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Speaker 1: Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the

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Speaker 1: your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and

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Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman's It's a Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys from

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Speaker 1: Hunt Day edition here on week eleven of the NFL season.

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Speaker 1: The Minnesota Vikings coming up on Sunday afternoon, and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna break it down for you today as Vikings offense,

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Speaker 1: Cowboys defense, and we're gonna hit some of the recent

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Speaker 1: store winds surrounding this Dallas Cowboys ball Club. But first

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Speaker 1: let me introduce the panel. As always, Isaiah stand back,

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Speaker 1: our residence super Bowl champ are Great Cowboys insider, mister

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips and the always incredible, always smiling heckm Harrison

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Speaker 1: on the top right hand corner of your scream the

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Speaker 1: whole show. Now, just because I said you smile all

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Speaker 1: the time, Yeah, why you're you're a happy guy. You're

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Speaker 1: it happen. Let it happen, Kyle, just let it happen. Well,

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Speaker 1: we've we've found nicknames, and I've found like a go

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Speaker 1: one that I've loaned known the longest. It's harder to

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Speaker 1: many good things, but I got to find something that

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Speaker 1: that comes to me naturally. Well we've Kyle, y, I

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Speaker 1: this one would be like FCC rules, like not not okay,

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Speaker 1: Like if if you were to say this nickname on

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Speaker 1: you have no idea. Robbie, are you peanut butter and

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Speaker 1: my god, say that again? Are you a peanut butter

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Speaker 1: move on. Robi, I was just asked on the fan

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Speaker 1: I want to first know if you've read this, because

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Speaker 1: it came out early in the wee hours of the

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Speaker 1: morning today, But Jaylen Smith potentially moved on from depending

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Speaker 1: do it regardless. That's a report, like I said, not

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Speaker 1: into segment Numero dose. Here on this Wednesday, fantastic day

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Speaker 1: outside and continuing the beautiful weather here this fall and

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Speaker 1: it's football weather here in Texas, but not really. It

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Speaker 1: really hasn't gotten cold yet, which is kind of interesting.

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Speaker 1: I'm waiting for that cold front to come through and

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Speaker 1: then it doesn't really let up. It has not gotten

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Speaker 1: that cold. It's gotten cold for like the one day

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Speaker 1: we were outside that was like the coldest problem and

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Speaker 1: then that was about it. I mean, I like the cold,

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Speaker 1: so I like wearing jackets and whatever the gear is

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Speaker 1: that we end up having and stuff like that. But

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Speaker 1: Isaiah stand back, Rob Phillips, heck my Harrison, I'm Kyle

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Speaker 1: yeomens and guys, we got an up close and personal

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Speaker 1: look at that Monday night football showing from the Kirk

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Speaker 1: Cousins led Minnesota Vikings offense. And of course today we

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Speaker 1: are previewing the offense and talking about their matchup with

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Speaker 1: this Cowboys defense. We just ran through a bunch of

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Speaker 1: names defensively that we're either impressive or not so impressive

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Speaker 1: on that side of the football. But whenever he comes

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Speaker 1: to this offense from the Vikings, you gotta start with

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Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, right, I mean that's where the beginning, the

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Speaker 1: middle of the end is whenever it comes to the

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Speaker 1: Vikings attack. And Isaiah, I mean whenever it comes to

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Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook. You talk about a dominant back and someone

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Speaker 1: that scares you to death. In terms of the rush

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Speaker 1: defense that the Cowboys have flashed throughout the first nine

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Speaker 1: weeks of the season, he might be the number one

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Speaker 1: candidate to torch that right. Yeah, he's pretty dangerous. So

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Speaker 1: when you cat running backs and all the intangible was

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Speaker 1: that you want them to have, he literally checks every box. Um,

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Speaker 1: he's compacts, he's he's he's he got some size to him,

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Speaker 1: he has, he has quickness, he has you know, long speed,

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Speaker 1: he has power. Um, he can run routes, he can

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Speaker 1: catch the ball. I mean he literally checks every box

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Speaker 1: and he provides a problem for every team that he faces. Um,

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Speaker 1: you match that up with with the offensive scheme that

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Speaker 1: works perfectly for him in terms of the zone blocking

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Speaker 1: scheme with these office alignment that are aggressive and nasty

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Speaker 1: and their discipline and they do their job and they

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Speaker 1: work not only they work from the first level all

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Speaker 1: the way up to the third level. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: provides a problem. And even when he's not running the

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Speaker 1: ball on the ground, they want to spread you out

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Speaker 1: and use all their weapons that they have a receiver

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Speaker 1: that will get to as well. And then you all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're isolating him on a linebacker like

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Speaker 1: Jaylen Smith or a eye linebacker like Vander esh and

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Speaker 1: you're expecting those guys to cover him with you know,

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Speaker 1: fifty three yards of with ut the field, you know,

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Speaker 1: for him to work with it's it's a problem. And um,

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Speaker 1: you know we have our hands full this week. Once again,

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Speaker 1: good old Dalvin cook Man tell you when he came, Hey,

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Speaker 1: they call him, they should call him cookie cutter because

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Speaker 1: that's the way he goes through defenses. He's very patient.

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Speaker 1: I love that about him, and then I mean it's

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Speaker 1: his sudden explosiveness is one thing that makes him a

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Speaker 1: difference for the Minnesota Vikings. But you know, they have

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Speaker 1: the perfect offensive scheme for him. That zone run is

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Speaker 1: just you know, all about picking up three four and

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Speaker 1: then next thing you know, he's busting one for forty yards.

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Speaker 1: And so I'm really interested to see how coach Nolan

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Speaker 1: attacks this offense and just knowing how a patient they are.

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins is one of my least favorite quarterbacks. I

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Speaker 1: think he's been overrated for a very long time, and

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Speaker 1: not best because he played for the Washington football team,

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Speaker 1: but I just think that he's overrated. And I've never

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Speaker 1: liked the comparison between Cousins and Dak, and I was

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Speaker 1: really looking forward to this matchup so that Dak could

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Speaker 1: just outdule him in this game. But we old Minnesota

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Speaker 1: from last year because man, when they were at AT

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Speaker 1: and T last year, they ran it down our throat

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Speaker 1: and they did a really good job of making our

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Speaker 1: linebackers and defensive line look like they were there. So yay.

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Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook is the is the number one Russia in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. So he has to be licking his chops

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Speaker 1: and looking across the line at ed Ezekiel Elliott like

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Speaker 1: I'm what you used to be. So Zeke has got

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Speaker 1: to have to take some pride in this game. Also

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Speaker 1: because Dalvin Cook is the league leading Russian. I love

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Speaker 1: this matchup. I don't know if the Cowboys love this matchup,

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Speaker 1: but I love this matchup because we're gonna find out

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Speaker 1: just how far the defense has come in the last

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Speaker 1: two weeks, right just I mean, you talk about a

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Speaker 1: litmus test. He is the best back in the NFL

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Speaker 1: this year in terms of production. And you watch him

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Speaker 1: on tape, how explosive he is, how the yards after contact.

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Speaker 1: You know, he got met at the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 1: on Monday night by Rocan Smith, who's a top linebacker

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Speaker 1: in this league, and just dragged him forward for three yards.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's got a perfect blend of everything you

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Speaker 1: want in a running back. And heck mentioned the game

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Speaker 1: last year when the Cowboys lost twenty eight twenty four

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Speaker 1: to Minnesota. I thought they did a pretty good job

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Speaker 1: against him running the ball. I think he was under

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Speaker 1: one hundred yards, just like he was on Monday night. Still,

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Speaker 1: he had still ninety seven. It took him almost thirty carries.

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Speaker 1: Get it. However, he had two screen catches early in

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Speaker 1: the game of almost thirty yards. That led to two

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Speaker 1: touchdowns early for Minnesota, and they kind of didn't look back.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's the whole part of his game that

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Speaker 1: you've got to be ready for. And if you guys

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Speaker 1: watched Isaiah's film room on yesterday, that's that's something you

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Speaker 1: got to count for. Two, there was a play you

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Speaker 1: guys drew up where you get we talked about linebackers

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Speaker 1: in the first segment. You get a linebacker in space

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Speaker 1: on Dalvin Cook and that can be a major problem.

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Speaker 1: So they've got to be ready for a lot of

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Speaker 1: touches for him, you know, maybe upwards of thirty carries

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Speaker 1: potentially to pick on who the game goes. But they're

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Speaker 1: also going to try to give him involve than the

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Speaker 1: screen game too. He had thirty carries on Monday Night

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Speaker 1: Football had twenty six last year against the Cowboys for

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Speaker 1: ninety seven yards. So they did like you said, Rob,

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Speaker 1: they held him under four yards to carry. He did

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Speaker 1: have a touchdown on the ground. But you mentioned his

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Speaker 1: threat as a receiver seven receptions eighty six yards in

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Speaker 1: that football game. So he was up over one hundred

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Speaker 1: and seventy yards in terms of total offense plus Alexander

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Speaker 1: Madison behind him. Not a bad one two punch whenever

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Speaker 1: it comes to the substitutions that you have tailback wise.

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Speaker 1: But that's the thing about Dalvin Cook is that he's

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Speaker 1: a threat out of the backfield. He's a great runner

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Speaker 1: at the same time, and you're not going to take

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Speaker 1: him down on the first hit. Isaiah you talked about

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Speaker 1: that yesterday on your film session that you can go

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Speaker 1: find on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. But you can go

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Speaker 1: and look at just the pure running, the pure strength

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Speaker 1: and then the speed to close from Dalvin Cook. Is

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Speaker 1: this the most dynamic back? I mean, it's probably an

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Speaker 1: easy question to answer, but is this the most dynamic

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Speaker 1: back that we've seen this season in terms of out

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Speaker 1: of the backfield along with just pure running ability? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean for people in Dallas Nation, I mean,

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Speaker 1: reminds you of Zeke from a couple of years ago, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, you know, when Zeke had that juice,

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Speaker 1: nobody was questioning his breakaway speed. Right when you know

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Speaker 1: Zeke will he would running over you. If you want

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Speaker 1: to meet him in the hole, Um, he'll beat you

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Speaker 1: to the outside. He'll he'll he'll bend the block on

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Speaker 1: you and take it all the way to the house.

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Speaker 1: But he's he's like a younger Zeke with better hands, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean this guy not only are you know, whenever

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Speaker 1: we talk about running backs catching the balls, usually in

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Speaker 1: the context of screens, they're not just throwing the screens

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Speaker 1: to him. These guys were lining him up wide as

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Speaker 1: a receiver, as a split out receiver, and running routes

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Speaker 1: slants and outs and under routes and and option routes,

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Speaker 1: and they're giving He is versatile, and he presents a problem.

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Speaker 1: Man like a I don't know what you do against

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Speaker 1: this dude aside from trying to play underneath his own

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Speaker 1: and try to make sure that you keep as many

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Speaker 1: guys in the box as possible. But then you start

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Speaker 1: running into issues with their passing game. So yeah, you

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Speaker 1: give it up scheme right now. Boy, that underny zone

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Speaker 1: may be the only thing that may be the only

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Speaker 1: thing that works for you. But he's not a he's

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Speaker 1: they're not disguising him when they split him out wide.

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Speaker 1: He has a viable option in this offense. But Kyle,

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Speaker 1: when you asked that question about have we seen anything

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Speaker 1: similar to it, we have to. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: thank our lucky stars because the guy got hurt. But

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Speaker 1: Nick Chubb when he went out versus Cleveland, he could

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Speaker 1: have been that guy. But then they pulled in another

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Speaker 1: guy after him that was just as good. And I

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Speaker 1: think then another guy and another guy and another guy

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Speaker 1: and so and so. When you talk about comparisons between

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Speaker 1: something we've seen before, we talked about this before the show,

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Speaker 1: and that being the Kevin Stefanski offense with Cleveland and

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Speaker 1: just a zone scheme and how much trouble we had

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Speaker 1: with that. So that was that was a nightmare game

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Speaker 1: for the cow Blays defense. But just knowing what they're

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Speaker 1: going to present to us, that you know, our defense

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Speaker 1: has got to play very sound and very discipline in

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Speaker 1: this game just scared me. Heck, he just scared me

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Speaker 1: pretty good on that comparison, because that's a good one

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Speaker 1: because I mean, they're both kind of old school style

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Speaker 1: offenses where they are they make no bones about it.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland in Minnesota, we're gonna run first, We're gonna run

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Speaker 1: at you, and then we're gonna use play action and

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Speaker 1: try to get our receivers to beat you deep. And

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Speaker 1: boy that happened against Dallas against Cleveland a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks back, for sure. Yeah, yeah, definitely Who on this defense,

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Speaker 1: whenever it comes to specific players has to play the

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Speaker 1: game of their life to try and slow down And

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say stop because you're not gonna stop

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Speaker 1: I can't go one player, Vic. When when you're playing

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Speaker 1: You cannot. You can't. You can't just let these guys

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Speaker 1: The line and also the linebackers had to play discipline.

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Speaker 1: And as soon as you overpursue on the zone right

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Speaker 1: all taken care of. But when it comes to Justin

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Speaker 1: Jefferson and Adam Feeling, this is another duo that's scary

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Speaker 1: in terms of the matchup that they've got with our secondary. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson twenty second pick in the draft, man, and

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Speaker 1: But also Feeling, it's also very incredible. I mean I

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's smooth, he's a tactician, he does it all.

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Speaker 1: So I mean they're our secondary, which is already a problem.

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Speaker 1: These guys are gonna have to play together and do

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Speaker 1: a really good job of just zoning these guys out

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a challenge. And also they're tight end

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Speaker 1: just gonna say, scary, that's it, scary, I have We'll

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Speaker 1: scary scary? Did I take up all the time? Now?

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Speaker 1: So it's unfortunate you didn't take up all the time.

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Speaker 1: We just didn't have any But that's gonna do it.

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