Speaker 1: Hello, everyone. This is between the Dring Drinking and you
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Speaker 1: had my child host said through with and said, I
Speaker 1: feel like I had not seen you may about twenty years.
Speaker 1: You look a little older than I last remember. But
Speaker 1: how are you doing today, buddy?
Speaker 2: I thought I looked better than last time you saw me.
Speaker 2: That look great. I think I'm rested.
Speaker 3: Are you well?
Speaker 1: I'm not. I just came back from an eighty two
Speaker 1: days ursion in the Disney World, so I'm a little tired.
Speaker 3: Excuse us. Yeah, I'm sorry, but I've just been waiting
Speaker 3: in the chair for you sitting here.
Speaker 1: He's been looking at my screen with a tear coming
Speaker 1: down your face because I wasn't here. But I want
Speaker 1: to thank first of all, before we start. I want
Speaker 1: to thank Joe Burtner and Shane Douglas for filling in
Speaker 1: for me while I was gone. I really appreciate that.
Speaker 1: But I'm back and I hear there's a lot going
Speaker 1: on in the news that I might have missed while
Speaker 1: I was away.
Speaker 2: Geez, you know happened?
Speaker 3: You know, Like, here's the funny part too, like we
Speaker 3: had to have started preparing for your trip in December,
Speaker 3: like yeah, and I mean December, like December thirty first
Speaker 3: where we recorded something and then like you and I
Speaker 3: had like a pad and penn out and we're like,
Speaker 3: all right, when should we like bolk record because I'm
Speaker 3: gonna be away and this is what I'm going and
Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah blah. And it's like, all right,
Speaker 3: that's cool whatever, and you know, and it was this
Speaker 3: person is pegged to guest hosts while you're gone. Okay,
Speaker 3: we got it.
Speaker 2: We only need one week. One Well, who would have.
Speaker 3: Ever expected that? And I put this in big bold
Speaker 3: italic letters, me the biggest story in the history of
Speaker 3: the business breaks and I'm gone week you go away?
Speaker 1: I know, I know. I was dying. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I can't because I was like I
Speaker 1: was reading it between rides, going to ride. I'd get
Speaker 1: off the ride, I'd google something and see what was
Speaker 1: going on and trying to like navigate Disney crowds while
Speaker 1: I'm looking at my phone, absolutely insane. And you know what,
Speaker 1: I was so pissed off too, because remember I told
Speaker 1: you I was going to read the testimonial, the sixty
Speaker 1: seven page gimmick that's out right. So I downloaded and
Speaker 1: I guess I didn't download it to the right thing
Speaker 1: on my iPad. And I get on the plane and
Speaker 1: I'm all ready to read it, and it says you
Speaker 1: must have an Internet connection. I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: So I read it, but I had to read it
Speaker 1: when I came home. I could have read it on
Speaker 1: the plane, but that was what I had planned to
Speaker 1: do on the plane because it's you know, it's a
Speaker 1: long flight. But I did read it, and I'm ready
Speaker 1: to talk about it. And you know, people that are
Speaker 1: listening were coming at you late with these views just
Speaker 1: because I was away for a couple of weeks. So
Speaker 1: for anyone who cares, I'm going to give my two cents.
Speaker 3: And I got it back you up, though, hold on,
Speaker 3: I got it back you up, says Die to talk
Speaker 3: to you.
Speaker 2: You people have no idea. The Queen of Extreme broke
Speaker 2: this news to me because I was off the radar
Speaker 2: that day, and.
Speaker 1: She Douglas too. I texted him and he was.
Speaker 2: Like what Yeah.
Speaker 3: So he was the first person I called when I
Speaker 3: became available.
Speaker 2: And he and I were talking about it, and I.
Speaker 3: I almost felt like I had to ask, like the
Speaker 3: Mafia to do a hit for me, right, And I
Speaker 3: because I was like, Shane, I know you just did
Speaker 3: our show last week just on as a guest, and
Speaker 3: I know you were a part of a very very
Speaker 3: popular and very very good podcast. Would you please do
Speaker 3: us the honor of stepping in tonight to record an
Speaker 3: emergency video? I said, but I need you to go
Speaker 3: through the proper channels, just like with the Mafia hit,
Speaker 3: to get clearance to do this this hit for us, please.
Speaker 2: I was like, I cannot believe that this is happening.
Speaker 2: And to read what the first thing that popped off
Speaker 2: the page was human trafficking.
Speaker 1: Yes, that is disturbing to me that like when I
Speaker 1: think of human trafficking, I think of more so like children.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And because even when I was in the bathroom in
Speaker 1: the Florida airport, there was a big thing in front
Speaker 1: of me, one in English and one in Spanish about
Speaker 1: child trafficking, right, And it was telling like it showed
Speaker 1: I guess sign language or hand signals that you should
Speaker 1: use in the airport if somebody kidnaps you, so the
Speaker 1: officer knows you're being trefied. Yes, And I'm just like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, that's what I think of. So to
Speaker 1: see this associated with Vince McMahon and Johnny Ace and
Speaker 1: all these people, like it's really weird. It just it
Speaker 1: didn't seem correct to me, but I guess it is.
Speaker 1: And and let me just state before we start. Everything
Speaker 1: is allegedly. I always like to point that out, like,
Speaker 1: we don't know who's telling the truth. Janelle Grant came
Speaker 1: out with her you know, her statements, and then that's
Speaker 1: basically that's sixty seven. Is that an affidavit or is it?
Speaker 2: Like I think it's just a we're filing.
Speaker 1: We're filing. Well that's her side of the story, and
Speaker 1: Vince McMahon comes down and says he will prove his innocence.
Speaker 1: So we don't know who's telling the truth and who's not.
Speaker 1: I'm basing like my reactions just to what Janelle Grant
Speaker 1: wrote and said happened. If it's true what she said,
Speaker 1: then oh my god, the things that were in there.
Speaker 1: The let's start from the beginning.
Speaker 2: To romance novel brave not.
Speaker 1: Romantic at all. Although I think according to her, I
Speaker 1: think Vince tried to be romantic a couple of times
Speaker 1: and failed. The The beginning of the story is basically,
Speaker 1: this woman, Janelle Grant, her parents pass away. She's distraught.
Speaker 1: She was a caregiver for them for many many years.
Speaker 1: Didn't work, Uh, needed a job to maintain I guess
Speaker 1: her lifestyle. She's in the same apartment complex as Vincent Man. Correct, yeah, building, okay, yes,
Speaker 1: Now you know when when you think of apartment complexes
Speaker 1: and Vince McMahon, I think of kind of an upper class.
Speaker 2: Place, you know, Jefferson, you know, really really nice.
Speaker 1: Now what I don't understand. First of all, in reading everything,
Speaker 1: she meets Vince through somebody who works.
Speaker 2: In the building, the building manager, right, okay, and he.
Speaker 1: Says, I'll get you in touch with Vince McMahon and
Speaker 1: maybe he can help you. So he's showing pity on
Speaker 1: Janelle Grant. She meets Vince McMahon she uh through text
Speaker 1: messaging I believe was their first encounter or something like that,
Speaker 1: and actually is invited up to his apartment. Now it's
Speaker 1: been rumored for years that him and Linda have been
Speaker 1: separated and living separate lives for years. But what I
Speaker 1: don't get, and I'm jumping ahead here, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to probably jump back and forth. When he's talking to Janelle,
Speaker 1: he's saying, I don't want my wife to find out
Speaker 1: about this. I don't want to get a divorce if
Speaker 1: they're separated. That's something that I didn't understand. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: let me get so we'll get back to that.
Speaker 2: But he says, but he's but there is reference to
Speaker 2: his ex, right, she's history.
Speaker 1: But then who cares if she finds out?
Speaker 3: I think that the public, like was Linda to be
Speaker 3: honest with you, because since the public.
Speaker 1: Four people that were not named, I was getting so confused.
Speaker 1: Number one, number.
Speaker 2: Two, number three, w W executive one.
Speaker 1: Let's call this one Ralph. Let's call this one Joe.
Speaker 1: I mean, it would have been much easier. So anyway,
Speaker 1: so they meet and I guess Vince starts talking to her,
Speaker 1: and I guess she tells him that she's looking for,
Speaker 1: you know, a position, a job, And it gets weird.
Speaker 1: It gets weird, like right away he starts talking about
Speaker 1: like a surgery that he had on his leg, and
Speaker 1: he draws a line on her on her leg to
Speaker 1: show where the knee surgery was. And so right off
Speaker 1: the bat it's like the touchy feely thing is coming out,
Speaker 1: and then from there it just it gets weirder. It's
Speaker 1: it's like he tells her to meet him, and then
Speaker 1: he comes out in his underwear, standing in his underwear. Uh,
Speaker 1: he says he wants to hold her. Uh, it's just
Speaker 1: when he hugs her, he whispered, what did he whisper?
Speaker 4: Like this is nice or so nice or like weird
Speaker 4: weird stuff. It just as for kisses on uh, you know,
Speaker 4: a kiss she kissed him on the He says, that's
Speaker 4: not what I meant.
Speaker 1: Yes, just weird things. Now for me as a woman,
Speaker 1: that would be a signal right then and there to
Speaker 1: get my ass out of here. This is not a
Speaker 1: job that I want to me. She continued to go
Speaker 1: and push too this relationship with him. She says that
Speaker 1: she was kind of like forced into it, and if
Speaker 1: you go one with the story, it just leads to
Speaker 1: her getting deeper and deeper into this relationship with Vince
Speaker 1: in order to keep her job. And then Vince takes
Speaker 1: in Johnny Ace, who now says that Vince was trafficking.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't need to be laughing. The bad
Speaker 1: statement was ridiculous to me. I I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: But then like other people like who wasn't Vincent, wasn't
Speaker 1: Vince's chiropractor or somebody?
Speaker 2: Yeah it was uh oh gosh, was it was it? No,
Speaker 2: not the not massage therapist, it was a not a
Speaker 2: personal trainer. It was along those lines. It just yeah,
Speaker 2: it was along those lines.
Speaker 1: So she's having threesomes, Vince is there, and then the
Speaker 1: text messages that he is sending her you would never
Speaker 1: think would come out of this man's mouth. And people
Speaker 1: are saying it can't be vinced because look at the
Speaker 1: way he's typing. Maybe he did it on purpose, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe he didn't want to be accused of anything, so
Speaker 1: he wrote.
Speaker 2: I don't know, like a like a twelve year old girl.
Speaker 1: That's how Sandman texts me all the time. And he's
Speaker 1: more intelligent than that. He makes spelling mistakes and he
Speaker 1: shortens words and all this kind of stuff. Maybe Sandman
Speaker 1: text Okay, that's a joke everybody, but you know, it
Speaker 1: got into this relationship where he was basically pimping her out,
Speaker 1: showing not only you know, his friends, but the w
Speaker 1: w E staff members and people that were on the
Speaker 1: production crew and you know, talent naked pictures of her.
Speaker 1: It's said that he forced her to make sexual videos
Speaker 1: not only for him, but for other people.
Speaker 2: Unnamed former UFC champion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they took down all of his stuff, but I
Speaker 1: guess he's out because of this. She made a video
Speaker 1: of her urinating for him.
Speaker 2: I mean, sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Well whatever I've said this many. I don't care what
Speaker 1: kind of fetish that you're into. Like whatever floats your
Speaker 1: boat is fine, you know, but don't you think that
Speaker 1: if you send videos to certain people, they're gonna get
Speaker 1: a ray ond? Like she says, Oh, I don't want
Speaker 1: anybody saying this stuff? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: Everybody?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 1: And that he promises there three million dollars only pays
Speaker 1: her a million, and that is like, bug off, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, he doesn't even follow through with it. It's
Speaker 1: just the story. To me, as badly as I feel
Speaker 1: for her, because being in a workplace like that, no
Speaker 1: woman should be treated like that. Let me just get
Speaker 1: that off my chest. You can't hold that over a
Speaker 1: woman's head to keep her job like that's to me,
Speaker 1: that is just so sexist and disgusting and humiliating for her,
Speaker 1: and but in the same breath she went along with
Speaker 1: everything and continued to do so for what two years? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Why why was she so desperate for money that that
Speaker 1: was the only job that she could have obtained at
Speaker 1: that time? You know, like I feel, I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I feel like if it was me, I would have
Speaker 1: turned around and walked out the door the minute I
Speaker 1: felt a weird vibe and even before he was in
Speaker 1: his underwear, you know what I mean, Like the finger
Speaker 1: on the leg like that to me is creepy. That's
Speaker 1: touchy feely, that's handsel. There's no reason to touch somebody
Speaker 1: like that. And then a long, lingering hug and whispering
Speaker 1: in somebody's ear. That's bizarre to me. I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know. And I've been hugged by Vince McMahon.
Speaker 1: He did hug me. He didn't whisper anything in my ear.
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, I I've had a hug from
Speaker 1: from Vince mcmanon before.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I know there are in a million stories out there
Speaker 1: about Vince with talent. Other people in the office with
Speaker 1: talent never knew if they were true or not. You know,
Speaker 1: a lot of sources tell me a lot of the
Speaker 1: girls got their push because of the casting couch. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's true.
Speaker 2: Or not, you know, without naming names.
Speaker 1: Of course, I can't name any names because I don't
Speaker 1: want to get anybody in heat.
Speaker 2: But you know, there's there's plenty of stories out there.
Speaker 1: There's a million. I mean, when I worked there, there
Speaker 1: were stories floating around. And again when I worked there,
Speaker 1: I was told by somebody higher up, if you want to,
Speaker 1: you know, be seen, you need to go get a
Speaker 1: bottle of oil. I mean, I don't know if I
Speaker 1: was supposed to be cooking oil. What kind of oil
Speaker 1: this is oil? I don't know. Rubbing oil all over
Speaker 1: my boobs and knocking on Vince's door and going in
Speaker 1: there and leaning on his desk and trying to get noticed.
Speaker 1: That's what I was told to do, and I said,
Speaker 1: absolutely not, I'm not doing that. So you know, I
Speaker 1: kind of believe what this girl is saying, although you know,
Speaker 1: I wasn't there, so we can't prove it one hundred percent,
Speaker 1: but I can see this kind of thing happening. He
Speaker 1: is a millionaire. He has so much power. The way
Speaker 1: that the guys would follow him like the you know,
Speaker 1: the corporates. When I would go to rawl, I would
Speaker 1: see him walking down the corridor and he'd have four
Speaker 1: or five guys just following him around everywhere, I mean,
Speaker 1: and they would do whatever he told them to do.
Speaker 1: The man's got power, you know, power money. I just
Speaker 1: don't understand why she didn't walk away.
Speaker 3: Two questions that can kind of serve both sides of
Speaker 3: the coin. One with what you saw backstage, and then
Speaker 3: two kind of what I went through when I applied
Speaker 3: and interviewed and then ultimately got the job I had
Speaker 3: at the offices, what you saw backstage with Vince at TV,
Speaker 3: I was never essentially at a TV taping in the
Speaker 3: matter you were, of course, a TV taping stressful.
Speaker 2: A TV taping is a crazy day, right.
Speaker 3: Vince's interactions with the crew is what I thought was
Speaker 3: very funny, because what's the crew to Vince. The guys
Speaker 3: he's sitting in his office with were presumably whomever he
Speaker 3: was booking the show with, or the top talent that
Speaker 3: was coming in and out. I mean, Vince isn't getting
Speaker 3: up there and hanging the banners with the the the
Speaker 3: ring crew, or putting up the ring or sitting with
Speaker 3: the TV gaffers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So that's where I was like, who's the tell the
Speaker 3: technical crew or whoever? Like That's that was very murky
Speaker 3: to me because it was very vague on who's the
Speaker 3: TV crew or the technical crew.
Speaker 1: Maybe production in the truck, right, but like that that
Speaker 1: wasn't having done in the truck a lot.
Speaker 3: But but then so this is where and then I
Speaker 3: was like, all right, but it was weird in the
Speaker 3: old sense, but in the new sense of Vince wasn't
Speaker 3: really in control over the last little while.
Speaker 2: Now we got old man Vince sitting like this at TV. Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm sitting here at TV. Who wants to see a
Speaker 2: picture on my phone? Ha ha?
Speaker 3: So then I was like, hmm, maybe it makes sense
Speaker 3: that old man Vince is getting pushed out of the
Speaker 3: picture and it's trying to get people to like think
Speaker 3: he's cool now that he's lost his power and this
Speaker 3: is what he's doing. So that's what I thought about that.
Speaker 3: Then the second side is, like I said, at the office, now,
Speaker 3: granted we're going back to two thousand and six, completely
Speaker 3: different world, the level.
Speaker 2: Of fear that roam those hallways was palpable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could not look the wrong direction without getting
Speaker 3: heat from somebody. So the fact that she was able
Speaker 3: to get in get a promotion, demotion on promotion, and
Speaker 3: nobody said anything is incredible to me. So that's where
Speaker 3: I just I can't believe it, because you know, it's
Speaker 3: all about fear.
Speaker 1: They were. But if you if you remember, though, there
Speaker 1: were several instances in that in the sixty seven pages
Speaker 1: where she said that the one head wouldn't even look
Speaker 1: at her, and that when she would walk his way,
Speaker 1: he would turn and walk another way. So people knew,
Speaker 1: but they were aren't saying anything, and they were either
Speaker 1: being very mean to her or they were just ignoring
Speaker 1: the fact, which you know. And she didn't even work
Speaker 1: in the main office. She worked across the street. She said,
Speaker 1: she was in the other office.
Speaker 2: And this is that I guess new office.
Speaker 1: I suppose so, because this is from twenty nineteen to
Speaker 1: twoenty twenty one ish, right, But what you know. Another
Speaker 1: thing that happened to me. I remember I remember showing up.
Speaker 1: It was TV and I wasn't booked, and somebody higher
Speaker 1: up told me to go sit in the makeup chair
Speaker 1: and get my hair and makeup done and put on
Speaker 1: a gimmick outfit. And I said, but I'm not working,
Speaker 1: and they said, doesn't matter, we want them to see you.
Speaker 1: So they made me go in the makeup chair, which
Speaker 1: all the girls that were working, you know, there was
Speaker 1: only one makeup artist, and so you had to like
Speaker 1: kind of like fight your way into that chair sometimes.
Speaker 1: And for me not being on TV that evening and
Speaker 1: sitting in that chair, I was like, I know I
Speaker 1: have heat now, but they made me sit in a
Speaker 1: chair and get all ready, and then they made me
Speaker 1: roam the halls for Vince to make him see me,
Speaker 1: which was completely for me embarrassing. It's like, what, you know,
Speaker 1: I look ridiculous, And here I am roaming the halls
Speaker 1: trying to find him soon see me. And I finally
Speaker 1: did find him and I said hello, how are you?
Speaker 1: And I shook his hand and he gave me like
Speaker 1: an up and dayn and then he walked away, and
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, well, what am I supposed to do? Now?
Speaker 1: Go follow him? You know, right, just really weird stuff.
Speaker 1: And then at one night stand two thousand and five,
Speaker 1: I remember I went there really wasn't made up to
Speaker 1: the nines because I knew I had to sit in
Speaker 1: the makeup chair that evening, and I went up to
Speaker 1: Vince and I shook his hand and he was just
Speaker 1: like uh huh and blah blah blah and walked away.
Speaker 1: After I sat in the makeup chair, he was walking
Speaker 1: by me and he grabbed my hand and held it
Speaker 1: like this, cupped it and said, I'm Vince, And I said,
Speaker 1: I know, she shut her hand like an hour ago.
Speaker 1: He didn't even realize it was me because of the
Speaker 1: you know, I went in the makeup chair and stuff,
Speaker 1: and he just kind of stared at me, and then
Speaker 1: I kind of took my hand and walked away. I
Speaker 1: was like, what is going on? So you know, again,
Speaker 1: I I get the whole power thing. He's got a
Speaker 1: lot of power. Girls want a spot. They'll do whatever
Speaker 1: to get get on top, get a spot. But would
Speaker 1: Janelle like maybe, I don't know, did she not think
Speaker 1: that she can get a job that like I think
Speaker 1: her initial pay was like eighty thousand dollars. She didn't
Speaker 1: think she was qualified anywhere else to make eighty grand
Speaker 1: for her first year, so that's why she went along
Speaker 1: with what she did. But I mean, you know, she
Speaker 1: was getting the post traumatic stress disorder. Her hair was
Speaker 1: falling out, she was throwing up, she was bleeding, bleeding
Speaker 1: out of her privates. She was down to like one
Speaker 1: hundred pounds because of all of this, having to have
Speaker 1: sex multiple times during the not even per week, per day,
Speaker 1: and she was saying she had to go to Johnny
Speaker 1: Laurenias's room in the morning because she was his breakfast.
Speaker 1: That's what they called it. She was his breakfast several times,
Speaker 1: you know, during the week. It's like how much can
Speaker 1: one woman take? But but she's she's continuing to do it.
Speaker 1: Why didn't she quit? She said she couldn't quit. I guess,
Speaker 1: But why didn't she walk out in the beginning? That's
Speaker 1: what I don't get. I guess she just wanted. I
Speaker 1: wanted to make the money.
Speaker 2: I don't want you go work at Burger King if
Speaker 2: you need a job like that.
Speaker 3: No job is that important if it's your safety and
Speaker 3: it's it's this level of like obsession that you're in
Speaker 3: danger and you're it's at that level.
Speaker 2: So that's what I just there were so many things,
Speaker 2: and again I'm in the exact same position that you are.
Speaker 3: I don't want to come off forming an opinion or
Speaker 3: say anything negative when you're you know, yeah, it's just
Speaker 3: incredible some of this stuff. And again, and I'm going
Speaker 3: back to my own personal interview experience. I went through
Speaker 3: like ten interviews to.
Speaker 5: Get like a twelve dollars an hour job, you know,
Speaker 5: and it's like, what the fuck, Like it's crazy just
Speaker 5: because you know, I didn't have that high rise apartment,
Speaker 5: I guess, And.
Speaker 1: You know, it's very frustrating to you because like in
Speaker 1: my case, I had so much experience under my belt.
Speaker 1: I had thirteen years in the business when I when
Speaker 1: I went to work there, and I was very very
Speaker 1: confident on my ability to speak on the mic, to
Speaker 1: take bumps to work. I kept myself in shape for
Speaker 1: my age. I mean, I was thirty four years old,
Speaker 1: and to be told that I needed to do these
Speaker 1: things to be recognized and you know, to be put
Speaker 1: on the TV taping like, I was like, you can
Speaker 1: take this and stick it up your ass. I'm not
Speaker 1: doing this, you know. And maybe that's why I got fired.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I had asked for my release and
Speaker 1: they had said no, and then a month and a
Speaker 1: half later it was like Johnny Ace, I got nothing
Speaker 1: for you. And I'm just like, oh, really, you have
Speaker 1: nothing for me. I guess you didn't think hard enough.
Speaker 2: Because he was trying to say, what are you doing
Speaker 2: for breakfast?
Speaker 1: I'm not somebody's breakfast. I'll tell you that right now.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm not trying to come off as insensitive
Speaker 1: because I do feel bad for her. The things that
Speaker 1: I've read were horrific and no woman should ever have
Speaker 1: to go through that. Let's just make that very very clear.
Speaker 1: The men involved, if true, are a bunch of scumbags.
Speaker 1: They're pigs, and you know, Evince did this, if Johnny
Speaker 1: did this, they're disgusting. And you know, hopefully if it
Speaker 1: comes to the point where they say this happened, hopefully
Speaker 1: they'll get their day and be punished for it. But
Speaker 1: you know, I just I don't understand why a female
Speaker 1: would put themselves in that position in the first place.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying she was asking for it, because I
Speaker 1: don't believe she was. I just feel like there are
Speaker 1: there were signs that me reading it as a female,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, there's a signer there, I'm out the door.
Speaker 1: Oh there's another one, Seya. Wouldn't I wouldn't even accept
Speaker 1: the phone call, like there were things in there that
Speaker 1: were so weird that would give me like a creeper
Speaker 1: vibe and I would just have to leave. Why did
Speaker 1: she say? What did she think was gonna happen? You know? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And uh, just to kind of piggyback off of your
Speaker 2: your stories. So there have been stories shared.
Speaker 3: By some people and maybe more by fans too, But
Speaker 3: the big one is Ashley Massarow, who passed away a
Speaker 3: few years ago. If you remember back in our in
Speaker 3: our history, you were at my show in Richmond, Virginia
Speaker 3: when Ashley Missarrow passed away.
Speaker 2: I remember it more than you do, more than likely.
Speaker 3: But the story about Ashley miss Arrow and the whatever
Speaker 3: it was, the tribute to the troops incident that was
Speaker 3: around then, that story and that was being banned about
Speaker 3: back then, and that was twenty and eighteen, twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: So the fact that that came back around now, this
Speaker 2: is not good for Vince McMahon. I mean, so this
Speaker 2: is just Janelle Grant.
Speaker 3: That doesn't include the thirty million other dollars that are
Speaker 3: apparently tied up in these NDAs that he was writing
Speaker 3: without WWE knowledge and apparently, like you know, it's it's
Speaker 3: not really got much ground or something because of the
Speaker 3: way he did it. So he did it the way
Speaker 3: he wanted to do it. But the Ashley Massaro thing
Speaker 3: is really, really, really bad when you look.
Speaker 1: Back at it, and there somebody just came out and
Speaker 1: said that they knew and they kept quiet. Yeah, Johnny Ace,
Speaker 1: it was Johnny that said that.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, Johnny fully fully came out and said
Speaker 3: he knew that she went to Johnny Ason Vince and
Speaker 3: they did not want to disrupt their relationship with the
Speaker 3: military and all the goodwill they had had with the
Speaker 3: military to that point.
Speaker 2: And that basically, if you want to find out, you
Speaker 2: can file a.
Speaker 3: Freedom of Information Act and get whatever the investigation is
Speaker 3: that they've done. And you know, poor Ashley mass Arrow,
Speaker 3: you know like that, it's it's it's heartbreaking that she
Speaker 3: suffered the way she did. There was no justice and
Speaker 3: unfortunately she'll never ever ever know what the final verdict
Speaker 3: is gonna be because this it's just it sucks. And
Speaker 3: this is jumping ahead a little bit with Vince, but like,
Speaker 3: where do you kind of stand with the historical piece
Speaker 3: with him.
Speaker 1: From everything?
Speaker 3: If we just put out a video about Vince a
Speaker 3: week before you went on vacation, laughing and joking.
Speaker 1: Haha.
Speaker 3: Here he is on your video music video thing and
Speaker 3: we're laughing, and.
Speaker 1: Here he is, like, how many women are there that
Speaker 1: were victimized by Vince McMahon that have kept their mouths shut?
Speaker 1: Because a big part of this, you know, this thing
Speaker 1: by Janelle whatever it's called, I don't even know, she's
Speaker 1: saying that she wants to be the voice of the
Speaker 1: women who are silent, who can't come forward, and maybe
Speaker 1: this will trigger them to realize, you know, we need
Speaker 1: to stand together and we need to basically put this
Speaker 1: guy in his place. Right, So what you said, so
Speaker 1: many things are out there. How many girls or women
Speaker 1: did he have to pay off to keep quiet hush money?
Speaker 1: How many women did he you know, demoralize, victimize the
Speaker 1: word I can't use the word because you know, I don't,
Speaker 1: but force himself upon when she said no repeat? How
Speaker 1: many women did he do that too? How many women
Speaker 1: have fell victim to this man and to his cronies
Speaker 1: that he let borrow or share or whatever the term is, trafficking,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever they're calling it. How many women are
Speaker 1: involved in this that don't have a voice that are
Speaker 1: scared to speak about it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: whether it's because they're getting paid off still, whether it's
Speaker 1: because they might think people might look at them as
Speaker 1: a whoror whether it's because they were married at the
Speaker 1: time and they wanted to push How many women has
Speaker 1: he done this too? There's gotta be tens of hundreds
Speaker 1: of women out there, So when you read something like this,
Speaker 1: is it that far fetched? Not? Really? The one thing
Speaker 1: that I was taken aback with was him defecating.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought it up because that part.
Speaker 3: I was just like, did you read the full details?
Speaker 1: I read everything. I read everything. I mean, is he
Speaker 1: that twisted?
Speaker 2: That's the one that almost every detail I remember, like verbatim.
Speaker 2: I don't know why really, because it was so ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It's so I mean, I got sick. He went to
Speaker 1: shower and she had to continue servicing the friend while
Speaker 1: she had uh, you know, all over her sh I'm like,
Speaker 1: are you what? Like? Who who does this? How dementute?
Speaker 1: If that is a true eat men? How the minute
Speaker 1: is this? Man? I don't head around there?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like, I mean, he's so she's you know,
Speaker 3: so vice is into scatologically, you know, play there's urination.
Speaker 3: I mean this, this is fetishes, this is domination.
Speaker 1: This is talking about Africa.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I mean, wait time out.
Speaker 2: How about how about the sex toys named.
Speaker 3: After the w.
Speaker 2: And did you read through the tea leaves onto who
Speaker 2: one was?
Speaker 3: Did you did you catch on who the one sex
Speaker 3: toy was named after.
Speaker 1: A smaller wrestler, he said.
Speaker 2: Smaller wrestler.
Speaker 3: I believe it was who had faced adversity. And I'm
Speaker 3: this is my speculation and some stuff I had read.
Speaker 1: I who was it? Say it?
Speaker 2: I think that one of the sex toys was named Kofe.
Speaker 1: Kofe. I thought one of them was Hornswoggle because they
Speaker 1: said like a smaller wrestler. I thought it was Dylan.
Speaker 3: I think it was Kofe because it was around the time.
Speaker 3: And this is the other thing that ties into Brock allegedly,
Speaker 3: sorry excuse me, former.
Speaker 2: UFC champion WW Superstars who it is resigned a contract.
Speaker 3: All the stuff that happened with Brock and the resigning
Speaker 3: of the contract and like like his title victory, I
Speaker 3: think was all like lined up with like the koffee stuff,
Speaker 3: and he suffered a big one it's all like KOFE.
Speaker 1: So look, I don't know who was who, but it's weird,
Speaker 1: like weird stuff, like they were saying she was leading
Speaker 1: because he was fisting her.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you're gonna have to You're gonna have to
Speaker 2: beat some of this.
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not laughing, No, not laughing because of
Speaker 3: the severity of the nature of ridiculous.
Speaker 1: This is five years ago. He's what now, seventy six,
Speaker 1: he was seventy one years old when he's doing all
Speaker 1: of this stuff with with dildo's and pooping on he's
Speaker 1: an old man.
Speaker 3: What the hell?
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Like stop.
Speaker 3: So there's also been some word about things that have
Speaker 3: come out, like Shane McMahon. Why Shane McMahon decided to
Speaker 3: really distance himself because he didn't want to be like
Speaker 3: his father, did not want to be a part of
Speaker 3: any of this.
Speaker 1: So he is McMahon. I love Shane, But you know
Speaker 1: what is so.
Speaker 2: Great about effect? You have said that forever, and you
Speaker 2: are not the only one.
Speaker 3: I've heard this on other shows, other former people from
Speaker 3: the company saying the same thing. So what is it
Speaker 3: about Shane that made him so different?
Speaker 1: Maybe Linda was a good mother and a good role
Speaker 1: model and a good figure to the children. Maybe he
Speaker 1: took after his mother. I don't know anything about Linda.
Speaker 1: I've never heard anything about Linda. I mean, I feel
Speaker 1: bad for her for having to put up with him
Speaker 1: for all these years. Could you imagine being married to
Speaker 1: this man and being a figure she was talented for
Speaker 1: a long time and having to endure like I'm sure
Speaker 1: when she walked in, everybody just shut up and stood
Speaker 1: at attendance. And you know she's missus McMahon. But you
Speaker 1: don't think she heard anything. You don't think she knew stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's not a dumb woman. There's ways you could find
Speaker 1: out they're rich. They could get private investigators and stuff
Speaker 1: follow you around.
Speaker 3: But even with like you said, with talent, and when
Speaker 3: Vince was in his late fifties, you know he's banning
Speaker 3: out twenty something Tris Stratus and making out with her
Speaker 3: on TV in front of the comatose Linda McMahon, you know,
Speaker 3: on television, might be something he had to sit her
Speaker 3: down to convince this is best for business.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not saying did anything behind the scenes. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying oh no, no, no, no. They on the air.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I couldn't imagine being his wife and
Speaker 1: having to endure that type of thing. But in the
Speaker 1: case of Shane, I mean, you know, maybe maybe he's
Speaker 1: just you know, he's just a good person. I've never
Speaker 1: heard anything like when I work, I never heard anything
Speaker 1: about Shane cheating on his wife. I always heard he
Speaker 1: was a good family man who loved his boys, loved
Speaker 1: his wife. You know, I don't I don't know the McMahon, so,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what goes on behind closed doors.
Speaker 1: But I always heard that he was the good one.
Speaker 1: It was the righteous man.
Speaker 3: I've heard a couple of people say Shane is my
Speaker 3: favorite mcmah and he's he's always say it. You say it,
Speaker 3: and you've always said it vociferously.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, I you know, as far as
Speaker 1: Linda goes, I feel bad for her. But she had power.
Speaker 1: She tolerates. I guess she tolerated him for years. They
Speaker 1: had children together, and you're used to a lifestyle, a
Speaker 1: certain lifestyle, and maybe she didn't want to give it up.
Speaker 1: I don't know. All I know is I could not
Speaker 1: go through that. There's no way that's It's just this
Speaker 1: whole story just makes me think how many more stories
Speaker 1: are out there? And who's coming next? You're going to
Speaker 1: open their mouth next, So you know there's more than
Speaker 1: Janelle Tons. She's not the only one. And then it
Speaker 1: brought it back to the referee I believe in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety four.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well the incident was in the eighties and
Speaker 2: the suit was in the nineties.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, oh eighty was it eighty four?
Speaker 2: She was there was no it was night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was some of eighty four eighty five where
Speaker 3: the limo incident's happened.
Speaker 2: But then she filed much later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so she is claiming that she was, I guess,
Speaker 1: forced to have sex with Vince McMahon in a limousine
Speaker 1: in order to keep her job. And again, like, fire me,
Speaker 1: get me out of this limit. I would never. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't never.
Speaker 3: I just I just couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: I couldn't do it.
Speaker 3: Well, let's go back to that if you can, If
Speaker 3: that's all right, when you talk about that incident with
Speaker 3: the oil, right, yeah, and when they when they asked
Speaker 3: you to do that, Yeah, when you said no, were
Speaker 3: you met with a surprise reaction or were you met
Speaker 3: with a like oh whatever, and then like moved on
Speaker 3: because they they asked us to everybody every time they come.
Speaker 2: Through that hallway.
Speaker 3: So what was the reaction like when they when you
Speaker 3: were absolutely opposed to it?
Speaker 1: So I was crying. I was literally crying at this point.
Speaker 1: I'm standing. I remember I was standing in a very
Speaker 1: closed it wasn't a hallway, but it was like there
Speaker 1: might have been like one of those trunks, you know,
Speaker 1: with the trunks that they had, the big blue trunks.
Speaker 1: I might have been between a trunk and a wall
Speaker 1: or something. And I'm having this conversation with this higher
Speaker 1: up guy. I'm not going to say who it is,
Speaker 1: and they're, you know, they're telling me what to do,
Speaker 1: and I was just sobbing and he was just like, well,
Speaker 1: it'll get you noticed or something to that effect. And
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not doing it. I'm just not
Speaker 1: doing it. I said I want to go home, and
Speaker 1: basically it was just like, okay, trying to help. I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to help you. And I was just like,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it, you know, and let me. I'm
Speaker 1: going on record, Vince never made a pass at me,
Speaker 1: Like he's never been inappropriate, Like the one time went
Speaker 1: on Vince that was just weird. It was like, I
Speaker 1: guess he liked the way I looked when I came
Speaker 1: out of a makeup chair, but he's never never done
Speaker 1: anything like inappropriate towards me. I just want to put
Speaker 1: that out there before this, you know, blows up or whatever.
Speaker 1: But it's like I was pissed off because and I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to be, you know, an asshole, but I
Speaker 1: know I have talent. I know I'm talented. I know
Speaker 1: what I can do in the ring. And when when
Speaker 1: you have somebody who has experience and who knows what
Speaker 1: they're doing to be told to just you know, go
Speaker 1: in there and just do something like that. I've never
Speaker 1: been told to do anything like that in my life.
Speaker 1: When I worked for ECW, I didn't have to sleep
Speaker 1: with Paul or anybody like. It was just my talent.
Speaker 1: I go to a place like this and it's just
Speaker 1: all I hear is like this one's doing this, and
Speaker 1: this one's doing that, and this one's with this one.
Speaker 1: I'm just a good Lord. Do they not look at
Speaker 1: a person and say, well, they're a really good worker,
Speaker 1: you know, or they're really good on the mic, or Okay,
Speaker 1: they're a pretty girl, but they have tail only the talent. Really,
Speaker 1: to me, that wasn't in play. It was like, what
Speaker 1: are you gonna do to get him to notice you?
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, well, Frank, who hired me? I
Speaker 1: want to know who hired me? And when? When I
Speaker 1: had that walk with Vince, I asked him why am
Speaker 1: I here? Like, you don't know anything about me? You
Speaker 1: don't know anything about ECW. You have our tape library,
Speaker 1: you bought the tape library. Well, I don't watch it.
Speaker 1: He has people watch his stuff for him, you know.
Speaker 1: And he told me point blank, I don't know anything
Speaker 1: about ECW. I don't know anything about your work. This
Speaker 1: is your company, and I'm hired and you don't know
Speaker 1: a thing about me or about my colleagues that came
Speaker 1: in with me. What kind of bullshit is that? You know?
Speaker 1: It was such a it was such an uncomfortable conversation.
Speaker 1: And we're walking around the building, mind you, just me
Speaker 1: and him, you know, and I'm looking at him like, dude,
Speaker 1: you gotta be ribbing me? Is this a rib? You know?
Speaker 1: I just I've never heard of somebody being hired and
Speaker 1: the boss doesn't know anything about them. It's unbelievable, you know.
Speaker 1: And then that's where the whole what he got for me,
Speaker 1: Vince came from. You know. I had to go chase
Speaker 1: him down the next night, and that's when he gave
Speaker 1: me that big hug. That's my girl, and he gave
Speaker 1: me this big, tight hug. And then my name was
Speaker 1: on the wall and I'm thinking, huh, but it didn't
Speaker 1: stay there. Why didn't it stay there? I don't know.
Speaker 3: Now I have a question for you after reading the
Speaker 3: sixty seven page filing. Much like he answered the door
Speaker 3: for Janelle Grant when he gave her a hug, was
Speaker 3: he where in his underwear when he gave you the hug?
Speaker 1: No? He was wearing a suit.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Sorry, he pulled me.
Speaker 1: I was in line for my draw and he pulled
Speaker 1: me out of line. Francine, can I speak to you?
Speaker 1: And I was like this. I was like, there's a
Speaker 1: voice coming, what's going on. I didn't expect it because
Speaker 1: I had come out of Johnny Ace's office crying and
Speaker 1: I was told just go get your go, get your draw,
Speaker 1: get you know, all right, I'll get my draw and
Speaker 1: I'm standing there and then Vince, you know, I took
Speaker 1: my ten minute stroll with Vince, but he was never
Speaker 1: inappropriate with me. It was just, uh, you know, do
Speaker 1: this to get noticed, do that to get noticed. So
Speaker 1: with with my experience there and with listening to the
Speaker 1: stories about what other girls did or you know, what
Speaker 1: they had to endure or what was suggested to them,
Speaker 1: like Tory Wilson, I think just came out and said
Speaker 1: Vince wanted her to do you know, to do more
Speaker 1: or something like. It's it's just like, is this so
Speaker 1: hard to believe? Really? Yeah, And the answer is no,
Speaker 1: it's not hard to believe. But the scenarios are bizarre world.
Speaker 1: And that's to me looking at him, like I would
Speaker 1: never look at him and think, oh, he's into Scott,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he's a corporate businessman
Speaker 1: and an older corporate businessman tamboo. So just to see
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff in print threw me for a loop.
Speaker 1: So like my analysis of this, like I feel bad
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. I feel horrible for her for what
Speaker 1: she had to endure, But if she just would have
Speaker 1: walked out in the beginning, it would have never happened, right,
Speaker 1: So there you go. I mean, I don't know you
Speaker 1: can only go along with something for so long. And
Speaker 1: I don't know where she thought this would end up,
Speaker 1: Like where did what? Did she think she was going
Speaker 1: to be like his wife in the end or something like.
Speaker 3: I don't think she had any kind of desire based
Speaker 3: off of what I read. It just didn't seem like
Speaker 3: it was a desire for that.
Speaker 1: No, But why, I like y she had to have
Speaker 1: known that the relationship wasn't going to end well. She
Speaker 1: like she was going to lose her job as she
Speaker 1: stopped screwing on. So, I mean, I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: just bizarre. If you haven't read it, it's online, you
Speaker 1: can read it. It's sixty seven pages. It really didn't
Speaker 1: take me that long to read, I don't think. But
Speaker 1: there's just a lot of stuff in there. And again,
Speaker 1: I feel terrible for her. I feel terrible for any
Speaker 1: woman who has been taking advantage of because they did
Speaker 1: take advantage of her one hundred percent one hundred percent,
Speaker 1: But she's it was kind of like she was playing
Speaker 1: along with it to keep her job. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't know if she felt trapped, if she was afraid,
Speaker 1: she was afraid of physical harm, because there are there
Speaker 1: was an instance where she said he hit her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 1: So you know, again, like, who do you believe?
Speaker 3: As the interviews start to come out to you know,
Speaker 3: people are gonna start doing podcasts and then they have been.
Speaker 3: People are gonna get asked questions. You know, people are
Speaker 3: also releasing statements. I listened to click this to Kevin
Speaker 3: Nash podcast. He was a little I would say, a
Speaker 3: little laissez fair when it comes to answering the question,
Speaker 3: because he said, you know, since Triple H is his buddy,
Speaker 3: he doesn't really want to comment on it and he's
Speaker 3: not going to read it because of that.
Speaker 2: But he wasn't as like I would say fair with
Speaker 2: his breakdown of the whole thing.
Speaker 3: He kind of like took shots at Janelle Grant's lawyer
Speaker 3: and like he said that the texts seemed like more
Speaker 3: fantasy play, which somebody else did say to me as well.
Speaker 3: A wrestler in a former WWE superstar said thought fantasy
Speaker 3: play as well. But I think the more that's come out,
Speaker 3: that's kind of subsided, right would you agree? Maybe at
Speaker 3: first you think weird, maybe fantasy. Now I think we're
Speaker 3: thinking it's more of the truth.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean some of the text messages. It was him,
Speaker 1: I guess, just maybe trying to role play, a fantasy play,
Speaker 1: whatever you call it, because those scenarios weren't happening. He
Speaker 1: would say, I want to see blah blah blah do
Speaker 1: this to you. I want to see three blah blah
Speaker 1: blahs in your blah blah blah, like he like the
Speaker 1: things that he was texting her. It didn't happen. He
Speaker 1: was just going off on his own, you know, sick,
Speaker 1: perverted mind what he wanted to see her do. But
Speaker 1: then he would say to her, Okay, I want you
Speaker 1: to send me a video of you doing this. And
Speaker 1: you know, now with these these videos get out there,
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna see them. I wouldn't be surprised if that
Speaker 1: didn't end up on pornhop or something like in the future,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, or celebrity. She's not a celebrity,
Speaker 1: but you know, just online like that doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: It should become celebrity because I guess so.
Speaker 1: I mean, I I just I feel bad for her,
Speaker 1: But this could have all been just prevented if she
Speaker 1: didn't take the you know, the first meeting. I understand
Speaker 1: you want to go up there, you want to see
Speaker 1: what's going on. But as soon as things got weird,
Speaker 1: she should have left, get another job, just do something else. This,
Speaker 1: I mean, this didn't have to happen. Unfortunately it did,
Speaker 1: and I feel bad for her. And I think all
Speaker 1: the men involved are pigs one hundred percent. She was
Speaker 1: taken advantage of, she was used, she was abused, They
Speaker 1: tossed her around like a rag doll. Terrible, terrible things
Speaker 1: that they did to her. I'm not justifying anything, and
Speaker 1: I'm not saying she asked for it, but she should
Speaker 1: have just walked right out that door.
Speaker 2: Incredible.
Speaker 3: Brett Hart says, I'm going to speak my truth. I'm
Speaker 3: not worried about Vince's feelings. He's never cared about mine.
Speaker 3: I don't have any problem with anybody kicking his head
Speaker 3: around the parking lot. I'm okay with the truth coming out.
Speaker 3: I don't think this is the only incident of this
Speaker 3: kind of predatory behavior.
Speaker 1: Wow, there you have it.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's incredible. There's gonna be more.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be more.
Speaker 2: Nick Nick Foley.
Speaker 3: I listened to what he said on his show Folly
Speaker 3: is Pod. He basically was kind of crushed to hear
Speaker 3: that you know what's gonna happen to his legacy? Now?
Speaker 3: What if they wipe out all of Vince McMahon's footage
Speaker 3: from WWE. That's mc foley's entire run. You know what
Speaker 3: happens to mc foley is he get wiped out of
Speaker 3: ww history? Do they do?
Speaker 1: They do that? Now?
Speaker 3: Chris ben Wogget's edited out of stuff full the.
Speaker 1: Time, allegedly murdered his family.
Speaker 3: But but they could What if they take out Vince
Speaker 3: out of you never? What if they just take what
Speaker 3: if they say when we bring everything Netflix, we're not
Speaker 3: uploading X, Y and Z to Netflix now and that
Speaker 3: includes this?
Speaker 1: I then settles. Is there a way to settle this?
Speaker 2: And just I mean in a way to settle it? Yeah,
Speaker 2: but remember she didn't care about the money.
Speaker 3: She's not give a shit if he gives Hey, here's
Speaker 3: the other two mill that I held back, or here's
Speaker 3: a one hundred mill go away.
Speaker 2: She wants to take him down.
Speaker 1: How much is he worth?
Speaker 2: Bills? Billions billions, like a billionaires?
Speaker 3: Because remember the thing was if he was removed from TKO,
Speaker 3: he got another couple hundred million.
Speaker 2: And he gone.
Speaker 3: And here's the other thing, did.
Speaker 2: You hear this about the TKO thing.
Speaker 3: So Ari Emmanuel, the head honchhow of TKO. His daughter
Speaker 3: was working at the WWE offices during this has she
Speaker 3: come for over the last two years?
Speaker 2: Excuse me, last two years, not my bit.
Speaker 1: He hasn't said anything, right.
Speaker 2: Oh, I have heard that, but he was curious when
Speaker 2: he heard that.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what somebody had posted on Twitter. I
Speaker 1: don't know what year it was, but I guess it
Speaker 1: was from raw. It was Vince McMahon and Stephanie and
Speaker 1: Stephanie cutting a promo on her dad about when I
Speaker 1: was seventeen years old and you made me go with
Speaker 1: all those businessmen. Yeah, but I did what you But
Speaker 1: how ironic is it?
Speaker 2: It's weird.
Speaker 1: It's very weird. Weird, It's very weird.
Speaker 3: But okay, but then you can also point out there's
Speaker 3: a segment with Hulk Hogan and Vince McMahon where he
Speaker 3: puts him on a lie detector tests and Hulk Hogan says,
Speaker 3: are you a you know, are you a perverted power
Speaker 3: hungry freak out? And he says no, and the thing
Speaker 3: goes eh right, So I mean it too.
Speaker 1: He's a weirdo. Like these angles and these perverting, like
Speaker 1: he wanted to have an incest angle with Stephanie. Like,
Speaker 1: how out of the boxes.
Speaker 3: That cray nexophilia, remember the nectophilia.
Speaker 1: It's just so weird, like he's a weird dude. I
Speaker 1: suppose this just solidifies it's not just business. It's not
Speaker 1: just a weirdo for the ratings. He's a weirdo in
Speaker 1: real life.
Speaker 3: If this is true, how about what Wait a second,
Speaker 3: Wait a second, Wait a second, wait a second, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna ask this nice and soul.
Speaker 1: Are you a.
Speaker 3: Perverted, power hungry freak?
Speaker 1: Oh god, let his day.
Speaker 3: No, I'm a very well respected businessman the world over.
Speaker 3: Ah yeah, I mean he pulled fun at it. So,
Speaker 3: I mean the thing So there was that one where
Speaker 3: she said you pip me out basically yeah, But then
Speaker 3: there was another one where he says, go home and
Speaker 3: tell your mother that after the ink is dry on
Speaker 3: the divorce, I'm gonna get a girlfriend and she's gonna
Speaker 3: be younger than you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Why not? Does he have a girlfriend? Now?
Speaker 2: Probably?
Speaker 1: You know, come on, you know what, the people don't
Speaker 1: care you like his mustache?
Speaker 2: OJ had girlfriends?
Speaker 1: Okay, well you've got prostate cancer.
Speaker 3: I saw that. I did see that today.
Speaker 1: I think that's what I read. Anyway, look this story, Uh,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be more to it. If there is, we'll
Speaker 1: cover it. Bottom line is my heart goes out to
Speaker 1: the girl Janelle. I feel horrible for her, I really
Speaker 1: really do. I'm disgusted by again any man that was
Speaker 1: involved in any of this because it's gross. But I
Speaker 1: just wish she would have just walked away. That's all
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I wish she would have just left his
Speaker 1: apartment like the minute he got weird and said now
Speaker 1: I don't need this job and blocked him on her phone.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: That's that's my thing, chastise for being a dirty old man.
Speaker 3: What if she told him to grow the mustache.
Speaker 1: I doubt it.
Speaker 2: She said, you look great, you look young.
Speaker 1: Do we know how old she is?
Speaker 3: She looked lifting stories, so that one picture that's bandied about.
Speaker 3: I thought she was like in her twenties, yeah, said
Speaker 3: she's forty three. I mean, you know north, I'm north
Speaker 3: of the four and I think that, and I get
Speaker 3: told all the time, I don't look that age.
Speaker 2: Yeah I don't look like I'm in my twenties, but yeah,
Speaker 2: she looks like it in her twenties.
Speaker 1: She looks like a before picture on the fake commercials
Speaker 1: where I.
Speaker 3: Saw another picture that was not as good as that
Speaker 3: one where she looked older. So that's where I'm not
Speaker 3: to picture her though. Yeah maybe, but so I've heard
Speaker 3: forty three of her thirty seven.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know, but uh, a girl, very pretty girl.
Speaker 2: Nice picture.
Speaker 1: It's just really unfortunate that, you know, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: this happens all over the world where women get used
Speaker 1: and abused, and I mean, you just have to have
Speaker 1: the balls to tell them no and walk away. And
Speaker 1: if you lose your job, you lose your job, get
Speaker 1: another job. I know it's it's not that easy. I
Speaker 1: understand that, but my god, look at all the things
Speaker 1: that this girl's going through right now. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: can't leave her house for weeks, sick as a dog,
Speaker 1: depression for him, incredible.
Speaker 2: You know what she should have said to him?
Speaker 1: What's that?
Speaker 2: Oh crap, you're so bad, You're the worst.
Speaker 3: Do it again?
Speaker 1: You know what she should have said to him?
Speaker 3: You know what what.
Speaker 2: She should have said to him?
Speaker 1: What what?
Speaker 2: That's what she should have said?
Speaker 1: Brutal?
Speaker 3: Well, there were some other stuff that happened while you
Speaker 3: were gone. Whatever the rock he was back. Everybody's pissed.
Speaker 3: Now he's a heel and him and Roman might be
Speaker 3: teaming up against Cody and could be Seth.
Speaker 2: Seth might not be cleared.
Speaker 3: I saw somebody pitch that maybe should be Stone Cold
Speaker 3: Steve Austin. That would be epic.
Speaker 1: Imagine that that'd be his last and he looking for
Speaker 1: a last match.
Speaker 3: Could be.
Speaker 2: But I mean, like, literally, who gives a shite?
Speaker 3: Well, who gives a shit? I mean really, who cares?
Speaker 1: Everybody who is into WrestleMania cares because we want Cody.
Speaker 1: Hashtag was all over socials. So guess what. The WWE
Speaker 1: universe has spoken and WWE listened. So there you go.
Speaker 2: Okay, sidebar. Do you really think they listened or do
Speaker 2: you think this was the plan all along?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think it was the plan.
Speaker 3: I think it was.
Speaker 1: I like to think they listened to the people.
Speaker 2: Did you see any of that press conference?
Speaker 3: Now? It was.
Speaker 2: It was very well done.
Speaker 3: If you like a good angle and you want to
Speaker 3: watch about a minute and thirty seconds of a video,
Speaker 3: check it out on your Twitter feed.
Speaker 2: It was and you know who it was.
Speaker 3: Sorry modern fans. Sorry, it was because of the Rock.
Speaker 3: The Rock is the one who made it. Because if
Speaker 3: it wasn't for the Old School, there would be no business.
Speaker 2: And the Rock saved everything.
Speaker 1: I saw him on Pat McPhee. He was funny. Did
Speaker 1: you see that clip?
Speaker 3: Yes, he was awesome.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like telling everybody front of your computers,
Speaker 1: we will Coddy, he said.
Speaker 3: She said, Dad, can we go play catch?
Speaker 2: Sorry?
Speaker 3: Sorry son, hashtag Cody whatever.
Speaker 1: It was, and then the wife comes in, you want
Speaker 1: to have sex, No, we want Cody. I have to
Speaker 1: stay on the computer and do my hashtags. Hilarious right right?
Speaker 2: Oh and the other thing too.
Speaker 3: While you were gone, they officially announced Dark Side of
Speaker 3: the Ring with the sand Man.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, with him tomorrow, which we're recording this on
Speaker 1: Friday night. I'm gonna be with him and Todd Gordon
Speaker 1: tomorrow for our Wrestling Universe gimmick. So maybe I'll have
Speaker 1: him come on after it airs and we can talk
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: I think we totally.
Speaker 3: I'm honestly, I've been waiting for this one for what
Speaker 3: two years?
Speaker 1: Here here's what it's gonna be like. Yeah, yo, I
Speaker 1: did drugs, yoo. Yeah, I was a Chippendale. Yo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was so close to Like, I was going
Speaker 3: down my rolodex of people to start messaging. I was
Speaker 3: going to reach out to Tyler right and be like, hmm,
Speaker 3: he might not be bad, and like, wonder if him
Speaker 3: and his dad are around? You imagine Sam Man is
Speaker 3: a half filling for you.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine that.
Speaker 1: He's starting a podcast He's trying to anyway?
Speaker 3: Is he trying to well, listen, trying to If he tries,
Speaker 3: I'm sure he's.
Speaker 1: Like, Yo, how do you use a green scream? Oh
Speaker 1: my god? I said, I'll have to walk you through it.
Speaker 1: He's the best. Well, we'll have them on.
Speaker 2: I got nothing else.
Speaker 1: So yeah, this was again don't come at me, ladies,
Speaker 1: if you're listening to this. I I have much love
Speaker 1: for the females in the business. Uh for Janelle, Like
Speaker 1: I said, if my whole thing was that, she just
Speaker 1: would have left. I don't know the circumstances, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know how desperately she needed money. But just
Speaker 1: don't don't put yourself in that situation, is all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And if you know, if you get fired, to get fired,
Speaker 1: your dignity and self respect is worth more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so totally yeah, but uh that's it.
Speaker 1: That's all I got.
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