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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.
Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, September twenty fifth, twenty nineteen, season fifteen,
Speaker 1: episode number fifty one. Welcome to the latest edition of
Speaker 1: The Break. We're live the s WBC Mortgage Studios at
Speaker 1: the Star. Got Nick and Dave dating back with us today, Right,
Speaker 1: we get a bonus a day of Danny special guest. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it should be fun here. We got a lot
Speaker 1: to talk about. This is I think the first week
Speaker 1: that we've been doing this show this season where where
Speaker 1: we're going to have our look at the opponent, and
Speaker 1: it actually feels like there's a lot to talk about
Speaker 1: when you talk about all the personnel that they have.
Speaker 1: Dave's gonna have his breakdown of the Saints offense and
Speaker 1: we'll get into that today. Tomorrow we'll talk about their defense.
Speaker 1: But when you start going through this thing, there are
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that you have to talk about,
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that can be potential weapons for
Speaker 1: this team, probably more than any other team that we've
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys have faced this season. We'll get into
Speaker 1: that in just a second before we go there, though,
Speaker 1: I did want to talk first about a couple of
Speaker 1: guys that are coming back from injuries, a couple of
Speaker 1: guys that are still on the injury report. Catch us
Speaker 1: up on Xavier Woods and Tavon Austin. We'll let Dave
Speaker 1: did that. They're both at practice, good both. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're both expected to be limited. But you know, if
Speaker 1: you're a veteran and you're practicing on Wednesday, it's always
Speaker 1: a good sign. That's where they're at. Yeah, I mean, like, well,
Speaker 1: you got to watch it for the rest of the week.
Speaker 1: But you know, we talked about it yesterday. The four
Speaker 1: to six week prognosis for Xavier Woods looks pretty faulty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's been less than two and he's practicing again,
Speaker 1: so keep an eye on him. But if you're a
Speaker 1: veteran and you're practicing on Wednesday, that's usually a really
Speaker 1: good sign. Antoine Woods and tarn Crawford. Tarn Crawford not
Speaker 1: practicing and that's not surprising. Luke Gifford it's back, and
Speaker 1: that is a little not surprising. I mean, it makes sense,
Speaker 1: but it's just kind of out of sight, out of mind,
Speaker 1: Like haven't seen him since he heard his ankle in
Speaker 1: San Francisco. That was August tenth. Been a long time.
Speaker 1: So he's out there practice brain right, Yeah, which looked
Speaker 1: like a broken ankle that was coming off. I mean,
Speaker 1: but you know, the interesting part there is they kept
Speaker 1: him on this team for the whole time, you know,
Speaker 1: and I know they've talked about it a lot. That
Speaker 1: kept him on the training camp roster. They he had
Speaker 1: made the team. I think that was probably the most
Speaker 1: expensive interception ever to get an interception and then get
Speaker 1: hurt like that, because like, okay, you're on the team,
Speaker 1: you're done enough to be here. But to be here,
Speaker 1: he's probably they're expecting him to be a special teams guy,
Speaker 1: may be active. So I'm I'm interested to see when
Speaker 1: he gets healthy, is he going to have a role
Speaker 1: on special teams and whose spot does he think? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's funny the nature of this thing because back at
Speaker 1: training camp, it's like he's so impressive. He's this undrafted
Speaker 1: rookie linebacker and he already made the team even though
Speaker 1: he can't practice. And now it's like, well, this is
Speaker 1: the guy that they've did all this work to hold onto. Like,
Speaker 1: let's see something. And I'm not saying that he's going
Speaker 1: to start or anything, but for all of the work
Speaker 1: that they did to keep him on this team, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't think that he's going to live up to those expectations,
Speaker 1: even if it's just as a special teamer. Yeah, it'll
Speaker 1: be interesting to see as time goes on what his
Speaker 1: role will be and how much they can work him in. Obviously,
Speaker 1: this is a team that's very, very deep the linebacker position,
Speaker 1: so really special teams becomes his opportunity if he's going
Speaker 1: to get me play any real significant playing time. So
Speaker 1: let's move on. Let's talk about the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 1: Let's start. Dave, give us your your breakdown of this
Speaker 1: fence and what you've seen as you started looking at
Speaker 1: the tape on these guys. Did you watch the game
Speaker 1: on Sunday? I did? Did you watch it? Danny? Yes? Nick? So, yeah,
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara is really really good football player. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: I mean, that's really my that's my breakdown. M not really,
Speaker 1: but if you watch that game, not surprisingly with a
Speaker 1: backup quarterback in the game who hasn't started in three years,
Speaker 1: they really took the pressure off of Teddy Bridgewater and
Speaker 1: put it all on Alvin Kamara. I would venture a
Speaker 1: guest I don't cover the Saints, I would venture a
Speaker 1: guest that that is the most they have ever leaned
Speaker 1: on him, and he delivered. He did it all for them.
Speaker 1: He had ninety two rushing yards, no, ninety two receiving yards,
Speaker 1: excuse me, and he caught what nine passes sixty sixty
Speaker 1: six or sixty nine rushing yards. I've got it for you, sorry,
Speaker 1: on sixteen attempts, which was interesting because in the previous
Speaker 1: two games he'd averaged thirteen. He had thirteen carries on
Speaker 1: both those two games at sixteen in this game, sixteen
Speaker 1: little bit of an increase, not a huge increase. Sixteen
Speaker 1: carries for sixty nine yards and a touchdown. Really nice
Speaker 1: output on his part. Nine receptions for ninety two yards
Speaker 1: and another touchdown. Brought this up in Jason Garrett's press conference.
Speaker 1: The amazing thing is, honestly, he would have had a
Speaker 1: pretty pedestrian day. If the Seahawks could have gotten him
Speaker 1: on the ground. I mean, if you watch the tape
Speaker 1: of this game, he is banging off linebackers, dragging safeties.
Speaker 1: He dragged Jadeveon Clowney at one point in this game,
Speaker 1: a sixteen yard run right up the gut. Clowney grabs
Speaker 1: onto his waist and he just carries him for like
Speaker 1: five yards. He's like, that's cool. Number one overalls, like
Speaker 1: you just described Jerome Bettis's career honestly average. If they
Speaker 1: would have gotten him on the ground. You you said
Speaker 1: it yesterday. Is like the perception because of what they
Speaker 1: asked him to do, is that he's like a scap back,
Speaker 1: like you know, Darren Sproles was so successful in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: It's just not true. Jason Garrett said it today. Heat
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifteen pounds. He was running between the
Speaker 1: tackles and these are not like, yeah, these are not
Speaker 1: bad players that he was demolishing. Like Bobby Wagner and
Speaker 1: kJ Wright are fantastic linebackers, and he made them look
Speaker 1: really bad. He scored from thirty two yards out on
Speaker 1: a It was like third and thirteen. It was a
Speaker 1: clear out screen, like let's see if we can get
Speaker 1: in position for a fuel goal. And it's right before
Speaker 1: the half and he just he dragged half the defense
Speaker 1: and scored a touchdown. This is so exciting, really is
Speaker 1: because Steven Jones said that Tony Pollard is Alvin Kamara
Speaker 1: just going to be Alvin Kamara, Right, Yeah, he did
Speaker 1: say that. So this is what Tony Pollard's going to
Speaker 1: be to get I wanna and you mentioned it, You
Speaker 1: mentioned it like this is an offense with a lot
Speaker 1: of talent on it. Just in general though, and honestly,
Speaker 1: I don't think the Saints get enough credit for what
Speaker 1: they've done on their offensive line, Like everybody gives the
Speaker 1: Cowboys so much credit. Just looking at it, you start
Speaker 1: to Ron Armstead that left tackle, he's a third round pick.
Speaker 1: Andrews Pete at left guard who was drafted to be
Speaker 1: a tackle, but he's a first round pick playing guard.
Speaker 1: Eric McCoy was their first pick in the second round.
Speaker 1: I believe in the high or in the low thirties. Like,
Speaker 1: he's a very good second round pick out of Texas
Speaker 1: A and m Larry Warford. They got it in free agency,
Speaker 1: but he was a high draft pick. Back in his day.
Speaker 1: And then Ryan Ramchick, which everybody talks about t J. Watt.
Speaker 1: Ryan Ramchick was drafted thirty first overall in that draft,
Speaker 1: which you know, I think the Cowboys are happy with
Speaker 1: Lyle Collins, but they could have gotten themselves a Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl caliber wright tackle as well. You know, you know
Speaker 1: you watched Inside the NFL at all. They it's Michael
Speaker 1: Irvin's on it now, I think filling in for ray Lewis.
Speaker 1: But Phil Sims said yesterday or he said it on
Speaker 1: the show, that the Saints have the best offensive line
Speaker 1: of football better than Dallas, and he actually picked the
Speaker 1: Saints to win the game just because of that. Now, yes,
Speaker 1: he doesn't like the Cowboys. What he's the anti Irvin
Speaker 1: when it comes to that, But he did say Dallas
Speaker 1: is the number two team in the NFL as far
Speaker 1: as overall team, but he thinks this Sael win because
Speaker 1: of their line. Their offensive line is really impressive. Michael
Speaker 1: Thomas is awesome, trey Quon Smith is a third round
Speaker 1: slot number three receiver, and then you've got Ted Ginnu
Speaker 1: still run and they can still run. Where do I
Speaker 1: want to start? Which, Okay, if you go watch this game, though,
Speaker 1: it was like it was a perfect storm for Teddy
Speaker 1: Bridgewater to succeed because their undrafted punt returner Deante Harris
Speaker 1: returns a punt for a touchdown for an early lead
Speaker 1: from the get Fifteen minutes later they break a seven
Speaker 1: seven tie with a defensive touchdown. Chris Carson fumbles for Seattle,
Speaker 1: so you get fourteen of your thirty three points from
Speaker 1: your defense and special teams. And then the rest of
Speaker 1: this was trying to not put this game on Teddy Bridgewater.
Speaker 1: I've said this a few times, but I retweeted it
Speaker 1: earlier this week. Somebody cut up every completion, all right, No,
Speaker 1: actually every throw of Teddy Bridgewater's game. He threw one
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy seven yards, which should lead you to
Speaker 1: know this was dink and dunk city, Like I think.
Speaker 1: I counted three balls that went further than fifteen yards downfield.
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas five catches for fifty four yards. I wrote
Speaker 1: this down last night. Where's he at? Where are you at?
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas crossing route for I checked three reception quickly,
Speaker 1: a quick slant to pick up a third and fourteen,
Speaker 1: a ten yard out route, an eight yard curl six
Speaker 1: yard crossing route and then his touchdown was a bubble
Speaker 1: screen on the goal line where he caught it at
Speaker 1: the half inch line and fell into the end zone.
Speaker 1: Which I don't blame Michael Thomas for this. I think
Speaker 1: it's just smart play calling. You talk about putting your
Speaker 1: quarterback in a position to succeed. Again. You know, Drew
Speaker 1: Brees is a guy that can manipulate the pocket, throw
Speaker 1: down the seams, put the ball anywhere he wants to.
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater is not that guy, at least not in
Speaker 1: his first start in three years on the road, and
Speaker 1: they played that way, and it's amazing to me, you know,
Speaker 1: I know Alvin Kamara is really good, but it's amazing
Speaker 1: to me that it worked that well. That's my main
Speaker 1: impression from this game is they were like, let's manufacture
Speaker 1: as many touches as we can for this running back
Speaker 1: and see how far he can carry us. And he
Speaker 1: carried them to a pretty lopsided win. I know they
Speaker 1: won by six, but Seattle scored that last touchdown literally
Speaker 1: on the last play of the game. And one of
Speaker 1: the interesting things in my opinion about that is when
Speaker 1: you look at Seattle, I would think the part of
Speaker 1: their defense that's probably the best at this point is
Speaker 1: their linebackers. And so you would think a game where
Speaker 1: the Saints come in and say we're going to rely
Speaker 1: on this running game, you would think that that flies
Speaker 1: in the face of what Seattle does the best. And
Speaker 1: you're right, they were getting just like blown away. I
Speaker 1: mean I was. I was shocked on one play with
Speaker 1: kJ Wright just basically got got bulldozed and and I
Speaker 1: was like, that's that's kJ right. I mean like it
Speaker 1: just didn't it didn't play the way I thought it
Speaker 1: would play. And it made me think again, going back
Speaker 1: to what you were saying about this offensive line. I
Speaker 1: think they're a big part of it, but I think
Speaker 1: Kamar also runs with some power and teams have to
Speaker 1: be aware of that. Yeah, but you know, grows to
Speaker 1: sixteen times for sixty nine yards. I mean we're not
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, a great day. Actually, now, he
Speaker 1: that's not what those nine catches, yeah, and a lot
Speaker 1: of those are round the line of scrimmage and he's
Speaker 1: making plays and all that. I look back at this
Speaker 1: game and think that, you know, Russell Wilson and and
Speaker 1: then saying the Seattle offense didn't do what they needed
Speaker 1: to do early. And so that's what the Cowboys. If
Speaker 1: they can put Bridgewater in a situation where you just
Speaker 1: can't denk and dunk like this, you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: throw it. And that's what Seattle didn't wasn't able to do.
Speaker 1: And I do think that's that's important. Is I mean
Speaker 1: fourteen I think the Saints went into Yeah, Saints went
Speaker 1: in a half time with twenty points. Fourteen of them
Speaker 1: came from defense and special teams. They get down, they
Speaker 1: get into the end zone in the last possession of
Speaker 1: the first half. I think that's huge, just putting them
Speaker 1: up and allowing them to play this conservative game plan,
Speaker 1: because I agree with you, they do have weapons. But
Speaker 1: like all right, outside of Kamara, this is this is
Speaker 1: what they did on offense. Bridgewater scrambled three times for twelve.
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill had a gadget run for five. Latavius Murray,
Speaker 1: who they brought in to be their new ingram. I
Speaker 1: don't think that's going to happen, by the way. I
Speaker 1: just whether he's just lost it or whether Kamara is
Speaker 1: just that good. He carried the ball two times for
Speaker 1: two yards. Zach Lyne, their fullback, came in on the
Speaker 1: goal line and got stuffed. In the receiving game, you
Speaker 1: got Thomas and Kamara. Then after that, Ted Ginn caught
Speaker 1: two balls for fifteen yards, Jared Cook caught one for seven,
Speaker 1: Hill had a gadget catch for five yards, and then
Speaker 1: Josh Hill, their tight end, had one catch for four yards.
Speaker 1: Like lots of star power up here. And then honestly,
Speaker 1: I don't like, they don't have anybody else that really
Speaker 1: scares me. And I think it would be different if
Speaker 1: Drew Brees was there because he can make anybody look good. Well,
Speaker 1: the one thing I went through out there, I think
Speaker 1: you have to remember that they were on the road
Speaker 1: and playing in one of the loudest stadiums in the
Speaker 1: league with this new quarterback. So I would say that
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a little bit of a different situation
Speaker 1: than them playing in the Dome. And the one thing
Speaker 1: I know about their head coach, he is a guy
Speaker 1: that knows how to manufacture offense using a lot of
Speaker 1: different weapons. And so we were there years ago when
Speaker 1: I remember a fullback that I don't even remember the
Speaker 1: dude's name, but he just crazy over out boys Carney, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was it Carney. I don't know who it was.
Speaker 1: It was. It was a fullback, and the point was
Speaker 1: the point I'm making about Yeah, the point I'm making
Speaker 1: about that is this isn't you want to talk about
Speaker 1: all these young guys in the NFL who are considered
Speaker 1: to be brainy acts and know how to manufact your offense. Well,
Speaker 1: Sean Payton's been doing it before those guys, and he's
Speaker 1: every bit as good as those guys in my opinion,
Speaker 1: and knowing how to get his offense to function. That
Speaker 1: game was in Dallas, I believe. I think Ridgewater is
Speaker 1: going to have longer passes. So I think this is
Speaker 1: going to be very different than what we saw because,
Speaker 1: first of all, he has the confidence from that first win.
Speaker 1: He now has more time practicing and more comfort with
Speaker 1: with his players. I think it's going to be different.
Speaker 1: I think it's not just going to be the what
Speaker 1: you get the dunk City what you call it in conduity. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it'll be different. I think you're right. I
Speaker 1: don't think it'll look exactly like that, but I do.
Speaker 1: I feel silly saying it because it's easy to argue
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas is one of the three best receivers in
Speaker 1: the game. But I just don't know that they have
Speaker 1: the personnel to just go downfield on this defense, like
Speaker 1: I mean, which ironically DeVante Parker hurt them in the
Speaker 1: first half of that game against Miami. But I would
Speaker 1: be surprised to see them just chunking it downfield often
Speaker 1: at least I don't know that that really is. Honestly,
Speaker 1: that's not even a big part of the offense. When
Speaker 1: Breeze is there over the last year or so, I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a guy. He can still throw. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he can't throw, but I don't think that's the biggest
Speaker 1: part of their offense. I think there's the type offense
Speaker 1: that can work their way down the field and they
Speaker 1: can use every part of the field. And that's what
Speaker 1: I was meaning by by what their coach brings them.
Speaker 1: He'll he really forces the defense to cover every single
Speaker 1: part of the field because he'll use the tight end
Speaker 1: in one area, and he'll use a running back in
Speaker 1: one area, and he'll use this third receiver in another area,
Speaker 1: and so it forces defense is to really be able
Speaker 1: to spread out. And that's what I think creates a
Speaker 1: lot of opportunity for them. Here's where I'll disagree, and
Speaker 1: this is I mean, I've got a lot more experience
Speaker 1: watching Drew Brees and the Saints than a lot of
Speaker 1: other NFL teams. That's where I grew up. And I
Speaker 1: think this is a cliche, Like you're always like, oh,
Speaker 1: quarterback can throw him open and blah blah blah, and yeah,
Speaker 1: like no NFL team just launches the ball downfield every down.
Speaker 1: But Drew Brees really is so accurate that you can
Speaker 1: be completely covered and he'll still get it to you,
Speaker 1: like he does it with Thomas. He's gonna put Marcus
Speaker 1: Colston in the Saint's Ring of Honor because he can
Speaker 1: just throw it on He used to just throw it
Speaker 1: on Colston's back shoulder and he would be absolutely blanketed
Speaker 1: and he would just use his body to make the
Speaker 1: catch anyway, and like it was not an advisable throw ever,
Speaker 1: and it worked every time. I don't think Teddy Bridgewater
Speaker 1: can do that, and so, and I don't disagree with that.
Speaker 1: I agree with everything you just said. And so that's
Speaker 1: my point is, like those fifteen to twenty five yard
Speaker 1: routes that Breeze could throw to Thomas time after time
Speaker 1: after time. I don't think it'll be there for him,
Speaker 1: which is why I think you look more at Alvin
Speaker 1: Kamara and it's like we got a rally to this guy,
Speaker 1: because that's how they're going to generate most of their offense,
Speaker 1: is trying to put it on him, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: But I also think that they will have They will
Speaker 1: have lots of gadgets for this game. I just knowing
Speaker 1: that coach, they're gonna be a lot of things that
Speaker 1: they're gonna try to come up with that will look
Speaker 1: to take advantage of this defense. And by trickery or
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, I don't think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be they're gonna line up every play and just
Speaker 1: look to throw the ball or even just to run
Speaker 1: the ball. I think they're going to do a lot
Speaker 1: of different things and mix it up enough to where
Speaker 1: they try to keep this defense off balance. All the
Speaker 1: stuff that we are excited to see the Cowboys try
Speaker 1: with Tony Pollard is stuff that they do with Alvin Kamara.
Speaker 1: He lines up on the boundary, he lines up in
Speaker 1: the slot, he motions out of both of those spots.
Speaker 1: They gave him the ball on jet sweeps in the
Speaker 1: Seattle game, they faked the ball to him on jet sweeps.
Speaker 1: In the Seattle game, they used receivers. There's a play
Speaker 1: I think it is in the third quarter they motioned Kamara.
Speaker 1: He's killing him. At this point, they motioned Kamara on
Speaker 1: the jet sweep. kJ Wright takes three steps toward the
Speaker 1: hash mark watching Kamara, and the running backs passed him
Speaker 1: by the time he even realizes he doesn't have the ball.
Speaker 1: And that's what you gotta watch for, is not only
Speaker 1: what he can do, but the threat that he brings.
Speaker 1: And it's sorry, it's easier said than done, but I
Speaker 1: just I don't know. With Teddy Bridgewater in there. It's
Speaker 1: a different story with Breeze, But with Teddy Bridgewater playing quarterback,
Speaker 1: I think if you can limit him, you can really
Speaker 1: limit this offense. Let's take our first break, we come back.
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Speaker 1: on Twitter at Derek eagleson one thought. I had a
Speaker 1: question that I had was let's talk a little bit
Speaker 1: more about Teddy Bridgewater. If you had to narrow it
Speaker 1: down to what you think his greatest asset is and
Speaker 1: then his greatest weakness is, what would you say that
Speaker 1: would be. I think he's very cool under pressure, Like
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think he's going to be super
Speaker 1: easily rattled. I mean he went up and played extremely
Speaker 1: well at Century Link Field, which is a testament to that.
Speaker 1: He's he's not a running quarterback, right, like if you
Speaker 1: think that you're not paid lunching. Yeah, but he is
Speaker 1: heavy enough to scramble and you know, move up in
Speaker 1: the pocket. And he converted a third down or two
Speaker 1: that way twelve rush yards but hidden yards, right, And
Speaker 1: I don't think he makes a ton of mistakes. He
Speaker 1: did almost he almost threw a pick six in this
Speaker 1: game when he had one of his guards fallen back
Speaker 1: into his lap. But I don't think he's gonna make
Speaker 1: dumb mistakes. I think that's his best attribute. I don't
Speaker 1: really watch him enough. I haven't seen him. I know.
Speaker 1: All I know is that, you know, for a little
Speaker 1: bit with Minnesota, he was he was a guy that
Speaker 1: had him excited, and then he didn't, you know, he
Speaker 1: got hurt and then they were ready to sort of
Speaker 1: move on, and so you know, he hadn't had a
Speaker 1: lot of opportunities. But he doesn't seem like the biggest
Speaker 1: guy to go look down the field and you know,
Speaker 1: survey the scene. But then again, he's replacing a guy
Speaker 1: who isn't either, and he just he's headed to the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. So, you know, I mean the way
Speaker 1: that they have the structured on the offensive line protects
Speaker 1: shorter quarterbacks. I don't think he's like really short, but
Speaker 1: he's not like a big, big guy. But I can't
Speaker 1: say that I've seen him play a ton. I just
Speaker 1: know that there wasn't a lot of teams that were
Speaker 1: like wanting him to be their starting quarterback most of
Speaker 1: that the injury though, coming off the injury in Minnesota,
Speaker 1: and also there was just a video that was posted
Speaker 1: of him in the locker room after that win, just
Speaker 1: kind of like saying like I don't want to tear up,
Speaker 1: but like we need to cherish this moment after win,
Speaker 1: like never take this for granted. And I think that's
Speaker 1: something he's playing with that maybe he hasn't played with
Speaker 1: in the past of because he was in Minnesota and
Speaker 1: then he was hurt and hasn't really played. He has
Speaker 1: this opportunity, and I think the weapons he has around
Speaker 1: him knows he can be good and he really wants
Speaker 1: to perform. I feel like they are quarterbacks that just
Speaker 1: maybe don't don't have that certain like that extra piece
Speaker 1: of heart or not that they don't want to play.
Speaker 1: But he's he's fighting for something that he still has
Speaker 1: it and I think that can be pretty powerful too.
Speaker 1: And I think he's he's beloved in that locker room.
Speaker 1: I think if I remember right, he had a chance
Speaker 1: to sign with the Dolphins and and you know, compete
Speaker 1: for the starting job there, and he's from Miami and
Speaker 1: that made a lot of sense. But he decided to
Speaker 1: stay with the Saints and be their backup. And you know,
Speaker 1: I think that loyalty means a lot to the guys
Speaker 1: in that locker room. Yeah you got foresight, Yeah that's true.
Speaker 1: I mean also like be the backup for one of
Speaker 1: the best teams in the league or start for a
Speaker 1: dumpster fire. I mean yeah, Well, knowing that Drew Brees
Speaker 1: we think is not going to play forever, right, you
Speaker 1: don't know, sure, maybe he will. I just I mean
Speaker 1: from what we've seen of him. Again, this is first
Speaker 1: start in a long time. But I don't think he's
Speaker 1: gonna come out and beat you slinging the rock. I mean,
Speaker 1: he could, but this is a good secondary. Even with
Speaker 1: Cheeto's struggles last week. In the beginning of that game,
Speaker 1: Byron Jones has looked really good, Like Byron Jones doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily look like a guy who missed all of training camp.
Speaker 1: So with all of that, yes, Michael Thomas is something
Speaker 1: to watch, but I think that's a net win for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys secondary because again, and I know Ted Ginn
Speaker 1: can still run a four four. I get that, But
Speaker 1: like out, this is not a receiver corps where you're
Speaker 1: like they just have so many guys. I think most
Speaker 1: people who pay attention to the Saints would tell you
Speaker 1: that's a weak spot for them, and Drew Brees's ability
Speaker 1: kind of helps paper over it. Yeah. All right, let's
Speaker 1: we got a question actually here from DC Blue Star.
Speaker 1: The question was, do you think that twenty seven gets
Speaker 1: Kamara duties again this year? And I think a lot
Speaker 1: was made of that the last time the Cowboys played them.
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis, you know, he had some plays where you know,
Speaker 1: they kind of used him with Kamara. But I think
Speaker 1: one of you guys said earlier this week he played
Speaker 1: it was what seven plays that he had total in
Speaker 1: that game. So I don't know that it was as
Speaker 1: much of a part of the game plan as people
Speaker 1: as you know, history tells us, right. Yeah, But that
Speaker 1: being said, what do you think the Cowboys do to
Speaker 1: try to negate some of what Kamara brings? Well, they
Speaker 1: scored ten points in the game and the defense was
Speaker 1: getting off the field a lot. So part of the
Speaker 1: fact that he didn't have a lot of numbers there
Speaker 1: is he was probably you know, the third down spy,
Speaker 1: third and long, and there wasn't a lot of those
Speaker 1: situations because they were stopping him. So he did well
Speaker 1: in that, but also nobody was expecting it, and I
Speaker 1: don't think you can come back and do it again.
Speaker 1: And so I think that was the element that made
Speaker 1: it work, is that Jordan Lewis, he hasn't played a
Speaker 1: lot and now all of a sudden, he's the guy
Speaker 1: that's shadowing. It makes sense, but I doubt that they'll
Speaker 1: They'll just say we're going to do that at least
Speaker 1: for as many plays as they did in that one.
Speaker 1: But if it's on him, it could be somebody else.
Speaker 1: But you know, I just think Kamara's role is different
Speaker 1: than it was. That's what I was gonna say, is
Speaker 1: I'm looking at last year's box score right now. Kamara
Speaker 1: did lead the team and carries he had eleven, but
Speaker 1: Ingram was out there. Ingram had seven carries. Ingram had
Speaker 1: two receptions in that game. I just think there was
Speaker 1: a more even split. And again, Kamara has never been
Speaker 1: a typical scat back, but they did used to split
Speaker 1: that workload a lot more. I don't expect that to
Speaker 1: be the case in this game, like Latvia. Like I said,
Speaker 1: Latavia's Murray hasn't shown you anything resembling what Mark Ingram
Speaker 1: can do. This is to me what I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying the same back. But whatever plan that they
Speaker 1: had for Barkley, you know, what they wanted to do
Speaker 1: to stop a dynamic, featured running back is something they
Speaker 1: should do, you know, in a similar way. Now Barkley.
Speaker 1: Maybe they should do better than that because Barkley similar
Speaker 1: well I mean way, but if you can't stop him,
Speaker 1: you can't stop him. But I meant treat him like
Speaker 1: a running back that can hurt you, you know, inside
Speaker 1: the tackles, announce them. This is gonna be a fun
Speaker 1: litmus test because there's kind of a you know, the
Speaker 1: storyline going right now, is Joe Thomas got involved against
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, Like, is everything okay with Jalen is Layton
Speaker 1: vander esh playing up to his ability? Well, we will,
Speaker 1: we'll know. We'll know at the end of this week,
Speaker 1: probably because and Jordan Lewis might have something to do
Speaker 1: with this. But for the amount that Kamar is going
Speaker 1: to be playing, you know, I don't I don't think
Speaker 1: that's going to make the difference in this game, even
Speaker 1: if they did do it again, I think it's going
Speaker 1: to be about how your linebackers and safeties rallied to
Speaker 1: him and tackle him because again, I mean, please if
Speaker 1: you can go find the highlight package, because like it's
Speaker 1: I know he's a good player, but it's embarrassing on
Speaker 1: the Seahawks part, like how often he was just able
Speaker 1: to shed them and I mean, like you know, running
Speaker 1: into linebackers full speed and kind of just spinning and
Speaker 1: off to the races like he did it four or
Speaker 1: five different times where they should have had him stopped
Speaker 1: for anywhere from zero to four yards and he turned
Speaker 1: it into an eight to fifteen yard game. There have
Speaker 1: been a little rumblings I think I've seen on Twitter.
Speaker 1: You guys may have seen him as well. If people
Speaker 1: talking about the linebackers this year, I think mainly because
Speaker 1: they haven't made the big splash plays. What do you
Speaker 1: guys think overall, just in the play of Layton vander
Speaker 1: Esh and Jalen Smith this year so far, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think that they are the core of the defense
Speaker 1: in my opinion, and they're right there in the middle.
Speaker 1: And the defensive line has been good at times, a
Speaker 1: secondary has been pretty good. I mean, they've all had
Speaker 1: their moments, but I just think those two guys are
Speaker 1: the ones that get it done. Now, they haven't had
Speaker 1: those huge turnovers. Well, Jayden Smith had a pretty big
Speaker 1: turnover last week and force in that fumble, But it's
Speaker 1: the tackles. They're not all over the field making you know,
Speaker 1: a ton of plays twenty tackles or a game or
Speaker 1: anything like that. But I still think it kind of
Speaker 1: starts with them their ability to run sideline to sideline. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's kind of what makes this defense goes. So I
Speaker 1: think they've played pretty good, but we've we expect them
Speaker 1: to be like the best linebackers in the league, and
Speaker 1: when that happens, you expect bigger plays. So we've been
Speaker 1: saying about the defensive line to the first three games.
Speaker 1: The standards with Rod Marinelli and the defense in general
Speaker 1: is so high. And you guys were talking about on
Speaker 1: Cover four this week of just people are being so
Speaker 1: critical because they know what this team can do. And
Speaker 1: it's not that they're playing terrible, not, you know, but
Speaker 1: it's just we've seen what they can do and I
Speaker 1: don't think they've hit that yet. I haven't seen the
Speaker 1: instincts yet this season. Like Sean this was Sean Lee's
Speaker 1: hallmark when he was at his peak and vander esh
Speaker 1: and Jalen have both done it. At times, is like
Speaker 1: the quarterback is dropping his arm back to throw and
Speaker 1: they're already on the move, like you can see it
Speaker 1: in real time. You're like, oh, he's gonna blow this
Speaker 1: up and the ball has even left the quarterback's hand.
Speaker 1: Yet we haven't seen that yet. I think there's room
Speaker 1: for both of them to improve. I do think it's
Speaker 1: it's at least curious that Joe Thomas got involved as
Speaker 1: much as he did on Sunday. You know, Jalen spent
Speaker 1: a series on the sideline. He didn't appear to be hurt.
Speaker 1: I know, you know, there's people saying he rushed the
Speaker 1: passer more in that game, but linebackers blitz all the
Speaker 1: time across the league, So I don't know if I
Speaker 1: buy that. But at the same time, you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's the Dolphins that you know, they took care of business.
Speaker 1: Jalen forced to fumble in the red zone. I think
Speaker 1: it's a lot of handwringing, and I haven't seen enough
Speaker 1: evidence to concern me yet. I think I do think
Speaker 1: they need to raise their level of play to meet
Speaker 1: the expectations that they have put on themselves, but it's
Speaker 1: not something that I'm losing sleep about right now. But again,
Speaker 1: sorry Nick, but this game will be a great litmus
Speaker 1: test for how far they actually have to go. Jalen
Speaker 1: Smith is eleven tackles in each of the first three games.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's that's a pace for one seventy
Speaker 1: six um last year I think it was one fifty one.
Speaker 1: I think Layton was at one seventy six. He's you know,
Speaker 1: he has the force fumble, he has a fumble recovery
Speaker 1: as well. I think that that's pretty solid. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's really good. Vander esh is the one that
Speaker 1: had his tackle numbers are down a little bit, uh nine,
Speaker 1: five and eight. He did have the half sack, forced fumble,
Speaker 1: recovery and all that. But I think the style of
Speaker 1: the game too is a part of it. You know,
Speaker 1: last year, you know they were winning these closer games
Speaker 1: where teams are playing you know, and their their base
Speaker 1: offense a lot more now with with having a second
Speaker 1: half lead the way they have and playing a more
Speaker 1: of a ben But don't break defense. You are going
Speaker 1: to have take less chances. You're gonna keep the guys
Speaker 1: in front of you. More, make the tackle, keep the
Speaker 1: clock going, and I think that's just not gonna not
Speaker 1: conducive to making as many impact plays. I agree with.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm interested to see what the defense looks
Speaker 1: like in a game where the outcome is endowed in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. I still, I mean, they were ugly
Speaker 1: in the first half against the Dolphins. I just there's
Speaker 1: no way to get out from under that. And they
Speaker 1: deserve credit for being much much better in the second half,
Speaker 1: but they You still don't want to see a defense
Speaker 1: that's supposed to be elite struggle with such a bad
Speaker 1: team like that. So um there, I mean, there's plenty
Speaker 1: of room for improvement. It just hasn't been as bad
Speaker 1: as some people want to have, you believe in my opinion.
Speaker 1: And we say struggle relatively striking. They gave up six
Speaker 1: points struggling as much as you can struggle when you
Speaker 1: hold him to two hundred and sixty yards and win
Speaker 1: by twenty four points. Jose, we're gonna talk about the
Speaker 1: pass rush at all? Yeah, why don't we do this.
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Speaker 1: It is the final segment of The Break Live from
Speaker 1: the SWBC Mortgage studios. At the start, just before we
Speaker 1: went to break, Nick had a little something. It's tell
Speaker 1: us about the pass rush, Nick, what you got? Well,
Speaker 1: you know, they got Robert Quinn to be a complimentary guy,
Speaker 1: just be another pass rusher on the other side of
Speaker 1: d law and in one game, I mean, he's doing
Speaker 1: the exactly that they have a stat here. I don't
Speaker 1: know exactly when they started keeping pressures as a stat
Speaker 1: and I get it, Harvey Martin, Tutall Jones, Bob Lilly,
Speaker 1: they probably did it all time, but they really started
Speaker 1: keeping this about fifteen years ago. And since they've done
Speaker 1: that only four times has somebody had seven pressures in
Speaker 1: a game. D Where did it twice? To Marcus Lawrence
Speaker 1: did it once and now Robert Quinn has done it.
Speaker 1: And the fact that he's done it, you know, in
Speaker 1: one game, I mean the fact that he just one
Speaker 1: game and that's is that what we're going to get
Speaker 1: out of him? No? Probably not. The Dolphins are probably
Speaker 1: don't have the best offensive line where it sounds like
Speaker 1: they's gonna face a better line this week. But to
Speaker 1: come in and tie the Cowboys record for pressures in
Speaker 1: one game. I mean that just shows that you know,
Speaker 1: that's what you want. You want him to get around
Speaker 1: the edge and be that kind of player. It was
Speaker 1: good timing he came back with Crawford being out with
Speaker 1: the hand injury, and we've been talking all week. I mean,
Speaker 1: three wins are three wins regardless. These are good players
Speaker 1: on the teams. I do think this is the point
Speaker 1: in the season when you start hitting more balanced teams
Speaker 1: and teams who I've been performing better. So it'll be
Speaker 1: interesting to see how Quinn can handle the next few
Speaker 1: games since we've only seen one game with him with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and see fracture's hand through training camp. So
Speaker 1: and also take into account when and if Crawford comes back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: act that decision, you know. I think another thing that
Speaker 1: seems to me anyway, I don't have any empirical proof
Speaker 1: of this, but seems to me weeks four or five six,
Speaker 1: that time frame of the season is when teams that
Speaker 1: are that have good veteran players, whether veteran players start
Speaker 1: really showing up. I think I believe it's because in
Speaker 1: today's NFL, a lot of veterans don't get a lot
Speaker 1: of time during the preseason to play. But I think
Speaker 1: this is when you start seeing kind of those teams
Speaker 1: that you see it every year. I see it in
Speaker 1: fantasy every year. You see it the beginning, like there
Speaker 1: are these players that are kind of showing up and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, so, who's this new guy? And around
Speaker 1: about four or five is when you start seeing the
Speaker 1: regular mainstays, those guys that have been around for a
Speaker 1: long time, been doing it really well for a long time,
Speaker 1: they start to kind of show up. And so that's
Speaker 1: where I look at this and I say, I think
Speaker 1: this is coming out a good time because you know
Speaker 1: you're about to match up two really good teams that
Speaker 1: should be hitting your strides. About nine, you know you've
Speaker 1: played enough games now where they should start figuring out
Speaker 1: what they do well, what they don't do well, hide
Speaker 1: the things you don't do so well, and do more
Speaker 1: of the things that you do well. And that's where
Speaker 1: I think teams start kind of getting on these roles.
Speaker 1: So I'm interested to see at this point, hey had
Speaker 1: these three games, like you said, against teams that may
Speaker 1: not be great, but at this point they should know
Speaker 1: a little bit more about those things, so they should
Speaker 1: go into a game like this, I think, very well prepared,
Speaker 1: hit their stride and do some things that maybe they
Speaker 1: kind of have figured out that this team does really well,
Speaker 1: do them more often regardless. I mean, even if they
Speaker 1: lose to the Eagles tomorrow night, the Packers will be
Speaker 1: three and one heading into this to the next game.
Speaker 1: So I mean, yeah, I mean, this is this is
Speaker 1: where it gets tough. I mean, I know it's the NFL.
Speaker 1: We keep saying that they're all tough everything, but I mean, shoot,
Speaker 1: I study the Dolphins, I study the opposing team. I
Speaker 1: already forgot who plays tackle for them? Do you all remember? No?
Speaker 1: I know, I know Armstead and Ramcheck are two of
Speaker 1: the best. And then I know the week after that
Speaker 1: they got Bactra and Bulaga. Like you start to play
Speaker 1: guys the boy that are right among the best. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's we're gonna We're gonna have a much better idea
Speaker 1: soon of I mean everything, Like I said, can Jalen
Speaker 1: and vander esh handle a guy like Album Kamara, Can
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence and Robert Quinn get home against Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: caliber tackles? I mean it is a difference. You know,
Speaker 1: I was looking at this list of seven pressures and
Speaker 1: there's some six on here as well. Sean Lee got
Speaker 1: six in a game against Baltimore. Like that just seems
Speaker 1: weird that you would blitz enough six blitz is in
Speaker 1: a game. But then to what years that? Twenty twelve?
Speaker 1: How about? I mean, I it feels like it feels
Speaker 1: like another lifetime. In twenty thirteen, my first season, Shawn
Speaker 1: Lee had six interceptions and took two of them to
Speaker 1: the house. Really, yeah, that's that's what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 1: like that, You're like, that doesn't sound like him, That
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like it didn't the Dallas defense returning an
Speaker 1: interception for a touchdown a Pro Bowl, I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna call a little high on the six. It was.
Speaker 1: It was either five or six. I would bet my
Speaker 1: life and I just that's a lot. That's an I
Speaker 1: don't remember the touchdowns. I mean he had eagles. He
Speaker 1: had one, all right, I got it right here, and
Speaker 1: two of them would pick six as well. Twenty. I
Speaker 1: don't call that, damn it. It was four. I was close.
Speaker 1: He had one touchdowns one and it was a nope.
Speaker 1: Chargers they lost that game. It was when Terrence Williams
Speaker 1: fumbled stretching for the goal line. I remember, yeah, And
Speaker 1: I do remember his first pick six was against Peyton
Speaker 1: Manning Scandrick had one name had Sewn had four picks
Speaker 1: in two different seasons. He did it in eleven two.
Speaker 1: He's I mean, I don't know where he ranks on
Speaker 1: all time linebackers for interceptions. I feel like Leroy Jordan,
Speaker 1: Chuck Halley, those guys had some. But he's he's up
Speaker 1: there too. Dextra Cokeley got a lot of picks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't Dextra Cokely go to a Pro Bowl one
Speaker 1: year after he had a couple of picks two two
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving Day and we were like, you know, well
Speaker 1: that'll help him make the Pro Bowl and he did.
Speaker 1: You know, but and you know in vander Esh's I
Speaker 1: guess he's got two yeah, two back to back games
Speaker 1: last year Atlanta. Those those were big plays in the
Speaker 1: game too, So that's I think. You know, we talked
Speaker 1: about the instincts and the tackling, and that's super important,
Speaker 1: especially in a game like this, but people will probably
Speaker 1: forgive some of that if you can start getting your
Speaker 1: hands on some footballs too, and that's chances. You know,
Speaker 1: they had had plenty of chances. I mean, that's the
Speaker 1: story of the Dallas defense as long as I've been here,
Speaker 1: is like almost just almost. We were talking about Luke
Speaker 1: Gifford earlier and I wasn't going to bring this up again,
Speaker 1: but you know, he he's in an absolute perfect to
Speaker 1: be a Really I don't know if he's got the
Speaker 1: talent to be a good linebacker, but he's in a
Speaker 1: perfect spot. Any young linebacker is because when you think
Speaker 1: about instincts, preparation, desire, will all that, there's probably nobody
Speaker 1: better than Shaun Lee. It's just unfortunate with the injuries
Speaker 1: and all that, but he from preparation standpoint and knowing
Speaker 1: where you're supposed to be and lined up, Shaun Lee
Speaker 1: is perfect to be there with. How about hitting, tackling,
Speaker 1: flying around the ball, Jalen Smith does as well as anybody.
Speaker 1: The hardest hitter might be Joe Thomas when he comes
Speaker 1: in the game, he's just pissed off one to hit people.
Speaker 1: And then you got the combination of all of that
Speaker 1: with Layton Vandersch, It's just a great spot for a
Speaker 1: young linebacker to be to maybe learn from all of
Speaker 1: those guys, and you know, especially Joe Thomas being ready
Speaker 1: when you come in the game, get in there and
Speaker 1: make an impact. That's and I look, I get it.
Speaker 1: They just gave Jayalen a lot of money. You want
Speaker 1: to see him play up to it, but he hasn't.
Speaker 1: It's not so drastic that I'm worried about it. And
Speaker 1: if the upshot of that is that there's their fourth
Speaker 1: linebacker is good enough to come in and take some
Speaker 1: snaps and play well against an overmatched opponent, I'm just
Speaker 1: not worried about that. Let's talk again in two or
Speaker 1: three weeks and it'll be a different conversation, hopefully for
Speaker 1: the better. But it's just not at a point where
Speaker 1: I'm losing sleep. Wasn't just like a Zeke Pollar thing. Yes,
Speaker 1: That's that's why I look at it too. Is when
Speaker 1: you're playing a game like this with Cowboys got by
Speaker 1: the third quarter, they kind of put this game out
Speaker 1: of hand. I mean it is that just a situation
Speaker 1: where there's just kind of giving my counter Like Jalen
Speaker 1: came out in the first half when the game was
Speaker 1: still not put away like that, But in a game
Speaker 1: like this one, they would expect that They're Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: totally what could they have gone into the game saying, hey,
Speaker 1: let's let's kind of use these other this other guy
Speaker 1: a little bit more just because we feel like we
Speaker 1: can do it. It is possible that that's what happened. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't know, um so yeah, but I just I'm
Speaker 1: I'm struggling to get worked up about this based on
Speaker 1: what we've seen so far. Net is, it's not a
Speaker 1: concern right now, and I think Jalen's played Okay. I
Speaker 1: think again, as I preface this, I think they're just
Speaker 1: rumbling people on Twitter like they're expecting to see more
Speaker 1: of these big players receivers over the middle. Well, but
Speaker 1: you just mentioned it eleven tackles each of the three games, Like,
Speaker 1: that's not equibal with that, because if you're catching guys
Speaker 1: twelve yards down field, it counts as a tackle. But
Speaker 1: it's not one that anybody's pumped about. Right. Yeah, But
Speaker 1: you're catching guys down the field at the linebacker position, right,
Speaker 1: That's that's a good thing. There's not a lot of
Speaker 1: linebackers that can catch people down the field. My point is,
Speaker 1: what if he's twelve yards downfield, because it's something you miss, right,
Speaker 1: But will you go to the games like you watch it.
Speaker 1: I mean like he's playing pretty well. He's around the ball,
Speaker 1: he's doing what your middle linebackers, I think is supposed
Speaker 1: to do. Eleven tackles. What is the line Number one
Speaker 1: for a linebacker person, most important job is you gotta tackle.
Speaker 1: And I think if you're getting eleven tackles a game
Speaker 1: at linebacker, if a safety is getting eleven tackles a game, now,
Speaker 1: I think you're probably in a little different situation. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Before a linebacker to get eleven tackles per game in
Speaker 1: the first three games, that's significant to me. I think
Speaker 1: he's doing his job. I am. I am not worried
Speaker 1: about it. I'll say it again, but you know, these
Speaker 1: these next two teams will provide a much clearer idea
Speaker 1: of whether or not it's a problem. Absolutely all right, Well,
Speaker 1: we appreciate you, guys, Jonas. We're back tomorrow eleven forty
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