WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Won't Be "Easy"

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<v Speaker 1>The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>ready for a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Wednesday, September twenty fifth, twenty nineteen, season fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>episode number fifty one. Welcome to the latest edition of

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<v Speaker 1>The Break. We're live the s WBC Mortgage Studios at

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<v Speaker 1>the Star. Got Nick and Dave dating back with us today, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we get a bonus a day of Danny special guest. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it should be fun here. We got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about. This is I think the first week

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<v Speaker 1>that we've been doing this show this season where where

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to have our look at the opponent, and

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<v Speaker 1>it actually feels like there's a lot to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>when you talk about all the personnel that they have.

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<v Speaker 1>Dave's gonna have his breakdown of the Saints offense and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get into that today. Tomorrow we'll talk about their defense.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you start going through this thing, there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of guys that you have to talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of guys that can be potential weapons for

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<v Speaker 1>this team, probably more than any other team that we've

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<v Speaker 1>that the Cowboys have faced this season. We'll get into

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<v Speaker 1>that in just a second before we go there, though,

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<v Speaker 1>I did want to talk first about a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>guys that are coming back from injuries, a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>guys that are still on the injury report. Catch us

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<v Speaker 1>up on Xavier Woods and Tavon Austin. We'll let Dave

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<v Speaker 1>did that. They're both at practice, good both. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they're both expected to be limited. But you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a veteran and you're practicing on Wednesday, it's always

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<v Speaker 1>a good sign. That's where they're at. Yeah, I mean, like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to watch it for the rest of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, we talked about it yesterday. The four

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<v Speaker 1>to six week prognosis for Xavier Woods looks pretty faulty. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's been less than two and he's practicing again,

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<v Speaker 1>so keep an eye on him. But if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>veteran and you're practicing on Wednesday, that's usually a really

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<v Speaker 1>good sign. Antoine Woods and tarn Crawford. Tarn Crawford not

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<v Speaker 1>practicing and that's not surprising. Luke Gifford it's back, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is a little not surprising. I mean, it makes sense,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just kind of out of sight, out of mind,

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<v Speaker 1>Like haven't seen him since he heard his ankle in

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco. That was August tenth. Been a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's out there practice brain right, Yeah, which looked

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<v Speaker 1>like a broken ankle that was coming off. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, the interesting part there is they kept

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<v Speaker 1>him on this team for the whole time, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know they've talked about it a lot. That

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<v Speaker 1>kept him on the training camp roster. They he had

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<v Speaker 1>made the team. I think that was probably the most

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<v Speaker 1>expensive interception ever to get an interception and then get

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<v Speaker 1>hurt like that, because like, okay, you're on the team,

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<v Speaker 1>you're done enough to be here. But to be here,

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<v Speaker 1>he's probably they're expecting him to be a special teams guy,

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<v Speaker 1>may be active. So I'm I'm interested to see when

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<v Speaker 1>he gets healthy, is he going to have a role

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<v Speaker 1>on special teams and whose spot does he think? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny the nature of this thing because back at

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<v Speaker 1>training camp, it's like he's so impressive. He's this undrafted

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<v Speaker 1>rookie linebacker and he already made the team even though

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<v Speaker 1>he can't practice. And now it's like, well, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that they've did all this work to hold onto. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see something. And I'm not saying that he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to start or anything, but for all of the work

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<v Speaker 1>that they did to keep him on this team, you

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't think that he's going to live up to those expectations,

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<v Speaker 1>even if it's just as a special teamer. Yeah, it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be interesting to see as time goes on what his

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<v Speaker 1>role will be and how much they can work him in. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a team that's very, very deep the linebacker position,

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<v Speaker 1>so really special teams becomes his opportunity if he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to get me play any real significant playing time. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's move on. Let's talk about the New Orleans Saints.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start. Dave, give us your your breakdown of this

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<v Speaker 1>fence and what you've seen as you started looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the tape on these guys. Did you watch the game

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday? I did? Did you watch it? Danny? Yes? Nick? So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Alvin Kamara is really really good football player. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's really my that's my breakdown. M not really,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you watch that game, not surprisingly with a

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<v Speaker 1>backup quarterback in the game who hasn't started in three years,

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<v Speaker 1>they really took the pressure off of Teddy Bridgewater and

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<v Speaker 1>put it all on Alvin Kamara. I would venture a

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<v Speaker 1>guest I don't cover the Saints, I would venture a

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<v Speaker 1>guest that that is the most they have ever leaned

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<v Speaker 1>on him, and he delivered. He did it all for them.

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<v Speaker 1>He had ninety two rushing yards, no, ninety two receiving yards,

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me, and he caught what nine passes sixty sixty

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<v Speaker 1>six or sixty nine rushing yards. I've got it for you, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>on sixteen attempts, which was interesting because in the previous

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<v Speaker 1>two games he'd averaged thirteen. He had thirteen carries on

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<v Speaker 1>both those two games at sixteen in this game, sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of an increase, not a huge increase. Sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>carries for sixty nine yards and a touchdown. Really nice

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<v Speaker 1>output on his part. Nine receptions for ninety two yards

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<v Speaker 1>and another touchdown. Brought this up in Jason Garrett's press conference.

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<v Speaker 1>The amazing thing is, honestly, he would have had a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty pedestrian day. If the Seahawks could have gotten him

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground. I mean, if you watch the tape

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<v Speaker 1>of this game, he is banging off linebackers, dragging safeties.

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<v Speaker 1>He dragged Jadeveon Clowney at one point in this game,

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<v Speaker 1>a sixteen yard run right up the gut. Clowney grabs

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<v Speaker 1>onto his waist and he just carries him for like

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<v Speaker 1>five yards. He's like, that's cool. Number one overalls, like

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<v Speaker 1>you just described Jerome Bettis's career honestly average. If they

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<v Speaker 1>would have gotten him on the ground. You you said

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<v Speaker 1>it yesterday. Is like the perception because of what they

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<v Speaker 1>asked him to do, is that he's like a scap back,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, Darren Sproles was so successful in New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just not true. Jason Garrett said it today. Heat

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and fifteen pounds. He was running between the

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<v Speaker 1>tackles and these are not like, yeah, these are not

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<v Speaker 1>bad players that he was demolishing. Like Bobby Wagner and

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<v Speaker 1>kJ Wright are fantastic linebackers, and he made them look

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<v Speaker 1>really bad. He scored from thirty two yards out on

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<v Speaker 1>a It was like third and thirteen. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>clear out screen, like let's see if we can get

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<v Speaker 1>in position for a fuel goal. And it's right before

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<v Speaker 1>the half and he just he dragged half the defense

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<v Speaker 1>and scored a touchdown. This is so exciting, really is

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<v Speaker 1>because Steven Jones said that Tony Pollard is Alvin Kamara

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<v Speaker 1>just going to be Alvin Kamara, Right, Yeah, he did

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<v Speaker 1>say that. So this is what Tony Pollard's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be to get I wanna and you mentioned it, You

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned it like this is an offense with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of talent on it. Just in general though, and honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think the Saints get enough credit for what

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<v Speaker 1>they've done on their offensive line, Like everybody gives the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys so much credit. Just looking at it, you start

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<v Speaker 1>to Ron Armstead that left tackle, he's a third round pick.

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<v Speaker 1>Andrews Pete at left guard who was drafted to be

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<v Speaker 1>a tackle, but he's a first round pick playing guard.

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<v Speaker 1>Eric McCoy was their first pick in the second round.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe in the high or in the low thirties. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a very good second round pick out of Texas

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<v Speaker 1>A and m Larry Warford. They got it in free agency,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was a high draft pick. Back in his day.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Ryan Ramchick, which everybody talks about t J. Watt.

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Ramchick was drafted thirty first overall in that draft,

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<v Speaker 1>which you know, I think the Cowboys are happy with

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<v Speaker 1>Lyle Collins, but they could have gotten themselves a Pro

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl caliber wright tackle as well. You know, you know

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<v Speaker 1>you watched Inside the NFL at all. They it's Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Irvin's on it now, I think filling in for ray Lewis.

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<v Speaker 1>But Phil Sims said yesterday or he said it on

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<v Speaker 1>the show, that the Saints have the best offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>of football better than Dallas, and he actually picked the

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<v Speaker 1>Saints to win the game just because of that. Now, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't like the Cowboys. What he's the anti Irvin

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to that, But he did say Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>is the number two team in the NFL as far

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<v Speaker 1>as overall team, but he thinks this Sael win because

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<v Speaker 1>of their line. Their offensive line is really impressive. Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas is awesome, trey Quon Smith is a third round

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<v Speaker 1>slot number three receiver, and then you've got Ted Ginnu

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<v Speaker 1>still run and they can still run. Where do I

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<v Speaker 1>want to start? Which, Okay, if you go watch this game, though,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like it was a perfect storm for Teddy

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<v Speaker 1>Bridgewater to succeed because their undrafted punt returner Deante Harris

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<v Speaker 1>returns a punt for a touchdown for an early lead

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<v Speaker 1>from the get Fifteen minutes later they break a seven

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<v Speaker 1>seven tie with a defensive touchdown. Chris Carson fumbles for Seattle,

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<v Speaker 1>so you get fourteen of your thirty three points from

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<v Speaker 1>your defense and special teams. And then the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>this was trying to not put this game on Teddy Bridgewater.

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<v Speaker 1>I've said this a few times, but I retweeted it

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<v Speaker 1>earlier this week. Somebody cut up every completion, all right, No,

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<v Speaker 1>actually every throw of Teddy Bridgewater's game. He threw one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and seventy seven yards, which should lead you to

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<v Speaker 1>know this was dink and dunk city, Like I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I counted three balls that went further than fifteen yards downfield.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Thomas five catches for fifty four yards. I wrote

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<v Speaker 1>this down last night. Where's he at? Where are you at?

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Thomas crossing route for I checked three reception quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>a quick slant to pick up a third and fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>a ten yard out route, an eight yard curl six

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<v Speaker 1>yard crossing route and then his touchdown was a bubble

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<v Speaker 1>screen on the goal line where he caught it at

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<v Speaker 1>the half inch line and fell into the end zone.

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<v Speaker 1>Which I don't blame Michael Thomas for this. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's just smart play calling. You talk about putting your

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback in a position to succeed. Again. You know, Drew

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<v Speaker 1>Brees is a guy that can manipulate the pocket, throw

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<v Speaker 1>down the seams, put the ball anywhere he wants to.

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<v Speaker 1>Teddy Bridgewater is not that guy, at least not in

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<v Speaker 1>his first start in three years on the road, and

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<v Speaker 1>they played that way, and it's amazing to me, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know Alvin Kamara is really good, but it's amazing

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<v Speaker 1>to me that it worked that well. That's my main

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<v Speaker 1>impression from this game is they were like, let's manufacture

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<v Speaker 1>as many touches as we can for this running back

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<v Speaker 1>and see how far he can carry us. And he

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<v Speaker 1>carried them to a pretty lopsided win. I know they

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<v Speaker 1>won by six, but Seattle scored that last touchdown literally

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<v Speaker 1>on the last play of the game. And one of

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<v Speaker 1>the interesting things in my opinion about that is when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at Seattle, I would think the part of

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<v Speaker 1>their defense that's probably the best at this point is

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<v Speaker 1>their linebackers. And so you would think a game where

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<v Speaker 1>the Saints come in and say we're going to rely

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<v Speaker 1>on this running game, you would think that that flies

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<v Speaker 1>in the face of what Seattle does the best. And

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, they were getting just like blown away. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I was. I was shocked on one play with

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<v Speaker 1>kJ Wright just basically got got bulldozed and and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, that's that's kJ right. I mean like it

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't it didn't play the way I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>would play. And it made me think again, going back

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<v Speaker 1>to what you were saying about this offensive line. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're a big part of it, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>Kamar also runs with some power and teams have to

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<v Speaker 1>be aware of that. Yeah, but you know, grows to

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen times for sixty nine yards. I mean we're not

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, you know, a great day. Actually, now, he

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<v Speaker 1>that's not what those nine catches, yeah, and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of those are round the line of scrimmage and he's

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<v Speaker 1>making plays and all that. I look back at this

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<v Speaker 1>game and think that, you know, Russell Wilson and and

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<v Speaker 1>then saying the Seattle offense didn't do what they needed

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<v Speaker 1>to do early. And so that's what the Cowboys. If

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<v Speaker 1>they can put Bridgewater in a situation where you just

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<v Speaker 1>can't denk and dunk like this, you're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>throw it. And that's what Seattle didn't wasn't able to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do think that's that's important. Is I mean

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen I think the Saints went into Yeah, Saints went

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<v Speaker 1>in a half time with twenty points. Fourteen of them

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<v Speaker 1>came from defense and special teams. They get down, they

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<v Speaker 1>get into the end zone in the last possession of

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<v Speaker 1>the first half. I think that's huge, just putting them

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<v Speaker 1>up and allowing them to play this conservative game plan,

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<v Speaker 1>because I agree with you, they do have weapons. But

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<v Speaker 1>like all right, outside of Kamara, this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>what they did on offense. Bridgewater scrambled three times for twelve.

0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Taysom Hill had a gadget run for five. Latavius Murray,

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<v Speaker 1>who they brought in to be their new ingram. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that's going to happen, by the way. I

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<v Speaker 1>just whether he's just lost it or whether Kamara is

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<v Speaker 1>just that good. He carried the ball two times for

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<v Speaker 1>two yards. Zach Lyne, their fullback, came in on the

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<v Speaker 1>goal line and got stuffed. In the receiving game, you

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<v Speaker 1>got Thomas and Kamara. Then after that, Ted Ginn caught

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<v Speaker 1>two balls for fifteen yards, Jared Cook caught one for seven,

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<v Speaker 1>Hill had a gadget catch for five yards, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Hill, their tight end, had one catch for four yards.

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<v Speaker 1>Like lots of star power up here. And then honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like, they don't have anybody else that really

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<v Speaker 1>scares me. And I think it would be different if

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<v Speaker 1>Drew Brees was there because he can make anybody look good. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing I went through out there, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you have to remember that they were on the road

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<v Speaker 1>and playing in one of the loudest stadiums in the

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<v Speaker 1>league with this new quarterback. So I would say that

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be a little bit of a different situation

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<v Speaker 1>than them playing in the Dome. And the one thing

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<v Speaker 1>I know about their head coach, he is a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that knows how to manufacture offense using a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different weapons. And so we were there years ago when

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<v Speaker 1>I remember a fullback that I don't even remember the

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<v Speaker 1>dude's name, but he just crazy over out boys Carney, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was it Carney. I don't know who it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was. It was a fullback, and the point was

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<v Speaker 1>the point I'm making about Yeah, the point I'm making

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<v Speaker 1>about that is this isn't you want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>all these young guys in the NFL who are considered

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<v Speaker 1>to be brainy acts and know how to manufact your offense. Well,

0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Sean Payton's been doing it before those guys, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>every bit as good as those guys in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>and knowing how to get his offense to function. That

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<v Speaker 1>game was in Dallas, I believe. I think Ridgewater is

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<v Speaker 1>going to have longer passes. So I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be very different than what we saw because,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, he has the confidence from that first win.

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<v Speaker 1>He now has more time practicing and more comfort with

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<v Speaker 1>with his players. I think it's going to be different.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's not just going to be the what

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<v Speaker 1>you get the dunk City what you call it in conduity. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it'll be different. I think you're right. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it'll look exactly like that, but I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel silly saying it because it's easy to argue

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Thomas is one of the three best receivers in

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<v Speaker 1>the game. But I just don't know that they have

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<v Speaker 1>the personnel to just go downfield on this defense, like

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, which ironically DeVante Parker hurt them in the

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<v Speaker 1>first half of that game against Miami. But I would

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<v Speaker 1>be surprised to see them just chunking it downfield often

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<v Speaker 1>at least I don't know that that really is. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not even a big part of the offense. When

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<v Speaker 1>Breeze is there over the last year or so, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a guy. He can still throw. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>he can't throw, but I don't think that's the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>part of their offense. I think there's the type offense

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<v Speaker 1>that can work their way down the field and they

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<v Speaker 1>can use every part of the field. And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I was meaning by by what their coach brings them.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll he really forces the defense to cover every single

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<v Speaker 1>part of the field because he'll use the tight end

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<v Speaker 1>in one area, and he'll use a running back in

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<v Speaker 1>one area, and he'll use this third receiver in another area,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it forces defense is to really be able

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<v Speaker 1>to spread out. And that's what I think creates a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of opportunity for them. Here's where I'll disagree, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is I mean, I've got a lot more experience

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<v Speaker 1>watching Drew Brees and the Saints than a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>other NFL teams. That's where I grew up. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think this is a cliche, Like you're always like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback can throw him open and blah blah blah, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like no NFL team just launches the ball downfield every down.

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<v Speaker 1>But Drew Brees really is so accurate that you can

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<v Speaker 1>be completely covered and he'll still get it to you,

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<v Speaker 1>like he does it with Thomas. He's gonna put Marcus

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<v Speaker 1>Colston in the Saint's Ring of Honor because he can

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<v Speaker 1>just throw it on He used to just throw it

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<v Speaker 1>on Colston's back shoulder and he would be absolutely blanketed

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<v Speaker 1>and he would just use his body to make the

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<v Speaker 1>catch anyway, and like it was not an advisable throw ever,

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<v Speaker 1>and it worked every time. I don't think Teddy Bridgewater

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<v Speaker 1>can do that, and so, and I don't disagree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with everything you just said. And so that's

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<v Speaker 1>my point is, like those fifteen to twenty five yard

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<v Speaker 1>routes that Breeze could throw to Thomas time after time

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<v Speaker 1>after time. I don't think it'll be there for him,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why I think you look more at Alvin

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<v Speaker 1>Kamara and it's like we got a rally to this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's how they're going to generate most of their offense,

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<v Speaker 1>is trying to put it on him, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>But I also think that they will have They will

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<v Speaker 1>have lots of gadgets for this game. I just knowing

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<v Speaker 1>that coach, they're gonna be a lot of things that

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna try to come up with that will look

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<v Speaker 1>to take advantage of this defense. And by trickery or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to call it, I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be they're gonna line up every play and just

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<v Speaker 1>look to throw the ball or even just to run

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<v Speaker 1>the ball. I think they're going to do a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different things and mix it up enough to where

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<v Speaker 1>they try to keep this defense off balance. All the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that we are excited to see the Cowboys try

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<v Speaker 1>with Tony Pollard is stuff that they do with Alvin Kamara.

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<v Speaker 1>He lines up on the boundary, he lines up in

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<v Speaker 1>the slot, he motions out of both of those spots.

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<v Speaker 1>They gave him the ball on jet sweeps in the

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle game, they faked the ball to him on jet sweeps.

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<v Speaker 1>In the Seattle game, they used receivers. There's a play

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is in the third quarter they motioned Kamara.

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<v Speaker 1>He's killing him. At this point, they motioned Kamara on

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<v Speaker 1>the jet sweep. kJ Wright takes three steps toward the

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<v Speaker 1>hash mark watching Kamara, and the running backs passed him

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<v Speaker 1>by the time he even realizes he doesn't have the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what you gotta watch for, is not only

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<v Speaker 1>what he can do, but the threat that he brings.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's sorry, it's easier said than done, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just I don't know. With Teddy Bridgewater in there. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a different story with Breeze, But with Teddy Bridgewater playing quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you can limit him, you can really

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<v Speaker 1>limit this offense. Let's take our first break, we come back.

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter at Derek eagleson one thought. I had a

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<v Speaker 1>question that I had was let's talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more about Teddy Bridgewater. If you had to narrow it

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<v Speaker 1>down to what you think his greatest asset is and

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<v Speaker 1>then his greatest weakness is, what would you say that

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<v Speaker 1>would be. I think he's very cool under pressure, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't think he's going to be super

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<v Speaker 1>easily rattled. I mean he went up and played extremely

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<v Speaker 1>well at Century Link Field, which is a testament to that.

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<v Speaker 1>He's he's not a running quarterback, right, like if you

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<v Speaker 1>think that you're not paid lunching. Yeah, but he is

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<v Speaker 1>heavy enough to scramble and you know, move up in

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<v Speaker 1>the pocket. And he converted a third down or two

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<v Speaker 1>that way twelve rush yards but hidden yards, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he makes a ton of mistakes. He

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<v Speaker 1>did almost he almost threw a pick six in this

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<v Speaker 1>game when he had one of his guards fallen back

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<v Speaker 1>into his lap. But I don't think he's gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>dumb mistakes. I think that's his best attribute. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really watch him enough. I haven't seen him. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>All I know is that, you know, for a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit with Minnesota, he was he was a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>had him excited, and then he didn't, you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>got hurt and then they were ready to sort of

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<v Speaker 1>move on, and so you know, he hadn't had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of opportunities. But he doesn't seem like the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>guy to go look down the field and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>survey the scene. But then again, he's replacing a guy

0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:41.879
<v Speaker 1>who isn't either, and he just he's headed to the

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame. So, you know, I mean the way

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<v Speaker 1>that they have the structured on the offensive line protects

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<v Speaker 1>shorter quarterbacks. I don't think he's like really short, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's not like a big, big guy. But I can't

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<v Speaker 1>say that I've seen him play a ton. I just

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<v Speaker 1>know that there wasn't a lot of teams that were

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<v Speaker 1>like wanting him to be their starting quarterback most of

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<v Speaker 1>that the injury though, coming off the injury in Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>and also there was just a video that was posted

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<v Speaker 1>of him in the locker room after that win, just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like saying like I don't want to tear up,

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<v Speaker 1>but like we need to cherish this moment after win,

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<v Speaker 1>like never take this for granted. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>something he's playing with that maybe he hasn't played with

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<v Speaker 1>in the past of because he was in Minnesota and

0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:21.840
<v Speaker 1>then he was hurt and hasn't really played. He has

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<v Speaker 1>this opportunity, and I think the weapons he has around

0:22:25.160 --> 0:22:27.480
<v Speaker 1>him knows he can be good and he really wants

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<v Speaker 1>to perform. I feel like they are quarterbacks that just

0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:33.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe don't don't have that certain like that extra piece

0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:35.640
<v Speaker 1>of heart or not that they don't want to play.

0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:38.200
<v Speaker 1>But he's he's fighting for something that he still has

0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:40.200
<v Speaker 1>it and I think that can be pretty powerful too.

0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:42.760
<v Speaker 1>And I think he's he's beloved in that locker room.

0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:45.240
<v Speaker 1>I think if I remember right, he had a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to sign with the Dolphins and and you know, compete

0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:51.320
<v Speaker 1>for the starting job there, and he's from Miami and

0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:53.679
<v Speaker 1>that made a lot of sense. But he decided to

0:22:53.680 --> 0:22:56.600
<v Speaker 1>stay with the Saints and be their backup. And you know,

0:22:56.600 --> 0:22:58.760
<v Speaker 1>I think that loyalty means a lot to the guys

0:22:58.760 --> 0:23:02.080
<v Speaker 1>in that locker room. Yeah you got foresight, Yeah that's true.

0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:04.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean also like be the backup for one of

0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:06.320
<v Speaker 1>the best teams in the league or start for a

0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:09.159
<v Speaker 1>dumpster fire. I mean yeah, Well, knowing that Drew Brees

0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:11.680
<v Speaker 1>we think is not going to play forever, right, you

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:15.399
<v Speaker 1>don't know, sure, maybe he will. I just I mean

0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:17.840
<v Speaker 1>from what we've seen of him. Again, this is first

0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:21.240
<v Speaker 1>start in a long time. But I don't think he's

0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:23.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna come out and beat you slinging the rock. I mean,

0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:26.719
<v Speaker 1>he could, but this is a good secondary. Even with

0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Cheeto's struggles last week. In the beginning of that game,

0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:33.359
<v Speaker 1>Byron Jones has looked really good, Like Byron Jones doesn't

0:23:33.400 --> 0:23:35.879
<v Speaker 1>necessarily look like a guy who missed all of training camp.

0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:39.760
<v Speaker 1>So with all of that, yes, Michael Thomas is something

0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:42.119
<v Speaker 1>to watch, but I think that's a net win for

0:23:42.160 --> 0:23:46.080
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys secondary because again, and I know Ted Ginn

0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:48.199
<v Speaker 1>can still run a four four. I get that, But

0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:50.880
<v Speaker 1>like out, this is not a receiver corps where you're

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:54.159
<v Speaker 1>like they just have so many guys. I think most

0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:56.359
<v Speaker 1>people who pay attention to the Saints would tell you

0:23:56.359 --> 0:23:58.920
<v Speaker 1>that's a weak spot for them, and Drew Brees's ability

0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:02.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of helps paper over it. Yeah. All right, let's

0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:04.840
<v Speaker 1>we got a question actually here from DC Blue Star.

0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:08.200
<v Speaker 1>The question was, do you think that twenty seven gets

0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:11.440
<v Speaker 1>Kamara duties again this year? And I think a lot

0:24:11.520 --> 0:24:13.920
<v Speaker 1>was made of that the last time the Cowboys played them.

0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Lewis, you know, he had some plays where you know,

0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:19.400
<v Speaker 1>they kind of used him with Kamara. But I think

0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:21.359
<v Speaker 1>one of you guys said earlier this week he played

0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:23.640
<v Speaker 1>it was what seven plays that he had total in

0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:26.600
<v Speaker 1>that game. So I don't know that it was as

0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:28.480
<v Speaker 1>much of a part of the game plan as people

0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:31.679
<v Speaker 1>as you know, history tells us, right. Yeah, But that

0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:33.399
<v Speaker 1>being said, what do you think the Cowboys do to

0:24:33.400 --> 0:24:35.359
<v Speaker 1>try to negate some of what Kamara brings? Well, they

0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:37.960
<v Speaker 1>scored ten points in the game and the defense was

0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:40.080
<v Speaker 1>getting off the field a lot. So part of the

0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:42.359
<v Speaker 1>fact that he didn't have a lot of numbers there

0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:45.240
<v Speaker 1>is he was probably you know, the third down spy,

0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:47.000
<v Speaker 1>third and long, and there wasn't a lot of those

0:24:47.080 --> 0:24:49.960
<v Speaker 1>situations because they were stopping him. So he did well

0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:53.960
<v Speaker 1>in that, but also nobody was expecting it, and I

0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:56.040
<v Speaker 1>don't think you can come back and do it again.

0:24:56.520 --> 0:24:58.960
<v Speaker 1>And so I think that was the element that made

0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:01.520
<v Speaker 1>it work, is that Jordan Lewis, he hasn't played a

0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:03.000
<v Speaker 1>lot and now all of a sudden, he's the guy

0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:06.560
<v Speaker 1>that's shadowing. It makes sense, but I doubt that they'll

0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:08.480
<v Speaker 1>They'll just say we're going to do that at least

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:10.720
<v Speaker 1>for as many plays as they did in that one.

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:14.120
<v Speaker 1>But if it's on him, it could be somebody else.

0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I just think Kamara's role is different

0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:18.600
<v Speaker 1>than it was. That's what I was gonna say, is

0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at last year's box score right now. Kamara

0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:24.960
<v Speaker 1>did lead the team and carries he had eleven, but

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Ingram was out there. Ingram had seven carries. Ingram had

0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:31.800
<v Speaker 1>two receptions in that game. I just think there was

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:35.000
<v Speaker 1>a more even split. And again, Kamara has never been

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:38.080
<v Speaker 1>a typical scat back, but they did used to split

0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:40.280
<v Speaker 1>that workload a lot more. I don't expect that to

0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:42.560
<v Speaker 1>be the case in this game, like Latvia. Like I said,

0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Latavia's Murray hasn't shown you anything resembling what Mark Ingram

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:50.000
<v Speaker 1>can do. This is to me what I mean, I'm

0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:54.400
<v Speaker 1>not saying the same back. But whatever plan that they

0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:57.399
<v Speaker 1>had for Barkley, you know, what they wanted to do

0:25:57.520 --> 0:26:01.480
<v Speaker 1>to stop a dynamic, featured running back is something they

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:04.400
<v Speaker 1>should do, you know, in a similar way. Now Barkley.

0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:06.919
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they should do better than that because Barkley similar

0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:11.159
<v Speaker 1>well I mean way, but if you can't stop him,

0:26:11.160 --> 0:26:13.159
<v Speaker 1>you can't stop him. But I meant treat him like

0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:16.520
<v Speaker 1>a running back that can hurt you, you know, inside

0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 1>the tackles, announce them. This is gonna be a fun

0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:21.240
<v Speaker 1>litmus test because there's kind of a you know, the

0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:24.520
<v Speaker 1>storyline going right now, is Joe Thomas got involved against

0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:28.160
<v Speaker 1>the Dolphins, Like, is everything okay with Jalen is Layton

0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:32.200
<v Speaker 1>vander esh playing up to his ability? Well, we will,

0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:34.440
<v Speaker 1>we'll know. We'll know at the end of this week,

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:36.879
<v Speaker 1>probably because and Jordan Lewis might have something to do

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 1>with this. But for the amount that Kamar is going

0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:41.640
<v Speaker 1>to be playing, you know, I don't I don't think

0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:43.480
<v Speaker 1>that's going to make the difference in this game, even

0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:45.159
<v Speaker 1>if they did do it again, I think it's going

0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 1>to be about how your linebackers and safeties rallied to

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:51.800
<v Speaker 1>him and tackle him because again, I mean, please if

0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:54.680
<v Speaker 1>you can go find the highlight package, because like it's

0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:57.879
<v Speaker 1>I know he's a good player, but it's embarrassing on

0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:00.560
<v Speaker 1>the Seahawks part, like how often he was just able

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:03.480
<v Speaker 1>to shed them and I mean, like you know, running

0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:07.159
<v Speaker 1>into linebackers full speed and kind of just spinning and

0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 1>off to the races like he did it four or

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:12.920
<v Speaker 1>five different times where they should have had him stopped

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:15.800
<v Speaker 1>for anywhere from zero to four yards and he turned

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:19.120
<v Speaker 1>it into an eight to fifteen yard game. There have

0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:21.080
<v Speaker 1>been a little rumblings I think I've seen on Twitter.

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:22.720
<v Speaker 1>You guys may have seen him as well. If people

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 1>talking about the linebackers this year, I think mainly because

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:28.600
<v Speaker 1>they haven't made the big splash plays. What do you

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 1>guys think overall, just in the play of Layton vander

0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Esh and Jalen Smith this year so far, I mean,

0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that they are the core of the defense

0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:40.080
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, and they're right there in the middle.

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:43.320
<v Speaker 1>And the defensive line has been good at times, a

0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:46.000
<v Speaker 1>secondary has been pretty good. I mean, they've all had

0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:49.280
<v Speaker 1>their moments, but I just think those two guys are

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:51.880
<v Speaker 1>the ones that get it done. Now, they haven't had

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:56.120
<v Speaker 1>those huge turnovers. Well, Jayden Smith had a pretty big

0:27:56.119 --> 0:28:00.919
<v Speaker 1>turnover last week and force in that fumble, But it's

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 1>the tackles. They're not all over the field making you know,

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:06.159
<v Speaker 1>a ton of plays twenty tackles or a game or

0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 1>anything like that. But I still think it kind of

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 1>starts with them their ability to run sideline to sideline. Yeah,

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:15.199
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of what makes this defense goes. So I

0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 1>think they've played pretty good, but we've we expect them

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:21.440
<v Speaker 1>to be like the best linebackers in the league, and

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:24.600
<v Speaker 1>when that happens, you expect bigger plays. So we've been

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 1>saying about the defensive line to the first three games.

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:29.480
<v Speaker 1>The standards with Rod Marinelli and the defense in general

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:31.240
<v Speaker 1>is so high. And you guys were talking about on

0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:33.359
<v Speaker 1>Cover four this week of just people are being so

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 1>critical because they know what this team can do. And

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 1>it's not that they're playing terrible, not, you know, but

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 1>it's just we've seen what they can do and I

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 1>don't think they've hit that yet. I haven't seen the

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 1>instincts yet this season. Like Sean this was Sean Lee's

0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 1>hallmark when he was at his peak and vander esh

0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 1>and Jalen have both done it. At times, is like

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback is dropping his arm back to throw and

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 1>they're already on the move, like you can see it

0:28:57.120 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>in real time. You're like, oh, he's gonna blow this

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 1>up and the ball has even left the quarterback's hand.

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Yet we haven't seen that yet. I think there's room

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 1>for both of them to improve. I do think it's

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 1>it's at least curious that Joe Thomas got involved as

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 1>much as he did on Sunday. You know, Jalen spent

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:17.240
<v Speaker 1>a series on the sideline. He didn't appear to be hurt.

0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I know, you know, there's people saying he rushed the

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:23.760
<v Speaker 1>passer more in that game, but linebackers blitz all the

0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:25.680
<v Speaker 1>time across the league, So I don't know if I

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:28.600
<v Speaker 1>buy that. But at the same time, you know, it's

0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 1>it's the Dolphins that you know, they took care of business.

0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Jalen forced to fumble in the red zone. I think

0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of handwringing, and I haven't seen enough

0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 1>evidence to concern me yet. I think I do think

0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 1>they need to raise their level of play to meet

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 1>the expectations that they have put on themselves, but it's

0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 1>not something that I'm losing sleep about right now. But again,

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 1>sorry Nick, but this game will be a great litmus

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 1>test for how far they actually have to go. Jalen

0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Smith is eleven tackles in each of the first three games.

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's that's a pace for one seventy

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 1>six um last year I think it was one fifty one.

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I think Layton was at one seventy six. He's you know,

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 1>he has the force fumble, he has a fumble recovery

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 1>as well. I think that that's pretty solid. I mean,

0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 1>that's that's really good. Vander esh is the one that

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 1>had his tackle numbers are down a little bit, uh nine,

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 1>five and eight. He did have the half sack, forced fumble,

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 1>recovery and all that. But I think the style of

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 1>the game too is a part of it. You know,

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 1>last year, you know they were winning these closer games

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:37.840
<v Speaker 1>where teams are playing you know, and their their base

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:41.200
<v Speaker 1>offense a lot more now with with having a second

0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 1>half lead the way they have and playing a more

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 1>of a ben But don't break defense. You are going

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 1>to have take less chances. You're gonna keep the guys

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 1>in front of you. More, make the tackle, keep the

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 1>clock going, and I think that's just not gonna not

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 1>conducive to making as many impact plays. I agree with.

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:00.800
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I'm interested to see what the defense looks

0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 1>like in a game where the outcome is endowed in

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 1>the fourth quarter. I still, I mean, they were ugly

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 1>in the first half against the Dolphins. I just there's

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:11.720
<v Speaker 1>no way to get out from under that. And they

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:14.640
<v Speaker 1>deserve credit for being much much better in the second half,

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 1>but they You still don't want to see a defense

0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 1>that's supposed to be elite struggle with such a bad

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 1>team like that. So um there, I mean, there's plenty

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 1>of room for improvement. It just hasn't been as bad

0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 1>as some people want to have, you believe in my opinion.

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:32.200
<v Speaker 1>And we say struggle relatively striking. They gave up six

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 1>points struggling as much as you can struggle when you

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 1>hold him to two hundred and sixty yards and win

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 1>by twenty four points. Jose, we're gonna talk about the

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 1>pass rush at all? Yeah, why don't we do this.

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:43.959
<v Speaker 1>Let's take our final break, we'll come back. Let's talk

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 1>about the pass rush setwood Nicks has cooked over there.

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:49.280
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<v Speaker 1>It is the final segment of The Break Live from

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<v Speaker 1>the SWBC Mortgage studios. At the start, just before we

0:33:57.800 --> 0:34:00.120
<v Speaker 1>went to break, Nick had a little something. It's tell

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:01.960
<v Speaker 1>us about the pass rush, Nick, what you got? Well,

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:06.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, they got Robert Quinn to be a complimentary guy,

0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 1>just be another pass rusher on the other side of

0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:11.359
<v Speaker 1>d law and in one game, I mean, he's doing

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 1>the exactly that they have a stat here. I don't

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 1>know exactly when they started keeping pressures as a stat

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:20.800
<v Speaker 1>and I get it, Harvey Martin, Tutall Jones, Bob Lilly,

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:23.760
<v Speaker 1>they probably did it all time, but they really started

0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 1>keeping this about fifteen years ago. And since they've done

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 1>that only four times has somebody had seven pressures in

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:32.880
<v Speaker 1>a game. D Where did it twice? To Marcus Lawrence

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:34.960
<v Speaker 1>did it once and now Robert Quinn has done it.

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:37.920
<v Speaker 1>And the fact that he's done it, you know, in

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 1>one game, I mean the fact that he just one

0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 1>game and that's is that what we're going to get

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:44.920
<v Speaker 1>out of him? No? Probably not. The Dolphins are probably

0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 1>don't have the best offensive line where it sounds like

0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 1>they's gonna face a better line this week. But to

0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 1>come in and tie the Cowboys record for pressures in

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 1>one game. I mean that just shows that you know,

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:57.279
<v Speaker 1>that's what you want. You want him to get around

0:34:57.280 --> 0:34:58.920
<v Speaker 1>the edge and be that kind of player. It was

0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 1>good timing he came back with Crawford being out with

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 1>the hand injury, and we've been talking all week. I mean,

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 1>three wins are three wins regardless. These are good players

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 1>on the teams. I do think this is the point

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 1>in the season when you start hitting more balanced teams

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 1>and teams who I've been performing better. So it'll be

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:20.319
<v Speaker 1>interesting to see how Quinn can handle the next few

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 1>games since we've only seen one game with him with

0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys, and see fracture's hand through training camp. So

0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 1>and also take into account when and if Crawford comes back. Yeah,

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 1>act that decision, you know. I think another thing that

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:37.719
<v Speaker 1>seems to me anyway, I don't have any empirical proof

0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:40.719
<v Speaker 1>of this, but seems to me weeks four or five six,

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:43.719
<v Speaker 1>that time frame of the season is when teams that

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:46.759
<v Speaker 1>are that have good veteran players, whether veteran players start

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 1>really showing up. I think I believe it's because in

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:51.680
<v Speaker 1>today's NFL, a lot of veterans don't get a lot

0:35:51.719 --> 0:35:54.759
<v Speaker 1>of time during the preseason to play. But I think

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:56.879
<v Speaker 1>this is when you start seeing kind of those teams

0:35:56.920 --> 0:35:58.400
<v Speaker 1>that you see it every year. I see it in

0:35:58.480 --> 0:36:00.640
<v Speaker 1>fantasy every year. You see it the beginning, like there

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:02.320
<v Speaker 1>are these players that are kind of showing up and

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:04.880
<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, so, who's this new guy? And around

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:06.719
<v Speaker 1>about four or five is when you start seeing the

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 1>regular mainstays, those guys that have been around for a

0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:11.279
<v Speaker 1>long time, been doing it really well for a long time,

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 1>they start to kind of show up. And so that's

0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:16.359
<v Speaker 1>where I look at this and I say, I think

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:18.719
<v Speaker 1>this is coming out a good time because you know

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:21.800
<v Speaker 1>you're about to match up two really good teams that

0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 1>should be hitting your strides. About nine, you know you've

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 1>played enough games now where they should start figuring out

0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 1>what they do well, what they don't do well, hide

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 1>the things you don't do so well, and do more

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:33.359
<v Speaker 1>of the things that you do well. And that's where

0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:35.239
<v Speaker 1>I think teams start kind of getting on these roles.

0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 1>So I'm interested to see at this point, hey had

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:39.640
<v Speaker 1>these three games, like you said, against teams that may

0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:41.640
<v Speaker 1>not be great, but at this point they should know

0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:43.359
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more about those things, so they should

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:46.440
<v Speaker 1>go into a game like this, I think, very well prepared,

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:49.239
<v Speaker 1>hit their stride and do some things that maybe they

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of have figured out that this team does really well,

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:55.480
<v Speaker 1>do them more often regardless. I mean, even if they

0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:57.680
<v Speaker 1>lose to the Eagles tomorrow night, the Packers will be

0:36:57.960 --> 0:37:00.640
<v Speaker 1>three and one heading into this to the next game.

0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:03.000
<v Speaker 1>So I mean, yeah, I mean, this is this is

0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:05.960
<v Speaker 1>where it gets tough. I mean, I know it's the NFL.

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:08.760
<v Speaker 1>We keep saying that they're all tough everything, but I mean, shoot,

0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I study the Dolphins, I study the opposing team. I

0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:15.800
<v Speaker 1>already forgot who plays tackle for them? Do you all remember? No?

0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:19.040
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know Armstead and Ramcheck are two of

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 1>the best. And then I know the week after that

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:23.399
<v Speaker 1>they got Bactra and Bulaga. Like you start to play

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:25.399
<v Speaker 1>guys the boy that are right among the best. Yeah, yeah,

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 1>it's we're gonna We're gonna have a much better idea

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:31.520
<v Speaker 1>soon of I mean everything, Like I said, can Jalen

0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:33.960
<v Speaker 1>and vander esh handle a guy like Album Kamara, Can

0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 1>DeMarcus Lawrence and Robert Quinn get home against Pro Bowl

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 1>caliber tackles? I mean it is a difference. You know,

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I was looking at this list of seven pressures and

0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:45.480
<v Speaker 1>there's some six on here as well. Sean Lee got

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:47.840
<v Speaker 1>six in a game against Baltimore. Like that just seems

0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:52.239
<v Speaker 1>weird that you would blitz enough six blitz is in

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:55.840
<v Speaker 1>a game. But then to what years that? Twenty twelve?

0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:58.960
<v Speaker 1>How about? I mean, I it feels like it feels

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 1>like another lifetime. In twenty thirteen, my first season, Shawn

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Lee had six interceptions and took two of them to

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 1>the house. Really, yeah, that's that's what I'm saying. It's

0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:10.880
<v Speaker 1>like that, You're like, that doesn't sound like him, That

0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 1>doesn't sound like it didn't the Dallas defense returning an

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 1>interception for a touchdown a Pro Bowl, I'm gonna I'm

0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:20.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna call a little high on the six. It was.

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 1>It was either five or six. I would bet my

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:26.960
<v Speaker 1>life and I just that's a lot. That's an I

0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:29.920
<v Speaker 1>don't remember the touchdowns. I mean he had eagles. He

0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:32.320
<v Speaker 1>had one, all right, I got it right here, and

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:34.560
<v Speaker 1>two of them would pick six as well. Twenty. I

0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:38.320
<v Speaker 1>don't call that, damn it. It was four. I was close.

0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:42.799
<v Speaker 1>He had one touchdowns one and it was a nope.

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Chargers they lost that game. It was when Terrence Williams

0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:49.040
<v Speaker 1>fumbled stretching for the goal line. I remember, yeah, And

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I do remember his first pick six was against Peyton

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Manning Scandrick had one name had Sewn had four picks

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:58.120
<v Speaker 1>in two different seasons. He did it in eleven two.

0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:00.920
<v Speaker 1>He's I mean, I don't know where he ranks on

0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:04.160
<v Speaker 1>all time linebackers for interceptions. I feel like Leroy Jordan,

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:06.279
<v Speaker 1>Chuck Halley, those guys had some. But he's he's up

0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:08.319
<v Speaker 1>there too. Dextra Cokeley got a lot of picks. Yeah,

0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:10.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't Dextra Cokely go to a Pro Bowl one

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 1>year after he had a couple of picks two two

0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 1>on Thanksgiving Day and we were like, you know, well

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:17.120
<v Speaker 1>that'll help him make the Pro Bowl and he did.

0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:20.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, but and you know in vander Esh's I

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:23.920
<v Speaker 1>guess he's got two yeah, two back to back games

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:27.279
<v Speaker 1>last year Atlanta. Those those were big plays in the

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:32.200
<v Speaker 1>game too, So that's I think. You know, we talked

0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:35.640
<v Speaker 1>about the instincts and the tackling, and that's super important,

0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:38.840
<v Speaker 1>especially in a game like this, but people will probably

0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:40.799
<v Speaker 1>forgive some of that if you can start getting your

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:43.239
<v Speaker 1>hands on some footballs too, and that's chances. You know,

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:45.640
<v Speaker 1>they had had plenty of chances. I mean, that's the

0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 1>story of the Dallas defense as long as I've been here,

0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 1>is like almost just almost. We were talking about Luke

0:39:54.080 --> 0:39:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Gifford earlier and I wasn't going to bring this up again,

0:39:56.040 --> 0:40:00.279
<v Speaker 1>but you know, he he's in an absolute perfect to

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 1>be a Really I don't know if he's got the

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:05.239
<v Speaker 1>talent to be a good linebacker, but he's in a

0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 1>perfect spot. Any young linebacker is because when you think

0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:12.800
<v Speaker 1>about instincts, preparation, desire, will all that, there's probably nobody

0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 1>better than Shaun Lee. It's just unfortunate with the injuries

0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:18.719
<v Speaker 1>and all that, but he from preparation standpoint and knowing

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 1>where you're supposed to be and lined up, Shaun Lee

0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 1>is perfect to be there with. How about hitting, tackling,

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:28.120
<v Speaker 1>flying around the ball, Jalen Smith does as well as anybody.

0:40:28.239 --> 0:40:30.920
<v Speaker 1>The hardest hitter might be Joe Thomas when he comes

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 1>in the game, he's just pissed off one to hit people.

0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:35.480
<v Speaker 1>And then you got the combination of all of that

0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:37.920
<v Speaker 1>with Layton Vandersch, It's just a great spot for a

0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:40.320
<v Speaker 1>young linebacker to be to maybe learn from all of

0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:43.399
<v Speaker 1>those guys, and you know, especially Joe Thomas being ready

0:40:43.440 --> 0:40:44.680
<v Speaker 1>when you come in the game, get in there and

0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:47.239
<v Speaker 1>make an impact. That's and I look, I get it.

0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 1>They just gave Jayalen a lot of money. You want

0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:51.800
<v Speaker 1>to see him play up to it, but he hasn't.

0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:54.239
<v Speaker 1>It's not so drastic that I'm worried about it. And

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:56.720
<v Speaker 1>if the upshot of that is that there's their fourth

0:40:56.800 --> 0:40:59.000
<v Speaker 1>linebacker is good enough to come in and take some

0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:02.480
<v Speaker 1>snaps and play well against an overmatched opponent, I'm just

0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:05.279
<v Speaker 1>not worried about that. Let's talk again in two or

0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:08.480
<v Speaker 1>three weeks and it'll be a different conversation, hopefully for

0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 1>the better. But it's just not at a point where

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm losing sleep. Wasn't just like a Zeke Pollar thing. Yes,

0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:17.719
<v Speaker 1>That's that's why I look at it too. Is when

0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:20.360
<v Speaker 1>you're playing a game like this with Cowboys got by

0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:23.040
<v Speaker 1>the third quarter, they kind of put this game out

0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:25.240
<v Speaker 1>of hand. I mean it is that just a situation

0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:28.080
<v Speaker 1>where there's just kind of giving my counter Like Jalen

0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:30.360
<v Speaker 1>came out in the first half when the game was

0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:33.759
<v Speaker 1>still not put away like that, But in a game

0:41:33.800 --> 0:41:36.839
<v Speaker 1>like this one, they would expect that They're Yeah, it's

0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:39.319
<v Speaker 1>totally what could they have gone into the game saying, hey,

0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:41.920
<v Speaker 1>let's let's kind of use these other this other guy

0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:44.000
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more just because we feel like we

0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:46.920
<v Speaker 1>can do it. It is possible that that's what happened. Yeah,

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:52.879
<v Speaker 1>we don't know, um so yeah, but I just I'm

0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm struggling to get worked up about this based on

0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:57.560
<v Speaker 1>what we've seen so far. Net is, it's not a

0:41:57.600 --> 0:42:00.040
<v Speaker 1>concern right now, and I think Jalen's played Okay. I

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:01.960
<v Speaker 1>think again, as I preface this, I think they're just

0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:05.000
<v Speaker 1>rumbling people on Twitter like they're expecting to see more

0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:08.600
<v Speaker 1>of these big players receivers over the middle. Well, but

0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:12.480
<v Speaker 1>you just mentioned it eleven tackles each of the three games, Like,

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 1>that's not equibal with that, because if you're catching guys

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:20.040
<v Speaker 1>twelve yards down field, it counts as a tackle. But

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:22.360
<v Speaker 1>it's not one that anybody's pumped about. Right. Yeah, But

0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:25.359
<v Speaker 1>you're catching guys down the field at the linebacker position, right,

0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:27.360
<v Speaker 1>That's that's a good thing. There's not a lot of

0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:30.320
<v Speaker 1>linebackers that can catch people down the field. My point is,

0:42:30.360 --> 0:42:32.799
<v Speaker 1>what if he's twelve yards downfield, because it's something you miss, right,

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:35.040
<v Speaker 1>But will you go to the games like you watch it.

0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean like he's playing pretty well. He's around the ball,

0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:40.440
<v Speaker 1>he's doing what your middle linebackers, I think is supposed

0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:42.680
<v Speaker 1>to do. Eleven tackles. What is the line Number one

0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:45.960
<v Speaker 1>for a linebacker person, most important job is you gotta tackle.

0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:48.440
<v Speaker 1>And I think if you're getting eleven tackles a game

0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:51.080
<v Speaker 1>at linebacker, if a safety is getting eleven tackles a game, now,

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:53.319
<v Speaker 1>I think you're probably in a little different situation. Yeah.

0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Before a linebacker to get eleven tackles per game in

0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:57.719
<v Speaker 1>the first three games, that's significant to me. I think

0:42:57.760 --> 0:43:00.239
<v Speaker 1>he's doing his job. I am. I am not worried

0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:02.839
<v Speaker 1>about it. I'll say it again, but you know, these

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 1>these next two teams will provide a much clearer idea

0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:08.880
<v Speaker 1>of whether or not it's a problem. Absolutely all right, Well,

0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:11.239
<v Speaker 1>we appreciate you, guys, Jonas. We're back tomorrow eleven forty

0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:14.520
<v Speaker 1>five till then for Nick Eatman, Dave him Hellman, Danny Serect.

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