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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to stuff.

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Speaker 1: I never told you a protection of iHeartRadio, and welcome

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Speaker 1: to another edition of Happy Hour. As always, if you

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Speaker 1: are choosing to drink or whatever you're choosing to do,

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Speaker 1: please do so responsibly. Samantha, are you sipping on anything?

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna drink all my sparkling strawberry watermelon water smuthful,

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Speaker 2: very delicious, very refreshing, and very bubbly.

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Speaker 1: Nice. Nice. I am drinking at my light beer. I

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Speaker 1: have a friend who brings this for me when she

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Speaker 1: comes to hangover, hang out, hangover. And she had her

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Speaker 1: boyfriend get it. And in the tradition of and I

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Speaker 1: say this with love in my heart. Oh, boyfriends, not

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Speaker 1: understand any what you're asking for. He got glass bottles.

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Speaker 1: So I haven't had beer out of a glass bottle.

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Speaker 2: I like how you started that sent It's softer.

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Speaker 1: She told him. Anyway, it doesn't matter, it's fine. I

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Speaker 1: just haven't had beer out of a glass bottle in

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Speaker 1: Wow mm hmm hurt. Like hell, that's a nightmare. I

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Speaker 1: don't like to drink out of glass anymore. I'm just

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Speaker 1: worried I'll break my replacement tooth. Yeah yeah, but it's beer.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna drink it and I'll be careful.

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Speaker 2: Do you not want to put it in the glass.

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Speaker 1: I'm worried about glasses too. I prefer like, do you.

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Speaker 2: Need me to get you a sippy cup for beer?

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Speaker 1: You got my sippy cup for wine.

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Speaker 2: I know they found you a sippy cup for beer. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I got a mission, y'all.

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Speaker 1: I'm just really like that experience because I broke my

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Speaker 1: Everything was closed and I was in Salanga where yeah,

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Speaker 2: See, I have broken my teeth. Well, no, not broken

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Speaker 2: my teeth, I have. I have broken my teeth. I

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Speaker 2: have broken teeth now, but I've also lost caps because

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Speaker 2: like I we is, wait, I've never done an emergency.

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Speaker 1: For some rodd reason, they didn't speak English. They only

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Speaker 2: So they're trying to tell how much sedation and like,

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Speaker 2: oh wow, to be fair, like the whole breaking on glass,

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Speaker 3: Oh, like the metal straws, yeah, and just other plastic straws. Wow,

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Speaker 3: I don't do many orphices anywhere. Keep going, oh my goodness,

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Speaker 2: I'm fine it's fine. Everything's just fine here. Yeah, let's

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Speaker 2: be Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: Everyone guess because this is coming out on Thanksgiving. And

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Speaker 1: you and I were talking about, Samantha, that I have

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Speaker 1: temporal disintegration. It means you don't know what day it is,

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Speaker 1: We have, and apparently I knew this was true, but

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh no, girl, did I I don't mention to

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