WEBVTT - Friday at the 2026 PGA Championship: A golf course debate rages on in Philadelphia 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:04.120 Now, the Shotgun Starting Golf is full of mathematics. There's 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:06.680 a lot of setup work that we have to do 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:10.000 in order to make a tournament work. So I'm going 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:12.399 to demonstrate to you just exactly how we do a 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:14.000 shotgun start here and. 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:22.200 Go alright, alright, alright, did no man. 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:25.439 Dark you are. 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:44.080 Greetings, are welcome to a Friday edition of The Shotgun Start. 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:47.519 It is May fifteenth, Andy, how we do it? 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:52.639 Brendan, I'm doing fantastic. I gotta say, what a good 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:55.600 day golf. Just lots of stuff percolating out. 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:59.840 There, percolating to good word, it feels like could boil over, 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:03.720 could bubble up, could be you know, everybody might turn 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:06.120 to you know, the entire golf world, might turn the 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:10.440 guns on each other. Circular firing squad, debating course set up, 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:15.840 proper tests, fair, unfair data. We're on a razor's edge 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:23.760 right now, just data, data, gambling analysis, uh touts just 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:25.960 I mean, you know what, Andy, at the end of 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:29.679 the day, it's just golf. It's just a golf course. 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:32.520 I think we try to have fun with this, we 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:35.200 try to call balls and strikes, but at the end 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:36.920 of the day, it's just a golf course. We try 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:41.920 to say what we think is interesting, fun and proper 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:47.120 and good for consumers, good for listeners, and you know, 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:49.400 as a product. And but at the end of the day, 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:51.640 it is just a golf course. But I think it's 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:55.600 been great, good fun day, good good first fun two days. 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:59.880 I mean pretty uh. I think it's just a fast 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:06.080 dating weeks so far. I think the obviously the course 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:10.000 is kind of front and center, really way more difficult 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.280 than they than everybody thought it was going to be. 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:15.680 Correct hand up, I you know, I predicted ten to 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:20.600 fourteen on Tuesday night under to win. Still got shot 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:23.519 at that, but like you know, it's definitely skewed on 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:28.520 the harder side of what everybody predicted. And I think, 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:33.799 like you look at it, and what's happening is that 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:37.760 there's there's real punishment for the the PG eight Tour 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:43.280 Bible gospel which has become aim away from the flag. 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:46.640 Hit it to the middle of the green and you'll 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:50.160 be fine. You'll just you're gonna cash in putts left 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:51.680 and right if you just hit it to the middle 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:54.200 of the green. This is the gospel of how to 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:58.360 play golf in the modern era and Aronomk is proving 0:02:58.440 --> 0:02:59.840 if you hit it in the middle of the green 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:05.120 you might three put a decent amount, and that seems 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:06.240 to be bothering people. 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:08.280 Or if you miss your spot to the middle of 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:10.640 the green slightly, that the penalty may be severe. 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:15.200 You may be running off yonder. And I think, like 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:21.200 you know, people are always in listen like the leader 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:25.520 of wards bunches crap obviously very con run through it. 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:30.080 Alex smalley and Matt mcdealey scintillating Saturday final pairing that 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:33.320 everybody was hoping for. Then it lead the way at 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:38.920 four under par. But then you've got, effectively you got 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:42.080 twenty eight guys that are even or better. So twenty 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:45.720 eight players within four shots. And if you go a 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:47.920 little bit further, if you wanted to say stretch of 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:51.080 a Maga imagination, I'd say that you know, if you're 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:53.640 plus two or better, you have a chance, and you're 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:56.240 gonna have to play outstanding golf all weekend, but you 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:59.000 have a chance. You're six within six of the lead 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:01.640 you got. You got fifty eight players within six shots 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:04.040 of the elite. And there's a lot of ways you 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:06.080 could talk about, like how do we get here, how 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.080 do we get to a place like it. And it's 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:11.440 a great question who's playing the best right now? And 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:15.240 I don't really know, but I think the set up 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:18.720 is gonna I think the weekend is gonna yield lower scores. 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.480 It's gonna get hot, the ball is gonna go further, 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:24.840 and the wind's gonna die down. It's been cold and windy, 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:28.440 and I think, like what you're seeing his people like, 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:31.640 you know, you build, you play major championship golf. You 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.599 know your job is to build the house. And a 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.000 lot of people are playing in a way to build 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:40.640 lay down that foundation, not screw it up and get 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:42.920 get to the weekend with a shot. And now we 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:46.640 got you know, forty some people with a shot, forty 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:49.720 four people want one plus one or better. Who I 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:53.599 would say, enter the weekend with a real shot and 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:57.040 we'll see if somebody kind of deviates or just plays 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:59.799 off the charts and uh and separate. 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:04.719 So I think that the critique is that it's been 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:08.920 set up to hard in a way that has produced 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:13.240 boring golf. I have not personally found it boring. I 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:16.800 know there's some data underlying data that Joseph was you know, 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:23.839 we talked about midday where it's maybe not skill as 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:27.960 defined by data to be clear, as defined by the 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:33.120 model the data modeling is maybe not being rewarded or 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:36.880 maybe not being discerned in a way that's remarkably different 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:37.880 from a. 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:39.239 Regular PGA tour event. 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.560 What I have found refreshing, And you know, I watched 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:45.080 I think it was Xander on Mondays, like we haven't 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.840 seen greens like this. We just never do. We never do, 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:49.800 and so you already know you're in for something a 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:54.760 little different. And so I guess like, if you're upset 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:57.000 that the pins have made it to like hit it 0:05:57.040 --> 0:06:00.480 to the middle, then try it to put what's ranch 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:03.960 next week or what you know, have asked Gary Young 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:05.240 and everybody to come in and set. 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:05.839 It up for the weekend. 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:06.280 Do that. 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:09.680 You can do that. But variety is a spice of life, 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:11.520 and what we have right now is something we just 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:15.479 don't get that often. And you know, I think like 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:20.240 the judgment that you know, you people like pot Geeter 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:24.200 and minwou Lee would suggest you can kind of drive 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:26.279 it all over the place and get away with it. 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:29.320 You're seeing that's disrespectful to potty. He almost had a 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:31.119 clean toilet at the end of the round. 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:38.480 So it's not like, you know, pure tea degreen. I 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:43.440 just think it's okay to have some variety where a PGA, 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:48.720 you know, would you say PGA and Valhalla better rewarded 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:51.320 the best tea degreen guy. It might have based on 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:54.200 the data sets, but you. 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:58.880 Got to remember everybody operates like a model as gospel, 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:02.000 and the people that right this model will be the 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:06.440 first first to admit, like it's it is our interpret 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:09.760 Like we put a lot of interpretation into a model. 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:16.640 So like hand up, I I like took in the 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:19.960 the sort of the insight of a lot of players 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:21.880 and coaches and things like that who said they were 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:24.280 thought that you would just tear it up right, and 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:27.760 we've just we didn't anticipate it being this hard and 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:29.680 and but I also like we were pretty clear, like 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:31.880 it's pretty there's a lot of mystery, Like it could 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:35.560 be challenging even if there are a lot of more 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:39.280 wedges and shorter irons into greens. I don't think what 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:42.680 I anticipated was the first two days the setup being 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:46.000 this challenging. Usually you get you you get progressively harder, 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.160 or you just have to take into the consideration that 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:50.160 you have one hundred and fifty six players to get through, 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:53.880 but they Carrie Haig just went right to the you know, 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:57.560 the immediately to the woodshed with pins on Thursday. Pins today, 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:01.600 I don't think I've heard players say they're like unfair 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:05.040 or outrageous, or they've said they're pretty much the hardest 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:08.640 they've ever had. But again, that's against the baseline of 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:13.239 this sort of modern tour and quite frankly more benign 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:18.240 US Open era. And so nobody's saying it's it's it's 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:22.440 goofy golf though this is just frankly something they don't 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:23.040 see on tour. 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:28.240 Tom Doak built a golf course at Memorial Park and 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:30.720 he had to, you know, when he build a golf course, 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:34.960 like for the Tour, for a tour event, you have 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:38.560 to work with their design team. The tour design team 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:41.840 said that they need to have pretty big areas with 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:46.280 no greater than one point seventy five percent slope in 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:49.240 those areas. So this is what the tour is saying 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:52.840 they want for setup. They want big areas with very 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:56.440 little slope and that's your your kind of like their 0:08:56.559 --> 0:09:00.960 dream setup scenario week in week out. Ironom Make is 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:05.440 the complete opposite it is large swaths of the green 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:09.760 with unpittable slope because it's so severe, and then these 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:13.000 little pockets where you can place flags all over the place, 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:17.160 and the dynamic the difference is is like on tour 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:19.440 week in week out, you know, and I saw the 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:22.439 Jamie Kennedy compared three putts to Augusta National, and I 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:24.959 would say Augusta National is not like your tour set 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.959 up week in week out, but it's easier to visualize. 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:32.800 If you hit the ball within that kind of relatively 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:36.880 small pocket at Augusta National, you are rewarded with a 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:41.560 very good look at Bertie. If you miss it, it's 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:45.280 a hard to putt. The difference between Augusta National and 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:49.240 Irono Make is that those little pockets, in my opinion, 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:54.120 are shrunk down, and with the way the PGA kind 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.800 of came out with the daggers out, we haven't seen 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.520 it in some of their bigger pockets. It's been in 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:02.440 the small US pockets. And that's why you're seeing all 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:06.240 these three putts is because of the insane slope where 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:09.600 you would like where at most golf courses a really 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:14.880 good shot would be. So the the big big thing 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:18.040 here is like I think in general, I would say 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:23.000 modern golf architecture has and set up has always kind 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:28.640 of undervalued just what big tilt does in greens, when 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:31.800 when a green is just set with this and you 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:34.920 build from that and you create from that. And I 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.120 think that's the the story of this week is that 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:40.679 when you're on the wrong side of gravity and it's 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:43.920 firm and fast, you're you're in a bad spot. 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:47.839 Brother, and it's so you think the scores might get 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:53.160 a little easier on the weekend because it's gonna get hot. Yeah, 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:55.960 that's the one thing. Like obviously when we're talking Tuesday, 0:10:57.400 --> 0:10:59.640 you know, there was this notion Wednesday walking around there 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:03.000 and it was so windy, Like why are guys even practicing? 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:05.960 This isn't what they're gonna face, Like, this is just 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.560 pointles because it was just constant. It wasn't even gusting, 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:10.920 it was just constant, like twenty five thirty, Like, why 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:14.440 even practicing this? Then it turns out that is a 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.440 lot of the first two rounds. I don't think people 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.800 anticipated that win and it made it really challenging. So 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:23.800 that will lie down It seems like we didn't expect 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:26.480 it though, and but it does seem like that's supposed 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:31.199 to lie down. Have they used all the hard pins already? 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:31.760 Probably not. 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:34.199 There's enough, there's plenty of them to go around a 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:38.240 lot of tough so I think they just keep it going. 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:42.480 This is my thing, Like would this be good every week? No? 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:48.600 If it's just like you know, this test would not 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.560 be you know, variety is what we're looking for here. 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:53.440 And if you want the PGA to be the same 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:56.319 every year, like it has to be the guy who 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:58.600 strokes gained, you know, he has to be top five 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:02.520 strokes gained Tita Green, then that's stupid. Just hold the 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:05.600 PGA in the SOFI dome under the same conditions every 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:08.120 year and just read the read the data sheet when 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:10.760 it's over. Don't even watch, just read the leaderboard when 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:11.160 it's over. 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:13.679 The other thing that could never happen is they have 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:16.520 to be within x shots of the lead or else 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:19.840 they should just quit and stop playing. You know, these 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:22.440 are all the rules of data and we must abide 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:25.319 by them. Maybe we need maybe you know, we got 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:27.520 the fair police out there for of course set up. 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:30.760 I liked Will Knights had a comment in our slack 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:34.800 that you know you've put dropped in a question that 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:38.760 that scott Somebody asked Scotty about did you have anything 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:44.040 unfair happened to you? Said? Well, I said, that's like 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:48.319 just just sticking the speedomena or the radar gun right 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:50.600 in his face, trying to catch him speeding. 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:55.880 Uh, let me read that. Did anything unfair happen to 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:56.520 you out there? 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:57.400 You know what? 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:00.280 Like Andy, I think we're over indexing on the pine 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:04.800 hers stuff from two years ago. I think, Scottie, maybe 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:08.040 I know we've got to cart he's the sheriff. Now 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:11.480 you can't come back. Did anything unfair happen to you 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:15.839 out there? Scheffler? I mean not unfair? I mean I 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:18.520 think the only time our game where it's unfair is 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:20.320 like if you get winds starting to blow the ball 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.480 off the greens. I just feel like he's cast a 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:26.560 wider net on what unfair is before though, right, I 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:29.440 mean enough town, Yeah, tough town. 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:32.360 You know, bud balls he sees. 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:34.959 I don't think it's been just when the wind's blowing 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:37.080 the ball at the green. But I digress. This is 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:40.319 his answer. Now, I hadn't seen that yet. It looks 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:41.480 like I haven't seen that yet. 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:43.319 This week. It looks like the wind's going to die 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:44.719 down and this week goes on. I don't think we'll 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:45.319 see that this week. 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:47.640 It's funny sometimes I feel like that they are a 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:49.720 game right now, which I do enjoy. I love hard 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:52.160 tested golf, but it's also the hardest game in the world, 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:53.920 and we're trying to make it harder and there's different 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:56.040 ways you can do that. You can do that on 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:58.560 a golf course like this, I truly believe they can 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:00.480 have the winning score of you whatever they want it 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:02.719 to be. It could be over par if they want 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:07.280 it to be, just based purely upon pin locations. Is 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:10.040 that the best test? Who knows? It's a different test. 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:12.079 So speaking to this variety. 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.400 Point, great take right there, different test, it's. 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:16.920 A different test. I think that's what's great about our 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.800 game is very rarely do we play the same golf course, 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:21.680 and even when you do it a place like Augusta, 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:25.760 it's different each and every year. So conditions are always changing, 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:28.000 the golf course is always changing. I think it's the 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:29.920 hardest game in the world and still just trying to 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:32.680 solve a bit of a puzzle. Really a great answer 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:36.520 from the sheriff. I wonder if he's you know, is 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:38.720 he trying to turn in his badge here. It's a 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:42.240 really interesting perspective about it. It's the best I don't know. 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:44.320 It's different, and that's what's great is how it can 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:46.040 change from year to year, week to week. 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.720 He just wants to move into different Uh, he wants 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.080 to move into the into the DA's office. 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:58.320 I will say somebody had just somebody was I don't 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:00.640 know if there was a recruiter out there trying to 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:04.640 get people in, but someone asked, uh, got her up? 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:08.320 Who by the way, sixty five five under sixty five? 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:12.000 It wasn't like everybody was just three two putting for 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:14.960 par middle of green two punning like sixty five was 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:18.600 out there. I think the probably early late wave will 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.320 be kicking themselves. And you said it yesterday, like I 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:25.240 on the lunch the midday check in, You're like, these 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:29.160 guys kind of kicked it away the early wave yesterday, 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:31.640 and then they certainly got a bit more more benign 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:35.400 set of uh set of wind today and. 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:36.920 They all kicked it away. 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:37.720 They booted it. 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:42.360 No one really went and got it, but uh, someone 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:46.480 did ask got her up? If anything was unfair. There 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:49.000 was definitely a police recruiter out there just trying to 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.600 get new uh new trips. He goes, how do I 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:54.840 He looked at himself, He looked up and down. He's like, 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:58.119 I don't know. He goes, I'm trying to answer this properly. 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:02.160 He's like, I can't say it's unfair. So he pleased 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:04.760 the fifth. This is the storyline nobody's talking about. He 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.400 didn't want to incriminate himself. He wasn't going to turn 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:12.240 state's witness and be a testify on on behalf of 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:14.800 the police and the prosecution. So I'm going to try 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.520 and answer this properly. I don't think it's unfair, but 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:19.640 I do think for paces of playing certain aspects, there 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:21.920 have been a couple. You know, fourteen is the pin 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:24.880 is aggressive. You're hitting four iron to a ten foot circle. 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:27.240 If it doesn't go there, it's off the green. And 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:28.480 we saw that frequently. 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:33.160 Just Rory shot like a towering of an iron. 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:38.240 You can just boom out of here, no chance. 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:43.640 The thing about games of strategy, you know, golf is 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:48.440 a game of strategy. Sometimes the right play is fifteen 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:52.960 feet left, like in that case, on that whole it 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:56.160 was just play fifteen feet left, take your par and 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:59.560 walk away. What's kind of interesting about this week is 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:03.640 that if you go to another hole fifteen feet left 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:08.480 could be death, and I would just you know, I 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:15.200 would point out that never ever have have players spent 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:19.480 less time preparing for major championships on the golf course. 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:23.440 Ever, because of how the schedule's compressed, well. 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:27.159 Just the way they go. They'll play nine holes a 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:31.439 day and they you know, these players spend so little 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:34.200 time on the actual golf course and what they rely 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:38.199 on is people to tell them how to play the 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:42.720 golf course and how to play golf. And the reality 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:45.160 is is that of all the greens in the world, 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:48.880 Irana Mak would rank in the top five to ten 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:52.000 of sets of greens that you'd want to spend the 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:55.560 most time you possibly could figuring it out and figuring 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:59.240 out how where the miss is, where the spot to 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:02.879 hit it is. And it's not as prescriptive as just 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:05.680 to hit it fifteen feet left or right, you know, 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:08.640 and you shade it one way or the other base 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:11.159 off of how far away you are. There are a 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:16.359 plus places the misshots into and an absolute disasters. And 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:19.160 I think that's what we've seen out seen play out 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:21.520 and I think There's an element of this is that 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:26.240 these as somebody's going to figure out the golf course 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:30.800 over the weekend, and they they're gonna that figuring out 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:33.720 the golf course is going to match up with supreme 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:35.760 shot making, and we're going to see a couple of 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:39.320 people get out in front at the on Sunday. 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:41.080 I think you started to see it a little bit 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:43.640 with Cameron and Chris got her up. I think that's 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:47.520 going to happen. I'm not ready to look it's not 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:49.920 bombing Gouge. I think that was like the prevailing notion 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:51.760 it's gonna be bombing Gouge. It's going to be very 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:55.040 similar to Wayne Foot twenty twenty. I don't think that's 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:58.040 the case. I also don't think you like you clearly 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:01.639 don't have to hit every fairway. You don't have to 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:03.720 be the most accurate driver. Patrick Reed is not a 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:04.720 particularly good driver. 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:05.680 He's done well. 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:08.840 Stephen Yaeger on like on the record, second man, I'm 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:11.280 never gonna be a guy. It's a lot of fairways. 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:14.760 He's doing well. There isn't ability to Speaking. 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:18.360 Of Steven Yeger, we got to another storyline that nobody's 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:18.920 talking about. 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:21.600 I'm sorry to more than the ten day. 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:26.359 What's going on? Perfect game Jaeger gets his spot start 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:30.160 and throws the perfect game of eighteenth straight parts and that. 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:34.640 Was amazing because it's great to be pokey free. Unfortunately, 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:39.520 I also didn't have any birdies, so I you know, 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:42.560 min Wu potties, I mean potty is kind of shipping 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:44.440 it all over the place and getting away with it. 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:46.920 So that doesn't mean it's Bob and gouage, but you 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:50.720 also don't there there It depends. There's a penalty for 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:52.800 missing the fairway. Some of these fairways pitch and they're 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:56.200 much more effectively smaller than they seem. The word generous 0:19:56.320 --> 0:19:58.280 was like the word du jour at the start of 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:00.240 the week. I don't think that would be said anymore. 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:01.840 But you can get away with miss. 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:03.840 I think there's a couple of things here and this 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:07.800 is where it's it's not everybody wants black and white, 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:11.320 and there's a lot of douance to everything. And like 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:14.320 the way this golf, the golf is being played out 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:17.000 in my eyes, is there's enough space to hit a 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:18.760 lot of fairways, and if you hit a lot of fairaways, 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:21.719 you're probably gonna play pretty well. We saw that with 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:25.800 Scottie round round one versus round two, Like the difference was, 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:28.399 you know, Rory round one versus round two, he had 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:30.800 a lot more fairways, you know, he had a lot 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:33.840 more generally, a lot more looks at Bertie. So anyways, 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:38.560 there's enough space to hit fairways and consistently hit fairways, 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:42.160 which is great. The rough is thick, it can be unpredictable. 0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:46.439 Sometimes you can get good lives, sometimes awful lies. It's firm, 0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:49.520 so it's going to lead to a lot of outcomes. 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:52.159 But I think the key here is like if this 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:55.800 golf course was two hundred yards longer, I think this 0:20:55.960 --> 0:21:00.280 leaderboard would look way different and it would be more 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:04.960 accustomed to what people you know, quote unquote want or 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:08.240 what they want their model, how their models would have worked, 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:11.679 you know better. But because it's shorter, it's on the 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:16.159 shorter end that distance is not as much of a 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:19.560 prerequisite because yeah, sure Potty can blast it up there 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:23.439 and get a flip ledge in his hand. But you know, 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:27.200 a guy like Maverick McNeely still, you know, and he's 0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:30.160 gotten on the longer end of things, But that guy 0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:34.000 Maverick McNeely can still have a wedge. You know, it's 0:21:34.040 --> 0:21:39.719 not like he's hitting a demonstratively longer club, if that 0:21:39.800 --> 0:21:40.320 makes sense. 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:44.440 Yeah, the best driver in the top ten is David Pooge. 0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:48.720 Everybody else is sort of like okay to average. It's 0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:50.920 there is a way to score and get around here. 0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:54.240 Do you have a newfound respect for Carrie Haig? I 0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:57.560 don't think. I want to say. We sort of said, look, 0:21:57.920 --> 0:22:00.920 there's two signs of thinking and and some people told 0:22:00.920 --> 0:22:03.240 me on Tuesday he kind of whoss out and he 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:06.280 just doesn't go hard enough. Others say he sets up 0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:08.719 the perfect major because it's just let's the it's what 0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:12.760 the conditions in course that week are. We were sort 0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:15.760