Speaker 1: You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles. Well, James McDonald, Regie
Speaker 1: Right Junior and Allen Tomanso on the Digital Soapbox Network.
Speaker 1: A material witness on an aggregated battery, I was a
Speaker 1: hang gun and um they believe this might be in
Speaker 1: retaliation to her testimony. Welcome to another episode of The
Speaker 1: Gangster Chronicles. My name is Alex Alonso. You meet may
Speaker 1: be aware of my platform, Street Gangs dot Com a
Speaker 1: k a. Street TV, where I interview gang members, former
Speaker 1: and current hip hop artists, rappers, authors, entertainers and other influencers.
Speaker 1: And I'm hearing my two co hosts and Big and
Speaker 1: we got Big James coming to us all the way
Speaker 1: from down Under in Australia and Reggie Right Juniors right
Speaker 1: here next to me. And I want to also remind
Speaker 1: you guys to check out Reggie Right Junior on Bomb
Speaker 1: First b O m B one st. He does a
Speaker 1: live show every Tuesday at seven pm Pacific Standard time.
Speaker 1: And don't forget to go out there and get James
Speaker 1: is Um death Row t shirts which are available through
Speaker 1: the Bomb First Patreon page. Right, yep James and give
Speaker 1: him that number where they can hit you up hit
Speaker 1: you up to order him, because James got a phone
Speaker 1: number now that he wants people to call him in
Speaker 1: and get a hold to him. H nine O nine
Speaker 1: eight zero zero six four oh four. Hit me up.
Speaker 1: You you tell me what you want and I have
Speaker 1: it out for you the next day and you would
Speaker 1: get it the next day two days after that. So
Speaker 1: hit me up, let me know what size for color.
Speaker 1: And I also got other other designs in the making,
Speaker 1: so be waiting for that. And uh, you'll see what
Speaker 1: I got going on. And and just all your shirts.
Speaker 1: And I appreciate everybody that ordered the shirt. The number
Speaker 1: is nine O nine eight zero zero six four and
Speaker 1: tell him the amount and most of the money going
Speaker 1: to Well the Manage thirty five bucks the Church of
Speaker 1: all the all the proceeds is going to all the
Speaker 1: grand kids that that you know of all these guys
Speaker 1: that lost their lives and the guys that don't have
Speaker 1: grandchildren are kids. We're gonna donate to a charity. So
Speaker 1: either way, somebody is getting something from these guys. So
Speaker 1: order your T shirts and let's keep it going. And
Speaker 1: he also put in five dollars aside for marrying ship
Speaker 1: night for those of you that, uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: want to support him and help him out. And is
Speaker 1: that number also linked to your PayPal James, Yes, directly
Speaker 1: to the papal. Just just call that number. A lot
Speaker 1: of people have been using it so far, and those
Speaker 1: guys that honestly tell you they got their church who
Speaker 1: right away, and I want to keep it going that way.
Speaker 1: I want to keep it going to bomb first so
Speaker 1: I don't get backed up with the shows. And I
Speaker 1: want to also let everybody in Australia know that, uh,
Speaker 1: Nick Noonan Newton Boyd Promotions Promotions. If you hit us
Speaker 1: up on the Facebook page Newton Boyd Promotions, you can
Speaker 1: actually put your orders in there to the our Australian
Speaker 1: listeners out there and we can get the shirts distributed
Speaker 1: through Australia. Okay, that sounds great. Um. I just want
Speaker 1: to remind everybody this is episode eighteen and if you're
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Speaker 1: and Spotify including radio dot com. So before we start
Speaker 1: the show, I wanna listen to what James has to
Speaker 1: say about his trip so far and what's been going
Speaker 1: on out there in Australia. James, Oh, Man, it's it's
Speaker 1: been lovely, uh since I stepped off the plane. Man,
Speaker 1: the hospitality, the the love I've been getting from these
Speaker 1: people in Australia. Man, it's just off the chain. Man,
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. Um, it's not a day. Every day I've
Speaker 1: been here, I haven't had to spend a time with
Speaker 1: my money. You know, these guys, you know, I meet
Speaker 1: him and and I come here with American money and
Speaker 1: these guys giving me cash out, they pocket One guy
Speaker 1: gave me a hundred bucks of his money. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I can just you know, do
Speaker 1: me and uh everything. You know, I've just been appreciating,
Speaker 1: you know, the shows. You know, I got people crying
Speaker 1: out here, you know what I'm saying, listening and send
Speaker 1: that they loved, uh, the flat interviews and man, it's
Speaker 1: just been it's just been wonderful. Man. I wish I
Speaker 1: would have came down there with you. Oh, Man, I
Speaker 1: wish I wish everybody can experience Australia. Australia is the
Speaker 1: place to go, man. And and I had no clue,
Speaker 1: and man, I you know, it's I'm just glad that
Speaker 1: that I was chosen to come down here and and
Speaker 1: and experienced this. You know, every show has been lovely. Man.
Speaker 1: My first show we so fifty five shirts. The next
Speaker 1: show were so thirty five. So it's it's just been lovely. Man.
Speaker 1: You know, I was only charging out then he ran out,
Speaker 1: then I ran out, and and you know it's so
Speaker 1: crazy because every show, Man, you know, I ain't never
Speaker 1: in my life signed autographs. Man, I ain't never in
Speaker 1: my life had people standing in line just to shake
Speaker 1: my hand and new mom James, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And it was it's a totally different experience from from
Speaker 1: where I'm from to be here in Australia and just
Speaker 1: get that love from everybody all the way around. How
Speaker 1: they're treating grat hating out there, beautiful, beautiful, pretty much
Speaker 1: the same experience. Man. We through this whole tour. Man,
Speaker 1: everybody has been treating us like man. I never felt
Speaker 1: like a king, and I can use that word loosely. Man.
Speaker 1: They it's just too much love about here, you know.
Speaker 1: And you know it's crazy because you know, they don't
Speaker 1: have guns out here. They they drink and fight. But
Speaker 1: I haven't seen no animosity. And you see, I haven't
Speaker 1: seen these people arguing. Uh. One guy last night in
Speaker 1: the show, Uh, we sat out and talking. He wrapped
Speaker 1: his ass off of me about about fifteen minutes and
Speaker 1: then the comings side the show and he just loud.
Speaker 1: So he got up and walked to wind. They took
Speaker 1: him outside with no problem. But he was just being
Speaker 1: cool and and you know, he was drinking, So I
Speaker 1: was cool with that. Um, I've been following you on
Speaker 1: Instagram and I've seen you've been drinking on beer all
Speaker 1: of shoes. What's up with that? What's up with that?
Speaker 1: And that night, I forget what they call that. That's
Speaker 1: cool a shoe the shoeing, and they said, I say, okay,
Speaker 1: let's do it shooting. I ain't knowing what the hell
Speaker 1: they're talking about. They come back with my beer and
Speaker 1: they had their beer and they started then listen their shoes,
Speaker 1: say what they do with it? He said, this is
Speaker 1: the shoe he made. I'm not going to drink out
Speaker 1: my damn. You know how long I've been walking around me.
Speaker 1: But man, this man, I I told him, Man, I'm
Speaker 1: pumping up Australia one hunter. Man. I would love to
Speaker 1: come back here, you and the air, the beaches. Man.
Speaker 1: If y'all see the pictures I post. Man, it's so
Speaker 1: beautiful at him man and man, I am fortunate to
Speaker 1: see it and tell everybody back there. You know, man,
Speaker 1: the way these people get along with each other. Man
Speaker 1: while we came, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, So,
Speaker 1: so those of y'all want to see some pictures before
Speaker 1: James get back. He eve been real, um even really
Speaker 1: active on his Instagram page, were posting and our boy
Speaker 1: Nick None uh he also been posting on his Instagram
Speaker 1: page and a shout out to him. He's the one
Speaker 1: that made it happen for my boy James and Greg
Speaker 1: Hatings and put it together on None Productions. Um, he's
Speaker 1: here as well, and we're gonna let him chime in
Speaker 1: and promote his Instagram page James Instagram page. And then
Speaker 1: for those of you that's on YouTube. Y'all go to
Speaker 1: bomb first and we just put up a little clipp
Speaker 1: it like a seven minute clipping showing y'all, uh the
Speaker 1: vineyard and some of the hatties and all of that
Speaker 1: that's been hanging around James. So Nick, we'll tell us
Speaker 1: James and your Instagram peace or people can check in
Speaker 1: on that. Yeah, So A boy Promotions. The Night with
Speaker 1: Great Katie is the is the Instagram page and also
Speaker 1: the Facebook page. But I just want to give a
Speaker 1: big shout out to Alex Alonso and yourself for having
Speaker 1: me on the show back in May. You're one of
Speaker 1: the first guys that went out of your way to
Speaker 1: put me on your platform, not only to talk about
Speaker 1: this show for the American people, but also on a
Speaker 1: worldwide We've done a very um big job out here
Speaker 1: to really promote you guys your podcast. But your podcast
Speaker 1: is fantastic and as James with a Green last night,
Speaker 1: we had people from the audience, didn't we James that
Speaker 1: we're talking about the podcast. They love it. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, anything that I can do in the future
Speaker 1: to support this fantastic podcast, I'm going to do it
Speaker 1: for you and Alex and obviously street TV and anything
Speaker 1: because it's a bright it's a great community movement and
Speaker 1: it can be broken off from the soa many white
Speaker 1: and with night short at every show that we're really
Speaker 1: given up to Alex along time when The Gangster Chronicles
Speaker 1: poadcast with Vicky Virginia and James McDonald. Yeah, I've had
Speaker 1: a lot of those guys know that they want to
Speaker 1: know the culture and the game culture to go to
Speaker 1: the street g V Alex. So you might be getting
Speaker 1: Australia's tuning in because they want to hear the story.
Speaker 1: They want to hear our story on how we we
Speaker 1: survived and and the ship that we go to. So
Speaker 1: I told him about Joe Joe Show and they was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we definitely gotta go and see because man, definitely what's
Speaker 1: going on in our world. They are so intrigued appreciate
Speaker 1: that I had. I had people crying, um you know
Speaker 1: that saw the Black the Black interviews, and man, it
Speaker 1: kind of called me off going and I was overwhelmed
Speaker 1: that you know, these people are really in tune to
Speaker 1: you know, how we live and they want to know
Speaker 1: the studies about what's going on and and you know,
Speaker 1: how do we survive that on the daily when they
Speaker 1: don't have to go through what we go through, you know,
Speaker 1: every day. So man, it was, it was man, it was,
Speaker 1: it was beautiful. I wish I was here. Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I heard you had a love hate relationship going on
Speaker 1: out there. Tell us a little bit about that. God
Speaker 1: damn ch it's one lady in the show. She uh.
Speaker 1: We were taking questions and she had a question, so
Speaker 1: she she pretty much raised her hand when somebody else
Speaker 1: was going there. But I told her, go ahead, answer
Speaker 1: your question. And the first thing she said, Okay, you're
Speaker 1: a coup and you're a fucking nigger. Oh the crowd
Speaker 1: went crazy like wow, did she really fucking say nigger?
Speaker 1: So I kind of like put the mic down and
Speaker 1: just like oh my god, and I had to take it.
Speaker 1: I had to take a step back. So I said
Speaker 1: the mike down and was walking away. I turned around
Speaker 1: and here here she'd come running out to me. So
Speaker 1: I run around the building and people laughing like I mean,
Speaker 1: I played it all like you know, it really didn't
Speaker 1: bother me, and you know, everybody started laughing when I
Speaker 1: ran from her. So I go out and smoke a
Speaker 1: cigarette and here she comes so basically she had a
Speaker 1: she had four kids by and by an African American,
Speaker 1: well a guy from Africa, and you know, these are
Speaker 1: the things that she you know, she says, she called
Speaker 1: her son, Sir Sun was there really hyped up and
Speaker 1: and and loved the two parts Biggie studies and she said,
Speaker 1: come in, my nigga, and it was it was like wow.
Speaker 1: So when what bastically happened is UH nickname put her out.
Speaker 1: She was she was drunk and UH put her out.
Speaker 1: And then at the end of the day, I mean,
Speaker 1: people was just amazed. I thought that I was going
Speaker 1: to really trick man. I'm straight. And you know who
Speaker 1: I blame for for that. I bring. I blame Proof
Speaker 1: and the guys from D twelve for that because they
Speaker 1: allowed Eminem to use that word. Very good point, very
Speaker 1: good point. And so people think it's susceptible. And that's
Speaker 1: just a word for some reason that people other than black.
Speaker 1: We don't even put the e r at the end.
Speaker 1: But that's that's just a word that can't be used.
Speaker 1: I don't care how cool you are, how much you love,
Speaker 1: if you have kids, you married to a black man
Speaker 1: and all of that. That's this derogatory word for our
Speaker 1: our culture, for for whatever being a black American. So
Speaker 1: my question, my question to Nick would be, is I
Speaker 1: how is that word used or for black Australians? How
Speaker 1: do they accept that word over there? And and that
Speaker 1: was the big thing in Australia. We don't tolerate that
Speaker 1: at all. We were very very surprised we haven't had
Speaker 1: it in our last two shows that the fact that
Speaker 1: it came out. She was just very very drunk, and
Speaker 1: it just shows you that I think that could happen
Speaker 1: anywhere in the world, Reggie, and that's something we need
Speaker 1: to work on the different cultures. And that well, it
Speaker 1: doesn't seem and I talked to James about this off
Speaker 1: record of off air. It doesn't seem like she was
Speaker 1: malict about it. I think she would happen. I learned
Speaker 1: a big lesson here man. And when she said that
Speaker 1: I didn't have to get mad. The Australian people was
Speaker 1: the people in the audience was mad. And those people,
Speaker 1: it's like they all took up from me and said,
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about it. We got it.
Speaker 1: And and and I just you know, I looked at
Speaker 1: the ground and when people were just standing there like
Speaker 1: really fucking mad at her. It was I ain't got
Speaker 1: the same nothing. I ain't even got to come out
Speaker 1: of character. These people handled that for me, and and
Speaker 1: and and that was my my justification. I didn't have
Speaker 1: to say ship man. And that's what I mean when
Speaker 1: I say beautiful people. Man. You know back home, you know,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have matter. I didn't had to react to that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but no, they they reacted that for me. And and
Speaker 1: that showed me right there the character and and how
Speaker 1: these people really are. And it's some lovely people down there, man,
Speaker 1: and I and I just gotta stress that. And I'm man,
Speaker 1: I'm having a great time. I'm having a great time.
Speaker 1: All right, James Loum. We're gonna get into a couple
Speaker 1: of topics here, and uh, even though you're all the
Speaker 1: way in Australia, we're gonna, you know, include you in
Speaker 1: on this conversation because we can't really do the show
Speaker 1: without you. But yeah, y'all can do the show without me. Um,
Speaker 1: y'all got y'all, got y'all here is on y'all show
Speaker 1: the Man. And I just knew y'all was gonna run
Speaker 1: with this without me. And then here we go again.
Speaker 1: You know, my brother's black home. Want to do the
Speaker 1: show with me? We're going to together. And I love
Speaker 1: this ship, man, I love that ship. When we got
Speaker 1: the technology over here to to to connect your call
Speaker 1: into the studio, so um, thanks to the to the
Speaker 1: engineers here they were able to make it happen. And
Speaker 1: thank the Nick for giving us that phone bill. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let you guys continue on thank the Alexton all
Speaker 1: right now, before we get into our first topic, I
Speaker 1: just wanted to let everyone know that O. J. Simpson
Speaker 1: is at eight hundred and sixties six thousand followers on Twitter.
Speaker 1: And we've been talking about O Jay on and off
Speaker 1: for the last few episodes, but he's approaching a million guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought he would have been every by now. But
Speaker 1: has he been active? You know, he just posted something
Speaker 1: twenty minutes ago, another video. I haven't had a chance
Speaker 1: to listen to it, but you know, he's not a
Speaker 1: serial poster, but he's definitely keeping his Twitter account active. Well,
Speaker 1: O J. If you want to, if you want to
Speaker 1: get some views right quick, only they have to do
Speaker 1: to say something about Ron Goldman and then they get up,
Speaker 1: They get up or he can just go on his
Speaker 1: daughter's podcast, which is it. Yeah, because he posts videos,
Speaker 1: So he does these selfie videos so you know it's him,
Speaker 1: or he'll have someone holding the camera recording him. So
Speaker 1: he's actually doing videos and posting them. He just posted
Speaker 1: a video, uh, twenty two minutes ago. He gotta be
Speaker 1: you know, he gotta be a little p g because
Speaker 1: you know he's still on probation and paroles, so you
Speaker 1: know they'll they'll bring him in for if he gets
Speaker 1: too radical. Yeah, I think he should just just relax. Man.
Speaker 1: He at the point where he shouldn't even want to
Speaker 1: be on so media. Yeah, he shouldn't want to be
Speaker 1: doing ship, seen doing ship. I think you should just
Speaker 1: don't live by the days doing him and just mindlyn business.
Speaker 1: And you know what, I guess that's the way of him,
Speaker 1: you know, just being O. J. Simpson. Well, he's still
Speaker 1: got to keep the brand alive because there is still
Speaker 1: value to the O. J. Simpson name, even though he's
Speaker 1: a quote unquote an alleged double murderer. Um, there's still
Speaker 1: a value to the O. J. Simpson name. So I'm
Speaker 1: sure as people are saying, hey, you know, be somewhat
Speaker 1: active on social media. He's not alleged. He has been
Speaker 1: found innocent. You're correct, that's uh, but you know, that's it.
Speaker 1: That's a debate that we're probably gonna have for the
Speaker 1: rest of our lives. Is really innocent? Uh? And for
Speaker 1: the record, I believe he's guilty. Something came out recently.
Speaker 1: I didn't read it where there was some overwhelming evidence
Speaker 1: they trying to say the Sun was the suspect. Hey,
Speaker 1: my father told me that Jason was suspecting the one
Speaker 1: back in ninety four when he got arrested. They was
Speaker 1: said that his dad, he did it with his dad.
Speaker 1: But I mean all of that, all of that, like,
Speaker 1: he got found not guilty, So everybody in the emergence,
Speaker 1: everybody at home should be like, man, Okay, he got
Speaker 1: found not guilty. So why not leave it at that,
Speaker 1: and and and and just move on. White America doesn't
Speaker 1: want to leave it alone, James, I know, because because
Speaker 1: he killed the white woman. Yeah. When the last time
Speaker 1: we talked about the guy Zimmerman, I'm talking talking about him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well there was no question, but he did he killed
Speaker 1: Travan Markin. You know, even Reggie just said he he
Speaker 1: thinking's guilty. What does it matter. He got found not guilty,
Speaker 1: so let's go by. Let's go by that, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But in the minds of everybody else,
Speaker 1: they're gonna say he's guilty because they truly believe he's guilty,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But but he got found
Speaker 1: not guilty in a court, in the court, so that
Speaker 1: makes me miligant. No, it don't. He got found uh guilty,
Speaker 1: found reliable for her death? How can you be liable
Speaker 1: for somebody's definitely not guilty up to death because one
Speaker 1: is a criminal case and the other is a civil case.
Speaker 1: So they're using two different standards. Yeah, and that's a shame,
Speaker 1: I think. Of course, we all know in the criminal
Speaker 1: case you have to have a unanimous agreement with the jury.
Speaker 1: In a civil case, you just need a majority of jurors.
Speaker 1: I thought it was nine or eight. Yeah, nine. And
Speaker 1: then also in the criminal case, the standard is beyond
Speaker 1: a reasonable doubt, and in the civil case to the
Speaker 1: standard is beyond the preponderance of evidence, which is a
Speaker 1: lower standard. So it's easier to find someone guilty and
Speaker 1: civil court than it is in criminal court is a
Speaker 1: terrible large But oh, Jay is never gonna pay that
Speaker 1: thirty three million. Oh, Jay, he ain't got the money doing.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's got the money. But even if
Speaker 1: he did, well, he has property, but he moved his
Speaker 1: property to the state of Florida. And the state of
Speaker 1: Florida protects property. California doesn't protect your property. That's why
Speaker 1: he moved to Florida. Well, that and he can live
Speaker 1: off of hisar a month retirement from the NFL and
Speaker 1: they can't touch his retirement. They cannot touch that. And
Speaker 1: so hey, you know, you can just get him a
Speaker 1: moderate house and play golf every day. And that's what
Speaker 1: he's doing. A good A good one, ja. But I
Speaker 1: think he you know, I'm like this, all of this
Speaker 1: ship you've been through, and you still want to be
Speaker 1: you still want to want to be in the public. Guy,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think you should. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: you you did this in Vegas and you and you
Speaker 1: went to jail and you did time and in prison. Boy,
Speaker 1: so when you come home, man, wouldn't you think that
Speaker 1: that you would just lay low and kicked back and
Speaker 1: and and not want to be seen in anything or
Speaker 1: nobody to even think of your name. Let O. J.
Speaker 1: Simpson rest And that's why I think he should have been. Well,
Speaker 1: motherfucker's mad just hearing his name. Well, only half of
Speaker 1: America is mad at here in his name. The other
Speaker 1: half doesn't care, so he has at least half support.
Speaker 1: When when when did uh blacks become half America? We
Speaker 1: onlytent you're right, but not all whites. Not all whites
Speaker 1: are against the jas A blacks and four old. But
Speaker 1: when you look at it, when you do polls on it,
Speaker 1: it's usually fifty fifty believe he's murdered. He's guilty. In
Speaker 1: the time after that Rodney King verdict, and we were
Speaker 1: just feeling like we were black folks was getting um
Speaker 1: the raw deal or the short end of the stick.
Speaker 1: Let OLJ do that bullshit now. And he wins his
Speaker 1: trial and then he go to Vegas on some some
Speaker 1: gangs to ship. Come on, man, it's time to sit
Speaker 1: Joe last down. I like, I like oh J, but
Speaker 1: come on, man, we need to start making sense of
Speaker 1: our own ship. Well, eventually he's gonna reach that million.
Speaker 1: He needs about a little more than about a hundred
Speaker 1: hundred thirties four thousand or a hundred thirties six thousand
Speaker 1: more followers. Hey, eight hundred thousand plus followers is not
Speaker 1: no joke though, and just a very short period. So
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna try to figure out a way to
Speaker 1: monetize his followers and and do something to benefit him financially. Well,
Speaker 1: you better put in one of his kids name. Yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely all right. So, um, let me get to one
Speaker 1: of the first questions of this episode. Uh, the Realist,
Speaker 1: the producers the Realist. Someone wants to know, did the
Speaker 1: Realist ever put vocals on any of Tupac songs, Reggie
Speaker 1: or James? Do you know anything about the Realist? Well,
Speaker 1: I know about the Realist, but finish wise in the
Speaker 1: music that he did, I think better elaborate on, you know,
Speaker 1: on that, Uh, the Realism. The Realist for those of
Speaker 1: y'all that don't know who that is. He was an
Speaker 1: artist on death Row at the Tupac Die Uh I
Speaker 1: got signed about ninety seven sometimes, and he has a
Speaker 1: voice that's kind of unique, that sounds uh like pox
Speaker 1: like Tupacs not not. So there's always been speculation in
Speaker 1: the community that we were allowing the Realists to uh
Speaker 1: make tracks are our add to Tupac music. He was
Speaker 1: an artist, not a producer. I wanted to correct you
Speaker 1: on that, Alex, but he um Um. There's a couple
Speaker 1: of songs that were needed to be made radio versions
Speaker 1: that I would now uh contest to video Unconditional Love
Speaker 1: that we did to make it sound radio friendly, where
Speaker 1: we may have taken a curse word out and put
Speaker 1: in a cleaner, cleaner word, and the cleaner word would
Speaker 1: have came from the realist. Wow. Has has this ever
Speaker 1: been divulged ever before? Wow? You are giving us something
Speaker 1: that the world has never heard before. Now why has
Speaker 1: that been hidden for so long? Is there some sort
Speaker 1: of liability to put someone else's voice in the song
Speaker 1: and represented as well? It just didn't make didn't seem
Speaker 1: authentic to the you know, the ADVIC TUPAC listener. But
Speaker 1: but all we did was uh allow it to be
Speaker 1: a clean version for a video Unconditional Love. So are
Speaker 1: there parts where he put in more than the word verse?
Speaker 1: Perhaps a word a word, a curse word was taken
Speaker 1: out and a clean word was probably put there. That
Speaker 1: is interesting. More than one time. The only one I
Speaker 1: can remember that I can think I was Unconditional Love
Speaker 1: was the video that he appeared in. Um simulating the
Speaker 1: look like Tupac in the video. So over the years
Speaker 1: go ahead. But no, he didn't know. He didn't know
Speaker 1: him in the casino. Uh, on the casino and he
Speaker 1: heard him and he rapped for him, and he he
Speaker 1: liked him, and he uh he was you know, told
Speaker 1: us and gave the number and we eventually hooked up
Speaker 1: with him later after Tupac thew But they did meet
Speaker 1: each other once in the casino in Vegas. So is
Speaker 1: that the reason why the Realist came to Death Row
Speaker 1: was from that meeting at the casino? Initially, Wow, that's
Speaker 1: even he just bumped into the all and said, Hey,
Speaker 1: I rapped. That happens every day and uh, but for
Speaker 1: the follow up to be now you're at Death Row
Speaker 1: hanging out, that's a huge accomplishment. Fan. Yeah, we did
Speaker 1: something that uh to talent talented artists, excuse me that
Speaker 1: we failed. We failed their careers. To be honest, the
Speaker 1: Realist was one because other than that, he was a
Speaker 1: talented rapper and we tried to have him being like Tupac.
Speaker 1: And there was another rapper by the name of y G. D.
Speaker 1: We eventually called him top Dog and we and he
Speaker 1: sounded like Snoop Dogg. He don't want to did this
Speaker 1: song going back to Kelly when he was just in
Speaker 1: Biggie for coming back to Kelly? And those are two
Speaker 1: talented young man that that careers got fleshed down the
Speaker 1: drain because the community or the industry wasn't ready for
Speaker 1: sounding likes. Now, did the realists ever do a demo?
Speaker 1: Did he have a demo? Did he have any recorded songs? Oh?
Speaker 1: He did several songs on Death Row, several songs on
Speaker 1: the Chronic Uh two thousand, on the Gang related soundtrack
Speaker 1: on UM all post Tupac all post Tupac. Why why
Speaker 1: couldn't he just continue his career in the later two
Speaker 1: thousand's and just signed with someone else or he did
Speaker 1: independent artists? He did? I signed you with another rate
Speaker 1: once I left that row? What a record company called
Speaker 1: to that entertainment? What? I did some music with him?
Speaker 1: And but I think, um, he's a hell of a
Speaker 1: still a hell of u um writer and knows the
Speaker 1: music business a lot. We just unfortunately um messed up
Speaker 1: his name by making him a sound of like. And
Speaker 1: it's something that already always regretted that we did to him.
Speaker 1: So over there, go ahead, James go ahead, But people
Speaker 1: didn't know that that Joel was using him for that.
Speaker 1: So how did they know that was using him because
Speaker 1: not know that's just one incident. But you hear his
Speaker 1: whole album or his whole songs that he did, um,
Speaker 1: people didn't like that. It's not I mean he did
Speaker 1: complete songs that um some people would think it was
Speaker 1: Tupac and that wasn't deliberate. He just that's just how that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't it delivered it a deliberate act.
Speaker 1: And there was a guy from Compton that actually sounded
Speaker 1: his name was black. He sounded just like Biggie. Remember
Speaker 1: this rapper name Black wasn't black. It was sounded just
Speaker 1: like wasn't he kind of he got a little chance.
Speaker 1: He did a single. I believe he had something to
Speaker 1: come out. Yeah, I don't think his name was blacked
Speaker 1: up and I knew he was talking about so the realists.
Speaker 1: Never has done interviews where he revealed, oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: replaced a couple of curse words on a POC song
Speaker 1: before he stayed quiet over the years. Yeah, why's why
Speaker 1: is that? He? I mean, we told you not to
Speaker 1: talk about it, and now I'm up here and running
Speaker 1: my big mouth and talked about it. Well, I thought, hey,
Speaker 1: whoever asked this question? I wish I saved the guy's name.
Speaker 1: I guess he was onto something asking if the realists
Speaker 1: ever put vocals on a POC song vocals a word? Well,
Speaker 1: if you hear that he put a word, then you're
Speaker 1: thinking maybe there's more than Why would I tell you
Speaker 1: for that? I would have kept denying it. Okay, So
Speaker 1: now if the realist wants to come out and talk on,
Speaker 1: and he can talk on and I guess it's been
Speaker 1: what twenty plus years? Anyway, let's move on. Let's move on.
Speaker 1: Now he's helping your nephew right now, writing in the
Speaker 1: studio with him helping him do some stuff and which
Speaker 1: one little Timmy Roue Yeah, okay, and he actually did
Speaker 1: a video with him moving there by right correct. Very talented,
Speaker 1: you mean, he just he's not old. He's forty and
Speaker 1: that's senior citizen. But the boy looked with his body
Speaker 1: is I mean, he still looked good, you know, But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he have to be a mentor. Now, how
Speaker 1: many over forty rappers could actually put out a hit?
Speaker 1: How many has are? How many could how many haven't could?
Speaker 1: We could put name them on one? Yeah, jay Z's one.
Speaker 1: Maybe ice Cube was another. But yep, that's true. But
Speaker 1: you said put out one hit recently. I think method
Speaker 1: Man could put out a hit. That's four. I don't
Speaker 1: think so. I think l L was done. I've heard
Speaker 1: his last album. There was nothing on that album. M
Speaker 1: can get off. D X is done. He just did
Speaker 1: a show. I saw it with someone and that was
Speaker 1: over at the game. And when the game was that
Speaker 1: at Long Beach? Now, so what were they were outside?
Speaker 1: They did a show on the same on the on
Speaker 1: the boat there in Long Beach. That was outside, Okay,
Speaker 1: l A confidential. Yeah, so yeah, I think if you're
Speaker 1: forty and over, it's it's pretty much a rap your
Speaker 1: your rap careers. DRE probably we can put out a hit,
Speaker 1: but he's probably not as hungry as he used to
Speaker 1: be because of all those other business investments he's doing.
Speaker 1: Maybe Eminem, I think Eminem's over Snoop might be able
Speaker 1: to put out a hit again. So yeah, it's very
Speaker 1: few rappers over forty. This is a this is a
Speaker 1: young man game. To keep it real, you know, eighteen
Speaker 1: eighteen to thirty and everyone else is lucky if they
Speaker 1: can still do it all right. But another question. A
Speaker 1: producer named Johnny J. Who I think he died in
Speaker 1: the custody of the l A County Share several years ago,
Speaker 1: right in the county jail. He died, but he was
Speaker 1: a producer, died by way of committing suicide. Yes, at
Speaker 1: least that's the story. But someone asked if Johnny J
Speaker 1: produced most of pop song So, if you take all
Speaker 1: the Parks catalog from the death Row period, which is
Speaker 1: the Double C D and like a few other songs,
Speaker 1: which producer worked with Park the most on the death
Speaker 1: Row period, because I don't know all the thug life
Speaker 1: and me against the Yeah, I don't know what producers
Speaker 1: were were around it. I know it's one name assassin
Speaker 1: and so. But Johnny Day get credit for doing a
Speaker 1: lot of the work because he was like Pars every day,
Speaker 1: a producer that was always there. But the only reason
Speaker 1: most of those songs that we heard by Johnny J
Speaker 1: would have never came came out. They were really studio garbage.
Speaker 1: Most of those songs that y'all hearing on better days
Speaker 1: until the end of the time and whatever the other
Speaker 1: post albums were h were a lot of songs that
Speaker 1: two podcasts pretty much scrapped, wasn't going to use and
Speaker 1: uh so these unreleased songs that someone like Cats might own. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. That was a good one. And just
Speaker 1: what whatever happened to all the all the like the
Speaker 1: death ro chair and all of the ship that was
Speaker 1: in the office, whatever happened to that stuff? James, don't
Speaker 1: watch TV. It's a it's a show called it's a
Speaker 1: show called storage War. He lost it in auction, man,
Speaker 1: you know that? And there goes the show. All the
Speaker 1: people that like, oh yeah, she got a hundred million
Speaker 1: dollars stashed away. Okay, he would have took out five
Speaker 1: hundred dollars thousands of of that and wouldn't paid the
Speaker 1: storage bill. That that was the case, so that the
Speaker 1: people storage were actually know what they had. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: it was death row and that when they did the auction.
Speaker 1: I don't think pants that was that after. I think
Speaker 1: that was after they purchased. I think yeah after after. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the only thing that was really work something was jacket
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about the chair and all that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you had plaids, you had unreleased you had
Speaker 1: unreleased music in there. A couple of people said, you
Speaker 1: know and are reported, Yeah, contracts, they there's some paperwork
Speaker 1: over somebody over there got some gold and don't realize
Speaker 1: what they have exactly. Yeah, I just I just looked
Speaker 1: at Johnny J. And he actually did work on a
Speaker 1: lot of pop stuff pre death Row as well. So
Speaker 1: it might be true that Johnny J worked with POC
Speaker 1: on more songs than any other producer. Maybe someone out
Speaker 1: there can do the research on that ghost song by songs.
Speaker 1: Like I said, he was there every day, even the ones,
Speaker 1: even if Das was in their producing on him, Johnny J.
Speaker 1: Was right there sitting there and William he was there
Speaker 1: every day. James, did you know Johnny Jay? No, No,
Speaker 1: I didn't. Uh, Like I told you, that wasn't my
Speaker 1: side of the world. He was an event. He was
Speaker 1: what you call a staff e venner. After like ninety
Speaker 1: four ninety he was just cold red and I mean
Speaker 1: James and his crew showed up so he could be
Speaker 1: a cold blue knew him. Oh yeah, that James left.
Speaker 1: I came in. I think James ran after I came in.
Speaker 1: He was like, oh no, I came rob this motherfucker's
Speaker 1: I gotta go. You know what I say, And I
Speaker 1: still say the same thing because I honestly chold you
Speaker 1: I felt about that, and you know I believe that
Speaker 1: should run you in there to to uh Tom come
Speaker 1: the home boys down on. You know, these cats can't
Speaker 1: get ready. So you know, I just it was just
Speaker 1: a mixture of things. And my thing was, you know,
Speaker 1: you've been there and neckbone been there? How is neck
Speaker 1: bone gonna feel that you're there? And then y'all been
Speaker 1: into an oltercation? But man, can't nobody tell me I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't just I don't love Reggie Right. I don't
Speaker 1: love Reggie Right in his family. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I never said nothing out of line. Now I
Speaker 1: couldn't say to you personally. Everything I've said, I've repeated it.
Speaker 1: And and you know, even though me and neck bones
Speaker 1: don't talk, I'm there. You know I took up. I
Speaker 1: took up for that because and you know what, let
Speaker 1: me just say this, Neckbone came. I was around probably
Speaker 1: a year when Neron got all the jil and came back.
Speaker 1: You do you know to this day, me and neck
Speaker 1: Bone have never had a bad word said towards each other.
Speaker 1: It was always respectful. He was always cool, you know,
Speaker 1: saying I said over there in the corner talking to
Speaker 1: him a lot or anything like that. But he and
Speaker 1: I have never had a bad bad word. I mean,
Speaker 1: we haven't been in the swimming pool, playing basketball at
Speaker 1: together and stuff like that, you know, so we we
Speaker 1: were able to interact and he kept the professional and
Speaker 1: um and chuck it to the side. That's that's that's
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, so you know, but it was just,
Speaker 1: you know, I it pitched me off because I knew sigenda,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and I knew the reason
Speaker 1: why you know what I'm saying, so that I mean,
Speaker 1: it is what it is. I mean, it's all over now.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you would and and neck Bone never got
Speaker 1: into it because if that would have ever happened. Sure,
Speaker 1: I told you so what I'm saying, And that was
Speaker 1: just that was just my concern for for both parties.
Speaker 1: You know, neck bonus the homeboard. But you guys is
Speaker 1: like family, you know what I'm saying, And uh, it
Speaker 1: just mixed when you when when you came in, it
Speaker 1: just didn't mix. But I mean y'all worked it out.
Speaker 1: And and and everybody was happy. I was the one
Speaker 1: that you know, active prematurity and said this, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna do that. You know when when when all those
Speaker 1: other guys came and then me and sure wasn't saying
Speaker 1: out of eye and and my old thing is I
Speaker 1: can sit on the side kicking in the hood and
Speaker 1: do my thing and let me ride in. That's all
Speaker 1: about to say. Most people don't know that that that
Speaker 1: James used to run. Uh. He used to run neck
Speaker 1: Um Let Me Ride, which was an automobile shop that
Speaker 1: Shill had opened and and and was trying to have
Speaker 1: for the fixed low riders and make low riders over
Speaker 1: on Rose friends and low beat right off Crosser Rose
Speaker 1: Frands don't beat that actually that Pat Johnson used to own.
Speaker 1: But anyway, uh, and so James was running that car
Speaker 1: shop and until something stupid one of the homies told
Speaker 1: on something that the police came and raided it and
Speaker 1: found some stolen parts or something of stolen engine up.
Speaker 1: The motherfucker's was hated. Just tell the truth. Well you did,
Speaker 1: you did? Public Dr dret three Chevy from from I
Speaker 1: had it, I wouldn't give it it back. And then
Speaker 1: that was just that they had the opportunity to shoot.
Speaker 1: Knewhere I lived, and and Drey was in the hood
Speaker 1: with him frequently, and they could have came and got
Speaker 1: the mother. What they didn't. Dre wouldn't get into that.
Speaker 1: What did you end up doing with that car, James? Well,
Speaker 1: he stripped it down, stripped it down to the to
Speaker 1: the frame. When when I felt I was tired of it,
Speaker 1: and I told George them they come get it. And
Speaker 1: they came and got it. They brought some tires and
Speaker 1: roll them up forgot my yard. I help, I helped
Speaker 1: James steal that car in a police car, not knowing
Speaker 1: James was steal in that car on Bradfield right still
Speaker 1: in that car, and he broke down, and he broke
Speaker 1: down from from the car. Did you say I was still?
Speaker 1: I took it. Still, it took it. You took it.
Speaker 1: Whatever happened with the car, What happened with the car?
Speaker 1: It has started running hot. So Dre now masked me
Speaker 1: without taking and put it in my yard. Oh, I
Speaker 1: put it in my yard. But when he came to
Speaker 1: get the car already had somebody working on it fit
Speaker 1: this and I was driving the car. Now I want
Speaker 1: to check. She didn't want to give a check. You
Speaker 1: don't want to give me a check. You ain't getting
Speaker 1: this motherfucker for changing my thurm and stad changing the fu.
Speaker 1: He the manager of a goddamn uh. He's the manager
Speaker 1: of the car shot. So you had the low Rider
Speaker 1: shop at this time, right, James, and check and you
Speaker 1: probably changed the thermostat on that low ride and what's
Speaker 1: the thermostat cast back then? Like six dollars stas were.
Speaker 1: I think he was the manager, not the owner of
Speaker 1: the shop. So you know what he did. He built
Speaker 1: and got dog on the parts to to the company.
Speaker 1: And still but James Lyne, he ain't telling the truth
Speaker 1: of that. I remember pushing James in that car on
Speaker 1: Bradfield and the police car all the way off. That
Speaker 1: did happen, but that's when I got the car from
Speaker 1: them and and it overheated again. And that's when you
Speaker 1: will help me get it to the house. But that
Speaker 1: was good looking out I ain't I know, I know,
Speaker 1: but but let me just clear, Friday, I did not
Speaker 1: know the business at that time. I wasn't even working
Speaker 1: at death for I don't think at that time. I
Speaker 1: don't just just James. Then these were. These were my
Speaker 1: tractic of getting paid multiple times. But one thing like
Speaker 1: the Snoop Dogg trial, you know, I mean maybe maybe
Speaker 1: a thirty grand just just doing it, you know, it's trial.
Speaker 1: Should think I got fifth Green motherfucker's and I'm paying
Speaker 1: them a hundred dollars a day and I'm making two
Speaker 1: hundred dollars a day. So it ended up every time
Speaker 1: I came to get a check for it, I mean
Speaker 1: I put I put money in my pocket. That was
Speaker 1: my way of getting with him, and didn't didn't have
Speaker 1: to deal with and you know what in fairness to
Speaker 1: show back then he didn't even look at any voices
Speaker 1: or nothing. He didn't care. You just get the check
Speaker 1: that nig didn't even care. David Carroll would be the
Speaker 1: one looking at the boys like what the fuck? So
Speaker 1: what was what was Drake's reaction James when he found
Speaker 1: out you stripped down the low Loo When we was
Speaker 1: all in the in the alley of uh at my
Speaker 1: mom's house and then I was steading right next to
Speaker 1: each other and he asked me, how did I like
Speaker 1: the car? Oh man, it's cool and dry. Ain't give
Speaker 1: a funk about that goddam car. Man, what money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the car that he's talking about was the one that
Speaker 1: was in the video. Uh it was in the video thing,
Speaker 1: nothing but nothing but the thing that's the one with Snoop. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well r was sitting in there holding Marcel drean Um,
Speaker 1: Mr Lan, you should have kept you should have kept
Speaker 1: that car, James. We should have kept a lot of
Speaker 1: ship there. If we would have known what I mean,
Speaker 1: I would have been a picture taking motherfucker's with the niggas.
Speaker 1: I would have been taking them with strippers and everything
Speaker 1: if I knew him. You know what what was so
Speaker 1: crazy about that is, you know everybody talking about me
Speaker 1: taking that car and doing what I did with it,
Speaker 1: but you can't name it's probably only three more buckers
Speaker 1: that was in that office that wasn't spilling c these
Speaker 1: uh flat and all of them ship. Everybody was taking
Speaker 1: me on the other side of in the neighborhood. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had an incident with this nigga lived dog and
Speaker 1: and and should assistance centric. Well, let me say this,
Speaker 1: the motherfucker's We've had a bunch of CDs. I went
Speaker 1: to Interscope and took all our music from Interscope. At
Speaker 1: the end of the deal. I mean boxes of mcavelly
Speaker 1: and Tupac, you know, the motherfuckers going upstairs. I didn't
Speaker 1: trust the Centric because I was never really in office
Speaker 1: with the key because I had them all locked up.
Speaker 1: They were going up to the conference swap meet taking
Speaker 1: boxes of maccabelly's and All Eyes on Me and Snoop
Speaker 1: Dogg albums and stuff like that up to the conference
Speaker 1: wap meets in different swap means, selling the mothers for
Speaker 1: like ten dollars of the unit boxes of UH and
Speaker 1: splitting the money, making some side money. Yeah. Man. So
Speaker 1: that that was the blue low Rider that Dre had, right, James,
Speaker 1: the black the convertible. Yeah, yeah, man, I'm looking at
Speaker 1: it right now on the video. That was a beautiful car.
Speaker 1: Oh man. You should have seen me hitting the switches
Speaker 1: in the motherfuckers and bitches running that card like I
Speaker 1: was a selayer for something. Man that if you still
Speaker 1: had that car, James, it would probably be worth about
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand dollars because it was Dre's. D probably
Speaker 1: would pay more than that for it. Now, yeah, but
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have it. You wouldn't have a pink slip
Speaker 1: for it. Though I didn't Alex. I mean you couldn't
Speaker 1: do anything, like you couldn't sell a car with that. Yes,
Speaker 1: I could down to lean on that and uh okay,
Speaker 1: well I didn't wanna end um talking about Johnny J.
Speaker 1: I just want to finalize he committed suicide in two
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, and I was gonna ask where any
Speaker 1: of you guys kind of surprised, especially you read you
Speaker 1: knew him that this guy I guess committed suicide when
Speaker 1: he was in jail wasn't known as a criminal. He
Speaker 1: wasn't as the Doug good dude Loki. I mean he was.
Speaker 1: He was a Mexican brother. I mean, you know, Mexican
Speaker 1: guy that was cool married to a black chick. This chick,
Speaker 1: man with the type, was one of those type of
Speaker 1: chicks that will come around with her brawl and you know,
Speaker 1: titty hanging out and all of that. Real permissive, provocative, provocative,
Speaker 1: all of that, but there with him every session like
Speaker 1: right and die. You know. Now, after he committed suicide,
Speaker 1: I talked to the realist because the realists have a
Speaker 1: relationship with her and all of that. He says, she
Speaker 1: walked around, she's very religious now, she's very conservative, walk
Speaker 1: around with a bunch of clothes on and just change
Speaker 1: their life. So it was something going on in their
Speaker 1: lives that where they felt they needed a change. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what what what got into Johnny Jay.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure the conspiractions out there. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he was killed. He was killed. You know, you know,
Speaker 1: guys like you, the police do everything wrong. Well, when
Speaker 1: ever someone commits suicide in custody, it certainly should certain
Speaker 1: questions should be asked. I don't know if there was
Speaker 1: an investigation. I mean, if a guy, the guy wasn't
Speaker 1: known to be a criminal, wasn't a thug, mental and
Speaker 1: he must have had something going on perhaps so, Um,
Speaker 1: she's definitely mental. Now, that's why she had a bunch
Speaker 1: of songs and stuff. She won't even release the new things.
Speaker 1: People don't came with at her, offering her all type
Speaker 1: of money and she's just like, since you knew Johnny,
Speaker 1: did he ever exhibit anything that would make you think, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised he committed suicide. No, but but Johnny
Speaker 1: J did leave us and not really be around us
Speaker 1: nineties seven ninety, you know, actually part of the park. Nine. Um,
Speaker 1: he has stopped being around because he wouldn't sign a
Speaker 1: publishing deal and so he was he was kicked to
Speaker 1: the current as well. Okay, and and James, you mentioned, um,
Speaker 1: you haven't spoke to the neckbone. I was wondering if
Speaker 1: you could elaborate a little bit on what what kind
Speaker 1: of falling out did you guys have, what kind of well,
Speaker 1: you know, the neck bone and everybody else in the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: I felt that, you know, they turned their backs when
Speaker 1: when she got big with the neighborhood with you know,
Speaker 1: with a bunch of your death and all that. But
Speaker 1: was surprising to me, man, since I've been out here.
Speaker 1: My sister something a I guess. Neck Bone was on
Speaker 1: his spacebook and he expressed how he felled and he
Speaker 1: was actually in jail went out to and I didn't
Speaker 1: know that. And I just thought they just everybody just
Speaker 1: fell on the face and earth and and and I
Speaker 1: truly I hated everybody thinking that. Okay, man, I've I've
Speaker 1: been there for everybody. If you got shot in the
Speaker 1: hood and all those guys know, Mom James had to
Speaker 1: go out there and shoot at these motherfucker's because you
Speaker 1: can't through the hood. Mom, James had to feel like
Speaker 1: you can't ride through here and and and nothing that
Speaker 1: happened to you. So anyway, I plead this this post
Speaker 1: Facebook post, right, yeah, yeah, I lead this post that
Speaker 1: he that he posted, Man, and it was like, man,
Speaker 1: can you paraphrases for us? Uh my, you know my
Speaker 1: phone don't work out. I mean, no, you don't gotta
Speaker 1: read it off your phone. I'm just saying, can you
Speaker 1: just give us the gist of what he posted? He posted,
Speaker 1: you know, the paint he felt with Budget's sad. You
Speaker 1: know that the the police, theos came to him on
Speaker 1: the yard six d sevent d and told him that
Speaker 1: they had bad news. This is how he fouled out.
Speaker 1: Budget was killed and they told him your brother passed
Speaker 1: and he was taking my brother and he told him
Speaker 1: Budget was killed and actually that they had to put
Speaker 1: him in a hole. He said no, but he wind
Speaker 1: up going to the whole and he felt that, you know,
Speaker 1: he had to take his anger out on something. So
Speaker 1: he just tripped on the grips on the yard. And man,
Speaker 1: I just like he went through what I went through,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But here, man, here, I
Speaker 1: am you know, judging all of these guys and I
Speaker 1: knowing the facts of you know why or where he
Speaker 1: was you know what I'm saying. But you know, I
Speaker 1: told my sister and chilling, you know, I probably guys
Speaker 1: and you know pretty that way, and I just wanted
Speaker 1: to leave it at that. Um but man was one
Speaker 1: of the strongest guys you'll ever come across. And he
Speaker 1: was a quiet man, didn't then't talk, didn't talk much
Speaker 1: at all. And um so that at that time, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, like trade behind them. They put mirrors on
Speaker 1: their arms and they fought it a tupa but Altre
Speaker 1: was just you know, is that just another cat you've
Speaker 1: been doing a bunch of y'all You're life. You grew
Speaker 1: up in the little so you know, where's the loyalty
Speaker 1: and that's where my that's where it was that for me.
Speaker 1: And when we didn't get that, I when I didn't
Speaker 1: get that, I wasn't satisfied. I you know, my Mom's
Speaker 1: always told me these guys don't leave you, and and
Speaker 1: these didn't keep playing families yet playing and I stuck
Speaker 1: with that after after out and passed. I looked at
Speaker 1: her when she told me, don't go after shore. That
Speaker 1: god handling Parma is a motherfucking let god handling. And
Speaker 1: she made me promise her that I wouldn't get out
Speaker 1: there and that no damn food, she couldn't take me
Speaker 1: boring back to prison or give you fell Okay, Mama,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I say this. You know,
Speaker 1: since my mom's passed, I've lived and I fulfilled mind
Speaker 1: my my promise to her, and I didn't do nothing.
Speaker 1: But you know, just to hear that both say that,
Speaker 1: just in words, Man, it bucked me up. And you know,
Speaker 1: I got a lot of show YEA. Let me just
Speaker 1: say this about ahead. Neck Bone broke away from us,
Speaker 1: and like ninety seven, he went went to jail got
Speaker 1: carton Beverly Hills for a drug case and then he
Speaker 1: went went back to jail on the violation from when
Speaker 1: he was arrested with me. And so he went and
Speaker 1: at that time, and nick Bone also had a relationship
Speaker 1: with the lady of Rage, and I believe they have
Speaker 1: two kids together. They're not together currently, but they had
Speaker 1: two kids I believe together. So, James, you haven't talked
Speaker 1: to Neckbone since two thousand two, since before your brother
Speaker 1: got killed. No, no one has really since like nineties seven,
Speaker 1: ninety eight, he kinda went into the show from what
Speaker 1: I hear, So maybe we can bring them together and
Speaker 1: have a little sit down or something. He's on Facebook
Speaker 1: actively you know when I'm gonna actually, I'm gonna actually
Speaker 1: figure away to to just slide in and you know,
Speaker 1: because next Moon is a is a is you know,
Speaker 1: he make ball and and me, I'm just not finished that.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, sorry, blame all the kilt on me, which
Speaker 1: is it is my fault, but I'm just you know,
Speaker 1: as you know how my fuckers be assholes and ship.
Speaker 1: But you know, two thousand and two, it's it's two
Speaker 1: thousand and nineteen. Man, it's been seventeen years, and and
Speaker 1: I'm in the process of just trying to let it
Speaker 1: all go. You know, neck Bone and some of the
Speaker 1: other guys in the room, well like never lived dog
Speaker 1: and all those kids. I have nothing to say to
Speaker 1: these people, you know, they if you always there the
Speaker 1: night it happened, when when Bunty is killed, you got
Speaker 1: all of these these people on my at my house.
Speaker 1: And when I say let's row it's time, I got
Speaker 1: an eight K forty seven in my motherfucking hand. And
Speaker 1: I'm telling these cats mean row out of all of
Speaker 1: those guys only to say, let's roll. Now, all these
Speaker 1: guys that i'm i'm, i'm, i'm i'm working with on
Speaker 1: a daily basis turned their backs. And these these cats,
Speaker 1: my age, these my homies, these cats been in cards
Speaker 1: with me. These cats doesn't hung out with me. And
Speaker 1: and let's get them type of ship. These guys brothers
Speaker 1: wood Wood were hurt. And and who who right there
Speaker 1: for funk that let's go give him make James was
Speaker 1: let's go get him. And and when my when it
Speaker 1: happened to me, they all turned, they turned their backs,
Speaker 1: and I felt fucked up behind that. I felt like, man,
Speaker 1: I should go after all of these cats. But no,
Speaker 1: it's okay because it was my fault and listening and
Speaker 1: and and and put my life on the line for
Speaker 1: the neighborhood. And that's what the neighborhoods did. But but James, um,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of people getting shot, a lot
Speaker 1: of people getting killed two thousand two. Prior to two
Speaker 1: thousand two, I can kind of understand people saying, man,
Speaker 1: they just killed Bounty. I ain't I ain't coming around.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. I don't know who
Speaker 1: shooting who. I don't know who's mad at who I could,
Speaker 1: I could kind of understand people just saying, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm about to stay in the shadows for a minute.
Speaker 1: And this is a question that I see a lot
Speaker 1: in the comment sections, and because they want to, they
Speaker 1: want to make it the appearance come out like we
Speaker 1: were scared of the person that that that that committed
Speaker 1: these assaults. Well, most people don't understand and don't know
Speaker 1: that these people weren't into hiding. They were hiding out
Speaker 1: in San Bernardino and stuff like that, and you know,
Speaker 1: they were able to they had the money to be
Speaker 1: mobile because they had their money right at the time
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and they wasn't laying in the hood.
Speaker 1: For all these people that's out there always like why
Speaker 1: nothing never happened to him? Why didn't the models ever
Speaker 1: retaliated or do anything like that? And a person that
Speaker 1: was suspected, even though James doesn't doesn't suspect them, but
Speaker 1: that the neighborhood did suspect did turn up dead behind us.
Speaker 1: Just for all you people out there that always nothing
Speaker 1: ever happened, nobody ever tried to do anything to revenge. Uh,
Speaker 1: the depth of country. Yeah, yeah, and and and you
Speaker 1: know I understand all of that, but it was just,
Speaker 1: you know, you you really had to be that, you
Speaker 1: have to really be a part of this. And and man,
Speaker 1: me being a game member, Man I gave my whole.
Speaker 1: I gave my hole. Man I I should have gotten that.
Speaker 1: That was me. You know, if I had it, you
Speaker 1: got it. If you needed a place to stay, you
Speaker 1: got it. And and just on the game banging aspect,
Speaker 1: I've been there by all of those guys. You couldn't
Speaker 1: call me at four in the morning and I'm laying
Speaker 1: on top of something and I didn't get the funk
Speaker 1: up and just throw my pants on and I'm on
Speaker 1: my way, you know what I'm saying. So it it
Speaker 1: just it It did something to me. Man, it hurted me.
Speaker 1: And and that's how I just felt. And you know,
Speaker 1: you was you was hearing the home boys saying, don't
Speaker 1: go to that funeral. They mean, don't go to that funeral.
Speaker 1: You know this bunch for you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And Mountrey had cats like Magbone and and George George Williams,
Speaker 1: George Markham, I mean, and and you know other guys
Speaker 1: that he kicked it with his crew. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And you know I had mine time time
Speaker 1: Joe Sean, you know, uh dar shoe, these were my cats.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm man. Couldn't nobody fun with these guys
Speaker 1: and and man it was it was only crack. So
Speaker 1: they have guys turn their back and and it's it's
Speaker 1: not too many of these catches getting killed. No, they
Speaker 1: didn't want to funk with George. They didn't want no
Speaker 1: punt of that or me. You know, I was kicking
Speaker 1: it and you know, motherfucker's sliders over to kill it.
Speaker 1: If that was a guy, damn case shouldn't have never
Speaker 1: bunked with the ship anywhere. They shouldn't have never became
Speaker 1: gang bangers if they was worried about that, you know,
Speaker 1: And you know i'd say today, you know, bunch of
Speaker 1: you didn't listen, bunch of took the ship damn half
Speaker 1: near half a joke until he looked at the kitchen
Speaker 1: window and see cats at at the gate. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So and it is what it is.
Speaker 1: And I've yeah, take me back to your brother's funeral,
Speaker 1: like who who showed up? And who were you surprised
Speaker 1: wasn't there? Oh man, um man, I've seen Ray Ray,
Speaker 1: j Um Crook and Eye and all those guys was there.
Speaker 1: And mctim was there. Um damn, that was such a
Speaker 1: long time ago. It was. It was a lot of
Speaker 1: people there. Um should was there? Um did you? Were
Speaker 1: you already pissed that sugar by the time the funeral happened?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, we had things going on. So
Speaker 1: what was that like for sure to show up at
Speaker 1: your brother's funeral? Showed up because my sister and my
Speaker 1: mother and then loved ship. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I argued and busting and custom the whole night about ship,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying And they didn't want to
Speaker 1: believe me about once. You didn't want to believe me
Speaker 1: about the ship that was going on, that that was
Speaker 1: about to unfold, that was unfolding in front of everybody's face.
Speaker 1: So seeing so here, you know, hey, what's up? And
Speaker 1: you know he over there in the crowd with with
Speaker 1: with with Jimmy and all those other cats. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't too much really ship that day.
Speaker 1: And you know it was just so many people that
Speaker 1: came out. That was the coolest thing about it, But
Speaker 1: you had a very big you never seen you never
Speaker 1: watched the video, the one that the tape that you
Speaker 1: gave me. No, I haven't had a chance to connect
Speaker 1: it to my uh my MacBook yet, but I'm definitely
Speaker 1: gonna work on that real soon, man, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: It was. It was yet. Yeah, they did tribute songs. Um,
Speaker 1: they performed well, I think well Mr Lay performed there. Okay,
Speaker 1: So so who didn't show up? And who was you
Speaker 1: shocked that didn't want to pay their respects? I'll say, um,
Speaker 1: I was wone that that that probably should have went
Speaker 1: that didn't Wait, Reggie, you didn't go to funeral? No.
Speaker 1: I was having problems with Death Row as a whole.
Speaker 1: As a whole at that time. This was two two
Speaker 1: thousand two. I had just broke up. Go ahead, I
Speaker 1: don't remember I thought you. I wasn't. I wasn't. Well,
Speaker 1: he just he just revealed he didn't show up. I called, um, well,
Speaker 1: your brother Timmy and talked to him that day. But
Speaker 1: there was things that was being said, and you know, accusations,
Speaker 1: and I wasn't feeling shooven and a lot of the
Speaker 1: Death Row crew at that time did you feel like
Speaker 1: it was just getting dangerous? And I was mad at him.
Speaker 1: They were picking on one of a guy that I
Speaker 1: was close with, and uh, and I didn't appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I was pretty much considering myself at war with him
Speaker 1: at that time because of some things that who not
Speaker 1: Bountry and not James or in now, but some things
Speaker 1: that people that was around that for all the time. Okay, well, James,
Speaker 1: you just found out Reggie didn't go to your brothers,
Speaker 1: and honestly believe that I thought I thought I saw
Speaker 1: Reggie and Reggie right seeing. I think Reggie seen you
Speaker 1: was there, but I didn't go. Okay, I didn't even
Speaker 1: know that, man, And I truly thought that that you
Speaker 1: came in and everybody that came to support it, and
Speaker 1: it was just so many people there. Wow, Um, I
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't know. I didn't know that. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that. Yeah, me and Bob Gott he didn't both
Speaker 1: then come. We It was something that we both deeply regretted,
Speaker 1: but it probably would have been an ugly scene if
Speaker 1: we did show up. But do you really think you
Speaker 1: and Sugar would have got into it? Redd at the
Speaker 1: funeral or something like in the parking lot or some
Speaker 1: argument would have ensued. It wasn't mainly even with Sugar.
Speaker 1: I wasn't feeling cool with Sugar at the time, but
Speaker 1: some of the people that was, wow, that's interesting there, man,
Speaker 1: this is like that, yeah, that is and you know
Speaker 1: my emotions and and you know, because at that time, man,
Speaker 1: my mom she pretty much blamed me, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And she actually told me, she said, she
Speaker 1: said to me, why I couldn't have been you, you know,
Speaker 1: and and I was fucked up behind that and and
Speaker 1: my sister and then was like wow, you know, and man,
Speaker 1: that that that would again in my heart, put again
Speaker 1: in my heart. And from that day, man, I've always
Speaker 1: believed that if I wouldn't have never just broke a
Speaker 1: bunch you to this bullshit, the manter be here doing
Speaker 1: this thing with his son and his grand kids. And man,
Speaker 1: that my mother, she she actually and I'm glad that
Speaker 1: me and her had our time to really just sit
Speaker 1: back and talk about it and and you know, make
Speaker 1: amends with all of that. Ship. Well, James, it sounds
Speaker 1: like you blame yourself a lot for Sugar and your
Speaker 1: brother's relationship. But I feel like if you didn't introduce them,
Speaker 1: your brother would have eventually started messing with people in
Speaker 1: death Row because they were in the hood. No, No,
Speaker 1: I don't think Bunchy would have with it. I don't
Speaker 1: think half of them cats would have been there, especially
Speaker 1: the crew that bunch. But look how many people from
Speaker 1: Looters and mob we're messing with death Row. You don't
Speaker 1: think your brother would that circle. James and Bunty pretty
Speaker 1: much about about for him, heron and they all was
Speaker 1: pretty much about. You know, I think I believe this
Speaker 1: and anybody had changed. Me and Bunty had bumped heads
Speaker 1: on on the mount and ship, me and bunch Ofy
Speaker 1: had had I got a hole in my mother's sucking
Speaker 1: arm for you know, biting with bunt of You know,
Speaker 1: me and my brother's pulled guns on each other when
Speaker 1: we didn't like ship and for us to understand what
Speaker 1: the other one was saying, that was us, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: because nobody coming funk with Buntry, couldn't nobody fun with Timmy,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I just felt like
Speaker 1: if I wouldn't have, if I wouldn't if I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have just introduced him to the ship. If I wouldn't
Speaker 1: introduce them to the ship and some ships on his way,
Speaker 1: and wouldn't even tripped children when he came back to
Speaker 1: the hood like that, he probably wouldn't incorporate it off
Speaker 1: of course with all those other cats, but just stay
Speaker 1: out of the room. So if they'd have found a
Speaker 1: way to get getting these two ships, I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: But you know my mom's made me feel that way.
Speaker 1: She made me feel that way, you know. Um at
Speaker 1: that time, Bunty, we bought, we bought moms in Carden.
Speaker 1: I gave her five thousand, bunch of gave her eight thousands.
Speaker 1: Oh that's my favorite. You know what I'm saying. She
Speaker 1: needed a Washington drive, a bunch of body Washington drive
Speaker 1: to go hunting bugs. Buntry is my favorite, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you know, when he died, it
Speaker 1: was like, why couldn't have them? Me and and I
Speaker 1: don't care what nobody says, the think for your mother
Speaker 1: to say how much? So too? Man, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Did you see uh boys in the hood.
Speaker 1: That's what the mother said that I wasn't nothing like
Speaker 1: she didn't give me a dude, all that stream of
Speaker 1: the bullish it and it wasn't there. It was just
Speaker 1: why it couldn't be me, and and and and we
Speaker 1: couldn't understand that ship. Damn. You know, you know my
Speaker 1: mom's never help you. I'm sure she appreciate your growth now,
Speaker 1: um like we all do. Yeah, and how did you
Speaker 1: showed them? And this is what most people don't know.
Speaker 1: When James and I first back were reconnected, when I
Speaker 1: used to call me on and said, Shank, James, can
Speaker 1: you do a show for me? Like, yeah, yeah, a
Speaker 1: little rich or juny, we'll knock that out. But I'm
Speaker 1: right now and at the hospital, not the hospital, at
Speaker 1: the clinic with Moms, and so I'll call you back later.
Speaker 1: James was the one that was taking Moms to the
Speaker 1: hospital s they Woden moved out from his girl house
Speaker 1: and started staying with Moms over there to help her
Speaker 1: out while she was fighting up the last the last
Speaker 1: two years of my mama fighting cancer. All right, when
Speaker 1: she was hungry, I could for her, when when she
Speaker 1: wanted to go or needed to go to the doctor,
Speaker 1: I was there for I took this. Uh, I don't
Speaker 1: care what time. It was she wanted to eat. I've
Speaker 1: been the only thing I didn't do is babe and
Speaker 1: clothed because she was doing that on our own. Um
Speaker 1: that two years, me and my mama got we got closed,
Speaker 1: and I mean just it's it's it's it's all good,
Speaker 1: all right, exact. I got a lot of closure with
Speaker 1: a lot of ship about you know, my props and
Speaker 1: and the things that he did. And you know, she
Speaker 1: explained a lot of ship to him, which I never wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I never wouldn't understood that ship. But her last two years, man,
Speaker 1: we got cool. We got cool, and see what you're doing.
Speaker 1: She would be very very very very proud of your brother.
Speaker 1: So I just I just appreciate the fact that she
Speaker 1: her apology meant everything to me. You know, it was everything,
Speaker 1: and that was the best part of it. You know,
Speaker 1: me and my mom's got argue. You know, my mama
Speaker 1: was a gangster. She shot pop back in the day,
Speaker 1: and she shot the shot the sucking air off she was.
Speaker 1: She was with business. Yeah, But I right, James, rest
Speaker 1: in peace to Mahelia McDonald and um, I'm sure she
Speaker 1: appreciates everything you're doing now, man, And I want to
Speaker 1: let all the listeners know thank you for listening to
Speaker 1: another episode of The Gangster Chronicles. This was episode eighteen
Speaker 1: and it featured Mr James McDonald all the way from Australia.
Speaker 1: Thanks James for calling in because we really appreciate doing
Speaker 1: the show as a trio. And I want to tell
Speaker 1: everyone that's listening on iTunes to definitely give us a
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