WEBVTT - Vince McMahon's downfall 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:32.120 Hello, everyone. This is between the Dring Drinking and you 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:37.159 are listening to Eyes up here with Drinking the iHeartRadio 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:41.360 Network or wherever you get your podcasts. As always, I 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:44.720 had my child host said through with and said, I 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:47.400 feel like I had not seen you may about twenty years. 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:50.400 You look a little older than I last remember. But 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:51.840 how are you doing today, buddy? 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:54.760 I thought I looked better than last time you saw me. 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:56.880 That look great. I think I'm rested. 0:00:57.480 --> 0:00:58.480 Are you well? 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:00.800 I'm not. I just came back from an eighty two 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:03.880 days ursion in the Disney World, so I'm a little tired. 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:08.240 Excuse us. Yeah, I'm sorry, but I've just been waiting 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:09.720 in the chair for you sitting here. 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:12.360 He's been looking at my screen with a tear coming 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:15.399 down your face because I wasn't here. But I want 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:17.080 to thank first of all, before we start. I want 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:20.520 to thank Joe Burtner and Shane Douglas for filling in 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:23.520 for me while I was gone. I really appreciate that. 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:28.000 But I'm back and I hear there's a lot going 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:30.480 on in the news that I might have missed while 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:31.000 I was away. 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:34.119 Geez, you know happened? 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:37.440 You know, Like, here's the funny part too, like we 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:41.000 had to have started preparing for your trip in December, 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:44.800 like yeah, and I mean December, like December thirty first 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:47.080 where we recorded something and then like you and I 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:48.480 had like a pad and penn out and we're like, 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:51.680 all right, when should we like bolk record because I'm 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:53.600 gonna be away and this is what I'm going and 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:56.160 blah blah blah blah blah. And it's like, all right, 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:59.200 that's cool whatever, and you know, and it was this 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:03.040 person is pegged to guest hosts while you're gone. Okay, 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:03.680 we got it. 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:10.280 We only need one week. One Well, who would have. 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:14.519 Ever expected that? And I put this in big bold 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:18.560 italic letters, me the biggest story in the history of 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.920 the business breaks and I'm gone week you go away? 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:25.560 I know, I know. I was dying. I was like, 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:28.840 oh my god, I can't because I was like I 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:33.560 was reading it between rides, going to ride. I'd get 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:35.880 off the ride, I'd google something and see what was 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:39.680 going on and trying to like navigate Disney crowds while 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:44.359 I'm looking at my phone, absolutely insane. And you know what, 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:46.480 I was so pissed off too, because remember I told 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:51.520 you I was going to read the testimonial, the sixty 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:56.079 seven page gimmick that's out right. So I downloaded and 0:02:56.200 --> 0:03:00.440 I guess I didn't download it to the right thing 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:02.919 on my iPad. And I get on the plane and 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:04.840 I'm all ready to read it, and it says you 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:08.160 must have an Internet connection. I was like, oh my god. 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:10.120 So I read it, but I had to read it 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:11.600 when I came home. I could have read it on 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:13.160 the plane, but that was what I had planned to 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:15.919 do on the plane because it's you know, it's a 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:20.120 long flight. But I did read it, and I'm ready 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:24.000 to talk about it. And you know, people that are 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:27.239 listening were coming at you late with these views just 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:30.600 because I was away for a couple of weeks. So 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:35.440 for anyone who cares, I'm going to give my two cents. 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:38.960 And I got it back you up, though, hold on, 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:40.680 I got it back you up, says Die to talk 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:40.880 to you. 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:44.400 You people have no idea. The Queen of Extreme broke 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:47.560 this news to me because I was off the radar 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:49.240 that day, and. 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:51.680 She Douglas too. I texted him and he was. 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:52.800 Like what Yeah. 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.800 So he was the first person I called when I 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:57.480 became available. 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:00.440 And he and I were talking about it, and I. 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:04.440 I almost felt like I had to ask, like the 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:07.480 Mafia to do a hit for me, right, And I 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:11.400 because I was like, Shane, I know you just did 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:15.320 our show last week just on as a guest, and 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:18.240 I know you were a part of a very very 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:22.600 popular and very very good podcast. Would you please do 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:26.080 us the honor of stepping in tonight to record an 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:28.960 emergency video? I said, but I need you to go 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.680 through the proper channels, just like with the Mafia hit, 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:35.240 to get clearance to do this this hit for us, please. 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:39.120 I was like, I cannot believe that this is happening. 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:42.600 And to read what the first thing that popped off 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:45.920 the page was human trafficking. 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:49.960 Yes, that is disturbing to me that like when I 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:53.839 think of human trafficking, I think of more so like children. 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:54.560 Yeah. 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:57.640 And because even when I was in the bathroom in 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:00.600 the Florida airport, there was a big thing in front 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:02.960 of me, one in English and one in Spanish about 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:07.279 child trafficking, right, And it was telling like it showed 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:11.479 I guess sign language or hand signals that you should 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:14.320 use in the airport if somebody kidnaps you, so the 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:19.840 officer knows you're being trefied. Yes, And I'm just like, 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:22.880 oh my gosh, that's what I think of. So to 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:29.160 see this associated with Vince McMahon and Johnny Ace and 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:33.960 all these people, like it's really weird. It just it 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:38.120 didn't seem correct to me, but I guess it is. 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:42.000 And and let me just state before we start. Everything 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:46.000 is allegedly. I always like to point that out, like, 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:50.880 we don't know who's telling the truth. Janelle Grant came 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:54.320 out with her you know, her statements, and then that's 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:58.680 basically that's sixty seven. Is that an affidavit or is it? 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.040 Like I think it's just a we're filing. 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:04.360 We're filing. Well that's her side of the story, and 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:07.359 Vince McMahon comes down and says he will prove his innocence. 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:10.040 So we don't know who's telling the truth and who's not. 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:15.960 I'm basing like my reactions just to what Janelle Grant 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:24.040 wrote and said happened. If it's true what she said, 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:29.640 then oh my god, the things that were in there. 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:33.960 The let's start from the beginning. 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:41.080 To romance novel brave not. 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:45.280 Romantic at all. Although I think according to her, I 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:47.800 think Vince tried to be romantic a couple of times 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:54.560 and failed. The The beginning of the story is basically, 0:06:55.360 --> 0:07:01.920 this woman, Janelle Grant, her parents pass away. She's distraught. 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:04.799 She was a caregiver for them for many many years. 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:09.880 Didn't work, Uh, needed a job to maintain I guess 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:19.280 her lifestyle. She's in the same apartment complex as Vincent Man. Correct, yeah, building, okay, yes, 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:22.240 Now you know when when you think of apartment complexes 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:26.520 and Vince McMahon, I think of kind of an upper class. 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:32.320 Place, you know, Jefferson, you know, really really nice. 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:40.080 Now what I don't understand. First of all, in reading everything, 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:46.360 she meets Vince through somebody who works. 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:51.280 In the building, the building manager, right, okay, and he. 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:54.120 Says, I'll get you in touch with Vince McMahon and 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:58.240 maybe he can help you. So he's showing pity on 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:03.760 Janelle Grant. She meets Vince McMahon she uh through text 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.840 messaging I believe was their first encounter or something like that, 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:13.400 and actually is invited up to his apartment. Now it's 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:19.040 been rumored for years that him and Linda have been 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:24.080 separated and living separate lives for years. But what I 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:26.160 don't get, and I'm jumping ahead here, and I'm going 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:30.480 to probably jump back and forth. When he's talking to Janelle, 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:34.360 he's saying, I don't want my wife to find out 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:37.679 about this. I don't want to get a divorce if 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:44.880 they're separated. That's something that I didn't understand. Yeah, but 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:47.480 let me get so we'll get back to that. 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:50.599 But he says, but he's but there is reference to 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:54.360 his ex, right, she's history. 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:57.400 But then who cares if she finds out? 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.839 I think that the public, like was Linda to be 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.360 honest with you, because since the public. 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:09.600 Four people that were not named, I was getting so confused. 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:10.600 Number one, number. 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:13.360 Two, number three, w W executive one. 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:18.760 Let's call this one Ralph. Let's call this one Joe. 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:23.640 I mean, it would have been much easier. So anyway, 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:33.400 so they meet and I guess Vince starts talking to her, 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:37.120 and I guess she tells him that she's looking for, 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:41.640 you know, a position, a job, And it gets weird. 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:45.480 It gets weird, like right away he starts talking about 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.839 like a surgery that he had on his leg, and 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:51.760 he draws a line on her on her leg to 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:55.640 show where the knee surgery was. And so right off 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:58.880 the bat it's like the touchy feely thing is coming out, 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:04.600 and then from there it just it gets weirder. It's 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.600 it's like he tells her to meet him, and then 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:16.400 he comes out in his underwear, standing in his underwear. Uh, 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:22.319 he says he wants to hold her. Uh, it's just 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:26.000 when he hugs her, he whispered, what did he whisper? 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:30.160 Like this is nice or so nice or like weird 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:34.599 weird stuff. It just as for kisses on uh, you know, 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:38.120 a kiss she kissed him on the He says, that's 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:38.880 not what I meant. 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:43.120 Yes, just weird things. Now for me as a woman, 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:47.599 that would be a signal right then and there to 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:50.640 get my ass out of here. This is not a 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:58.079 job that I want to me. She continued to go 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:04.280 and push too this relationship with him. She says that 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:11.640 she was kind of like forced into it, and if 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:15.199 you go one with the story, it just leads to 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:21.080 her getting deeper and deeper into this relationship with Vince 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:25.600 in order to keep her job. And then Vince takes 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:30.240 in Johnny Ace, who now says that Vince was trafficking. 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:36.400 I'm sorry, I don't need to be laughing. The bad 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:39.920 statement was ridiculous to me. I I just I don't know. 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:45.120 But then like other people like who wasn't Vincent, wasn't 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:49.000 Vince's chiropractor or somebody? 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:53.480 Yeah it was uh oh gosh, was it was it? No, 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:56.800 not the not massage therapist, it was a not a 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.600 personal trainer. It was along those lines. It just yeah, 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:01.439 it was along those lines. 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:06.520 So she's having threesomes, Vince is there, and then the 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:11.240 text messages that he is sending her you would never 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:15.520 think would come out of this man's mouth. And people 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:18.520 are saying it can't be vinced because look at the 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:23.640 way he's typing. Maybe he did it on purpose, you know, 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:28.880 maybe he didn't want to be accused of anything, so 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:29.920 he wrote. 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:32.880 I don't know, like a like a twelve year old girl. 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.680 That's how Sandman texts me all the time. And he's 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:41.040 more intelligent than that. He makes spelling mistakes and he 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:46.160 shortens words and all this kind of stuff. Maybe Sandman 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:51.959 text Okay, that's a joke everybody, but you know, it 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:56.720 got into this relationship where he was basically pimping her out, 0:12:57.360 --> 0:13:03.079 showing not only you know, his friends, but the w 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:08.480 w E staff members and people that were on the 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:15.319 production crew and you know, talent naked pictures of her. 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:22.000 It's said that he forced her to make sexual videos 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:24.800 not only for him, but for other people. 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:28.960 Unnamed former UFC champion. 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:33.839 Yeah, they took down all of his stuff, but I 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:37.960 guess he's out because of this. She made a video 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:40.760 of her urinating for him. 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:42.680 I mean, sorry, I'm sorry. 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:46.079 Well whatever I've said this many. I don't care what 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:48.880 kind of fetish that you're into. Like whatever floats your 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:53.599 boat is fine, you know, but don't you think that 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:57.240 if you send videos to certain people, they're gonna get 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:58.959 a ray ond? Like she says, Oh, I don't want 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:02.000 anybody saying this stuff? Are you kidding me? 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:02.959 Everybody? 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:06.199 So? 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:09.920 And that he promises there three million dollars only pays 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:14.280 her a million, and that is like, bug off, you know. 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:16.760 I mean, he doesn't even follow through with it. It's 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:22.680 just the story. To me, as badly as I feel 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:26.360 for her, because being in a workplace like that, no 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:28.800 woman should be treated like that. Let me just get 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:33.000 that off my chest. You can't hold that over a 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:37.640 woman's head to keep her job like that's to me, 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:43.440 that is just so sexist and disgusting and humiliating for her, 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:48.080 and but in the same breath she went along with 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:53.680 everything and continued to do so for what two years? Yeah? 0:14:54.760 --> 0:15:01.200 Why why was she so desperate for money that that 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:04.640 was the only job that she could have obtained at 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:11.440 that time? You know, like I feel, I don't know, man, 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:14.200 I feel like if it was me, I would have 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:17.280 turned around and walked out the door the minute I 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:22.280 felt a weird vibe and even before he was in 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:26.800 his underwear, you know what I mean, Like the finger 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:31.040 on the leg like that to me is creepy. That's 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:35.000 touchy feely, that's handsel. There's no reason to touch somebody 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:39.080 like that. And then a long, lingering hug and whispering 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:43.480 in somebody's ear. That's bizarre to me. I'm sorry, I 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:47.200 don't I don't know. And I've been hugged by Vince McMahon. 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:52.280 He did hug me. He didn't whisper anything in my ear. 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:55.440 But uh, you know, I I've had a hug from 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:56.960 from Vince mcmanon before. 0:15:58.400 --> 0:15:58.560 Now. 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:02.440 I know there are in a million stories out there 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:09.840 about Vince with talent. Other people in the office with 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:14.080 talent never knew if they were true or not. You know, 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:18.120 a lot of sources tell me a lot of the 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:27.480 girls got their push because of the casting couch. I 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:29.280 don't know if that's true. 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:32.680 Or not, you know, without naming names. 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:35.000 Of course, I can't name any names because I don't 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:36.760 want to get anybody in heat. 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:40.280 But you know, there's there's plenty of stories out there. 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:44.520 There's a million. I mean, when I worked there, there 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:49.160 were stories floating around. And again when I worked there, 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:54.560 I was told by somebody higher up, if you want to, 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:57.600 you know, be seen, you need to go get a 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:01.960 bottle of oil. I mean, I don't know if I 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:03.800 was supposed to be cooking oil. What kind of oil 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:07.800 this is oil? I don't know. Rubbing oil all over 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:12.639 my boobs and knocking on Vince's door and going in 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:17.200 there and leaning on his desk and trying to get noticed. 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:20.280 That's what I was told to do, and I said, 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:25.800 absolutely not, I'm not doing that. So you know, I 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:33.560 kind of believe what this girl is saying, although you know, 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.399 I wasn't there, so we can't prove it one hundred percent, 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:40.280 but I can see this kind of thing happening. He 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:48.240 is a millionaire. He has so much power. The way 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:51.879 that the guys would follow him like the you know, 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:54.800 the corporates. When I would go to rawl, I would 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:56.800 see him walking down the corridor and he'd have four 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.879 or five guys just following him around everywhere, I mean, 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:01.960 and they would do whatever he told them to do. 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:09.200 The man's got power, you know, power money. I just 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:11.680 don't understand why she didn't walk away. 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:17.720 Two questions that can kind of serve both sides of 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:21.520 the coin. One with what you saw backstage, and then 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:24.000 two kind of what I went through when I applied 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:26.600 and interviewed and then ultimately got the job I had 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:33.200 at the offices, what you saw backstage with Vince at TV, 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:36.639 I was never essentially at a TV taping in the 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:41.240 matter you were, of course, a TV taping stressful. 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:44.199 A TV taping is a crazy day, right. 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:49.240 Vince's interactions with the crew is what I thought was 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:52.919 very funny, because what's the crew to Vince. The guys 0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:55.800 he's sitting in his office with were presumably whomever he 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:58.960 was booking the show with, or the top talent that 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:01.480 was coming in and out. I mean, Vince isn't getting 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:05.080 up there and hanging the banners with the the the 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:07.480 ring crew, or putting up the ring or sitting with 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:08.680 the TV gaffers. 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:10.080 Yeah, you know what I mean. 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:13.280 So that's where I was like, who's the tell the 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:16.919 technical crew or whoever? Like That's that was very murky 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:19.800 to me because it was very vague on who's the 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:22.840 TV crew or the technical crew. 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:27.240 Maybe production in the truck, right, but like that that 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:29.360 wasn't having done in the truck a lot. 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:31.840 But but then so this is where and then I 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:33.720 was like, all right, but it was weird in the 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:36.760 old sense, but in the new sense of Vince wasn't 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:40.320 really in control over the last little while. 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:45.960 Now we got old man Vince sitting like this at TV. Hey, 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:48.159 I'm sitting here at TV. Who wants to see a 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:49.280 picture on my phone? Ha ha? 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:51.720 So then I was like, hmm, maybe it makes sense 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:53.920 that old man Vince is getting pushed out of the 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:57.200 picture and it's trying to get people to like think 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:00.720 he's cool now that he's lost his power and this 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:02.440 is what he's doing. So that's what I thought about that. 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:06.199 Then the second side is, like I said, at the office, now, 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:08.640 granted we're going back to two thousand and six, completely 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:11.640 different world, the level. 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:17.080 Of fear that roam those hallways was palpable. 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:22.000 Yeah, you could not look the wrong direction without getting 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:25.120 heat from somebody. So the fact that she was able 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:31.200 to get in get a promotion, demotion on promotion, and 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:34.360 nobody said anything is incredible to me. So that's where 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:36.760 I just I can't believe it, because you know, it's 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:38.080 all about fear. 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:42.719 They were. But if you if you remember, though, there 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:48.240 were several instances in that in the sixty seven pages 0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:53.120 where she said that the one head wouldn't even look 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:55.640 at her, and that when she would walk his way, 0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:59.399 he would turn and walk another way. So people knew, 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:02.400 but they were aren't saying anything, and they were either 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:05.840 being very mean to her or they were just ignoring 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:10.800 the fact, which you know. And she didn't even work 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:13.640 in the main office. She worked across the street. She said, 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:15.400 she was in the other office. 0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:17.800 And this is that I guess new office. 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:21.000 I suppose so, because this is from twenty nineteen to 0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:27.760 twoenty twenty one ish, right, But what you know. Another 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:33.760 thing that happened to me. I remember I remember showing up. 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:38.960 It was TV and I wasn't booked, and somebody higher 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:41.560 up told me to go sit in the makeup chair 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:44.480 and get my hair and makeup done and put on 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:47.800 a gimmick outfit. And I said, but I'm not working, 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:50.960 and they said, doesn't matter, we want them to see you. 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:55.280 So they made me go in the makeup chair, which 0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:58.119 all the girls that were working, you know, there was 0:21:58.200 --> 0:22:01.520 only one makeup artist, and so you had to like 0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:05.159 kind of like fight your way into that chair sometimes. 0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:09.399 And for me not being on TV that evening and 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:11.320 sitting in that chair, I was like, I know I 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:14.600 have heat now, but they made me sit in a 0:22:14.760 --> 0:22:18.000 chair and get all ready, and then they made me 0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:22.399 roam the halls for Vince to make him see me, 0:22:23.600 --> 0:22:29.840 which was completely for me embarrassing. It's like, what, you know, 0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:33.040 I look ridiculous, And here I am roaming the halls 0:22:33.080 --> 0:22:35.159 trying to find him soon see me. And I finally 0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:36.920 did find him and I said hello, how are you? 0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:39.480 And I shook his hand and he gave me like 0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:42.800 an up and dayn and then he walked away, and 0:22:42.920 --> 0:22:44.639 I'm thinking, well, what am I supposed to do? Now? 0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:51.679 Go follow him? You know, right, just really weird stuff. 0:22:51.920 --> 0:22:55.720 And then at one night stand two thousand and five, 0:22:56.240 --> 0:23:00.159 I remember I went there really wasn't made up to 0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:02.119 the nines because I knew I had to sit in 0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:05.240 the makeup chair that evening, and I went up to 0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:07.600 Vince and I shook his hand and he was just 0:23:07.720 --> 0:23:10.200 like uh huh and blah blah blah and walked away. 0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:14.520 After I sat in the makeup chair, he was walking 0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:19.240 by me and he grabbed my hand and held it 0:23:19.640 --> 0:23:24.880 like this, cupped it and said, I'm Vince, And I said, 0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:29.400 I know, she shut her hand like an hour ago. 0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:31.560 He didn't even realize it was me because of the 0:23:31.760 --> 0:23:33.480 you know, I went in the makeup chair and stuff, 0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:35.520 and he just kind of stared at me, and then 0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:38.600 I kind of took my hand and walked away. I 0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:42.560 was like, what is going on? So you know, again, 0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:47.760 I I get the whole power thing. He's got a 0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:51.879 lot of power. Girls want a spot. They'll do whatever 0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:54.800 to get get on top, get a spot. But would 0:23:54.840 --> 0:24:01.040 Janelle like maybe, I don't know, did she not think 0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:05.200 that she can get a job that like I think 0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:09.119 her initial pay was like eighty thousand dollars. She didn't 0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:13.000 think she was qualified anywhere else to make eighty grand 0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:15.760 for her first year, so that's why she went along 0:24:15.840 --> 0:24:19.040 with what she did. But I mean, you know, she 0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:22.680 was getting the post traumatic stress disorder. Her hair was 0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:27.440 falling out, she was throwing up, she was bleeding, bleeding 0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:31.480 out of her privates. She was down to like one 0:24:31.560 --> 0:24:35.639 hundred pounds because of all of this, having to have 0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:40.480 sex multiple times during the not even per week, per day, 0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:43.919 and she was saying she had to go to Johnny 0:24:44.200 --> 0:24:48.480 Laurenias's room in the morning because she was his breakfast. 0:24:49.160 --> 0:24:53.280 That's what they called it. She was his breakfast several times, 0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:57.120 you know, during the week. It's like how much can 0:24:57.640 --> 0:25:02.440 one woman take? But but she's she's continuing to do it. 0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:09.160 Why didn't she quit? She said she couldn't quit. I guess, 0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:12.400 But why didn't she walk out in the beginning? That's 0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:16.840 what I don't get. I guess she just wanted. I 0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:17.920 wanted to make the money. 0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:20.040 I don't want you go work at Burger King if 0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:21.000 you need a job like that. 0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:24.520 No job is that important if it's your safety and 0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:29.320 it's it's this level of like obsession that you're in 0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:31.920 danger and you're it's at that level. 0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:33.920 So that's what I just there were so many things, 0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:36.959 and again I'm in the exact same position that you are. 0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:39.960 I don't want to come off forming an opinion or 0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:45.639