1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: You know your house smells, don't get mad. Don't get mad. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: My house smells too. I'm not I'm not indicting you. 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure you keep a clean home, but just time 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: means you're going to acquire smells. Whether those are cooking 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: smells that get in your paint, your carpet, maybe their 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: animals smells. Maybe you're a smoker, or someone else was 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: just living create smells. I didn't realize that my home 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: had a smell to it until I got my first 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: Eden Pure Thunderstorm, the greatest air purifier I've ever owned 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: in my life. This thing. I had it plugged in 11 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: for two hours. I came back in the room and 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: my air smells so clean. I now owned three of them. 13 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: I'm not making that up. This thing has absolutely changed 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: me on top of what it's done from my allergies. 15 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: Go get one, get two, you like me, and get three. 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: Go to Eden Pure deals dot com. Make sure you 17 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: use the promo code Jesse that gets you ten bucks 18 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: off and free shipping. Eden here deals dot com promo 19 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: code Jesse. This is a Jesse Kelly show. He had 20 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: bad eyes. He had the eyes of a killer. You 21 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: could see how frightening they were the frigid glare of 22 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: a killer. Who's the worst American gangster to ever live? Now? 23 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: I know what you're saying, Jesse. They're all bad. Yeah, 24 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: obviously they're all bad. But the human mind tends to 25 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: do this thing, especially when it comes to bad guys, 26 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: is we lump them all together. We act like they're 27 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: all while they're all criminals. Are all the same. Oh no, 28 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: they're not all the same. I'm not endorsing anybody's lifestyle, 29 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: but let's be honest. Are there degrees in your field? 30 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: Are there levels in your field? What? What's your field? 31 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: You're in construction? You build houses? Maybe all house builders 32 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: the same? Are all the people on your home building 33 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: crew the same? Even fields with you know a lot 34 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: more higher education doctors? I know we have docts. Listen 35 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: to the show. You email me all the time. I 36 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: know you're all doctor right? Get you all in a group? 37 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: You got eight thousand years of college? Are you all 38 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: the same? Or are there some really good ones? Are there? 39 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: Some morons? Are there? Some lazy ones? Crimes? No different? Quote, 40 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: bad people are no different. There are degrees, and there 41 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: was a man. Unless you were a mafia nut like 42 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: I am. There was a man you probably haven't heard of, 43 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: or maybe you've vaguely heard his name, and he was 44 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: probably the worst ever. His name was Carmine Galanti. He 45 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: was born stopped me. If you've heard this before to 46 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: poor Italian immigrants in New York City, I know you're 47 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: going to find that shocking. A bit of a theme here, 48 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: he was actually born in Harlem. Now you think of 49 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: Harlem today as the black part of town, which for 50 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: the most part it is. It was not that way 51 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: in the early nineteen hundreds. It was still poor, but 52 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: it was the Italian part of town for some reason. 53 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's somebody who specializes in socioeconomics out there 54 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: wherever the whatever, the newest poor racial group is, Harlem's 55 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: where they go. And Harlem was the Italian part of town. Now, 56 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: let me ask you something, and it's a question I 57 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: normally think I know the answer to. Maybe you disagree. 58 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: Are bad people and good people, But we're talking about 59 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: bad people at the moment. Are bad people born or 60 00:04:54,200 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: are they made? That whole nature versus nurture argument and 61 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: full disclosure. I am, for the most part, fully on 62 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: board with the made thing, and I'm only on board 63 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: with that because all the people I talk to you about, 64 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: especially the criminals, whenever we go cartails or drug lords 65 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: or stuff like that, as I read and as I 66 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: watch a documentary on them, and I read about them, 67 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: it is almost universal that they grow up with just 68 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: a different value system because of the environment around them. 69 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: I mean, I think about my own life and the 70 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: values I have. Granted I've basically blown all of those, 71 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: but I was still, you know, raised with values. You 72 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: know this is right and wrong. I've taught lessons, say 73 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: Mussin Moost, that you were taught don't lie, don't steal, 74 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: don't cheat. What if what if you were raised too cheat, 75 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: to gamble, to lie, to steal, to stab, to shoot. 76 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: And so many of these guys we talk about, they 77 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: weren't just you know, well they just they just born 78 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: that way. It came out shooting people. No, they were 79 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: born into world that you don't understand that I don't understand. 80 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: I wasn't raised in that world, but you see it 81 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: at an early age. Except for Carmine Galante. He is 82 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: of all the people I've read up on, all the 83 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: people I've watched a documentary on, it looks like he 84 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: was born bad. It looks like he was born with 85 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: pieces of him missing that other people normally have. Their 86 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: family was by no means wealthy, but they weren't even 87 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: you know, destin too. Sometimes you can make the argument 88 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: while they were so poor, he had to he had 89 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: to drop out of school. This is the case. Lots 90 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: of time. He had to drop out of school and 91 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: then ended up, you know, getting in with some gangsters 92 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: and it kind of went from there. Carmine Galante was 93 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: the gangster. You know. You always wonder, at least I do, 94 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: when you hear all those other stories about this guy. 95 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: He dropped out of school when he was when he 96 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: was sixteen, and he started running with the wrong crowd, 97 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: to which I always ask, you know, at least in 98 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: my mind, well who's the wrong crowd? Where did they 99 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: come from? Where the all? Right? Who tell me about 100 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: those guys? Carmine Galante was the wrong crowd. His parents 101 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: were not wealthy, but they had food. They still couldn't 102 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: keep a leash on their son. He was in reform school. 103 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: All his siblings were fine. By the way I should mention, 104 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: Carmine Galante was in reform school by the age of ten. 105 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: By the age of ten. My eleven year old last night, 106 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: at one point in time, walked up to his mother 107 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: and just kissed her on the cheek and spent the 108 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: rest of the evening sitting by himself in the office 109 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: drawing dinosaurs. He's the artsy type. That's an eleven year 110 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: old boy. That's a eleven year old boy. Spent some 111 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: time jumping on the trampoline, wrestled with me a little bit, 112 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: you know, an eleven year old boy. By the time 113 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: Carmine Galante was a year younger, he was in reform 114 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: school at the age of fifteen fifteen. What were you 115 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: doing at fifteen? When I was fifteen, I would run 116 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: around the neighborhood with my buddies, maybe cause a very 117 00:08:55,480 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: little bit of trouble, nothing major, go back to the house, 118 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: drink mountain dew, eat pizza, play Mario karts. A fifteen 119 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: year old. Maybe maybe dude, shoot some hoops. It's fifteen, 120 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: he's fifteen. Carmine Galante dropped out of school at the 121 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: age of fifteen and started his own street gang at 122 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: the age of fifteen. He didn't drop out and join one. 123 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: He dropped out and said I'm gonna start my own 124 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm the worst one around here. Oh did I mention? 125 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: At the age of fifteen, he beat the crap out 126 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: of an adult male and was not sent to juvenile 127 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: He was sent to prison for two and a half years. 128 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: Can you imagine a fifteen year old boy getting sent 129 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: to prison and what would happen to him there? Carmine 130 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: Galante did fine. Carmine Galante, at the age of fifteen, 131 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: walks into prison and says, this isn't bad. Actually, finally 132 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: I am home. These are my people. Eventually gets out 133 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: and well, he's a disaster, he's evil. Are we allowed 134 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: to say that about people, Chris, I mean anybody outside 135 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: of the Nazis. We don't usually use that word. But 136 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: he's fifteen, Okay, you just got out of prison. I 137 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: think he was seventeen and a half, maybe eighteen. It 138 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: gets worse from here, I'm not kidding. Hang on, Jesse Kelly, 139 00:10:53,640 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: you deserve him. Carmine Galante gets out of prison, I mean, 140 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: fifteen years old, walks into prison. When he gets out, 141 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna learn his lesson, right, Nah, he gets out. 142 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: He is a hijacker, he's a robber, he is a murderer. 143 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: He was sticking up a payroll. For those of you 144 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: unaware of what a payroll is, especially back in the day, 145 00:11:53,280 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: this is pre electronic money age. Employees were oftentimes aid 146 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 1: and cash. You went down to the bank, somebody from 147 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: your business went down to the bank, or the bank 148 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: sent a driver. Driver shows up in front of your 149 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: business with a boatload of cash, walks in, hands it 150 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: to you, You hand it out. You put vehicles like 151 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: that in front of Carmine Galante. He's gonna think these 152 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: are ones I can take. Why would I not take it? 153 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: He takes one cop tries to stop him. He shoots 154 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: the cop dead without hesitation, shoots a police officer dad. 155 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: Even most gangsters in America would not do such a thing. 156 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: That wasn't his first time, shoots him dead without hesitation. 157 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: They try to convict him of this. All the witnesses 158 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: had a change of heart and decided they weren't going 159 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: to testify against Carmine Galante. He doesn't stop. He's not 160 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: in the mafia yet. By the way, obviously the mafia 161 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: knows about him. Again, I cannot stress this enough. He's 162 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: not under the influence of others. He is the influence. 163 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: That's who he is. He continues to rob. He once 164 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: again gets in a confrontation with a police officer tries 165 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: to shoot this one too. Like I said, this is 166 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: not a man who hesitated the last time or felt 167 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: bad about it. He missed and hit a six year 168 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: old child. By the grace of God, the child did 169 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: not die, and by the grace of God, the cop 170 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: at least had the guts to testify against Carmine Gallante. 171 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: So at the age of I think it was twenty one, 172 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 1: he gets sent to twelve years in Sing Sing prison. 173 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: If you don't know about Sing Sing prison, just understand 174 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: I don't know the conditions of it these days, or 175 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: even if it's still around back then. Not where you 176 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: wanted to be ever seen show Shank Redemption. That's sing 177 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 1: Sing prison basically, Well, I guess I should clarify when 178 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: I say not where you want to be. It's not 179 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: where you want to be unless you're Carmine Galante. You see, 180 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: he got along just fine in there. At one point 181 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: in time, him and a couple other young and up 182 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: and coming Italians who would later on join the Gambino 183 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: family and in the Banano family, they try to kill 184 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: a guy. Other people jump in Carmine Galante gets stabbed 185 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: in the stomach and stabbed in the shoulder, goes to 186 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: the prison doctor. They stand in front of him and say, 187 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: tell us who stabbed you? Or you're going to get 188 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: three more years in prison. Carmine Galante, for all his faults, 189 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: was the gangster's gangster. Now I'm good, I'll take the 190 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: extra three years. Should be noted at this point in time, 191 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: they actually brought this guy in. He was so different. 192 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: They brought this guy in and they diagnosed him. They said, look, 193 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: we need to we need to sit this guy down 194 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: with the prison psychologist. There's something wrong, something's missing. Bring 195 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: him in, sit him down, and the prison psychologist says, 196 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: this guy is a psychopath. And that's not I'm not 197 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: trying to be me, and that's not me making up 198 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: a word. They actually said, this guy is a diagnosed psychopath. 199 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: He is missing parts of himself. He's also intelligent. He 200 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: speaks four languages by the time he's by the time 201 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: he's older. Now, remember what I said earlier when I 202 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: told you that story. I believe it was last week 203 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: about albert Anastasia, how prisons and jails have scouts for 204 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: the mafia, sing sing prison was no different. There were 205 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: a million mob associated guys already in there. There are 206 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: eyes all over the place. He looks around and they say, hey, 207 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: mob guys on the outside, this is somebody you're gonna 208 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: want to talk to, And sure enough he did. He 209 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: gets out of prison. Joe Binano, who was the massively 210 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: powerful head of the Banano crime family, takes him in 211 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: and Galante is Joe Banano's right hand man and a 212 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: good right hand man. He loved Joe Binano. He would 213 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: murder anybody who told him to murder. He loved murdering people, 214 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: really genuinely enjoyed it. And there was another extremely violent 215 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: gangster I'll tell you about another time, named Vito Genovese 216 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: or Vito Genovese, depending on who you're talking to. I 217 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: can't I can't ever figure it out. Everyone says in 218 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: a different way. Vito Navesi was a mob boss who 219 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 1: had to flee to Italy. This is World War two era, Okay, 220 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: had to flee to Italy because America was after him. 221 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: Do you remember how Benito Mussolini took power as a 222 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 1: fascist in Italy and then promptly started murdering all the 223 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: mafia guys over there. He murdered hundreds of thousands of them. Well, 224 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: Vito Genovesi decided, well, there's a way around this, and 225 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: he just got to be best friends with Benito, started 226 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: bribing him, became his friend. And there was an American 227 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 1: journalist in New York named Carlo Tresca. And Carlo Tresca 228 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: he didn't like Benito Mussolini, and he started printing some 229 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: really ugly things about Benito Mussolini. But I mean, why not, 230 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: what's the danger. He's an American. Benito's clear over there 231 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: in Italy. It's not my problem, right, Except there was 232 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: a problem. You see, Genovesi knew Carmine Galante really well 233 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: knew he would have no issue with this whatsoever. Ring 234 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: Ring makes a phone call, says, hey, that Carlo Tresca guy. Yeah, 235 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: Benito doesn't want him alive anymore. No problem. Click, Carlo 236 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: Tresca dead. You can still see the article to this day. Now. 237 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: Obviously a psychopath, an intelligent psychopath who speaks several languages. 238 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: This is the type of person who rises quickly in 239 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: the mafia world. And he did, and eventually they had 240 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: a gigantic meeting, a gigantic meeting in Sicily. You can 241 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: actually still see. I think the hotel they had it 242 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: in was still standing to this day. I'm talking Lucky Luciano. 243 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: Everybody was there, and the meeting in Sicily was about heroin. 244 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 1: You see, this old way of thinking that the mafia 245 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: had these rules about dealing drugs and you weren't allowed 246 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: to deal drugs, and we don't deal drugs here. That 247 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: wasn't really true. Now, some of them had rules, but 248 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: basically the rule was don't get caught dealing drugs, and 249 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: if they caught you, you'd get killed. But they kind 250 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: of knew you were gonna And look, let's be honest, 251 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: the money's absurd. If you're in any kind of crime, 252 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: especially the organized type, you can choose to make and 253 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: I'm making up these numbers. You can choose to make 254 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars a week gambling, five hundred dollars a 255 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:43,479 Speaker 1: week from running prostitutes, five hundred dollars a week from 256 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: hijacking trucks, and ignore the fact that you can make 257 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars a week running drugs. But if you 258 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: do ignore that fact, all of a sudden, the crew 259 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: across the street who does not ignore that fact is 260 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: going to have a lot more men, a lot more power, 261 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: and you're going to end up in a trunk with 262 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: a bullet in your head at some point in time. 263 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: It's a game of survival. You need money, you need power. 264 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: It was never believable, and it is never believable that 265 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: any organized crime group is going to ignore the money 266 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: that comes with drugs. And they have a big meeting 267 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: in Sicily and they work some things out. Hang on, 268 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: They're at this gigantic mafia meeting in Sicily. Now you 269 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: ask why Sicily understand something. I am not discounting the 270 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: power the American mafia once had. It's clearly fallen way off. 271 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: Yes it's still there, it's fallen way off. I'm not 272 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: discounting that power. But the American Mafia did gangster stuff 273 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: compared to the Sicilian mafia in the same way the 274 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: w NBA plays basketball compared to the NBA. That's what 275 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: they do in Sicily. That's what they did, That's what 276 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: they currently do. That's what they're gonna do. Do you 277 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: remember Brandon Darby are a great cartel guy who comes 278 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: on the show. He talks about the Mexican cartels all 279 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: the time, you remember what he told us, in case 280 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: you don't. The Mexican cartels, you know, those mega, mega 281 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: powerful cartels we like to look at with our jaw 282 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: hanging open. They make billions. They have all these, you know, 283 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: a hundred a thousand guys and the machine guns. These 284 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: guys must rule the world. They're the third most powerful 285 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: crime organization on the world, in the world, behind the 286 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: Russians and the Italians. Sicily is where it's done. It's 287 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: where all these guys came from. Sicily invented it, Sicily 288 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: still does it. Sicily is always gonna do it. That's 289 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: just a fact. So when they have this big meeting 290 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: in Sicily, it's the American gangsters and it's the Sicilians, 291 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: and they have to work out. Heroin, I have to 292 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: figure out a way to get it into the country, 293 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: a way to do it smartly. You know that movie. 294 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've heard of it, even though most of 295 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: you maybe haven't seen it by now, called The French Connection. 296 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: It's an old Gene Hackman movie. You've at least heard 297 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: of it. Mitchell, of you heard of it. I know 298 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: Chris is an idiot and he hasn't heard of it. 299 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: I know you've heard of it. The French Connection is 300 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: not the name of a movie. The French Connection is 301 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: the name of the drug route. Started in Turkey where 302 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: they were getting the opium, moved to Lebanon, moved to France, 303 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: Marseilles to be specific. In France. Remember when I have 304 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: told you about the docks in any town, any place, 305 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: a big port city is big crime always one hundred 306 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: percent of the time. We went to Marseilles and then 307 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: to America. They were figuring out a way to get 308 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: heroin into America. And that route I just told you 309 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: about is called the French Connection. It's actually what the 310 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: movie is about. Again, they named the movie after the 311 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: drug route, not the drug route. After the movie. Well, 312 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: we get back to the States, Carmin and Gallante and 313 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: always gangs their friends, and Carmine brings some Sicilians with him. Now, 314 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: this is kind of a racist, derogatory name, so don't 315 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: go calling your Sicilian buddy this unless he has a 316 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: good sense of humor. But they were called zips. They 317 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: called them zips. It was not in any way uncommon 318 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: for American mafia guys to bring zips from Sicily as 319 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: muscle as assassins. Carmine Galante viewed them as being extra loyal. 320 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: We'll get back to that here in a couple of minutes. 321 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: They were killers. They also lacked compunction because of their 322 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: culture where they came from. They would kill anyone, cops, women, children, anybody. 323 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: An American mafia guy would not in general, unless there 324 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: Carmine Galante kill a cop, almost never would kill a 325 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: woman or a child. That's just not what they did. Zips, 326 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: no problem, where are you killing them? That famous gangster 327 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: we've ever actually never done one on him before, Carlos 328 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: Marcello from New Orleans. I called him Marcello last time 329 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: because I've heard him called that before and a bunch 330 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: of my New Orleans but he's screamed at me that 331 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: it's Marcello, so I don't want to upset the New 332 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,959 Speaker 1: Orleans people. Marcello he used to do something really terrible. 333 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 1: He would get orphans from Sicily. He would if he 334 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: wanted somebody killed, he would bring orphans from Sicily in, 335 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: send them out, murder them and have the orphans go meet, 336 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: you know, their American contact after they committed the murder, 337 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: and then he'd murder the orphans. And he brought in 338 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: orphans from another country because they were completely untraceable. He 339 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: thought no one cared about them anyway, which he was 340 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: kind of right, and no one would realize they're gone. 341 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: So you now you have a murder committed by somebody 342 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: who no one cared about to begin with and now 343 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: doesn't exist anymore. Yeah, like I said, not great people 344 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: bringing me back to Marcello or to a Galante Montreal, Toronto, Canada. 345 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: We'd like to view our ends to the north as 346 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: being just a polite country of snow and maple syrup. 347 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: But you need to understand the largest concentration, especially back 348 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: in the day. I don't know if this is still 349 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: the case, but the largest concentration of Italians outside of 350 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: Italy was not New York City, it wasn't Chicago. It 351 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: was Canada. There was something there. I don't know all 352 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: the reasons behind it. And Canada was big time, big 353 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: time in the mafia world. Joe Banano has this great 354 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: now underboss Carmine Galante wants to run the heroine in 355 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: from Canada. Sends Galante up to Canada. Unsurprisingly, Galante gets 356 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: the Canadian drug business going, gets it going really quickly. 357 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: It is a little too violent, even for the gangsters 358 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 1: up there. If you showed up with a shipment, late 359 00:26:55,720 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: Galante would just shoot you the guy. I cannot stress 360 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: this enough. If you read enough about him, he terrified 361 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: other gangsters. Everybody was scared to death of him. He 362 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: murdered so many people in Canada. Finally, the Canadian authorities, 363 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: after not being able to pin anything on him, unsurprisingly, 364 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: just flat out kicked him out. They're like, please just 365 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: go back to America. I go. He gets back to America, 366 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: and now the worst happens for him. He had been 367 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: running all this heroin and was going fine, and there 368 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: was a gigantic drug agency then. It's kind of what 369 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: you know the DA to be today, but it was 370 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: something different back then, and they were good, and we 371 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: had mandatory minimum sentencing for drugs. And he gets back 372 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: to the United States of America boom busted. He's facing 373 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 1: a twenty year prison sentence and wouldn't you know it, Chris, 374 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: the first trial ends up being a mistrial because the 375 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: jury foreman has a long fall in an abandoned building 376 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: and breaks his back. Nobody ever found out why. Hey, 377 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: it happens to the best of us, right whoops, stumbled 378 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: into this abandoned building and fell down an elevator shaft. 379 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 1: He does, however, have another trial, and he's convicted to 380 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: twenty years in prison, twenty years mandatory minimum. And I 381 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: believe he was fifty seventy. I know he was in 382 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: his fifties when he went. He goes to prison. While 383 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: he's in prison, the Gambino crime family, remember Galante was 384 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: in the Banano crime family. The five families kind of 385 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: work together, sometimes kind of murder each other sometimes. In general, 386 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: the thinking is they're supposed to be under the same commission, 387 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: and they're all supposed to work together. Obviously, does not 388 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: always work out that way. While he's in prison, the 389 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: Gambino crime family, which is long known to be the 390 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: biggest and most powerful of the five mafia families, takes 391 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: over the Heroine rackets in New York City. Carmine sets 392 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: in prison, Carmine starts stewing, Carmine is angry. Finally, after 393 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: twelve years, because of a technicality, he gets parole. Not 394 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: twenty twelve. Carmine gets out, and the Gambino crime family 395 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: has taken over Heroin in New York City, and they're 396 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: running Heroine out of the various pizza shops. The Gambino 397 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: family also ruled. Isn't this kind of funny all the 398 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: pizza in New York City? They controlled all the supply lines, 399 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: the sauces, the cheeses, everything else, and they ran all 400 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: the pizza shops. Well, remember we're dealing with Carmine Galante here, 401 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: and he doesn't want to hear about the most powerful 402 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: family in New York. And he also doesn't want to 403 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: hear that there's a new interim boss of the Banano family. 404 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: He essentially walks out of prison and says, Oh, I'm 405 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: the boss. Anyone have any issues with this? Of course, 406 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: he murders a few people, but yes, I'm the boss. 407 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: Now I'm running the Banano family. And then these Gambino 408 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: pizza parlors start to go up in flames, quite literally, 409 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: and the Gambinos get mad about it, and Carmine Galante says, whoa, 410 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: Oh you're mad. Well, I've got a solution for that too. 411 00:30:39,360 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: The Jesse Kelly Show. The Gambinos are clearly not pleased 412 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: with the fact that Carmine Galante is burning down their 413 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: pizza parlors, blatantly taking them over and running Heroin out 414 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: of them. They didn't discover this until years later when 415 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: somebody was caught with an apron with a bunch of 416 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: bundles of cash in at heading back to Italy. So 417 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: Blotte just starts murdering members of the Gambino family. Remember 418 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: born bad. Even other gangsters didn't act like this. Murdered 419 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: his own family, murdered members of the Gambino family, just bad. 420 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: You ever heard of Frank Costello As a quick side 421 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: note before we come to the end of our story, 422 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: Frank Costello was the gentleman's gangster. They called him the 423 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: Prime Minister. Remember how I said there are degrees, there 424 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: are levels of things. Frank Costello was. I mean, he 425 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: didn't really believe in violence, very much believed in bribery. 426 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: He was a bad guy. He even said, by his 427 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: own admission, he said, look when I died, don't tell 428 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: people I sold bibles for a living. He was a gangster, 429 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: a bad guy. But again, Frank Costello would do everything 430 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: possible to avoid harming you. Carmine Gallante hated Frank Costello 431 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: and when he got out of prison, Frank Costello had 432 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: by then passed away, and Costello was widely respected in 433 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: the crime community. And in the legitimate community, politicians, businessmen. 434 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: They all showed up at his funeral, widely loved, widely respected, 435 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: and they built him one of those big ever seen 436 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: one of those big. They're big in the South, Chris 437 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: one of those big. Basically, I'm sure there's a word 438 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: for him that's escaping me right now. Like, it's not 439 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: a tombstone, dude, It's like a above ground tomb with 440 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: doors on it and stuff like you walk in. It's 441 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: like a like, I don't know even know what you'd 442 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: call it. A crypt, Yes, a crypt. Costello had one 443 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: of those. Carmine Galante threw a bomb in his I'm 444 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: not even making that up. The man was dead, threw 445 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: a bomb in it and blew the doors off of it. 446 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: A bad human being. Now there's a shelf life on that. 447 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: Even though you're the scariest guy in the world, there 448 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: is a shelf life on that. Galante. He's actually on 449 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: camera saying, nobody's ever gonna kill me. They wouldn't dare, 450 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: They would dare. Carmine Galante goes to Joe and Mary's 451 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: Diner on July twelfth, nineteen seventy nine. Joe and Mary's 452 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: Diner is. If you've never been in New York City, 453 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: you wouldn't understand. But just try to picture this, and 454 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: you people who've been to New York City will know 455 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: exactly what I'm talking about. There. It's just the coolest city. 456 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,919 Speaker 1: I highly recommend you go. As soon as people stop 457 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: dying there. I highly recommend you go. It has all 458 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: these little diners and little shops. The last time I 459 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: was there, I had to walk a couple blocks for 460 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: a media gig I was doing, and so I started 461 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: looking around for restaurants. In one of the highest rated 462 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: little diners, there was this little breakfast place. And you 463 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: can't picture it. You know, when you're looking on your 464 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: phone at a map. You know, Oh cool, I'll stop 465 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: biograph some eggs. It's my thing. I go and I 466 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: do a double take at the diner, and I don't 467 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,479 Speaker 1: even know why. It surprises me anymore. And I am 468 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: not exaggerating. I am not exaggerating. Ten feet wide, the 469 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: storefront ten feet wide. You look into this diner, there 470 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: is a counter going down the middle of it. On 471 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: the right side of the counter is the flat top 472 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,720 Speaker 1: and where two or three people were actually making the food. 473 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 1: On the left side are stools that are nailed into 474 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: the ground, screwed into the ground on the countertop where 475 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: people were eating. Behind those people is maybe maybe two 476 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: and a half feet of space to walk by them 477 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: to get to the back. And there's nothing in the 478 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: back either. There was I think it was one extra 479 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: table sitting back there, and people would just crowd around, 480 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: and you just learn to crowd around. New York City 481 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: is old and it is tiny, and people just get 482 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: used to it. The spaces are tiny, spaces are at 483 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: a premium there. They cost a fortune. This highly rated 484 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: little breakfast joint, and it was packed and there were 485 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: people waiting for it to go. Food down the block, packed, 486 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 1: just a tiny little thing. If you sneezed in there, 487 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: you'd give yourself a concussions. This small New York is 488 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 1: small even I've been there a couple of times now. 489 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: Granted I've been there plenty of times when I didn't 490 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: have any money, but I've been there a couple of 491 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 1: times now when someone else was paying, and they'll put 492 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: you up in some fancy hotel room and fancy hotel room. 493 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: I'm doing the air fingers quotes thing. Last time I went, Chris, 494 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 1: I never told you the story. They booked me. It 495 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: was a separate company. I'm not going to go into it. 496 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: They booked me a five hundred dollars a night hotel room. 497 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: I was only there for one night, and I told 498 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: him I'm like, I don't need I mean, this is 499 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: this is me. Everybody knows I'm fine in the Super eight. 500 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: But they're like, we want to treat you, right, it's 501 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: just one night, or they're doing that steak dinner thing. 502 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 1: It was the smallest room you've ever seen in your 503 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: entire life. I walked in and it's just that's New York. 504 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: New York is small, and I'm not bagging on the hotel. 505 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: It was fine. It was great, but everything is small 506 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: and you have to learn to accept that when you 507 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: get there. Which brings us to Joe and Mary's Diner. 508 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: July twelfth, nineteen seventy nine. Crap, hang, honestly, we need 509 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: to get to the perennium sunning, Chris. I need you 510 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: to do me a favor and actually look up the 511 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 1: dictionary definition and print out for me the dictionary definition 512 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: of what of perennium? Please do that on the company computer, please, 513 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: I just look. It's all about efficiency here now. Carmine 514 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 1: Galante July twelfth, nineteen seventy nine, walks into Joe and 515 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: Mary Steiner. Why did he walk in there? His cousin 516 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: owned the place. His cousin was getting ready to go 517 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 1: on vacation in Italy. And Carmine Galante loved Joe and 518 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: Mary's diner. He went there a lot. If a lot 519 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 1: of people want to kill you, let me just give 520 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: you a piece of advice. Don't go anywhere a lot. Now. 521 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:49,959 Speaker 1: I should note remember those extremely loyal zip bodyguards he had. 522 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: He had them with him, kept them with him at 523 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 1: all times. They killed a lot of people for him. 524 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: They were known to be frightening. One of them was, 525 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: I guess six seven and blonde the common thing people 526 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 1: don't realize as a lot of Sicilians are not, you know, 527 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: dark haired like like like you picture. There are a 528 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: lot of blonde hair, blue eyed ones. They head out back. 529 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: There's a little patio area where a couple of tables 530 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: are set up and they have a nice lunch with 531 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: some wine. Hang on the Jesse Kelly show. This is 532 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: a Jesse Kelly show. Carmine Galante goes out back of 533 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 1: Joe and Mary's diner has a lovely lunch. By all accounts, 534 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: a couple table tables set up in the back. Again, 535 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: this is another one of those very narrow restaurants, like 536 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: my breakfast bound I told you about little patio area 537 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: area in New York City. Especially if you're a restaurant, 538 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: you have to maximize every single inch of space because 539 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 1: it is all precious out back. Finishes his meal. Now, 540 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:28,280 Speaker 1: Carmine his nickname was the Cigar because he apparently always 541 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 1: had one in his mouth, finishes his meal, fires up 542 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 1: a stogie, chilling out. The two bodyguards are there. Three 543 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: masked men burst through the door of the restaurant was 544 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: shotguns and pistols and kill everyone except for the bodyguards. 545 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 1: Mind you, they walked out unscathed, didn't fire a shot. 546 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: One of them later on ended up getting a nice promotion. 547 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: I wonder how that happened. You can now google Carmine 548 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 1: Galante and you will see his death. You see, they 549 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: didn't allow reporters in there, but one enterprising soul crawled 550 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 1: on the rooftop of the building next door and snapped 551 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: pictures of Carmine Galante. They ran in the papers. You'll 552 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: see him. Their bloody there's a drain beside him, and 553 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,720 Speaker 1: his blood is draining down. It's kind of cool looking. 554 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: He has a left eye that is no longer there. 555 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,359 Speaker 1: I'm almost positive, although I don't know this for a fact, 556 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 1: I'm almost positive that was done after death. That was 557 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: not in any way uncommon for them to shoot one 558 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: of your eyes. You remember that guy Albert Anastasia had killed. 559 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,720 Speaker 1: They shot out both of his eyes, his left eyes missing, 560 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: cigar still firmly planted in his mouth. There is some 561 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 1: argument about the cigar, though some say. Joe Coffee is 562 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: a New York police detective who was there. He swears 563 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 1: he never touched the cigar. The guy clinched down on 564 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: the cigar as he was getting shot to pieces, and 565 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:29,839 Speaker 1: that's why it was still in his mouth. Others say 566 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: the cops planted it there. Either way, I choose to 567 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,399 Speaker 1: believe in the cooler sounding thing, and that's that him. 568 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:45,399 Speaker 1: He died with a cigar in his mouth. That man 569 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: was born bad, and it wouldn't matter how many times 570 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: you sent him to prison, how many times you beat him, 571 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 1: shot at him, stabbed him. That guy's going to do 572 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:05,959 Speaker 1: bad things. We don't like to have this conversation. Ever, 573 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 1: and there are a couple different reasons behind it. We 574 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 1: don't like to have the conversation about the guy's just bad. 575 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: We don't like to have it because we don't want 576 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 1: that standard applied to us, do we. I mean, the 577 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 1: other guy's bad. You just made a mistake. Now you're 578 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 1: the same thing, right, Oh man, that dude, that's a 579 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 1: bad guy. Jesse, you did something terrible yesterday. Oh I 580 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: screwed up. Everyone does it. We don't like that that 581 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:46,840 Speaker 1: same standard applied to us. Human nature, that's one two. 582 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 1: The Christian and all of us except for Chris. The 583 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: Christian and all of us likes to believe in redemption. 584 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 1: And I'm kidding about that just being a Christian thing. 585 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 1: That's a human thing, right. Nobody likes a good redemption story. 586 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 1: Rags to riches, started out bad, turned around good. But 587 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 1: you know, if you talk to a cop, and they'll 588 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 1: never say this publicly, and they'll never say it on camera, 589 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 1: but I'm friends with a lot of cops, probably not 590 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 1: the most surprising thing to you. They'll tell you people 591 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: don't change. For the most part, people don't change. And 592 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 1: a cop, as much as I disagree with this, and 593 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: even though they really disagree with it. They will tell 594 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:42,319 Speaker 1: you I could clean up society a lot if you 595 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 1: let me lock away teenagers for the rest of their lives. 596 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: And it's again not a conversation you can ever have 597 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: with them publicly. But I obviously mortify the first time 598 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 1: I ever have this talk, I'm like, what are you 599 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 1: talking about? Man? He's like, dude, I've been a cop 600 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: for twenty years. Every one of these little hoodlums I 601 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: bust at fifteen sixteen, I'm busting the guy for murder 602 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,800 Speaker 1: or arm robbery. By the time he's twenty two or 603 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 1: twenty three, every single one of them, they don't go away. 604 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 1: Cops know who all the criminals are. Do you know 605 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,319 Speaker 1: why cops know who all the criminals are? Because they've 606 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,839 Speaker 1: always been criminals, because the cops have known them since 607 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 1: they were children. And we don't like thinking about that. 608 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,760 Speaker 1: I don't like thinking about that. I love the stories 609 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 1: of someone turning their life around. But there's this thing 610 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 1: happening right now in the country. And I understand that 611 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 1: this is a big leftist thing because part of being 612 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 1: a leftist, I don't actually, for the first time ever, 613 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,840 Speaker 1: I don't mean this to be insulting but it's true. 614 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 1: Part of being a leftist means trying to make the 615 00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,799 Speaker 1: world as you want it to be instead of how 616 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 1: it is. Part of being a leftist is living in 617 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 1: a world of make believe. It just is. You live 618 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: in a world that is not real. You want it 619 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 1: to be real, And my goodness, half the time you 620 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 1: bring up you talk to a leftist on what they want. 621 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,400 Speaker 1: I want that world to be real, but it's not 622 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 1: real and it can never be real. And people were 623 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:27,280 Speaker 1: turning prisoners loose all over the country, all over the country, 624 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: especially in these big leftist cities. They are throwing open 625 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,399 Speaker 1: the doors to the jails. There's a headline right here. 626 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,800 Speaker 1: This is from my friend Peter Hassan of the Daily Caller. 627 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 1: Headline is thirty seven minutes later inmates release from jail 628 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 1: due to coronavirus fears, keep getting arrested again. Apparently he 629 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 1: walked out of court on zero bail and carjacked somebody 630 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 1: thirty seven minutes after he walked out the front door 631 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,320 Speaker 1: of the courthouse. These this is one of a million 632 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 1: of these stories that have been printed in the past 633 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 1: month or so as these leftists have thrown open the 634 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 1: doors of the jails and said, well, we can't keep 635 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 1: them in here. It's dangerous to them. Los Angeles sheriff 636 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 1: has seen an upticking crime immediately and said, oh, it's 637 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 1: probably because we open the jails. That's not good. You 638 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 1: like to imagine in your mind that that guy has 639 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 1: learned his lesson. That guy's in jail, he's got a 640 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,879 Speaker 1: new lease on life. I'm sure. Look, he's only in 641 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 1: jail because the cops are bad. He's only in jail 642 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 1: because he made one mistake. I'm sure he doesn't want 643 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 1: to go back to his life a crime. These are 644 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 1: all things you want to believe, but sometimes no matter 645 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: how it began, nature or nurture. You remember our Carmine 646 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 1: Galante talk, that's who you are. You are who you 647 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: are at some point, and that doesn't mean you can't 648 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,240 Speaker 1: be redeemed. It doesn't mean you can't turn it around, 649 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 1: but it does mean you have to acknowledge the reality 650 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 1: that they probably won't. We are in the middle of 651 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: a pandemic. Over forty thousand people are dead. On a 652 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 1: much worse note, we're in the middle of a gigantic 653 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:37,719 Speaker 1: economic contraction. Thirty million unemployed, and that's a drop in 654 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 1: the bucket compared to what we're about to face totally economically. 655 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 1: You cannot, then, because of your idiotic leftist sensibilities, throw 656 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 1: open the doors of the jails and let every brand 657 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 1: new Carmine Galante run free on society. I understand this 658 00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 1: is difficult for you to hear leftists. I do, but 659 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 1: sometimes sometimes you gotta leave him in there forever. The 660 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:24,280 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show on air and online at Jesse Kelly 661 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:53,800 Speaker 1: Show dot com. Chris, it's time to talk about perennium. Sunny. 662 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,800 Speaker 1: Don't don't get mad at me. I didn't write the headline. 663 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 1: What is your problem? I didn't, right, It's from the 664 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:06,319 Speaker 1: New York Post, dude, It's from a reputable publication. It's Friday, man. 665 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,439 Speaker 1: We need to address weekend plans, all right. I wasn't 666 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,279 Speaker 1: sure what I'm gonna do this weekend, and now I know. 667 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:18,040 Speaker 1: Now you may be confused as I was, about what 668 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:24,359 Speaker 1: exactly a perennium is. I had Chris look this up 669 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,760 Speaker 1: for me on the company computer. I had him printed 670 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 1: out for me on the company printer, had him leave 671 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 1: it there for five to ten minutes, just in case 672 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,840 Speaker 1: someone would look. And now I have the definition in 673 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,920 Speaker 1: front of me and have to be honest, I'm not 674 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:48,239 Speaker 1: reading this on here. This is still as much fun 675 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 1: as we have. This is a family show, and I 676 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 1: can't I can't read this on there. Let me just 677 00:50:53,320 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 1: explain that you have a perennium. Perennium is gosh, let's see, 678 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 1: what's the best way to put this, Chris, um perennium. 679 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:16,839 Speaker 1: Perennium is that area between between where you go number 680 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:25,960 Speaker 1: one and number two? Is that what? Chris? Was that bad? Okay? Yes, 681 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 1: I could have put that a little better, but I 682 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,959 Speaker 1: wasn't sure of us on the spot. I don't think 683 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,719 Speaker 1: this out. That's what it is. I didn't write the article, man, 684 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,759 Speaker 1: and I didn't know what it was. We gotta talk 685 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 1: it out, all right. Now to the headline. The headline 686 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:49,320 Speaker 1: is perennium sunning. Perennium sonning is the latest insanity, wellness 687 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 1: and influencers swear by. What is an influencer? What is 688 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 1: this big thing today? All right? Whatever? Are we am? 689 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 1: I an influencer? Chris? I think we all know I 690 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 1: must be. They're soaking up some rays where the sun 691 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,600 Speaker 1: don't shine. This is from Hannah Frishburg of the New 692 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 1: York post. The hottest trend gripping wellness die hards is 693 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:20,800 Speaker 1: tanning their cans, or perennium sunning, as the influencers call it. 694 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,760 Speaker 1: In a mere thirty seconds of sunlight on your buttole, 695 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:28,040 Speaker 1: you will receive more energy from this electric node than 696 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 1: you would in an entire day of being outside with 697 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:36,279 Speaker 1: your clothes on, says an influencer who goes by raw 698 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 1: r A raw goes by raw of earth. Of course, 699 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,960 Speaker 1: that's what he or she goes by. In a viral 700 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,239 Speaker 1: video that is racked Oh it's a heat. In a 701 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,879 Speaker 1: viral video that is racked up more than thirty five 702 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:55,960 Speaker 1: thousand views. He gestures towards the sun as three naked 703 00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:04,439 Speaker 1: men lie down, pointing their backsides to the sky. All Right, 704 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,479 Speaker 1: I can't, I can't do this anymore. Let me just say, 705 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:12,799 Speaker 1: although it appears to be safe for work, since I 706 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,320 Speaker 1: had Chris pronounce the article as well, there's a picture 707 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,319 Speaker 1: in case you were wondering how to do this. It 708 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 1: appears that you simply lie back, You raise your feet 709 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,280 Speaker 1: in the air and grab your toes, and you aim 710 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 1: the old starfish towards the sun. We we're bored as 711 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,920 Speaker 1: a society aren't we. I mean, that's really what that is. 712 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:45,319 Speaker 1: What that is every time I see something like this, 713 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,799 Speaker 1: you know what it tells me, Chris, It tells me 714 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 1: we have too much time on our hands. That's all 715 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,239 Speaker 1: that is. And you know what you haven't seen. It's 716 00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,919 Speaker 1: actually kind of funny. Not that there's anything funny about 717 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,319 Speaker 1: the pandemic or the economic devastation or anything else, but 718 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,239 Speaker 1: you realize how little you've seen the new I'm the 719 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 1: new sizz transformative thing that you know, how little you've 720 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 1: actually seen that. I mean, there's been some always, because 721 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,319 Speaker 1: there are always psychopaths out there, but you haven't seen 722 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,840 Speaker 1: much of that, have You call me by my preferred pronouns, 723 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,520 Speaker 1: Because all that stuff starts to go away when you're 724 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:29,240 Speaker 1: standing in line at a food bank, when people are dying. 725 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,280 Speaker 1: And I'm thrilled about that because it proves the point 726 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:37,720 Speaker 1: I've always made. Not that I wanted this to change, 727 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,359 Speaker 1: not that I want anybody to suffer, and I dang 728 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,799 Speaker 1: sure don't want anybody to die or lose a loved one, 729 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,239 Speaker 1: but the point I've always always made. As soon as 730 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:51,359 Speaker 1: I saw headlines like this, Perennium Sonning call me by 731 00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 1: his her or she all this, all this insane stuff. 732 00:54:55,200 --> 00:55:01,960 Speaker 1: I always have said, we're too rich, We're too rich, 733 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,880 Speaker 1: we're too comfortable. And that sounds weird to say, because 734 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 1: I'm the guy who doesn't begrudge people a buddy. You 735 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:14,359 Speaker 1: know that there's an old saying, resent money, you'll never 736 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 1: make it. Resent success, you'll never achieve it. And it 737 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 1: is one hundred percent true, one hundred percent true. You 738 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 1: see this all the time. And let's be honest, in 739 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 1: my business, you see this all the time in radio 740 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 1: and TV. I do both of these people will these 741 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,799 Speaker 1: successful people I mean yeah, even once who view view 742 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,480 Speaker 1: things relatively similarly. You know, people on the right, well, 743 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,239 Speaker 1: yell at other people on the right hate that guy. 744 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:43,560 Speaker 1: You hear this, You hear this all the time. When 745 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 1: it comes to Hannity. Hannity is a great example. People 746 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,040 Speaker 1: on the right love to say this, love to say this. 747 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 1: Hannity's such a stupid hack. Oh Hannity's such an idiot. 748 00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 1: Hannity's doing this new segment. And look, I don't know 749 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,719 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity. I'm not I'm not his friend. I'm not 750 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,080 Speaker 1: here taking up for my buddy. I met him one time. 751 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,480 Speaker 1: Is very nice, This has nothing to do with him personally. 752 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 1: But you know what, Basically all of that translates to Chris. 753 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,399 Speaker 1: I would cut off my left leg to have even 754 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 1: one of Sean Hannity's paychecks, and I'm bitter that he 755 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:24,440 Speaker 1: has it, and I don't. Maybe you're a Hannity fan, 756 00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,040 Speaker 1: maybe you're not. I don't care. Like I said, it's 757 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:31,840 Speaker 1: not about him. Sean Hannity makes over twenty million dollars 758 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:38,160 Speaker 1: a year. Sean Hannity makes over twenty million dollars a year. 759 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 1: Oh and did I mention he has for a while? 760 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,719 Speaker 1: Do you have any idea what Sean Hannity's net worth 761 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 1: probably is. I don't. I don't care. It's not my business, 762 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:54,239 Speaker 1: Sean han Sean Hannity flies a private jet when Sean 763 00:56:54,320 --> 00:57:00,319 Speaker 1: Hannity goes somewhere. Now you can yell and scream this 764 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 1: sell out that Sean Hannity could never write an article 765 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,839 Speaker 1: as smart as the article I wrote, like you could. 766 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,360 Speaker 1: You could do all these things. That's that's fine. Well whatever, 767 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:20,440 Speaker 1: it's jealousy, bro, and everyone knows it's jealousy. Stop stop stop. 768 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,240 Speaker 1: You see the CNN guys, they make a living doing 769 00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,080 Speaker 1: this yelling at the Fox news guy. It's embarrassing, like 770 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:30,320 Speaker 1: someone with a show on CNN, someone with an actual 771 00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 1: television show, like a professional. We'll get on Twitter and 772 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:39,960 Speaker 1: start blasting away at somebody. Just Greg Gutfield. You're such 773 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,960 Speaker 1: a stupid idiot. Dude, you look like a child. What 774 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,080 Speaker 1: are you doing? Shout out? Stop doing this? So again, 775 00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 1: I digress. Let me go back to this. I'm not 776 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:56,000 Speaker 1: the guy who begrudges anybody any money. I'm not. You 777 00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,400 Speaker 1: make what you make, You make everything you can get 778 00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 1: out there. I get it. Would Come on, dude, come on, 779 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 1: let's let's grow up a little bit here. Let's let's 780 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:14,640 Speaker 1: let's realize that at some point you can be too 781 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,960 Speaker 1: rich and too bored and you end up miserable. It's 782 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,800 Speaker 1: like I've always said, Chris, you end up bored and miserable. 783 00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:24,240 Speaker 1: And if I could give you any of you, if 784 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,400 Speaker 1: I could give you everything you ever wanted with the 785 00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 1: snap of my fingers, I'm a genie in a bottle 786 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 1: and you could have it all. I want to yacht 787 00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:33,200 Speaker 1: in a private island. I want to eat grapes with 788 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,240 Speaker 1: the Swedish bikini team. I want to and I could 789 00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:40,760 Speaker 1: give you everything you ever thought you wanted. In a week, 790 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:45,920 Speaker 1: you'd be bored. Maybe two weeks, snap my fingers give 791 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:51,480 Speaker 1: you at all, You'd be like why, Because part of 792 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:57,040 Speaker 1: how we are created is for the struggle. We are 793 00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 1: created for the struggle. Every now and then I make 794 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:41,280 Speaker 1: poor decisions. I know everybody's gonna find that shocking, because 795 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,160 Speaker 1: everyone's like, Jesse, you're basically, you know, the wisest person ever. 796 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,200 Speaker 1: I get that. And one of the worst decisions I 797 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:51,320 Speaker 1: ever made was getting to know our next guest. Terry 798 00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,800 Speaker 1: Shapherd is his name. He is a retired Green Beret 799 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:59,760 Speaker 1: Master Sergeant and host of Hollywood Weapons on the Outdoor Channel, 800 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,360 Speaker 1: which is sweet. By the way, if you ever want 801 01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,960 Speaker 1: a really cool show, highly highly recommend it. And as 802 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,360 Speaker 1: much as this pains me to say, the dude is 803 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,439 Speaker 1: actually a legend with all the other Green Berets I've 804 01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,880 Speaker 1: gotten to know within the same community. Do you remember 805 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,960 Speaker 1: how we talked about Carmine Galante and they're being levels 806 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:23,880 Speaker 1: of everything. Yeah, Terry Shepherd's a different level. Terry, exactly 807 01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,520 Speaker 1: how much did you have to bribe all these other 808 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:31,479 Speaker 1: Green Berets to talk that nicely about you? That's that's funny, Jesse. 809 01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,640 Speaker 1: You know, I was just thinking while I was listening 810 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:37,640 Speaker 1: to you compliment me with a backhand, because all these 811 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,080 Speaker 1: guys that you're talking about, we were all kind of 812 01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,440 Speaker 1: talking like, how did Jesse Kelly get a national show? 813 01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,360 Speaker 1: We just we can't. I mean, God, bless you, bless 814 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,800 Speaker 1: your heart, Jeff, I call you Jess, but we still 815 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:52,680 Speaker 1: can't figure it out. And by the way, I'm not 816 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,560 Speaker 1: a legend in any community. I you know, I had 817 01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,680 Speaker 1: a good run, and I try to with the stuff 818 01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:00,880 Speaker 1: I do, like TV or whatever. I try to represent 819 01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,640 Speaker 1: the regiment well. And you know, I'm not a chess 820 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,880 Speaker 1: stumper because I don't have a chest really the stump. 821 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's the best I think some of the 822 01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:09,960 Speaker 1: funniest things we see in and you're you're You've been 823 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,240 Speaker 1: great on Twitter and all of us. We actually had 824 01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,200 Speaker 1: a meeting two nights ago, a bunch of us on Zoom, 825 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:20,040 Speaker 1: a bunch of vets, and we all just basically, you know, 826 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,800 Speaker 1: shot shot the bull for about two hours. It was awesome, 827 01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:24,680 Speaker 1: but we still don't know why. But we still don't 828 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,640 Speaker 1: know why you have a national show. That's the question. Look. 829 01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,320 Speaker 1: The good news is I don't either now, so I 830 01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:34,960 Speaker 1: don't so I don't butcher it. Why don't you describe 831 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:39,080 Speaker 1: exactly the concept behind Hollywood Weapons, because I actually watched 832 01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,240 Speaker 1: this with my boys and one. I mean, obviously Terry's 833 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,280 Speaker 1: it's certainly not the best part of the show, but 834 01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,880 Speaker 1: it is nice to have a cool show you can 835 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,000 Speaker 1: watch with your kids now, because there ain't much of 836 01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,680 Speaker 1: that out there. I don't have to learn about transsexual 837 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:57,160 Speaker 1: Nazi eskimos when I watch Hollywood Weapons. So describe it. Well, 838 01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's funny. I'm glad when you say that, 839 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,800 Speaker 1: because that's something that came out once we started doing 840 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,240 Speaker 1: the show. I had a lot of people writing me 841 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,200 Speaker 1: saying I get to watch this with my son, my family, 842 01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,240 Speaker 1: and we're happy about that. So the show. I've done 843 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,400 Speaker 1: some stuff for Outdoor Channel the past, and initially they 844 01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,640 Speaker 1: wanted to do a test the guns in Hollywood, and 845 01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,840 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's kind of been done. You know, 846 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,640 Speaker 1: I am a I am a actor and an idiot, 847 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,160 Speaker 1: so let me play the parts of these people and 848 01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:23,960 Speaker 1: you know, and then we'll have some fun with it. 849 01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,560 Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's I'm like the eighteen year 850 01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 1: old teenager kicking the shins of my co host Larry Zanoff, 851 01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:31,800 Speaker 1: who's a really really great guy. I mean, he knows 852 01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,280 Speaker 1: everything about guns and he's a big armor out in 853 01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,800 Speaker 1: LA for all the movie and TV business. And yeah, 854 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 1: so we do, we test stuff and my question as 855 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,480 Speaker 1: always is can you really do that? And so we'll 856 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:45,040 Speaker 1: we'll take scenes and a lot of it is all 857 01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,880 Speaker 1: viewer driven. People write in and say hey, and also 858 01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:49,880 Speaker 1: some of them won't like seeing me blow myself up, 859 01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:51,960 Speaker 1: which I don't think is cool. It's something you would request, 860 01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,200 Speaker 1: but people request things and they're like, hey, give us 861 01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,400 Speaker 1: a tribe. We've had, We've had great guests. Come on, man, 862 01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,840 Speaker 1: We've had Tom Selleck, who's as great that you could get, 863 01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:05,240 Speaker 1: you know, Gary Sinise, Bill Duke from Predator, Nick Cercy, 864 01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,320 Speaker 1: who I think you know pretty well from Justified, and 865 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:09,920 Speaker 1: it's it's just a lot of fun. If you if 866 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,680 Speaker 1: you like two guys cutting on each other like we do, 867 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:14,600 Speaker 1: you'll like the show. If you like if you're a 868 01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:16,640 Speaker 1: movie and TV nerd, you like the show. If you're 869 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,440 Speaker 1: a gun guy, you'll like it. So there's enough in 870 01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,880 Speaker 1: there for everybody. Everybody. Let me ask you something because 871 01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:24,760 Speaker 1: obviously we have a bunch of vets that listen to 872 01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,600 Speaker 1: this show, and I was just a dumb grunt marine. 873 01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,920 Speaker 1: And for the people who aren't aware of the different levels, 874 01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,360 Speaker 1: a grunt marine is a fly compared to a Green 875 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,880 Speaker 1: Beret being like an eagle. That is the difference in 876 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,360 Speaker 1: levels we're talking about here. But I just by the way, 877 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,480 Speaker 1: I disagree with you right away, but go ahead with 878 01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,680 Speaker 1: your with your question. But I I even watch a 879 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,920 Speaker 1: movie like Predator, which might be my favorite movie of 880 01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:50,600 Speaker 1: all time, and I'm and I'm still to this day, 881 01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:52,760 Speaker 1: my wife will yell at me. I'm like, get your 882 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:56,840 Speaker 1: finger straight and off the trigger, and know that I 883 01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,919 Speaker 1: see these I see these things and they drive me bad. 884 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,800 Speaker 1: And that's as a grunt marine, as a Green Beret. 885 01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,000 Speaker 1: Be honest. I know you're I know you're probably not 886 01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,840 Speaker 1: a jerk about it, But do you watch and you're like, oh, please, no, 887 01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,320 Speaker 1: don't do that. No, that's not right. First of all, 888 01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,560 Speaker 1: grunts are the backbone of the military. I was a 889 01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,600 Speaker 1: grunt in the eighty second before I was a Special 890 01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:19,080 Speaker 1: Forces guy. That was the best path I could have taken. 891 01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,400 Speaker 1: And grunts, by the way, you being the exception, are 892 01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,280 Speaker 1: some of the smartest people I've ever met because we 893 01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,800 Speaker 1: always have. We always have to, Like, no matter what, 894 01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:30,920 Speaker 1: you know, nothing cooperates, the weather doesn't cooperate, equipment doesn't cooperate, 895 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,560 Speaker 1: and you can't go I'm staying home today. No, You've 896 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,240 Speaker 1: got to go get stuff done. So grunts are the 897 01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:41,760 Speaker 1: most adaptable dude. So so Marine's army, your your air force. 898 01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:47,000 Speaker 1: Insults on Twitter are magnificent. But anyway, yeah, so, um, 899 01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:51,440 Speaker 1: it's it's it's. It's kind of one of those things 900 01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:53,080 Speaker 1: where we didn't think it was going to be that good. 901 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,360 Speaker 1: But I mean when we do watch it, You're right, 902 01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,520 Speaker 1: when I'm watching a movie or TV show, I notice it, 903 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,000 Speaker 1: but I don't get two bent out of shape about 904 01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,800 Speaker 1: it because I know it's Hollywood. I think it's gotten 905 01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,320 Speaker 1: better over the years because there's a lot of tactical 906 01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,520 Speaker 1: advisors and stuff. You know, in the seventies when you 907 01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:11,320 Speaker 1: had every cop and army guy in the in the 908 01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:14,000 Speaker 1: movie looking like Charlie's angels, I think that's kind of gone. 909 01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:15,760 Speaker 1: So if I see stuff like that now, that just 910 01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,360 Speaker 1: tells me that they're kind of lazy. But you know, 911 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,680 Speaker 1: and and have you done that stuff Herery? Have you 912 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:22,840 Speaker 1: done the advisor stuff? How is that if you have, 913 01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,040 Speaker 1: I'm assuming you have. Surely they call you for that. 914 01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,680 Speaker 1: I did. I did some of that. Actually, I did 915 01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:30,520 Speaker 1: some of that when I was in New York on 916 01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,120 Speaker 1: what was that show? Person of Interest? And then I 917 01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:35,800 Speaker 1: got a little small role on there too. Um, it's 918 01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:37,680 Speaker 1: a pretty good gig, you know. I think it's a 919 01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,919 Speaker 1: good gig. Nick Sercy, as a matter of fact, had 920 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,360 Speaker 1: me scrub a script he wrote just about, you know, 921 01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,120 Speaker 1: some tactical stuff. But you know, the goal of the 922 01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,600 Speaker 1: show is not to debunk or to like say, oh 923 01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:51,000 Speaker 1: that show is BS, because that's not cool. It's entertainment. 924 01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,200 Speaker 1: But so we're kind of celebrating the show. And even 925 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,720 Speaker 1: if even like we tested good to Bad and yugg 926 01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,560 Speaker 1: and I was dressed like Cliniswood and I had these long, 927 01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,280 Speaker 1: crazy shots I had to make and sometimes I may them, 928 01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,400 Speaker 1: sometimes I didn't. But I'm not going to say oh 929 01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:04,440 Speaker 1: that's BS. I'll just look at it say well I 930 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,560 Speaker 1: didn't make the shot, but you know, dang well, Clint 931 01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,400 Speaker 1: Eastwoo would have made it. So now of course you 932 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,880 Speaker 1: would have why green Berets, Why was that always the 933 01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,440 Speaker 1: goal when you joined the army or were you just 934 01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,600 Speaker 1: one of these guys who kept finding a new challenge 935 01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:20,320 Speaker 1: or were you you know, as a kid, I'm going 936 01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,120 Speaker 1: to be a Green Beret. No, that's a good question. 937 01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,160 Speaker 1: And I've told people this before, so I you know, 938 01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,320 Speaker 1: I enlisted with a degree, and like I was a 939 01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,680 Speaker 1: biology guy and then an anthropology guy. At the end 940 01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:33,000 Speaker 1: of my junior year. I'm dude, I'm such a nerd. 941 01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:36,640 Speaker 1: And and well, by the way, my friend Andrew Willcow 942 01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:38,560 Speaker 1: who you know pretty well too, he called he called 943 01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:40,960 Speaker 1: the Green Berets warrior nerds because we kind of are 944 01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,560 Speaker 1: like that. But you know, I read a book in college, 945 01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,120 Speaker 1: the end of end of college about you know, it 946 01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,560 Speaker 1: was a Special Forces guys in Vietnam, like mac v 947 01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,760 Speaker 1: saw guys and I I couldn't put the book down. 948 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,200 Speaker 1: And it was like it wasn't even what they the 949 01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:57,360 Speaker 1: missions which were hiring. If anybody hasn't read about those guys, 950 01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,800 Speaker 1: you need to. But it was the black and white 951 01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:02,320 Speaker 1: pictures of these cats. I mean, they got there, they 952 01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,120 Speaker 1: got their arms around each other, they just came back 953 01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,720 Speaker 1: from a mission. They're sweaty. There's black guys, white guys 954 01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:09,880 Speaker 1: monting yards and they're smiling. And I'm thinking some of 955 01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:11,880 Speaker 1: those dudes didn't come out of out of that mission. 956 01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:13,960 Speaker 1: Some of the guys and they're all laughing, they're all 957 01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:17,360 Speaker 1: smiling at death. So I thought, that's the guy I 958 01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,040 Speaker 1: want to be. So like as soon as I graduated 959 01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:22,360 Speaker 1: from college, I messed around my brothers. He was up 960 01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,640 Speaker 1: in college in Vermont. And then I enlisted in October 961 01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,520 Speaker 1: of eighty eight. And back then there was no direct 962 01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:29,640 Speaker 1: pipeline to special Forces. So for me, I thought the 963 01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,080 Speaker 1: best way to do it was to be an infantryman. 964 01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:33,760 Speaker 1: So I was in the eighty second and that was 965 01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:35,640 Speaker 1: a great place to grow up, you know. I was. 966 01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:37,960 Speaker 1: I went to Rangers School, we went to Ricondo School. 967 01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,200 Speaker 1: I was in Panama Jungle jungle training. I was in 968 01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,040 Speaker 1: the Gulf War. So, by the way, you're welcome for 969 01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,680 Speaker 1: your freedom, Jesse, because bidden't fight in the Gulf War. 970 01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:49,600 Speaker 1: You do speak in Arabic. And then and then I 971 01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:51,160 Speaker 1: was in. So I was in the eighty second for 972 01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:52,760 Speaker 1: like two and a half years, and then I went 973 01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:54,960 Speaker 1: to the selection in the Q course and then I 974 01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,120 Speaker 1: got out. I got out in ninety seven, so I've 975 01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,720 Speaker 1: been in for about nine years. And then I went 976 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,040 Speaker 1: back to New York City. Got got basically an MFA 977 01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:03,960 Speaker 1: and acting. I was a theater actor in New York. 978 01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,000 Speaker 1: When nine to eleven happened, I joined back up to 979 01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,240 Speaker 1: the National Guard green Berets and I was in there 980 01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:11,520 Speaker 1: from October one and I retired in October twenty sixteen. 981 01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,880 Speaker 1: So it's a weird life. What's the Oh shoot, we've 982 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:16,840 Speaker 1: only got about a minute left, Terry. I know you're 983 01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,160 Speaker 1: a busy dude. Say no if you don't, but I 984 01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,760 Speaker 1: have heartbreaks now that I'm national and world famous and 985 01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,960 Speaker 1: such a celebrity and super important. Is there any way 986 01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:26,960 Speaker 1: you can hold on and do a couple other questions 987 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,680 Speaker 1: on the back end? How would I not do that 988 01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:31,880 Speaker 1: for you? Everybody's got to do everything they can to 989 01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,439 Speaker 1: pitch in and make this show. No, no, it's no, Look, 990 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:36,439 Speaker 1: it's fine. Look I'll tell you what I'll say. I'll 991 01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,719 Speaker 1: autograph a picture for you and have my guys email 992 01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,759 Speaker 1: tell you as a thank you. Terry shafferd Green Beret, 993 01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:44,840 Speaker 1: host of Hollywood Weapons on Outdoor Channel. Hang on, I 994 01:08:44,840 --> 01:09:04,679 Speaker 1: got a couple of questions for him on the other side. 995 01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:11,320 Speaker 1: Is he smarter than everyone he knows? Does he think so? Yeah? 996 01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:36,760 Speaker 1: That Jesse Kelly show. Terry Shepherd kind enough. He's such 997 01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:41,400 Speaker 1: a gentle soul when he's not killing people, kind enough 998 01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:44,160 Speaker 1: to stay over and talk to us. Retired Green Beret 999 01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:48,200 Speaker 1: host of Hollywood Weapons on the Outdoor Channel Terry, what 1000 01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:54,040 Speaker 1: is the most miserable environment to train and fight in? 1001 01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:59,519 Speaker 1: I think they all are terrible. When they're terrible, I mean, 1002 01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,960 Speaker 1: like I is never you know, like when I was. 1003 01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:05,439 Speaker 1: I'll never forget how cold I was. And I lived 1004 01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,559 Speaker 1: in Europe with Special Forces and was up in Norway. 1005 01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:09,640 Speaker 1: But when I went through dug Way, which was the 1006 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,080 Speaker 1: desert phase of Rangers School in December, I don't think 1007 01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,599 Speaker 1: I've ever been that cold. So and I also hate 1008 01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:20,439 Speaker 1: the jungle, dude, I mean the jungle is everything in 1009 01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:23,640 Speaker 1: the jungle. Mostly my good friend John Hudson, who's the 1010 01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:27,040 Speaker 1: Headseer instructor out in UH for the British military. We 1011 01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,160 Speaker 1: were in a show together called Dude, You're Screwed. He 1012 01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,160 Speaker 1: actually said he goes the jungle is like a huge 1013 01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,600 Speaker 1: awesome grocery store, but you don't know what any of 1014 01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,760 Speaker 1: the labels are, And it was just like, yeah, I 1015 01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:38,439 Speaker 1: mean I thought that was pretty cool because he spent 1016 01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:40,400 Speaker 1: a lot of time. But yeah, I mean I think 1017 01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,280 Speaker 1: I think they kind of all can really crush you 1018 01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,240 Speaker 1: if you're not ready. And I think that's you know 1019 01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:48,720 Speaker 1: I was. I was always better in cold environment than 1020 01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,160 Speaker 1: I wasn't hot because I get dehydrated easily, you know, 1021 01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,080 Speaker 1: because my body's such a fine tune machine yet that 1022 01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,960 Speaker 1: I need water. Don't give me the look, dude. I 1023 01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:58,560 Speaker 1: can see the look right now through the phone, and 1024 01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,280 Speaker 1: I'm not in love with your tone. You know. Jungle 1025 01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:03,360 Speaker 1: is the word. As soon as you've had to burn 1026 01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:05,800 Speaker 1: a leech off of your nether regions, you will learn 1027 01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:07,800 Speaker 1: a new hatred for the jungle. I've had to do 1028 01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,120 Speaker 1: that before. It's the worst thing, is well, we used 1029 01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,200 Speaker 1: to have to roll up tobacco in the bottom of 1030 01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,720 Speaker 1: our trousers to keep the leeches from crawling up. Is 1031 01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:16,679 Speaker 1: this the worst thing in the world. I mean, look, 1032 01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:20,040 Speaker 1: they says boys, that's one of the final phases, or 1033 01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,120 Speaker 1: at least it used to be. They throw them I 1034 01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,760 Speaker 1: forget what is. It might be Cambodia. They just throw 1035 01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:26,599 Speaker 1: them in the jungle for a while and see who's 1036 01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,479 Speaker 1: just going to be like you know what, I'm out. Yeah, 1037 01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:30,960 Speaker 1: I think some of them. I think those guys do 1038 01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,200 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff in Brunei and all those point. 1039 01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:35,639 Speaker 1: I mean they do. Yeah, I mean the jungle will 1040 01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:39,880 Speaker 1: crush anybody. I mean, but the environment will crush anybody 1041 01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:41,800 Speaker 1: if you're not ready for it. But I always thought 1042 01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:44,920 Speaker 1: the jungle was was the worst. Tell me what are 1043 01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:47,519 Speaker 1: you doing? What are you allowed to tell me? That's sweet? 1044 01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,639 Speaker 1: Who goes to Norway guys just sitting on Norway chicks 1045 01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,400 Speaker 1: or what? Well, there was some of that. I mean 1046 01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:56,320 Speaker 1: I was in I was in Charlie Company, first to 1047 01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:58,880 Speaker 1: tie at ten Special Forces. We were in Stuttgart. Each 1048 01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:02,280 Speaker 1: fought in stutt Gut for Delhabiaha and so we we 1049 01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:05,360 Speaker 1: actually we did we did ah, we worked. We used 1050 01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:06,960 Speaker 1: to train. We did a lot of j sets. You 1051 01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:10,160 Speaker 1: know what we do. We train with a foreign military guy. 1052 01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:13,960 Speaker 1: So I did, I don't know, and even if I did, well, okay, 1053 01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:17,360 Speaker 1: maybe I do know, but the audience doesn't explain, right, 1054 01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,920 Speaker 1: So j A j set is called as a joint 1055 01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:23,720 Speaker 1: combined exercise for training. So you know, depending on like 1056 01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,080 Speaker 1: what group you're in and Special Forces, some of those 1057 01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:28,040 Speaker 1: were great, Like when I was in tenth group, we 1058 01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:31,280 Speaker 1: got all the cool ones like Norway and Denmark, you know, 1059 01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:33,680 Speaker 1: and I went to Slovakia because they speak checked. But 1060 01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,000 Speaker 1: like if you were and the seventh group guys get 1061 01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,439 Speaker 1: to go to like Columbia, and you know, but when 1062 01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:39,720 Speaker 1: you were in the fifth when you were in fifth 1063 01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,519 Speaker 1: group years ago before the fund kicked off, you were 1064 01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,080 Speaker 1: doing stuff and like Saudi Arabia. So like when you 1065 01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:46,640 Speaker 1: went to fifth group, you were bummed. But you know, 1066 01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,120 Speaker 1: fifth group and fifth group and third group of you know, 1067 01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:52,080 Speaker 1: they did so much heavy lifting in this uh in 1068 01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,120 Speaker 1: this in this late war. But yeah, Norway was cool. 1069 01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:57,280 Speaker 1: We trained with this group called the the FSK, which 1070 01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,240 Speaker 1: is they're kind of like they're character terrorist guys and 1071 01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,759 Speaker 1: they do a lot of things with um oil rigs, 1072 01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:03,800 Speaker 1: you know, do a lot of maritime stuff. And we 1073 01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,640 Speaker 1: also were up in this place called Doombus, which was 1074 01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:10,000 Speaker 1: where the first actually American casualty or World War two happened. 1075 01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,240 Speaker 1: It was a pilot that got that got shot down, 1076 01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:15,040 Speaker 1: and they have a ceremony there every year. I liked 1077 01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:18,439 Speaker 1: living in Europe. Europe was really cool. Um I think 1078 01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:20,640 Speaker 1: they've I think they're in big trouble and for a 1079 01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:23,240 Speaker 1: lot of reasons, as we know, but I mean it's 1080 01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:25,760 Speaker 1: a great place. If you haven't been there, and you're 1081 01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:27,479 Speaker 1: an American. It's a good place to go because there's 1082 01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:30,120 Speaker 1: you'll see so much continuity, you know. But I mean 1083 01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:32,760 Speaker 1: every place is cool to a degree. And the girls 1084 01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:36,679 Speaker 1: in Scandinavia are they're they're pretty If you're into that thing, yeah, yeah, 1085 01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:39,720 Speaker 1: everybody who's straight is into that thing. All right. What's 1086 01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:43,400 Speaker 1: the coolest Obviously, the coolest thing you can talk about 1087 01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,240 Speaker 1: you ever got to do? Was it jumping out of 1088 01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:50,200 Speaker 1: a plane? Was it? I explain what it was? The 1089 01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,880 Speaker 1: coolest thing I ever did? Man, that thing you got 1090 01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:54,760 Speaker 1: to do where you thought to yourself or at least 1091 01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,000 Speaker 1: something that pops into your mind and you thought to yourself, Dude, 1092 01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:01,479 Speaker 1: I am a commando and this is sweet. Yeah. I 1093 01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,680 Speaker 1: think anytime you're getting on a helicopter and it's like 1094 01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:07,000 Speaker 1: two in the morning and you're loaded up and you 1095 01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:08,920 Speaker 1: kind of look at each other and go, holy crap, 1096 01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,599 Speaker 1: we're actually doing this, that's a pretty great feeling. I mean, 1097 01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:14,800 Speaker 1: and I think, you know, it's I think anybody who's 1098 01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,960 Speaker 1: done what we've done you miss that. And it's not 1099 01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:21,000 Speaker 1: that we're adrenaline junkies, but we do. You know, you 1100 01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,240 Speaker 1: go through all this training and all the sacrifice, and 1101 01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,400 Speaker 1: it sounds it's not like we're war mongers, but our 1102 01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,160 Speaker 1: whole goal is to is to test ourselves. And what 1103 01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,439 Speaker 1: I missed also the most, honestly every day, because I 1104 01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,400 Speaker 1: was a team sergeant in my last few years five 1105 01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:34,560 Speaker 1: years actually in the National Guard Special Forces. I was 1106 01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:38,400 Speaker 1: a senior enlisted guy. So I missed my guys. I missed. 1107 01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,760 Speaker 1: I missed the dudes more than anything. I think if 1108 01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:43,880 Speaker 1: you talk to most military guys, especially to combat people, 1109 01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:45,960 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's what I missed. I they were 1110 01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,120 Speaker 1: my family, and that's what I missed the most. Not 1111 01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,360 Speaker 1: not the cool guys, stuffed cool guys. Stuff was cool, 1112 01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:54,560 Speaker 1: but I miss I missed being around guys. You know 1113 01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:56,160 Speaker 1: what kind of place Jesse and you were, you were 1114 01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,200 Speaker 1: in this world? What kind of place can you say? 1115 01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:00,479 Speaker 1: What kind of workplace can you say? We're When you 1116 01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:03,280 Speaker 1: walk to your workplace, everybody in that room will kill 1117 01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:06,680 Speaker 1: for you, and everybody in that room will die for you, 1118 01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,360 Speaker 1: and they will expect you to do those same things. 1119 01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:13,080 Speaker 1: That's a pretty you can't really imitate that workplace. So 1120 01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:15,400 Speaker 1: when guys get out, they kind of get jammed up 1121 01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:18,599 Speaker 1: because nothing's going to really equal that kind of life. 1122 01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,240 Speaker 1: But you just have to find a way to fit in. 1123 01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:22,240 Speaker 1: And what I try to do, I mean, I have 1124 01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:24,560 Speaker 1: fun so many my silly TV shows, but like you know, 1125 01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,240 Speaker 1: I teach diving and I do stuff with Test Force Dagger, 1126 01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:30,240 Speaker 1: which is a special force of charity. Try to get 1127 01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:33,280 Speaker 1: involved in dog rescue. I tell people, man, if you're 1128 01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:34,960 Speaker 1: having a hard time, and I had a hard time 1129 01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:36,400 Speaker 1: a few years ago when I was getting out of 1130 01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:38,760 Speaker 1: the Army and I was getting divorced, telling me I'm old, 1131 01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:41,280 Speaker 1: and I'm like, hold on, life's over. Hold on. We 1132 01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,439 Speaker 1: are up against the break here. You know what, screw this, 1133 01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:46,960 Speaker 1: I'm holding you over and you have one more minute 1134 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,120 Speaker 1: to finish this in just a second, okay, one second, 1135 01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:13,400 Speaker 1: Terry Shapherd, Green Beret, Hollywood Weapons on the Outdoor Channel. 1136 01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:15,080 Speaker 1: We've only got a couple of minutes left as we 1137 01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:16,800 Speaker 1: wrapped this up, and we're finally gonna let him go. 1138 01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:18,280 Speaker 1: I want you to take that away real quick for 1139 01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:21,599 Speaker 1: the guys who were struggling real quick. Yeah. Look, man, 1140 01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:24,160 Speaker 1: it's you know our whole lives. You were in this 1141 01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:27,439 Speaker 1: world too as a grunt, and you know peer pressure 1142 01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:29,160 Speaker 1: is good. You never want to be that guy that 1143 01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,360 Speaker 1: comes in last or is the weak link. And I 1144 01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:33,720 Speaker 1: think guys get jammed up when they get out of 1145 01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:35,960 Speaker 1: that world because you know, now you're asked to do 1146 01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:38,360 Speaker 1: things like don't really mean that much, and you're missing 1147 01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:41,479 Speaker 1: that structure. You know. For years, I mean a couple 1148 01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:42,960 Speaker 1: of years ago, I had a hard time. Man. I 1149 01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:44,760 Speaker 1: was getting divorced, I was getting out of the army. 1150 01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,479 Speaker 1: I was like, I just turned fifty, I mean, and 1151 01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:49,800 Speaker 1: I was like, all the good years are behind me. 1152 01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:52,200 Speaker 1: So I was thinking about kind of ending it. And 1153 01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,360 Speaker 1: I'm telling you that honestly, it's not something I'm proud of, 1154 01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:58,400 Speaker 1: but I had batted that around and I was up anyway. 1155 01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,280 Speaker 1: My point is I talked to people before or who 1156 01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:02,680 Speaker 1: have been in that situation, and all I can tell 1157 01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:04,519 Speaker 1: him is this, look, if you make it about you, 1158 01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:08,000 Speaker 1: you might pull that trigger because it's about you. It's 1159 01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:09,640 Speaker 1: just you're ending the pain and you're ready to go 1160 01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:11,800 Speaker 1: on to the next thing. But what I try to 1161 01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,080 Speaker 1: tell people is, don't make it about you. You know, 1162 01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:16,719 Speaker 1: think about the people you'll hurt, think about the people 1163 01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,040 Speaker 1: who will miss you, and then furthermore, think about what 1164 01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:21,519 Speaker 1: else you can do to make this place fricking better, 1165 01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:24,920 Speaker 1: even if it's a small circle of like rescuing dogs 1166 01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:28,000 Speaker 1: or getting involved with veterans cherries or working in a kitchen. 1167 01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:31,800 Speaker 1: Terry Shapherd Man, listen to that. If you're hurting out there, 1168 01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:35,599 Speaker 1: email me Jesse at Jesse Kelly Show dot com. Terry 1169 01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:37,599 Speaker 1: appreciate you more than you know, my friend. I'll talk 1170 01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:59,240 Speaker 1: to you again soon. Thanks brother, The Jesse Kelly Show. 1171 01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:25,400 Speaker 1: This is a Jesse Kelly Show. Chris, it's time to 1172 01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:29,640 Speaker 1: have a frank conversation about grocery shopping because there's a 1173 01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:33,080 Speaker 1: Japanese mayor got himself in a little bit of hot water. 1174 01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:40,800 Speaker 1: The headline is Japanese mayor says men should go should 1175 01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:45,080 Speaker 1: grocery shop during the pandemic as women take a longer time. 1176 01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:52,479 Speaker 1: Women take quote. Women take a longer time grocery shopping 1177 01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,439 Speaker 1: because they browsed through different products and way out which 1178 01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:59,120 Speaker 1: option is best. Matt Sue told reporters at a Coronavirus 1179 01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:03,840 Speaker 1: press conference Nosaka on Thursday. Men quickly grab what they're 1180 01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,080 Speaker 1: told to buy, so they won't ling you're at the 1181 01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:13,320 Speaker 1: supermarket that avoids close contact with others. Okay, let's just 1182 01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:19,240 Speaker 1: be clear about something he's one hundred percent right, He's 1183 01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:25,080 Speaker 1: one thousand percent right, and I'm a slave to my stomach. 1184 01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:29,880 Speaker 1: Everybody knows this, but I will tell you full disclosure. 1185 01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:36,280 Speaker 1: I love grocery shopping. Now, actually, that's probably not the 1186 01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,280 Speaker 1: right way to put that, Chris, I love going to 1187 01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:43,240 Speaker 1: the grocery store in buying food. I don't know if 1188 01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,160 Speaker 1: that counts as grocery shopping. And what I mean is, 1189 01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:50,080 Speaker 1: I don't walk into the grocery store with the list 1190 01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,680 Speaker 1: of things we need and pick out those things. I 1191 01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:57,120 Speaker 1: walk into the grocery store with no plan whatsoever, and 1192 01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:01,600 Speaker 1: I just start chucking stuff in the card. I have 1193 01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:06,640 Speaker 1: had to learn through the years that probably not the 1194 01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,600 Speaker 1: best idea to do that when you're hungry. That's in 1195 01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:15,200 Speaker 1: general a really bad decision. But look, this is how 1196 01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:18,800 Speaker 1: women grocery shop. My wife walks in the grocery store 1197 01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:21,840 Speaker 1: and she has a list, right, and almost everyone has 1198 01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:23,519 Speaker 1: it on their phone. Nowaday, maybe you still have a 1199 01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:25,479 Speaker 1: written outlist. She has a list, You have a list. 1200 01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:28,800 Speaker 1: And where do they go? First? They go over to 1201 01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:33,080 Speaker 1: the produce section. I never even walk into the produce section. 1202 01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:35,720 Speaker 1: Why would I go to the produce section. I'm not 1203 01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:38,559 Speaker 1: a rabbit, but they head over to the produce section. 1204 01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:43,479 Speaker 1: And even something simple like every time I've ever had 1205 01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:47,120 Speaker 1: to bring home produce, like I'll text the wife or 1206 01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:49,880 Speaker 1: give her a call and say, hey, I'm stop at 1207 01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:51,840 Speaker 1: the grocery store for cheese sticks on the way home. 1208 01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:55,240 Speaker 1: Let me know if you need anything, And it's always 1209 01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:59,439 Speaker 1: something like, please bring home bananas. And anytime I've ever 1210 01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:05,080 Speaker 1: brought home produce, it's you got those, And I'm like, 1211 01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:08,280 Speaker 1: what small with them? They're bananas, they're half black. Well, 1212 01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:13,160 Speaker 1: you didn't say anything about about looking for something specific. 1213 01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,400 Speaker 1: If you would like something specific when it comes to 1214 01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:18,320 Speaker 1: the bananas, let me know. These are the strawberries you got. 1215 01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:20,600 Speaker 1: There's a moldy one. Well, I didn't open it up 1216 01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:23,519 Speaker 1: and examine every strawberry. You said, grab strawberries. So I 1217 01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:27,760 Speaker 1: grabbed the first thing of strawberries I saw. And then 1218 01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:29,519 Speaker 1: she has the golden yell at me when I teach 1219 01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:34,559 Speaker 1: my sons, the darker the berry, the sweener the juice. Anyway, 1220 01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:38,519 Speaker 1: I don't want to get sidetracked. Here a woman walks 1221 01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:40,519 Speaker 1: in a grocery store and she walks over the produce 1222 01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:44,160 Speaker 1: section and she starts, you know, like I like the strawberries. 1223 01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:47,200 Speaker 1: It is a great example. It's not the first, it's 1224 01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:49,160 Speaker 1: not the second, it's not the third, it's not the fourth, 1225 01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:51,720 Speaker 1: it's not the fifth. It's like the tenth thing of strawberries. 1226 01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:55,280 Speaker 1: She'll finally decide is the right one. Like I said, 1227 01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:57,360 Speaker 1: if you send me to for strawberries, I'm out in 1228 01:21:57,439 --> 01:22:02,280 Speaker 1: five seconds. Quick, decisive strawberries in the basket. Let's get 1229 01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:05,760 Speaker 1: to the good stuff. We're heading for the meats. Let's 1230 01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:08,759 Speaker 1: get some steaks. That steak looks good, get some burger 1231 01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:13,320 Speaker 1: head on over to the cheese. Cruise on down to 1232 01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:16,240 Speaker 1: beer aisle, and see if bud heavies are on sale. 1233 01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:23,920 Speaker 1: I when I grocery shop, and I don't take a 1234 01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:27,719 Speaker 1: long time doing this. But in general, with the exception 1235 01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:31,760 Speaker 1: of the you know, bake goods section, I will go 1236 01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:35,320 Speaker 1: up and down every single while I do. I go 1237 01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:38,599 Speaker 1: up and down every single while. Oh let's mysol browse 1238 01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:41,000 Speaker 1: the sauces and see what's out there. But I don't 1239 01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:43,680 Speaker 1: take a long time. I don't sit in agonize. I 1240 01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:46,640 Speaker 1: grab it and I'm gone. If I go to the 1241 01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:50,679 Speaker 1: grocery store for bacon, I'm gonna come out with six 1242 01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:53,120 Speaker 1: or seven items every time I'm gonna come out with 1243 01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:56,799 Speaker 1: some chips. Almost undoubtedly I'm gonna come out with some cheese. 1244 01:22:57,439 --> 01:23:00,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try a new frozen pizza. The searches always 1245 01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:03,640 Speaker 1: on for the perfect frozen pizza. What, Chris, why are 1246 01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:11,439 Speaker 1: you shaking your head? Are you not a cheese person? Chris? No, No, 1247 01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:13,559 Speaker 1: I will not be accused of that. Chris just said 1248 01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:15,280 Speaker 1: I take too long. I do not take too long. 1249 01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:17,840 Speaker 1: I am very fast. The point of this is how 1250 01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:20,080 Speaker 1: fast I am. I'm going to grab a bunch of 1251 01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:23,240 Speaker 1: things that we may not quote need, but I do 1252 01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:26,400 Speaker 1: it quickly, I do it decisively. I don't know that 1253 01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:28,720 Speaker 1: I've ever spent more than ten or fifteen minutes ever 1254 01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:33,800 Speaker 1: in a grocery store. But women do not. Women walk 1255 01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,840 Speaker 1: in there. And granted, you can make the argument they 1256 01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:39,479 Speaker 1: have the burden of having to buy things we actually need. 1257 01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:41,600 Speaker 1: It would never even occur to me to look at 1258 01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,280 Speaker 1: the paper towels. I just show up at the house 1259 01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:45,840 Speaker 1: and they're already there. I don't know what the big 1260 01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:49,240 Speaker 1: deal is. Women have to get the paper towels, women 1261 01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:51,519 Speaker 1: have to get the butt paper, women have to get 1262 01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:53,720 Speaker 1: all these things. I get it, I get it. They 1263 01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:57,760 Speaker 1: have an extra burden. But they're not as decisive. They're 1264 01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:00,479 Speaker 1: not as decisive, they're gonna agonize over the stray, he said. 1265 01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:02,920 Speaker 1: I don't see why that should be controversial in any way, Chris, 1266 01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:13,160 Speaker 1: I really don't. But I'm the superior shopper on top 1267 01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:16,360 Speaker 1: of the burden of need. Women. Women buy the food 1268 01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:20,519 Speaker 1: that keeps them hot. I'm gonna walk away with the 1269 01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:24,240 Speaker 1: newest frozen pizza. The wife's gonna walk away with sushi 1270 01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:27,720 Speaker 1: and a leaf of lettuce. That's just the difference. And 1271 01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,759 Speaker 1: I get that that's the burden of that's the burden 1272 01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:34,240 Speaker 1: of being a woman. So let me just tell you, Governor, 1273 01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:39,080 Speaker 1: Mayor Matt Sui of Osaka, I stand with you. You 1274 01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:42,439 Speaker 1: have the support of the Jesse Kelly Show. If I 1275 01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:45,200 Speaker 1: thought you spoke English, I would invite you on so 1276 01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,760 Speaker 1: you can say your peace and also us this. Now, 1277 01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:54,840 Speaker 1: what's wrong with laughing about the differences between men and women. 1278 01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:56,960 Speaker 1: I mean, apparently there's not much wrong with it, because 1279 01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:58,760 Speaker 1: I've made a career of it. But you know the 1280 01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:03,400 Speaker 1: reason I've made a career it because virtually everyone else 1281 01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:07,519 Speaker 1: is afraid to do it. Virtually everyone else is afraid 1282 01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:09,040 Speaker 1: to do it in this day and age. You can 1283 01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:11,400 Speaker 1: even see it all over TV. Oh don't get me wrong. 1284 01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:14,479 Speaker 1: You can make fun of men and put dowlan men 1285 01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,720 Speaker 1: until the cows come home. Man are stupid? Man? Are idiots? Men? 1286 01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:22,200 Speaker 1: I mean, what's all the comedy out there? Now? Guy? 1287 01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:26,760 Speaker 1: Stupid guy? This guy that you say one freaking thing 1288 01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:30,680 Speaker 1: about women and the daggon herd of cats comes for you. 1289 01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,439 Speaker 1: And I think that's insane. I think it's funny. I 1290 01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:38,360 Speaker 1: think laughing about gender differences is hilarious. I think laughing 1291 01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:41,800 Speaker 1: about cultural differences is hilarious. One of the things I 1292 01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:44,120 Speaker 1: missed the most. I mean, you heard Terry Shapherd talk 1293 01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:47,400 Speaker 1: about it earlier. The guys. One of the things I 1294 01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:52,040 Speaker 1: missed the most about the Marine Corps the racial humor. 1295 01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:57,000 Speaker 1: It was awesome. Your platoon was full of black dudes 1296 01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:59,599 Speaker 1: and Hispanic dudes. Hey, you got this guy's from Mexico, 1297 01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:01,920 Speaker 1: and this guys from Guam, and this guy's from Kuma, 1298 01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,400 Speaker 1: and this guy's from you know, he's from the hood somewhere, 1299 01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:07,320 Speaker 1: and I'm white trash and we all mocked each other 1300 01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:09,640 Speaker 1: all the time, and we all loved each other. And 1301 01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:13,040 Speaker 1: I miss that. I miss being able to talk like that. 1302 01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:15,360 Speaker 1: In this day and age, you even bring up something 1303 01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:18,240 Speaker 1: like that and everybody, ah, you're a Nazi. You people 1304 01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:26,000 Speaker 1: are idiots. The most racist people I've ever met in 1305 01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:28,840 Speaker 1: my entire life, I mean, genuinely racist people I've ever 1306 01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:32,639 Speaker 1: met my entire life, are these race crusaders. They are 1307 01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:38,080 Speaker 1: he said this about black people, he must be a racist. 1308 01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:41,720 Speaker 1: Look at look at this boardroom. Look at all the 1309 01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:46,719 Speaker 1: white people in there. That's somebody with some darkness inside 1310 01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:51,000 Speaker 1: of him, with some evil racist thoughts. And it is 1311 01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:55,840 Speaker 1: a person who genuinely doesn't really care about race that much, 1312 01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:59,120 Speaker 1: would never look at a boardroom full of white people 1313 01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:02,240 Speaker 1: and say, m let me count the black people up. 1314 01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:03,840 Speaker 1: You know what, there's a couple of black dudes. Not 1315 01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:06,920 Speaker 1: very many Hispanics though, I bet you he hates Mexicans. 1316 01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:11,400 Speaker 1: Oh there's only one woman. Clearly he's sexist. That's somebody. 1317 01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:18,000 Speaker 1: That's somebody who's hiding some things. People. The guy who's 1318 01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:22,400 Speaker 1: able to make a funny joke with his buddy, that's 1319 01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:27,080 Speaker 1: the guy with nothing to hide. Remember that, Remember that 1320 01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:53,720 Speaker 1: this is a Jesse Kelly show. Like a stain on 1321 01:27:53,800 --> 01:28:22,120 Speaker 1: your brain, you can't get out. Oh good, Apparently we 1322 01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:27,040 Speaker 1: have a meat shortage coming all right. As you can tell, 1323 01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:31,640 Speaker 1: I've kept a daylight lighter today, not a lot of politics, 1324 01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:36,360 Speaker 1: and I will tell you going forward that's going to 1325 01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:43,000 Speaker 1: be a general theme for Friday's shows, full disclosure. It's 1326 01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:48,160 Speaker 1: the end of the week, you especially during these times. 1327 01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:50,240 Speaker 1: I've had a hard week. Lots of times I talk 1328 01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:51,920 Speaker 1: about some hard stuff during the show. You know, I 1329 01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:54,040 Speaker 1: generally keep it lighter. We like to laugh. What else 1330 01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:56,400 Speaker 1: can you do at this point in time, But we've 1331 01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:59,280 Speaker 1: got to hit some heavy stuff now and then when 1332 01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:05,560 Speaker 1: the week end finally gets here, who wants to be 1333 01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:09,320 Speaker 1: beat over the face with more reality again? I mean, 1334 01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:14,920 Speaker 1: everybody needs a little escape now and then. It's what 1335 01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:17,439 Speaker 1: made me so mad about the NFL Draft last night, Chris, 1336 01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:21,160 Speaker 1: did you watch in the NFL Draft? Well, the NFL 1337 01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:24,240 Speaker 1: Draft is a big deal. It's not a small thing. 1338 01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:28,799 Speaker 1: The NFL Draft consistently, the ratings for it, the television 1339 01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:34,080 Speaker 1: ratings for it, will beat virtually every NBA game throughout 1340 01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:37,360 Speaker 1: the year. The NFL Draft is gigantic because the NFL's gigantic, 1341 01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:42,599 Speaker 1: and we haven't had any sports in a long time. 1342 01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:47,000 Speaker 1: And now I understand that Adam Schefter got in trouble 1343 01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:49,559 Speaker 1: last night because he said we finally have sports again, 1344 01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:52,160 Speaker 1: and then all the Feminazis came after him and he 1345 01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:55,080 Speaker 1: had to put like a response that I'm sorry, I forgot. 1346 01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:59,439 Speaker 1: We had the w NBA Draft, but we haven't had 1347 01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:03,920 Speaker 1: any sports in a while. Sitting around with the fam 1348 01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:06,679 Speaker 1: last night, I mean, everyone's basically locked inside. You can't 1349 01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:11,000 Speaker 1: knock off, go out to red lobster, something nice, and 1350 01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:14,160 Speaker 1: so sports were coming on? Did I tell the fam, 1351 01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:16,880 Speaker 1: let's watch the draft. It's something right And I always 1352 01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:19,320 Speaker 1: enjoy the NFL Draft. Remember, I love a rags to 1353 01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:22,360 Speaker 1: riches story, and I love seeing these guys have their 1354 01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:26,200 Speaker 1: dreams come true. I think it's cool. Except for everyone 1355 01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:28,680 Speaker 1: who went to Michigan, but that's another story. I think 1356 01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:31,800 Speaker 1: it's cool watching people have their dreams come true. I'm like, 1357 01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:35,880 Speaker 1: let's you know what I tell the wife, Hey, we 1358 01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:40,200 Speaker 1: have been braged by bad news for a month and 1359 01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:43,440 Speaker 1: a half now we all have, haven't we It's coronavirus, 1360 01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:48,679 Speaker 1: this death, that freaking depression. It's just it's at schools, kids, 1361 01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:51,200 Speaker 1: and it's you don't have to look hard to find 1362 01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:55,559 Speaker 1: bad news out there right now, you just don't. Yes, finally, 1363 01:30:55,640 --> 01:31:02,320 Speaker 1: get some sports. Now, sports used to understand. They used 1364 01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:09,360 Speaker 1: to understand that they were an escape. Sports is an escape. 1365 01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:16,920 Speaker 1: Watching sports is nothing more than entertainment. The smart athletes, 1366 01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:20,240 Speaker 1: the smart general managers, coaches, the smart commissioners of the 1367 01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:25,080 Speaker 1: league's understood that Daniel Stearn was the commissioner of the 1368 01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:29,080 Speaker 1: NBA when Michael Jordan was there. He and Jordan both 1369 01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:34,040 Speaker 1: very very much understood, Yes, basketball is important. It's kind 1370 01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:38,080 Speaker 1: of about basketball. This is entertainment for people. People want 1371 01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:41,360 Speaker 1: to be entertained, They want to see Michael Jordan fly, 1372 01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:45,000 Speaker 1: they want to buy Michael Jordan posters, going to a 1373 01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:48,559 Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls gamer, watching it on TV was a family event. 1374 01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:54,400 Speaker 1: Why because it wasn't work. It wasn't politics, it wasn't 1375 01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:58,519 Speaker 1: the newest war, it wasn't anything. Sports is a two 1376 01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:02,120 Speaker 1: or three hour get away in your life. And that's good. 1377 01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:07,439 Speaker 1: It's important, compartmentalize, shut things down, get away. That's what 1378 01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:11,759 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be. Now, those lines have been sadly 1379 01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:18,639 Speaker 1: blurred severely over the years, especially recently. You heard Aubrey Huff, 1380 01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:20,640 Speaker 1: that World Series pitcher who was on our show a 1381 01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:23,120 Speaker 1: couple days ago, talk about it. A lot of that 1382 01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:26,280 Speaker 1: social media. These players all want to be their own brand. 1383 01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:28,280 Speaker 1: Now there's a lot of money to be made there. 1384 01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:33,600 Speaker 1: A lot of that is simple leftism. Leftists do not 1385 01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:37,400 Speaker 1: view you will hear me say this endlessly. Leftists do 1386 01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:43,439 Speaker 1: not view anything where they aren't and say to themselves, ah, 1387 01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:47,200 Speaker 1: let's let that go. That is not how they view life. 1388 01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:52,640 Speaker 1: It is a dominating religion. Leftism is a religion. It 1389 01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:56,440 Speaker 1: is not a political philosophy, and it is one of domination. 1390 01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:59,799 Speaker 1: There are different philosophies, different religions out there that believed 1391 01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:04,400 Speaker 1: different things. Leftism believes I must control at all. And 1392 01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:08,280 Speaker 1: they infected sports. They're everywhere. Now everything is the new 1393 01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:11,000 Speaker 1: social justice this and leftist that, and I'm going to 1394 01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:14,599 Speaker 1: endorse Hillary Clinton and it's it's all that. So that's 1395 01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:18,559 Speaker 1: a lot of it. And I forgot that last night, Chris, 1396 01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:22,280 Speaker 1: when I decided we were going to watch the NFL Draft, 1397 01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:27,960 Speaker 1: I had forgotten that. I said, who, you know what, Oh, finally, 1398 01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:32,080 Speaker 1: let's just stop talking about and stop hearing about the 1399 01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:37,400 Speaker 1: coronavirus for five seconds. Let's stop talking about the economy 1400 01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:41,519 Speaker 1: for five seconds. Let's hear some sports. I want to 1401 01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:44,400 Speaker 1: watch college football highlights while they talk about the next 1402 01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:48,880 Speaker 1: draft guy. I want to watch quarterbacks throwing darts, defensive 1403 01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:52,519 Speaker 1: lineman best bench pressing a house. I want to watch 1404 01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:56,200 Speaker 1: wide receivers run like the wind blows. I just I 1405 01:33:56,360 --> 01:34:03,880 Speaker 1: just want a couple hours of football, man. And the 1406 01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:09,800 Speaker 1: first fifteen minutes I counted. I'm not making this up. 1407 01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:11,960 Speaker 1: It wasn't one, it wasn't two, it wasn't three, it 1408 01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:16,680 Speaker 1: wasn't four, it wasn't five. The first fifteen minutes of 1409 01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:22,000 Speaker 1: the NFL draft coverage, the first sports we've had, was 1410 01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:27,639 Speaker 1: all about coronavirus. Stay inside, make sure you're wearing a mask. 1411 01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:32,080 Speaker 1: Let's honor these healthcare people. Let's honor these healthcare people. 1412 01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:34,639 Speaker 1: Have you heard about this nurse. Have you heard about 1413 01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:38,400 Speaker 1: that nurse. This is a time of crisis. We have 1414 01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:41,519 Speaker 1: a crisis here. And you may be saying to yourself, Jessie, 1415 01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:46,680 Speaker 1: that's nice. They were honoring it. Nobody tuned into the 1416 01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:50,920 Speaker 1: NFL Draft to see them honor anybody or talk about coronavirus. 1417 01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:58,160 Speaker 1: I tuned in to see sports and escaped that specifically, specifically, 1418 01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:03,920 Speaker 1: I tuned into escape that. That's why I'm there. It 1419 01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:06,840 Speaker 1: would be like posting a nagging wife on the t 1420 01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:10,200 Speaker 1: box of the golf course every Saturday morning. The reason 1421 01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm there is to get away from that, not me specifically, 1422 01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:25,639 Speaker 1: but that's probably you. Let people escape, Let people get away. 1423 01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:29,760 Speaker 1: I don't need you to be an activist. And not 1424 01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:32,160 Speaker 1: only that, I don't want you to be an activist. 1425 01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:33,960 Speaker 1: And it's not just me. If it was just me, 1426 01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:37,960 Speaker 1: it wouldn't matter. The people don't want it. I don't 1427 01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:40,920 Speaker 1: want to see activism, even for a good cause, even 1428 01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:45,320 Speaker 1: for coronavirus this or coronavirus that. What have I told you? 1429 01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:48,960 Speaker 1: What do I tell you all the time? Take the 1430 01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:54,360 Speaker 1: temperature of the room. Learn to take the temperature of 1431 01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:59,639 Speaker 1: the room. Timing is everything. You can have your little 1432 01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:04,880 Speaker 1: fl infomercial on coronavirus. You can have doctor Fauci get 1433 01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:06,880 Speaker 1: up and speak like of course he had to speak 1434 01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:10,040 Speaker 1: last night. I can't even escape freaking doctor Fauci when 1435 01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:12,599 Speaker 1: I tune into the draft. You can do all those 1436 01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:21,519 Speaker 1: things at another time. This was the country's one escape 1437 01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:25,479 Speaker 1: from all this disaster. When it comes to sports, this 1438 01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:28,840 Speaker 1: was the one sports escape we've had in two months. 1439 01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:31,759 Speaker 1: Everything else is canceled, everything else has been taken away, 1440 01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:37,960 Speaker 1: and you couldn't let people have it and that is 1441 01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:42,000 Speaker 1: the kind of idiotic bubble thinking that has divided the country. 1442 01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:45,320 Speaker 1: And you can yell at me all you want. The 1443 01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:47,840 Speaker 1: presidents as guilty of it as anybody else. Right now, 1444 01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:51,679 Speaker 1: you remember when he blasted the Georgia governor for opening 1445 01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:57,000 Speaker 1: up yesterday publicly kneecapped the governor of Georgia who said, 1446 01:36:57,080 --> 01:36:58,960 Speaker 1: my people were starving, we have to get back to work. 1447 01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:05,479 Speaker 1: He just did it again this morning by tweet. He 1448 01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:08,360 Speaker 1: just kneecapped somebody trying to get his people back to work. 1449 01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:17,760 Speaker 1: Learn to take the temperature of the room. America is 1450 01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:22,000 Speaker 1: not New York City. New York City. They are getting 1451 01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:25,800 Speaker 1: wiped out. They are suffering from a pandemic. It's important 1452 01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:32,000 Speaker 1: we should care. That's not all of America. My word 1453 01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:07,800 Speaker 1: joining me now to talk about, well, the devastation. I 1454 01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:09,680 Speaker 1: don't have a better way to put it, I don't 1455 01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:12,880 Speaker 1: have a sonnier way to put it either. Tyler Grant, 1456 01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:15,840 Speaker 1: he's a writer and a lawyer. You can see him 1457 01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:20,080 Speaker 1: on Fox Business and Washington Examiner. Tyler, this is a 1458 01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:23,200 Speaker 1: great piece. You have out explain what you're talking about. 1459 01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:25,800 Speaker 1: The piece is called Pandemics and power everybody. By the way, 1460 01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:27,960 Speaker 1: you can read it on Washington Examiner. Explain what you're 1461 01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:33,439 Speaker 1: talking about, pandemics and power good be with you again, 1462 01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:36,519 Speaker 1: talking Yeah. I wrote a piece in the magazine this 1463 01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:40,519 Speaker 1: week for the DC Examiner that is about how the 1464 01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:44,320 Speaker 1: Chinese One Belton Road initiative, which is this initiative that 1465 01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:47,160 Speaker 1: they've put in place in the twenty thirteen that Shi 1466 01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:50,080 Speaker 1: Jing thing has championed, which is an idea that he 1467 01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:55,000 Speaker 1: wants to connect over sixty five different countries using different 1468 01:38:55,040 --> 01:39:01,720 Speaker 1: types of infrastructure projects and resource accumulation projects. And what 1469 01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:06,280 Speaker 1: this has manifested itself in is different structured and credit 1470 01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:10,559 Speaker 1: facilities with different countries, different lenders across you know, every 1471 01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:14,439 Speaker 1: time then with the exception of our country obviously to 1472 01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:20,160 Speaker 1: acquire ports, acquire different types of roads, highways, a different 1473 01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:25,080 Speaker 1: solar panel, different types of minerals that they're hoping to acquire. 1474 01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:28,680 Speaker 1: And what my piece is basically talking about is the 1475 01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:31,280 Speaker 1: recept this global recession that we're in and we're going 1476 01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:34,560 Speaker 1: to spiral down even further than I can even imagine, 1477 01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:39,240 Speaker 1: is going to lead to our national security problems for 1478 01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:43,000 Speaker 1: a variety of reasons. The main one is is that 1479 01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:47,360 Speaker 1: when they're underlying borrowers and because of these underlying assets 1480 01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:50,880 Speaker 1: can perform on the assets. So for example, if you 1481 01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:53,120 Speaker 1: give a highway that's a toll road and people aren't 1482 01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:55,639 Speaker 1: on the road because they're told to stay home, assets 1483 01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:57,720 Speaker 1: going to underperform. And if the asset doesn't perform and 1484 01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:01,679 Speaker 1: meet certain benchmarks and project finding thing, you can't continue 1485 01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:04,519 Speaker 1: to build on the road. And then the collateral for 1486 01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:07,920 Speaker 1: the underlying credit facility is the road itself. And so 1487 01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:10,160 Speaker 1: that the Chinese decides, you know, hey, we want to 1488 01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:12,120 Speaker 1: just take over the asset, they can take over the asset, 1489 01:40:12,160 --> 01:40:14,680 Speaker 1: which is what happened in Sri Lanka. So they took 1490 01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:17,800 Speaker 1: control of a seaport on a ninety nine year lease 1491 01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:21,320 Speaker 1: with the government and a bunch of acres around it. 1492 01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:24,439 Speaker 1: And that is something that is very real world. You 1493 01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:26,720 Speaker 1: could happen to a lot of different credit facilities because 1494 01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:28,760 Speaker 1: if I'm already seen in my line of work for 1495 01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:31,680 Speaker 1: people are having to restructure their debt and lenders are 1496 01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:35,080 Speaker 1: typically pretty accommodating by saying, you know, we'll take a 1497 01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:38,599 Speaker 1: COVID break and then you know, we'll come back next 1498 01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:41,360 Speaker 1: year and maybe we'll amend and have a higher interest rate. 1499 01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:43,360 Speaker 1: And that's the way that we'll make the facility work. 1500 01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:46,320 Speaker 1: But if the lenders wanted to just say no, I'm sorry, 1501 01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:48,320 Speaker 1: like we're gonna just gonna take control of the asset, 1502 01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:51,519 Speaker 1: like they can do that in the Chinese beating the Chinese, 1503 01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:54,640 Speaker 1: there's no one, at least no early indication that they 1504 01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:56,479 Speaker 1: won't do that, because they have shown that they would 1505 01:40:56,520 --> 01:41:01,760 Speaker 1: do that. Why does China want ports? Well, I mean, 1506 01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:05,880 Speaker 1: as we saw with the trade war, as we saw 1507 01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:08,080 Speaker 1: with our own supply team problems. I mean President Trump 1508 01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:11,599 Speaker 1: goes on TV every night talking about our supply team 1509 01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:14,680 Speaker 1: problems and how different American companies during the trade war 1510 01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:17,280 Speaker 1: and had to pivot. There's supply teams because a lot 1511 01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:20,400 Speaker 1: of it is relying on the Chinese, and so that 1512 01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:23,640 Speaker 1: they had the ability to control all of those, it 1513 01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:29,200 Speaker 1: makes our alternatives, you know, significantly lower because we have 1514 01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:30,960 Speaker 1: to do with the journeys in some way, makes their 1515 01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:34,679 Speaker 1: leverage in global trade, you know, much much higher because 1516 01:41:34,720 --> 01:41:36,680 Speaker 1: a lot of these a lot of these ports and 1517 01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:39,759 Speaker 1: a lot of these uh you know, the transport vehicles, 1518 01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:42,479 Speaker 1: the transport containers, all the different ways that we get 1519 01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:45,920 Speaker 1: our stuff, you know, own all of that stuff. Their 1520 01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:48,519 Speaker 1: their bargaining position is you know, much much higher than 1521 01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:51,920 Speaker 1: our own. What's Belton Road mean? Where? Where? Where do 1522 01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:53,800 Speaker 1: they get? I've heard this before? What does that mean? 1523 01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:57,439 Speaker 1: What is this initiative? Where do it come from? So 1524 01:41:57,720 --> 01:42:01,559 Speaker 1: it came from the musclehoods, three of them A little 1525 01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:03,680 Speaker 1: I'm a little fuzz young like the actual origins of 1526 01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:06,439 Speaker 1: the name. I mean, I think the translation of it 1527 01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:09,080 Speaker 1: is something from you know, the old kind of silk 1528 01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:13,439 Speaker 1: road idea. And I'm not exactly sure where the belt 1529 01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:18,080 Speaker 1: the belt comes in, but I can, I'll belt and 1530 01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:19,680 Speaker 1: I'll send it to but uh, but yeah, I mean 1531 01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:22,439 Speaker 1: it's this idea that Cheating Pains had been. It's from 1532 01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:25,240 Speaker 1: a you know, a concept that you know, Mao had 1533 01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:27,519 Speaker 1: always had where you know, you went trying to be 1534 01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:29,840 Speaker 1: the center of the world, and the world the one 1535 01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:33,439 Speaker 1: China is where the world cons finds its gravocational pull, 1536 01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:36,519 Speaker 1: and so allowing all of the world supply lens to 1537 01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:40,000 Speaker 1: flow from China into China makes the position, you know, 1538 01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:42,800 Speaker 1: their bargaining position, not just as a global superpower, but 1539 01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:46,799 Speaker 1: as an economic superpower. I've I've been making this argument 1540 01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:49,280 Speaker 1: that people need to be a lot more worried about 1541 01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:52,840 Speaker 1: China than they are as the Western nations shoot their 1542 01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:55,760 Speaker 1: own economies in the back of the head China. That's 1543 01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:58,639 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a dream scenario for China. And people 1544 01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:02,360 Speaker 1: come back at me and say, what, China's Chinese economy 1545 01:43:02,439 --> 01:43:04,559 Speaker 1: is hurting too, Are they not hurting as bad as 1546 01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:09,840 Speaker 1: we are? Well, it's it's tough to know, because you know, 1547 01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:12,400 Speaker 1: they expelled a lot of the American journals. I think CNN, 1548 01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:15,800 Speaker 1: you know, they apologize and I think CNN got back 1549 01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:18,080 Speaker 1: in there. But you know, a lot of the Western 1550 01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:22,360 Speaker 1: reporters were outed after you know, after COVID and than 1551 01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:26,639 Speaker 1: the Foreign Minister thinking that the Trump administration was pushing false, 1552 01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:28,920 Speaker 1: a fire narratives about what was actually happening on the 1553 01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:31,080 Speaker 1: ground in China, which is, you know, it's frankly not 1554 01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:33,120 Speaker 1: true because any report that was coming out of Wulam 1555 01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:37,200 Speaker 1: was saying that it was a much more serious issue 1556 01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:40,479 Speaker 1: than what was being reported by official numbers. So but 1557 01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:43,439 Speaker 1: I don't again, like you I've had this discussion before, 1558 01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:49,720 Speaker 1: I don't understand Western journalists desire to, you know, in 1559 01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:51,880 Speaker 1: any way make it seem as if the Chinese or 1560 01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:55,200 Speaker 1: are doing you know, well, are doing humanitarian efforts in 1561 01:43:55,320 --> 01:43:58,479 Speaker 1: order to like you know, they like they caused this. 1562 01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:02,080 Speaker 1: This is what this is correctly from China. It's originated 1563 01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:04,720 Speaker 1: in China, and I don't know why we choose to 1564 01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:07,720 Speaker 1: uncover for them. I mean, as we've discussed before, I mean, 1565 01:44:07,720 --> 01:44:11,320 Speaker 1: they're underlying economic problems. We're already tremendous and then have 1566 01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:13,960 Speaker 1: a huge population. They have a tough time getting everybody 1567 01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:16,439 Speaker 1: to work. Their infrastructure projects are one way of which 1568 01:44:16,479 --> 01:44:20,320 Speaker 1: they were offshoring some of their labor by sending Chinese 1569 01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:22,479 Speaker 1: nationals to Africa and different parts of the world to 1570 01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:26,320 Speaker 1: participate in these infrastructure projects. Obviously, with work gone to zero, 1571 01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:28,240 Speaker 1: I mean some of that is some of that is 1572 01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:32,360 Speaker 1: frustrated and unstore with their their ability to really manage 1573 01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:36,519 Speaker 1: their own population. You know, it's much better than than 1574 01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:40,000 Speaker 1: it is, you know, outside of what you've seen. Just 1575 01:44:40,120 --> 01:44:42,360 Speaker 1: be like stay at home for fourteen days, which is 1576 01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:44,519 Speaker 1: what they did because the whole country for that the 1577 01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:46,719 Speaker 1: whole country, but the whole whole and proviments stayed inside 1578 01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:49,560 Speaker 1: in their own apartments homes for fourteen days and the 1579 01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:51,720 Speaker 1: government delivered them food and pulled them out of their 1580 01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:55,160 Speaker 1: their house, department whatever if they had any symptoms on 1581 01:44:55,320 --> 01:44:58,040 Speaker 1: daily checks that the government would come and do, so 1582 01:44:58,280 --> 01:45:00,920 Speaker 1: we just don't have that ability. So I'm sure they're 1583 01:45:01,160 --> 01:45:04,000 Speaker 1: they're handling now is probably a little better than how 1584 01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:07,120 Speaker 1: we handle it, and they'll slowly come out of their recovery. 1585 01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:12,800 Speaker 1: But they already had fundamental functioning economic problems before all 1586 01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:15,280 Speaker 1: of this, with you know how looming housing crisis. They 1587 01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:18,719 Speaker 1: just falsify their numbers and reports, and you know, American 1588 01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:21,240 Speaker 1: investors are willing to go with those numbers because you know, 1589 01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:24,639 Speaker 1: they're beholding the shareholders or investors and thinking that those 1590 01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:28,320 Speaker 1: numbers are good. When when the underlying assets ultimately have 1591 01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:31,160 Speaker 1: to fail or someone comes in and inspects and values 1592 01:45:31,240 --> 01:45:33,479 Speaker 1: those assets and realizing is that they're worth nothing. These 1593 01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:35,760 Speaker 1: financial instruments are going to be like I mean, they're 1594 01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:38,360 Speaker 1: going to be valueless. So I mean that that day 1595 01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:41,120 Speaker 1: will come. It just it just depends on when they 1596 01:45:41,160 --> 01:45:43,400 Speaker 1: stop lying to us and the fact that we continue 1597 01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:45,960 Speaker 1: to go in bed with you know, the Chinese government 1598 01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:49,240 Speaker 1: and the CCP, who is more than excited to you know, 1599 01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:54,040 Speaker 1: dupe American journalists. I just don't understand. We've only got 1600 01:45:54,040 --> 01:45:56,240 Speaker 1: about a minute left here, Tyler, but we just passed, 1601 01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:59,439 Speaker 1: or we're about to pass a new five hundred billion 1602 01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:03,080 Speaker 1: dollars stimulus bill. Can we print our money to get 1603 01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:07,439 Speaker 1: out of this whole mess? You know, I just I 1604 01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:11,599 Speaker 1: guess it helps with the value of the dollar being 1605 01:46:11,680 --> 01:46:14,800 Speaker 1: what it is. But at a certain point, I don't 1606 01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:19,880 Speaker 1: know where the market doesn't reassess this, and we go 1607 01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:23,479 Speaker 1: into a hyper inflation scenario and the dollar relative to 1608 01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:25,599 Speaker 1: the rest of the world. The rest of the world 1609 01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:27,639 Speaker 1: pull out of this faster and they can go back 1610 01:46:27,680 --> 01:46:29,720 Speaker 1: to work. I don't know how our dollar doesn't just 1611 01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:32,479 Speaker 1: pluming to be worth nothing. Not to mention the socio 1612 01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:36,240 Speaker 1: economic impacts where you know, you know, guys like us, 1613 01:46:36,280 --> 01:46:38,240 Speaker 1: we you know, we think about these things for you know, 1614 01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:41,000 Speaker 1: partially for a living. I mean the people the guy 1615 01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:43,880 Speaker 1: that goes to work every day and waste tables. I 1616 01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:46,280 Speaker 1: don't know how he's not like, well, if you guys 1617 01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:48,439 Speaker 1: can just give me fifteen hundred dollars a month, why 1618 01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:50,400 Speaker 1: don't you just give me fifteen hundred dollars a month. 1619 01:46:50,439 --> 01:46:52,200 Speaker 1: I know, I'll just be a painter or something. I 1620 01:46:52,280 --> 01:46:54,559 Speaker 1: don't but I don't know how you put that idea 1621 01:46:54,640 --> 01:46:56,559 Speaker 1: back in the box after you've pulled it out, Because 1622 01:46:56,560 --> 01:46:58,280 Speaker 1: if you know, the people that are looking at this like, well, 1623 01:46:58,400 --> 01:46:59,840 Speaker 1: what the government's always been able to do this? Like 1624 01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:01,760 Speaker 1: guys like Andrew Yang, How is that guy not a 1625 01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:04,680 Speaker 1: crazy person? And was you know, actually on the nose here? 1626 01:47:05,320 --> 01:47:10,800 Speaker 1: You know, we'll see, oh Tyler go raid his stuff 1627 01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:14,760 Speaker 1: in the Washington Examiner. I appreciate you, my friend, very much. Yeah, 1628 01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:20,760 Speaker 1: it sounds good. Sucky sin, Chris. There's anything I love 1629 01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:28,360 Speaker 1: in this life. It's being right except for this time. Anga. 1630 01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:37,360 Speaker 1: Oh God on that him on inside of me? Yes, yes, Kelly, 1631 01:47:37,840 --> 01:48:05,240 Speaker 1: don't listening to the Jesse Kelly show. I said this 1632 01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:13,320 Speaker 1: last month, March twenty eight. It's written down, it's recorded. 1633 01:48:13,360 --> 01:48:22,439 Speaker 1: You can go. Look. As I was trying trying to 1634 01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:27,640 Speaker 1: sound the alarm on the economic damage, it's doing the 1635 01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:33,280 Speaker 1: best I could. I tried to explain to everybody because 1636 01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:37,040 Speaker 1: it's easy to have it's easy to get trapped in 1637 01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:43,679 Speaker 1: a disconnect. It's easy to separate yourself from everything, from 1638 01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:46,200 Speaker 1: from whatever the major news is of the day. But 1639 01:48:46,320 --> 01:48:47,960 Speaker 1: what if I were to get on here every single 1640 01:48:48,040 --> 01:48:52,960 Speaker 1: day and talk about Iran for three hours? I bring 1641 01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:55,040 Speaker 1: up you right now, and then every now and then 1642 01:48:55,080 --> 01:49:00,160 Speaker 1: they do something interesting, but you would tune out, and 1643 01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:02,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't blame you for tuning out, And you know 1644 01:49:02,240 --> 01:49:05,280 Speaker 1: why you would tune out, because that doesn't affect you. 1645 01:49:09,320 --> 01:49:13,599 Speaker 1: You can't connect it to you, to place you'll never visit. 1646 01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:17,880 Speaker 1: It's a place you'll go a week or two without 1647 01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:21,040 Speaker 1: the name even entering your mind unless it pops up 1648 01:49:21,080 --> 01:49:25,880 Speaker 1: on social media or something. So I don't don't talk 1649 01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:29,560 Speaker 1: about it. A lot doesn't affect me. And when this 1650 01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:39,880 Speaker 1: virus broke out and lockdowns, shutting things down became, you know, 1651 01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:44,720 Speaker 1: something that we were doing as a nation, which mortified me. 1652 01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:47,800 Speaker 1: But we were doing these shutdowns and we're gonna shut this, 1653 01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:49,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna shut that, and you can't open, and you 1654 01:49:49,800 --> 01:49:51,800 Speaker 1: can't open, and that this is an order, and you 1655 01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:54,120 Speaker 1: you know, get off that paddle board and all these 1656 01:49:54,160 --> 01:49:57,800 Speaker 1: other things, these insane things you were doing. Part of 1657 01:49:57,840 --> 01:50:04,240 Speaker 1: the alarm I was sounding was you are going to 1658 01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:13,800 Speaker 1: feel this, not the company next door, not New York, 1659 01:50:14,520 --> 01:50:18,040 Speaker 1: not DC, not LA, not that other state over there, 1660 01:50:18,680 --> 01:50:23,920 Speaker 1: not that other town over there. You personally, you are 1661 01:50:24,080 --> 01:50:28,519 Speaker 1: going to feel this, and it's going to hurt. And 1662 01:50:28,720 --> 01:50:33,519 Speaker 1: just because it hasn't touched you yet, that doesn't mean 1663 01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:38,880 Speaker 1: it's not coming. When you take a twenty trillion dollar economy, 1664 01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:45,000 Speaker 1: and you slam it into a wall, everyone will feel it. 1665 01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:50,120 Speaker 1: And I tried to get the point across that you 1666 01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:53,360 Speaker 1: need to be taking this the shutdowns, not the virus, 1667 01:50:53,600 --> 01:50:57,920 Speaker 1: the shutdowns a lot more personally than you think you should, 1668 01:50:58,280 --> 01:51:02,559 Speaker 1: because it's coming for you. It's coming for you. It's 1669 01:51:02,640 --> 01:51:05,000 Speaker 1: coming for the things that you care about. It is, 1670 01:51:06,439 --> 01:51:14,760 Speaker 1: it is, and it's coming. New headline out today, Meet 1671 01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:21,120 Speaker 1: shortages are coming. Why would MEET shortages come, Jesse, I 1672 01:51:21,200 --> 01:51:25,240 Speaker 1: don't understand that the restaurants are open, the grocery stores 1673 01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:36,440 Speaker 1: are selling. Hotels have restaurants too, post bars have restaurants 1674 01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:41,080 Speaker 1: too close that restaurant of yours, that's well, I don't 1675 01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:46,320 Speaker 1: understand they're still doing take out. You understand this that 1676 01:51:46,479 --> 01:51:49,639 Speaker 1: a restaurant in general runs on five to ten percent 1677 01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:54,080 Speaker 1: profit margins. A restaurant, a smart one, one that's going 1678 01:51:54,160 --> 01:51:58,280 Speaker 1: to last, will actually they track this stuff. They will 1679 01:51:58,360 --> 01:52:04,200 Speaker 1: actually track how much silverware they use because or lose, 1680 01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:06,840 Speaker 1: I should say, because the profit margins are that close. 1681 01:52:08,080 --> 01:52:11,240 Speaker 1: Restaurants are not made of money. There's not some magic 1682 01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:14,320 Speaker 1: ferry in the back just handing out food and supplies. 1683 01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:22,559 Speaker 1: They run on profit margins. A restaurant plans for running 1684 01:52:22,720 --> 01:52:27,120 Speaker 1: at capacity, especially during peak times, and needs it. You know, 1685 01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:30,400 Speaker 1: a restaurant may make sixty percent of its profit on 1686 01:52:30,520 --> 01:52:34,000 Speaker 1: a Friday and Saturday night. They know, okay, well, I 1687 01:52:34,439 --> 01:52:37,000 Speaker 1: am Joe's Mexican Food. I have to be full on 1688 01:52:37,160 --> 01:52:39,640 Speaker 1: Friday and Saturday night and that alone will get me 1689 01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:41,519 Speaker 1: enough to that I make a profit at the end. 1690 01:52:41,560 --> 01:52:46,960 Speaker 1: That's how restaurants run. Just because your restaurants are still 1691 01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:52,559 Speaker 1: open doing takeout, they're making a fraction of what they 1692 01:52:52,680 --> 01:52:58,120 Speaker 1: used to make. They're simply trying, all of them. They're 1693 01:52:58,240 --> 01:53:01,439 Speaker 1: trying to keep the lights on until they're allowed to 1694 01:53:01,560 --> 01:53:04,880 Speaker 1: open again. And even then, if you tell them they 1695 01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:07,360 Speaker 1: have to take away half the tables in their restaurant, 1696 01:53:09,720 --> 01:53:15,880 Speaker 1: they might be done. That's reality. And I told you 1697 01:53:16,760 --> 01:53:25,120 Speaker 1: a month ago. Your church, your synagogue, it's gonna feel 1698 01:53:25,160 --> 01:53:30,080 Speaker 1: it and it might be going away. Jesse, that's just 1699 01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:34,519 Speaker 1: fear buggering. You can't. How does your church stay open, buddy? 1700 01:53:36,640 --> 01:53:41,200 Speaker 1: Your church stays open by your tithing. What aren't you 1701 01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:43,639 Speaker 1: doing as much of now? You're not going to church, 1702 01:53:45,200 --> 01:53:50,000 Speaker 1: even if you're doing it online. How's your income you're 1703 01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:52,920 Speaker 1: tithing what you used to churches run on budgets too. 1704 01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:55,120 Speaker 1: We know we're gonna make this this Sunday and this 1705 01:53:55,280 --> 01:54:01,000 Speaker 1: this Sunday, and it's gone. That church building oneen free either. 1706 01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:09,120 Speaker 1: Start letting the president know now that he needs he 1707 01:54:09,240 --> 01:54:14,360 Speaker 1: needs to stop encouraging these shutdowns or virus or no virus. 1708 01:54:16,880 --> 01:54:46,040 Speaker 1: It's coming for you. Start letting your voice be heard. 1709 01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:51,360 Speaker 1: The President of the United States is all over social media. 1710 01:54:51,520 --> 01:54:55,480 Speaker 1: He exists on Twitter. He is there. We know for 1711 01:54:55,600 --> 01:54:58,040 Speaker 1: a fact. Don't ask me how I know. I just 1712 01:54:58,280 --> 01:55:01,840 Speaker 1: know he reads it. He reads a lot of the 1713 01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:05,880 Speaker 1: things you say. For the first time in your lifetime, 1714 01:55:06,400 --> 01:55:11,080 Speaker 1: you you personally have access to the President of the 1715 01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:18,120 Speaker 1: United States of America. Let him know he needs to know. 1716 01:55:18,560 --> 01:55:21,000 Speaker 1: If you missed any part of the show today, any 1717 01:55:21,120 --> 01:55:24,360 Speaker 1: part at all. The whole show will be available on iHeart, 1718 01:55:24,680 --> 01:55:28,640 Speaker 1: on Google, on Spotify, It's on Apple. I think you 1719 01:55:28,720 --> 01:55:31,400 Speaker 1: can subscribe on Apple, can't you, Chris, go ahead and 1720 01:55:31,520 --> 01:55:33,960 Speaker 1: hit subscribe to it, then you automatically get it all. 1721 01:55:35,080 --> 01:55:39,000 Speaker 1: You be safe this weekend. If you have any criticisms, 1722 01:55:39,160 --> 01:55:41,120 Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm just kidding. You can send him 1723 01:55:41,160 --> 01:55:44,560 Speaker 1: if you have any compliments, criticism, suggestions, History Store you'd 1724 01:55:44,600 --> 01:55:46,720 Speaker 1: like to hear, that's fine too. You can email me. 1725 01:55:46,840 --> 01:55:50,640 Speaker 1: I read them all Jesse at Jesse Kelly Show dot com. 1726 01:55:51,120 --> 01:55:56,440 Speaker 1: It's Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. You'll enjoy your weekend, 1727 01:55:57,000 --> 01:55:59,200 Speaker 1: keep on churning and burning. Will do it again Monday. 1728 01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:31,520 Speaker 1: That's all. This is a Jesse Kelly Show. You don't 1729 01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:34,920 Speaker 1: have to dip forever. You know that right. You don't 1730 01:56:34,960 --> 01:56:37,680 Speaker 1: have to smoke forever. And the reason I say it 1731 01:56:37,800 --> 01:56:41,040 Speaker 1: like that is I have been that guy. I've been 1732 01:56:41,120 --> 01:56:43,680 Speaker 1: that guy. I dipped for so long, and what would 1733 01:56:43,680 --> 01:56:45,720 Speaker 1: happen is I would decide I'm gonna quit. It's bad 1734 01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:47,760 Speaker 1: for me. I'm gonna quit. 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