1 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: Hello, everyone. This is between the Dring Drinking and you 2 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: are listening to Eyes up here with Drinking the iHeartRadio 3 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: Network or wherever you get your podcasts. As always, I 4 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: had my child host said through with and said, I 5 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: feel like I had not seen you may about twenty years. 6 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: You look a little older than I last remember. But 7 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: how are you doing today, buddy? 8 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: I thought I looked better than last time you saw me. 9 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: That look great. I think I'm rested. 10 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: Are you well? 11 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: I'm not. I just came back from an eighty two 12 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: days ursion in the Disney World, so I'm a little tired. 13 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 3: Excuse us. Yeah, I'm sorry, but I've just been waiting 14 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: in the chair for you sitting here. 15 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: He's been looking at my screen with a tear coming 16 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: down your face because I wasn't here. But I want 17 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: to thank first of all, before we start. I want 18 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: to thank Joe Burtner and Shane Douglas for filling in 19 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: for me while I was gone. I really appreciate that. 20 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: But I'm back and I hear there's a lot going 21 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: on in the news that I might have missed while 22 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: I was away. 23 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 2: Geez, you know happened? 24 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 3: You know, Like, here's the funny part too, like we 25 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: had to have started preparing for your trip in December, 26 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: like yeah, and I mean December, like December thirty first 27 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 3: where we recorded something and then like you and I 28 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 3: had like a pad and penn out and we're like, 29 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: all right, when should we like bolk record because I'm 30 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: gonna be away and this is what I'm going and 31 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah blah. And it's like, all right, 32 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: that's cool whatever, and you know, and it was this 33 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: person is pegged to guest hosts while you're gone. Okay, 34 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 3: we got it. 35 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: We only need one week. One Well, who would have. 36 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 3: Ever expected that? And I put this in big bold 37 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 3: italic letters, me the biggest story in the history of 38 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 3: the business breaks and I'm gone week you go away? 39 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: I know, I know. I was dying. I was like, 40 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: oh my god, I can't because I was like I 41 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: was reading it between rides, going to ride. I'd get 42 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: off the ride, I'd google something and see what was 43 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: going on and trying to like navigate Disney crowds while 44 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: I'm looking at my phone, absolutely insane. And you know what, 45 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: I was so pissed off too, because remember I told 46 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: you I was going to read the testimonial, the sixty 47 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: seven page gimmick that's out right. So I downloaded and 48 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: I guess I didn't download it to the right thing 49 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: on my iPad. And I get on the plane and 50 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm all ready to read it, and it says you 51 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: must have an Internet connection. I was like, oh my god. 52 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: So I read it, but I had to read it 53 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: when I came home. I could have read it on 54 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: the plane, but that was what I had planned to 55 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: do on the plane because it's you know, it's a 56 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: long flight. But I did read it, and I'm ready 57 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: to talk about it. And you know, people that are 58 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 1: listening were coming at you late with these views just 59 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: because I was away for a couple of weeks. So 60 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: for anyone who cares, I'm going to give my two cents. 61 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 3: And I got it back you up, though, hold on, 62 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: I got it back you up, says Die to talk 63 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 3: to you. 64 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: You people have no idea. The Queen of Extreme broke 65 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: this news to me because I was off the radar 66 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: that day, and. 67 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: She Douglas too. I texted him and he was. 68 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: Like what Yeah. 69 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: So he was the first person I called when I 70 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 3: became available. 71 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: And he and I were talking about it, and I. 72 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 3: I almost felt like I had to ask, like the 73 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: Mafia to do a hit for me, right, And I 74 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: because I was like, Shane, I know you just did 75 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 3: our show last week just on as a guest, and 76 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 3: I know you were a part of a very very 77 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 3: popular and very very good podcast. Would you please do 78 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: us the honor of stepping in tonight to record an 79 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 3: emergency video? I said, but I need you to go 80 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 3: through the proper channels, just like with the Mafia hit, 81 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 3: to get clearance to do this this hit for us, please. 82 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: I was like, I cannot believe that this is happening. 83 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 2: And to read what the first thing that popped off 84 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: the page was human trafficking. 85 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: Yes, that is disturbing to me that like when I 86 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: think of human trafficking, I think of more so like children. 87 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 88 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: And because even when I was in the bathroom in 89 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: the Florida airport, there was a big thing in front 90 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: of me, one in English and one in Spanish about 91 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: child trafficking, right, And it was telling like it showed 92 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: I guess sign language or hand signals that you should 93 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: use in the airport if somebody kidnaps you, so the 94 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: officer knows you're being trefied. Yes, And I'm just like, 95 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, that's what I think of. So to 96 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: see this associated with Vince McMahon and Johnny Ace and 97 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: all these people, like it's really weird. It just it 98 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: didn't seem correct to me, but I guess it is. 99 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: And and let me just state before we start. Everything 100 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: is allegedly. I always like to point that out, like, 101 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: we don't know who's telling the truth. Janelle Grant came 102 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: out with her you know, her statements, and then that's 103 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: basically that's sixty seven. Is that an affidavit or is it? 104 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 2: Like I think it's just a we're filing. 105 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: We're filing. Well that's her side of the story, and 106 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: Vince McMahon comes down and says he will prove his innocence. 107 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: So we don't know who's telling the truth and who's not. 108 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: I'm basing like my reactions just to what Janelle Grant 109 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: wrote and said happened. If it's true what she said, 110 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: then oh my god, the things that were in there. 111 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: The let's start from the beginning. 112 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: To romance novel brave not. 113 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: Romantic at all. Although I think according to her, I 114 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: think Vince tried to be romantic a couple of times 115 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: and failed. The The beginning of the story is basically, 116 00:06:55,360 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: this woman, Janelle Grant, her parents pass away. She's distraught. 117 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,799 Speaker 1: She was a caregiver for them for many many years. 118 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: Didn't work, Uh, needed a job to maintain I guess 119 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: her lifestyle. She's in the same apartment complex as Vincent Man. Correct, yeah, building, okay, yes, 120 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: Now you know when when you think of apartment complexes 121 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: and Vince McMahon, I think of kind of an upper class. 122 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: Place, you know, Jefferson, you know, really really nice. 123 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: Now what I don't understand. First of all, in reading everything, 124 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: she meets Vince through somebody who works. 125 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: In the building, the building manager, right, okay, and he. 126 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: Says, I'll get you in touch with Vince McMahon and 127 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: maybe he can help you. So he's showing pity on 128 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: Janelle Grant. She meets Vince McMahon she uh through text 129 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: messaging I believe was their first encounter or something like that, 130 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: and actually is invited up to his apartment. Now it's 131 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: been rumored for years that him and Linda have been 132 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: separated and living separate lives for years. But what I 133 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: don't get, and I'm jumping ahead here, and I'm going 134 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: to probably jump back and forth. When he's talking to Janelle, 135 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: he's saying, I don't want my wife to find out 136 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: about this. I don't want to get a divorce if 137 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: they're separated. That's something that I didn't understand. Yeah, but 138 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: let me get so we'll get back to that. 139 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,599 Speaker 2: But he says, but he's but there is reference to 140 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: his ex, right, she's history. 141 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: But then who cares if she finds out? 142 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 3: I think that the public, like was Linda to be 143 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 3: honest with you, because since the public. 144 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: Four people that were not named, I was getting so confused. 145 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: Number one, number. 146 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: Two, number three, w W executive one. 147 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: Let's call this one Ralph. Let's call this one Joe. 148 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it would have been much easier. So anyway, 149 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: so they meet and I guess Vince starts talking to her, 150 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: and I guess she tells him that she's looking for, 151 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: you know, a position, a job, And it gets weird. 152 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: It gets weird, like right away he starts talking about 153 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: like a surgery that he had on his leg, and 154 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: he draws a line on her on her leg to 155 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: show where the knee surgery was. And so right off 156 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: the bat it's like the touchy feely thing is coming out, 157 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: and then from there it just it gets weirder. It's 158 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: it's like he tells her to meet him, and then 159 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: he comes out in his underwear, standing in his underwear. Uh, 160 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: he says he wants to hold her. Uh, it's just 161 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: when he hugs her, he whispered, what did he whisper? 162 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 4: Like this is nice or so nice or like weird 163 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,599 Speaker 4: weird stuff. It just as for kisses on uh, you know, 164 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 4: a kiss she kissed him on the He says, that's 165 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 4: not what I meant. 166 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: Yes, just weird things. Now for me as a woman, 167 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,599 Speaker 1: that would be a signal right then and there to 168 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: get my ass out of here. This is not a 169 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: job that I want to me. She continued to go 170 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: and push too this relationship with him. She says that 171 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: she was kind of like forced into it, and if 172 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: you go one with the story, it just leads to 173 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: her getting deeper and deeper into this relationship with Vince 174 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: in order to keep her job. And then Vince takes 175 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: in Johnny Ace, who now says that Vince was trafficking. 176 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't need to be laughing. The bad 177 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: statement was ridiculous to me. I I just I don't know. 178 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: But then like other people like who wasn't Vincent, wasn't 179 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: Vince's chiropractor or somebody? 180 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 2: Yeah it was uh oh gosh, was it was it? No, 181 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: not the not massage therapist, it was a not a 182 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: personal trainer. It was along those lines. It just yeah, 183 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 2: it was along those lines. 184 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: So she's having threesomes, Vince is there, and then the 185 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: text messages that he is sending her you would never 186 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: think would come out of this man's mouth. And people 187 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: are saying it can't be vinced because look at the 188 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: way he's typing. Maybe he did it on purpose, you know, 189 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: maybe he didn't want to be accused of anything, so 190 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: he wrote. 191 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 2: I don't know, like a like a twelve year old girl. 192 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: That's how Sandman texts me all the time. And he's 193 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: more intelligent than that. He makes spelling mistakes and he 194 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: shortens words and all this kind of stuff. Maybe Sandman 195 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: text Okay, that's a joke everybody, but you know, it 196 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: got into this relationship where he was basically pimping her out, 197 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: showing not only you know, his friends, but the w 198 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: w E staff members and people that were on the 199 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: production crew and you know, talent naked pictures of her. 200 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: It's said that he forced her to make sexual videos 201 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: not only for him, but for other people. 202 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 2: Unnamed former UFC champion. 203 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, they took down all of his stuff, but I 204 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: guess he's out because of this. She made a video 205 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: of her urinating for him. 206 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 2: I mean, sorry, I'm sorry. 207 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: Well whatever I've said this many. I don't care what 208 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: kind of fetish that you're into. Like whatever floats your 209 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:53,599 Speaker 1: boat is fine, you know, but don't you think that 210 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: if you send videos to certain people, they're gonna get 211 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 1: a ray ond? Like she says, Oh, I don't want 212 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: anybody saying this stuff? Are you kidding me? 213 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 2: Everybody? 214 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 3: So? 215 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: And that he promises there three million dollars only pays 216 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: her a million, and that is like, bug off, you know. 217 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he doesn't even follow through with it. It's 218 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: just the story. To me, as badly as I feel 219 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: for her, because being in a workplace like that, no 220 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: woman should be treated like that. Let me just get 221 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: that off my chest. You can't hold that over a 222 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: woman's head to keep her job like that's to me, 223 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: that is just so sexist and disgusting and humiliating for her, 224 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: and but in the same breath she went along with 225 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: everything and continued to do so for what two years? Yeah? 226 00:14:54,760 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: Why why was she so desperate for money that that 227 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: was the only job that she could have obtained at 228 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: that time? You know, like I feel, I don't know, man, 229 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: I feel like if it was me, I would have 230 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: turned around and walked out the door the minute I 231 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: felt a weird vibe and even before he was in 232 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: his underwear, you know what I mean, Like the finger 233 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: on the leg like that to me is creepy. That's 234 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: touchy feely, that's handsel. There's no reason to touch somebody 235 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: like that. And then a long, lingering hug and whispering 236 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: in somebody's ear. That's bizarre to me. I'm sorry, I 237 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: don't I don't know. And I've been hugged by Vince McMahon. 238 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: He did hug me. He didn't whisper anything in my ear. 239 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: But uh, you know, I I've had a hug from 240 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: from Vince mcmanon before. 241 00:15:58,400 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 3: Now. 242 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: I know there are in a million stories out there 243 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: about Vince with talent. Other people in the office with 244 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: talent never knew if they were true or not. You know, 245 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: a lot of sources tell me a lot of the 246 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: girls got their push because of the casting couch. I 247 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: don't know if that's true. 248 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: Or not, you know, without naming names. 249 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: Of course, I can't name any names because I don't 250 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: want to get anybody in heat. 251 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 2: But you know, there's there's plenty of stories out there. 252 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: There's a million. I mean, when I worked there, there 253 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: were stories floating around. And again when I worked there, 254 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: I was told by somebody higher up, if you want to, 255 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: you know, be seen, you need to go get a 256 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: bottle of oil. I mean, I don't know if I 257 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: was supposed to be cooking oil. What kind of oil 258 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: this is oil? I don't know. Rubbing oil all over 259 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: my boobs and knocking on Vince's door and going in 260 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: there and leaning on his desk and trying to get noticed. 261 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: That's what I was told to do, and I said, 262 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: absolutely not, I'm not doing that. So you know, I 263 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: kind of believe what this girl is saying, although you know, 264 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: I wasn't there, so we can't prove it one hundred percent, 265 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: but I can see this kind of thing happening. He 266 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: is a millionaire. He has so much power. The way 267 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: that the guys would follow him like the you know, 268 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: the corporates. When I would go to rawl, I would 269 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: see him walking down the corridor and he'd have four 270 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: or five guys just following him around everywhere, I mean, 271 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: and they would do whatever he told them to do. 272 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: The man's got power, you know, power money. I just 273 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: don't understand why she didn't walk away. 274 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 3: Two questions that can kind of serve both sides of 275 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 3: the coin. One with what you saw backstage, and then 276 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 3: two kind of what I went through when I applied 277 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 3: and interviewed and then ultimately got the job I had 278 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 3: at the offices, what you saw backstage with Vince at TV, 279 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 3: I was never essentially at a TV taping in the 280 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 3: matter you were, of course, a TV taping stressful. 281 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 2: A TV taping is a crazy day, right. 282 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 3: Vince's interactions with the crew is what I thought was 283 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 3: very funny, because what's the crew to Vince. The guys 284 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 3: he's sitting in his office with were presumably whomever he 285 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 3: was booking the show with, or the top talent that 286 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 3: was coming in and out. I mean, Vince isn't getting 287 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 3: up there and hanging the banners with the the the 288 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 3: ring crew, or putting up the ring or sitting with 289 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 3: the TV gaffers. 290 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. 291 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 3: So that's where I was like, who's the tell the 292 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 3: technical crew or whoever? Like That's that was very murky 293 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 3: to me because it was very vague on who's the 294 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 3: TV crew or the technical crew. 295 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: Maybe production in the truck, right, but like that that 296 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 1: wasn't having done in the truck a lot. 297 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 3: But but then so this is where and then I 298 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 3: was like, all right, but it was weird in the 299 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 3: old sense, but in the new sense of Vince wasn't 300 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 3: really in control over the last little while. 301 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 2: Now we got old man Vince sitting like this at TV. Hey, 302 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 2: I'm sitting here at TV. Who wants to see a 303 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 2: picture on my phone? Ha ha? 304 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 3: So then I was like, hmm, maybe it makes sense 305 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 3: that old man Vince is getting pushed out of the 306 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 3: picture and it's trying to get people to like think 307 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 3: he's cool now that he's lost his power and this 308 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 3: is what he's doing. So that's what I thought about that. 309 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 3: Then the second side is, like I said, at the office, now, 310 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 3: granted we're going back to two thousand and six, completely 311 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 3: different world, the level. 312 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: Of fear that roam those hallways was palpable. 313 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, you could not look the wrong direction without getting 314 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 3: heat from somebody. So the fact that she was able 315 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 3: to get in get a promotion, demotion on promotion, and 316 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 3: nobody said anything is incredible to me. So that's where 317 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 3: I just I can't believe it, because you know, it's 318 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 3: all about fear. 319 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,719 Speaker 1: They were. But if you if you remember, though, there 320 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: were several instances in that in the sixty seven pages 321 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: where she said that the one head wouldn't even look 322 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: at her, and that when she would walk his way, 323 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: he would turn and walk another way. So people knew, 324 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: but they were aren't saying anything, and they were either 325 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: being very mean to her or they were just ignoring 326 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: the fact, which you know. And she didn't even work 327 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: in the main office. She worked across the street. She said, 328 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: she was in the other office. 329 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 2: And this is that I guess new office. 330 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: I suppose so, because this is from twenty nineteen to 331 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: twoenty twenty one ish, right, But what you know. Another 332 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: thing that happened to me. I remember I remember showing up. 333 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: It was TV and I wasn't booked, and somebody higher 334 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: up told me to go sit in the makeup chair 335 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: and get my hair and makeup done and put on 336 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: a gimmick outfit. And I said, but I'm not working, 337 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: and they said, doesn't matter, we want them to see you. 338 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: So they made me go in the makeup chair, which 339 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: all the girls that were working, you know, there was 340 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: only one makeup artist, and so you had to like 341 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: kind of like fight your way into that chair sometimes. 342 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: And for me not being on TV that evening and 343 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: sitting in that chair, I was like, I know I 344 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: have heat now, but they made me sit in a 345 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: chair and get all ready, and then they made me 346 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: roam the halls for Vince to make him see me, 347 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: which was completely for me embarrassing. It's like, what, you know, 348 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: I look ridiculous, And here I am roaming the halls 349 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: trying to find him soon see me. And I finally 350 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: did find him and I said hello, how are you? 351 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: And I shook his hand and he gave me like 352 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: an up and dayn and then he walked away, and 353 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, well, what am I supposed to do? Now? 354 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: Go follow him? You know, right, just really weird stuff. 355 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: And then at one night stand two thousand and five, 356 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: I remember I went there really wasn't made up to 357 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: the nines because I knew I had to sit in 358 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: the makeup chair that evening, and I went up to 359 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: Vince and I shook his hand and he was just 360 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: like uh huh and blah blah blah and walked away. 361 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: After I sat in the makeup chair, he was walking 362 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: by me and he grabbed my hand and held it 363 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: like this, cupped it and said, I'm Vince, And I said, 364 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: I know, she shut her hand like an hour ago. 365 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: He didn't even realize it was me because of the 366 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: you know, I went in the makeup chair and stuff, 367 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: and he just kind of stared at me, and then 368 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: I kind of took my hand and walked away. I 369 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: was like, what is going on? So you know, again, 370 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: I I get the whole power thing. He's got a 371 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: lot of power. Girls want a spot. They'll do whatever 372 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: to get get on top, get a spot. But would 373 00:23:54,840 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: Janelle like maybe, I don't know, did she not think 374 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: that she can get a job that like I think 375 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: her initial pay was like eighty thousand dollars. She didn't 376 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: think she was qualified anywhere else to make eighty grand 377 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: for her first year, so that's why she went along 378 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: with what she did. But I mean, you know, she 379 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: was getting the post traumatic stress disorder. Her hair was 380 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: falling out, she was throwing up, she was bleeding, bleeding 381 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: out of her privates. She was down to like one 382 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: hundred pounds because of all of this, having to have 383 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: sex multiple times during the not even per week, per day, 384 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: and she was saying she had to go to Johnny 385 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: Laurenias's room in the morning because she was his breakfast. 386 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: That's what they called it. She was his breakfast several times, 387 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: you know, during the week. It's like how much can 388 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: one woman take? But but she's she's continuing to do it. 389 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: Why didn't she quit? She said she couldn't quit. I guess, 390 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: But why didn't she walk out in the beginning? That's 391 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: what I don't get. I guess she just wanted. I 392 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: wanted to make the money. 393 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 2: I don't want you go work at Burger King if 394 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 2: you need a job like that. 395 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 3: No job is that important if it's your safety and 396 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 3: it's it's this level of like obsession that you're in 397 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 3: danger and you're it's at that level. 398 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 2: So that's what I just there were so many things, 399 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,959 Speaker 2: and again I'm in the exact same position that you are. 400 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 3: I don't want to come off forming an opinion or 401 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 3: say anything negative when you're you know, yeah, it's just 402 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 3: incredible some of this stuff. And again, and I'm going 403 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 3: back to my own personal interview experience. I went through 404 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 3: like ten interviews to. 405 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 5: Get like a twelve dollars an hour job, you know, 406 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 5: and it's like, what the fuck, Like it's crazy just 407 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 5: because you know, I didn't have that high rise apartment, 408 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 5: I guess, And. 409 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: You know, it's very frustrating to you because like in 410 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: my case, I had so much experience under my belt. 411 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: I had thirteen years in the business when I when 412 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: I went to work there, and I was very very 413 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: confident on my ability to speak on the mic, to 414 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: take bumps to work. I kept myself in shape for 415 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: my age. I mean, I was thirty four years old, 416 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: and to be told that I needed to do these 417 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: things to be recognized and you know, to be put 418 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: on the TV taping like, I was like, you can 419 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: take this and stick it up your ass. I'm not 420 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,959 Speaker 1: doing this, you know. And maybe that's why I got fired. 421 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. I had asked for my release and 422 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: they had said no, and then a month and a 423 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: half later it was like Johnny Ace, I got nothing 424 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: for you. And I'm just like, oh, really, you have 425 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: nothing for me. I guess you didn't think hard enough. 426 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 2: Because he was trying to say, what are you doing 427 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 2: for breakfast? 428 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: I'm not somebody's breakfast. I'll tell you that right now. 429 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm not trying to come off as insensitive 430 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: because I do feel bad for her. The things that 431 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: I've read were horrific and no woman should ever have 432 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: to go through that. Let's just make that very very clear. 433 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: The men involved, if true, are a bunch of scumbags. 434 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: They're pigs, and you know, Evince did this, if Johnny 435 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: did this, they're disgusting. And you know, hopefully if it 436 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: comes to the point where they say this happened, hopefully 437 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: they'll get their day and be punished for it. But 438 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: you know, I just I don't understand why a female 439 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 1: would put themselves in that position in the first place. 440 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: I'm not saying she was asking for it, because I 441 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: don't believe she was. I just feel like there are 442 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 1: there were signs that me reading it as a female, 443 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, there's a signer there, I'm out the door. 444 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: Oh there's another one, Seya. Wouldn't I wouldn't even accept 445 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: the phone call, like there were things in there that 446 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 1: were so weird that would give me like a creeper 447 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: vibe and I would just have to leave. Why did 448 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: she say? What did she think was gonna happen? You know? Yeah? 449 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 2: And uh, just to kind of piggyback off of your 450 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 2: your stories. So there have been stories shared. 451 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 3: By some people and maybe more by fans too, But 452 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 3: the big one is Ashley Massarow, who passed away a 453 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 3: few years ago. If you remember back in our in 454 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 3: our history, you were at my show in Richmond, Virginia 455 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 3: when Ashley Missarrow passed away. 456 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 2: I remember it more than you do, more than likely. 457 00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 3: But the story about Ashley miss Arrow and the whatever 458 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 3: it was, the tribute to the troops incident that was 459 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 3: around then, that story and that was being banned about 460 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 3: back then, and that was twenty and eighteen, twenty nineteen. 461 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 2: So the fact that that came back around now, this 462 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 2: is not good for Vince McMahon. I mean, so this 463 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 2: is just Janelle Grant. 464 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 3: That doesn't include the thirty million other dollars that are 465 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 3: apparently tied up in these NDAs that he was writing 466 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 3: without WWE knowledge and apparently, like you know, it's it's 467 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 3: not really got much ground or something because of the 468 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 3: way he did it. So he did it the way 469 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,959 Speaker 3: he wanted to do it. But the Ashley Massaro thing 470 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 3: is really, really, really bad when you look. 471 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: Back at it, and there somebody just came out and 472 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: said that they knew and they kept quiet. Yeah, Johnny Ace, 473 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: it was Johnny that said that. 474 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, Johnny fully fully came out and said 475 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 3: he knew that she went to Johnny Ason Vince and 476 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 3: they did not want to disrupt their relationship with the 477 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 3: military and all the goodwill they had had with the 478 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 3: military to that point. 479 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 2: And that basically, if you want to find out, you 480 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 2: can file a. 481 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 3: Freedom of Information Act and get whatever the investigation is 482 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 3: that they've done. And you know, poor Ashley mass Arrow, 483 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 3: you know like that, it's it's it's heartbreaking that she 484 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 3: suffered the way she did. There was no justice and 485 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 3: unfortunately she'll never ever ever know what the final verdict 486 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 3: is gonna be because this it's just it sucks. And 487 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 3: this is jumping ahead a little bit with Vince, but like, 488 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 3: where do you kind of stand with the historical piece 489 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 3: with him. 490 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: From everything? 491 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 3: If we just put out a video about Vince a 492 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 3: week before you went on vacation, laughing and joking. 493 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: Haha. 494 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 3: Here he is on your video music video thing and 495 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 3: we're laughing, and. 496 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: Here he is, like, how many women are there that 497 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: were victimized by Vince McMahon that have kept their mouths shut? 498 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: Because a big part of this, you know, this thing 499 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: by Janelle whatever it's called, I don't even know, she's 500 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: saying that she wants to be the voice of the 501 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: women who are silent, who can't come forward, and maybe 502 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: this will trigger them to realize, you know, we need 503 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: to stand together and we need to basically put this 504 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: guy in his place. Right, So what you said, so 505 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: many things are out there. How many girls or women 506 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: did he have to pay off to keep quiet hush money? 507 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: How many women did he you know, demoralize, victimize the 508 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: word I can't use the word because you know, I don't, 509 00:31:55,400 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: but force himself upon when she said no repeat? How 510 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: many women did he do that too? How many women 511 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: have fell victim to this man and to his cronies 512 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: that he let borrow or share or whatever the term is, trafficking, 513 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: you know, whatever they're calling it. How many women are 514 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: involved in this that don't have a voice that are 515 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: scared to speak about it, you know what I mean, 516 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: whether it's because they're getting paid off still, whether it's 517 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: because they might think people might look at them as 518 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: a whoror whether it's because they were married at the 519 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: time and they wanted to push How many women has 520 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: he done this too? There's gotta be tens of hundreds 521 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: of women out there, So when you read something like this, 522 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: is it that far fetched? Not? Really? The one thing 523 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: that I was taken aback with was him defecating. 524 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought it up because that part. 525 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 3: I was just like, did you read the full details? 526 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: I read everything. I read everything. I mean, is he 527 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: that twisted? 528 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 2: That's the one that almost every detail I remember, like verbatim. 529 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 2: I don't know why really, because it was so ridiculous. 530 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: It's so I mean, I got sick. He went to 531 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: shower and she had to continue servicing the friend while 532 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: she had uh, you know, all over her sh I'm like, 533 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: are you what? Like? Who who does this? How dementute? 534 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: If that is a true eat men? How the minute 535 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: is this? Man? I don't head around there? 536 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like, I mean, he's so she's you know, 537 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 3: so vice is into scatologically, you know, play there's urination. 538 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 3: I mean this, this is fetishes, this is domination. 539 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,760 Speaker 1: This is talking about Africa. 540 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I mean, wait time out. 541 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 2: How about how about the sex toys named. 542 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 3: After the w. 543 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 2: And did you read through the tea leaves onto who 544 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 2: one was? 545 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,439 Speaker 3: Did you did you catch on who the one sex 546 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 3: toy was named after. 547 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: A smaller wrestler, he said. 548 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 2: Smaller wrestler. 549 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 3: I believe it was who had faced adversity. And I'm 550 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 3: this is my speculation and some stuff I had read. 551 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: I who was it? Say it? 552 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 2: I think that one of the sex toys was named Kofe. 553 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: Kofe. I thought one of them was Hornswoggle because they 554 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: said like a smaller wrestler. I thought it was Dylan. 555 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 3: I think it was Kofe because it was around the time. 556 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 3: And this is the other thing that ties into Brock allegedly, 557 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 3: sorry excuse me, former. 558 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 2: UFC champion WW Superstars who it is resigned a contract. 559 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 3: All the stuff that happened with Brock and the resigning 560 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 3: of the contract and like like his title victory, I 561 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 3: think was all like lined up with like the koffee stuff, 562 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 3: and he suffered a big one it's all like KOFE. 563 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: So look, I don't know who was who, but it's weird, 564 00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 1: like weird stuff, like they were saying she was leading 565 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: because he was fisting her. 566 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you're gonna have to You're gonna have to 567 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 2: beat some of this. 568 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not laughing, No, not laughing because of 569 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 3: the severity of the nature of ridiculous. 570 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: This is five years ago. He's what now, seventy six, 571 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: he was seventy one years old when he's doing all 572 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: of this stuff with with dildo's and pooping on he's 573 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: an old man. 574 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:36,439 Speaker 3: What the hell? 575 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god? Like stop. 576 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 3: So there's also been some word about things that have 577 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 3: come out, like Shane McMahon. Why Shane McMahon decided to 578 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 3: really distance himself because he didn't want to be like 579 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 3: his father, did not want to be a part of 580 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 3: any of this. 581 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: So he is McMahon. I love Shane, But you know 582 00:36:58,560 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: what is so. 583 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 2: Great about effect? You have said that forever, and you 584 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 2: are not the only one. 585 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 3: I've heard this on other shows, other former people from 586 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 3: the company saying the same thing. So what is it 587 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 3: about Shane that made him so different? 588 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,399 Speaker 1: Maybe Linda was a good mother and a good role 589 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: model and a good figure to the children. Maybe he 590 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: took after his mother. I don't know anything about Linda. 591 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 1: I've never heard anything about Linda. I mean, I feel 592 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: bad for her for having to put up with him 593 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: for all these years. Could you imagine being married to 594 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: this man and being a figure she was talented for 595 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: a long time and having to endure like I'm sure 596 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: when she walked in, everybody just shut up and stood 597 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 1: at attendance. And you know she's missus McMahon. But you 598 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:02,439 Speaker 1: don't think she heard anything. You don't think she knew stuff. Yeah, 599 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,879 Speaker 1: she's not a dumb woman. There's ways you could find 600 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: out they're rich. They could get private investigators and stuff 601 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:10,760 Speaker 1: follow you around. 602 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 3: But even with like you said, with talent, and when 603 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 3: Vince was in his late fifties, you know he's banning 604 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 3: out twenty something Tris Stratus and making out with her 605 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 3: on TV in front of the comatose Linda McMahon, you know, 606 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 3: on television, might be something he had to sit her 607 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 3: down to convince this is best for business. 608 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not saying did anything behind the scenes. I'm 609 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: not saying oh no, no, no, no. They on the air. 610 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 611 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I couldn't imagine being his wife and 612 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 1: having to endure that type of thing. But in the 613 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:53,879 Speaker 1: case of Shane, I mean, you know, maybe maybe he's 614 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 1: just you know, he's just a good person. I've never 615 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 1: heard anything like when I work, I never heard anything 616 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: about Shane cheating on his wife. I always heard he 617 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: was a good family man who loved his boys, loved 618 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 1: his wife. You know, I don't I don't know the McMahon, so, 619 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,800 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what goes on behind closed doors. 620 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 1: But I always heard that he was the good one. 621 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 1: It was the righteous man. 622 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 3: I've heard a couple of people say Shane is my 623 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 3: favorite mcmah and he's he's always say it. You say it, 624 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 3: and you've always said it vociferously. 625 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, I you know, as far as 626 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 1: Linda goes, I feel bad for her. But she had power. 627 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: She tolerates. I guess she tolerated him for years. They 628 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: had children together, and you're used to a lifestyle, a 629 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: certain lifestyle, and maybe she didn't want to give it up. 630 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. All I know is I could not 631 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 1: go through that. There's no way that's It's just this 632 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 1: whole story just makes me think how many more stories 633 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: are out there? And who's coming next? You're going to 634 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: open their mouth next, So you know there's more than 635 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: Janelle Tons. She's not the only one. And then it 636 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 1: brought it back to the referee I believe in nineteen 637 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: ninety four. 638 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well the incident was in the eighties and 639 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 2: the suit was in the nineties. 640 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, oh eighty was it eighty four? 641 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 2: She was there was no it was night. 642 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was some of eighty four eighty five where 643 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,280 Speaker 3: the limo incident's happened. 644 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,439 Speaker 2: But then she filed much later. 645 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so she is claiming that she was, I guess, 646 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 1: forced to have sex with Vince McMahon in a limousine 647 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: in order to keep her job. And again, like, fire me, 648 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: get me out of this limit. I would never. I 649 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't never. 650 00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 3: I just I just couldn't do it. 651 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: I couldn't do it. 652 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 3: Well, let's go back to that if you can, If 653 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 3: that's all right, when you talk about that incident with 654 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 3: the oil, right, yeah, and when they when they asked 655 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 3: you to do that, Yeah, when you said no, were 656 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 3: you met with a surprise reaction or were you met 657 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 3: with a like oh whatever, and then like moved on 658 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 3: because they they asked us to everybody every time they come. 659 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 2: Through that hallway. 660 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 3: So what was the reaction like when they when you 661 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 3: were absolutely opposed to it? 662 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,879 Speaker 1: So I was crying. I was literally crying at this point. 663 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 1: I'm standing. I remember I was standing in a very 664 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 1: closed it wasn't a hallway, but it was like there 665 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: might have been like one of those trunks, you know, 666 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,720 Speaker 1: with the trunks that they had, the big blue trunks. 667 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 1: I might have been between a trunk and a wall 668 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: or something. And I'm having this conversation with this higher 669 00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: up guy. I'm not going to say who it is, 670 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 1: and they're, you know, they're telling me what to do, 671 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:08,879 Speaker 1: and I was just sobbing and he was just like, well, 672 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: it'll get you noticed or something to that effect. And 673 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not doing it. I'm just not 674 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 1: doing it. I said I want to go home, and 675 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: basically it was just like, okay, trying to help. I'm 676 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 1: just trying to help you. And I was just like, 677 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 1: I'm not doing it, you know, and let me. I'm 678 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 1: going on record, Vince never made a pass at me, 679 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,839 Speaker 1: Like he's never been inappropriate, Like the one time went 680 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 1: on Vince that was just weird. It was like, I 681 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: guess he liked the way I looked when I came 682 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: out of a makeup chair, but he's never never done 683 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: anything like inappropriate towards me. I just want to put 684 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,439 Speaker 1: that out there before this, you know, blows up or whatever. 685 00:42:53,960 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 1: But it's like I was pissed off because and I'm 686 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 1: not trying to be, you know, an asshole, but I 687 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,840 Speaker 1: know I have talent. I know I'm talented. I know 688 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 1: what I can do in the ring. And when when 689 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: you have somebody who has experience and who knows what 690 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: they're doing to be told to just you know, go 691 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 1: in there and just do something like that. I've never 692 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 1: been told to do anything like that in my life. 693 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: When I worked for ECW, I didn't have to sleep 694 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: with Paul or anybody like. It was just my talent. 695 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 1: I go to a place like this and it's just 696 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 1: all I hear is like this one's doing this, and 697 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 1: this one's doing that, and this one's with this one. 698 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm just a good Lord. Do they not look at 699 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 1: a person and say, well, they're a really good worker, 700 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: you know, or they're really good on the mic, or Okay, 701 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: they're a pretty girl, but they have tail only the talent. Really, 702 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 1: to me, that wasn't in play. It was like, what 703 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: are you gonna do to get him to notice you? 704 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, well, Frank, who hired me? I 705 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 1: want to know who hired me? And when? When I 706 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: had that walk with Vince, I asked him why am 707 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 1: I here? Like, you don't know anything about me? You 708 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 1: don't know anything about ECW. You have our tape library, 709 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 1: you bought the tape library. Well, I don't watch it. 710 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 1: He has people watch his stuff for him, you know. 711 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 1: And he told me point blank, I don't know anything 712 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 1: about ECW. I don't know anything about your work. This 713 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 1: is your company, and I'm hired and you don't know 714 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,839 Speaker 1: a thing about me or about my colleagues that came 715 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 1: in with me. What kind of bullshit is that? You know? 716 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: It was such a it was such an uncomfortable conversation. 717 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: And we're walking around the building, mind you, just me 718 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,320 Speaker 1: and him, you know, and I'm looking at him like, dude, 719 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 1: you gotta be ribbing me? Is this a rib? You know? 720 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 1: I just I've never heard of somebody being hired and 721 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 1: the boss doesn't know anything about them. It's unbelievable, you know. 722 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 1: And then that's where the whole what he got for me, 723 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: Vince came from. You know. I had to go chase 724 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,839 Speaker 1: him down the next night, and that's when he gave 725 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,839 Speaker 1: me that big hug. That's my girl, and he gave 726 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 1: me this big, tight hug. And then my name was 727 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: on the wall and I'm thinking, huh, but it didn't 728 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 1: stay there. Why didn't it stay there? I don't know. 729 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 3: Now I have a question for you after reading the 730 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 3: sixty seven page filing. Much like he answered the door 731 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 3: for Janelle Grant when he gave her a hug, was 732 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 3: he where in his underwear when he gave you the hug? 733 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 1: No? He was wearing a suit. 734 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 2: Oh okay, Sorry, he pulled me. 735 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,479 Speaker 1: I was in line for my draw and he pulled 736 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 1: me out of line. Francine, can I speak to you? 737 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,320 Speaker 1: And I was like this. I was like, there's a 738 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: voice coming, what's going on. I didn't expect it because 739 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 1: I had come out of Johnny Ace's office crying and 740 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 1: I was told just go get your go, get your draw, 741 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,800 Speaker 1: get you know, all right, I'll get my draw and 742 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,359 Speaker 1: I'm standing there and then Vince, you know, I took 743 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 1: my ten minute stroll with Vince, but he was never 744 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 1: inappropriate with me. It was just, uh, you know, do 745 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,800 Speaker 1: this to get noticed, do that to get noticed. So 746 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: with with my experience there and with listening to the 747 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,840 Speaker 1: stories about what other girls did or you know, what 748 00:46:55,000 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 1: they had to endure or what was suggested to them, 749 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 1: like Tory Wilson, I think just came out and said 750 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,959 Speaker 1: Vince wanted her to do you know, to do more 751 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: or something like. It's it's just like, is this so 752 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 1: hard to believe? Really? Yeah, And the answer is no, 753 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 1: it's not hard to believe. But the scenarios are bizarre world. 754 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 1: And that's to me looking at him, like I would 755 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: never look at him and think, oh, he's into Scott, 756 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he's a corporate businessman 757 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 1: and an older corporate businessman tamboo. So just to see 758 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff in print threw me for a loop. 759 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 1: So like my analysis of this, like I feel bad 760 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. I feel horrible for her for what 761 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 1: she had to endure, But if she just would have 762 00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 1: walked out in the beginning, it would have never happened, right, 763 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 1: So there you go. I mean, I don't know you 764 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,840 Speaker 1: can only go along with something for so long. And 765 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,840 Speaker 1: I don't know where she thought this would end up, 766 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 1: Like where did what? Did she think she was going 767 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 1: to be like his wife in the end or something like. 768 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,959 Speaker 3: I don't think she had any kind of desire based 769 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 3: off of what I read. It just didn't seem like 770 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 3: it was a desire for that. 771 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 1: No, But why, I like y she had to have 772 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 1: known that the relationship wasn't going to end well. She 773 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:42,840 Speaker 1: like she was going to lose her job as she 774 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 1: stopped screwing on. So, I mean, I don't know. It's 775 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,360 Speaker 1: just bizarre. If you haven't read it, it's online, you 776 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,399 Speaker 1: can read it. It's sixty seven pages. It really didn't 777 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 1: take me that long to read, I don't think. But 778 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 1: there's just a lot of stuff in there. And again, 779 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,919 Speaker 1: I feel terrible for her. I feel terrible for any 780 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 1: woman who has been taking advantage of because they did 781 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,920 Speaker 1: take advantage of her one hundred percent one hundred percent, 782 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 1: But she's it was kind of like she was playing 783 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 1: along with it to keep her job. You know, I 784 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 1: don't know if she felt trapped, if she was afraid, 785 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 1: she was afraid of physical harm, because there are there 786 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 1: was an instance where she said he hit her. 787 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that. 788 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 1: So you know, again, like, who do you believe? 789 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 3: As the interviews start to come out to you know, 790 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,239 Speaker 3: people are gonna start doing podcasts and then they have been. 791 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 3: People are gonna get asked questions. You know, people are 792 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 3: also releasing statements. I listened to click this to Kevin 793 00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 3: Nash podcast. He was a little I would say, a 794 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 3: little laissez fair when it comes to answering the question, 795 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 3: because he said, you know, since Triple H is his buddy, 796 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,440 Speaker 3: he doesn't really want to comment on it and he's 797 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 3: not going to read it because of that. 798 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 2: But he wasn't as like I would say fair with 799 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 2: his breakdown of the whole thing. 800 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 3: He kind of like took shots at Janelle Grant's lawyer 801 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 3: and like he said that the texts seemed like more 802 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 3: fantasy play, which somebody else did say to me as well. 803 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 3: A wrestler in a former WWE superstar said thought fantasy 804 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:46,399 Speaker 3: play as well. But I think the more that's come out, 805 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 3: that's kind of subsided, right would you agree? Maybe at 806 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,719 Speaker 3: first you think weird, maybe fantasy. Now I think we're 807 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:56,319 Speaker 3: thinking it's more of the truth. 808 00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 1: Well, I mean some of the text messages. It was him, 809 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,839 Speaker 1: I guess, just maybe trying to role play, a fantasy play, 810 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:09,920 Speaker 1: whatever you call it, because those scenarios weren't happening. He 811 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,800 Speaker 1: would say, I want to see blah blah blah do 812 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,200 Speaker 1: this to you. I want to see three blah blah 813 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 1: blahs in your blah blah blah, like he like the 814 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 1: things that he was texting her. It didn't happen. He 815 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 1: was just going off on his own, you know, sick, 816 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:30,719 Speaker 1: perverted mind what he wanted to see her do. But 817 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 1: then he would say to her, Okay, I want you 818 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,120 Speaker 1: to send me a video of you doing this. And 819 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,879 Speaker 1: you know, now with these these videos get out there, 820 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna see them. I wouldn't be surprised if that 821 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,760 Speaker 1: didn't end up on pornhop or something like in the future, 822 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, or celebrity. She's not a celebrity, 823 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 1: but you know, just online like that doesn't matter. 824 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,840 Speaker 2: It should become celebrity because I guess so. 825 00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:02,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I I just I feel bad for her, 826 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,480 Speaker 1: But this could have all been just prevented if she 827 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,840 Speaker 1: didn't take the you know, the first meeting. I understand 828 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 1: you want to go up there, you want to see 829 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,120 Speaker 1: what's going on. But as soon as things got weird, 830 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 1: she should have left, get another job, just do something else. This, 831 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,920 Speaker 1: I mean, this didn't have to happen. Unfortunately it did, 832 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,400 Speaker 1: and I feel bad for her. And I think all 833 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:31,719 Speaker 1: the men involved are pigs one hundred percent. She was 834 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,480 Speaker 1: taken advantage of, she was used, she was abused, They 835 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:39,720 Speaker 1: tossed her around like a rag doll. Terrible, terrible things 836 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 1: that they did to her. I'm not justifying anything, and 837 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 1: I'm not saying she asked for it, but she should 838 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 1: have just walked right out that door. 839 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 2: Incredible. 840 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,319 Speaker 3: Brett Hart says, I'm going to speak my truth. I'm 841 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,160 Speaker 3: not worried about Vince's feelings. He's never cared about mine. 842 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,000 Speaker 3: I don't have any problem with anybody kicking his head 843 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,920 Speaker 3: around the parking lot. I'm okay with the truth coming out. 844 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 3: I don't think this is the only incident of this 845 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,480 Speaker 3: kind of predatory behavior. 846 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 1: Wow, there you have it. 847 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,719 Speaker 2: I mean, it's incredible. There's gonna be more. 848 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:17,839 Speaker 1: There's gonna be more. 849 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:19,480 Speaker 2: Nick Nick Foley. 850 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,880 Speaker 3: I listened to what he said on his show Folly 851 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 3: is Pod. He basically was kind of crushed to hear 852 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,920 Speaker 3: that you know what's gonna happen to his legacy? Now? 853 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,440 Speaker 3: What if they wipe out all of Vince McMahon's footage 854 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 3: from WWE. That's mc foley's entire run. You know what 855 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 3: happens to mc foley is he get wiped out of 856 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,160 Speaker 3: ww history? Do they do? 857 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 1: They do that? Now? 858 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,840 Speaker 3: Chris ben Wogget's edited out of stuff full the. 859 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,480 Speaker 1: Time, allegedly murdered his family. 860 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,399 Speaker 3: But but they could What if they take out Vince 861 00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,400 Speaker 3: out of you never? What if they just take what 862 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,279 Speaker 3: if they say when we bring everything Netflix, we're not 863 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 3: uploading X, Y and Z to Netflix now and that 864 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:08,279 Speaker 3: includes this? 865 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 1: I then settles. Is there a way to settle this? 866 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,680 Speaker 2: And just I mean in a way to settle it? Yeah, 867 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,120 Speaker 2: but remember she didn't care about the money. 868 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,759 Speaker 3: She's not give a shit if he gives Hey, here's 869 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,239 Speaker 3: the other two mill that I held back, or here's 870 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 3: a one hundred mill go away. 871 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,399 Speaker 2: She wants to take him down. 872 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:30,200 Speaker 1: How much is he worth? 873 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,400 Speaker 2: Bills? Billions billions, like a billionaires? 874 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:38,040 Speaker 3: Because remember the thing was if he was removed from TKO, 875 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 3: he got another couple hundred million. 876 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:44,320 Speaker 2: And he gone. 877 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:45,799 Speaker 3: And here's the other thing, did. 878 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,960 Speaker 2: You hear this about the TKO thing. 879 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 3: So Ari Emmanuel, the head honchhow of TKO. His daughter 880 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 3: was working at the WWE offices during this has she 881 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:00,879 Speaker 3: come for over the last two years? 882 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 2: Excuse me, last two years, not my bit. 883 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,120 Speaker 1: He hasn't said anything, right. 884 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,480 Speaker 2: Oh, I have heard that, but he was curious when 885 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:06,880 Speaker 2: he heard that. 886 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:13,360 Speaker 1: Well, you know what somebody had posted on Twitter. I 887 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,239 Speaker 1: don't know what year it was, but I guess it 888 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 1: was from raw. It was Vince McMahon and Stephanie and 889 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:24,279 Speaker 1: Stephanie cutting a promo on her dad about when I 890 00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,360 Speaker 1: was seventeen years old and you made me go with 891 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,640 Speaker 1: all those businessmen. Yeah, but I did what you But 892 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,000 Speaker 1: how ironic is it? 893 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:32,880 Speaker 2: It's weird. 894 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,360 Speaker 1: It's very weird. Weird, It's very weird. 895 00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,640 Speaker 3: But okay, but then you can also point out there's 896 00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,279 Speaker 3: a segment with Hulk Hogan and Vince McMahon where he 897 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,200 Speaker 3: puts him on a lie detector tests and Hulk Hogan says, 898 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,840 Speaker 3: are you a you know, are you a perverted power 899 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,440 Speaker 3: hungry freak out? And he says no, and the thing 900 00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,759 Speaker 3: goes eh right, So I mean it too. 901 00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:02,600 Speaker 1: He's a weirdo. Like these angles and these perverting, like 902 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:06,480 Speaker 1: he wanted to have an incest angle with Stephanie. Like, 903 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,920 Speaker 1: how out of the boxes. 904 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 3: That cray nexophilia, remember the nectophilia. 905 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,640 Speaker 1: It's just so weird, like he's a weird dude. I 906 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 1: suppose this just solidifies it's not just business. It's not 907 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,600 Speaker 1: just a weirdo for the ratings. He's a weirdo in 908 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:25,160 Speaker 1: real life. 909 00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:30,560 Speaker 3: If this is true, how about what Wait a second, 910 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,120 Speaker 3: Wait a second, Wait a second, wait a second, I'm 911 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 3: gonna ask this nice and soul. 912 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,279 Speaker 1: Are you a. 913 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,120 Speaker 3: Perverted, power hungry freak? 914 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 1: Oh god, let his day. 915 00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:55,799 Speaker 3: No, I'm a very well respected businessman the world over. 916 00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:00,880 Speaker 3: Ah yeah, I mean he pulled fun at it. So, 917 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 3: I mean the thing So there was that one where 918 00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,319 Speaker 3: she said you pip me out basically yeah, But then 919 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,520 Speaker 3: there was another one where he says, go home and 920 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,960 Speaker 3: tell your mother that after the ink is dry on 921 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 3: the divorce, I'm gonna get a girlfriend and she's gonna 922 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 3: be younger than you. 923 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. Why not? Does he have a girlfriend? Now? 924 00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:25,080 Speaker 2: Probably? 925 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 1: You know, come on, you know what, the people don't 926 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,040 Speaker 1: care you like his mustache? 927 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,400 Speaker 2: OJ had girlfriends? 928 00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,760 Speaker 1: Okay, well you've got prostate cancer. 929 00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:36,760 Speaker 3: I saw that. I did see that today. 930 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:41,040 Speaker 1: I think that's what I read. Anyway, look this story, Uh, 931 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,680 Speaker 1: there's gonna be more to it. If there is, we'll 932 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,280 Speaker 1: cover it. Bottom line is my heart goes out to 933 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,640 Speaker 1: the girl Janelle. I feel horrible for her, I really 934 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:56,640 Speaker 1: really do. I'm disgusted by again any man that was 935 00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:01,960 Speaker 1: involved in any of this because it's gross. But I 936 00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,000 Speaker 1: just wish she would have just walked away. That's all 937 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I wish she would have just left his 938 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:12,600 Speaker 1: apartment like the minute he got weird and said now 939 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,680 Speaker 1: I don't need this job and blocked him on her phone. 940 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:18,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. 941 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,720 Speaker 2: That's that's my thing, chastise for being a dirty old man. 942 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,160 Speaker 3: What if she told him to grow the mustache. 943 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:27,760 Speaker 1: I doubt it. 944 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 2: She said, you look great, you look young. 945 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:30,760 Speaker 1: Do we know how old she is? 946 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 3: She looked lifting stories, so that one picture that's bandied about. 947 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,880 Speaker 3: I thought she was like in her twenties, yeah, said 948 00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:44,600 Speaker 3: she's forty three. I mean, you know north, I'm north 949 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,440 Speaker 3: of the four and I think that, and I get 950 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 3: told all the time, I don't look that age. 951 00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:53,760 Speaker 2: Yeah I don't look like I'm in my twenties, but yeah, 952 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 2: she looks like it in her twenties. 953 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,360 Speaker 1: She looks like a before picture on the fake commercials 954 00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,120 Speaker 1: where I. 955 00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,600 Speaker 3: Saw another picture that was not as good as that 956 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,760 Speaker 3: one where she looked older. So that's where I'm not 957 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,120 Speaker 3: to picture her though. Yeah maybe, but so I've heard 958 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,080 Speaker 3: forty three of her thirty seven. 959 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,959 Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know, but uh, a girl, very pretty girl. 960 00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:16,840 Speaker 2: Nice picture. 961 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,400 Speaker 1: It's just really unfortunate that, you know, and I'm sure 962 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:28,160 Speaker 1: this happens all over the world where women get used 963 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,920 Speaker 1: and abused, and I mean, you just have to have 964 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,520 Speaker 1: the balls to tell them no and walk away. And 965 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,280 Speaker 1: if you lose your job, you lose your job, get 966 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:40,680 Speaker 1: another job. I know it's it's not that easy. I 967 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:45,280 Speaker 1: understand that, but my god, look at all the things 968 00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,400 Speaker 1: that this girl's going through right now. Yeah, you know, 969 00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,360 Speaker 1: can't leave her house for weeks, sick as a dog, 970 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:57,640 Speaker 1: depression for him, incredible. 971 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:00,000 Speaker 2: You know what she should have said to him? 972 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:01,040 Speaker 1: What's that? 973 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:08,360 Speaker 2: Oh crap, you're so bad, You're the worst. 974 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:10,479 Speaker 3: Do it again? 975 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:12,760 Speaker 1: You know what she should have said to him? 976 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:15,680 Speaker 3: You know what what. 977 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:18,480 Speaker 2: She should have said to him? 978 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:25,840 Speaker 1: What what? 979 01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:28,680 Speaker 2: That's what she should have said? 980 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:30,720 Speaker 1: Brutal? 981 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,160 Speaker 3: Well, there were some other stuff that happened while you 982 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:39,320 Speaker 3: were gone. Whatever the rock he was back. Everybody's pissed. 983 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,160 Speaker 3: Now he's a heel and him and Roman might be 984 01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,000 Speaker 3: teaming up against Cody and could be Seth. 985 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:46,360 Speaker 2: Seth might not be cleared. 986 01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,800 Speaker 3: I saw somebody pitch that maybe should be Stone Cold 987 01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:51,520 Speaker 3: Steve Austin. That would be epic. 988 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,320 Speaker 1: Imagine that that'd be his last and he looking for 989 01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:56,080 Speaker 1: a last match. 990 01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:56,560 Speaker 3: Could be. 991 01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,840 Speaker 2: But I mean, like, literally, who gives a shite? 992 01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,320 Speaker 3: Well, who gives a shit? I mean really, who cares? 993 01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:07,360 Speaker 1: Everybody who is into WrestleMania cares because we want Cody. 994 01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:13,360 Speaker 1: Hashtag was all over socials. So guess what. The WWE 995 01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:18,280 Speaker 1: universe has spoken and WWE listened. So there you go. 996 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,720 Speaker 2: Okay, sidebar. Do you really think they listened or do 997 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,160 Speaker 2: you think this was the plan all along? 998 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:24,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. 999 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:25,439 Speaker 2: I think it was the plan. 1000 01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:25,920 Speaker 3: I think it was. 1001 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:27,720 Speaker 1: I like to think they listened to the people. 1002 01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,360 Speaker 2: Did you see any of that press conference? 1003 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:32,840 Speaker 3: Now? It was. 1004 01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:34,400 Speaker 2: It was very well done. 1005 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 3: If you like a good angle and you want to 1006 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:41,040 Speaker 3: watch about a minute and thirty seconds of a video, 1007 01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:43,320 Speaker 3: check it out on your Twitter feed. 1008 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,880 Speaker 2: It was and you know who it was. 1009 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:53,479 Speaker 3: Sorry modern fans. Sorry, it was because of the Rock. 1010 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,640 Speaker 3: The Rock is the one who made it. Because if 1011 01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:01,800 Speaker 3: it wasn't for the Old School, there would be no business. 1012 01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:03,920 Speaker 2: And the Rock saved everything. 1013 01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 1: I saw him on Pat McPhee. He was funny. Did 1014 01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:09,320 Speaker 1: you see that clip? 1015 01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:10,600 Speaker 3: Yes, he was awesome. 1016 01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:16,320 Speaker 1: It's kind of like telling everybody front of your computers, 1017 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,120 Speaker 1: we will Coddy, he said. 1018 01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,680 Speaker 3: She said, Dad, can we go play catch? 1019 01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:22,480 Speaker 2: Sorry? 1020 01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,920 Speaker 3: Sorry son, hashtag Cody whatever. 1021 01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:29,640 Speaker 1: It was, and then the wife comes in, you want 1022 01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,160 Speaker 1: to have sex, No, we want Cody. I have to 1023 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:36,800 Speaker 1: stay on the computer and do my hashtags. Hilarious right right? 1024 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:38,320 Speaker 2: Oh and the other thing too. 1025 01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,320 Speaker 3: While you were gone, they officially announced Dark Side of 1026 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:44,400 Speaker 3: the Ring with the sand Man. 1027 01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:49,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, with him tomorrow, which we're recording this on 1028 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,560 Speaker 1: Friday night. I'm gonna be with him and Todd Gordon 1029 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:56,680 Speaker 1: tomorrow for our Wrestling Universe gimmick. So maybe I'll have 1030 01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,520 Speaker 1: him come on after it airs and we can talk 1031 01:02:59,520 --> 01:02:59,880 Speaker 1: about it. 1032 01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,560 Speaker 2: I think we totally. 1033 01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:06,320 Speaker 3: I'm honestly, I've been waiting for this one for what 1034 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 3: two years? 1035 01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:12,680 Speaker 1: Here here's what it's gonna be like. Yeah, yo, I 1036 01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:17,480 Speaker 1: did drugs, yoo. Yeah, I was a Chippendale. Yo. 1037 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was so close to Like, I was going 1038 01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,200 Speaker 3: down my rolodex of people to start messaging. I was 1039 01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,520 Speaker 3: going to reach out to Tyler right and be like, hmm, 1040 01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,400 Speaker 3: he might not be bad, and like, wonder if him 1041 01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:33,520 Speaker 3: and his dad are around? You imagine Sam Man is 1042 01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:34,640 Speaker 3: a half filling for you. 1043 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:37,400 Speaker 2: Can you imagine that. 1044 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,440 Speaker 1: He's starting a podcast He's trying to anyway? 1045 01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:44,640 Speaker 3: Is he trying to well, listen, trying to If he tries, 1046 01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:45,960 Speaker 3: I'm sure he's. 1047 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:49,960 Speaker 1: Like, Yo, how do you use a green scream? Oh 1048 01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 1: my god? I said, I'll have to walk you through it. 1049 01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,040 Speaker 1: He's the best. Well, we'll have them on. 1050 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,080 Speaker 2: I got nothing else. 1051 01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:05,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, this was again don't come at me, ladies, 1052 01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,640 Speaker 1: if you're listening to this. I I have much love 1053 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:14,120 Speaker 1: for the females in the business. Uh for Janelle, Like 1054 01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,040 Speaker 1: I said, if my whole thing was that, she just 1055 01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,960 Speaker 1: would have left. I don't know the circumstances, you know, 1056 01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:25,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how desperately she needed money. But just 1057 01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:29,160 Speaker 1: don't don't put yourself in that situation, is all I'm saying. 1058 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,520 Speaker 1: And if you know, if you get fired, to get fired, 1059 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:35,919 Speaker 1: your dignity and self respect is worth more. 1060 01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:42,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, so totally yeah, but uh that's it. 1061 01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:43,480 Speaker 1: That's all I got. 1062 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:50,160 Speaker 3: Well, let's see, I would I would recommend wholeheartedly that 1063 01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,640 Speaker 3: the listening folks head over to the YouTube channel for 1064 01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:59,400 Speaker 3: eys of Here, the ECW Diva Francine's official YouTube channel, 1065 01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,640 Speaker 3: where you get all all the greatness that is this 1066 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,960 Speaker 3: audio version of the Eyes up Here show with Francine, 1067 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:10,800 Speaker 3: but with a video component and a huge archive with 1068 01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:19,440 Speaker 3: exclusive video with interviews with past ECW superstars, WWE superstars, 1069 01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:25,120 Speaker 3: some current superstars of Impact Wrestling, and watch alongs and 1070 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:28,080 Speaker 3: stuff from our old Patreon archive, and just a ton 1071 01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,720 Speaker 3: of additional content, both on the membership tier but also 1072 01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:33,919 Speaker 3: on the free side as well. And if you haven't 1073 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,880 Speaker 3: joined us over there, it's close to that ten thousand mark. 1074 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:39,200 Speaker 1: I think so close. 1075 01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:44,320 Speaker 2: I mean, look, it's in smell range. Now, Okay, just 1076 01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:45,000 Speaker 2: get over there. 1077 01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:50,280 Speaker 3: Click subscribe, like it, subscribe to like videos, share them, 1078 01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:51,000 Speaker 3: do whatever you gotta do. 1079 01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:54,040 Speaker 2: Get over there, please join us, and you know you 1080 01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:55,400 Speaker 2: won't be disappointed, am I right? 1081 01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,920 Speaker 1: You're right. We work hard on it and it's a 1082 01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:03,840 Speaker 1: fun channel and we'll be doing let we're doing a 1083 01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,120 Speaker 1: live for my birthday. We have to we have to 1084 01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:10,160 Speaker 1: pick a d My birthday's coming on my birthday's February nineteenth. 1085 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,600 Speaker 2: Let's do a live now that day. You know I'm 1086 01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,480 Speaker 2: also busy, so I'll have to let you know on. 1087 01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:19,080 Speaker 1: The February nineteenth. 1088 01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:20,400 Speaker 3: Well, you know I'm busy that day. 1089 01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,680 Speaker 2: Well night, maybe I might be freed up. Perhaps when 1090 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,320 Speaker 2: we do the lives, we'll figure it out. 1091 01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god, well I want to do it on 1092 01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:29,360 Speaker 1: my birthday. 1093 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:30,880 Speaker 2: So we'll figure it out. 1094 01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,400 Speaker 1: If he can't come, I'll be I'll be alone doing 1095 01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:34,960 Speaker 1: a doing a stream. 1096 01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,240 Speaker 2: Figure it out. I got I got eight I got 1097 01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:38,919 Speaker 2: eight party candles that night as well. 1098 01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:41,800 Speaker 1: Oh Jesus, okay, oh that's true. 1099 01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,480 Speaker 2: I forgot about the little break my daughter's birthdays the 1100 01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:46,960 Speaker 2: same day. 1101 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,080 Speaker 1: Can't you celebrates on the twentieth. We got stuff to do. 1102 01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,040 Speaker 1: We'll figure it out, all right, we'll figure it out anyway, 1103 01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,640 Speaker 1: going over there, Yes, a live is coming though, Yeah, 1104 01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,840 Speaker 1: live's coming. And you know it's free to subscribe, so 1105 01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,800 Speaker 1: click the subscribe button, ring the bell so you get 1106 01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,080 Speaker 1: the notifications and join the family. 1107 01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,240 Speaker 3: We'd love to have you, absolutely, and if you want 1108 01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:10,280 Speaker 3: to follow me, it's at Chatty and B on Twitter 1109 01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:14,400 Speaker 3: at IB Exclusives on Instagram, Ibexclusives. 1110 01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:17,640 Speaker 2: Dot com website, and also Get My Go on YouTube. 1111 01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,400 Speaker 3: A couple of new episodes dropped in the last couple 1112 01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:28,280 Speaker 3: of weeks, including UH basically the precursor to Nick Houseman, 1113 01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:32,080 Speaker 3: the UH You've done interviews at Nick Houseman. He had 1114 01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:35,680 Speaker 3: an Yes you did for Wrestling Wrestling, Inc. I think, 1115 01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:40,760 Speaker 3: but he had an epic meltdown on social media. But 1116 01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,720 Speaker 3: we kind of had like a precursor episode about him 1117 01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:45,560 Speaker 3: because he he's the one who tried to kind of 1118 01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,400 Speaker 3: bring down Chris Jericho a few weeks ago. Oh okay, 1119 01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:50,840 Speaker 3: and we did an episode about him, so please check 1120 01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:52,280 Speaker 3: it out on YouTube, Get. 1121 01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:55,480 Speaker 1: My Go okay. If you want to follow me across 1122 01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:58,360 Speaker 1: the board on social media, you can find me at ECW, 1123 01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,560 Speaker 1: dvat Frizzin. I hope you're staying safe. I hope you're 1124 01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:04,200 Speaker 1: staying healthy, and most of all, I hope you are 1125 01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:05,560 Speaker 1: staying extreme.