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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. And

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Speaker 1: welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: It is a Monday, and what an eventful weekend we've

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Speaker 1: had here, Matt. Uh, the Senior Bowl wrapping up by

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Speaker 1: last week. The Steelers set the higher Terrell Austin as

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Speaker 1: their defensive coordinator. No surprise there. Uh. They wrapped up

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Speaker 1: some uh some GM interviews last week as well while

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Speaker 1: they were at the Senior Bowl. Uh. Should make some

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Speaker 1: coaching hires here so start the coaching assistant coaching hire

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Speaker 1: should start to heat up as well. So a lot

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Speaker 1: to talk about, Yeah, I lot to talk about. It.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like you had a successful trip in Mobile. Getting

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Speaker 1: home was a little bit of a issue for you though.

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Speaker 1: How how did you how'd you like your first Senior

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Speaker 1: Bowl experience? You know, traveling the side it was it

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Speaker 1: was and it was good to see all those all

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Speaker 1: the players on the same field and get an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to to kind of get to to to see, you know,

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Speaker 1: to to watch guys next to each other, uh and

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Speaker 1: work against you know, similar people and you know get

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Speaker 1: the first opportunity in some cases to interview some of

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Speaker 1: these guys as well and hear them talk and you know,

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Speaker 1: get learned a little bit more about their life stories

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Speaker 1: and those kind of things. So again, much like it

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Speaker 1: is for the teams, that's that's as as important as

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Speaker 1: everything that they do down there. People always ask me,

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Speaker 1: met and maybe you could explain this better. You know,

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Speaker 1: I kept saying that the practices last week, the days

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Speaker 1: leading up to the game were more important in the

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Speaker 1: game itself. Um, why is that? Well, I mean to

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Speaker 1: kind of pull back the curtain. I mean, like the

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Speaker 1: scouts and gms and coaches, they all fly in the

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Speaker 1: night before the way in and and they've changed the

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Speaker 1: schedule around a little bit a little more efficient now,

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you. They watched the way in

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Speaker 1: and all that, and they start doing stuff behind the scenes,

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Speaker 1: and then there's three full days of practice and then

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Speaker 1: after that Thursday practice. With how it's set up now,

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Speaker 1: the Mobile airport is just loaded with NFL people leaving.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're all getting out of Mobile because Fridays

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Speaker 1: to walk through. Saturday is a game. But they're gonna

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Speaker 1: watch the coach's tape of the game. They don't have

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Speaker 1: to get that game experience. So they can get home

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Speaker 1: two days earlier, start writing more reports and things that

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Speaker 1: they saw, organizing their thoughts, you know, the adding it

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Speaker 1: to already existing reports. But the practices are set up

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Speaker 1: not to make these teams the best day can be

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Speaker 1: on game day on Saturday. It's more let's show things

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Speaker 1: to the scouts because you know, we want to dissimilate

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Speaker 1: between all the quarterbacks here, all the corners, and um,

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Speaker 1: you want to see practice to practice. As he's gotten

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Speaker 1: better throughout the week. I mean, everyone realizes it's easy

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Speaker 1: to overlook, but the beginning of the week is it's

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Speaker 1: really hard on these guys, I mean especially the quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: And you know, this receiver runs around two yards shorter

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Speaker 1: than he should. I didn't know that. I just met

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Speaker 1: and everyone thinks I'm missing my open guy. You know

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Speaker 1: a lot of that kind of stuff. So this week,

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Speaker 1: this year, in particular, you'd speak this better than me.

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Speaker 1: Tuesday is everyone getting to know each other day. And

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Speaker 1: but it's a real practice and there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: energy in the room and you know, people are getting

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Speaker 1: to understand what's expected of them as prospects. And then

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Speaker 1: Wednesday was a big time rain storm, but they practiced

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Speaker 1: outside anyway, and some handled that better than others. And

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Speaker 1: of course everyone will focus on the quarterbacks there. And

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Speaker 1: how they all handle it. Yeah, And in the meantime,

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Speaker 1: not avoiding the question. It's just it was again, the

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Speaker 1: games get a little sloppy at times, and everyone knows that. Again,

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Speaker 1: that's why the practices are more important eleven on eleven

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Speaker 1: do think you know Willis is a runner. Certainly standard

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Speaker 1: know Kenny Pickett went six or six for eighty nine

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Speaker 1: you know he underthrew that that deep ball to Christian Watson. UM.

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Speaker 1: But that was a completely blown coverage and it was

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Speaker 1: supposed to be a corner route and pick Pickt talked

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Speaker 1: So it was you know, they were both kind of

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Speaker 1: quarterback who had probably thrown fifteen passes to each other

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Speaker 1: four for eleven yards throwing the football. I would have

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Speaker 1: they they four throws. Yeah, he got four opportunities. Well,

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Speaker 1: but that's a little you know again that the games

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You know? So again, the

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Speaker 1: to him. I think his stock is rising. Um. A

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Speaker 1: charting them, his moles per hour as a runner was very,

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Speaker 1: doing that. But my point is he has immense tools. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: a seven round Steeler centric mock um. And it's tough

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Speaker 1: the comp picks will come out. Steelers are are projective

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Speaker 1: six round pick that they got from Melvin Ingram. Oh

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Speaker 1: the league will come out here, you know, within the

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Speaker 1: and a lot of well, fans they to understand too.

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Speaker 1: my thoughts very well change on all these guys, including Strong,

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Speaker 1: But I'm not sure Strong from a Steeler perspective gets

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Speaker 1: me far enough past Rudolph to make taking an alignment

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Speaker 1: with that pick or even in the second round, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean? No, I agree, I agree, and

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Speaker 1: well zappy, um, well he does some nice things. I

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Speaker 1: he didn't change my opinion. He's he his career backup

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Speaker 1: written all over him. I bet he lasts a long

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Speaker 1: time and last a long time. It seems like a

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Speaker 1: smart kid gets it and knows what he is, doesn't

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Speaker 1: try to to be something that he's not. But yeah, um,

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Speaker 1: if he turns into Gardner minshew, he should be happy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And whatever team drafts him, if they take

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Speaker 1: him in the you know, it's this is the thing.

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Speaker 1: If you knew, like, for example, if the Jaguars knew

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Speaker 1: that Gardner Minshew was going to be Gardner Minshew, they

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Speaker 1: would they would have drafted him in the second, a

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Speaker 1: third round. They wouldn't have waited what was the a

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Speaker 1: six round draft pick, They wouldn't have waited maybe a

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Speaker 1: first round or if he came out. Now, if you know,

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Speaker 1: everybody says, well that you know the Patriots got Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady in the sixth round. Well look if the if

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Speaker 1: the Patriots and new Tom Brady was gonna be tom Brady,

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Speaker 1: he would have went number one overall. Of course, right,

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Speaker 1: you just don't know, screwed up, you know, it's really

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Speaker 1: the way to look at that, and then they locked

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Speaker 1: into him. The other thing too, about quarterbacks and not

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Speaker 1: everyone thinks about is what is there eight the twelve

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Speaker 1: teams that aren't going to take a quarterback and they

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Speaker 1: know that when the when the uh draft starts, you

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Speaker 1: know that their plan is, we got in our rooms full,

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Speaker 1: we're not in that market unless a first round guy

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Speaker 1: So once you fall, there's not as many spots. It's

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Speaker 1: like starting centers, like there's only thirty two and kickers,

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Speaker 1: you know, called us. We're not gonna just take one

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Speaker 1: like an offensive lineman. Or the year Washington took two

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Speaker 1: when they took they took yeah, Griffin and Cousins. Nobody

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Speaker 1: does that. Nobody does that. Actually, the Niners took to

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Speaker 1: the Brady year, they took Rite and car Mozzi. So

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Speaker 1: not only they passed on Brady, but they passed on twice. Right,

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Speaker 1: So anyways, we're gonna take a break. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lally. You're listening to the Drive here on

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