WEBVTT - First To Clinch

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<v Speaker 1>This crowd rises to speaking what Carl slam it out?

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<v Speaker 1>Carl left wing free ball perfect?

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<v Speaker 2>Then he left block the shot at the rim?

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<v Speaker 1>How with the left hand.

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<v Speaker 3>And of fowl. Welcome to the Chase Down Podcast, part

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<v Speaker 3>of the Caves Media family. I'm your host, Justin Rohan.

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<v Speaker 3>no commitment, and no chance that your Cleveland Cavaliers are

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<v Speaker 3>going to miss the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>They became the first team.

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<v Speaker 3>In the NBA to officially clinch a playoff spot with

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<v Speaker 3>their win over the Miami Heat. The winning streak is

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<v Speaker 3>up to twelve games, and my co host is Carter Rodriguez.

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<v Speaker 2>Carter, how you doing, buddy?

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<v Speaker 1>That was seamless, brother, man. I I'm doing good. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a really weird thing where you know, Justin,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say this team on as twelve game winning

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<v Speaker 1>streak might be slumping a little it's just this really

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<v Speaker 1>weird thing where you know they're not playing their best basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>And Mike Lucas, you know, kind of ask Kitty about

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<v Speaker 1>this as much in the post game, where he was

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of like, you know, I can't call it

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<v Speaker 1>a slump, but you know, it's not your best basketball

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<v Speaker 1>over the last couple of days. And you know, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, on one hand, obviously it's not crazy fun

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<v Speaker 1>that they're not playing their best basketball, but it's also,

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<v Speaker 1>in a weird way kind of fun because it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, normally, when a team is going through the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the four and six, three and four and

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<v Speaker 1>they're not their sharpest, you just lose and you're really

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<v Speaker 1>grumpy about it. And instead, we just have this team

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<v Speaker 1>that keeps finding ways to win, you know, in all

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<v Speaker 1>these different ways. And I know that some people are

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<v Speaker 1>sick of hearing the twenty fifteen twenty sixteen Warriors comparisons

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<v Speaker 1>with this team, but those teams did have a certain

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<v Speaker 1>air of inevitability to them, where it's like, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>how much the lead is, no matter how much you

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<v Speaker 1>fought back to take the lead, that they were always

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<v Speaker 1>going to be just lurking and waiting to knock you

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<v Speaker 1>out at the very last second, and every bounce would

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<v Speaker 1>go their way, every foot on the line would go

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<v Speaker 1>their way, and it just kind of feels like this

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<v Speaker 1>Cavs team just has that kind of destiny air about

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<v Speaker 1>them that is really really fun, and it's got to

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<v Speaker 1>be really frustrating for the other teams.

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<v Speaker 2>It's got to be frustrating. Carter.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I love you, buddy, but I think you're

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<v Speaker 3>missing the bigger picture here.

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<v Speaker 2>When we pass that win.

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<v Speaker 3>Over the Boston Celtics, we said, you know, that's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of the last real test. That's the last time we

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<v Speaker 3>play a real contender. The rest of the regular season

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be about trying some stuff, working on

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<v Speaker 3>things that you have to be ready for in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>They will present to you a theory. The Cleveland Cavaliers

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<v Speaker 3>realize they don't have a lot of experience closing games.

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<v Speaker 3>The starters don't get to play in fourth quarters very often,

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<v Speaker 3>not a lot of experience coming from behind, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, you let these teams hang around you,

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<v Speaker 3>You give yourself a challenge, you put yourself behind, and

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<v Speaker 3>then you come back and you win those games. That's

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<v Speaker 3>very clearly what's happening here.

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<v Speaker 1>Brother, It's a what a year, what a what an

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<v Speaker 1>unbelievable season, our boys, Ziggy had. I think my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>Calves stat of the year, which is that if you

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<v Speaker 1>if the Calves lost every game that wasn't a part

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<v Speaker 1>of these three game winning streaks, they'd still be the

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<v Speaker 1>three seed in the East. They have thirty nine wins

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<v Speaker 1>on win streaks this year. If the Lakers beat beat

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<v Speaker 1>New York tomorrow and and the Calves win their next one,

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<v Speaker 1>they would be forty games in win streaks. They would

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<v Speaker 1>be the two seed. Like It's an unbelievable number of streaks.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, only the second team in NBA history to

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<v Speaker 1>have three win streaks of twelve or more. This team

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<v Speaker 1>is just unbelievable. What a run. I keep thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>like DeAndre Hunter and just what he must think every

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<v Speaker 1>day going to work.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess this is my new life.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I just never lose ever again. It's got

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<v Speaker 3>to be a good feeling. And you know, speaking of

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<v Speaker 3>DeAndre Hunter, I was thinking about his addition to the

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<v Speaker 3>team and kind of how it's helped us throughout this stretch,

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<v Speaker 3>because I really do feel like he's solidified this rotation

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<v Speaker 3>We've seen a couple of games now where you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Donovan Ress, Mobiley rest, he slides into the starting lineup

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<v Speaker 3>and has helped contribute in so many different ways. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think that what we have currently seen, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>since the Boston game, these last couple of wins, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think it's too dissimilar to some of the losing

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<v Speaker 3>streaks that we've had this season, because those losing streaks

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<v Speaker 3>have been games that have come down to the wire, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Like you think of the Houston game where it's DG

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<v Speaker 3>missing some free throws, just a little mistake at the end,

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<v Speaker 3>Mobiley wasn't there. The Indiana game where we're up big

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<v Speaker 3>in the third quarter, they're missing some guys, we blow

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<v Speaker 3>that lead, and we just don't have enough to kind

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<v Speaker 3>of get back, you know, get our grip of the

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<v Speaker 3>rope back at that point. I think now, because to

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<v Speaker 3>your point that you've brought up several times, we don't

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<v Speaker 3>have any lineups that suck like. It just has insulated

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<v Speaker 3>us so much further. It has flipped the margin, that

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<v Speaker 3>very very thin margin that you know, some of those

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<v Speaker 3>very close losses that they've had, you know, didn't go

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<v Speaker 3>in their favor. Now it's going the other way. Now

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have a weak lineup where hey, the starters

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<v Speaker 3>didn't really have it, which honestly, starting lineup wasn't very

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<v Speaker 3>good tonight. They did not play well against Miami. In

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<v Speaker 3>the past, you may have that and then oh they

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<v Speaker 3>were able to pick on the bench line up and

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<v Speaker 3>build that lead. Now because you don't have that ability

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<v Speaker 3>as an when you're playing the Calves, it makes it

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<v Speaker 3>so much harder to actually build upon your successes and

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<v Speaker 3>put the Calves in a big enough hole that they

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<v Speaker 3>can't crawl out of.

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<v Speaker 1>I do have to fact check you real quick. Justin

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<v Speaker 1>my turn, you mentioned Calves losing streaks, so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I don't recall they haven't had one one of.

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<v Speaker 3>Those patches, those little patches you know of, like three

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<v Speaker 3>and five or whatever, like, Yes, a lot of those

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<v Speaker 3>have been very thin margins.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw an opportunity to tease that, Yeah, they've lost

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<v Speaker 1>two in a row only twice this year and three

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<v Speaker 1>in a row only once. Uh So, depending on your

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<v Speaker 1>your definition of streak, which I know can be uh,

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<v Speaker 1>can can can be uh.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's definite, it's three in a row winning streak

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<v Speaker 3>or losing streak. It's three in a row. Major League

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<v Speaker 3>has defined that, Carter, you cannot you can't refute that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, an all time Cleveland sports movie should be the

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<v Speaker 1>one to uh to set the uh to set the

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<v Speaker 1>record at.

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<v Speaker 2>The end of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you're right, I mean, and uh we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about all the versatility that Hunter gives them.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought this was another a little thing. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>remember last year when they signed Marcus Morris and I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned that it was nice having, you know, a forward

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<v Speaker 1>on the roster that wasn't just a three or at

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<v Speaker 1>the rim guy, right, you know, it felt nice just

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<v Speaker 1>to know that, not that you want to build the

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<v Speaker 1>whole plane out of it, but it was nice to

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<v Speaker 1>know that Marcus Morris could pump fake from the corner

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<v Speaker 1>if they closed out hard, he could pump take two

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<v Speaker 1>dribbles in and then hit a MIDI and like be

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<v Speaker 1>relatively comfortable with that in between game and like we

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<v Speaker 1>even saw that in the playoffs, Like, I mean, he

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<v Speaker 1>had a couple of really good games for us, just

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<v Speaker 1>being that kind of shooter, being that kind of in

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<v Speaker 1>between creator and watching this game where Miami is in

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<v Speaker 1>the zone, they're sinking way back towards the rim. Jarrett's

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<v Speaker 1>not having his most impactful night, coming off a night

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<v Speaker 1>where he was unbelievable against Chicago, which we'll hit on,

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<v Speaker 1>but instead you're just hitting Hunter in that soft pocket

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<v Speaker 1>and he makes the right call like three or four times,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's a guy who you want to rise up

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<v Speaker 1>for that open twelve foot mid range jumper, and like

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<v Speaker 1>that is one of the first times because like he's

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<v Speaker 1>been a really good cavalier so far, obviously, but Harris

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<v Speaker 1>and George hit threes, you know. I felt like, in

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<v Speaker 1>a way tonight was one of the first times we

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<v Speaker 1>really saw that part of the offensive skill set be

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<v Speaker 1>reeling meaningful and be a little different than what we

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<v Speaker 1>had before. Is that Do you agree with that?

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<v Speaker 2>I do? It was one of my main notes from

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<v Speaker 2>this game.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought the fact that from the start, like Kenny's

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<v Speaker 3>talked about this in the past, where the two coaches

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<v Speaker 3>that run the most zone are he and Eric Spolster,

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<v Speaker 3>and dating back to when he was in Brooklyn, And

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<v Speaker 3>I thought Richard Jefferson made a really good point on

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<v Speaker 3>the broadcast where he was saying, the Cavs know exactly

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<v Speaker 3>how they're going to tag zone as soon as they

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<v Speaker 3>see Miami go to that zone, they have DeAndre Hunter

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<v Speaker 3>come up to the elbow. They had designated him as

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<v Speaker 3>that zone buster, and we've talked about in the past

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<v Speaker 3>how it was really important for Evan Mobley to hit

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<v Speaker 3>kind of that free throw line jumper, because when teams

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<v Speaker 3>are sagging off, when teams are going to zone, you

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<v Speaker 3>need to have that front court player that's consistently and

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<v Speaker 3>reliably able to hit that shot. And I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>such a benefit to have DeAndre Hunter have that capability where, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>DJ can get easy assists by just hitting him quickly there.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the anchor of the zone isn't able to

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<v Speaker 3>come up in time. If they do flash up quick enough,

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<v Speaker 3>he has the ability to quickly kind of get that

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<v Speaker 3>first step around him and just wonderable to the basket

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<v Speaker 3>and finish. I thought it was a really really interesting

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<v Speaker 3>wrinkle and just how confidently they would go to that

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<v Speaker 3>as soon as Miami would throw the zone. I thought

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<v Speaker 3>that that was really really noteworthy from this game.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought they also opened up a little bit of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they where.

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<v Speaker 1>Fiji made a really tight quarters pass to Hunter when

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<v Speaker 1>they were in the middle of a switch and Davion

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<v Speaker 1>Mitchell kind of got caught on Hunter's back hip. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was a really nice like, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>teams are going to switch their bigger wings onto Darius

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<v Speaker 1>and try to gum up the rhythm. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>can slip those actions, if you can just get like

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of gap space between and get Hunter

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<v Speaker 1>the ball with a little bit of runway towards the hoop,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that could really pay dividends. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>me and you have also talked about how I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think you know, neither of us feel like Hunter is

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<v Speaker 1>the best playmaker. What's really nice about this Calves team,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've said it a lot, is like it's just

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<v Speaker 1>not that hard to play good basketball with this Cavs team.

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<v Speaker 1>So he I mean, he found MOBILEI on that alley

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<v Speaker 1>oop where I was about says, maybe he's ever thrown

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<v Speaker 1>that that might be an initiation moment of you, you

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<v Speaker 1>finally arrived as a Cleveland Cavalier. You found MOBILEI trailing

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<v Speaker 1>in the dunker spot for a lob, right like that.

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<v Speaker 3>You're you're right that that was such just a you know,

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<v Speaker 3>an instinct play from him, uh to to find Mobile

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<v Speaker 3>in that spot in a big moment.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really really nice.

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<v Speaker 3>I liked what we got from DeAndre Hunter, and again

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<v Speaker 3>we saw another example of hey, Jared's not having a

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<v Speaker 3>good night. Miami's playing really small. You know, Bam is

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<v Speaker 3>anchoring them at at six' nine and they have a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of. Wings jared's not having a great. Game so

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<v Speaker 3>let's close with With, Donovan, Darius, Max, DeAndre And evan

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<v Speaker 3>like having that flexibility to, hey someone doesn't have it.

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<v Speaker 3>Going we can close this. Way and particularly when you

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<v Speaker 3>look at the teams that they've played, recently a lot

0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.960
<v Speaker 3>of them are, downsized, right and some of that, is you,

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<v Speaker 3>know just the availability of who they've had on their.

0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:25.280
<v Speaker 3>Roster you look at the injury reports For chicago And,

0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:28.480
<v Speaker 3>miami it's. Extensive there's not a lot of kind of

0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:31.680
<v Speaker 3>choices or levers for those coaches to. Play so for

0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:34.560
<v Speaker 3>them just downsizing on, necessity The cats are.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, okay we have an answer for. That we can

0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:36.800
<v Speaker 2>go to that pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>Easily, yeah they they have so much roster. Versatility they and,

0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:49.360
<v Speaker 1>like downsize is probably not even the right word Because

0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:50.839
<v Speaker 1>hunter is his, biggest most power.

0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:53.119
<v Speaker 2>Forwards fair, point.

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<v Speaker 1>You, know they're still playing a pretty big lineup out

0:12:56.559 --> 0:13:00.640
<v Speaker 1>there and they can you, know they they can still

0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:02.560
<v Speaker 1>gum things. UP i, thought you, know they won this,

0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:05.520
<v Speaker 1>game not with their. Offense they want it on the

0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:09.360
<v Speaker 1>defensive end of the. Ball they they made timely stops and,

0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.760
<v Speaker 1>yeah it wasn't. Pretty uh you, Know donovan gets stripped

0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:14.160
<v Speaker 1>By Kyli, anderson.

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<v Speaker 2>Who terrific defensive play by.

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<v Speaker 1>It JUST i just Love Kyle anderson's.

0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:18.440
<v Speaker 2>Game.

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<v Speaker 1>MAN i just think he's such a. Winner both love. It, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>YEAH i think he's a. Winner and, like you, know

0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:29.680
<v Speaker 1>it showed in his. MINUTES i, mean seven to eleven

0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:33.800
<v Speaker 1>and seven for him in just twenty six. MINUTES i, thought,

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<v Speaker 1>uh you, know so The calves didn't finish, perfectly BUT

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<v Speaker 1>i did think they like they locked in and got

0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:42.440
<v Speaker 1>stops at the right. Time they they ran guys off the,

0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Line they made guys take that extra, step and, LIKE i,

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<v Speaker 1>know like this is LIKE i don't, know maybe a

0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.840
<v Speaker 1>little silly to, say but you, Know Duncan robinson steps

0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:54.120
<v Speaker 1>out of out of, bounds and you know part of

0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:57.000
<v Speaker 1>that is that The calves were like really pressuring that.

0:13:57.120 --> 0:14:00.160
<v Speaker 1>PLAY i, mean you, know like they were made and

0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:04.320
<v Speaker 1>they were Making miami. Work, true by the, way any.

0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Thoughts do you think they would have. FILED i don't think,

0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.960
<v Speaker 1>so because you, KNOW i. DON'T i didn't feel like

0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:16.280
<v Speaker 1>fouling up three worked crazy well for them Against gosh

0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:16.719
<v Speaker 1>was It.

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<v Speaker 3>Portland, yeah it was a full eighteen. SECONDS i kind

0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:22.880
<v Speaker 3>of felt like they were going to play it. Out

0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:25.320
<v Speaker 3>it didn't look like they. Were they were scrambling to

0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:27.920
<v Speaker 3>foul in that. Instance it didn't look like it to me,

0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:31.520
<v Speaker 3>either WHICH i was because because when you think back

0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:34.200
<v Speaker 3>to That portland, game they fouled on the catch, right

0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:37.360
<v Speaker 3>like we're playing you uptight where we're going to foul

0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:38.840
<v Speaker 3>you on the. Catch we're not going to allow you

0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:40.520
<v Speaker 3>to get a shot. Off we're going not going to

0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:44.200
<v Speaker 3>make the same mistake As Detroit. Duncan robinson caught the.

0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:47.320
<v Speaker 3>BALL i think he even dribbled once and then turned

0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:50.040
<v Speaker 3>and shot right like he happened to have stepped out of.

0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:53.200
<v Speaker 3>Bounds but when you look At portland.

0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:53.840
<v Speaker 2>As there was right.

0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:58.080
<v Speaker 3>There, yeah the foul occurs in that time if that's

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<v Speaker 3>what you're intentionally. Doing so don't think they would have

0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:03.600
<v Speaker 3>in that. Spot but you, KNOW i think it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>a good. Win LIKE i agree with, YOU i do

0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:07.960
<v Speaker 3>feel like they're in a bit of a. Slump some

0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:10.760
<v Speaker 3>of that, is you, know individual guys being in a.

0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:13.880
<v Speaker 3>Slump we'll talk About darius in a, moment BECAUSE i

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<v Speaker 3>think that's obviously going to be a big part of.

0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.560
<v Speaker 3>It we talked about all season how when you look

0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:23.080
<v Speaker 3>at the, numbers the offense goes With. Darius so When

0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:26.720
<v Speaker 3>darius is playing poorly and he's shooting, poorly you're going

0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:29.000
<v Speaker 3>to have some regression on that offensive end of the.

0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:32.600
<v Speaker 3>Court BUT i think it's a good win Because, miami

0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:36.040
<v Speaker 3>no matter who they have, available you know that that's

0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:37.600
<v Speaker 3>going to be a team that's going to play really.

0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.080
<v Speaker 3>Hard they're going to be really well, Coached they're going

0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:43.360
<v Speaker 3>to have a game plan ready for. You and you,

0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:46.760
<v Speaker 3>know The cavs are eleven and two this. Season on

0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:49.080
<v Speaker 3>the second night of a back to, back that's an

0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:52.240
<v Speaker 3>incredibly encouraging. Sign their only, losses.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially on a night like tonight Where miami was did

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<v Speaker 1>not play, yesterday.

0:15:56.600 --> 0:16:00.320
<v Speaker 3>There are only two losses are both examples of that

0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:03.240
<v Speaker 3>where the other team did not play the night. Before

0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:06.040
<v Speaker 3>and guess who they? Were very try hard Teams The

0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:09.960
<v Speaker 3>Miami heat and The Houston. Rockets, yeah those are teams

0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:12.200
<v Speaker 3>that can get, you BUT i believe on the road

0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:17.080
<v Speaker 3>for BOTH i believe so, yeah The calves being in

0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:19.840
<v Speaker 3>this spot WHERE i think The houston one was at

0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:22.360
<v Speaker 3>home matching now THAT i think about, it but this

0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:25.320
<v Speaker 3>is another one of those indicators of them being an

0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:29.880
<v Speaker 3>incredibly good. Team really really good teams take care of

0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:31.840
<v Speaker 3>business on the second night of a back to back

0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:35.240
<v Speaker 3>or in three and four, situations really really good teams

0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:37.680
<v Speaker 3>win on the. Road The calves have the best winning

0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:41.000
<v Speaker 3>percentage and the best record on the road this. Season

0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:44.560
<v Speaker 3>the second place team is The Boston, celtics and that's

0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:46.720
<v Speaker 3>noteworthy that The caves are better on the road Than

0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:49.520
<v Speaker 3>boston Because boston the better road team than they are

0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:52.440
<v Speaker 3>a home. Team so not only do The cavs have

0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:54.520
<v Speaker 3>the best record in the, league not only do they

0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:56.840
<v Speaker 3>have a great record on the second night of back to,

0:16:56.920 --> 0:17:00.000
<v Speaker 3>backs not only do they have the best road, record

0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:03.040
<v Speaker 3>they're just, really really damn good in every single way

0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:05.800
<v Speaker 3>you look at. It they have an elite offense against elite,

0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:08.679
<v Speaker 3>defenses they have e leite defense against the elite. Offenses

0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.760
<v Speaker 3>this team is really damn, good AND i don't think

0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:14.119
<v Speaker 3>it's a coincidence that they were the first team to

0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:14.879
<v Speaker 3>clinch a playoff.

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<v Speaker 1>Spot, YEAH i mean they're eight games up on the

0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:22.320
<v Speaker 1>forty four and eighteen boss In. CELTICS i, MEAN i,

0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:25.280
<v Speaker 1>know it's. Funny you would THINK i would get bored

0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:28.200
<v Speaker 1>of reading all the different ways just to basically say

0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:30.640
<v Speaker 1>that The cabs are fifty two to, ten And i'm

0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:33.719
<v Speaker 1>not getting. Bored i'm having a lot of, fun just

0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:37.160
<v Speaker 1>like looking at all these different contextual, things looking at

0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:41.000
<v Speaker 1>this team's, raw this team's, record because, AGAIN i just

0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:44.640
<v Speaker 1>think it's really really. Special there's just there's so many

0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:46.720
<v Speaker 1>great things that are happening with The, cavs and sometimes

0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:48.280
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0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:07.840
<v Speaker 1>want to talk about on this game before we move

0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:09.600
<v Speaker 1>to The chicago, Game BECAUSE i got a couple takes

0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:10.320
<v Speaker 1>from The chicago.

0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:13.520
<v Speaker 3>Game the only other thing THAT i kind of had

0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:17.199
<v Speaker 3>noted with this game and something That i'm going to

0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:18.959
<v Speaker 3>be keeping an eye on IS i found it was

0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:22.920
<v Speaker 3>interesting That kenny changed up the substitution. PATTERN i think

0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:25.400
<v Speaker 3>that's something that we really need to continue to keep

0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:28.399
<v Speaker 3>an eye on of when he uses guys because we

0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:32.240
<v Speaker 3>don't have a big sample of everybody being. AVAILABLE i

0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:35.320
<v Speaker 3>thought it was Noteworthy Dean wade And Isaac ocrro check

0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:38.280
<v Speaker 3>in in the second. Quarter like Normally Dean wade is

0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:41.719
<v Speaker 3>a first quarter. Sub this, game he opted to go

0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:45.119
<v Speaker 3>With Sam merril And Ty jerome And DeAndre hunter coming

0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:47.359
<v Speaker 3>in off the bench, first and then it Was isaac

0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:48.359
<v Speaker 3>And dean subbing in.

0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:51.280
<v Speaker 2>Together in The chicago, game.

0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:54.320
<v Speaker 3>It Was isaac And Javonte green checking in, together which

0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:57.880
<v Speaker 3>was just, Like, hey we're going to throw defensive nightmares

0:18:57.880 --> 0:18:59.959
<v Speaker 3>at you and they're going to be, really really. Active

0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:03.960
<v Speaker 3>BUT i ACTUALLY i thought That isaac And dean gave

0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:06.920
<v Speaker 3>them really good minutes when they checked in in that second.

0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:10.000
<v Speaker 3>Quarter they really started to get some stops, there and

0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:12.639
<v Speaker 3>that's when you saw them build up that second quarter.

0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:17.080
<v Speaker 3>Lead SO i don't, know we don't have enough information

0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:19.280
<v Speaker 3>to really get a sense of what the rotation is

0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:21.719
<v Speaker 3>going to be when they're fully. Healthy BUT i just

0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:25.119
<v Speaker 3>wanted to kind of highlight that and just something for you,

0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:27.679
<v Speaker 3>know us and our listeners to keep an eye on

0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:28.359
<v Speaker 3>with these future.

0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:34.240
<v Speaker 1>Games here's another rotational. Thought enough more no center lineups getting.

0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:37.399
<v Speaker 1>Run there was a stretch Where dean was playing the,

0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Five DeAndre was at the. Four you, Know jared only

0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:44.600
<v Speaker 1>played twenty five minutes tonight obviously just wasn't really his night.

0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Overall but like part of me, wonders, because like in the,

0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:55.320
<v Speaker 1>past it's been a very by necessity, lineup like either you,

0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:59.679
<v Speaker 1>know someone's, hurt someone's in foul, trouble you, know whatever

0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:04.560
<v Speaker 1>it may, be, uh or it's the team is just

0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:08.240
<v Speaker 1>playing horrific basketball And kenny wants to try. Something those

0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:13.280
<v Speaker 1>are been like the three precursors for the no center

0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:16.919
<v Speaker 1>on the floor lineups for The. Cabs part of me

0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:20.480
<v Speaker 1>wonders If kenny is thinking a little bit more long

0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:26.040
<v Speaker 1>term about that and getting them some extra run for

0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:29.280
<v Speaker 1>a playoff, run you, know because who knows If jared

0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:31.399
<v Speaker 1>Or evan is going to miss a playoff game and

0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:33.919
<v Speaker 1>you want foul trouble or get in foul trouble or

0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:38.119
<v Speaker 1>whatever it may. Be and you you don't, want you,

0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:40.959
<v Speaker 1>know those five, some especially With hunter on the, floor

0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:43.880
<v Speaker 1>to be really getting their first run in those. Spots

0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:47.000
<v Speaker 1>so just just an idle thought of whether that's you,

0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:49.080
<v Speaker 1>know it's hard to know Because jared didn't have his

0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:52.000
<v Speaker 1>best game. Today, YEAH i, mean how many games Does

0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:53.679
<v Speaker 1>jared have more field goal attempts than?

0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:54.800
<v Speaker 2>Points it's like.

0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:59.879
<v Speaker 1>Never but but, yeah just that's my last little observation

0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:02.480
<v Speaker 1>on the heat. Game can we move over to the balls?

0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, WELL i was just, gonna you, know comment on that.

0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:08.600
<v Speaker 3>Is you know, what maybe some of it, Is, Hey

0:21:08.760 --> 0:21:10.960
<v Speaker 3>jared's not at one hundred, percent like he's playing with

0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:13.600
<v Speaker 3>a rap on his. Hand if you were playing with

0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:15.240
<v Speaker 3>a rap on your hand and your hand was feeling

0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:17.680
<v Speaker 3>one hundred, percent it's still going to throw you off

0:21:17.720 --> 0:21:18.080
<v Speaker 3>a little.

0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:20.520
<v Speaker 2>Bit and you, know maybe.

0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:23.200
<v Speaker 3>Second night of a back to back there's some swordness

0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:25.879
<v Speaker 3>there or whatever the case may. Be he obviously was

0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:29.879
<v Speaker 3>phenomenal Against, chicago but maybe it. Is, hey you, know

0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:32.600
<v Speaker 3>this is probably a spot where if we could Buy

0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:35.040
<v Speaker 3>jared a little bit more, rest if we could not

0:21:35.240 --> 0:21:38.440
<v Speaker 3>overly tax, him let's take a long term. Approach this

0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:41.680
<v Speaker 3>is an opportunity to experiment with some. Things let's go

0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:44.560
<v Speaker 3>with some of these No jared No evan, lineups like

0:21:45.119 --> 0:21:47.040
<v Speaker 3>who knows kind of what the thinking is, there BUT

0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:49.520
<v Speaker 3>i think that there's you, know a variety of things

0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:51.119
<v Speaker 3>that could lead to that.

0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:54.280
<v Speaker 1>Decision and that's why, coaching even the stuff we think

0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:58.760
<v Speaker 1>we can easily, interpret like, rotations is always going to

0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:02.040
<v Speaker 1>be a bit of a Black bob. Yep moving to

0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:06.080
<v Speaker 1>That bulls game JUSTIN i gotta, say you, know that

0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:10.359
<v Speaker 1>game was. Ugly you, know it was The cavs just

0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:14.240
<v Speaker 1>were not Guarding Talen. Horton tucker was on his revenge

0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:19.040
<v Speaker 1>store against the. World he was in the role Of

0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:23.399
<v Speaker 1>Zachary resche in that game where it just borrowed shooter

0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:23.960
<v Speaker 1>that can't.

0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:25.000
<v Speaker 2>Miss, YEAH i.

0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Mean couldn't, miss Couldn't it was getting to the rim

0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:32.320
<v Speaker 1>every time he. Wanted you, Know collins was having a great.

0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Game it was just not their. Game and then they

0:22:36.119 --> 0:22:39.639
<v Speaker 1>score thirty two points in five. Minutes AND i was

0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:43.760
<v Speaker 1>sitting there thinking watching that fourth, quarter watching that seven

0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:47.919
<v Speaker 1>minute to two minutes stretching the fourth just giggling at

0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:50.240
<v Speaker 1>WHAT i was. Watching AND i left it feeling LIKE

0:22:50.680 --> 0:22:54.879
<v Speaker 1>i think that is my new favorite. Cavalanche it was

0:22:55.040 --> 0:22:58.200
<v Speaker 1>not the most important cavalanche that has. Happened they've had

0:22:58.240 --> 0:23:03.800
<v Speaker 1>way more high stakes. Ones they've had probably better like individual.

0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:08.479
<v Speaker 1>Play but there's something About Javonte green launching a logo

0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:11.560
<v Speaker 1>three and it barely even hitting the. Net it was

0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:16.320
<v Speaker 1>so pure and like it was just like every possession

0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:21.280
<v Speaker 1>down a different really fun thing happened and, felt you,

0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:25.080
<v Speaker 1>know like with this, TEAM i do think they're so

0:23:25.280 --> 0:23:28.879
<v Speaker 1>fueled by joy and not fueled by you, know like

0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:31.439
<v Speaker 1>all right now it's time to get serious. Boys you,

0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Know like that's not like their energy when they when

0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:37.760
<v Speaker 1>they turn it. On and like Even jared like kind

0:23:37.760 --> 0:23:40.200
<v Speaker 1>of having That i'm, Him i'm him moment and then

0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:43.560
<v Speaker 1>he breaks it out. Laughing he couldn't hold it for three, seconds,

0:23:43.880 --> 0:23:46.440
<v Speaker 1>LIKE i don't, know, man that was my ABSOLUTELY i

0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:49.159
<v Speaker 1>think it's my new new favorite cavalanche after probably the

0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:52.440
<v Speaker 1>original one against The pacers With kevin Hitting jetty in

0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:53.680
<v Speaker 1>the corner with behind the back.

0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:56.240
<v Speaker 2>Pass. Yeah, Man and we should probably get To kevin

0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:58.040
<v Speaker 2>and in just a little bit, here.

0:23:57.920 --> 0:24:02.800
<v Speaker 3>But you're, Right and but that run Against chicago kind

0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:05.879
<v Speaker 3>of made me think about BECAUSE i was thinking to you,

0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:08.640
<v Speaker 3>know our analysis from the past couple of years where

0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:11.840
<v Speaker 3>we talked about how The cavs secret and the reason

0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:14.399
<v Speaker 3>why they're so good is they play really, hard like

0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:17.119
<v Speaker 3>they're connected all the. Time this isn't a team that

0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:21.280
<v Speaker 3>can just kind of flip the, switch you, know when

0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:24.000
<v Speaker 3>we think back to two years ago with a twenty

0:24:24.000 --> 0:24:26.280
<v Speaker 3>two to twenty three, seasons not a ton of depth

0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:28.880
<v Speaker 3>on the roster at that time because they just made

0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:32.399
<v Speaker 3>a consolidation. Trade so WHEN i look at that run Against,

0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:36.440
<v Speaker 3>chicago it kind of like resonated with me, that, oh

0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:38.280
<v Speaker 3>we're now at that point where we can kind of

0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:41.200
<v Speaker 3>flip the. Switch we have enough, depth we have that.

0:24:41.359 --> 0:24:45.720
<v Speaker 3>ABILITY i don't THINK i don't like that. Either i'm just, saying,

0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:48.520
<v Speaker 3>like we now, have you, know that level of, talent

0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:51.199
<v Speaker 3>that level experience where, hey there's a little bit of

0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:55.359
<v Speaker 3>switch flipping. HERE i do still, think echoing back to

0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:57.720
<v Speaker 3>WHAT i said at the start of the, PODCAST i

0:24:57.760 --> 0:25:01.640
<v Speaker 3>think how we're playing right now is, very very similar

0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:04.440
<v Speaker 3>to how we played in some of those funks and

0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:07.800
<v Speaker 3>some of those lulls and slumps in the. Season And

0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:12.040
<v Speaker 3>i'm very interested to see do we correct that before

0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:15.359
<v Speaker 3>it bites, us before you, know we lose two out of,

0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:18.280
<v Speaker 3>three or before we have a loss to a team

0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:22.480
<v Speaker 3>that we shouldn't lose against without that negative reinforcement as

0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:25.600
<v Speaker 3>an end result from the, game are we able to

0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:28.560
<v Speaker 3>kind of correct things and get out of those slumps

0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:32.240
<v Speaker 3>and amend some of those bad, habits or does the

0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:35.360
<v Speaker 3>fact that we keep getting positive reinforcement with these comeback

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:38.600
<v Speaker 3>wins end up resulting in us having one of those

0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:42.000
<v Speaker 3>prolonged slumps that takes us off that pace that we're

0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:44.680
<v Speaker 3>keeping an eye on, Of, hey can they get sixty seven?

0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:47.840
<v Speaker 3>Wins that's that's Something i'm really interested in BECAUSE i

0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:51.919
<v Speaker 3>feel like that first slump that we had came directly

0:25:51.960 --> 0:25:54.960
<v Speaker 3>after we had a few comeback wins and games where you,

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:57.040
<v Speaker 3>know we just kind of took over in the fourth

0:25:57.080 --> 0:25:59.240
<v Speaker 3>quarter after not playing our best basketball.

0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Before, YEAH i, mean it's definitely a consideration because it's

0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:09.439
<v Speaker 1>not just the The Portland Chicago. MIAMI i don't think

0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:11.440
<v Speaker 1>they've played that good of a game against The. CELTICS

0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:16.959
<v Speaker 1>i think they had great. Moments there were moments of,

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:21.119
<v Speaker 1>Greatness but you, know our our dear friendiation in the

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 1>discord AND i were kind of going back and forth

0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:25.919
<v Speaker 1>in our game thread channel during that just being like

0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:30.159
<v Speaker 1>quit playing the dribble Against Jason tatum when all he

0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 1>wants is to step, back you, Know, like, yeah the

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:36.320
<v Speaker 1>little DETAILS i thought was were not as sharp Against

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:38.399
<v Speaker 1>boston as they have been in the.

0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:40.119
<v Speaker 2>Past you.

0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:42.760
<v Speaker 1>KNOW i just so, LIKE i don't think this is

0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 1>just a matter of they just were kind of playing

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:47.679
<v Speaker 1>with their. FOOD i think they're they're going through a

0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:49.720
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a stretch where they're just not quite as,

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:55.520
<v Speaker 1>sharp which is, like you, know, normal and like normally

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:57.439
<v Speaker 1>it's way less fun than, this AS i kind of

0:26:57.440 --> 0:27:00.399
<v Speaker 1>said at the beginning of the. Podcast so, yeah it

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:04.399
<v Speaker 1>was definitely it was like the most fun switch flip.

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:07.720
<v Speaker 1>Possible you. Know it was like, okay and it felt

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 1>like all they needed to do is lock in on

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:14.919
<v Speaker 1>defense and then everything just started unlocking for. Them you,

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:18.160
<v Speaker 1>know they got, running they got you, Know jared got

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:20.960
<v Speaker 1>going with a couple two way plays and oh my,

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:23.199
<v Speaker 1>goodness Was jared good in that. GAME i mean that

0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:26.320
<v Speaker 1>was kind of my wider, segue which is WHEN i

0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:31.200
<v Speaker 1>watch him do that justin SOMETIMES i think you need

0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 1>to shoot, More, jared like because the touch with his

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 1>left hand as he's catching in traffic and stepping through

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:45.399
<v Speaker 1>and protecting the ball and like in weaving through the

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:49.720
<v Speaker 1>traffic to. Finish some of those finishes were. Unbelievable and

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:56.680
<v Speaker 1>SOMETIMES i forget how good his touch is in in

0:27:56.720 --> 0:28:00.239
<v Speaker 1>a not you, know in that traffic. Environment you. KNOW

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:04.119
<v Speaker 1>i think Sometimes jared can have games where it's like

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:07.119
<v Speaker 1>if they're in front of, him he just kind of

0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:12.200
<v Speaker 1>keeps the ball moving and doesn't play like. Selfishly, Yeah

0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 1>and in a game Where evan's, out you kind of

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:18.879
<v Speaker 1>see him be, like, Well i'm going to need to

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:20.760
<v Speaker 1>like Be i'm going to need to attack WHEN i

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:24.400
<v Speaker 1>get the. Ball as a role, MAN i can't look

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 1>to play team. BALL i just got to attack the

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 1>hoop And i've left that. Game she's being Like, jared

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:33.439
<v Speaker 1>like you can do that against a lot of.

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:34.359
<v Speaker 2>Teams.

0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 3>Yep, Yeah and you, know SOMETIMES i think it's on.

0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 3>Him sometimes you, know it's, hey maybe they needed a

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 3>reminder of What jared can. Do and you, know often

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 3>with big, men they're reliant on other people to defeed

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 3>them the, ball, Right AND i think one of the

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 3>great things About jared is he's able to recognize what

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 3>the defense is giving him as. Well like it wasn't

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 3>just that he had twenty five and seventeen on the

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 3>night Against, chicago had three, assists by the, Way oh my, God,

0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 3>yeah that's. Insane he also but he also had you,

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:09.080
<v Speaker 3>know three assists because he can recognize when the defense

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:11.240
<v Speaker 3>is trying to cheat and take things away from him

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:14.280
<v Speaker 3>and find the open. Man he had two steals because

0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 3>that sense of team basketball and where the passes are

0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:21.120
<v Speaker 3>going to go translates to the defensive side of the. Ball,

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:25.320
<v Speaker 3>like he's just a, really really intelligent. Player and OBVIOUSLY

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 3>i don't think that he's playing at one hundred percent

0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:31.720
<v Speaker 3>health right, now but seeing him still have a game

0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 3>like that as he works his way back to the

0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 3>full health was really really encouraging to. See and you,

0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 3>KNOW i think he's a, big big part of what

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 3>makes this team so. Special AND i think you're. RIGHT

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 3>i think there's times, where, hey we could probably get

0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 3>him going to the basket a little more like. That

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 3>that was honestly one of my gripes with the our

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 3>start Against boston WAS i felt, Like, hey we're not

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 3>really attacking the basket a whole. Lot LIKE i understand

0:29:57.160 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 3>That Al horford has given us issues at, times but

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 3>we're having just a little bit too much reverence for,

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 3>Him like we were able to get jareded going in

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:08.000
<v Speaker 3>that game against Christats, Porzingis, LIKE i, think what did

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:10.480
<v Speaker 3>he have eighteen and seventeen or something crazy like that

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 3>in the game Against Boston Nomen, Like it's not like

0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 3>this is a matchup where he can't have, Success and

0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:20.120
<v Speaker 3>you would think it'd be even more easy to get

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:23.800
<v Speaker 3>some of those easy buckets Against boston Without porzingis in.

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 3>There SO i thought that maybe that that was something

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 3>that they could have done better to start that. Game

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 3>to your point about them not playing, great BUT i

0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 3>THINK i would disagree just a little bit. OVERALL I

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 3>I i get where you were coming from with that,

0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 3>game BUT i think some of it was, just, man

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:45.120
<v Speaker 3>they're they're hitting absolutely, everything so we're going to, nitpick you,

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:49.360
<v Speaker 3>know the the nuances of defense when in, general Normally

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 3>Jason tatum misses.

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:50.800
<v Speaker 2>A lot of those.

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Shots, yeah, fair you, KNOW i just THOUGHT i thought

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 1>their detail work just wasn't at WHAT i would consider

0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:03.240
<v Speaker 1>their usual. Standard going back to The bulls, GAME i

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 1>think the other guy we got to talk about Is Chafonte,

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 1>green who gets his first. Rotation. MINTS i thought it

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 1>was a, great great lever to pull From, kenney. THOUGH

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 1>i mean he said he was planning on it when

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:18.200
<v Speaker 1>he was doing his post game. Availability it wasn't a

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:21.080
<v Speaker 1>break glass in case of A Javonte. Green this was

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 1>like the plan to put him in early in this.

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Game AND i thought him And ocoro together really changed

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 1>the entire energy of the game they started closing. OUT i, mean,

0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:41.520
<v Speaker 1>boy are those arms long For? Green he covers ground so, well,

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Dude and he's balanced and you, know he's one of

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 1>those one of those guys where the contest is is

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 1>closer than the opposing player thinks it's going to be

0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 1>as they go. Up you know that that WINGSPAN i

0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 1>think closes the gap really really, well and he'sun balance

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:03.480
<v Speaker 1>and all that fun. STUFF i thought he had about

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:06.600
<v Speaker 1>as good of a debut as you could have. Expected

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 1>what were your thoughts from?

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Him?

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:10.720
<v Speaker 3>YEAH i thought he was really. FUN i liked him

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 3>And ocoro checking in. TOGETHER i kind of like having

0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 3>him as a guy For ocoro to kind of like

0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:20.240
<v Speaker 3>get mentored from to some examp to some, extent, right

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 3>Because Javonte green is not as good of a three

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 3>point shooter As isaac O, corol but he with his

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 3>activity and the way that he flies around the. Court

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 3>that is exactly how you buy, yourself you, know, Time

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 3>that's how you buy yourself. OPPORTUNITY i think that he

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 3>as we set after the, BIO i think he's a

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 3>great insurance piece because he can play two through four

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 3>with that activity level and the length that you. Reference

0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 3>but just the way he crashes the, glass the way

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 3>that he's always, moving that's exactly the type of player

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:54.479
<v Speaker 3>That Isaacle coro needs to be so that you, know

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 3>we're not just living and dying with the three point.

0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 3>Shot you, are you, know filling up the box. Score

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 3>and speaking of, Which ocor had one flying rebound tonight

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:06.760
<v Speaker 3>that jumped off the screen like he is looking At. Athletic

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 3>he's giving them great. Minutes BUT i like having two options,

0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 3>there right because you don't, Know, hey Is Isaac ocor

0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 3>going to have issues in the. Playoffs, AGAIN i don't

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:19.280
<v Speaker 3>think it's as likely BECAUSE i think he's being used

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 3>in different ways rather than you, know standing in the

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 3>corner and his success being judged on whether or not

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 3>he hits that. Shot but if he does have a

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:30.120
<v Speaker 3>series where you know things aren't going his way and

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 3>you need to go to someone that can bring that

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 3>defensive stopper kind of. Mentality Javonte green is an option

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 3>you can go. To right his depth is overrated in

0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:42.480
<v Speaker 3>the playoffs options are not.

0:33:43.160 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 1>WELL i think there's also just the the factor Of

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:52.000
<v Speaker 1>oquoro And green being the best guard defenders on the. Roster,

0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 1>yeah you, know AND i feel like him showing, that, like,

0:33:56.240 --> 0:34:00.080
<v Speaker 1>HEY i can come in and muck up the game

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:03.760
<v Speaker 1>against a team that's playing e leite initiator kind of

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:07.840
<v Speaker 1>guard that is giving us some. TROUBLE i thought it

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:11.040
<v Speaker 1>just gives them a little bit of a different, option you,

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Know LIKE i felt like they guarded different With ocoro

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:18.640
<v Speaker 1>In green out there than they would have guarded With

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:21.440
<v Speaker 1>ocoro And wade out. There AND i Love wade as a,

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:24.400
<v Speaker 1>defender but there's just a you, know it's a different,

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 1>style it's a different versatility for them to. Have SO

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I i AND i think that's what's really exciting about

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>the guy is that he's kind of a two through

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:39.919
<v Speaker 1>four on defense and they didn't really. HAVE i don't

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 1>even know If okoro is that really he's more of a,

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 1>tooth you, know one to three on. Defense, yeah but you,

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 1>know just him being a little little long a.

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:52.800
<v Speaker 3>Good job On, like you, KNOW i we probably shouldn't

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 3>speak as confidently In Javanti green's ability to go to

0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:58.600
<v Speaker 3>through four because we haven't really seen.

0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 1>IT i just feel Like i've seen him play a

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:02.360
<v Speaker 1>lot of four in his. Career you know it's, true

0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 1>so but you, KNOW i don't. Know it just FELT

0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:09.400
<v Speaker 1>i felt like they had a slightly different kind of

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 1>dude on the. Roster And i've said this a. Lot

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:16.759
<v Speaker 1>when you're looking for deep depth pieces that are not

0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:19.040
<v Speaker 1>going to be in your day to day, rotation you

0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:22.080
<v Speaker 1>want one of two. Things you either want a guy

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 1>who plugs into exactly what you do and provides, insulation

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 1>or you want a guy who does something completely. Different

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 1>you know that like has a skill or an energy

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:37.640
<v Speaker 1>that maybe isn't quite matched by anyone else on the.

0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Roster AND i feel Like green kind of represents some

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 1>version of a middle ground there where he isn't quite

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:49.360
<v Speaker 1>A quoro, Clone like there are some meaningful, differences like

0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:52.080
<v Speaker 1>can being a freak, Athlete, yeah but he. Can but

0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 1>he can do. Both you, know he can do the

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:57.799
<v Speaker 1>job even if he's going to do it. Differently SO

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:00.440
<v Speaker 1>i feel like he's a nice blend AND i, mean

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 1>just remember he was starting games for That pelicans team

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:04.560
<v Speaker 1>and now he. Can't you, know he's not even in

0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:08.960
<v Speaker 1>the rotation. Here SO i just feel like it's such

0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:12.279
<v Speaker 1>an embarrassment of riches for this team in the middle

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 1>of the roster and now at the even the bottom

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:14.680
<v Speaker 1>of the.

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Roster, yeah, YEAH i totally. AGREE i thought it was a,

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:19.319
<v Speaker 2>really really fun.

0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:22.759
<v Speaker 3>Debut the depth of this team continues to just really

0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:24.959
<v Speaker 3>blow me, away AND i think it's going to serve

0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:27.120
<v Speaker 3>them really well over these last twenty games of the.

0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:31.240
<v Speaker 3>SEASON i can't believe there's still twenty games. Left that's it's,

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:33.840
<v Speaker 3>nuts but it's gonna be a challenging march for.

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Them do you want the playoffs to get here or

0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:39.560
<v Speaker 1>do you still, like are you still enjoying the ride and?

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 1>THAT i guess those aren't mutually, exclusive but, YEAH i

0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:43.839
<v Speaker 1>kind of want that you feel about.

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:45.919
<v Speaker 3>IT i want the playoffs to get, here just Because

0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:48.839
<v Speaker 3>i've had so much Post All Star, break LIKE ptsd

0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:51.239
<v Speaker 3>when it comes to injuries and other things like. That

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:55.000
<v Speaker 3>LIKE i part of me wants to see more problem.

0:36:55.080 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 3>SOLVING i want to see guys work through some. STUFF

0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:00.880
<v Speaker 3>i want to see different lineup. Combination i'd like to,

0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:03.200
<v Speaker 3>see you, Know hunter with the core for that still

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:06.400
<v Speaker 3>hasn't happen since his first. Game, like there's things THAT

0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:08.759
<v Speaker 3>i still want to see from the regular, season BUT

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:11.640
<v Speaker 3>i also just want this very very good team THAT

0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:15.839
<v Speaker 3>i know is very very good to be whole and

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 3>tested in the. Playoffs like That's i'm really really interested

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:20.720
<v Speaker 3>to see what that looks.

0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Like, Yeah i'm kind of in the middle of. It you,

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Know i'm enjoying the regular. Season, still there's always the

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:30.319
<v Speaker 1>you only have so many games left in the year

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:34.359
<v Speaker 1>counter That i'm always looking at as a guy who

0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:37.880
<v Speaker 1>really really loves watching basketball and really really loves watching The.

0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Cavs but then there's also the THE i don't know

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:47.319
<v Speaker 1>how much MORE i need them to prove to me

0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:51.960
<v Speaker 1>in this. Setting, yeah but then then on the other,

0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:54.799
<v Speaker 1>HAND i want to see him like can they get

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:57.799
<v Speaker 1>to sixty, seven sixty, eight sixty nine? WINS i want

0:37:57.840 --> 0:38:00.719
<v Speaker 1>to See the streak is very motivated to me right,

0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:04.640
<v Speaker 1>now you, know it's it's Been it's really nice to have,

0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:06.239
<v Speaker 1>This like if they were kind of.

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:09.400
<v Speaker 3>Cool to like set the franchise record win streak and

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 3>then beat that win streak that you set earlier this,

0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:15.399
<v Speaker 3>season like setting the franchise record twice in a, year

0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:16.799
<v Speaker 3>it would be a hell of an.

0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Accomplishment, yeah before we went, ALIVE i asked, you, like

0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:23.160
<v Speaker 1>where do you think the streak? Ends and you threw

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:26.960
<v Speaker 1>out a couple things Like milwaukee or Maybe, memphis and you,

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Know i'm throwing out.

0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Maybe brooklyn because you know we haven't been playing.

0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:33.719
<v Speaker 1>Well but it was so. Funny but THEN i just,

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:36.400
<v Speaker 1>SAID i was, like, well they never, lose SO i

0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:38.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know where to. LOOK i don't know. WHAT i

0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:41.279
<v Speaker 1>don't know where the signs are, coming you know?

0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Where? Where where is the?

0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Uh like there's not enough track record for losses for

0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:49.880
<v Speaker 1>this team for me to. See like with The lebron,

0:38:49.920 --> 0:38:53.960
<v Speaker 1>TEAMS i could see a loss a mile. Away there

0:38:54.000 --> 0:38:56.960
<v Speaker 1>were tremors before the. Earthquake, here LIKE i know exactly

0:38:57.040 --> 0:39:00.399
<v Speaker 1>what this. Means oh, yeah there's a loss coming in one.

0:38:59.880 --> 0:39:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Day like even if they were, great even if they

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:04.799
<v Speaker 1>were in good, FORM i knew when a loss was.

0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Coming and NOW i just am like every game's kind

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:09.920
<v Speaker 1>of an, Adventure SO i, DO i. DO i am

0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:12.399
<v Speaker 1>still very much enjoying the, journey but LIKE i, mean

0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 1>you've seen MY. Dms i'm perpetually angsty about injuries BECAUSE

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:20.160
<v Speaker 1>i just so so, OVERTLY i KNOW i. Am it's

0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 1>BECAUSE i just so desperately want this team to get

0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:27.640
<v Speaker 1>to the playoffs hole and like in good form so

0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:29.239
<v Speaker 1>we can really without a.

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:33.759
<v Speaker 2>Doubt, no AND i really.

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:36.120
<v Speaker 3>Do think that you should take advantage of the resources

0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:40.360
<v Speaker 3>available to. YOU i am the ultimate barometer and like

0:39:40.560 --> 0:39:43.880
<v Speaker 3>record keeper of every minor ailment that has ever happened

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:44.440
<v Speaker 3>to A Cleveland.

0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Cavalier, yeah BUT i think you're zagging just Because i'm too.

0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Angsty i'm not. Zaging i'm not Zagon you're just making

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:51.560
<v Speaker 2>fun of.

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:54.440
<v Speaker 3>Me, no SOMETIMES i, am BUT i make it very

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:57.920
<v Speaker 3>clear When i'm making fun of. YOU i honestly think you,

0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:00.920
<v Speaker 3>know like if we're looking at, IT dg has not

0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:03.279
<v Speaker 3>been the same since you, know he took his fall

0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:06.239
<v Speaker 3>against The. KNICKS i think that's very very. Clear but

0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:08.759
<v Speaker 3>WHEN i look at The boston, GAME i thought he

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 3>was moving around. WELL i thought he actually played a good.

0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:13.319
<v Speaker 3>GAME i was higher on that game than you were

0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:14.960
<v Speaker 3>by quite a.

0:40:14.960 --> 0:40:16.400
<v Speaker 2>BIT i look at these.

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:20.640
<v Speaker 3>Last two, games what like quite a bit a. Bit,

0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah i'm feeling worse sneaking that one. End most of

0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:28.160
<v Speaker 3>the WORDS i say aren't intentional card that's just me

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:30.879
<v Speaker 3>showing space so my brain can get to the next.

0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:34.440
<v Speaker 3>Sentence but WHEN i look at like his recent, GAMES

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 3>i think that a lot of this doesn't look like

0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:41.239
<v Speaker 3>he's not getting to his. SPOTS i feel like he

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 3>is just in a slump from a shooting. STANDPOINT i

0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:48.120
<v Speaker 3>thought the game Against chicago was actually interesting because that

0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:50.320
<v Speaker 3>was one of the first TIMES i could, remember maybe

0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:54.839
<v Speaker 3>since the first game Against, boston where the misshots were

0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:58.799
<v Speaker 3>getting him to start taking really bad. Shots and you,

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:02.000
<v Speaker 3>know maybe you could spin that, as, hey it's better

0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:05.520
<v Speaker 3>than him fading into the background and not shooting anymore

0:41:05.560 --> 0:41:08.200
<v Speaker 3>like we used to see in the past when we're

0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 3>trying to win a championship and we're at the. Standard

0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:14.719
<v Speaker 3>neither extreme is the right. ANSWER i would, prefer you, know.

0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:15.799
<v Speaker 1>The extremist play.

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:20.000
<v Speaker 3>Good, yeah well, no the honestly the the what the

0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:22.879
<v Speaker 3>middle ground is is what happening Against. BOSTON i thought

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:25.240
<v Speaker 3>he took good. SHOTS i will live with the misses

0:41:25.280 --> 0:41:29.560
<v Speaker 3>that he. TOOK i honestly Like miami closer to. THAT i,

0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:32.239
<v Speaker 3>think for the most, part is a pretty efficient. GAME

0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:34.799
<v Speaker 3>i thought the passing was really. Good, uh if there

0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:36.640
<v Speaker 3>wasn't that one grenade at the end of the shot,

0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 3>clock it probably was a pretty good shooting night from.

0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:43.839
<v Speaker 3>Him but you, know in, general like just play your,

0:41:43.880 --> 0:41:46.759
<v Speaker 3>game take the shots as they. COME i understand when

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:48.719
<v Speaker 3>you're in a slump you want to shoot your way

0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:51.040
<v Speaker 3>out of. It BUT i feel like he's moving around,

0:41:51.080 --> 0:41:52.600
<v Speaker 3>well and this is just one of those things that,

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:56.400
<v Speaker 3>happens uh in a you, know four game stretch throughout

0:41:56.440 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 3>the course of a.

0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:59.240
<v Speaker 1>Year here's here's.

0:41:59.239 --> 0:41:59.719
<v Speaker 2>Hoping you.

0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:03.160
<v Speaker 1>KNOW i felt like he played completely fine. Tonight you,

0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:05.960
<v Speaker 1>know didn't have the most efficient, night but still a

0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 1>ten assists to two. Turnovers you, know got to his

0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:12.680
<v Speaker 1>spots pretty. WELL i felt like the offense was coming

0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:14.080
<v Speaker 1>pretty well with him on the. Floor.

0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:16.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah the only Thing i'll say about him getting to

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 3>his spots is he didn't take a shot inside the

0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:20.680
<v Speaker 3>three point arc in the first, half and it felt

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:24.760
<v Speaker 3>just maybe a little Like fred van vitally floating around

0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:27.719
<v Speaker 3>on the outside instead of getting that driving kick game.

0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:29.080
<v Speaker 2>Going so MAYBE i.

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:30.680
<v Speaker 3>Would have liked to see a little bit of. That

0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:33.720
<v Speaker 3>but THOUGH i thought overall it was a fine. Game

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:37.240
<v Speaker 3>he turned his ankle in the fourth quarter Against, miami

0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:40.439
<v Speaker 3>who we'll see what happens, there given how cautious they've

0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:42.800
<v Speaker 3>been with, injuries and maybe if they feel like he

0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:46.000
<v Speaker 3>could benefit from a rest. Game there's an Opportunity friday

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:48.239
<v Speaker 3>Against charlotte get him ready for The. Bucks SO i

0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:51.239
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't be surprised to see. That BUT i honestly just

0:42:51.320 --> 0:42:53.799
<v Speaker 3>think it's a, slump AND i don't think that it's

0:42:53.960 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 3>any surprise that When DG's in a bit of a,

0:42:57.680 --> 0:43:00.440
<v Speaker 3>slump The cavs as a whole going a bit, slim

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:02.839
<v Speaker 3>because which is WHY i, SAID i want TO i

0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:05.400
<v Speaker 3>care more about his a game in a series Against

0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:09.440
<v Speaker 3>boston than like than anyone else's because of, THAT i

0:43:09.480 --> 0:43:12.480
<v Speaker 3>think he really is the. THING i think the thing

0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:15.799
<v Speaker 3>that makes us the most special right now is our you,

0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:20.640
<v Speaker 3>KNOW nba record, offense and the one who makes our

0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:24.160
<v Speaker 3>offense the most, special the most, consistently your, Boy Darius.

0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Garland, yeah, Yep, Hey.

0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:29.080
<v Speaker 3>I'll add this just because they did a little bit

0:43:29.080 --> 0:43:31.239
<v Speaker 3>of research after the last, podcast BECAUSE i was trying

0:43:31.239 --> 0:43:34.239
<v Speaker 3>to figure out exactly where his defense was at for

0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:37.919
<v Speaker 3>those four, games just to see how many field goals

0:43:37.960 --> 0:43:41.279
<v Speaker 3>is he, allowing how or his man how is his

0:43:41.360 --> 0:43:44.720
<v Speaker 3>man shooting Versus darius compared to when they're not playing Against.

0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:48.919
<v Speaker 3>DARIUS i did find THE nba Dot com tracking data

0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:52.920
<v Speaker 3>says he's allowing seven point five shot midfield goals a,

0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:56.120
<v Speaker 3>Game so seventeen points per game was what he was.

0:43:56.160 --> 0:43:59.880
<v Speaker 3>Allowing his man when defended By darius shot seven percent

0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:02.239
<v Speaker 3>worse than how they otherwise.

0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Shot so they were shooting.

0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:08.879
<v Speaker 3>Forty eight point nine percent from two point range within six.

0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:13.399
<v Speaker 3>Feet actually we're shooting fifteen percent. Worse so when you're talking, about,

0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:16.239
<v Speaker 3>okay is it a net positive when he's out there

0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:19.040
<v Speaker 3>if his SHOT's not. Falling you, know he did average

0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:21.120
<v Speaker 3>nineteen in those four. Games if you take out that

0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:25.160
<v Speaker 3>first one twenty. Two he was playmaking really well those

0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:28.680
<v Speaker 3>last few. Games SO i, still you, know stand by

0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:30.879
<v Speaker 3>EVERYTHING i said in those. GAMES i think that he's

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:33.080
<v Speaker 3>rushing some of those. Shots he needs to settle down

0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:36.360
<v Speaker 3>and maintain his composure Against. Boston but for all the

0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:38.880
<v Speaker 3>talk about the, defense AND i think some of that

0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 3>was influenced by how much the broadcast was talking about,

0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:44.879
<v Speaker 3>it even though you, know there weren't really that many

0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:48.680
<v Speaker 3>field goal attempts period Versus. Darius for all that, TALK

0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 3>i thought it was worthwhile to look at the numbers and, see,

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 3>hey they're actually shooting worse than expected when when they

0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:54.120
<v Speaker 3>play Against.

0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:58.680
<v Speaker 1>AARIUS i. AGREE i don't have anything to. ADD i

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:01.160
<v Speaker 1>mean that masteres my. EYE i care way more about

0:45:01.160 --> 0:45:03.640
<v Speaker 1>his offense THAN i worry about his. Defense me too

0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:07.800
<v Speaker 1>in this, series and uh uh in that in that potential,

0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:10.799
<v Speaker 1>series AND i just want to see. IT i want

0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:11.360
<v Speaker 1>to see it come to.

0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:15.600
<v Speaker 3>Fruition, yeah, yeah Because boston's going to play mismatch. Basketball

0:45:15.680 --> 0:45:18.239
<v Speaker 3>like you, know listening to The simmons And brazilo like

0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:20.680
<v Speaker 3>that was their number one complain about the. Team, it's,

0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:23.080
<v Speaker 3>hey they don't run. Anything they just, Say, okay who's

0:45:23.120 --> 0:45:24.960
<v Speaker 3>the shortest guy on the. Court we're you, know we're

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:27.560
<v Speaker 3>going to go at, him let's force a. Switch we're

0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:30.200
<v Speaker 3>going to play isolation. Basketball wherever we have the, mismatch

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:34.000
<v Speaker 3>you sub someone out for For, darius for for defense.

0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:35.880
<v Speaker 3>Reasons they're going to do the exact same thing To.

0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:38.680
<v Speaker 3>Donovan they did that last year in the. Playoffs it's

0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:41.359
<v Speaker 3>not about how they are as a. Defender it's, hey

0:45:41.760 --> 0:45:44.480
<v Speaker 3>that guy shorter than our, Guys we're going to try

0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:45.080
<v Speaker 3>to shoot over.

0:45:45.120 --> 0:45:48.240
<v Speaker 1>Them, absolutely, brother anything.

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:50.640
<v Speaker 3>Else before we wrap this, up let's let's talk a

0:45:50.680 --> 0:45:52.240
<v Speaker 3>little bit About Kevin love because.

0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 2>That that's true.

0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:57.359
<v Speaker 1>Idea, yeah it's just nice to see him, back nice

0:45:57.360 --> 0:46:03.360
<v Speaker 1>to see it was cool even Seeing angel working. Sideline you,

0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:05.799
<v Speaker 1>know it was just a nice Little kazarini interest In

0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:11.200
<v Speaker 1>kevin coming and Mobbin Richard. JEFFERSON i JUST i always

0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:14.719
<v Speaker 1>go back to what a special locker room that, was

0:46:15.480 --> 0:46:19.360
<v Speaker 1>and how clearly like bonded they are all from that.

0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:24.319
<v Speaker 1>Experience and it was also cool to Hear kevin say

0:46:24.360 --> 0:46:26.359
<v Speaker 1>that if he ever makes The hall Of, fame he'd

0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:28.600
<v Speaker 1>love to be inducted as a. Cavalier you, know that's

0:46:29.200 --> 0:46:32.360
<v Speaker 1>that's special because if you look at the front end

0:46:31.880 --> 0:46:37.279
<v Speaker 1>of his time, here like you weren't sure it was

0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:40.080
<v Speaker 1>going to be a happy. Marriage, no you weren't sure

0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:43.120
<v Speaker 1>that he was going to remember his time In cleveland,

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<v Speaker 1>Finally so the fact that you, know he's going out

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<v Speaker 1>of his way to say something like that just goes

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<v Speaker 1>to show how special his time here was for. Him

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<v Speaker 1>and he was a very special, cavalier that's for damn.

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<v Speaker 3>KNOW i think it's a good example of how tenuous

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<v Speaker 3>the team building process can be at, times and you,

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<v Speaker 3>know discussing fit when you have expectations and the pressure

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<v Speaker 3>that that puts. On But kevin went through a lot

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<v Speaker 3>with The. Calves you, know he was there for a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of really big moments and stepped. Up really cool

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<v Speaker 3>tweet here From Tom, Withers Kevin love said after the

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<v Speaker 3>Game he's been told his jersey will be retired by

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<v Speaker 3>The calves and hung next To Nick gilbert's And Rocket.

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<v Speaker 3>Arena oh, yeah WHICH i think is really really.

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<v Speaker 1>Also shout To angel wearing the bow tie. Pen, yeah you,

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<v Speaker 1>KNOW i thought that was a nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Touch i'm glad you mentioned that she was there for the.

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<v Speaker 3>Covers that the whole kind of kaz reunion feel for

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<v Speaker 3>this game was really. Good and you, know you KNOW

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<v Speaker 3>i always enjoy our j on the. Call another national, Game.

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<v Speaker 3>Carter we just keep winning all these NATIONAL tv. Games

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<v Speaker 3>put The calves ON tv more, often.

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<v Speaker 1>No, kidding, man. Unbelievable what a.

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<v Speaker 3>Run and you know we even give closer games now

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<v Speaker 3>because those first year that they put us, on they

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<v Speaker 3>were twenty thirty point, loss you, know wins by The.

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<v Speaker 3>Caves people are tuning out in the middle of the third.

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<v Speaker 3>Quarter now we're providing. Entertainment now we're Providing come let

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