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Speaker 1: This is How Men Think with Brooks Like and Gavin

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Speaker 1: DeGraw and I heard radio podcast. Welcome to another episode

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Speaker 1: of How Men Think. My name is Brooks, Like, Yes

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Speaker 1: it is? And your name good sir, just co host,

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Speaker 1: Mr Mr Gavin DeGraw. What's your middle name? What's your

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Speaker 1: middle name? Um? It rhymes with name name lame dame,

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Speaker 1: nailed it. That's Gavin. That's our producer. What is your

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Speaker 1: middle name? How come I don't know this? Shane Gavin,

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Speaker 1: Shane de Graw, Shane doesn't run with name, okay, but

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Speaker 1: singer songwriter. Yeah, it's a soft ru My middle name

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Speaker 1: is Brooks. Oh yeah, your first name is something else.

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Speaker 1: We know this and so that's perfect because it's just

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Speaker 1: boss like, I love very easy. Makes you really like

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Speaker 1: the name Brooks? Producer Dan, what is it? What is it?

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Speaker 1: Evan Brooks like because we've had the book Flights for you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: no kidding. My very first name is Evan, but you

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Speaker 1: can call me Brooks keV. Let's call you ev True story.

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Speaker 1: When I was in like grade three, I changed my

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Speaker 1: name to Evan for like a week. I was like, mom,

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Speaker 1: I was going through I think I went through like

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Speaker 1: an identity crisis grade three because I changed my name

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Speaker 1: from Brooks. I was like, Mom, I want you to

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Speaker 1: call me Evan. And I also changed from wanting to

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Speaker 1: be a professional hockey player to wanting to be a

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Speaker 1: professional tennis player. Why did you go by Brooks? By

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Speaker 1: the way, true story. My dad's favorite baseball player was

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Speaker 1: Brooks Robinson, and he thought he'd he'd love you more

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Speaker 1: if he went by Brooks. I don't know, and so

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Speaker 1: he wanted to call me Brooks, and my mom wanted

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Speaker 1: the name Evan, and they thought that Evan Brooks sounded

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Speaker 1: better than Brooks even who wouldn't fight Evan or Brooks

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Speaker 1: Brooks stuffer Evans Evan sounds a little more studious. But

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Speaker 1: true story, So I don't want to have a spelling

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Speaker 1: be against him. Do you know who Brooks Robinson is?

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Speaker 1: Do you know who? He was? Hall of Fame third

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Speaker 1: baseman for the Baltimore Orioles. He was my dad's favorite

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Speaker 1: baseball player back in the day when my dad was

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Speaker 1: in in school, he used to take a radio into

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Speaker 1: class and listen to the Baltimore Oriole games, and Brooks Robinson,

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Speaker 1: oddly enough, was his favorite baseball player. Like this is

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Speaker 1: in like the sixties and uh he my dad said.

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Speaker 1: I was like, what, what did you love about Brooks Robinson.

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Speaker 1: He's like, I loved his approach to the game. And

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Speaker 1: I was like, what, this is really interesting. And then

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Speaker 1: I got to meet Brooks and I got to throw

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Speaker 1: at the first pitch at Camden Yards in Baltimore, and

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Speaker 1: I got to meet Brooks and he was he was awesome.

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Speaker 1: I phoned my dad right after. It was like, Brooks

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Speaker 1: Robinson is one of the most humble men I've ever met.

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Speaker 1: And he signed a bat for me. Said two, Brooks

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Speaker 1: honored to meet you. See you soon, Brooks Robinson Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame. Three. He was inducted into the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 1: which was the year I was born. That's amazing. There

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Speaker 1: you go. I just made that whole intro about me.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. Next time someone who cares. I had to

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Speaker 1: feel some space today. I had to feel some space

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Speaker 1: because GAV guess what mission? Mission, beautiful story, mission accomplished, Buddy.

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Speaker 1: I think we should high five. We finally accomplished our mission.

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Speaker 1: Have you washed your hands first? Huh? No flue season? Okay, no,

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Speaker 1: our secret mission of getting rid of Rick secret mission.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Dmitri are these guys today we're missing our other

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Speaker 1: three dudes, Rick, Ryan and Dmitri are not here, so

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Speaker 1: producer amys in with us. But this is I think

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Speaker 1: the first show that you and I have ever done

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Speaker 1: just solo. Is that is that true? Yeah, because we've

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Speaker 1: always when it just was the two of you, we

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Speaker 1: had like Freddie Prince, Yeah, we had a guess Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So finally, Buddy, we did it Boris on this radio island. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So that means I have to do even more lifting

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Speaker 1: on this show because by all means have at it.

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Speaker 1: But today we're doing. Today, we're doing one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite things we've ever done. About a month and a

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Speaker 1: half or two months ago, whatever it was, we did

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Speaker 1: an episode called Gavin A Good Time So creative I love.

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Speaker 1: And what we did is we took all our listener questions,

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Speaker 1: we printed them out, we cut them up, and we

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Speaker 1: put him in a hat and then we drew from

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Speaker 1: the hat. And there were two rules when we played

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Speaker 1: this game. There were two rules. The first rule you

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Speaker 1: And the second rule is you have to be honest.

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Speaker 1: And it was amazing. That was when we got done

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Speaker 1: that podcast. I don't even if you remember it. Um,

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Speaker 1: we all like high five and fifth bump right after

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Speaker 1: we'd like, damn it, that was amazing. We had some

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Speaker 1: amazing value today and the listener questions were awesome. So

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Speaker 1: this is round two of Gavin A Good Time or

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Speaker 1: if you guys had any other I call it come

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Speaker 1: to things, maybe we should do Evan a Good Time.

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Speaker 1: We could do something close to that. Amy, do you

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Speaker 1: want to lead this up? Okay? Amy? So, Amy, you

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Speaker 1: are the judge, jury and court martial and all of this.

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Speaker 1: You are. You are the host of this, So you

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Speaker 1: dictate who gets the question because you're pulling them out

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Speaker 1: of the hat. You both get them. Well, who's this leader?

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Speaker 1: Who's who's first one? Who are you leading? With you? Okay?

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Speaker 1: So I can't pass on this. There's no pass Okay,

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Speaker 1: dating than breaking up, then reuniting years later and getting

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Speaker 1: I've never done that in my life. I've never ever

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Speaker 1: done that, But sure, why couldn't it be? I think

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Speaker 1: you change as humans. I think you have a great

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Speaker 1: foundation of Uh, there's some history there. Um, there's obviously

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Speaker 1: some fond memories. There was attraction for one purpose or

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Speaker 1: for whatever purpose at some point in time, and then

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Speaker 1: maybe it just wasn't the right time of your lives.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the attraction is there, but maybe individually and as

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Speaker 1: a couple, you just weren't mature enough you had ever

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Speaker 1: at the right phase of your life to really under

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Speaker 1: because I think I think that goes overlooked, is that

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Speaker 1: what you want in life needs to be communicated, and

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Speaker 1: sometimes we just lack the skill or ability to properly

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Speaker 1: communicate or even process what thoughts we have. And so, um,

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Speaker 1: maybe these people have evolved, grown matured and then come

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Speaker 1: back into each other's lives at the appropriate time. So

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Speaker 1: I'm all for it, Shane. Yes, Mr Shane, what do

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Speaker 1: you said? I couldn't agree more. I think that's so

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Speaker 1: well said. Um yeah, coming back into someone's life. I

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Speaker 1: think that second time around is great, but you know,

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Speaker 1: a third time is the charm? Really, guys, Okay, I

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Speaker 1: won't go back in it doesn't work that second time.

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Speaker 1: Go back the third time when you really got it

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Speaker 1: We can't live like this, we like each other. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you a quick story. So Tanya rad our friend,

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Speaker 1: parents were married. I forget for how many years? Let's

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Speaker 1: ten years, like better the second time around? Even they

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Speaker 1: split up again yet and I don't think they will.

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Speaker 1: when we're standing, when we're sitting, when I think just

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Speaker 1: really it is. Dudes don't do that. Dudes don't just

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Speaker 1: Most if you're a if you're a guy, that's what happens.

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Speaker 1: Trust me, your nuts, your balls, whatever it gets itchy

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Speaker 1: rest with their fingers in their noses. Isn't that what

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Speaker 1: you're trying to say? You are throwing some in depth

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Speaker 1: that's you know what that is. That's sort of like

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Speaker 1: It's just respectful. It's nobody wants to see your jumping.

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Speaker 1: I agree enough that. No, let's keep talking about this

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Speaker 1: because I think you're right. I think you're spot on.

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Speaker 1: Bro good answers. What makes you you, Gavin you Brooks

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Speaker 1: feel sexy or desirable as men? Not what do you

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Speaker 1: I'm sexy? Um? Is it supposed to be an object

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Speaker 1: like that nice watch, you're like, some kind of clothing

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Speaker 1: or could be anything. It's a great compliment makes you

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Speaker 1: feel sexy. I think you know when somebody comes over,

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Speaker 1: when they make the point to tell you, you know,

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Speaker 1: when when Amy was real nice and she said hey,

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Speaker 1: what did you do? And I said what did I do?

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Speaker 1: It's just like no man looking good? You know, I say, hey,

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Speaker 1: It makes you feel sexy, it makes you you know. UM,

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Speaker 1: I think I think men really respond to verbal compliments. UM.

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Speaker 1: I can't speak for women, of course, but I'm assuming

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Speaker 1: men like to be complimented just like anybody else. You know,

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Speaker 1: just like just like the females he went. You went

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Speaker 1: a totally different way with that than I was gonna go.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna are you gonna go? What can I

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Speaker 1: do that makes me feel sexy? That's how it us,

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Speaker 1: That's how I interpreted the question. Mine is honestly training, Like,

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Speaker 1: a third party in? I'm like like a referee or

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00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 1: you know what's amazing about this? Um? So, thinking back

422
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: to uh Intimate Knowledge podcast when Megan shared her story

423
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 1: about this, which I commend her that that woman has

424
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of courage for sharing that story. Um,

425
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: but that's immediately what I thought of when I thought

426
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: of this. Uh. And you know what, when I heard

427
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 1: her story, if anybody hasn't listened to it, I think

428
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 1: second or third episode the episode of Intimate Knowledge, I

429
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: thought of her too, and like, um, go listen to

430
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: that's another I heard podcast. But she tells a story

431
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: very much of this, and I admire her courage to

432
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: actually that she loved this person enough to pursue something

433
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 1: that was like very much not a part of her

434
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: and not what she wanted. She didn't want it, and

435
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: then she felt a lot of shame. Um. But also

436
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 1: there's I see so much courage in that kind of love.

437
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: But then there's the fine balance of like also in love,

438
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: you need to stand up for what you believe in.

439
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: But like it was, her story was amazing. She did

440
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: it for him, and I think she is very She

441
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: was very forward she did it. She was saying, I agreed,

442
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 1: he didn't make me. I agree. But as you see

443
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: how like unselfish that love is and how beautiful that

444
00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 1: love is, like to it is. It is amazing using

445
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: to think that you love somebody that much that you're

446
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 1: going to do something that you just kind of don't

447
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: agree with or something. But like obviously it didn't just

448
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 1: happen where she snapped her fingers said, Okay, let's go

449
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: with this. There's probably discussions, but I just have an

450
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 1: appreciation if you just hear her story and hear her

451
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: tell it on the Intimate Knowledge podcast. It's actually fascinating. Wow.

452
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: I mean I listen, I I didn't hear that, uh

453
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: that podcast. So I can't really speak for that person,

454
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 1: uh specific scenario. But as far as sexuality goes, I can't.

455
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't see enjoying an activity that your

456
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: partner isn't enjoying. And to bring in a third party

457
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: that the other I mean, just the idea of that

458
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: if someone if someone was going to bring in a

459
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: third party and the person that loves them it doesn't

460
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: really want that, I can't see getting I wouldn't be

461
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 1: able to see any pleasure in that. Like, that's to

462
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: me so weird that someone would even risk making the

463
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: person that they love feel that uncomfortable potentially care for it.

464
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: And and um, I think and and and it's it's

465
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 1: it's so it takes advantage so much of that person's

466
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: feelings for you to subject them to that, to the

467
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: memory of that moment potentially that they didn't want to

468
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: be a part of. And if that person was in

469
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: a relationship, if that other person was in a relationship

470
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: with you, and they wanted to explore things and they

471
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: had a very candid conversation with you, like, hey, I'm

472
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: not sure if this is for me, this and that

473
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: I want to go blah blah blah. I say, all right,

474
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: you could. I could understand a couple saying let's take

475
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: a break, you know, you go chase down whatever you

476
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: need to chase down in your life and figure it

477
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: out and maybe we'll meet up somewhere down the road.

478
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: I can't see trying to convince somebody to bring into

479
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: a third party if I mean, this is so far out,

480
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: like it's so it's so far out anyway, just the

481
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: concept of it so far out. But if they were

482
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: into that and trying to convince someone who isn't into

483
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: it to be into it, um, that's just a bridge

484
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: too far um in my opinion, because you're putting at

485
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: risk that other person's sanity for for you, and taking

486
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: advantage of their emotions for you, because they'll go to

487
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: the ultimate extremes to accommodate you, to the point where

488
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: I feel like you're just taking advantage of their love.

489
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: That was Sometimes you say things that are so beautifully profound.

490
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: That's very nice of you, but I just can't see

491
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: doing that. But don't you love the whole, Like you

492
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: can just feel it in the studio when he goes

493
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: into he goes into this deep like pocket of thoughtfulness

494
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: and mindfulness and share something that's just incredibly profound and noble.

495
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: And because it's such a sort of a oh, let's

496
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: have a threesome, like it's a conversation that's made very

497
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: light of I find and it's sort of not that

498
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: it's common, but it's sort of a common fantasy type

499
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: of thing. And then you both really thought about it

500
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: and understood the complexities of what it would really mean.

501
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: There's also another thought to this topic is, um, who's

502
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: I listened to? Who? Where? Where? Did I hear this?

503
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: There's nothing nothing dirty can exist between two people in love.

504
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: I saw that too, And so because people it's called

505
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: dirty talk or dirty time, and it shouldn't be called dirty.

506
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: Like I've shared this on this show many times, Like

507
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: a big part of my journey in he's exploring my sexuality.

508
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: And by that I don't mean if I'm gay or straight.

509
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: I mean, like, in my sexual relationship, what is my

510
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: sexuality and and what am I craving? And what are

511
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: my desires? And what are my wife's and like how

512
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: can we have this language to feed each other in

513
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: and get everything we want and be sexually expressed to

514
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: the nth degree and everything. And then I'm so glad

515
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: you brought that up because we learned from Viviana, Dr

516
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: Viviana months and months ago that sexuality is all about

517
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: what you just said. It's not about like gay, straight

518
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: this that it's about the overall, all encompassing sort of

519
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: maybe what we'd call a sex life or something like that. Yeah,

520
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: it's when you look at the words. Sexuality by definition

521
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: is capacity for sexual feelings. That's the definition of the word.

522
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: But when you say sexuality culture society thinks it's gay

523
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: or it's like, no, I don't like some people are

524
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: figuring that out. That's fine, But like my journey is

525
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: is discovering and learning and figure out my capacity for

526
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: sexual feelings, which in my life have been very low

527
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: on the priority list. I woke up as an athlete,

528
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: wanted to train, wanted to eat, sleep, rest, perform, and

529
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: priority or a sexuality was way below all of that

530
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: for the majority of my life. And now I've discovered

531
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: this and through leelad Deville, through Viviana, through Jaya, through

532
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: doing this show, and also through my wife who is

533
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: exploring a lot of this as well and brought a

534
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: lot of this to to like shared a lot of

535
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: this with me, and has perked my interest in UM

536
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: through this show, like I've been exposed to a beautiful

537
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: new side of life that I never ever explored or

538
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: thought to explore before, and it's amazing for me. It's connection.

539
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm interested to see what Gavin says,

540
00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: but sexuality is a connection on level that's so far

541
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: beyond just your normal connection with people. It takes that

542
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: interaction and connection with one other person to just an

543
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: extreme he's processing over here. I mean, I don't know

544
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: if it's kind of what you guys are saying. I

545
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: think that question right now because I'm just I'm like

546
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: really soaking up what you know your personal does anyone

547
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: in the room. We have a couple of other married people,

548
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: and I don't want to put anyone on the spot,

549
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: but maybe tor too. Is anyone in this room open

550
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: to a threesome? So when you know when you're younger,

551
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: when you're younger, like as a as a teenage guy

552
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: or an early twenties guy, like that's that's all. That's

553
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: on your brain, like you're as a young dude, you're

554
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: you're just thinking of like exploring and like that would

555
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: sound amazing. And then once you grow and you get

556
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,239
Speaker 1: some emotional capacity and some emotional intelligence like you and

557
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: in this stage of my life, like I'm looking for

558
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: a deeper connection and romance, not well on topic of love,

559
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: looking for love and connection. And on top of that,

560
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: with that connection and with that that the emotional and physical, um,

561
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: the combinations that happened with that, and and you know,

562
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: you're tapping into nerve endings and you're tapping into that

563
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: thing that cannot be touched your scene, And I mean,

564
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: what more would you need but one person in that moment?

565
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: I mean everything else would sound like you were multitasking.

566
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 1: It would be like, oh, this is incredible, hold on,

567
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: this person needs attention to over here, you know, like

568
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: that it's so far, that's so weird. And um, you know,

569
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: I mean you know, when you're when you're intimate with

570
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 1: someone who you have great feeling for, um, they are

571
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: all that you want in that moment and after that, yeah, yes, yes,

572
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: and you are fulfilled. Um and and so um, I

573
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 1: can't see the I can't see the experience with more

574
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: than one person in a room like, I can't. I

575
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to do that, do you know what

576
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, I wouldn't. That's a fascinating purpose of

577
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: the physical element of things to just elevate, just elevates

578
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,720
Speaker 1: all the things that could not be said or and

579
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: and that connection is so the physical part of what

580
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: happens is just it's an extension of all of those

581
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: emotions and and those and all the ways you see

582
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: ida in all these other capacities of your life together. Right, amazing,

583
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: well said brother Amy. Next question, this is a left turn,

584
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: But how do you feel about couples therapy? Sure? Why not?

585
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: Like you couples go to you want a better diet, like,

586
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: have a dietitian come in, you want a better body,

587
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: have a trainer? Like? Why can people not do it

588
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 1: for their relationship? I think that's actually a sign of health,

589
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: not trouble. So many people think if like, oh, people

590
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: are going to therapy, like even individually, even individually, if

591
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 1: an individual goes to therapy, there's a stigma that there's

592
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: something wrong with this person, that they are broken or

593
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: they need to be fixed. And I've been to therapy

594
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: it's awesome. The first time I went to therapy was

595
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: last year because I was wanting to work through hockey stuff,

596
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: to to be able to release and let go of

597
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: a lot of the angst and frustration and resentment and

598
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: unfulfilled dreams or goals that I had with hockey. And

599
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: I sat down with this guy and he says, have

600
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: you ever been to therapy? And I was like, no,

601
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: He goes. It fascinates me when professional athletes, the amount

602
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: of pressure that you guys are under that you don't

603
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: have somebody to voice your emotions and feelings with. I

604
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 1: cannot believe that you have never had therapy in your life.

605
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: And and then I talked with him and I was like,

606
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: this was the greatest thing. It was just a conversation

607
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: about what I was feeling, what I was thinking. And

608
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: the term therapy has such a negative connotation culturally, and

609
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: that's for an individual, and I believe that's for a

610
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: couple as well. Instead of they're broken or in trouble,

611
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: they're actually healthy because they are working to have the

612
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: best life or relationship possible. I see I see it

613
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: as a sign of strength and health. Yeah, I don't

614
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: started to disagree with you there. I think I think

615
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: someone who cares enough to go to therapy it's a

616
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: sign that there at least sane enough to know that

617
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: they need help. Y um. Although I would say that,

618
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's I would even say strong

619
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: enough to say they want wants, maybe not need, but

620
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: want help. I agree with you, And I also think

621
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: that people also have to bear in mind that that

622
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: there's going to be better and worse versions of that,

623
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: and there's gonna be people who are more or less

624
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: gifted at that with you, So I don't think necessarily

625
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: that someone goes to a therapy session necessarily finds the

626
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: right person to talk to, you know what I mean.

627
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: They may have to go to more than one person

628
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: to find the person that is the right therapist for them,

629
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Because let's let's be let's

630
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: be clear, and let's be fair. A therapist as a

631
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: human being, and and we all know as human beings

632
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 1: that some of us are better or worse at our professions,

633
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: and we all know that there's people who are better

634
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: at the same profession and that we do, and there's

635
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: gonna be people better at that profession that you may

636
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: go to. So you know there's better singers out there

637
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: in the world than I am. I know that. So

638
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 1: there's going to be better therapists out there than maybe

639
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: the one that you're going to right now, you know,

640
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: and and so um, I think that's also fair to say,

641
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: and something to keep in mind. You might not find

642
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: the right one right away. It may take you a

643
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: bit important, you know what. You know? What else is

644
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: what I did. But I do understand the stigma with it,

645
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: and I do understand the apprehensions of doing it, I

646
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: really do, you know. You know, people talk, even professionals.

647
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: You know. What I like about like a therapist is

648
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 1: they have they have tools and a skill set. So

649
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: if you have a problem or an issue or something

650
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: you want to resolve, that's why you go there. You

651
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: have something you want to resolve. They can come at

652
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: it and a couple of different ways with different activities

653
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: or skills or questions or things that they can do

654
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: to really help you get some clarity on that. That's

655
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: and that's where I think they're super valuable. They've been

656
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: trained in that element and that's really helpful when you

657
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: have something you're trying to work through, a resolve or

658
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: figure out to get clarity. The other thing that I

659
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: think is cool about going to therapists is that if

660
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: you ever do under in a therapy session, know that

661
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: whoever you're talking to the therapist is always crazier than

662
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: you are. Well, you're the one paying them to be there.

663
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: So are you sure I've had there? Because that really

664
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: changed my life? Have you guys? Yeah? I have. I

665
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: have one that I've seen for this for hockey, I've

666
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: had actually multiple people. I don't know if i'd call

667
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: them therapists. UH can call them performance coaches, can call

668
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: them whatever you want. But like people that have helped me,

669
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: even mentors, you call mentors people that have helped me

670
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: work through some of my personal stuff with my sport

671
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:58,479
Speaker 1: and wanting wanting to release any sort of like any

672
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: sort of chains or remnants are or um anything it

673
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: still has grip that it has on me so I

674
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: can smoothly, efficiently and like happily transition to a new

675
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: phase in my life. You know what? I think? It's

676
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: also when people are talking about who they speak to,

677
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: what they say, why they don't want to go to

678
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: their therapist or talk to somebody, And I understand that

679
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: because I don't go to therapist. But I do have

680
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: conversations with people, you know, and uh, and I know therapists. UM.

681
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: It kind of reminds you this conversation I had one

682
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: time with this preacher and I'm sitting in this uh,

683
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: in this place, and he says me, tell me about

684
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 1: your relationship with God. And at that time, I says, uh.

685
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: I said to him, what relationship with God? And uh

686
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: he said, well, what do you mean? And I said, well,

687
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: I feel like I believe, but I feel like I

688
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 1: just feel uncomfortable going to churches now. And he said

689
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 1: why and I said, just I feel like I've messed

690
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: up so many times. I feel guilty when I walked

691
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: through the doors. And and he says, uh, tell me more.

692
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: And I told him some more. I said, I feel

693
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: like I did this wrong, I did that wrong, I

694
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: did this, and I did that. And we spoke for well.

695
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: I spoke for several minutes at this man, very nice man.

696
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: And then he said to me, when I was done

697
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: with my little spiel and my my guilt, he said

698
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: to me, look at me, he said, he said, do

699
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: I look phased? I said no. He said, do you

700
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: think that maybe I haven't done all those same things.

701
00:42:54,520 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know, he said, he said, do

702
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: I look like I haven't heard all of those exact

703
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: same things before and maybe done all of those same

704
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: things before. I said, I don't know. He said, I

705
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: just want you to know everything you're saying. It's completely normal.

706
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: I hear this all the time. Mhm and uh. I

707
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 1: would say that that was a form of therapy. Yeah,

708
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: and so I would say that there's many different types

709
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: of therapists and let's not give them necessarily a title.

710
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: Just know that they said, there are many different types

711
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: of people who do this type of emotional work. And

712
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: essentially what I'm saying is the help is out there

713
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: for people who were looking for it, and there's a

714
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: lot of different ways to start that conversation. Amen. You know,

715
00:43:52,680 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: well done is insecurity unattractive, but hey, but full disclosure,

716
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: we all have it. I have it, full disclosure. We

717
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: all have insecurities. We all have it, we all do.

718
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: Couldn't agree more. Um, And it's actually, it's actually can

719
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: be super beautiful when you see that in somebody, Like

720
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: when you see somebody is insecure about something and it's okay,

721
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: like you, That's part of being in a relationship, you

722
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 1: learn each other's insecurities and you try and support people

723
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: to each other through it and stuff. Um, but when

724
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 1: the when the insecurity is almost a reeking of desperation,

725
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: that's when it's unattractive. Insecure, Like if you put me

726
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 1: up on stage next to Gavin to sing like I'm

727
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: the world's worst singer, like I'm gonna be our dancing

728
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: like my wife is a world champion dancer. I'm not

729
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: a dancer. I am a dance I should say that

730
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: I am a dancer, but I'm not a trained dancer.

731
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's like an insecurity side. Take off my

732
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: shirt next to Brooks and my stomach and you know,

733
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: I don't have an eight pack. That's more like a

734
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: pony gig. But people that embrace their insecurities, that's a

735
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: that's actually such a beautiful and courageous and like and

736
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: like it's an amazing thing. But then people that try

737
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 1: their insecurities have a reek of desperation or they try

738
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: and overcompensate for them or something that that's actually a

739
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: turn off. Is self deprecation unattractive to you? Or is

740
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: it attractive to you? I like self deprecating humor. Yeah,

741
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: and so I think sometimes there there are versions of Right,

742
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: we were just talking about this, Brad Pitt has just

743
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 1: figured out well because he's so self deprecating and he's

744
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: so smart and witty and funny that it just makes

745
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: you love him more. I'm good actor too, you know.

746
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: And he know he's not just a pretty face. You know,

747
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: he earned his success. He's got lots of talent. I

748
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: would leave Gavin and the gutter immediately. But what if

749
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: I like bursting the door with the Legends of the

750
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: Fall music playing behind me and blowing against me? So

751
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: the you know, I think that there are many different

752
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: versions of this, this sort of Uh, I'm just thinking, like,

753
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: you don't even know, but you and Amy are dating,

754
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: like Abi's amis. Aby's probably telling you about our boyfriends

755
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: in town. Just gotta think with their boyfriend tonight, you know.

756
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: But it's just a podcast with you you don't even know. Well.

757
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: I think I think that that that the when people

758
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: are insecure, you know, some people wear it on their sleeve,

759
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: their insecurities. Some people have really overcompensate for the insecurity.

760
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: I think I think a lot of it has to

761
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 1: do with how we're seeing them get through their insecurities

762
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: because how we how they conquer or at least deal

763
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: with their insecurities is very telling about the other parts

764
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 1: of their personality type. And the thing is that we

765
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: may or may not be attracted to you know. Um

766
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 1: great point can add something there when when people when

767
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: people deal with their insecurities with lashing out, yeah, with anger,

768
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: with like like they just lash out. It's like, hey,

769
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: you can just like you don't need to do that,

770
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: Like we're not judging, you know, like and I don't know,

771
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: it's just that's that's a really unattractive energy. Yeah, agreed, agreed,

772
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: or like you know, just too much, just way too

773
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 1: much opulence or whatever. There's a lot of different ways

774
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: of I mean, you know, when you come come to

775
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: a town like like Los Angeles and um, you know,

776
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: you got for a walk and you know it's you

777
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: can hit a Bentley with you know, with with with

778
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: a rock just by lobbying it in the air, it

779
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: will land on a Bentley around here, you know, just

780
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: toss a rock up in the air and probably land

781
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: on a Bentley, you know what I mean, Like everybody's

782
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: driving a Bentley, don't get it wrong, beautiful car, but

783
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: there's so much of that, and I think the the

784
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: the having so much wealth on the surface really helps

785
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: kind of create that, um uh, that feeling of I

786
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: don't have enough money, Like when you go out on

787
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: the street, like oh god, it's like, oh god, everybody's

788
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 1: driving at two vehicle and I think it can really

789
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: kind of wear a lot of people out. I remember

790
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: when I first came out to Los Angeles, I just

791
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: got my record deal, and I guess, by all you know,

792
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: intensive purposes, I I was no longer broke, you know,

793
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: because I had a record deal, but I wasn't I

794
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: didn't have really money to speak of, and I felt

795
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 1: absolutely so poor and um so outclassed, and I didn't

796
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: fit in. I felt like I couldn't afford anything around here.

797
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: I felt I felt I felt like I just felt

798
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 1: like a broke kid, you know, just because there was

799
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: so much wealth on the surface here and I had

800
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:15,439
Speaker 1: great insecurity about that, um And at the same time,

801
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: I have to say, on the other side of that coin,

802
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 1: it was motivational. So I think that insecurities also can

803
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: become your weapon, because your insecurities also become your driving

804
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: force a lot of times, and so I think it's

805
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say celebrate your insecurities, because you know, I

806
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: don't think, oh yeah, I don't like this about me.

807
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: I'll just tell everybody that I love that about me.

808
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: I think it's I don't like this about me. I

809
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: can conquer this thing, or I can find something that

810
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm great at to compensate for that thing and allow

811
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: that to be the focal point of my life. And

812
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: I think so and a lot of ways, I think

813
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: that insecurities are just ultimately, at the end of the

814
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: day good. They're good weapons for you to find a

815
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: goal and to conquer the things that are essentially uh

816
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 1: kind of holding you down in any way. Do you

817
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: ever remember in like grade three where there's a like

818
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: girl in grade three, like with her hand on the desk,

819
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 1: like just blue eyes staring at the teacher. So like

820
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: that's Amy all day to day, both equally bringing the

821
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: bringing the goods. Today, I will say that I think

822
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: our podcast has gotten better. I think our intent and

823
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: purpose has leveled up with our shows. I am I'm

824
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: so happy I said that. I agree in everybody stepped

825
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: up and has been more honest, more vulnerable, no sugarcoating,

826
00:50:51,120 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: none of that. Bs, I hate. This is a good one.

827
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: What is your biggest pet peeve with your significant other

828
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: or someone you have dated in the past insecurity, I'll

829
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: tell you one that I don't like. I'll tell you

830
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: one that I don't like. The inability to apologize. That's

831
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: a great pet peeve of mine, because the only way

832
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: I feel you can hit the reset button in scenarios

833
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: that aren't going great with somebody is if you can

834
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: sort of both sort of take a step back, apologize

835
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: to each other, and then kind of start again with

836
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: whatever you know, on a new topic, on a new

837
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: week or whatever. That is. So the inability of someone

838
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: to say I'm sorry, is it? Really that's a big

839
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: one for me. I'm thinking deeply on this and actually

840
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: when I because I don't want to just give a

841
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: surface level answer, I want to when I think about it,

842
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: I think, and I'm not saying this is my present

843
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 1: relationship and I'm sure I'm just saying exactly what you said.

844
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: When somebody has an inability to listen to understand what

845
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying and they immediately reply with something defensive, that

846
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: to me is a real pet peeve. It's like, no,

847
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: I'm trying to communicate something that's very important to me.

848
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: Don't attack me and get defensive based off emotion. Please

849
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: try and understand what I'm saying and raise my hand

850
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: here guilty of doing it. We've all done that, of course,

851
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 1: how I learned. Everybody has listen to understand, don't listen

852
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: to reply. Yeah, I agree, I agree. I think we've all.

853
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 1: I think we've all done that. Show it was so

854
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: good today. Okay. So you know the other thing is like,

855
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: like you're saying with this communication, like you're saying, listen

856
00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: to understand, not to reply. I also think because a

857
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: great level of lost things being lost in translation via text.

858
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: So I FaceTime everybody have to tell you. I have

859
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: to tell you in a relationship when you're texting, I

860
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: have to say, the amount of inflections someone might throw

861
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: into what you're saying when they read it out loud

862
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: to themselves or in their own heads, what they're reading

863
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: versus what you're actually saying. It's like, couldn't be further

864
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: from what your intent is versus what they're interpreting, and

865
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: that that can, that can It's unbelievable the difference of

866
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: how far things can be misunderstood via attack. So So

867
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: that's another thing is is inserting the sort of I

868
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 1: don't know what it's like in your girl's heads. But

869
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: oftentimes if I like, if I'm with a girlfriend of mine,

870
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: like a friend of mine who talks like says something

871
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,919
Speaker 1: her boyfriend says or what guys say, they'll put in there.

872
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: They'll do their guy voice when they're telling me the story,

873
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 1: and I'll say, is that how we sound to you?

874
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: Like that sounds like the absolute what a horrible man?

875
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,919
Speaker 1: You know, Like, well, what do you mean, horrible man?

876
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: And I'm like, wait, is that how I sound to you?

877
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: You know? What? What are you doing? So she's like,

878
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 1: let me read you his text and they'll read me

879
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: something and and I'll say, let me see that, and

880
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: they'll just say, hey, honey, how are you today? And

881
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: they're reading listen to this, Hey, honey, are so guilty

882
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: of this? We are so guilty and weird. I've gotten

883
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: past it. But I would text a boyfriend and I'd

884
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: say like hey, and he would write back, I'll say

885
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: it very robotically, what's up? And what I would hear

886
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: was like what's up? Like why are you texting me?

887
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: What's up? But like right, and like we text. I

888
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: feel bad because we're a bit older where we use

889
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: the phone more, where we actually talk. These young ones

890
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: that just text, well, they are left. It's brutal. True story.

891
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: I once I had a girl's texting me and she

892
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: would put L O L after things and I didn't

893
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: know what it meant lots of love and I thought

894
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: it meant lots of love that she's just I knew

895
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: she's pouring it onto me here just tonight, and I'm like,

896
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 1: I just think you're a friend, Like, back off the

897
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: gas pedal here, no idea. I've been laugh out loud

898
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 1: so recently, this guy I like, I did start texting

899
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: the heart emoji? What color orange? Red? And because I'm like,

900
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: you know, he said something nice and I didn't want

901
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 1: to write twenty words back, so I just was like,

902
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know, I'm going to send the

903
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,919
Speaker 1: heart emoji because it's so much easier to communicate. Maybe

904
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: go with the orange one. There, the blue one? What

905
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: is the blue? Everybody like yellow? Orange? How black? Just

906
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: a cold black heart. This is a great question, but

907
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: I don't even think it's physically possible. What this question

908
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: is asking anything is pib do guys fake do you

909
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: have to say it? Don't answer this unless she says,

910
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: do guys fake orgasms? Like women? Women fake them all

911
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: the time. Well, that's sort of like an old you know,

912
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,879
Speaker 1: the women always fake it, but like, can men even

913
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: fake it? Right? I think we know. I think I've

914
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: probably done it in my life. What how I don't know,

915
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: Like you're would use condensed milk or something? Well, no,

916
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: you can't, you can't if you're doing that, but if

917
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: you have, if you have a tarp on, right, That's

918
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 1: what I was thinking. Okay, Well, I don't know. Is

919
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: that is that adding value to this show? That question?

920
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: That was a major question because they want to know.

921
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: But I men fake it way less than women. It's

922
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: harder to get away with it. Probably as a dude.

923
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: Then yeah, And I guess everybody's doing it because they

924
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: want the other person to feel like they accomplished it.

925
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, Wally, Yeah, I don't know. Next question,

926
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: finding out your ex is dating one of your friends.

927
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: How do you feel it's a little weird. That would

928
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: be weird to me, That would be super weird to me. Yeah,

929
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: trying to think, trying to think if I've ever set

930
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: an X up scanning the brain. Have any of you

931
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: ever set an x I. I really don't have contact.

932
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: I move. I dated somebody, we went out like three

933
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: times fifteen years ago, and then I set him up

934
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: with one of my close friends and they kind of

935
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: like each other. You went out three times, that's different.

936
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: It's live together or married or something. Do you ever

937
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: fantasize about being single when you are in a relationship. Yeah,

938
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: we couldn't. That's a single guy. Um No, let me

939
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: let me before I just answer this, Let me think

940
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: about this, because here's so I'm I'm I haven't seen

941
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: this question. I had no time to prepare for this question,

942
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: and I want to genuinely honor the question and actually

943
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: answer this person's questions because for some reason they wanted

944
00:58:56,120 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 1: to ask that. As when I think of being married

945
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: and being in my relationship, truthfully, at my core, I

946
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: don't see any other life for me, Like that's the

947
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: life that I choose now, saying that any other life

948
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: is a complete opportunity. If I wanted to today, I

949
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: could completely leave my relationship. There are no laws or

950
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: I am not that I can do anything. I believe

951
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: in free will, I can make that pivot in my life.

952
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: My wife could make that pivot in her life at

953
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: any given moment. So opportunity is around at every second.

954
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: It's infinite. Yes, that's truthful. Though. Opportunity is infinite. Opportunity

955
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: not just to be with somebody, but to be single,

956
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: to be to pivot and change your life. It's infinite.

957
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 1: I choose the life that I have. I choose that

958
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,919
Speaker 1: every second of every day. I choose that life. Could

959
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: you fantasize about being single? There are some amazing things

960
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: that come with being single. Freedom, freedom to explore yourself,

961
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 1: freedom to explore others and find out what you vibe with,

962
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: what you don't, what you like, what you crave. There's

963
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: some amazing things with being single. But you go to

964
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: the super Bowl with Gavin, to the super Bowl with Gavin,

965
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: have a nice steak. Finally, our duet could come out

966
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: your big feature Evan Brooks. Yeah, um, but could I so?

967
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: Could I fantasize about it? Maybe? But that's all it

968
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: would be, truthfully genuinely to my heart? Do I do

969
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: I actually want that? No? This is the one time

970
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 1: today when I actually wish the other guys were here

971
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: only once, because I bet you they have moments because

972
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: they have kids where they fantasize about what their life was,

973
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: or because people with kids just leading the single life,

974
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: we are able to track. Yeah, for sure. I mean

975
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: I know plenty of guys who are who are married. Actually,

976
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: I know plenty of women who are who are married,

977
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: and and you know, we all have a million friends

978
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 1: and so and so. A lot of them say, oh, man,

979
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: if I could you know, if I had to be

980
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: single again, you know, and you're like really, like, oh man,

981
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 1: it's a different world, man, it's a different world now.

982
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: It's just different, you know. And like it's a very

983
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: interesting hearing people who are married with talk like this

984
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: because when you ask a married person, you ask a

985
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: married person like, hey, do you want to go I

986
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: don't know to this concert? They right back, that sounds amazing.

987
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: Let me check with Bob, you know what I mean.

988
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: It's like they don't have total autonomy. Well you're, well,

989
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 1: you have a partner. I mean, it's yeah. I mean

990
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: I think that there's elements of it where people will

991
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: desire or at least moments in their life, like you're saying,

992
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 1: where to be single, to be able to just be

993
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: whimsical but not necessarily, they don't necessarily want to do

994
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 1: away with what they have. Like Kirk Brooks is in

995
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: a beautiful relationship, He's in a great scenario, and you know,

996
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure that there's moments that in the back of

997
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: his mind went to while he's like, you know, I like,

998
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: he's going to hop in his car one day after

999
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: work somewhere and be like, I'd like to drive to

1000
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: Vegas right now, just because I'd like to do it

1001
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: overnight right now, you know what I mean. Like that

1002
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: kind of stuff goes to people's minds a lot where

1003
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: it's whimsical and maybe I'll just drive three hours and

1004
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Probably I can't for you,

1005
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: but but you know, there are probably those little moments

1006
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: that passed through where you're like, so, you know, this

1007
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: is just my story, this is just me speaking. I

1008
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 1: remember so vividly what it was what it was like

1009
01:02:56,280 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 1: to be alone, to be single and feel alone and

1010
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: feel lonely. We've had that discussion on the show, the

1011
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 1: difference between you can be alone and not feel lonely,

1012
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 1: you can be with somebody and feel lonely. Um, So

1013
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: we've we've had that discussion. I remember so vividly the

1014
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 1: feeling of being single slash alone and being lonely. That

1015
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 1: give that that feeling that's like bottom of the barrel

1016
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 1: kind of whatever feeling for me makes me appreciate being

1017
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 1: married so much more because I remember you talked about

1018
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: it hitting a real low. I believe after it was

1019
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: your mom. You told the story of your mom and um,

1020
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: and I remember that such a low place. Even though

1021
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: in my career I was I was in the best

1022
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 1: place ever, but personally I was very low and very

1023
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 1: alone and lonely. So that vivid memory makes me appreciate

1024
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 1: being married. And I think a lot of people, even

1025
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: when you say they have kids, if you gave them

1026
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: five minutes to be single and alone, they they'd love

1027
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 1: it for five minutes and they'd be like, no, I wanna.

1028
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 1: I love my life, I love my family, I love

1029
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: my I think you're right. I think you're right. And

1030
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: if if they wouldn't, they're obviously in the wrong situation.

1031
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 1: They should become single. I love this game so much.

1032
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: I want to end today's episode. I want to keep

1033
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 1: going with a similar We're gonna bring this back again.

1034
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: This is our best I love this, but I want

1035
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: to end this as we sort of ended I think

1036
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 1: the last time we played this game, BI with a

1037
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 1: question about my favorite person on the planet. What is

1038
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 1: your favorite Brad Pitt movie? Boy? Oh boy, I'm a

1039
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 1: huge Brad Pitt fan. What is my favorite Brad Pitt movie?

1040
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 1: Do you have one in your in your head? I

1041
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 1: loved Fury. I thought that was unbelievable. Did you see that? No?

1042
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 1: But I mean for me, oceans, any of the oceans.

1043
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 1: I just I love him in the ocean, all the

1044
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 1: oceans because he's always eating and he' just looked. He

1045
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: looked so good. I think. I think the reason I

1046
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 1: like Fury so much is because it was just I

1047
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 1: don't even know what that is. I have to google it.

1048
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: It's amazing. Yeah, it's a world an unbelievable film, and

1049
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,919
Speaker 1: his performances is amazing in it. He just said, dude,

1050
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: you know you can see the strain you know what

1051
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: I mean on his face once upon a time in Hollywood.

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01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 1: Did you love it? I'm not you didn't care for it.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. It was just my favorite Brad

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Speaker 1: Pitt movie. Troy, that was great. He's just a bad

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Speaker 1: He was great, and that when he's Yeah, I love.

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Speaker 1: I love the part at the start of that movie

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01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 1: when the kid rides up to find him and he's like,

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01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to fight him. He's like so big,

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01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 1: and then he leans down to the kid. He goes,

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01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: that's why no one will remember your name. That slays him.

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Speaker 1: And then he stands right in front of the whole

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Speaker 1: army and then he goes, is there no one else?

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01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 1: And he stands in front of this whole army, one

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01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: man in front of the whole army and says, is

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01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,479
Speaker 1: there no one else in the army? Doesn't even budge

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01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 1: and then the general comes up, and then Russell Crow

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01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 1: walks out. He's like, let's cross these two movies together.

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01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 1: That's what the Avengers. Could you imagine? That's what the

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01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: Avengers basically do. You can you imagine bringing like Gladiator

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01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 1: at Troy and any of those other ones? Do we

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01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 1: really want to end on that st Brad Pitt is

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01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: fifty six years old, young god. He looks as in

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01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: great shape. I mean, let's let's I do like a

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01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: guy a lot right now. But I would leave for

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01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt or Jason Bateman. Why not? New problem? And

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01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 1: I told my boyfriend and he's like, I understand, understand.

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01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 1: He also is totally panicking that I just called him

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01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 1: my boyfriend. Oh no, that's the right, We're this This

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01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 1: might out like a little while from that. We were

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01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 1: just toome, He's all, we're barely dating and true, true,

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Speaker 1: answer this truthfully? If we wanted to, could we get

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01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 1: in touch with Brad Pitt and find out if he

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01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 1: wants to go on a date with you? No chance,

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01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 1: we couldn't get We couldn't get him on how many

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01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: think we couldn't get in touch with him or we

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01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 1: couldn't get him to see if you want to go

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01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 1: on a date with you he doesn't want to? Well

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01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 1: you don't know that. How dare you can? Because we've

1089
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: never met? But how do you know it's not possible?

1090
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 1: I only am friends with one person who's kind of

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01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 1: friends with him. Perfect, get him in here? Who is it?

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01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 1: He's also super famous? Let's face time him right now.

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01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: We could But no, come Tom Cruise, No, I know

1094
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 1: who it is. Uh. He sends you, he you send him.

1095
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 1: He sends you voice memos and you send him text.

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01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,439
Speaker 1: So then it looks like you're this crazy stocker. Person

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01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: said that it's just littered with texts on his page

1098
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: and he hasn't sent you anything back. Thank you for

1099
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: not saying out in his name. Yes, but I knew

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01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: right away when you said, okay, so he's like my

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01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 1: most famous friend that has the most famous friends. So

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01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 1: do you know that? Ke? Oh, we're so tight. They're

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01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 1: they're work o buddies. Totally. Yeah, Taco Tuesdays we do together?

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01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: Is his body? That's right, that's my body double body double?

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01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 1: When is true? When the lights go down and they're

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01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 1: doing like a silhouette shot, like Gavin just goes backstage,

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01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 1: has a whiskey and did just bring Brad out. I

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01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 1: you know, when all those award shows were happening and

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01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 1: he was giving those acceptance speeches, I was like mesmerized

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01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 1: by him, just mesmerized. Like I remember sitting on the

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01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 1: edge of my bed when he was doing the SAG

1112
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 1: Awards like a month ago, and I just couldn't move.

1113
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm a teenager, completely mesmerized by this person. Yeah,

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01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 1: just envisioned this for a second. Gavin and I are

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01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 1: able to get ahold of Brad Pitt, I could get

1116
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 1: hold of bread. Well, we'll do half like Doug Pit yeah,

1117
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 1: the brothers like around because in Missouri? Okay, anyway, what

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01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 1: would you be like if you we got you a

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01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,560
Speaker 1: date with what would you be on the date? It

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01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 1: would just be them taking selfies for about an hour

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01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 1: and a half until security came back. You would be chill?

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01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 1: Or would you be crazy? If I was on a

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01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 1: real date with Brad Pitt, No, I'd be normal. M

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01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 1: I think I would. I'd be like, would you want

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01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 1: to have the date and like a year like they

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01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: had in Troy. I just find him to be extremely charming.

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01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 1: How many minutes into that date would you then go

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01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 1: into the bathroom and then Senda's photo? You'd have to

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01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 1: really play hard to get with Brad. I don't think.

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01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 1: I think you'd have to really. I think the girl

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01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 1: that is gonna get Brad Pitt is going to be like, whatever,

1132
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt is your battle plan? What if he's so

1133
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 1: tired of that? Maybe every girl tries to do that

1134
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 1: and he's tired of that, and he's just like, damn,

1135
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 1: I'm famous, I should be a man, And I don't know.

1136
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 1: That's like, now you tricked me, tricked my brain there,

1137
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 1: my brain just exploded. It's true. It's also complicated because

1138
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:26,719
Speaker 1: it was like, the hypothetical date with Brad Pitt turns

1139
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 1: out to be very difficulty because you're like, great, Am

1140
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 1: I hard to get? Or should I just throw myself

1141
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 1: at him because everybody's hard to get? Or does everyone

1142
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 1: throw themselves at him? Do you think he wants to

1143
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 1: go to this content? Consider just like pulling up in

1144
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 1: a TMZ bus with just a dinner for two and

1145
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: just leaving out there all night with the candles burning

1146
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 1: and a bottle of champagne on the on ice. The

1147
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 1: more we talk about it, the less likely it is

1148
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 1: that I'm ever going to get to go out with

1149
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,680
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt. I think this ruined it. We're trying to

1150
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: talk it into the chances that I had gone. Now

1151
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:05,679
Speaker 1: heard he's a big fan and avid listener of our show. Yeah, so, Brad,

1152
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 1: I appreciate you for all the You send us a

1153
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 1: lot of questions, and you reach out to Gavin and

1154
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 1: I with your questions that we talk about them. Um

1155
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 1: and I appreciate you support uh and we're here for

1156
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 1: you if you're looking for a date with producer Amy.

1157
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 1: By the way, who I love, I love you. You

1158
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 1: are one of the kindest hearted. She means not you, Brad.

1159
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 1: Is that what you're getting at is Amy not one

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01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 1: of the kindest people you have ever met. Absolutely in

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01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 1: your life, you will do absolutely more. You will do

1162
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 1: ten times more for anybody than they will ever do

1163
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 1: for you. And that means that she would probably do

1164
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 1: a hundred times more for Brad. You have one of

1165
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 1: the biggest hearts I've ever met, and the heart is

1166
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 1: a maze. So it's a big mane your heart. But

1167
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 1: it's actually very true because since I've got to know

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01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 1: you too. That's one of the things I do love

1169
01:11:56,479 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 1: about there. It's a dark, dark web up there. Sometimes

1170
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 1: you come busting in that studio. Stop thinking this. One

1171
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 1: day you came busting in the studio. Here was a mess,

1172
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 1: outfit was a mess, sunglasses on. You took the sunglasses off,

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01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 1: and then whoa. We were in here for about the

1174
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 1: next hour sorting through. I was bowling. I'm so much

1175
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 1: better though. I do have to say that I love

1176
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:23,759
Speaker 1: your journey that like what month was that August? September?

1177
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 1: Is it was September, and like here we are March

1178
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 1: and it's like you're you're on number seven now and hello,

1179
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:37,919
Speaker 1: it was seven Okay, do you have any more questions?

1180
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 1: So good night. This was so fun. It this was

1181
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 1: so fun. So I actually I appreciate everybody listening, but

1182
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 1: I all, guys, we also appreciate your questions that we

1183
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 1: always said we wanted this show to be a vessel

1184
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 1: of service for you guys, for men and women, um,

1185
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 1: and so we appreciate your questions. They come through on

1186
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 1: our Instagram How Men Think Podcasting and also at our

1187
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 1: email man at I heeart radio dot com, So please

1188
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 1: keep sending them to us. Gav I thought we did great?

1189
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 1: Do you and I rocked it? Amy brought it? U?

1190
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 1: Did we like? Did we get rid of the other guys?

1191
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 1: Or is this temporary? Is this a trial run? They're

1192
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 1: coming back, but just one week without that was so nice.

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01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 1: Rick grand Dmitri Thous Yeah, I know they're fun to

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01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 1: have around. Um. Okay, that's it for today. We'll leave

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01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 1: it there. Thank you everybody for listening until next week,

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01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 1: Take care of one another, Love everyone, love everyone, everybody

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01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 1: loves everybody, and we'll see you right back here next

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Speaker 1: right