1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: I am like Spofford, joined by my trusted colleague West Hodkuitz. 3 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: We're coming to you here from our studios at lambeau 4 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: Field and West a little bit of travel news to 5 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: talk about. In a couple of months, We're going to Canada. 6 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: We're going to Canada. Baby. I don't know the last 7 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: time you were in Canada. What was the last time 8 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: you're in Canada? Um? I was in Canada somewhere a 9 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: year or two after I got married. We actually crossed 10 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: the border at like Niagara Falls. Sure, so I actually 11 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: been to Canada more recently than you have. I was 12 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: in there in two thousand and twelve, before I started 13 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: my freshman year at Bayport High School. My parents were like, 14 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna go on a big family trip. So we did. 15 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: We drove up, we of up, crossed over. I believe 16 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: we're in Toronto briefly, but then the big part of 17 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: the trip was in Niagara Falls. Got a chance to 18 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: see that. That was seventeen years ago. Michael A lot 19 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: has changed. Excited to be going to Winnipeg for the 20 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: first time. Yeah, Winnipeg Manitoba will be the site of 21 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: the Packers Raiders preseason game August twenty two. It will 22 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: be the third preseason game of the four in green 23 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: based schedule. Now technically this is Oakland's home game, yeah, 24 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: within their preseason schedule. I G field, I believe is 25 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: that the name of it thirty three thousand, thirty three 26 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: thousand seat venue. It is the home of the Winnipeg 27 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: Blue Bombers of the CFL, And uh, I'll just be 28 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: curious to see how the whole thing gets set up 29 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: because the CFL has, you know, the larger field and 30 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: everything compared to the NFL, so they have to kind 31 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: of remark everything and reline it, have the goal posts 32 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: in the right spot, you know, all that kind of thing. 33 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: So it'll be neat trip. I think from what I 34 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: was looking at too, it looked like Winnipeg has like 35 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: is it like a twenty one day roads, Like they're 36 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: not going to be home for like one something. So 37 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: that's what sort of lent itself to being able to 38 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: do this. But that being said, I am going to 39 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: be very interested to see what the setup is like. 40 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers said he was excited about it. He's never 41 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: been to Winnipeg either, so that'll be a need for 42 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 1: him to do that for the first time. He said. 43 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: He still hopes that doesn't mean they won't be able 44 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: to go to London, though he would still like to 45 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: do that. There are a lot of guys in the 46 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: Packers locker room who would like to who would like 47 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: to make that trip to London. Hopefully it happens at 48 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: some point. But my bigger thing is is it's the preseason. 49 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: You and I have been through this so many times. 50 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: A lot of times we end up in Kansas City. 51 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: A lot you and I are going out in Tennessee. 52 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: You get those same sort of core teams that you're 53 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: traveling to usually in the midwest of the a f C. 54 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: So have a chance to throw a little bit of 55 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: a curveball in there and go check out Canada. I 56 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a need experience, something totally different. 57 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: But the big thing is it is going to be 58 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: interesting to see how they are able to format at 59 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: CFL stadium to fit in NFL teams needs. Yeah, and 60 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: just for the historians out there, the last time the 61 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: Packers played a game in Canada preseason August of n 62 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: played the Buffalo Bills in Toronto. It was yeah. Yeah, Actually, 63 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: the as everyone knows, the second of the back to 64 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: back Super Bowls in the five years, Packers played a 65 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: preseason game in Toronto against the Buffalo Bills. That's the 66 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: last time they crossed the border. Which year were they 67 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: in Asia? Tokyo? Yeah, Tokyo was I'd have to look 68 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: that that was it was, it was in It was 69 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: in the nineties. It was lying around there for a bit. 70 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: I was not aware that the Toronto Argonauts, right, Yes, 71 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: the Toronto Argonauts of the CFL. Yes, but the Buffalo 72 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: Bills hosted a preseason game, so that that would be 73 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: twenty two years ago if my sports math is correct. 74 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: It was interesting this week and the announcement was made 75 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: by Winnipeg that that they're going to be going out 76 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: there for this the Raiders and Packers will be coming 77 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: out for this game. It was interesting though, around the 78 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: building this last week hearing some of the players talking about, 79 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: you know, setting up their their passport, you know, going 80 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: through and having to do that. I had to do it. 81 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: I haven't had I haven't been out of the country 82 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: in fifteen years or ten, twelve years now, So it's 83 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: like I had to go through the process too, so 84 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: it's different. It's going to be a new experience. But hey, 85 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: I mean, anytime you can get up to the the 86 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: Great White North in August, you gotta take advantage of it. Yeah. Well, 87 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: getting back to the business at hand right now, for 88 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers, it is week three of O 89 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: T As. We had an opportunity on Tuesday of this 90 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: week to watch another practice practice that was open to 91 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: the public, open to the media. We got to see 92 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: head coach Matt Lafleur cruising around the practice field on 93 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: his golf cart and all that. We don't need to 94 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: get into that whole thing too much. He's obviously going 95 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: to hope that his recovery goes along as quickly as 96 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: possible so that he can be in a walking boot 97 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: and be able to get around in that fashion as 98 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: opposed to um the golf cart scenario as a training 99 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: camp unfolds later on. But uh, a big couple of 100 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: big highlights now again, as we talk about it's O 101 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: T A is there's no pads. We're only seeing one 102 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: practice a week. But if you had to point a 103 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: one offensive highlight from that practice on Tuesday, A heck 104 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: of a throw and catch Aaron Rodgers to Jimmy Graham 105 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: over the middle of the field. Preston Smith, the outside linebacker. 106 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: I thought he actually had pretty good coverage on the 107 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: play and the ball just in the perfect spot and 108 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham reaches out full extension and not only makes 109 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: the catch in his fingertips but keeps his feet and 110 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: you know, would have had a pretty monster gain. There 111 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: um interesting thoughts though. What I want to get to 112 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: about this with Jimmy Graham because we don't hear from 113 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: him much. He's not crazy about talking to the media, 114 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: which I personally think is unfortunate because the times I 115 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: have talked to him, I think he's a very engaging guy. 116 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: It's a very interesting guy, has a lot of a 117 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: lot of really intriguing things to say, and a good conversationalist. 118 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: But his choice. So we hear a lot about Jimmy 119 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: Graham from other people, and we heard one of the 120 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: things we heard from head coach Matt Lafleur after that 121 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: Tuesday practice was that Jimmy Graham is kind of a perfectionist. 122 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: He in learning this new offense and trying to do 123 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: everything right on the practice field. He gets kind of 124 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: down on himself when things don't go so well, and 125 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur said he's been trying to work on him 126 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: to say, hey, you know, you're a veteran leader on 127 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: this team. You know things are going to go wrong 128 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: when we're learning. Everybody's learning this thing from scratch and 129 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: learning it brand new. You just have to take it 130 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: in stride. You have to be a leader. He really 131 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: likes the energy and enthusiasm and everything that Jimmy Graham 132 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: brings to practice, but he's trying to channel it maybe 133 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: in a little bit different way, and I'll be interested 134 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: to see. Aaron Rodgers certainly spoke of a lot of 135 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: confidence that he's looking for a bounce back year from 136 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham. Yeah, Graham has made no bones about it. 137 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: I mean he wants to have a more successful two 138 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen than two thousand and eighteen. He talked about 139 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: at the end of last year, and then again he 140 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: mentioned it at his Cornell tournament this past weekend talking 141 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: with reporter that you know, he wants to be able 142 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: to bounce back. He feels like he can still run 143 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: the way he's always ran in certainly he's still six 144 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: ft seven and two ur and sixty pounds or whatever 145 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: he is. And it was interesting listening to Rogers disgust 146 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: Graham because he said, you know, one thing, and I 147 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: mentioned this at the end of last year. Graham didn't 148 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: talk to the media a lot, and he also didn't 149 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: make many excuses. He had a knee injury that we 150 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: saw happen. I think it was in a training camp 151 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: practice pretty early on that he ended up being on 152 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: the injury report for the entire year. The thumb got 153 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: a lot of interest late in the season because he 154 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: had to wear the splint, but the knee was basically 155 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: an issue for a while year long. Aaron Rodgers mentioned 156 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: he's back to being healthy again. It's one of the 157 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: reasons why he believes he's gonna have a lot more 158 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: successful two thousand nineteen in his second year with the 159 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: Packers and getting back to that plane practice, it was 160 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: It was interesting listening to Preston Smith talked about in 161 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: the locker room because he was actually kind of proud 162 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: of himself the way he originally handled the zone drop. 163 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: He thought he had help over the top, though, and 164 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: as he found out, he most certainly did and when 165 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: you're Jimmy Graham and you get that kind of mismatch, 166 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: that's what happens. So for for Graham to be able 167 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: to build on that, I think is going to be important. 168 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: And the other thing is too, Mike. You listen to 169 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: Robert Tonyan and you know some of these guys that 170 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: talk about him, uh in how open he is with 171 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: being able to to be sort of an open book. Yes, 172 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: he's incredibly hard on himself, wants to be a perfectionist, 173 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: but he's always there too for for the young tight ends. 174 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: I thought that was a really important thing last year 175 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: for Tanya and being able to work with Lewis and 176 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: also with Graham, and hearing Jay Sternberger talk a little 177 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: bit this past week, he also said that, you know, 178 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: he's been very similar in that capacity as well well. 179 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: A couple other things on Graham. I know Rogers downplayed it, 180 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: but you have to believe that the injury, the knee 181 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: injury you talked about with Graham, and obviously the knee 182 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: injury Rogers was dealing with right from week one last season. 183 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 1: There was a lot of missed practice time in there, 184 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: so I have to believe that that had an effect, 185 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: had an impact in some respect on what Jimmy Graham 186 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: was able to do in his first year with the Packers. 187 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: But the other reason I brought up the point that 188 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur made about kind of that perfectionist thing and 189 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 1: and how he's working so hard to do everything just 190 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: right the first time. It makes you wonder. At least 191 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: it makes me wonder. And I don't want to get 192 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: into a whole bunch of, you know, psychological analysis, but 193 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: you look at it, Jimmy Graham's first year with Seattle 194 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: when he left New Orleans was not all that good. 195 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: His first year with Green Bay was not up to 196 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: his standards. You wonder if this whole thing, this whole 197 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: thing about how he's been going about learning a new 198 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: offense and putting a lot of pressure on himself to 199 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: get everything right the first time and to be that 200 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: veteran guy that everybody needs to look to immediately, you know, 201 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: to to be the guy to follow. If that hasn't 202 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: worked his advantage, I guess, is what I'm saying. And 203 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: maybe now if Matt Lafleur is able to to channel 204 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: those things in in a little bit more positive direction, 205 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: if we might end and with good health, we might 206 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: see a little bit different dynamic between Aaron Rodgers and 207 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham and year two. I'm glad you brought that up, 208 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: because I wrote that article at the end of last season. 209 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: It was actually right after Graham made the comments of 210 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: that he wasn't happy with You know, the numbers are 211 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: what they are, but he wasn't happy with the way 212 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: he played. We tend to romanticize, and I'm guilty of 213 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: it too. The fans, in myself romanticized Jared Cook's time 214 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: his season in Green Bay. We think so much about 215 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: Dallas and how well he played in the playoffs and 216 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: down the stretch. You sometimes forget Jared Cook had like 217 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: three yards receiving that year before he had that injury 218 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: that kept him out for six weeks. He really had 219 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: sort of been a non factor through the first month 220 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: of the season. He came on against Washington and down 221 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: the stretch, but early on it was difficult so often, 222 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: and for good reason. I was talking about Brian Goodkin's 223 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: about this two weeks ago tight end position. It takes 224 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: time to learn as a rookie. It also takes time 225 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: to learn as a veteran, and for guys that are 226 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: moving into a new scheme in a new offense, and 227 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 1: I think that plays in't exactly what you're talking about. 228 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: Graham's second year in all those spots that you mentioned 229 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: was always were impactful than the first. So I think 230 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: being able to see what he can do now with 231 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: getting those reps with Rogers and them knocking on what 232 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: that he stays healthy, where that relationship goes in, what 233 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: kind of chemistry that generates on the field. Yeah, And 234 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: as I say, as much as we don't necessarily hear 235 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: from Graham directly in the media, we know he cares 236 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: about it. He takes a lot of pride in what 237 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: he does, and what little he has said about last season, 238 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,239 Speaker 1: he wasn't happy about it. So um, let's see what happens. 239 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: I mean, being able to see exactly where all these 240 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: young guys go. I think, for me, Mike and all 241 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: my time on the beat, this is the most exciting 242 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: the tight end room has been because it really does 243 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: seem to be a big emphasis on it based on 244 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: what we're seeing with Matt. Yeah, I think and and 245 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: and bringing in a third round draft pick as a 246 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: rookie and Sternberger to join the group. 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Just visit your local supermarket and 257 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: asked for Campbell's Chunky Soup, Official soup partner of the 258 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. Okay, getting back to Tuesday's open practice 259 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: and the highlights they're in. Defensively, an interception that probably 260 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: goes for a pick six, I would think the way 261 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: things looked on the practice field, Tim Boyle unfortunately got 262 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: picked off by linebacker James Crawford. Now the interesting thing 263 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: here because when I mentioned Tim Boyle and James Crawford, 264 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: obviously this is not a one's This was not a 265 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: ones versus ones eleven on eleven situation. But it's not 266 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: the first time in O T as we've seen James 267 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: Crawford intercepted pass. This is a young g This is 268 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: a young guy. Wes, second year out of the University 269 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: of Illinois and undrafted rookie a year ago who walked 270 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: into Packers training camp essentially two weeks late. He was 271 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: signed on August eight, the day before the first preseason game, 272 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: managed to make the fifty three man roster as an 273 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: undrafted rookie, became kind of a dynamo on special teams 274 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: for the Packers. Now, Blake Martinez and Oren Burks very 275 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: clearly the one too at inside linebacker right now in 276 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: Mike Patton's defense, but as far as the reinforcements behind, 277 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: James Crawford looking like he's in line to potentially be 278 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: the number three, to be the first guy called upon 279 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: um to replace one of those two if something were 280 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: to happen. He's uh that we hear the phrase a 281 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: lot making the most of your opportunity, It applies to 282 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: James Crawford, Uh, up and down the line here. Absolutely, 283 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: I want to talk about Crawford, but first off, I 284 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: just want to talk about how much. I love Tim Boyle. 285 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: We're in the media, myself and two other reporters were 286 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: in the media scrum. They're talking to to Crawford after 287 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: practice on on what would that be Wednesday? Tuesday, Isy, 288 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: and Boyle sneaks up behind h He's like, guys, it 289 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: was one interception. I mean, just it just one interception. 290 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: What's the big deal? And then he gave was making 291 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: a joke and then gave Crawford a little bit of 292 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: a high five on it. But I just I love Boil, 293 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: I love his disposition about things. But as far as 294 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 1: Crawford is concerned, what a jump? And again, you can't 295 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: We're not handing out trophies. We're not gonna, you know, 296 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: many camp wraps up here. We're not going to put 297 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: on tuxedos and give away our awards for the off 298 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: season program. But this is what you want to see 299 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: from a young man like this. And I asked him 300 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: about that too. Last year at this time, he wasn't 301 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: in Green Bay. He was ven close. He was still 302 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: two months away from getting to Green Bay. So he 303 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: said that, you know, he got here. I think it 304 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: was I want to say it was August six or 305 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: something like that was like a weeker and a week 306 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: and a half in and he had to pick up. 307 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: But the one thing he was able to go back 308 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: to was the special teams. Yeah, all the playbooks are difficult. 309 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: You and I can't just go out there and play 310 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: for a lot of reasons, but I mean we can't. 311 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: You can't just get in a camp and just expect 312 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: to be able to do everything right. But special teams 313 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: are the ones you can rely a little bit more 314 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: on instincts. I thought Crawford showed good instincts. I thought 315 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: you saw his aggressiveness in that game against Kansas City 316 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: is how he earned himself a roster spot. That being said, 317 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: the rest of the year was sort of trial and 318 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: error with him. This is a guy who started at 319 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: safety when he first got to Illinois, playing special teams 320 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: and doing a little bit of safety, ended up moving 321 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: to linebacker, finished his career at defensive end, and last 322 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: year was rotating between the inside and outside linebacker rooms. 323 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: Kirk Oliver Datti mentioned that, Okay, he said a little 324 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: bit more with the inside linebackers this year, and I 325 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: think that cross training, I think that experience making him 326 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: kind of fire all those waves in his head of 327 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: what his responsibilities are have made him a better player, 328 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: and he showed some playmaking ability. I didn't get any 329 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: comments I should have. I forgot to ask if he's 330 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: going to mention that to his uncle and see what 331 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: Charles Woodson would think of all those interceptions. But that 332 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: being said, it was pretty impressive to see him doing 333 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: that well. He had a really funny comment and talking 334 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: to you, because I listened to the audio of your 335 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: your interview with him with those other reporters that he 336 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: was kind of joking that last year when he was 337 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: brought in couple of weeks into training camp, he was 338 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: expected to know the playbook without ever having seen it, 339 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: Like he just has to get out there and you know, 340 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: and you know, on the third or fourth string defense 341 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: or whatever in camp and try to make some plays. 342 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: So being here throughout the whole offseason and kirkol of 343 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: a Dotty, the new inside linebackers coach, mentioned that putting 344 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: him an inside linebacker is the best place to learn 345 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: the defense because there are you don't It's not just 346 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: about your responsibility. When you're an inside linebacker, you have 347 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: to know a lot more about the defensive front. You 348 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: have to know about what the outside linebackers are doing. 349 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: You have to know what the safeties are doing behind you. 350 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: So he's absorbing all those xs and ohs right now 351 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: and certainly making making the most of what he's able 352 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: to do with the second string defense on the field 353 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: here in O. T A. S. But the interesting thing 354 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: when you look back at his rookie year, and I 355 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: was just I looked up the stats. We know it 356 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: wasn't a good year on special teams for the Green 357 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: Bay Packers and tea. But if there was a bright spot, 358 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: it was this guy. Thirteen coverage tackles, which was tops 359 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: on the team. He also had a fumble recovery on 360 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: special teams. And the other thing I looked up west 361 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: those twenty six special teams penalties the Packers had last year. 362 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: Crawford only had one out of those twenty six. It 363 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: was an illegal formation he lined up wrong on on 364 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: a certain play. But all of the the holding, an 365 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: illegal block in the back, and all those other penalties 366 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: that piled up on the Packers special teams last year, 367 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: he wasn't flagged for any of that. This is a 368 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: guy that I think Sean Menninger, the new special teams 369 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: coordinator is really going to be relying on to be 370 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: one of those bell cows on special teams. And then 371 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: Kirk Oliver Dott, he's going to continue to work with 372 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: him to learn the defense to be one of those 373 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,719 Speaker 1: next guys to step in at inside linebacker when they 374 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: need somebody. Yeah, and I like his body type too. 375 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: I mean you can kind of see me. He's not 376 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: a he's not a huge guy, but he sort of 377 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: has that movable athletic frame that lends itself to be 378 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: ineffective on special teams, but also if he gets called 379 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: in a pinch on defense. One story I want to 380 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: tell really quickly, going back to two thousand thirteen. It 381 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: seems like it's always the season I go back to. 382 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: But you're talking about how a guy comes in he's 383 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: expected to know the playbook right away. Packers had an 384 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: opening at safety. There was a guy who came in. 385 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: I don't even remember who what his name was. It 386 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: was like the first or second day at camp. I 387 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: think he was from Sacramento State. He was there for 388 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: two practices and I remember Joe Witt kept getting on. 389 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: It wasn't Joe Wyte, it was Joe Witt and Darren 390 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: Perry with some of the ball handling drills they were doing. 391 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: They kept getting on him. They mentioned his name a 392 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: couple of times. That young man was gone in like 393 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: a day or two. He was. If you either know 394 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: it or you don't, you gotta put in your hours, 395 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: you gotta stay up at night watch it. The next 396 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: guy to come in was Chris Banjo. Banjo wasn't even 397 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: the next guy up. He was the guy after the 398 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: next guy up. And for Banjo to come in did 399 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: the same thing that Crawford did, was able to pick 400 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: up what he needed to pick up, learn at the 401 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: pace he needed to learn, and then go from there. 402 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: The reason I bring up Banjo here is because I 403 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: think the Packers one thing they need to do this offseason. 404 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: I don't know who it's going to be, but I 405 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: think you need to have two or three, maybe even 406 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: four if you can find him on the roster. Have 407 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: those kind of spots for the Banjos, the Bushes, the Crawfords, 408 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: where you don't know exactly what their impact is going 409 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: to be on offense or defense, but guys that are 410 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: going to play the core for special teams units and 411 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: give you that versatility, give you that dependability. I think 412 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: a lot of times when these errors and these these 413 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: miscuse and these penalties flare up, is when you start 414 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: putting in new guys at new spots. If you have 415 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: somebody that takes the lead of that room, you know, 416 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: a leader, a charger, someone that's going to be able 417 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: to play discipline and show guys the way it needs 418 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: to be done. That's gonna make you better. The best 419 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: special teams units of Packers have had during my time 420 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: here have had those players. I think Crawfords a step 421 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: towards getting back to that. Yeah, And obviously it helps 422 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: when the players on offense and defense stay healthy because 423 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 1: then there isn't as much lineup shuffling, which then puts 424 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on special teams with all the 425 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: shifting around and and we've seen it when that happens, 426 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: it's very hard to have any kind of consistent special 427 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: teams play, and the Packers obviously looking to improve in 428 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: that area. But before we go here West, we started 429 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: the show to talking about our upcoming trip to Canada. 430 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: But there's a British invasion of lambeau Fai coming this weekend. 431 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: Sir Paul McCartney coming in with are you going to 432 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: the show? I'm not. I'm not either, but okay, well 433 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: my parents are going there and they're very excited. Okay, Well, 434 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: do they have a favorite Beatles song or a favorite 435 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: Paul McCartney song. You know, that's a great question. I 436 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: forgot to ask my mom. Hey, Jude was always played 437 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: in my house growing up. We joked about there are plenty, 438 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: plenty of great ones. Blackbird, the Blackbird one is my favorite. 439 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: That's you know. If if if I was in Green Bay, 440 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: I would be there, but some stuff came up here 441 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: that I will be out of town. But I I'm 442 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: very much looking forward to I know there's a lot 443 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: of people here excited about it. At some point here 444 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: in these upcoming years, I got to get to a 445 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: lambou Field event. I still haven't been to one. Yeah, 446 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: I went to the Billy Joel concert a couple of 447 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: years ago, but I will not be going to UH 448 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: to see Paul McCartney. Just for the record, I'm a 449 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: Penny Lane fan. The Fireman rushes in from the pouring rain. 450 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 1: It's very strange. I've always liked that's you that was 451 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: playing on the Would that be? Would that be the 452 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: like the disc spinner back there, to the turntable. Turntable 453 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: that was yeah, back in that day. Me showing my 454 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: young age here and not being able to get that 455 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: correct alright, Well, with that, we will call it a 456 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: wrap on this edition of Packers Unscript. Would be sure 457 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: to follow all of our coverage of the team on 458 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: Packers dot com on Twitter. He's at west Hot I'm 459 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: at Mike Spofford at Packers for the team account. Thanks 460 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: for tuning in, everybody, See you next time.