1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: The volume. Hi, I'm slow and I know basketball. 2 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: Today's guest is a basketball who's NBA coaching career spans 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: over two decades, including leading the Boston Celtics to a 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: championship in two thousand and eight. His journey from Marquette 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 2: to playing in the NBA to coaching his son in 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: the league is a story you won't want to miss. 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: Today's guest joined us right before taking the head coach 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: position for the Milwaukee bus. 9 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 1: Let's get to know Doc Rivers. When I was on 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: the car rid here. 11 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 2: I was talking to my mom and I was like, 12 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 2: what questions should I ask? 13 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: Doc? 14 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,959 Speaker 2: And my mom knows a lot about basketball from how 15 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: much I talk about it, right, But she's not like, oh, like, 16 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: she's not going to ask you like a deep basketball question. 17 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: She said. 18 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 2: She was like, you know, if you were a real doctor, 19 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 2: what would you be a doctor of? So I want 20 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: to know, do you think you'd be like a pediatrician 21 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: or like a brain doctor. 22 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 3: I'd be a brain doctor for a shore. Yeah. 23 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: By the way, you know, I said brain doctor because 24 00:00:58,280 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: I don't even know what it's called. Yeah, but I'm 25 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: sure it had a big name. 26 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 3: I think it's a bigger name than we're using. 27 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. 28 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 3: But it would be really great that if I could 29 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 3: just operate on some of the brains of some of 30 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 3: the players that I coach and I could tweet things 31 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 3: a little bit. Oh, that would be awesome. 32 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: Well you can in two k you know, if you 33 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: just want to go. Yeah, I love it. If you 34 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: actually could tweet their minds, you would. 35 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, yes, yes, all of them. Would make them 36 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 3: all team players, and it'd be a little thing I 37 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 3: would put. Listen to Doc everything, listen to Doc. Yeah, 38 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 3: I would change them and I'd make them all tough. 39 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: Tough. Okay, now that helps. I feel like my parents 40 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: would probably do that. 41 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 3: To my head. Yeah, to all of us. 42 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: So as we know, I'm sixteen years old and I'm 43 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 2: in tenth grade. I want to know what you were 44 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: like when you were sixteen. 45 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: Wow, that's a great question that when I was sixteen 46 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 3: years old, I was Glenn Rivers. Yeah, I wasn't DOC yet. 47 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 3: I was playing for Visas High School. It's one of 48 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: the better high schools. I think there's twelve NBA players 49 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: that came from that high school. That's non recruit it's 50 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: just local people from the neighborhood and I was doing 51 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 3: I was playing back. I played basketball all day. I 52 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: never caught it work, you know, I just went to 53 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 3: the park. Back then, when I grew up, we didn't 54 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 3: have to have played eights. I would get on my 55 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: bike and tell my parents I'd be home by the 56 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 3: time the street lights came on. 57 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 2: Yeh. 58 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: And I literally was at Tenth Park from you know, 59 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: sun up to sundown. That's what I did every day. 60 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 3: And I did what other kids did. You know? You 61 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 3: were rode the bikes and just hung out. 62 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but were you doing that with the goal of 63 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: being in the NBA or for you this was just 64 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: what you were doing in your free time because it 65 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: was fun. 66 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 3: I love basketball. I actually I had that story that 67 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 3: I rode on the I think I was in the 68 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 3: fourth grade. I rode on the chalkboard I want to 69 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 3: be a pro basketball player. And the teacher told me 70 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 3: to race it and be realistic, and so I wrote 71 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 3: it again. She told me to erase it again, and 72 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 3: I wrote it again. And so I had an uncle, 73 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 3: Jim Brewer, who played at the University of Minnesota, and 74 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 3: he went to the pros so basket. That was my goal, 75 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: but I didn't go to the park thinking about being 76 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 3: a pro basketball player. I just go went because that's 77 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 3: where the best games were and it was fun to play. 78 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 2: So you were a McDonald's All American. What do you 79 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 2: remember most about that game? 80 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 3: Oh, it was a great It was in Oakland. I 81 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: remember that I think I was the leading scorer in 82 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 3: the game. I do remember that I think Russell Cross 83 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 3: won the MVP. But it was awesome. You know, growing 84 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: up in Chicago, you don't travel a lot, so that 85 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 3: was one of the few times I was able to 86 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 3: travel and get on a plane. And it was so 87 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 3: cool to be able to measure yourself because you've heard 88 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: of all these high school guys Derek Harper, but you've 89 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 3: never played against. 90 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: Them, and so you know, see how you really get 91 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: to see and. 92 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 3: In this generation now with au they all see each other. 93 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: In our generation, we never saw guys from other states 94 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 3: and other cities. So the McDonald's games that was that 95 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: was a cool thing. 96 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 2: It was like pre MBA. It's like you got to 97 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: it's almost like a preview. 98 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 3: Yes you can, you can measure yourself. I do remember 99 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 3: coming from the McDonald's game thinking, all right, I'm pretty 100 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 3: good yeah, I got a chance here. Yeah, so that 101 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: was good for me. 102 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: I love it. 103 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: So on Google it says you're listed at six to four, 104 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: and a lot of players have told me that they 105 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 2: think that their Google height listing isn't really accurate. 106 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: Do you think it's accurate? And when did you hit 107 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: that mark of six to four? 108 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: I am exactly six four, oh, exactly, probably shorter now 109 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 3: because I'm older. I would say my junior year in college. Okay, yeah, 110 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 3: I grew a little bit in college. 111 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: At sixteen. You think you're around like six. 112 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 3: Foot or yeah, yeah, right around six feet maybe maybe 113 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 3: even shorter. 114 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 115 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: So obviously we know you won an NBA championship, You've 116 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 2: done incredible things in your life. What would sixteen year 117 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 2: old you think about you now? 118 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 3: Wow? I think you would be happy. 119 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 120 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: You know, my goal was to be a pro basketball player. Yeah, 121 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 3: and I was that for thirteen years. Then I became 122 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 3: a coach and I was that for twenty plus years 123 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 3: and won a title, made the All Star team. So 124 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I think you'd be very happy with 125 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 3: me overall. You know, always when you asked that, it's funny, 126 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: I didn't even think of sports at first. My first 127 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 3: thought was because my parents, what would he think of 128 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: me as a human being, as a person, Because that's 129 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 3: far more important in a lot of ways than than 130 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 3: what you are or what you do. You should be 131 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 3: bigger than what you do, you should be more. That's 132 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 3: what I guess what. 133 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: I would say that my parents are gonna love that 134 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: you just said that. 135 00:05:58,279 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 3: It's true, It's very true. 136 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: So now that we know a little bit about you 137 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: at sixteen years old, I want to know even more 138 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: than we already know about you. 139 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: Now, So what was your welcome to the league moment? 140 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: Oh? My welcome to the league moment was my I 141 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 3: think it was a second game, a third game my 142 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 3: rookie career. We're playing Philadelphia and all the two stories 143 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 3: you know, my name is my nickname is Doc, right, 144 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 3: and so we were playing Doctor J. And I had 145 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 3: never met Doctor J. And I was so nervous before 146 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 3: the game. Yeah, and he walked up to me and said, 147 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 3: what's up. 148 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: Doc, Wow? 149 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 3: And for me, that was cool. 150 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: That's that was boss. 151 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 3: That was cool. And then during the game, Maury's cheeks 152 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 3: ripped me like three times. And that was my other 153 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: moment in the league where okay, yeah, I have to 154 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 3: be a better player. So, yeah, it was a cool thing. 155 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 2: I love that you just said that, because literally, my 156 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 2: next question on the paper was going to say, can 157 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: you take us through the story of how. 158 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: You got the nickname Doc? 159 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 2: For those of you who don't know, Doc's real name 160 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 2: is Glenn, but obviously we all know him as Doc, 161 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 2: and so I'm so curious to hear that story. 162 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 3: It's an interesting story. I was a freshman in high 163 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: school at a basketball camp and I was registering and 164 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 3: I had a picture of Doctor J on my T shirt. 165 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 166 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 3: Al McGuire, the legendary coach, was sitting next to Rick Majeris, 167 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 3: the legendary coach, and Rick turns to him and says, 168 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 3: that kid can really play. We need to keep an 169 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,119 Speaker 3: eye out on him. At the end of that week, 170 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 3: the Milwaukee Bucks, back then pro teams would come in 171 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 3: and play in front of the kids. Yeah, well, they 172 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 3: only had nine guys, and Al McGuire gets up and says, hey, Doc, 173 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 3: can you come out? We need you to play. I 174 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 3: sat there. I didn't know. My name is not Doc, 175 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 3: so and he said it three times. He kept pointing 176 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 3: at me, Hey Doc, Hey, Doc, And finally I realized 177 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 3: I was Doc. Doc. Yeah, and I got I was 178 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 3: one of you know, a freshman in high school playing 179 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 3: with the Milwaukee Bucks on a court and I scored, 180 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 3: uh two baskets and all the kids start yelling Doc, 181 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: and it's stuck. 182 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: That's crazy. Does anyone still call you Glenn? 183 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, my family, you know It's funny. I grew 184 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 3: up in Maywood, just a suburb of Chicago. Whenever I'm 185 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 3: anywhere and someone from the audience, yail's Glenn. I know 186 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: it's somebody from Maywood, and no one at home calls 187 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 3: me Doc. Everyone calls me. 188 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: It never stuck for your family only for like. 189 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, my mom did not like someone changed my hurt. Yeah, 190 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 3: you know that was my you know. So Yeah, But 191 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 3: whenever I go home now my brother everyone it's Glenn. Yeah. 192 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: I love it. I'm gonna start calling you Glenn because 193 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: like I need to be. 194 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 3: Like pat Riley would call me Glenn too when he 195 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 3: thought I was not doing well. 196 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: Oh okay, So. 197 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: Now, in the next half of your career as an 198 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 2: ESPN analyst, can you give me some advice on how 199 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 2: you think I can improve my analyst game? 200 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: Wow, I would say this, and I don't know. If 201 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 3: it's you improving your game, you're better than me, So 202 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 3: I don't know how I'm going to tell you how 203 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 3: to improve. I just think we should all celebrate people, 204 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 3: and I think you do a great job of that overall, 205 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 3: Like it's no negativity. Yeah, there's so many ways we 206 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 3: can go. And when you look at most of the 207 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 3: people you're going to interview, they've had fifty great things 208 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 3: and probably three or four bad things. Yeah, and a 209 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 3: lot of interviews when you do them, they're going to 210 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 3: talk about two of the three of the bad things 211 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 3: and talk about two of the great things that people 212 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 3: have done in their lives. And I think we should 213 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 3: celebrate people more. I think it's it be great for 214 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 3: kids overall, we just celebrated everyone. I read a thesis 215 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 3: I don't know somewhere, and this kid wrote, please allow 216 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 3: my heroes to be heroes. Stop taking them down. I 217 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: don't want to know the bad stuff. I just want 218 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 3: to know the good stuff. I want somebody to look 219 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 3: up to. And so I think that's what we should 220 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 3: do more. 221 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's I love so much that you said 222 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: that because for me, you know, I'm just such a 223 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: fan of basketball and I sit here with my idols 224 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: in the chair across for me, and all I see 225 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: when I look at you guys is like a god, 226 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: you know, like I'm so amazed. And I also hate 227 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: that people bring you down instead of bringing you guys up, 228 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: and that's so important to me to continue to do that. 229 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 2: And I always think about this, you know, like I'm 230 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 2: the biggest Steph Curry fangirl in the world, and I 231 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: you know, admit that, Like at like twelve at night 232 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 2: when I really probably should be a sleeper doing my homework. 233 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: I scroll on these like Warriors. 234 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: Twitter pages and Steph has like one bad shooting night 235 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: and people are like, let's trade Steph. 236 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, do you know what you're talking about? 237 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 3: You should never read that, And it's like. 238 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 2: Why would you ever say something like that. He has 239 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: done so much for the game. He's an extraordinary person, 240 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: an extraordinary player. And to take someone down for one 241 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: little thing that they did, like the amount of bad 242 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 2: grades that I've gotten. If someone was just like we 243 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 2: should kick her out of school, I would be kicked 244 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: out so many times. 245 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 3: First of all, I know your parents, I know I 246 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 3: know you don't have any bad grades. There's no way. 247 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 3: But Steph is truly one of the nicest human beings 248 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 3: you can meet, and and it's real, it's not fake. 249 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 3: It's what you see is what you get. What I 250 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 3: love about that. He's also a vicious competitor, you know, 251 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 3: and people He's proven you can be nice and mean 252 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: at the same time. 253 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of this sort of positive thing talking about 254 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 2: other incredible players, I want to talk you a little 255 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: bit about mj What was your first experience like playing 256 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: against him? 257 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 3: You know, it's funny. I was in the They used 258 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 3: to have this sports festival thing growing up, and I 259 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 3: think I was a sophomore and he was a freshman 260 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 3: and they played the Midwest, the South and the North 261 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 3: and the East, and it was in Syracuse and at 262 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 3: that time I never heard of Michael Jordan, you know, 263 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 3: literally had never heard of him. He was an in Gooing. Yeah, 264 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 3: he was an ingoing freshman in North Carolina. And playing 265 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 3: against him that week, I remember coming from that thinking, 266 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 3: I don't know what is Michael Jordan guy is, but 267 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 3: he's really good. He's really good. Uh. And then obviously 268 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 3: I remember his rookie year when we faced him. He 269 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 3: was with the Bulls, and you know, the first thing, 270 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: I thought, there's no way someone can play that hard 271 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 3: and that attenpt the whole year, and he did it 272 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 3: for his whole career, which tells you a lot about him. 273 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 2: It's truly incredible and similar. But what was your first 274 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 2: experience like coaching against Kobe? 275 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: Well, you know, we had this thing what we call 276 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 3: the best player on the other team, if the best player, 277 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 3: if the best player on both teams, we would call 278 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 3: the ASA space. And so every game he coached against 279 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 3: the Lakers, they had Kobe, so we would say, okay, 280 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 3: they have the ace spades tonight, yea. And so you 281 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 3: would always try to affect him somehow by being physical, 282 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 3: by trapping, by doing different things. He was as close 283 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 3: to Michael, in my opinion, as there ever been. That 284 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 3: doesn't mean there, you know, guys can't be better, but 285 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 3: I'm just saying his makeup, everything he did reminded you 286 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 3: of Michael, you know, even later in his career. You know, 287 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 3: he went to the mid post game, just everything. What 288 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 3: I loved about him most was his brain. And I 289 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 3: loved the same thing with Michael. His intensity, like he 290 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 3: was a co blooded killer and I love players like that. 291 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, And what would you tell your team, you know, 292 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 2: the ace of space was a guy like Kobe or 293 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 2: like Lebron or like Staff, Like how do you stop them? 294 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: You know? 295 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 3: As a coach, well, I always tell them they could 296 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 3: be better than you all year, but just not tonight. 297 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 3: You know. I thought that way as a player too. 298 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 3: I remember telling Michael that, like, yeah, you're the greatest player, 299 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 3: just not tonight, you know. And you know, that's how 300 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 3: I think you have to You can't. You can't look 301 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 3: at these guys as gods when they're on the floor 302 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 3: or when you're going against them, you're trying to beat them. Yeah, 303 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 3: And I've always thought the competitors appreciated that, like, Okay, 304 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 3: you're competing. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm doing. 305 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: Okay. 306 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: So people may not know this, but as of the 307 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 2: basketball nerd that I am, like, I've known this forever. 308 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: So Doc's daughter, Calli, who played volleyball at the University 309 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: of Florida, is married to Seth Curry, obviously the brother 310 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 2: of Steph Curry and the son of Del Curry. And 311 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: then Steph and says sister Sidell is married to Damian Lee. 312 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: So your guys's family, In my opinion, I think maybe 313 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: the basketball royal family. On every side, there's just incredible athletes. 314 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: Look what is Thanksgiving? 315 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 3: Like, it's hid me through everything. When all the families 316 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 3: get together, it's something turns into something competitive. Yeah, you know, 317 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 3: it just is a lot of times, especially like with 318 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 3: Austin and Seth and Staff and all those guys everything 319 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 3: they talk about sports. Yeah, you know, that's what we 320 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 3: all are. And the debates for like Dylle and I 321 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 3: are hilarious to listen to because a lot of times, 322 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 3: like Austin will call me with Seth on the phone 323 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 3: and he said, you gotta we have a debate going here, 324 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 3: And I would always say, I say neutral because I 325 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 3: want them to keep going because it's hilarious. 326 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's pretty cool though. 327 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 2: I love keeping up with the Kardashians. I want to 328 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: see a reality TV show. 329 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: You don't want to see that, I know I do so. 330 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 2: In high school and like a classic yearbook, you know, 331 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 2: there's like superlatives like who's most likely to succeed whatever. 332 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: You've been a coach and a player on so many 333 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: incredible teams. So I want to do some Dock River superlatives. 334 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: So I'm going to give you the team and then 335 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 2: I want you to answer, okay, with who you think 336 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: would be the most fitting. So who was the funniest 337 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: player in the huddle on the Sixers? 338 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 3: Oh? Probably probably Tobias. I'm gonna go Tobias. Yeah, yeah, 339 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 3: he was probably the funniest in the huddles. 340 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: Interesting. What about on the Clippers? 341 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 3: Oh, Jamal Crawford. 342 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 2: Okay, that makes so much more sense to me than Toby, Like, 343 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: I wouldn't think that Toby Jamal Crawford. 344 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 3: First of all, I loved him, but yeah, he yet 345 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 3: usually it was about offense, you know, some way for 346 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 3: him to score. H Yeah, I would go with Jamal Crawford. 347 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: Okay, who was the team dad on the Sixers? 348 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 3: That would be Tobias for sure. 349 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: That makes yeah, that makes sense. 350 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, that that would be. That's why he was funny 351 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 3: because he would say things that but what in his 352 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 3: age group, Like you would think, like what is he 353 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 3: talking about? But uh, that that's an one hundred percent Yeah. 354 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 2: Who on the championship winning Celtics team do you think 355 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 2: could eat the most wings? 356 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 3: Oh? Big baby? Yeah, come on, that's not even a contest. Uh. 357 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 3: The craziest contest though, that that was the most competitive 358 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 3: team I've ever coached. All of them were competitive. 359 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:17,959 Speaker 1: Yeah. 360 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 3: They had an arm wrestling competition on the plane once. 361 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 3: It's been talked about before. I think it's the most 362 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 3: athletic feet I've ever seen, because Big Baby is bigger 363 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 3: than everybody and he was just killing everybody. And the 364 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,479 Speaker 3: finals came down to Big Baby and Kevin Garnett, and 365 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 3: the players grabbed me to come watch, and I didn't 366 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 3: want them to do it because I thought Kevin would 367 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 3: get hurt. I'm worried about their shoulders. 368 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 2: And it started so long, like he's skinny, but yeah. 369 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 3: And Baby is huge. And it started and Kevin's just 370 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 3: stared at Baby, and all of a sudden they got 371 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 3: stuck and Baby gave in and Kevin won, and I 372 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 3: was blown away by Kevin's That's when if you didn't 373 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 3: believe in will power before that, you believed in and 374 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 3: after that. Because I was straight Baby stronger than Kevin Garnett. Yeah, 375 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 3: and yet Kevin won. It was awesome. It was cool. 376 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 2: I went to a Clippers preseason game and I sat 377 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 2: next to Big Baby and the things that he was 378 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 2: saying to players was insane for my little, you know, 379 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 2: sixteen year old ears I cannot believe I heard those. 380 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 3: To the other player on the floor. 381 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, preseason, so there was like Kobe Brown like the 382 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 2: like you know whatever double rostered player on the Clippers 383 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 2: that no one knows, and Big Baby's telling him. He's like, 384 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: you know, while the games happening, He's like, I really 385 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 2: like your game, but your shot selection really needs to improve. 386 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: Me. 387 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 2: You're like, how are you saying that to this guy? 388 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 2: Like Terrence Man literally looked over at Big Baby and 389 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 2: was like, you are a psycho, and he just did 390 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: not stop. I loved it on that Celtics scene that 391 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 2: you said was so competitive. Do you think anyone was 392 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 2: a secret Lakers fan? 393 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 3: No? Maybe Paul Pierce growing up, he grew up in 394 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 3: LA I think he said he was a Clipper fan, 395 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 3: but I'm not sure. Yeah, but no, I would say, 396 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 3: and if they were, you would never have said it. 397 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 3: In Boston. That's that's real. Like the rivalry is real. 398 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 3: And I didn't really understand that, you know, my first 399 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 3: year as a Celtic coach until like we I think 400 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 3: we lost a game that the Celtics and Tommy Heinsen 401 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 3: and legendary Tim Heninson walked over to me it's like, 402 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 3: we don't lose to the Lakers. Yeah, and I'm like, okay, 403 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 3: but they're better, but okay. 404 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 405 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 2: Who on the Clippers was the most la like the 406 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 2: most stereotypical, like always hang out with the celebrities all 407 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 2: of that. 408 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 3: Oh, DeAndre Jordan. 409 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: My guy, he was on slow nose. 410 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, Matt Burns was close because Matt and DJ probably 411 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 3: hung out the most and knew the most. Blake knew 412 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 3: a lot of people too, but Blake was more trying 413 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 3: to get into the business. 414 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, you know, wanted to have fun. 415 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 3: Andre Andre is the NBA fun guy. Like every team 416 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 3: you play, they know DJ and they're going out with DJ. 417 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 3: He's one of my favorite people too. Yeah, he's just 418 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 3: a good dude. 419 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: He is so nice. 420 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 2: The other day I reposted you know, he had that 421 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 2: poster the other day and I reposted it and he said, 422 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 2: I'm famous now that Sloan reposted my story. And it's like, 423 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 2: it's just that really means so much to me, you know, 424 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 2: because guys don't have to say things like that. 425 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 3: But he would, and he is me. He's a champion. Now. 426 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 3: I actually think DJ should be the first Clipper Jersey 427 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 3: retired really, I really do. He was the original one. 428 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 3: He's all defense. Let me gold medal, NBA champion stay there. 429 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,959 Speaker 3: The longest was traded was never never, just left. So 430 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 3: I think when they opened a new arena they should 431 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 3: put DJ's jersey up. I think that'd be really cool. 432 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: Steve Bommer listened to Doklan, please do do it. 433 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: So this one is for my dad and for the 434 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 2: dads out there, because I obviously was not alive when 435 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 2: you were on the Knicks. But I think a lot 436 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 2: of Knicks fans want to hear this. On your Knicks team, 437 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 2: who do you think was the most likely to win 438 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 2: a UFC match? 439 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 3: Charles Oakley or Anthony Mason or John Stark or Patrick Ewing? 440 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 3: And we had that was that was a rough team. 441 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 3: I love that team. 442 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: If you and Charles Oakley went in the ring, what's 443 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: going down? 444 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 3: Oh? I beat him. I just punched him to death. 445 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 3: You know we there's footage Charles Oaklan I had a 446 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 3: fight when I was with He was with the Knicks 447 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 3: and I was with the Hawks. We literally they someone 448 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 3: just sent it to me because it was the anniversary 449 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 3: of the Charles Oakley Doc Rivers fight. Uh huh. It 450 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 3: was quick. I threw one punch and they grabbed us, 451 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 3: and I was thinking, someone grabbed me quick? Please. No, 452 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 3: Oakley is rough. He'd beat most of the leg for sure, you. 453 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: Think now still, Oh yeah, like him versanis. 454 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 3: Oakley was a grown man. Like There's see, there's a 455 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 3: different thing. There's guys who in the NBA will talk 456 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 3: like they want to fight. There's guys in the NBA 457 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 3: who will fight, and then there's a few guys who 458 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 3: want to fight. And oak was a want two guy, 459 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 3: like he was looking for a fight. There's not a 460 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 3: lot of guys like that. 461 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So now let's move on to your kids, 462 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: because it's super cool that not only were you an 463 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,959 Speaker 2: NBA player and an NBA coach, but that your kids 464 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: also were basketball players and athletes, and that you've gotten 465 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 2: to share that with them. Can you tell me a 466 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 2: story about your kids that's made you most proud to 467 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: be their dad that has. 468 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 3: Never been asked? You know, each one of them. I 469 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 3: guess there's there's different moments. You know, Austin making the 470 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 3: shot against the North Carolina was a problem, But I 471 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 3: think my proudest moment of Austin was the day was 472 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 3: drafted like that was his goal. He wanted to be drafted. 473 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 3: My daughter won Gatorade Player of the Year in soccer 474 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 3: in volleyball. I think the most proud moment I am 475 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 3: of her, honestly is as a mom. She's a great mom, 476 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 3: and I didn't see that coming. I loved my daughter. 477 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 3: I didn't see great mom coming. I just didn't. I'm 478 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 3: being very honest there. My oldest going to Georgetown playing 479 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 3: in the final four was a problem moment. And my youngest, Spencer, 480 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 3: who is now an assistant coach with Detroit Pistons, my 481 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 3: proudest moment of him is they won the state championship. 482 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 3: I know that sounds crazy. It was high school, but 483 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 3: they were unranked, and unranked teams in high school never 484 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 3: win anything. They beat a team that had I think 485 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 3: like five D one players on it and it was 486 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 3: the most It was the most prizing state title win 487 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 3: maybe in Florida state history, and so I was really 488 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 3: proud of him. 489 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 2: That's incredible. Who is an underrated player in the NBA 490 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: that you've always admired their game? 491 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 3: Well, everyone knows Shaye now. 492 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: That's always everyone that he's not underrated. 493 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 3: But he's not underrated anymore. So it's you know, I 494 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 3: always say Drew Holiday through his career, he's been the 495 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 3: best defensive player in the NBA, and all of a sudden, 496 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 3: like two years ago, people start saying, no, no, he's 497 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,719 Speaker 3: a good defensive player. And as a coach, I'm like, 498 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 3: he's been a great defensive player through his career. So 499 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 3: I'm happy that he's getting his due now. But he's 500 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 3: been great for ten years. It's just taking people a 501 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 3: long time to figure it out. 502 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, who is a player that you've coached in your 503 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: career that you've been impressed by their development? Like when 504 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 2: they came into your organization, you were like, okay, there whatever, 505 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 2: and by the time they left, you were amazed by 506 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 2: what they've done. 507 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 3: Well, Shaye would have been, but we didn't have. But 508 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 3: one year, Terry's Maxie is you know, it's funny Sloan 509 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 3: his rookie year, he was shooting like twenty percent from 510 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 3: the three point line. And I remember doing a press 511 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 3: conference after the game and I said, Terry's Maxie is 512 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 3: a great shooter. And the media there were people they 513 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 3: literally like they started laughing. They destroyed me for making 514 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 3: a comment, and I said listen, he's not made a 515 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 3: shot in the NBA game. I get that, But the 516 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 3: guy makes one hundred threes in a row in practice, 517 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 3: fifty threes in a row. That's not a fluke. It's 518 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 3: gonna come. I don't know when it's gonna come, but 519 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 3: it's going to come. And I'm happy that I said 520 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 3: that now because when you're watching play, because if it 521 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 3: did so, he would be one for sure. 522 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 2: What was one challenging moment in your playing career that 523 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: you had to overcome? 524 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 3: Oh, that's an easy one. When I first got in 525 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 3: the league, I was not a good free throw shooter. 526 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 3: Second year, I broke my wrists and I literally got 527 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 3: the yips from the free throw line. And most players 528 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 3: don't recover from that. Like you gotta be really mentally strong, 529 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 3: like in baseball. When you get to yips, you have 530 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 3: to change positions. You can never go back. I think 531 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 3: I shot like fifty seven percent from the line under 532 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 3: I tried everything. Trust me. I actually flew to Allentown, 533 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 3: Pennsylvania because there was a guy named Hank Slider there 534 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 3: was supposed to be a shooting coach, genius, and he 535 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 3: actually helped. I still think I may have the NBA 536 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 3: record for biggest improvement in the year. I think I 537 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,719 Speaker 3: went from fifty seven to eighty seven. Wow, in one year. Yeah. 538 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 3: The time, though, what people don't see is sitting in 539 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 3: the backyard shooting free throws. And I was late for 540 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 3: a lot of stuff because I had to go like 541 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 3: I would right before dinner. I would always say I 542 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 3: have to make fifty free throws in a row. Well 543 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 3: you would do it. Some days that took two or 544 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 3: three hours, and so I was late for a lot 545 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 3: of stuff. 546 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 2: You know, there's those pictures of I think it's Yannis 547 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: and Marty Row's and I think both have an example 548 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 2: of this where they're literally taking off the court and 549 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 2: they're still saying they're shooting free throws. 550 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: And I think that that's. 551 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 3: You'll have to and when people don't understand, like I 552 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 3: could make forty eight in the row but you miss, 553 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 3: You're shooting a great percentage, but it's not what you said. 554 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 3: Whatever the goal you set, you have to reach. 555 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 556 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 2: What leadership qualities do you think are essential for an 557 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: NBA coach? 558 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 3: I think to be just leadership in general. I think 559 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 3: you have to be a great listener. I think you 560 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 3: can't be scared to tell the truth. And you can't 561 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 3: be scared to be unpopular, because as a coach, sometimes 562 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 3: you're gonna be the most unpopular person in the room. Yeah, 563 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 3: because you're making people do things that they don't want 564 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 3: to at the time. I always had this rule with 565 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 3: my players, I'm never going to coach you to who 566 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 3: you are today. I'm going to coach you who I 567 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 3: think you should be someday. 568 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: Wow. 569 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 3: And and so that was great with the guys who 570 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 3: wanted to be something else, but the guys who were 571 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 3: who had settled, that was hard for them because I 572 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 3: was still pushing them. So, yeah, I think you have 573 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 3: to be really stubborn at times. Yeah, but you still 574 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 3: have to be a great listener. You have to stay 575 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 3: open minded. That's what you are. Yeah, No, you really 576 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 3: are at times. 577 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 2: So you've got a luxury to coach the Lob City trio, 578 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 2: who actually are all slow Nose alums, which is pretty cool. 579 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 2: It's my first like trio that I checked off exactly. 580 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 2: Can you give us a story that you remember with 581 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 2: the three of them? 582 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, just in playing. I mean, you know, the lop 583 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 3: City thing had already started before I got there, and 584 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 3: I just I wanted to be win City. I could 585 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 3: care less about Lob City. I wanted to be win City. 586 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 3: But then that Blake and DJ had and the passes 587 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 3: that Chris made. You know, it's funny. I bet if 588 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 3: you go back, I think Jamal probably made a couple 589 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 3: of them too, But for the most part, all those 590 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 3: passes were Chris Paul involved, and he should probably he 591 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 3: wasn't a dunker, but he should get more credit, yeah, 592 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 3: for creating dunk City because it really started when Chris arrived. 593 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like for me because I'm a big 594 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 2: Warriors fan. I always think about that with like Draymond's 595 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 2: impact on Steph, and we saw this with Draymond's suspension, 596 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 2: Steph's three point shooting percentage has gone exponentially down. Like 597 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 2: I think he was shooting like forty three and he 598 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 2: went all the way to like thirty seven. Because without 599 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 2: Draymond there, who finds him and he knows where he is, 600 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 2: That's not gonna happen. And I think it's cool to 601 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 2: credit those behind the scenes guys like Chris where even 602 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 2: if you don't really see it, it's there. 603 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: Like Blake and DJ couldn't be doing that without him. 604 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, Chris was amazing for that team. It's a perfect 605 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 3: fit in a lot of ways, just like Draymond is. 606 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 3: You know, thinks Steph is averaging five points last in 607 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 3: the Games of Draymond doesn't play because Draymond in a 608 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 3: lot of ways is their point guard for Golden State, 609 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 3: and they miss him. 610 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:08,959 Speaker 1: They do. 611 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 2: I'm so excited to have him back. What is your 612 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 2: favorite part about being your grandpa? 613 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 3: Uh, it's it's the best thing ever, that's better than I. 614 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 3: First of all, let me just say this, Dale got 615 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 3: the nickname g Daddy. 616 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: Wow. 617 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,479 Speaker 3: So that's the perfect it's a perfect grandpa name, right, 618 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 3: So he gets to stay cool and. 619 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: What are you? 620 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 3: I'm grandpa? So I'm like this old dude. I'm like, 621 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 3: I'm younger than Dale. How did this happen? And so 622 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 3: Dale got it first, so he's happy. You know. The 623 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 3: greatest part is the love, Like you know, you know 624 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 3: who the common opponent is, and it's the parents. I 625 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 3: come in, I'm Candy, gifts play and then the best 626 00:30:58,640 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 3: part and then I can leave. 627 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: Yes. 628 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, So the last part of each Sloan Nose episode 629 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 2: is trivia about you. 630 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 3: Which I don't know it. 631 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 2: Okay, So you're just gonna come up clean with that 632 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 2: because a lot of people are like, very cocky. 633 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna know trivia about myself and they rarely do. 634 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 2: Okay, So DeAndre and Chris, when I interviewed DeAndre, you know, 635 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 2: we're like chatting it up about who was the best 636 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 2: that Sloane knows trivia. So if you want to join 637 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 2: in on that chat, let me know how that goes. 638 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 2: But anyways, earlier today I interviewed Kelsey Plump and she 639 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 2: got a score of eight point five. And last week 640 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 2: I interviewed Santi al Dama of the Grizzlies and he 641 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 2: got a score of eleven. We've been doing this trivia 642 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 2: for a while. Just thought of this sort of scoring situation. 643 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 2: So if you probably asked DeAndre, he'd say he got 644 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 2: like in one hundred. I would say he got more 645 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 2: like a one. 646 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 3: He's very bad. 647 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: It's okay. 648 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 3: I would agree with that. 649 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you would agree, okay, Okay, So the points system 650 00:31:54,560 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: is this, So zero points is nowhere close goodness, zero 651 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: point five is in the ballparks of a correct answer. 652 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: One is very close, and two is nailed it. 653 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 2: But I'm a very tough critic, Okay, like if you 654 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 2: if you debate with. 655 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: Me, I'm gonna tee you up. I'm gonna find you everything. 656 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: There's no debating. Okay, it's my grade book and that's 657 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: how it goes. 658 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 2: So you're a mean NBA referee, I would be a 659 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 2: meaning dea yeah referee, I mean I would. 660 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: I would suspend like I would throw people out of there. 661 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 3: Me too. 662 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: You wouldn't want to see it. 663 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 2: Okay, ready, okay, you were the Hawks all time leader 664 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 2: and assists. How many assists did you have for the 665 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 2: Atlanta Hawks? 666 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh, numbers? Yeah, I would never know that. 667 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 3: Let me try to guess for mate. I'm doing quick 668 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 3: math here. 669 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 2: Two thousand, three thousand, eight hundred sixty six. Unfortunately, Doc, 670 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to give you a zero. 671 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: That's not in the Yeah. Next question, how many regular 672 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: season games did you play in your career? 673 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 3: Oh? My goodness, the number thing. I don't even know 674 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 3: my numbers after a game. Okay, eighty two games a year, yeah, 675 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 3: thirteen years with injury. Oh, I'm gonna go on. 676 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 2: Thousand, eight hundred and sixty four, eight hundred sixty four. 677 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 3: Wow. 678 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: Do we feel like I feel like that's for this 679 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: that's in the ballpark, right, that's like in the ball park. 680 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: That's pretty good. So zero point. 681 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 3: But did you count playoffs? 682 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 2: No, this is regular, but by the way, with playoffs, 683 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 2: it probably would be around that. 684 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I'm checking. 685 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: I get to right, Okay, okay, So you were. 686 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 2: The Sixers coach from twenty twenty to twenty twenty three. 687 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 2: How many Sixers coaches have there been before you. 688 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 3: In total in history? Yeah? Goodness, Okay, I'm gonna go 689 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 3: with uh, because the Sixers fire a lot. I mean, 690 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 3: they've had three and four coaches in the one season. 691 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 3: What we did we just do the fifty year anniversary recently. 692 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: In the NBA, Yeah, seventy fifth year. 693 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's a chance of seventy five coaches. I'm 694 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 3: gonna go with sixty coaches. 695 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: Sixty Yeah, it's fifteen what oh. 696 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 3: My gosh in the total. 697 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so. 698 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 3: I feel like that's a good thing then, actually, yeah, yeah, you. 699 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 2: Change the positivity thing, right, team in here with a 700 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 2: negative perception of the Sixers office. And because I'm just 701 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 2: this new, fresh, amazing perspective, I get that to you. 702 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 3: Right, just changed my whole perspective, even. 703 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: Though I just change your whole perspective. I'm going to 704 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 1: have to give you a zero. That was probably the 705 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: most that I've ever gotten. 706 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think you can. Let's get back from it. 707 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 2: Let's bounce back. 708 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 1: Who was your career high in points against as a player? 709 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 3: I think I did it twice, and I want to 710 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 3: say the Boston Celtics. 711 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: Let's get the other team. 712 00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 3: Then, I don't know the other team. I'm gonna guess. 713 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 3: I don't know. 714 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: I'll give you a hint. 715 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 2: The team no longer exists, Well they do, but with 716 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 2: a different name and in a different. 717 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: City, New Orleans SuperSonics. 718 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:10,919 Speaker 3: Is that right? 719 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: Yes, it's funny. I'm just teaching so many things. 720 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 3: So that's Oklahoma City. 721 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: Yes, that's what I meant, like because like technically, but I. 722 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 3: Thought I had the same number against the Celtics. 723 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: Someone's gonna have to fact check that. Yeah, that's interesting. 724 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: I mean Google does say. 725 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 3: What was it? Thirty seven? 726 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 2: I believe so, yes, thirty seven. You were an All 727 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 2: Star in nineteen eighty eight. Who won the three point 728 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 2: contest that year? 729 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 3: Well, I'm just gonna guess, Larry Bird. 730 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: Yes, that's crazy. Yeah stuck. Yeah, finally, Okay, two points. 731 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: So right now you're at two point five. I mean 732 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: it's not. 733 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 3: Zero zero zero. Yeah, I'm better than dj R exactly. 734 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: Who won the dunk contest for that All. 735 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 3: Star Well, I know who should have won. Michael won. 736 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 1: Michael did win. Yeah, correct, so I get. 737 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 3: Points for that, Yes, but I know who should have won. 738 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 3: Dominique one. 739 00:35:58,440 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: Dominique should have won. 740 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 3: Yeah it was in Caago some Dominic had no chick. 741 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I don't count should have won? He did win. 742 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 2: Okay, so four point five love it. How many points 743 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 2: did you have in the nineteen eighty eight All Star Game? 744 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 3: Well, I have no idea thirteen nine, that's. 745 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: In the ballpark. I'll give you zero point five. 746 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 3: I think I had a I missed a ton of 747 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 3: free throws in that game. Yeah. 748 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a bad But then once you improved, 749 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:25,760 Speaker 2: I was improved already. 750 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 3: I just had a bad night. 751 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're a five five doc. 752 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 2: I know you talk all the talk about being a 753 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 2: good dad, right, But what is Austin's career. 754 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 3: High in the NBA? Yes, oh, he did it in 755 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,399 Speaker 3: the bubble. I know that forty one? 756 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:50,280 Speaker 2: Correct, was a guest Austin. That is impressive, right, that's 757 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 2: that's good for that. I d MD Austin and I 758 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 2: was like, Austin, I'm interviewing your dad. 759 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: What should I ask him? And he didn't even answer, 760 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: So like not chill of Austin. 761 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 3: That's Austin with text. That's also everything. He doesn't respond. 762 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 3: I bet he will respond, but he's gonna take him back. 763 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll take him by a week and then it'll 764 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,959 Speaker 1: be like awkward. Already interviewed him. That's your opportunity there. 765 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 2: But okay, you actually an insane comeback. So now you're 766 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 2: at seven points with two questions left. Wow, oh my god, 767 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 2: you're giving Kelsey a run for her money? Eight point five? 768 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: How many assists did you average at Marquette? 769 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 3: At Marquette, I'm taking you back. These are some tough ones. 770 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go six. 771 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 1: Point five, four point six? Come on, dot, I don't know, like, 772 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 1: how did they. 773 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 3: Think that's that's close? How did they think I was 774 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 3: a point guard? 775 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: Is it close? Two more? 776 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 2: Okay, I hear you, but two more assists assist isn't 777 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 2: something that little? 778 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 779 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 3: Like, that's just four points. 780 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: It could have been six points. 781 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 3: Not in my air? 782 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 1: Your so do I there's no three points? So am 783 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: I giving you in the ballpark in the neighborhood. In 784 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,399 Speaker 1: the neighborhood should feel like zero point three point three? 785 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 1: Take that's like the teachers, like I can give you 786 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: one zero point one points back like I that doesn't 787 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: really help. 788 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,919 Speaker 3: Led the team and assists at four and a half, Yeah, 789 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 3: we must have really been there. 790 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:11,919 Speaker 1: Not a good look. 791 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 2: How many Marquette players have been drafted to the NBA total? 792 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 3: Yes, wow, twenty one. 793 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna give you another. It's much more than that. 794 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 2: You have to give Markett a little bit more credit. 795 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 3: Twenty one's a lot, I know. 796 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You have to give. Like Marquette 797 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:32,439 Speaker 1: is a good bess. 798 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 3: That is a great best you d. 799 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: Wade Jimmy Buckets, like, come on, give credit that they deserve. 800 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:38,919 Speaker 3: About thirty five? 801 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,720 Speaker 1: Oh wow, you have no confidence? Fifty seven? 802 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 3: Is that right? Wow? 803 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: I know crazy Marquette. Yeah, yeah, good for you. 804 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 3: Okay, I love that I get a zero on that. 805 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 1: But I'm very happy of your final score. Seven point three. 806 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: That's probably like a C. 807 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:53,800 Speaker 3: That's a C. 808 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 1: Well, that's fine. 809 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 3: That was me in school. 810 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: Okay, love it. 811 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 2: So you're just continuing that now, Doc, thank you so 812 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 2: much for being here. I had so much fun, and 813 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 2: even though you were pretty bad at the trivia, I 814 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 2: felt really good at answering all that. 815 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well once you went numbers. 816 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, numbers, numbers, I love it. Well, thank you so 817 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: much for being here. This is so much fun. 818 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 3: By the way, you're doing amazing. 819 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: Thanks, thank you, Thanks for listening. 820 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 2: You can get links to my socials and see behind 821 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 2: the scenes fun Doc and I in the show notes 822 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 2: Poor Just search at slow Nose on Instagram TikTok and 823 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,919 Speaker 2: you remember that's slowne with a knee. 824 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 3: The volume