1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Hey, there are folks. It is Friday, October third. Sean 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: Diddy Combs will be in prison for another three plus years. 3 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Ropes. We 4 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: need some context here. We just got the sentencing for 5 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: Sean Didty Combs. He has been sentenced to four years 6 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: two months in jail. Fifty months total is what we got. 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: Now he's spent fourteen in jail already. There's time served 8 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: and all this stuff or good behavior, But the bottom line, folks, 9 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: is that Sean Didty Combs is going to be in 10 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: prison for years to come. 11 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: That's correct, and in fact, there have already been speculation 12 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: that if he has good behavior, he could possibly get 13 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: out in two and a half years. But it is 14 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 2: certainly not what Sean Combs wanted. That's not what his 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: defense team wanted, and he seemed he didn't seem he 16 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: seemed disappointed. I guess that's probably the best way to 17 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: put it when the verdict was read. But I know 18 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 2: that many of you who are following along and watching 19 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 2: the judges comments as they were coming down through some 20 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: of those live reports from reporters in the courtroom, many 21 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: of us present party included thought that the judge was 22 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: going to go even harsher, was going to add even 23 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: more years. I was actually, in a sense relieved because 24 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: I thought he was going to throw the book at 25 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: him by what he was saying leading up to the 26 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 2: actual sentencing. 27 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: And to a certain degree, Shan Ditecombs and his lawyers 28 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: might feel like the book has been thrown at them 29 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: at him because they were asking for fourteen months. He's 30 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: been in prison for thirteen months already during the trial, 31 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: so it's almost a time serve situation, and they are 32 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: in their minds thinking about him being home maybe immediately 33 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: or at least in time for the holidays, is what 34 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: we're talking about. Ropes. This was a big dramatic moment 35 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 1: today when it was revealed that he had speaking engagements 36 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: lined up five six of them at a nonprofit that 37 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: works with incosts are in people. So it was still 38 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: supposed to be something he was giving back to the community, 39 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: but it was revealed during his sentencing hearing that this 40 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: man whose life is on the line and going possibly 41 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: to prison for years. 42 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: Is already planning being free. 43 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: Judge can't feel good about that now, No end good. 44 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: Calls, and because we had people who were in the 45 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: courtroom watching. He actually his head snapped up, I believe 46 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: is how they described it when the prosecutors dropped that bomb. 47 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: And I do think that was a moment where he thought, oh, no, 48 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: that's not good. And it certainly was not a good 49 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 2: look to have someone who was facing up to eleven 50 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 2: but maybe even twenty years behind bars already planning or 51 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 2: assuming that he could be free in a week. And 52 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 2: so that was not a good look. And it spoke 53 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: to I even said to you, do you think his lawyers, 54 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: people close to him convinced him made him believe that 55 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: he was actually going to be free after this hearing? 56 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: The answer has to be maybe, or even probably. 57 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: Look that look, some of us there was a lot 58 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: of conversation around the possibility of him going home today 59 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: and if we thought it, you know, that was best 60 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: case scenario. Maybe thought it was pie in the sky, 61 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: but there was some part of him who thought that. 62 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: And you do not make possible plans for next week 63 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: and the next two weeks in Miami if you think 64 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: you're going to prison for a long. 65 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: But you were shocked when you heard that. I was 66 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: shocked when I heard that. I don't think any one 67 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: of us actually thought that was highly likely. Yes, there 68 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: was a chance, but it was a chance. So it 69 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: was very shocking to hear that he actually thought it 70 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: was significantly more than a chance, enough to actually schedule 71 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 2: potential speeches outside of prison as a free man in Miami, 72 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: starting to go ahead and give back to the community, 73 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: moving past a prison sentence. That was fairly shocking to me. 74 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: The context there. Yes, the prosecution kind of dropped that 75 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: bomb and let everybody know he had these speaking engagements. 76 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: It comes out and in fact it was a nonprofit. 77 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: Then his attorney explained it later by saying, yeah, we 78 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: want him to have things to do or to look 79 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: forward to, or to have an anticipation for. Is how 80 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: they explained it. Fine either way, at the end of 81 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: the day, it didn't matter much to this Judge Robes. 82 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: We sat here, this is how it happened today in court. Look, 83 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: we didn't know how long this thing was going to go. 84 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: This was an all day affair. 85 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: We did not anticipate that at all. 86 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: We didn't think they were going to have a lunch break. 87 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: And then they took a lunch break and said, oh, 88 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: we need to get settled in here for a little bit, 89 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: but a key component. We had an earlier episode where 90 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: we're explaining what happened previously in court, but here we 91 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: just want to go through what did he said and 92 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: what the judge said. So they requested, I don't know 93 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: if this happens, but the judge granted it. The defense asked, hey, 94 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: I know the prosecution has a rebuttal coming, so they 95 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: were going to get to have a rebuttal to everything 96 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: the defense did. They said, but we would like and 97 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: we asked that Sean Diddy Combs be allowed to speak 98 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: after the prosecution rebuttal. Point there being the last person 99 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: the judge got to hear from today before he made 100 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: his decision was Sean Diddy Combs. 101 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 2: That's right, and he had a twelve minute speech so 102 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: to speak to the court where he first of all 103 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 2: thanked the judge in the court for giving him the 104 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 2: opportunity to finally speak, and he talked about how that 105 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 2: was one of the most difficult parts about the entire trial, 106 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,679 Speaker 2: was not being able to express He said, how sorry 107 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: I am for my actions. I want to thank you 108 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: for giving me the chance to finally speak up for myself. 109 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: So we said being quiet, staying quiet was incredibly difficult, 110 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: and he did start off with an apology, which I 111 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 2: did think was the right call. He apologized for any 112 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 2: harm or hurt that he caused Cassie ventur Fine. He 113 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 2: also apologized to Jane, saying that that's of course a 114 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 2: pseudonym for one of his former girlfriends, that he was 115 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 2: sorry that I brought you into my mess. He also 116 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: apologized to all victims of domestic violence, citing the video 117 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 2: that we all saw that was played at nauseum during 118 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: trial of him beating ventur A Cassie Ventur Fine in 119 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen that we saw last year, but certainly was 120 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: the centerpiece perhaps of the prosecution's case against him when 121 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,239 Speaker 2: it came to the violence in which he was able 122 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: to control Cassie and other women. 123 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: That was We've mentioned that again and I said to 124 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: you a moment ago, I mean, he's gotten people going 125 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: to talk about this. Yes, he was sentenced to four 126 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: years and two months officially for transportation to participate in prostitution. 127 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: And I said to you, a lot of people had 128 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: an issue with him doing a lot of time for 129 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: crimes that he wasn't convicted of, and even in the 130 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: hearing today the judge said, I am going to allow 131 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: conduct that you weren't convicted of to be a factor 132 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: in my sentencing for you, I said to you about 133 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: that video. Man, if everybody was speculating, he's probably gonna 134 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: get five years six to everybody. Whoever, if you're listening 135 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: right now, you've had a conversation with somebody saying, what 136 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: do you think he's gonna get four years two months 137 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: that video alone? If you told me you want to 138 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: give him four years, two months, five years, six years 139 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: just for the video of what we saw happening with 140 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: Cassie Venturo, I don't know how you could make an 141 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: argument against that. 142 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: I think most people would be okay with that, and 143 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: especially in the context of that was just one moment, 144 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: that was just one day, that there were countless incidents 145 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: that were similar to that that we didn't see, that 146 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: we would never see. That only she could describe that, 147 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: only she lived through. So but to actually have that 148 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: physical proof that we could actually witness with our own eyes, 149 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: you can't unsee it, and seeing how brutal it was, 150 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: how vicious it was, I do believe that the sentence 151 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: that was handed down today, I agree with you by 152 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: just looking at that video, I don't think many people 153 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: could argue that that wasn't a just sentence, even if 154 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: it were just for that particular singular moment. 155 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: Just as a human being, You're not that was just awful. 156 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: That's going to stick with all of us. But just that, 157 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: and again, a lot of the legales we don't understand 158 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: and what's right and the man act and all this 159 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: back and forth. What we understand is not all the 160 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: racketeering and all No, what we understand is that this 161 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: man we see beating a woman, This man we hear 162 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: in court day and day out. A lot of this 163 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: was not disputed. Harassing, abusing, assaulting. 164 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: Threatening women, yes, and people right kicking someone while they're down. 165 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: I mean, that is kind of one of the lowest 166 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 2: things you can do to someone. And that is actually 167 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 2: what we witnessed. 168 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: And again, I know his family is hurting, but on 169 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: a human level, And even if you don't understand all 170 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: the legal back and forth, you don't have a problem 171 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: saying this is unjust like he got too much. You're 172 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 1: not going to say that. You can make an argument 173 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: he didn't get enough. But it's difficult to make an 174 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: argument right Robes that yes, he's got too much time 175 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: with the judge was too harsh on. 176 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 2: I think that that is a very fair way to 177 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: look at it. I mean, everyone's going to have their 178 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 2: individual opinion, but I do think that, and again, I 179 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 2: think the judge was building it up. We were actually 180 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: at the edge of our seats looking and refreshing to 181 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: get the court room reporters like minute by minute, blow 182 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: by blow, what's happening in court, And when you were 183 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 2: hearing what the judge was saying, it seemed as though 184 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 2: he was going to be much harsher. 185 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm sure. 186 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, he might actually get 187 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: ten years, he might get seven years. We were really 188 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: thinking that. So then when he ended up saying fifty months, 189 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: it actually felt like a little bit of a relief, like, Okay, 190 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: it's not going to be that much. And then when 191 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 2: we really processed it, it actually felt pretty fair. 192 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: Can you say a relief? Not that we wanted him 193 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: to get what I'm saying, what you were saying, and 194 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what you're saying that we for a 195 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: moment while the judge was speaking, said, holy hell, he's 196 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: going to give him more than the eleven Yes, like 197 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: he was sounding that harsh yes to where we thought 198 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: Diddy was going away for a long decades. 199 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: He could have been sent away for twenty years period. 200 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 2: That absolutely could have happened, and that was within the 201 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: judge's discretion to do that. So it was possible. 202 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: So Didy in making his what was it twelve minutes, 203 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: they said it was well. They spoke to the judge. 204 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: He said, I asked your honor for the chance to 205 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 1: be a father again. I asked your honor for the 206 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: chance to be a son again. I asked your honor 207 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: for the chance to be a leader in my community again. 208 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: I asked for a chance to get the help that 209 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: I desperately need to become a better person, because I 210 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: don't want to let God down. I don't want to 211 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: let my family down. I would have robes that I 212 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: can't imagine what this was like to hear him speak 213 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: in that quote room. 214 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: He actually used the word beg. He begged the judge 215 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 2: for mercy. That was a very humble moment. I do 216 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 2: appreciate what he said as well, when he said I 217 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: can't change the past, but can change the future. And 218 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: that's when he said, I asked your honor for mercy. 219 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 2: I beg your honor for mercy to be a father again, 220 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: a son again, and be a leader in my community again, 221 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 2: and get the help I desperately need. So that I 222 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 2: thought that was a heartfelt moment. When he, you know 223 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 2: I mentioned in the episode earlier, like some of his 224 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: pleas for mercy, with some of the highly produced video 225 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: that he sent and some of the things he said 226 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 2: in his letter, I was a little bit turned off by. 227 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: But I do think he did humble himself in front 228 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: of the court. Not that it meant that he should 229 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 2: have gotten off or away or let out immediately, but 230 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: I do think that it did feel heartfelt. It did 231 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 2: feel authentic. 232 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: The judge though, as we mentioned, he certainly built this 233 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: thing up, and there was anticipation, and you could tell, 234 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: really almost robes from the moment the hearings started this 235 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: morning at ten o'clock. Things were not gonna go Sean 236 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 1: diddy Combe's way. And then once we did start hearing 237 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: from the judge, right before he was going to announce 238 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: the fifty months sentence, you would have been convinced that 239 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: this judge was about to throw the book. Yep. Isn't 240 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: that the phrase yes, throw the book at Diddy, We'll 241 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: tell you stay here after the break what the joke 242 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: judge said that had us thinking, did he was gonna 243 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: go away for eleven, twelve, fifteen years? Even? Stay here? 244 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: All right, folks, we continue now, Seawan Didty Combs fifty 245 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: months in prison? That is his sentence. That equates to 246 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: four years and two months. Do the math with the 247 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: thirteen almost coming up on fourteen months he's already done, 248 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: that would mean about another three years in prison for 249 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: Sean did He Combs. I don't know the math. Good behavior, 250 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: but you've been looking into this. He could potentially get 251 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: out two and. 252 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: A half years, is what a lot of folks think. 253 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 2: He'll be in prison for another thirty months or so, 254 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: give or take. 255 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: All right, So that is what we know now of 256 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: this whole ordeal. Yes, Shawn Combs is going to PRIs 257 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 1: this medium mogul, the guy who has who literally was 258 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: a part of changing the game and music changing what 259 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: hip hop, taking hip around the world. This guy is 260 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: an icon in the industry and one of the biggest 261 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: self made entrepreneurs we have ever seen in hip hop. 262 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: Is going to prison for three years excuse me, forty. 263 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 2: Fifty months, fifty months, but so it'll be a total four. Yes. 264 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure I continue to stay clear. 265 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: Now the judge when he started, so did he got 266 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: to speak. He was the last person to speak before 267 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: the judge got to speak. And roads when the judge started, 268 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: our eye rives started like wait, whoa wait, and then 269 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: every update we got was worse than the last one. 270 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: Correct or did he at least yes? Because he said, yes, 271 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: I'm considering the fact that you're a self made artist. 272 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 2: I'm considering the fact that you've inspired and lifted up 273 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 2: your community. He noted his philanthropic work, his devotion to 274 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 2: his family, his work battling his own drug addiction. But 275 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 2: this is when you get the butt. However, the court 276 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: has to consider all of your history here and he said, 277 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: a hit, this is this is an important phrase, and 278 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: we went, oh, no, a history of good works can't 279 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 2: wash away the record in this case, which shows that 280 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 2: you abuse the power and control over the lives of 281 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 2: women who you professed to love. 282 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: We heard that though, whoa uh, oh, this is this 283 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: is not going his way. 284 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: And then when he said this was subjugation, and it 285 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 2: drove both Miss Ventura and Jane to thoughts of ending 286 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 2: their lives. That was significant. I thought, my goodness, he's 287 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: actually almost accusing him of attempted murder in a way. 288 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: That was what he's like, You are responsible for their 289 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: feelings of suicide. And so then he went on to 290 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: say the court is not assured that if released, these 291 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 2: crimes will not be committed again. That one was a doozy. 292 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: You said it earlier, and it's weird to say this 293 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: about this particular judge on brand. This dude has been consistent, 294 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: isn't that all You really want to be treated You 295 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: want to be treated fairly, but you want a guy 296 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: to be consistent. And he has been consistent because they 297 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: have been asking and asking and asking since this trial 298 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: started in beforehand. Please let did he go home. We'll 299 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: do anything you want, give any money, you want, any ankle, monitoring, 300 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: any security. Just let him go home. And every turn 301 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: the judge said, nope, I am not convinced this dude 302 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: ain't a threat. 303 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 2: He also, this was really powerful when the judge rejected 304 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 2: the idea that Diddy was a casual consumer of prostitution services. 305 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: You know, they were trying to say that he was 306 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: an amateur, a John or an amateur porn producer, whatever 307 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: they were trying to say. But the judge said this, 308 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: you were no John. You were more than that. Even 309 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 2: if your currency was satisfying your sexual desires instead of money. 310 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 2: That hit because that was the big argument with the defense. 311 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: He didn't profit from this. He didn't earn money from 312 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: from putting his girlfriends out or having some sort of process. 313 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 2: There was no there was no financial gain from him 314 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: for him, and so the judge said, your currency was 315 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: satisfying your sexual desires. And honestly, that did ring true. 316 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,479 Speaker 1: And this is all star starting to pile up. We 317 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,479 Speaker 1: were sitting and watching we just we had and we 318 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: wanted to say thank you to CBS, to CNN, to 319 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: New York Times, Post, New York Times, at the NBC News. 320 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: We had all five of y'all's live feeds up and 321 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: we were depending on those reporters to give us infos 322 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: that we want to say thank you to you all, 323 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: and we're passing this stuff along. But as we were 324 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: keeping up robes, the judge like are We were like, 325 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: holy hell, he is about to really throw the book 326 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: at this guy. But then he took moments and what 327 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: he was saying to acknowledge that Diddy is influential, that 328 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: he is iconic, that he has been good to the community. 329 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: So this is where it turned, and we thought, oh, 330 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: maybe he's balancing this thing out, Maybe it won't be 331 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: so bad. 332 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: He acknowledged that it was impressive what he had been 333 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 2: able to accomplish in the fact that his father had 334 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: died in early violent death and the trauma that must 335 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 2: have been left, So he was acknowledging what did he 336 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 2: had been through as a child. But then he said 337 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 2: his sentence was going to send a message to abusers 338 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 2: and victims alike that exploitation and violence against women is 339 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 2: met with real accountability. We were up and down, like 340 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 2: he's gonna go No, he's gonna go hard. Well, maybe 341 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 2: he's gonna give him a break. Oh my god, No, 342 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 2: he's gonna throw the We were back and forth because 343 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: the judge really did cover so many different bases when 344 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 2: he was leading up to the sentencing. 345 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people might have applauded that sentence. 346 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: You're making that sentence, and that sentiment like, I actually 347 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: do need to send a message legally speaking? Is that 348 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: a part of I mean, the judge had discretion in 349 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: what he could do. He knew the guidelines, but he, 350 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, thought it was important to say that. 351 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: I know, he acknowledged that everybody's watching this and think 352 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: that these victims have not been heard, that haven't been respected. 353 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: And he added that line, I think to cover a 354 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: lot of basis. 355 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 2: He did so. Yes, he sentenced Sean Comes to fifty months. 356 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 2: He imposed a fine of half a million dollars. But 357 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 2: then I actually really loved what this judge did next. 358 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: First he addressed Cassie Ventura, and he says, and the 359 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 2: other brave survivors that came forward, I want to say, first, 360 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 2: we heard you. I thought that was pretty cool, he said, 361 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 2: I am proud of you for coming to the court 362 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 2: to tell the world what really happened. You weren't just 363 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 2: speaking to the twelve folks in the jury box. You 364 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: were speaking to the millions of women out there who 365 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 2: have been victims, but who feel invisible and powerless and 366 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 2: have had to suffer in silence. You gave them a voice. 367 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 2: You stood up to power. It's not easy. You told 368 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 2: those women in the world that violence behind closed doors 369 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: doesn't have to stay hidden forever. The number of people 370 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: who you reached is incalculable. There are millions of survivors 371 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: out there. Most of those people will never speak up 372 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 2: about their abuse. The consequences are often tragic, as they 373 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 2: were in this case. I know you still bear the 374 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 2: trauma of what happened to you. You likely always will. 375 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 2: But what you've taught us here by coming forward is 376 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 2: that even if you were a victim, you don't always 377 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 2: have to be. That gave me chills. 378 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: He didn't have to say that. That was powerful. He 379 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: gets it. He didn't have to say that. He chose 380 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,959 Speaker 1: to say that. To say those words, and not just 381 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: to the women in this case, he sent that message 382 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: to the women of this country. 383 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: And as kind as he was to them, and as 384 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: reassuring he was to the people out there who are victims, 385 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 2: he also then softened his tone towards Ditty next, and 386 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 2: I thought that was also pretty cool for him to 387 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 2: be able to strike that balance between both the victims 388 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 2: and then Ditty himself. And he told Diddy, there is 389 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 2: light at the end of this tunnel. You and your 390 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: family will get through this. I thought that was a 391 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 2: cool thing to say, as well, knowing and noting that 392 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 2: Diddy was visibly disappointed and visibly upset about what had happened. 393 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: Tough day for that family, and just an awful, I 394 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: mean awful couple of decades of experiences around Sean Dittycomb's 395 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: someone who, yes, I have looked up to since I 396 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: was in high school, and to be sitting here reporting 397 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: about this, I think none of us expected anything like this. 398 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: But it is a tragedy all around. Yeah, it's a tragedy. 399 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: We talked about this with the story with the raising 400 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: money for the family of the shooter, and right there 401 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: are victims all around, including a two year old baby 402 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: whose daddy is going to who has been who's going 403 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: to end up in prison more than she's been alive 404 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: correct by the time he gets out. Right, So there 405 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: are victims all around. This is just a sad, awful 406 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: story for everybody. Who do you feel sorry for? You're 407 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: not supposed to have sympathy for him, but this isn't 408 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: This is another I'm thinking about all these stories and 409 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 1: downfalls of powerful people. We've learned so much and I 410 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: don't know what we're gonna get from this later, but Robes, 411 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: I have had some conversations here on the podcast with 412 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: you about this story. I've had very I've had private 413 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: conversations with you about this, but there there are important conversations, 414 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: and I don't know what we're going to do and 415 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: what people are going to do with this because it 416 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,239 Speaker 1: was all jokes about baby oil and whatnot. This is 417 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: such an important story and experience that we have all 418 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: just done. We've witnessed, I mean, Cassie, the victims we 419 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: went through, who is really a victim? Like, what do 420 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: we learn now that we can now apply to the 421 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: next story and the next victim and the next person 422 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: who speaks out? What can the next powerful man learn 423 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: about this type of thing? And you shouldn't have to 424 00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: learn from this, You shouldn't do this type of behavior. 425 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: But I'm saying this is just I'm kind of glad 426 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: it's over, but I am hopeful but also nervous about 427 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: the lessons that we're going to learn from. 428 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 2: It's funny you just said that because I loved the 429 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 2: judge's last line, because it was hopeful and it was 430 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: about lessons. He said directly to Diddy, you will have 431 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 2: a chance to show your children and the world what 432 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: real accountability, change and healing can look like. Court is adjourned. 433 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: Man it just doesn't have to start today with you 434 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: being home. 435 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 2: And maybe it shouldn't. 436 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: What a story, what a life? What an experience? What 437 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: an extraordinary individual? What a downfall? We say, now Rose, 438 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: But the story isn't over. Is there a contribution shown 439 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: Ditty Combs can make to the community moving forward? The 440 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: answer is yes, it actually is. Yeah, whatever he decides 441 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: to do. But in the interim, in the short term, 442 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: one of the most iconic individuals to ever participate in 443 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: hip hop is gone. It's over, it's done. That part 444 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: of his life is over. What's the next part? Is 445 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: it going to be a contribution? 446 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: It could be a beautiful second half of his life. 447 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 2: It could be he's fifty five, he'll be out when 448 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 2: he's fifty seven to fifty eight. He has potentially another 449 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 2: four decades to do good in the world and to 450 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 2: be the man that he says he wants to be 451 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 2: that he's becoming through all of this, and we're rooting 452 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: for him. 453 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the probably people hear that and go, wait 454 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: a minute, no, this is a human story. Cassie moves 455 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: her family out of New York for fear of this guy. 456 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: You got Jane, you got Mia, We've heard these horrific stories. 457 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: Their lives go now rope. Do they feel a sense 458 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: of relief or are they freaking out encircling the calendar 459 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: of when he's going to get out because they're still worried? Right, 460 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: lives were forever changed by this. Look our lives. I 461 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: could not believe we're sitting here. Our whole day has been. 462 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 2: This, Yes, but I have I feel like I've been 463 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 2: on a roller coaster. I know you have too, But 464 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 2: I do feel like these are the moments where we 465 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 2: can make a decision to learn from all of this, 466 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: to learn from others' mistakes, to reflect within, to think 467 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 2: about the things we've done that we're not proud of, 468 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 2: and just choose to do better and be better. We're 469 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: going to fall down, but I do think that I 470 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 2: believe in redemption. I do believe in rehabilitation. I don't 471 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 2: think anyone is a lost cause. Very few people there 472 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 2: are some, of course, But I do choose to believe 473 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 2: that there could be good that comes out of this. 474 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: Well, folks, it has been a hell of a ride, 475 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: but there you are. Sean Diddy Combs has been sentenced 476 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: to fifty months in prison. That's four years and two months. 477 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: He has served about thirteen fourteen months already, so he'll 478 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: get credit for that time served, so that means about 479 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: three years he is expected to still be in prison. 480 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: This has been a at times, robes those day and 481 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: day outs of the listenings of the trial was hard 482 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: to stomach. 483 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 2: It was it was, but we got through it, and 484 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 2: I do think we're all the wiser for it. And 485 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 2: I do think that those women, those very strong women, 486 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 2: that is not easy to do what Cassie did, to 487 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 2: do what Jane did, to do what the other victims did, 488 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 2: and under that kind of scrutiny, with that kind of pressure, 489 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 2: with the world watching about a man that a lot 490 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 2: of people love, admire, respect and don't want to believe 491 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 2: the worst of like that is a very tough position 492 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 2: to be in. And I applaud them, and I hope 493 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 2: that it doesn't deter anyone else who's the victim of 494 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 2: abuse to come forward, because I do feel like today's 495 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 2: verdict was a victory in believing people when they talk 496 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 2: about what they've been through and they have the courage 497 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 2: to speak up and to speak out, And so I 498 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 2: do think that we did gain a lot throughout this, 499 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 2: even though, it was a very difficult road to travel. 500 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 2: So with that, thank you for listening to us. Everyone 501 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 2: I made me Roeboch alongside TJ. Holmes. We'll talk to 502 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: you soon.