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Speaker 1: Welcome to good Game with Sarah Spain where not to

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Speaker 1: be a silly goose, but can someone check the beam?

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Speaker 2: Also hand me like eleven.

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Speaker 1: Dy boxes of tissue because I am not ready to

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Speaker 1: say goodbye to watching Simone Biles to gymnastics. On today's show,

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Speaker 1: We're going to get some great perspective on Olympic pressure

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Speaker 1: from someone who knows it well but isn't currently enduring

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Speaker 1: it three time Winter Olympic medalists and blissfully out of

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Speaker 1: season Jesse Diggins. We'll also conduct some balanced team inspections,

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Speaker 1: mowd the soccer pitches and practice our hammer throw technique,

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Speaker 1: and we'll reveal the name.

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Speaker 2: That you voted on. If we can't wait for you

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Speaker 2: to hear it, it's all coming up right after this

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Speaker 2: welcome back.

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Speaker 1: First things first, our bad Dominica and all seventy two

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Speaker 1: thousand of you who live there.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Sarah, I know you get upset when things hit

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Speaker 3: your ears and you go, oh, that's not quite right.

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Speaker 3: So this is not a dish, but just information. The

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Speaker 3: island nation of Dominika is actually pronounced slightly differently than everybody.

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Speaker 4: Else does it. And that's knowledge I have because I

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Speaker 4: went there one hundred years ago when I was scuba

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Speaker 4: diving a long time ago. Anyways, Dominique is beautiful. It's tiny,

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Speaker 4: but anyways, I just know you've always like to get

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Speaker 4: to the actual information that's real and truthful. So anyways,

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Speaker 4: love the work, love the pod, love everything you're doing, and.

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Speaker 3: Have a great day.

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Speaker 4: Oh my name is Susan. Take care.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Susan for real, y'all. I actually love being corrected

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Speaker 1: because I want to get things right. So always send

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Speaker 1: the email, Always send the voicemail. Keep us honest over here.

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Speaker 2: A good game. And you know what, while.

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Speaker 1: We're correcting mistakes here, I need to once again suggest

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Speaker 1: that Paris should have abandoned their plan to compete in

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Speaker 1: rant I gave last week wasn't for nothing. Things have

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Speaker 1: Belgium's Olympic team was forced to forfeit Monday's mixed competition

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Speaker 1: triathlon after one of its triathletes, Claire Michelle, got sick

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Speaker 1: The Belgian team didn't describe her illness or specifically blame

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Speaker 1: the river, but Belgium newspaperd Standard reported that the triathlete

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Speaker 1: The Belgian teams release said, in part quote, Belgian Triathlon

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Speaker 1: We are thinking of training days that can be guaranteed,

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Speaker 1: competition days and formats that are clear in advance, and

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Speaker 1: circumstances that do not cause uncertainty among athletes, entourage and

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Speaker 2: All right, here's what you need to know today.

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Speaker 1: In three x three basketball, the US started out Monday

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Speaker 1: with a loss in the semi finals, dropping a nail

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Speaker 1: bier to Spain in overtime. But then in the tightly

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Speaker 1: They started the Olympics zero to three, but they walk

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Speaker 1: Germany defeated Spain seventeen sixteen, marking the country's first ever

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Speaker 1: going three to zero in group play. Team USA has

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Speaker 1: now won fifty eight straight games at the Olympics. That's

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Speaker 1: Next up for Team USA a quarterfinal round matchup against Nigeria,

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Speaker 1: some breathing exercises after that balance beam final. Italy's Alitcha

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Speaker 1: And because we hear a good game, are practicing living

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Speaker 1: It originally looked like Childs had finished off the podium,

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Speaker 1: Also perfect watching Simone and Jordan bowing to Brazil's Rebecca

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Speaker 2: Someone on the internet said it simply.

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Speaker 1: mature enough to feel that way about anything I've ever lost.

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Speaker 2: Hasn't happened yet. War Gymnastics, because.

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Speaker 1: We hear a good game, want to remind you that

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Speaker 2: Everybody breathe in and out.

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Speaker 1: We have to tell ourselves, whatever she does next, we

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, on the beach under the Eiffel Tower, the gold

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Speaker 1: In track and field, on Monday, American Valerie Allman defended

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Speaker 1: Finally, we want to shine a light on Afghanistan's Kimia

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Speaker 5: I think this will be dependent on your sport, but

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Speaker 1: I love that's such a good perspective for literally anything,

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Speaker 5: about results. All I was thinking about is my process.

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Speaker 5: How do I ski as fast as possible? And I

438
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Speaker 5: think if I had stopped to think about, oh my god,

439
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Speaker 5: my teammates hopes and dreams from her entire career on

440
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Speaker 5: the line here, I probably would have cracked. But that's

441
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Speaker 5: why I was just focused on how do I ski? Like,

442
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Speaker 5: what technique cues? How do I do this? And so

443
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Speaker 5: I think being incredibly processed, focused and only thinking about

444
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Speaker 5: things that are within your control is so so helpful.

445
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Speaker 5: And like you said, it's for life, not just for

446
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Speaker 5: the game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well you mentioned control though, and I think that's

448
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Speaker 1: part of it too, is like, as the athlete, we've

449
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Speaker 1: been in those positions and all you're thinking about is

450
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Speaker 1: I'm in control of what I'm doing now, and what

451
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Speaker 1: can I control? It's do I do all the things

452
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Speaker 1: I've prepared correctly? Do I put my best effort forward?

453
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Speaker 1: And then as an athlete, you know, sometimes that means

454
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Speaker 1: you win it, sometimes.

455
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Speaker 2: It means you don't.

456
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Speaker 1: When you're watching zero control, zero control over anything, you

457
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Speaker 1: can't do anything but watch and hope, and that feels

458
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Speaker 1: so much more tenuous than when you have the power

459
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Speaker 1: to do it. Even though people who aren't athletes would

460
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Speaker 1: be like, that's crazy. The pressure's on you, but you're

461
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Speaker 1: not thinking about it. You're like, here's what I do,

462
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna I'm gonna do it. I also love

463
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Speaker 1: what you said about the emotions that the male gymnast

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Speaker 1: had for each other.

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Speaker 2: There's a great episode of Welcome to Wrexam.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you watch it, but they get

467
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Speaker 1: into detail about how sports are one of the few

468
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Speaker 1: places where men are allowed to feel all of the emotions.

469
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Speaker 1: We let them cry, we let them hug each other,

470
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Speaker 1: we let them support each other, we let them butt

471
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Speaker 1: slap each other without being weird about it. We let

472
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Speaker 1: them like support and be angry and be sad and

473
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Speaker 1: be defiant and be supportive. Like, it's just really cool

474
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Speaker 1: when we think about the ways that we do limit

475
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Speaker 1: men in ways that we'd often talk about with women

476
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Speaker 1: but don't with men, and how sports is a space

477
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Speaker 1: that we can stop doing that, which I just when

478
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Speaker 1: I was watching that gymnastics team, I was thinking the

479
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Speaker 1: same thing, which is so cool.

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Speaker 5: On that note, I have a question for you. Do

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Speaker 5: you think we allow women to experience the full range

482
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Speaker 5: of emotions in sport?

483
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Speaker 1: Well, I think it depends on who's watching, right I

484
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Speaker 1: was thinking about that with Mikayla.

485
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Speaker 2: Maroney and how she went like viral for being.

486
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Speaker 1: Disappointed in her medal and making a squirmy, you know,

487
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Speaker 1: kind of smirky face, and how when men are disappointed,

488
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Speaker 1: we're like, he's so competitive, he'll settle for nothing but

489
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Speaker 1: the best, and when women do it, we're like, she

490
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Speaker 1: should be grateful that she got a medal, She should smile,

491
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Speaker 1: You should smile more so. I mean, I think there's

492
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Speaker 1: a range of dumb shits and cool people who will

493
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Speaker 1: let any kind of person male, female, non binary be

494
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Speaker 1: the full expression of themselves, and then there.

495
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Speaker 2: Are people who are going to be assholes either way.

496
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Speaker 1: But I do think at least we're really trying to

497
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Speaker 1: acknowledge how we do that to women in ways that

498
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Speaker 1: have changed society, and we're not quite there, I think

499
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Speaker 1: in talking about allowing men to feel those things in

500
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Speaker 1: ways that you know aren't restrictive.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because that it just it made me think a lot,

502
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Speaker 5: like we don't allow men to cry normally, and in

503
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Speaker 5: sport it is okay.

504
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Speaker 2: Even fans don't allow.

505
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Speaker 5: Women to be aggressive competitive, and in sport it's sometimes okay, yeah,

506
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Speaker 5: but not always. And I think it's just fascinating. I

507
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 5: think we have a long way to go in both ye,

508
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 5: in both sides of the equation, like greed to allow

509
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Speaker 5: people to express their full like range of emotions, and

510
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Speaker 5: sports should be a safe place to do that. And

511
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Speaker 5: I think we can still work on that.

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Speaker 2: And so I think absolutely on both sides.

513
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Speaker 5: On both sides, and that's something that the Olympics can

514
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Speaker 5: help with.

515
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Speaker 2: Agreed, because we're all watching it together.

516
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Speaker 1: In your experience at the Olympics, how much do the

517
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: athletes talk to each other either comparing their experience in

518
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Speaker 1: terms of like demands of the sport or timing of

519
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Speaker 1: their events, Like, oh, man, you get to go first

520
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 1: week and then spend the rest of the time partying,

521
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Speaker 1: Or oh, my events last and I have lots of

522
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Speaker 1: time to like get settled and prepare and get on

523
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Speaker 1: the time schedule. Or you got to walk in the

524
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Speaker 1: opening ceremony, Oh I didn't because my event was at

525
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Speaker 1: the same time.

526
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Speaker 2: Like how much is that sort of like comparing, I.

527
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Speaker 5: Mean, to some degree, there's I mean for me anyway,

528
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 5: I can't talk for anyone else, but our sport is

529
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Speaker 5: very interesting because we compete the very first day and

530
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 5: the very last day and many days in between. Right,

531
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Speaker 5: So we have six different events, everything from a sprint

532
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 5: to a marathon, and the marathon's last and the scathons first,

533
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Speaker 5: and so for us a lot of it it's like

534
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Speaker 5: maybe you don't get to go in opening ceremonies if

535
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Speaker 5: you race and compete the next day, and that's for

536
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 5: a lot of athletes. So you know, like I'm not

537
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Speaker 5: the only one in this boat. I'm not the only person.

538
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Speaker 5: So in that way it's helpful to compare, like I'm

539
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Speaker 5: not the only one going through this. Like, yes, I

540
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 5: would love always march and opening ceremonies. It is the

541
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Speaker 5: experience of a lifetime. And I'm glad i went when

542
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Speaker 5: I was young and I could because I probably won't

543
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Speaker 5: be able to do this next Games. But I'm not

544
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Speaker 5: going to be the only one. And at the same time,

545
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 5: you also see athletes being able to go to all

546
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Speaker 5: these different events and cheer, and I just felt happy

547
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Speaker 5: that they were able to do that. On the one hand,

548
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Speaker 5: I felt so lucky that I was able to compete

549
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 5: in so many events. What an absolute gift. And of

550
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 5: course this little part of me is like I would

551
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Speaker 5: love to someday experience the Olympics when I'm not happy

552
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 5: to focus every single second of every single day for

553
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 5: three weeks straight. But I'll get there.

554
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Speaker 2: Someday.

555
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 5: I'll go as a spectator and I will experience it

556
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 5: to my heart's content, and I'll go to every event

557
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 5: and cheer for everyone. And I can have that experience later,

558
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 5: but right now, I have to lock it in, and

559
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 5: I have to lock it in for three weeks straight,

560
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 5: and so I think a lot of it. Instead of comparing,

561
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 5: it's more like, this is just what I.

562
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Speaker 2: Have to do. Yeah, just the reality of it.

563
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: I do love, though, Like your dream is to go

564
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: to the Olympics as a spectator, it's a lot easier

565
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: to do than what you're doing, which most of us

566
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: will dream of and never get to do. You know,

567
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about the post Olympic letdown

568
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: because for people, even when they win, even gold medalists,

569
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: will say that they have this feeling after the Olympics

570
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: that they can't shake. And for those who are, of

571
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: course seconds off of the podium or don't achieve the

572
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 1: things they want, that's more understandable.

573
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Speaker 2: It's still heartbreaking, but understandable.

574
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: But can you explain to us the psychology or help

575
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Speaker 1: us try to understand why even those who achieve their

576
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: dream and win it all still sometimes have that feeling.

577
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, so even when I was a little kid.

578
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 5: You remember, like when you're a little kid and you

579
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 5: go to you like, your best friend's birthday party and

580
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 5: it's a sleepover, and you get really excited and you've

581
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 5: been looking forward to this, and you stay all night

582
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 5: and you're totally jazzed and you're like hyped up on sugar,

583
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 5: and you come home and the next day just kind

584
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 5: of sucks because you're not with all your friends and

585
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 5: you're not doing this cool thing, and the thing that

586
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 5: you've been looking forward to is over. Like my mom

587
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 5: used to call that the post party blues.

588
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, well a lot of people say it for their wedding,

589
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: and I had it with my wedding. You spend a

590
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: year planning and it's so awesome, but then it's over

591
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: and you're like instead of like, oh, wedded bliss, you're like, oh,

592
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: but that's it.

593
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Speaker 2: I don't get to do that again. Probably if you're lucky.

594
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 5: And whether or not it was the you know, your wedding,

595
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 5: best of your life, amazing, everything goes perfectly. You still

596
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 5: have this letdown of like, oh, man, like I just

597
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 5: got to have all of my loved ones right here

598
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 5: and everyone's celebrating and have the best time, and like

599
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 5: now it's over. That's that's challenging. And so imagine you're

600
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Speaker 5: not just you plan a wedding for a year, maybe

601
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 5: two years, but imagine that you have trained four or

602
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 5: more years for one thing, one event, one experience, one Olympics.

603
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 5: So it's not just oh, I've been looking forward to

604
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Speaker 5: this for weeks or I've been training my whole life

605
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 5: to get to this moment, and there's all this hype

606
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 5: and all this pressure in the world is watching and

607
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 5: then it's just like boom, over, gone, done, and there's

608
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 5: this vacuum. And so in many ways, I think we're

609
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 5: very lucky in cross country skiing because we have a

610
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 5: normal World Cup season that we return to and finish up,

611
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 5: so we have a little bit of this this kind

612
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 5: of ramp downwards. It's not just falling off a cliff.

613
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 5: You kind of had this gentle come down of like, Okay,

614
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 5: in many ways that's very challenging because you're pretty burnt out.

615
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 5: But in many ways it's awesome because you're like all right,

616
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 5: I'm going to go back to the World Cup.

617
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: It's another goal, it's another thing to focus on, because

618
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: that's part of it too, I think, is like you

619
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Speaker 1: have something to focus on and work towards, and when

620
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: that's gone, it's like, well, what's.

621
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Speaker 2: My purpose now?

622
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: And I've even heard athletes say, like if I spent

623
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: my whole life, I thought when I won the gold

624
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: it would change me or get rid of my problems.

625
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: And what I realized was being a gold medalist doesn't

626
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: change the other things in my life that I want

627
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: to fix or work on. I've heard a lot of

628
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: athletes talk about that, and so, yeah, I get it.

629
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Speaker 1: I get that letdown is tough. We only have a

630
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: few more minutes, So let's do a quick speed round.

631
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: Favorite Olympic memory from competing.

632
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 5: Oh, I mean, I have to say winning the gold medal, I.

633
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: Mean decent, it sounds decent. Yeah, yeah, Favorite Olympic memory

634
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: watching Oh.

635
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 5: Oh man, there's a lot I gotta say. I think

636
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 5: just being ready to go on deck for the relay,

637
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 5: but watching my teammates, so seeing everyone put their heart

638
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 5: and soul into it, and just knowing like I'm a

639
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 5: part of this, Like I trained with them. I helped

640
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 5: push them and look at them go like I felt

641
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 5: the cool other duckling like watching.

642
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: I love that.

643
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 2: Okay, you have to.

644
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: Start training today to try to compete in the twenty

645
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: twenty eight Summer Olympics. What sport do you have the

646
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: best shot at making it in?

647
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, realistically? Like, is very long distance trail

648
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 5: running a thing? Yet in the summer case, No, I

649
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 5: don't believe.

650
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: So you gotta go marathons, you gotta go. I'm not

651
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: five thousand meters.

652
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 5: Not the faster runner. I guess I would say swimming.

653
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 2: Okay, all right?

654
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: And then last question, we've seen a lot of athletes

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Speaker 1: pin trading. Are there any other traditions that are common

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Speaker 1: for the athletes at the games or like things that

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Speaker 1: we don't see behind the scene that would be like

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Speaker 1: heartwarming about what the athletes do to like memorialize their

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Speaker 1: experience or commemorate I guess not memorialized.

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Speaker 2: It's not dead.

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Speaker 5: The pin trading is so real and they're actually like

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Speaker 5: a currency. People don't know this. You miss a bus,

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Speaker 5: you need to ride, give a volunteer a pin, you'll

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Speaker 5: get there. I'm just saying, like pins are like.

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Speaker 2: A prison, like you want them.

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Speaker 5: But I think one of the things is how people

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Speaker 5: decorate their rooms, because the rooms are usually pretty bland

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Speaker 5: because they're going to renovate and sell them with condos

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Speaker 5: later or something. Right, So I always get pictures of

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Speaker 5: friends and family and have a bunch of cards and

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Speaker 5: posters that you know, like my high school cross country

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Speaker 5: ski team would sign this giant poster and I would

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Speaker 5: bring it to the games and with all these signatures

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Speaker 5: of all these kids, and it would be right above

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Speaker 5: my bed. So you remember who you're racing for and

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Speaker 5: why you've worked so hard. And so I think one

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Speaker 5: of the really heartwarming things that you don't see is

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Speaker 5: the little things like that, like how athletes like take

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Speaker 5: their friends and family with them into the games.

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Speaker 4: Ah.

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Speaker 1: I love that, Jesse. This was such incredible perspective. We

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Speaker 1: can't wait to watch you compete again. Good Luck on

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Speaker 1: the training, good luck on your next season, and thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for spending some time with us.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much to Jesse Diggins for taking the time.

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Speaker 2: We got to take another break. When we return, will

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Speaker 2: reveal your brand new name. Welcome back, friends.

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Speaker 1: I know we've been stringing you along, never calling you

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Speaker 1: by your name, like that friend of a friend that's

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Speaker 1: always around but she never really caught their names. You

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Speaker 1: just say, oh, hey, my guy, we're sup girl, or

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Speaker 1: beg your significant other to just casually introduce themselves in

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Speaker 1: front of you so you can be reminded.

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Speaker 2: So you deserve better, we should call you by your name.

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Speaker 1: We just have to decide on it, and we've been

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Speaker 1: taking our sweet ass time, But we did ask you

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Speaker 1: to vote from some finalists, and I think today's the day.

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Speaker 2: Here's what we gave you to vote on.

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Speaker 1: Good Game Nation GGN for short breakers as in glass

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Speaker 1: ceiling breakers and game breakers, the Spanish Armada shout out

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Speaker 1: the goonies, and then I could just yell, hey you

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Speaker 1: guys at the beginning of every show, okay, decides that's

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Speaker 1: a good thing or not. And slices as in the

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Speaker 1: orange slices you get after a good game. There was

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Speaker 1: a good writing vote too, from at the legend of

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Speaker 1: Vinnie t. He said the handshake line, which I kind

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Speaker 1: of think is cute, Like I'd call y'all the shakes

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Speaker 1: for short shakes and slices.

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Speaker 2: You could tell I like things with a nice little

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Speaker 2: ring to them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you guys did not make this easy because there

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Speaker 1: was no runaway winner from the voting. Based on my

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Speaker 1: best attempt to count up all the votes from email

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Speaker 1: and Twitter and Instagram, Good Game Nation, Spanish Armada, and

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Speaker 1: Slices were pretty much all neck and neck Breakers only

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Speaker 1: got a few votes, So I guess it comes down

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Speaker 1: to us because we still got to vote, Mesh, of

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Speaker 1: those three, who you got?

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Speaker 5: It was tough.

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Speaker 2: It was tough. Thank you for all submissions, But I

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Speaker 2: gotta go slices, y'all, everything good comes in slices. Why

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Speaker 2: not pizza, pie, oranges?

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Speaker 4: Fruit?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 2: All that gotta be slices for me?

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Speaker 7: Love that Alex going with slices, boss Boss, Okay, I

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Speaker 7: like it.

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Speaker 1: I guess all that's left then is my vote. I

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Speaker 1: like Spanish Armada. It's very clever, but I wanted the

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Speaker 1: name to be about the show and not me. And also,

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Speaker 1: what's up Armada? Happy Tuesday just doesn't really roll off

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Speaker 1: the tongue. And then Good Game Nation is cute, but

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Speaker 1: if I shorten it to nation, it sounds like almost

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Speaker 1: political or like a little too severe, and Good Game

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Speaker 1: Nation is very long, and y'all know I like slices,

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Speaker 1: So I think you know where this is going, don't you,

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Speaker 1: my little slices. I have to say that I'm happy

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Speaker 1: about this because the votes were close enough that we

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Speaker 1: could just give it a little nudge in the direction

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Speaker 1: that I wanted. But I know there are way more

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Speaker 1: of you listening than voted on this, So just you know,

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Speaker 1: make sure you're registered to vote in elections that matter,

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Speaker 1: Like if you don't want to be little Slices for life,

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Speaker 1: make sure you're making your voice heard, because I know

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Speaker 1: that on our show in four years we will let

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Speaker 1: you vote again. I can't necessarily say the same for

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Speaker 1: who wins in November, so we'll leave it at that,

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Speaker 1: my little slices. We also asked you for an updated

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Speaker 1: version of bulletin board material for female athletes, and no

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Speaker 1: one topped Pinterest eating good for straight up humor's sake.

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Speaker 1: But I did like at Aaron Woodard's response for modern Times,

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Speaker 1: he said screenshot material, which feels like, basically, sooner rather

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Speaker 1: than later, we will be saying that, like who owns

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Speaker 1: a bulletin board anymore?

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Speaker 2: These days?

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Speaker 1: I feel like screenshot material is just going to become

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Speaker 1: the thing that we say, so thanks for that, Aarin.

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Speaker 1: We also asked you for your favorite Olympic memories from

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Speaker 1: growing up, and you guys delivered. We got some extraordinary

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Speaker 1: folks listening to a good game. That's what I learned

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Speaker 1: from listening to these. Here were a couple that we

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Speaker 1: really like. Check out this one from Elizabeth.

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Speaker 6: Hi.

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Speaker 7: This is Elizabeth from Chicago, and I'm calling regarding the

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Speaker 7: special Olympics moment. The Atlanta US women's soccer team and

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Speaker 7: then subsequently the ninety nine ers are by far my

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Speaker 7: favorite Olympic moment because it totally inspired me to pursue sports.

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Speaker 7: I ended up going and playing with the US national

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Speaker 7: women's tackle football team, winning a world championship, and although

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Speaker 7: that sport is not an Olympic sport, I am so

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Speaker 7: inspired with these games and the excitement for the LA

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Speaker 7: twenty twenty eight games and flag football, the coming an

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Speaker 7: Olympic sport and seeing the opportunity for athletes that have

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Speaker 7: not had that chance. So keep the podcast coming, love

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Speaker 7: it a lot, can't wait for the merch to drop.

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Speaker 7: Have a good one.

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Speaker 1: I love that, Elizabeth, and I want you to know

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Speaker 1: that my sister Katie played women's professional tackle football for

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Speaker 1: two seasons with the Philadelphia Lady Bells, So shout out

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Speaker 1: to my siss. My parents weren't big fans of her

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Speaker 1: after college and after tearing up her body and every

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Speaker 1: other sport, being like, I think I'm also going to

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Speaker 1: play tackle football, but she loved it. She did not

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Speaker 1: go to the US national women's tackle football team. That

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Speaker 1: is very impressive. So congrats to you, Elizabeth. We love

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Speaker 1: that that kind of amazing moment in your life got

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Speaker 1: inspired by watching the Olympics. We also love Kelsey, who

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Speaker 6: Hi, Sarah, this is Kelsey calling from Alexandria, Virginia. Love

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Speaker 6: the podcast. I remember watching Olympics in two thousand and

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Speaker 6: eight in my little red, white and blue le had

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Speaker 6: heard so well. I just you remember when I went

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Speaker 6: back to school that fall, my second grade teacher was

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Speaker 6: asking a spout, you know our favorite moments in the summer,

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Speaker 6: and I told him was watching Sean Johnson win gold

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Speaker 6: on bean and he was like, is that a boy?

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Speaker 6: Who is that? And I was so shocked to set like,

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Speaker 6: how could you not know who she was? I had

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Speaker 6: did gymnastics for a while and yeah, just just straight

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Speaker 6: Olympic memories. Thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: That's the Sean Johnson to you, teacher. Thank you, Kelsey,

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