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Speaker 1: Let's get down to do it. Good do it. We
Speaker 1: asked the questions you always want to know, but no
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Speaker 1: heard about it, then we're about to left you. Now.
Speaker 1: It's all man, we want to welcome to the cut
Speaker 1: to a podcast. We got. We have a w W
Speaker 1: wrestler nickname. I'm not even gonna say the other part,
Speaker 1: just greatness. When any time your nickname involves greatness, I
Speaker 1: think it's pretty. I think it's really special. And then's
Speaker 1: your signal, it's your move. You pop up spine buster.
Speaker 1: Yeah I don't. I don't know how you do the
Speaker 1: spine buster, but my spine is cringing thinking about it.
Speaker 1: And also to not to not to hold it against him.
Speaker 1: He's from Ohio where they still have not fixed football.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Welcome to the Cut to It podcast. Angelo,
Speaker 1: don they no problem. I'm my biggest shirt on for
Speaker 1: you to Okay. He is a he's a proud Bakers fan,
Speaker 1: Like that's all you say on your social media, Like
Speaker 1: you you hold no punches when it comes to your
Speaker 1: fandom for the Bengers, not at all. Man's I mean,
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be Finally, you should be excited. You obviously
Speaker 1: are living in a state with two teams. I haven't
Speaker 1: really did much uh most of their u NFL experience,
Speaker 1: but yet you have this one year of hope that
Speaker 1: you believe it is gonna change, uh, decades and decades
Speaker 1: of failure. So I'm happy that you're there. Look, Yo,
Speaker 1: as much smack as I talked, I can't really lie.
Speaker 1: So you talked when they went to the postseason, I
Speaker 1: was like, hey, just give me one playoff win. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see playoff win in my life of being on
Speaker 1: this earth. And they were one player with winning the
Speaker 1: Super Like, hey, you know what, y'all gave me everything
Speaker 1: I hoped for. So we had the miss on and
Speaker 1: he's a Browns fan. So you said you talked smack
Speaker 1: like you do you talk smack to the miss I
Speaker 1: mean he's a Browns fan, you're a Bengals fan. Like,
Speaker 1: what's that? What's that interact? Are you? Okay? Of course
Speaker 1: I talked smack to him. You know what I mean. Look,
Speaker 1: he was going through it this year. You know, he
Speaker 1: thought that they were gonna you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: make it to the super Bowl. Everything the Bengals did,
Speaker 1: he did. He thought the Browns were gonna do everything.
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow came out to be shot. He was. He
Speaker 1: thought that the Beings, I mean, excuse me, the Browns
Speaker 1: were gonna have that kind of success. Brother, do you
Speaker 1: not watch do you not watch the Detroit Lions fan base.
Speaker 1: They think they're gonna win every year. I just thought
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of sensibility. But we did
Speaker 1: have the same conversation with him, so it's not like
Speaker 1: this is this is new he was so we couldn't.
Speaker 1: It was all over the place. We couldn't. But what
Speaker 1: what is it like for for you to argue with
Speaker 1: the mens when pretty much both of the like, you're like,
Speaker 1: you guys are arguing over the last Now later I
Speaker 1: would say rose colored glasses, and they would be brown
Speaker 1: like actually not a non like. It's like y'all are arguing, Well,
Speaker 1: you have a bigger piece of moldy bread than I do. Look,
Speaker 1: you know, we get it. Both of teams haven't been
Speaker 1: particularly great in the in the last two decades. Yeah, true, true,
Speaker 1: but really look at it. Cincinnati's had more listen, Cleveland
Speaker 1: has ever had. We could say that, right, I would
Speaker 1: agree with one little, one little spur two years ago.
Speaker 1: But other than that, like at least Cincinnati has made
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Like the point time, we're like, oh yo,
Speaker 1: Cincinnati could be like do something, but they just kept losing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would give you that. I would give you And
Speaker 1: because of that, that's how you guys have put yourself
Speaker 1: in a position now to to to really be in
Speaker 1: a conversation of a young team. That's if they continue
Speaker 1: to add the pieces that they could be very successful.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so you're cheap man. I'm just happy they
Speaker 1: invested in the old line this year. That's that's all
Speaker 1: I'm apping for. You got is right now and y'all
Speaker 1: went to the dance. So yeah, but let's get started.
Speaker 1: Man um growing up? What was your favorite TV show
Speaker 1: growing up? My favorite TV show? Man um or shows
Speaker 1: sounds Yeah, you had to look like one's too hard
Speaker 1: to pick. Yeah, so I mean we gotta go Steve
Speaker 1: Harvey show, Bernie Max Show. I was a big mad
Speaker 1: TV guy, when it was still on and it's prime.
Speaker 1: Take it to a little cartoons. Um, I was a
Speaker 1: big Recess guy. One Saturday morning, Guy Pepper ran on
Speaker 1: Lloyden's Space, Street Sharks, Static Shock. Those are my favorite
Speaker 1: shows right there. Those. But I was gonna double back
Speaker 1: on Steve Harve because that's not when you're here all
Speaker 1: the time. No, I like, what was Steve's name in
Speaker 1: the Steve Harvey show, Steve Steve hot Tower. He wouldn't
Speaker 1: even Steve Harvey. He was was he he went the
Speaker 1: principle he was a teacher teacher because I think the
Speaker 1: principle said that he was that he was the coach.
Speaker 1: He was a gym coach. Uh the Regina Regina was
Speaker 1: Regina was the principal. Yeah, yeah, I missed all those
Speaker 1: cartoons though. Yeah, I do remember Recess, but I don't
Speaker 1: remember some of the other ones. What was something that
Speaker 1: that was like towards like the later pepperre came on
Speaker 1: when Recess pep Pepper. See, my mom had us clean
Speaker 1: and so I missed all that stuff. By that twn
Speaker 1: the whole house and my life had below. So it
Speaker 1: sounds like Saturday Saturday morning, it was time to clean
Speaker 1: up right, Yeah, I was, you know, obviously Batman. Um,
Speaker 1: but right after Batman though, Oh Batman the animated series, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: bat Man. Adam West on Saturday mornings. Yeah, you ushould
Speaker 1: be on at eleven o'clock. Don't try to say you
Speaker 1: a little older than me that I thought. I thought
Speaker 1: you saw about the animated one. We're like a little
Speaker 1: shorter years. I watched that one, but I'm talking about
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Adam West, chee Batman. That was. That
Speaker 1: was Saturday morning and we can't mention it. But that's
Speaker 1: when wrestling would follow after that. I will watch wrestling, right,
Speaker 1: That's what my love for wrestling was. Their superstars. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the beefcake, get your hair cut? Right. We gotta get
Speaker 1: to the nostalgia. Yeah, I feel like Angela gonna rock
Speaker 1: with us a little bit more nostalgia. Um. Let's see, man,
Speaker 1: you're talking about snacks before you got on here. What's
Speaker 1: what's one of your go to snacks? Gummy words? M hm?
Speaker 1: Out of that, doun'my worms. That's been my my goal
Speaker 1: to ever since I was a little kid. Really, so
Speaker 1: when you go to movies, you get you get gummy worms.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well not really get gummy worms, sneak them
Speaker 1: into the movies. I mean this is this is a
Speaker 1: recorded line. Man, I go a red vnes, I go
Speaker 1: a red v red vines. Okay, yeah, Like I'm not
Speaker 1: a twiztlers guy like red vines with the popcorn. I
Speaker 1: sneak them into because they don't have they don't have
Speaker 1: red vines. They got Twister. I don't know why you
Speaker 1: want the twisters. Yeah, ain't ain't real liquor, pretty shaky.
Speaker 1: I'll pay for the popcorn, but candy I gotta sneak
Speaker 1: in on my own, like seventeen dollars. It's like, Tim,
Speaker 1: you know it's it's funny. Just it's way off topic,
Speaker 1: way off topic, right, is it, Tim Bucks Small? Here's
Speaker 1: here's the craziest thing you want to talk about. My
Speaker 1: dad used to we used to go before we went
Speaker 1: to the movies, we will go to nine nine cent
Speaker 1: store right and get candy at the nine story. Was
Speaker 1: like five of them for nine nine sent And I
Speaker 1: never understood, like, why are we going to nine nine
Speaker 1: sisto with a good candy is at the register? We
Speaker 1: was parsed, that's why you should have just told me,
Speaker 1: But I didn't realize yet that and I still do
Speaker 1: it now. I'm I'm leaning towards that way too. My
Speaker 1: kids don't go to nine nine story dog like because
Speaker 1: I had realized, like the economy, some of the candy
Speaker 1: at the nine s story ain't up to date. Dog.
Speaker 1: That's your responsibility as parents, check check the days. But
Speaker 1: it built that a music. Right, there's COVID, which is contagious,
Speaker 1: but then there's salmonella for black folks were good you
Speaker 1: never heard of yeah, you know when you heard about it. Though,
Speaker 1: when you eat the mother folks potato salad, that always
Speaker 1: get you potato salad, it's true. Well, you you eat,
Speaker 1: you get your old kid. That's a that's an inter
Speaker 1: at your home. Somebody else potatoes. You eat some old candy.
Speaker 1: So questions some questionable protein, right, you see. I wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna say you eat some questionable protein and still make it.
Speaker 1: But you eat some other folks potato salad, man, they'll
Speaker 1: run through you about three am. I'm here, we're fresh
Speaker 1: off the more your da up up? Oh man, all right,
Speaker 1: let's get into it. A man. Well man, where are
Speaker 1: you from in the place you call your hometown? I'm
Speaker 1: from Cincinnati, Ohio. Grew up in Fairfield, which basically Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: just like ten minutes away. Uh. Yeah, I grew up
Speaker 1: there the same schools Jackson Carmen, one of the Bengals
Speaker 1: old linemen. Yeah, I was gonna google It's like now
Speaker 1: they go to school with Jordan, just some lineman we
Speaker 1: don't know about. I like it. I love your pride, man,
Speaker 1: I love your pride. I'm the same way with uh
Speaker 1: l a bro So. I love the pride. Is where
Speaker 1: you from, is where you're from. I can't deny it,
Speaker 1: you know. Uh, if you're proud of you, always represented you,
Speaker 1: always cheering for it. Um. So, man, that's that's remarkable.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Uh. You know, tell us growing up Fairfoot,
Speaker 1: Ohio slash Cincinnati. Um, what are some of the things
Speaker 1: that you experienced that that has impacted you when you
Speaker 1: sit down and think about it. Uh. Some of the
Speaker 1: things that impacted me, Um, just being able to uh
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Grow up. It was just
Speaker 1: me and my mom, so Uh it was I just
Speaker 1: pretty much had to grow up and be a man
Speaker 1: pretty early. Uh, and just learn how to be the
Speaker 1: man of the house and be able to take care
Speaker 1: of things and being able to answer university and my
Speaker 1: mom was pretty tough for me anyway, Like with school
Speaker 1: just kept me out of trouble, put me in sports,
Speaker 1: So I was pretty busy during the summer when school
Speaker 1: wasn't happening. Um, yeah, like I just stayed busy, stayed
Speaker 1: playing sports, and stayed out of trouble. You made the
Speaker 1: statement of have being a man in the house. What
Speaker 1: did what did that mean to be the man of house? What? What?
Speaker 1: What were those responsibilities that you're referring to? So like
Speaker 1: ere every times when my mom would get off late
Speaker 1: from work, so like sometimes I had to cook dinner
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, make sure my homework's done, uh,
Speaker 1: sometimes clean the house up and make sure everything's good
Speaker 1: so my mom ain't really gotta worry about it to
Speaker 1: where like she just comes in. She can just you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, get off her feet for a
Speaker 1: little bit, watch a little TV, eat a little mill,
Speaker 1: go to bed, make sure everything's good, and then do
Speaker 1: whatever she needed to do. And I just basically just
Speaker 1: took care of that as much as I could. Whenever
Speaker 1: I saw that I had to pick up the slap
Speaker 1: that she was not gonna be home late. I always
Speaker 1: made sure when she said, hey, take the chicken out,
Speaker 1: the freezer was out the freezer because you learned the
Speaker 1: hard way. Yeah, I learned the hard way about what
Speaker 1: is the alternative? Uh? You know, the plug out your mouth,
Speaker 1: get your teeth straight, hongry dog. I don't know what
Speaker 1: you're saying, so as as what were you when you
Speaker 1: were when you were growing up? What were those initial dreams?
Speaker 1: What do you want to be when you grew up
Speaker 1: back then? What do you dream about? Honestly, wanted to
Speaker 1: be in the NFL. Actually I wanted to play football
Speaker 1: when I was younger, um, but that ended up not
Speaker 1: working out necessarily. Like, I had no plans of ever wrestling.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know wrestling really existed until I knew
Speaker 1: w W existed, But I didn't know like amateur wrestling
Speaker 1: existed until I was a junior in high school and
Speaker 1: our security guard at the school he was one of
Speaker 1: the wrestling coaches, and he was like, he should come
Speaker 1: tryal for the wrestling team. Hold on what I'm saying, like, hey,
Speaker 1: to help you out with football. My mom wasn't really
Speaker 1: up for it. She wanted me to play basketball. So
Speaker 1: I was like oh no, I go try wrestling. And
Speaker 1: I tried it. I mean the practices were hard, but
Speaker 1: the tournaments and the duel meets a lot of fun
Speaker 1: and I just became like really good at it. Um.
Speaker 1: But I still like focused on football. Ended up graduating
Speaker 1: high school and going to Juco College and Harper College
Speaker 1: Harper College in Illinois, and I played football there. I
Speaker 1: had no intentions of wrestling after high school, Like I
Speaker 1: had to cut weight to get the two fifteen. I
Speaker 1: wanted to enjoy Thanksgiving, enjoy Christmas, be able to eat
Speaker 1: a lot and uh get ahold of uh some potato
Speaker 1: salad during those holidays. But uh but now um, but yeah,
Speaker 1: like I had no plans of wrestling in college after
Speaker 1: high school, and so a bunch of heavyweights got hurt
Speaker 1: and the wrestling coach came and tried to recruit me
Speaker 1: to come wrestle for him in college, and I was like, nah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna go home and enjoy myself. And then
Speaker 1: second some master started and our defensive coordinator tracked me
Speaker 1: down on campus dragged me to the wrestling coach's office,
Speaker 1: say hey, you got your heavyweight here, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I guess I'm wrestling, And so I ended up wrestling
Speaker 1: in college. I was like one match away from all Americans,
Speaker 1: with like half the season already done. And then I
Speaker 1: ended up getting recruited to go to w W. So
Speaker 1: I just I wanted to be a football player and
Speaker 1: I ended up becoming a professional wrestling. Well, let's unpack
Speaker 1: that one. Who's the security guard in high school? That? Uh,
Speaker 1: that that introduce you to wrestling? Kenny Poe, defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: at your college where there's four year community. I don't
Speaker 1: care what it is. It's still at college and you're
Speaker 1: pursuing that. How did that sit with you a little
Speaker 1: bit at that point in time? I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: I guess I ain't got no choices about it. Did
Speaker 1: you play football after that? Or you just you Oh no,
Speaker 1: I still played football. I did both. I did both
Speaker 1: football and wrestling. So like we had just got done
Speaker 1: with football season, um and we uh ended up winning
Speaker 1: the national championship for Juico that year for non scholarship Juco,
Speaker 1: and like guy, like it was like the season was done,
Speaker 1: was getting ready for the off season, getting ready for
Speaker 1: next season and all that stuff, and they just told
Speaker 1: me to go, like, hey, I want you to go
Speaker 1: join wrestling. I don't know if it was just to
Speaker 1: keep me busy, just like make sure I don't like
Speaker 1: like do anything crazy and like make sure I keep
Speaker 1: my head like keep my head straight and focused all
Speaker 1: year so I can like do be good and be
Speaker 1: the best I could be. But it was just like
Speaker 1: h and I also think it was like we a
Speaker 1: bunch of the guys from the football team. We had
Speaker 1: like a little deal or like some of us wrestled,
Speaker 1: so like some of us will get together and wrestle,
Speaker 1: and I ended up beating that everybody, so they're dogs
Speaker 1: is pretty good. So they was like, hey, we got
Speaker 1: this kid on the football team. He was like, he's
Speaker 1: pretty good at football, but he can help you out
Speaker 1: and wrestling. So that's how that came about. That he
Speaker 1: just dragged me to the room, was like, hey, got
Speaker 1: your heavyweight, got there, wrestled, and then uh, that's ended
Speaker 1: up how I ended up here. I love cut to
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Speaker 1: all my answers questions. Uh yeah, I got all my
Speaker 1: questions answered. That's what I'm here for, a brother, cut
Speaker 1: to a podcast dot com. How did you get the
Speaker 1: attention of w W when you were wrestling in college?
Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about that. That um, that transition.
Speaker 1: So uh that transition. We were at national dues, um
Speaker 1: so like I'm getting ready for a match, and like
Speaker 1: our coaches are wrestling coaches likes gonna play tricks on
Speaker 1: us and stuff like that, play a little jokes. So
Speaker 1: like they were like, hey, yo, Vince McMahon's right hand
Speaker 1: managed here to see you. He wants to talk to you.
Speaker 1: I'm like what And I'm like, nah, whatever, man like
Speaker 1: leave me alone, let me focus on this real quick,
Speaker 1: and so he is. They were like no, We're dead serious.
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah whatever, bro, Like all right, I'll play
Speaker 1: along with this guy. Let me want the smatch man.
Speaker 1: So I'm like getting warmed up, getting warmed up, go
Speaker 1: out there, ar wrestling matches over with I win, come
Speaker 1: back well, bearing a chair, breathing hard like you get
Speaker 1: trying to like barely could drink any water at that
Speaker 1: point in time. Sure enough, Jerry Briscoe comes up, was like, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm Jay Briscoe for the w w E. Like to
Speaker 1: talk to you about coming to trial for w w E.
Speaker 1: It was like, oh, so it wasn't a joke. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh so you guys were telling the truth.
Speaker 1: But did you have any idea how you got on that?
Speaker 1: Do you have any idea how you got on their radar?
Speaker 1: Like were you were you a ranked wrestler or do
Speaker 1: they just are they sending scouts out to to look
Speaker 1: like I guess you don't give us insight on it.
Speaker 1: Um So at that point in time, I was ranked
Speaker 1: nationally uh so. But Jerry Briscoe he used to wrestling
Speaker 1: amateurly as well. He was an amateur wrestler as well
Speaker 1: for Oklahoma State. He was All American back in the day.
Speaker 1: So that's and he wrestled in w w E for
Speaker 1: a very long time and he was in the front office.
Speaker 1: He would be the one that go recruit like the
Speaker 1: guys like Brock Lessner, Shelton, Benjamin and like all those
Speaker 1: amateur wrestlers, Curt Angle. Um, he was the guy that
Speaker 1: recruited those those guys and because he will go to
Speaker 1: all the tournaments and whatever and like, hey, like I
Speaker 1: think you would be really good. You should give it
Speaker 1: a trial, whatever you want. And so it was just
Speaker 1: like we talked from there and he ended up getting
Speaker 1: me a try out later on that year and then
Speaker 1: I've been here ever since. In wrestling, right, professional wrestling,
Speaker 1: amateur wrestling, Why do they need to Why having the
Speaker 1: history does it benefit you? Because obviously, like miss you know,
Speaker 1: not everybody has the history of wrestling in college, arrestling
Speaker 1: in high school something, you know something. Have learned the
Speaker 1: professional aspect of it by trial and there. Right, learning
Speaker 1: the moves are pretty like it got pretty easy. Um,
Speaker 1: it took a little took a little wild, but like
Speaker 1: learning the moves are pretty easy just because like athletes can,
Speaker 1: like I can learn pretty fast. Now, the theatrical part
Speaker 1: of it, the entertainment part, now, that was a part
Speaker 1: that kind of like I struggled with when I first
Speaker 1: got there because I'm always like serious and I'm like
Speaker 1: ready to go, like I'm I'm in the zone. But
Speaker 1: like I needed to be like show my face more,
Speaker 1: make more facial expressions, be more entertaining after I do
Speaker 1: a move instead of just like going right on them,
Speaker 1: like I hit a drop kick, get the crowd wild
Speaker 1: up and stuff like that, and like what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: just celebrate. You get into wrestling by you know, being dynamic.
Speaker 1: In college, you go through the process and you try out.
Speaker 1: How was trying out for you in your particular journey
Speaker 1: getting to the pinnacle you are today? It was actually
Speaker 1: a crazy experience. I didn't know what I was getting
Speaker 1: myself into necessarily. Uh, Like when I first got there,
Speaker 1: like when I was in college, I didn't really have
Speaker 1: money for a suit, so like I showed up in
Speaker 1: like house shoes and sweatpants in the hoodie. Everybody else
Speaker 1: is like decked out in suits and stuff. I'm like, oh, whoa, Yes,
Speaker 1: I didn't get that memo. So like it was just
Speaker 1: like oh snapping, Like people are just looking at me, like, yo,
Speaker 1: who is this guy pole? Like what is he doing
Speaker 1: to here? How did he even get like how did
Speaker 1: he get in the door. I'm like trying to figure
Speaker 1: it out. Yeah, I'm like, hey, I'm with I'm trying
Speaker 1: to figure this out myself. Man. I was like, I
Speaker 1: did not know you were supposed to come with me
Speaker 1: because in my mind, I don't thinking try out, like
Speaker 1: nothing about that and saying suit tie like a polo. Nothing.
Speaker 1: I just showed up. How shoes you to wrestle? Yeah? Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got my wrestling shoes, had my books back, and
Speaker 1: that's it showed. But but seriously, though, in those moments, though,
Speaker 1: did you ever find yourself like playing that comparison game?
Speaker 1: Because I just know being being a wrestling fan and
Speaker 1: coming up like you hear those stories of like Brett
Speaker 1: Hart's dad that would train all those people like in
Speaker 1: this basement. Did you ever play that comparison game? Because
Speaker 1: there are so many people that come into the business
Speaker 1: in various ways. Did you ever have that comparison game?
Speaker 1: Because there were there were cats that were there that
Speaker 1: had the boots and had the suits and had all
Speaker 1: those different things. Did you ever fall into that comparison game? Uh?
Speaker 1: Sometimes a little bit um but then like after a
Speaker 1: couple of years, like once I got hired in like
Speaker 1: a couple of years, that kind of like left and
Speaker 1: it was just like, look, I'm gonna be I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be me no matter what. And I've always been the
Speaker 1: guy that's always been very relaxed, very laid back and
Speaker 1: like never tried to worry about anybody else and try
Speaker 1: to control everything that I can control for me. And
Speaker 1: and so for a minute, I did play that little
Speaker 1: bit like it was like, oh man, damn, this dude
Speaker 1: miles ahead of me. Like but then again, like the
Speaker 1: cool part about it was I had zero experience coming
Speaker 1: in two that sad profession. Those guys have been doing
Speaker 1: it for like Double Digy Gears like ten years. Like
Speaker 1: I was in middle school with some of those dudes. Really,
Speaker 1: some of the guys there were like wrestling already around
Speaker 1: the world and stuff like that. The furthest I've ever
Speaker 1: been was Illinois, pretty much outside of Ohio, so I
Speaker 1: didn't really know what I was getting myself into. The
Speaker 1: trial was in Florida. I've never been in Florida before,
Speaker 1: so I've never been that far away from home. But
Speaker 1: like I learned from him, But at the same time,
Speaker 1: it was just like, all right, I can't really play
Speaker 1: this comparison game. Because I played this comparison game with him,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find myself out of here really fast, and
Speaker 1: so it's just more of a how can I find
Speaker 1: a way to stand out? And I stood out definitely
Speaker 1: with the sweatpants and our shoes. Everybody has suits. I
Speaker 1: was the only one. They're just chilling like, oh all right.
Speaker 1: A lot of athletes, some more than others, are able
Speaker 1: to process or eliminate um the internal dialogue, right, the
Speaker 1: mental aspect of it. But I do think there is
Speaker 1: some people who I think, and it's just me, there
Speaker 1: are some athletes who that's the only way they can
Speaker 1: operate is by comparison, right, that that compare And I think, uh,
Speaker 1: hear and hearing everything you're saying is you basically walked
Speaker 1: in there knowing you were inexperience, and you were okay
Speaker 1: with being inexperienced, right, And so you know, where where
Speaker 1: did the comfortability come from for you with being okay
Speaker 1: with being inexperience? Because not everybody, not everybody likes being
Speaker 1: in experience, Not everybody is comfortable being a young bucker,
Speaker 1: being a person who doesn't know everything. It had its
Speaker 1: uh moments where just like it felt it felt pretty bad,
Speaker 1: like I had no idea what I was getting myself into,
Speaker 1: and I had no idea how to operate and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. But once I started getting more comfortable, I
Speaker 1: have to give credit to like my coaches that were there,
Speaker 1: like coach Norman Smiley um at the time when he
Speaker 1: was there building Uh, Billy Gunn sorry, um, Coach Billy
Speaker 1: Gunn when he was there, he was the one that
Speaker 1: that was like digging in trying to like bring me
Speaker 1: out of my comfort zone and like just to express
Speaker 1: myself and like, look, it's okay that you're inexperience, but
Speaker 1: you like, there's a lot of people that come in
Speaker 1: that are inexperienced. Heck, there's a lot of people that
Speaker 1: come in here that are experienced and they're still inexperienced
Speaker 1: because they don't know what they're doing in a way,
Speaker 1: So it's like, okay, just to be inexperienced. As long
Speaker 1: as you're learning and you're getting better and you're starting
Speaker 1: to have fun, that's all that matters. And once him, Norman,
Speaker 1: Robbie Brookside, and Terry Taylor all sat me down and
Speaker 1: told me that that's when I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: you never traveled outside of Ohio and then obviously going
Speaker 1: to college, you travel to Illinois. Yeah, so other than that,
Speaker 1: what places and where have you been? And you never
Speaker 1: thought a million years that you would you would be
Speaker 1: sleeping in the hotel. I'm I was, you know, I
Speaker 1: and I and I asked that is there are sometimes
Speaker 1: when I I can try I travel, I will sometimes
Speaker 1: look out my hotel room and it's not always a
Speaker 1: you know, if you're in a hotel enough, you know,
Speaker 1: and not every hotel room has a great view summertimes,
Speaker 1: like if you go to New York, you could be
Speaker 1: in a five star hotel and in New York, we're
Speaker 1: looking at a brick window right, looking outside your window
Speaker 1: and a brick wall, right, it just happens to be.
Speaker 1: That's just how that that concrete jungle. So you know,
Speaker 1: when you sit back and look at atty one years old, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know where you where you started, how you traveled,
Speaker 1: very limited knowledge. But yet today you've been able to
Speaker 1: travel beyond where even your imagination can take you. Right,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I have to say the UK. Never
Speaker 1: did I ever think I'll be in the U K?
Speaker 1: And what you what'd you experience? What do you experience
Speaker 1: in the UK? That was that that made you glow
Speaker 1: and light up the way you just did? Um? It
Speaker 1: was just like the whole atmosphere. So like that was
Speaker 1: when I got introduced to soccer because I never really
Speaker 1: watched soccer over here, so like going over there, we're
Speaker 1: like when we first went over there, there was like
Speaker 1: a huge soccer game happening, so like I was just
Speaker 1: like it was just like how we are with football here,
Speaker 1: just like everybody just gets together at a bar or whatever,
Speaker 1: drinking it up or whatever, just having fun watching the game,
Speaker 1: doing cheers and stuff like that, talking smack. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like that I got to experience that, which
Speaker 1: was nuts. Um being near Wimbley Stadium. We haven't gone
Speaker 1: inside of it, but we're at the hotel right next
Speaker 1: to it. I believe that's where it's like some of
Speaker 1: the NFL games are played at Wimbley and like we've
Speaker 1: had shows at like the Wimbley Hall, and like being there,
Speaker 1: like that whole like little city right there is just insane,
Speaker 1: just because like it's just nuts. The fish and chips
Speaker 1: are good, um, and and not like the people are
Speaker 1: just really nice. Took me a minute to get used
Speaker 1: to the accent, but they're just really nice over there,
Speaker 1: and it's just like I don't know, it was just
Speaker 1: it's just cofferent over here. What about where are some
Speaker 1: other places? Uh for starters, I gotta say in Miami, Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: the first time I went there, that was an experience.
Speaker 1: Uh never never be in Miami. You have some money.
Speaker 1: Uh no, Miami bro game he had some money, like
Speaker 1: me too, play together, you know what I'm saying. Making
Speaker 1: a good time. But when we first when I first
Speaker 1: moved to uh Florida, one of the weekends that we
Speaker 1: actually got off and we didn't have any shows, we
Speaker 1: uh into Miami for a weekend and just kicked it there.
Speaker 1: One of our boys, like his cousin lived there, so
Speaker 1: like we already had a place to stay and it
Speaker 1: was just like that was like a whole different atmosphere,
Speaker 1: going to the beach and stuff. I wasn't really used
Speaker 1: to that. Um from there. Vegas that was another experience
Speaker 1: on the company dime, the Company dime right there. Uh.
Speaker 1: We also l A was another one, another place I
Speaker 1: was like, oh wow, this is this is insane. And
Speaker 1: then Dallas where we had WrestleMania this past year and
Speaker 1: that was our first actual WrestleMania after COVID. So So
Speaker 1: how did how did you come up with your nickname
Speaker 1: uh beat. I was beating my roommates and a maddening
Speaker 1: uh fight night and I was just running the sticks
Speaker 1: for like two and a half. I was straight just
Speaker 1: couldn't lose. And I was just like, bro, like I'm look, man,
Speaker 1: I don't It's not like I'm trying to do this
Speaker 1: dog just like I'm I'm cursed with it. Do gonna
Speaker 1: cursed with greatness right now? It's just not letting me
Speaker 1: let y'all win like I can't. So you're not being
Speaker 1: uh unapologetic for you greatness. Yeah, I was just like
Speaker 1: and I was just joking around and so like. And
Speaker 1: that was also the cool part. Two. Like I had
Speaker 1: roommates at the time they were like also wrestling with me,
Speaker 1: and they had way way more experienced than I ever had.
Speaker 1: So like that was still when I was still kind
Speaker 1: of trying to like find myself on like the entertainment
Speaker 1: aspect of things and stuff like that. So like the
Speaker 1: way I am at home, it's complete completely different than
Speaker 1: the way I was at when we were practicing or
Speaker 1: like when we have matches and stuff like that. And
Speaker 1: they were like, bro, you should you should try this,
Speaker 1: and so I was like okay, cool, Like what like
Speaker 1: very next day I went out there and started talking
Speaker 1: about how great I was, and I just getting booed.
Speaker 1: So you sw I'm getting cheered. So that's the cool part.
Speaker 1: So you end up you end up finding yourself. You
Speaker 1: make your TV debut inve and what was that like?
Speaker 1: Like you you've gone through this, this this training program,
Speaker 1: all these things you've talked about previously in this podcast.
Speaker 1: But to walk out and what you're getting booed a jeered?
Speaker 1: But to see all those people and you're now you're
Speaker 1: in that squared circle and you see all these people
Speaker 1: whether it's you're in up boring, Like, what was what
Speaker 1: was that moment? Like I was it was a little
Speaker 1: nerve racking. It was one of my first time being
Speaker 1: on tv M. So that you got just go out
Speaker 1: there and put on a good match. You got a
Speaker 1: radio face or TV face? I got a radio face. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm asking you got radio face for TV face for telephison.
Speaker 1: I mean I got both the strengthening Honest, I like
Speaker 1: asking that because sometimes people they freeze out there like
Speaker 1: we'll do you know, they started second guessing TV fas bro.
Speaker 1: You got radio face, you partner up with montes Ford.
Speaker 1: Y'all are the Street Profits, w W Raw Tag Team Champions,
Speaker 1: w W SmackDown Champions, next Tag Team Champions, evolved Tag
Speaker 1: Team Championships. What is the what's the culmination or what
Speaker 1: was what was the coming to age story of the
Speaker 1: Street Profits? Uh? That was all Triple Age. Honestly, we're
Speaker 1: me and Tess are already boys before um. I was
Speaker 1: already there before him. He started in two thousand, fifteen sixteen.
Speaker 1: I believe I started in two thousand twelve. Uh. At
Speaker 1: that point in time, Like it was crazy because I
Speaker 1: was really young. So I've been there longer than the
Speaker 1: majority of every like pretty much everybody, but I was
Speaker 1: still younger than everybody, so I it was it was weird.
Speaker 1: It was like I was the vet, but not really
Speaker 1: at that point in time when he got there. Uh.
Speaker 1: But now, so one day we had a match like
Speaker 1: right after each other, and Triple h was like, hey,
Speaker 1: like let's see how those two work together. And sure enough,
Speaker 1: it was like, oh it worked out because we were
Speaker 1: already boys. Anyway, sometimes when you get put with somebody
Speaker 1: in the tag team, I really ain't that cool or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's just more of like an acquaintance thing. But we
Speaker 1: were really cool. We're best friends, and uh then we
Speaker 1: just took off running from then some triple edgers like, hey,
Speaker 1: make him a tag took the ball rand with it,
Speaker 1: and so who came up which one of you geniuses
Speaker 1: came up with the name Street Profits? It was a
Speaker 1: universal thing. Yeah, it was saying trips O, you lost
Speaker 1: me on that. It was like the label, damn, right,
Speaker 1: next thing, you're gonna be there. I got an album
Speaker 1: dropping to about Drake and Harlow just had a collaboration.
Speaker 1: But now we've got Street Profits drama, Like, right, do
Speaker 1: me the kind of pro I got a deal? They
Speaker 1: threw me off. I was streaming on all DSPs. I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, right. I was like, all right, man,
Speaker 1: I see you. I was. I was like, dang, I
Speaker 1: mean these brothers got a whole bunch of tag teams championships,
Speaker 1: but now they got a deal. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I missed that one right that went in the research
Speaker 1: y'all have y'all have had a lot of success. When
Speaker 1: you think about tag teams, who are some of those
Speaker 1: tag teams from back in the day. I know I've
Speaker 1: got mine, but who are yours? Steve weigh in. But
Speaker 1: who are some of those influential tag teams that you
Speaker 1: draw inspiration from. We gotta go first and foremost Harlem Heat, Sir.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a it's if it's a
Speaker 1: coastal thing, but on the West coast, like for US
Speaker 1: w W, we didn't see I didn't see the Harlem Heat.
Speaker 1: Is I saw a book book or T was later
Speaker 1: for me, right, Booker T was in that, you know,
Speaker 1: and he was like I grew up by that time.
Speaker 1: I was out of wrestling body. Yeah, see, I grew up,
Speaker 1: um man. I grew up watching when uh when when
Speaker 1: when Ricky the Dragon boats, Ricky Steamboat, when he got
Speaker 1: when they took the bowl and like they cart him
Speaker 1: off later. So I was watching back then, Bruce Barbarbiefcake,
Speaker 1: Jake the Snake, Undertaker, the first Ultimate Warrior, right, you know,
Speaker 1: So for me it was such a I was watching
Speaker 1: when I was young, young, right that you know that
Speaker 1: pay per view like pay per view for the main events,
Speaker 1: you know, or the main events were like super late
Speaker 1: at night. So uh, that's why I'm I'm a little
Speaker 1: bit like when I got older, I kind of phased
Speaker 1: out of it. My grandpa kind of hurt my feelings
Speaker 1: on it. But anyway, so as as w D w
Speaker 1: W E has risen and became more of the storylines,
Speaker 1: I was watching it when it was less of storylines
Speaker 1: more of wrestling, right you know, Hawl Coke And what
Speaker 1: are you gonna do when you see these twenty two
Speaker 1: inch pythons wrapped around you? Uh? Mr t You know
Speaker 1: all these different characters and when wrestling had a cartoon
Speaker 1: Junkyard Dog, right, Kamala, you know those are those are
Speaker 1: the guys, uh hacks All, Jim dug In with a
Speaker 1: two by four. Those are the guys that I grew
Speaker 1: up watching that. Kurt Angle was on the back end
Speaker 1: for me, Like I look at Kurt Angle and I
Speaker 1: kind of scratched my head. Not anything against him, but
Speaker 1: I just grew up where man Kurt Ay we wasn't
Speaker 1: the last back in the day, right the demolition when
Speaker 1: they was two and then they added the Big Dude
Speaker 1: and it was the three you know, Bretta Hitman Hard
Speaker 1: like all these guys that that that was the way
Speaker 1: I watched wrestling. Um you know, just in ways that
Speaker 1: was that was extremely different, Like the story lives were
Speaker 1: just not as as pertinent or in front of you.
Speaker 1: They were like the villain was Mr. Perfect right, he
Speaker 1: was perfection Lex Luger like that stuff that those are
Speaker 1: the that's the wrestling that I watched. That's a little
Speaker 1: bit different. And I believe you guys are upgrade, right.
Speaker 1: You have the you have the wrestling, but the storylines
Speaker 1: or something to follow and watch. And I think that's
Speaker 1: that is the that's the difference. That's the difference of
Speaker 1: playing catch up that that I'm playing right now. Good,
Speaker 1: do it good, it's getting down to do it good. Hey, Gerard,
Speaker 1: why did you get that T shirt? You mean, oh yes,
Speaker 1: I got it from cut to a podcast dot com
Speaker 1: where we have exclusive merchandise. Shout out to our guys
Speaker 1: at seven or four shot. But yeah, you can go on,
Speaker 1: buy you a T shirt, subscribe to us wherever you
Speaker 1: listen to podcasts like Wrestling Today Now is like how
Speaker 1: you know, like school yard fights, right, there was always
Speaker 1: a group of guys that would you know, they bumped
Speaker 1: shoulders and they're going around in the circle, right. That
Speaker 1: means they didn't want to fight, right, And then old
Speaker 1: school wrestlers like as soon as they as soon as
Speaker 1: they try to have a conversation. Man, they was getting yes,
Speaker 1: like a maging right they do an interview in the
Speaker 1: back they're chasing them in the back room, right, Um,
Speaker 1: who was the cop? I remember to do the big
Speaker 1: Big boss Man. Yes, like Big boss Man right, like
Speaker 1: stuff like that, where like he gets that billy club
Speaker 1: like get them right, I mean looking on But it's
Speaker 1: just the craziness, right that that's a that's that's that's
Speaker 1: the that's the nostalgic of wrestling that I grew up on,
Speaker 1: right seeing Ultimate Warrior run full speed from when they
Speaker 1: hit that, when the music dropped, that dude is running
Speaker 1: a hunter. His story time was bananas. So you just
Speaker 1: My other question was gonna be who had some of
Speaker 1: the best wrestling entrance music that when they as they
Speaker 1: hit the Ultimate war he was the tassels on this
Speaker 1: taking the ropes that room or the or when you
Speaker 1: used to hit Hawk Hogan, he he did hit you.
Speaker 1: He gets more fired up. That's crazy. I think I'm
Speaker 1: just thinking about it. When I played that's kind of
Speaker 1: where I got some of else theatrics from. He was
Speaker 1: saying he was Ultimate Warrior Hawk Hogan, Right, Hogan, Hey,
Speaker 1: I've grown man. Yeah, I just I just be together.
Speaker 1: It was like I remember, man, you just get hit,
Speaker 1: I'll be like, oh yeah I did. He get up
Speaker 1: boy started eating all the punches even affect. That's a pause.
Speaker 1: But we we went way off an attention who we
Speaker 1: went well with a tangent? Who were some of those
Speaker 1: influences for you? Like you started right who you said
Speaker 1: hold him heat? Who else was it for you? Harlem
Speaker 1: heat Um, Hardy Boys, mud least m edging Christian man,
Speaker 1: skinny dude, don't little skin do with that? Hey? Yeah?
Speaker 1: They was flipping in with the X on the the
Speaker 1: Hardies had something that's a yeah. Yeah, they had to
Speaker 1: pass on their shins and all that stuff. Man. It
Speaker 1: was it was coming out there knocking the snot out
Speaker 1: of people. Who was that with d x um the
Speaker 1: Badass Billy Gunn and Jesse James. They had they had
Speaker 1: they had one Um got you are Staner Brothers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: man Kind they did have a run and and uh
Speaker 1: and and the rock Yeah man Kind Yeah, man kind
Speaker 1: of give you some nightmares, bro. Yeah he was. That
Speaker 1: was scary storyline right there. And they used to get
Speaker 1: scared of man con lot of people Undertaker he eyes
Speaker 1: rolled back his head right. Want to take it? Was
Speaker 1: to take it. He was so agile, all right, last one,
Speaker 1: last one, no stygia for all of us. Andrea Giant. Sorry,
Speaker 1: what you're just thinking of Andrea Giant? Okay that little Yeah,
Speaker 1: you just got excited talking about a giant though. Andrea
Speaker 1: Giant like he was like sad squash. He could be
Speaker 1: and big show, big show, big show, a big yeah.
Speaker 1: Um best finishing moves toom Stone three d okay, uh
Speaker 1: rock Bottom, I gotta put the people's elbow up there,
Speaker 1: the people Stone coast. I was wondering where that was gonna. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if we wouldn't went through that top five and Stone start,
Speaker 1: it wasn't on there. Sharp shooter, that's not top five.
Speaker 1: I like the sharp shooter. I don't like the sharp shoot.
Speaker 1: He's a freak out with that sharp shoot. You know what,
Speaker 1: let's take Let's take people's elbow out. Put the sharp
Speaker 1: shooter in the Okay, okay, look around what the ultimate
Speaker 1: Warriors over? He would lift them up. Yeah, he kind
Speaker 1: of ducked a little power slam kind of thing to
Speaker 1: give you that night night. Right after that, he come
Speaker 1: off the top rop with the elbow. Yeah. Look macho man.
Speaker 1: I like that. I like Brutus the barb beefcake. He's
Speaker 1: remember what the sleeperhole and cut your hair? Ye remember
Speaker 1: that now? Yeah? Out right now it's a vibe. You
Speaker 1: said that you sat in the barber chair when you're
Speaker 1: getting your haircut. Why you all right, man, say it's
Speaker 1: too comfortable. Yeah, that's just growing up as a kid,
Speaker 1: you know, doing that. And then you go out there,
Speaker 1: and then you go out there now and those when
Speaker 1: those videos go when they have backyard brawls, remember they
Speaker 1: somebody trying to get slammed, you have, they would make
Speaker 1: rings in the backyards. Man. People was getting wopped in
Speaker 1: the backyards, getting hurt, breaking arms and stuff that, right,
Speaker 1: dit on, I remember we had somebody who got an
Speaker 1: old mattress, right, but the mattress already beat up, so
Speaker 1: you'd like, I think we had to do Johnny. Johnny
Speaker 1: was an idiot and he was it. He put it
Speaker 1: on the side where the springs are already coming through
Speaker 1: the mattress and y'all already had a hell and sale matchup.
Speaker 1: Johnny wasn't the sharpest tool in the shade, But so
Speaker 1: what do you think the next ten years looked like
Speaker 1: for you next ten years, man, next ten years, I'll
Speaker 1: be forty one. Uh. How you thinking? How you with
Speaker 1: a lot more tag titles? Huh? I said you like
Speaker 1: you kind of look he's like forty one. I mean i'
Speaker 1: still be a pretty pretty ayegile forty one year old.
Speaker 1: You know, I'll still be able to move, I think.
Speaker 1: Uh no, I mean hopefully, uh ten years, more championships,
Speaker 1: more money in the bank. I was just thinking about it, like,
Speaker 1: you know, there's always you hear about basketball players. Uh,
Speaker 1: you're about the beast situations and good situations, right football baseball?
Speaker 1: You know, obviously baseball has no situation. Them dudes get paid.
Speaker 1: They're still getting paid. What was that, Bobby Bobby Anila.
Speaker 1: I think that's just about to run out next year. Um.
Speaker 1: Ken Griffy still the six highest paid player on the
Speaker 1: Reds and this dude they've spun up Bast's one of
Speaker 1: my favorite players. It's gotta make you feel real good
Speaker 1: about your Reds when you look at when you just
Speaker 1: look at that queen. Look you your kids gonna be
Speaker 1: graduated high school by the time they stopped paying Ken Griffy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my dang man, what do you imagine based off what
Speaker 1: your experience you right now? What do you what do
Speaker 1: you what do you imagine or thinking about your future
Speaker 1: economical league based on some of the statistics of other
Speaker 1: leagues of professional money. Yeah, yeah, I like my chances. Um,
Speaker 1: like as long as like, as long as I'm good
Speaker 1: with everything money wise and smart with it, I'm okay.
Speaker 1: Like there's situations like I never thought I would be in.
Speaker 1: This is definitely one of them where I'm like even
Speaker 1: thinking about that in the long run. But what's that though?
Speaker 1: What do what do you mean? That was like thinking
Speaker 1: about like being that financially set in a way like
Speaker 1: in my mind, Like it's something you're talking about the
Speaker 1: things that like catch me off guards Sometimes I've like
Speaker 1: sit back and be like, oh snap, I'm like really
Speaker 1: in a I'm a pretty good position. Like I just
Speaker 1: bought my house two years ago, so like it's just like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, I just bought it. Aux, Like man, I
Speaker 1: holy crap, Like, so do you have a you have
Speaker 1: a financial guy that's helping you with it? Yeah, okay, Cool,
Speaker 1: it's been really good. Um, it's been very good. He's
Speaker 1: helped me out a lot. Uh. It's just like especially um,
Speaker 1: he's also a family friend, so like that helps out.
Speaker 1: He's already like we already knew him, so he's he's
Speaker 1: helped me out a lot. I mean, I haven't really
Speaker 1: spent anything spent on anything that was like crazy or
Speaker 1: outrageous or nothing. So like the most I've ever spent
Speaker 1: was for this house. That was it, and it's just
Speaker 1: like alright cool, like obviously like I got a PlayStation
Speaker 1: or all that, but other than that, it has just
Speaker 1: been like being smart with my money, saving it and
Speaker 1: just you know what I'm saying, just living a simple
Speaker 1: life as simple as I can live it. That's good. Well, man,
Speaker 1: We appreciate your time. Many looking forward to watching. Thank
Speaker 1: you for having me man, this was awesome. Yeah, looking
Speaker 1: forward to keep watching Cursed the Curse of Greatness. Appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I'm not to tell everybody that I wrestled now to
Speaker 1: ice up son, I like that. I like that. You
Speaker 1: are a unique person, you are well worth it, you
Speaker 1: are competent, and most of all, your lovable. I'm Steve
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