WEBVTT - Not Every Tom, Dick, and Harry Were Highwaymen; But These Were

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Criminalia, a production of Shondaland Audio in partnership

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<v Speaker 1>with iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've been following our new season so far, you've

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<v Speaker 2>heard about lady and gentlemen robbers, but not all highwaymen

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<v Speaker 2>and women were cavalier or polished. The tale of the

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<v Speaker 2>Dunston Brothers. Thomas, Richard and Henry. Yes, that is a

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<v Speaker 2>real life Tom, Dick and Harry are the highwaymen we'll.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk about in this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>They plundered the carriages and sometimes the homes of those

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<v Speaker 2>living near the border of Gloucestershire and Oxfordshire counties in

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<v Speaker 2>the late seventeen hundreds. Let's tell their story and their legend. Hint,

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<v Speaker 2>HiT's a pretty big legend. Welcome to Criminalia. I'm Maria

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<v Speaker 2>Tremarchi and.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Holly Frye. The Dunstan brothers grew up in the

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<v Speaker 1>small village of Fulbrook, which is only about a mile

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<v Speaker 1>from the town of Burford, a popular town in the

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<v Speaker 1>Oxfordshire cottswe and a town that plays a part in

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<v Speaker 1>the brother's criminal career. Dick, born in seventeen forty five,

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<v Speaker 1>was the eldest brother, and from about the age of

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen give or take, he had already taken to crime,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was frequently fined for assault and sometimes disorderly conduct.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom the middle brother, was punished on and off for

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<v Speaker 1>crimes of violence, according to court records. In seventeen seventy nine,

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<v Speaker 1>when he would have been about the age of twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>he was charged with deer hunting that was considered illegal poaching.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time. The practice was limited to the aristocracy,

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<v Speaker 1>and under the seventeen seventy two Black Act, only authorized

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<v Speaker 1>hunters were allowed the privilege. Poaching, it was feared, would

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<v Speaker 1>disrupt trade and threaten the power of landowners. Tom was

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<v Speaker 1>actually really lucky he wasn't executed for that act. And

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<v Speaker 1>then there was Harry, the youngest brother, who doesn't appear

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<v Speaker 1>to get into trouble until seventeen eighty one, at least

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<v Speaker 1>nothing on record, and that is pretty much all we

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<v Speaker 1>know about their childhood and the beginning of their rap sheet.

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<v Speaker 1>Though historians wonder what was the motivation for their life

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<v Speaker 1>of crime. Some have speculated it was perhaps because of

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<v Speaker 1>an injustice against their father, Richard Senior, but that is

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<v Speaker 1>just speculation. It's not at all proven.

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<v Speaker 2>The brothers used a cottage in the Burford area as

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<v Speaker 2>their home base from which to commit numerous crimes, and

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<v Speaker 2>they especially took to highway robbery. At first, they preyed

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<v Speaker 2>on farmers, taking their stock and money as they traveled

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<v Speaker 2>to market, and then they hid the stolen goods in

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<v Speaker 2>the nearby Witchwood Forest. They then expanded their lawlessness to

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<v Speaker 2>hijacking carriages such as stage coaches to steal from passengers inside.

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<v Speaker 2>They found that the forest was a perfect place to

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<v Speaker 2>hide themselves and their loot. After they stopped carriages on

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<v Speaker 2>the highway by yelling your money or your life, they

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<v Speaker 2>robbed the pass at gunpoint. Highway robbery was not the

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<v Speaker 2>trio's only illicit vocation. They also engaged in various other crimes,

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<v Speaker 2>including burglary and theft, mayhem and brawling, and sometimes murder.

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<v Speaker 1>When it came to highway robbery, the brothers worked the

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<v Speaker 1>main road linking Gloucester and Oxford. They knew it well

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<v Speaker 1>because they had grown up in the area, and they

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<v Speaker 1>had specifically chosen their home base near the border of

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<v Speaker 1>the two counties in which the towns were located. It

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<v Speaker 1>said they once robbed the Oxford to Gloucester coach, though

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<v Speaker 1>some report that it was actually the Oxford to Gloucester

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<v Speaker 1>male coach, which would have potentially carried more loot. Regardless,

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<v Speaker 1>they left that robbery with five hundred pounds worth of

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<v Speaker 1>stolen money in goods now. Historical conversion of currency is

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<v Speaker 1>never perfect, and we don't do it a whole lot,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's worth estimating here because this was a big heist.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty twenty five five, the equivalent in purchasing power

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<v Speaker 1>to that five hundred pounds ranged from sixty six thousand

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<v Speaker 1>pounds to about one hundred thousand pounds. That's a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>big estimated range, but the value of their loot is

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<v Speaker 1>known to have been quite significant in that incident, and

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<v Speaker 1>this was the heist that truly solidified their highwaymen prowess

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<v Speaker 1>and their legend.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to take a break for a word from

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<v Speaker 2>our sponsors, and when we're back we'll talk about Dick's

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<v Speaker 2>arm and also the end of the Berford Highwaymen.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Criminalia. Their crimes as highwaymen made the

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<v Speaker 1>Brothers legendary. We'll talk about the one Tom, Dick and

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<v Speaker 1>Harry are best remembered for committing, and it had nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to do with highway robbery.

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<v Speaker 2>Others were known to terrorize the locals of West Oxfordshire

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<v Speaker 2>and they openly defied the law, and there was law

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<v Speaker 2>when it came to highway robbery activities. Highway robbery was

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<v Speaker 2>not a new crime in the eighteenth century, but with

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<v Speaker 2>the development of roads and vehicles such as stagecoaches, as

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<v Speaker 2>well as handguns that were easy to use, such as

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<v Speaker 2>the flintlock pistol, it was becoming a common crime. Authorities

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<v Speaker 2>were worried about these activities because they considered them a

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<v Speaker 2>threat to the privileged and wealthy landowners. So a law

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<v Speaker 2>called Crimes against the Person and Property, which may as

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<v Speaker 2>well have been called crimes committed by highwaymen, was put

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<v Speaker 2>into effect from seventeen hundred until about nineteen hundred, and

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<v Speaker 2>it covered crimes such as murder, petty theft, poaching, smuggling,

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<v Speaker 2>and highway robbery. As of seventeen seventy two, anyone found

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<v Speaker 2>armed and disguised on a carriageway or other main road

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<v Speaker 2>was to be executed.

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<v Speaker 1>The Dunstan Brothers exploits as highwaymen made them legend, but

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<v Speaker 1>as we know, legends can get a bit sloppy because

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<v Speaker 1>of the exaggeration that typically comes along with it. At

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<v Speaker 1>the very least, we know that the Dunstan Brothers did exist.

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<v Speaker 1>They were not a combination of highwaymen told as the

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<v Speaker 1>tale of one thief, as often happens in legendary stories

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<v Speaker 1>that change through the centuries. Historians have been able to

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<v Speaker 1>connect them to the descendants of quote two generations of

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<v Speaker 1>Maltsters from the village of Fulbrook, and a few accounts

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<v Speaker 1>claim that the brothers were quote young gentry related to

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<v Speaker 1>Fulbrook manor young gentry who then turned to a life

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<v Speaker 1>of crime. Historical newspapers can help with details of a

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<v Speaker 1>crime that happened long before us too, and in this

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<v Speaker 1>case there are pamphlets that have survived the years. An

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<v Speaker 1>unsurprising spoiler alert, those pamphlets contain an account of the

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<v Speaker 1>day that brothers were executed.

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<v Speaker 2>By now, the three brothers had picked up the nickname

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<v Speaker 2>the Burford Highwaymen, perhaps one of the most unverifiable, yet

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<v Speaker 2>a solid part of their legend tells the story of

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<v Speaker 2>a man named Samson Pratley who challenged one of the

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<v Speaker 2>brothers to a fight at probably the coaching inn called

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<v Speaker 2>the Burden Hand at CAP's Lodge. But as an aside,

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<v Speaker 2>don't mistake that for the present day Burdenhand at white

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<v Speaker 2>Oak Green, they aren't the same. This fight was actually

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<v Speaker 2>more of a wager really, at least it started that way.

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<v Speaker 3>What it became was.

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<v Speaker 2>A contest to see who was the strongest, and for

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<v Speaker 2>their prize, the winner would get no not ale or money,

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<v Speaker 2>they'd get a sack of potatoes. It was Sampson who

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<v Speaker 2>won those potatoes, fair and square, though he never did

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<v Speaker 2>get his prize because, after all, it turned out Tom,

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<v Speaker 2>Dick and Harry were the kind of guys who were

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<v Speaker 2>going to take that prize regardless of who won.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's likely the brothers are best remembered for a

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<v Speaker 1>non highwayman crime that almost certainly led to Dick's death.

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<v Speaker 1>Authorities had their suspicions that the brothers planned to rob

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<v Speaker 1>Tangley Hall, a sixteenth century manor located on a moated

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<v Speaker 1>site in Surrey, but they didn't have tangible evidence of

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<v Speaker 1>any such plan. But the authorities were right. The brothers

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<v Speaker 1>were planning to rob Tangley Hall, but they had made

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<v Speaker 1>a mistake. While they were plotting this crime, they had

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<v Speaker 1>been overheard talking about the plan while drinking at the

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<v Speaker 1>Bird in Hand. According to British folklorist and author Catherine

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<v Speaker 1>Briggs in the book Folklore of the Cotswolds, the Dunstans

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<v Speaker 1>had been quote drunkenly boasting of their crime, saying that

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<v Speaker 1>no one would take them. Someone pretty likely someone in

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<v Speaker 1>the pub that night, tipped off the authorities.

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<v Speaker 2>The brothers, totally unaware their premeditated robbery had been spoiled,

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<v Speaker 2>arrived at the manor as they first had to pry

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<v Speaker 2>open the Judas hole. A judas hole is basically a

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<v Speaker 2>security feature. It could be a one way peep hole,

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<v Speaker 2>or a relatively small to medium opening, or a one

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<v Speaker 2>way window and a door. Think of it as a

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<v Speaker 2>door viewer, used to allow the occupants inside to spy

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<v Speaker 2>on any visitors outside without those visitors knowing they can

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<v Speaker 2>be seen. Door holes vary quite a bit. For instance,

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<v Speaker 2>the size and shape of the Judas hole the Dunstans

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to break into is lost to history. If they

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<v Speaker 2>brought along tools, for instance, there's no record. The shape

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<v Speaker 2>of the hole can be really pretty much whatever you

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<v Speaker 2>want it to be, with some exception. Some are super tiny,

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<v Speaker 2>like a hotel peep hole, while others are more like

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<v Speaker 2>a window and sometimes the larger holes have some latticework

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<v Speaker 2>obscuring it.

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<v Speaker 3>These holes are still used.

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<v Speaker 2>Today, and one example you'll find them often in prisons,

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<v Speaker 2>where guards can discreetly watch over prisoners through a secret

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<v Speaker 2>opening in the door of a prison cell. So sort

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<v Speaker 2>of like an eighteenth century version of today's video doorbells,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Dick and Harry needed to get through the doorhole

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<v Speaker 1>to break into the house, and that meant force and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a little widening, but that's just our own speculation,

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<v Speaker 1>not knowing what this particular Judas hole was built to

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<v Speaker 1>look like. For the brothers, the plan was for Dick

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<v Speaker 1>to reach his arm through that opened hole and then

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<v Speaker 1>unlock the bolt from the inside so that the brothers

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<v Speaker 1>could walk right in. But two unfortunate things happened to Dick. Firstly,

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<v Speaker 1>a local constable named mister Secker from Widford was waiting

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side of the door with the butler.

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<v Speaker 1>The constable was holding a rope that he planned to

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<v Speaker 1>use to apprehend the brothers. And then secondly, Dick got

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<v Speaker 1>his arm stuck, but not really of his own ineptitude.

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<v Speaker 1>This second unfortunate thing was a direct result of the

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<v Speaker 1>first unfortunate thing. He did get his arm through the hole,

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<v Speaker 1>but before he could unlock the door, the constable slipped

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<v Speaker 1>his rope over Dick's now inside the manor hand, and

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<v Speaker 1>then tied him to the inner door handle.

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<v Speaker 2>As most of us surely would, he called for help

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<v Speaker 2>from his brothers, and even the people inside the manor

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<v Speaker 2>heard him a voice shouting quote cut cut. They also

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<v Speaker 2>recalled hearing the sound of a sword hitting the door,

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<v Speaker 2>which was followed by screams. And that was Dick who

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<v Speaker 2>yelled and screamed because instead of cutting the problematic rope

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<v Speaker 2>that bound his wrist, Tom and Harry cut off Dick's arm,

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<v Speaker 2>leaving without the severed arm tied to the door or

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<v Speaker 2>continuing to try to get the money and jewels from

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<v Speaker 2>the intended robbery. Tom and Harry were somehow able to

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<v Speaker 2>put Dick on a horse. They rode away, and rumors

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<v Speaker 2>claimed that they left trail of blood behind. No one

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<v Speaker 2>saw Dick again. One person on his way to work

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<v Speaker 2>that night described two figures varying a third in a

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<v Speaker 2>shallow grave at a nearby quarry, but he seems to

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<v Speaker 2>have been the only one to report it. Dick's death

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<v Speaker 2>is generally considered to have been from complications related to

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<v Speaker 2>his injury. So the two remaining brothers, while they just

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<v Speaker 2>carried on with their business.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to take a break here for a word

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<v Speaker 1>from our sponsors, and when we return we will talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the events leading up to Tom and Harry's execution.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Criminalia. Let's talk about the day Tom

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<v Speaker 2>and Harry were arrested, and also let's talk about a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of speculation.

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<v Speaker 1>By seventeen eighty four, what could have been a day

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<v Speaker 1>of fun at the Burford Whitsuntide Festival was not just

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<v Speaker 1>for contextual assign Whitson is the name many European churches

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<v Speaker 1>use for Pentecost, the seventh Sunday after Easter, commemorating the

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<v Speaker 1>descent of the Holy Spirit on the apostles. In Christian

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<v Speaker 1>belief systems, whitson Tide is the week that starts with

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<v Speaker 1>the Sunday of whitsun So this was a springtime event.

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<v Speaker 1>The Dunstan brothers had said were particularly unruly that afternoon

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<v Speaker 1>and likely inebriated during their attendance. Following the fair, the

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<v Speaker 1>men went drinking at the Bird in Hand. It was

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<v Speaker 1>close to the fairground, but it also just seems to

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<v Speaker 1>have been their favorite watering hole. And then things got worse.

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<v Speaker 2>When barkeep slash landlord William Harding teased that he could

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<v Speaker 2>take Tom and Harry in a fight and jokingly played

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<v Speaker 2>at arresting them. The brothers didn't get the joke, and

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<v Speaker 2>in his anger about that, Harry fired his gun at William.

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<v Speaker 2>According to most accounts reported of this event, the bullet

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<v Speaker 2>hit a coin Harding's waistcoat pocket and ricocheted away, which

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<v Speaker 2>saved his life. Before the Dunstan brothers could get away

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<v Speaker 2>or order another drink, they were overpowered by fellow customers

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<v Speaker 2>who'd witnessed the fight, and there the brothers were arrested.

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<v Speaker 2>Though they had more on their crime resume than highway robbery,

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<v Speaker 2>they were tried and sentenced as highwaymen, which meant death

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<v Speaker 2>by hanging. They were executed at Gloucester in July of

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen eighty four, and William, for his part, he became

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<v Speaker 2>something of a local celebrity as the guy who brought

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<v Speaker 2>the Dunstan brothers to justice.

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<v Speaker 1>Though we know through court records that they were charged

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<v Speaker 1>and tried as highwaymen, not for murder. The Leeds Intelligencer

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<v Speaker 1>and Yorkshire General Advertiser reported on the execution a little differently,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is a great example of a story that

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<v Speaker 1>runs differently from the majority of others that we found

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<v Speaker 1>in research, suggesting that they were successful in their murder

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<v Speaker 1>of the innkeep and that they were tried for that crime. Quote.

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<v Speaker 1>On Friday Sennight, Thomas and Henry Dunstan were executed at

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<v Speaker 1>Gloucester for the murder of Henry Harding. The morning of

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<v Speaker 1>their execution, they appeared very penitent. Henry was particularly free

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<v Speaker 1>in acknowledging that a life so ill spent as his

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<v Speaker 1>could not expect an exit no less miserable. He seemed

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<v Speaker 1>a good deal affected that his body was to be

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<v Speaker 1>hanged in chains so near his father's house. He endeavored

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<v Speaker 1>to exculpate his brother as having been free from those

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<v Speaker 1>villainies which had marked his own conduct, and endeavored to

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<v Speaker 1>keep up his brother's spirit to the last. The brother

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<v Speaker 1>was lame of one leg, and when they were tying up,

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<v Speaker 1>he exhorted him to be of good cheer. Come, Tom,

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<v Speaker 1>said he you have but one leg, but you have

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<v Speaker 1>but a very little time to stand.

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<v Speaker 2>After their execution, Tom's and Harry's bodies were taken to

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<v Speaker 2>their home near Oxfordshire and hung in gibbets. Common at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, gibbeting was the use of a gallows type structure,

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<v Speaker 2>so envision a post with a prominent arm from which

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<v Speaker 2>bodies were hanged on public display, and that was often

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<v Speaker 2>to deter others from a life of crime.

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<v Speaker 3>And did it work not?

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<v Speaker 2>Especially highwaymen were practicing their art until at least the

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<v Speaker 2>mid eighteen hundreds.

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<v Speaker 1>In the finale to their story, there is an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>bit of speculation, and who doesn't like a little speculation

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<v Speaker 1>from time to time. Suppose there was another Dunsden brother

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<v Speaker 1>named Charles. I certainly read that Richard Senior had more

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<v Speaker 1>kids than this, so it's possible he did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there were two that were older than Robert and

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<v Speaker 2>they had passed away.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he had a bunch like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is a real rumor, but to be clear,

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<v Speaker 1>that does not mean it is a fact. Unlike his brothers, though,

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<v Speaker 1>Charles was law abiding and a religious person with a

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<v Speaker 1>wife and family. The Dunstan brother's grandfather, John Dunstan, had

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<v Speaker 1>connections to the church in Fulbrook and was a well

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<v Speaker 1>regarded member of the community. So, according to the rumor

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<v Speaker 1>following the trial and execution of Tom and Harry, Dick's

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<v Speaker 1>arm was returned to the family. It said that Charles,

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<v Speaker 1>if Charles existed, was probably the one to receive the

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<v Speaker 1>lost limb. Other reports suggest that authorities retained the severed

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<v Speaker 1>arm as evidence that it was pickled for two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>in a solution of quote Saltpeter long peppers and salt.

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<v Speaker 1>When the arm was dry, it was kept safe, allegedly somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>As for Tom, Dick and Harry, they actually gained notoriety

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<v Speaker 2>after their deaths. Mostly rumor and exaggeration of real events

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<v Speaker 2>did the trick, but it took nearly one hundred years

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<v Speaker 2>after their deaths for them to become the famous and

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<v Speaker 2>notorious highwaymen that we still talk about today.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Maria, would you like a little slug of

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<v Speaker 1>something from my hip flask? I?

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<v Speaker 3>Would you? Sharon?

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<v Speaker 1>I am. I'm gonna share some history, some drink history here.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was a book. There were many books, but

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<v Speaker 1>in seventeen fifty there was a book written that was

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<v Speaker 1>popular in England called English Housewiffery, and it had many

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<v Speaker 1>recipes in it, including recipes for one of the few

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<v Speaker 1>sort of mixed drinks you would get in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>which was punch. Oh yeah, punch was super popular. And

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<v Speaker 1>this particular cookbook, book of Tricks for the Home, includes

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<v Speaker 1>a recipe for milk punch, which sounds vile, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to read it. This reads simply, the opening ingredient

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<v Speaker 1>is going to make you your stomach lurch a little,

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<v Speaker 1>So get ready to make milk punch. Take two quarts

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<v Speaker 1>of old milk, the old yeah, a quart of good brandy,

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<v Speaker 1>the juice of six lemons or oranges, whether you please,

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<v Speaker 1>and about six ounces of loaf sugar. Mix them all

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<v Speaker 1>together and drop them through a jelly bag. Take off

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<v Speaker 1>the peel of two of the lemons or oranges and

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<v Speaker 1>put it into your bag. When it is runoff, bobblet t.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll keep as long as you please.

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<v Speaker 3>God bet it will.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds horrifying.

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<v Speaker 3>Is old milk the same thing as buttermilk?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, curdled.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure it's curdle and sour.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Just the idea of take two quarts of old milk.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't need any more detail, I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why I ask hard pass.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a milk punch another way right after it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's much simpler. This includes that that use of a

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<v Speaker 1>word that comes up when you look at old cookbooks,

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<v Speaker 1>which can be spelled with a J or a G.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll see it as jills or gills, depending on how

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<v Speaker 1>you like to pronounce it. That means like, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a four ounce measure.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't take my word for it. I didn't look it up,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know I have looked it up in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it's a four ounce measure. Take three

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<v Speaker 1>jills of water, a jill of old milk, and a

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<v Speaker 1>gill of brandy. Sweeten it to your taste. You must

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<v Speaker 1>not put any acid into this, for it will make

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<v Speaker 1>it curdle. This one isn't. And to be clear, I

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<v Speaker 1>do want to say about the milk punch. They're straining it,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's kind of like the way you would make

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<v Speaker 1>a clarified milk punch today, where you do let milk

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<v Speaker 1>sit in a thing and it kind of all the

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<v Speaker 1>fats come to the top and you pull that off

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<v Speaker 1>and you strain it and you get you do get

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<v Speaker 1>a drink that will stay for a very long time,

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<v Speaker 1>like indefinitely, and it has a very silky mouthfeel. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very smooth. This one that that another way version, they're

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<v Speaker 1>simplified version doesn't include that straining step, which is why

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have you add any of.

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<v Speaker 3>The lemon and orange.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, then they have punch another way, and this one

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<v Speaker 1>involves no dairy, so everybody can breathe a sigh of relief.

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<v Speaker 1>This is really the inspiration for today's drink, which is

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<v Speaker 1>take five pints of boiling water and one quart of brandy,

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<v Speaker 1>add to it the juice of four lemons or oranges,

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<v Speaker 1>and about six ounces of loaf sugar. When you have

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<v Speaker 1>mixed it together, strain it through a half sieve or cloth,

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<v Speaker 1>and put into your bowl the peel of a lemon

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<v Speaker 1>or orange. So I don't want to do all that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do want to make a yummy cocktail that's

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<v Speaker 1>inspired by it. So you're gonna hear a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>ingredients that are very similar and in terms of measures,

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<v Speaker 1>this also borrows a little similar DNA, but it's changed

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<v Speaker 1>up a bit from like a Collin's recipe, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can have a Tom Collins or a John Collin,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe Collins. So this one starts with two ounces

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<v Speaker 1>of brandy, you could also use cognac if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to have your fancy brandy involved an ounce of orange liqueur,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is poorer's choice. So whether you have like

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<v Speaker 1>a curasow or triple sac either as fine a half

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<v Speaker 1>ounce of lemon juice. And the reason we're not using

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<v Speaker 1>much is because we are using a citrus liqueur an

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<v Speaker 1>ounce of simple syrup, and then you're gonna shake that

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<v Speaker 1>with ice, strain it and pour over fresh ice, and

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<v Speaker 1>then top it with one to two ounces of club soda,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on how much you like to dilute it out. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>once you have your club soda, and take a peek

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<v Speaker 1>at your glass because you want to add to your

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<v Speaker 1>glass at this point more ice to its almost to

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<v Speaker 1>the rim. Because the last thing we're gonna do, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is what gives this drink its name. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sorry it's a little but I couldn't resist. So you

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<v Speaker 1>filled your drink, which is fine, but I would say

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a dull. It's not that exciting as a drink.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point, you are gonna fill it to the

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<v Speaker 1>rim with ice, and then you're gonna pour over it

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<v Speaker 1>slowly a half ounce to three quarters of an ounce

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<v Speaker 1>of ruby port. And it looks kind of like there's

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<v Speaker 1>blood dripping into your drink because this is called Dick's arm.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh could not.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's grizzly, but it's just such a weird

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<v Speaker 1>turn of events.

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<v Speaker 3>I know he's a criminal, but I mean, poor poor Dick.

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<v Speaker 1>Poor Dick. Oh man. I seriously wonder if his brothers

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<v Speaker 1>misunderstood his directive or if they were like, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>way this is gonna work unless we chop his arm off. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what happened there.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like it's the second.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like he's yelling cut and they're like, cut,

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<v Speaker 2>just did not go for the rope.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I will say the mocktail for this. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>little sweeter, but it's very delicious. Here you go. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna start. You're not gonna use all this. You can

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<v Speaker 1>make several drinks with six ounces of a low sugar

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<v Speaker 1>white grape juice, and you're gonna let that steep with

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<v Speaker 1>a little earl gray tea for I don't know, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes. It doesn't have to be warm. You can

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<v Speaker 1>cold steep it. Just give it a shake now and again,

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be your replacement for brandy, and it

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<v Speaker 1>the tea gives it a much fuller body and a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a bass note, and it's actually quite

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<v Speaker 1>nice just to drink on its own. So you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take two ounces of the resulting concoction, one ounce of

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<v Speaker 1>orange syrup, one half ounce of lemon juice, one ounce

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<v Speaker 1>of simple syrup. You're gonna do the same thing, shake

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<v Speaker 1>and strain that and pour it over ice. Do your

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<v Speaker 1>club soda on top, same thing with filling your glass

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<v Speaker 1>up with as much ice as it will hold. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you're gonna put a half ounce to three quarters

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<v Speaker 1>from now of pomegranate juice on top of that. This

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<v Speaker 1>drink is good. This mocktail is really good. Like the

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<v Speaker 1>original drink is fine, but this mocktail turned out like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is really the star of the show. So that

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<v Speaker 1>is that is Dick's arm and mocktail form. Hopefully you

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I'm too much of a ghoule, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just as a detail.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so detailed.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't You don't get an accidental dismemberment by your

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<v Speaker 1>brothers very often.

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<v Speaker 2>No, In fact, this is the first story I've ever

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<v Speaker 2>heard about.

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<v Speaker 1>So I couldn't help but fixate on it. Uh. So

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<v Speaker 1>that is our our drink for Tom, Dick and Harry.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh you know, I myself wonder if Anybody's ever

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<v Speaker 1>gone to try to find Dick's grave and see if

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<v Speaker 1>he in fact has no arm.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I do know that allegedly there is still evidence

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<v Speaker 2>of a bullet hole in the wall, but I have

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<v Speaker 2>no I have no source for like primary source for.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no way of really knowing. But it was Sarah.

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<v Speaker 3>The detail was not included. But wouldn't it be cool?

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't, It doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Change the murder versus uh not murder.

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<v Speaker 1>But we hope you have enjoyed this wild story and

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<v Speaker 1>that this drink is delicious if and hopefully doesn't horrify you.

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<v Speaker 1>We will be right back here again next week with

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<v Speaker 1>another story of a highwayman or woman and a drink

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<v Speaker 1>and a mocktail to go with it. Criminalia is a

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