WEBVTT - Gavin a Good Time Part 2

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<v Speaker 1>This is How Men Think with Brooks Like and Gavin

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<v Speaker 1>DeGraw and I heard radio podcast. Welcome to another episode

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<v Speaker 1>of How Men Think. My name is Brooks, Like, Yes

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<v Speaker 1>it is? And your name good sir, just co host,

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Mr Gavin DeGraw. What's your middle name? What's your

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<v Speaker 1>middle name? Um? It rhymes with name name lame dame,

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<v Speaker 1>nailed it. That's Gavin. That's our producer. What is your

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<v Speaker 1>middle name? How come I don't know this? Shane Gavin,

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<v Speaker 1>Shane de Graw, Shane doesn't run with name, okay, but

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<v Speaker 1>singer songwriter. Yeah, it's a soft ru My middle name

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<v Speaker 1>is Brooks. Oh yeah, your first name is something else.

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<v Speaker 1>We know this and so that's perfect because it's just

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<v Speaker 1>boss like, I love very easy. Makes you really like

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<v Speaker 1>the name Brooks? Producer Dan, what is it? What is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Evan Brooks like because we've had the book Flights for you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>no kidding. My very first name is Evan, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can call me Brooks keV. Let's call you ev True story.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was in like grade three, I changed my

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<v Speaker 1>name to Evan for like a week. I was like, mom,

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<v Speaker 1>I was going through I think I went through like

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<v Speaker 1>an identity crisis grade three because I changed my name

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<v Speaker 1>from Brooks. I was like, Mom, I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>call me Evan. And I also changed from wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>be a professional hockey player to wanting to be a

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<v Speaker 1>professional tennis player. Why did you go by Brooks? By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, true story. My dad's favorite baseball player was

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<v Speaker 1>Brooks Robinson, and he thought he'd he'd love you more

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<v Speaker 1>if he went by Brooks. I don't know, and so

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to call me Brooks, and my mom wanted

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<v Speaker 1>the name Evan, and they thought that Evan Brooks sounded

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<v Speaker 1>better than Brooks even who wouldn't fight Evan or Brooks

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<v Speaker 1>Brooks stuffer Evans Evan sounds a little more studious. But

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<v Speaker 1>true story, So I don't want to have a spelling

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<v Speaker 1>be against him. Do you know who Brooks Robinson is?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know who? He was? Hall of Fame third

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<v Speaker 1>baseman for the Baltimore Orioles. He was my dad's favorite

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<v Speaker 1>baseball player back in the day when my dad was

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<v Speaker 1>in in school, he used to take a radio into

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<v Speaker 1>class and listen to the Baltimore Oriole games, and Brooks Robinson,

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<v Speaker 1>oddly enough, was his favorite baseball player. Like this is

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<v Speaker 1>in like the sixties and uh he my dad said.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what, what did you love about Brooks Robinson.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, I loved his approach to the game. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what, this is really interesting. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I got to meet Brooks and I got to throw

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<v Speaker 1>at the first pitch at Camden Yards in Baltimore, and

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<v Speaker 1>I got to meet Brooks and he was he was awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I phoned my dad right after. It was like, Brooks

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<v Speaker 1>Robinson is one of the most humble men I've ever met.

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<v Speaker 1>And he signed a bat for me. Said two, Brooks

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<v Speaker 1>honored to meet you. See you soon, Brooks Robinson Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Fame. Three. He was inducted into the Hall of Fame,

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<v Speaker 1>which was the year I was born. That's amazing. There

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<v Speaker 1>you go. I just made that whole intro about me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. Next time someone who cares. I had to

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<v Speaker 1>feel some space today. I had to feel some space

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<v Speaker 1>because GAV guess what mission? Mission, beautiful story, mission accomplished, Buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we should high five. We finally accomplished our mission.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you washed your hands first? Huh? No flue season? Okay, no,

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<v Speaker 1>our secret mission of getting rid of Rick secret mission.

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Dmitri are these guys today we're missing our other

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<v Speaker 1>three dudes, Rick, Ryan and Dmitri are not here, so

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<v Speaker 1>producer amys in with us. But this is I think

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<v Speaker 1>the first show that you and I have ever done

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<v Speaker 1>just solo. Is that is that true? Yeah, because we've

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<v Speaker 1>always when it just was the two of you, we

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<v Speaker 1>had like Freddie Prince, Yeah, we had a guess Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So finally, Buddy, we did it Boris on this radio island. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So that means I have to do even more lifting

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<v Speaker 1>on this show because by all means have at it.

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<v Speaker 1>But today we're doing. Today, we're doing one of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite things we've ever done. About a month and a

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<v Speaker 1>half or two months ago, whatever it was, we did

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<v Speaker 1>an episode called Gavin A Good Time So creative I love.

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<v Speaker 1>And what we did is we took all our listener questions,

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<v Speaker 1>we printed them out, we cut them up, and we

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<v Speaker 1>put him in a hat and then we drew from

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<v Speaker 1>the hat. And there were two rules when we played

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<v Speaker 1>this game. There were two rules. The first rule you

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<v Speaker 1>cannot skip a question. Whatever question you draw, you cannot skip.

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<v Speaker 1>And the second rule is you have to be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was amazing. That was when we got done

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<v Speaker 1>that podcast. I don't even if you remember it. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we all like high five and fifth bump right after

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<v Speaker 1>we'd like, damn it, that was amazing. We had some

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<v Speaker 1>amazing value today and the listener questions were awesome. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is round two of Gavin A Good Time or

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<v Speaker 1>if you guys had any other I call it come

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<v Speaker 1>to things, maybe we should do Evan a Good Time.

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<v Speaker 1>We could do something close to that. Amy, do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to lead this up? Okay? Amy? So, Amy, you

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<v Speaker 1>are the judge, jury and court martial and all of this.

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<v Speaker 1>You are. You are the host of this, So you

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<v Speaker 1>dictate who gets the question because you're pulling them out

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<v Speaker 1>of the hat. You both get them. Well, who's this leader?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's who's first one? Who are you leading? With you? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>So I can't pass on this. There's no pass Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>dating than breaking up, then reuniting years later and getting

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<v Speaker 1>back together. Thoughts, can it be better the second time around? Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>I've never done that in my life. I've never ever

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<v Speaker 1>done that, But sure, why couldn't it be? I think

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<v Speaker 1>you change as humans. I think you have a great

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<v Speaker 1>foundation of Uh, there's some history there. Um, there's obviously

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<v Speaker 1>some fond memories. There was attraction for one purpose or

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever purpose at some point in time, and then

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it just wasn't the right time of your lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe the attraction is there, but maybe individually and as

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<v Speaker 1>a couple, you just weren't mature enough you had ever

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<v Speaker 1>at the right phase of your life to really under

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<v Speaker 1>stand and also have the ability to communicate what you want,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think I think that goes overlooked, is that

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<v Speaker 1>what you want in life needs to be communicated, and

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes we just lack the skill or ability to properly

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<v Speaker 1>communicate or even process what thoughts we have. And so, um,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe these people have evolved, grown matured and then come

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<v Speaker 1>back into each other's lives at the appropriate time. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all for it, Shane. Yes, Mr Shane, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you said? I couldn't agree more. I think that's so

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<v Speaker 1>well said. Um yeah, coming back into someone's life. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that second time around is great, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a third time is the charm? Really, guys, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>won't go back in it doesn't work that second time.

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<v Speaker 1>Go back the third time when you really got it

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<v Speaker 1>together and be like, all right, I think this is Legitimately.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't live like this, we like each other. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you a quick story. So Tanya rad our friend,

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<v Speaker 1>Tanya Rab, that host scrubbing in love telling you her

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<v Speaker 1>parents were married. I forget for how many years? Let's

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<v Speaker 1>say fifteen years, divorced for ten years, remarried each other,

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<v Speaker 1>have been back together and completely in love for another

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<v Speaker 1>ten years, like better the second time around? Even they

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<v Speaker 1>split up again yet and I don't think they will.

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<v Speaker 1>Next question, why do guys constantly rest their hands in

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<v Speaker 1>their pants? GeV E d previous elisode. All right, that's cool,

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<v Speaker 1>but what is this question in their pants? Like where

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<v Speaker 1>when we're standing, when we're sitting, when I think just

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<v Speaker 1>having our hands And this was honestly an Instagram question,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it's how boys sort of sit, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're watching TV and you kind of sit with

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<v Speaker 1>your hands down your pants a little bit. Oh that's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole Okay, if you see guys in a movie

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<v Speaker 1>and they're sitting there with like ears on the on

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<v Speaker 1>the coffee table and they're watching sports and their hands

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<v Speaker 1>are jammed down their pants and their crotch, that's total bolt,

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<v Speaker 1>really it is. Dudes don't do that. Dudes don't just

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<v Speaker 1>sit there like that. If they are, they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>be something. They're trying to prove something or show something.

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<v Speaker 1>Most if you're a if you're a guy, that's what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Trust me, your nuts, your balls, whatever it gets itchy

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<v Speaker 1>or you need to move it around, you give it

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<v Speaker 1>a scratch. You don't sit there with your hand down

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<v Speaker 1>your pants for thirty minutes. Everybody knows guys really just

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<v Speaker 1>rest with their fingers in their noses. Isn't that what

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to say? You are throwing some in depth

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<v Speaker 1>comments today. I don't disagree with you. I rested my hands,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean kind of in the protective position, but not

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<v Speaker 1>on top of it necessarily not jammed in the pants. No,

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<v Speaker 1>not jammed in the pants. Who does that? Yeah? I don't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's you know what that is. That's sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>um sitcom culture too. It's sort of, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>way men are portrayed to be some kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>over the top slob um, which is I think a

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<v Speaker 1>typical I started the way men tend to be portrayed.

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<v Speaker 1>And also on top of that, I think you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>there are certain guys that celebrate their slabbed them in

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<v Speaker 1>that regard of They think that's the most uh vile

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<v Speaker 1>yet attractive, primal version of self, and that's what should

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<v Speaker 1>be portrayed, you know what I mean. It's actually funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Having having spent my whole life in locker rooms, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny to see it's funny. Yeah, it's funny to

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<v Speaker 1>see guys try and act like guys because they think

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<v Speaker 1>that's what locker room guys do. Like, even even if

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<v Speaker 1>you're at a public gym and somebody's in the men's

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<v Speaker 1>locker room walking around with no towel on, just dick

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<v Speaker 1>swinging everywhere, it's like, put a towel on, man. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>in my whole life, in professional law rooms, you shower

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<v Speaker 1>and then you come out and you put a towel on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just respectful. It's nobody wants to see your jumping.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, oh, there's a locker room, I can do

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<v Speaker 1>what I wanted to get. Yeah, I get that, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's be a gentleman like I have some respect for

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<v Speaker 1>people around. Do you want to stare at my junk?

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<v Speaker 1>Like why are you walking around with no twel or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that? A guy like sticking his hands down

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<v Speaker 1>his pants pretending to be a dude that's not a man. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree enough that. No, let's keep talking about this

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<v Speaker 1>because I think you're right. I think you're spot on.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro good answers. What makes you you, Gavin you Brooks

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<v Speaker 1>feel sexy or desirable as men? Not what do you

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<v Speaker 1>like about a woman, but what makes you feel like, oh, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sexy? Um? Is it supposed to be an object

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<v Speaker 1>like that nice watch, you're like, some kind of clothing

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<v Speaker 1>or could be anything. It's a great compliment makes you

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<v Speaker 1>feel sexy. I think you know when somebody comes over,

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<v Speaker 1>when they make the point to tell you, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking dynamite, or you know, like the other day

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<v Speaker 1>when when Amy was real nice and she said hey,

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<v Speaker 1>what did you do? And I said what did I do?

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like no man looking good? You know, I say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks you. I really appreciate that. That makes you feel good,

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<v Speaker 1>It makes you feel sexy, it makes you you know. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think men really respond to verbal compliments. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't speak for women, of course, but I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 1>women also respond in that regard similarly similarly, Um, But

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<v Speaker 1>men like to be complimented just like anybody else. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>just like just like the females he went. You went

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<v Speaker 1>a totally different way with that than I was gonna go.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna are you gonna go? What can I

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<v Speaker 1>do that makes me feel sexy? That's how it us,

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I interpreted the question. Mine is honestly training, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't train, I don't work out to look a

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<v Speaker 1>certain way, Like I'm not a physique athlete. I trained

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<v Speaker 1>for perform it's to be in amazing shape. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>do body building or like that kind of stuff, like

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at my body, I'm not an Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>model of what you think of like a body. I

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<v Speaker 1>always think that every time you put up something really

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<v Speaker 1>short up like Instagram model exactly. So I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't train for physique, but knowing that I can perform

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<v Speaker 1>athletically just makes me feel I feel sexy. I feel primal,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel athletic, I feel masculine. I feel like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I feel super comfortable. And I think comfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>feeling comfortable and feeling confident make you feel sexy. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's interesting Also that you say that you you

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<v Speaker 1>train to be essentially capable, not not beautiful, right, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's it's ironic too, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of people who a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of uh instagrammable physiques like you, like you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not that functional as far as athleticism is concerned,

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<v Speaker 1>and and and just all you have to do is

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<v Speaker 1>like the body of somebody who's like a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a boxer typically or you know a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>guys who play professional sports. It's not necessarily the sexiest

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<v Speaker 1>what we are, what we're sold as a sexy zeke.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's functional. But also I mean, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have any judgment against that. It's it's not no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean neither. But it's interesting that there's people work

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<v Speaker 1>out for different reason essentially. You know, if somebody wants

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<v Speaker 1>to do yoga if fitness and wellness and is yoga

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<v Speaker 1>to them perfect? If somebody wants to just run long

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<v Speaker 1>distances like American runner, which doesn't build muscle, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>how they feel confident and comfortable perfect. Like I I

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<v Speaker 1>don't judge how anybody lives their life. I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 1>for mine, I love the functionality of performance athleticism. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and that makes me feel confident, which makes me feel sexy. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So if I was to apply that to life, if

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, like you, with my workout routine, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>not confident. All you got a voice of an angel?

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<v Speaker 1>This is a good one. Why do guys hate quote

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<v Speaker 1>dating labels? Like if you say, oh, we're dating or

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<v Speaker 1>we're seeing each other or we're exclusive, they don't like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And they also don't like to be you're my boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>or are you my boyfriend? They don't like labels? Why

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<v Speaker 1>hold on? Maybe I disagree with all of that. I

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<v Speaker 1>completely disagree with that. So in my life and in

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<v Speaker 1>my mind, this is just me. I'm speaking for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Dating somebody is boyfriend girlfriend? So like when you when

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<v Speaker 1>if if I say I'm dating her, Like when Julianne

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<v Speaker 1>and I started dating, I asked Julianne to be my girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>like I asked her, will you be my girlfriend? And

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<v Speaker 1>so they're was no gray area. It wasn't like are

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<v Speaker 1>we a couple? Are we not? Like we went on

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<v Speaker 1>dates and then I wanted to be dating her and

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<v Speaker 1>I asked her to be my girlfriend and she said yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So what happens when someone's dating multiple people? That's going

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<v Speaker 1>to me, that's going on dates? I like when people

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<v Speaker 1>This always confused me because somebody that people have different

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<v Speaker 1>descriptions or definitions of the word dating. So when somebody says, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>well she's dating him, I'm like, what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Like are they boyfriend girlfriend? Oh? No, they just went

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<v Speaker 1>on some dates. It's like, okay, I just I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what. So I'd love to hear from our listeners dating.

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<v Speaker 1>Does it mean you're just casually going on dates with somebody?

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<v Speaker 1>Or does it mean you are exclusive boyfriend girlfriend? What

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<v Speaker 1>does dating mean to you guys? I mean my interpretation

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<v Speaker 1>of it, culturally speaking, dating was always a less serious

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<v Speaker 1>thing versus someone distinction distinctively saying we're going out, we're

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend girlfriend? Oh so going we're going out that. It

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<v Speaker 1>was always kind of that. That was always the way

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard it, you know what I mean? When people

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<v Speaker 1>are like, oh, were I date this someone? A date?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's someone I date, it sounds almost like very

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<v Speaker 1>very casual, you know what I mean? Um? Is it interesting?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe upbringing was the complete opposite. Yea, um, but unless

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying, yeah, we're like we're a couple. Like to me,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know. I think these millennials call it talking.

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<v Speaker 1>They say, oh, we're talking, and I think that means

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<v Speaker 1>they're going on dates. Hook Danielle, a millennial, just answered

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<v Speaker 1>that means hooking up. Talking means hooking up. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know this is you know what I meant? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>the less serious term for dating nowadays it's called hooking up? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>or just hooking up, or or just texting each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Like dating essentially is kind of hooking up versus going

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<v Speaker 1>out with somebody and we're seeing each other. We're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>each other. Is that before dating or that's that's going

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<v Speaker 1>on dates? Is dating? I'm seeing this girl? I hear that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I made a commitment to you and I

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<v Speaker 1>are exclusive. That's dating. Like to me, dating starts once

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<v Speaker 1>I get the phone number. I'm like, hey, what's your name?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I get your phone number? Cool? You're my girlfriend? Wait?

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you going? I didn't know, but I'm now

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<v Speaker 1>your boyfriend? Come back? Everyar the pickup line, like, can

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<v Speaker 1>I at least get a wrong number? Next? What is

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite food someone has cooked for you? M favorite

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<v Speaker 1>food somebody has cooked for me. We're talking like the

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<v Speaker 1>best meal anyone's ever cooked for you. We're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a romantic data. We're talking about like my mom's cooking,

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<v Speaker 1>because my mom's amazing cook. My wife's amazing. Whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>make of the question I of my mom's cooking. She

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<v Speaker 1>makes this thing called cooking. It's a German pie. It's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>We're really cooking now, we're cooking here that My wife

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<v Speaker 1>is a great cook too. She's a really good cook.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's something she makes that you just love? She

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing I bought her, like this recipe box

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<v Speaker 1>thing because we wanted to do some more cooking. So

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<v Speaker 1>you got this like custom recipe box is a long

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<v Speaker 1>time ago. Um, but she's a wizard. She just goes

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<v Speaker 1>in the fridge, grabs a bunch of stuff, puts it

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<v Speaker 1>all together, and it's different every time she cooks, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's amazing. So I can't even pick one. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know as Also, my buddy Christie Swan isn't amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>She does all this Italian stuff. She's an amazing cook. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what could someone cook for you, Gavin? That could like

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<v Speaker 1>be the way to your heart asking for a friend?

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<v Speaker 1>Asking for a friend, Well, first of all, I can't cook.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty useless. In the kid, someone's cooking for you.

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<v Speaker 1>So everything is pretty impressive to me. You know, like

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<v Speaker 1>meat loaves, spaghetti and meatballs, steak, chicken, salad. Cook, let's

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<v Speaker 1>cook that salad. Um man, I don't know. Uh, my

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<v Speaker 1>brother is about the best cook I know. Um so,

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<v Speaker 1>damn man. Pretty much whatever my brother is cooking, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? Just food in general, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I like really flavorful food, spicy. Some people like

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<v Speaker 1>bland more bland food, I like. I like very well

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<v Speaker 1>seasoned food. I like a lot of flavors. Not counting

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<v Speaker 1>your job or your career, what trait do you have

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<v Speaker 1>that you're the most proud of? So I'm assuming whoever

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<v Speaker 1>wrote this that means Gavin can't say singing and you

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<v Speaker 1>can't say hockey. Yeah, mine is easy. I've I've said

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<v Speaker 1>it on this show before, I said, what's I've asked

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<v Speaker 1>the question to um. I think it was when Derek,

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<v Speaker 1>my brother in law, Derek was on. I asked, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>what is your greatest success? And then I asked myself

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<v Speaker 1>that question. Mine is following my instincts. So that is

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite character trait is that I trust myself and

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<v Speaker 1>I follow my instincts. I like that you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I had to say. That's a that's a really special one. Um. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Picking up on people's vibes. I really picked up on

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<v Speaker 1>people's Um. I can't say that I know everybody's intent

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm dealing with them, but oftentimes I really, I

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<v Speaker 1>really do catch it pretty accurate vibe on what what

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<v Speaker 1>their what their intentions are when I when I meet them,

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<v Speaker 1>or if I feel like they're a good or a

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<v Speaker 1>bad person, or if they're extremely awesome or just conniving.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean. Character Um, A lot of times,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I get lucky with that. Go hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>Can I pay you a compliment? Yes? Please? Um, you

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<v Speaker 1>look good in black today. So I believe in every

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<v Speaker 1>in every interaction between two people, there's an exchange of energy.

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<v Speaker 1>Either I get give energy or I take energy. And

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<v Speaker 1>same for you, like either you give me energy or

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<v Speaker 1>you take energy from me. In the time I've known you,

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<v Speaker 1>you've never taken energy from me. You've always given energy.

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<v Speaker 1>So every time I see you, and I hope it

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<v Speaker 1>comes through on this podcast, like we have an awesome

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<v Speaker 1>time to get and we laugh before the show, we

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<v Speaker 1>laughed during the show, we laugh after the show. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think It's an amazing, amazing character trait for a

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<v Speaker 1>human when every time you think of that person and

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<v Speaker 1>that's you in this case, you think of somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>gives you energy than man and to me, you're very

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<v Speaker 1>You really take my energy, and boy, boy, do you

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<v Speaker 1>block me down? An energy vampire? Then you just keep

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<v Speaker 1>coming around for the compliments of your clothes. But but

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<v Speaker 1>this is, but this, I think is why you and

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<v Speaker 1>I work you. Um you you're such a positive guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and I find that so refreshing in the in the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of alpha realm that we rub shoulders in so

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<v Speaker 1>much of the time. It's nice to simply experience positivity

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<v Speaker 1>when you're meeting meeting up with somebody. Know, it's always

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<v Speaker 1>so complimentary, and it's and sincere. You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>You're so genuine. I would say you're You're genuine demeanor

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<v Speaker 1>is one of your greatest attributes. You are a genuine

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<v Speaker 1>person and that's a beautiful quality for real man. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very special. Appreciate you. This one's kind of juicy. I

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<v Speaker 1>did not write it. Would a threesome be something you

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<v Speaker 1>would agree to if your partner asked, wanted it? M okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Vin is eating ice cream. Right now, while we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>the show Man, there's doubling exploding. This is technically it's

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<v Speaker 1>called mochi, and he's eating it and just exploded all

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<v Speaker 1>over his hands. As I'm asking this important questions, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I could. I I just no. I It's

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<v Speaker 1>ask a question again, because all I can think about

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<v Speaker 1>right now is this graba you've had that orge. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the question. Would a threesome be something you would

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<v Speaker 1>agree to if your partner asked or wanted it? So

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing, Like, it's amazing, that's pretty, it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Question right, they're going right? Also, what does your bedroom

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<v Speaker 1>look like? It's amazing? Like how you learn and grow

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<v Speaker 1>and how in a relationship some some things that you

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<v Speaker 1>thought were laws actually aren't. That you you actually become

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<v Speaker 1>flexible and fluid in in many things that you believed

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<v Speaker 1>about a relationship when you're single, and then when you

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<v Speaker 1>get into one, you learn like, oh, like I, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a fixed mindset on that, and now I have

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<v Speaker 1>a growth mindset on that, Like you because you learned

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else's story and why it's important to them, and

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<v Speaker 1>they challenge your point of view and you look at

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<v Speaker 1>things differently in a partnership. UM. That being said, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledge that, but this one, I just I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I could ever get there. I just I can't

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<v Speaker 1>ever see myself being physical with somebody else. Um, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I don't think I can get there. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't. I don't know valid. I think it's tough.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be interested if the partner wanted that to ask

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<v Speaker 1>why totally, Hey, let's bring someone in. Let's bring someone in. Why?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? You know what exactly? You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. I love what he says. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. It's like, hey, can we bring

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<v Speaker 1>a third party in? I'm like like a referee or

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<v Speaker 1>you know what's amazing about this? Um? So, thinking back

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<v Speaker 1>to uh Intimate Knowledge podcast when Megan shared her story

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<v Speaker 1>about this, which I commend her that that woman has

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<v Speaker 1>a tremendous amount of courage for sharing that story. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's immediately what I thought of when I thought

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<v Speaker 1>of this. Uh. And you know what, when I heard

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<v Speaker 1>her story, if anybody hasn't listened to it, I think

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<v Speaker 1>second or third episode the episode of Intimate Knowledge, I

0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:08.639
<v Speaker 1>thought of her too, and like, um, go listen to

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<v Speaker 1>that's another I heard podcast. But she tells a story

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<v Speaker 1>very much of this, and I admire her courage to

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<v Speaker 1>actually that she loved this person enough to pursue something

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<v Speaker 1>that was like very much not a part of her

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<v Speaker 1>and not what she wanted. She didn't want it, and

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<v Speaker 1>then she felt a lot of shame. Um. But also

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<v Speaker 1>there's I see so much courage in that kind of love.

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<v Speaker 1>But then there's the fine balance of like also in love,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to stand up for what you believe in.

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<v Speaker 1>But like it was, her story was amazing. She did

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<v Speaker 1>it for him, and I think she is very She

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<v Speaker 1>was very forward she did it. She was saying, I agreed,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't make me. I agree. But as you see

0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:56.000
<v Speaker 1>how like unselfish that love is and how beautiful that

0:26:56.080 --> 0:27:00.399
<v Speaker 1>love is, like to it is. It is amazing using

0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 1>to think that you love somebody that much that you're

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:06.120
<v Speaker 1>going to do something that you just kind of don't

0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:08.680
<v Speaker 1>agree with or something. But like obviously it didn't just

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:10.679
<v Speaker 1>happen where she snapped her fingers said, Okay, let's go

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 1>with this. There's probably discussions, but I just have an

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:17.400
<v Speaker 1>appreciation if you just hear her story and hear her

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:21.240
<v Speaker 1>tell it on the Intimate Knowledge podcast. It's actually fascinating. Wow.

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean I listen, I I didn't hear that, uh

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 1>that podcast. So I can't really speak for that person,

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:32.679
<v Speaker 1>uh specific scenario. But as far as sexuality goes, I can't.

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I can't. I can't see enjoying an activity that your

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:46.720
<v Speaker 1>partner isn't enjoying. And to bring in a third party

0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 1>that the other I mean, just the idea of that

0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 1>if someone if someone was going to bring in a

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 1>third party and the person that loves them it doesn't

0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:59.720
<v Speaker 1>really want that, I can't see getting I wouldn't be

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:04.919
<v Speaker 1>able to see any pleasure in that. Like, that's to

0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:12.359
<v Speaker 1>me so weird that someone would even risk making the

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 1>person that they love feel that uncomfortable potentially care for it.

0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:21.720
<v Speaker 1>And and um, I think and and and it's it's

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:26.120
<v Speaker 1>it's so it takes advantage so much of that person's

0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 1>feelings for you to subject them to that, to the

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 1>memory of that moment potentially that they didn't want to

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 1>be a part of. And if that person was in

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:43.400
<v Speaker 1>a relationship, if that other person was in a relationship

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 1>with you, and they wanted to explore things and they

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:47.600
<v Speaker 1>had a very candid conversation with you, like, hey, I'm

0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 1>not sure if this is for me, this and that

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 1>I want to go blah blah blah. I say, all right,

0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 1>you could. I could understand a couple saying let's take

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 1>a break, you know, you go chase down whatever you

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 1>need to chase down in your life and figure it

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:01.200
<v Speaker 1>out and maybe we'll meet up somewhere down the road.

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 1>I can't see trying to convince somebody to bring into

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:11.480
<v Speaker 1>a third party if I mean, this is so far out,

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 1>like it's so it's so far out anyway, just the

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 1>concept of it so far out. But if they were

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 1>into that and trying to convince someone who isn't into

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 1>it to be into it, um, that's just a bridge

0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 1>too far um in my opinion, because you're putting at

0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 1>risk that other person's sanity for for you, and taking

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 1>advantage of their emotions for you, because they'll go to

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:45.160
<v Speaker 1>the ultimate extremes to accommodate you, to the point where

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you're just taking advantage of their love.

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:53.400
<v Speaker 1>That was Sometimes you say things that are so beautifully profound.

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 1>That's very nice of you, but I just can't see

0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:59.600
<v Speaker 1>doing that. But don't you love the whole, Like you

0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 1>can just feel it in the studio when he goes

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 1>into he goes into this deep like pocket of thoughtfulness

0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 1>and mindfulness and share something that's just incredibly profound and noble.

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:13.520
<v Speaker 1>And because it's such a sort of a oh, let's

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Speaker 1>have a threesome, like it's a conversation that's made very

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 1>light of I find and it's sort of not that

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 1>it's common, but it's sort of a common fantasy type

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:27.800
<v Speaker 1>of thing. And then you both really thought about it

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 1>and understood the complexities of what it would really mean.

0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 1>There's also another thought to this topic is, um, who's

0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 1>I listened to? Who? Where? Where? Did I hear this?

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:47.080
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing nothing dirty can exist between two people in love.

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 1>I saw that too, And so because people it's called

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:55.800
<v Speaker 1>dirty talk or dirty time, and it shouldn't be called dirty.

0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Like I've shared this on this show many times, Like

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 1>a big part of my journey in he's exploring my sexuality.

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:03.560
<v Speaker 1>And by that I don't mean if I'm gay or straight.

0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:07.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, in my sexual relationship, what is my

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 1>sexuality and and what am I craving? And what are

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:14.640
<v Speaker 1>my desires? And what are my wife's and like how

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 1>can we have this language to feed each other in

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:23.960
<v Speaker 1>and get everything we want and be sexually expressed to

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 1>the nth degree and everything. And then I'm so glad

0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 1>you brought that up because we learned from Viviana, Dr

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Viviana months and months ago that sexuality is all about

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 1>what you just said. It's not about like gay, straight

0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:43.480
<v Speaker 1>this that it's about the overall, all encompassing sort of

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe what we'd call a sex life or something like that. Yeah,

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:50.520
<v Speaker 1>it's when you look at the words. Sexuality by definition

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 1>is capacity for sexual feelings. That's the definition of the word.

0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 1>But when you say sexuality culture society thinks it's gay

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:03.320
<v Speaker 1>or it's like, no, I don't like some people are

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 1>figuring that out. That's fine, But like my journey is

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 1>is discovering and learning and figure out my capacity for

0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 1>sexual feelings, which in my life have been very low

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 1>on the priority list. I woke up as an athlete,

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 1>wanted to train, wanted to eat, sleep, rest, perform, and

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 1>priority or a sexuality was way below all of that

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 1>for the majority of my life. And now I've discovered

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:31.720
<v Speaker 1>this and through leelad Deville, through Viviana, through Jaya, through

0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:34.960
<v Speaker 1>doing this show, and also through my wife who is

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:37.280
<v Speaker 1>exploring a lot of this as well and brought a

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:39.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of this to to like shared a lot of

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:43.320
<v Speaker 1>this with me, and has perked my interest in UM

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 1>through this show, like I've been exposed to a beautiful

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 1>new side of life that I never ever explored or

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 1>thought to explore before, and it's amazing for me. It's connection.

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:55.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I'm interested to see what Gavin says,

0:32:55.760 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 1>but sexuality is a connection on level that's so far

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 1>beyond just your normal connection with people. It takes that

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 1>interaction and connection with one other person to just an

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 1>extreme he's processing over here. I mean, I don't know

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 1>if it's kind of what you guys are saying. I

0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 1>think that question right now because I'm just I'm like

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 1>really soaking up what you know your personal does anyone

0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:33.680
<v Speaker 1>in the room. We have a couple of other married people,

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:35.240
<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to put anyone on the spot,

0:33:35.360 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 1>but maybe tor too. Is anyone in this room open

0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 1>to a threesome? So when you know when you're younger,

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:49.400
<v Speaker 1>when you're younger, like as a as a teenage guy

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 1>or an early twenties guy, like that's that's all. That's

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:54.840
<v Speaker 1>on your brain, like you're as a young dude, you're

0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 1>you're just thinking of like exploring and like that would

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 1>sound amazing. And then once you grow and you get

0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:05.239
<v Speaker 1>some emotional capacity and some emotional intelligence like you and

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 1>in this stage of my life, like I'm looking for

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:13.239
<v Speaker 1>a deeper connection and romance, not well on topic of love,

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:16.239
<v Speaker 1>looking for love and connection. And on top of that,

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:24.920
<v Speaker 1>with that connection and with that that the emotional and physical, um,

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:28.759
<v Speaker 1>the combinations that happened with that, and and you know,

0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 1>you're tapping into nerve endings and you're tapping into that

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:38.000
<v Speaker 1>thing that cannot be touched your scene, And I mean,

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:41.440
<v Speaker 1>what more would you need but one person in that moment?

0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean everything else would sound like you were multitasking.

0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:47.399
<v Speaker 1>It would be like, oh, this is incredible, hold on,

0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:50.200
<v Speaker 1>this person needs attention to over here, you know, like

0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 1>that it's so far, that's so weird. And um, you know,

0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:58.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean you know, when you're when you're intimate with

0:34:58.480 --> 0:35:04.399
<v Speaker 1>someone who you have great feeling for, um, they are

0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:10.560
<v Speaker 1>all that you want in that moment and after that, yeah, yes, yes,

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:18.319
<v Speaker 1>and you are fulfilled. Um and and so um, I

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:24.760
<v Speaker 1>can't see the I can't see the experience with more

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 1>than one person in a room like, I can't. I

0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:31.440
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be able to do that, do you know what

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean? Yeah, I wouldn't. That's a fascinating purpose of

0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:42.640
<v Speaker 1>the physical element of things to just elevate, just elevates

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:45.720
<v Speaker 1>all the things that could not be said or and

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:52.160
<v Speaker 1>and that connection is so the physical part of what

0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 1>happens is just it's an extension of all of those

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 1>emotions and and those and all the ways you see

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:04.320
<v Speaker 1>ida in all these other capacities of your life together. Right, amazing,

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 1>well said brother Amy. Next question, this is a left turn,

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 1>But how do you feel about couples therapy? Sure? Why not?

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Like you couples go to you want a better diet, like,

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:24.360
<v Speaker 1>have a dietitian come in, you want a better body,

0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 1>have a trainer? Like? Why can people not do it

0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:31.280
<v Speaker 1>for their relationship? I think that's actually a sign of health,

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:35.839
<v Speaker 1>not trouble. So many people think if like, oh, people

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:39.960
<v Speaker 1>are going to therapy, like even individually, even individually, if

0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:42.919
<v Speaker 1>an individual goes to therapy, there's a stigma that there's

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:46.080
<v Speaker 1>something wrong with this person, that they are broken or

0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:49.400
<v Speaker 1>they need to be fixed. And I've been to therapy

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:52.400
<v Speaker 1>it's awesome. The first time I went to therapy was

0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 1>last year because I was wanting to work through hockey stuff,

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 1>to to be able to release and let go of

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:01.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the angst and frustration and resentment and

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:05.560
<v Speaker 1>unfulfilled dreams or goals that I had with hockey. And

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:07.880
<v Speaker 1>I sat down with this guy and he says, have

0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:09.520
<v Speaker 1>you ever been to therapy? And I was like, no,

0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 1>He goes. It fascinates me when professional athletes, the amount

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 1>of pressure that you guys are under that you don't

0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 1>have somebody to voice your emotions and feelings with. I

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:25.720
<v Speaker 1>cannot believe that you have never had therapy in your life.

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:28.000
<v Speaker 1>And and then I talked with him and I was like,

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:31.080
<v Speaker 1>this was the greatest thing. It was just a conversation

0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:34.279
<v Speaker 1>about what I was feeling, what I was thinking. And

0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 1>the term therapy has such a negative connotation culturally, and

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:42.360
<v Speaker 1>that's for an individual, and I believe that's for a

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 1>couple as well. Instead of they're broken or in trouble,

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 1>they're actually healthy because they are working to have the

0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:53.800
<v Speaker 1>best life or relationship possible. I see I see it

0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:56.440
<v Speaker 1>as a sign of strength and health. Yeah, I don't

0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:58.719
<v Speaker 1>started to disagree with you there. I think I think

0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:03.319
<v Speaker 1>someone who cares enough to go to therapy it's a

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 1>sign that there at least sane enough to know that

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:11.759
<v Speaker 1>they need help. Y um. Although I would say that,

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think it's I would even say strong

0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:17.239
<v Speaker 1>enough to say they want wants, maybe not need, but

0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 1>want help. I agree with you, And I also think

0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:23.799
<v Speaker 1>that people also have to bear in mind that that

0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:25.799
<v Speaker 1>there's going to be better and worse versions of that,

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 1>and there's gonna be people who are more or less

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 1>gifted at that with you, So I don't think necessarily

0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:35.360
<v Speaker 1>that someone goes to a therapy session necessarily finds the

0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:37.920
<v Speaker 1>right person to talk to, you know what I mean.

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:39.920
<v Speaker 1>They may have to go to more than one person

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 1>to find the person that is the right therapist for them,

0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:46.560
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Because let's let's be let's

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:49.239
<v Speaker 1>be clear, and let's be fair. A therapist as a

0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 1>human being, and and we all know as human beings

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:56.919
<v Speaker 1>that some of us are better or worse at our professions,

0:38:57.000 --> 0:38:58.920
<v Speaker 1>and we all know that there's people who are better

0:38:59.000 --> 0:39:01.480
<v Speaker 1>at the same profession and that we do, and there's

0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna be people better at that profession that you may

0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:06.799
<v Speaker 1>go to. So you know there's better singers out there

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:08.840
<v Speaker 1>in the world than I am. I know that. So

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:11.879
<v Speaker 1>there's going to be better therapists out there than maybe

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:14.279
<v Speaker 1>the one that you're going to right now, you know,

0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:19.120
<v Speaker 1>and and so um, I think that's also fair to say,

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 1>and something to keep in mind. You might not find

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:23.680
<v Speaker 1>the right one right away. It may take you a

0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:26.480
<v Speaker 1>bit important, you know what. You know? What else is

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:28.560
<v Speaker 1>what I did. But I do understand the stigma with it,

0:39:28.600 --> 0:39:31.400
<v Speaker 1>and I do understand the apprehensions of doing it, I

0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:35.560
<v Speaker 1>really do, you know. You know, people talk, even professionals.

0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:38.799
<v Speaker 1>You know. What I like about like a therapist is

0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:43.439
<v Speaker 1>they have they have tools and a skill set. So

0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:45.840
<v Speaker 1>if you have a problem or an issue or something

0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:47.680
<v Speaker 1>you want to resolve, that's why you go there. You

0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 1>have something you want to resolve. They can come at

0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 1>it and a couple of different ways with different activities

0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 1>or skills or questions or things that they can do

0:39:56.360 --> 0:40:00.319
<v Speaker 1>to really help you get some clarity on that. That's

0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:02.680
<v Speaker 1>and that's where I think they're super valuable. They've been

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:05.960
<v Speaker 1>trained in that element and that's really helpful when you

0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 1>have something you're trying to work through, a resolve or

0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:10.319
<v Speaker 1>figure out to get clarity. The other thing that I

0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:16.759
<v Speaker 1>think is cool about going to therapists is that if

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:19.560
<v Speaker 1>you ever do under in a therapy session, know that

0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:23.799
<v Speaker 1>whoever you're talking to the therapist is always crazier than

0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 1>you are. Well, you're the one paying them to be there.

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:31.359
<v Speaker 1>So are you sure I've had there? Because that really

0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:34.799
<v Speaker 1>changed my life? Have you guys? Yeah? I have. I

0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 1>have one that I've seen for this for hockey, I've

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:39.840
<v Speaker 1>had actually multiple people. I don't know if i'd call

0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:43.640
<v Speaker 1>them therapists. UH can call them performance coaches, can call

0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 1>them whatever you want. But like people that have helped me,

0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:49.279
<v Speaker 1>even mentors, you call mentors people that have helped me

0:40:49.800 --> 0:40:53.640
<v Speaker 1>work through some of my personal stuff with my sport

0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:58.479
<v Speaker 1>and wanting wanting to release any sort of like any

0:40:58.480 --> 0:41:02.680
<v Speaker 1>sort of chains or remnants are or um anything it

0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:05.239
<v Speaker 1>still has grip that it has on me so I

0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:09.319
<v Speaker 1>can smoothly, efficiently and like happily transition to a new

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:11.239
<v Speaker 1>phase in my life. You know what? I think? It's

0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:14.880
<v Speaker 1>also when people are talking about who they speak to,

0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:16.759
<v Speaker 1>what they say, why they don't want to go to

0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 1>their therapist or talk to somebody, And I understand that

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:22.600
<v Speaker 1>because I don't go to therapist. But I do have

0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:27.960
<v Speaker 1>conversations with people, you know, and uh, and I know therapists. UM.

0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:30.200
<v Speaker 1>It kind of reminds you this conversation I had one

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:34.560
<v Speaker 1>time with this preacher and I'm sitting in this uh,

0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:40.680
<v Speaker 1>in this place, and he says me, tell me about

0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:48.240
<v Speaker 1>your relationship with God. And at that time, I says, uh.

0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:52.680
<v Speaker 1>I said to him, what relationship with God? And uh

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:55.960
<v Speaker 1>he said, well, what do you mean? And I said, well,

0:41:56.760 --> 0:42:00.680
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I believe, but I feel like I

0:42:00.760 --> 0:42:03.919
<v Speaker 1>just feel uncomfortable going to churches now. And he said

0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:06.760
<v Speaker 1>why and I said, just I feel like I've messed

0:42:06.840 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 1>up so many times. I feel guilty when I walked

0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:15.839
<v Speaker 1>through the doors. And and he says, uh, tell me more.

0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:17.560
<v Speaker 1>And I told him some more. I said, I feel

0:42:17.560 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 1>like I did this wrong, I did that wrong, I

0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:24.080
<v Speaker 1>did this, and I did that. And we spoke for well.

0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:26.759
<v Speaker 1>I spoke for several minutes at this man, very nice man.

0:42:27.360 --> 0:42:29.000
<v Speaker 1>And then he said to me, when I was done

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:36.799
<v Speaker 1>with my little spiel and my my guilt, he said

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:44.200
<v Speaker 1>to me, look at me, he said, he said, do

0:42:44.320 --> 0:42:49.759
<v Speaker 1>I look phased? I said no. He said, do you

0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:53.080
<v Speaker 1>think that maybe I haven't done all those same things.

0:42:54.520 --> 0:43:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I said, I don't know, he said, he said, do

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:04.120
<v Speaker 1>I look like I haven't heard all of those exact

0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:08.480
<v Speaker 1>same things before and maybe done all of those same

0:43:08.480 --> 0:43:12.279
<v Speaker 1>things before. I said, I don't know. He said, I

0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:16.320
<v Speaker 1>just want you to know everything you're saying. It's completely normal.

0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:23.360
<v Speaker 1>I hear this all the time. Mhm and uh. I

0:43:23.360 --> 0:43:27.720
<v Speaker 1>would say that that was a form of therapy. Yeah,

0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:30.600
<v Speaker 1>and so I would say that there's many different types

0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:35.160
<v Speaker 1>of therapists and let's not give them necessarily a title.

0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Just know that they said, there are many different types

0:43:38.560 --> 0:43:42.080
<v Speaker 1>of people who do this type of emotional work. And

0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:44.480
<v Speaker 1>essentially what I'm saying is the help is out there

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:47.799
<v Speaker 1>for people who were looking for it, and there's a

0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:52.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of different ways to start that conversation. Amen. You know,

0:43:52.680 --> 0:44:01.400
<v Speaker 1>well done is insecurity unattractive, but hey, but full disclosure,

0:44:01.400 --> 0:44:04.759
<v Speaker 1>we all have it. I have it, full disclosure. We

0:44:04.920 --> 0:44:08.279
<v Speaker 1>all have insecurities. We all have it, we all do.

0:44:08.320 --> 0:44:12.359
<v Speaker 1>Couldn't agree more. Um, And it's actually, it's actually can

0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:16.480
<v Speaker 1>be super beautiful when you see that in somebody, Like

0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:20.440
<v Speaker 1>when you see somebody is insecure about something and it's okay,

0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:23.279
<v Speaker 1>like you, That's part of being in a relationship, you

0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:26.280
<v Speaker 1>learn each other's insecurities and you try and support people

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:29.239
<v Speaker 1>to each other through it and stuff. Um, but when

0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:33.720
<v Speaker 1>the when the insecurity is almost a reeking of desperation,

0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:38.719
<v Speaker 1>that's when it's unattractive. Insecure, Like if you put me

0:44:38.800 --> 0:44:41.919
<v Speaker 1>up on stage next to Gavin to sing like I'm

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:45.360
<v Speaker 1>the world's worst singer, like I'm gonna be our dancing

0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:47.960
<v Speaker 1>like my wife is a world champion dancer. I'm not

0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 1>a dancer. I am a dance I should say that

0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I am a dancer, but I'm not a trained dancer.

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:55.640
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, there's like an insecurity side. Take off my

0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:58.719
<v Speaker 1>shirt next to Brooks and my stomach and you know,

0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't have an eight pack. That's more like a

0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:06.680
<v Speaker 1>pony gig. But people that embrace their insecurities, that's a

0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:10.520
<v Speaker 1>that's actually such a beautiful and courageous and like and

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:14.960
<v Speaker 1>like it's an amazing thing. But then people that try

0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:18.839
<v Speaker 1>their insecurities have a reek of desperation or they try

0:45:18.880 --> 0:45:22.200
<v Speaker 1>and overcompensate for them or something that that's actually a

0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:26.040
<v Speaker 1>turn off. Is self deprecation unattractive to you? Or is

0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:29.640
<v Speaker 1>it attractive to you? I like self deprecating humor. Yeah,

0:45:30.040 --> 0:45:34.759
<v Speaker 1>and so I think sometimes there there are versions of Right,

0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:38.640
<v Speaker 1>we were just talking about this, Brad Pitt has just

0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:43.399
<v Speaker 1>figured out well because he's so self deprecating and he's

0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:46.239
<v Speaker 1>so smart and witty and funny that it just makes

0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:49.480
<v Speaker 1>you love him more. I'm good actor too, you know.

0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:51.719
<v Speaker 1>And he know he's not just a pretty face. You know,

0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:55.040
<v Speaker 1>he earned his success. He's got lots of talent. I

0:45:55.040 --> 0:45:59.960
<v Speaker 1>would leave Gavin and the gutter immediately. But what if

0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I like bursting the door with the Legends of the

0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Fall music playing behind me and blowing against me? So

0:46:07.239 --> 0:46:11.200
<v Speaker 1>the you know, I think that there are many different

0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:15.040
<v Speaker 1>versions of this, this sort of Uh, I'm just thinking, like,

0:46:15.440 --> 0:46:17.400
<v Speaker 1>you don't even know, but you and Amy are dating,

0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:21.239
<v Speaker 1>like Abi's amis. Aby's probably telling you about our boyfriends

0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:24.319
<v Speaker 1>in town. Just gotta think with their boyfriend tonight, you know.

0:46:24.360 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 1>But it's just a podcast with you you don't even know. Well.

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:36.080
<v Speaker 1>I think I think that that that the when people

0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:40.920
<v Speaker 1>are insecure, you know, some people wear it on their sleeve,

0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:44.719
<v Speaker 1>their insecurities. Some people have really overcompensate for the insecurity.

0:46:44.760 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 1>I think I think a lot of it has to

0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:49.240
<v Speaker 1>do with how we're seeing them get through their insecurities

0:46:49.280 --> 0:46:53.520
<v Speaker 1>because how we how they conquer or at least deal

0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 1>with their insecurities is very telling about the other parts

0:46:57.040 --> 0:47:00.320
<v Speaker 1>of their personality type. And the thing is that we

0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:03.719
<v Speaker 1>may or may not be attracted to you know. Um

0:47:03.960 --> 0:47:06.879
<v Speaker 1>great point can add something there when when people when

0:47:06.920 --> 0:47:11.920
<v Speaker 1>people deal with their insecurities with lashing out, yeah, with anger,

0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:15.960
<v Speaker 1>with like like they just lash out. It's like, hey,

0:47:16.360 --> 0:47:18.960
<v Speaker 1>you can just like you don't need to do that,

0:47:19.080 --> 0:47:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Like we're not judging, you know, like and I don't know,

0:47:24.400 --> 0:47:30.080
<v Speaker 1>it's just that's that's a really unattractive energy. Yeah, agreed, agreed,

0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:33.640
<v Speaker 1>or like you know, just too much, just way too

0:47:33.680 --> 0:47:36.240
<v Speaker 1>much opulence or whatever. There's a lot of different ways

0:47:36.239 --> 0:47:38.080
<v Speaker 1>of I mean, you know, when you come come to

0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:41.680
<v Speaker 1>a town like like Los Angeles and um, you know,

0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:47.759
<v Speaker 1>you got for a walk and you know it's you

0:47:47.800 --> 0:47:54.000
<v Speaker 1>can hit a Bentley with you know, with with with

0:47:54.160 --> 0:47:56.400
<v Speaker 1>a rock just by lobbying it in the air, it

0:47:56.440 --> 0:47:58.480
<v Speaker 1>will land on a Bentley around here, you know, just

0:47:58.560 --> 0:48:00.719
<v Speaker 1>toss a rock up in the air and probably land

0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:03.120
<v Speaker 1>on a Bentley, you know what I mean, Like everybody's

0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:06.279
<v Speaker 1>driving a Bentley, don't get it wrong, beautiful car, but

0:48:06.320 --> 0:48:11.480
<v Speaker 1>there's so much of that, and I think the the

0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:15.960
<v Speaker 1>the having so much wealth on the surface really helps

0:48:16.040 --> 0:48:22.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of create that, um uh, that feeling of I

0:48:22.600 --> 0:48:24.680
<v Speaker 1>don't have enough money, Like when you go out on

0:48:24.719 --> 0:48:26.880
<v Speaker 1>the street, like oh god, it's like, oh god, everybody's

0:48:26.920 --> 0:48:31.720
<v Speaker 1>driving at two vehicle and I think it can really

0:48:31.800 --> 0:48:33.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of wear a lot of people out. I remember

0:48:33.600 --> 0:48:36.279
<v Speaker 1>when I first came out to Los Angeles, I just

0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:41.080
<v Speaker 1>got my record deal, and I guess, by all you know,

0:48:41.239 --> 0:48:45.440
<v Speaker 1>intensive purposes, I I was no longer broke, you know,

0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:47.319
<v Speaker 1>because I had a record deal, but I wasn't I

0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:50.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't have really money to speak of, and I felt

0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:57.320
<v Speaker 1>absolutely so poor and um so outclassed, and I didn't

0:48:57.360 --> 0:49:00.480
<v Speaker 1>fit in. I felt like I couldn't afford anything around here.

0:49:00.560 --> 0:49:04.640
<v Speaker 1>I felt I felt I felt like I just felt

0:49:04.680 --> 0:49:08.320
<v Speaker 1>like a broke kid, you know, just because there was

0:49:08.400 --> 0:49:10.680
<v Speaker 1>so much wealth on the surface here and I had

0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:15.439
<v Speaker 1>great insecurity about that, um And at the same time,

0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:17.400
<v Speaker 1>I have to say, on the other side of that coin,

0:49:20.800 --> 0:49:25.839
<v Speaker 1>it was motivational. So I think that insecurities also can

0:49:26.280 --> 0:49:32.040
<v Speaker 1>become your weapon, because your insecurities also become your driving

0:49:32.040 --> 0:49:34.680
<v Speaker 1>force a lot of times, and so I think it's

0:49:35.120 --> 0:49:38.200
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say celebrate your insecurities, because you know, I

0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:40.400
<v Speaker 1>don't think, oh yeah, I don't like this about me.

0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:43.080
<v Speaker 1>I'll just tell everybody that I love that about me.

0:49:43.400 --> 0:49:45.480
<v Speaker 1>I think it's I don't like this about me. I

0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:49.200
<v Speaker 1>can conquer this thing, or I can find something that

0:49:49.320 --> 0:49:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm great at to compensate for that thing and allow

0:49:54.080 --> 0:49:56.120
<v Speaker 1>that to be the focal point of my life. And

0:49:56.160 --> 0:49:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I think so and a lot of ways, I think

0:49:58.000 --> 0:50:01.480
<v Speaker 1>that insecurities are just ultimately, at the end of the

0:50:01.560 --> 0:50:06.120
<v Speaker 1>day good. They're good weapons for you to find a

0:50:06.160 --> 0:50:10.680
<v Speaker 1>goal and to conquer the things that are essentially uh

0:50:11.239 --> 0:50:13.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of holding you down in any way. Do you

0:50:13.840 --> 0:50:17.440
<v Speaker 1>ever remember in like grade three where there's a like

0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:21.440
<v Speaker 1>girl in grade three, like with her hand on the desk,

0:50:21.560 --> 0:50:24.839
<v Speaker 1>like just blue eyes staring at the teacher. So like

0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:33.279
<v Speaker 1>that's Amy all day to day, both equally bringing the

0:50:33.800 --> 0:50:36.440
<v Speaker 1>bringing the goods. Today, I will say that I think

0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:38.960
<v Speaker 1>our podcast has gotten better. I think our intent and

0:50:39.040 --> 0:50:42.960
<v Speaker 1>purpose has leveled up with our shows. I am I'm

0:50:43.000 --> 0:50:47.080
<v Speaker 1>so happy I said that. I agree in everybody stepped

0:50:47.200 --> 0:50:51.080
<v Speaker 1>up and has been more honest, more vulnerable, no sugarcoating,

0:50:51.120 --> 0:51:00.399
<v Speaker 1>none of that. Bs, I hate. This is a good one.

0:51:00.440 --> 0:51:03.200
<v Speaker 1>What is your biggest pet peeve with your significant other

0:51:03.520 --> 0:51:10.000
<v Speaker 1>or someone you have dated in the past insecurity, I'll

0:51:10.000 --> 0:51:12.480
<v Speaker 1>tell you one that I don't like. I'll tell you

0:51:12.480 --> 0:51:18.279
<v Speaker 1>one that I don't like. The inability to apologize. That's

0:51:18.320 --> 0:51:23.120
<v Speaker 1>a great pet peeve of mine, because the only way

0:51:23.360 --> 0:51:28.279
<v Speaker 1>I feel you can hit the reset button in scenarios

0:51:28.280 --> 0:51:31.480
<v Speaker 1>that aren't going great with somebody is if you can

0:51:31.520 --> 0:51:34.960
<v Speaker 1>sort of both sort of take a step back, apologize

0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:39.480
<v Speaker 1>to each other, and then kind of start again with

0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:41.640
<v Speaker 1>whatever you know, on a new topic, on a new

0:51:42.640 --> 0:51:46.080
<v Speaker 1>week or whatever. That is. So the inability of someone

0:51:46.160 --> 0:51:49.160
<v Speaker 1>to say I'm sorry, is it? Really that's a big

0:51:49.200 --> 0:51:54.040
<v Speaker 1>one for me. I'm thinking deeply on this and actually

0:51:54.080 --> 0:51:57.400
<v Speaker 1>when I because I don't want to just give a

0:51:57.400 --> 0:52:00.880
<v Speaker 1>surface level answer, I want to when I think about it,

0:52:00.960 --> 0:52:03.520
<v Speaker 1>I think, and I'm not saying this is my present

0:52:03.560 --> 0:52:06.839
<v Speaker 1>relationship and I'm sure I'm just saying exactly what you said.

0:52:07.719 --> 0:52:12.640
<v Speaker 1>When somebody has an inability to listen to understand what

0:52:12.760 --> 0:52:18.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying and they immediately reply with something defensive, that

0:52:19.040 --> 0:52:21.640
<v Speaker 1>to me is a real pet peeve. It's like, no,

0:52:21.760 --> 0:52:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to communicate something that's very important to me.

0:52:25.760 --> 0:52:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Don't attack me and get defensive based off emotion. Please

0:52:29.200 --> 0:52:33.200
<v Speaker 1>try and understand what I'm saying and raise my hand

0:52:33.280 --> 0:52:37.520
<v Speaker 1>here guilty of doing it. We've all done that, of course,

0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:41.359
<v Speaker 1>how I learned. Everybody has listen to understand, don't listen

0:52:41.440 --> 0:52:45.880
<v Speaker 1>to reply. Yeah, I agree, I agree. I think we've all.

0:52:45.920 --> 0:52:47.800
<v Speaker 1>I think we've all done that. Show it was so

0:52:48.040 --> 0:52:52.920
<v Speaker 1>good today. Okay. So you know the other thing is like,

0:52:53.239 --> 0:52:56.040
<v Speaker 1>like you're saying with this communication, like you're saying, listen

0:52:56.120 --> 0:53:01.320
<v Speaker 1>to understand, not to reply. I also think because a

0:53:01.680 --> 0:53:06.920
<v Speaker 1>great level of lost things being lost in translation via text.

0:53:08.280 --> 0:53:10.680
<v Speaker 1>So I FaceTime everybody have to tell you. I have

0:53:10.800 --> 0:53:15.600
<v Speaker 1>to tell you in a relationship when you're texting, I

0:53:15.800 --> 0:53:22.160
<v Speaker 1>have to say, the amount of inflections someone might throw

0:53:22.280 --> 0:53:25.040
<v Speaker 1>into what you're saying when they read it out loud

0:53:25.080 --> 0:53:28.000
<v Speaker 1>to themselves or in their own heads, what they're reading

0:53:28.160 --> 0:53:33.040
<v Speaker 1>versus what you're actually saying. It's like, couldn't be further

0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:38.080
<v Speaker 1>from what your intent is versus what they're interpreting, and

0:53:38.239 --> 0:53:42.600
<v Speaker 1>that that can, that can It's unbelievable the difference of

0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:46.520
<v Speaker 1>how far things can be misunderstood via attack. So So

0:53:46.680 --> 0:53:50.880
<v Speaker 1>that's another thing is is inserting the sort of I

0:53:50.920 --> 0:53:53.759
<v Speaker 1>don't know what it's like in your girl's heads. But

0:53:54.000 --> 0:53:56.600
<v Speaker 1>oftentimes if I like, if I'm with a girlfriend of mine,

0:53:56.640 --> 0:53:59.319
<v Speaker 1>like a friend of mine who talks like says something

0:53:59.400 --> 0:54:03.919
<v Speaker 1>her boyfriend says or what guys say, they'll put in there.

0:54:04.040 --> 0:54:06.200
<v Speaker 1>They'll do their guy voice when they're telling me the story,

0:54:06.840 --> 0:54:08.840
<v Speaker 1>and I'll say, is that how we sound to you?

0:54:10.760 --> 0:54:16.359
<v Speaker 1>Like that sounds like the absolute what a horrible man?

0:54:17.040 --> 0:54:20.919
<v Speaker 1>You know, Like, well, what do you mean, horrible man?

0:54:21.400 --> 0:54:23.040
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, wait, is that how I sound to you?

0:54:23.400 --> 0:54:25.719
<v Speaker 1>You know? What? What are you doing? So she's like,

0:54:25.840 --> 0:54:27.880
<v Speaker 1>let me read you his text and they'll read me

0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:31.759
<v Speaker 1>something and and I'll say, let me see that, and

0:54:31.880 --> 0:54:35.000
<v Speaker 1>they'll just say, hey, honey, how are you today? And

0:54:35.120 --> 0:54:41.040
<v Speaker 1>they're reading listen to this, Hey, honey, are so guilty

0:54:41.120 --> 0:54:47.880
<v Speaker 1>of this? We are so guilty and weird. I've gotten

0:54:47.960 --> 0:54:50.799
<v Speaker 1>past it. But I would text a boyfriend and I'd

0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:54.520
<v Speaker 1>say like hey, and he would write back, I'll say

0:54:54.560 --> 0:54:58.480
<v Speaker 1>it very robotically, what's up? And what I would hear

0:54:58.600 --> 0:55:01.640
<v Speaker 1>was like what's up? Like why are you texting me?

0:55:01.760 --> 0:55:07.080
<v Speaker 1>What's up? But like right, and like we text. I

0:55:07.239 --> 0:55:09.799
<v Speaker 1>feel bad because we're a bit older where we use

0:55:09.880 --> 0:55:13.279
<v Speaker 1>the phone more, where we actually talk. These young ones

0:55:13.360 --> 0:55:17.680
<v Speaker 1>that just text, well, they are left. It's brutal. True story.

0:55:17.719 --> 0:55:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I once I had a girl's texting me and she

0:55:19.880 --> 0:55:22.239
<v Speaker 1>would put L O L after things and I didn't

0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:24.080
<v Speaker 1>know what it meant lots of love and I thought

0:55:24.120 --> 0:55:29.480
<v Speaker 1>it meant lots of love that she's just I knew

0:55:29.880 --> 0:55:32.600
<v Speaker 1>she's pouring it onto me here just tonight, and I'm like,

0:55:32.960 --> 0:55:35.360
<v Speaker 1>I just think you're a friend, Like, back off the

0:55:35.440 --> 0:55:37.960
<v Speaker 1>gas pedal here, no idea. I've been laugh out loud

0:55:38.200 --> 0:55:44.760
<v Speaker 1>so recently, this guy I like, I did start texting

0:55:44.880 --> 0:55:55.480
<v Speaker 1>the heart emoji? What color orange? Red? And because I'm like,

0:55:56.360 --> 0:55:58.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, he said something nice and I didn't want

0:55:58.120 --> 0:56:00.080
<v Speaker 1>to write twenty words back, so I just was like,

0:56:00.760 --> 0:56:02.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm just letting you know, I'm going to send the

0:56:02.360 --> 0:56:05.919
<v Speaker 1>heart emoji because it's so much easier to communicate. Maybe

0:56:05.960 --> 0:56:08.200
<v Speaker 1>go with the orange one. There, the blue one? What

0:56:08.360 --> 0:56:15.120
<v Speaker 1>is the blue? Everybody like yellow? Orange? How black? Just

0:56:15.239 --> 0:56:18.520
<v Speaker 1>a cold black heart. This is a great question, but

0:56:18.600 --> 0:56:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't even think it's physically possible. What this question

0:56:21.719 --> 0:56:27.759
<v Speaker 1>is asking anything is pib do guys fake do you

0:56:27.840 --> 0:56:29.680
<v Speaker 1>have to say it? Don't answer this unless she says,

0:56:29.719 --> 0:56:34.719
<v Speaker 1>do guys fake orgasms? Like women? Women fake them all

0:56:34.760 --> 0:56:38.840
<v Speaker 1>the time. Well, that's sort of like an old you know,

0:56:40.040 --> 0:56:42.879
<v Speaker 1>the women always fake it, but like, can men even

0:56:43.000 --> 0:56:47.759
<v Speaker 1>fake it? Right? I think we know. I think I've

0:56:47.800 --> 0:56:50.520
<v Speaker 1>probably done it in my life. What how I don't know,

0:56:51.239 --> 0:56:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Like you're would use condensed milk or something? Well, no,

0:56:59.800 --> 0:57:03.279
<v Speaker 1>you can't, you can't if you're doing that, but if

0:57:03.320 --> 0:57:06.239
<v Speaker 1>you have, if you have a tarp on, right, That's

0:57:06.239 --> 0:57:10.239
<v Speaker 1>what I was thinking. Okay, Well, I don't know. Is

0:57:10.280 --> 0:57:12.960
<v Speaker 1>that is that adding value to this show? That question?

0:57:13.320 --> 0:57:15.600
<v Speaker 1>That was a major question because they want to know.

0:57:15.760 --> 0:57:20.160
<v Speaker 1>But I men fake it way less than women. It's

0:57:20.200 --> 0:57:22.200
<v Speaker 1>harder to get away with it. Probably as a dude.

0:57:22.280 --> 0:57:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Then yeah, And I guess everybody's doing it because they

0:57:27.360 --> 0:57:31.040
<v Speaker 1>want the other person to feel like they accomplished it.

0:57:31.200 --> 0:57:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Wally, Yeah, I don't know. Next question,

0:57:37.160 --> 0:57:39.760
<v Speaker 1>finding out your ex is dating one of your friends.

0:57:40.080 --> 0:57:44.040
<v Speaker 1>How do you feel it's a little weird. That would

0:57:44.080 --> 0:57:48.800
<v Speaker 1>be weird to me, That would be super weird to me. Yeah,

0:57:50.080 --> 0:57:54.080
<v Speaker 1>trying to think, trying to think if I've ever set

0:57:54.200 --> 0:57:57.760
<v Speaker 1>an X up scanning the brain. Have any of you

0:57:58.640 --> 0:58:02.920
<v Speaker 1>ever set an x I. I really don't have contact.

0:58:03.000 --> 0:58:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I move. I dated somebody, we went out like three

0:58:06.920 --> 0:58:09.240
<v Speaker 1>times fifteen years ago, and then I set him up

0:58:09.240 --> 0:58:10.880
<v Speaker 1>with one of my close friends and they kind of

0:58:10.920 --> 0:58:14.200
<v Speaker 1>like each other. You went out three times, that's different.

0:58:14.360 --> 0:58:19.680
<v Speaker 1>It's live together or married or something. Do you ever

0:58:19.880 --> 0:58:27.720
<v Speaker 1>fantasize about being single when you are in a relationship. Yeah,

0:58:31.320 --> 0:58:37.360
<v Speaker 1>we couldn't. That's a single guy. Um No, let me

0:58:37.560 --> 0:58:41.000
<v Speaker 1>let me before I just answer this, Let me think

0:58:41.080 --> 0:58:46.600
<v Speaker 1>about this, because here's so I'm I'm I haven't seen

0:58:46.640 --> 0:58:49.280
<v Speaker 1>this question. I had no time to prepare for this question,

0:58:49.640 --> 0:58:53.520
<v Speaker 1>and I want to genuinely honor the question and actually

0:58:53.600 --> 0:58:56.080
<v Speaker 1>answer this person's questions because for some reason they wanted

0:58:56.120 --> 0:59:00.960
<v Speaker 1>to ask that. As when I think of being married

0:59:01.560 --> 0:59:07.280
<v Speaker 1>and being in my relationship, truthfully, at my core, I

0:59:07.480 --> 0:59:13.480
<v Speaker 1>don't see any other life for me, Like that's the

0:59:13.560 --> 0:59:17.000
<v Speaker 1>life that I choose now, saying that any other life

0:59:17.120 --> 0:59:20.760
<v Speaker 1>is a complete opportunity. If I wanted to today, I

0:59:20.920 --> 0:59:25.120
<v Speaker 1>could completely leave my relationship. There are no laws or

0:59:25.560 --> 0:59:28.240
<v Speaker 1>I am not that I can do anything. I believe

0:59:28.280 --> 0:59:31.000
<v Speaker 1>in free will, I can make that pivot in my life.

0:59:31.400 --> 0:59:33.800
<v Speaker 1>My wife could make that pivot in her life at

0:59:33.960 --> 0:59:39.160
<v Speaker 1>any given moment. So opportunity is around at every second.

0:59:39.240 --> 0:59:47.160
<v Speaker 1>It's infinite. Yes, that's truthful. Though. Opportunity is infinite. Opportunity

0:59:47.200 --> 0:59:49.120
<v Speaker 1>not just to be with somebody, but to be single,

0:59:49.200 --> 0:59:52.360
<v Speaker 1>to be to pivot and change your life. It's infinite.

0:59:52.960 --> 0:59:56.440
<v Speaker 1>I choose the life that I have. I choose that

0:59:56.680 --> 0:59:59.919
<v Speaker 1>every second of every day. I choose that life. Could

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<v Speaker 1>you fantasize about being single? There are some amazing things

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<v Speaker 1>that come with being single. Freedom, freedom to explore yourself,

1:00:08.480 --> 1:00:12.440
<v Speaker 1>freedom to explore others and find out what you vibe with,

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<v Speaker 1>what you don't, what you like, what you crave. There's

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<v Speaker 1>some amazing things with being single. But you go to

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<v Speaker 1>the super Bowl with Gavin, to the super Bowl with Gavin,

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<v Speaker 1>have a nice steak. Finally, our duet could come out

1:00:27.120 --> 1:00:32.840
<v Speaker 1>your big feature Evan Brooks. Yeah, um, but could I so?

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<v Speaker 1>Could I fantasize about it? Maybe? But that's all it

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<v Speaker 1>would be, truthfully genuinely to my heart? Do I do

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<v Speaker 1>I actually want that? No? This is the one time

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<v Speaker 1>today when I actually wish the other guys were here

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<v Speaker 1>only once, because I bet you they have moments because

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<v Speaker 1>they have kids where they fantasize about what their life was,

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<v Speaker 1>or because people with kids just leading the single life,

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<v Speaker 1>we are able to track. Yeah, for sure. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I know plenty of guys who are who are married. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I know plenty of women who are who are married,

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<v Speaker 1>and and you know, we all have a million friends

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<v Speaker 1>and so and so. A lot of them say, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 1>if I could you know, if I had to be

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<v Speaker 1>single again, you know, and you're like really, like, oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a different world, man, it's a different world now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just different, you know. And like it's a very

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<v Speaker 1>interesting hearing people who are married with talk like this

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<v Speaker 1>because when you ask a married person, you ask a

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<v Speaker 1>married person like, hey, do you want to go I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know to this concert? They right back, that sounds amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me check with Bob, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like they don't have total autonomy. Well you're, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a partner. I mean, it's yeah. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I think that there's elements of it where people will

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<v Speaker 1>desire or at least moments in their life, like you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>where to be single, to be able to just be

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<v Speaker 1>whimsical but not necessarily, they don't necessarily want to do

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<v Speaker 1>away with what they have. Like Kirk Brooks is in

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful relationship, He's in a great scenario, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that there's moments that in the back of

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<v Speaker 1>his mind went to while he's like, you know, I like,

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to hop in his car one day after

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<v Speaker 1>work somewhere and be like, I'd like to drive to

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas right now, just because I'd like to do it

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<v Speaker 1>overnight right now, you know what I mean. Like that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff goes to people's minds a lot where

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<v Speaker 1>it's whimsical and maybe I'll just drive three hours and

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Probably I can't for you,

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<v Speaker 1>but but you know, there are probably those little moments

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<v Speaker 1>that passed through where you're like, so, you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>is just my story, this is just me speaking. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember so vividly what it was what it was like

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<v Speaker 1>to be alone, to be single and feel alone and

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<v Speaker 1>feel lonely. We've had that discussion on the show, the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between you can be alone and not feel lonely,

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<v Speaker 1>you can be with somebody and feel lonely. Um, So

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<v Speaker 1>we've we've had that discussion. I remember so vividly the

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<v Speaker 1>feeling of being single slash alone and being lonely. That

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<v Speaker 1>give that that feeling that's like bottom of the barrel

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<v Speaker 1>kind of whatever feeling for me makes me appreciate being

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<v Speaker 1>married so much more because I remember you talked about

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<v Speaker 1>it hitting a real low. I believe after it was

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<v Speaker 1>your mom. You told the story of your mom and um,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember that such a low place. Even though

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<v Speaker 1>in my career I was I was in the best

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<v Speaker 1>place ever, but personally I was very low and very

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<v Speaker 1>alone and lonely. So that vivid memory makes me appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>being married. And I think a lot of people, even

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<v Speaker 1>when you say they have kids, if you gave them

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes to be single and alone, they they'd love

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<v Speaker 1>it for five minutes and they'd be like, no, I wanna.

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<v Speaker 1>I love my life, I love my family, I love

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<v Speaker 1>my I think you're right. I think you're right. And

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<v Speaker 1>if if they wouldn't, they're obviously in the wrong situation.

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<v Speaker 1>They should become single. I love this game so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to end today's episode. I want to keep

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<v Speaker 1>going with a similar We're gonna bring this back again.

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<v Speaker 1>This is our best I love this, but I want

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<v Speaker 1>to end this as we sort of ended I think

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<v Speaker 1>the last time we played this game, BI with a

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<v Speaker 1>question about my favorite person on the planet. What is

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite Brad Pitt movie? Boy? Oh boy, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>huge Brad Pitt fan. What is my favorite Brad Pitt movie?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have one in your in your head? I

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<v Speaker 1>loved Fury. I thought that was unbelievable. Did you see that? No?

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean for me, oceans, any of the oceans.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I love him in the ocean, all the

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<v Speaker 1>oceans because he's always eating and he' just looked. He

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<v Speaker 1>looked so good. I think. I think the reason I

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<v Speaker 1>like Fury so much is because it was just I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know what that is. I have to google it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's amazing. Yeah, it's a world an unbelievable film, and

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<v Speaker 1>his performances is amazing in it. He just said, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you can see the strain you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean on his face once upon a time in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you love it? I'm not you didn't care for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen it. It was just my favorite Brad

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<v Speaker 1>Pitt movie. Troy, that was great. He's just a bad

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<v Speaker 1>He was great, and that when he's Yeah, I love.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the part at the start of that movie

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<v Speaker 1>when the kid rides up to find him and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't want to fight him. He's like so big,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he leans down to the kid. He goes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why no one will remember your name. That slays him.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he stands right in front of the whole

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<v Speaker 1>army and then he goes, is there no one else?

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<v Speaker 1>And he stands in front of this whole army, one

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<v Speaker 1>man in front of the whole army and says, is

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<v Speaker 1>there no one else in the army? Doesn't even budge

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<v Speaker 1>and then the general comes up, and then Russell Crow

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<v Speaker 1>walks out. He's like, let's cross these two movies together.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what the Avengers. Could you imagine? That's what the

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<v Speaker 1>Avengers basically do. You can you imagine bringing like Gladiator

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<v Speaker 1>at Troy and any of those other ones? Do we

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<v Speaker 1>really want to end on that st Brad Pitt is

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<v Speaker 1>fifty six years old, young god. He looks as in

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<v Speaker 1>great shape. I mean, let's let's I do like a

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<v Speaker 1>guy a lot right now. But I would leave for

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<v Speaker 1>Brad Pitt or Jason Bateman. Why not? New problem? And

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<v Speaker 1>I told my boyfriend and he's like, I understand, understand.

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<v Speaker 1>He also is totally panicking that I just called him

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<v Speaker 1>my boyfriend. Oh no, that's the right, We're this This

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<v Speaker 1>might out like a little while from that. We were

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<v Speaker 1>just toome, He's all, we're barely dating and true, true,

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<v Speaker 1>answer this truthfully? If we wanted to, could we get

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<v Speaker 1>in touch with Brad Pitt and find out if he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to go on a date with you? No chance,

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<v Speaker 1>we couldn't get We couldn't get him on how many

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<v Speaker 1>think we couldn't get in touch with him or we

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't get him to see if you want to go

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<v Speaker 1>on a date with you he doesn't want to? Well

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know that. How dare you can? Because we've

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<v Speaker 1>never met? But how do you know it's not possible?

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<v Speaker 1>I only am friends with one person who's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>friends with him. Perfect, get him in here? Who is it?

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<v Speaker 1>He's also super famous? Let's face time him right now.

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<v Speaker 1>We could But no, come Tom Cruise, No, I know

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<v Speaker 1>who it is. Uh. He sends you, he you send him.

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<v Speaker 1>He sends you voice memos and you send him text.

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<v Speaker 1>So then it looks like you're this crazy stocker. Person

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<v Speaker 1>said that it's just littered with texts on his page

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<v Speaker 1>and he hasn't sent you anything back. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>not saying out in his name. Yes, but I knew

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<v Speaker 1>right away when you said, okay, so he's like my

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<v Speaker 1>most famous friend that has the most famous friends. So

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<v Speaker 1>do you know that? Ke? Oh, we're so tight. They're

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<v Speaker 1>they're work o buddies. Totally. Yeah, Taco Tuesdays we do together?

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<v Speaker 1>Is his body? That's right, that's my body double body double?

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<v Speaker 1>When is true? When the lights go down and they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing like a silhouette shot, like Gavin just goes backstage,

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<v Speaker 1>has a whiskey and did just bring Brad out. I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when all those award shows were happening and

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<v Speaker 1>he was giving those acceptance speeches, I was like mesmerized

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<v Speaker 1>by him, just mesmerized. Like I remember sitting on the

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<v Speaker 1>edge of my bed when he was doing the SAG

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<v Speaker 1>Awards like a month ago, and I just couldn't move.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm a teenager, completely mesmerized by this person. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just envisioned this for a second. Gavin and I are

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<v Speaker 1>able to get ahold of Brad Pitt, I could get

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<v Speaker 1>hold of bread. Well, we'll do half like Doug Pit yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the brothers like around because in Missouri? Okay, anyway, what

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<v Speaker 1>would you be like if you we got you a

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<v Speaker 1>date with what would you be on the date? It

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<v Speaker 1>would just be them taking selfies for about an hour

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<v Speaker 1>and a half until security came back. You would be chill?

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<v Speaker 1>Or would you be crazy? If I was on a

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<v Speaker 1>real date with Brad Pitt, No, I'd be normal. M

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<v Speaker 1>I think I would. I'd be like, would you want

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<v Speaker 1>to have the date and like a year like they

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<v Speaker 1>had in Troy. I just find him to be extremely charming.

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<v Speaker 1>How many minutes into that date would you then go

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<v Speaker 1>into the bathroom and then Senda's photo? You'd have to

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<v Speaker 1>really play hard to get with Brad. I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you'd have to really. I think the girl

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<v Speaker 1>that is gonna get Brad Pitt is going to be like, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>Brad Pitt is your battle plan? What if he's so

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<v Speaker 1>tired of that? Maybe every girl tries to do that

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<v Speaker 1>and he's tired of that, and he's just like, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm famous, I should be a man, And I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like, now you tricked me, tricked my brain there,

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<v Speaker 1>my brain just exploded. It's true. It's also complicated because

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, the hypothetical date with Brad Pitt turns

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<v Speaker 1>out to be very difficulty because you're like, great, Am

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<v Speaker 1>I hard to get? Or should I just throw myself

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<v Speaker 1>at him because everybody's hard to get? Or does everyone

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<v Speaker 1>throw themselves at him? Do you think he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>go to this content? Consider just like pulling up in

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<v Speaker 1>a TMZ bus with just a dinner for two and

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<v Speaker 1>just leaving out there all night with the candles burning

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<v Speaker 1>and a bottle of champagne on the on ice. The

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<v Speaker 1>more we talk about it, the less likely it is

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm ever going to get to go out with

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<v Speaker 1>Brad Pitt. I think this ruined it. We're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>talk it into the chances that I had gone. Now

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<v Speaker 1>heard he's a big fan and avid listener of our show. Yeah, so, Brad,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you for all the You send us a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of questions, and you reach out to Gavin and

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<v Speaker 1>I with your questions that we talk about them. Um

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<v Speaker 1>and I appreciate you support uh and we're here for

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<v Speaker 1>you if you're looking for a date with producer Amy.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, who I love, I love you. You

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<v Speaker 1>are one of the kindest hearted. She means not you, Brad.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what you're getting at is Amy not one

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<v Speaker 1>of the kindest people you have ever met. Absolutely in

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<v Speaker 1>your life, you will do absolutely more. You will do

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<v Speaker 1>ten times more for anybody than they will ever do

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<v Speaker 1>for you. And that means that she would probably do

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred times more for Brad. You have one of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest hearts I've ever met, and the heart is

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<v Speaker 1>a maze. So it's a big mane your heart. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually very true because since I've got to know

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<v Speaker 1>you too. That's one of the things I do love

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<v Speaker 1>about there. It's a dark, dark web up there. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you come busting in that studio. Stop thinking this. One

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<v Speaker 1>day you came busting in the studio. Here was a mess,

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<v Speaker 1>outfit was a mess, sunglasses on. You took the sunglasses off,

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<v Speaker 1>and then whoa. We were in here for about the

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<v Speaker 1>next hour sorting through. I was bowling. I'm so much

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<v Speaker 1>better though. I do have to say that I love

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<v Speaker 1>your journey that like what month was that August? September?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it was September, and like here we are March

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like you're you're on number seven now and hello,

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<v Speaker 1>it was seven Okay, do you have any more questions?

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<v Speaker 1>So good night. This was so fun. It this was

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<v Speaker 1>so fun. So I actually I appreciate everybody listening, but

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<v Speaker 1>I all, guys, we also appreciate your questions that we

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<v Speaker 1>always said we wanted this show to be a vessel

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<v Speaker 1>of service for you guys, for men and women, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we appreciate your questions. They come through on

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<v Speaker 1>our Instagram How Men Think Podcasting and also at our

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<v Speaker 1>email man at I heeart radio dot com, So please

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<v Speaker 1>keep sending them to us. Gav I thought we did great?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you and I rocked it? Amy brought it? U?

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<v Speaker 1>Did we like? Did we get rid of the other guys?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is this temporary? Is this a trial run? They're

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<v Speaker 1>coming back, but just one week without that was so nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Rick grand Dmitri Thous Yeah, I know they're fun to

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<v Speaker 1>have around. Um. Okay, that's it for today. We'll leave

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<v Speaker 1>it there. Thank you everybody for listening until next week,

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<v Speaker 1>Take care of one another, Love everyone, love everyone, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>loves everybody, and we'll see you right back here next

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<v Speaker 1>right