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Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross, Welcome
Speaker 1: to the show the s WBC Mortgage living Room in Frisco, Texas.
Speaker 1: Shan and Gross, Jesse, Holly, Nate new Yeah, Daniels, we
Speaker 1: are going to get into a little Cowboys defense, Seahawks offense,
Speaker 1: and a lot of other things. But before we get started, Jesse,
Speaker 1: you smell good, super Jesse. Let's get into Cowboys. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. Let's let's talk a little bit about about
Speaker 1: what we talked about before the show started off the air.
Speaker 1: Does anyone does anyone want to elaborate? Now? You want
Speaker 1: to elaborate? Or should we let Jesse? What happened? Jesse?
Speaker 1: You're sitting here getting ready to we try to prep
Speaker 1: for the show, Jesse, because us off it said, fellas,
Speaker 1: I put on cologne every morning, and for the last
Speaker 1: few years of months, everybody has told me how great
Speaker 1: I smelled, and I'm like, I feel like I'm wasting
Speaker 1: money putting on my But then I realized we're in
Speaker 1: a pandemic and no one can smell me, right, I'm like,
Speaker 1: do we really want to hear somebody talk? I was
Speaker 1: giving y'all. I was giving you all information so that
Speaker 1: you don't make the same mistakes that I made and
Speaker 1: waste your cologne and no one can smell it. Because
Speaker 1: that's what that's the relasion that I came with this morning.
Speaker 1: As I get ready every single morning, my finishing touches
Speaker 1: is a splash of cologne, right, whether it's Burberry or
Speaker 1: Jean Paul Boutier or ye yeah, that JPP. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I normally get compliments on how well I smell, and
Speaker 1: I have not been getting compliments on how well I smell.
Speaker 1: And I was like, man, that's that's odd. I usually
Speaker 1: hear compliments on how well I well I smell, and
Speaker 1: then it don't on me this morning that the reason
Speaker 1: why I have not been getting compliments is everybody is
Speaker 1: in mask and nobody can smell me. So I've been
Speaker 1: wasting my time and my pretty expensive cologne, only satisfying
Speaker 1: myself because I'm the only one that knows what it
Speaker 1: really smells like because I put it on with no
Speaker 1: mask one, but nobody else can smell it. And n
Speaker 1: Nate ranked Nate raked it, Shannon's analogy of the of
Speaker 1: the of the stadium on Sunday one A, his analogy,
Speaker 1: his his analogy of the uh locker room day, and
Speaker 1: Jesse smelling himself one see, but I wasn't going to
Speaker 1: share mine live on air it Shanny. You know what,
Speaker 1: even if we can ring, even in that weathers that
Speaker 1: rank with Rowdy would do things for money. Rowdy blows
Speaker 1: everybody out of the water because he will do stuff
Speaker 1: for money. All it fels you know what? Else is
Speaker 1: starting to smell this secondary man? Yesterday the injury report
Speaker 1: out of nowhere, Diggs popped up with a did not
Speaker 1: practice with a injured shoulder. So now you've got Anthony
Speaker 1: Brown on the ir cheeto out for a few weeks.
Speaker 1: You got Diggs miss practice yesterday. Don't know the severity
Speaker 1: of that. Haven't really heard anything. Don't know if you
Speaker 1: guys have heard anything. So does that make Brandon car
Speaker 1: Does that put him in the mix? Like, what where
Speaker 1: do we go with this? What's going to happen in
Speaker 1: the secondary this weekend. For what I'm hearing is that
Speaker 1: if I think Digs will still go, I think he
Speaker 1: just you know, a little little little banged up a little.
Speaker 1: You know, he's still a young player. He has to
Speaker 1: still realize that, you know, those guys that you're running
Speaker 1: up against. And I think it happened on one play
Speaker 1: where the left tackle Matthews came out and got him.
Speaker 1: He went low to kind of break a play up,
Speaker 1: and it looked like he kind of drove his shoulder
Speaker 1: into the ground. But it's just a little bumping bruise.
Speaker 1: His legs still work, his knees still work, his feet
Speaker 1: still work. So we just need you to cover. We
Speaker 1: don't need you to really, really, really really to have
Speaker 1: a good shoulder. We just need you to be able
Speaker 1: to stay in front of some of these sub four
Speaker 1: four receiver that they got running around there. That's all
Speaker 1: we really need. But that means that you'll probably bring
Speaker 1: Brandon Carr up, move him back to safety. Didn't have
Speaker 1: worldly come down to play some outside corner and then
Speaker 1: slide Jordan Lewis to the inside and playing some slot.
Speaker 1: The thing is that you just can't have another guy
Speaker 1: go down during the game, because that's gonna put you
Speaker 1: in a very tough situation. You'd rather have world mancalf
Speaker 1: and more. Let's get healthy, dude. They those guys can run.
Speaker 1: Is this setting you know? Wait? Wait wait wait Shan
Speaker 1: wait Shandon, wait wait wait wait Nate, do you have
Speaker 1: any other remedies that you can pull out for a shoulder?
Speaker 1: Was the tower last week? What do you? What do you?
Speaker 1: What do you have for us this week? Is it
Speaker 1: is something else that you want to you know, old sock,
Speaker 1: maybe some dusty draws? Did you do you put the draws?
Speaker 1: Do you put the drag around and shoulder blade? Put
Speaker 1: the bag of beanings in the microwave? Yeah? Man, get
Speaker 1: you a little bit of venicle man and uh and
Speaker 1: a big thick fan pm PM. No. We don't want
Speaker 1: them sleep, We want them away, them away. Ain't this
Speaker 1: an evening game? We want we want them to wait wait,
Speaker 1: we want them to wait am and let them sleep
Speaker 1: over overnight with that right now, with that uh raw
Speaker 1: to draw that pain out of that show. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what you need, Chris, Chris beeB just let me know that.
Speaker 1: On an interview with Dallas Cowboys Dot com Earlier, Nick
Speaker 1: Eatman um with Nick Eatman, Stephen Jones said car will
Speaker 1: be playing cornerback. So go to Dallas Cowboys dot com
Speaker 1: to see that full interview. That's interesting. So is this
Speaker 1: game setting up because the guys on Seattle can run?
Speaker 1: Seattle is giving up the most ten plus yard plays
Speaker 1: in the league. We know our guys can run. Is
Speaker 1: this just setting up just to be attract meet this weekend?
Speaker 1: With all these injuries? How do you combat that or
Speaker 1: do you just try to slug it out? That's what
Speaker 1: Vegas says. Vegas has the over at what fifty five points?
Speaker 1: It's fifty five something like that, So Vegas think this
Speaker 1: is gonna be a shootout. Vegas think that somebody's gonna
Speaker 1: score points in this game because when you look at it,
Speaker 1: neither one of them really having good defense, Cowboys or Seattle.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be heavily reliant on what you can do
Speaker 1: with your quarterbacks and your playmakers. This this game will
Speaker 1: be one of those games that might be like one
Speaker 1: of those you know, uh, instant replay games, because they're
Speaker 1: gonna score. They're gonna score some points in this game.
Speaker 1: That's McCarty's gonna be funny to watch. I just hope
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys can be consistent, because Seahawks are very
Speaker 1: consistent there with especially in the third quarter. In the
Speaker 1: last two third quarters in the last two games, they
Speaker 1: they've averaged fourteen points in those quarters. They're either even
Speaker 1: with the team liveing ahead, a little bit behind. But
Speaker 1: when the fourth quarter, I mean when the third quarter comes,
Speaker 1: they have they have exploded for fourteen points in each game.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun to watch. Man. And as this
Speaker 1: season go on and they get used to mccartthon the
Speaker 1: way he does things, maybe they can settle down defensively
Speaker 1: and be a little bit more consistent in how they play. Kurt,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what's consistent. I think we can't hear
Speaker 1: Kurt right now. Kurt might be having some technical issues,
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you what is consistent this early in
Speaker 1: the season. That's Russell Wilson in the red zone. Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson in the red zone is eight for eight for
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty five eighty eight yards and not one,
Speaker 1: not two, not three, not four, but five touchdowns. That's
Speaker 1: five touchdowns in two games in the red zone. That
Speaker 1: tells me that they're not getting into the red zone
Speaker 1: and settling. They're getting into the red zone. And you
Speaker 1: said this time and time again, we need touchdowns, we
Speaker 1: need seven because when when Russell Wilson and this unit
Speaker 1: gets into the red zone and the early in this
Speaker 1: season they are cashing in, they are getting touched downs.
Speaker 1: So if the Cowboys think that you can get into
Speaker 1: the red zone and all of a sudden, keep coming
Speaker 1: away with three, keep coming away with three. Early studies
Speaker 1: have shown what with Seattle Seahawks, when they get in
Speaker 1: the red zone, they get active. And you know another thing,
Speaker 1: Shannon Curtain, you guys, Jesse, is they are looking to
Speaker 1: slow the game down. They don't want a hot Temple
Speaker 1: game like we would ask it for Dad. They have
Speaker 1: averaged less than sixty snaps a game. They they are
Speaker 1: walking into the huddle, walking out of the huddle, and
Speaker 1: they're executing. They're not trying to beat you at an
Speaker 1: up temple and get you tired. They want to physically
Speaker 1: maul you with Carson and Hide, and then they want
Speaker 1: to over the top you with DJ metcal More and
Speaker 1: locket as yours your intermediate Guida. They have a nice
Speaker 1: little program going in and like you say on defense,
Speaker 1: they're just trying to hang in there and make a play,
Speaker 1: get a turnover. Give Russell Wilson. It's all about Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: Give him an extra extra pocession or two perhaps, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And they don't really have a stud receiver. They just
Speaker 1: got three really pretty even good fast guys. How do
Speaker 1: you do you change your defense because usually you can
Speaker 1: key on one guy. When you got three dudes that
Speaker 1: are equally as talented, does that change the way you
Speaker 1: scheme up? Do you do something different normally than you
Speaker 1: would on defense? You play the percentages, you play the precisions,
Speaker 1: you played it down in distance, and you go back
Speaker 1: and your your players have to do a lot of
Speaker 1: work and understanding what they're percentages. But decentes an early season,
Speaker 1: you don't know. We see Metcalf being nice, but we
Speaker 1: know lock It. Locket is this guy when things get
Speaker 1: when he needed to keep the ball moving and keep
Speaker 1: a drive. He looking at sixteen Locke. He's looking for
Speaker 1: that guy. He's depending on Carson. Chris Carson is having
Speaker 1: a nice year running and passing, and then Carlo High,
Speaker 1: Carlos High coming in and punch you, punch you, and
Speaker 1: they got another running back twenty five. He's pretty nice.
Speaker 1: Stupid Travis Homer, But I'm telling you that Carson kid,
Speaker 1: if he stays healthy, he's doing some things, man, And
Speaker 1: they're letting what you stay other day and let him
Speaker 1: let him cook, Let let let Russ cook. Bro he
Speaker 1: bringing an entree to the table every time. My friend
Speaker 1: three forks style. And the point to you making Nate
Speaker 1: I believe like he'll lock it. They have like a
Speaker 1: seventy percent completing percentage when he goes to lock it
Speaker 1: is you're talking about and then this league seventy percent.
Speaker 1: If you're seventy percent successful at anything except kicking in
Speaker 1: this league, you're having a damn good time. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: so if they're they're they're talking about completing the passage
Speaker 1: to one another at a seventy percent succession rate, that
Speaker 1: tells you that that's a guy he's going to be
Speaker 1: looking for. And they all have the speed to take
Speaker 1: the top off you know, your defense. But but Lockett
Speaker 1: is that intermediate. You're gonna see a lot of those
Speaker 1: routes where Lockets running those deep overs where basically if
Speaker 1: you give him enough time and Russell finds it because
Speaker 1: he can scramble in the pocket, he can move and
Speaker 1: Locket just can beat you across the formation. I can
Speaker 1: beat you fifty something yards across that field, and let
Speaker 1: Russell just lay one out there. But it's going to
Speaker 1: start up front. They're gonna try to come out and
Speaker 1: establish the run with Carlos Hodd, with Chris Carson, and
Speaker 1: like I said earlier, you have to commit to stopping
Speaker 1: one of them. You can't give them a two way go.
Speaker 1: You can't say, well, you can have a high complice
Speaker 1: of percentage you know, down the field and you can
Speaker 1: run the ball at five six seven yards a clip.
Speaker 1: You can't have both of these things to be successful.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to say, all right, if we're gonna
Speaker 1: be in the shootout, then we're gonna be in the shootout.
Speaker 1: But what we're not gonna do is be in a
Speaker 1: shootout and allow you to run the ball successfully as well.
Speaker 1: So I think selling out to stop the run and
Speaker 1: containing Russell Wilson, that's the biggest thing is containing Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson because the backbreaker for him is is when you've
Speaker 1: done everything right, you've done everything right, and you've been
Speaker 1: in your zones and your gaps guys are covering. Communication
Speaker 1: was done, and you let him get loose. That is
Speaker 1: a backbreaker. That is a soul crusher, as when he
Speaker 1: tucks it and all of a sudden, now he makes
Speaker 1: that one guy miss and he sprints for seventeen yards
Speaker 1: in the first down, or he gets out of the pocket,
Speaker 1: gets elusive and a guy steps up and he drops
Speaker 1: off over behind the back, behind your head for a
Speaker 1: big game, to keep the drive alive. Those things are
Speaker 1: backbreakers to a defense, and Russell Wilson has been doing
Speaker 1: that two countless defenses four years. You gotta contain the run,
Speaker 1: and you have to contain Russell Wilson. That Kurt Way, Kurt,
Speaker 1: you're back. I don't know what's going on here. You're back.
Speaker 1: You know what. We know what they have, We know
Speaker 1: what they have to do, But do they have the
Speaker 1: players to do it. I'll tell you like this, Yes,
Speaker 1: these guys have not been rushing great in these first
Speaker 1: two games. I told about defensive line. But if you
Speaker 1: can't get if you can't get up in there and
Speaker 1: get in his face and ensure tackle him, you gotta
Speaker 1: get your hands up. You gotta jump up and make
Speaker 1: him brain that ball out. When he go to thought.
Speaker 1: You gotta make him brain that ball down at least
Speaker 1: three or four times a game and make him and
Speaker 1: make him look somewhere else if you can't get home,
Speaker 1: and if you can't get home, you have to bring
Speaker 1: him down. He's like Jess said, he's very elusive. We've
Speaker 1: seen him. Just break him and Tyler Locket, just break
Speaker 1: teams back. He'll scramble around the next thing, you know,
Speaker 1: more the other the other receiver, more just running down
Speaker 1: the wide. Hey man, what's up? You know? I gotta
Speaker 1: splash Jestice cologne to your smell man. You know who's
Speaker 1: got the more responsibility to ends to trying to keep
Speaker 1: from getting outside or the guys up the middle trying
Speaker 1: to team effort. It's effort effort both. You have to
Speaker 1: when you always hear that, you know, hey, b B
Speaker 1: gap have gap integrity, be you know, a lame h
Speaker 1: lane integrity. This is you hear those terms for guys
Speaker 1: like Russell Wilson, for guys like Lamar Jackson, for guys
Speaker 1: like Deshaun Watson, because if you are undisciplined, if you
Speaker 1: think that one time I can just go inside and
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be containing outside. He's gonna beat you,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna find where that where that gap is,
Speaker 1: where that breakdown is. So this is that time where
Speaker 1: if you're supposed to rush out, rush outside, keep that outside,
Speaker 1: show the free. Don't you don't get caught inside because
Speaker 1: you thought you saw something. You try to get freaky
Speaker 1: with it. No, listen, if you're supposed to rush up
Speaker 1: the middle to keep that land and take her up
Speaker 1: the middle, then do it because you have to make
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson uncomfortable inside that pocket. If he can beat
Speaker 1: you from inside the pocket, then you know what. You
Speaker 1: tip your hat to that man and you say, good job.
Speaker 1: You're a professional football player and you beat it from
Speaker 1: the pocket. But if you let him get on the
Speaker 1: edges and you let him dance around and buy more
Speaker 1: time because you were undisciplined in your assignments and your alignments,
Speaker 1: then that is on you and you you are playing
Speaker 1: outside of the space that you're supposed to be playing in.
Speaker 1: If little Russell Wilson can beat you from the pocket,
Speaker 1: that's when you got to tip your hat to that
Speaker 1: young man and say, you know what, today, what our day?
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Speaker 1: Here was my homies, Nate, Jesse and Kurt Daniels. We
Speaker 1: got Kurt back. Kurt tried to make up for missing
Speaker 1: missing the first twelve minutes of the segment by talking
Speaker 1: the entire last three minutes segment curtain. Let's talk a
Speaker 1: question for you? What what you got? I got another
Speaker 1: question for we were talking defensive line. I got another
Speaker 1: question for these guys, do it go? Take it all? Right? Well,
Speaker 1: you guys probably read that Everson Griffith yesterday said that,
Speaker 1: you know, this two point stance thing just wasn't working
Speaker 1: for him. Then he was going to go to three
Speaker 1: point stance. Find it to Marcus Lawrence two, three point
Speaker 1: stance one. Will that make a big difference? Do you
Speaker 1: think that's really going to change things? And Two, we
Speaker 1: heard a lot of talk before the season about fitting
Speaker 1: the scheme to the players. Was this a situation where
Speaker 1: they were trying to make the players fit into their scheme.
Speaker 1: Before you guys get into this, I just want to
Speaker 1: let you know that Jeff Cavanaugh is doing victory laps.
Speaker 1: Last night and today. He was on He was on
Speaker 1: Cows Happy Hour last night with me and Nick and
Speaker 1: Roy Williams, and we asked him about the Twitter war
Speaker 1: he got into with Everson, and then Everson came out
Speaker 1: and said, hey, I'm switching things up. So Jeff Cavanaugh
Speaker 1: has taking one responsibility for this coming out. So you
Speaker 1: guys go ahead, what were you saying date, this is
Speaker 1: a this is where they tried it. The players tried
Speaker 1: it and they went to their coaches. See, when you
Speaker 1: are a right defensive end and you're used to putting
Speaker 1: your foot down, you're you're in a three point stands,
Speaker 1: you have you kind of put your left hand down
Speaker 1: and you have your right foot forward. You left your
Speaker 1: poke and turn yourself when you stand up and you
Speaker 1: have to stagger your stands and put that right foot forward.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, his footwork is not in sync
Speaker 1: with what he sees when he uh as as a
Speaker 1: defensive minment. Same with Sint Griffin their footworking. And see
Speaker 1: I saw yesterday on film where both of these guys
Speaker 1: got reached while they were standing up. Well, when they're
Speaker 1: at Devin's event, they're outside and their first steps upfield
Speaker 1: they never had. They hardly ever get reached. And then
Speaker 1: another thing when they're passed rushing. If that lead foot
Speaker 1: that you normally used to getting off with is the
Speaker 1: back foot and you're not transferring your weight, said, a
Speaker 1: lot of guys understand just you understands the transferring of
Speaker 1: weight is so key, especially about getting off the ball,
Speaker 1: and these guys have not had time enough to learn
Speaker 1: to transfer that weight in the mind because a lot
Speaker 1: of times everything you do is reaction and repetition, and
Speaker 1: these guys ain't used to it. So you better go
Speaker 1: back to what makes you, Everson Griffin, and you better
Speaker 1: go back to what makes you DeMarcus Lawrence, and let
Speaker 1: somebody else stand up. You go do your job and
Speaker 1: be the player that we know you can be. Absolutely, absolutely, Nate,
Speaker 1: I mean I think about it. You know, cleats, gloves, shirts. Sure,
Speaker 1: there are certain things when a player mentally, you you
Speaker 1: have a certain style that you're so used to an
Speaker 1: accustomed to having, and stance, starts, all these things, and
Speaker 1: when you become when you start tinkering with those things,
Speaker 1: that's when it throws you off mentally because now you're
Speaker 1: you're you're not it's not your normal cadence, it's not
Speaker 1: your normal mode of operation. This is this goes back
Speaker 1: to again the lack thereof of training camp Everson Griffrid,
Speaker 1: you know, and those guys trying to come in and
Speaker 1: and seeing things differently. You don't have a chance to adjust.
Speaker 1: But kudos to to to Mike and his staff for
Speaker 1: for listening to us players, because you have some coaches
Speaker 1: to say, you know, make it work, but this is
Speaker 1: what we do. Make it work. But kudos to them
Speaker 1: to say, you know what, how can we get a
Speaker 1: better pass for us? If you're telling me that this,
Speaker 1: this will help you do this, And I'm all the
Speaker 1: more willing to swallow my coaching pride and how I
Speaker 1: normally do things to give you the comfort in the
Speaker 1: luxury to go back to what you do. It makes
Speaker 1: you comfortable, because it's so key to be comfortable in
Speaker 1: what you're doing out there if you want to have
Speaker 1: maximum success. Now here's the thing. If they go into
Speaker 1: it this game doing it the way that they feel
Speaker 1: comfortable and they don't generate success, that's when you start
Speaker 1: having an issue because you didn't do it with success
Speaker 1: that way, and you're not doing it with success this way.
Speaker 1: Now you start, Now you start messing with everything. What
Speaker 1: about do my hand like this, or I do my
Speaker 1: foot like this, or I do my shoulders like this.
Speaker 1: When you start tinkering with techniques during the middle of
Speaker 1: the season, it can throw you so far off track.
Speaker 1: And with those guys who are defensive ends, this game
Speaker 1: is a game of read and reaction. Anyone who was
Speaker 1: doing a ton of thinking. Once the ball is snapped,
Speaker 1: you're done. You are finished. You are no good to
Speaker 1: no one if you're thinking about something, once the ball
Speaker 1: is snapped, if you don't read and react kind of player,
Speaker 1: you gotta be able to see your keys, see your
Speaker 1: whole see whatever they that you are triggered to see
Speaker 1: and do it. If you're thinking about it, that guy
Speaker 1: in front, he's going to dominate you all game long.
Speaker 1: So so what Nolan said, one of the reasons he
Speaker 1: had those guys standing up so that they could show
Speaker 1: different looks and he never quite knew who is going
Speaker 1: to be rushing the past or maybe those guys would
Speaker 1: drop back, somebody else would come in. Now you're kind
Speaker 1: of setting yourself up where it's a little more more simplistic. Um,
Speaker 1: Is that Is that a good thing? Is it? Are
Speaker 1: they still gonna be able to switch things up once
Speaker 1: in a while, you know? And that's and that's the
Speaker 1: smartness of a good player, and a great player is
Speaker 1: sometime he'll go down. So now it's gonna they're gonna docks.
Speaker 1: You know, it's at least Marcus Lawrences, so he can
Speaker 1: play the game too. But when it's obvious that you
Speaker 1: got to get out of that pastor to get all that,
Speaker 1: I'm dropping back. When it's obvious, bro, you got to
Speaker 1: get out of the pastor we've had no pass rush.
Speaker 1: And I've said it before, I said at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the seas, I said it last week. What I'm saying,
Speaker 1: if we don't start getting pressure up front every week,
Speaker 1: we have a mystery dB go down. We're running out
Speaker 1: of dvs. They can't cover eighteen seconds. We have to
Speaker 1: get some pressure up front and to keep these guys
Speaker 1: physically and mentally on point. Trust me, now what I'm
Speaker 1: telling you this what what does we We've heard a
Speaker 1: lot of talk about the offensive line having to play
Speaker 1: together and players wanted Nolan again. He said that, you know,
Speaker 1: not only these guys struggled individually, he's been disappointed in
Speaker 1: how they're playing as a group together. How did what's
Speaker 1: the communication? Like? Why, what's what's the holder or what's
Speaker 1: the problem? You think, what are they need to do
Speaker 1: to improve in that way? Go first, Jessica. I think
Speaker 1: I think defensive line and offensive line are very similar
Speaker 1: in when you have an offensive line and guys aren't
Speaker 1: moving in Unison NFL films, sometimes when they when they
Speaker 1: do a lot of their specials, they'll they'll come into
Speaker 1: a shot and it'll just be the feet of the
Speaker 1: offensive linement and it looks like a synchronized dance. It's
Speaker 1: so it's so wonderful to see. And what that does
Speaker 1: is that eliminates and alleviates those gaps for guys to
Speaker 1: squeeze into and for guys to get corners on you.
Speaker 1: The same thing with the defensive line. If we're rushing together,
Speaker 1: whether we're doing a tea stunt or we're doing anything upfront,
Speaker 1: if we're rushing in unison. Now when we start to
Speaker 1: come off things, we're coming off much more synchronized, and
Speaker 1: it confuses the offensive line. But when we got one
Speaker 1: guy up here, one guy back here, or one guy
Speaker 1: in the middle of one, now the offensive line is
Speaker 1: sitting back saying we can pass it, you can pass
Speaker 1: it off. The offensive line can communicate it now when
Speaker 1: they can see it more clearly. Where if you're coming
Speaker 1: all at one wave and one rushing guys aren't segmented,
Speaker 1: it's harder for offensive lineman to pick up to pass off.
Speaker 1: And that's when you get two guys going on one
Speaker 1: guy and a guy running scott free, or a guy
Speaker 1: falling off one guy and now he's beating them on
Speaker 1: the one on one. So the same thing applies for
Speaker 1: offensive lineman is it does defensive lineman. So they have
Speaker 1: to learn how to play and sync, play together, get
Speaker 1: off the ball together at the same time, so that
Speaker 1: now you give it a much harder look for the
Speaker 1: offensive line to diagnose who's who and who's to come
Speaker 1: off where and all that kind of the crazy stuffy
Speaker 1: And let me put it like, this center is zero
Speaker 1: head up on the snate is zero two. Gaps outside
Speaker 1: of him, depending on which way you're going is one, one, two, two,
Speaker 1: and those are your gaps. Okay, Well, every gap, especially
Speaker 1: on the run, has to be feeled. This center may
Speaker 1: say the nose guy may sound going into the one
Speaker 1: gap on the right side, Well you know what, that
Speaker 1: linebacker how to take the backside gap zero to backside
Speaker 1: gap on that on the opposite side, and that's the one.
Speaker 1: So you every gap has to be filled, especially against
Speaker 1: the run. And if you're not fitting those gaps, you're
Speaker 1: getting what we're getting here. You know, guys out of whack,
Speaker 1: guys getting up to my you know, we see a
Speaker 1: lot of it. I've missed the tackle, I'm not in
Speaker 1: my gap. That's you got to cover that in the
Speaker 1: same and just tell you when you're running different Brouck
Speaker 1: combinations in the back. These guys gotta be able to
Speaker 1: pass guys. When you got guys flowing across the field,
Speaker 1: a lot of times you'll see New England is good
Speaker 1: at that, Seattle does it okay? You know, and when
Speaker 1: they got guys just going across the field, they're passing guys.
Speaker 1: You gotta talk, you gotta communicate. And that's what the Cowboys. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's what the coaches can possibly be saying and not
Speaker 1: communicating and not fitting their gaps. All right, let's take
Speaker 1: our last break. Your head is it At the end
Speaker 1: of a sentence, you put a period of explanation, Marcus,
Speaker 1: something you say that you stop, Okay, I like it.
Speaker 1: That's you explain. You both explain that. Great. That's what
Speaker 1: I was to say. Nice, you listen, Nice. Nice. That
Speaker 1: was very nice. You guys got me paranoid now to
Speaker 1: say nice now, because if you're weighing on me to
Speaker 1: say nice, you know what we're gonna We're gonna play
Speaker 1: a little game when we come back. I was gonna
Speaker 1: call it buy sell or hold. We're gonna call it nice,
Speaker 1: not nice or need some grace or need some grace.
Speaker 1: Find out what that is when we come back in
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Speaker 1: he opened the stairs back in two thousand and nine. Jesse,
Speaker 1: what's that? Uh? What's that picture back there behind you?
Speaker 1: I've been wanting to ask you that for a couple
Speaker 1: of days. This is me, of course, that you're getting
Speaker 1: blown up. That's actually making me making a hell of
Speaker 1: a cats over. Terrence McGee, we were playing at home
Speaker 1: against Buffalo. I ran a steam route up the middle
Speaker 1: Tony actually under threw the ball and I had to
Speaker 1: reach I had to jump reach back over Terrence h
Speaker 1: Terrence McGee's grab it to extend the drive. We scored
Speaker 1: a touchdown on that drive that's bright in the back
Speaker 1: of the end zone, and we went on to route
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Where's the picture you get from behind it, say, France,
Speaker 1: that's at home. Man. You know, it's always amazing a shadow.
Speaker 1: It's always amazing that Jesse always catched the pass before
Speaker 1: the touchdown pass. I'm a good set up. I'm a
Speaker 1: good setup man, everybody. I'm okay with being robbing. If
Speaker 1: it wasn't forgotten Man, Batman would have been dead several times. Boy,
Speaker 1: that's a good point. But you know what, but there
Speaker 1: ain't no robbing on the big screen and the movies.
Speaker 1: He ain't got no robbin It's just Batman, all right.
Speaker 1: Let's play a little game. Let's play we Normally I
Speaker 1: would say bye, sell or hold. We're gonna say nice,
Speaker 1: not nice or grace. And what I mean by that
Speaker 1: is nice means you you like what this guy's doing.
Speaker 1: You're you're on board. Let's go, let's get some more
Speaker 1: of this guy. Not nice means he gotta we need
Speaker 1: to move on, or he's not doing his job, and
Speaker 1: grace means I need I can't make I can't give
Speaker 1: you an opinion yet because I need to see a
Speaker 1: little bit more what this guy's doing before I can
Speaker 1: be nice or not. And listen, that's great right there?
Speaker 1: What you just pull together right there? Brother? Yeah? Nice,
Speaker 1: nice and grace. Now that's now. That's that's how you
Speaker 1: host a show from now on, that's how you host
Speaker 1: a show man. I mean you learned these things between
Speaker 1: changing diapers, bro, I mean you all right, let's get started, Kurt,
Speaker 1: let's see. Let's who who do we want to know about?
Speaker 1: I tell you what, this is a good one because
Speaker 1: I was pretty sure he was on his way out
Speaker 1: the door after the first game. The second game, he
Speaker 1: had a hell of a bounce back. Started off shaky,
Speaker 1: dark and Shultz nice, not nice or a little grace needed?
Speaker 1: Oh I think a little grace needed. I mean he's
Speaker 1: only had two games of significance here, or you know,
Speaker 1: got a chance to play significant snaps in two games.
Speaker 1: Hopefully what we saw in that second game is what
Speaker 1: we'll see down the road. So I like a showing promise.
Speaker 1: That's good. Grace quick, I'll say right quickly like grace,
Speaker 1: and I wish it. I was gonna give him a
Speaker 1: nice but Kurt Grace, that's grace. I'm gonna give him grace.
Speaker 1: I want to see more. Yes, I'm going I'm going
Speaker 1: right there too as well. I'm going with I'm going
Speaker 1: with three graces. And I said I said that, I
Speaker 1: said that CD Land was in the perfect position. I
Speaker 1: think Dalton Shultz is even in that more it's not
Speaker 1: even a word more perfect situation, because you are you
Speaker 1: are seriously, You're seriously getting a ton of one on
Speaker 1: one looks because that safety will be occupied with either
Speaker 1: CD or Mario or someone else. And if you messed
Speaker 1: up with linebackers all day, you should dominate big boy.
Speaker 1: So Jesse's telling you go get Dalton Schultz in your
Speaker 1: fantasy league. If you don't have him, he's gonna have
Speaker 1: a field day this year. There you go. You heard
Speaker 1: it here. First, go get him? All right, another guy,
Speaker 1: we haven't really talked about that, and that's usually we
Speaker 1: haven't really talked about this guy a lot. And it's
Speaker 1: usually a good sign if you're on an offensive line.
Speaker 1: Joe Looney Nate nice, not nice, or a little more grace.
Speaker 1: He needs a lot more grace. These past two days
Speaker 1: have not been nice for him. So I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: him some grace to get his self going and get
Speaker 1: back acclimated to being to start a center for the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Grace period, one more game, little all right, Jesse,
Speaker 1: Boy life is tough when you don't got all your
Speaker 1: pro bowls to one side and you're all prols to
Speaker 1: the other side. Boy life getting little life getting a
Speaker 1: little tough with it when when jokers who you used
Speaker 1: to having her out there, what you ain't out there,
Speaker 1: you toss. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 1: gonna lean to to the offensive lineman, three times Shop
Speaker 1: Bowl champion offensive lineman. I'm gonna go with a little
Speaker 1: bit more grace, a little more grace. All right. We
Speaker 1: may have lost Kurt. We got you, Kurt, all right now,
Speaker 1: I think I'm back. You got back? All right? Got you?
Speaker 1: We got you? Looney? Here grace nice, not nice? He there?
Speaker 1: Kurt uh? All right? What was it? Looney? Joe Looney? Kurt,
Speaker 1: Nate and Jesse both said they need a little bit
Speaker 1: more grace with him because he's not not off to
Speaker 1: a great start, but they need to see a little
Speaker 1: bit more. Yeah, and they would know better than me
Speaker 1: as far as Lineman go. I mean, um, it's hard
Speaker 1: to judge him in some ways because he's following one
Speaker 1: of the greatest centers who's ever played for the franchise,
Speaker 1: you know, and Frederick, And even if Looney's good, he's
Speaker 1: probably not gonna be as good as Frederick, which is
Speaker 1: you know, could be a problem. So yeah, I would
Speaker 1: go with grace as well. We need we need to
Speaker 1: see a little more, all right. Sticking with the theme
Speaker 1: that Jesse brought up, your your friends aren't around you anymore.
Speaker 1: You kind of out on an island. Zack Martin, Jesse,
Speaker 1: what you think so far? Nice? Not nice? A little
Speaker 1: bit of grace needed, Um, I mean, because it's Zack Martin,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna going nice. I mean, he's still he's still
Speaker 1: playing really good football. But again there's a lot of
Speaker 1: things that not you know, not happening around him. And
Speaker 1: so I know the offensive line is kind of been
Speaker 1: getting kicked down a little bit. But I'm gonna go up.
Speaker 1: Jack Martin has has earned enough over time and whatever
Speaker 1: defensis that he may have right now, I'm sure he
Speaker 1: will fix. So I'm still gonna go with nice, nice, Nice. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say nice too. He's still one of the
Speaker 1: best guards in the game, I think. All right, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think we even need to mention Dak or Zeke,
Speaker 1: So I'll skip to Tony Pollard. What have you seen
Speaker 1: out of him? Yeah, we have something to say. Great.
Speaker 1: If we have something to say great, Zeke, what is
Speaker 1: the word? Okay? So you know, you know what Nate does.
Speaker 1: Nate makes you sometimes. I love Zeke, I love his family,
Speaker 1: I love everything. But but Nate sometimes hyped Zeke up
Speaker 1: so much. He makes me roll my eyes to make
Speaker 1: it seem like I don't really like Zeke when I
Speaker 1: really love Zeke. I know when when Nate bigs him
Speaker 1: up way too much when it's not necessary, it makes
Speaker 1: folks roll their eyes at him, like like like you
Speaker 1: like he trying to put in Zeke's name easy essential
Speaker 1: in this virus, easy cential, easy cential. He's essential. But
Speaker 1: you know what, hay, hey, hey, you you got you
Speaker 1: got my boy out of the game. Now you're trying
Speaker 1: to get Zeke out of the game. You are samer,
Speaker 1: we need you a sneak on a salesman. You' it's
Speaker 1: n s Kurt. What do you think about Tony Pollard? Grace?
Speaker 1: There's two years in a row. I think we've heard
Speaker 1: it all. We're gonna get him involved to do this
Speaker 1: and that, and so far through two games, it's just
Speaker 1: having that much of a chance. So Grace needs Grace
Speaker 1: needs some more grace. Nate, Yeah, I'm going with Jess.
Speaker 1: Whatever Jess to say, all I care about his Zeke,
Speaker 1: I'm going I'm going with Grace as well. And I
Speaker 1: told you guys this months ago it's gonna be hard
Speaker 1: to get Tony Pollard reps. It is because, Nate, I
Speaker 1: agree with you. Zeke is absolutely phenomenal. You don't He's
Speaker 1: he's in every down back so you don't want to
Speaker 1: take him off the field. And then you're saying, it's
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard a better receiving option than Ceedee Lamb, No,
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup, no, Marta Cooper, hell no, So where do
Speaker 1: so where do we put him at? Where do we
Speaker 1: find you might get a rep here and there, But
Speaker 1: where do we give him reps? You actually need a
Speaker 1: hundred reps a game for actually the fine places to
Speaker 1: put him, Zeke, you don't want him to come off
Speaker 1: the field. He's not a better passing option than any
Speaker 1: of those other three. I just don't know. Unless you're
Speaker 1: going four wide and he's being the fourth one, I
Speaker 1: don't know where you're gonna find many reps for Tony Pollard?
Speaker 1: Do do you guys feel like what we've seen of him,
Speaker 1: he looks really good and to hear the defensive guys
Speaker 1: that practice against him, they say he gets to the
Speaker 1: hole so fast that he's that he's quick, and they
Speaker 1: said that when he came in as a rookie. Do
Speaker 1: you feel like he's kind of a victim of the
Speaker 1: team that he's on. If he was on some of
Speaker 1: these other teams, he would be one of those one
Speaker 1: two punch backs where he would be almost split and
Speaker 1: carries with the number one guy, because Elliott wasn't a
Speaker 1: number and number one back, like he's in that top
Speaker 1: three category when you're talking about backs, if he wasn't that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: most definitely, Yeah, you're splitting time with this guy. You're
Speaker 1: gonna get fifteen, he gonna get fifteen, or you're gonna
Speaker 1: get ten and he gonna get twenty. But Zeke is
Speaker 1: such a nominal all around. Back when you when you're
Speaker 1: thinking about running a play, you think it to yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard might be good at this, but Zeke might
Speaker 1: be great at this. You know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: the one play the Cup, there's only a handful of
Speaker 1: plays when you might say that Tony Pollar is better
Speaker 1: than Zeke. And unless you're blowing a team out, I
Speaker 1: want twenty one on the field as much as I
Speaker 1: possibly can. Yeah, I agree, we talk about we need
Speaker 1: to see him more, but you know, do we really
Speaker 1: need to see him more? It's it's tough to stick
Speaker 1: Zeke off. I think we're all we can talk good
Speaker 1: about Zeke. They're just observing. They's just loving when he's here,
Speaker 1: and look at him, he's just gloating over there. I
Speaker 1: think we all have the same opinion of this guy.
Speaker 1: But I can ask this questions. Yeah, absolute questions. Are
Speaker 1: you hot not old coach McCarthy? You first should man? Oh?
Speaker 1: Not nice? No, there's no there's no grace period on
Speaker 1: this one. It's just hot or not? You save rules nice?
Speaker 1: I you know what I think I am. I think
Speaker 1: I'm still hot. I probably need to see a little
Speaker 1: bit more, but I don't have a problem with any
Speaker 1: of the aggressive play calls. I don't have a problem
Speaker 1: with because I want to see change so much, and
Speaker 1: I like to watch sports, and I like to see
Speaker 1: coaches that gamble. I like to see coaches that are
Speaker 1: not predictable. I like to see coaches just for the
Speaker 1: entertainment value, just for my personal benefit. I like to
Speaker 1: not know what's coming next. And I got so used
Speaker 1: to that the last eight or nine years that this
Speaker 1: is refreshing to me. And sometimes when you gamble, you
Speaker 1: play the odds. You're gonna lose sometimes, but I think
Speaker 1: it's worth the gam and I I am. I am
Speaker 1: riding the whole season with coach McCarthy. Nice, Kurt Grace Night,
Speaker 1: oh nice. How about you, Jess? Were you? Were you saying?
Speaker 1: So I'm still I'm still Oh my god, You're not
Speaker 1: gonna get me off that, Nathaniel, I'm still still football.
Speaker 1: Holy freaking Mike, and seating is long, baby, I'm believer
Speaker 1: a freaking Mike. You're not gonna stop getting me to
Speaker 1: believe just yet. It's nice. Let's go, Jay, Holly is
Speaker 1: still here with you. Man, I'm not gonna cut on
Speaker 1: you just yet. Baby, Does that answer your questions? I'm sitting, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting in the great stage because he got
Speaker 1: two more games. I'm sitting in the great stage. But Jesse,
Speaker 1: and wow, really, how how do you really feel? Jesse?
Speaker 1: I'm for real cool? Yeah, hot or not? Grace no
Speaker 1: grace from McCarthy. Nice? Oh yeah, nice? No. I like
Speaker 1: what he's doing. You know, he got to give him
Speaker 1: one more time, but nice. Yeah. All right, all right,
Speaker 1: well let's I tell you what. Let's let's continue this tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We'll go to the defensive side of the ball at
Speaker 1: some point tomorrow. Uh, that was fun, you guys. You
Speaker 1: guys look good today. Jesse, you smell good. Nate you
Speaker 1: look good. You look you look like you cleaned up
Speaker 1: a little bit for the show. I wore a collar
Speaker 1: and Kurt, you know, I mean you come here, I'm here.
Speaker 1: You could stay connected. You know, we we'd have a
Speaker 1: show you a p wouldn't it'd be a start? Yeah? Well, fellas,
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. This has been fun. Tomorrow we will
Speaker 1: get your picks on the game. Hopefully we have Mama
Speaker 1: Gross given her picks. This week we would play nice
Speaker 1: not nice if we will also talk a little bit
Speaker 1: more Cowboys, Seahawks and what we expect whenever we come
Speaker 1: back to you live again one more time this week
Speaker 1: on hanging with the Boys. Thanks fellas, good seeing y'all,
Speaker 1: see you tomorrow. Thank you all right. This has been
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