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Speaker 1: So maybe I'm just being too nice, all right, So

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Speaker 1: How do you feel the rest of your time now, cecil? Well,

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Speaker 1: have three boys, no, JP, no, no no, there's no

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Speaker 1: have giars now caused Mary and josephin No. Seven is enough.

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Speaker 1: We did our part. Now, it's not everybody. We did

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it for keeping us alive. Cecil. Good to

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Speaker 1: talk to you as always. Man enjoying the game this

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Speaker 1: He appreciate you. JP. Always fun