Speaker 4: to that's what our special sauces and that's what will

2490
01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:34,679
Speaker 4: make this place still special after Tom Brady. That will

2491
01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:37,439
Speaker 4: have a well prepared team that will have good game plans.

2492
01:47:37,600 --> 01:47:40,200
Speaker 4: They won't make stupid mistakes, they won't decide to throw

2493
01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:42,120
Speaker 4: a lateral in a tie game with the kind and

2494
01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:43,040
Speaker 4: that's where you end.

2495
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:46,799
Speaker 2: And that's where they end up. And then special teams you, okay,

2496
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:49,120
Speaker 2: everything else is terrible. Special teams is going to be

2497
01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:50,599
Speaker 2: good and terrible.

2498
01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:52,439
Speaker 4: Was That's great, That's a great point too.

2499
01:47:52,439 --> 01:47:54,360
Speaker 2: You know, what was going on so many.

2500
01:47:54,280 --> 01:47:55,920
Speaker 4: Of the things that if you would ask me in

2501
01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:58,000
Speaker 4: twenty twenty when we were talking about Bill and Tom

2502
01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:00,519
Speaker 4: and everyone's making fun of me for, you know, being

2503
01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:02,360
Speaker 4: you know, kind of like the same thing you're saying

2504
01:48:02,360 --> 01:48:04,280
Speaker 4: about Bill was how I felt where it was just time,

2505
01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:07,680
Speaker 4: you know. But now it's like you look back and

2506
01:48:07,720 --> 01:48:10,439
Speaker 4: it's like all the signs were there. But I just

2507
01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:13,559
Speaker 4: never would have expected that they would have fallen that

2508
01:48:13,720 --> 01:48:18,200
Speaker 4: badly with the simple football stuff, big decisions in the

2509
01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:20,400
Speaker 4: in the critical moments, and they just became a team

2510
01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:21,280
Speaker 4: that couldn't do that anymore.

2511
01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:26,000
Speaker 2: Eric writes in Let's see Where's he from? New Jersey,

2512
01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:29,120
Speaker 2: and he says, a few weeks ago, someone I think

2513
01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:31,719
Speaker 2: it was Spee wrote in asking how the crew would

2514
01:48:31,720 --> 01:48:35,000
Speaker 2: compare it to the Seinfeld characters. The gang entertained the

2515
01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:37,280
Speaker 2: game for a second, but then moved on, saying there

2516
01:48:37,320 --> 01:48:40,519
Speaker 2: wasn't a good fit. I disagree. The answer is simple.

2517
01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:45,440
Speaker 2: Fred is seinfelt, good natured and successful. Fred's immaturity Hides's rudeness.

2518
01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:48,360
Speaker 2: Of course, Fred's liability is the reason we all keep

2519
01:48:48,439 --> 01:48:51,320
Speaker 2: coming back. Fred provides a great setting for the other

2520
01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:55,960
Speaker 2: three odd balls. Paul is George Fred's Foyle. Paul is

2521
01:48:56,000 --> 01:48:58,720
Speaker 2: both hot headed and erotic. He has a lot of

2522
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:03,839
Speaker 2: useless information and is an underachiever. Most importantly, like George

2523
01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:06,719
Speaker 2: and Seinfeld, he is the true star of the show.

2524
01:49:07,640 --> 01:49:10,839
Speaker 2: Mike is Kramer. Mike has a lot of quirky stories

2525
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:13,960
Speaker 2: and perspectives. His grandpa knew Ted Williams. He once burned

2526
01:49:13,960 --> 01:49:17,559
Speaker 2: down his parents' cabin straight from a Seinfeld episode. That's true,

2527
01:49:17,880 --> 01:49:20,439
Speaker 2: And he once came on the show completely loopy from

2528
01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:23,439
Speaker 2: lack of sleep. Also, like Kramer, Mike tried to make

2529
01:49:23,479 --> 01:49:24,679
Speaker 2: it in Hollywood for a while.

2530
01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:27,679
Speaker 4: That's true. You told me I'm Kramer.

2531
01:49:27,920 --> 01:49:31,599
Speaker 2: Evan is Elaine. I would like to venture to guess

2532
01:49:31,640 --> 01:49:34,280
Speaker 2: he is the worst dancer in the group. Compared to

2533
01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:38,040
Speaker 2: Fred's other two sidekicks, he seems relatively sane. Also, he's

2534
01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:43,599
Speaker 2: the least masculine. That's pretty good. Pretty good at Eric

2535
01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:47,559
Speaker 2: from New Jersey. This character comp also dovetails with something

2536
01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:51,240
Speaker 2: Evan said two weeks ago that bumped me. Is that

2537
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:52,000
Speaker 2: a kid thing?

2538
01:49:52,320 --> 01:49:54,360
Speaker 4: He bumped me?

2539
01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:59,000
Speaker 2: Really? Okay? He thinks putting ikea furniture together is a

2540
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:03,439
Speaker 2: manly job and a worthy accomplishment. Putting I can't furniture

2541
01:50:03,479 --> 01:50:07,200
Speaker 2: together is legos for adults. Only one tool is required

2542
01:50:07,240 --> 01:50:09,679
Speaker 2: and that puny little allan wrench comes in the box.

2543
01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:14,800
Speaker 2: This activity requires no grit, strength of ingenuity. That Eric,

2544
01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:16,679
Speaker 2: that's a that's a damn good email.

2545
01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:18,639
Speaker 4: That's a damn good email.

2546
01:50:18,680 --> 01:50:20,720
Speaker 2: We didn't answer that because you weren't here. Yeah, we

2547
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:23,200
Speaker 2: needed your take. But speaking of that, I don't know

2548
01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:24,880
Speaker 2: if you guys ever got to this, but we were

2549
01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:28,439
Speaker 2: talking about mowing lawn. When your moa lawn, there's that

2550
01:50:28,600 --> 01:50:29,760
Speaker 2: sense of accomplishment.

2551
01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:30,000
Speaker 8: You know.

2552
01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:36,320
Speaker 2: A man Jason and Rocky Hill, Connecticut sends in a poem,

2553
01:50:35,760 --> 01:50:40,200
Speaker 2: uh about that. Yeah, this is a poem by Douglas

2554
01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 2: Mallock and he says the man who never had you

2555
01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:47,720
Speaker 2: got to say this in the Ted Baxter, you know,

2556
01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:51,840
Speaker 2: or the man who never had to toil to gain

2557
01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:54,800
Speaker 2: and farm his patch of soil, who never had to

2558
01:50:54,880 --> 01:50:57,920
Speaker 2: win his share of sun and sky and light and air,

2559
01:50:58,439 --> 01:51:01,599
Speaker 2: never became a manly man, but lived and died as

2560
01:51:01,640 --> 01:51:04,720
Speaker 2: he began. Oh so that's happened. I love it.

2561
01:51:04,960 --> 01:51:07,639
Speaker 4: Put it on my graystone. Well that was me, Fred,

2562
01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:09,559
Speaker 4: because I the last few days I've had a staycation,

2563
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:11,360
Speaker 4: which I haven't done in a while, and it's been amazing,

2564
01:51:11,360 --> 01:51:13,000
Speaker 4: but it's time to get stuff done around the house.

2565
01:51:13,040 --> 01:51:16,160
Speaker 4: And I did mulch along my walkway, like so this

2566
01:51:16,200 --> 01:51:16,919
Speaker 4: has been a progression.

2567
01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:18,680
Speaker 2: I did mulch around along.

2568
01:51:18,439 --> 01:51:20,000
Speaker 4: My walkway up to my front steps.

2569
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:23,960
Speaker 2: Okay, when we moved in, hold on black molt, brown molt,

2570
01:51:24,160 --> 01:51:27,200
Speaker 2: brown molt. The brown red didn't go with the cedar

2571
01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:29,760
Speaker 2: red one with the dark stuff. But when we first

2572
01:51:29,800 --> 01:51:32,439
Speaker 2: moved in, we had these old shrubs that were all

2573
01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:35,360
Speaker 2: they're kind of like not like pine trees, but kind

2574
01:51:35,360 --> 01:51:35,960
Speaker 2: of needles on it.

2575
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:37,800
Speaker 4: They're just gross. And they were like eight of them.

2576
01:51:37,800 --> 01:51:40,200
Speaker 4: They were all dead. They've been picked apart. So you know,

2577
01:51:40,240 --> 01:51:41,760
Speaker 4: over the last six months, I bought like a little

2578
01:51:41,800 --> 01:51:44,200
Speaker 4: chainsaw took those things just out like it didn't get

2579
01:51:44,240 --> 01:51:46,719
Speaker 4: a stuck grinder, did myself. The little chainsaw got it out.

2580
01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:48,559
Speaker 4: And then this weekend I put down, you know, a

2581
01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:51,000
Speaker 4: weed matt and put down my mulch. I did it

2582
01:51:51,040 --> 01:51:52,720
Speaker 4: before and after picture, and I was like, you know,

2583
01:51:52,760 --> 01:51:54,760
Speaker 4: and it's like it's so simple, Like I mean, I

2584
01:51:54,800 --> 01:51:56,840
Speaker 4: probably spent fifty bucks at home deep on mulch and

2585
01:51:57,160 --> 01:51:59,120
Speaker 4: weed covered, and I'm like, why do I wait this

2586
01:51:59,200 --> 01:52:02,200
Speaker 4: long to do it? But I just sat there and

2587
01:52:01,360 --> 01:52:03,479
Speaker 4: you know, and then I mowed my lawn two days

2588
01:52:03,479 --> 01:52:06,080
Speaker 4: ago and I'm like the mould lawn with the mults.

2589
01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:05,920
Speaker 13: And.

2590
01:52:07,640 --> 01:52:11,120
Speaker 2: Oh, I sure, I've taken the land and I've molded

2591
01:52:11,160 --> 01:52:12,599
Speaker 2: it to the shape that I want.

2592
01:52:13,120 --> 01:52:16,320
Speaker 4: You know, That's what I was doing. But another part

2593
01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:17,800
Speaker 4: of those we have that not weed. I always bring

2594
01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:19,360
Speaker 4: up that Japanese not weed, which is the.

2595
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:21,120
Speaker 2: Fight jape your weed.

2596
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:24,320
Speaker 4: It's this invasive species that's like all around and I

2597
01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:27,080
Speaker 4: notice it everywhere now, but it's a problem on.

2598
01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:29,640
Speaker 2: The cape with the invasive species. They're everywhere.

2599
01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:31,639
Speaker 4: I don't see the not weed as much, but it's

2600
01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:34,679
Speaker 4: it's kind of like bamboo and it just it shoots

2601
01:52:34,760 --> 01:52:35,920
Speaker 4: and it goes everywhere.

2602
01:52:35,960 --> 01:52:38,639
Speaker 2: And oh and it's got the green broad leaves. Oh yeah,

2603
01:52:38,640 --> 01:52:40,960
Speaker 2: they're everywhere. They're easy to knock down, but they just

2604
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:41,559
Speaker 2: keep coming.

2605
01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:44,479
Speaker 4: They just keep coming back, and it's, uh, it's an

2606
01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:47,640
Speaker 4: unending battle. Like the people who lived before us, I

2607
01:52:47,680 --> 01:52:49,799
Speaker 4: guess they planted it because back in like the seventies,

2608
01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:52,599
Speaker 4: it was like a groundcover thing. So it's uh. But

2609
01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:54,880
Speaker 4: like you're reading that poet, I'm like picturing myself like

2610
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:59,840
Speaker 4: hacking my struggle. Yeah, it's it's fun.

2611
01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:00,519
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2612
01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:03,280
Speaker 2: In the cape, there's a lot of invasive spec invasive

2613
01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:08,559
Speaker 2: species species, yeah species. Yeah. You get a lot of

2614
01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:10,599
Speaker 2: turtles that come up from the pond to lay their eggs.

2615
01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:12,960
Speaker 2: We got like four or five of the turtles.

2616
01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:15,920
Speaker 6: We have audubon like always uh blocking off their eggs

2617
01:53:15,960 --> 01:53:16,320
Speaker 6: and stuff.

2618
01:53:16,400 --> 01:53:18,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but and like within a day some animal came

2619
01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:20,479
Speaker 2: and digs them up and eats off. Yeah.

2620
01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:23,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, a little leathery turtle.

2621
01:53:23,479 --> 01:53:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. I would say, like, you know, if I was

2622
01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:27,360
Speaker 2: an animal, I think turtle eggs would be my go to.

2623
01:53:27,880 --> 01:53:29,120
Speaker 2: It would be sort of like chicken.

2624
01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:32,880
Speaker 6: Wings, isn't like when the turtles are hashed, they can

2625
01:53:33,200 --> 01:53:35,080
Speaker 6: have the free fall to the water, but you're not

2626
01:53:35,160 --> 01:53:37,920
Speaker 6: allowed as a human to like help them. It's like

2627
01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:40,320
Speaker 6: because we had it in our yard and you just

2628
01:53:40,360 --> 01:53:43,240
Speaker 6: have like twenty for all the birds.

2629
01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:44,640
Speaker 4: Are just going and yeah, I know, I know, all

2630
01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:46,439
Speaker 4: of a sudden, there's like they pop out one day.

2631
01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:50,240
Speaker 2: Remember my huge finely you can't touch it.

2632
01:53:50,240 --> 01:53:52,519
Speaker 4: I'll still snap you watch snap. You get the snapping

2633
01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:55,080
Speaker 4: turtles get you get your finger.

2634
01:53:56,080 --> 01:53:58,519
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, so a lot of snakes too.

2635
01:53:59,000 --> 01:54:00,160
Speaker 4: About the gardener Staing.

2636
01:54:00,200 --> 01:54:05,200
Speaker 2: Sunday ticket, Yeah, the House of the Dragon. Yeah, I tried.

2637
01:54:05,600 --> 01:54:08,519
Speaker 4: I tried, watched the first ten minutes of it. I'm like,

2638
01:54:08,520 --> 01:54:10,360
Speaker 4: I just don't care my issues.

2639
01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:12,599
Speaker 6: They're all the same name. I don't know who's who.

2640
01:54:12,760 --> 01:54:14,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just watching us.

2641
01:54:14,680 --> 01:54:14,840
Speaker 10: Well.

2642
01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:17,559
Speaker 2: Speaking of the shows, Pascal writes about Star Wars, the

2643
01:54:17,600 --> 01:54:20,639
Speaker 2: story was lacking in places where they should have understood

2644
01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:23,240
Speaker 2: the force better. No way a Sith or Jedi master

2645
01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:28,240
Speaker 2: wouldn't immediately recognize their apprentice's dark side in light side energy.

2646
01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:30,479
Speaker 4: Oh interesting, Okay, I haven't watched all the episodes. I

2647
01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:33,680
Speaker 4: think he's referring to some of that. Yeah, but uh, yeah,

2648
01:54:33,720 --> 01:54:34,720
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know.

2649
01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:37,120
Speaker 6: It's uh, just give me another movie. I'm done with

2650
01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:37,760
Speaker 6: the shows.

2651
01:54:38,320 --> 01:54:41,080
Speaker 2: Trent a couple of quick things. He says, as Fred

2652
01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:43,640
Speaker 2: would say, the way you do with five guys hot

2653
01:54:43,640 --> 01:54:47,720
Speaker 2: Dog is with Mustard relish, raw onion, bacon, jolapnos, and

2654
01:54:47,840 --> 01:54:51,720
Speaker 2: cheese profecto. That's much a lot, And Paul, you are wrong.

2655
01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:55,800
Speaker 2: Stevenson has made major impacts on games. He single handedly

2656
01:54:55,840 --> 01:54:57,960
Speaker 2: won the game in twenty twenty two for Vegas.

2657
01:55:00,880 --> 01:55:02,800
Speaker 4: All right, he did start it. He doesn't get enough

2658
01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:04,360
Speaker 4: craft for that, Like, I don't even know if anyone

2659
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:05,920
Speaker 4: asked him about it, like what were you thinking of there?

2660
01:55:05,920 --> 01:55:08,240
Speaker 6: I think he was thinking that the other two people

2661
01:55:08,280 --> 01:55:09,840
Speaker 6: were gonna let Jacoby.

2662
01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:12,920
Speaker 4: Was My favorite though, was like imagining Jacoby's of like, well,

2663
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:14,400
Speaker 4: we're doing it, we're doing it, Like like what did

2664
01:55:14,440 --> 01:55:16,360
Speaker 4: he think? Like it couldn't have been anything that was

2665
01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:18,400
Speaker 4: mentioned before that point, like reminder just went broke.

2666
01:55:18,520 --> 01:55:21,240
Speaker 6: They watched The Longest Yard the day before the schoolyard bs.

2667
01:55:21,440 --> 01:55:24,280
Speaker 6: It's almost like they thought they were losing such a

2668
01:55:24,320 --> 01:55:25,160
Speaker 6: tough sports day.

2669
01:55:25,480 --> 01:55:29,040
Speaker 2: It's just don't turn the ball over and the game

2670
01:55:29,240 --> 01:55:29,880
Speaker 2: keeps playing.

2671
01:55:29,960 --> 01:55:32,520
Speaker 6: And that's the difference is that the past the Patriots

2672
01:55:32,560 --> 01:55:33,440
Speaker 6: never used to do that stuff.

2673
01:55:33,560 --> 01:55:35,600
Speaker 4: I know, and if there was a team, Yeah, there

2674
01:55:35,640 --> 01:55:38,240
Speaker 4: was one clip that you could that sums up the

2675
01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:39,960
Speaker 4: decline of that team. It's that.

2676
01:55:40,080 --> 01:55:42,080
Speaker 6: But then it was also, wasn't that we uh the

2677
01:55:42,080 --> 01:55:45,560
Speaker 6: week one fumble against Miami? They did again against the Bengals.

2678
01:55:45,560 --> 01:55:47,760
Speaker 6: I think that's the same year. It's just, yeah, there's

2679
01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:48,400
Speaker 6: always something.

2680
01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:48,600
Speaker 8: No.

2681
01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:52,840
Speaker 2: There was on time Todd and Garner, North Carolina, if

2682
01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:55,720
Speaker 2: you are correct, and Bill was eyeing the money. Was

2683
01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:58,160
Speaker 2: he capped by Crafts to include his salary and the

2684
01:55:58,200 --> 01:56:01,240
Speaker 2: overall money paid out or is Bill trying to ensure

2685
01:56:01,560 --> 01:56:04,440
Speaker 2: that he just maintained a specific level to justify his

2686
01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:08,440
Speaker 2: own salary. Was always curious about how Bill's compensation affected

2687
01:56:08,760 --> 01:56:11,120
Speaker 2: or didn't affect the team. It's a good question.

2688
01:56:11,160 --> 01:56:11,880
Speaker 4: You've talked about that.

2689
01:56:11,920 --> 01:56:12,240
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2690
01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:13,840
Speaker 4: It just seems like a conflict of interest to me

2691
01:56:13,880 --> 01:56:15,760
Speaker 4: to like, well, any money you don't spend you get

2692
01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:18,040
Speaker 4: to you get, Like, yeah, it seems like.

2693
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:21,400
Speaker 2: It seems like it should have been separate. However, like

2694
01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:25,640
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if you know, Craft at some

2695
01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:29,320
Speaker 2: point said well, you know, I shouldn't have to have

2696
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:33,200
Speaker 2: the highest payroll in the NFL because I've got you sure,

2697
01:56:33,520 --> 01:56:36,440
Speaker 2: and I'm paying you as the highest coach in sports,

2698
01:56:37,800 --> 01:56:40,840
Speaker 2: you know, so that I don't have to have all

2699
01:56:40,880 --> 01:56:44,280
Speaker 2: that to me is why not have both? You know? So,

2700
01:56:44,440 --> 01:56:47,240
Speaker 2: like that's not a but it could you know, it

2701
01:56:47,240 --> 01:56:47,680
Speaker 2: could be.

2702
01:56:47,720 --> 01:56:50,320
Speaker 4: It's just weird to incentivize not spending money, you know,

2703
01:56:50,400 --> 01:56:52,280
Speaker 4: It's like I incentivize win out.

2704
01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:56,200
Speaker 2: It could affect the other coaches' salaries, Like you don't

2705
01:56:56,240 --> 01:57:00,240
Speaker 2: need to bring in all the high powered coordinators.

2706
01:56:59,560 --> 01:57:01,360
Speaker 4: That see and that I can see Bill.

2707
01:57:01,400 --> 01:57:03,360
Speaker 2: That's why I'm paying you.

2708
01:57:03,360 --> 01:57:06,360
Speaker 4: You know, I could see Bill advocating for that to yeah,

2709
01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:09,760
Speaker 4: you know, maintain the hierarchy. But again, that whole system

2710
01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:12,040
Speaker 4: fell apart to all these like you know, young coaches

2711
01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:15,520
Speaker 4: that you know you should have somehow nurtured and kept

2712
01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:17,560
Speaker 4: them here. All you know left.

2713
01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:19,800
Speaker 2: Well, tell you what didn't fall apart is the show

2714
01:57:19,800 --> 01:57:24,440
Speaker 2: in the new set. We'll be back on Thursday at noon, No.

2715
01:57:24,560 --> 01:57:28,880
Speaker 2: Catch twenty two. This week again we're working on the set.

2716
01:57:29,280 --> 01:57:31,680
Speaker 2: Next week. We're gonna have new furniture, We're gonna have

2717
01:57:31,760 --> 01:57:34,400
Speaker 2: some tweaks done. So keep watching. You're going to see

2718
01:57:34,440 --> 01:57:39,560
Speaker 2: the evolution of the set. It's very exciting, you know.

2719
01:57:39,640 --> 01:57:42,240
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of tread left on these tires.

2720
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2727
01:58:05,800 --> 01:58:10,680
Speaker 2: All right, so our maiden voyage not bad, not bad,

2728
01:58:10,720 --> 01:58:12,800
Speaker 2: not bad so far. Still got work to do, but

2729
01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:16,360
Speaker 2: we're gonna get there. Thanks matt Na Booth. Thanks Dave Chase,

2730
01:58:16,720 --> 01:58:22,120
Speaker 2: our engineer who hard work got everything working technically. Yeah.

2731
01:58:22,280 --> 01:58:26,720
Speaker 2: Jordan in the back doing the directing TD yeah, so

2732
01:58:27,200 --> 01:58:29,480
Speaker 2: good stuff. We will see you on Thursday.

2733
01:58:30,680 --> 01:58:34,560
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