Speaker 1: Hey, there are folks. It is Friday, October third. Sean
Speaker 1: Diddy Combs will be in prison for another three plus years.
Speaker 1: Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Ropes. We
Speaker 1: need some context here. We just got the sentencing for
Speaker 1: Sean Didty Combs. He has been sentenced to four years
Speaker 1: two months in jail. Fifty months total is what we got.
Speaker 1: Now he's spent fourteen in jail already. There's time served
Speaker 1: and all this stuff or good behavior, But the bottom line, folks,
Speaker 1: is that Sean Didty Combs is going to be in
Speaker 1: prison for years to come.
Speaker 2: That's correct, and in fact, there have already been speculation
Speaker 2: that if he has good behavior, he could possibly get
Speaker 2: out in two and a half years. But it is
Speaker 2: certainly not what Sean Combs wanted. That's not what his
Speaker 2: defense team wanted, and he seemed he didn't seem he
Speaker 2: seemed disappointed. I guess that's probably the best way to
Speaker 2: put it when the verdict was read. But I know
Speaker 2: that many of you who are following along and watching
Speaker 2: the judges comments as they were coming down through some
Speaker 2: of those live reports from reporters in the courtroom, many
Speaker 2: of us present party included thought that the judge was
Speaker 2: going to go even harsher, was going to add even
Speaker 2: more years. I was actually, in a sense relieved because
Speaker 2: I thought he was going to throw the book at
Speaker 2: him by what he was saying leading up to the
Speaker 2: actual sentencing.
Speaker 1: And to a certain degree, Shan Ditecombs and his lawyers
Speaker 1: might feel like the book has been thrown at them
Speaker 1: at him because they were asking for fourteen months. He's
Speaker 1: been in prison for thirteen months already during the trial,
Speaker 1: so it's almost a time serve situation, and they are
Speaker 1: in their minds thinking about him being home maybe immediately
Speaker 1: or at least in time for the holidays, is what
Speaker 1: we're talking about. Ropes. This was a big dramatic moment
Speaker 1: today when it was revealed that he had speaking engagements
Speaker 1: lined up five six of them at a nonprofit that
Speaker 1: works with incosts are in people. So it was still
Speaker 1: supposed to be something he was giving back to the community,
Speaker 1: but it was revealed during his sentencing hearing that this
Speaker 1: man whose life is on the line and going possibly
Speaker 1: to prison for years.
Speaker 2: Is already planning being free.
Speaker 1: Judge can't feel good about that now, No end good.
Speaker 2: Calls, and because we had people who were in the
Speaker 2: courtroom watching. He actually his head snapped up, I believe
Speaker 2: is how they described it when the prosecutors dropped that bomb.
Speaker 2: And I do think that was a moment where he thought, oh, no,
Speaker 2: that's not good. And it certainly was not a good
Speaker 2: look to have someone who was facing up to eleven
Speaker 2: but maybe even twenty years behind bars already planning or
Speaker 2: assuming that he could be free in a week. And
Speaker 2: so that was not a good look. And it spoke
Speaker 2: to I even said to you, do you think his lawyers,
Speaker 2: people close to him convinced him made him believe that
Speaker 2: he was actually going to be free after this hearing?
Speaker 2: The answer has to be maybe, or even probably.
Speaker 1: Look that look, some of us there was a lot
Speaker 1: of conversation around the possibility of him going home today
Speaker 1: and if we thought it, you know, that was best
Speaker 1: case scenario. Maybe thought it was pie in the sky,
Speaker 1: but there was some part of him who thought that.
Speaker 1: And you do not make possible plans for next week
Speaker 1: and the next two weeks in Miami if you think
Speaker 1: you're going to prison for a long.
Speaker 2: But you were shocked when you heard that. I was
Speaker 2: shocked when I heard that. I don't think any one
Speaker 2: of us actually thought that was highly likely. Yes, there
Speaker 2: was a chance, but it was a chance. So it
Speaker 2: was very shocking to hear that he actually thought it
Speaker 2: was significantly more than a chance, enough to actually schedule
Speaker 2: potential speeches outside of prison as a free man in Miami,
Speaker 2: starting to go ahead and give back to the community,
Speaker 2: moving past a prison sentence. That was fairly shocking to me.
Speaker 1: The context there. Yes, the prosecution kind of dropped that
Speaker 1: bomb and let everybody know he had these speaking engagements.
Speaker 1: It comes out and in fact it was a nonprofit.
Speaker 1: Then his attorney explained it later by saying, yeah, we
Speaker 1: want him to have things to do or to look
Speaker 1: forward to, or to have an anticipation for. Is how
Speaker 1: they explained it. Fine either way, at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, it didn't matter much to this Judge Robes.
Speaker 1: We sat here, this is how it happened today in court. Look,
Speaker 1: we didn't know how long this thing was going to go.
Speaker 1: This was an all day affair.
Speaker 2: We did not anticipate that at all.
Speaker 1: We didn't think they were going to have a lunch break.
Speaker 1: And then they took a lunch break and said, oh,
Speaker 1: we need to get settled in here for a little bit,
Speaker 1: but a key component. We had an earlier episode where
Speaker 1: we're explaining what happened previously in court, but here we
Speaker 1: just want to go through what did he said and
Speaker 1: what the judge said. So they requested, I don't know
Speaker 1: if this happens, but the judge granted it. The defense asked, hey,
Speaker 1: I know the prosecution has a rebuttal coming, so they
Speaker 1: were going to get to have a rebuttal to everything
Speaker 1: the defense did. They said, but we would like and
Speaker 1: we asked that Sean Diddy Combs be allowed to speak
Speaker 1: after the prosecution rebuttal. Point there being the last person
Speaker 1: the judge got to hear from today before he made
Speaker 1: his decision was Sean Diddy Combs.
Speaker 2: That's right, and he had a twelve minute speech so
Speaker 2: to speak to the court where he first of all
Speaker 2: thanked the judge in the court for giving him the
Speaker 2: opportunity to finally speak, and he talked about how that
Speaker 2: was one of the most difficult parts about the entire trial,
Speaker 2: was not being able to express He said, how sorry
Speaker 2: I am for my actions. I want to thank you
Speaker 2: for giving me the chance to finally speak up for myself.
Speaker 2: So we said being quiet, staying quiet was incredibly difficult,
Speaker 2: and he did start off with an apology, which I
Speaker 2: did think was the right call. He apologized for any
Speaker 2: harm or hurt that he caused Cassie ventur Fine. He
Speaker 2: also apologized to Jane, saying that that's of course a
Speaker 2: pseudonym for one of his former girlfriends, that he was
Speaker 2: sorry that I brought you into my mess. He also
Speaker 2: apologized to all victims of domestic violence, citing the video
Speaker 2: that we all saw that was played at nauseum during
Speaker 2: trial of him beating ventur A Cassie Ventur Fine in
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen that we saw last year, but certainly was
Speaker 2: the centerpiece perhaps of the prosecution's case against him when
Speaker 2: it came to the violence in which he was able
Speaker 2: to control Cassie and other women.
Speaker 1: That was We've mentioned that again and I said to
Speaker 1: you a moment ago, I mean, he's gotten people going
Speaker 1: to talk about this. Yes, he was sentenced to four
Speaker 1: years and two months officially for transportation to participate in prostitution.
Speaker 1: And I said to you, a lot of people had
Speaker 1: an issue with him doing a lot of time for
Speaker 1: crimes that he wasn't convicted of, and even in the
Speaker 1: hearing today the judge said, I am going to allow
Speaker 1: conduct that you weren't convicted of to be a factor
Speaker 1: in my sentencing for you, I said to you about
Speaker 1: that video. Man, if everybody was speculating, he's probably gonna
Speaker 1: get five years six to everybody. Whoever, if you're listening
Speaker 1: right now, you've had a conversation with somebody saying, what
Speaker 1: do you think he's gonna get four years two months
Speaker 1: that video alone? If you told me you want to
Speaker 1: give him four years, two months, five years, six years
Speaker 1: just for the video of what we saw happening with
Speaker 1: Cassie Venturo, I don't know how you could make an
Speaker 1: argument against that.
Speaker 2: I think most people would be okay with that, and
Speaker 2: especially in the context of that was just one moment,
Speaker 2: that was just one day, that there were countless incidents
Speaker 2: that were similar to that that we didn't see, that
Speaker 2: we would never see. That only she could describe that,
Speaker 2: only she lived through. So but to actually have that
Speaker 2: physical proof that we could actually witness with our own eyes,
Speaker 2: you can't unsee it, and seeing how brutal it was,
Speaker 2: how vicious it was, I do believe that the sentence
Speaker 2: that was handed down today, I agree with you by
Speaker 2: just looking at that video, I don't think many people
Speaker 2: could argue that that wasn't a just sentence, even if
Speaker 2: it were just for that particular singular moment.
Speaker 1: Just as a human being, You're not that was just awful.
Speaker 1: That's going to stick with all of us. But just that,
Speaker 1: and again, a lot of the legales we don't understand
Speaker 1: and what's right and the man act and all this
Speaker 1: back and forth. What we understand is not all the
Speaker 1: racketeering and all No, what we understand is that this
Speaker 1: man we see beating a woman, This man we hear
Speaker 1: in court day and day out. A lot of this
Speaker 1: was not disputed. Harassing, abusing, assaulting.
Speaker 2: Threatening women, yes, and people right kicking someone while they're down.
Speaker 2: I mean, that is kind of one of the lowest
Speaker 2: things you can do to someone. And that is actually
Speaker 2: what we witnessed.
Speaker 1: And again, I know his family is hurting, but on
Speaker 1: a human level, And even if you don't understand all
Speaker 1: the legal back and forth, you don't have a problem
Speaker 1: saying this is unjust like he got too much. You're
Speaker 1: not going to say that. You can make an argument
Speaker 1: he didn't get enough. But it's difficult to make an
Speaker 1: argument right Robes that yes, he's got too much time
Speaker 1: with the judge was too harsh on.
Speaker 2: I think that that is a very fair way to
Speaker 2: look at it. I mean, everyone's going to have their
Speaker 2: individual opinion, but I do think that, and again, I
Speaker 2: think the judge was building it up. We were actually
Speaker 2: at the edge of our seats looking and refreshing to
Speaker 2: get the court room reporters like minute by minute, blow
Speaker 2: by blow, what's happening in court, And when you were
Speaker 2: hearing what the judge was saying, it seemed as though
Speaker 2: he was going to be much harsher.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, he might actually get
Speaker 2: ten years, he might get seven years. We were really
Speaker 2: thinking that. So then when he ended up saying fifty months,
Speaker 2: it actually felt like a little bit of a relief, like, Okay,
Speaker 2: it's not going to be that much. And then when
Speaker 2: we really processed it, it actually felt pretty fair.
Speaker 1: Can you say a relief? Not that we wanted him
Speaker 1: to get what I'm saying, what you were saying, and
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're saying that we for a
Speaker 1: moment while the judge was speaking, said, holy hell, he's
Speaker 1: going to give him more than the eleven Yes, like
Speaker 1: he was sounding that harsh yes to where we thought
Speaker 1: Diddy was going away for a long decades.
Speaker 2: He could have been sent away for twenty years period.
Speaker 2: That absolutely could have happened, and that was within the
Speaker 2: judge's discretion to do that. So it was possible.
Speaker 1: So Didy in making his what was it twelve minutes,
Speaker 1: they said it was well. They spoke to the judge.
Speaker 1: He said, I asked your honor for the chance to
Speaker 1: be a father again. I asked your honor for the
Speaker 1: chance to be a son again. I asked your honor
Speaker 1: for the chance to be a leader in my community again.
Speaker 1: I asked for a chance to get the help that
Speaker 1: I desperately need to become a better person, because I
Speaker 1: don't want to let God down. I don't want to
Speaker 1: let my family down. I would have robes that I
Speaker 1: can't imagine what this was like to hear him speak
Speaker 1: in that quote room.
Speaker 2: He actually used the word beg. He begged the judge
Speaker 2: for mercy. That was a very humble moment. I do
Speaker 2: appreciate what he said as well, when he said I
Speaker 2: can't change the past, but can change the future. And
Speaker 2: that's when he said, I asked your honor for mercy.
Speaker 2: I beg your honor for mercy to be a father again,
Speaker 2: a son again, and be a leader in my community again,
Speaker 2: and get the help I desperately need. So that I
Speaker 2: thought that was a heartfelt moment. When he, you know
Speaker 2: I mentioned in the episode earlier, like some of his
Speaker 2: pleas for mercy, with some of the highly produced video
Speaker 2: that he sent and some of the things he said
Speaker 2: in his letter, I was a little bit turned off by.
Speaker 2: But I do think he did humble himself in front
Speaker 2: of the court. Not that it meant that he should
Speaker 2: have gotten off or away or let out immediately, but
Speaker 2: I do think that it did feel heartfelt. It did
Speaker 2: feel authentic.
Speaker 1: The judge though, as we mentioned, he certainly built this
Speaker 1: thing up, and there was anticipation, and you could tell,
Speaker 1: really almost robes from the moment the hearings started this
Speaker 1: morning at ten o'clock. Things were not gonna go Sean
Speaker 1: diddy Combe's way. And then once we did start hearing
Speaker 1: from the judge, right before he was going to announce
Speaker 1: the fifty months sentence, you would have been convinced that
Speaker 1: this judge was about to throw the book. Yep. Isn't
Speaker 1: that the phrase yes, throw the book at Diddy, We'll
Speaker 1: tell you stay here after the break what the joke
Speaker 1: judge said that had us thinking, did he was gonna
Speaker 1: go away for eleven, twelve, fifteen years? Even? Stay here?
Speaker 1: All right, folks, we continue now, Seawan Didty Combs fifty
Speaker 1: months in prison? That is his sentence. That equates to
Speaker 1: four years and two months. Do the math with the
Speaker 1: thirteen almost coming up on fourteen months he's already done,
Speaker 1: that would mean about another three years in prison for
Speaker 1: Sean did He Combs. I don't know the math. Good behavior,
Speaker 1: but you've been looking into this. He could potentially get
Speaker 1: out two and.
Speaker 2: A half years, is what a lot of folks think.
Speaker 2: He'll be in prison for another thirty months or so,
Speaker 2: give or take.
Speaker 1: All right, So that is what we know now of
Speaker 1: this whole ordeal. Yes, Shawn Combs is going to PRIs
Speaker 1: this medium mogul, the guy who has who literally was
Speaker 1: a part of changing the game and music changing what
Speaker 1: hip hop, taking hip around the world. This guy is
Speaker 1: an icon in the industry and one of the biggest
Speaker 1: self made entrepreneurs we have ever seen in hip hop.
Speaker 1: Is going to prison for three years excuse me, forty.
Speaker 2: Fifty months, fifty months, but so it'll be a total four. Yes.
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure I continue to stay clear.
Speaker 1: Now the judge when he started, so did he got
Speaker 1: to speak. He was the last person to speak before
Speaker 1: the judge got to speak. And roads when the judge started,
Speaker 1: our eye rives started like wait, whoa wait, and then
Speaker 1: every update we got was worse than the last one.
Speaker 2: Correct or did he at least yes? Because he said, yes,
Speaker 2: I'm considering the fact that you're a self made artist.
Speaker 2: I'm considering the fact that you've inspired and lifted up
Speaker 2: your community. He noted his philanthropic work, his devotion to
Speaker 2: his family, his work battling his own drug addiction. But
Speaker 2: this is when you get the butt. However, the court
Speaker 2: has to consider all of your history here and he said,
Speaker 2: a hit, this is this is an important phrase, and
Speaker 2: we went, oh, no, a history of good works can't
Speaker 2: wash away the record in this case, which shows that
Speaker 2: you abuse the power and control over the lives of
Speaker 2: women who you professed to love.
Speaker 1: We heard that though, whoa uh, oh, this is this
Speaker 1: is not going his way.
Speaker 2: And then when he said this was subjugation, and it
Speaker 2: drove both Miss Ventura and Jane to thoughts of ending
Speaker 2: their lives. That was significant. I thought, my goodness, he's
Speaker 2: actually almost accusing him of attempted murder in a way.
Speaker 2: That was what he's like, You are responsible for their
Speaker 2: feelings of suicide. And so then he went on to
Speaker 2: say the court is not assured that if released, these
Speaker 2: crimes will not be committed again. That one was a doozy.
Speaker 1: You said it earlier, and it's weird to say this
Speaker 1: about this particular judge on brand. This dude has been consistent,
Speaker 1: isn't that all You really want to be treated You
Speaker 1: want to be treated fairly, but you want a guy
Speaker 1: to be consistent. And he has been consistent because they
Speaker 1: have been asking and asking and asking since this trial
Speaker 1: started in beforehand. Please let did he go home. We'll
Speaker 1: do anything you want, give any money, you want, any ankle, monitoring,
Speaker 1: any security. Just let him go home. And every turn
Speaker 1: the judge said, nope, I am not convinced this dude
Speaker 1: ain't a threat.
Speaker 2: He also, this was really powerful when the judge rejected
Speaker 2: the idea that Diddy was a casual consumer of prostitution services.
Speaker 2: You know, they were trying to say that he was
Speaker 2: an amateur, a John or an amateur porn producer, whatever
Speaker 2: they were trying to say. But the judge said this,
Speaker 2: you were no John. You were more than that. Even
Speaker 2: if your currency was satisfying your sexual desires instead of money.
Speaker 2: That hit because that was the big argument with the defense.
Speaker 2: He didn't profit from this. He didn't earn money from
Speaker 2: from putting his girlfriends out or having some sort of process.
Speaker 2: There was no there was no financial gain from him
Speaker 2: for him, and so the judge said, your currency was
Speaker 2: satisfying your sexual desires. And honestly, that did ring true.
Speaker 1: And this is all star starting to pile up. We
Speaker 1: were sitting and watching we just we had and we
Speaker 1: wanted to say thank you to CBS, to CNN, to
Speaker 1: New York Times, Post, New York Times, at the NBC News.
Speaker 1: We had all five of y'all's live feeds up and
Speaker 1: we were depending on those reporters to give us infos
Speaker 1: that we want to say thank you to you all,
Speaker 1: and we're passing this stuff along. But as we were
Speaker 1: keeping up robes, the judge like are We were like,
Speaker 1: holy hell, he is about to really throw the book
Speaker 1: at this guy. But then he took moments and what
Speaker 1: he was saying to acknowledge that Diddy is influential, that
Speaker 1: he is iconic, that he has been good to the community.
Speaker 1: So this is where it turned, and we thought, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe he's balancing this thing out, Maybe it won't be
Speaker 1: so bad.
Speaker 2: He acknowledged that it was impressive what he had been
Speaker 2: able to accomplish in the fact that his father had
Speaker 2: died in early violent death and the trauma that must
Speaker 2: have been left, So he was acknowledging what did he
Speaker 2: had been through as a child. But then he said
Speaker 2: his sentence was going to send a message to abusers
Speaker 2: and victims alike that exploitation and violence against women is
Speaker 2: met with real accountability. We were up and down, like
Speaker 2: he's gonna go No, he's gonna go hard. Well, maybe
Speaker 2: he's gonna give him a break. Oh my god, No,
Speaker 2: he's gonna throw the We were back and forth because
Speaker 2: the judge really did cover so many different bases when
Speaker 2: he was leading up to the sentencing.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people might have applauded that sentence.
Speaker 1: You're making that sentence, and that sentiment like, I actually
Speaker 1: do need to send a message legally speaking? Is that
Speaker 1: a part of I mean, the judge had discretion in
Speaker 1: what he could do. He knew the guidelines, but he,
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, thought it was important to say that.
Speaker 1: I know, he acknowledged that everybody's watching this and think
Speaker 1: that these victims have not been heard, that haven't been respected.
Speaker 1: And he added that line, I think to cover a
Speaker 1: lot of basis.
Speaker 2: He did so. Yes, he sentenced Sean Comes to fifty months.
Speaker 2: He imposed a fine of half a million dollars. But
Speaker 2: then I actually really loved what this judge did next.
Speaker 2: First he addressed Cassie Ventura, and he says, and the
Speaker 2: other brave survivors that came forward, I want to say, first,
Speaker 2: we heard you. I thought that was pretty cool, he said,
Speaker 2: I am proud of you for coming to the court
Speaker 2: to tell the world what really happened. You weren't just
Speaker 2: speaking to the twelve folks in the jury box. You
Speaker 2: were speaking to the millions of women out there who
Speaker 2: have been victims, but who feel invisible and powerless and
Speaker 2: have had to suffer in silence. You gave them a voice.
Speaker 2: You stood up to power. It's not easy. You told
Speaker 2: those women in the world that violence behind closed doors
Speaker 2: doesn't have to stay hidden forever. The number of people
Speaker 2: who you reached is incalculable. There are millions of survivors
Speaker 2: out there. Most of those people will never speak up
Speaker 2: about their abuse. The consequences are often tragic, as they
Speaker 2: were in this case. I know you still bear the
Speaker 2: trauma of what happened to you. You likely always will.
Speaker 2: But what you've taught us here by coming forward is
Speaker 2: that even if you were a victim, you don't always
Speaker 2: have to be. That gave me chills.
Speaker 1: He didn't have to say that. That was powerful. He
Speaker 1: gets it. He didn't have to say that. He chose
Speaker 1: to say that. To say those words, and not just
Speaker 1: to the women in this case, he sent that message
Speaker 1: to the women of this country.
Speaker 2: And as kind as he was to them, and as
Speaker 2: reassuring he was to the people out there who are victims,
Speaker 2: he also then softened his tone towards Ditty next, and
Speaker 2: I thought that was also pretty cool for him to
Speaker 2: be able to strike that balance between both the victims
Speaker 2: and then Ditty himself. And he told Diddy, there is
Speaker 2: light at the end of this tunnel. You and your
Speaker 2: family will get through this. I thought that was a
Speaker 2: cool thing to say, as well, knowing and noting that
Speaker 2: Diddy was visibly disappointed and visibly upset about what had happened.
Speaker 1: Tough day for that family, and just an awful, I
Speaker 1: mean awful couple of decades of experiences around Sean Dittycomb's
Speaker 1: someone who, yes, I have looked up to since I
Speaker 1: was in high school, and to be sitting here reporting
Speaker 1: about this, I think none of us expected anything like this.
Speaker 1: But it is a tragedy all around. Yeah, it's a tragedy.
Speaker 1: We talked about this with the story with the raising
Speaker 1: money for the family of the shooter, and right there
Speaker 1: are victims all around, including a two year old baby
Speaker 1: whose daddy is going to who has been who's going
Speaker 1: to end up in prison more than she's been alive
Speaker 1: correct by the time he gets out. Right, So there
Speaker 1: are victims all around. This is just a sad, awful
Speaker 1: story for everybody. Who do you feel sorry for? You're
Speaker 1: not supposed to have sympathy for him, but this isn't
Speaker 1: This is another I'm thinking about all these stories and
Speaker 1: downfalls of powerful people. We've learned so much and I
Speaker 1: don't know what we're gonna get from this later, but Robes,
Speaker 1: I have had some conversations here on the podcast with
Speaker 1: you about this story. I've had very I've had private
Speaker 1: conversations with you about this, but there there are important conversations,
Speaker 1: and I don't know what we're going to do and
Speaker 1: what people are going to do with this because it
Speaker 1: was all jokes about baby oil and whatnot. This is
Speaker 1: such an important story and experience that we have all
Speaker 1: just done. We've witnessed, I mean, Cassie, the victims we
Speaker 1: went through, who is really a victim? Like, what do
Speaker 1: we learn now that we can now apply to the
Speaker 1: next story and the next victim and the next person
Speaker 1: who speaks out? What can the next powerful man learn
Speaker 1: about this type of thing? And you shouldn't have to
Speaker 1: learn from this, You shouldn't do this type of behavior.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying this is just I'm kind of glad
Speaker 1: it's over, but I am hopeful but also nervous about
Speaker 1: the lessons that we're going to learn from.
Speaker 2: It's funny you just said that because I loved the
Speaker 2: judge's last line, because it was hopeful and it was
Speaker 2: about lessons. He said directly to Diddy, you will have
Speaker 2: a chance to show your children and the world what
Speaker 2: real accountability, change and healing can look like. Court is adjourned.
Speaker 1: Man it just doesn't have to start today with you
Speaker 1: being home.
Speaker 2: And maybe it shouldn't.
Speaker 1: What a story, what a life? What an experience? What
Speaker 1: an extraordinary individual? What a downfall? We say, now Rose,
Speaker 1: But the story isn't over. Is there a contribution shown
Speaker 1: Ditty Combs can make to the community moving forward? The
Speaker 1: answer is yes, it actually is. Yeah, whatever he decides
Speaker 1: to do. But in the interim, in the short term,
Speaker 1: one of the most iconic individuals to ever participate in
Speaker 1: hip hop is gone. It's over, it's done. That part
Speaker 1: of his life is over. What's the next part? Is
Speaker 1: it going to be a contribution?
Speaker 2: It could be a beautiful second half of his life.
Speaker 2: It could be he's fifty five, he'll be out when
Speaker 2: he's fifty seven to fifty eight. He has potentially another
Speaker 2: four decades to do good in the world and to
Speaker 2: be the man that he says he wants to be
Speaker 2: that he's becoming through all of this, and we're rooting
Speaker 2: for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the probably people hear that and go, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, no, this is a human story. Cassie moves
Speaker 1: her family out of New York for fear of this guy.
Speaker 1: You got Jane, you got Mia, We've heard these horrific stories.
Speaker 1: Their lives go now rope. Do they feel a sense
Speaker 1: of relief or are they freaking out encircling the calendar
Speaker 1: of when he's going to get out because they're still worried? Right,
Speaker 1: lives were forever changed by this. Look our lives. I
Speaker 1: could not believe we're sitting here. Our whole day has been.
Speaker 2: This, Yes, but I have I feel like I've been
Speaker 2: on a roller coaster. I know you have too, But
Speaker 2: I do feel like these are the moments where we
Speaker 2: can make a decision to learn from all of this,
Speaker 2: to learn from others' mistakes, to reflect within, to think
Speaker 2: about the things we've done that we're not proud of,
Speaker 2: and just choose to do better and be better. We're
Speaker 2: going to fall down, but I do think that I
Speaker 2: believe in redemption. I do believe in rehabilitation. I don't
Speaker 2: think anyone is a lost cause. Very few people there
Speaker 2: are some, of course, But I do choose to believe
Speaker 2: that there could be good that comes out of this.
Speaker 1: Well, folks, it has been a hell of a ride,
Speaker 1: but there you are. Sean Diddy Combs has been sentenced
Speaker 1: to fifty months in prison. That's four years and two months.
Speaker 1: He has served about thirteen fourteen months already, so he'll
Speaker 1: get credit for that time served, so that means about
Speaker 1: three years he is expected to still be in prison.
Speaker 1: This has been a at times, robes those day and
Speaker 1: day outs of the listenings of the trial was hard
Speaker 1: to stomach.
Speaker 2: It was it was, but we got through it, and
Speaker 2: I do think we're all the wiser for it. And
Speaker 2: I do think that those women, those very strong women,
Speaker 2: that is not easy to do what Cassie did, to
Speaker 2: do what Jane did, to do what the other victims did,
Speaker 2: and under that kind of scrutiny, with that kind of pressure,
Speaker 2: with the world watching about a man that a lot
Speaker 2: of people love, admire, respect and don't want to believe
Speaker 2: the worst of like that is a very tough position
Speaker 2: to be in. And I applaud them, and I hope
Speaker 2: that it doesn't deter anyone else who's the victim of
Speaker 2: abuse to come forward, because I do feel like today's
Speaker 2: verdict was a victory in believing people when they talk
Speaker 2: about what they've been through and they have the courage
Speaker 2: to speak up and to speak out, And so I
Speaker 2: do think that we did gain a lot throughout this,
Speaker 2: even though, it was a very difficult road to travel.
Speaker 2: So with that, thank you for listening to us. Everyone
Speaker 2: I made me Roeboch alongside TJ. Holmes. We'll talk to
Speaker 2: you soon.