WEBVTT - Phone Check

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<v Speaker 1>You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles. Well, James McDonald, Regie

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<v Speaker 1>Right Junior and Allen Tomanso on the Digital Soapbox Network.

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<v Speaker 1>A material witness on an aggregated battery, I was a

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<v Speaker 1>hang gun and um they believe this might be in

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<v Speaker 1>retaliation to her testimony. Welcome to another episode of The

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<v Speaker 1>Gangster Chronicles. My name is Alex Alonso. You meet may

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<v Speaker 1>be aware of my platform, Street Gangs dot Com a

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<v Speaker 1>k a. Street TV, where I interview gang members, former

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<v Speaker 1>and current hip hop artists, rappers, authors, entertainers and other influencers.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm hearing my two co hosts and Big and

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<v Speaker 1>we got Big James coming to us all the way

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<v Speaker 1>from down Under in Australia and Reggie Right Juniors right

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<v Speaker 1>here next to me. And I want to also remind

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<v Speaker 1>you guys to check out Reggie Right Junior on Bomb

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<v Speaker 1>First b O m B one st. He does a

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<v Speaker 1>live show every Tuesday at seven pm Pacific Standard time.

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<v Speaker 1>And don't forget to go out there and get James

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<v Speaker 1>is Um death Row t shirts which are available through

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<v Speaker 1>the Bomb First Patreon page. Right, yep James and give

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<v Speaker 1>him that number where they can hit you up hit

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<v Speaker 1>you up to order him, because James got a phone

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<v Speaker 1>number now that he wants people to call him in

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<v Speaker 1>and get a hold to him. H nine O nine

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<v Speaker 1>eight zero zero six four oh four. Hit me up.

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<v Speaker 1>You you tell me what you want and I have

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<v Speaker 1>it out for you the next day and you would

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<v Speaker 1>get it the next day two days after that. So

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<v Speaker 1>hit me up, let me know what size for color.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also got other other designs in the making,

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<v Speaker 1>so be waiting for that. And uh, you'll see what

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<v Speaker 1>I got going on. And and just all your shirts.

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<v Speaker 1>And I appreciate everybody that ordered the shirt. The number

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<v Speaker 1>is nine O nine eight zero zero six four and

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<v Speaker 1>tell him the amount and most of the money going

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<v Speaker 1>to Well the Manage thirty five bucks the Church of

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<v Speaker 1>all the all the proceeds is going to all the

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<v Speaker 1>grand kids that that you know of all these guys

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<v Speaker 1>that lost their lives and the guys that don't have

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<v Speaker 1>grandchildren are kids. We're gonna donate to a charity. So

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<v Speaker 1>either way, somebody is getting something from these guys. So

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<v Speaker 1>order your T shirts and let's keep it going. And

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<v Speaker 1>he also put in five dollars aside for marrying ship

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<v Speaker 1>night for those of you that, uh, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to support him and help him out. And is

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<v Speaker 1>that number also linked to your PayPal James, Yes, directly

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<v Speaker 1>to the papal. Just just call that number. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people have been using it so far, and those

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<v Speaker 1>guys that honestly tell you they got their church who

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<v Speaker 1>right away, and I want to keep it going that way.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to keep it going to bomb first so

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get backed up with the shows. And I

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<v Speaker 1>want to also let everybody in Australia know that, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Noonan Newton Boyd Promotions Promotions. If you hit us

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<v Speaker 1>up on the Facebook page Newton Boyd Promotions, you can

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<v Speaker 1>actually put your orders in there to the our Australian

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<v Speaker 1>listeners out there and we can get the shirts distributed

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<v Speaker 1>through Australia. Okay, that sounds great. Um. I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to remind everybody this is episode eighteen and if you're

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<v Speaker 1>rating and a review so we can continue bringing this

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<v Speaker 1>and give us a five star rating if you love

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<v Speaker 1>on Google Play that's for you Samsung and Android users,

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<v Speaker 1>and Spotify including radio dot com. So before we start

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<v Speaker 1>the show, I wanna listen to what James has to

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<v Speaker 1>say about his trip so far and what's been going

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<v Speaker 1>on out there in Australia. James, Oh, Man, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>been lovely, uh since I stepped off the plane. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>the hospitality, the the love I've been getting from these

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<v Speaker 1>people in Australia. Man, it's just off the chain. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>It's unbelievable. Um, it's not a day. Every day I've

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<v Speaker 1>been here, I haven't had to spend a time with

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<v Speaker 1>my money. You know, these guys, you know, I meet

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<v Speaker 1>him and and I come here with American money and

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<v Speaker 1>these guys giving me cash out, they pocket One guy

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<v Speaker 1>gave me a hundred bucks of his money. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. So I can just you know, do

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<v Speaker 1>me and uh everything. You know, I've just been appreciating,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the shows. You know, I got people crying

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<v Speaker 1>out here, you know what I'm saying, listening and send

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<v Speaker 1>that they loved, uh, the flat interviews and man, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just been it's just been wonderful. Man. I wish I

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<v Speaker 1>would have came down there with you. Oh, Man, I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I wish everybody can experience Australia. Australia is the

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<v Speaker 1>place to go, man. And and I had no clue,

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<v Speaker 1>and man, I you know, it's I'm just glad that

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<v Speaker 1>that I was chosen to come down here and and

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<v Speaker 1>and experienced this. You know, every show has been lovely. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>My first show we so fifty five shirts. The next

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<v Speaker 1>show were so thirty five. So it's it's just been lovely. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I was only charging out then he ran out,

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<v Speaker 1>then I ran out, and and you know it's so

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<v Speaker 1>crazy because every show, Man, you know, I ain't never

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<v Speaker 1>in my life signed autographs. Man, I ain't never in

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<v Speaker 1>my life had people standing in line just to shake

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<v Speaker 1>my hand and new mom James, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was it's a totally different experience from from

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm from to be here in Australia and just

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<v Speaker 1>get that love from everybody all the way around. How

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<v Speaker 1>they're treating grat hating out there, beautiful, beautiful, pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>the same experience. Man. We through this whole tour. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody has been treating us like man. I never felt

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<v Speaker 1>like a king, and I can use that word loosely. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>They it's just too much love about here, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know it's crazy because you know, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have guns out here. They they drink and fight. But

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen no animosity. And you see, I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen these people arguing. Uh. One guy last night in

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<v Speaker 1>the show, Uh, we sat out and talking. He wrapped

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<v Speaker 1>his ass off of me about about fifteen minutes and

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<v Speaker 1>then the comings side the show and he just loud.

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<v Speaker 1>So he got up and walked to wind. They took

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<v Speaker 1>him outside with no problem. But he was just being

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<v Speaker 1>cool and and you know, he was drinking, So I

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<v Speaker 1>was cool with that. Um, I've been following you on

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram and I've seen you've been drinking on beer all

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<v Speaker 1>of shoes. What's up with that? What's up with that?

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<v Speaker 1>And that night, I forget what they call that. That's

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<v Speaker 1>cool a shoe the shoeing, and they said, I say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do it shooting. I ain't knowing what the hell

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<v Speaker 1>they're talking about. They come back with my beer and

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<v Speaker 1>they had their beer and they started then listen their shoes,

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<v Speaker 1>say what they do with it? He said, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the shoe he made. I'm not going to drink out

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<v Speaker 1>my damn. You know how long I've been walking around me.

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<v Speaker 1>But man, this man, I I told him, Man, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pumping up Australia one hunter. Man. I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>come back here, you and the air, the beaches. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>If y'all see the pictures I post. Man, it's so

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful at him man and man, I am fortunate to

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<v Speaker 1>see it and tell everybody back there. You know, man,

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<v Speaker 1>the way these people get along with each other. Man

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<v Speaker 1>while we came, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, So,

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<v Speaker 1>so those of y'all want to see some pictures before

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<v Speaker 1>James get back. He eve been real, um even really

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<v Speaker 1>active on his Instagram page, were posting and our boy

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<v Speaker 1>Nick None uh he also been posting on his Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>page and a shout out to him. He's the one

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<v Speaker 1>that made it happen for my boy James and Greg

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<v Speaker 1>Hatings and put it together on None Productions. Um, he's

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<v Speaker 1>here as well, and we're gonna let him chime in

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<v Speaker 1>and promote his Instagram page James Instagram page. And then

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<v Speaker 1>for those of you that's on YouTube. Y'all go to

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<v Speaker 1>bomb first and we just put up a little clipp

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<v Speaker 1>it like a seven minute clipping showing y'all, uh the

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<v Speaker 1>vineyard and some of the hatties and all of that

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<v Speaker 1>that's been hanging around James. So Nick, we'll tell us

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<v Speaker 1>James and your Instagram peace or people can check in

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<v Speaker 1>on that. Yeah, So A boy Promotions. The Night with

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<v Speaker 1>Great Katie is the is the Instagram page and also

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<v Speaker 1>the Facebook page. But I just want to give a

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<v Speaker 1>big shout out to Alex Alonso and yourself for having

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<v Speaker 1>me on the show back in May. You're one of

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<v Speaker 1>the first guys that went out of your way to

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<v Speaker 1>put me on your platform, not only to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>this show for the American people, but also on a

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<v Speaker 1>worldwide We've done a very um big job out here

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<v Speaker 1>to really promote you guys your podcast. But your podcast

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<v Speaker 1>is fantastic and as James with a Green last night,

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<v Speaker 1>we had people from the audience, didn't we James that

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about the podcast. They love it. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, anything that I can do in the future

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<v Speaker 1>to support this fantastic podcast, I'm going to do it

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<v Speaker 1>for you and Alex and obviously street TV and anything

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a bright it's a great community movement and

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<v Speaker 1>it can be broken off from the soa many white

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<v Speaker 1>and with night short at every show that we're really

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<v Speaker 1>given up to Alex along time when The Gangster Chronicles

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<v Speaker 1>poadcast with Vicky Virginia and James McDonald. Yeah, I've had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of those guys know that they want to

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<v Speaker 1>know the culture and the game culture to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the street g V Alex. So you might be getting

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<v Speaker 1>Australia's tuning in because they want to hear the story.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to hear our story on how we we

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<v Speaker 1>survived and and the ship that we go to. So

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<v Speaker 1>I told him about Joe Joe Show and they was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we definitely gotta go and see because man, definitely what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on in our world. They are so intrigued appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>that I had. I had people crying, um you know

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<v Speaker 1>that saw the Black the Black interviews, and man, it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of called me off going and I was overwhelmed

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, these people are really in tune to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how we live and they want to know

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<v Speaker 1>the studies about what's going on and and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how do we survive that on the daily when they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to go through what we go through, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>every day. So man, it was, it was man, it was,

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<v Speaker 1>it was beautiful. I wish I was here. Man. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I heard you had a love hate relationship going on

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<v Speaker 1>out there. Tell us a little bit about that. God

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<v Speaker 1>damn ch it's one lady in the show. She uh.

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<v Speaker 1>We were taking questions and she had a question, so

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<v Speaker 1>she she pretty much raised her hand when somebody else

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<v Speaker 1>was going there. But I told her, go ahead, answer

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<v Speaker 1>your question. And the first thing she said, Okay, you're

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<v Speaker 1>a coup and you're a fucking nigger. Oh the crowd

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<v Speaker 1>went crazy like wow, did she really fucking say nigger?

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<v Speaker 1>So I kind of like put the mic down and

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<v Speaker 1>just like oh my god, and I had to take it.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to take a step back. So I said

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<v Speaker 1>the mike down and was walking away. I turned around

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<v Speaker 1>and here here she'd come running out to me. So

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<v Speaker 1>I run around the building and people laughing like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I played it all like you know, it really didn't

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<v Speaker 1>bother me, and you know, everybody started laughing when I

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<v Speaker 1>ran from her. So I go out and smoke a

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<v Speaker 1>cigarette and here she comes so basically she had a

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<v Speaker 1>she had four kids by and by an African American,

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<v Speaker 1>well a guy from Africa, and you know, these are

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<v Speaker 1>the things that she you know, she says, she called

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<v Speaker 1>her son, Sir Sun was there really hyped up and

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<v Speaker 1>and and loved the two parts Biggie studies and she said,

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<v Speaker 1>come in, my nigga, and it was it was like wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So when what bastically happened is UH nickname put her out.

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<v Speaker 1>She was she was drunk and UH put her out.

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<v Speaker 1>And then at the end of the day, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>people was just amazed. I thought that I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to really trick man. I'm straight. And you know who

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<v Speaker 1>I blame for for that. I bring. I blame Proof

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<v Speaker 1>and the guys from D twelve for that because they

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<v Speaker 1>allowed Eminem to use that word. Very good point, very

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<v Speaker 1>good point. And so people think it's susceptible. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>just a word for some reason that people other than black.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't even put the e r at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's that's just a word that can't be used.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care how cool you are, how much you love,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have kids, you married to a black man

0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:49.880
<v Speaker 1>and all of that. That's this derogatory word for our

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<v Speaker 1>our culture, for for whatever being a black American. So

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<v Speaker 1>my question, my question to Nick would be, is I

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<v Speaker 1>how is that word used or for black Australians? How

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<v Speaker 1>do they accept that word over there? And and that

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<v Speaker 1>was the big thing in Australia. We don't tolerate that

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<v Speaker 1>at all. We were very very surprised we haven't had

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<v Speaker 1>it in our last two shows that the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>it came out. She was just very very drunk, and

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<v Speaker 1>it just shows you that I think that could happen

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere in the world, Reggie, and that's something we need

0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:27.640
<v Speaker 1>to work on the different cultures. And that well, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem and I talked to James about this off

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<v Speaker 1>record of off air. It doesn't seem like she was

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<v Speaker 1>malict about it. I think she would happen. I learned

0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:41.280
<v Speaker 1>a big lesson here man. And when she said that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have to get mad. The Australian people was

0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.680
<v Speaker 1>the people in the audience was mad. And those people,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like they all took up from me and said,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to worry about it. We got it.

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<v Speaker 1>And and and I just you know, I looked at

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<v Speaker 1>the ground and when people were just standing there like

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<v Speaker 1>really fucking mad at her. It was I ain't got

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<v Speaker 1>the same nothing. I ain't even got to come out

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<v Speaker 1>of character. These people handled that for me, and and

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<v Speaker 1>and and that was my my justification. I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to say ship man. And that's what I mean when

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<v Speaker 1>I say beautiful people. Man. You know back home, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't have matter. I didn't had to react to that. Yeah,

0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:30.080
<v Speaker 1>but no, they they reacted that for me. And and

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<v Speaker 1>that showed me right there the character and and how

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<v Speaker 1>these people really are. And it's some lovely people down there, man,

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<v Speaker 1>and I and I just gotta stress that. And I'm man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm having a great time. I'm having a great time.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, James Loum. We're gonna get into a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of topics here, and uh, even though you're all the

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<v Speaker 1>way in Australia, we're gonna, you know, include you in

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<v Speaker 1>on this conversation because we can't really do the show

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<v Speaker 1>without you. But yeah, y'all can do the show without me. Um,

0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:06.440
<v Speaker 1>y'all got y'all, got y'all here is on y'all show

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<v Speaker 1>the Man. And I just knew y'all was gonna run

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<v Speaker 1>with this without me. And then here we go again.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, my brother's black home. Want to do the

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<v Speaker 1>show with me? We're going to together. And I love

0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:21.880
<v Speaker 1>this ship, man, I love that ship. When we got

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<v Speaker 1>the technology over here to to to connect your call

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<v Speaker 1>into the studio, so um, thanks to the to the

0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:31.240
<v Speaker 1>engineers here they were able to make it happen. And

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<v Speaker 1>thank the Nick for giving us that phone bill. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna let you guys continue on thank the Alexton all

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<v Speaker 1>right now, before we get into our first topic, I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to let everyone know that O. J. Simpson

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<v Speaker 1>is at eight hundred and sixties six thousand followers on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've been talking about O Jay on and off

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<v Speaker 1>for the last few episodes, but he's approaching a million guys. Yeah,

0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:58.520
<v Speaker 1>I thought he would have been every by now. But

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<v Speaker 1>has he been active? You know, he just posted something

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<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes ago, another video. I haven't had a chance

0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:07.480
<v Speaker 1>to listen to it, but you know, he's not a

0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:14.120
<v Speaker 1>serial poster, but he's definitely keeping his Twitter account active. Well,

0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:17.000
<v Speaker 1>O J. If you want to, if you want to

0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:18.720
<v Speaker 1>get some views right quick, only they have to do

0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:21.719
<v Speaker 1>to say something about Ron Goldman and then they get up,

0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:25.399
<v Speaker 1>They get up or he can just go on his

0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:33.600
<v Speaker 1>daughter's podcast, which is it. Yeah, because he posts videos,

0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:36.280
<v Speaker 1>So he does these selfie videos so you know it's him,

0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:39.040
<v Speaker 1>or he'll have someone holding the camera recording him. So

0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:41.919
<v Speaker 1>he's actually doing videos and posting them. He just posted

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<v Speaker 1>a video, uh, twenty two minutes ago. He gotta be

0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:48.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, he gotta be a little p g because

0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:50.240
<v Speaker 1>you know he's still on probation and paroles, so you

0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:52.520
<v Speaker 1>know they'll they'll bring him in for if he gets

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<v Speaker 1>too radical. Yeah, I think he should just just relax. Man.

0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.520
<v Speaker 1>He at the point where he shouldn't even want to

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<v Speaker 1>be on so media. Yeah, he shouldn't want to be

0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:06.000
<v Speaker 1>doing ship, seen doing ship. I think you should just

0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:10.960
<v Speaker 1>don't live by the days doing him and just mindlyn business.

0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:14.919
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, I guess that's the way of him,

0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:18.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, just being O. J. Simpson. Well, he's still

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<v Speaker 1>got to keep the brand alive because there is still

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<v Speaker 1>value to the O. J. Simpson name, even though he's

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<v Speaker 1>a quote unquote an alleged double murderer. Um, there's still

0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:29.880
<v Speaker 1>a value to the O. J. Simpson name. So I'm

0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:32.479
<v Speaker 1>sure as people are saying, hey, you know, be somewhat

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<v Speaker 1>active on social media. He's not alleged. He has been

0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:39.879
<v Speaker 1>found innocent. You're correct, that's uh, but you know, that's it.

0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:43.040
<v Speaker 1>That's a debate that we're probably gonna have for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of our lives. Is really innocent? Uh? And for

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<v Speaker 1>the record, I believe he's guilty. Something came out recently.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't read it where there was some overwhelming evidence

0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:56.920
<v Speaker 1>they trying to say the Sun was the suspect. Hey,

0:18:57.000 --> 0:19:00.360
<v Speaker 1>my father told me that Jason was suspecting the one

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<v Speaker 1>back in ninety four when he got arrested. They was

0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:06.200
<v Speaker 1>said that his dad, he did it with his dad.

0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:09.720
<v Speaker 1>But I mean all of that, all of that, like,

0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:13.879
<v Speaker 1>he got found not guilty, So everybody in the emergence,

0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:16.800
<v Speaker 1>everybody at home should be like, man, Okay, he got

0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:19.760
<v Speaker 1>found not guilty. So why not leave it at that,

0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:23.760
<v Speaker 1>and and and and just move on. White America doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to leave it alone, James, I know, because because

0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:30.000
<v Speaker 1>he killed the white woman. Yeah. When the last time

0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:36.880
<v Speaker 1>we talked about the guy Zimmerman, I'm talking talking about him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well there was no question, but he did he killed

0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Travan Markin. You know, even Reggie just said he he

0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:48.200
<v Speaker 1>thinking's guilty. What does it matter. He got found not guilty,

0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:51.480
<v Speaker 1>so let's go by. Let's go by that, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. But in the minds of everybody else,

0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:58.640
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna say he's guilty because they truly believe he's guilty,

0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:01.960
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. But but he got found

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<v Speaker 1>not guilty in a court, in the court, so that

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<v Speaker 1>makes me miligant. No, it don't. He got found uh guilty,

0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:14.520
<v Speaker 1>found reliable for her death? How can you be liable

0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:18.080
<v Speaker 1>for somebody's definitely not guilty up to death because one

0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:20.040
<v Speaker 1>is a criminal case and the other is a civil case.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're using two different standards. Yeah, and that's a shame,

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<v Speaker 1>I think. Of course, we all know in the criminal

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<v Speaker 1>case you have to have a unanimous agreement with the jury.

0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:35.240
<v Speaker 1>In a civil case, you just need a majority of jurors.

0:20:35.760 --> 0:20:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was nine or eight. Yeah, nine. And

0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:44.320
<v Speaker 1>then also in the criminal case, the standard is beyond

0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:47.440
<v Speaker 1>a reasonable doubt, and in the civil case to the

0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:50.320
<v Speaker 1>standard is beyond the preponderance of evidence, which is a

0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:54.240
<v Speaker 1>lower standard. So it's easier to find someone guilty and

0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:58.320
<v Speaker 1>civil court than it is in criminal court is a

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<v Speaker 1>terrible large But oh, Jay is never gonna pay that

0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:06.080
<v Speaker 1>thirty three million. Oh, Jay, he ain't got the money doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's got the money. But even if

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<v Speaker 1>he did, well, he has property, but he moved his

0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:14.359
<v Speaker 1>property to the state of Florida. And the state of

0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Florida protects property. California doesn't protect your property. That's why

0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:21.360
<v Speaker 1>he moved to Florida. Well, that and he can live

0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:24.800
<v Speaker 1>off of hisar a month retirement from the NFL and

0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:27.080
<v Speaker 1>they can't touch his retirement. They cannot touch that. And

0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:29.720
<v Speaker 1>so hey, you know, you can just get him a

0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:32.840
<v Speaker 1>moderate house and play golf every day. And that's what

0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:36.720
<v Speaker 1>he's doing. A good A good one, ja. But I

0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:41.040
<v Speaker 1>think he you know, I'm like this, all of this

0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:43.680
<v Speaker 1>ship you've been through, and you still want to be

0:21:44.440 --> 0:21:47.440
<v Speaker 1>you still want to want to be in the public. Guy,

0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:51.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't think you should. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you you did this in Vegas and you and you

0:21:53.960 --> 0:21:56.680
<v Speaker 1>went to jail and you did time and in prison. Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>so when you come home, man, wouldn't you think that

0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:03.040
<v Speaker 1>that you would just lay low and kicked back and

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<v Speaker 1>and and not want to be seen in anything or

0:22:06.640 --> 0:22:10.119
<v Speaker 1>nobody to even think of your name. Let O. J.

0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Simpson rest And that's why I think he should have been. Well,

0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:20.440
<v Speaker 1>motherfucker's mad just hearing his name. Well, only half of

0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:22.640
<v Speaker 1>America is mad at here in his name. The other

0:22:22.720 --> 0:22:26.560
<v Speaker 1>half doesn't care, so he has at least half support.

0:22:26.680 --> 0:22:30.440
<v Speaker 1>When when when did uh blacks become half America? We

0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:35.399
<v Speaker 1>onlytent you're right, but not all whites. Not all whites

0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:38.040
<v Speaker 1>are against the jas A blacks and four old. But

0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:40.040
<v Speaker 1>when you look at it, when you do polls on it,

0:22:40.320 --> 0:22:43.920
<v Speaker 1>it's usually fifty fifty believe he's murdered. He's guilty. In

0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:47.000
<v Speaker 1>the time after that Rodney King verdict, and we were

0:22:47.119 --> 0:22:50.840
<v Speaker 1>just feeling like we were black folks was getting um

0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:53.640
<v Speaker 1>the raw deal or the short end of the stick.

0:22:54.560 --> 0:23:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Let OLJ do that bullshit now. And he wins his

0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:04.159
<v Speaker 1>trial and then he go to Vegas on some some

0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:07.120
<v Speaker 1>gangs to ship. Come on, man, it's time to sit

0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Joe last down. I like, I like oh J, but

0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:13.359
<v Speaker 1>come on, man, we need to start making sense of

0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:17.040
<v Speaker 1>our own ship. Well, eventually he's gonna reach that million.

0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:19.399
<v Speaker 1>He needs about a little more than about a hundred

0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:22.439
<v Speaker 1>hundred thirties four thousand or a hundred thirties six thousand

0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:25.920
<v Speaker 1>more followers. Hey, eight hundred thousand plus followers is not

0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:29.840
<v Speaker 1>no joke though, and just a very short period. So

0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:31.960
<v Speaker 1>he's probably gonna try to figure out a way to

0:23:32.000 --> 0:23:38.280
<v Speaker 1>monetize his followers and and do something to benefit him financially. Well,

0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:40.320
<v Speaker 1>you better put in one of his kids name. Yeah,

0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:43.560
<v Speaker 1>definitely all right. So, um, let me get to one

0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:48.360
<v Speaker 1>of the first questions of this episode. Uh, the Realist,

0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:50.760
<v Speaker 1>the producers the Realist. Someone wants to know, did the

0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Realist ever put vocals on any of Tupac songs, Reggie

0:23:56.240 --> 0:23:59.320
<v Speaker 1>or James? Do you know anything about the Realist? Well,

0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I know about the Realist, but finish wise in the

0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:06.320
<v Speaker 1>music that he did, I think better elaborate on, you know,

0:24:06.600 --> 0:24:13.760
<v Speaker 1>on that, Uh, the Realism. The Realist for those of

0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:15.719
<v Speaker 1>y'all that don't know who that is. He was an

0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:20.560
<v Speaker 1>artist on death Row at the Tupac Die Uh I

0:24:20.640 --> 0:24:26.119
<v Speaker 1>got signed about ninety seven sometimes, and he has a

0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:30.040
<v Speaker 1>voice that's kind of unique, that sounds uh like pox

0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:37.440
<v Speaker 1>like Tupacs not not. So there's always been speculation in

0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:40.719
<v Speaker 1>the community that we were allowing the Realists to uh

0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:46.399
<v Speaker 1>make tracks are our add to Tupac music. He was

0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:48.320
<v Speaker 1>an artist, not a producer. I wanted to correct you

0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:56.320
<v Speaker 1>on that, Alex, but he um Um. There's a couple

0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:59.840
<v Speaker 1>of songs that were needed to be made radio versions

0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 1>that I would now uh contest to video Unconditional Love

0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:13.240
<v Speaker 1>that we did to make it sound radio friendly, where

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:16.640
<v Speaker 1>we may have taken a curse word out and put

0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:20.400
<v Speaker 1>in a cleaner, cleaner word, and the cleaner word would

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:23.719
<v Speaker 1>have came from the realist. Wow. Has has this ever

0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:29.040
<v Speaker 1>been divulged ever before? Wow? You are giving us something

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:31.959
<v Speaker 1>that the world has never heard before. Now why has

0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 1>that been hidden for so long? Is there some sort

0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:37.160
<v Speaker 1>of liability to put someone else's voice in the song

0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:40.720
<v Speaker 1>and represented as well? It just didn't make didn't seem

0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:45.520
<v Speaker 1>authentic to the you know, the ADVIC TUPAC listener. But

0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:52.320
<v Speaker 1>but all we did was uh allow it to be

0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:56.840
<v Speaker 1>a clean version for a video Unconditional Love. So are

0:25:56.920 --> 0:26:01.360
<v Speaker 1>there parts where he put in more than the word verse?

0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:05.639
<v Speaker 1>Perhaps a word a word, a curse word was taken

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:09.560
<v Speaker 1>out and a clean word was probably put there. That

0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 1>is interesting. More than one time. The only one I

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:16.600
<v Speaker 1>can remember that I can think I was Unconditional Love

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 1>was the video that he appeared in. Um simulating the

0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:25.800
<v Speaker 1>look like Tupac in the video. So over the years

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:29.960
<v Speaker 1>go ahead. But no, he didn't know. He didn't know

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 1>him in the casino. Uh, on the casino and he

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:43.040
<v Speaker 1>heard him and he rapped for him, and he he

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:49.240
<v Speaker 1>liked him, and he uh he was you know, told

0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:52.320
<v Speaker 1>us and gave the number and we eventually hooked up

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:55.040
<v Speaker 1>with him later after Tupac thew But they did meet

0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:57.720
<v Speaker 1>each other once in the casino in Vegas. So is

0:26:57.760 --> 0:26:59.959
<v Speaker 1>that the reason why the Realist came to Death Row

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:03.440
<v Speaker 1>was from that meeting at the casino? Initially, Wow, that's

0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:05.840
<v Speaker 1>even he just bumped into the all and said, Hey,

0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:09.639
<v Speaker 1>I rapped. That happens every day and uh, but for

0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:12.159
<v Speaker 1>the follow up to be now you're at Death Row

0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:15.880
<v Speaker 1>hanging out, that's a huge accomplishment. Fan. Yeah, we did

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:21.359
<v Speaker 1>something that uh to talent talented artists, excuse me that

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:26.000
<v Speaker 1>we failed. We failed their careers. To be honest, the

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Realist was one because other than that, he was a

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:34.240
<v Speaker 1>talented rapper and we tried to have him being like Tupac.

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 1>And there was another rapper by the name of y G. D.

0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 1>We eventually called him top Dog and we and he

0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 1>sounded like Snoop Dogg. He don't want to did this

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:48.119
<v Speaker 1>song going back to Kelly when he was just in

0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Biggie for coming back to Kelly? And those are two

0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>talented young man that that careers got fleshed down the

0:27:58.080 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 1>drain because the community or the industry wasn't ready for

0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:08.240
<v Speaker 1>sounding likes. Now, did the realists ever do a demo?

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:10.959
<v Speaker 1>Did he have a demo? Did he have any recorded songs? Oh?

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:14.680
<v Speaker 1>He did several songs on Death Row, several songs on

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:21.320
<v Speaker 1>the Chronic Uh two thousand, on the Gang related soundtrack

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 1>on UM all post Tupac all post Tupac. Why why

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 1>couldn't he just continue his career in the later two

0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:34.760
<v Speaker 1>thousand's and just signed with someone else or he did

0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:37.639
<v Speaker 1>independent artists? He did? I signed you with another rate

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:40.640
<v Speaker 1>once I left that row? What a record company called

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:43.960
<v Speaker 1>to that entertainment? What? I did some music with him?

0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 1>And but I think, um, he's a hell of a

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 1>still a hell of u um writer and knows the

0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 1>music business a lot. We just unfortunately um messed up

0:28:57.120 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 1>his name by making him a sound of like. And

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 1>it's something that already always regretted that we did to him.

0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:09.560
<v Speaker 1>So over there, go ahead, James go ahead, But people

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:11.880
<v Speaker 1>didn't know that that Joel was using him for that.

0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:15.840
<v Speaker 1>So how did they know that was using him because

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:21.200
<v Speaker 1>not know that's just one incident. But you hear his

0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 1>whole album or his whole songs that he did, um,

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 1>people didn't like that. It's not I mean he did

0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 1>complete songs that um some people would think it was

0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Tupac and that wasn't deliberate. He just that's just how that. Yeah,

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't. It wasn't it delivered it a deliberate act.

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 1>And there was a guy from Compton that actually sounded

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 1>his name was black. He sounded just like Biggie. Remember

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 1>this rapper name Black wasn't black. It was sounded just

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 1>like wasn't he kind of he got a little chance.

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 1>He did a single. I believe he had something to

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:05.160
<v Speaker 1>come out. Yeah, I don't think his name was blacked

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 1>up and I knew he was talking about so the realists.

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Never has done interviews where he revealed, oh yeah, I

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 1>replaced a couple of curse words on a POC song

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:19.480
<v Speaker 1>before he stayed quiet over the years. Yeah, why's why

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:22.320
<v Speaker 1>is that? He? I mean, we told you not to

0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:25.480
<v Speaker 1>talk about it, and now I'm up here and running

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:27.800
<v Speaker 1>my big mouth and talked about it. Well, I thought, hey,

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 1>whoever asked this question? I wish I saved the guy's name.

0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I guess he was onto something asking if the realists

0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 1>ever put vocals on a POC song vocals a word? Well,

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 1>if you hear that he put a word, then you're

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 1>thinking maybe there's more than Why would I tell you

0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 1>for that? I would have kept denying it. Okay, So

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 1>now if the realist wants to come out and talk on,

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 1>and he can talk on and I guess it's been

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:54.520
<v Speaker 1>what twenty plus years? Anyway, let's move on. Let's move on.

0:30:56.200 --> 0:31:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Now he's helping your nephew right now, writing in the

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 1>studio with him helping him do some stuff and which

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 1>one little Timmy Roue Yeah, okay, and he actually did

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 1>a video with him moving there by right correct. Very talented,

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 1>you mean, he just he's not old. He's forty and

0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 1>that's senior citizen. But the boy looked with his body

0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 1>is I mean, he still looked good, you know, But yeah,

0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean he have to be a mentor. Now, how

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:31.479
<v Speaker 1>many over forty rappers could actually put out a hit?

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 1>How many has are? How many could how many haven't could?

0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 1>We could put name them on one? Yeah, jay Z's one.

0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Maybe ice Cube was another. But yep, that's true. But

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 1>you said put out one hit recently. I think method

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Man could put out a hit. That's four. I don't

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 1>think so. I think l L was done. I've heard

0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 1>his last album. There was nothing on that album. M

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 1>can get off. D X is done. He just did

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 1>a show. I saw it with someone and that was

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 1>over at the game. And when the game was that

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 1>at Long Beach? Now, so what were they were outside?

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:13.360
<v Speaker 1>They did a show on the same on the on

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:15.640
<v Speaker 1>the boat there in Long Beach. That was outside, Okay,

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 1>l A confidential. Yeah, so yeah, I think if you're

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 1>forty and over, it's it's pretty much a rap your

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 1>your rap careers. DRE probably we can put out a hit,

0:32:26.960 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 1>but he's probably not as hungry as he used to

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 1>be because of all those other business investments he's doing.

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Maybe Eminem, I think Eminem's over Snoop might be able

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:40.840
<v Speaker 1>to put out a hit again. So yeah, it's very

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:43.240
<v Speaker 1>few rappers over forty. This is a this is a

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 1>young man game. To keep it real, you know, eighteen

0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 1>eighteen to thirty and everyone else is lucky if they

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:53.440
<v Speaker 1>can still do it all right. But another question. A

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:58.320
<v Speaker 1>producer named Johnny J. Who I think he died in

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 1>the custody of the l A County Share several years ago,

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 1>right in the county jail. He died, but he was

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:10.239
<v Speaker 1>a producer, died by way of committing suicide. Yes, at

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 1>least that's the story. But someone asked if Johnny J

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 1>produced most of pop song So, if you take all

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 1>the Parks catalog from the death Row period, which is

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>the Double C D and like a few other songs,

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 1>which producer worked with Park the most on the death

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:29.240
<v Speaker 1>Row period, because I don't know all the thug life

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:33.160
<v Speaker 1>and me against the Yeah, I don't know what producers

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 1>were were around it. I know it's one name assassin

0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 1>and so. But Johnny Day get credit for doing a

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:42.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of the work because he was like Pars every day,

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 1>a producer that was always there. But the only reason

0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 1>most of those songs that we heard by Johnny J

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 1>would have never came came out. They were really studio garbage.

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Most of those songs that y'all hearing on better days

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 1>until the end of the time and whatever the other

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:05.040
<v Speaker 1>post albums were h were a lot of songs that

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 1>two podcasts pretty much scrapped, wasn't going to use and

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 1>uh so these unreleased songs that someone like Cats might own. No,

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm just kidding. That was a good one. And just

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:28.160
<v Speaker 1>what whatever happened to all the all the like the

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 1>death ro chair and all of the ship that was

0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 1>in the office, whatever happened to that stuff? James, don't

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 1>watch TV. It's a it's a show called it's a

0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:43.399
<v Speaker 1>show called storage War. He lost it in auction, man,

0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 1>you know that? And there goes the show. All the

0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 1>people that like, oh yeah, she got a hundred million

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:52.520
<v Speaker 1>dollars stashed away. Okay, he would have took out five

0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:55.400
<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars thousands of of that and wouldn't paid the

0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:57.440
<v Speaker 1>storage bill. That that was the case, so that the

0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:01.280
<v Speaker 1>people storage were actually know what they had. Yeah, because

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:05.240
<v Speaker 1>it was death row and that when they did the auction.

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't think pants that was that after. I think

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:14.239
<v Speaker 1>that was after they purchased. I think yeah after after. Yeah,

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 1>the only thing that was really work something was jacket

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:21.000
<v Speaker 1>and I'm talking about the chair and all that. Yeah,

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean you had plaids, you had unreleased you had

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 1>unreleased music in there. A couple of people said, you

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 1>know and are reported, Yeah, contracts, they there's some paperwork

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:34.760
<v Speaker 1>over somebody over there got some gold and don't realize

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:38.759
<v Speaker 1>what they have exactly. Yeah, I just I just looked

0:35:38.760 --> 0:35:41.920
<v Speaker 1>at Johnny J. And he actually did work on a

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:44.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of pop stuff pre death Row as well. So

0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 1>it might be true that Johnny J worked with POC

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:51.080
<v Speaker 1>on more songs than any other producer. Maybe someone out

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:53.360
<v Speaker 1>there can do the research on that ghost song by songs.

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, he was there every day, even the ones,

0:35:56.000 --> 0:35:58.800
<v Speaker 1>even if Das was in their producing on him, Johnny J.

0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Was right there sitting there and William he was there

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:06.840
<v Speaker 1>every day. James, did you know Johnny Jay? No, No,

0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. Uh, Like I told you, that wasn't my

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 1>side of the world. He was an event. He was

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:19.960
<v Speaker 1>what you call a staff e venner. After like ninety

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 1>four ninety he was just cold red and I mean

0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:28.440
<v Speaker 1>James and his crew showed up so he could be

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:34.399
<v Speaker 1>a cold blue knew him. Oh yeah, that James left.

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I came in. I think James ran after I came in.

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 1>He was like, oh no, I came rob this motherfucker's

0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:45.239
<v Speaker 1>I gotta go. You know what I say, And I

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:47.759
<v Speaker 1>still say the same thing because I honestly chold you

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:50.719
<v Speaker 1>I felt about that, and you know I believe that

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 1>should run you in there to to uh Tom come

0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 1>the home boys down on. You know, these cats can't

0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 1>get ready. So you know, I just it was just

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:05.480
<v Speaker 1>a mixture of things. And my thing was, you know,

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 1>you've been there and neckbone been there? How is neck

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:12.080
<v Speaker 1>bone gonna feel that you're there? And then y'all been

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:16.960
<v Speaker 1>into an oltercation? But man, can't nobody tell me I don't.

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:20.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't just I don't love Reggie Right. I don't

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:22.959
<v Speaker 1>love Reggie Right in his family. You know what I'm saying.

0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:25.880
<v Speaker 1>And I never said nothing out of line. Now I

0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:30.719
<v Speaker 1>couldn't say to you personally. Everything I've said, I've repeated it.

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:33.760
<v Speaker 1>And and you know, even though me and neck bones

0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:38.040
<v Speaker 1>don't talk, I'm there. You know I took up. I

0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:41.520
<v Speaker 1>took up for that because and you know what, let

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 1>me just say this, Neckbone came. I was around probably

0:37:45.719 --> 0:37:48.600
<v Speaker 1>a year when Neron got all the jil and came back.

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:52.480
<v Speaker 1>You do you know to this day, me and neck

0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Bone have never had a bad word said towards each other.

0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:59.600
<v Speaker 1>It was always respectful. He was always cool, you know,

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:02.400
<v Speaker 1>saying I said over there in the corner talking to

0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 1>him a lot or anything like that. But he and

0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I have never had a bad bad word. I mean,

0:38:08.040 --> 0:38:10.120
<v Speaker 1>we haven't been in the swimming pool, playing basketball at

0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 1>together and stuff like that, you know, so we we

0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 1>were able to interact and he kept the professional and

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:20.359
<v Speaker 1>um and chuck it to the side. That's that's that's

0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:23.520
<v Speaker 1>what I'm talking about, so you know, but it was just,

0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, I it pitched me off because I knew sigenda,

0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, and I knew the reason

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 1>why you know what I'm saying, so that I mean,

0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:36.960
<v Speaker 1>it is what it is. I mean, it's all over now.

0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:40.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you would and and neck Bone never got

0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:43.840
<v Speaker 1>into it because if that would have ever happened. Sure,

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I told you so what I'm saying, And that was

0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:50.800
<v Speaker 1>just that was just my concern for for both parties.

0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, neck bonus the homeboard. But you guys is

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:59.160
<v Speaker 1>like family, you know what I'm saying, And uh, it

0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:02.840
<v Speaker 1>just mixed when you when when you came in, it

0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:06.319
<v Speaker 1>just didn't mix. But I mean y'all worked it out.

0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:09.480
<v Speaker 1>And and and everybody was happy. I was the one

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:14.239
<v Speaker 1>that you know, active prematurity and said this, I'm not

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:17.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna do that. You know when when when all those

0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 1>other guys came and then me and sure wasn't saying

0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:24.120
<v Speaker 1>out of eye and and my old thing is I

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:26.400
<v Speaker 1>can sit on the side kicking in the hood and

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:29.319
<v Speaker 1>do my thing and let me ride in. That's all

0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:31.520
<v Speaker 1>about to say. Most people don't know that that that

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:37.480
<v Speaker 1>James used to run. Uh. He used to run neck

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Um Let Me Ride, which was an automobile shop that

0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Shill had opened and and and was trying to have

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:49.200
<v Speaker 1>for the fixed low riders and make low riders over

0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:54.319
<v Speaker 1>on Rose friends and low beat right off Crosser Rose

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:57.319
<v Speaker 1>Frands don't beat that actually that Pat Johnson used to own.

0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:04.279
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, uh, and so James was running that car

0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:08.919
<v Speaker 1>shop and until something stupid one of the homies told

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 1>on something that the police came and raided it and

0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:14.400
<v Speaker 1>found some stolen parts or something of stolen engine up.

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:20.719
<v Speaker 1>The motherfucker's was hated. Just tell the truth. Well you did,

0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:26.840
<v Speaker 1>you did? Public Dr dret three Chevy from from I

0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:29.319
<v Speaker 1>had it, I wouldn't give it it back. And then

0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 1>that was just that they had the opportunity to shoot.

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Knewhere I lived, and and Drey was in the hood

0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:38.400
<v Speaker 1>with him frequently, and they could have came and got

0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:41.920
<v Speaker 1>the mother. What they didn't. Dre wouldn't get into that.

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 1>What did you end up doing with that car, James? Well,

0:40:45.360 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 1>he stripped it down, stripped it down to the to

0:40:48.840 --> 0:40:52.080
<v Speaker 1>the frame. When when I felt I was tired of it,

0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:55.040
<v Speaker 1>and I told George them they come get it. And

0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:57.480
<v Speaker 1>they came and got it. They brought some tires and

0:40:58.080 --> 0:41:00.920
<v Speaker 1>roll them up forgot my yard. I help, I helped

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 1>James steal that car in a police car, not knowing

0:41:04.680 --> 0:41:09.239
<v Speaker 1>James was steal in that car on Bradfield right still

0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:11.839
<v Speaker 1>in that car, and he broke down, and he broke

0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:15.760
<v Speaker 1>down from from the car. Did you say I was still?

0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I took it. Still, it took it. You took it.

0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:21.439
<v Speaker 1>Whatever happened with the car, What happened with the car?

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 1>It has started running hot. So Dre now masked me

0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:29.320
<v Speaker 1>without taking and put it in my yard. Oh, I

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:31.759
<v Speaker 1>put it in my yard. But when he came to

0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:35.600
<v Speaker 1>get the car already had somebody working on it fit

0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:39.560
<v Speaker 1>this and I was driving the car. Now I want

0:41:39.600 --> 0:41:43.440
<v Speaker 1>to check. She didn't want to give a check. You

0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:45.439
<v Speaker 1>don't want to give me a check. You ain't getting

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:49.680
<v Speaker 1>this motherfucker for changing my thurm and stad changing the fu.

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:55.080
<v Speaker 1>He the manager of a goddamn uh. He's the manager

0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 1>of the car shot. So you had the low Rider

0:41:57.200 --> 0:42:00.800
<v Speaker 1>shop at this time, right, James, and check and you

0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:06.359
<v Speaker 1>probably changed the thermostat on that low ride and what's

0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:09.759
<v Speaker 1>the thermostat cast back then? Like six dollars stas were.

0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:14.800
<v Speaker 1>I think he was the manager, not the owner of

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:16.439
<v Speaker 1>the shop. So you know what he did. He built

0:42:16.480 --> 0:42:20.400
<v Speaker 1>and got dog on the parts to to the company.

0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:24.759
<v Speaker 1>And still but James Lyne, he ain't telling the truth

0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 1>of that. I remember pushing James in that car on

0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Bradfield and the police car all the way off. That

0:42:31.760 --> 0:42:34.200
<v Speaker 1>did happen, but that's when I got the car from

0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:38.759
<v Speaker 1>them and and it overheated again. And that's when you

0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:41.440
<v Speaker 1>will help me get it to the house. But that

0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:43.880
<v Speaker 1>was good looking out I ain't I know, I know,

0:42:44.520 --> 0:42:47.239
<v Speaker 1>but but let me just clear, Friday, I did not

0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:50.360
<v Speaker 1>know the business at that time. I wasn't even working

0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 1>at death for I don't think at that time. I

0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:56.360
<v Speaker 1>don't just just James. Then these were. These were my

0:42:56.640 --> 0:43:01.640
<v Speaker 1>tractic of getting paid multiple times. But one thing like

0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the Snoop Dogg trial, you know, I mean maybe maybe

0:43:07.040 --> 0:43:10.280
<v Speaker 1>a thirty grand just just doing it, you know, it's trial.

0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Should think I got fifth Green motherfucker's and I'm paying

0:43:16.160 --> 0:43:19.000
<v Speaker 1>them a hundred dollars a day and I'm making two

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:22.000
<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars a day. So it ended up every time

0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I came to get a check for it, I mean

0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I put I put money in my pocket. That was

0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:29.920
<v Speaker 1>my way of getting with him, and didn't didn't have

0:43:30.000 --> 0:43:31.600
<v Speaker 1>to deal with and you know what in fairness to

0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:34.240
<v Speaker 1>show back then he didn't even look at any voices

0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 1>or nothing. He didn't care. You just get the check

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:39.600
<v Speaker 1>that nig didn't even care. David Carroll would be the

0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:42.719
<v Speaker 1>one looking at the boys like what the fuck? So

0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:45.279
<v Speaker 1>what was what was Drake's reaction James when he found

0:43:45.320 --> 0:43:48.800
<v Speaker 1>out you stripped down the low Loo When we was

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:51.200
<v Speaker 1>all in the in the alley of uh at my

0:43:51.320 --> 0:43:54.040
<v Speaker 1>mom's house and then I was steading right next to

0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:55.719
<v Speaker 1>each other and he asked me, how did I like

0:43:55.880 --> 0:44:00.359
<v Speaker 1>the car? Oh man, it's cool and dry. Ain't give

0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:05.040
<v Speaker 1>a funk about that goddam car. Man, what money. Yeah,

0:44:05.400 --> 0:44:07.200
<v Speaker 1>the car that he's talking about was the one that

0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:12.359
<v Speaker 1>was in the video. Uh it was in the video thing,

0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:15.600
<v Speaker 1>nothing but nothing but the thing that's the one with Snoop. Yeah.

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Well r was sitting in there holding Marcel drean Um,

0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Mr Lan, you should have kept you should have kept

0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:25.600
<v Speaker 1>that car, James. We should have kept a lot of

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:28.719
<v Speaker 1>ship there. If we would have known what I mean,

0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I would have been a picture taking motherfucker's with the niggas.

0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I would have been taking them with strippers and everything

0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:36.040
<v Speaker 1>if I knew him. You know what what was so

0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:40.440
<v Speaker 1>crazy about that is, you know everybody talking about me

0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:43.120
<v Speaker 1>taking that car and doing what I did with it,

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:47.960
<v Speaker 1>but you can't name it's probably only three more buckers

0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:52.360
<v Speaker 1>that was in that office that wasn't spilling c these

0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:56.520
<v Speaker 1>uh flat and all of them ship. Everybody was taking

0:44:58.080 --> 0:45:01.359
<v Speaker 1>me on the other side of in the neighborhood. Yeah,

0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I had an incident with this nigga lived dog and

0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 1>and and should assistance centric. Well, let me say this,

0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:12.520
<v Speaker 1>the motherfucker's We've had a bunch of CDs. I went

0:45:12.600 --> 0:45:15.000
<v Speaker 1>to Interscope and took all our music from Interscope. At

0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:18.279
<v Speaker 1>the end of the deal. I mean boxes of mcavelly

0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:22.560
<v Speaker 1>and Tupac, you know, the motherfuckers going upstairs. I didn't

0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:24.640
<v Speaker 1>trust the Centric because I was never really in office

0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:26.799
<v Speaker 1>with the key because I had them all locked up.

0:45:27.320 --> 0:45:31.080
<v Speaker 1>They were going up to the conference swap meet taking

0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:34.720
<v Speaker 1>boxes of maccabelly's and All Eyes on Me and Snoop

0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Dogg albums and stuff like that up to the conference

0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:38.920
<v Speaker 1>wap meets in different swap means, selling the mothers for

0:45:39.000 --> 0:45:44.080
<v Speaker 1>like ten dollars of the unit boxes of UH and

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:46.880
<v Speaker 1>splitting the money, making some side money. Yeah. Man. So

0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 1>that that was the blue low Rider that Dre had, right, James,

0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:57.319
<v Speaker 1>the black the convertible. Yeah, yeah, man, I'm looking at

0:45:57.360 --> 0:45:59.480
<v Speaker 1>it right now on the video. That was a beautiful car.

0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh man. You should have seen me hitting the switches

0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:06.160
<v Speaker 1>in the motherfuckers and bitches running that card like I

0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:10.839
<v Speaker 1>was a selayer for something. Man that if you still

0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:13.239
<v Speaker 1>had that car, James, it would probably be worth about

0:46:13.280 --> 0:46:16.320
<v Speaker 1>a hundred thousand dollars because it was Dre's. D probably

0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:19.719
<v Speaker 1>would pay more than that for it. Now, yeah, but

0:46:19.760 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't have it. You wouldn't have a pink slip

0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:27.560
<v Speaker 1>for it. Though I didn't Alex. I mean you couldn't

0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:33.239
<v Speaker 1>do anything, like you couldn't sell a car with that. Yes,

0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I could down to lean on that and uh okay,

0:46:41.120 --> 0:46:45.080
<v Speaker 1>well I didn't wanna end um talking about Johnny J.

0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:48.239
<v Speaker 1>I just want to finalize he committed suicide in two

0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:50.040
<v Speaker 1>thousand and eight, and I was gonna ask where any

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:52.120
<v Speaker 1>of you guys kind of surprised, especially you read you

0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:56.239
<v Speaker 1>knew him that this guy I guess committed suicide when

0:46:56.239 --> 0:46:59.320
<v Speaker 1>he was in jail wasn't known as a criminal. He

0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:02.759
<v Speaker 1>wasn't as the Doug good dude Loki. I mean he was.

0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:05.880
<v Speaker 1>He was a Mexican brother. I mean, you know, Mexican

0:47:05.960 --> 0:47:09.160
<v Speaker 1>guy that was cool married to a black chick. This chick,

0:47:09.280 --> 0:47:11.759
<v Speaker 1>man with the type, was one of those type of

0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:15.400
<v Speaker 1>chicks that will come around with her brawl and you know,

0:47:15.560 --> 0:47:20.320
<v Speaker 1>titty hanging out and all of that. Real permissive, provocative, provocative,

0:47:21.360 --> 0:47:25.440
<v Speaker 1>all of that, but there with him every session like

0:47:25.680 --> 0:47:28.400
<v Speaker 1>right and die. You know. Now, after he committed suicide,

0:47:29.440 --> 0:47:31.120
<v Speaker 1>I talked to the realist because the realists have a

0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:33.520
<v Speaker 1>relationship with her and all of that. He says, she

0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:37.759
<v Speaker 1>walked around, she's very religious now, she's very conservative, walk

0:47:37.840 --> 0:47:40.959
<v Speaker 1>around with a bunch of clothes on and just change

0:47:41.000 --> 0:47:43.040
<v Speaker 1>their life. So it was something going on in their

0:47:43.120 --> 0:47:49.560
<v Speaker 1>lives that where they felt they needed a change. And yeah,

0:47:50.280 --> 0:47:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what what what got into Johnny Jay.

0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:55.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm sure the conspiractions out there. Oh yeah,

0:47:55.360 --> 0:47:57.239
<v Speaker 1>he was killed. He was killed. You know, you know,

0:47:57.320 --> 0:47:59.880
<v Speaker 1>guys like you, the police do everything wrong. Well, when

0:48:00.000 --> 0:48:04.240
<v Speaker 1>ever someone commits suicide in custody, it certainly should certain

0:48:04.320 --> 0:48:06.400
<v Speaker 1>questions should be asked. I don't know if there was

0:48:06.400 --> 0:48:09.200
<v Speaker 1>an investigation. I mean, if a guy, the guy wasn't

0:48:09.239 --> 0:48:14.080
<v Speaker 1>known to be a criminal, wasn't a thug, mental and

0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:17.040
<v Speaker 1>he must have had something going on perhaps so, Um,

0:48:17.600 --> 0:48:20.319
<v Speaker 1>she's definitely mental. Now, that's why she had a bunch

0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:22.200
<v Speaker 1>of songs and stuff. She won't even release the new things.

0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:24.399
<v Speaker 1>People don't came with at her, offering her all type

0:48:24.400 --> 0:48:26.920
<v Speaker 1>of money and she's just like, since you knew Johnny,

0:48:27.160 --> 0:48:30.520
<v Speaker 1>did he ever exhibit anything that would make you think, Okay,

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not surprised he committed suicide. No, but but Johnny

0:48:33.600 --> 0:48:36.440
<v Speaker 1>J did leave us and not really be around us

0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:42.560
<v Speaker 1>nineties seven ninety, you know, actually part of the park. Nine. Um,

0:48:43.560 --> 0:48:46.000
<v Speaker 1>he has stopped being around because he wouldn't sign a

0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:50.200
<v Speaker 1>publishing deal and so he was he was kicked to

0:48:50.239 --> 0:48:53.359
<v Speaker 1>the current as well. Okay, and and James, you mentioned, um,

0:48:53.560 --> 0:48:55.239
<v Speaker 1>you haven't spoke to the neckbone. I was wondering if

0:48:55.280 --> 0:48:57.480
<v Speaker 1>you could elaborate a little bit on what what kind

0:48:57.520 --> 0:49:01.080
<v Speaker 1>of falling out did you guys have, what kind of well,

0:49:01.719 --> 0:49:04.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, the neck bone and everybody else in the neighborhood.

0:49:04.520 --> 0:49:07.879
<v Speaker 1>I felt that, you know, they turned their backs when

0:49:08.040 --> 0:49:10.800
<v Speaker 1>when she got big with the neighborhood with you know,

0:49:10.960 --> 0:49:13.680
<v Speaker 1>with a bunch of your death and all that. But

0:49:14.120 --> 0:49:16.680
<v Speaker 1>was surprising to me, man, since I've been out here.

0:49:17.239 --> 0:49:22.360
<v Speaker 1>My sister something a I guess. Neck Bone was on

0:49:22.520 --> 0:49:26.440
<v Speaker 1>his spacebook and he expressed how he felled and he

0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:30.600
<v Speaker 1>was actually in jail went out to and I didn't

0:49:30.600 --> 0:49:33.320
<v Speaker 1>know that. And I just thought they just everybody just

0:49:33.440 --> 0:49:36.560
<v Speaker 1>fell on the face and earth and and and I

0:49:36.920 --> 0:49:43.279
<v Speaker 1>truly I hated everybody thinking that. Okay, man, I've I've

0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:45.520
<v Speaker 1>been there for everybody. If you got shot in the

0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:48.680
<v Speaker 1>hood and all those guys know, Mom James had to

0:49:48.719 --> 0:49:50.880
<v Speaker 1>go out there and shoot at these motherfucker's because you

0:49:50.960 --> 0:49:53.640
<v Speaker 1>can't through the hood. Mom, James had to feel like

0:49:54.080 --> 0:49:57.520
<v Speaker 1>you can't ride through here and and and nothing that

0:49:57.680 --> 0:50:03.280
<v Speaker 1>happened to you. So anyway, I plead this this post

0:50:04.560 --> 0:50:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Facebook post, right, yeah, yeah, I lead this post that

0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:12.200
<v Speaker 1>he that he posted, Man, and it was like, man,

0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:18.160
<v Speaker 1>can you paraphrases for us? Uh my, you know my

0:50:18.320 --> 0:50:20.279
<v Speaker 1>phone don't work out. I mean, no, you don't gotta

0:50:20.280 --> 0:50:21.719
<v Speaker 1>read it off your phone. I'm just saying, can you

0:50:21.800 --> 0:50:25.000
<v Speaker 1>just give us the gist of what he posted? He posted,

0:50:25.360 --> 0:50:29.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, the paint he felt with Budget's sad. You

0:50:29.560 --> 0:50:35.759
<v Speaker 1>know that the the police, theos came to him on

0:50:35.880 --> 0:50:39.200
<v Speaker 1>the yard six d sevent d and told him that

0:50:39.320 --> 0:50:41.640
<v Speaker 1>they had bad news. This is how he fouled out.

0:50:41.680 --> 0:50:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Budget was killed and they told him your brother passed

0:50:45.400 --> 0:50:48.600
<v Speaker 1>and he was taking my brother and he told him

0:50:48.680 --> 0:50:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Budget was killed and actually that they had to put

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:54.640
<v Speaker 1>him in a hole. He said no, but he wind

0:50:54.719 --> 0:50:57.719
<v Speaker 1>up going to the whole and he felt that, you know,

0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:00.719
<v Speaker 1>he had to take his anger out on something. So

0:51:01.280 --> 0:51:04.839
<v Speaker 1>he just tripped on the grips on the yard. And man,

0:51:04.920 --> 0:51:08.759
<v Speaker 1>I just like he went through what I went through,

0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:11.719
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. But here, man, here, I

0:51:11.840 --> 0:51:14.719
<v Speaker 1>am you know, judging all of these guys and I

0:51:14.880 --> 0:51:19.520
<v Speaker 1>knowing the facts of you know why or where he

0:51:19.840 --> 0:51:22.520
<v Speaker 1>was you know what I'm saying. But you know, I

0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:25.880
<v Speaker 1>told my sister and chilling, you know, I probably guys

0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:30.120
<v Speaker 1>and you know pretty that way, and I just wanted

0:51:30.160 --> 0:51:36.000
<v Speaker 1>to leave it at that. Um but man was one

0:51:36.040 --> 0:51:40.080
<v Speaker 1>of the strongest guys you'll ever come across. And he

0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:43.839
<v Speaker 1>was a quiet man, didn't then't talk, didn't talk much

0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:51.279
<v Speaker 1>at all. And um so that at that time, you know,

0:51:51.600 --> 0:51:54.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, like trade behind them. They put mirrors on

0:51:55.040 --> 0:51:58.360
<v Speaker 1>their arms and they fought it a tupa but Altre

0:51:58.520 --> 0:52:02.120
<v Speaker 1>was just you know, is that just another cat you've

0:52:02.160 --> 0:52:04.080
<v Speaker 1>been doing a bunch of y'all You're life. You grew

0:52:04.200 --> 0:52:07.719
<v Speaker 1>up in the little so you know, where's the loyalty

0:52:08.040 --> 0:52:11.000
<v Speaker 1>and that's where my that's where it was that for me.

0:52:11.560 --> 0:52:14.000
<v Speaker 1>And when we didn't get that, I when I didn't

0:52:14.040 --> 0:52:18.040
<v Speaker 1>get that, I wasn't satisfied. I you know, my Mom's

0:52:18.040 --> 0:52:21.920
<v Speaker 1>always told me these guys don't leave you, and and

0:52:22.200 --> 0:52:26.840
<v Speaker 1>these didn't keep playing families yet playing and I stuck

0:52:26.880 --> 0:52:29.839
<v Speaker 1>with that after after out and passed. I looked at

0:52:29.840 --> 0:52:33.400
<v Speaker 1>her when she told me, don't go after shore. That

0:52:33.640 --> 0:52:38.040
<v Speaker 1>god handling Parma is a motherfucking let god handling. And

0:52:38.200 --> 0:52:40.680
<v Speaker 1>she made me promise her that I wouldn't get out

0:52:40.680 --> 0:52:42.920
<v Speaker 1>there and that no damn food, she couldn't take me

0:52:43.080 --> 0:52:46.000
<v Speaker 1>boring back to prison or give you fell Okay, Mama,

0:52:46.719 --> 0:52:49.080
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. But I say this. You know,

0:52:49.239 --> 0:52:53.439
<v Speaker 1>since my mom's passed, I've lived and I fulfilled mind

0:52:53.560 --> 0:52:56.600
<v Speaker 1>my my promise to her, and I didn't do nothing.

0:52:56.680 --> 0:52:59.480
<v Speaker 1>But you know, just to hear that both say that,

0:53:00.040 --> 0:53:04.480
<v Speaker 1>just in words, Man, it bucked me up. And you know,

0:53:04.600 --> 0:53:09.279
<v Speaker 1>I got a lot of show YEA. Let me just

0:53:09.320 --> 0:53:13.239
<v Speaker 1>say this about ahead. Neck Bone broke away from us,

0:53:13.520 --> 0:53:16.080
<v Speaker 1>and like ninety seven, he went went to jail got

0:53:16.160 --> 0:53:19.880
<v Speaker 1>carton Beverly Hills for a drug case and then he

0:53:19.960 --> 0:53:23.400
<v Speaker 1>went went back to jail on the violation from when

0:53:23.440 --> 0:53:27.520
<v Speaker 1>he was arrested with me. And so he went and

0:53:27.600 --> 0:53:31.600
<v Speaker 1>at that time, and nick Bone also had a relationship

0:53:31.640 --> 0:53:33.400
<v Speaker 1>with the lady of Rage, and I believe they have

0:53:33.600 --> 0:53:37.600
<v Speaker 1>two kids together. They're not together currently, but they had

0:53:37.640 --> 0:53:40.359
<v Speaker 1>two kids I believe together. So, James, you haven't talked

0:53:40.400 --> 0:53:42.919
<v Speaker 1>to Neckbone since two thousand two, since before your brother

0:53:42.960 --> 0:53:48.160
<v Speaker 1>got killed. No, no one has really since like nineties seven,

0:53:48.280 --> 0:53:51.360
<v Speaker 1>ninety eight, he kinda went into the show from what

0:53:51.440 --> 0:53:56.200
<v Speaker 1>I hear, So maybe we can bring them together and

0:53:56.600 --> 0:53:59.000
<v Speaker 1>have a little sit down or something. He's on Facebook

0:53:59.040 --> 0:54:02.400
<v Speaker 1>actively you know when I'm gonna actually, I'm gonna actually

0:54:03.040 --> 0:54:06.840
<v Speaker 1>figure away to to just slide in and you know,

0:54:07.520 --> 0:54:12.120
<v Speaker 1>because next Moon is a is a is you know,

0:54:12.520 --> 0:54:17.239
<v Speaker 1>he make ball and and me, I'm just not finished that.

0:54:18.280 --> 0:54:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, sorry, blame all the kilt on me, which

0:54:22.200 --> 0:54:24.560
<v Speaker 1>is it is my fault, but I'm just you know,

0:54:24.760 --> 0:54:26.959
<v Speaker 1>as you know how my fuckers be assholes and ship.

0:54:27.120 --> 0:54:31.399
<v Speaker 1>But you know, two thousand and two, it's it's two

0:54:31.480 --> 0:54:35.320
<v Speaker 1>thousand and nineteen. Man, it's been seventeen years, and and

0:54:37.200 --> 0:54:39.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm in the process of just trying to let it

0:54:39.640 --> 0:54:42.840
<v Speaker 1>all go. You know, neck Bone and some of the

0:54:42.960 --> 0:54:48.200
<v Speaker 1>other guys in the room, well like never lived dog

0:54:48.280 --> 0:54:50.520
<v Speaker 1>and all those kids. I have nothing to say to

0:54:50.600 --> 0:54:55.840
<v Speaker 1>these people, you know, they if you always there the

0:54:56.000 --> 0:54:59.400
<v Speaker 1>night it happened, when when Bunty is killed, you got

0:54:59.480 --> 0:55:03.600
<v Speaker 1>all of these these people on my at my house.

0:55:05.360 --> 0:55:08.600
<v Speaker 1>And when I say let's row it's time, I got

0:55:08.680 --> 0:55:11.080
<v Speaker 1>an eight K forty seven in my motherfucking hand. And

0:55:11.160 --> 0:55:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling these cats mean row out of all of

0:55:13.920 --> 0:55:19.640
<v Speaker 1>those guys only to say, let's roll. Now, all these

0:55:19.719 --> 0:55:23.480
<v Speaker 1>guys that i'm i'm, i'm, i'm i'm working with on

0:55:23.640 --> 0:55:29.680
<v Speaker 1>a daily basis turned their backs. And these these cats,

0:55:29.800 --> 0:55:32.920
<v Speaker 1>my age, these my homies, these cats been in cards

0:55:33.040 --> 0:55:35.600
<v Speaker 1>with me. These cats doesn't hung out with me. And

0:55:35.800 --> 0:55:40.560
<v Speaker 1>and let's get them type of ship. These guys brothers

0:55:40.600 --> 0:55:45.120
<v Speaker 1>wood Wood were hurt. And and who who right there

0:55:45.200 --> 0:55:48.719
<v Speaker 1>for funk that let's go give him make James was

0:55:49.840 --> 0:55:52.200
<v Speaker 1>let's go get him. And and when my when it

0:55:52.280 --> 0:55:56.520
<v Speaker 1>happened to me, they all turned, they turned their backs,

0:55:57.080 --> 0:56:00.919
<v Speaker 1>and I felt fucked up behind that. I felt like, man,

0:56:01.160 --> 0:56:03.840
<v Speaker 1>I should go after all of these cats. But no,

0:56:04.520 --> 0:56:08.480
<v Speaker 1>it's okay because it was my fault and listening and

0:56:08.760 --> 0:56:10.840
<v Speaker 1>and and and put my life on the line for

0:56:11.560 --> 0:56:16.680
<v Speaker 1>the neighborhood. And that's what the neighborhoods did. But but James, um,

0:56:17.480 --> 0:56:18.960
<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of people getting shot, a lot

0:56:19.000 --> 0:56:21.680
<v Speaker 1>of people getting killed two thousand two. Prior to two

0:56:21.719 --> 0:56:24.600
<v Speaker 1>thousand two, I can kind of understand people saying, man,

0:56:24.640 --> 0:56:27.960
<v Speaker 1>they just killed Bounty. I ain't I ain't coming around.

0:56:28.320 --> 0:56:29.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's going on. I don't know who

0:56:29.840 --> 0:56:32.160
<v Speaker 1>shooting who. I don't know who's mad at who I could,

0:56:32.239 --> 0:56:34.120
<v Speaker 1>I could kind of understand people just saying, you know what,

0:56:34.200 --> 0:56:36.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm about to stay in the shadows for a minute.

0:56:36.840 --> 0:56:38.319
<v Speaker 1>And this is a question that I see a lot

0:56:38.360 --> 0:56:41.440
<v Speaker 1>in the comment sections, and because they want to, they

0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:44.360
<v Speaker 1>want to make it the appearance come out like we

0:56:44.480 --> 0:56:48.080
<v Speaker 1>were scared of the person that that that that committed

0:56:48.560 --> 0:56:51.520
<v Speaker 1>these assaults. Well, most people don't understand and don't know

0:56:52.160 --> 0:56:54.920
<v Speaker 1>that these people weren't into hiding. They were hiding out

0:56:54.960 --> 0:56:58.719
<v Speaker 1>in San Bernardino and stuff like that, and you know,

0:56:58.800 --> 0:57:00.600
<v Speaker 1>they were able to they had the money to be

0:57:00.760 --> 0:57:03.040
<v Speaker 1>mobile because they had their money right at the time

0:57:03.080 --> 0:57:05.839
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that, and they wasn't laying in the hood.

0:57:06.200 --> 0:57:09.239
<v Speaker 1>For all these people that's out there always like why

0:57:09.400 --> 0:57:12.400
<v Speaker 1>nothing never happened to him? Why didn't the models ever

0:57:12.520 --> 0:57:16.680
<v Speaker 1>retaliated or do anything like that? And a person that

0:57:17.560 --> 0:57:22.240
<v Speaker 1>was suspected, even though James doesn't doesn't suspect them, but

0:57:22.360 --> 0:57:27.800
<v Speaker 1>that the neighborhood did suspect did turn up dead behind us.

0:57:28.080 --> 0:57:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Just for all you people out there that always nothing

0:57:30.680 --> 0:57:34.120
<v Speaker 1>ever happened, nobody ever tried to do anything to revenge. Uh,

0:57:35.240 --> 0:57:39.960
<v Speaker 1>the depth of country. Yeah, yeah, and and and you

0:57:40.040 --> 0:57:43.480
<v Speaker 1>know I understand all of that, but it was just,

0:57:44.240 --> 0:57:46.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, you you really had to be that, you

0:57:46.440 --> 0:57:51.160
<v Speaker 1>have to really be a part of this. And and man,

0:57:51.680 --> 0:57:54.439
<v Speaker 1>me being a game member, Man I gave my whole.

0:57:55.040 --> 0:57:59.080
<v Speaker 1>I gave my hole. Man I I should have gotten that.

0:57:59.360 --> 0:58:04.000
<v Speaker 1>That was me. You know, if I had it, you

0:58:04.160 --> 0:58:07.400
<v Speaker 1>got it. If you needed a place to stay, you

0:58:07.600 --> 0:58:12.080
<v Speaker 1>got it. And and just on the game banging aspect,

0:58:12.640 --> 0:58:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I've been there by all of those guys. You couldn't

0:58:14.960 --> 0:58:17.720
<v Speaker 1>call me at four in the morning and I'm laying

0:58:17.760 --> 0:58:20.280
<v Speaker 1>on top of something and I didn't get the funk

0:58:20.360 --> 0:58:22.160
<v Speaker 1>up and just throw my pants on and I'm on

0:58:22.280 --> 0:58:25.760
<v Speaker 1>my way, you know what I'm saying. So it it

0:58:26.720 --> 0:58:29.360
<v Speaker 1>just it It did something to me. Man, it hurted me.

0:58:29.920 --> 0:58:32.160
<v Speaker 1>And and that's how I just felt. And you know,

0:58:33.040 --> 0:58:35.640
<v Speaker 1>you was you was hearing the home boys saying, don't

0:58:35.680 --> 0:58:39.080
<v Speaker 1>go to that funeral. They mean, don't go to that funeral.

0:58:39.960 --> 0:58:41.800
<v Speaker 1>You know this bunch for you know what I'm saying.

0:58:42.840 --> 0:58:48.080
<v Speaker 1>And Mountrey had cats like Magbone and and George George Williams,

0:58:48.640 --> 0:58:51.800
<v Speaker 1>George Markham, I mean, and and you know other guys

0:58:51.880 --> 0:58:54.240
<v Speaker 1>that he kicked it with his crew. You know what

0:58:54.360 --> 0:58:57.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. And you know I had mine time time

0:58:58.080 --> 0:59:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Joe Sean, you know, uh dar shoe, these were my cats.

0:59:04.240 --> 0:59:07.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm man. Couldn't nobody fun with these guys

0:59:08.080 --> 0:59:11.720
<v Speaker 1>and and man it was it was only crack. So

0:59:12.000 --> 0:59:15.280
<v Speaker 1>they have guys turn their back and and it's it's

0:59:15.320 --> 0:59:19.360
<v Speaker 1>not too many of these catches getting killed. No, they

0:59:19.400 --> 0:59:21.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to funk with George. They didn't want no

0:59:21.800 --> 0:59:24.280
<v Speaker 1>punt of that or me. You know, I was kicking

0:59:24.320 --> 0:59:27.480
<v Speaker 1>it and you know, motherfucker's sliders over to kill it.

0:59:28.360 --> 0:59:31.680
<v Speaker 1>If that was a guy, damn case shouldn't have never

0:59:31.800 --> 0:59:35.080
<v Speaker 1>bunked with the ship anywhere. They shouldn't have never became

0:59:35.200 --> 0:59:38.600
<v Speaker 1>gang bangers if they was worried about that, you know,

0:59:39.240 --> 0:59:42.920
<v Speaker 1>And you know i'd say today, you know, bunch of

0:59:42.920 --> 0:59:45.960
<v Speaker 1>you didn't listen, bunch of took the ship damn half

0:59:46.080 --> 0:59:50.320
<v Speaker 1>near half a joke until he looked at the kitchen

0:59:50.360 --> 0:59:53.240
<v Speaker 1>window and see cats at at the gate. You know

0:59:53.280 --> 0:59:57.560
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. So and it is what it is.

0:59:57.760 --> 1:00:02.480
<v Speaker 1>And I've yeah, take me back to your brother's funeral,

1:00:02.680 --> 1:00:05.800
<v Speaker 1>like who who showed up? And who were you surprised

1:00:06.240 --> 1:00:15.560
<v Speaker 1>wasn't there? Oh man, um man, I've seen Ray Ray,

1:00:15.800 --> 1:00:21.000
<v Speaker 1>j Um Crook and Eye and all those guys was there.

1:00:21.000 --> 1:00:25.480
<v Speaker 1>And mctim was there. Um damn, that was such a

1:00:25.600 --> 1:00:28.000
<v Speaker 1>long time ago. It was. It was a lot of

1:00:28.160 --> 1:00:34.920
<v Speaker 1>people there. Um should was there? Um did you? Were

1:00:34.960 --> 1:00:37.440
<v Speaker 1>you already pissed that sugar by the time the funeral happened?

1:00:38.120 --> 1:00:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, oh yeah, we had things going on. So

1:00:41.040 --> 1:00:43.400
<v Speaker 1>what was that like for sure to show up at

1:00:43.400 --> 1:00:47.040
<v Speaker 1>your brother's funeral? Showed up because my sister and my

1:00:47.200 --> 1:00:50.479
<v Speaker 1>mother and then loved ship. You know what I'm saying.

1:00:50.720 --> 1:00:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I argued and busting and custom the whole night about ship,

1:00:56.240 --> 1:00:58.240
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying And they didn't want to

1:00:58.280 --> 1:01:02.040
<v Speaker 1>believe me about once. You didn't want to believe me

1:01:02.480 --> 1:01:04.720
<v Speaker 1>about the ship that was going on, that that was

1:01:04.840 --> 1:01:08.959
<v Speaker 1>about to unfold, that was unfolding in front of everybody's face.

1:01:09.800 --> 1:01:13.760
<v Speaker 1>So seeing so here, you know, hey, what's up? And

1:01:14.440 --> 1:01:16.120
<v Speaker 1>you know he over there in the crowd with with

1:01:16.360 --> 1:01:20.400
<v Speaker 1>with with Jimmy and all those other cats. I didn't.

1:01:20.440 --> 1:01:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I didn't too much really ship that day.

1:01:23.640 --> 1:01:26.960
<v Speaker 1>And you know it was just so many people that

1:01:27.160 --> 1:01:29.880
<v Speaker 1>came out. That was the coolest thing about it, But

1:01:30.120 --> 1:01:33.440
<v Speaker 1>you had a very big you never seen you never

1:01:33.520 --> 1:01:37.200
<v Speaker 1>watched the video, the one that the tape that you

1:01:37.280 --> 1:01:40.680
<v Speaker 1>gave me. No, I haven't had a chance to connect

1:01:40.760 --> 1:01:44.200
<v Speaker 1>it to my uh my MacBook yet, but I'm definitely

1:01:44.240 --> 1:01:47.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna work on that real soon, man, I'm telling you.

1:01:47.440 --> 1:01:51.680
<v Speaker 1>It was. It was yet. Yeah, they did tribute songs. Um,

1:01:51.840 --> 1:01:56.640
<v Speaker 1>they performed well, I think well Mr Lay performed there. Okay,

1:01:56.720 --> 1:01:58.680
<v Speaker 1>So so who didn't show up? And who was you

1:01:58.800 --> 1:02:02.760
<v Speaker 1>shocked that didn't want to pay their respects? I'll say, um,

1:02:02.840 --> 1:02:05.240
<v Speaker 1>I was wone that that that probably should have went

1:02:05.360 --> 1:02:09.840
<v Speaker 1>that didn't Wait, Reggie, you didn't go to funeral? No.

1:02:10.440 --> 1:02:13.120
<v Speaker 1>I was having problems with Death Row as a whole.

1:02:13.640 --> 1:02:15.760
<v Speaker 1>As a whole at that time. This was two two

1:02:15.800 --> 1:02:19.720
<v Speaker 1>thousand two. I had just broke up. Go ahead, I

1:02:19.800 --> 1:02:23.680
<v Speaker 1>don't remember I thought you. I wasn't. I wasn't. Well,

1:02:23.760 --> 1:02:28.960
<v Speaker 1>he just he just revealed he didn't show up. I called, um, well,

1:02:29.120 --> 1:02:33.760
<v Speaker 1>your brother Timmy and talked to him that day. But

1:02:34.240 --> 1:02:37.240
<v Speaker 1>there was things that was being said, and you know, accusations,

1:02:37.320 --> 1:02:40.640
<v Speaker 1>and I wasn't feeling shooven and a lot of the

1:02:40.720 --> 1:02:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Death Row crew at that time did you feel like

1:02:42.680 --> 1:02:47.320
<v Speaker 1>it was just getting dangerous? And I was mad at him.

1:02:47.400 --> 1:02:49.240
<v Speaker 1>They were picking on one of a guy that I

1:02:49.360 --> 1:02:54.000
<v Speaker 1>was close with, and uh, and I didn't appreciate it.

1:02:54.760 --> 1:02:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I was pretty much considering myself at war with him

1:02:57.120 --> 1:03:00.400
<v Speaker 1>at that time because of some things that who not

1:03:00.520 --> 1:03:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Bountry and not James or in now, but some things

1:03:03.520 --> 1:03:07.840
<v Speaker 1>that people that was around that for all the time. Okay, well, James,

1:03:07.920 --> 1:03:09.760
<v Speaker 1>you just found out Reggie didn't go to your brothers,

1:03:09.840 --> 1:03:13.880
<v Speaker 1>and honestly believe that I thought I thought I saw

1:03:14.040 --> 1:03:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Reggie and Reggie right seeing. I think Reggie seen you

1:03:17.320 --> 1:03:21.360
<v Speaker 1>was there, but I didn't go. Okay, I didn't even

1:03:21.400 --> 1:03:24.840
<v Speaker 1>know that, man, And I truly thought that that you

1:03:25.080 --> 1:03:28.200
<v Speaker 1>came in and everybody that came to support it, and

1:03:28.440 --> 1:03:33.600
<v Speaker 1>it was just so many people there. Wow, Um, I

1:03:33.680 --> 1:03:36.120
<v Speaker 1>didn't I didn't know. I didn't know that. I didn't

1:03:36.160 --> 1:03:38.960
<v Speaker 1>know that. Yeah, me and Bob Gott he didn't both

1:03:39.000 --> 1:03:42.200
<v Speaker 1>then come. We It was something that we both deeply regretted,

1:03:42.280 --> 1:03:45.280
<v Speaker 1>but it probably would have been an ugly scene if

1:03:45.360 --> 1:03:47.520
<v Speaker 1>we did show up. But do you really think you

1:03:47.640 --> 1:03:49.280
<v Speaker 1>and Sugar would have got into it? Redd at the

1:03:49.320 --> 1:03:51.480
<v Speaker 1>funeral or something like in the parking lot or some

1:03:51.680 --> 1:03:55.200
<v Speaker 1>argument would have ensued. It wasn't mainly even with Sugar.

1:03:55.200 --> 1:03:57.400
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't feeling cool with Sugar at the time, but

1:03:59.120 --> 1:04:03.440
<v Speaker 1>some of the people that was, wow, that's interesting there, man,

1:04:03.640 --> 1:04:08.680
<v Speaker 1>this is like that, yeah, that is and you know

1:04:09.360 --> 1:04:12.640
<v Speaker 1>my emotions and and you know, because at that time, man,

1:04:12.720 --> 1:04:16.200
<v Speaker 1>my mom she pretty much blamed me, you know what

1:04:16.280 --> 1:04:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. And she actually told me, she said, she

1:04:20.200 --> 1:04:24.040
<v Speaker 1>said to me, why I couldn't have been you, you know,

1:04:24.560 --> 1:04:28.800
<v Speaker 1>and and I was fucked up behind that and and

1:04:28.960 --> 1:04:33.080
<v Speaker 1>my sister and then was like wow, you know, and man,

1:04:33.200 --> 1:04:37.120
<v Speaker 1>that that that would again in my heart, put again

1:04:37.200 --> 1:04:40.120
<v Speaker 1>in my heart. And from that day, man, I've always

1:04:40.240 --> 1:04:42.560
<v Speaker 1>believed that if I wouldn't have never just broke a

1:04:42.560 --> 1:04:45.640
<v Speaker 1>bunch you to this bullshit, the manter be here doing

1:04:45.680 --> 1:04:50.520
<v Speaker 1>this thing with his son and his grand kids. And man,

1:04:52.120 --> 1:04:55.600
<v Speaker 1>that my mother, she she actually and I'm glad that

1:04:55.800 --> 1:04:58.560
<v Speaker 1>me and her had our time to really just sit

1:04:58.680 --> 1:05:03.320
<v Speaker 1>back and talk about it and and you know, make

1:05:03.360 --> 1:05:05.880
<v Speaker 1>amends with all of that. Ship. Well, James, it sounds

1:05:05.880 --> 1:05:08.560
<v Speaker 1>like you blame yourself a lot for Sugar and your

1:05:08.560 --> 1:05:12.280
<v Speaker 1>brother's relationship. But I feel like if you didn't introduce them,

1:05:12.800 --> 1:05:15.480
<v Speaker 1>your brother would have eventually started messing with people in

1:05:15.520 --> 1:05:18.600
<v Speaker 1>death Row because they were in the hood. No, No,

1:05:18.760 --> 1:05:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Bunchy would have with it. I don't

1:05:21.160 --> 1:05:23.480
<v Speaker 1>think half of them cats would have been there, especially

1:05:23.520 --> 1:05:25.920
<v Speaker 1>the crew that bunch. But look how many people from

1:05:26.040 --> 1:05:28.439
<v Speaker 1>Looters and mob we're messing with death Row. You don't

1:05:28.440 --> 1:05:31.720
<v Speaker 1>think your brother would that circle. James and Bunty pretty

1:05:31.760 --> 1:05:35.320
<v Speaker 1>much about about for him, heron and they all was

1:05:35.320 --> 1:05:38.800
<v Speaker 1>pretty much about. You know, I think I believe this

1:05:39.240 --> 1:05:42.360
<v Speaker 1>and anybody had changed. Me and Bunty had bumped heads

1:05:42.440 --> 1:05:44.720
<v Speaker 1>on on the mount and ship, me and bunch Ofy

1:05:44.800 --> 1:05:47.840
<v Speaker 1>had had I got a hole in my mother's sucking

1:05:47.960 --> 1:05:50.920
<v Speaker 1>arm for you know, biting with bunt of You know,

1:05:51.800 --> 1:05:54.600
<v Speaker 1>me and my brother's pulled guns on each other when

1:05:54.680 --> 1:05:57.400
<v Speaker 1>we didn't like ship and for us to understand what

1:05:57.520 --> 1:06:01.240
<v Speaker 1>the other one was saying, that was us, you know

1:06:01.280 --> 1:06:02.960
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. But at the end of the day,

1:06:02.960 --> 1:06:06.560
<v Speaker 1>because nobody coming funk with Buntry, couldn't nobody fun with Timmy,

1:06:07.200 --> 1:06:10.320
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. But I just felt like

1:06:10.440 --> 1:06:13.200
<v Speaker 1>if I wouldn't have, if I wouldn't if I wouldn't

1:06:13.200 --> 1:06:16.360
<v Speaker 1>have just introduced him to the ship. If I wouldn't

1:06:16.360 --> 1:06:19.439
<v Speaker 1>introduce them to the ship and some ships on his way,

1:06:19.840 --> 1:06:24.200
<v Speaker 1>and wouldn't even tripped children when he came back to

1:06:24.320 --> 1:06:26.840
<v Speaker 1>the hood like that, he probably wouldn't incorporate it off

1:06:26.960 --> 1:06:30.200
<v Speaker 1>of course with all those other cats, but just stay

1:06:30.200 --> 1:06:32.240
<v Speaker 1>out of the room. So if they'd have found a

1:06:32.320 --> 1:06:34.760
<v Speaker 1>way to get getting these two ships, I don't know, man,

1:06:35.320 --> 1:06:38.240
<v Speaker 1>But you know my mom's made me feel that way.

1:06:39.680 --> 1:06:43.400
<v Speaker 1>She made me feel that way, you know. Um at

1:06:43.480 --> 1:06:47.120
<v Speaker 1>that time, Bunty, we bought, we bought moms in Carden.

1:06:48.000 --> 1:06:50.640
<v Speaker 1>I gave her five thousand, bunch of gave her eight thousands.

1:06:51.320 --> 1:06:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's my favorite. You know what I'm saying. She

1:06:54.560 --> 1:06:59.040
<v Speaker 1>needed a Washington drive, a bunch of body Washington drive

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<v Speaker 1>to go hunting bugs. Buntry is my favorite, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. So you know, when he died, it

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<v Speaker 1>was like, why couldn't have them? Me and and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care what nobody says, the think for your mother

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<v Speaker 1>to say how much? So too? Man, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Did you see uh boys in the hood.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what the mother said that I wasn't nothing like

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't give me a dude, all that stream of

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<v Speaker 1>the bullish it and it wasn't there. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>why it couldn't be me, and and and and we

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't understand that ship. Damn. You know, you know my

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<v Speaker 1>mom's never help you. I'm sure she appreciate your growth now,

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<v Speaker 1>um like we all do. Yeah, and how did you

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<v Speaker 1>showed them? And this is what most people don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>When James and I first back were reconnected, when I

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<v Speaker 1>used to call me on and said, Shank, James, can

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<v Speaker 1>you do a show for me? Like, yeah, yeah, a

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<v Speaker 1>little rich or juny, we'll knock that out. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>right now and at the hospital, not the hospital, at

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<v Speaker 1>the clinic with Moms, and so I'll call you back later.

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<v Speaker 1>James was the one that was taking Moms to the

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<v Speaker 1>hospital s they Woden moved out from his girl house

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<v Speaker 1>and started staying with Moms over there to help her

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<v Speaker 1>out while she was fighting up the last the last

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<v Speaker 1>two years of my mama fighting cancer. All right, when

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<v Speaker 1>she was hungry, I could for her, when when she

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to go or needed to go to the doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>I was there for I took this. Uh, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care what time. It was she wanted to eat. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been the only thing I didn't do is babe and

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<v Speaker 1>clothed because she was doing that on our own. Um

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<v Speaker 1>that two years, me and my mama got we got closed,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean just it's it's it's it's all good,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, exact. I got a lot of closure with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of ship about you know, my props and

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<v Speaker 1>and the things that he did. And you know, she

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<v Speaker 1>explained a lot of ship to him, which I never wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I never wouldn't understood that ship. But her last two years, man,

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<v Speaker 1>we got cool. We got cool, and see what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>She would be very very very very proud of your brother.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just I just appreciate the fact that she

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<v Speaker 1>her apology meant everything to me. You know, it was everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was the best part of it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>me and my mom's got argue. You know, my mama

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<v Speaker 1>was a gangster. She shot pop back in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>and she shot the shot the sucking air off she was.

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<v Speaker 1>She was with business. Yeah, But I right, James, rest

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<v Speaker 1>in peace to Mahelia McDonald and um, I'm sure she

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<v Speaker 1>appreciates everything you're doing now, man, And I want to

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<v Speaker 1>let all the listeners know thank you for listening to

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<v Speaker 1>another episode of The Gangster Chronicles. This was episode eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>and it featured Mr James McDonald all the way from Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks James for calling in because we really appreciate doing

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<v Speaker 1>the show as a trio. And I want to tell

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<v Speaker 1>everyone that's listening on iTunes to definitely give us a

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<v Speaker 1>rating and a review, and you could also suggest topics

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<v Speaker 1>and ideas that you want us to talk about on

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<v Speaker 1>future episodes. UM And if you're listening on on Spotify

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<v Speaker 1>and UM radio dot com, that's possible to through a

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<v Speaker 1>laptop and a computer. And if you're new to the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast and you're just listening to the episode eighteen for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time, go back and listen to some previous episodes. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the last episode, Rumors, was one of our most popular,

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<v Speaker 1>episode number seventeen, and the episode before that, the next episode,

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<v Speaker 1>was number sixteen. But I've been getting a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>messages from people who have been binge listening and they're

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<v Speaker 1>going all the way to episode one, So don't hesitate

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<v Speaker 1>to go to episode one and listen to all of them,

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<v Speaker 1>because you can do this while you're jogging while you're

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<v Speaker 1>working out while you're doing your thing. And again, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to thank everyone out there for listening to The

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<v Speaker 1>Gangster Chronicles. Don't forget that you can listen to Reggie

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<v Speaker 1>Wright Jr. On Bomb First. You could also check me

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<v Speaker 1>out on Street TV. And that concludes this episode and

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<v Speaker 1>we are out, all right, James, this has better digital

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<v Speaker 1>Soapbuch Network production