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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, September twenty fifth, twenty nineteen, season fifteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number fifty one. Welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 1: The Break. We're live the s WBC Mortgage Studios at

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Speaker 1: the Star. Got Nick and Dave dating back with us today, Right,

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Speaker 1: we get a bonus a day of Danny special guest. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so it should be fun here. We got a lot

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Speaker 1: to talk about. This is I think the first week

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Speaker 1: that we've been doing this show this season where where

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Speaker 1: we're going to have our look at the opponent, and

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Speaker 1: it actually feels like there's a lot to talk about

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Speaker 1: when you talk about all the personnel that they have.

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Speaker 1: Dave's gonna have his breakdown of the Saints offense and

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Speaker 1: we'll get into that today. Tomorrow we'll talk about their defense.

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Speaker 1: But when you start going through this thing, there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys that you have to talk about,

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys that can be potential weapons for

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Speaker 1: this team, probably more than any other team that we've

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Speaker 1: that the Cowboys have faced this season. We'll get into

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Speaker 1: that in just a second before we go there, though,

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Speaker 1: I did want to talk first about a couple of

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Speaker 1: up on Xavier Woods and Tavon Austin. We'll let Dave

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Speaker 1: did that. They're both at practice, good both. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're both expected to be limited. But you know, if

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Speaker 1: a good sign. That's where they're at. Yeah, I mean, like, well,

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Speaker 1: But you know, we talked about it yesterday. The four

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Speaker 1: to six week prognosis for Xavier Woods looks pretty faulty. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's been less than two and he's practicing again,

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Speaker 1: good sign. Antoine Woods and tarn Crawford. Tarn Crawford not

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Speaker 1: that is a little not surprising. I mean, it makes sense,

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Speaker 1: but it's just kind of out of sight, out of mind,

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Speaker 1: Like haven't seen him since he heard his ankle in

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Speaker 1: San Francisco. That was August tenth. Been a long time.

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Speaker 1: So he's out there practice brain right, Yeah, which looked

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Speaker 1: but you know, the interesting part there is they kept

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Speaker 1: and I know they've talked about it a lot. That

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Speaker 1: kept him on the training camp roster. They he had

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Speaker 1: made the team. I think that was probably the most

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Speaker 1: expensive interception ever to get an interception and then get

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Speaker 1: hurt like that, because like, okay, you're on the team,

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Speaker 1: you're done enough to be here. But to be here,

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Speaker 1: he's probably they're expecting him to be a special teams guy,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't think that he's going to live up to those expectations,

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Speaker 1: this is a team that's very, very deep the linebacker position,

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Speaker 1: Let's start. Dave, give us your your breakdown of this

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Speaker 1: The amazing thing is, honestly, he would have had a

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Speaker 1: you just described Jerome Bettis's career honestly average. If they

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Speaker 1: like you know, Darren Sproles was so successful in New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: It's just not true. Jason Garrett said it today. Heat

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Speaker 1: because Steven Jones said that Tony Pollard is Alvin Kamara

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Speaker 1: Lyle Collins, but they could have gotten themselves a Pro

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Speaker 1: you watched Inside the NFL at all. They it's Michael

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Speaker 1: Irvin's on it now, I think filling in for ray Lewis.

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Speaker 1: it was like it was a perfect storm for Teddy

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Speaker 1: actually every throw of Teddy Bridgewater's game. He threw one

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Speaker 1: I counted three balls that went further than fifteen yards downfield.

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Speaker 1: Brees is a guy that can manipulate the pocket, throw

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Speaker 1: I know Alvin Kamara is really good, but it's amazing

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Speaker 1: to me that it worked that well. That's my main

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Speaker 1: impression from this game is they were like, let's manufacture

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Speaker 1: did almost he almost threw a pick six in this

426
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Speaker 1: game when he had one of his guards fallen back

427
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Speaker 1: into his lap. But I don't think he's gonna make

428
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Speaker 1: dumb mistakes. I think that's his best attribute. I don't

429
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 1: really watch him enough. I haven't seen him. I know.

430
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 1: All I know is that, you know, for a little

431
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 1: bit with Minnesota, he was he was a guy that

432
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 1: had him excited, and then he didn't, you know, he

433
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 1: got hurt and then they were ready to sort of

434
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Speaker 1: move on, and so you know, he hadn't had a

435
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Speaker 1: lot of opportunities. But he doesn't seem like the biggest

436
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,199
Speaker 1: guy to go look down the field and you know,

437
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 1: survey the scene. But then again, he's replacing a guy

438
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,879
Speaker 1: who isn't either, and he just he's headed to the

439
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. So, you know, I mean the way

440
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 1: that they have the structured on the offensive line protects

441
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,639
Speaker 1: shorter quarterbacks. I don't think he's like really short, but

442
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 1: he's not like a big, big guy. But I can't

443
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 1: say that I've seen him play a ton. I just

444
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,880
Speaker 1: know that there wasn't a lot of teams that were

445
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Speaker 1: like wanting him to be their starting quarterback most of

446
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 1: that the injury though, coming off the injury in Minnesota,

447
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,959
Speaker 1: and also there was just a video that was posted

448
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,439
Speaker 1: of him in the locker room after that win, just

449
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: kind of like saying like I don't want to tear up,

450
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 1: but like we need to cherish this moment after win,

451
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 1: like never take this for granted. And I think that's

452
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 1: something he's playing with that maybe he hasn't played with

453
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 1: in the past of because he was in Minnesota and

454
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 1: then he was hurt and hasn't really played. He has

455
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: this opportunity, and I think the weapons he has around

456
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 1: him knows he can be good and he really wants

457
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Speaker 1: to perform. I feel like they are quarterbacks that just

458
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,880
Speaker 1: maybe don't don't have that certain like that extra piece

459
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,640
Speaker 1: of heart or not that they don't want to play.

460
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 1: But he's he's fighting for something that he still has

461
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 1: it and I think that can be pretty powerful too.

462
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 1: And I think he's he's beloved in that locker room.

463
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: I think if I remember right, he had a chance

464
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 1: to sign with the Dolphins and and you know, compete

465
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 1: for the starting job there, and he's from Miami and

466
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 1: that made a lot of sense. But he decided to

467
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: stay with the Saints and be their backup. And you know,

468
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 1: I think that loyalty means a lot to the guys

469
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 1: in that locker room. Yeah you got foresight, Yeah that's true.

470
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: I mean also like be the backup for one of

471
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: the best teams in the league or start for a

472
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 1: dumpster fire. I mean yeah, Well, knowing that Drew Brees

473
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 1: we think is not going to play forever, right, you

474
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 1: don't know, sure, maybe he will. I just I mean

475
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: from what we've seen of him. Again, this is first

476
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: start in a long time. But I don't think he's

477
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: gonna come out and beat you slinging the rock. I mean,

478
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,719
Speaker 1: he could, but this is a good secondary. Even with

479
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Speaker 1: Cheeto's struggles last week. In the beginning of that game,

480
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 1: Byron Jones has looked really good, Like Byron Jones doesn't

481
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 1: necessarily look like a guy who missed all of training camp.

482
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Speaker 1: So with all of that, yes, Michael Thomas is something

483
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 1: to watch, but I think that's a net win for

484
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: the Cowboys secondary because again, and I know Ted Ginn

485
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,199
Speaker 1: can still run a four four. I get that, But

486
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 1: like out, this is not a receiver corps where you're

487
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 1: like they just have so many guys. I think most

488
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 1: people who pay attention to the Saints would tell you

489
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 1: that's a weak spot for them, and Drew Brees's ability

490
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 1: kind of helps paper over it. Yeah. All right, let's

491
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Speaker 1: we got a question actually here from DC Blue Star.

492
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Speaker 1: The question was, do you think that twenty seven gets

493
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 1: Kamara duties again this year? And I think a lot

494
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 1: was made of that the last time the Cowboys played them.

495
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis, you know, he had some plays where you know,

496
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Speaker 1: they kind of used him with Kamara. But I think

497
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: one of you guys said earlier this week he played

498
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Speaker 1: it was what seven plays that he had total in

499
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: that game. So I don't know that it was as

500
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Speaker 1: much of a part of the game plan as people

501
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,679
Speaker 1: as you know, history tells us, right. Yeah, But that

502
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 1: being said, what do you think the Cowboys do to

503
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Speaker 1: try to negate some of what Kamara brings? Well, they

504
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: scored ten points in the game and the defense was

505
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: getting off the field a lot. So part of the

506
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: fact that he didn't have a lot of numbers there

507
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: is he was probably you know, the third down spy,

508
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: third and long, and there wasn't a lot of those

509
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: situations because they were stopping him. So he did well

510
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: in that, but also nobody was expecting it, and I

511
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: don't think you can come back and do it again.

512
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Speaker 1: And so I think that was the element that made

513
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Speaker 1: it work, is that Jordan Lewis, he hasn't played a

514
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Speaker 1: lot and now all of a sudden, he's the guy

515
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: that's shadowing. It makes sense, but I doubt that they'll

516
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: They'll just say we're going to do that at least

517
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: for as many plays as they did in that one.

518
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 1: But if it's on him, it could be somebody else.

519
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: But you know, I just think Kamara's role is different

520
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: than it was. That's what I was gonna say, is

521
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm looking at last year's box score right now. Kamara

522
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: did lead the team and carries he had eleven, but

523
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Speaker 1: Ingram was out there. Ingram had seven carries. Ingram had

524
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Speaker 1: two receptions in that game. I just think there was

525
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: a more even split. And again, Kamara has never been

526
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: a typical scat back, but they did used to split

527
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: that workload a lot more. I don't expect that to

528
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: be the case in this game, like Latvia. Like I said,

529
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Speaker 1: Latavia's Murray hasn't shown you anything resembling what Mark Ingram

530
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Speaker 1: can do. This is to me what I mean, I'm

531
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 1: not saying the same back. But whatever plan that they

532
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 1: had for Barkley, you know, what they wanted to do

533
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Speaker 1: to stop a dynamic, featured running back is something they

534
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 1: should do, you know, in a similar way. Now Barkley.

535
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 1: Maybe they should do better than that because Barkley similar

536
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 1: well I mean way, but if you can't stop him,

537
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 1: you can't stop him. But I meant treat him like

538
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: a running back that can hurt you, you know, inside

539
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: the tackles, announce them. This is gonna be a fun

540
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: litmus test because there's kind of a you know, the

541
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: storyline going right now, is Joe Thomas got involved against

542
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, Like, is everything okay with Jalen is Layton

543
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: vander esh playing up to his ability? Well, we will,

544
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: we'll know. We'll know at the end of this week,

545
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: probably because and Jordan Lewis might have something to do

546
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: with this. But for the amount that Kamar is going

547
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 1: to be playing, you know, I don't I don't think

548
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: that's going to make the difference in this game, even

549
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 1: if they did do it again, I think it's going

550
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: to be about how your linebackers and safeties rallied to

551
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: him and tackle him because again, I mean, please if

552
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: you can go find the highlight package, because like it's

553
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: I know he's a good player, but it's embarrassing on

554
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: the Seahawks part, like how often he was just able

555
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: to shed them and I mean, like you know, running

556
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: into linebackers full speed and kind of just spinning and

557
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: off to the races like he did it four or

558
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: five different times where they should have had him stopped

559
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: for anywhere from zero to four yards and he turned

560
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 1: it into an eight to fifteen yard game. There have

561
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: been a little rumblings I think I've seen on Twitter.

562
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: You guys may have seen him as well. If people

563
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: talking about the linebackers this year, I think mainly because

564
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: they haven't made the big splash plays. What do you

565
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: guys think overall, just in the play of Layton vander

566
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: Esh and Jalen Smith this year so far, I mean,

567
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: I think that they are the core of the defense

568
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: in my opinion, and they're right there in the middle.

569
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Speaker 1: And the defensive line has been good at times, a

570
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: secondary has been pretty good. I mean, they've all had

571
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: their moments, but I just think those two guys are

572
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 1: the ones that get it done. Now, they haven't had

573
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Speaker 1: those huge turnovers. Well, Jayden Smith had a pretty big

574
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Speaker 1: turnover last week and force in that fumble, But it's

575
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Speaker 1: the tackles. They're not all over the field making you know,

576
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: a ton of plays twenty tackles or a game or

577
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: anything like that. But I still think it kind of

578
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: starts with them their ability to run sideline to sideline. Yeah,

579
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 1: it's kind of what makes this defense goes. So I

580
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: think they've played pretty good, but we've we expect them

581
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: to be like the best linebackers in the league, and

582
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: when that happens, you expect bigger plays. So we've been

583
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: saying about the defensive line to the first three games.

584
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: The standards with Rod Marinelli and the defense in general

585
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: is so high. And you guys were talking about on

586
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: Cover four this week of just people are being so

587
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: critical because they know what this team can do. And

588
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: it's not that they're playing terrible, not, you know, but

589
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: it's just we've seen what they can do and I

590
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: don't think they've hit that yet. I haven't seen the

591
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: instincts yet this season. Like Sean this was Sean Lee's

592
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: hallmark when he was at his peak and vander esh

593
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: and Jalen have both done it. At times, is like

594
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: the quarterback is dropping his arm back to throw and

595
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: they're already on the move, like you can see it

596
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: in real time. You're like, oh, he's gonna blow this

597
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: up and the ball has even left the quarterback's hand.

598
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: Yet we haven't seen that yet. I think there's room

599
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: for both of them to improve. I do think it's

600
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: it's at least curious that Joe Thomas got involved as

601
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: much as he did on Sunday. You know, Jalen spent

602
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: a series on the sideline. He didn't appear to be hurt.

603
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: I know, you know, there's people saying he rushed the

604
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: passer more in that game, but linebackers blitz all the

605
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: time across the league, So I don't know if I

606
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: buy that. But at the same time, you know, it's

607
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: it's the Dolphins that you know, they took care of business.

608
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: Jalen forced to fumble in the red zone. I think

609
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: it's a lot of handwringing, and I haven't seen enough

610
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: evidence to concern me yet. I think I do think

611
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: they need to raise their level of play to meet

612
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: the expectations that they have put on themselves, but it's

613
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: not something that I'm losing sleep about right now. But again,

614
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: sorry Nick, but this game will be a great litmus

615
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: test for how far they actually have to go. Jalen

616
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: Smith is eleven tackles in each of the first three games.

617
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's that's a pace for one seventy

618
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: six um last year I think it was one fifty one.

619
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Speaker 1: I think Layton was at one seventy six. He's you know,

620
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: he has the force fumble, he has a fumble recovery

621
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: as well. I think that that's pretty solid. I mean,

622
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: that's that's really good. Vander esh is the one that

623
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: had his tackle numbers are down a little bit, uh nine,

624
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: five and eight. He did have the half sack, forced fumble,

625
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: recovery and all that. But I think the style of

626
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: the game too is a part of it. You know,

627
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: last year, you know they were winning these closer games

628
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: where teams are playing you know, and their their base

629
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: offense a lot more now with with having a second

630
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: half lead the way they have and playing a more

631
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: of a ben But don't break defense. You are going

632
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: to have take less chances. You're gonna keep the guys

633
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: in front of you. More, make the tackle, keep the

634
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: clock going, and I think that's just not gonna not

635
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: conducive to making as many impact plays. I agree with.

636
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm interested to see what the defense looks

637
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: like in a game where the outcome is endowed in

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. I still, I mean, they were ugly

639
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Speaker 1: in the first half against the Dolphins. I just there's

640
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Speaker 1: no way to get out from under that. And they

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Speaker 1: deserve credit for being much much better in the second half,

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Speaker 1: but they You still don't want to see a defense

643
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Speaker 1: that's supposed to be elite struggle with such a bad

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Speaker 1: team like that. So um there, I mean, there's plenty

645
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Speaker 1: of room for improvement. It just hasn't been as bad

646
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Speaker 1: as some people want to have, you believe in my opinion.

647
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Speaker 1: And we say struggle relatively striking. They gave up six

648
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Speaker 1: points struggling as much as you can struggle when you

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Speaker 1: hold him to two hundred and sixty yards and win

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Speaker 1: by twenty four points. Jose, we're gonna talk about the

651
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Speaker 1: pass rush at all? Yeah, why don't we do this.

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Speaker 1: Let's take our final break, we'll come back. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: about the pass rush setwood Nicks has cooked over there.

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Speaker 1: It is the final segment of The Break Live from

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Speaker 1: the SWBC Mortgage studios. At the start, just before we

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Speaker 1: went to break, Nick had a little something. It's tell

694
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Speaker 1: us about the pass rush, Nick, what you got? Well,

695
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: you know, they got Robert Quinn to be a complimentary guy,

696
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: just be another pass rusher on the other side of

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Speaker 1: d law and in one game, I mean, he's doing

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Speaker 1: the exactly that they have a stat here. I don't

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Speaker 1: know exactly when they started keeping pressures as a stat

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Speaker 1: and I get it, Harvey Martin, Tutall Jones, Bob Lilly,

701
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 1: they probably did it all time, but they really started

702
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: keeping this about fifteen years ago. And since they've done

703
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Speaker 1: that only four times has somebody had seven pressures in

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Speaker 1: a game. D Where did it twice? To Marcus Lawrence

705
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: did it once and now Robert Quinn has done it.

706
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Speaker 1: And the fact that he's done it, you know, in

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Speaker 1: one game, I mean the fact that he just one

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Speaker 1: game and that's is that what we're going to get

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Speaker 1: out of him? No? Probably not. The Dolphins are probably

710
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: don't have the best offensive line where it sounds like

711
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: they's gonna face a better line this week. But to

712
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Speaker 1: come in and tie the Cowboys record for pressures in

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Speaker 1: one game. I mean that just shows that you know,

714
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: that's what you want. You want him to get around

715
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Speaker 1: the edge and be that kind of player. It was

716
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: good timing he came back with Crawford being out with

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Speaker 1: the hand injury, and we've been talking all week. I mean,

718
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: three wins are three wins regardless. These are good players

719
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: on the teams. I do think this is the point

720
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Speaker 1: in the season when you start hitting more balanced teams

721
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: and teams who I've been performing better. So it'll be

722
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Speaker 1: interesting to see how Quinn can handle the next few

723
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Speaker 1: games since we've only seen one game with him with

724
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and see fracture's hand through training camp. So

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00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: and also take into account when and if Crawford comes back. Yeah,

726
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: act that decision, you know. I think another thing that

727
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: seems to me anyway, I don't have any empirical proof

728
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Speaker 1: of this, but seems to me weeks four or five six,

729
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: that time frame of the season is when teams that

730
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Speaker 1: are that have good veteran players, whether veteran players start

731
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Speaker 1: really showing up. I think I believe it's because in

732
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: today's NFL, a lot of veterans don't get a lot

733
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: of time during the preseason to play. But I think

734
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Speaker 1: this is when you start seeing kind of those teams

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Speaker 1: that you see it every year. I see it in

736
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Speaker 1: fantasy every year. You see it the beginning, like there

737
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 1: are these players that are kind of showing up and

738
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, so, who's this new guy? And around

739
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: about four or five is when you start seeing the

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Speaker 1: regular mainstays, those guys that have been around for a

741
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: long time, been doing it really well for a long time,

742
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: they start to kind of show up. And so that's

743
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: where I look at this and I say, I think

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Speaker 1: this is coming out a good time because you know

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Speaker 1: you're about to match up two really good teams that

746
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: should be hitting your strides. About nine, you know you've

747
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: played enough games now where they should start figuring out

748
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: what they do well, what they don't do well, hide

749
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Speaker 1: the things you don't do so well, and do more

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Speaker 1: of the things that you do well. And that's where

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00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: I think teams start kind of getting on these roles.

752
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: So I'm interested to see at this point, hey had

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Speaker 1: these three games, like you said, against teams that may

754
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: not be great, but at this point they should know

755
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: a little bit more about those things, so they should

756
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: go into a game like this, I think, very well prepared,

757
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: hit their stride and do some things that maybe they

758
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: kind of have figured out that this team does really well,

759
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: do them more often regardless. I mean, even if they

760
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Speaker 1: lose to the Eagles tomorrow night, the Packers will be

761
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Speaker 1: three and one heading into this to the next game.

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00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: So I mean, yeah, I mean, this is this is

763
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: where it gets tough. I mean, I know it's the NFL.

764
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 1: We keep saying that they're all tough everything, but I mean, shoot,

765
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: I study the Dolphins, I study the opposing team. I

766
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: already forgot who plays tackle for them? Do you all remember? No?

767
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: I know, I know Armstead and Ramcheck are two of

768
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Speaker 1: the best. And then I know the week after that

769
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 1: they got Bactra and Bulaga. Like you start to play

770
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 1: guys the boy that are right among the best. Yeah, yeah,

771
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: it's we're gonna We're gonna have a much better idea

772
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: soon of I mean everything, Like I said, can Jalen

773
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Speaker 1: and vander esh handle a guy like Album Kamara, Can

774
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Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence and Robert Quinn get home against Pro Bowl

775
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: caliber tackles? I mean it is a difference. You know,

776
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: I was looking at this list of seven pressures and

777
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: there's some six on here as well. Sean Lee got

778
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: six in a game against Baltimore. Like that just seems

779
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: weird that you would blitz enough six blitz is in

780
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: a game. But then to what years that? Twenty twelve?

781
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: How about? I mean, I it feels like it feels

782
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: like another lifetime. In twenty thirteen, my first season, Shawn

783
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 1: Lee had six interceptions and took two of them to

784
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: the house. Really, yeah, that's that's what I'm saying. It's

785
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: like that, You're like, that doesn't sound like him, That

786
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like it didn't the Dallas defense returning an

787
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: interception for a touchdown a Pro Bowl, I'm gonna I'm

788
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: gonna call a little high on the six. It was.

789
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: It was either five or six. I would bet my

790
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: life and I just that's a lot. That's an I

791
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: don't remember the touchdowns. I mean he had eagles. He

792
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 1: had one, all right, I got it right here, and

793
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: two of them would pick six as well. Twenty. I

794
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 1: don't call that, damn it. It was four. I was close.

795
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: He had one touchdowns one and it was a nope.

796
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: Chargers they lost that game. It was when Terrence Williams

797
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: fumbled stretching for the goal line. I remember, yeah, And

798
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: I do remember his first pick six was against Peyton

799
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: Manning Scandrick had one name had Sewn had four picks

800
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: in two different seasons. He did it in eleven two.

801
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: He's I mean, I don't know where he ranks on

802
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: all time linebackers for interceptions. I feel like Leroy Jordan,

803
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: Chuck Halley, those guys had some. But he's he's up

804
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: there too. Dextra Cokeley got a lot of picks. Yeah,

805
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: I didn't Dextra Cokely go to a Pro Bowl one

806
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: year after he had a couple of picks two two

807
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving Day and we were like, you know, well

808
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: that'll help him make the Pro Bowl and he did.

809
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: You know, but and you know in vander Esh's I

810
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: guess he's got two yeah, two back to back games

811
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: last year Atlanta. Those those were big plays in the

812
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: game too, So that's I think. You know, we talked

813
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: about the instincts and the tackling, and that's super important,

814
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: especially in a game like this, but people will probably

815
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: forgive some of that if you can start getting your

816
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: hands on some footballs too, and that's chances. You know,

817
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: they had had plenty of chances. I mean, that's the

818
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: story of the Dallas defense as long as I've been here,

819
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: is like almost just almost. We were talking about Luke

820
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: Gifford earlier and I wasn't going to bring this up again,

821
00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: but you know, he he's in an absolute perfect to

822
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: be a Really I don't know if he's got the

823
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: talent to be a good linebacker, but he's in a

824
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: perfect spot. Any young linebacker is because when you think

825
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: about instincts, preparation, desire, will all that, there's probably nobody

826
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: better than Shaun Lee. It's just unfortunate with the injuries

827
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: and all that, but he from preparation standpoint and knowing

828
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: where you're supposed to be and lined up, Shaun Lee

829
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: is perfect to be there with. How about hitting, tackling,

830
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: flying around the ball, Jalen Smith does as well as anybody.

831
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: The hardest hitter might be Joe Thomas when he comes

832
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: in the game, he's just pissed off one to hit people.

833
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: And then you got the combination of all of that

834
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: with Layton Vandersch, It's just a great spot for a

835
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: young linebacker to be to maybe learn from all of

836
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 1: those guys, and you know, especially Joe Thomas being ready

837
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: when you come in the game, get in there and

838
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: make an impact. That's and I look, I get it.

839
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: They just gave Jayalen a lot of money. You want

840
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: to see him play up to it, but he hasn't.

841
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: It's not so drastic that I'm worried about it. And

842
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 1: if the upshot of that is that there's their fourth

843
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: linebacker is good enough to come in and take some

844
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: snaps and play well against an overmatched opponent, I'm just

845
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: not worried about that. Let's talk again in two or

846
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: three weeks and it'll be a different conversation, hopefully for

847
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: the better. But it's just not at a point where

848
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: I'm losing sleep. Wasn't just like a Zeke Pollar thing. Yes,

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Speaker 1: That's that's why I look at it too. Is when

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Speaker 1: you're playing a game like this with Cowboys got by

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Speaker 1: the third quarter, they kind of put this game out

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Speaker 1: of hand. I mean it is that just a situation

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Speaker 1: where there's just kind of giving my counter Like Jalen

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Speaker 1: came out in the first half when the game was

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Speaker 1: still not put away like that, But in a game

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Speaker 1: like this one, they would expect that They're Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: totally what could they have gone into the game saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: let's let's kind of use these other this other guy

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Speaker 1: a little bit more just because we feel like we

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Speaker 1: can do it. It is possible that that's what happened. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we don't know, um so yeah, but I just I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm struggling to get worked up about this based on

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Speaker 1: what we've seen so far. Net is, it's not a

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Speaker 1: concern right now, and I think Jalen's played Okay. I

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Speaker 1: think again, as I preface this, I think they're just

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Speaker 1: rumbling people on Twitter like they're expecting to see more

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Speaker 1: of these big players receivers over the middle. Well, but

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Speaker 1: you just mentioned it eleven tackles each of the three games, Like,

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Speaker 1: that's not equibal with that, because if you're catching guys

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Speaker 1: twelve yards down field, it counts as a tackle. But

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Speaker 1: it's not one that anybody's pumped about. Right. Yeah, But

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Speaker 1: you're catching guys down the field at the linebacker position, right,

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Speaker 1: That's that's a good thing. There's not a lot of

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Speaker 1: linebackers that can catch people down the field. My point is,

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Speaker 1: what if he's twelve yards downfield, because it's something you miss, right,

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Speaker 1: But will you go to the games like you watch it.

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Speaker 1: I mean like he's playing pretty well. He's around the ball,

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Speaker 1: he's doing what your middle linebackers, I think is supposed

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Speaker 1: to do. Eleven tackles. What is the line Number one

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Speaker 1: for a linebacker person, most important job is you gotta tackle.

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Speaker 1: And I think if you're getting eleven tackles a game

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Speaker 1: at linebacker, if a safety is getting eleven tackles a game, now,

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Speaker 1: I think you're probably in a little different situation. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Before a linebacker to get eleven tackles per game in

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Speaker 1: the first three games, that's significant to me. I think

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Speaker 1: he's doing his job. I am. I am not worried

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Speaker 1: about it. I'll say it again, but you know, these

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Speaker 1: these next two teams will provide a much clearer idea

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Speaker 1: of whether or not it's a problem. Absolutely all right, Well,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate you, guys, Jonas. We're back tomorrow eleven forty

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Speaker 1: five till then for Nick Eatman, Dave him Hellman, Danny Serect.

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