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Speaker 3: And of fowl. Welcome to the Chase Down Podcast, part
Speaker 3: of the Caves Media family. I'm your host, Justin Rohan.
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Speaker 2: They became the first team.
Speaker 3: In the NBA to officially clinch a playoff spot with
Speaker 3: their win over the Miami Heat. The winning streak is
Speaker 3: up to twelve games, and my co host is Carter Rodriguez.
Speaker 2: Carter, how you doing, buddy?
Speaker 1: That was seamless, brother, man. I I'm doing good. Uh,
Speaker 1: It's it's a really weird thing where you know, Justin,
Speaker 1: I gotta say this team on as twelve game winning
Speaker 1: streak might be slumping a little it's just this really
Speaker 1: weird thing where you know they're not playing their best basketball.
Speaker 1: And Mike Lucas, you know, kind of ask Kitty about
Speaker 1: this as much in the post game, where he was
Speaker 1: just kind of like, you know, I can't call it
Speaker 1: a slump, but you know, it's not your best basketball
Speaker 1: over the last couple of days. And you know, I think,
Speaker 1: you know, on one hand, obviously it's not crazy fun
Speaker 1: that they're not playing their best basketball, but it's also,
Speaker 1: in a weird way kind of fun because it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, normally, when a team is going through the
Speaker 1: you know, the four and six, three and four and
Speaker 1: they're not their sharpest, you just lose and you're really
Speaker 1: grumpy about it. And instead, we just have this team
Speaker 1: that keeps finding ways to win, you know, in all
Speaker 1: these different ways. And I know that some people are
Speaker 1: sick of hearing the twenty fifteen twenty sixteen Warriors comparisons
Speaker 1: with this team, but those teams did have a certain
Speaker 1: air of inevitability to them, where it's like, no matter
Speaker 1: how much the lead is, no matter how much you
Speaker 1: fought back to take the lead, that they were always
Speaker 1: going to be just lurking and waiting to knock you
Speaker 1: out at the very last second, and every bounce would
Speaker 1: go their way, every foot on the line would go
Speaker 1: their way, and it just kind of feels like this
Speaker 1: Cavs team just has that kind of destiny air about
Speaker 1: them that is really really fun, and it's got to
Speaker 1: be really frustrating for the other teams.
Speaker 2: It's got to be frustrating. Carter.
Speaker 3: You know, I love you, buddy, but I think you're
Speaker 3: missing the bigger picture here.
Speaker 2: When we pass that win.
Speaker 3: Over the Boston Celtics, we said, you know, that's kind
Speaker 3: of the last real test. That's the last time we
Speaker 3: play a real contender. The rest of the regular season
Speaker 3: is going to be about trying some stuff, working on
Speaker 3: things that you have to be ready for in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: They will present to you a theory. The Cleveland Cavaliers
Speaker 3: realize they don't have a lot of experience closing games.
Speaker 3: The starters don't get to play in fourth quarters very often,
Speaker 3: not a lot of experience coming from behind, you know,
Speaker 3: So you know, you let these teams hang around you,
Speaker 3: You give yourself a challenge, you put yourself behind, and
Speaker 3: then you come back and you win those games. That's
Speaker 3: very clearly what's happening here.
Speaker 1: Brother, It's a what a year, what a what an
Speaker 1: unbelievable season, our boys, Ziggy had. I think my favorite
Speaker 1: Calves stat of the year, which is that if you
Speaker 1: if the Calves lost every game that wasn't a part
Speaker 1: of these three game winning streaks, they'd still be the
Speaker 1: three seed in the East. They have thirty nine wins
Speaker 1: on win streaks this year. If the Lakers beat beat
Speaker 1: New York tomorrow and and the Calves win their next one,
Speaker 1: they would be forty games in win streaks. They would
Speaker 1: be the two seed. Like It's an unbelievable number of streaks.
Speaker 1: I mean, only the second team in NBA history to
Speaker 1: have three win streaks of twelve or more. This team
Speaker 1: is just unbelievable. What a run. I keep thinking about
Speaker 1: like DeAndre Hunter and just what he must think every
Speaker 1: day going to work.
Speaker 2: I guess this is my new life.
Speaker 3: I guess I just never lose ever again. It's got
Speaker 3: to be a good feeling. And you know, speaking of
Speaker 3: DeAndre Hunter, I was thinking about his addition to the
Speaker 3: team and kind of how it's helped us throughout this stretch,
Speaker 3: because I really do feel like he's solidified this rotation
Speaker 3: We've seen a couple of games now where you know,
Speaker 3: Donovan Ress, Mobiley rest, he slides into the starting lineup
Speaker 3: and has helped contribute in so many different ways. I
Speaker 3: don't think that what we have currently seen, you know,
Speaker 3: since the Boston game, these last couple of wins, I
Speaker 3: don't think it's too dissimilar to some of the losing
Speaker 3: streaks that we've had this season, because those losing streaks
Speaker 3: have been games that have come down to the wire, right,
Speaker 3: Like you think of the Houston game where it's DG
Speaker 3: missing some free throws, just a little mistake at the end,
Speaker 3: Mobiley wasn't there. The Indiana game where we're up big
Speaker 3: in the third quarter, they're missing some guys, we blow
Speaker 3: that lead, and we just don't have enough to kind
Speaker 3: of get back, you know, get our grip of the
Speaker 3: rope back at that point. I think now, because to
Speaker 3: your point that you've brought up several times, we don't
Speaker 3: have any lineups that suck like. It just has insulated
Speaker 3: us so much further. It has flipped the margin, that
Speaker 3: very very thin margin that you know, some of those
Speaker 3: very close losses that they've had, you know, didn't go
Speaker 3: in their favor. Now it's going the other way. Now
Speaker 3: you don't have a weak lineup where hey, the starters
Speaker 3: didn't really have it, which honestly, starting lineup wasn't very
Speaker 3: good tonight. They did not play well against Miami. In
Speaker 3: the past, you may have that and then oh they
Speaker 3: were able to pick on the bench line up and
Speaker 3: build that lead. Now because you don't have that ability
Speaker 3: as an when you're playing the Calves, it makes it
Speaker 3: so much harder to actually build upon your successes and
Speaker 3: put the Calves in a big enough hole that they
Speaker 3: can't crawl out of.
Speaker 1: I do have to fact check you real quick. Justin
Speaker 1: my turn, you mentioned Calves losing streaks, so I don't
Speaker 1: I don't recall they haven't had one one of.
Speaker 3: Those patches, those little patches you know of, like three
Speaker 3: and five or whatever, like, Yes, a lot of those
Speaker 3: have been very thin margins.
Speaker 1: I saw an opportunity to tease that, Yeah, they've lost
Speaker 1: two in a row only twice this year and three
Speaker 1: in a row only once. Uh So, depending on your
Speaker 1: your definition of streak, which I know can be uh,
Speaker 1: can can can be uh.
Speaker 3: No, it's definite, it's three in a row winning streak
Speaker 3: or losing streak. It's three in a row. Major League
Speaker 3: has defined that, Carter, you cannot you can't refute that.
Speaker 1: Well, an all time Cleveland sports movie should be the
Speaker 1: one to uh to set the uh to set the
Speaker 1: record at.
Speaker 2: The end of the day.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you're right, I mean, and uh we've talked
Speaker 1: a lot about all the versatility that Hunter gives them.
Speaker 1: I thought this was another a little thing. Do you
Speaker 1: remember last year when they signed Marcus Morris and I
Speaker 1: mentioned that it was nice having, you know, a forward
Speaker 1: on the roster that wasn't just a three or at
Speaker 1: the rim guy, right, you know, it felt nice just
Speaker 1: to know that, not that you want to build the
Speaker 1: whole plane out of it, but it was nice to
Speaker 1: know that Marcus Morris could pump fake from the corner
Speaker 1: if they closed out hard, he could pump take two
Speaker 1: dribbles in and then hit a MIDI and like be
Speaker 1: relatively comfortable with that in between game and like we
Speaker 1: even saw that in the playoffs, Like, I mean, he
Speaker 1: had a couple of really good games for us, just
Speaker 1: being that kind of shooter, being that kind of in
Speaker 1: between creator and watching this game where Miami is in
Speaker 1: the zone, they're sinking way back towards the rim. Jarrett's
Speaker 1: not having his most impactful night, coming off a night
Speaker 1: where he was unbelievable against Chicago, which we'll hit on,
Speaker 1: but instead you're just hitting Hunter in that soft pocket
Speaker 1: and he makes the right call like three or four times,
Speaker 1: and he's a guy who you want to rise up
Speaker 1: for that open twelve foot mid range jumper, and like
Speaker 1: that is one of the first times because like he's
Speaker 1: been a really good cavalier so far, obviously, but Harris
Speaker 1: and George hit threes, you know. I felt like, in
Speaker 1: a way tonight was one of the first times we
Speaker 1: really saw that part of the offensive skill set be
Speaker 1: reeling meaningful and be a little different than what we
Speaker 1: had before. Is that Do you agree with that?
Speaker 2: I do? It was one of my main notes from
Speaker 2: this game.
Speaker 3: I thought the fact that from the start, like Kenny's
Speaker 3: talked about this in the past, where the two coaches
Speaker 3: that run the most zone are he and Eric Spolster,
Speaker 3: and dating back to when he was in Brooklyn, And
Speaker 3: I thought Richard Jefferson made a really good point on
Speaker 3: the broadcast where he was saying, the Cavs know exactly
Speaker 3: how they're going to tag zone as soon as they
Speaker 3: see Miami go to that zone, they have DeAndre Hunter
Speaker 3: come up to the elbow. They had designated him as
Speaker 3: that zone buster, and we've talked about in the past
Speaker 3: how it was really important for Evan Mobley to hit
Speaker 3: kind of that free throw line jumper, because when teams
Speaker 3: are sagging off, when teams are going to zone, you
Speaker 3: need to have that front court player that's consistently and
Speaker 3: reliably able to hit that shot. And I think it's
Speaker 3: such a benefit to have DeAndre Hunter have that capability where, yeah,
Speaker 3: DJ can get easy assists by just hitting him quickly there.
Speaker 3: You know, the anchor of the zone isn't able to
Speaker 3: come up in time. If they do flash up quick enough,
Speaker 3: he has the ability to quickly kind of get that
Speaker 3: first step around him and just wonderable to the basket
Speaker 3: and finish. I thought it was a really really interesting
Speaker 3: wrinkle and just how confidently they would go to that
Speaker 3: as soon as Miami would throw the zone. I thought
Speaker 3: that that was really really noteworthy from this game.
Speaker 1: I thought they also opened up a little bit of stuff.
Speaker 2: You know, they where.
Speaker 1: Fiji made a really tight quarters pass to Hunter when
Speaker 1: they were in the middle of a switch and Davion
Speaker 1: Mitchell kind of got caught on Hunter's back hip. I
Speaker 1: thought that was a really nice like, you know, because
Speaker 1: teams are going to switch their bigger wings onto Darius
Speaker 1: and try to gum up the rhythm. So if you
Speaker 1: can slip those actions, if you can just get like
Speaker 1: a little bit of gap space between and get Hunter
Speaker 1: the ball with a little bit of runway towards the hoop,
Speaker 1: I think that could really pay dividends. And you know,
Speaker 1: me and you have also talked about how I don't
Speaker 1: think you know, neither of us feel like Hunter is
Speaker 1: the best playmaker. What's really nice about this Calves team,
Speaker 1: and we've said it a lot, is like it's just
Speaker 1: not that hard to play good basketball with this Cavs team.
Speaker 1: So he I mean, he found MOBILEI on that alley
Speaker 1: oop where I was about says, maybe he's ever thrown
Speaker 1: that that might be an initiation moment of you, you
Speaker 1: finally arrived as a Cleveland Cavalier. You found MOBILEI trailing
Speaker 1: in the dunker spot for a lob, right like that.
Speaker 3: You're you're right that that was such just a you know,
Speaker 3: an instinct play from him, uh to to find Mobile
Speaker 3: in that spot in a big moment.
Speaker 2: It was really really nice.
Speaker 3: I liked what we got from DeAndre Hunter, and again
Speaker 3: we saw another example of hey, Jared's not having a
Speaker 3: good night. Miami's playing really small. You know, Bam is
Speaker 3: anchoring them at at six' nine and they have a
Speaker 3: bunch of. Wings jared's not having a great. Game so
Speaker 3: let's close with With, Donovan, Darius, Max, DeAndre And evan
Speaker 3: like having that flexibility to, hey someone doesn't have it.
Speaker 3: Going we can close this. Way and particularly when you
Speaker 3: look at the teams that they've played, recently a lot
Speaker 3: of them are, downsized, right and some of that, is you,
Speaker 3: know just the availability of who they've had on their.
Speaker 3: Roster you look at the injury reports For chicago And,
Speaker 3: miami it's. Extensive there's not a lot of kind of
Speaker 3: choices or levers for those coaches to. Play so for
Speaker 3: them just downsizing on, necessity The cats are.
Speaker 2: Like, okay we have an answer for. That we can
Speaker 2: go to that pretty.
Speaker 1: Easily, yeah they they have so much roster. Versatility they and,
Speaker 1: like downsize is probably not even the right word Because
Speaker 1: hunter is his, biggest most power.
Speaker 2: Forwards fair, point.
Speaker 1: You, know they're still playing a pretty big lineup out
Speaker 1: there and they can you, know they they can still
Speaker 1: gum things. UP i, thought you, know they won this,
Speaker 1: game not with their. Offense they want it on the
Speaker 1: defensive end of the. Ball they they made timely stops and,
Speaker 1: yeah it wasn't. Pretty uh you, Know donovan gets stripped
Speaker 1: By Kyli, anderson.
Speaker 2: Who terrific defensive play by.
Speaker 1: It JUST i just Love Kyle anderson's.
Speaker 2: Game.
Speaker 1: MAN i just think he's such a. Winner both love. It, yeah,
Speaker 1: YEAH i think he's a. Winner and, like you, know
Speaker 1: it showed in his. MINUTES i, mean seven to eleven
Speaker 1: and seven for him in just twenty six. MINUTES i, thought,
Speaker 1: uh you, know so The calves didn't finish, perfectly BUT
Speaker 1: i did think they like they locked in and got
Speaker 1: stops at the right. Time they they ran guys off the,
Speaker 1: Line they made guys take that extra, step and, LIKE i,
Speaker 1: know like this is LIKE i don't, know maybe a
Speaker 1: little silly to, say but you, Know Duncan robinson steps
Speaker 1: out of out of, bounds and you know part of
Speaker 1: that is that The calves were like really pressuring that.
Speaker 1: PLAY i, mean you, know like they were made and
Speaker 1: they were Making miami. Work, true by the, way any.
Speaker 1: Thoughts do you think they would have. FILED i don't think,
Speaker 1: so because you, KNOW i. DON'T i didn't feel like
Speaker 1: fouling up three worked crazy well for them Against gosh
Speaker 1: was It.
Speaker 3: Portland, yeah it was a full eighteen. SECONDS i kind
Speaker 3: of felt like they were going to play it. Out
Speaker 3: it didn't look like they. Were they were scrambling to
Speaker 3: foul in that. Instance it didn't look like it to me,
Speaker 3: either WHICH i was because because when you think back
Speaker 3: to That portland, game they fouled on the catch, right
Speaker 3: like we're playing you uptight where we're going to foul
Speaker 3: you on the. Catch we're not going to allow you
Speaker 3: to get a shot. Off we're going not going to
Speaker 3: make the same mistake As Detroit. Duncan robinson caught the.
Speaker 3: BALL i think he even dribbled once and then turned
Speaker 3: and shot right like he happened to have stepped out of.
Speaker 3: Bounds but when you look At portland.
Speaker 2: As there was right.
Speaker 3: There, yeah the foul occurs in that time if that's
Speaker 3: what you're intentionally. Doing so don't think they would have
Speaker 3: in that. Spot but you, KNOW i think it's it's
Speaker 3: a good. Win LIKE i agree with, YOU i do
Speaker 3: feel like they're in a bit of a. Slump some
Speaker 3: of that, is you, know individual guys being in a.
Speaker 3: Slump we'll talk About darius in a, moment BECAUSE i
Speaker 3: think that's obviously going to be a big part of.
Speaker 3: It we talked about all season how when you look
Speaker 3: at the, numbers the offense goes With. Darius so When
Speaker 3: darius is playing poorly and he's shooting, poorly you're going
Speaker 3: to have some regression on that offensive end of the.
Speaker 3: Court BUT i think it's a good win Because, miami
Speaker 3: no matter who they have, available you know that that's
Speaker 3: going to be a team that's going to play really.
Speaker 3: Hard they're going to be really well, Coached they're going
Speaker 3: to have a game plan ready for. You and you,
Speaker 3: know The cavs are eleven and two this. Season on
Speaker 3: the second night of a back to, back that's an
Speaker 3: incredibly encouraging. Sign their only, losses.
Speaker 1: Especially on a night like tonight Where miami was did
Speaker 1: not play, yesterday.
Speaker 3: There are only two losses are both examples of that
Speaker 3: where the other team did not play the night. Before
Speaker 3: and guess who they? Were very try hard Teams The
Speaker 3: Miami heat and The Houston. Rockets, yeah those are teams
Speaker 3: that can get, you BUT i believe on the road
Speaker 3: for BOTH i believe so, yeah The calves being in
Speaker 3: this spot WHERE i think The houston one was at
Speaker 3: home matching now THAT i think about, it but this
Speaker 3: is another one of those indicators of them being an
Speaker 3: incredibly good. Team really really good teams take care of
Speaker 3: business on the second night of a back to back
Speaker 3: or in three and four, situations really really good teams
Speaker 3: win on the. Road The calves have the best winning
Speaker 3: percentage and the best record on the road this. Season
Speaker 3: the second place team is The Boston, celtics and that's
Speaker 3: noteworthy that The caves are better on the road Than
Speaker 3: boston Because boston the better road team than they are
Speaker 3: a home. Team so not only do The cavs have
Speaker 3: the best record in the, league not only do they
Speaker 3: have a great record on the second night of back to,
Speaker 3: backs not only do they have the best road, record
Speaker 3: they're just, really really damn good in every single way
Speaker 3: you look at. It they have an elite offense against elite,
Speaker 3: defenses they have e leite defense against the elite. Offenses
Speaker 3: this team is really damn, good AND i don't think
Speaker 3: it's a coincidence that they were the first team to
Speaker 3: clinch a playoff.
Speaker 1: Spot, YEAH i mean they're eight games up on the
Speaker 1: forty four and eighteen boss In. CELTICS i, MEAN i,
Speaker 1: know it's. Funny you would THINK i would get bored
Speaker 1: of reading all the different ways just to basically say
Speaker 1: that The cabs are fifty two to, ten And i'm
Speaker 1: not getting. Bored i'm having a lot of, fun just
Speaker 1: like looking at all these different contextual, things looking at
Speaker 1: this team's, raw this team's, record because, AGAIN i just
Speaker 1: think it's really really. Special there's just there's so many
Speaker 1: great things that are happening with The, cavs and sometimes
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Speaker 1: want to talk about on this game before we move
Speaker 1: to The chicago, Game BECAUSE i got a couple takes
Speaker 1: from The chicago.
Speaker 3: Game the only other thing THAT i kind of had
Speaker 3: noted with this game and something That i'm going to
Speaker 3: be keeping an eye on IS i found it was
Speaker 3: interesting That kenny changed up the substitution. PATTERN i think
Speaker 3: that's something that we really need to continue to keep
Speaker 3: an eye on of when he uses guys because we
Speaker 3: don't have a big sample of everybody being. AVAILABLE i
Speaker 3: thought it was Noteworthy Dean wade And Isaac ocrro check
Speaker 3: in in the second. Quarter like Normally Dean wade is
Speaker 3: a first quarter. Sub this, game he opted to go
Speaker 3: With Sam merril And Ty jerome And DeAndre hunter coming
Speaker 3: in off the bench, first and then it Was isaac
Speaker 3: And dean subbing in.
Speaker 2: Together in The chicago, game.
Speaker 3: It Was isaac And Javonte green checking in, together which
Speaker 3: was just, Like, hey we're going to throw defensive nightmares
Speaker 3: at you and they're going to be, really really. Active
Speaker 3: BUT i ACTUALLY i thought That isaac And dean gave
Speaker 3: them really good minutes when they checked in in that second.
Speaker 3: Quarter they really started to get some stops, there and
Speaker 3: that's when you saw them build up that second quarter.
Speaker 3: Lead SO i don't, know we don't have enough information
Speaker 3: to really get a sense of what the rotation is
Speaker 3: going to be when they're fully. Healthy BUT i just
Speaker 3: wanted to kind of highlight that and just something for you,
Speaker 3: know us and our listeners to keep an eye on
Speaker 3: with these future.
Speaker 1: Games here's another rotational. Thought enough more no center lineups getting.
Speaker 1: Run there was a stretch Where dean was playing the,
Speaker 1: Five DeAndre was at the. Four you, Know jared only
Speaker 1: played twenty five minutes tonight obviously just wasn't really his night.
Speaker 1: Overall but like part of me, wonders, because like in the,
Speaker 1: past it's been a very by necessity, lineup like either you,
Speaker 1: know someone's, hurt someone's in foul, trouble you, know whatever
Speaker 1: it may, be, uh or it's the team is just
Speaker 1: playing horrific basketball And kenny wants to try. Something those
Speaker 1: are been like the three precursors for the no center
Speaker 1: on the floor lineups for The. Cabs part of me
Speaker 1: wonders If kenny is thinking a little bit more long
Speaker 1: term about that and getting them some extra run for
Speaker 1: a playoff, run you, know because who knows If jared
Speaker 1: Or evan is going to miss a playoff game and
Speaker 1: you want foul trouble or get in foul trouble or
Speaker 1: whatever it may. Be and you you don't, want you,
Speaker 1: know those five, some especially With hunter on the, floor
Speaker 1: to be really getting their first run in those. Spots
Speaker 1: so just just an idle thought of whether that's you,
Speaker 1: know it's hard to know Because jared didn't have his
Speaker 1: best game. Today, YEAH i, mean how many games Does
Speaker 1: jared have more field goal attempts than?
Speaker 2: Points it's like.
Speaker 1: Never but but, yeah just that's my last little observation
Speaker 1: on the heat. Game can we move over to the balls?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, WELL i was just, gonna you, know comment on that.
Speaker 3: Is you know, what maybe some of it, Is, Hey
Speaker 3: jared's not at one hundred, percent like he's playing with
Speaker 3: a rap on his. Hand if you were playing with
Speaker 3: a rap on your hand and your hand was feeling
Speaker 3: one hundred, percent it's still going to throw you off
Speaker 3: a little.
Speaker 2: Bit and you, know maybe.
Speaker 3: Second night of a back to back there's some swordness
Speaker 3: there or whatever the case may. Be he obviously was
Speaker 3: phenomenal Against, chicago but maybe it. Is, hey you, know
Speaker 3: this is probably a spot where if we could Buy
Speaker 3: jared a little bit more, rest if we could not
Speaker 3: overly tax, him let's take a long term. Approach this
Speaker 3: is an opportunity to experiment with some. Things let's go
Speaker 3: with some of these No jared No evan, lineups like
Speaker 3: who knows kind of what the thinking is, there BUT
Speaker 3: i think that there's you, know a variety of things
Speaker 3: that could lead to that.
Speaker 1: Decision and that's why, coaching even the stuff we think
Speaker 1: we can easily, interpret like, rotations is always going to
Speaker 1: be a bit of a Black bob. Yep moving to
Speaker 1: That bulls game JUSTIN i gotta, say you, know that
Speaker 1: game was. Ugly you, know it was The cavs just
Speaker 1: were not Guarding Talen. Horton tucker was on his revenge
Speaker 1: store against the. World he was in the role Of
Speaker 1: Zachary resche in that game where it just borrowed shooter
Speaker 1: that can't.
Speaker 2: Miss, YEAH i.
Speaker 1: Mean couldn't, miss Couldn't it was getting to the rim
Speaker 1: every time he. Wanted you, Know collins was having a great.
Speaker 1: Game it was just not their. Game and then they
Speaker 1: score thirty two points in five. Minutes AND i was
Speaker 1: sitting there thinking watching that fourth, quarter watching that seven
Speaker 1: minute to two minutes stretching the fourth just giggling at
Speaker 1: WHAT i was. Watching AND i left it feeling LIKE
Speaker 1: i think that is my new favorite. Cavalanche it was
Speaker 1: not the most important cavalanche that has. Happened they've had
Speaker 1: way more high stakes. Ones they've had probably better like individual.
Speaker 1: Play but there's something About Javonte green launching a logo
Speaker 1: three and it barely even hitting the. Net it was
Speaker 1: so pure and like it was just like every possession
Speaker 1: down a different really fun thing happened and, felt you,
Speaker 1: know like with this, TEAM i do think they're so
Speaker 1: fueled by joy and not fueled by you, know like
Speaker 1: all right now it's time to get serious. Boys you,
Speaker 1: Know like that's not like their energy when they when
Speaker 1: they turn it. On and like Even jared like kind
Speaker 1: of having That i'm, Him i'm him moment and then
Speaker 1: he breaks it out. Laughing he couldn't hold it for three, seconds,
Speaker 1: LIKE i don't, know, man that was my ABSOLUTELY i
Speaker 1: think it's my new new favorite cavalanche after probably the
Speaker 1: original one against The pacers With kevin Hitting jetty in
Speaker 1: the corner with behind the back.
Speaker 2: Pass. Yeah, Man and we should probably get To kevin
Speaker 2: and in just a little bit, here.
Speaker 3: But you're, Right and but that run Against chicago kind
Speaker 3: of made me think about BECAUSE i was thinking to you,
Speaker 3: know our analysis from the past couple of years where
Speaker 3: we talked about how The cavs secret and the reason
Speaker 3: why they're so good is they play really, hard like
Speaker 3: they're connected all the. Time this isn't a team that
Speaker 3: can just kind of flip the, switch you, know when
Speaker 3: we think back to two years ago with a twenty
Speaker 3: two to twenty three, seasons not a ton of depth
Speaker 3: on the roster at that time because they just made
Speaker 3: a consolidation. Trade so WHEN i look at that run Against,
Speaker 3: chicago it kind of like resonated with me, that, oh
Speaker 3: we're now at that point where we can kind of
Speaker 3: flip the. Switch we have enough, depth we have that.
Speaker 3: ABILITY i don't THINK i don't like that. Either i'm just, saying,
Speaker 3: like we now, have you, know that level of, talent
Speaker 3: that level experience where, hey there's a little bit of
Speaker 3: switch flipping. HERE i do still, think echoing back to
Speaker 3: WHAT i said at the start of the, PODCAST i
Speaker 3: think how we're playing right now is, very very similar
Speaker 3: to how we played in some of those funks and
Speaker 3: some of those lulls and slumps in the. Season And
Speaker 3: i'm very interested to see do we correct that before
Speaker 3: it bites, us before you, know we lose two out of,
Speaker 3: three or before we have a loss to a team
Speaker 3: that we shouldn't lose against without that negative reinforcement as
Speaker 3: an end result from the, game are we able to
Speaker 3: kind of correct things and get out of those slumps
Speaker 3: and amend some of those bad, habits or does the
Speaker 3: fact that we keep getting positive reinforcement with these comeback
Speaker 3: wins end up resulting in us having one of those
Speaker 3: prolonged slumps that takes us off that pace that we're
Speaker 3: keeping an eye on, Of, hey can they get sixty seven?
Speaker 3: Wins that's that's Something i'm really interested in BECAUSE i
Speaker 3: feel like that first slump that we had came directly
Speaker 3: after we had a few comeback wins and games where you,
Speaker 3: know we just kind of took over in the fourth
Speaker 3: quarter after not playing our best basketball.
Speaker 1: Before, YEAH i, mean it's definitely a consideration because it's
Speaker 1: not just the The Portland Chicago. MIAMI i don't think
Speaker 1: they've played that good of a game against The. CELTICS
Speaker 1: i think they had great. Moments there were moments of,
Speaker 1: Greatness but you, know our our dear friendiation in the
Speaker 1: discord AND i were kind of going back and forth
Speaker 1: in our game thread channel during that just being like
Speaker 1: quit playing the dribble Against Jason tatum when all he
Speaker 1: wants is to step, back you, Know, like, yeah the
Speaker 1: little DETAILS i thought was were not as sharp Against
Speaker 1: boston as they have been in the.
Speaker 2: Past you.
Speaker 1: KNOW i just so, LIKE i don't think this is
Speaker 1: just a matter of they just were kind of playing
Speaker 1: with their. FOOD i think they're they're going through a
Speaker 1: little bit of a stretch where they're just not quite as,
Speaker 1: sharp which is, like you, know, normal and like normally
Speaker 1: it's way less fun than, this AS i kind of
Speaker 1: said at the beginning of the. Podcast so, yeah it
Speaker 1: was definitely it was like the most fun switch flip.
Speaker 1: Possible you. Know it was like, okay and it felt
Speaker 1: like all they needed to do is lock in on
Speaker 1: defense and then everything just started unlocking for. Them you,
Speaker 1: know they got, running they got you, Know jared got
Speaker 1: going with a couple two way plays and oh my,
Speaker 1: goodness Was jared good in that. GAME i mean that
Speaker 1: was kind of my wider, segue which is WHEN i
Speaker 1: watch him do that justin SOMETIMES i think you need
Speaker 1: to shoot, More, jared like because the touch with his
Speaker 1: left hand as he's catching in traffic and stepping through
Speaker 1: and protecting the ball and like in weaving through the
Speaker 1: traffic to. Finish some of those finishes were. Unbelievable and
Speaker 1: SOMETIMES i forget how good his touch is in in
Speaker 1: a not you, know in that traffic. Environment you. KNOW
Speaker 1: i think Sometimes jared can have games where it's like
Speaker 1: if they're in front of, him he just kind of
Speaker 1: keeps the ball moving and doesn't play like. Selfishly, Yeah
Speaker 1: and in a game Where evan's, out you kind of
Speaker 1: see him be, like, Well i'm going to need to
Speaker 1: like Be i'm going to need to attack WHEN i
Speaker 1: get the. Ball as a role, MAN i can't look
Speaker 1: to play team. BALL i just got to attack the
Speaker 1: hoop And i've left that. Game she's being Like, jared
Speaker 1: like you can do that against a lot of.
Speaker 2: Teams.
Speaker 3: Yep, Yeah and you, know SOMETIMES i think it's on.
Speaker 3: Him sometimes you, know it's, hey maybe they needed a
Speaker 3: reminder of What jared can. Do and you, know often
Speaker 3: with big, men they're reliant on other people to defeed
Speaker 3: them the, ball, Right AND i think one of the
Speaker 3: great things About jared is he's able to recognize what
Speaker 3: the defense is giving him as. Well like it wasn't
Speaker 3: just that he had twenty five and seventeen on the
Speaker 3: night Against, chicago had three, assists by the, Way oh my, God,
Speaker 3: yeah that's. Insane he also but he also had you,
Speaker 3: know three assists because he can recognize when the defense
Speaker 3: is trying to cheat and take things away from him
Speaker 3: and find the open. Man he had two steals because
Speaker 3: that sense of team basketball and where the passes are
Speaker 3: going to go translates to the defensive side of the. Ball,
Speaker 3: like he's just a, really really intelligent. Player and OBVIOUSLY
Speaker 3: i don't think that he's playing at one hundred percent
Speaker 3: health right, now but seeing him still have a game
Speaker 3: like that as he works his way back to the
Speaker 3: full health was really really encouraging to. See and you,
Speaker 3: KNOW i think he's a, big big part of what
Speaker 3: makes this team so. Special AND i think you're. RIGHT
Speaker 3: i think there's times, where, hey we could probably get
Speaker 3: him going to the basket a little more like. That
Speaker 3: that was honestly one of my gripes with the our
Speaker 3: start Against boston WAS i felt, Like, hey we're not
Speaker 3: really attacking the basket a whole. Lot LIKE i understand
Speaker 3: That Al horford has given us issues at, times but
Speaker 3: we're having just a little bit too much reverence for,
Speaker 3: Him like we were able to get jareded going in
Speaker 3: that game against Christats, Porzingis, LIKE i, think what did
Speaker 3: he have eighteen and seventeen or something crazy like that
Speaker 3: in the game Against Boston Nomen, Like it's not like
Speaker 3: this is a matchup where he can't have, Success and
Speaker 3: you would think it'd be even more easy to get
Speaker 3: some of those easy buckets Against boston Without porzingis in.
Speaker 3: There SO i thought that maybe that that was something
Speaker 3: that they could have done better to start that. Game
Speaker 3: to your point about them not playing, great BUT i
Speaker 3: THINK i would disagree just a little bit. OVERALL I
Speaker 3: I i get where you were coming from with that,
Speaker 3: game BUT i think some of it was, just, man
Speaker 3: they're they're hitting absolutely, everything so we're going to, nitpick you,
Speaker 3: know the the nuances of defense when in, general Normally
Speaker 3: Jason tatum misses.
Speaker 2: A lot of those.
Speaker 1: Shots, yeah, fair you, KNOW i just THOUGHT i thought
Speaker 1: their detail work just wasn't at WHAT i would consider
Speaker 1: their usual. Standard going back to The bulls, GAME i
Speaker 1: think the other guy we got to talk about Is Chafonte,
Speaker 1: green who gets his first. Rotation. MINTS i thought it
Speaker 1: was a, great great lever to pull From, kenney. THOUGH
Speaker 1: i mean he said he was planning on it when
Speaker 1: he was doing his post game. Availability it wasn't a
Speaker 1: break glass in case of A Javonte. Green this was
Speaker 1: like the plan to put him in early in this.
Speaker 1: Game AND i thought him And ocoro together really changed
Speaker 1: the entire energy of the game they started closing. OUT i, mean,
Speaker 1: boy are those arms long For? Green he covers ground so, well,
Speaker 1: Dude and he's balanced and you, know he's one of
Speaker 1: those one of those guys where the contest is is
Speaker 1: closer than the opposing player thinks it's going to be
Speaker 1: as they go. Up you know that that WINGSPAN i
Speaker 1: think closes the gap really really, well and he'sun balance
Speaker 1: and all that fun. STUFF i thought he had about
Speaker 1: as good of a debut as you could have. Expected
Speaker 1: what were your thoughts from?
Speaker 2: Him?
Speaker 3: YEAH i thought he was really. FUN i liked him
Speaker 3: And ocoro checking in. TOGETHER i kind of like having
Speaker 3: him as a guy For ocoro to kind of like
Speaker 3: get mentored from to some examp to some, extent, right
Speaker 3: Because Javonte green is not as good of a three
Speaker 3: point shooter As isaac O, corol but he with his
Speaker 3: activity and the way that he flies around the. Court
Speaker 3: that is exactly how you buy, yourself you, know, Time
Speaker 3: that's how you buy yourself. OPPORTUNITY i think that he
Speaker 3: as we set after the, BIO i think he's a
Speaker 3: great insurance piece because he can play two through four
Speaker 3: with that activity level and the length that you. Reference
Speaker 3: but just the way he crashes the, glass the way
Speaker 3: that he's always, moving that's exactly the type of player
Speaker 3: That Isaacle coro needs to be so that you, know
Speaker 3: we're not just living and dying with the three point.
Speaker 3: Shot you, are you, know filling up the box. Score
Speaker 3: and speaking of, Which ocor had one flying rebound tonight
Speaker 3: that jumped off the screen like he is looking At. Athletic
Speaker 3: he's giving them great. Minutes BUT i like having two options,
Speaker 3: there right because you don't, Know, hey Is Isaac ocor
Speaker 3: going to have issues in the. Playoffs, AGAIN i don't
Speaker 3: think it's as likely BECAUSE i think he's being used
Speaker 3: in different ways rather than you, know standing in the
Speaker 3: corner and his success being judged on whether or not
Speaker 3: he hits that. Shot but if he does have a
Speaker 3: series where you know things aren't going his way and
Speaker 3: you need to go to someone that can bring that
Speaker 3: defensive stopper kind of. Mentality Javonte green is an option
Speaker 3: you can go. To right his depth is overrated in
Speaker 3: the playoffs options are not.
Speaker 1: WELL i think there's also just the the factor Of
Speaker 1: oquoro And green being the best guard defenders on the. Roster,
Speaker 1: yeah you, know AND i feel like him showing, that, like,
Speaker 1: HEY i can come in and muck up the game
Speaker 1: against a team that's playing e leite initiator kind of
Speaker 1: guard that is giving us some. TROUBLE i thought it
Speaker 1: just gives them a little bit of a different, option you,
Speaker 1: Know LIKE i felt like they guarded different With ocoro
Speaker 1: In green out there than they would have guarded With
Speaker 1: ocoro And wade out. There AND i Love wade as a,
Speaker 1: defender but there's just a you, know it's a different,
Speaker 1: style it's a different versatility for them to. Have SO
Speaker 1: I i AND i think that's what's really exciting about
Speaker 1: the guy is that he's kind of a two through
Speaker 1: four on defense and they didn't really. HAVE i don't
Speaker 1: even know If okoro is that really he's more of a,
Speaker 1: tooth you, know one to three on. Defense, yeah but you,
Speaker 1: know just him being a little little long a.
Speaker 3: Good job On, like you, KNOW i we probably shouldn't
Speaker 3: speak as confidently In Javanti green's ability to go to
Speaker 3: through four because we haven't really seen.
Speaker 1: IT i just feel Like i've seen him play a
Speaker 1: lot of four in his. Career you know it's, true
Speaker 1: so but you, KNOW i don't. Know it just FELT
Speaker 1: i felt like they had a slightly different kind of
Speaker 1: dude on the. Roster And i've said this a. Lot
Speaker 1: when you're looking for deep depth pieces that are not
Speaker 1: going to be in your day to day, rotation you
Speaker 1: want one of two. Things you either want a guy
Speaker 1: who plugs into exactly what you do and provides, insulation
Speaker 1: or you want a guy who does something completely. Different
Speaker 1: you know that like has a skill or an energy
Speaker 1: that maybe isn't quite matched by anyone else on the.
Speaker 1: Roster AND i feel Like green kind of represents some
Speaker 1: version of a middle ground there where he isn't quite
Speaker 1: A quoro, Clone like there are some meaningful, differences like
Speaker 1: can being a freak, Athlete, yeah but he. Can but
Speaker 1: he can do. Both you, know he can do the
Speaker 1: job even if he's going to do it. Differently SO
Speaker 1: i feel like he's a nice blend AND i, mean
Speaker 1: just remember he was starting games for That pelicans team
Speaker 1: and now he. Can't you, know he's not even in
Speaker 1: the rotation. Here SO i just feel like it's such
Speaker 1: an embarrassment of riches for this team in the middle
Speaker 1: of the roster and now at the even the bottom
Speaker 1: of the.
Speaker 2: Roster, yeah, YEAH i totally. AGREE i thought it was a,
Speaker 2: really really fun.
Speaker 3: Debut the depth of this team continues to just really
Speaker 3: blow me, away AND i think it's going to serve
Speaker 3: them really well over these last twenty games of the.
Speaker 3: SEASON i can't believe there's still twenty games. Left that's it's,
Speaker 3: nuts but it's gonna be a challenging march for.
Speaker 1: Them do you want the playoffs to get here or
Speaker 1: do you still, like are you still enjoying the ride and?
Speaker 1: THAT i guess those aren't mutually, exclusive but, YEAH i
Speaker 1: kind of want that you feel about.
Speaker 3: IT i want the playoffs to get, here just Because
Speaker 3: i've had so much Post All Star, break LIKE ptsd
Speaker 3: when it comes to injuries and other things like. That
Speaker 3: LIKE i part of me wants to see more problem.
Speaker 3: SOLVING i want to see guys work through some. STUFF
Speaker 3: i want to see different lineup. Combination i'd like to,
Speaker 3: see you, Know hunter with the core for that still
Speaker 3: hasn't happen since his first. Game, like there's things THAT
Speaker 3: i still want to see from the regular, season BUT
Speaker 3: i also just want this very very good team THAT
Speaker 3: i know is very very good to be whole and
Speaker 3: tested in the. Playoffs like That's i'm really really interested
Speaker 3: to see what that looks.
Speaker 1: Like, Yeah i'm kind of in the middle of. It you,
Speaker 1: Know i'm enjoying the regular. Season, still there's always the
Speaker 1: you only have so many games left in the year
Speaker 1: counter That i'm always looking at as a guy who
Speaker 1: really really loves watching basketball and really really loves watching The.
Speaker 1: Cavs but then there's also the THE i don't know
Speaker 1: how much MORE i need them to prove to me
Speaker 1: in this. Setting, yeah but then then on the other,
Speaker 1: HAND i want to see him like can they get
Speaker 1: to sixty, seven sixty, eight sixty nine? WINS i want
Speaker 1: to See the streak is very motivated to me right,
Speaker 1: now you, know it's it's Been it's really nice to have,
Speaker 1: This like if they were kind of.
Speaker 3: Cool to like set the franchise record win streak and
Speaker 3: then beat that win streak that you set earlier this,
Speaker 3: season like setting the franchise record twice in a, year
Speaker 3: it would be a hell of an.
Speaker 1: Accomplishment, yeah before we went, ALIVE i asked, you, like
Speaker 1: where do you think the streak? Ends and you threw
Speaker 1: out a couple things Like milwaukee or Maybe, memphis and you,
Speaker 1: Know i'm throwing out.
Speaker 2: Maybe brooklyn because you know we haven't been playing.
Speaker 1: Well but it was so. Funny but THEN i just,
Speaker 1: SAID i was, like, well they never, lose SO i
Speaker 1: don't know where to. LOOK i don't know. WHAT i
Speaker 1: don't know where the signs are, coming you know?
Speaker 2: Where? Where where is the?
Speaker 1: Uh like there's not enough track record for losses for
Speaker 1: this team for me to. See like with The lebron,
Speaker 1: TEAMS i could see a loss a mile. Away there
Speaker 1: were tremors before the. Earthquake, here LIKE i know exactly
Speaker 1: what this. Means oh, yeah there's a loss coming in one.
Speaker 1: Day like even if they were, great even if they
Speaker 1: were in good, FORM i knew when a loss was.
Speaker 1: Coming and NOW i just am like every game's kind
Speaker 1: of an, Adventure SO i, DO i. DO i am
Speaker 1: still very much enjoying the, journey but LIKE i, mean
Speaker 1: you've seen MY. Dms i'm perpetually angsty about injuries BECAUSE
Speaker 1: i just so so, OVERTLY i KNOW i. Am it's
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i just so desperately want this team to get
Speaker 1: to the playoffs hole and like in good form so
Speaker 1: we can really without a.
Speaker 2: Doubt, no AND i really.
Speaker 3: Do think that you should take advantage of the resources
Speaker 3: available to. YOU i am the ultimate barometer and like
Speaker 3: record keeper of every minor ailment that has ever happened
Speaker 3: to A Cleveland.
Speaker 1: Cavalier, yeah BUT i think you're zagging just Because i'm too.
Speaker 2: Angsty i'm not. Zaging i'm not Zagon you're just making
Speaker 2: fun of.
Speaker 3: Me, no SOMETIMES i, am BUT i make it very
Speaker 3: clear When i'm making fun of. YOU i honestly think you,
Speaker 3: know like if we're looking at, IT dg has not
Speaker 3: been the same since you, know he took his fall
Speaker 3: against The. KNICKS i think that's very very. Clear but
Speaker 3: WHEN i look at The boston, GAME i thought he
Speaker 3: was moving around. WELL i thought he actually played a good.
Speaker 3: GAME i was higher on that game than you were
Speaker 3: by quite a.
Speaker 2: BIT i look at these.
Speaker 3: Last two, games what like quite a bit a. Bit,
Speaker 3: Yeah i'm feeling worse sneaking that one. End most of
Speaker 3: the WORDS i say aren't intentional card that's just me
Speaker 3: showing space so my brain can get to the next.
Speaker 3: Sentence but WHEN i look at like his recent, GAMES
Speaker 3: i think that a lot of this doesn't look like
Speaker 3: he's not getting to his. SPOTS i feel like he
Speaker 3: is just in a slump from a shooting. STANDPOINT i
Speaker 3: thought the game Against chicago was actually interesting because that
Speaker 3: was one of the first TIMES i could, remember maybe
Speaker 3: since the first game Against, boston where the misshots were
Speaker 3: getting him to start taking really bad. Shots and you,
Speaker 3: know maybe you could spin that, as, hey it's better
Speaker 3: than him fading into the background and not shooting anymore
Speaker 3: like we used to see in the past when we're
Speaker 3: trying to win a championship and we're at the. Standard
Speaker 3: neither extreme is the right. ANSWER i would, prefer you, know.
Speaker 1: The extremist play.
Speaker 3: Good, yeah well, no the honestly the the what the
Speaker 3: middle ground is is what happening Against. BOSTON i thought
Speaker 3: he took good. SHOTS i will live with the misses
Speaker 3: that he. TOOK i honestly Like miami closer to. THAT i,
Speaker 3: think for the most, part is a pretty efficient. GAME
Speaker 3: i thought the passing was really. Good, uh if there
Speaker 3: wasn't that one grenade at the end of the shot,
Speaker 3: clock it probably was a pretty good shooting night from.
Speaker 3: Him but you, know in, general like just play your,
Speaker 3: game take the shots as they. COME i understand when
Speaker 3: you're in a slump you want to shoot your way
Speaker 3: out of. It BUT i feel like he's moving around,
Speaker 3: well and this is just one of those things that,
Speaker 3: happens uh in a you, know four game stretch throughout
Speaker 3: the course of a.
Speaker 1: Year here's here's.
Speaker 2: Hoping you.
Speaker 1: KNOW i felt like he played completely fine. Tonight you,
Speaker 1: know didn't have the most efficient, night but still a
Speaker 1: ten assists to two. Turnovers you, know got to his
Speaker 1: spots pretty. WELL i felt like the offense was coming
Speaker 1: pretty well with him on the. Floor.
Speaker 3: Yeah the only Thing i'll say about him getting to
Speaker 3: his spots is he didn't take a shot inside the
Speaker 3: three point arc in the first, half and it felt
Speaker 3: just maybe a little Like fred van vitally floating around
Speaker 3: on the outside instead of getting that driving kick game.
Speaker 2: Going so MAYBE i.
Speaker 3: Would have liked to see a little bit of. That
Speaker 3: but THOUGH i thought overall it was a fine. Game
Speaker 3: he turned his ankle in the fourth quarter Against, miami
Speaker 3: who we'll see what happens, there given how cautious they've
Speaker 3: been with, injuries and maybe if they feel like he
Speaker 3: could benefit from a rest. Game there's an Opportunity friday
Speaker 3: Against charlotte get him ready for The. Bucks SO i
Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised to see. That BUT i honestly just
Speaker 3: think it's a, slump AND i don't think that it's
Speaker 3: any surprise that When DG's in a bit of a,
Speaker 3: slump The cavs as a whole going a bit, slim
Speaker 3: because which is WHY i, SAID i want TO i
Speaker 3: care more about his a game in a series Against
Speaker 3: boston than like than anyone else's because of, THAT i
Speaker 3: think he really is the. THING i think the thing
Speaker 3: that makes us the most special right now is our you,
Speaker 3: KNOW nba record, offense and the one who makes our
Speaker 3: offense the most, special the most, consistently your, Boy Darius.
Speaker 2: Garland, yeah, Yep, Hey.
Speaker 3: I'll add this just because they did a little bit
Speaker 3: of research after the last, podcast BECAUSE i was trying
Speaker 3: to figure out exactly where his defense was at for
Speaker 3: those four, games just to see how many field goals
Speaker 3: is he, allowing how or his man how is his
Speaker 3: man shooting Versus darius compared to when they're not playing Against.
Speaker 3: DARIUS i did find THE nba Dot com tracking data
Speaker 3: says he's allowing seven point five shot midfield goals a,
Speaker 3: Game so seventeen points per game was what he was.
Speaker 3: Allowing his man when defended By darius shot seven percent
Speaker 3: worse than how they otherwise.
Speaker 2: Shot so they were shooting.
Speaker 3: Forty eight point nine percent from two point range within six.
Speaker 3: Feet actually we're shooting fifteen percent. Worse so when you're talking, about,
Speaker 3: okay is it a net positive when he's out there
Speaker 3: if his SHOT's not. Falling you, know he did average
Speaker 3: nineteen in those four. Games if you take out that
Speaker 3: first one twenty. Two he was playmaking really well those
Speaker 3: last few. Games SO i, still you, know stand by
Speaker 3: EVERYTHING i said in those. GAMES i think that he's
Speaker 3: rushing some of those. Shots he needs to settle down
Speaker 3: and maintain his composure Against. Boston but for all the
Speaker 3: talk about the, defense AND i think some of that
Speaker 3: was influenced by how much the broadcast was talking about,
Speaker 3: it even though you, know there weren't really that many
Speaker 3: field goal attempts period Versus. Darius for all that, TALK
Speaker 3: i thought it was worthwhile to look at the numbers and, see,
Speaker 3: hey they're actually shooting worse than expected when when they
Speaker 3: play Against.
Speaker 1: AARIUS i. AGREE i don't have anything to. ADD i
Speaker 1: mean that masteres my. EYE i care way more about
Speaker 1: his offense THAN i worry about his. Defense me too
Speaker 1: in this, series and uh uh in that in that potential,
Speaker 1: series AND i just want to see. IT i want
Speaker 1: to see it come to.
Speaker 3: Fruition, yeah, yeah Because boston's going to play mismatch. Basketball
Speaker 3: like you, know listening to The simmons And brazilo like
Speaker 3: that was their number one complain about the. Team, it's,
Speaker 3: hey they don't run. Anything they just, Say, okay who's
Speaker 3: the shortest guy on the. Court we're you, know we're
Speaker 3: going to go at, him let's force a. Switch we're
Speaker 3: going to play isolation. Basketball wherever we have the, mismatch
Speaker 3: you sub someone out for For, darius for for defense.
Speaker 3: Reasons they're going to do the exact same thing To.
Speaker 3: Donovan they did that last year in the. Playoffs it's
Speaker 3: not about how they are as a. Defender it's, hey
Speaker 3: that guy shorter than our, Guys we're going to try
Speaker 3: to shoot over.
Speaker 1: Them, absolutely, brother anything.
Speaker 3: Else before we wrap this, up let's let's talk a
Speaker 3: little bit About Kevin love because.
Speaker 2: That that's true.
Speaker 1: Idea, yeah it's just nice to see him, back nice
Speaker 1: to see it was cool even Seeing angel working. Sideline you,
Speaker 1: know it was just a nice Little kazarini interest In
Speaker 1: kevin coming and Mobbin Richard. JEFFERSON i JUST i always
Speaker 1: go back to what a special locker room that, was
Speaker 1: and how clearly like bonded they are all from that.
Speaker 1: Experience and it was also cool to Hear kevin say
Speaker 1: that if he ever makes The hall Of, fame he'd
Speaker 1: love to be inducted as a. Cavalier you, know that's
Speaker 1: that's special because if you look at the front end
Speaker 1: of his time, here like you weren't sure it was
Speaker 1: going to be a happy. Marriage, no you weren't sure
Speaker 1: that he was going to remember his time In cleveland,
Speaker 1: Finally so the fact that you, know he's going out
Speaker 1: of his way to say something like that just goes
Speaker 1: to show how special his time here was for. Him
Speaker 1: and he was a very special, cavalier that's for damn.
Speaker 2: Sure yeah he really, wasn't you.
Speaker 3: KNOW i think it's a good example of how tenuous
Speaker 3: the team building process can be at, times and you,
Speaker 3: know discussing fit when you have expectations and the pressure
Speaker 3: that that puts. On But kevin went through a lot
Speaker 3: with The. Calves you, know he was there for a
Speaker 3: lot of really big moments and stepped. Up really cool
Speaker 3: tweet here From Tom, Withers Kevin love said after the
Speaker 3: Game he's been told his jersey will be retired by
Speaker 3: The calves and hung next To Nick gilbert's And Rocket.
Speaker 3: Arena oh, yeah WHICH i think is really really.
Speaker 2: Cool and you, know.
Speaker 1: Also shout To angel wearing the bow tie. Pen, yeah you,
Speaker 1: KNOW i thought that was a nice.
Speaker 3: Touch i'm glad you mentioned that she was there for the.
Speaker 3: Covers that the whole kind of kaz reunion feel for
Speaker 3: this game was really. Good and you, know you KNOW
Speaker 3: i always enjoy our j on the. Call another national, Game.
Speaker 3: Carter we just keep winning all these NATIONAL tv. Games
Speaker 3: put The calves ON tv more, often.
Speaker 1: No, kidding, man. Unbelievable what a.
Speaker 3: Run and you know we even give closer games now
Speaker 3: because those first year that they put us, on they
Speaker 3: were twenty thirty point, loss you, know wins by The.
Speaker 3: Caves people are tuning out in the middle of the third.
Speaker 3: Quarter now we're providing. Entertainment now we're Providing come let
Speaker 3: me tell, You, yeah we know. Exactly you know how to,
Speaker 3: pander what what, sells what sells ON, tv and what
Speaker 3: sells is The Cleveland. Cavaliers big thanks to everyone that
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