WEBVTT - Patriots Catch-22 4/30: Recapping the 2024 NFL Draft 0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:10.320 This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:12.040 Lazar and Alex Bart. 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:14.120 And Lazarre. 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:17.320 Hello, everybody nailed it, joined us always by our bar. 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:24.040 Here is Evan Lazar and Alex Bars. You know the 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:30.280 distracted boyfriend name? Yeah, it's you, Josh Allen and Drake May. 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:33.760 Why is everybody so obsessed with me and Josh Allen? 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:36.800 Because you're obsessed with Josh, Well, I am not obsessed 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:40.280 with Josh Allen. That's not true. I said one thing 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:42.880 to him in the tunnel in the at at an 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:46.640 Orchard Park one time, like two years ago, and I 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:47.880 haven't been able to live. 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:50.040 In I just showed you. I just showed you a 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:51.720 funny meme. You're the one that's getting defensive. 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:56.160 That sounds about right. I just showed you a funny 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:58.400 meme and you're the one that's getting defensive. Is like 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:01.800 the basically the cru of our entire friendship pretty much. 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:04.400 That's what it's all about, all right. Evan Lazara, Alex 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:07.679 bar sorrow re late. Sorry, sorry everybody. Sorry. There was 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:13.720 an accident maybe on ninety three here in Boston, and 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:16.640 it took me about an hour and thirty minutes to 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:20.160 get here. Not that anybody cares about my traffic or 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:21.600 my morning commute, but. 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:23.880 Sorrow relate, all right, Bill would sit you. 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:27.160 Yeah, you're right. We'd probably get cut like Jonas Gray. Yeah, 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:29.720 we'd be done. We'd be done. I met Jonas Gray, 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:32.760 by the way. It's something different for the organization draft 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:35.560 party thing. Really super nice guy seems like it. Yeah, 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:37.640 super nice guy. Didn't deserve what he got and I'm 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:39.920 just kidding. I have no idea what he did. Anyways, 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:42.040 do you know what's easy to drink? Easy to enjoy? 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:43.360 Alex what bud like? 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:46.319 The official beer sponsor of the New England Patriots. And 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:49.400 Hey Patriots fans, if you want to see Toyota's best offers, 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:52.160 including those not seen on TV, go to buy toyota 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:55.240 dot com Toyota's official website for deals from the official 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:58.920 vehicle of the New England Patriots, Toyota. Let's go places, 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:02.480 all right, today's show, we are going to go pick 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:04.840 by pick from the Patriots draft. We're probably not gonna 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:07.880 talk too too much about Drake May because not only 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:09.679 did we talk about him on Friday Show. So you 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:12.280 can go listen back to Friday's show if you miss 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:14.280 that one, But we also talked about Drake May for 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:16.680 the last six months, so I think everybody pretty much 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:19.480 knows where we stand on Drake May at this point. 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:22.600 So we're gonna go rounds two through seven here. We're 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:26.280 gonna go pick by pick. We're also going to talk 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:29.079 a little bit, I'm sure about Christian Barmore and other 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:31.560 Patriots news that's going on. But this is gonna be 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:37.320 our draft recap heavy show here, and my biggest takeaway 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:40.639 from the draft is just to start big picture and 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:43.760 then we'll get into the new show of each individual prospect. 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:47.440 But my biggest takeaway from the draft, and the reason 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:54.120 why I come off optimistic about this draft, is that offensively, 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:59.720 they drafted with a schematic plan in mind, which is 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:03.960 what I like. I like the fact that we can argue, 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:06.560 and I'm sure we will, and we already have emailers 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:07.840 and you can call it an eight five to five 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:12.120 pats five hundred of people that are going to debate 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:14.480 whether they reached on certain players, or they got the 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:17.720 right players, or what have you. But I think when 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:21.040 you look at this nucleus that they're trying to build, 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:22.960 let's take the offensive line out of it. For a 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:26.480 second and just talk quarterback with Drake May. Receiver with 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:30.919 Jalen Polk, receiver with Javon Baker. These are complimentary pieces. 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:34.839 The two receivers fit Drake May's playing style, they fit 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:38.480 alex Van Pelts offense, and they're complimentary to each other. 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:41.600 Where Jalen Polk is more of this move zero receiver 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:46.800 Javon Baker or that prototypical down the field X receiver overlap, 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:50.360 not a ton of overlap, not a ton of you know, 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.280 issues in terms of, well, this guy's kind of this 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:56.960 and that guy. No, we know what everybody is. We 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:00.400 see how the pieces fit together, and I also see 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:03.320 how their skill sets. Two guys that can win the 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:06.080 ball down the field. And I know people want speed, 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:09.120 and I know people want separation, but what these two 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:14.440 guys do is have the hands and the body control 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:17.840 and all that kind of stuff to really be downfield 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:19.960 ball winners and go up and get the ball and 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:23.640 also win through traffic, which I think is something that 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:27.120 this regime looked at as maybe where they missed on 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:32.120 Taekwon Thornton, because let's face it, Elliott Wolf, Macro, Cameron Williams, 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:33.880 they were all here in twenty twenty two, when the 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:37.120 Patriots drafted Taekwon Thorton in the second round, they were 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:40.160 all in pretty high standing positions. Obviously, Bill Belichick had 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.960 the final say in the draft, but Macro's director of 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:45.480 player Personnel, Elliott Wolf was in a similar role. Cameron 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:48.080 Williams was in a similar similar role. I think what 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:52.440 they missed with Taekwon in something that I've adjusted my 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:55.760 process to as well as I've learned throughout the years 0:04:55.760 --> 0:05:00.800 about the draft, is just how important play straight in 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:05.400 playing through contact is at the NFL level, because you're 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:07.960 not going to separate by ten yards every single time 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:10.440 you run a route. Nine times out of ten, you 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:14.760 are going to be catching the ball with somebody hanging 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:17.320 all over you, or driving the catchpoint for MATA phase 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:21.000 or in traffic or high traffic areas over the middle 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.120 of the field. You're not going to be able to 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:26.160 just always run by people like you do in college. 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:29.080 And I think we watch these guys, these speed receivers 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:32.160 in college and they are ten yards behind the defense 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:34.240 all the time, and you're like, wow, look at this speed. 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:37.359 It's incredible. But then they get in the league and 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:40.680 then the passing windows they get smaller and smaller, and 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:43.400 at some point you have to have play strengths. You 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:45.360 have to be able to finish through contact. I think 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:47.680 that that's the goal. With these two receivers. You have 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:49.920 two guys that are ball winners, two guys that are 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.799 accuracy erasers for the quarterback that can contort their bodies 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:56.040 and make catches outside their catch radius or outside their 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.960 frame I should say, with their catch radius. And you 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:02.599 have a nice nucleus here. And the comparison that I 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:05.000 keep going back to in my head about this group 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:10.000 and is the green Bay Packers. Because A because of 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:12.320 the Elliot Wolf connection, that's obvious, but B when you 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:15.359 look at what they're doing. In twenty twenty two, the 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:18.640 Packers drafted Christian Watson in the second round, Romeo Dobs 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:20.760 in the fourth round. Then they came back last year 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.080 and drafted Jayden Reid on Day two, and then they 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.840 have this young quarterback in Jordan Love who's got a howitzer, right, 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:28.280 and they put it all together and now you have 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:34.039 a young nucleus to your offense that's cheap cost controlled 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:39.719 under contract and building together and growing together and developing together. Obviously, 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:43.440 green Bay, what's going on there in Packerland. That's a 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:45.960 ceiling for how this could go. Right. They won a 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.520 playoff game in Dallas last year. They're probably going to 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:50.679 be a dark horse candidate to win the Super Bowl 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:53.240 this year. The other team that I would look at 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:57.200 and similarly is the Houston Texans. You have Nico Collins, 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:00.320 you have Tank Dell, you have CJ. Stroud, right, these 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:05.200 young players that are blossoming together. The Texans unlike the 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:07.320 Packers because the Packers never spent in free agency or 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:11.400 do anything splashy. The Texans then added this offseason by 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.960 trading for Stefan Diggs. So if the Patriots want to 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:18.520 follow the Texans model, then this year they hope that 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:22.360 they see that they have something going with these guys, 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:25.560 and then they make the Digs type trade next offseason. 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:26.400 And that puts the cap on top of that. 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:29.320 Yeah, and maybe that's the that's the way that they 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:31.720 go about it, But for right now, I think you 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.160 can be excited if you're a Patriots fan about this 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:38.320 young nucleus of offensive weapons and quarterback obviously that they 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:42.080 have going on. And two, I think that the way 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:45.400 they were very thoughtful in how they drafted these receivers 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.040 for Drake May. Yeah, and I think that's a really 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:49.720 good thing as well. If you if you went out 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:51.960 there and you got you know, I love Roman Wilson, 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:54.200 you know, I love Roman Wilson, but that's a first 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:58.440 and second level separator. That's a guy that's a jitterbug 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:01.440 over the middle type of guy. They not that it 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:04.120 wouldn't have completely worked with Drake May, but that's not 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:06.400 really what Drake The short game is not Drake May's 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:09.720 calling cart. His calling card is the deep ball. So 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:11.520 you might as well go out and get two receivers 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:13.840 that can win down the field and win deep. I 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:16.840 really like how much thought they put into building the 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:20.000 puzzle and having the pieces fit together, and I think 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:22.680 that that's something that maybe they didn't do enough in 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:24.760 the past, especially on the offensive side of the ball. 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:28.200 Yeah, it's an old belichickism, right. It's not about collecting talent, 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:31.080 it's about building a team. And we talked about on 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:34.040 Friday how the goal now has to be to build 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:38.280 around Drake May. And that's what they did. They didn't 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:41.800 just go out and draft receivers. They drafted receivers whose 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:44.319 best skills line up with Drake May's best skills and 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:49.239 vice versus. So, yeah, you have this big arm downfield 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:53.720 quarterback who maybe isn't the most accurate, and then you 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:55.720 went out. You got two receivers who can make plays 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:57.240 down the field and know how to go outside their 0:08:57.280 --> 0:09:00.760 frame and catch the football. That's a that makes sense. 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:03.640 There's a pairing there, So on the wide receivers. I 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:05.800 really like how they operated. Look, I don't know what's 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:08.560 going on with Adie Mitchell. I you know, I liked 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:11.080 him better than Jalen Polk. But if they had information 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:15.600 I didn't, which is obviously incredibly possible, then you know, 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:17.920 I like Polk over say even and I know he 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:20.640 was much later, but even over a guy like Troy Franklin, 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.520 because if you think you have a plan for that 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:29.120 you know, just outside slim burner receiver. If you have 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:30.640 a plan for that guy, you already have that guy 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:32.439 in the building. You don't need to draft him again. 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:34.920 Faster version, just by the time speed. 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:38.120 Whereas I don't know that they had they did have 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:41.040 a guy like Jalen Polk in the building, and they 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:43.000 didn't pay him and let him go to the Raiders instead, 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:46.760 they had a guy. So when I look at it 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:50.680 too in terms of being complimentary Jalen Polk, there's a 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.520 lot of similarity to Jacobe Myers and to what I 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:56.360 think they wanted Juju from the Shoester to be last 0:09:56.440 --> 0:10:00.920 year with Javon Baker, and it is it's Javon, not Chevan. Yeah, 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:03.720 it's Jevon Cool. That's what Brugler had. Well, now you'll 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:06.319 love this as a Celtics fan. The Patriots have there, they 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.800 have the J's. Now they have their own Ja's Jon. 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:12.800 And you know, I gave you that comparison about uh, 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:14.120 I'll tell you. 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:15.800 And I don't know. I think it's jahem Bell, but 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:17.560 if it's Jay heme Bell even better. But I think 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:17.960 it's Gee. 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:19.559 I love that they have the jas, they have the 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:20.160 j Jal. 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:25.880 I thought you enjoy that, all right, But yeah, so 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.280 so Jalen Polk, I think is the guy they wanted 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:32.080 Juju smith Suster to be and Jaevon Baker kind of 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.560 profiles as the guy you think they wanted Devonte Parker 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:36.760 to be. So we'll see what happened. Like Juju still 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:38.280 might be on the team, We'll see what happens. But 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:41.040 you know, long term, at least they went out and 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:43.960 they clearly felt these are roles they want filled. But 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:46.720 the guys they had in place weren't filling them, weren't 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:48.720 good enough, and so they went out and you know, 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:51.440 they profiled the same. The question is can they play 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:53.720 the roles at a higher level. That's what this whole 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:56.400 thing's all about. Ultimately, we're gonna find out. But it 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:59.520 feels like they gave themselves a chance to Like, they 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:02.240 got guys that they can plug in. They got guys 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:04.839 that make sense. They didn't just go out and be like, well, 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:07.120 you know this receiver this, so we're gonna take him. No, 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:10.400 they there really feels like a calculated play here, and 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:11.520 all the picks fit together. 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:13.199 Yeah, it's a great way of putting it. Now, with 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:16.040 that being said, because we're not we're not always just 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:19.040 Sunshine dot Com, I gotta I gotta play both sides 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:20.920 of it a little bit. I think the one thing 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:23.920 that you can definitely say for the Patriots in this 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:28.400 draft is that when we look back on this draft 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:31.800 in hindsight, the three players I think that we're gonna 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:35.040 look back on and wonder, Yeah, if they got it right. 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.760 Xavier Ligett, who I think they wanted to trade up 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.319 for in the first round. Mike Reeves reported they wanted 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:43.760 to trade up. He said his hunch was Xavier Lgett. 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:47.000 Everybody's hunch is the Xavier leget It's it certainly sounds 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:50.280 like that was their target, and they traded up Lad 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:53.320 McConkie because he went with the original pick in the 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:53.920 second round. 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:57.640 I wonder how much, oh, you're saying that we're comparing 0:11:57.679 --> 0:11:59.480 them to. Yeah, I don't think the Patriots were interested 0:11:59.480 --> 0:11:59.959 in McConkie. 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:01.600 I don't think so either, and we can get to 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:04.640 that in a second. But fair or not, the J's 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:09.080 which I'm doing now, that's awesome. The jamb are going 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:11.200 to be compared, their careers are going to be compared 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:14.480 to these guys. That that's just the bottom line. It's 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:16.959 the same thing that we do with Taekwon Thornton and 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:18.760 George Pikett's right, like, did. 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:20.000 You add Troy Franklin on that list? 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.040 And I'm about to at Troy Franklin to that list. 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.080 I think Troy Franklin at the top of the fourth 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:26.280 round was with somebody that they were trying to target 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:30.679 and they got jumped by Denver. So my one criticism 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:34.920 of this draft, and and again, we don't know if 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:37.319 they're going to be right or wrong comparing them to 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:38.880 those receivers, So I'm not going to hold it against 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:41.360 them until they're wrong about it, right, Like, we don't know. 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:46.600 But my one criticism of this draft was I do 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:50.680 think that they weren't quite aggressive enough at times when 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:55.719 the runs started to happen at certain positions receiver. They 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:59.000 basically went There was a six receiver cluster that when 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:00.680 at the end of the first round, top of the 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:04.360 second round and they took the six to one right tackle, 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.320 it definitely seemed like they missed the boat on the 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:11.000 pure left tackles, you know, the Patrick Paul Kingley, Sumetia, 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:15.000 Brendan Coleman right that group on Day two and they 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:17.319 end up taking a guy that I think can play 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:19.400 in the league. I don't think Kayden Wallace is a 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.480 bad prospect. I think he's a better prospect than some 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:26.440 of the consensus boards had out there, certainly, but we're 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:28.640 talking about a position convert. Like the people that I've 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:32.199 talked to about Kidden Wallace feel like at right tackle 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:34.000 or guard, they feel pretty good that he could be 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.200 a starter in the league at left tackle. That's a 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:39.400 different story we'll see. And then at the top of 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:43.120 the fourth round. I believe, and I'm just just my belief. 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:46.600 I believe they got jumped for Troy Franklin, so they 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:49.760 end up getting Javon Baker. Hopefully he's just as good, 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:51.960 if not better, And we don't have to look back 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:55.440 on this as you know, aj Brown to Nikhil Harry, right, like, 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:58.160 I hope that's not the case, but that will be 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:01.160 in hindsight what everybody will hold hold their hat to. 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:06.760 So transitioning to Jalen Polk their first pick in this draft. 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:09.080 You know, we got an email here in this I 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:12.920 feel like alex is what a lot of people feel 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:18.080 about their day too, in particular. So this is from Alexander. 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:21.320 He says, we're going too easy on this regime. If 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:23.760 you're going to criticize Bill for overdrafting players, we have 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:25.960 to criticize Wolf and Mayo for taking the one hundred 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.120 and fiftieth prospect with the sixty eighth pick. So we're 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:30.080 talking about Kidd and Wallace. I thought he was talking 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.160 about Polk here. Polka is in a similar boat that 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:32.680 some people have. 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:36.000 I don't think Polk. I wouldn't call Polk overdrafted just 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:38.480 because of the way the board fell. Ye, and I 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:42.520 Wallace is the one, and look, you could argue he 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:45.000 was the best tackle on the board. But for a 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:49.440 team that desperately my nitpick with the Wallace selection is 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:51.320 and that they drafted him. My nitpick with the Wallas 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.200 selection is your team that needs to tackle. Once you 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:55.600 see that run start happening, you need to move up 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:58.840 and not get left with Caden Wallace. That's the second 0:14:58.840 --> 0:14:59.640 guest there for me. 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.520 Yeah, that's totally fair. But I agree with you one 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:05.840 hundred percent that I don't necessarily view Polk as a 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.600 as a as a total reach there. And I know 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:10.520 that I thought the email was about both of them, 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:13.240 but regardless, I think that's out there with both of 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:16.920 those guys. So I just want to read you here 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:20.560 are my Tier four receivers and what I when I 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:24.040 did my final rankings. I'll read them in order. And 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:27.239 this is before the draft, right, this is before the draft, 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:30.560 and uh, what I looked at with these guys is 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:34.160 I saw these guys as like pure wide receiver twos, 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:36.240 like guys that could be good wide receiver twos in 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:36.720 the league. 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:37.560 Not one bees. 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.080 We're not talking about t Higgins, Deavonte Smith, not quite 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:42.800 on that level. But a guy that can be a 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:46.240 really good complimentary receiver to a number one guy. Yeah, 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:48.440 maybe like a Kendrick Bourne, or like a Jacobe Myers 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:52.640 or you know, somewhere along that lines. So first in 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:56.320 the tier I had Lab McConkie, h Lab McConkie, Roman Wilson, 0:15:56.360 --> 0:16:00.280 Troy Franklin, Jalen Polk, and I had a Day two 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:03.920 grade on Jalen Polk. And my point is that I'll 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:07.640 keep reading actually the whole list, Jalen Polk, Ricky Piersall, 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:09.920 who I think was maybe the most overdrafted player in 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.120 the entire draft by the San Francisco forty nine ers. 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:13.680 But that's but he's gonna end up being good because 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:14.240 it's the Niners. 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:17.640 Maybe Jalen McMillan and Jermaine Burn. Those are all my 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:21.840 Tier four guys that all basically went, except Troy Franklin, 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:23.760 who slipped to the top of the fourth round for 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:27.640 whatever reason. Those guys all went on Day two. And 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:32.400 my view on it, Jalen Polk has his flaws, There's 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:36.160 no doubt about it. He's not a speed receiver. I 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:39.880 wouldn't call him a dynamic route runner. But Lad McConkie, 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:43.280 who's the most dynamic route runner at all these guys? Certainly, 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:47.080 But I think a lot of teams with Ladd McConkie 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:49.840 had flagged some of his injuries. And I would also 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:53.560 say that with Lad McConkie, playing strength is a concern. 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:57.680 And if you're a team that wants to prioritize stronger 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:00.600 guys at the catch point, stronger receivers on block, you know, 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:04.600 run blocking, you know, just bigger, stronger guys, Lad McConkie 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:06.920 at five eleven six was not gonna be your guy. 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:07.560 You know. 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:10.520 Jalen Polk's got twenty pounds on Lad conky in two inches. 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:13.560 Same similar thing with Roman Wilson, who I you know, 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:18.560 I absolutely loved. But Roman Wilson is a small, sleek 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:21.440 slot receiver. You know the comp that I used with 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:24.000 him or it was always on manro Saint Brown. He's 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:26.960 got good speed, he's got good shiftiness, he's got great 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:29.639 route running. But he's a pure slot like that that 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.800 is a pure inside guy without much size to him. 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:35.359 Troy Franklin, you I think hit the nail on the head, 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:41.760 slender out outside receiver, but somebody that fits the same 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.199 kind of body type and frame as a Taekwon Thornton. 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:46.800 And then you get to Jalen Polk, who has obvious 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:49.760 concerns about speed and separation down the field, There's no 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:57.720 doubt about it. But they obviously felt that his positives, 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:00.680 you know, heady route running, play straight at catch point 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.960 skills are what they were looking for, and they weren't 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:08.639 looking for the bursty slot receiver. And so here we 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:11.919 are with that being said, Like I said earlier, we 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:15.320 are going to look back in Lad mcconkee. I promise 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:17.720 you every step of the way, Lad mcconkee is going 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:20.040 to be compared to Jalen Polk. Yep, every step of 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:22.320 the way. What did you think of the Jalen Polk pick? 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:24.359 But my point of reading out the tears is that 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:26.280 I agree with you that I don't think that this 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:29.399 was a major reach because all those guys ended up 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:33.119 going pretty much in a run of like a round 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:37.600 or two. And then there was also you know McConkie, 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:41.400 Ricky Piersoll, Polk, like a lot of those guys went 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:44.160 within the span of like ten picks. So the run 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:46.919 was happening in this receiver class. We had heard so 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:49.639 much about how great this receiver class was. The league 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:52.400 obviously was crazy good high on the receiver class too, 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:54.879 because they just started taking these guys. The guys started 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:57.840 flying off the board. So I would say that it 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:01.359 wasn't a reach for Jalen Polk, But at the same time, 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:05.560 they're they're taking a risk on his flaws, just like 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:07.960 they would be taking the risk on Lad mccomiss. 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:09.840 If they like him, that's where they needed to take him. 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:12.840 And a guy that can go outside his frame and 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:15.080 get the football, a guy that has some vertical experience 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:17.080 is going to be a fit in this offense. So 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:20.000 you know what, I've liked them to maybe move back 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:22.679 into the first round and get safely get absolutely, But 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:25.800 I think for for where they were, it ended it 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:27.000 was a good pick. It was a fine pick. 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:32.040 Yeah, yeah, where where do we and this is maybe 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:35.200 we should save this for when we bring Javon Baker 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:37.159 into this, which I guess we can do and we'll get. 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:39.520 It's so much easier to talk about this draft by 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:40.960 position than going in order of picks. 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:44.399 And notice that, Yeah, so with Javon Baker, we just 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:47.399 broke down how great the puzzle fits together, and we 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:49.840 love it, you know, inside outside guys. But I think 0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:52.320 the bigger question, and before we get into like kind 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:56.639 of a scouting report on Javon Baker, is just who's 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:58.600 who's the odd man out in that receiver room now? 0:19:58.640 --> 0:19:59.960 I think this is gonna be the number one question 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:01.840 that we get over the next couple of months. Yeah, 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:04.640 they have even if you can, even if you want 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:07.720 to say that they don't have necessarily a ton of 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:10.320 high end talent in that receiver room just yet, they 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:12.040 have a lot of bodies in that receiver room. I 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:15.040 think there's one eleven guys in there now, So some 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:16.760 of these guys are gonna have to be the odd 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:19.080 men out and we're gonna have to see what ends 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:19.800 up happening there. 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:22.239 Yeah. And I think the two guys you look at 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:25.480 here Jujus ms Schuster and Taekwon Thornton. Yeah, because at 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:27.200 least with Juju, I mean, they've brought in a player 0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:29.920 with a very similar skill set who projects to play 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:31.880 the same role, and they took him in the second round. 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:34.560 So he's making the team, right, It's just a matter 0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:36.639 of how much he's playing and girod Meyo talked about 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:39.720 earlier this offseason playing the kids and getting these younger 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:42.400 guys experienced. So I think in Juju's regard to look 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:44.240 at that, and then when it comes to Taekwon, it's 0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:46.720 just a numbers thing. He has no guaranteed money on 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:51.000 his contract they're keeping. You have Pop Douglas, Kendrick Bourne, 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:53.359 and then the two draft picks a roster lock. So 0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:57.800 that's four guys. You feel like kJ Osborne probably is 0:20:57.800 --> 0:21:00.280 a pretty good shot to make the team, although he's 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:03.960 now I mean, they've got guys similar to him, and 0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:07.040 then does Jalen Rager make it just off special teams 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:10.080 ability and kick return ability? Now you're at six. So 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:14.320 to me, it's it's Osbourne, Rager, Smith, Schuster and Thornton 0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:16.639 for one or two spots. And if you want to 0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:18.520 throw kisha on Booty in there too, you can, yeah, 0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:20.760 but it's it's those guys for one or two spots. 0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:23.800 Yeah, I think kJ Osborne is gonna make the team 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:26.400 just because they signed him to this free agent deal. 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:28.240 It wasn't a lot of money. It's not about the 0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:31.119 money necessarily. Then they can cut him probably and not 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:34.440 necessarily feel it all that much. But I just feel 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:38.159 like you brought the guy in in free agency and 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:40.360 you gave him a little bit of guaranteed money. It'd 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:42.320 be weird to then turn around and just cut the guy, 0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:44.360 you know, yeah, unless he's terrible. 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:47.000 Obviously, okay, so well, but then you have so now 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:53.560 it becomes Juju Thornton booty rager for four spots. Yeah, 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:54.960 I wonder for one spot. 0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:58.520 Sorry, I do wonder what Juju if we start to 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:03.040 hear murmurings of June one cut, maybe even a trade 0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:05.640 for twenty twenty five, you know, late twenty twenty five, 0:22:05.680 --> 0:22:09.040 pick pick, swap, something along those lines. Somebody, I think 0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:12.680 it was Perillo, asked me what I see Jalen Polk's 0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:16.480 floor as an in the NFL, And I kind isn't 0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:20.000 it kind of late career Juju smith Shuster? Like, isn't 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:22.439 it kind of like last year Juju Smith Shuster? Is 0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:24.960 you know, his absolute floor? I feel like, and I know, 0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:27.280 you know, his floor could be like out of the league, 0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:30.399 right right. I understand that, but just in terms of, 0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:33.000 you know, a floor of yeah, he's an NFL player, 0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:36.560 but I feel like it's Juju Smith Schuster in terms 0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:40.200 of his ceiling. I think he's a souped up Jacobe Myers. 0:22:40.440 --> 0:22:41.280 He's a little bit. 0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:43.600 Faster, I said, yeah, a little bit faster, a little 0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:45.320 bit better on the nine route, a little bit more 0:22:45.400 --> 0:22:49.160 better down the field than Jacoby Myers is. But similar 0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:51.919 player and both of them are incredibly strong at the 0:22:51.920 --> 0:22:54.840 catch point with great hands. So I look at those guys, 0:22:54.840 --> 0:22:59.280 it's pretty similar with Javon Baker. The thing that's interesting 0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:01.640 about him and I I feel it, and I can 0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:04.600 understand it to an extent because I do think there's 0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:06.840 a little bit more upside there with him. I think 0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:12.120 Jalen Polk is your typical low floor or high floor prospect. 0:23:12.359 --> 0:23:14.080 You know, he's going to come into the league, he's 0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:16.240 going to stick in the NFL. Is he going to 0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:20.280 be an all world receiver Justin Jefferson, No, probably not, 0:23:21.040 --> 0:23:24.400 but he's going to be a pretty solid Jacobi Meyer, Meyers, 0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:26.399 Tyler Boyd. You know, those are some of the comps 0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:30.040 that you hear for him. With Javon Baker started at Alabama, 0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:34.240 was buried on the depth chart behind some studs, Devonte Smith, 0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:39.440 Jamison Williams, John MATCHI Yeah, four star recruit then transfers 0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:43.879 to UCF breaks out. Has two great seasons one, you know, 0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:47.400 last year led the Big twelve in receiving and there's 0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:50.040 a lot of potential there with him. There's also a 0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:53.399 lot of inconsistency to his game. He has some of 0:23:53.480 --> 0:23:56.800 the worst It's not that the volume of drops jumps 0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:59.520 six drops last year. It's not like that is terrible. 0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:02.480 But I was texting you about this yesterday. He has 0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:06.240 some of the worst drops in terms of the outcome 0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:10.840 that I've ever seen, where he's dropping the ball on 0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:14.119 wide open targets and they're going for interceptions to the 0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:17.840 other team. They're ricocheting off his hands and going for interceptions. 0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:20.240 He had one against them. I think it was against 0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:23.359 Boise State where he was in the end zone, wide 0:24:23.400 --> 0:24:26.320 opening the end zone like reche Caldwell did right, drops 0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:29.000 the ball and the ricochet goes off his hands and 0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:30.720 for an interception to the other team. 0:24:31.200 --> 0:24:33.159 Yeah, it's not great. I mean when you say that 0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:35.640 reminds me of Aaron Dobson. But I think and that's 0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:39.280 probably his floor. Yeah. That being said, what he can 0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:41.240 do explosively on the other end is exciting. 0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:41.600 I don't know. 0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:44.040 I see some like George Pickens there. He's not quite 0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:46.880 as athletic, but he's a boomer bust receiver. I think 0:24:46.920 --> 0:24:49.399 at his best he's gonna have games. Even at his best, 0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:52.120 he's gonna have games where he gets blanked, but then 0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:54.000 you know the next week he'll come out four catches, 0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:56.720 hundred and fifteen yards, two touchdowns. I just think that's 0:24:56.760 --> 0:24:58.560 the kind of guy he's gonna be. So some people 0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:01.639 get really nervous by that kind of if. If they 0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:05.800 can go out next year and trade for Brandon Ayuker, 0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:08.560 draft of Luther Burden to be the dictating number one, 0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:10.880 and then you have Baker and Poult next to him, 0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:13.639 that's a really good group if you're drafting Baker to 0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:15.920 be your number one. I just don't know that even 0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:19.359 with the flashes, I don't know that the consistency is there. 0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:21.960 Yeah, the two guys, I think that you hit it 0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:24.520 on the nail on the head there with the consistency, 0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:26.320 because I felt the same exact way, and when I 0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:28.919 wrote about him today on Patriots dot Com is exactly 0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:31.040 what I said. He's gonna have games or he's gonna 0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:32.960 leave the Patriots and receiving yards and he's gonna have 0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:36.359 games where he's invisible, right, and because of his playing style, 0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:39.119 not because he's not talented, but he's a big, big 0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:41.560 play receiver. So if he catches a sixty five yard 0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:44.920 touchdown that game, he's gonna be great next week. If 0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:47.040 he gets you know, doesn't have that big target down 0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:48.920 the field and he's not, his production is not gonna 0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:51.119 be so good. So I compared him to two guys 0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:55.480 from a body type athletics standpoint. He's Romeo Dobbs reincarnated. 0:25:55.760 --> 0:25:56.720 He's exactly the same. 0:25:57.520 --> 0:26:00.199 Tops was faster though, Wasn't he I faster? No? 0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:00.840 I don't think so. 0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:01.080 No. 0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:05.640 I think he's very very similar. I think Mark Draftible 0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:08.560 had It's like a ninety eight percent match for the 0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:11.640 two of them, and they play similarly where I think 0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:14.480 the one thing that I like about Javon Baker the 0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:19.679 most is that he's a pretty fluid, flexible route runner. 0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:22.000 At the top of routes. For a six foot one, 0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:24.560 two hundred and five pound guy, he can sink and cut. 0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:27.320 He can you know, stop on the vertical stem and 0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:29.920 create separation off his breaks at the second level. 0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:31.160 Is he a jitterbug? 0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:33.760 No, but he's got that fluidity and that ability to 0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:35.560 sink his hips and cut out of the break at 0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:38.399 the top that he's going to create some separation doing that. 0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:41.600 He also creates some separation with his explosiveness through the 0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:44.040 route break, especially on like double moves. You know, he 0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:46.600 can make guys look silly on double moves. So he's 0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:53.000 got a good setup of slant, dig out, go ball right, 0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:55.080 and then he can win two different ways. 0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:55.760 On the go ball. 0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:58.199 He can win down the field just running by you, 0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:00.000 and then he can also win on like a back 0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:02.479 shoulder or high point or something like that too and 0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:05.320 just post up on guys. So he's got a nice 0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:10.040 foundational set of X receiver route running ability that I 0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:13.880 think is encouraging. Jalen Polk to me right now has 0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:17.320 verticals and crossers like that's what he runs. Yeah, he 0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:20.200 doesn't necessarily, And part of it was because that wasn't 0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:22.639 a big part of Washington's offense. I looked this up 0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:27.000 and Michael Pannis never threw slants. He just doesn't throw 0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:29.120 slants like that's just not you know, the short game 0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:30.840 is just not something that they did. They were bombs 0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:33.920 away all game, every game, and so Jalen Polk has 0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:36.720 was targeted on inbreaking routes. I think it was a 0:27:36.720 --> 0:27:39.720 total of three times. He had one slant and he 0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:43.080 had two digs, and the rest of it is just goes, 0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:45.800 crossers and hitches right Like it's just that's his route, 0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:48.520 true right now, Whereas I feel like with Javon Baker, 0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:51.359 there's a more complete projection of what routes he can 0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:55.000 run in terms of the full tree of X routes, 0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:57.840 you know, like I mentioned first, second, first, second, third 0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:00.399 level routes that you see on film. The other thing 0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:03.879 I like a lot about Javon Baker is that not 0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:05.639 necessarily I think it's saying if it fails and the 0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:07.840 outside is probably put the wrong way to put it. 0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:11.359 But he can also be a big slot. I think 0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:14.240 you know, he showed some ability certainly to run the 0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:17.159 seam like that. That's there and if you are a 0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:19.480 little bit concerned about the four five four, and it 0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:22.320 doesn't necessarily translate on the outside in terms of the speed, 0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:25.080 if you get him matched up against linebackers in safeties, 0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:26.919 he's fast all of a sudden, yeah, right, So if 0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:29.000 you get him inside the formation, which he did I 0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:31.000 think twenty seven percent of the time last year, is 0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:33.320 mainly an outside guy, but if you get him matched 0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:35.720 up on the inside of the formation, now you have 0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:39.479 seam runs, a nice zone sits where he's a big target. 0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:41.440 He's got a nice catch radius to just be QB 0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:43.680 friendly and sit in the middle of his zone, and 0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:48.080 you have some of that big slot potential as well. 0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:50.400 So I think that he can move inside and outside 0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:52.840 a little bit more than I thought when I originally 0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:55.239 watched him before the draft, he really felt like an 0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:58.840 outside guy. But I mentioned Romeo Dobs, the other guy 0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:01.200 that I think fits a lot, and I happened to 0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:04.200 go to the same school as Gabe Davis. Gabe Davis 0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:07.040 is also pretty good fake. Gaby is a little bit bigger. 0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:12.120 You know, he's got about ten pounds on Baker, but 0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:15.280 they both ran four or five fours. They're both like 0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:18.360 six to one and change, and they're both these boomer 0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:21.080 bust players. Gabe Davis is one of one of those 0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:24.400 players where seventy five percent of his production comes in 0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:27.560 four games every single year. Right, So those two guys 0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:30.480 might not sound to Patriots fans like, oh, we just 0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:33.680 got Tara Loans. I get it. But the thing is 0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:37.680 is that, like you mentioned, earlier. If Jalen Polk is 0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:42.000 souped up Jakobe Myers and Javon Baker is Gabe Davis, Yeah, 0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:44.400 and then they can go out next offseason and get 0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:47.640 that true number one guy. Now you're building something. 0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:49.320 That's what it feels like the plan is. So it's 0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:52.000 like you tweeted this morning, you're getting ready to debate 0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:53.840 Will Campbell, and who's the tackle from Texas? 0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:54.520 Kelvin Banks. 0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:56.960 Yeah, it's one from Texas, right, yeah, yeah, And I 0:29:57.120 --> 0:29:59.120 just replied Luther Burton, And I mean I'm just you know, 0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:02.360 having fun, you know, poking fun because it's just another name. 0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:04.560 I think you've also told me about Luther Burden for 0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:05.760 like two years. 0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:06.560 Just like I did, say if you're worthy, and how 0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:09.960 did you endup feeling about him? And so I replied 0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:11.480 to your tweet, I said, Luther burn just kind of 0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:13.360 having fun, like these are the names, those are the 0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:15.720 three big names. And everybody started replying, no, they need 0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:17.440 a tackle, No, they need a tackle, like they're not 0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:19.080 going to take receivering Like I don't know that I 0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:20.760 probably will want them to take a tackle at this 0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:23.440 time next year, but or you know, a week ago, 0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:26.960 this time next year. Yeah, but I at the same time, 0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:29.440 they just kind of seemed to be good doing left 0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:32.000 tackle by committee, and it does feel like there's a 0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:33.680 long term plan here at receiver, and like if you 0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:36.280 add a Luther Burden to this group, or you go 0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:39.440 out you make a trade for Brandon Ayuk or one 0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:41.440 of these top receivers that's going to be available, you 0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:44.400 go out and get a DK Metcalf, now suddenly you're 0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:47.240 really cooking. So I don't think either of these guys 0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:51.880 was brought in to be the overwhelming wide receiver problems 0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:54.520 solver in New England. I think they were brought into 0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:57.000 play next to that guy. And that guy is still 0:30:57.120 --> 0:31:00.520 TBD because when you took the quarterback third or which 0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:04.000 was the right thing to do unless they were going 0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:05.560 to trade back up. And I don't even know if 0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:08.120 likely get was that guy. I think he's maybe that 0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:10.600 one B, maybe he's that T Higgins. I don't think 0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:13.000 he was ever that one A. There were three, maybe 0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:15.800 four to one a's in this draft. Once you took 0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:19.120 the quarterback, you weren't getting that guy this year in 0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:21.160 the draft. And that's okay. They weren't gonna fill every 0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:23.920 ed in this draft. We had talked about that leading up. 0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:26.240 So I think the plan now is to figure out, 0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:29.800 you know, next year, who is being added to this group. Yeah. 0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:32.840 So I think with Baker there's probably a little bit 0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:37.680 more ceiling there in terms of he if he hits 0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:39.880 his ceiling, I've been trying, you know, Gabe Davis and 0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:42.320 Romeo Dobs or comp said. I feel like that's who 0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:44.920 he's gonna be in the league most likely if it 0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:47.640 works out. But I'm trying, you know, ceiling comps I 0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:49.680 think are a little bit more different, all right, difficult. 0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:52.200 Maybe at George Pickens is a little bit better than 0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:55.000 those two guys. Yeah, maybe we put him in that category. 0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:55.760 It's not bad. 0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:58.640 I don't realize. Do you think Pickens the number one? 0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:00.840 I think he's a one B. 0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:03.600 He's not consistent enough to be one. That's the big thing. 0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:05.520 If he was consistent, he would be but he's not. 0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:08.680 Yeah. See, I think nowadays in the league, the receiver 0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:11.320 position is so valuable and is so such a sought 0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:14.800 after commodity that there's there's it's almost like in baseball 0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:16.440 where there's aces and there's number one. 0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:18.240 Okay, you know, I love doing that at corner we 0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:20.440 can do that at receiver. Pickens is well, he is 0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:22.280 by default the number one, he's the best receiver. 0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:24.240 He's not nay, he's a number one starter. 0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:25.120 Yeah, he's not nay. 0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:28.880 Right, So you know guys that That's how I would 0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:31.080 break down this draft. I think you know you had 0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:34.800 guys like the Big three, obviously Harrison neighbors of dunes 0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:35.920 or aces. 0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:39.400 Right, Maybe Brian Thomas is like fringy. 0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:41.360 Maybe he's an ACE, Maybe he's kind of a tweeter 0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:43.680 in between those two things. And then you had a 0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:46.840 couple of guys that were number one starters, Adie Mitchell, 0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:52.160 Xavier Lagette. I would say maybe Keon come. 0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:55.320 The difference. The difference here is to use this analogy 0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:57.560 because he's it for corners. Every team has a number 0:32:57.600 --> 0:32:59.800 one by default. Yeah, and it's do you feel good 0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:03.160 this guy being your best wide receiver? An ACE? You 0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:04.640 can have more than one A like I would say 0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:07.120 the Bengals have more than one ACE. Yeah, the Dolphins 0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:09.000 have more than one ACE. You put Jalen Waddle on 0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:11.240 most teams? Is the number one? Eagles? Eagles is the 0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:13.880 best example. Yeah, you put DeVante Smith on most teams? 0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:15.760 Is the best receiver? You feel great about that, you 0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:18.720 feel fantastic about that, but he's not their number one 0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:19.880 receiver technical. 0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:21.680 Right, I feel like the league is just that way. 0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:24.000 The other The last thing I'll say about Javon Baker 0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:26.640 and we'll talk about the lineman. H I texted you 0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:30.160 this yesterday, my confidence Javon Baker, and you just said 0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:33.120 the j's which makes it even better is Jalen Brown, 0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:35.880 Because Jalen Brown will hit the three with the hand 0:33:35.880 --> 0:33:38.120 in his face from like thirty feet out, and then 0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:40.520 he'll brick a wide open corner three and you're like, 0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:43.640 what is going on? Or he'll have this like terrible turnover, 0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:46.280 and then the next play he'll dunk on somebody you know, 0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:49.560 And that's that's Jayvon Baker to me. Jayvon Baker makes 0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:51.960 the easy the hard stuff look easy and the easy 0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:54.440 stuff look hard, right, And so if you can get 0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:57.600 him to it's not that different than Drake may like. 0:33:57.640 --> 0:33:59.840 If you can get these two guys to just be 0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:05.160 insistent and always bring out the highlights and not the 0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:07.960 low lights, then they're gonna be great, great players in 0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:09.719 the league most likely. 0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:09.920 Though. 0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:11.960 This is why you know, I think Gave Davis works 0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:14.560 so well for Baker. Most likely he's just gonna be 0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:16.839 inconsistent for the rest of his life, Like that's just 0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:19.600 the type of guy that's gonna be. But that still 0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:22.759 could be that there are games where Javon Baker has 0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:24.799 like one hundred and fifty yards and two touchdowns like 0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:27.719 that that still exists within his game. It's just that 0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:30.200 the next week he's probably gonna be invisible. So that's 0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:32.400 that's what you're gonna have to live with. But I 0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:36.040 really liked watching him. He's a really explosive player. I 0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:38.520 think he runs plays a lot faster. Both these guys 0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:40.640 play a lot faster than their forty times. I wouldn't 0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:42.920 get too caught up in forty times with either one 0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:46.400 of these players. I think they play football in pads 0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:49.960 between the lines a lot faster because they're so damned competitive. 0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:52.680 Both guys are dogs like. Both guys are super competitive, 0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:58.920 super you know, they're in game athletes, like they're guys 0:34:58.920 --> 0:34:59.960 when the lights around. 0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:03.000 The They drafted good. They're good at football. 0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:05.319 They're not good at underwear Olympics. As much as I 0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:07.440 love the combine, that's just not going to be their 0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:09.840 thing necessarily. But you look at some of the in 0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:11.960 game track and data. Some of the stuff from the 0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:14.880 Senior Bowl with Javon Baker is really positive too. He 0:35:14.920 --> 0:35:18.640 had the second fastest time at the Senior Bowl during 0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:21.640 Senior Bowl practices, only behind tes Walker. But then you 0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:23.759 look at their discrepancy and forty and you're like, how 0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:24.360 did that happen? 0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:24.640 Right? 0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:27.040 Like, he almost touched twenty one miles an hour at 0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:31.280 the Senior Bowl running routes, which is an impressive speed obviously, 0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:34.440 So it's a I'm optimistic about these two guys, but 0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:36.399 I also won't think we did a good job of 0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:40.200 keeping it in context of I don't think that either 0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:41.919 one of these guys is a true number one down 0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:46.200 the road, but they're really good complimentary players that once 0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:48.160 they do get that number one, now they really have 0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:51.200 an offense. Like now they really have a big time group. 0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:53.560 You mentioned i Uke. I know it's a pipe dream, 0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:58.240 but somebody like you coming in here now, the Patriots really, 0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:02.359 on paper have a very very good offense in terms 0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:04.680 of personnel. Let's see if it all comes together. 0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:06.480 Hang on, I have the list of guys who will 0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:08.400 be like the Brinn and ayukx next year. Let me 0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:15.520 pull this up real quick. It is T Higgins, assuming 0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:20.759 he doesn't get extended off the franchise. DK Metcalf, Terry McLaurin, 0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:25.840 DJ Moore, Jalen Wattle, Garrett Wilson all right, and Davonta 0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:27.879 Smith's gott an extension since I rot, Yeah, so those 0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:32.799 are they're probably not getting Garrett Wilson, Jalen Wattle, DJ Moore, 0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:35.600 Terry McLaurin, DK Metcalf. I take any of those guys. 0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:37.399 I love DK Metca. I'd be a ton of fun 0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:39.839 and he would be ideal with Drake May. 0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:42.799 Yeah, yeah, that would be That would be a match 0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:46.680 made in heaven those two. Yeah, yeah, I I I'm 0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:50.279 optimistic about it. I think it. It's both guys have 0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:53.840 reasons to like their games and be excited about their games, 0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:57.440 even if I think a lot of people and myself included, 0:36:57.480 --> 0:36:59.320 sometimes get caught up in the four to three guys 0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:01.799 and just want the the pure speed guys, the pure 0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:05.000 track guys. We've been down that road before with Taekwon Thornton. 0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:07.360 We've been down the other road before with like the 0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:09.520 Size Speed guy and Nikhil Harry. And I know people 0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:12.440 when I say size speed, they're like speed with Nikhil 0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:14.879 Harry was fast for his size. You know, he had 0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:19.520 a very very good weight adjusted forty time. But we 0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:21.839 been down the road with those athletes, like those guys 0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:24.959 that are just these raw athletes, and it hasn't worked out. 0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:27.000 When I look at Baker and Polk, I look at 0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:28.759 two football players, I look at two guys that know 0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:30.319 how to run routes. I know how to get open, 0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:32.399 they know how to catch the ball, that know how 0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:34.600 to create with the ball in their hands in Baker's 0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:37.719 case a little bit. So I'm optimistic about both those 0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:40.719 guys hitting there what I project to be. You know, 0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:45.120 they're comfortable NFL projections, you know, Gabe Davis, Jacoby Meyers 0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:46.799 maybe a little bit more juice like. I think that 0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:50.839 those are both realistic. Going to the offensive line, You're right, 0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:52.520 it is easier to talk about this draft in. 0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:55.040 Position groups at least through here, and then we can 0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:56.880 do the late day three guys Like to me, you 0:37:56.880 --> 0:38:01.200 have Drake May, you have the top one fifth receivers. Yep, 0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:04.400 you have the top one fifty lineman, and then you 0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:07.160 do dial Joe Milton en Belt. 0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:09.400 Then everybody else. Yeah, don't sleep on Jeen. 0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:11.440 Bell though, I we're gonna get to Jeeene Bell. I'm 0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:15.040 not don't sleep. Don't sleep He's I'll just say, like, 0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:17.560 for where they got obviously, Drake makes my favorite pick. 0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:19.759 He's the best player, but like all things considered, where 0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:21.279 they got him and all that, Jahem Belt might be 0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:22.160 the best pick of their draft. 0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:25.080 Yeah, I think Javon Baker is probably the best value 0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:28.040 they got in the draft, probably a guy that is 0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:31.080 a top one hundred talent in most receiver drafts. But 0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:34.000 there's so much talent in this receiver draft that him, 0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:36.719 Troy Franklin, like those guys are in my mind top 0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:40.399 seventy five picks and other drafts. But unfortunately for them, 0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:43.760 but better for the Patriots. Uh, there's so much talent. 0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:47.080 And I remember when I did my Best Available for 0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:49.080 Day three and I was going through some of the guys. Ever, 0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:51.600 I was shocked by how much receiver talent was still 0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:53.120 out there. And we knew this was gonna happen, I 0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:56.040 was still surprised by it. You know, you have Troy Franklin, 0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:59.600 Ted Walker, Javon Baker available for you at the top 0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:02.759 of the fourth round. That does not happen any other year. 0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:03.520 So I'm supposed to have. 0:39:03.800 --> 0:39:09.439 Yeah, offensive line. I totally understand the concerns with Cane 0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:13.560 Wallace flipping sides. I think they're legitimate. The comparison I 0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:16.720 always someone told me I think it was carn Brisillo. 0:39:17.080 --> 0:39:19.879 I don't think it was a scar. I remember one 0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:22.640 of the offensive line coaches that's been through here told 0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:26.760 me to take a pen. You're right he or lefty, righty, righty? 0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:29.000 Write me something with your left hand. 0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:32.040 No, this isn't there's I talked to a former college 0:39:32.080 --> 0:39:33.600 offensive line coach. I know what you're saying. It's not 0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:35.080 as simple as right with your right hand, right with 0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:39.280 your left. It's you know, right. You move the paper 0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:41.120 based on where you are. So if you're used to 0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:43.560 playing right tackle, so now it's in front of you. 0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:46.280 Now you go to right guard. Now it's over here. 0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:49.000 Now you go to center. Now it's over here. Now 0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:51.040 you're left guard. Now you're writing with your off hand 0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:53.040 all the way over here. Yeah, and now it left tackle. 0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:54.520 You got to write with your off hand all the 0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:56.239 way over here. I just you know, tip some my 0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:58.279 fingers on the pen. Yeah, have to write my name. 0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:02.040 That is the toughest move on the offensive. Right guard 0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:04.840 to right tackle and vice versa is easier. Yeah, Like 0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:07.719 it's easier to move between. Just stay on the same 0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:09.720 side and move inside to outside. 0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:13.600 Everything right, Your drive foot's different. You know, your inside 0:40:13.600 --> 0:40:18.800 foot's different, your plan foot's different. Your hands are now flipped. Yes, 0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:22.279 it's all different. Now can he do it? 0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:23.160 Yeah? 0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:25.640 Any like yes, like in theory, he can do it. 0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:27.400 I think the things that you look at. 0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:31.319 It's a project, though. I don't think people realize how 0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:34.560 hard being a true swing tackle is. Like, people didn't 0:40:34.560 --> 0:40:37.319 appreciate Ladry and Waddle enough when he's here. They spent like, 0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:39.120 let's be honest, they spent two or three years and 0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:41.400 nobody noticed because there were bigger things going on. They 0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:44.600 spent two or three years really missing Ladrian Waddle and 0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:49.239 of all people, so they signed this the uh like 0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:52.840 the UDFA tackle. Zerry Henry has over eight hundred snaps 0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:55.240 that left tackle and right tackle in his career. That's 0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:58.319 a swing tackle. A guy that has played exclusively right 0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:01.160 tackle for four years, but you think he's athletic enough 0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:03.600 to make the move isn't a swing tackle. He's a 0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:07.000 right tackle. You're gonna try to play it left. That's different. 0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:09.560 Yeah, there were some guys like that in this draft though, 0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:10.320 to be fair. 0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:11.440 Like true swing tackles. 0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:14.919 No guys that like a Marius Mams, Tyler Geyon. Yeah, 0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:17.319 those guys played right tackle in college that everybody thinks 0:41:17.320 --> 0:41:18.520 are athletic enough to flip. 0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:21.640 Giten's unique because he was the right tackle in a 0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:26.719 lefty quarterback offense. So he like a blind side experience. Yeah, 0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:28.640 Like those guys are the It's still not easy for 0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:30.560 them because you still got to move the sides. Yeah, 0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:33.479 but there's certain things you do as a blind side 0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:35.440 protector on either side that you don't do on the 0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:38.600 strong side. Certain things are gonna have to deal with that, 0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:41.960 just you know, at least you have that kind of experience. Yeah. 0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:45.000 So when I watched Wallace, and I should mention too 0:41:45.040 --> 0:41:47.640 that down at the Shrine Bowl, he did take some 0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:50.279 passets on the left side. They flip, They flip them all, 0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:52.000 like that's what they do. You know, Senior Bowl, same 0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:55.040 thing guy in Uh. You know, those guys all played 0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:56.440 some snaps on the left. 0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:59.280 Show at right tackle at the combine, lucky for the Chargers. 0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:04.960 Yeah. So I think Wallace when you watch him, he's 0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:07.560 a twitchy mover. He's very twitchy out of his stance, 0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:11.280 he can really get out and into his landmark initially. 0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:15.640 The issues that I think present themselves, especially against speed, 0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:20.320 is more on like kicks two, three, four right, it's 0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:21.840 not right out of his stance and right out of 0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:24.399 his stands. He's usually pretty good as he kicks out 0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:27.240 of his stance and slides with his feet, he tends 0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:29.800 to his pads, tend to elevate, and then if he 0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:33.719 feels pressure, you know, speed, especially coming off the edge. 0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:37.080 He's what's called an early hip opener. So instead of 0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:40.720 sliding his feet like a play like somebody guarding somebody 0:42:40.760 --> 0:42:43.200 in basketball and trying to stay in front of him 0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:46.960 that way, he'll just turn and start to run right, 0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:49.879 turn his hips and open his hips open and then 0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:52.480 almost like get into like a gallop. The issue with 0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:55.759 what happens when that happened, when players do that, is 0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:59.080 that they leave themselves very vulnerable to inside counters. So 0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:02.480 you get up up the field like that well schooled 0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:04.800 rushers like in the league, they're gonna inside spin you 0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:06.839 all day long. They're just gonna say, all right, you're 0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:09.920 gonna you're gonna overcompensate and try to jump out to 0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:13.440 that that landmark out there, I'm just gonna spin inside 0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:16.480 or I'm just gonna arm over, you know, swim inside, right, 0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:21.359 So you have to his big concern, I would say 0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:25.120 right now, is that the fact that his lateral movement 0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:30.480 later in his past set causes a short corner, so 0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:34.480 he gets into this early hip opening sick sequencing. Now 0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:39.160 that being said, he's got really good hands, He's got 0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:41.560 good length, you know, thirty four inch arms, and he 0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:43.680 knows how to use him. You know, he plays long 0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:47.080 and he has really heavy hands, like he can stun guys, 0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:49.480 he can slow guys down. And I do think that 0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:53.000 his initial movements out of his stance are are twitchy, 0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:56.799 are there's a good burst there, So I think that 0:43:56.840 --> 0:43:59.719 there's something to work with him there. I would just 0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:03.600 say that if I was switching him over to left tackle, 0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:07.240 I would be a little bit concerned about really true 0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:10.279 speed guys. You know, Miami just drafted Chop Robinson like 0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:13.200 him coming off the edge at him against Miami in 0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:15.479 a few months like that would concern me a little 0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:20.080 bit about him at left tackle. But in general, great anchor, 0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:23.799 great hand strength, great length, knows how to use it 0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:27.400 pretty good. Initially out of his stance in this pass set. 0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:30.920 And when you have those combinations, like you should be 0:44:31.000 --> 0:44:33.960 able to translate that to the league. And let's just 0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:36.560 hope that you know, Drake may is as good against 0:44:36.560 --> 0:44:37.440 pressure as I think he is. 0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:41.279 Yeah, it goes back to I just this seems to 0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:43.680 be their plan. It's been there playing the last few 0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:49.520 years that they're not They haven't added a real consistent 0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:51.920 left tackle, Like I think Trent is a good player. 0:44:51.960 --> 0:44:54.120 Trent Brown's a good player, but he was kind of 0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:56.560 a wild card in his own right. And then on 0:44:56.600 --> 0:45:00.120 top of that, you've brought in Calvin Anderson, who who 0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:02.640 was incredibly inexperienced and was mostly a right tackle in 0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:05.319 the NFL. Or he is a true swing tackle. You 0:45:05.400 --> 0:45:08.840 brought in Riley Reef, who was a right tackle and older. 0:45:09.680 --> 0:45:13.080 You tried you know, guards out, they tried City So 0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:16.120 who was a college guard, another position mover, and now 0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:18.440 this year there are two top options for left tackle. 0:45:18.440 --> 0:45:21.160 It seems like our guy that hasn't played left tackle 0:45:21.200 --> 0:45:23.400 since college has only played right tackle in the NFL 0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:25.600 in six seasons, and a guy who was a right 0:45:25.600 --> 0:45:28.080 tackle in college. Yeah, and at a certain So that's 0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:29.719 my thing with Kayden wallasback if he had been like 0:45:29.719 --> 0:45:34.359 their second offensive lineman. Great, you got a guy that's experienced, 0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:37.200 good right tackle, probably gonna give you some snaps at 0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:43.440 guard as well, like solid second lineman pick. But for 0:45:43.480 --> 0:45:45.760 a team that has needed a left tackle for so long, 0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:48.360 to walk away from this without a true left tackle, 0:45:48.920 --> 0:45:51.359 I can't shape. That's my biggest second guess in the draft. 0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:55.080 It's not necessarily Wallace himself, it's how do you not 0:45:55.239 --> 0:45:59.000 come away? They attacked a wide receiver position so aggressively, 0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:01.440 which you can he already was the third biggest of 0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:03.399 the three needs, simply because at least they had depth 0:46:03.440 --> 0:46:05.640 at wide receiver Samy, you will about the right, like, 0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:07.239 there's guys in there that can play. They didn't have 0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:08.480 the top of the depth drier, but there's guys in 0:46:08.600 --> 0:46:11.320 that can play. So to attack the wide receiver position 0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:13.480 the way they did and then just kind of say 0:46:13.480 --> 0:46:16.000 it left tackle, I will figure it out. It feels 0:46:16.000 --> 0:46:17.520 like they've been trying to figure it out at left 0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:20.080 tackle without an obvious answer for three or four years now, 0:46:20.440 --> 0:46:23.279 and it hasn't worked. And we're maybe Caane Wallace works out. 0:46:23.320 --> 0:46:26.239 Great if he does, awesome, It's a brilliant pick, but 0:46:26.320 --> 0:46:28.680 that's a that's hardly a guarantee when you have a 0:46:28.680 --> 0:46:29.839 guy moving sides like that. 0:46:30.360 --> 0:46:32.760 I it's my biggest second guess of the draft because 0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:36.200 your shows are big on this. You know, Feulger is 0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:38.359 big on this. Did they misread the board? 0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:41.440 So that's the one where I'm fine with them letting 0:46:41.440 --> 0:46:43.399 Polk follow to them at thirty seven. That one makes 0:46:43.400 --> 0:46:47.000 sense to me. I can understand that. Yeah, they once 0:46:47.040 --> 0:46:50.279 Patrick Paul went fifty fifth, Yeah, that needed to be. 0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:52.279 That needed to set the alarm bells off, and all right, 0:46:52.320 --> 0:46:54.640 we need it. This is about to because most people 0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:56.919 thought Paul is a third round pick. Once that guy 0:46:56.960 --> 0:47:00.520 goes there, you need to recognize, Oh, everybody's gonna panic here. Tackle. 0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:03.080 We need to tackle more than most of these teams. 0:47:03.080 --> 0:47:04.399 We need to get up there and get a guy. 0:47:04.440 --> 0:47:06.799 Whether that's And I know I sound like a little 0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:08.600 bit of a hypocrite saying Blake Fisher because I just 0:47:08.600 --> 0:47:10.800 went on the whole thing about you know, true swing tackles. 0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:13.440 Fisher at least like played left tackle in college. Yeah, 0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:15.480 and it seemed like they really like as a higher. 0:47:15.280 --> 0:47:18.359 Rated prospect, not that the consensus really matters all that much, 0:47:18.440 --> 0:47:19.640 but he's a higher rated process. 0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:21.799 Well, so the point being, like, I can see why 0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:25.160 they maybe wouldn't have been interested in Kingsley. Yeah, I'm 0:47:25.160 --> 0:47:27.680 not saying it's right. I think they were looking for older, 0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:32.120 more experienced prospects, guys without the injury history. But Blake 0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:34.560 Fisher checked all the boxes of the guys they took, 0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:38.000 but at least he had some left tackle experience. 0:47:38.080 --> 0:47:41.640 Yeah, yeah, it definitely seems you know. Another positive for 0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:45.239 Cadden Wallace forty career starts at Penn State is a lot. 0:47:45.640 --> 0:47:48.600 So I like Kden Wallace's I mocked him to the Patriots, like, 0:47:48.640 --> 0:47:51.640 I like his makeup as a prospect, Yeah in a bubble, 0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:54.960 I don't like him as your potential future left tackle. Yeah, 0:47:55.040 --> 0:47:56.480 I hear. I think that's a step too far. 0:47:56.600 --> 0:48:00.200 So the the one thing I will say, though, this 0:48:00.239 --> 0:48:02.960 isn't to carry the water and defend them, but I 0:48:03.040 --> 0:48:06.120 think the one thing I will say is that based 0:48:06.120 --> 0:48:10.040 off of their actions, I do feel like they have 0:48:10.239 --> 0:48:12.799 so much confidence. And maybe it's not right to have 0:48:12.840 --> 0:48:15.680 this much confidence, but I think they have so much 0:48:15.719 --> 0:48:22.479 confidence in AVP scheming around tackle issues, and Scott Peter 0:48:22.600 --> 0:48:23.640 is coaching up tackles. 0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:25.680 They this a lot of this draft is they put 0:48:25.760 --> 0:48:27.560 on the coaching self. Yeah, it's a lot of. 0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:32.240 And I think that their thought process specifically with AVP 0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:37.759 is that they are going to be so play action, bootleg, 0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:40.800 move the pocket. Now they have this athletic quarterback, and 0:48:40.880 --> 0:48:43.120 Jacoby can do the same thing. Like if it's Jacoby Brissett, 0:48:43.200 --> 0:48:45.440 he can also move around. You know, they have these 0:48:45.520 --> 0:48:48.360 quarterbacks that can move around, they can throw off platform, 0:48:48.400 --> 0:48:51.400 they can throw outside the pocket, and they have they 0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:56.440 don't necessarily need to expose their left tackle to thirty 0:48:56.520 --> 0:48:59.320 one on ones on an island like every single game. 0:48:59.560 --> 0:49:02.240 It's probably they are going to probably try to shrink 0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:05.439 the one on one exposures for their tackles in pass 0:49:05.480 --> 0:49:09.160 pro as much as they possibly can by staying ahead 0:49:09.160 --> 0:49:12.240 of the chains, by being really good on overdown early 0:49:12.280 --> 0:49:16.760 downs with explosives and not necessarily getting into a situation 0:49:16.840 --> 0:49:19.680 where you're dropping back and traditionally dropping back to past 0:49:19.680 --> 0:49:23.160 thirty five times a game. And maybe that that's the 0:49:23.160 --> 0:49:24.919 way that they look at it. And then I also think, 0:49:25.160 --> 0:49:27.160 you know, Scott Peters is one of those guys and 0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:29.440 we've seen some videos about him when they hired him 0:49:29.480 --> 0:49:32.840 and things like that. That is one of these technique 0:49:32.880 --> 0:49:36.239 gurus like he just he has a school with his 0:49:36.360 --> 0:49:40.319 father that's off to the side that coaches up prospects, 0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:43.080 you know, works with prospects in the offseason. Uh. He 0:49:43.160 --> 0:49:46.400 has a lot of that going on where he's like 0:49:46.440 --> 0:49:49.160 one of these private tutors as well. Yeah, and so 0:49:49.280 --> 0:49:50.880 I think they think that they they're going to be 0:49:50.920 --> 0:49:52.799 able to coach these guys up and coach around it. 0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:55.280 And we've talked about it a lot in the past. 0:49:55.800 --> 0:50:00.160 You can coach around one week link on the offensive line. 0:50:00.680 --> 0:50:03.240 I think that they look at this and they say, 0:50:03.400 --> 0:50:07.160 if left tackles a weak link, we will just try to, 0:50:07.360 --> 0:50:09.640 you know, do things to make it easier for that guy, 0:50:09.760 --> 0:50:12.920 you know, whatever the case may be. And I can 0:50:13.000 --> 0:50:14.920 see how they feel like they could get that they 0:50:14.960 --> 0:50:17.880 could get away with it. I do so, but that. 0:50:18.200 --> 0:50:20.120 Kind of hinges on what happens at left guard, which 0:50:20.120 --> 0:50:21.320 brings us to Laydon Robinson. 0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:26.080 Yeah, so Leyden Robinson to me was the classic case 0:50:26.400 --> 0:50:31.200 of they got jumped for Troy Franklin by Denver and 0:50:31.239 --> 0:50:32.799 we're just gonna turn in the car with our best 0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:36.120 available player and they had the highest grade on a 0:50:36.120 --> 0:50:39.080 guy like Leyden Robinson, And as much as I hated it, 0:50:39.120 --> 0:50:41.080 and I hated it, when they made the pick, I 0:50:41.200 --> 0:50:44.040 was just like, not another guard. You've got to be kidding, 0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:46.800 especially there right, like, because it's just another guard in 0:50:46.840 --> 0:50:48.920 the fourth round, just like they drafted sixteen of them 0:50:48.960 --> 0:50:52.440 last year. I couldn't believe it. I was just they really. 0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:54.880 Day three was off to an awful start for me, 0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:58.560 and Javon Baker rescued the day like, if they didn't 0:50:58.560 --> 0:51:00.160 make the Javon Bak it felt like a lot like 0:51:00.239 --> 0:51:02.160 last year with Pop Douglas, Like if you didn't make 0:51:02.200 --> 0:51:04.359 that pick, I would have been like, oh god, like 0:51:04.400 --> 0:51:07.480 this has just not been a good day. Leyden Robinson, 0:51:07.600 --> 0:51:09.960 I think, was their highest graded player at the time. 0:51:10.360 --> 0:51:13.239 They didn't necessarily have a great grade on anybody that 0:51:13.320 --> 0:51:16.360 was at a position of need you know, another tackle, 0:51:16.600 --> 0:51:19.319 maybe double dip there or well. 0:51:19.360 --> 0:51:21.759 I also wonder some people thought coming into the draft 0:51:21.760 --> 0:51:24.040 that Leyden Robinson could play tackle just because of his length. 0:51:24.160 --> 0:51:26.440 So I wonder if they were going to see them 0:51:26.480 --> 0:51:27.120 try him attack. 0:51:27.239 --> 0:51:31.520 Oh god, I think that his feet and his range 0:51:32.400 --> 0:51:33.400 is in a phone booth. 0:51:33.719 --> 0:51:34.960 I'm not saying it's gonna work. 0:51:35.040 --> 0:51:37.440 But yeah, I don't think he's got tackle feed at all. 0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:39.719 They're trying. They try everybody to tackle. It's kind of 0:51:39.719 --> 0:51:40.279 what they do now. 0:51:40.440 --> 0:51:44.640 Oh god. I think with Leyden Robinson it's one of 0:51:44.640 --> 0:51:46.839 those old adages and it's similar to what we're gonna 0:51:46.840 --> 0:51:48.840 talk about with Joe Milton when we get to the quarterback. 0:51:50.080 --> 0:51:52.480 You don't go broke taking offensive lineman. 0:51:52.680 --> 0:51:53.640 Yeah, you just don't. 0:51:54.000 --> 0:51:57.680 If you have beefing up the trenches if all else fails, 0:51:57.719 --> 0:51:59.600 if you don't have a great grade on a skill player, 0:51:59.600 --> 0:52:02.000 you don't have a great grade on a dB or 0:52:02.040 --> 0:52:04.920 something like that, you could you will never go wrong 0:52:04.960 --> 0:52:07.960 with taking linemen on either side of the ball if 0:52:07.960 --> 0:52:09.640 you have a If you really are convicted by a 0:52:09.680 --> 0:52:11.839 guy and you feel like Leyden Robinson has a starter 0:52:11.920 --> 0:52:14.000 grade for us and we're gonna this is gonna work 0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:17.800 out long term. You never go broke taking trenches. 0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:19.960 You just don't. See. That's just what killed it's like. 0:52:20.200 --> 0:52:22.080 But I look at it in SO sixty eight and 0:52:22.120 --> 0:52:24.439 one oh three, right, Ken Wallace and Lane Robinson? Yeah, 0:52:24.480 --> 0:52:28.240 could those have become a pick in the fifties? 0:52:28.560 --> 0:52:28.759 Right? 0:52:28.920 --> 0:52:32.280 And it's a fair point right, you wonder the potential 0:52:32.360 --> 0:52:32.880 left tackle. 0:52:33.120 --> 0:52:37.160 Yeah, you wonder if Again, I think Troy Franklin was 0:52:37.200 --> 0:52:39.920 their guy in the top of the fourth round, and 0:52:39.960 --> 0:52:42.080 so they were holding out hope they were gonna get 0:52:42.120 --> 0:52:45.759 Troy Franklin there. If you had told them in hindsight, hey, 0:52:45.960 --> 0:52:47.680 Troy Franklin's not going to be there for you at 0:52:47.680 --> 0:52:50.120 one o three, right, then they probably do package the 0:52:50.120 --> 0:52:50.680 pick and try. 0:52:50.719 --> 0:52:53.080 Realistically, you should not have expected Troy Franklin be there 0:52:53.080 --> 0:52:53.680 at one o three. 0:52:53.760 --> 0:52:55.160 Yeah, it was a little bit of a dice roll 0:52:55.400 --> 0:52:58.239 and it didn't work out. So that's a second guest 0:52:58.280 --> 0:53:00.080 for sure. I agree with you. You could have packed of 0:53:00.120 --> 0:53:03.280 Joe's pick. I think that they probably would have preferred 0:53:03.280 --> 0:53:06.759 to just dump the pick altogether, yeah, and move back. Uh, 0:53:07.560 --> 0:53:11.000 after Troy Franklin went off the board, and they didn't 0:53:11.000 --> 0:53:13.240 really it's just a guess. They didn't have any suitors, 0:53:13.320 --> 0:53:14.359 so they just took the best player. 0:53:14.440 --> 0:53:16.360 I'd be surprised by that. But or maybe they just 0:53:16.360 --> 0:53:17.359 wanted too much for the pick. 0:53:17.560 --> 0:53:19.600 Yeah, but I do think that, you know, they didn't 0:53:19.600 --> 0:53:21.640 make any extra picks, and I do think they wanted 0:53:21.640 --> 0:53:23.920 more picks. I believe Elliot Wolf when he said that 0:53:23.960 --> 0:53:26.160 he would have preferred to add more picks. I just 0:53:26.160 --> 0:53:28.399 don't think that they necessarily had the trade to make 0:53:28.400 --> 0:53:31.440 it happen, and I do. I actually really did like 0:53:32.239 --> 0:53:35.000 the pick swap with the Chargers. Yeah, because of the 0:53:35.000 --> 0:53:37.640 way the draft dropped off after the top like one 0:53:37.680 --> 0:53:39.200 hundred and twenty five players. 0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:41.120 Or so, right, they didn't need one. Every time I 0:53:41.160 --> 0:53:43.120 was doing a mock draft, one thirty seven was just 0:53:43.120 --> 0:53:45.480 an annoying pick. It was just in the middle of nowhere, right, 0:53:45.600 --> 0:53:47.640 So I have no problem with them given that up. 0:53:47.680 --> 0:53:50.080 But again, could they've given that up to maybe move 0:53:50.160 --> 0:53:54.040 up from thirty four? Yeah, I just ate, Well, I 0:53:54.040 --> 0:53:54.680 guess they couldn't. 0:53:54.719 --> 0:53:57.560 They probably tried to move up from thirty four with it. Yeah, 0:53:57.560 --> 0:54:01.359 But I really like that pick swap trade. Yeah. It 0:54:01.440 --> 0:54:04.719 was because they moved up twenty seven spots into a 0:54:04.760 --> 0:54:07.120 spot where now you're you're getting a top one hundred 0:54:07.160 --> 0:54:10.160 player in Javon Baker with that pick. If you look 0:54:10.239 --> 0:54:14.399 back at it's gonna be Jalen Polk and Javon Baker, Yeah, 0:54:14.480 --> 0:54:16.600 versus Lad McConkey and some dude i'd never heard of 0:54:16.640 --> 0:54:17.640 that the trial was drafted. 0:54:17.760 --> 0:54:19.760 Yeah, the kid from Maryland. Yeah, he's a corner. 0:54:19.880 --> 0:54:22.280 Yeah, so I like the Patriots side of that trade. 0:54:22.480 --> 0:54:25.600 I do. Yeah, me too, So those are your alignment. 0:54:26.320 --> 0:54:28.719 I guess really quickly with Laden Robinson before we move on, 0:54:30.800 --> 0:54:32.280 what does this say about the guards that are already 0:54:32.280 --> 0:54:32.760 in the building? 0:54:32.960 --> 0:54:33.799 Nothing good? 0:54:34.000 --> 0:54:34.520 Nothing good? 0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:36.960 And in Cole Strange, we saw the pictures last week. 0:54:37.000 --> 0:54:38.640 Did he's still in the street clothes, so you wonder 0:54:38.680 --> 0:54:44.560 what his status is? And yeah, between him, you know what, 0:54:44.920 --> 0:54:46.680 I think City SO is probably safe because I think 0:54:46.680 --> 0:54:49.680 they you know, if Mike Winner is going to play tackle, 0:54:49.719 --> 0:54:51.879 but we could have a wide open competition at left 0:54:51.880 --> 0:54:52.839 guard come training camp. 0:54:52.880 --> 0:54:55.239 I would love that, you know me, I have no 0:54:55.440 --> 0:54:58.160 reason whatsoever to give that job to Cole Strange, Like 0:54:58.400 --> 0:55:02.160 there's no reason to have him sharpened into that spot, 0:55:02.520 --> 0:55:06.279 none whatsoever. I think that he is one hundred and 0:55:06.400 --> 0:55:08.479 ten percent competing for that job. 0:55:08.560 --> 0:55:09.960 Yeah, and it should be. 0:55:10.560 --> 0:55:13.080 I would actually think that City So is more entrenched 0:55:13.360 --> 0:55:16.520 at right guard at this point. Cole Straan, you know, 0:55:16.880 --> 0:55:19.200 hasn't been able to stay healthy, has been up and 0:55:19.239 --> 0:55:21.160 down when he has been out there, right I think 0:55:21.160 --> 0:55:23.799 he's competing for that spot. And if Laden Robinson's better 0:55:23.840 --> 0:55:27.040 than he is, then Laden Robinson should play. I think 0:55:27.120 --> 0:55:30.240 Mafi you saw a lot of the movement and range 0:55:30.280 --> 0:55:33.720 be a real concern last year. Is he a fine 0:55:34.120 --> 0:55:37.040 you know fourth lineman that you know is going to 0:55:37.080 --> 0:55:39.719 be an interior depth guy for his career. Yeah, I 0:55:39.719 --> 0:55:42.640 mean I think he is an NFL player, but he 0:55:42.719 --> 0:55:47.040 is not. He's not a starter. I just don't see starter. 0:55:47.560 --> 0:55:53.400 And so between City Soo, Leyden Robinson Cole Strange, you 0:55:53.480 --> 0:55:55.239 need to have two of those guys turn out to 0:55:55.280 --> 0:55:58.480 be decent players and then you're all right. I think 0:55:58.560 --> 0:56:02.200 Jake Andrews' center, I think so. I think that's where 0:56:02.200 --> 0:56:06.839 they're at. But yeah, that was definitely one takeaway Laden 0:56:06.920 --> 0:56:08.759 Robinson was, you know, what's it say about the guards 0:56:08.760 --> 0:56:10.760 that they have in the building. And the other takeaway 0:56:10.880 --> 0:56:14.319 is this is a this is a classic patriot guard, 0:56:14.440 --> 0:56:17.200 like this is a in a phone booth, people mover 0:56:17.880 --> 0:56:21.840 downhill guard. I was actually surprised by that this is 0:56:21.880 --> 0:56:24.359 not a zone blocking guard in my opinion. Now, maybe 0:56:24.360 --> 0:56:26.680 they feel differently and they're more than the title to 0:56:26.800 --> 0:56:29.919 tell me I'm an idiot, but I don't necessarily see 0:56:29.920 --> 0:56:31.960 the lateral movement or the explosion out of his stance 0:56:32.000 --> 0:56:34.360 to be like a great you know, combo reach blocker 0:56:34.400 --> 0:56:37.879 and outside zone. So maybe they're gonna be a little 0:56:37.920 --> 0:56:40.319 bit more gap heavy than we thought. Maybe that's looking 0:56:40.360 --> 0:56:42.160 way too much into a fourth round pick and they 0:56:42.160 --> 0:56:44.719 dis liked the player and they'll figure it all out later. 0:56:45.320 --> 0:56:47.960 But it will be interesting to see if it's on 0:56:48.120 --> 0:56:53.840 WHENU so andrews Robinson and then whatever happens at left tackle, 0:56:54.560 --> 0:56:59.960 that's not exactly like a dynamic athletic zone blocking line, 0:57:00.160 --> 0:57:02.719 you know, like it's not really filled with a bunch 0:57:02.800 --> 0:57:05.399 of guys that outside zone is a huge fit for. 0:57:05.560 --> 0:57:08.360 So maybe they become more of like a counter crack 0:57:08.480 --> 0:57:11.920 toss you know, that kind of downhill team or gap 0:57:11.960 --> 0:57:15.320 team which you can you know, run bootlegs and still 0:57:15.360 --> 0:57:17.520 move the pocket off of things like that. So be 0:57:17.560 --> 0:57:21.320 interesting to see how they they go about that, because 0:57:21.320 --> 0:57:23.640 it doesn't really seem like on paper that they have 0:57:23.720 --> 0:57:27.480 an outside zone offensive line. You know, you look at 0:57:27.640 --> 0:57:31.160 the Packers, you look at the Niners, you look at 0:57:31.160 --> 0:57:34.280 those teams in the in the Falcons like in the 0:57:34.320 --> 0:57:36.200 past when they've been in a really like a North 0:57:36.240 --> 0:57:39.560 Turner type offense. They draft these like you know, cold 0:57:39.600 --> 0:57:43.720 strangers like three hundred pounds, super athletic offensive linemen that 0:57:43.760 --> 0:57:47.160 are not big, that are not necessarily great anchors or 0:57:47.200 --> 0:57:50.200 people movers, but are very very good laterally. And the 0:57:50.240 --> 0:57:52.640 Patriot that's not Leyden Robinson. They did not draft a 0:57:52.680 --> 0:57:55.560 great lateral mover here, so it'd be interesting to see 0:57:55.960 --> 0:57:59.320 where they go. All right, here we go, keep going down. 0:58:00.080 --> 0:58:04.640 Dial came first, right, yep, before your boy Marcella's dial. 0:58:05.640 --> 0:58:07.320 I think that this is exactly you ready to spin 0:58:07.400 --> 0:58:08.800 the dial on defense seven? 0:58:09.520 --> 0:58:13.000 Well done. I think that this is exactly what we 0:58:13.080 --> 0:58:16.400 thought they might do in terms of targeting a day 0:58:16.400 --> 0:58:20.200 three corner. You target a day three corner with some traits, 0:58:20.480 --> 0:58:23.360 some speed, you know, mid four to four guy, some length, 0:58:23.680 --> 0:58:25.880 some good ball skills. Got his hands on a lot 0:58:25.880 --> 0:58:29.560 of passes, yeah, thirty one pass deflections I think it was, 0:58:29.640 --> 0:58:34.160 or pass breakups. This is a developmental outside corner that 0:58:34.840 --> 0:58:37.320 has might have some free safety flex to him as 0:58:37.360 --> 0:58:40.200 well if he fails at outside corner, and we can 0:58:40.240 --> 0:58:42.880 talk about why he might fail. I could see with 0:58:42.960 --> 0:58:45.360 his ball skills and the amount of you know, ballhowking 0:58:45.480 --> 0:58:47.760 instincts that he seems to have by getting his hand 0:58:47.840 --> 0:58:50.640 on thirty one passes in college. I could see him 0:58:50.640 --> 0:58:53.440 potentially moving to free safety at the league. And he's 0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:55.440 got that four four speed to have the range to 0:58:55.440 --> 0:58:57.320 do it as well, So I think there's some free 0:58:57.320 --> 0:58:59.880 safety ability there. But I think he starts a corner 0:59:00.000 --> 0:59:02.200 and they try to have him develop an outside corner. 0:59:02.800 --> 0:59:04.720 The big thing for me with him, very clean player, 0:59:04.800 --> 0:59:08.280 wasn't penalized a lot in college, and that's huge for them. 0:59:08.520 --> 0:59:10.800 That's huge. So you take out with that size, who 0:59:10.800 --> 0:59:12.920 has clean hands, who's not too grabby, and you coach 0:59:13.000 --> 0:59:15.560 him up from there. Maybe he does play some safety too. 0:59:15.600 --> 0:59:18.160 I think he's an ideal special teams fit, another high 0:59:18.280 --> 0:59:20.560 character guy. I think that was obviously a focus, so 0:59:21.400 --> 0:59:24.640 I was a little surprised, though I nothing against dial like, 0:59:24.680 --> 0:59:26.160 I think he's a good player. But if you were 0:59:26.200 --> 0:59:27.760 to ask me if they you know, if you're telling 0:59:27.760 --> 0:59:29.440 me they're only going to pick one player on defense, 0:59:29.440 --> 0:59:33.320 what position? I would have thought defensive line at rusher 0:59:33.320 --> 0:59:36.440 because all of those guys, well, now Barmore is resigned, 0:59:36.480 --> 0:59:39.960 but you know, so it's Barmore, Keon White, Sam Roberts, 0:59:40.320 --> 0:59:43.080 Anthony Jennings. That's it up front for guys signed beyond 0:59:43.120 --> 0:59:47.480 this year. Godshaw's an pending free agent. Equality is a 0:59:47.480 --> 0:59:52.520 pending free agent whom they signed what's his name from 0:59:52.560 --> 0:59:54.760 the Steelers, Armon wats Down a one year deal, like 0:59:55.080 --> 0:59:57.040 all those guys, even even Jeremiah Farm's on a one 0:59:57.120 --> 0:59:59.320 year contract. Like all these guys are pending free agents. 0:59:59.640 --> 1:00:01.000 So I thought they tried to get ahead of it 1:00:01.040 --> 1:00:02.600 and just add a body up front. I don't even 1:00:02.760 --> 1:00:05.480 they didn't even add a UDFA defensive lineman. They did 1:00:05.480 --> 1:00:10.200 add an edge rusher, Jet Bush, but that that was 1:00:10.240 --> 1:00:12.800 surprised and look good for them because they needed help 1:00:12.840 --> 1:00:15.280 in the secondary too. And if you're telling me, he 1:00:15.680 --> 1:00:17.680 just played corner, so it's a lot harder for me 1:00:17.720 --> 1:00:19.800 to project him as a free safety. But if you're 1:00:19.840 --> 1:00:21.880 telling me you think he can, he can play free safety. 1:00:21.920 --> 1:00:23.960 Like obviously, I was hammering the tables at for any 1:00:24.080 --> 1:00:26.120 great I was just a little surprised. I thought the 1:00:26.120 --> 1:00:27.760 defensive pick was gonna come up front. 1:00:27.600 --> 1:00:32.800 Me too, and I Gabe Davis, Gabe Murphy went undrafted, Yeah, 1:00:32.800 --> 1:00:34.880 which is crazy. I mean, I know he's undersize, but 1:00:35.080 --> 1:00:37.800 that was crazy to me. I thought that somebody liked that, 1:00:38.240 --> 1:00:41.840 you know, chest piece up front. Rush in line, rush outside. 1:00:41.960 --> 1:00:44.880 Maybe take josh U Jay's position in a year from now. 1:00:45.400 --> 1:00:47.240 But I think one of the things that Gerardmeo said 1:00:47.240 --> 1:00:49.560 after the draft was that some of these second and 1:00:49.560 --> 1:00:52.000 third year players, they want to give those guys opportunities. 1:00:52.040 --> 1:00:55.360 And so I look up front a guy like Keon White. 1:00:55.520 --> 1:00:58.520 You know, I don't think Kean White. I never have 1:00:58.680 --> 1:01:01.240 loved Keon White in a two point stands up on 1:01:01.320 --> 1:01:02.960 his feet. I think he's too clunky for that. I 1:01:02.960 --> 1:01:05.800 think he's too heavy for But maybe Kean White comes 1:01:05.840 --> 1:01:08.200 in a little bit slimmer, comes in a little bit faster, 1:01:08.560 --> 1:01:11.640 more explosive, and he does play up up, you know, 1:01:11.840 --> 1:01:12.560 up on his feet. 1:01:12.800 --> 1:01:13.000 Yeah. 1:01:13.600 --> 1:01:16.120 I think that they were maybe a little cognizanto that 1:01:16.120 --> 1:01:19.080 that they didn't necessarily want to bury some of these 1:01:19.120 --> 1:01:22.280 guys from last year's draft or two drafts ago, or 1:01:22.280 --> 1:01:25.120 like a guy like you know, Alex Austin, you know, 1:01:25.200 --> 1:01:28.000 on the outside, right, Yeah, I think that they wanted 1:01:28.000 --> 1:01:31.280 some opportunities to let just go into camp and see 1:01:31.280 --> 1:01:33.000 what those guys have. But I'm with you, I thought 1:01:33.040 --> 1:01:35.520 it would be defensive line. The one thing about Dial 1:01:35.840 --> 1:01:39.280 is that he has, you know, good ball skills, good 1:01:39.320 --> 1:01:42.160 instincts with the football, you know, back to the to 1:01:42.200 --> 1:01:44.640 the quarterback to to read the football and read the 1:01:44.640 --> 1:01:49.160 cash point. He has this little hitch in his in 1:01:49.200 --> 1:01:51.840 his turn and run where you know when he flips 1:01:51.840 --> 1:01:54.280 and runs, he like has it almost is like he 1:01:54.320 --> 1:01:56.200 gets stuck in neutral for a second and then it 1:01:56.240 --> 1:01:59.920 opens up right and so fast, like really dynamic out 1:02:00.040 --> 1:02:02.600 side receivers like he's gonna see in the NFL, they're 1:02:02.680 --> 1:02:04.520 gonna eat it up when he does that, and he 1:02:04.560 --> 1:02:07.200 has a good recovery speed to maybe make up for it. 1:02:07.720 --> 1:02:09.520 But there's this is it's a weird thing. It's almost 1:02:09.560 --> 1:02:11.640 like he presses pause or like the controller brakes or 1:02:11.680 --> 1:02:13.960 something like that, and then he goes. And so if 1:02:14.000 --> 1:02:15.440 they can clean that up, you know, that's what Mike 1:02:15.440 --> 1:02:17.400 Pelgreeno is here for. And he's he's pretty good at 1:02:17.400 --> 1:02:18.400 developing they do. 1:02:18.720 --> 1:02:21.640 He dials the exact kind of corner that they've done 1:02:21.680 --> 1:02:23.720 a great job developing for years and years and years 1:02:23.760 --> 1:02:27.280 and turning into a player. So yeah, I'm not I'm 1:02:27.280 --> 1:02:29.120 not telling you he's automatically gonna be a hit, but 1:02:29.160 --> 1:02:31.080 I'm not running him off either. Yeah. 1:02:31.120 --> 1:02:34.680 Before we get to your favorite pick of the draft. 1:02:34.640 --> 1:02:36.200 Oh, we got another guy to go, and then he 1:02:36.240 --> 1:02:37.120 gets my favorite. 1:02:37.720 --> 1:02:40.280 Now we're about to get to your favorite suns out 1:02:40.280 --> 1:02:42.640 funds out, So get ready for warmer weather. The latest 1:02:43.000 --> 1:02:45.680 in stock and ready to ship outdoor styles from Bob's 1:02:45.680 --> 1:02:48.840 Discount Furniture Shop. Everything from weather is this at Wicker 1:02:48.880 --> 1:02:52.720 seating and barbecue ready, bar and dining sets to on 1:02:52.920 --> 1:02:57.520 trend indoor outdoor rugs, umbrellas and decre Stop and shop 1:02:57.600 --> 1:03:01.280 now to embrace springtime at Bob's Discount Furniture, the official 1:03:01.400 --> 1:03:04.680 furniture store of the New England Patriots. Alex, your favorite 1:03:04.720 --> 1:03:06.960 pick in the draft. I don't want it. Don't don't 1:03:07.000 --> 1:03:07.480 lie to me. 1:03:07.680 --> 1:03:09.320 I thought you're screwing with me. When he texted me, 1:03:09.400 --> 1:03:10.040 don't lie to me. 1:03:11.000 --> 1:03:14.840 I jumped out of my seat upstairs in the admin level, 1:03:16.160 --> 1:03:20.800 stared Admin Neil Perry in the eyes and said, you 1:03:20.880 --> 1:03:22.120 are effing kidding me? 1:03:22.400 --> 1:03:24.000 Right, yeah? Literally? 1:03:24.680 --> 1:03:29.040 When he said out loud, Joe Milton the third, I 1:03:29.080 --> 1:03:31.760 couldn't believe it. There was two picks that maybe got 1:03:31.800 --> 1:03:34.400 me out of my seat. Javon Baker was pumped about 1:03:34.400 --> 1:03:38.240 that pick, especially after the guard, like, God, shoot me right, 1:03:38.280 --> 1:03:41.320 and then they make the Javon Baker pick it. That's 1:03:41.320 --> 1:03:43.120 not against Leyden Robinson, by the way, it's just the 1:03:43.160 --> 1:03:46.520 pos position. Yeah, and then they make the Javon Baker pick. 1:03:46.960 --> 1:03:49.680 I got probably a little bit too excited about that. 1:03:49.840 --> 1:03:52.120 Not gonna lie. And then they go Joe Milton the 1:03:52.160 --> 1:03:54.920 third and I was my jaw was on the floor. 1:03:55.160 --> 1:03:57.600 I was I So, here's the thing. 1:03:57.720 --> 1:03:59.680 I didn't think they do it because I thought if 1:03:59.680 --> 1:04:01.440 they after Joe Milton was going to have to be 1:04:01.440 --> 1:04:02.280 at one thirty seven. 1:04:02.480 --> 1:04:02.840 Yeah. 1:04:02.920 --> 1:04:07.040 I thought one of these, you know, next year quarterback teams, 1:04:07.080 --> 1:04:09.960 the Giants, the Raiders, the Saints, and the Saints did 1:04:10.080 --> 1:04:13.120 end up taking a quarterback. They took Spencer Rattler. I 1:04:13.200 --> 1:04:15.680 thought one of these teams was going to be like, yeah, 1:04:15.680 --> 1:04:18.640 we may need a quarterback anyway next year, so let 1:04:18.680 --> 1:04:20.920 this guy's got a ton of traits. Let's bring him 1:04:20.920 --> 1:04:22.960 in and see and maybe we save ourselves having going 1:04:23.000 --> 1:04:25.680 to the carousel next year. And I think part of 1:04:25.720 --> 1:04:27.640 the reason he fell is just quarterbacks as a whole. 1:04:27.840 --> 1:04:29.960 How many times did I say during the pre draft process, 1:04:30.000 --> 1:04:32.720 seven quarterbacks, either take him first to take him last. 1:04:32.920 --> 1:04:33.920 That's what this draft was. 1:04:34.000 --> 1:04:36.120 I think that's going to be the new NFL philosophy. 1:04:36.160 --> 1:04:38.600 The day two quarterback is kind of unnecessary. 1:04:38.640 --> 1:04:42.920 There was a huge gap between bow. 1:04:42.840 --> 1:04:46.280 Knicks' it was the biggest in NFL history and Spencer 1:04:46.400 --> 1:04:48.520 rattling right it was it's like one hundred and fifty 1:04:48.560 --> 1:04:51.800 something picks. It's the biggest in NFL history. And I 1:04:51.800 --> 1:04:53.320 think that's going to become the new norm. I think 1:04:53.320 --> 1:04:55.720 the guys that are day two fringe picks are just 1:04:55.760 --> 1:04:57.600 going to start going in the first round because teams 1:04:57.600 --> 1:04:59.640 don't have the stomach to wait on him. That's exactly 1:04:59.640 --> 1:05:01.600 what happen with Bo Nicks. If you read Albert Brier 1:05:01.720 --> 1:05:05.680 yesterday and then you know, so all right, all the 1:05:05.760 --> 1:05:07.400 day two quarterbacks are going on Day one, and that 1:05:07.480 --> 1:05:09.520 just leaves you with Day three. So I thought the 1:05:09.520 --> 1:05:11.520 Patriot's gonna have to take Joe Milton at one thirty seven, 1:05:11.560 --> 1:05:13.600 which I just thought, with all their other needs, was 1:05:13.640 --> 1:05:15.360 too much. It was too much. I would not have 1:05:15.400 --> 1:05:17.960 liked to pick at one thirty seven at one ninety three. 1:05:18.680 --> 1:05:20.680 Here's the thing about the six and seventh round of 1:05:20.680 --> 1:05:23.280 the NFL Draft. Most of the time, like sometimes you're 1:05:23.320 --> 1:05:26.840 looking for specialists or maybe guys fall because like Kishon 1:05:26.880 --> 1:05:30.200 Booty last year was like this really unique situation. But 1:05:30.400 --> 1:05:34.240 most of the time, on Day three, you're drafting individual traits. 1:05:34.560 --> 1:05:37.000 You're not drafting a player and saying, we like this 1:05:37.080 --> 1:05:40.280 player's full makeup. It's this guy does this one thing 1:05:40.320 --> 1:05:44.160 at an incredibly high level and maybe the rest of 1:05:44.200 --> 1:05:46.200 his game isn't what it needs to be, but we 1:05:46.240 --> 1:05:47.600 want to see if we can find a way to 1:05:47.680 --> 1:05:50.720 use this one thing and make it great. That's usually 1:05:50.720 --> 1:05:53.440 what you're drafting late on Day three. And I would argue, 1:05:53.640 --> 1:05:58.040 of the individual traits in this draft, if Joe Milton's 1:05:58.200 --> 1:06:01.800 arm strength isn't number one, it's in the top three. 1:06:01.840 --> 1:06:04.560 I think the three most impressive physical traits in this 1:06:04.640 --> 1:06:09.280 draft outright are to and Andre Sweat's size and power. 1:06:09.640 --> 1:06:13.360 Like that's one thing, right, that big, that powerful, Xavier 1:06:13.400 --> 1:06:16.360 Worthy speed. Yeah, in Joe Milton's arm, I don't think 1:06:16.400 --> 1:06:19.120 there's a single trait in the draft that's more that 1:06:19.240 --> 1:06:21.560 you know that's the top tier. If rank them how 1:06:21.600 --> 1:06:25.480 you want, I think honestly i'd put Sweat and then 1:06:25.720 --> 1:06:28.080 Milton and then Worthy. That's how i'd rank them. Yeah, 1:06:28.080 --> 1:06:30.520 but you weren't getting Tovandre Sweat at one ninety three. 1:06:30.520 --> 1:06:33.960 You weren't getting Xavier Worthy at one ninety three. So 1:06:34.040 --> 1:06:36.400 with Joe Milton, like, yeah, sign me up for the trade. 1:06:36.400 --> 1:06:38.440 I don't see the downside here. It's one hundred and 1:06:38.480 --> 1:06:40.600 ninety third pick. If you want to wet your pants 1:06:40.800 --> 1:06:43.240 over the one hundred and ninety third pick, I guess 1:06:43.680 --> 1:06:45.000 go for it. Have fun. 1:06:45.320 --> 1:06:47.320 This is That is one of my pet peeves about 1:06:47.320 --> 1:06:49.160 the draft. And I've been trying to be better about 1:06:49.160 --> 1:06:51.360 this and not pick on on on our listeners who 1:06:51.400 --> 1:06:52.360 are awesome or whatever. 1:06:52.520 --> 1:06:53.800 Right, but our listeners are smarter. 1:06:54.080 --> 1:06:56.960 But one of the one of my biggest nitpicks are 1:06:57.000 --> 1:06:59.320 pet pees oft the draft is people that get upset 1:06:59.360 --> 1:07:02.240 over six and seve and round picks. Right, guys, these 1:07:02.240 --> 1:07:05.440 are these are the lottery tickets of lottery. 1:07:05.600 --> 1:07:09.040 Unless it's a guy where like you object, you know, 1:07:09.760 --> 1:07:12.200 if if there's something you're like, oh, this guy will 1:07:12.240 --> 1:07:14.280 be bad for the team. Usually that's off the fields, 1:07:14.560 --> 1:07:17.920 right Joe Milton. Joe Milton is like the man, Yeah 1:07:18.040 --> 1:07:21.800 Joe Milton. Everybody you talked to, no, but but you listened. 1:07:21.960 --> 1:07:24.680 Like my my favorite was the combin just because. 1:07:26.120 --> 1:07:28.320 Throat he turns around, he's not even looking I know 1:07:28.560 --> 1:07:30.480 it's it's he's so cool. So and he all said 1:07:30.520 --> 1:07:33.240 he doesn't he doesn't like the Bazuka Joe nickname. 1:07:33.440 --> 1:07:33.960 Too bad. 1:07:34.400 --> 1:07:36.479 No, no, I respect another. 1:07:36.920 --> 1:07:38.280 If he has another one, I'll call him. 1:07:38.400 --> 1:07:40.040 I gotta find it. I think it was like mister 1:07:40.120 --> 1:07:40.760 Rocket or something. 1:07:40.760 --> 1:07:42.640 Okay, well we should like get that because I I 1:07:42.800 --> 1:07:45.040 Patriots dot Com. I should not be writing Bazuka Joe 1:07:45.040 --> 1:07:46.360 if he doesn't like Bazuka Joe. 1:07:46.600 --> 1:07:48.840 So, uh, we'll come up with We'll find it. Our 1:07:48.880 --> 1:07:54.040 friend Zach you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, Zach. 1:07:54.040 --> 1:07:55.880 I can't pronounce his last name, but he you know, 1:07:55.920 --> 1:07:58.760 he's started covering the Patriots this year. He he he 1:07:59.160 --> 1:08:01.720 interviewed Joe Milton Combine and first off came across great 1:08:01.720 --> 1:08:04.280 and all. He also said Bazuka Joe's not his favorite 1:08:04.360 --> 1:08:08.200 nickname because he I'll try to find it. But so, 1:08:08.240 --> 1:08:11.880 here's the thing with the pick. Is Joe Milton going 1:08:11.920 --> 1:08:14.360 to Kirk Cousins Drake May I don't think so. 1:08:15.040 --> 1:08:19.559 Yeah, but he's acting way more tame inside you were 1:08:19.640 --> 1:08:22.000 you were way more excited than this. Yeah, admitt it. 1:08:22.240 --> 1:08:25.880 I got more calls and texts after they picked you. You 1:08:25.840 --> 1:08:28.320 got drafted. It felt like I got you got drafted. 1:08:28.360 --> 1:08:31.160 It really was insane, Like I'm trying to write the 1:08:31.240 --> 1:08:36.400 thing and my phone wouldn't stop because I heard more 1:08:36.439 --> 1:08:39.559 people after they picked Joe Milton than I heard from 1:08:39.560 --> 1:08:41.920 on my birthday. I'm not kidding, I'm not It's not 1:08:41.920 --> 1:08:43.040 a joke. I'm serious. 1:08:43.360 --> 1:08:45.320 So I remember to issue a happy birthday this year. 1:08:45.320 --> 1:08:47.160 You did. Yeah, this here by the way I found it. 1:08:47.160 --> 1:08:50.760 So Joe Milton, Joe Milton. This is from Zach Ventola 1:08:50.840 --> 1:08:53.960 at any Patriots Ay on Twitter, interviewed Joe Milton at 1:08:53.960 --> 1:08:57.120 Sea Bowl. It's a terrible name. A Bazuka can only 1:08:57.160 --> 1:09:00.679 go so far. And he he likes miss to rocket 1:09:02.640 --> 1:09:03.360 mister Rockett. 1:09:03.360 --> 1:09:06.640 Maybe I don't know, maybe Rocket. 1:09:06.280 --> 1:09:12.599 Shoe, maybe Joe Rockett. Uh maybe so anyway, so here's 1:09:12.600 --> 1:09:13.880 the thing. Here's the thing with the pick back to 1:09:13.920 --> 1:09:15.680 the player, back to the player. But I want to 1:09:15.680 --> 1:09:18.240 make sure, all right, when we're talking about mister Rocket. 1:09:18.080 --> 1:09:20.080 He I'm sorry that doesn't work for me. 1:09:21.120 --> 1:09:25.559 Yeah right, okay, So, yeah, is he gonna Kirk Cousins strike? 1:09:25.640 --> 1:09:28.200 May probably not, But there's a couple of ways you 1:09:28.240 --> 1:09:30.040 can go here, Like he's gonna tear it up in 1:09:30.040 --> 1:09:32.559 the preseason yep, because he was good enough last year 1:09:32.560 --> 1:09:34.200 at Tennessee and when you get into the second half 1:09:34.200 --> 1:09:37.040 of these preseason games, it's basically the guys he was 1:09:37.080 --> 1:09:39.640 playing at Tennessee. Like it's called like football. 1:09:39.240 --> 1:09:41.120 A better version of Elie Cunningham, and that's it. 1:09:41.240 --> 1:09:42.880 It's good. There's gonna be a lot. He was a 1:09:42.920 --> 1:09:44.519 year too early because if he was in the Elie 1:09:44.520 --> 1:09:47.400 Cunningham role last year, yeah, oh boy, that would have 1:09:47.439 --> 1:09:50.240 gotten ye. But you know, he's gonna tear it up. 1:09:50.400 --> 1:09:52.360 I think there's a potential for him to be a 1:09:52.360 --> 1:09:54.519 package player. He's not gonna play tight end. He was 1:09:54.680 --> 1:09:57.839 very definitive about that. I don't think which he shouldn't. 1:09:57.840 --> 1:10:00.800 He shouldn't know, and everybody's like, oh, big guy, I 1:10:00.880 --> 1:10:03.760 don't know that he can play tight end because one 1:10:03.760 --> 1:10:05.679 of the big issues with him at quarterbacks is his footwork. 1:10:05.720 --> 1:10:08.360 How's he going to run routes? And he's fast. I 1:10:08.400 --> 1:10:10.439 don't know that he's fast enough to separate. He's more 1:10:10.680 --> 1:10:13.240 The reason he's an effective runner is because he's sixty 1:10:13.280 --> 1:10:15.400 five two hundred and thirty five pounds. Yeah, and he 1:10:15.439 --> 1:10:17.600 gets the outside against corners who have no shot to 1:10:17.600 --> 1:10:20.640 tackle him. So he's a quarterback and good for him 1:10:20.680 --> 1:10:22.400 for one to stick there and all that. But when 1:10:22.439 --> 1:10:25.240 I say package player, this is actually a So I'm 1:10:25.240 --> 1:10:28.160 not gonna say Taysom Hill because that's not But when 1:10:28.240 --> 1:10:30.880 Jacoby Burssett was in Indy with Andrew Luck, do you 1:10:30.960 --> 1:10:34.360 remember this, They would use Jacoby Brissett for Hail Mary's 1:10:34.720 --> 1:10:38.120 quarterback sneaks and they had one sort of designed read 1:10:38.200 --> 1:10:42.599 option package for him on offense that role for Joe 1:10:42.640 --> 1:10:45.400 because and look, can can Drake may throw him Mary's. Yes, 1:10:45.400 --> 1:10:46.680 he has a big arm, but it's not his big 1:10:46.680 --> 1:10:50.240 as Joe Miltons. Can Drake may run with the football? Yes, 1:10:50.240 --> 1:10:53.120 but if you need short yardage, why have your third 1:10:53.160 --> 1:10:55.760 overall pick take the beating When you can throw Joe Million, 1:10:55.760 --> 1:10:58.280 who's bigger and more powerful of a runner, you can 1:10:58.280 --> 1:10:59.800 put him out there and let him go be a 1:10:59.800 --> 1:11:02.479 move and then maybe you have some other pet you 1:11:02.520 --> 1:11:05.519 have basically the Malie Cunningham package where it's mainly read 1:11:05.560 --> 1:11:07.360 option and there's a couple options for him to throw 1:11:07.360 --> 1:11:09.439 off of it. Yeah, like that could be a valuable 1:11:09.479 --> 1:11:12.840 role and who knows, maybe, like everybody rode off and 1:11:12.880 --> 1:11:14.519 I don't want to use the Taysom Hill comp because 1:11:14.520 --> 1:11:16.360 again I don't think Joe Milton's gonna play tight end, 1:11:16.400 --> 1:11:20.080 nor should he. But remember when there were teams that 1:11:20.080 --> 1:11:21.680 were willingly give up like a second round pick for 1:11:21.720 --> 1:11:24.519 Taysom Hill off of that weird package they were doing. 1:11:24.760 --> 1:11:26.200 So that's an interesting. 1:11:26.600 --> 1:11:31.479 So can you develop Joe Milton enough he got trade value? 1:11:31.479 --> 1:11:32.760 You're not gonna get a second round pick for him, 1:11:32.760 --> 1:11:34.439 I don't think, because he's just older, Like he's too 1:11:34.439 --> 1:11:36.680 old for that. But if you draft Joe Milton in 1:11:36.680 --> 1:11:38.200 the sixth round in two years, you trade him for 1:11:38.240 --> 1:11:42.080 a fourth, it did pretty well. So there's a number. 1:11:42.240 --> 1:11:44.439 In worst case scenario, he doesn't make the team the 1:11:44.479 --> 1:11:46.760 way most six round picks don't, and we get a 1:11:46.760 --> 1:11:49.720 fun preseason. This will be the most exciting preseason in 1:11:49.760 --> 1:11:53.559 Patriots history. I've said that, But you know, worst case 1:11:53.560 --> 1:11:55.040 scenario doesn't make the team. We got, you know, a 1:11:55.040 --> 1:11:56.920 couple of fun preseason games out of it, whatever, so 1:11:57.000 --> 1:11:59.720 be it. So I obviously like to pick that, And 1:11:59.760 --> 1:12:01.040 that's that's my thought. 1:12:01.000 --> 1:12:03.160 That that picked up momentum like I wanted it to 1:12:03.280 --> 1:12:05.400 there at the end. At first, you were trying to 1:12:05.479 --> 1:12:08.600 like the lines. Yes, if if you need somebody to 1:12:08.600 --> 1:12:09.920 throw out five yards, he'll throw it eighty. 1:12:09.960 --> 1:12:13.000 Everybody knows the lines. But yeah, I know, now he's here, 1:12:13.000 --> 1:12:14.519 I'm gonna give my football take on No. 1:12:14.640 --> 1:12:16.080 I no, no, I didn't mean it like that. I 1:12:16.160 --> 1:12:18.639 just meant like, I know you're you at first were 1:12:18.920 --> 1:12:21.200 trying to be not excited about the pick, and then 1:12:21.240 --> 1:12:22.160 and then you picked up the. 1:12:22.080 --> 1:12:24.160 Moment I'm excited, and then I just what do you 1:12:24.200 --> 1:12:25.880 want me? I can't do a backflot. If I could 1:12:25.880 --> 1:12:28.439 do a backflip and I do it right, but I can't. 1:12:28.600 --> 1:12:31.240 So so here are my thoughts on the pick. First 1:12:31.240 --> 1:12:34.680 of all, I watched the tape that I watched of 1:12:34.760 --> 1:12:37.160 his I watched too. I watched Alabama and I watched Vanderbilt, 1:12:37.160 --> 1:12:39.479 which was his best game vander I know Vanderbilt stings, 1:12:39.560 --> 1:12:42.280 but he lit it up. He threw like four touchdowns, 1:12:42.360 --> 1:12:44.400 like three hundred plus yards in that game. So I 1:12:44.439 --> 1:12:46.080 just watched it to see what what it looked like 1:12:46.320 --> 1:12:48.839 at its peak. But against Alabama, he threw a touchdown 1:12:48.840 --> 1:12:52.719 pass against Alabama, Oh that was about like forty five 1:12:52.800 --> 1:12:57.560 yards in the air. And uh when I say rocket launcher. 1:12:57.320 --> 1:13:00.200 Yeah, and well, did you watch the Kentucky game? No, 1:13:00.320 --> 1:13:03.719 not yet? Watch more. Okay, I only watched a couple 1:13:03.760 --> 1:13:07.080 before the Kentucky game. Is the quint essential Joe Milton, 1:13:07.160 --> 1:13:10.759 Like I've been down it's it's just so it's funny 1:13:11.000 --> 1:13:13.799 the when when they drafted him and I saw somebody 1:13:13.800 --> 1:13:16.200 put out like a highlight reel of Joe Milton. The 1:13:16.280 --> 1:13:19.120 first play is an incompletion, but he throws the ball 1:13:19.520 --> 1:13:22.960 seventy six yards off his back foot on a dot. Yeah, 1:13:23.000 --> 1:13:25.000 and it's an incompletion, but it doesn't matter. And that's 1:13:25.200 --> 1:13:27.320 Joe Milton. It's the Joe Milton experience, and it's in 1:13:27.400 --> 1:13:28.120 its essence. Yeah. 1:13:28.120 --> 1:13:30.520 I think what stood out about the throw against Alabama, 1:13:30.560 --> 1:13:32.920 which I'm sure you remember. Yeah, the biggest thing I 1:13:32.960 --> 1:13:34.840 think that stood out about one the touchdown of the 1:13:34.840 --> 1:13:38.320 pylon right yeah, yeah, like down the left sideline and 1:13:38.320 --> 1:13:39.559 the receiver had to like reach. 1:13:39.439 --> 1:13:40.960 Out for it a little. I think that's score a white. 1:13:41.400 --> 1:13:43.040 I think that the biggest thing that stood out to 1:13:43.080 --> 1:13:45.519 me was that this thing was on a line, Like 1:13:45.600 --> 1:13:48.400 it's not like this thing is like it's is he 1:13:48.400 --> 1:13:51.280 he can throw the tear drop right, but he's not. 1:13:51.439 --> 1:13:53.639 Yeah. No, people needn't understand that. It's not just oh 1:13:53.680 --> 1:13:57.320 he throws the ball far, No, he hes the ball 1:13:57.320 --> 1:13:59.719 through the door. Do you remember the old Peyton Manning 1:14:00.320 --> 1:14:02.760 sprint commercially? Yeah, you know, if you're like six ft five, 1:14:02.760 --> 1:14:05.160 two hundred and thirty pound quarterbacks, laser rocket arm, Yeah, 1:14:05.320 --> 1:14:05.840 Joe Milton. 1:14:05.960 --> 1:14:08.920 Yeah, he can throw the ball on a line fifty 1:14:09.000 --> 1:14:09.639 yards in the air. 1:14:09.760 --> 1:14:10.000 Right. 1:14:10.640 --> 1:14:13.400 It is an absolute rocket launcher. And I think the 1:14:13.400 --> 1:14:17.240 one thing that I was even mostly impressed with is 1:14:17.280 --> 1:14:20.240 that usually when you have these six foot five hundred 1:14:20.240 --> 1:14:23.640 and thirty eight pound quarterbacks with rocket arms, it's this 1:14:23.880 --> 1:14:28.120 long wind up thing right, Like he gets it out quick. No, 1:14:28.479 --> 1:14:31.360 that's he's got a snappy release. Man. 1:14:31.479 --> 1:14:35.200 I can't stress this enough. The thing that's so much 1:14:35.240 --> 1:14:37.920 fun about Joe Milton, that's so exciting about Joe Milton. 1:14:38.760 --> 1:14:41.960 It doesn't make sense. Yeah, like most of what he does, 1:14:43.160 --> 1:14:46.160 he's the only quarterback on the planet that can do it. Yeah, 1:14:46.200 --> 1:14:49.720 you're not really supposed to be able to off your 1:14:49.760 --> 1:14:56.759 front foot half release on a clothesline fifty five yards. Now, Again, 1:14:57.160 --> 1:14:59.479 you gotta be able to control it. And that's why 1:14:59.520 --> 1:15:01.200 he was a SI round picking on a first round 1:15:01.200 --> 1:15:04.720 pick because he can't always control it. But some of 1:15:04.760 --> 1:15:08.400 the throws he makes are truly one of one. They 1:15:08.439 --> 1:15:11.360 were just in college in the NFL. You're not gonna 1:15:11.400 --> 1:15:12.800 find anybody else who can do that. 1:15:13.240 --> 1:15:18.080 Yeah, So, I it's a rocket launcher. It's not this 1:15:18.240 --> 1:15:20.840 that we're not talking about, like teardrop bombs. We're talking 1:15:20.840 --> 1:15:25.000 about there's smoke on the ball, right, it's a rocket launcher. 1:15:25.320 --> 1:15:27.160 I was really I don't know if you sorry to 1:15:27.200 --> 1:15:27.720 cut you off again. 1:15:27.720 --> 1:15:30.160 I don't know if you know this story. His receivers 1:15:30.200 --> 1:15:32.720 at Tennessee would wear two pairs of gloves because they 1:15:32.720 --> 1:15:34.719 were worried, I would their fingers being broken. 1:15:34.760 --> 1:15:36.120 I would not want to catch that ball. 1:15:36.200 --> 1:15:37.720 Yeah. 1:15:38.080 --> 1:15:42.120 I was really impressed with his actual mechanics in terms 1:15:42.120 --> 1:15:46.240 of his throwing. Yeah, in terms of like rotating on 1:15:46.320 --> 1:15:48.800 the axis and in getting the ball out quickly in 1:15:48.840 --> 1:15:51.479 that compact release. The way that he throws the ball 1:15:51.560 --> 1:15:55.599 mechanically is actually not all that far off from Jaden Daniels. 1:15:56.080 --> 1:15:58.519 He just has a And I say that because Jade 1:15:58.600 --> 1:16:00.560 Daniels I think had probably the clean his mechanics in 1:16:00.560 --> 1:16:03.479 the draft is Himmer McCarthy. Yeah, so really really clean. 1:16:03.920 --> 1:16:06.240 And I'm not talking about footwork. I'm talking about actual 1:16:06.479 --> 1:16:10.920 mechanical chain of your body, you know, hips, shoulders rotating 1:16:10.960 --> 1:16:14.160 on that axis, a compact release. I was really impressed 1:16:14.160 --> 1:16:18.720 with all that. His footwork is very inconsistent, Like sometimes 1:16:18.760 --> 1:16:21.240 he's got this, he's really light on his feet and 1:16:21.240 --> 1:16:23.760 he dances around pressure and he steps into throws and 1:16:23.760 --> 1:16:25.800 things like that, and other times it looks like he's 1:16:25.800 --> 1:16:27.000 stuck in mud. 1:16:27.080 --> 1:16:29.519 Right, it's odd. But even when that happens, sometimes it 1:16:29.520 --> 1:16:31.240 doesn't matter because he doesn't put his feet into the 1:16:31.280 --> 1:16:32.000 throw and he still throws. 1:16:32.400 --> 1:16:35.679 Yeah, but where it does matter is with his accuracy, right, 1:16:36.160 --> 1:16:39.080 you know, and that's he's gonna spray the ball over 1:16:39.120 --> 1:16:42.800 the place and his decision making can he can lose 1:16:42.840 --> 1:16:44.120 the radar can shut off. 1:16:44.280 --> 1:16:46.920 Well, now, what you make of him saying that his 1:16:46.920 --> 1:16:49.040 favorite quarterback to watch is Brock Party. 1:16:49.600 --> 1:16:53.000 Oh God, I could not see a more polar opposite quarterback. 1:16:53.160 --> 1:16:55.679 I like that because he said he goes Brock Purty 1:16:55.760 --> 1:16:58.160 is really good footwork. Yeah, and that's why he watches 1:16:58.200 --> 1:17:00.439 Brock Party because he wants to improve his footwork. Yeah, 1:17:00.520 --> 1:17:02.760 that's that's real self awareness. Like, good for him. 1:17:02.840 --> 1:17:05.920 I've said multiple times with Joe Milton, he's Day three, Anthony. 1:17:05.960 --> 1:17:07.880 Anthony richards said, well, no, he's Day three. 1:17:07.960 --> 1:17:08.439 Drake May. 1:17:09.160 --> 1:17:11.760 I I don't think so, No, No, I think Drake 1:17:11.840 --> 1:17:16.599 May is more naturally like instinctually a football player. I 1:17:16.600 --> 1:17:20.639 think Joe Milton is toolsy and he can run too. 1:17:20.720 --> 1:17:23.960 We should you know four six speak Yeah, Yeah, good runner, 1:17:24.600 --> 1:17:25.840 especially scrambling. 1:17:26.000 --> 1:17:28.240 Yeah. Like you can't let him out of the pocket 1:17:28.240 --> 1:17:29.040 because he will kill you. 1:17:29.120 --> 1:17:31.639 Yeah. Day three Anthony Richardson. You know, and and at 1:17:31.640 --> 1:17:34.520 this point in the draft, Howie Roseman was doing a 1:17:34.640 --> 1:17:38.160 press conference and I thought that he gave one of 1:17:38.160 --> 1:17:40.840 the best answers I've heard about what Day three of 1:17:40.880 --> 1:17:44.040 the draft is all about. And it was exactly what 1:17:44.080 --> 1:17:48.360 you said just a minute ago. At Day three, you're 1:17:48.439 --> 1:17:52.800 drafting a trait. Yeah, and it better be special if 1:17:52.840 --> 1:17:54.400 you think that that guy's going to pan out in 1:17:54.400 --> 1:17:54.760 the league. 1:17:54.960 --> 1:17:55.080 Right. 1:17:55.439 --> 1:17:58.400 You're the guys that have sixteen different positives on their 1:17:58.439 --> 1:18:01.920 scouting reporter gone. So you're looking for one thing that 1:18:02.080 --> 1:18:05.879 separates this player from that player. And with Joe Milton, 1:18:06.000 --> 1:18:08.400 there's no doubt about it. The arm talent is different 1:18:08.520 --> 1:18:11.160 than anybody else, and so you're taking a chance on 1:18:11.200 --> 1:18:14.960 the arm talent, and maybe AVP and Ben mcaduw behind 1:18:14.960 --> 1:18:17.519 the scenes can get him coached up. I think the 1:18:17.560 --> 1:18:22.280 biggest thing is is that, like you mentioned, best case scenario, 1:18:23.760 --> 1:18:26.439 he's Kirk Cousins, right, And I'm not saying that that's 1:18:26.479 --> 1:18:28.640 what we want to happen. I'm just saying if it 1:18:28.680 --> 1:18:33.559 does happen, it does happen. Worst case scenario, he doesn't 1:18:33.560 --> 1:18:37.600 make the team. Middle scenario, hangs out around here for 1:18:37.640 --> 1:18:40.920 a year or two, develops lights it up in the preseason, 1:18:40.920 --> 1:18:43.519 and maybe he has some trade value down the load, 1:18:43.800 --> 1:18:47.639 down the road. With all that being said, I think 1:18:47.680 --> 1:18:53.400 we have to be a little bit fair and not hypocritical. 1:18:55.080 --> 1:18:56.559 I don't love it for Drake May. 1:18:57.479 --> 1:18:58.840 I do like how he's handling it. 1:18:58.920 --> 1:19:01.120 I like how he's handling it. But we talked about 1:19:01.160 --> 1:19:03.960 this all the time with Mac Jones. It's a little 1:19:04.000 --> 1:19:08.280 bit of mind games out of the gate because let's 1:19:08.280 --> 1:19:11.960 face it, in shorts and a T shirt come into 1:19:12.000 --> 1:19:14.120 May early June when we go out there for mini camp, 1:19:15.080 --> 1:19:17.320 Joe Milton is gonna look just as impressive and shorts 1:19:17.320 --> 1:19:18.880 and a T shirt as Drake May, if not more. 1:19:19.760 --> 1:19:23.880 And my concern is not us, not the people here, 1:19:25.000 --> 1:19:28.600 not the people listening, because they're educated. My my, my 1:19:28.840 --> 1:19:32.360 concern is that we're gonna get reports and we're gonna 1:19:32.360 --> 1:19:35.240 get buzz that Joe Milton looks better than Drake May. 1:19:35.320 --> 1:19:38.400 So here's what I'll say to that. I and how 1:19:38.439 --> 1:19:39.240 do I don't disagree? 1:19:39.400 --> 1:19:40.439 How does Drake May handle that? 1:19:40.560 --> 1:19:40.680 Right? 1:19:40.720 --> 1:19:42.800 We were very hypocritical, and I think Drake, if Drake 1:19:42.840 --> 1:19:44.600 May can't handle it, he's not gonna be able to 1:19:44.600 --> 1:19:45.519 handle this league. 1:19:45.640 --> 1:19:46.160 That's fair. 1:19:46.280 --> 1:19:49.559 So there's that side of it. This is this is 1:19:49.600 --> 1:19:51.880 the packaway. They're gonna draft a quarterback every year, every 1:19:51.920 --> 1:19:53.479 other year. This is what they're gonna need to do. 1:19:53.560 --> 1:19:57.080 He's got to get used to it. So in that sense, 1:19:57.360 --> 1:20:00.280 I don't think it's pushing buttons too much. If they 1:20:00.280 --> 1:20:04.280 start fooling around with the depth chart and they start 1:20:04.280 --> 1:20:08.160 being unclear about who's playing and things like that, then yes, 1:20:08.560 --> 1:20:12.920 then it's too much. For now. We want Drake May 1:20:12.960 --> 1:20:15.400 to be in this league for twenty years, right, Yeah, 1:20:15.479 --> 1:20:17.680 the Patriots are going to draft other quarterbacks over the 1:20:17.680 --> 1:20:20.719 next twenty years. That's just it's gonna there's no number. 1:20:20.880 --> 1:20:24.040 But if Tom Brady can get insecure Let's face it, 1:20:24.040 --> 1:20:27.000 that's what he was insecure about Jimmy Garoppolo. 1:20:27.040 --> 1:20:30.080 But what did he do with it? That was that 1:20:30.280 --> 1:20:30.840 was the goat. 1:20:31.200 --> 1:20:34.439 But that's so that he was already well established into 1:20:34.520 --> 1:20:34.920 his career. 1:20:35.160 --> 1:20:36.800 Let's see if Drake may can use it to fuel him. 1:20:36.840 --> 1:20:39.080 I'm not I'm not. You're right, we shouldn't be hypocritical. 1:20:39.120 --> 1:20:41.360 And we said they pushed the buttons too much with 1:20:41.479 --> 1:20:44.160 Bailey's Appy and mac Jones, and that's a fair point. 1:20:44.479 --> 1:20:47.560 But at the same time, they're gonna draft quarterbacks. 1:20:47.600 --> 1:20:48.920 I don't love it for that reason. 1:20:49.560 --> 1:20:50.639 If if this is it what. 1:20:50.680 --> 1:20:52.840 I like Joe Milton, Yeah, I don't love the pick. 1:20:54.880 --> 1:20:58.320 If what Joe Milden in the sixth round is enough 1:20:58.360 --> 1:21:01.240 to ruin Drake Man, he was probably not gonna make 1:21:01.280 --> 1:21:02.960 it to me. And I think he's mentally tougher in that. 1:21:03.080 --> 1:21:07.080 But we always say this, why why like why even 1:21:08.040 --> 1:21:08.960 why even put that out? 1:21:08.960 --> 1:21:11.439 Because their philosophy they always draft. They are in draft 1:21:11.520 --> 1:21:12.960 quarterback next year or the year after. This is what 1:21:12.960 --> 1:21:13.200 they do. 1:21:13.360 --> 1:21:15.639 And it's also the Packer way too right, That's. 1:21:15.520 --> 1:21:18.000 What I'm saying. So just he's got to get used 1:21:18.000 --> 1:21:20.519 to it. If he can't handle just this. That's more 1:21:20.560 --> 1:21:22.519 of a red flag about Drake May than is about 1:21:22.520 --> 1:21:22.720 to front. 1:21:22.800 --> 1:21:24.679 Ye, I hear you. But we always said with Mac 1:21:25.120 --> 1:21:27.120 that you're testing him just to test them. 1:21:27.240 --> 1:21:30.120 Well, that was to another level drafting Bay. I when 1:21:30.160 --> 1:21:32.920 they drafted Bailey's Appy, I liked it. I did. I said, 1:21:32.920 --> 1:21:35.759 this is good. They need a long term backup. Brian 1:21:35.840 --> 1:21:38.519 Hoyer is on the older side Bailey. Remember my comport 1:21:38.560 --> 1:21:41.120 Bailey's Appy the whole time was Chase Daniel. This guy's 1:21:41.160 --> 1:21:43.240 gonna be in the league for fifteen years and he'll 1:21:43.280 --> 1:21:45.600 maybe throw a total of one hundred passes. Yeah, like 1:21:45.680 --> 1:21:47.760 that's who I thought, And you need that guy. You 1:21:47.840 --> 1:21:51.760 need a good backup quarterback. That's important. If you know 1:21:51.840 --> 1:21:54.360 they start pulling Drake May out of games, and I 1:21:54.400 --> 1:21:56.080 don't mean like in a package sense, I mean if 1:21:56.080 --> 1:21:58.840 they start benching Drake May for Joe Milton after one 1:21:58.880 --> 1:22:02.639 interception coming off injury, then yeah, I'll say it's too much. 1:22:02.880 --> 1:22:06.400 If if Mayo refuses to say Drake May's name and 1:22:06.520 --> 1:22:09.000 only talks about Joe Milton, then yeah, I'll say it's 1:22:09.040 --> 1:22:10.360 too much because it will be too much. 1:22:10.680 --> 1:22:13.880 But we both know, I we both know that it 1:22:13.960 --> 1:22:18.360 happened with Maleik Cunningham. Yes, we both know that there's 1:22:18.400 --> 1:22:22.800 gonna be a section of people that are going to 1:22:22.840 --> 1:22:26.559 sit there and always say they should try out Joe Milton, 1:22:26.720 --> 1:22:27.360 they should. 1:22:27.080 --> 1:22:28.599 Try it, and it's absolutely gonna happen. 1:22:28.640 --> 1:22:32.840 And thus Drake May is justin Herbert right out of 1:22:32.840 --> 1:22:35.200 the gate is just awesome. But Evan, that's always gonna 1:22:35.240 --> 1:22:35.519 be they. 1:22:35.520 --> 1:22:38.040 Didn't draft Joe Milton, there were gonna be people saying 1:22:38.040 --> 1:22:41.559 that about Bailey's appy. Oh no, come on, yeah, there's 1:22:41.600 --> 1:22:44.240 some people saying it. As soon as they draft. 1:22:45.760 --> 1:22:48.479 As soon as people here see Drake May throw football, 1:22:48.479 --> 1:22:51.719 they're gonna forget all about Bailey's appy, right, And Joe Milton. 1:22:52.040 --> 1:22:54.280 I don't know about that because Joe Milton's gonna throw 1:22:54.280 --> 1:22:55.400 the football just as pretty. 1:22:55.920 --> 1:22:59.280 Look I'm being I'm you're right, we should be intellectually consistent. 1:23:00.080 --> 1:23:02.360 I'm saying I was fine when they drafted Bailey Zappy 1:23:02.479 --> 1:23:03.840 a year after, and it's a little different at the 1:23:03.880 --> 1:23:07.080 same draft, but drafting Bailey Zappy after Mac Jones at 1:23:07.080 --> 1:23:08.840 the time made a ton of sense because they needed 1:23:08.880 --> 1:23:11.880 a backup quarterback. Jacoby Rissett's not here beyond this year 1:23:12.080 --> 1:23:16.160 they needed a backup quarterback. Joe Milton stylistically is similar 1:23:16.160 --> 1:23:19.040 to Drake May. That makes him a good backup quarterback 1:23:19.120 --> 1:23:21.280 for Drake May because they can run the same offense. 1:23:22.040 --> 1:23:24.800 If it doesn't go any further than that, it's a 1:23:24.800 --> 1:23:27.559 good pick. If they start screwing around with the dynamic, 1:23:27.760 --> 1:23:29.720 then yes, that's gonna be a problem, just like it 1:23:29.760 --> 1:23:30.200 was before. 1:23:30.320 --> 1:23:32.040 The outside of this is gonna screw where I went. 1:23:32.160 --> 1:23:35.559 It's that, and I agree with you, and I feel 1:23:35.600 --> 1:23:38.200 like people are gonna geah, oh he should be tough. Yeah, 1:23:38.240 --> 1:23:40.599 he should be mentally tougher than that. There's no doubt 1:23:40.600 --> 1:23:42.479 about it that he should be mentally tougher than that. 1:23:42.960 --> 1:23:46.760 But he was the He was the guy for like 1:23:47.040 --> 1:23:49.400 twelve hours. I already have people in my mentions talking 1:23:49.400 --> 1:23:53.120 about Joe Milton like being like, oh, you mean Joe Milton, right, Like, no. 1:23:52.880 --> 1:23:55.000 No, just Drake May is the guy. Wait till they 1:23:55.000 --> 1:23:57.719 get out and Drake May starts throwing the football, I hope. 1:23:57.760 --> 1:24:00.679 So I'm just telling you that I would have preferred 1:24:00.720 --> 1:24:03.120 if they had drafted Joe Milton next year like they 1:24:03.200 --> 1:24:05.519 drafted Bailey's a Happy next year. I would have been 1:24:05.520 --> 1:24:07.479 all fine with it. So let me ask I would 1:24:07.520 --> 1:24:09.679 have felt we could could we just have Drake May 1:24:09.760 --> 1:24:12.160 with a clean slate and just give him the quarterback 1:24:12.240 --> 1:24:15.120 room behind Jacoby Brissett, who we all know why Jacoby 1:24:15.200 --> 1:24:18.160 Brissett is here. Jacoby Brissett knows why he's here, and 1:24:18.160 --> 1:24:20.559 it's just a clean transition we don't need. 1:24:20.560 --> 1:24:22.880 Okay, first off, we don't even know Joe Mills. Second well, 1:24:22.920 --> 1:24:25.000 how would you felt if they drafted like Michael Pratt 1:24:26.880 --> 1:24:28.320 less as worried? 1:24:29.040 --> 1:24:34.040 Because my concern is is that it is really easy 1:24:34.080 --> 1:24:38.200 to get caught up in Joe Milton's physical trade. The right, 1:24:38.240 --> 1:24:40.080 the arm, and the and the mobility are. 1:24:40.080 --> 1:24:43.439 Legit, but so they are for Drake May too. I know. 1:24:43.560 --> 1:24:46.799 But I'm just telling you that, like I keep saying, 1:24:47.160 --> 1:24:49.000 when we get out there for OTAs and we get 1:24:49.040 --> 1:24:50.840 out there for mini camp and it's shorts and a 1:24:50.880 --> 1:24:53.280 T shirt and it's and it's glorified seven on seven 1:24:53.320 --> 1:24:55.960 and that kind of stuff. And on top of all 1:24:56.000 --> 1:24:59.880 of that, Joe Milton was in the college football for 1:25:00.040 --> 1:25:00.479 six years. 1:25:00.479 --> 1:25:02.880 He's much older. You might you might think higher of 1:25:02.960 --> 1:25:03.880 Joe Milton than I do. 1:25:04.360 --> 1:25:06.240 It's not about how high I think of Joe Milton. 1:25:06.920 --> 1:25:11.519 I'm just telling you that there's a world where Joe 1:25:11.560 --> 1:25:15.679 Milton and Drake May in Spring Mini Camp, Yeah, look 1:25:15.720 --> 1:25:18.599 about the same, Just like there was a world where 1:25:18.640 --> 1:25:21.479 Mac Jones and Bailey Zappy at different points it looked 1:25:21.520 --> 1:25:25.960 about the same. And just like with them, we said 1:25:27.040 --> 1:25:29.559 this is unnecessary. Now I'm with you, they took it 1:25:29.560 --> 1:25:33.040 to a whole other level and hopefully this regime doesn't. 1:25:32.880 --> 1:25:36.320 Right but I think so far, so far, it's I 1:25:36.400 --> 1:25:39.040 just know this usual. If they take it further than yes, 1:25:39.080 --> 1:25:40.519 it's an issue like it was with Mac and j. 1:25:40.680 --> 1:25:43.920 And I'm not trying to put anybody down in front 1:25:44.040 --> 1:25:46.880 some people, but I just know that there are gonna 1:25:46.880 --> 1:25:49.240 be some casual observers out there that aren't going to 1:25:49.320 --> 1:25:49.879 know the difference. 1:25:50.720 --> 1:25:53.000 That's our job to educate them. That's just like we 1:25:53.040 --> 1:25:54.840 tried to do with Mac Jones and Bailey's Appy. 1:25:54.840 --> 1:25:56.720 All right, seventh round and then we'll open it up 1:25:56.720 --> 1:25:59.200 to end the show to the couple calls and emails 1:25:59.200 --> 1:25:59.880 and things like that. 1:26:00.320 --> 1:26:00.880 Seventh round. 1:26:00.960 --> 1:26:03.799 Jahem Bell, don't sleep on Jahem Bell. 1:26:04.240 --> 1:26:07.599 No pound for pound, like in terms of where they 1:26:07.680 --> 1:26:10.479 drafted him. All of that, I think jahem Bell's there bo. 1:26:10.680 --> 1:26:13.519 I mean Drake May's Drake May, right, but yeah, after 1:26:13.640 --> 1:26:16.160 Drake may chaheen Bell, all things considered, might be their 1:26:16.160 --> 1:26:19.599 best pick. He's one of them. Yeah, good pick. I 1:26:19.640 --> 1:26:21.320 had him. I had him as like a top one 1:26:21.400 --> 1:26:23.320 twenty guy. Yeah, and they got him at two thirty one. 1:26:23.400 --> 1:26:27.840 Yeah, great value where they got him a clear role 1:26:28.400 --> 1:26:30.880 in an Alex Van Pelt offense and then in a 1:26:31.680 --> 1:26:35.360 you know, zone misdirection heavy offense, a clear role there. 1:26:35.520 --> 1:26:37.840 Yeah, and I I see, you know, I did leak. 1:26:37.880 --> 1:26:39.400 He's that motion tight end. Yeah. You know. 1:26:39.520 --> 1:26:41.840 He's a guy that can come underneath the formation and 1:26:41.920 --> 1:26:44.479 hit the flat and hit it with speed and then 1:26:44.800 --> 1:26:46.599 run after the catch with the ball in his hands. 1:26:46.600 --> 1:26:49.599 If he's got you know, a runway there in some 1:26:49.640 --> 1:26:51.880 open space, he can run the scene. He can run 1:26:51.880 --> 1:26:54.720 crossing routes. He's just not quicker, agile at the top 1:26:54.760 --> 1:26:56.200 of the route. Like if you're asking him to break 1:26:56.240 --> 1:26:57.719 down at the top of the route and beat Travis 1:26:57.800 --> 1:27:00.360 Kelcey and get open, that's not his game. But if 1:27:00.400 --> 1:27:02.599 you're just gonna set up ways for him to run 1:27:02.640 --> 1:27:04.759 four six across the field this way and run across 1:27:04.760 --> 1:27:06.240 the field that way and run up to see him 1:27:06.280 --> 1:27:08.960 here and that kind of stuff. I think Jacin Bell 1:27:09.360 --> 1:27:11.400 has a role on this team, Like there's a clear 1:27:11.600 --> 1:27:13.559 role of how they could use him as like an 1:27:13.680 --> 1:27:15.360 I want to call him my h back, a move 1:27:15.439 --> 1:27:17.240 tight end, off the line, tight end, whatever you want 1:27:17.280 --> 1:27:19.200 to play, fall back, Yeah, maybe a little bit of 1:27:19.200 --> 1:27:21.439 full back. I think there's a clear role for him 1:27:21.880 --> 1:27:23.800 on this team. I'm and I think you know, I'm 1:27:23.800 --> 1:27:26.120 a little bit excited about what they could potentially do 1:27:26.240 --> 1:27:29.240 with this guy. His catch and run skill is legit. 1:27:29.400 --> 1:27:32.240 Yeah, and his again you're drafting on trade like his 1:27:32.320 --> 1:27:34.240 ability to to to make a play with the ball 1:27:34.280 --> 1:27:36.439 in his hands, that's what you're taking. I think part 1:27:36.439 --> 1:27:39.040 of the reason he fell, honestly, his teams didn't know 1:27:39.040 --> 1:27:42.040 what position he played. Yeah, he's such a tweeterer. 1:27:41.680 --> 1:27:44.879 That well, because he's because of his size, his size, 1:27:45.000 --> 1:27:45.679 he's and. 1:27:45.600 --> 1:27:47.679 He didn't he very has to combine either. 1:27:47.920 --> 1:27:49.479 He ran like a four to six one, which is 1:27:49.479 --> 1:27:50.519 good for a tight end. 1:27:50.640 --> 1:27:52.519 And the way the tight ends ran this year, he 1:27:52.640 --> 1:27:55.000 was like you had you had Tip Raymond running a 1:27:55.080 --> 1:27:57.519 four or five. Yeah. By the way, Tip Raymond top 1:27:57.520 --> 1:28:00.160 one hundred pick smash mouth football not dead. Don't let 1:28:00.200 --> 1:28:01.280 anybody tell you otherwise. 1:28:01.400 --> 1:28:02.759 That was one of the bigger reaches. 1:28:03.000 --> 1:28:06.080 That was awesome. The tip Raymond going one hundred picks 1:28:06.320 --> 1:28:09.759 before Troy Franklin loved like fifty picks before. Troy Franklin 1:28:10.200 --> 1:28:11.679 loved that. But you loved that. 1:28:12.080 --> 1:28:13.559 This is not a reach. This is the opposite. 1:28:13.600 --> 1:28:16.360 No, this is the opposite of reach. I think part 1:28:16.360 --> 1:28:19.439 of the reason he fell is is you're not gonna 1:28:19.479 --> 1:28:22.800 draft Jaheim Bell and plug him into a role that 1:28:22.880 --> 1:28:26.400 already exists in your offense, because outside of maybe Atlanta, 1:28:27.400 --> 1:28:29.759 I don't think any teams have that role in their offense. 1:28:29.760 --> 1:28:32.200 Like people want to compare Jaime Bell to Kyle Hughescheck, 1:28:32.400 --> 1:28:35.200 he's not Kyle Ucheck, that's not who he is. Yeah, 1:28:35.439 --> 1:28:38.479 I don't know that his role exists. But for the 1:28:38.479 --> 1:28:42.240 Patriots it's a unique opportunity where they're building their offense 1:28:42.240 --> 1:28:44.880 from scratch, so you can put in a role for 1:28:45.000 --> 1:28:47.720 Jaheem Bell and you can kind of build up around him. 1:28:47.720 --> 1:28:49.759 I think in this type of scheme, you know. 1:28:49.880 --> 1:28:51.320 I'm trying to how much did the Browns us a 1:28:51.320 --> 1:28:52.920 fallback last year? Uh? 1:28:53.000 --> 1:28:56.559 They used it like an eligible offensive lineman is out 1:28:56.600 --> 1:28:58.080 they did. It was like he was like a center 1:28:58.160 --> 1:28:59.960 slash full back, is what they had them listed as. 1:29:01.680 --> 1:29:04.320 I think in this so he's six two two forty one, 1:29:04.400 --> 1:29:07.360 which for a tight end is extremely undersized. But his 1:29:07.439 --> 1:29:10.720 testing numbers are good. Uh he ran a uh he 1:29:10.800 --> 1:29:12.599 ran a four to six one, which is eighty eight 1:29:12.640 --> 1:29:15.679 percent dile for the forty yard dash. Uh, thirty five 1:29:15.680 --> 1:29:17.160 inch vertical seventy two percent. 1:29:17.000 --> 1:29:18.360 Maybe something into the seats. Did he not have a 1:29:18.360 --> 1:29:19.960 good senior Bowl? He had something that. 1:29:20.640 --> 1:29:22.400 I don't know, but I mean I can look up 1:29:22.439 --> 1:29:26.040 his his RAS scorer. He's an athletic guy. There's no 1:29:26.040 --> 1:29:26.680 doubt about that. 1:29:26.960 --> 1:29:29.840 Well, I was gonna say, I think he tested. I 1:29:30.120 --> 1:29:31.759 think he's a better athlete than he tested. 1:29:32.880 --> 1:29:35.360 Maybe. I mean that's pretty good testing numbers. 1:29:35.040 --> 1:29:37.479 Like, oh yeah, it is all right, well even better 1:29:37.720 --> 1:29:38.240 even better. 1:29:38.280 --> 1:29:41.160 Look I eight point four y five ris because of 1:29:41.160 --> 1:29:44.920 his size, obviously, that's gonna elite speed in great explosiveness, 1:29:45.040 --> 1:29:49.519 great like good find and he can you know, there's 1:29:49.640 --> 1:29:52.880 absolutely a role for him because he's not super. He 1:29:52.920 --> 1:29:55.800 doesn't overlap with Hunter Henry or Austin Hooper. There's different 1:29:55.800 --> 1:29:57.160 things he can do. He can make plays with the 1:29:57.160 --> 1:29:59.920 ball in his hands. I thought that was a tremendous pick. 1:30:00.040 --> 1:30:01.680 I was great. I couldn't believe he was still on 1:30:01.720 --> 1:30:03.120 the board at that point. A double check. 1:30:03.240 --> 1:30:05.880 Yeah. So when they when they signed John new Smith 1:30:05.920 --> 1:30:06.760 in twenty twenty one. 1:30:06.920 --> 1:30:09.000 Yeah, oh so this is another one. Sorry. Remember how 1:30:09.000 --> 1:30:12.160 I said, like, all right, you know Devonte Parker or 1:30:12.320 --> 1:30:15.320 Jayvon Baker kind of replaces Devonte Parker, Jalen Pole kind 1:30:15.320 --> 1:30:18.599 of replaces Jujus Smith, Schuster obviously not Lee not Apples 1:30:18.600 --> 1:30:22.160 to Apples player tight, but Leighton Robinson, Cole Strange, Drake May, 1:30:22.240 --> 1:30:24.840 mac Jones. Yeah, this is another one. Jahem Bell, John 1:30:24.880 --> 1:30:25.280 new Smith. 1:30:25.439 --> 1:30:29.759 Yeah, so John new Smith in twenty twenty one. He's 1:30:29.880 --> 1:30:32.519 just not a fit for like a Josh McDaniel's type offense. No, 1:30:32.680 --> 1:30:34.160 he couldn't figure out the scheme touchgoyns. 1:30:34.200 --> 1:30:34.439 Yeah. 1:30:35.240 --> 1:30:39.080 Now in this type of offense where you're hitting the 1:30:39.080 --> 1:30:41.920 defense with so much eye candy and misdirection, Yeah, where 1:30:41.960 --> 1:30:45.000 it's you know, look, we're gonna everybody's gonna move to 1:30:45.040 --> 1:30:47.000 the left, but then we're gonna bootleg and we're gonna 1:30:47.000 --> 1:30:49.080 actually hit the point of attack to the right. Things 1:30:49.120 --> 1:30:52.599 like that you create this this horizontal stretch to the field. 1:30:52.640 --> 1:30:54.600 That's the whole idea, right, is to stretch out the 1:30:54.640 --> 1:30:57.599 defense horizontally. And when you have these guys that are 1:30:57.640 --> 1:30:59.360 like Jaane Bell that are two forty and run a 1:30:59.400 --> 1:31:01.320 four to six to one, and you know, you stink 1:31:01.360 --> 1:31:03.559 them out the backside of the formation and now there 1:31:03.680 --> 1:31:06.040 should be green grass in front of them with the 1:31:06.040 --> 1:31:07.880 ball in their hands, and he's one of those guys 1:31:07.920 --> 1:31:10.599 that can eat up the green grass. That's the idea. 1:31:11.680 --> 1:31:13.840 That's again, it's similar to the receiver picks that they 1:31:13.840 --> 1:31:16.439 made earlier in the draft. There's a role and there's 1:31:16.479 --> 1:31:18.839 like a projection of how this guy fits the offense. 1:31:19.439 --> 1:31:23.240 So what I look at and say about this draft 1:31:23.240 --> 1:31:25.800 a lot on the offensive side of the ball. I 1:31:25.800 --> 1:31:27.920 think the quarterback has to be like a top down 1:31:28.000 --> 1:31:30.960 organizational decision. Yeah, but when you look at some of 1:31:31.000 --> 1:31:35.880 these other players Baker, Jahan Bell, I think it tells 1:31:35.920 --> 1:31:38.559 you how much influenced Alx van Pelt and Ben mcadeu 1:31:38.600 --> 1:31:40.840 had in this draft of like this is how we're 1:31:40.840 --> 1:31:42.920 gonna this is what we're doing offensively, Like this is 1:31:42.960 --> 1:31:45.960 our scheme offensively, this is what we're building the playbook 1:31:45.960 --> 1:31:48.400 out of this. These are the types of skill sets 1:31:48.400 --> 1:31:50.760 that we need. And I think that that tipped the 1:31:50.760 --> 1:31:54.519 scales in a lot of these cases towards a Jalen Polk, 1:31:54.600 --> 1:31:57.840 towards the Javon Baker, towards the Jaem Bell, because those 1:31:57.880 --> 1:32:01.960 players do abc better than the guy that maybe we 1:32:02.000 --> 1:32:03.240 all had rated a little bit higher. 1:32:03.280 --> 1:32:06.000 Again, it's that it's that old belichickism, right, It's not 1:32:06.040 --> 1:32:08.640 about collecting talent, it's about building a team. 1:32:08.840 --> 1:32:10.439 All right, there's the draft. 1:32:10.840 --> 1:32:11.200 We did it. 1:32:13.080 --> 1:32:15.800 With time to spare. Let's answer some emails and some calls, 1:32:15.800 --> 1:32:18.720 and then you can give me your favorite UDFA. All right, Right, 1:32:19.120 --> 1:32:20.200 Todd is in North Carolina. 1:32:20.240 --> 1:32:20.479 What's up? 1:32:20.520 --> 1:32:20.760 Todd? 1:32:22.400 --> 1:32:25.360 Hey, guys, just a quick thing that I'm a little 1:32:25.400 --> 1:32:30.360 concerned about with and just didn't seem all that comfortable 1:32:30.479 --> 1:32:32.920 or effective last year. He was on skates and more 1:32:32.960 --> 1:32:36.320 than a few times. And I know a young quarterbile 1:32:36.320 --> 1:32:38.519 even though veteran quarterback does not like to get pressure 1:32:38.600 --> 1:32:41.560 up the middle. Are you guys concerned it all with 1:32:42.000 --> 1:32:44.160 him a center? And do we have anybody to back 1:32:44.200 --> 1:32:44.760 him up at all? 1:32:45.000 --> 1:32:48.479 Yeah, David Andrews, you're talking about right, Yeah, yeah, Yeah, 1:32:48.720 --> 1:32:51.040 it's a fair question, Todd, thanks for the call. Appreciated 1:32:51.080 --> 1:32:53.599 as always. David Andrews in pass protection took a step 1:32:53.640 --> 1:32:56.360 back last year. There's no doubt about that. Now, the 1:32:56.479 --> 1:32:59.479 question is was he making up for so much what 1:32:59.640 --> 1:33:02.040 was going on at guard on to his left and 1:33:02.080 --> 1:33:04.920 his right that he was just you know, there's just 1:33:04.960 --> 1:33:07.880 too much to cover up. That's definitely possible. You know, 1:33:08.320 --> 1:33:10.479 your the offensive line is a five man unit. It's 1:33:10.520 --> 1:33:12.760 as good as the person next to you. If they're 1:33:12.800 --> 1:33:14.800 better at left guard and better at right guard this 1:33:14.920 --> 1:33:17.960 season next to David Andrews, does he have a much 1:33:18.000 --> 1:33:21.080 better year in pass protection? I think that's definitely possible. 1:33:21.120 --> 1:33:21.880 Yeah, I'm with you on that. 1:33:22.680 --> 1:33:25.320 With that being said, it's on my radar of is 1:33:25.360 --> 1:33:27.760 it start run blocking wise? He was still really good 1:33:28.200 --> 1:33:30.720 pass pro wise, he took a step back. Is he's 1:33:30.720 --> 1:33:34.040 starting to slip a little bit? It's potentially there. We 1:33:34.200 --> 1:33:36.880 mentioned him earlier in the show. They clearly drafted Jake 1:33:36.920 --> 1:33:41.000 Andrews as a long term center replacement for David Andrews. 1:33:41.479 --> 1:33:44.960 So do they have somebody in the building on paper? Yes, 1:33:45.160 --> 1:33:47.080 I don't know if Jake Andrews can play. We saw 1:33:47.160 --> 1:33:48.960 him play for like one and a half games or 1:33:49.000 --> 1:33:50.559 something like that at the end of the year. But 1:33:50.680 --> 1:33:52.719 on paper, yes, they do have somebody that can play 1:33:52.760 --> 1:33:55.960 center long term in Jake Andrews. All Right, a couple 1:33:56.000 --> 1:33:57.000 of the questions here. 1:34:00.080 --> 1:34:00.479 See here. 1:34:03.000 --> 1:34:07.920 Okay, that one's a detailed one. So there's one question 1:34:08.000 --> 1:34:10.240 here about something that I wrote about here. It is 1:34:10.720 --> 1:34:15.519 about if this draft, if Drake May hits, This is 1:34:15.520 --> 1:34:18.400 what I wrote in my recap of the draft. If 1:34:18.439 --> 1:34:21.599 Drake May hits, the draft is a success. Yes, and 1:34:21.960 --> 1:34:24.360 Paul here just wanted to push back a little bit 1:34:24.360 --> 1:34:26.519 on that and say and says, as a draft and 1:34:26.600 --> 1:34:29.479 developed team, if you only hit on one of eight picks, 1:34:29.520 --> 1:34:32.080 then how can it be a success. I just think 1:34:32.080 --> 1:34:35.400 that if you draft Drake May and he's a franchise quarterback, 1:34:35.439 --> 1:34:39.360 he's justin Herbert, Josh Allen, C. J. Stroud, whatever name 1:34:39.400 --> 1:34:42.120 you want to use, I think you'll figure out the rest. 1:34:42.400 --> 1:34:44.200 Yeah, it's not their last draft. I mean, does it 1:34:44.240 --> 1:34:47.040 slow down the process, absolutely, But if you have a 1:34:47.840 --> 1:34:51.400 we just saw what the kind of pretzel you have 1:34:51.439 --> 1:34:53.160 to go into when you need a quarterback. So not 1:34:53.240 --> 1:34:55.240 needing that freeze up a lot more down the road. 1:34:55.720 --> 1:34:58.479 Yeah, A question about dial out free safety. We talked 1:34:58.479 --> 1:35:00.720 about that. I think that's a possibility. I think he 1:35:00.800 --> 1:35:03.760 starts at corner, but I think there is a possibility 1:35:03.800 --> 1:35:09.360 that he could play free safety down the road. Let's 1:35:09.360 --> 1:35:12.880 see what else we got here. There was one other 1:35:12.920 --> 1:35:15.759 good question. See now I'm like losing all these these places. 1:35:17.800 --> 1:35:21.800 Oh okay, this was a question about Leyden Robinson, and 1:35:21.960 --> 1:35:24.040 I think we touched on this a little bit. But 1:35:24.120 --> 1:35:26.439 the question here is just if they saw guard as 1:35:26.439 --> 1:35:31.120 a need, then a you know, why wait so long 1:35:31.200 --> 1:35:33.400 to take a guard and then be also you know, 1:35:33.439 --> 1:35:35.599 why would they see guard as a need. I don't 1:35:35.600 --> 1:35:37.840 necessarily think that they saw guarded as a need. I 1:35:37.840 --> 1:35:40.559 think they saw offensive line as a need in improving 1:35:40.560 --> 1:35:43.240 the offensive line. And I mentioned earlier in the show 1:35:43.680 --> 1:35:46.240 when Troy Franklin went off the board to pick, before 1:35:46.280 --> 1:35:49.280 when Denver traded up into that pick. My guess is 1:35:49.280 --> 1:35:51.360 is that they just took the best player on their board, 1:35:51.439 --> 1:35:53.680 who happened to be Laden Robinson. Well, I don't think 1:35:53.680 --> 1:35:56.320 why was the guard rank so high on their board? Well, 1:35:56.360 --> 1:35:58.519 it's just it's not about positions, right, Like, it's just 1:35:58.560 --> 1:36:01.880 about I think there's a little bit of a factor there, 1:36:02.560 --> 1:36:05.040 not if you're just stacking the board, like if you're 1:36:05.680 --> 1:36:08.479 if you're talking about guys you're targeting right in the draft, 1:36:08.520 --> 1:36:11.280 and that the need obviously is a big play in there. 1:36:11.320 --> 1:36:14.360 But if you're just talking about purely who has the 1:36:14.439 --> 1:36:18.519 highest grade on this entire board, probably not as much. 1:36:18.800 --> 1:36:20.479 I I mean, I wouldn't feel great about it if 1:36:20.479 --> 1:36:21.280 I'm cool strange. 1:36:22.520 --> 1:36:26.679 Yeah, that's that's fair. Okay, this is a good question 1:36:27.160 --> 1:36:32.519 from Mauricio, he asks, And I will fully admit that 1:36:32.640 --> 1:36:34.879 I do not think either one of us are prepared 1:36:34.960 --> 1:36:37.960 to stack these players right now in the twenty twenty 1:36:38.000 --> 1:36:42.599 five draft. But here, here we go, where the draft 1:36:42.720 --> 1:36:45.439 ended three days ago, and people are already asking us 1:36:45.439 --> 1:36:48.519 about the twenty twenty five draft. And I'm here for it. 1:36:48.560 --> 1:36:49.760 I'm ready. I'm ready for it. 1:36:49.960 --> 1:36:52.000 Oh, so you're actually gonna get into the college football 1:36:52.000 --> 1:36:52.639 of it all this year. 1:36:53.400 --> 1:36:54.719 We'll see how the Patriots are doing. 1:36:54.760 --> 1:36:56.519 We might have to get you the video games. You 1:36:56.560 --> 1:36:57.320 can really learn something. 1:36:57.360 --> 1:36:59.200 So like, you know, people, you know, people say that. 1:36:59.360 --> 1:37:01.479 We had somebody that replied to one of my tweets 1:37:01.479 --> 1:37:04.800 today and I was going to referm to you. He said, 1:37:04.800 --> 1:37:06.439 you know, it would be nice to know which games 1:37:06.479 --> 1:37:09.000 I should watch during the college football season to keep an. 1:37:08.960 --> 1:37:10.360 Eye on prospects. We'll get that. 1:37:10.439 --> 1:37:12.320 I gotta admit to you, like I have so much 1:37:12.320 --> 1:37:14.080 to do when it comes to the Patriots when during 1:37:14.120 --> 1:37:15.960 the season and I'm traveling and things like that. 1:37:16.520 --> 1:37:18.479 I leave that to you. The traveling what kills you 1:37:18.520 --> 1:37:20.479 because you need saturdays obviously. 1:37:20.520 --> 1:37:22.439 Yeah, that that that, I leave that to you to 1:37:22.479 --> 1:37:24.000 tell me what I should be watching when it comes 1:37:24.000 --> 1:37:28.000 to college football. But this question, uh from Rizio Mesigo. 1:37:29.000 --> 1:37:32.000 The two tackles that everybody's going to talk about the 1:37:32.000 --> 1:37:34.559 top of the draft are Kelvin Banks junior from Texas 1:37:34.560 --> 1:37:38.080 and Will Campbell from LSU. Those two guys are considered 1:37:38.120 --> 1:37:40.479 to be very, very high end tackle prospects. 1:37:40.560 --> 1:37:42.800 Alabama's got a guy to Tyler Booker, but he's kind 1:37:42.840 --> 1:37:44.479 of like that. Next he's the old. 1:37:44.880 --> 1:37:47.280 And then the other guy is your guy who you've 1:37:47.320 --> 1:37:49.639 been telling me for ten years is going to be good. 1:37:49.600 --> 1:37:51.720 Literally two years because he was a true sophomore last 1:37:51.760 --> 1:37:54.839 year and went off. Luther Burden from Missouri, Luthor Burden receiver. 1:37:55.160 --> 1:37:58.439 I'll give you one more too, yeah, just in case. Uh, 1:37:58.960 --> 1:38:01.600 And people will probably familiar with him. Michigan is a 1:38:01.600 --> 1:38:07.120 corner Will Johnson who dominated during their run life. He 1:38:07.200 --> 1:38:09.479 might have been the best player on that team last year. Yeah, 1:38:09.479 --> 1:38:11.559 and he was a true sophomore. So obviously he wasn't 1:38:11.600 --> 1:38:14.560 in the draft. But you know, obviously we'll see what 1:38:14.800 --> 1:38:17.400 Travis Hunter is gonna be fascinating, Yeah, because what position 1:38:17.479 --> 1:38:18.679 is he going to the draft? As. 1:38:18.920 --> 1:38:21.040 I gotta be honest with you, I have no desire. 1:38:21.080 --> 1:38:24.439 For Travis Hunter. Yeah, he was your favorite player last year. 1:38:24.520 --> 1:38:26.519 I'm not because of the player. I have no desire 1:38:26.560 --> 1:38:28.160 to bring Dion anywhere near this thing. 1:38:28.560 --> 1:38:32.160 All right, Well, I mean I take him as a corner. 1:38:32.200 --> 1:38:34.000 I think he's gonna I don't. I don't need the 1:38:34.120 --> 1:38:36.799 bar ball like up in all all of the Patriots business, 1:38:36.840 --> 1:38:37.400 I don't need it. 1:38:37.600 --> 1:38:41.800 Look, I Will Johnson is depending on what Travis Hunter 1:38:41.880 --> 1:38:44.559 does ends up doing this year and ends up declaring 1:38:44.560 --> 1:38:46.160 ass because he's not gonna play tow ways in the NFL. 1:38:46.160 --> 1:38:49.400 He can't. It's just too physically taxing. He maybe he'll 1:38:49.400 --> 1:38:52.160 be like Marcus Jones. But Will Johnson is probably the 1:38:52.160 --> 1:38:54.839 best corner in this draft. And look if if everything 1:38:54.880 --> 1:38:57.720 behind Gonzo kind of falls out and Jonathan Jones a 1:38:57.720 --> 1:38:59.920 free agent. He's gonna be thirty one and whatever, Like 1:39:00.040 --> 1:39:02.120 we'll be talking about corner is a major need again, 1:39:02.600 --> 1:39:04.880 and Will Johnson will be you know, if they're in 1:39:04.880 --> 1:39:07.680 the top ten, Will Johnson's gonna get a lot of 1:39:07.720 --> 1:39:10.599 talk in terms of the Patriots because he's their kind 1:39:10.600 --> 1:39:11.040 of corner. 1:39:11.120 --> 1:39:15.040 Yeah. So Kelvin Banks and Will Campbell. I haven't studied 1:39:15.040 --> 1:39:17.639 them specifically, but obviously I watched a lot of those 1:39:17.640 --> 1:39:21.080 offenses for the draft this year, with Aden Daniels and 1:39:21.080 --> 1:39:23.479 with the Texas guys and things like that. I think 1:39:23.840 --> 1:39:25.960 the thing that stands out about both of those guys 1:39:26.240 --> 1:39:31.040 is both guys have really good size for the position. Yeah, 1:39:31.120 --> 1:39:33.479 I wouldn't say that either one of them is like, 1:39:33.920 --> 1:39:36.599 you know, super. I think Banks is maybe a little 1:39:36.600 --> 1:39:38.720 bit more athletic, just in terms of like getting out 1:39:38.760 --> 1:39:41.240 of his stance and things like that. If I'm right 1:39:41.280 --> 1:39:43.800 off the top of my head here, how I stack 1:39:43.880 --> 1:39:45.800 them right now is I could not tell you. 1:39:46.080 --> 1:39:50.120 It's irrelevant because we're gonna get so much more information. Yeah, 1:39:50.720 --> 1:39:53.000 ranking them is irrelevant. I also think that they're just 1:39:53.200 --> 1:39:55.200 at this point, it's just here are guys to watch, 1:39:55.640 --> 1:39:58.160 and then you watch them next year. Yeah, so that 1:39:59.080 --> 1:40:01.040 we can rank them and when the time comes. Yeah. 1:40:01.080 --> 1:40:04.880 I also think that it will be good for everybody 1:40:05.120 --> 1:40:08.160 with these two tackles and with other players on these 1:40:08.200 --> 1:40:12.640 two teams to not have such loaded supporting talent, like 1:40:12.680 --> 1:40:15.040 when you have a quarterback like Jayden Daniels. Right, it 1:40:15.200 --> 1:40:18.240 just makes everything better when you have receivers like Texas 1:40:18.240 --> 1:40:20.439 did last year. You know, it makes Quinn Yours and 1:40:20.479 --> 1:40:23.479 everybody look look good. Right, So we'll see what it 1:40:23.520 --> 1:40:26.360 looks like for Texas and Calvin Banks and Quinn Yours 1:40:26.400 --> 1:40:29.960 without Ady Mitchell, without Xavier Worthy, without Jatavian Sanders, without 1:40:30.240 --> 1:40:33.160 Winnington and all these guys. I'd be interesting to see. 1:40:33.400 --> 1:40:36.080 Luthor Burt because he is a pretty good quarterback. Brady Cook. Yeah, 1:40:36.120 --> 1:40:39.280 does that apply or sure? It shouldn't know? He's got 1:40:39.280 --> 1:40:40.680 I'm saying he's good on his own. He doesn't need 1:40:40.720 --> 1:40:42.920 Brady Cook. As much as I like part of me. 1:40:43.000 --> 1:40:44.640 If they did the wait for a quarterback thing, I 1:40:44.680 --> 1:40:46.599 wanted them to take Brady Cook because how fun would 1:40:46.600 --> 1:40:48.320 it be for the Patriots to have a quarterback named 1:40:48.360 --> 1:40:48.920 Brady Cook? 1:40:48.960 --> 1:40:49.439 Oh my god? 1:40:49.479 --> 1:40:50.800 He wears, not that he would hear, but he wears 1:40:50.880 --> 1:40:51.360 number twelve. 1:40:51.400 --> 1:40:53.200 So the biggest thing is, h yeah, he is not 1:40:53.200 --> 1:40:53.880 gonna wear that here? 1:40:54.120 --> 1:40:55.280 You sure, Brady Cook? 1:40:55.560 --> 1:40:57.439 Well, first off, I hope they don't draft You're not 1:40:57.439 --> 1:40:58.360 gonna wear number twelve. 1:40:58.400 --> 1:41:02.360 You don't think, Brady Cook? You just say Brady Cook. Uh. 1:41:02.960 --> 1:41:05.720 I would say. The biggest thing though, is that if 1:41:05.720 --> 1:41:07.640 you had to ask me right now, right today, and 1:41:07.680 --> 1:41:10.320 maybe we might disagree with it on this, maybe because 1:41:10.320 --> 1:41:12.479 you love Luther Burden so much, but if you have 1:41:12.600 --> 1:41:15.360 to ask me right now, right today, left tackle one 1:41:15.520 --> 1:41:18.080 one need for the Patriots next year, and I don't 1:41:18.080 --> 1:41:20.519 think it's particularly close. As much as I love receivers, 1:41:20.560 --> 1:41:22.599 and I think they can use that number one. That's 1:41:22.600 --> 1:41:26.280 the cherry on top for this for this skill group. Hopefully, 1:41:26.560 --> 1:41:30.040 let's hope the J's, which I love the Jays, the Jas. 1:41:30.200 --> 1:41:32.479 Let's hope that those two guys are are good and 1:41:33.160 --> 1:41:35.639 hit in all that kind of stuff, and we'll see 1:41:35.640 --> 1:41:38.320 if they're If they're busts and they're terrible, then yeah, 1:41:38.400 --> 1:41:43.080 receiver becomes a big conversation. But I think drafting a 1:41:43.160 --> 1:41:45.479 left tackle like a Joe All type of left tackle, 1:41:45.479 --> 1:41:47.880 which I is these two guys are in that category. 1:41:47.920 --> 1:41:52.000 From what I've seen. Yeah, Uh, drafting that guy for 1:41:52.120 --> 1:41:54.960 Drake May to protect his blind side for the next decade, 1:41:55.040 --> 1:41:56.439 I think is priority number one. 1:41:56.479 --> 1:41:58.800 I don't disagree, like I wanted them to take a 1:41:58.880 --> 1:42:01.000 left tackle second in this out, and I think we're 1:42:01.040 --> 1:42:04.000 looking at Will Cambon, Kevin Kelvin Banks. But they seem 1:42:04.080 --> 1:42:06.519 to be okay doing left tackle by committee, and it 1:42:06.520 --> 1:42:10.000 wouldn't surprise me if they I would I would go 1:42:10.080 --> 1:42:12.280 left tackle. I'm with you, yeah, But it also really 1:42:12.280 --> 1:42:15.200 wouldn't surprise me if if they went receiver and just 1:42:15.320 --> 1:42:18.439 continue to kind of rotate left tackles through because that's 1:42:18.439 --> 1:42:19.519 what they've been doing for years now. 1:42:19.760 --> 1:42:22.760 Yeah. So Chad in Atlanta emails in and says that 1:42:22.880 --> 1:42:26.040 the quote that Wolfe had the system that I come from, 1:42:26.080 --> 1:42:28.320 we don't talk about x zys slot. We just tried 1:42:28.320 --> 1:42:31.120 to get out of really good receivers and it would 1:42:31.200 --> 1:42:33.599 end up working out for us. He said that worried 1:42:33.640 --> 1:42:36.920 him that they don't. I think that he was lying 1:42:36.960 --> 1:42:39.400 to our faces when he was just hyping up his player. 1:42:39.560 --> 1:42:39.800 Yeah. 1:42:39.840 --> 1:42:42.320 I think when when you look at the way that 1:42:42.360 --> 1:42:45.240 they constructed their picks. We talked about it for a 1:42:45.280 --> 1:42:49.200 long time at the top of the show, I Javon 1:42:49.240 --> 1:42:52.639 Baker and Jalen Polk are completely complimentary players that are 1:42:52.800 --> 1:42:55.240 ones and X ones a Z. Like, I think he's 1:42:55.280 --> 1:42:56.280 full of it when he said. 1:42:56.160 --> 1:42:58.040 That he's just hyping up the guy. He just took 1:42:58.120 --> 1:42:59.960 that's it's that's just playing the game. 1:43:00.200 --> 1:43:03.400 Yeah, I don't think that he ignored that at all. Actually, 1:43:03.439 --> 1:43:05.040 I think he did the opposite. I think that they 1:43:05.600 --> 1:43:08.200 they were very mindful of making sure that it all 1:43:08.200 --> 1:43:11.800 fits together. The other line question here from Andrew is 1:43:11.800 --> 1:43:14.720 about right tackle. It said, you know, last year, right 1:43:14.760 --> 1:43:19.320 tackles are evolving door YadA, YadA, YadA. H how worried 1:43:19.360 --> 1:43:23.720 are we about bold tackle spots? They are gonna play 1:43:23.760 --> 1:43:26.240 mic on wh right tackle. We'll see how it goes, 1:43:26.400 --> 1:43:27.240 but that's the playoff. 1:43:27.240 --> 1:43:28.559 You know what, even if it doesn't work. I think 1:43:28.600 --> 1:43:30.920 Cayden Wallace is a good right tackle. Yeah, he kicked 1:43:30.960 --> 1:43:32.880 Mia w who back inside, and like, I'm not worried 1:43:32.880 --> 1:43:34.559 about that. Maybe it takes him a couple weeks to 1:43:34.560 --> 1:43:36.160 figure it out, but that's kind of what this team 1:43:36.240 --> 1:43:38.600 is at this point. Yeah, Like I'm good with that. 1:43:39.479 --> 1:43:41.160 I just wish they had a real left tackle. 1:43:41.840 --> 1:43:45.160 Another question about twenty twenty five drafts. So I'll just reiterate, 1:43:45.680 --> 1:43:50.080 Will Carambull, Kelvin Banks Junior, Luther and Burnon. Those are Luther, 1:43:50.240 --> 1:43:53.280 sorry stumbled out in that one, Luther Burden, Kelvin Banks Junior, 1:43:53.320 --> 1:43:55.479 Will Campbell. Those are the three guys you guys want 1:43:55.479 --> 1:43:57.120 to watch. Those are the three guys that were gonna go. 1:43:57.200 --> 1:44:00.120 Yeah, when we get closer, I will have you, guys know, 1:44:00.200 --> 1:44:01.719 I'll have that. So when we get to like August, 1:44:01.800 --> 1:44:03.759 I'll start talking about here are the players for Patriots 1:44:03.760 --> 1:44:05.880 fans to watch. So we'll get you, get a little 1:44:05.880 --> 1:44:06.840 bit of sleep, We'll get you. 1:44:07.560 --> 1:44:09.479 I want to end it on this note, though, Christian 1:44:09.479 --> 1:44:14.120 Barmore signs a four year Oh yeah, okay, fine is 1:44:14.160 --> 1:44:16.960 what we do. We do the one UDFA. 1:44:16.760 --> 1:44:19.599 So well, okay, so my favor my favorite is Mikey Victor. 1:44:19.600 --> 1:44:21.280 But there's just so many corners. I don't know how 1:44:21.320 --> 1:44:23.840 it makes the team. Big corner from Alabama State, yea, 1:44:24.680 --> 1:44:27.200 Deshaun Fenwick. They're running back from Oregon State. Yeah, they 1:44:27.320 --> 1:44:29.639 can have a run. That real chance to make team. 1:44:29.720 --> 1:44:32.960 Six foot two, twenty three bowling ball back. He'll compete 1:44:33.000 --> 1:44:34.880 with Kevin Harris for that third running back spot, and 1:44:34.920 --> 1:44:37.680 then Jacob Warren, the tight end from Tennessee. He could 1:44:37.720 --> 1:44:39.200 have a chance to because they don't really have a 1:44:39.200 --> 1:44:41.760 blocking tight end and that's what he is. Yeah, so 1:44:41.920 --> 1:44:43.599 I think those are you look at those two guys, 1:44:43.640 --> 1:44:46.040 John Trey Hunter, those are the guys you're looking at 1:44:46.040 --> 1:44:47.320 to make this team. 1:44:47.200 --> 1:44:49.439 Running back UDFA. Running backs always have a chance to 1:44:49.439 --> 1:44:50.200 make football teams. 1:44:50.360 --> 1:44:52.320 Yeah, and look if they so. I think part of 1:44:52.320 --> 1:44:55.600 the reason Fenwick went undrafted is he he was in 1:44:55.600 --> 1:44:57.439 college for six years. He only had more than hundred 1:44:57.479 --> 1:44:59.960 carries in a season once. He just never really play. 1:45:00.880 --> 1:45:03.679 If they run this preseason, like Bill used to, we're 1:45:03.720 --> 1:45:06.519 gonna see a lot of Deshaun Fenwick. Yeah, so he'll 1:45:06.520 --> 1:45:08.600 give him a real good chance to see what he 1:45:08.640 --> 1:45:08.920 can do. 1:45:09.160 --> 1:45:14.439 Yeah, really quickly before we wrap Christian Barmore four year extension. Obviously, 1:45:14.479 --> 1:45:16.519 this is not what the show today was about, but 1:45:16.840 --> 1:45:20.960 you know, we wanted to get our quick thoughts on this. Personally, 1:45:21.280 --> 1:45:24.360 I just love it for the main reason that this 1:45:24.439 --> 1:45:27.479 is a twenty four year old player who's ascending who 1:45:27.520 --> 1:45:30.360 you're keeping in the in house. And I don't want 1:45:30.360 --> 1:45:35.200 to come off like everything is anti Bill it's just different. 1:45:35.360 --> 1:45:37.200 It doesn't mean that Bill's way of doing things was 1:45:37.240 --> 1:45:42.400 wrong or or you know whatever. It's just different. And 1:45:42.720 --> 1:45:45.120 I think when you look at this draft. My big 1:45:45.160 --> 1:45:47.880 takeaway too from this draft they obviously draft based off 1:45:47.960 --> 1:45:51.200 need on offense, which they should have done. If Bill 1:45:51.280 --> 1:45:53.479 was running this board and we talked about it off 1:45:53.520 --> 1:45:55.759 the air with Johnny Newton, Yeah, if Bill was running 1:45:55.760 --> 1:45:58.920 this board, he would have drafted Christian Barmore's replacement this 1:45:59.000 --> 1:46:02.400 year and what armour walk. He would let Marty Mapu 1:46:02.800 --> 1:46:06.200 take over for Kyle Dugger. He in the long run 1:46:06.400 --> 1:46:09.360 might end up being correct right like they it might. 1:46:09.439 --> 1:46:11.320 Bill might end up being right. I'm not saying that 1:46:11.360 --> 1:46:13.679 he's always wrong about it, but that's what they would 1:46:13.680 --> 1:46:17.439 have done. And I understand why people are like this 1:46:17.520 --> 1:46:19.840 way better. You're just you're keeping guys that you like 1:46:20.200 --> 1:46:23.080 that are good football players, and fans know that fans 1:46:23.080 --> 1:46:24.840 can buy their jerseys and get behind it. I know 1:46:24.880 --> 1:46:27.800 that stuff may be overrated, but it feels good. It 1:46:27.840 --> 1:46:30.280 does feel good to have Barmar around here for the 1:46:30.320 --> 1:46:31.880 next four year, five years, whatever. 1:46:32.040 --> 1:46:34.200 Yeah, And what you want is you want you know, 1:46:34.600 --> 1:46:40.160 the core tenants of a defense are having you know, 1:46:40.479 --> 1:46:42.679 a playmaker, not just a good player, but a playmaker 1:46:42.680 --> 1:46:44.960 at each level. You have Barmore at the first level. 1:46:45.120 --> 1:46:45.360 Yep. 1:46:45.439 --> 1:46:47.600 You locked up Dugger on the third level. 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