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Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirk Show starts now.

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Speaker 2: Charlie's love for debate will always be the DNA of

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Speaker 2: Turning Point USA. We believe in debate because we believe

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Speaker 2: in truth.

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Speaker 3: Everyone and his mother has an opinion. It is not

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Speaker 3: hard to have an opinion. It is not hard to

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Speaker 3: pick fights, to accuse, to gossip, to define, and to revile.

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Speaker 3: In our age, it can be very lucrative. What's more,

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Speaker 3: it can be entertaining. What is harder is to build,

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Speaker 3: to refine, to assuage, to unite, and to advance.

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Speaker 1: Charlie did the harder thing.

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Speaker 2: My husband didn't build this movement so people could feel comfortable.

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Speaker 2: He built this movement so people could feel brave and

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Speaker 2: to be brave with action.

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Speaker 4: I really believe that the best way to judge a

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Speaker 4: goodness of a man is to see the goodness of

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Speaker 4: his wife and his children.

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Speaker 5: And on that measure, Charlie was unsurpassed.

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Speaker 6: Erica, who I just saw backstage and whom I love

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Speaker 6: and who I can tell you was totally committed to

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Speaker 6: continuing the core principle of Charlie's public life, which is

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Speaker 6: the right of every person to express what he believes.

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Speaker 5: That is rooted in Christian faith.

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Speaker 6: We believe people should be able to say what they

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Speaker 6: think because they have souls.

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Speaker 7: I've performed for huge crowds all around the world, and

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Speaker 7: no matter how many songs I do on that stage,

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Speaker 7: it didn't mean as much as this, because this is

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Speaker 7: a direct link for younger people. This is a direct

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Speaker 7: link between young people and God.

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Speaker 4: I don't know about you, but when I voted November fifth,

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, I voted for closed borders. I voted

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Speaker 4: for affordable groceries. I voted for lower gas prices.

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Speaker 1: I voted for.

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Speaker 5: No more censorship.

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Speaker 4: I voted for no more men in women's sports.

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Speaker 8: You got to remember, a strong border means strong national security.

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Speaker 9: We have to know who's coming in, who's going out,

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Speaker 9: all that thing.

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Speaker 10: We'll let me end with us.

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Speaker 9: My time is up. Will let me end with us.

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Speaker 8: To the men and women of Ice, to the men

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Speaker 8: and women of the United States, Bordertol, I'd love each

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Speaker 8: and every one of you. I'll have your until the

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Speaker 8: day I die.

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Speaker 4: Charlie Kirker wasn't Nick Foentees, not even close. Charlie was

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Speaker 4: about having conversations, addressing reality, opening up dialogue on college campuses.

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Speaker 4: He made a point of resisting the more extreme elements

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Speaker 4: on the right.

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Speaker 1: He called people out.

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Speaker 4: When they got out of line, the gropers, the people

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Speaker 4: who crossed into actual anti semitism.

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Speaker 6: You cannot tell another human being to shut up, even

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Speaker 6: shut up racist, because you don't own him. He is

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Speaker 6: an independent, autonomous person, created by God as an individual. Okay,

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Speaker 6: So that's where that belief comes from. That's where free

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Speaker 6: speech comes from. And there's no accident. This is the

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Speaker 6: only country in the world that protects it.

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Speaker 2: Charlie wasn't just a speaker. He wasn't just a political thinker.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't just a thought leader.

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Speaker 11: Again.

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Speaker 2: He was a bridge, He was a pathway. He was

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Speaker 2: a connection point to generation. He was a pathway in

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Speaker 2: connection point communication to enter politics. And he also looked

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Speaker 2: at a generation that has been mocked, that has been dismissed,

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Speaker 2: that has been discouraged, and told them you matter, your

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Speaker 2: ideas matter, your decisions matter.

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Speaker 12: I didn't bring a list of conservatives to denounce or.

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Speaker 12: Really care if some people out there, I'm sure we'll

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Speaker 12: have the fake news media denounced me after this speech.

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Speaker 12: But let me just say The best way to honor

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Speaker 12: Charlie is.

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Speaker 1: That none of us here should be.

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Speaker 12: Doing something after Charlie's death that he himself refused to

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Speaker 12: do in life.

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Speaker 1: He invited all of us here.

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Speaker 14: Every day there's a battle for your mind, raging information

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Speaker 14: coming from every angle, but the will to the sieve

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Speaker 5: You found the place for.

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Speaker 14: Truth, the voice a generation that still has the will

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Speaker 14: to believe in the greatest country in the history of

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Speaker 14: the world.

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Speaker 1: This is the Charlie Kirk Show. Fuck a lot, here

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Speaker 1: we go on.

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Speaker 10: All right, Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's

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Speaker 10: the last show before Christmas. I'm your host for today,

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Speaker 10: Andrew Colvett, joined by Blake Knapf, who's in the studio.

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Speaker 5: What are you wearing, Andrew?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm wearing the dude buds.

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Speaker 10: Yes, yes, Jack, you got awater on. Blake, you do

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Speaker 10: not have a sweater on because I forgot to tell

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Speaker 10: you that I was wearing my ugly Christmas sweater today.

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Speaker 5: I don't think I even own a sweater. I live

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Speaker 5: in Phoenix.

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Speaker 15: Blake, you literally.

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Speaker 16: Didn't get the Christmas water memo. I don't understand what's

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Speaker 16: going on here.

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Speaker 1: No, No, this is.

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Speaker 10: Gonna pick it at a larger scab about Andrew's terrible communication.

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Speaker 1: Uh, internally.

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Speaker 10: So it was just it was just a vibe that

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Speaker 10: I felt this morning. You know, my kids were all

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Speaker 10: like still in their jammies, their Christmas jammies as they go.

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Speaker 15: Are you wearing pajamas bottoms right now? Don't tell us?

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Speaker 10: No, No, I'm wearing I'm wearing jeans. I'm wearing jeans. Thankfully,

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Speaker 10: Although Charlie two lies in the truth. Charlie used to

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Speaker 10: Blake can attest. Charlie used to always come into the

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Speaker 10: studio with the He would have, you know, business on

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Speaker 10: the top and then shorts on the bottom.

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Speaker 10: That and the long socks because they were good for circulation, for.

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Speaker 15: Top people, for the circulation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the vascular vascular socks. That's right.

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Speaker 5: I wore those socks on because he advertises so much.

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Speaker 5: I wore them. I think when I had to fly

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Speaker 5: I wore them, and I think I was about nine

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Speaker 5: hours in and I just said, I I can't take

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Speaker 5: this anymore, and I rolled them down.

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Speaker 1: That's good for airplanes, though, no, it is. It's good

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Speaker 10: So we've got a jam packed show. We figured let's

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Speaker 10: just throw the kitchen sink at it today and we're

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Speaker 10: gonna have a lot of guests. So we've starting off

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Speaker 10: with Jack Basoba Coast of Human Events Day. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: Then we're gonna have Sean Davis.

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Speaker 10: He's gonna talk about the family business that was on

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Speaker 10: that came out this morning. And then we're gonna finish

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Speaker 10: with Bata Ungar Sargon. She's now a News Nation anchor,

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Speaker 10: and I'm going to try and convince her that Jade

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Speaker 10: we're going to talk through that, so Jack, without further ado,

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Speaker 10: just thirty thousand foot view for us, what's going on

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Speaker 16: some of us like myself, have been calling for since

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Speaker 16: And what we've got now are actual files coming out.

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Speaker 15: Now, what we have today, this is there.

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Speaker 16: So there were files released during Amfest because of course

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Speaker 16: getting released separately. And then now we've got more Epstein

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Speaker 15: Also that people are saying.

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Speaker 16: There have been back and forth of the DJ They said,

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Speaker 16: it's actually disgusting and there's a lot of photos.

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Speaker 15: It just has to be said truthfully.

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Speaker 16: There are a lot of photos of him with Bill Clinton,

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Speaker 16: Bill Clinton in a hot tub, him and Bill Clinton

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Speaker 16: So again, what you're not finding are images of Donald

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Speaker 16: but Trump was also flying on the plane with his family,

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Speaker 16: not a situation where we're hopefully anything on tour.

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Speaker 1: Those were mostly in the nineties, right Jack, So.

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Speaker 16: Oh yeah, yeah, this is way way, way, like we're

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Speaker 16: the rest of the story, we've been over it. So

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Speaker 16: many times where he was evicted from mar A Lago

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Speaker 16: you to put this guy away?

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Speaker 15: Because he's a bad guy.

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Speaker 16: And what we're seeing again over and over are pictures

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Speaker 16: Prince or I should say, former Prince Andrew. A fake

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Speaker 16: that's really interesting.

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Speaker 15: I mean, this is happening all live.

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Speaker 17: I know there are a lot of people that are

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Speaker 17: met Jeffrey Epstein years ago, many years ago, and they're

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Speaker 1: So just turn that around.

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Speaker 10: Got to be politically, but I think he actually seems

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Speaker 15: Good luck.

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Speaker 16: We shared one thing, our love and caring for young

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Speaker 10: More with Jack Pisova Human Events Daily on the other

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Speaker 10: side of this break, more revelations from the Epstein document drop.

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Speaker 10: All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Got

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Speaker 10: Jack Pisobic Blake nef. We're talking Epstein files. But first

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Speaker 10: Why reef I can do that. And by the way,

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Speaker 10: On the other side of his break, Jack Besobic is

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Speaker 10: back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Blake Neff is threatening

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Speaker 1: Let's go one ninety nine.

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Speaker 10: This is Joe Scarborough on his reaction to the Epstein files.

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Speaker 19: One of the great mysteries to me and a lot

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Speaker 9: What did he do?

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Speaker 19: Why if he's not in these files, which all the

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Speaker 1: Is he trying to protect somebody?

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Speaker 5: So?

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Speaker 16: We have the government. This whole point. We have the

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Speaker 16: that can be created when you're ongoing dissitization.

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Speaker 10: But I don't think it was in the file. It

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Speaker 10: was very interesting. Yeah, I guess it was a recreation.

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Speaker 22: We appreciate you being here with US. President Trump out

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Speaker 22: with plans for a new class of US battleships, which

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Speaker 22: They were netted during the ongoing US blockade in that region.

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Speaker 22: We're also hearing that the administration is pursued a third

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Speaker 22: The move is a way for the Trump administration to

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Speaker 22: and President Trump continuing the push to make Greenland part

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Speaker 22: of the United States. The latest step involved the President

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Speaker 22: appointing Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry a special envoy to Greenland.

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Speaker 22: Denmark's Prime minister is criticizing the move to convert the island, saying, quote,

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Speaker 22: you cannot annex another country, not even with an argument

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Speaker 22: about international security. That's a quick check of your headlines.

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Speaker 22: We appreciate you being here with us. Now let's get

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Speaker 22: you back to the Charlie Kirkshow.

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Speaker 10: All right, welcome back the Charlie kirk Show. I'm Andrew Colvett.

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Speaker 10: We are about to welcome Sean Davis from the Federalists,

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Speaker 10: the great Sean Davis. But before I do that, we're

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Speaker 10: gonna tell you about our friends over at Hillsdale College, history, economics,

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Speaker 10: the great works of literature. Did you study these things

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Speaker 10: in school? Probably not, because our education system is in

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Speaker 10: the tank. It's been captured by the Wokies and the

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Speaker 10: Marxists and the civilizational Arsonists. But even if you did

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Speaker 10: have a good education, it's probably time for an enjoyable

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Speaker 10: refresher course on some of the great works of literature.

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Speaker 10: Hillsdale College is offering more than forty free online courses.

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Speaker 10: Charlie took over thirty of them, including their newest course,

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Speaker 10: Ontotalitarian Novels. It's a free eight lecture course and in

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Speaker 10: it you will learn from the great Larry Arn, Doctor

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Speaker 10: Larry Arn, as he goes in depth on four novels

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Speaker 10: nineteen eighty four, Brave New World, Darkness at Noon, in

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Speaker 10: that Hideous Strength. Even though these novels were written in

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Speaker 10: the nineteen thirties and forties, they are highly relevant today

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Speaker 10: as they show what a tyrannical government can do to

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Speaker 10: human nature. More importantly, they show that faith, family, friends,

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Speaker 10: and this country are still worth fighting for. So maybe

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Speaker 10: you read them a long time ago, maybe you've never

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Speaker 10: read them. Maybe you've just heard about them and you

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Speaker 10: kind of think they're intimidating.

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Speaker 1: They don't have to be. Hillsdale can help make the

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Speaker 1: most of them.

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Speaker 10: R l I E for Hillsdale dot com. All right,

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Speaker 10: without further ado, we're gonna talk some family business with

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Speaker 10: Sean Davis. He is the right guy to do it,

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Speaker 10: because you know, there's a lot of Johnny come latelies,

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Speaker 10: there's a lot of there's a lot of new blood

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Speaker 10: in the movement, and that's a good thing. But sometimes

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Speaker 10: they don't know how the They don't know how the

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Speaker 10: sausage is made. They don't know how the coalition came

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Speaker 10: together in the first point in the first part. So

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Speaker 10: Sean Davis, uh from the Federalists, one of the good

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Speaker 10: guys out there.

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Speaker 1: Man, does he know how to tweak the left? Seawan,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the show. Thank you for having me. Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, well, I tried to get you to go to Amvest,

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Speaker 10: but you were adamant that you had other plans. It's

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Speaker 10: not for me to divulge what you were doing instead

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Speaker 10: of coming to Amfest, but I wanted to get you.

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Speaker 10: I mean, if you want to go there, it's fine

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Speaker 10: with It's fine with me. But something to do with Bambi,

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Speaker 10: I don't know. But if if you were on the

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Speaker 10: outside looking in an Amfest. You got to see all

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Speaker 10: the reactions to it, the reactions of the speeches, to

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Speaker 10: the disagreements, all of these things.

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Speaker 15: I want.

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Speaker 1: I wanted your help to make sense of it. Sean,

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Speaker 1: What what do you make of the reactions with the

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Speaker 1: good and the bad.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, I was up in a tree stand hunting not Bamby,

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Speaker 23: but Bambi's dad last week, which was awesome.

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Speaker 5: Got him.

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Speaker 10: Good for you, I saw, I saw the fruits of

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Speaker 10: your labor, and I'm impressed.

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Speaker 1: I'm impressed They're going.

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Speaker 23: To be delicious. I got to tell you what I've

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Speaker 23: always loved about Amfest. I love the energy. I love

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Speaker 23: the number of people you can get in there. Just

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Speaker 23: like the logistical feat of pulling something like that off

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Speaker 23: loan in a year like this really blows my mind.

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Speaker 23: But the thing that I have always loved about it,

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Speaker 23: about Charlie in particular and kind of the whole TPUSA vibe,

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Speaker 23: is how ecumenical it is. He will have or had

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Speaker 23: people all the time where I was like, Yeah, I

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Speaker 23: don't really like that guy, and then there'd be people.

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Speaker 1: Who would be like, Oh, yeah, that guy's awesome.

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Speaker 23: And I think that's kind of what makes the movement

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Speaker 23: great is that we don't have to always agree on

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Speaker 23: everything all the time for the same reasons, and so

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Speaker 23: I like having the people up there who can disagree,

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Speaker 23: who can do it respectfully, because the whole point here

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Speaker 23: is to build a coalition that can win elections and

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Speaker 23: then do what needs to be done to save our country.

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Speaker 23: So that's what I loved about AMPS this year, in particular,

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Speaker 23: after everything that's happened, is it would have been easy

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Speaker 23: to just retreat in on yourself and become very kind

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Speaker 23: of self referential and self.

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Speaker 1: Focused, and instead the focus state.

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Speaker 23: On the country and the movement and everyone who's within it,

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Speaker 23: even the people I don't agree with all the time.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, well said I mean, and Blake, I want to

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Speaker 10: bring you in for this as well. I mean, there

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Speaker 10: just seems to be though this there's a rising tide

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Speaker 10: of voices that are calling for denouncing certain voice to

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Speaker 10: other people that they want to see the disavow very publicly.

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Speaker 1: They want to see, Uh.

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Speaker 10: You know, it just seems like we hadn't been in

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Speaker 10: that that posture, you hadn't heard as much of that tone,

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Speaker 10: and all of a sudden, there's there's a lot of

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Speaker 10: voices saying we got to disavow this, we gotta say this,

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Speaker 10: we gotta, we gotta block this. And I think a

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Speaker 10: lot of it is a proxy war with JD ahead

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Speaker 10: of twenty twenty eight. But I'll leave it to you, guys. Blake,

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Speaker 10: you first, what do you make of this this? I mean,

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Speaker 10: because you you have a you have a little bit

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Speaker 10: of sympathy I think for that as well. But you're

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Speaker 10: you're you're much more reserve, reserved and restrained.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think I think you want to you have

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Speaker 5: to divorce. I think demands that you disavow, that you

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Speaker 5: exclude someone aggressively. I we know how Charlie had a

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Speaker 5: lot of resistance to that, understandably, so he hated what

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Speaker 5: he called moral blackmail. That was the line he used.

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Speaker 5: But I don't think we saw too much of that.

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Speaker 5: I think we saw a lot of people trying to

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Speaker 5: characterize it that way. But I think what we saw

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Speaker 5: was you saw an aggressive posture about how what we

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Speaker 5: should be talking about, what we should care about most,

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Speaker 5: what is good or bad behavior.

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Speaker 12: I think.

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Speaker 5: Let's just stay the elephant in the room. A lot

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Speaker 5: of people are reacting specifically to what Ben Shapiro said

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Speaker 5: immediately after Erica spoke, and I don't think Ben was

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Speaker 5: saying we need to aggressively cancel people. I think he

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Speaker 5: was saying he was disappointed in how a lot of

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Speaker 5: people had handled certain topics. And I think in response

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Speaker 5: to that, many people said, oh, he's trying to cancel us.

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Speaker 5: I think Ben was going about it, and in the

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Speaker 5: way Ben does. Ben is a very blunt guy. He's

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Speaker 5: going to say exactly what he means and exactly what

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Speaker 5: he's angry about. And I think that's going to some

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Speaker 5: people are going to really like that. Some people are

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Speaker 5: going to find it really irritating, and that's just that's

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Speaker 5: part of his brand, that's been his brand for a decade.

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Speaker 5: But I think on the ground among attendees, we saw

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Speaker 5: a lot of people who, frankly, they enjoyed what Ben

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Speaker 5: said and what Megan said, what Tucker said, And I

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Speaker 5: think that's really how a lot of the bass feels.

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Speaker 5: I think the people who are getting angry enough to

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Speaker 5: boot others out are kind of a pretty small slice

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Speaker 5: of the coalition overall.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're loud online though, right, Sean.

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Speaker 10: I mean that's why I wanted to get your perspective

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Speaker 10: in because to Blake's point, there was there was people

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Speaker 10: in the audience that like, what are we fighting about?

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Speaker 21: That?

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Speaker 1: People had no idea like that.

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Speaker 10: There was that there was like a you know, a

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Speaker 10: kind of a family business fight happening, right, And then

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Speaker 10: you had people that were like, we actually did the

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Speaker 10: show hands in our members podcasts room, and we said

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Speaker 10: who likes Ben's approach? And about half the hands went up?

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Speaker 10: And then we're like, who likes Tucker's approach? About half

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Speaker 10: the hands went up. So it was like it was

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Speaker 10: a very mixed crowd, a very mixed reception to that.

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Speaker 10: And to Blake's point, I didn't hear Ben saying we

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Speaker 10: need to cancel people. Ben was just saying, you know, here,

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Speaker 10: here are my lines, here are.

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Speaker 1: My lines in the sand. You know, take him or

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Speaker 1: leave him.

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Speaker 10: And you know, he wasn't calling us to cancel people either.

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Speaker 10: He was just sort of festivus for the rest of us.

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Speaker 10: He was airing his grievances in a public place.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, Charlie would appreciate you. Sure, Yeah, we don't.

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Speaker 1: We don't.

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Speaker 10: We don't tell anybody what to say actually at these things,

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Speaker 10: so you from the outside, but there is this loud

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Speaker 10: contingent on x and other forums that are saying it's

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Speaker 10: time to sort of excommunicate this or that or this

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Speaker 10: person or that person.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, And I mean that's to be expected online. This

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Speaker 23: is politics, and politics is all about getting your way

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Speaker 23: so that someone else who you disagree with can't get

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Speaker 23: their way. So like that's it's just kind of part

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Speaker 23: and part of how politics works. Again, what I have

677
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Speaker 23: always liked is the ecumenicalism of TPOSA and the movement

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Speaker 23: in general. And like my personal philosophy on this is,

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Speaker 23: if you're within the movement, define it as loosely as

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Speaker 23: you like. If you're putting points on the board, if

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Speaker 23: you are bringing people to the table and you're moving

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Speaker 23: the ball where we need to go, I'm good with you,

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Speaker 23: even if I might disagree with you on a whole

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Speaker 23: bunch of stuff. And that goes for Tucker and Megan

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Speaker 23: and you and Ben Shapiro and Nicki Minaj or anyone else.

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Speaker 23: If you were rowing with us and you're not actively

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Speaker 23: trying to hurt the movement and hurt the country, there's

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Speaker 23: a lot that I can tolerate of disagreement, and so

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Speaker 23: I think it's good to have that and The other

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Speaker 23: thing to recognize is we're never going to agree with

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Speaker 23: everyone all the time.

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Speaker 1: I don't agree with.

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Speaker 23: My wife on everything all the time. I don't agree

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Speaker 23: with my kids on everything all the time. I have

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Speaker 23: debates in my own head with myself on issues back

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Speaker 23: and forth. So like it's hard to get full agreement

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Speaker 23: with people you know in love in carabout a trillion percent,

698
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Speaker 23: imagine how much more difficult it is going to be

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Speaker 23: to agree with everyone all the time, people who you

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Speaker 23: don't know, with different backgrounds and different priorities. And then

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Speaker 23: you talk about kind of like the online nature, and

702
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Speaker 23: there really is such a big divide. If you live

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Speaker 23: your entire life on the internet, with the screen in

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Speaker 23: front of you, you are going to have a very

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Speaker 23: different perspective of where the country is than if you

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Speaker 23: don't do that. And it obviously, you know, Twitter or

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Speaker 23: x isn't real life, but it can be reflective of it.

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Speaker 23: So I don't want to dismiss the online debates because

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Speaker 23: they're important and they do, they do mean something, and

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Speaker 23: they represent real people. But it's really important to be

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Speaker 23: out there talking to normal people, talking to people who

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Speaker 23: are not online, who are not political obsessives, because as

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Speaker 23: much as it may pain people like us to hear

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Speaker 23: we are political obsessives. Most people are not like us.

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Speaker 23: They don't look at the world through the lens that.

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Speaker 1: We look through it.

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Speaker 23: And so it's just great to have thirty thousand people,

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Speaker 23: especially young people, who are forming their own worldview and

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Speaker 23: their own opinions and getting their perspective. And when they

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Speaker 23: are out there saying the people who were there, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 23: half of us liked it and half of us didn't.

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Speaker 23: That seems to me like you've struck a pretty good

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Speaker 23: balance on how to represent the whole of the movement.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I think that's you. You're echoing so much

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Speaker 10: of what Jad said in his speech. You know, I uh,

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Speaker 10: let's go ahead and play some sound from him one

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Speaker 10: twenty five.

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Speaker 1: All of you, each and everyone.

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Speaker 24: President Trump did not build the greatest coalition in politics

731
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Speaker 24: by running his supporters through endless self defeating purity tests.

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Speaker 24: He says, make America great again because every.

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Speaker 1: American is invited.

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Speaker 24: We don't care if you're white or black, rich or poor,

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Speaker 24: young or old.

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Speaker 10: And he keeps going on. Right, He made this point

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Speaker 10: a lot of times. And it's not that he didn't

738
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Speaker 10: put boundaries in the speech. I mean, he basically he

739
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Speaker 10: condemned anti semitism, he condemned racism, anti white racism, anti

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Speaker 10: Asian racism.

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Speaker 1: And lifted up merit merit, merit, merit. So I sort

742
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Speaker 1: of just.

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Speaker 10: Wonder if people, you know, if they if he didn't

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Speaker 10: straight up say I condemn Nick Fuentes in this speech.

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Speaker 10: I wonder if anybody would have been like that crowd

746
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Speaker 10: would have been happy, you know, he didn't have to

747
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Speaker 10: say some people's names, which he didn't condemn him by

748
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Speaker 10: name the next day, I think, right, yeah, I mean

749
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Speaker 10: because he came after his wife, right, So JD put

750
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Speaker 10: a big line in the sand on that on that front.

751
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Speaker 10: But like listen, I think I think the message was clear.

752
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Speaker 10: I think ninety percent of people hurt it. But I

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Speaker 10: think there's a loud minority online that that is just

754
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Speaker 10: not going to be happy until you know, everybody's getting like,

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Speaker 10: you know, going full Ben Shapiro and taking a howitzer

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Speaker 10: to everybody else in the movement forty seconds Sean.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, So I think it's when people are doing that,

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Speaker 23: they are pretending to be mad about mad at him

759
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Speaker 23: about one thing, when they're actually mad about another thing,

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Speaker 23: and with JD, foreign policy is the main thing. JD

761
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Speaker 23: is not an interventionist, he's not a neocon. He's very

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Speaker 23: much a realist and someone who having been involved in

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Speaker 23: America's wars personally understands that, you know, we need to

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Speaker 23: be a lot more circumspective about how we get in

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Speaker 23: And so when people go after him, it's really a

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Speaker 23: proxy battle over a foreign policy and I think a

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Speaker 23: lot of people, honestly, I wish they were just more

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Speaker 23: honest about what the real issue is rather than trying

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Speaker 23: to pretend it's something else.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, well said, I want to get into that foreign

771
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Speaker 10: policy divide in the next segment with you, Sean.

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Speaker 1: So hang right there real quick.

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Speaker 10: I want to tell you guys about our friends over

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Speaker 10: at Alan Jackson Ministries. We're honored to be partnering with

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Speaker 10: Pastor Allen and today I want to point you to

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Speaker 10: his podcast. It's called Culture and Christianity to Alan Jackson Podcast.

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Speaker 10: What I love about this podcast is it's all about

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Speaker 10: the Bible. It's all about bringing the Bible and the

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Speaker 10: truth of Scripture in to the toughest issues of the day.

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Speaker 10: Gender confusion, abortion, immigration, doge Trump in the White House,

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Speaker 10: even issues inside the church.

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Speaker 1: Nothing is off limits. They go straight for it.

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Speaker 10: And then they say what you can do to make

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Speaker 10: truth from the Bible into those hot button topics and

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Speaker 10: make a real difference to bring truth back into the

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Speaker 10: public square.

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Speaker 15: Again.

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Speaker 10: That's the Culture and Christianity Podcast, available wherever you get

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Speaker 1: That's a L. L. E. N. Jackson dot com. We'll

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Speaker 1: be right back.

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Speaker 14: And from the campus to the car, the bullhorn to

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Speaker 14: the microphone. It's the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 1: All right, we have some serious things to talk about

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Speaker 1: right now. Blake and Sean.

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Speaker 10: The question before you, before you bring back radios, what

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Speaker 10: is your favorite Christmas movie?

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Speaker 1: And is die Hard a Christmas movie? The eternal debate.

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Speaker 5: Let's Sean go first, So I for.

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Speaker 23: A nostalgia stake. I love a Christmas story. My kids

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Speaker 23: hate it.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 23: It's what I grew up watching. I will say no,

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Speaker 23: die Hard is not a Christmas movie. And the thing

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Speaker 23: that perplexes me.

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Speaker 6: To this day.

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Speaker 23: What do they do in having a work party on

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Speaker 23: Christmas Eve?

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Speaker 5: That's crazy. It was a Christmas party. It was their

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Speaker 5: Christmas party for the office. But yeah, it was way

815
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Speaker 5: too late.

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Speaker 1: It is too late.

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Speaker 5: My favorite Christmas movie, First, I'll say Diehard definitely not

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Speaker 5: a Christmas movie. It came out in the summer. It's

819
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Speaker 5: just a movie set during Christmas.

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Speaker 1: That is not the same.

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Speaker 5: And then I would say my favorite. You know, you

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Speaker 5: don't hear about it as much. I think I might

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Speaker 5: fall back on Home Alone. Home Alone is a really

824
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Speaker 5: good movie. It's got really good Christmas themes, not just

825
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Speaker 5: the funny stuff. This stuff with the man with his

826
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Speaker 5: daughter is a strange son. That stuff is really beautiful

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Speaker 5: to watch as an adult, I didn't appreciate it as

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Speaker 5: much as a kid. I really love that stuff. I

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Speaker 5: should watch it again. This is Christmas.

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Speaker 10: Oh okay, Well, I'm going to tell the radio audience

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Speaker 10: what I'm gonna be watching for the next two days

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Speaker 10: when we get right back. Hang right there, all right,

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Speaker 10: welcome back. Love the Christmas tunes. I have the dude

834
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Speaker 10: abides Christmas sweater. Yes, that is the dude from Big Lebowski.

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Speaker 10: You can judge me all you want, but the dude

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Speaker 10: abides I. So we were just talking about Christmas movies.

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Speaker 10: So for Radio, sorry to catch you up here, but

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Speaker 10: we're gonna have to. Yes, Diehard is a Christmas movie. Yes,

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Speaker 10: it was released in the summer, but it was a

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Speaker 10: set on Christmas Eve. Man, It's like it's perfectly situated

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Speaker 10: lives eternally. This is why every Christmas it's on the

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Speaker 10: Christmas Watch.

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Speaker 5: It's even this is like a gen x irony thing,

844
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Speaker 5: like it's funny to go haha. It's set during Christmas.

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Speaker 5: It's technically a Christmas movie, but it's just it is

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Speaker 5: a movie set during Christmas. It doesn't have any Christmas

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Speaker 5: themes about family or the birth of price.

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Speaker 10: He's reuniting with his wife, I mean yeah, but only

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Speaker 10: in an action movie way.

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Speaker 5: Like the lesson of Diehard is then like you can

851
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Speaker 5: you can like get back with your wife by killing

852
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Speaker 5: a bunch of terrorists. Not It's not like, as everyone knows,

853
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Speaker 5: you know, getting over your hang ups or something.

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Speaker 10: You know, it's oh my god, well listen, I gotta

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Speaker 10: take your studio agrees with me, and yeah, Posto's chiming

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Speaker 10: into he says, The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe

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Speaker 10: is a Christmas movie.

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Speaker 23: I gotta take Christmas on the irony thing that that's

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Speaker 23: a millennial affectation. Gen X doesn't do faux irony. That's

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Speaker 23: very much a millennial thing.

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Speaker 1: Epic.

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Speaker 5: How dare you right here?

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Speaker 10: So so, but my favorite Christmas movie is absolutely one.

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Speaker 10: It's a wonderful life and I love I love like

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Speaker 10: the nineteen eighty what is the nineteen eighty three Christmas

866
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Speaker 10: Carol or something? I forget what I forget? I just

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Speaker 10: I know we have it on the the we bought it,

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Speaker 10: so we watch it. I forget which one it is,

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Speaker 10: but it was like the nineteen eighties one. And my

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Speaker 10: daughter actually loves it and she's seven, and uh, it's

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Speaker 10: so I like watching it with her.

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Speaker 1: That's my whole plan. Everybody's like, what are you.

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Speaker 10: Doing this Christmas? I'm watching Christmas movies. As soon as

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Speaker 10: I'm done today, I'm clocking out, turning the phone off.

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Speaker 10: We're doing hot Coco and pajamas and we're watching Christmas movies.

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Speaker 1: I plan to gain at least four pounds ho.

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Speaker 5: Hot coco to insulate yourself from the cold sixty five

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Speaker 5: degree wins of Santa Barbara.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, well, listen, I'm trying to I'm trying to stay warm.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you so. Hey, uh, Sean, let me

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Speaker 1: know what you think here.

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Speaker 10: So, I think a lot of these battles just sorry,

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Speaker 10: I've got to make it serious for the last three

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Speaker 10: minutes we have here. A lot of these battles are

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Speaker 10: just a proxy about foreign policy. Why is that issue

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Speaker 10: in particular? Is it just because the military industrial complex?

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Speaker 10: Is it because there's so much money involved? It's like,

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Speaker 10: you know, people's tribalism on display. What drives the foreign

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Speaker 10: policy debate? When we have a whole country to govern?

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Speaker 10: Why is that always such a big deal?

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Speaker 25: Yeah, such a good question.

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Speaker 26: Obviously.

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Speaker 23: I think the money involved is a big thing. You know,

894
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Speaker 23: how many trillions of dollars did we spend in Iraq

895
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Speaker 23: and Afghanistan, and then when those were finally wound down,

896
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Speaker 23: it magically was transferred to like half a trillion dollars

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Speaker 23: to Ukraine. Now we're suddenly talking about maybe regime change

898
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Speaker 23: in Venezuela, which obviously would be a terrible idea. So

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Speaker 23: money is a huge thing. I also think there is

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Speaker 23: a very large I don't want to say it's totally

901
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Speaker 23: moral blackmail, but people really enjoy patting themselves on the

902
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Speaker 23: back for being compassionate and willing to spend other people's

903
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Speaker 23: lives and other people's money to do things which they

904
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Speaker 23: think are morally right to do. It's kind of the

905
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Speaker 23: COVID nannying, but taken to a foreign policy extent. Oh,

906
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Speaker 23: I'm not doing this to help myself. I'm trying to

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Speaker 23: keep you safe. I think there is a large segment

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Speaker 23: of people who really really enjoy the moralizing aspect of it,

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Speaker 23: almost like the stolen moral valor aspect of it. So

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Speaker 23: I think it's that plus the plus the money. And

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Speaker 23: then also there are people who just genuinely think we

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Speaker 23: need to be involved everywhere. Why are we big and powerful,

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Speaker 23: and why do we have this role if we're not

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Speaker 23: just going to go be the world police. I think

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Speaker 23: there are people who legitimately believe that.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, And you know, Charlie used to rail against people

917
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Speaker 10: being fixated and fascinated about foreign abstractions. It's somehow, I

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Speaker 10: think honestly, when you get into a position of power

919
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Speaker 10: or political office, it's easier to sort of think about

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Speaker 10: others far and away and ignore the problems right at

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Speaker 10: your doorstep because those are harder, and you know that

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Speaker 10: it might reflect poorly on your own self. So uh,

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Speaker 10: Blake take us on one minute left in this segment.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Uh, I think Sean's exactly right. People

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Speaker 5: do get they get fixated on these big abstract thing

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Speaker 5: I think, honestly, it's almost I think it's a lot

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Speaker 5: of people who get into politics and get into government

928
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Speaker 5: are kind of nerds and dorks and they remember being

929
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Speaker 5: kids and they liked the idea, Oh, I'm moving these

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Speaker 5: like big the I can move these armies. It'd be

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Speaker 5: so cool if I was Alexander the Great. It'd be

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Speaker 5: so cool if I was Napoleon. And then they get

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Speaker 5: into government and they kind of get to fill these fantasies.

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Speaker 5: That sounds like the wrong word, but it's that comes

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Speaker 5: to mind. Yeah, God complex or just self importance, a

936
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Speaker 5: lot of self importance, and you certainly see that in

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Speaker 5: DC all the time, and it's really annoying and it

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Speaker 5: persists forever.

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Speaker 10: This Christmas season, we remember that Jesus came to earth.

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Speaker 10: He's God and we are not him. So that's our

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Speaker 10: message to all the godlike complex folks. Thanks, Sean, We'll

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Speaker 10: see you soon. Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 22: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice News Break. I'm

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Speaker 22: Terrence Bates. We're nearing the end of the year, but

945
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Speaker 22: there's still lots of work to be done on Capitol Hill.

946
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Speaker 22: Lots of buzz around Washington about the recently released Epstein files.

947
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Speaker 22: But once Congress does finally return to work, lawmakers will

948
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Speaker 22: be up against the clock when it comes to funding

949
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Speaker 22: the government and passing appropriations bills. Real America's Voice Congressional

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Speaker 22: Correspondent Benny Ray Harmony joining us with the very latest.

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Speaker 1: Benny Ray, always good to see you.

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Speaker 22: Unfortunately, there's lots of unfinished business on Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 27: Yeah, Terrence, lots of unfinished business now. Members on both sides,

954
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Speaker 27: Democrat and Republican, before they left just last week to

955
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Speaker 27: head home for the holidays, they are very disappointed and

956
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Speaker 27: frustrated with the slowness of everything happening.

957
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Speaker 24: Now.

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Speaker 27: In November, we saw that government shutdown that lasted just

959
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Speaker 27: around forty days, and we are potentially nearing that exact

960
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Speaker 27: same thing in at.

961
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Speaker 26: The end of January.

962
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Speaker 27: The appropriations bills were supposed to be the biggest thing

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Speaker 27: on the agenda this December, but they ended up only

964
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Speaker 27: being able to pass about two or three of those,

965
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Speaker 27: the largest one being the NDAA, which funds our Defense Department,

966
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Speaker 27: which is the biggest conversation right now with those strikes

967
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Speaker 27: on Venezuela and things like that. I would say that

968
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Speaker 27: was President Trump's biggest priority before the end of the year.

969
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Speaker 27: But Terrence, there's still nine appropriations bills that need to

970
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Speaker 27: be passed in order to fund the government for next year.

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Speaker 27: And if they cannot do that once they come back

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Speaker 27: on January sixth, back in a session, we could potentially

973
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Speaker 27: be seeing another continued resolution that will hold up for

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Speaker 27: just a short term.

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Speaker 26: So not a lot happened like we expected on Capitol

976
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Speaker 26: hillth What are.

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Speaker 22: Your sources telling you is the expectation that there will

978
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Speaker 22: be another cr to keep the government funded or Democrats

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Speaker 22: going to try to play hardball again and shut the

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Speaker 22: government down.

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Speaker 27: Well, we were just at America Fest, and I spoke

982
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Speaker 27: to Mike Collins of Georgia, we spoke to Byron Donald's

983
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Speaker 27: and all of them, in their own words, believe that

984
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Speaker 27: with the slowness of how Congress operates and the back

985
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Speaker 27: and forth that we're seeing right now, it is most

986
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Speaker 27: likely from their hypotheses, that it will be another CR

987
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Speaker 27: and not these fully funded bills because Terrence two to

988
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Speaker 27: put together these bills to get them to pass the

989
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Speaker 27: House and the Senate that takes weeks in itself, and

990
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Speaker 27: so looking forward, we should expect that CR and not

991
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Speaker 27: necessarily a fully funding bill, but we can hope by

992
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Speaker 27: February or March that we will have more funding set

993
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Speaker 27: in place that will last throughout twenty twenty six and

994
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Speaker 27: get us into the next year.

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Speaker 22: Let's briefly talk about this latest release of EPPS files.

996
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Speaker 22: Of course, uh, there are some Congress members who are

997
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Speaker 22: pushing for contempt charges against Pam Bondi, saying that she

998
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Speaker 22: didn't fully follow the law, and they're concerned about how

999
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Speaker 22: quickly and how much of the files have been released.

1000
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Speaker 22: What's the buzz that you're hearing from your sources relative

1001
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Speaker 22: to this latest release and what lawmakers ultimately.

1002
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Speaker 27: Want, you know, It's it's a that's a really good question,

1003
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Speaker 27: because I'm hearing from Democrats and Republicans.

1004
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Speaker 26: Everyone is very unhappy with this.

1005
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Speaker 27: Now, it's no surprise that the Democrats are unhappy with

1006
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Speaker 27: with Pambonni's handling of the situation. They're unhappy with all

1007
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Speaker 27: of the Admin's handling of everything. But Republicans, you know,

1008
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Speaker 27: I think we would we expected a lot more evidence

1009
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Speaker 27: when it came to things, and it seems that there's

1010
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Speaker 27: a lot of redactions and the whole idea of this

1011
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Speaker 27: Epstein Act. We reported on this late until the night

1012
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Speaker 27: of that of that, you know, the voting of that

1013
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Speaker 27: bill was no redactions besides for the victims, no protecting

1014
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Speaker 27: of people, but plain and sim But we want the information,

1015
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Speaker 27: we want the pictures, and we want to see the

1016
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Speaker 27: people involved in this, and simply we are not getting that.

1017
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Speaker 27: And members, I think we can expect also some more

1018
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Speaker 27: conversation as to that we're seeing a lot of pictures

1019
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Speaker 27: of Bill Clinton and a lot of stuff that people

1020
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Speaker 27: already knew about. But show us the stuff that hasn't

1021
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Speaker 27: been shown. And I think that's where a lot of

1022
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 27: Republicans and Democrats are a little frustrated as to why

1023
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 27: why aren't you showing this?

1024
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Speaker 26: Is there something that's being hit on either side?

1025
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Speaker 22: Benny Ray Harmony twenty seconds. What's your prediction will there

1026
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 22: actually be some action taken against DOJ officials or is

1027
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 22: it just tough talk.

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Speaker 26: I think it's just tough talk, Terrence.

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00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 27: After you know, being on the hill with you know,

1030
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Speaker 27: around White House, Capitol Hill, there's a lot of talk,

1031
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 27: not a lot of action. But we pray that through

1032
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 27: Christmas and end of the new year we do finally

1033
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 27: get some action for the American people.

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Speaker 22: Benny, that last question of my gift to you was

1035
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Speaker 22: a loaded question because I think I already knew the answer,

1036
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Speaker 22: as most Americans did.

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Speaker 9: Always good to see you.

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Speaker 22: Marry Christmas to you and your family, Benny Ray, all right,

1039
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Speaker 22: that's going to do it for your headlines. We appreciate

1040
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Speaker 22: you being here with us.

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Speaker 1: All right, Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

1042
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 10: Hour two is underway, and President Trump got an early

1043
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Speaker 10: Christmas present with some amazing economic news that came out

1044
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Speaker 10: this morning. So here to unpack that with us is

1045
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Speaker 10: former Trump economic advisor and now he's with unleashed prosperity.

1046
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Speaker 10: And that's of course Stephen Moore, a longtime guest on

1047
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Speaker 10: this show and good friend of Charlie's. Stephen, welcome back

1048
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 10: to the show. On a scale of one to ten,

1049
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 10: how good was this news that broke this morning? Four

1050
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Speaker 10: point three? Growth Q three for GDP.

1051
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Speaker 11: Really good number. It's a solid number. I'd put it

1052
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Speaker 11: an eight or a nine. Trump wants five percent growth.

1053
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 11: We're not quite there yet, although we could get there. Incidentally,

1054
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Speaker 11: once you get above three and a half percent economic growth,

1055
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Speaker 11: then the economy grows faster than the debt grows, and

1056
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Speaker 11: so the burden, you know, because I know everyone listening

1057
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Speaker 11: to the show is concerned about our massive debt, and

1058
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Speaker 11: one way of lowering that debt is to grow our

1059
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Speaker 11: way out of it. So look, I'm super bullish on

1060
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Speaker 11: this US economy. It's been a really good twenty twenty five.

1061
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 11: I don't care what the polls are showing that all

1062
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Speaker 11: of the indicators show a very strong growth year, and

1063
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Speaker 11: I think we're going to see a speed up in

1064
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 11: twenty twenty six because a lot of people come up

1065
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Speaker 11: to me on the street and say, hey, Steve Moore,

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Speaker 11: I know you help.

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Speaker 9: Write that beautiful bill. Why dindt I seeing it?

1068
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Speaker 11: And I tell people, well, because yeah, it hasn't taken

1069
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Speaker 11: effect yet. For tens of millions of Americans. On January first,

1070
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Speaker 11: when they get their first paycheck for the month of January,

1071
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Speaker 11: they're going to start to see less money with help

1072
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Speaker 11: from their paycheck, which is exactly what Americans want to see.

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Speaker 1: Awesome. Okay, well, let's play some of the reactions from

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Speaker 1: the news media. Here one eighty nine.

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Speaker 28: Third quarter numbers. We're looking for three point three zoom

1076
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Speaker 28: zoom zoom, four point three percent. Four point three percent.

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Speaker 9: That is a nice jump.

1078
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Speaker 1: And I know many may question data gathering.

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Speaker 28: But on the surface, this would be the strongest quarter

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Speaker 28: going back to the third quarter of twenty twenty three

1081
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Speaker 28: when it was four point seven.

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Speaker 9: This is strong.

1083
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Speaker 28: Three point five on consumption blows away the two point

1084
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Speaker 28: seven we're expecting. That would be the best since the

1085
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Speaker 28: last quarter of twenty four. On the price index, here's

1086
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Speaker 28: some not good news. Three point eight percent on the

1087
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Speaker 28: price indecks. That's much higher than two point seven we're

1088
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Speaker 28: looking for.

1089
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Speaker 1: All Right, so we hit the first part.

1090
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Speaker 10: You know, we're we beat the GDP forecast by over

1091
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Speaker 10: a point potentially.

1092
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Speaker 15: But what's it?

1093
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Speaker 1: What is he try talking about with this price index?

1094
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Speaker 11: Steve, Well, I'm not exactly sure quite honestly, because we

1095
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Speaker 11: got a really blockbuster.

1096
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Speaker 9: Number on inflation earlier of the week, late last week.

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Speaker 11: I guess it was where the inflation rate fell to

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Speaker 11: two point seven percent, and if you lack at the

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Speaker 11: last look at the last couple of months, inflation is

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Speaker 11: headed down to two percent or less. And as you know,

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Speaker 11: the FED target rate, which is the rate we should

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Speaker 11: shoot at, is about two percent inflation, so we're headed

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Speaker 11: in that direction. I think the numbers just look overall

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Speaker 11: really strong right now. To me, I don't quite understand why.

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Speaker 11: If you look at the opinion polls, about half Americans

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Speaker 11: think the economy is not doing well and even more so.

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Speaker 11: And I don't get that because it is, you know,

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Speaker 11: it is well. Now a lot of people just say

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Speaker 11: it's doing poorly because they hate Trump, right, you know,

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Speaker 11: you get forty percent of Americans no matter how good

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Speaker 11: things are, they going to say things are bad. But

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Speaker 11: it's going to be harder and harder in my opinion,

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Speaker 11: as we move into twenty twenty six and these good

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Speaker 11: numbers continue to roll in, it's harder for the left

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Speaker 11: to sustain that narrative that it's not a good economy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they're calling it. The line I've seen

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Speaker 5: is calling it the vibe session. It's the numbers seem good,

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Speaker 5: but the sense of among a lot of people as

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Speaker 5: it's bad. Could it be specifically that the situation is

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Speaker 5: very tough for young people just entering the workforce. I know,

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Speaker 5: the hiring for entry level jobs this year was very

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Speaker 5: rough for people just out of college. Is that diverging

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Speaker 5: more than usual from the fate of other workers in

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Speaker 5: the economy.

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Speaker 9: Well, let me say a couple of things about that.

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Speaker 11: I'm smiling when you say that because I graduated from

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Speaker 11: college in late nineteen eighty two, so I'm an little

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Speaker 11: part you know, I'm a baby boomer.

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Speaker 9: Just to get put these.

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Speaker 11: Things in perspective, when I graduated from college, the inflation

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Speaker 11: rate was not three percent, it was nine percent. The

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Speaker 11: unemployment rate was not, you know, four percent, it was

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Speaker 11: eight percent, and the mortgage rate was not five percent,

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Speaker 11: it was like fourteen percent. So for young people to say, oh, gee,

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Speaker 11: this is a very good economy, they don't. They can't

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Speaker 11: put this in any kind of perspective.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 9: I think the one thing that where I would like

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Speaker 9: to see.

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Speaker 11: Improvement on is on the housing front, because I have

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Speaker 11: two sons that are in their early thirties and they're

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Speaker 11: doing fine with their careers, but they cannot afford to

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Speaker 11: buy a house. And that's a result of a lot

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Speaker 11: of things we could get into it. But it is

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Speaker 11: true that housing is very expensive right now.

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Speaker 1: So what is driving that, then, Steven the housing market.

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Speaker 1: If you talk to JD.

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Speaker 10: Vance, if you listened to what he's saying, he's saying,

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Speaker 10: it's a supply and demand issue. We've just been letting

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Speaker 10: in too many people, the foreign populations, too high, illegals,

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Speaker 10: that sort of thing.

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Speaker 1: Is that is that really what's driving it?

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Speaker 15: Is?

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Speaker 10: There are other core drivers of the housing affordability issue.

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Speaker 11: No, I thought, I think it's kind of scapegoating to

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Speaker 11: say it's due to immigrants, because actually immigrants build housing.

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Speaker 11: They don't just they don't just take up housing. I

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Speaker 11: think the real issue here is a couple of things.

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Speaker 11: One is state some localities around the country have put

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Speaker 11: in all sorts of restrictions on building new housing. And

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Speaker 11: so you know, if you don't have an increase in supply,

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Speaker 11: then the price of something is going to go up.

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Speaker 11: So we've got to get rid of these restrictions in

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Speaker 11: so many In fact that many of the blue cities

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Speaker 11: and suburbs you can't build new housing, and that's a

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Speaker 11: big problem. The other thing that is going on here

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Speaker 11: is that people are locked into their homes. So we

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Speaker 11: charge a capital gains tax. If you sell your home

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Speaker 11: and you make a you sell the home for more

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Speaker 11: than you bought it for. Well that's almost all Americans

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Speaker 11: because the value of housing has been going up. And

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Speaker 11: so what people do to avoid paying that very very

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Speaker 11: significant tax is they don't sell their home.

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Speaker 9: So people are locked into their houses.

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Speaker 11: So what I've proposed to Donald Trump is get rid

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Speaker 11: of the capital gains tax on housing when it's sold.

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Speaker 11: And if you do that, you'll have an increase in

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Speaker 11: supply and prices will come down.

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Speaker 10: Well, I got to take issue just a little bit.

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Speaker 10: It is a supply and demand issue. And if we

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Speaker 10: have more people in the country, then you know, I

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Speaker 10: get that a lot of the laborers that are building

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Speaker 10: houses are immigrants, but I mean they are going to

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Speaker 10: have to live somewhere, So there is a dynamic there

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Speaker 10: that yeah, probably.

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Speaker 11: We've been taking you know, for the last thirty years,

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Speaker 11: we've taken tons of millions of immigrants, and housing has

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Speaker 11: actually been a low cost. So there's but look, I

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Speaker 11: take your point, you know, Biden let in, we don't

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Speaker 11: know exactly how many a lot of illegal immigrants. I'm

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Speaker 11: very pro legal immigration, but I'm very much against the

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Speaker 11: illegal immigration.

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Speaker 9: And that's how I think you have a point there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough, all right, So let's get this is

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Speaker 1: Kevin Hasset.

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Speaker 10: Charlie loved Kevin Hassett because it was like this breath

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Speaker 10: of fresh air and optimism when he would come on

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Speaker 10: the show. Let's hear what he's having to say. One

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Speaker 10: ninety three, Resident Trump's trade agenda is working.

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Speaker 29: And so we got about, you know, one and a

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Speaker 29: half percent of the growth on four point three because

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Speaker 29: we reduced the trade deficit.

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Speaker 1: We went back and we looked at every.

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Speaker 29: Blueberg forecast for the main numbers since September had found

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Speaker 29: that on average, we outperformed the forecast ninety four percent

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Speaker 29: of the time. So if ninety four percent of Wall

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Speaker 29: Street economists are getting the macro trends wrong, they need

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Speaker 29: to start to think about, Hey, you know, maybe Trump's

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Speaker 29: policies are actually way better than we thought, and maybe

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Speaker 29: the fake news that says all these terrible things about

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Speaker 29: Trump policies should reconsider and you know, grab their pencil

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Speaker 29: and redo their economics.

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Speaker 1: So, you know, Stephen, it begs the question.

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Speaker 10: I have two questions for you, and we get one

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Speaker 10: in this side of the break, and then we'll have

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Speaker 10: you back on for the next segment. But you know,

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Speaker 10: why do they get so why are these economic economists

1218
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Speaker 10: getting so much wrong?

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Speaker 1: Is it just TDS?

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Speaker 10: And then I want to talk about tariffs, you know,

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Speaker 10: because that seems to be the big hot button question.

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Speaker 1: You could take it in whatever or do you want, Stephen.

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Speaker 11: So, yeah, it's absolutely true that Trump derangement and syndrome

1224
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Speaker 11: is a pathological disorder in this country, and it does judge,

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Speaker 11: it does change people's perceptions of what's happening in the economy,

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Speaker 11: especially academics and professional economists who keep low balling the

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Speaker 11: numbers and they keep getting them wrong. You know, is

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Speaker 11: asat my friend Kevin hasarch I said ninety four percent

1229
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 11: of the time they're wrong. Maybe they should start thinking

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Speaker 11: that there, that their assessments and their.

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Speaker 9: Models are completely off base. They got the inflation.

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Speaker 11: Numbers wrong, they got the job numbers wrong, they got

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Speaker 11: the trade deficit numbers wrong. In fact, I'm writing a

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Speaker 11: column on this right now as we speak about you know,

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Speaker 11: these professional economists probably should turn their PhDs back in

1236
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Speaker 11: and say we don't know what we're talking about, because

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Speaker 11: they are consistently wrong.

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Speaker 10: I think I think economists are simply struggling to catch

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Speaker 10: up with the new paradigm, and they underestimate the amount.

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Speaker 1: Of leverage America has.

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Speaker 10: Is the market point that everybody wants to, you know,

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Speaker 10: play into and sell into. But you know, Trump's flipping

1243
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Speaker 10: the economic models on their heads. So more with Steven

1244
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Speaker 10: Moore on the other side of this break unleashed prosperity,

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Speaker 10: former Trump economists will be right back.

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Speaker 14: Fact first, America First, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 15: All right.

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Speaker 10: You know, because of private student loan debt, so many

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Speaker 10: Americans feel stuck and helpless, and they've even lost hope.

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Speaker 10: Why REFI gives you hope at the end of that tunnel.

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Speaker 10: If your private student loan debt is keeping you up

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Speaker 10: at night and ruining your life, it doesn't have to

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Speaker 10: just call the good folks at why REFI. That is

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Speaker 10: why r ef y dot com. You can also call

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Speaker 10: them eight eight eight y refight thirty four. Yes, private

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Speaker 10: student loan debt in the United States totals three hundred

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Speaker 10: billion dollars, and forty five billion of that is labeled

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Speaker 10: as distressed or defaulted. So if that's you and other

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Speaker 10: people won't help you out of this mess you find yourself,

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Speaker 10: and you've got to call these guys because they will.

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Speaker 10: They will work with you, especially on problems that other

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Speaker 10: people don't want anything to do with. So this Christmas,

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Speaker 10: give yourself the gift of financial stability. Take control of

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Speaker 10: your financi situation. Get off the couch. Take action. If

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Speaker 10: you're just sitting there letting it pile up and it's

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Speaker 10: kind of in the back of your head, it's ruining

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Speaker 10: everything about your day, it doesn't have to. So call

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Speaker 1: Eight eight eight hy refight thirty four.

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Speaker 10: They are amazing people that even let you skip a

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Speaker 10: payment every six months up to twelve times without penalty.

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Speaker 1: Nobody else is going to do that for you.

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Speaker 10: And beyond that, these are great patriots, really good people

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Speaker 10: that support the work at Turning Point USA to support

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Speaker 10: this show. They are loyal people, good people that want

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Speaker 10: the best for you as well. So why that again,

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Speaker 10: that's whyrefi dot com. Why are ef y dot com?

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Speaker 10: Or call them at eight eight eight y refight thirty four.

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Speaker 10: All right, Steven Moore, I I gotta ask you a

1280
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Speaker 10: softball question. What's not soft it's a really hard question. Actually,

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Speaker 10: before we get back to radio, what is your favorite

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Speaker 10: Christmas movie and why?

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Speaker 1: Thirty seconds?

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Speaker 11: Well, Love actually is one of my favorite modern ones.

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Speaker 11: And then i'd have to go with Miracle on thirty

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Speaker 11: four Street.

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Speaker 5: Oh well, I just got an email endorsing that one.

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Speaker 1: Thirty four Street.

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Speaker 11: You guys are so young, you've probably never even seen it.

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Speaker 5: I saw them. They did a nineties.

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Speaker 9: Remake, and you gotta look at the old old one.

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Speaker 1: No, I've seen it. I've seen it. Might see. I

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Speaker 1: grew up in a house that was full of like

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Speaker 1: John Wayne movies and World War two movies.

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Speaker 5: In the black we got one, we got a Caleb

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Speaker 5: said their favorite was Muppets Christmas Carol. I need to

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Speaker 5: see that one. I don't think I ever have see.

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Speaker 10: I like the old school, like the English, like the

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Speaker 10: more English, and like you know, gloomy, the better.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll be right back one second.

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Speaker 10: All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Yes,

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Speaker 10: loving the Christmas Christmas songs today. Good job studio. So

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Speaker 10: you know, let's let's deal with this tearff question one

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Speaker 10: last time here or Blake you've got a.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, we've got it. We got an

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Speaker 5: email from someone I think on the Vibe session topic

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Speaker 5: why people down beat, and he says it's food. Stephen,

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Speaker 5: go to the grocery store and tell me the economy

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Speaker 5: is great. Okay, Biden, Oh, get in, Get in. What's

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Speaker 5: your response to that?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, no, Look I get that all the time,

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Speaker 11: even from my wife, says wall you know, she goes

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Speaker 11: to the grocery store, she comes back really angry about

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Speaker 11: you know, the price of steak used to cost, you know,

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Speaker 11: twelve dollars and now it's twenty twenty five dollars.

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Speaker 9: So I get it.

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Speaker 11: I feel your pain, folks. But if you look overall

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Speaker 11: at the economy, by the way beat, price are way up.

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Speaker 9: Guess what. Pork chops are way down in price. There's

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Speaker 9: a lot of things.

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Speaker 11: Cell phones are down in price, airline airlines are down

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Speaker 11: in price, Motels and hotels are down in price. Televisions

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Speaker 11: are down in price. So overall, the inflation rate is

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Speaker 11: head in the right direction. But I understand people are

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Speaker 11: angry when they come back from the grocery store. And

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Speaker 11: I can tell you this though, that we're going to

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Speaker 11: start to see declining grocery prices as not declining prices.

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Speaker 11: But this is the other thing I keep saying, I'm

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Speaker 11: going to bring prices down. What he meant to say

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Speaker 11: is I'm going to bring the rate of inflation down.

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Speaker 11: We don't want to see deflation. That's even worse for

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Speaker 11: the economy than inflation. We want to stabilize the prices,

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Speaker 11: as my friend Steve Forbes would say, and create a

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Speaker 11: sound stable dollar.

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Speaker 9: And that's exactly what Trump is doing.

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Speaker 1: Well, we are seeing energy prices dropped.

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, gasoline amazing.

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Speaker 1: I mean gases under tree.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, there's a I think in Cincinnati it's at

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Speaker 10: like two point fifty a gallon. Uh, might be one

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Speaker 10: of the lower parts of the country, can.

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Speaker 9: Touch you know what state has the highest gas price?

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Speaker 1: California?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, by like like five bucks a gallon there.

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Speaker 10: Well, yeah, it's a little lowder than that, but you know,

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Speaker 10: like it's very structural. California has you basically can only

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Speaker 10: refine exactly a fuel for cars over here, and they

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Speaker 10: won't build new refineries and so you know, it's a

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Speaker 10: whole issue.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, but there's a serious point. But there's a serious

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Speaker 9: point here.

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Speaker 11: If you look at the ten states that have the

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Speaker 11: highest cost of living, nine of them are blue states

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Speaker 11: because liberal Democrats cause shortages of everything because of their

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Speaker 11: stupid policies, high taxes, high regulations, and therefore the price rises.

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Speaker 11: So if you want lower prices, folks move to a

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Speaker 11: red state like Florida, like Texas, like Alabama, like Utah.

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Speaker 9: That's where prices are low.

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Speaker 25: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Well, I mean, listen, I'm sympathetic to people that want

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Speaker 10: to stay in their home in the blue states, right,

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Speaker 10: we don't have people having to leave the locusts that

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Speaker 10: keep infiltrating.

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Speaker 1: Blake, you had one more question on that, or did I?

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Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, it was just that one there. Oh.

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Speaker 5: I guess we could ask him what he thinks of

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Speaker 5: on housing, what he thinks of like fifty year mortgage

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Speaker 5: topics or whatever. There's various things like that.

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Speaker 9: I'm not a big pan of that. I think you know,

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Speaker 9: you know, stretching out the mortgage is a dumb thing

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Speaker 9: to do. Look, I know Trump's hard is in the

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Speaker 9: right place on that.

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Speaker 11: But the best way to bring the hot price of

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Speaker 11: housing down is to bring the mortgage rate down. And

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Speaker 11: the way you bring the mortgage rate down is bring

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Speaker 11: the inflation rate down, which Trump is doing, Mortgage rates

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Speaker 11: will continue to fall as prices stabilize.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, hey, real quick, we have two minutes left here. Stephen,

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Speaker 10: you were you knew Charlie for a long time. When

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Speaker 10: did you first meet Charlie kirk So?

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Speaker 11: I mean I was thinking about that the other day,

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Speaker 11: and you know he he I met him when he

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Speaker 11: was way before you guys did. I think he was

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Speaker 11: eighteen or nineteen years old, really just getting started. And

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Speaker 11: my friend Gary Raybyne, who was very close to Charlie,

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Speaker 11: had an event with Charlie and I think he was

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Speaker 11: just starting. I think, as I said, just you know,

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Speaker 11: about eighteen or nineteen years old, and I wrot this,

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Speaker 11: who is this snatty nosed kid? You know, he's you know,

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Speaker 11: he was very ambitious, and I don't say that in

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Speaker 11: a negative.

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Speaker 9: Way, in a positive way. He knew what he wanted

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Speaker 9: to do. He knew he wanted to be leader.

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Speaker 11: And what he started doing is like reading out laugh

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Speaker 11: or reading Larry Kudlow, reading Steve Moore and educating himself.

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Speaker 11: And by the way, you can educate yourself way more

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Speaker 11: by reading the stuff that we write than the crap

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Speaker 11: that they teach in college economics because most of it

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Speaker 11: is wrong. That's the reason ninety four percent of the

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Speaker 11: professional economists got it wrong. But he, you know, I

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Speaker 11: just saw his evolution over the next twelve eleven or

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Speaker 11: twelve years, and every time I saw him, he just.

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Speaker 9: Got better and better and better and better.

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Speaker 11: And boy, I mean, it's just such a sad thing

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Speaker 11: because I really believe Charlie Kirk was on path to

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Speaker 11: someday be.

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Speaker 9: President of the United States. I really believe that.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, And you guys, I'll never one of my kind

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Speaker 10: of lasting memories of this show with Charlie at the

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Speaker 10: Helm was every time you'd come on, Steve and we'd

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Speaker 10: have this.

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Speaker 1: This whole topic prepped, and it would be, you know, Charlie,

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Speaker 1: we're going to.

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Speaker 10: Talk about this and this economic new number came in

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Speaker 10: and what Trump's going to do or whatever, and.

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Speaker 1: Then you guys would just like talk about Chicago the

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Speaker 1: whole time.

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Speaker 9: Well, he and I both loved the Chicago. By the way,

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Speaker 9: how about those bears.

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Speaker 11: They pulled off a miracle and Soldiers Field this weekend,

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Speaker 11: so we're probably know.

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Speaker 1: The same night, Stephen, it was the bear.

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Speaker 10: There's one in that overtime game against the Packers, and

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Speaker 10: don't remind me.

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Speaker 11: Well, you know what, that really was a miracle that

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Speaker 11: the odds of the Bearest winning that game with two

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Speaker 11: minutes left was one and two hundred, one and two hundred.

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Speaker 10: It's a Christmas miracle, Steven Moore. Thank you from Unleashed Prosperity.

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Speaker 9: Thank you, my friend.

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas. We'll be right ben Well, way up north

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Speaker 22: Tarrence Bay two with your Real America's Voice news break.

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Speaker 22: We appreciate you being here with US. President Trump out

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Speaker 22: with plans for a new class of US battleships, which

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Speaker 22: of course marks a build up in the US Navy.

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Speaker 22: The Commander in chief says the so called Trump Class

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Speaker 22: of battleships will be larger, faster, and quote one hundred

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Speaker 22: times more powerful than any previously built American warships. Meantime,

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Speaker 22: President Trump also saying that the US will keep the

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Speaker 22: crude oil and the tankers that have been seized near Venezuela.

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Speaker 22: They were netted during the ongoing US blockade in that region.

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Speaker 22: We're also hearing that the administration is pursuing a third

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Speaker 22: tanker after having already stopped.

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Speaker 9: Two of them.

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Speaker 22: The move is a way for the Trump administration to

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Speaker 22: put pressure on Venezuela and President Nicholas Maduro to step

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Speaker 22: down and President Trump continuing the push to make Greenland

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Speaker 22: part of the United States. The latest step involved the

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Speaker 22: President appointing Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry a special envoy to Greenland.

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Speaker 22: Denmark's Prime minister is criticizing the move to convert the island, saying, quote,

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Speaker 22: you cannot annex another country, not even with an argument

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Speaker 22: about international security. That's a quick check of your headlines.

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Speaker 22: We appreciate you being here with us. Now let's get

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Speaker 22: you back to the Charlie Kirk Shows.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 10: Just about to bring in Batya Ungar Sargon from News

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Speaker 10: Nation in just one second. I'm very excited about the

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Speaker 10: conversation we're about to have, but first I want to

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Speaker 10: tell you about our friends over at TikTok.

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Speaker 1: Good conversation is about respect.

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Speaker 10: That's how we create a space where people are able

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Speaker 10: to share their ideas and be heard.

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Speaker 1: Charlie understood that.

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Speaker 10: Turning Point understands that, and TikTok has strived to be

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Speaker 10: a place where that kind of respectful conversation can thrive,

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01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 10: where curiosity fuels connection. When ideas meet respect, good things

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Speaker 10: can happen. On TikTok, you can find a mechanic explaining

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Speaker 10: the why behind a problem most of us wouldn't even

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01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 10: know the name of, or a father sharing a lifetime

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01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 10: of knowledge with his viewers, viewers who listen and then

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01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:51,679
Speaker 10: they respond. TikTok turns a connection into community through small

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01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 10: acts of understanding. You can feel in the connections and

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Speaker 10: the thank you from a stranger halfway across the world.

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Speaker 10: TikTok is a place where respect opens the door for discussion,

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Speaker 10: and discussion helps us build something.

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Speaker 18: Real.

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Speaker 10: Portions of The Charlie Kirk Show are brought to you

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Speaker 10: in part by TikTok.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 10: Next up here is Batya Ungar Saragon. She is the

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Speaker 10: host of Batya with an exclamation mark on news Nation. Bati,

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Speaker 10: you have we were talking on the phone. You've been

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Speaker 10: watching everything from that happened at Amfest from Afar, and

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01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 10: you know you were so complimentary to me and to

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Speaker 10: turning point about the event because I think maybe you

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01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 10: were surprised by it a little bit.

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Speaker 1: You were a little nervous, little trepidation.

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Speaker 10: Going in when you saw the speaker list and then

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Speaker 10: tell us what you're thirty thousand foot view what was

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Speaker 10: the vibe for you watching from Afar.

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Speaker 25: First of all, thank you so much for having me, Andrew,

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Speaker 25: I have to say, I'm like unexpectedly getting a little

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Speaker 25: bit emotional because it's my first time on since Charlie

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Speaker 25: was Yeah, he meant so much to me. Actually, there's

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Speaker 25: a woman on my street whose car has We live

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Speaker 25: in Brooklyn, South Brooklyn, so it's you know, not you know,

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Speaker 25: hipster Brooklyn, but her car is just festooned with stickers

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Speaker 25: about Charlie. And I was literally staking out the car

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Speaker 25: because I didn't know who it belonged to, and I

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Speaker 25: just wanted to thank her. And the first time I

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Speaker 25: saw her getting out of the car, I just ran overturned.

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Speaker 25: We just had the most amazing conversation about what he

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Speaker 25: meant to this country, and so thank you so much

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Speaker 25: for having me. I think about him every single day.

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Speaker 25: I thought that the America fest you put on was incredible, incredible.

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Speaker 25: It was so important because you allowed the debate to

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01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 25: be aired, and I think we get really attached to

1530
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 25: our positions in this country, and then we get really

1531
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 25: attached to the idea that, you know, we have to

1532
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 25: convince people that were right, and we forget that the

1533
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 25: most important thing is I think we're Charlie really stood for,

1534
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 25: which was the view that more unites us than divides

1535
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 25: us as Americans, and that you have to have the conversation,

1536
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 25: you have to trust your fellow Americans, and you have

1537
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 25: to bring that love that he had even to people

1538
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 25: that don't agree with you. I think like that is

1539
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 25: the thing that we really lost, was that spectacle of

1540
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:24,719
Speaker 25: him going to those college campuses and talking to people

1541
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 25: whose views I know he thought were bad and wrong

1542
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 25: and dangerous, but you could still see the love that

1543
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 25: he brought to them. And that's my New Year's resolution

1544
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 25: is to be more like that, even especially when I'm

1545
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 25: talking about the things that mattered to me the most.

1546
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 25: And I just felt that you, really, you and Erica

1547
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 25: made that happen. You aired the debate and everybody could

1548
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 25: see it for themselves, and because this is the greatest

1549
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,760
Speaker 25: country on Earth, and the American people are the most

1550
01:16:56,840 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 25: incredible people on planet Earth, mining and me to just

1551
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 25: trust that process of seeing the debate and hearing the

1552
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:08,640
Speaker 25: debate and listening to both sides. So I just I

1553
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 25: watched every minute of it. I was glued to it,

1554
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:15,560
Speaker 25: and I'm so proud of you and just again like

1555
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 25: to see Charlie's legacy being carried on in such a

1556
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 25: fulsome way was really moving to me and really powerful.

1557
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 1: Wow. Well, thank you, thank you for saying that. Bot

1558
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:26,759
Speaker 1: It means a lot. And I know Blake.

1559
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 10: Blake's in studio there in Phoenix, and you know, we

1560
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 10: both sort of watched everything play out, and we saw

1561
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 10: the online chatter and you know, the elephant in the

1562
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:39,720
Speaker 10: room is sort of this foreign.

1563
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 1: Policy debate, the Israel debate, but also this debate.

1564
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 10: Ben kind of kicked things off on night one, calling

1565
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 10: out some of the people that he had grievances with,

1566
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 10: and then they ended up taking the stage later, some

1567
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 10: of them at least, and kind of throwing it back.

1568
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,640
Speaker 10: So it, like you said, it was this debate, this

1569
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,600
Speaker 10: airing of the family business as Erica called it.

1570
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 1: And we led up to Blake.

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01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 10: Feel free if you want to chime in on that

1572
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 10: and on that point before I move on, because I

1573
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 10: do have a question for Batya.

1574
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:09,560
Speaker 1: No, let's do it.

1575
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 5: Let's get into it, all right.

1576
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 10: So you on your show had some words for I

1577
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 10: mean directed at jd Vance and I want to give

1578
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 10: you a chance to kind of talk about that.

1579
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and play two of nine.

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01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 13: For those already anointing the vice president is the GOP

1581
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 13: nominee for twenty twenty.

1582
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 5: Eight, you might want to slow your role.

1583
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 13: Leadership is about having principles and standing.

1584
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:34,600
Speaker 25: Up for them, no matter the blowback.

1585
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 13: Not being afraid of offending actual nazis.

1586
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 10: All right, So that seems to be the cliff. I

1587
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 10: see you smiling there, So I am obviously team JD.

1588
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,719
Speaker 10: I think he's an amazing leader. I thought his speech

1589
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 10: at Amfest was morally clear. He condemned anti semitism, he

1590
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 10: condemned racism, a di anti white racism, anti Asian racism,

1591
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 10: And it felt like to me being there, it was

1592
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 10: kind of like Dad's in the room. Settle down, kids,

1593
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 10: here's the north star, here's where we're going. You we,

1594
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 10: by the way, we certainly are not trying to anoint

1595
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 10: JD vance anything. It was sort of this if you're

1596
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 10: in turning point circles. Charlie was talking about that we

1597
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 10: have JD's back one thousand percent, and he hopes he runs,

1598
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 10: and if he runs, we've got his back, you know.

1599
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 10: So it was kind of this thing that's been said

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01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 10: out loud forty eight times. I think Erica was just

1601
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:28,560
Speaker 10: kind of like, let's just say it out loud, you know,

1602
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 10: let's just do it here. But from your perspective, why

1603
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,680
Speaker 10: did you say what you said? And you know, what

1604
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 10: is it going to take to kind of get you

1605
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 10: to come around? On the j JD Vance conversation.

1606
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 25: I want to believe I'm so honored to be able

1607
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 25: to have this conversation with you, Like you have no

1608
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 25: idea what it means to me to be here with

1609
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 25: you in the room. On so many issues, I think

1610
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 25: JD is spot on. You know, my top issues I

1611
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 25: would say is I think what President Trump represented, which

1612
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 25: was you know, being pro worker, pro lab or the

1613
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 25: dignity of working class Americans is like my number one issue,

1614
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 25: which entails, you know, getting to immigration zero right away

1615
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:11,639
Speaker 25: for as long as it takes, you know, in order

1616
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 25: to make sure that Americans have access to the American

1617
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 25: dream before we start giving it to everybody else. On

1618
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 25: foreign policy, I'm whare that I guess the fifty percent

1619
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:24,679
Speaker 25: of the turning points draw Pole was like, I see

1620
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:28,679
Speaker 25: Israel as a great ally among great allies. Our interests

1621
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 25: are frequently aligned, but not always. Sometimes these Raelies, I

1622
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 25: think overstep, and I've been you know, glad to see

1623
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:38,720
Speaker 25: President Trump have a really strong idea of when our

1624
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,839
Speaker 25: interests are aligned and when they diverge, and choosing American

1625
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 25: interests when he needs to, you know, so on all

1626
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 25: of that stuff, I feel like, you know, very much

1627
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 25: on the same page. Certainly don't want to go back

1628
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:53,719
Speaker 25: to the like Rhino pre Trump version of the GOP.

1629
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 25: I think that would be a huge mistake and a

1630
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 25: huge betrayal of the American working class, which is like

1631
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 25: where my allegiance is lie as a Jewish American. But

1632
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:07,560
Speaker 25: I will say that I think there have been podcasters

1633
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 25: out there who have been saying things that make me,

1634
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 25: as an American and as a Jew, feel like I'm

1635
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:20,719
Speaker 25: questioning whether this movement wants me. For example, platforming people

1636
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 25: who think that Hitler was not the villain of World

1637
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 25: War two, that's just going to make every Jewish person

1638
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 25: like somebody a podcaster agreeing with that point of view.

1639
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 25: The way that Tucker Carlson seem to is going to

1640
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 25: make every Jewish person feel like, wait a minute, is

1641
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 25: that actually a question? And so when JD says, well,

1642
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 25: I'm you know, close to Tucker Carlson, I disagree with

1643
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 25: him about a lot of things, but I'm not going

1644
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 25: to be clear about what those things are. That leaves

1645
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 25: people thinking, well, you know, is that one of the

1646
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 25: things or not.

1647
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 10: Yeah, and Blake, I want to get you in on

1648
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 10: this conversation because you obviously have a really long conversation

1649
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 10: relationship with with Tucker. But I want to show that

1650
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 10: you mentioned the straw pole. Go ahead and throw one

1651
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 10: seventy eight up on the screen. It shows fifty three

1652
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 10: point four percent consider Israel an ally, thirty three point

1653
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 10: three percent our top ally.

1654
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 1: Only thirteen point three percent say that Israel is not

1655
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 1: an ally of the United States.

1656
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 10: So despite all of you know, the handwringing, all the

1657
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,679
Speaker 10: loud voices online, we still are at you know, eighty

1658
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 10: seven percent of Amfest attendees consider you know, Israel either

1659
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:31,880
Speaker 10: our top ally or or an ally. And you know,

1660
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 10: maybe what you're seeing in the shift in the dialogue

1661
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 10: is more to you know, one ally of many as

1662
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 10: opposed to our top alley. Maybe that's the shift you've

1663
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:42,680
Speaker 10: seen in the Trump era. Blake, I want, I want

1664
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:44,680
Speaker 10: to give you a chance to respond, just because of.

1665
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 5: Your Yeah, so a few things I totally understand where

1666
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,680
Speaker 5: you're coming through specifically on some of that. Yeah, the

1667
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 5: Hitler stuff that's popped up more. I will say, I've

1668
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 5: been hearing stuff like that honestly my entire doll life.

1669
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 5: I think there is an element where some people find

1670
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 5: it interesting in a transgressive sense or something. And I'd

1671
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 5: want to say I hope it has no modern political manifestations,

1672
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 5: but it does. It does pop up with a degree

1673
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 5: that if I were a Jewish American, I think I

1674
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:17,600
Speaker 5: would find it disturbing as more disturbing as you do.

1675
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 5: I don't get why some people think in this particular

1676
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 5: political moment, relitigating an eighty year old war's morality is

1677
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 5: of great importance. But some people like that. I'm I

1678
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 5: will say, I'm some of that.

1679
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 25: I'm in the position I can I just jump in

1680
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 25: for a second.

1681
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 5: Sure, sure, Like when when you first of all, I

1682
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 5: think it's not just.

1683
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 25: Jewish Americans, I think every American should feel worried about

1684
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 25: this question of whether or was really But but I

1685
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 25: mean beyond that, when you say you're like, I don't

1686
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:50,560
Speaker 25: know why somebody would bring that up, but you know,

1687
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 25: like that I know why they would bring it up

1688
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 25: because they.

1689
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 5: Fair you know, what I'm saying, that's fair, that's fair,

1690
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:02,719
Speaker 5: there's there is it's unfortunate. I do think that pattern

1691
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:04,720
Speaker 5: is real for it, certainly, at least some of the

1692
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 5: people doing it. A big picture, I recognize Vice President

1693
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 5: Vance and everyone in this coalition, we have a tough challenge.

1694
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 5: We asked we were doing one of our exclusives interviews.

1695
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:17,720
Speaker 5: I think it was when we had Megan I think

1696
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:19,640
Speaker 5: it was actually when we had Michael Noles on, and

1697
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,760
Speaker 5: we just asked the crowd, raise your hands, do you

1698
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 5: agree more with Ben Shapiro or more with Tucker? And

1699
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 5: it was about fifty to fifty. Ultimately, what we've been

1700
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:31,760
Speaker 5: saying is we have to be able to build a

1701
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 5: coalition that is for it. And what I liked with

1702
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 5: Vice President Vance was he's saying, we are going to

1703
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:41,560
Speaker 5: define this movement by positive things, by positive affirmations, and

1704
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 5: those are going to be good affirmations that make us

1705
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 5: a superior alternative to the left. And I think if

1706
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 5: Vice President Vance is setting a positive example, and if

1707
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 5: he's taking on a leadership role that shows that positive example,

1708
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 5: he can shape the movement in a good direction that

1709
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 5: is good on policy, good on unifying rhetoric and instead

1710
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 5: of having to go around playing place and disavowing people,

1711
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 5: what you are is what you are avowing is going

1712
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 5: to make people into something better. And I think that's

1713
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 5: an example Charlie himself tried to set while he was

1714
01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 5: with us.

1715
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 10: Yeah, thirty seconds, Batya, and then we're gonna take a

1716
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 10: quick break.

1717
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 25: I was truly humbled by how right Andrew and Charlie

1718
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 25: and you Blake were about how you set up the

1719
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 25: whole America fest. I just came away feeling like it

1720
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 25: could not have gone better, and that was because of

1721
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:42,679
Speaker 25: the disparity between me and the views that I heard there.

1722
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 10: All right, well, I'm gonna ask you I have a

1723
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:47,759
Speaker 10: really pointed question when we get back from the break, Batya.

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Speaker 1: We'll be very back with Botchen.

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Speaker 18: You're listening to the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 10: All right, welcome back. We have a minute here before

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Speaker 10: we welcome back national Radio.

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Speaker 1: And I have to ask.

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Speaker 10: I think this is gonna be the hardest question that

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Speaker 10: Batya has to navigate as a Jewish woman. What is

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Speaker 10: your favorite Christmas movie or the like. Is there like

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Speaker 10: a Hanka movie? I don't even know.

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Speaker 25: Okay, I just every year I watch all of the

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Speaker 25: Christmas rom coms, and the thing about them is is

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Speaker 25: that they're all exactly the same, and they're all equally

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Speaker 25: delightful and delicious. So I couldn't even tell you which

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Speaker 25: is the best one because I can just watch.

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Speaker 5: Are the traditions?

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Speaker 4: I know?

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Speaker 5: I know Jewish Americans often eat Chinese on Christmas? Are

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Speaker 5: there traditional movies they watch that are like emphatically not

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Speaker 5: Christmas movies or something?

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Speaker 25: Well, the Big Labowski is often on the list, for sure.

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Speaker 1: The dude, budes, you.

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Speaker 25: Know, I'm an orthodox Jews, so the traditions of like

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Speaker 25: secular liberal Jews, I'm not as familiar with them, you know,

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Speaker 25: to us Christmas is It's funny because one of the

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Speaker 25: things is, you know, like there's certain texts that you're

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Speaker 25: supposed to study and that you're not supposed to study

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Speaker 25: on Christmas. Dude to like, so you know, there's that

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Speaker 25: conversation as well.

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Speaker 1: This is way more complicated than I realized. This was

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Speaker 1: a hard question. The JD Van's questions easy, all right,

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Speaker 1: we'll welcome back radio. Don't go anywhere, all right.

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Speaker 10: I accidentally opened up a whole can of worms asking

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Speaker 10: a Jewish woman what her favorite Christmas moved. It's not

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Speaker 10: a fair question. It's not a fair question. I apologize.

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Speaker 10: Bati did wonderful with it, though Christmas rom coms.

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Speaker 1: What are those? Even? It's like, actually is one love?

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Speaker 1: Actually love?

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Speaker 25: Actually?

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Speaker 10: Well, what's the one with? What's the one with John Cusack?

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Speaker 10: And the British Goal where they they they meet and

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Speaker 10: then they try and find each other again. I'm forgetting that.

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Speaker 1: That's another Christmas movie kind of.

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Speaker 25: There's a really good movie called The Family Stone.

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Speaker 1: Oh see, you and I have wildly different movie tastes. Podya.

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Speaker 10: This is this is going, this is spinning out of control.

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Speaker 10: We need to bring it back right, it back?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 10: So here's my pointed question for actually hy uk. So

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Speaker 10: you've got guys like Steve Bannon, he calls himself a Zionist.

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Speaker 10: You've got Matt Gates, who just did the interview with

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Speaker 10: Tucker Carlson. He calls himself pro Israel. You've got a lot.

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Speaker 10: Meghan Kelly has been traditionally extremely pro Israel. Their biggest

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Speaker 10: beef is that they feel and by the way Charlie

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Speaker 10: had this conversation with Meghan, you know, just before he

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Speaker 10: was assassinated. Actually, it was just this feeling from like

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Speaker 10: the gentile friends of the Jewish people and Israel that

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Speaker 10: there is a moral blackmail campaign where the pressure just

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01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 10: feels like, you know, if you're only with us eighty

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Speaker 10: percent of the way, we're not gonna be happy and

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Speaker 10: we're gonna we're gonna call you names.

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Speaker 25: It.

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Speaker 10: I do find it counterproductive. I'm not saying everybody's guilty

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Speaker 10: of it. I'm literally about to send a video to

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Speaker 10: Dennis Prager wishing him a merry Christmas because he loves Christmas.

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Speaker 10: And you know, I love you like completely, even when

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Speaker 10: I disagree with you. But that's so, what is that

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Speaker 10: dynamic and what do you do about that? Do you

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Speaker 10: feel like the response after October seventh is driving away

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Speaker 10: friends of Israel.

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Speaker 25: I'm going to give an analogy. Okay. I am a

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Speaker 25: person who feels that we should not be funding the

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Speaker 25: Ukraine war. Okay, I've thought that from the beginning two

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Speaker 25: weeks in. Putin was like, if you all just recognize

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Speaker 25: the status quo and ratify it, that CRIMEA belongs to Russia,

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Speaker 25: which he had already taken eight years earlier. You know

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Speaker 25: that the dun Boss is independent, which there was a

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Speaker 25: civil war there, and that Ukraine is not part of NATO.

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Speaker 25: I'll withdraw immediately. I thought we should have pushed for that.

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Speaker 25: You know, we had gas prices were insane at the time.

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Speaker 25: I just didn't understand why. You know, a few hundred

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Speaker 25: kilometers in Eastern Europe up was the responsibility of the

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Speaker 25: American working class to bear. Now, if you hold that view,

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Speaker 25: which I do, you will get letters, snail mail delivered

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Speaker 25: to your home with death threats from people who are

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Speaker 25: pro Ukraine. The entire Ukraine lobby will come after you.

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Speaker 25: They will impugne your character. They will call you a

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Speaker 25: Putin puppet. Doesn't matter how many times you say Putin

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Speaker 25: is a thug and a murderer, which is what I believe.

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Speaker 25: The people who feel very strongly about this issue will

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Speaker 25: do everything they can to get you to shut up.

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Speaker 25: And you know what, Andrew, that is their job. I

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Speaker 25: don't hold that against them. And the idea that that

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Speaker 25: would make me embrace Russia's the good guys. Because the

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Speaker 25: Ukrainians are behaving insane at the extremes. That's insane because

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Speaker 25: I don't answer to the inverse of what the most

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Speaker 25: extreme people in a lobby are doing. I answer to

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Speaker 25: my God. I have to face myself in the mirror,

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Speaker 25: so you know. And the fact that there are these

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Speaker 25: loons at the extreme of the Ukraine lobby that doesn't

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Speaker 25: even influence how I think about Zelenski, or the Ukrainian people,

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Speaker 25: or the vast majority of the people who think we

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Speaker 25: should be funding the war in Ukraine. I have a

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Speaker 25: policy difference that makes me very unpopular with a very

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Speaker 25: big group of people, and the extremes of them are

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Speaker 25: extreme in their opposition to me and think I should

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Speaker 25: be dead for having my view. The idea that I

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Speaker 25: would allow that to influence my view would make me

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Speaker 25: an unseerious person. So do I think there are people

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Speaker 25: in the Israel lobby who embarrass me because they are extreme?

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Speaker 15: Sure?

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Speaker 25: Do I think Israel itself has in some ways behaved badly,

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Speaker 25: especially vis a vis our president, the greatest friend the

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Speaker 25: Jewish people I've ever had. Yes, does that if somebody

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Speaker 25: allows that to determine whether they interview Holocaust survivors? It's

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Speaker 25: anybody telling you that that is an excuse to become

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Speaker 25: anti Semitic, I think is not a morally serious person.

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Speaker 25: That is a person who is not answering to their God,

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Speaker 25: that is a person who is answering to the inverse

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Speaker 25: of the algorithm. And I look down on that.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, and I know that you think some of

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Speaker 10: the reaction has been counterproductive.

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Speaker 1: So I just wanted to give you an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: say that.

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Speaker 10: And listen, I am going to convince you on jd Vance.

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Speaker 10: It's just gonna happen. I'm gonna take.

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Speaker 1: A bow, and the Internet's gonna know because jade Van

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Speaker 1: is a good man.

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Speaker 10: And I know you want to believe, and I know

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Speaker 10: you're you're waiting for You're you're waiting for You're waiting

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Speaker 10: for the signal to proceed. We're gonna We're gonna get

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Speaker 10: you there, Batya. Thank you for joining on this twenty

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Speaker 10: third of December, two days before our Christian Christmas. And

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Speaker 10: you know with that note, we have a really good

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Speaker 10: goodbye song. I think it's a coming. Blake has has

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Speaker 10: tied us up for a good Christmas goodbye. Yeah, we're

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Speaker 10: going to close for us Christians. For us Christians, the

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Speaker 10: Savior is born into this world and we're about to

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Speaker 10: celebrate this blake take us home?

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Speaker 5: Do you hear what I hear? The music was by

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Speaker 5: a Jewish born woman, but it's a lovely Christmas song,

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Speaker 5: as are many good Christmas songs, and we'll have a

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Speaker 5: good Christmas episode for everyone tomorrow. We'll see you then, Mary.

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Speaker 1: Do you see what I you see?

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Speaker 25: What else?

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Speaker 1: See? The Star Star