WEBVTT - S2 Episode 4: Nothing Promised 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.920 Drafted is a production of tree Ford Media, Clutch Sports Group, 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:15.319 and I Heart Radio. No other draft class has been 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:19.320 through this. No other draft class was a craft shoot 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:22.680 like this draft class because they didn't get to say them, 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:25.759 they didn't get to have their normal workouts, they didn't 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:27.880 see him in the n s A tournament. They didn't 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:31.680 see guys play their best when it really matters. So 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:35.200 this was one of those let's take a guess draft. 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:43.440 Welcome back to Drafted. I'm kicking Michael Key and that's 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:47.560 University of Kentucky head coach John Kella PARTI talking about 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:52.479 the end of double A season and the thick cloud 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:57.120 of uncertainty hanging over everything sports and otherwise. When the 0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:01.280 years screeched to an abrupt stop with covid H, when 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:03.920 this thing ended, some of the guys, I think some 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:07.000 of them were just stunned, like stunned, like what in 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:09.959 the world. We had a couple of guys cry. I 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:11.760 don't know if he was one of them. I do 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:14.440 know when we arrived back on campus, they played five 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:19.000 on five, just the last time to be together. That's 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:21.680 how Tyrese's dream of playing at the University of Kentucky 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:29.280 ended and In this fourth episode, we'll hear about the 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:33.040 unprecedented months that followed the stretch that Tyrese and Anthony 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:36.240 Edwards faced between the end of their college seasons and 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:40.360 the start of their NBA careers. This period presented extremely 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:43.880 different challenges and many unknowns instead of the physical and 0:01:43.920 --> 0:02:00.880 mental strain they're accustomed to facing on the court. It's 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:03.360 crazy because people ask us how different it is, but 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:05.800 this is all we know. This is all I know, 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:08.200 Like this is the only time being in the draft process, 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:10.760 so I don't know what it was like if if 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:12.440 you know, it was in person that we was flying 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:15.640 around everywhere, so the zoom is all we know. It 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:18.400 was kind of crazy. We knew the COVID COVID nine 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:21.720 team was rising, and uh, people started saying that we 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:24.560 weren't gonna play with fans, and it kind of just stopped, 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:28.079 like abruptly. It was weird, like, you know, we're expected 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:32.560 to play. We get to Nashville. Nashville was hosting the 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:36.600 Southeastern Conference tournament starting on March eleventh, and Tyrese's Kentucky 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:39.560 team was scheduled to play after a buy Okay, okay, 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:41.880 we're not allowed to have fans all right, cool. Then 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:46.160 the NBA cancels that same day. So now we're like waiting, like, okay, 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:48.400 if they're not gonna if the NBA, the professionals, the 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.240 one the people who get played to play the game, like, 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:53.320 if they're not gonna play, there's no way that we 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:55.560 can play. It was sad. I mean it was sad 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:57.359 to know that you put in all the work, all 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:00.200 the days in the summer, all the two days of 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:03.520 all the extra shots you're putting in just like you 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:07.200 can make a run at the tournament, and now no run. 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.240 On March eleventh, the two first round games in the 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:13.600 SEC tournament were played without fans. The next day, the 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:17.760 entire season was canceled, including March Madness. All the recent 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:21.440 effort feels squandered. Tyrese had the drawing of himself wearing 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:24.240 a Kentucky jersey hanging on his wall since middle school, 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:27.280 something he had been working towards for six years, was 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:31.120 stolen the day it was supposed to begin. This suck 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:33.440 that I couldn't finish it out and see what we 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:35.680 could do as a team and as an individual in 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:38.600 the tournament. You know, there's always special moments in March, 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.400 but I had to understand I had to adapt to 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:43.840 the situation that was going on. You know, the we 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:46.360 end up start wearing mask and quarantine it for a 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:50.760 long time and social distance, and so I think emotionally 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:52.520 I kind of had to grow and we had to 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:55.960 move on from it. Terrese's uncle Brandon describes the shock. 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:01.320 It's very disappointed, man, because I knew they were peeking 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:04.200 right then. They had just went on the road. I 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:08.160 think they would just beat Florida, and they were just jelling. 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:10.800 You know, you just imagine being your your first year 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:13.960 in college, you're going to your dream school, that the 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:17.000 tournament is what you play for, your conference tournament, in 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:20.360 a big tournament, just the chance to compete with your guys. 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:22.360 And it was like everybody was on the edge of 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:24.440 the seat just waiting for him because he knew they 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:27.240 were gonna make a run in the tournament, and those 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:31.279 moments he lived for, big stage, bright lights, tournament time, 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:33.920 It's time to go get it. So we were like 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:39.000 everybody didn't get to see the magic man. But he 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.040 was just like, oh man, all right, let's get ready 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.479 for this. Let's get ready for it. Was like a 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:47.680 split second, It's like, hey, I wanted to play, but 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.680 it was like, alright, cool, let's go, let's get ready 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:54.920 for his draft. Getting ready for the draft under these 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:58.600 circumstances comes with new issues and unknowns. How do you 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:01.960 prepare physically when every gym in training facility closes down 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:05.280 and the country goes into lockdown and quarantine, and without 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:07.720 a highly publicized tournament, how do you show off your 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.680 improvement from college and your ability to perform on the 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:14.000 biggest stage. So right after the season, coach Kyle let 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:15.360 us go home. He wants us to go home and 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:18.240 be with our family. So I think it was a 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:21.279 Tuesday maybe when we went up to Nashville, came back 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:24.680 the next day on a Wednesday, and on Thursday, I 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.599 drove home to Texas with my family. So it was 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:30.680 it was that type of a quick turnaround. I was 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:35.880 therefore in Texas until so from March to May. From 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:37.839 March to May, that's where I quarantined that for the 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:39.560 most part. And then in May I came out to 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.800 l A. And it's still basically quarantine, but just going 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:45.599 to the gym working out here. So Tyrese comes to 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:48.640 l A and starts as aforementioned three day's workout regiment 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:52.400 preparing for an uncertain draft that ultimately ends up moving 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:56.839 from June to October to November for almost eight months. 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.760 Tyrese and Anthony can't compete in a real game of 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:04.000 basketball due to the risk of injury and coronavirus. As 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:06.400 they aren't sure when the draft will take place, they 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:09.760 can only train in hopes of hitting a constantly moving target. 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:14.279 Here's Anthony's trainer, Justin Holland. Once the season was canceled, 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:16.600 especially as abruptly as it was, I think it was 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:17.960 just kind of like the rest of the world, what 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:20.919 is this COVID nineteen that everybody's talking about and Rudy 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:23.000 Gobert has it, Is Rudy gonna die? Like I think 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:25.600 it was. I don't even I think initially nobody was 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:28.320 really thinking about basketball at that point. It was just like, 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:31.200 what what's happening? And then once you kind of digesting 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:34.800 you and you understanding more about what's going on, it's like, man, 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.360 I didn't get to finish my my college season. You know, 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:39.880 we had plans to make a run for an n 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:42.520 SEC tournament and you know, getting to the n c 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:46.000 Double A tournament and hopefully had one of those legendary runs, 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:47.640 and that was that was one of those opportunities that 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:50.799 was just kind of stolen from him. Justin and Anthony 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:53.800 regrouped once the season was officially called off and tried 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:55.600 to make a plan to get Anthony ready for the 0:06:55.680 --> 0:07:02.000 draft well doing the pandemic. What what you find out 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:04.960 real fast is the plan is there is no plan. 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:07.839 The plan is what you can do right now because 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:10.840 you never know what may happen tomorrow. So it was 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:12.880 kind of like a new landscape for me because you know, 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:14.680 I kind of have, like I said, my own plan 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:16.560 in my mind as to what I want to do 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:20.240 with Anthony. But now instead of the process being three months, 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:23.200 it's it's been stretched out for eight months. Instead of 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:25.560 we can't get in the gym seven days anymore, we 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:27.160 can't get in the gym five days. We have to 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:31.600 structure everything we're doing to scale it down too. At 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:33.760 that point, we really didn't know. It's like it might 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:35.880 be five months. You know, you don't wann't You don't 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:38.040 want to wear them down by doing too much too early, 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.760 but you don't want to do not enough, and he's 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:42.720 not ready just in case the draft is next month. 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:44.960 So that was just a really frustrating process. But I 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:48.520 think for everybody without a clear timetable, training for the 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:52.000 start of the season becomes nearly impossible. Normally, the league 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:54.720 hosts a pre draft combine similar to the one held 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:58.120 by the NFL, where players participate in drills and interviews 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:01.120 and go through physical exams and other testing. But that 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:05.880 event also moves and then gets canceled and then turns 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.679 into a virtual event. They no longer have the typical 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:11.440 outlets to show off all the additional months of training. 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:15.440 So if you're Tyres Maxie or Anthony Edwards in the year, 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:19.440 how do you show NBA teams that they should pick you. 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:45.240 We'll be right back. So we had been planning on 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:48.640 having a pro day. Obviously, given COVID, things are going 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:51.640 to be different. This is Clutched Sports head of Basketball 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:54.960 Omar Wilkes describing their plans to host a private workout 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:58.559 with their clients. For NBA executives. Clutch Sports creates their 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:06.360 own version of a bat fotball combine. You know, how 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:09.599 can we get creative there, you know, through this pandemic 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.040 and could we stream it and send it to each 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:15.320 individual team. But eventually it was Okay that certain team 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:20.160 personnel could come to Pro Day, but not everyone could come, 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:22.040 or there's limited numbers, and so we're like, all right, 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:25.880 after we're toying with the streaming idea, Rich thinking outside 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:28.880 the box, was like, forget to streaming it. Why don't 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.079 we see if we can get it televised, Like why 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.600 don't we try to put on ESPN. He's talking about 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:37.360 Rich Paul CEO and founder of Clutch Sports, And if 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:41.160 I'm being completely honest, I was like, it's a great idea, 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.520 but I don't can we can it be pulled off? 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.520 Especially given the time frame, like we were up against it. 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:48.800 It wasn't like we had months and months or even 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:52.959 multiple weeks in advance. But we figured it's a unique 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:56.680 way to highlight our guys that have missed out on 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:59.880 such traditional opportunities of playing in March Madness and building 0:09:59.880 --> 0:10:02.480 a fan base going to the Draft combine, And so 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:06.160 we felt like, how can we separate ourselves and give 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:09.800 our guys a platform to have like twenty two minutes 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:13.520 on a nationally broadcasted channel to just kind of introduce 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:17.520 them to the world. Despite the fact the NBA Combine 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:20.480 has been televised in the past, Clutch holding their own 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:24.560 private televised workout for only their clients is a novel move. 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:28.040 The plan evolves into a broadcast on ESPN two with 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:30.480 a small in person crowd. They set the date for 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:34.640 October eight p m. Eastern, otherwise known as Primetime. Here's 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:40.760 which Paul It was like, Oh, okay, we're gonna put 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:45.160 this pro day on. Great, It's on ESPN. Okay, cool, perfect, Okay. 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:47.959 Anthony was in Atlanta. It's simple when I need to 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:51.160 be there, coming a week early because we're gonna practice 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:53.599 at the facility a couple of days before, and he 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:57.360 has some things to get done. Great, And Tyrese was 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:00.120 the same way, and mom and dad were great. There 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:04.080 wasn't a ton of questions for concerns. The pro day 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.679 takes place at the Sports Academy in Los Angeles, California. 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:10.760 Tyrese and Anthony arrived with masks on, and Clutch brings 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:16.480 in reporters to ask questions. We've seen so many great 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:20.520 Kentucky guards find success in the NBA, Tyler Hero, Jamal Murray, 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:23.080 Devin Booker, even bigs like damn out of bio, Why 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:25.800 are you next? I feel like because I can seconly 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:28.000 on to play a role. We go to the wing games, 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.960 you go to the sacrifice coach Kanto that wants sacrifice 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:32.720 player role. And I think I have a lot more 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:36.000 into my game, and I shoot on to bounce, play 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:38.959 picking role, score for myself and with all my head 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.760 and play when I'm off the cage, off the ball. Tyres, 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:44.000 every time we see you playing, you're smiling, You're you're 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.360 feeling to joy. So have fun tonight and in best 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:49.360 of luck. Coming up next, we're gonna see Tyrese Maxie, 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:55.199 potential lottery pick, start his pro day working. Lebron James, 0:11:55.640 --> 0:12:00.880 Anthony Davis, Draymond Green, Trey Young, and other NBA stars 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.480 show up in masks as well socially distancing among team 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:06.880 executives in the crowd. As the two young prospects take 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:10.560 the court and warm up, TV announcer j Billis sets 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:13.800 the stage for what everyone is thinking. It's gonna be 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:15.599 great just to see amount of basketball court for the 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:17.560 first time since March. I know they've been working out, 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:20.360 but they've been working out out a few Tyrese begins 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:39.600 to show off some dribbling and driving and then shooting. Guys, Yeah, yeah, awesome. 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:52.320 Three nice. The confidence is certainly there. You know you 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:56.360 mentioned his production against top teams. This is the reporter 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:59.440 commenting on the elephant in the room, or Jim in 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:02.079 this case, his shooting. To me, he's always been a 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:04.400 big time shot maker who's not afraid of the lights. 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:07.040 It's just about not shooting a flatball and being more consistent. 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:19.680 Come on, come on, Tyrese's shots fall one after another. 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:34.280 Base working on some three pointers, running baseline to baseline. 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:39.400 You can see he is making these shots, and he's 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:41.600 really worked on his shooting mechanics, and I think they're 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:52.040 going to get even better. This clear improvement is a 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:54.520 great sign for tyres and all the teams that are 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:58.000 interested in drafting him. But the truth is playing one 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:01.000 on zero can only tell scouts a limited amount about 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:04.680 how someone will perform in games. There's an infamous NBA 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:07.600 story about a two thousand and seven Milwaukee Bucks prospect 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:11.360 putting on a commanding performance against a folding chair. The 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:14.040 player ended up being pitched six overall, but had a 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:19.040 disappointing career. The dominating offensive performance against the chair didn't 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:21.920 quite translate to scoring against the likes of Kevin Garnett 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:26.080 and Dwight Howard. So in many ways, the performance shows 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:29.520 more about Tyrese's work, ethic and commitment to improve than 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:33.360 anything else. Back in, Eddie Edwards antires Maxie pro Day, 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.880 getting ready to watch Edwards go. Now Matica is finished up, 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:46.880 Anthony takes the court and begins his workout. Knock down, 0:14:47.560 --> 0:15:03.640 knock down, what come? Anthony misses a shot, and then another, 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:07.160 and then the next four jump shots in a row 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:24.280 that don't fall. You know. Anthony finishes his workout with 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:29.960 a couple of monstrous dunks. Then he answers a few 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:32.880 quick questions. Do you feel like you showed that you 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:36.240 should be the number one prospect in this class? I 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:38.080 feel like if you had anybody else out here, they 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:40.160 would have been you know how to prayer for the 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:43.680 whole time, starstruck with all these guys on the sideline, 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:45.640 and I feel like I'm just ready just because I've 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:47.920 been grinding eight months. I hadn't claimed about to draft me. 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:50.920 It puts back I just like it with better way. 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:53.800 You weren't phased. You had like I started Lebron out 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:55.200 of the seat one of the days of all time. 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:57.800 So trust of workout appreciate your time and thank you 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:00.440 so much for answering. The day seems like a success 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:03.440 to the Clutch Sports team, but the response from other agents, 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:06.680 the media, and the internet trends in the opposite direction. 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:12.040 Anthony's form as shots in a row become a huge 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:15.120 talking point. Some claim he's not even in shape anymore. 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:19.160 Anonymous agents denounced the televised pro day on social media 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:22.000 and in stories by The New York Post, The Athletic 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:26.680 Bleacher Report and elsewhere, calling it unfair for Clutches clients, 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:30.440 insulting Rich Paul, and demanding the NBA stopped the practice. 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:34.200 Their agent, Omar Wilkes shares his thoughts on the situation. 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:40.720 I'm told our competitors didn't love it, but that means 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:42.920 you kind of doing something right, you know, if we're 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:46.200 being honest, and I'm trying not to be super sensitive, 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:47.640 a lot of people are like, oh, you know, Anthony 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:50.240 might have heard his draft stock. You know, people people 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:52.760 like to do that because it's you take shots at us. 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:56.440 I don't want to to delve into that, but I'm 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:58.520 really proud of what we're able to do in the 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:01.080 innovative way. We're able to make something work in a 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:04.040 pandemic and highlight our guys. So I'm happy with how 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:07.520 everything turned out. Anthony has interviewed about the fallout on 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:10.919 the ESPN is the Jump and here's Tyrese watching his 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:14.120 friend during the interview New and Tires Max. They took 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:16.439 part in that made for TV Pro Day And just 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:20.119 like always, everyone has an opinion, right and there are 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:22.280 some criticism. What do you have to say to the 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:25.120 people who did not like what y'all did? I really 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:27.000 have nothing to say to him. I just hope they 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:29.600 stay blessed and you know, find a way to get 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:31.560 better every day like I do. I don't really care 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:36.840 about the critics of the pro Day, having experience like 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:42.320 for you exclude Tyrese can laugh it off because his 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:44.960 pro Day was viewed positively for the most part. Some 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:48.400 sources even indicate his improved shooting could move him into 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:52.680 the top ten picks. Enrich Paul shares his client sentiments 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:55.480 as far as like the criticism from a pro Day 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:59.359 perspective just a bunch of wining to me, I really 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:02.600 didn't pay attention to that. Again, that was just an 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:06.639 idea that came from me just trying to think of 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:09.280 better way to position these guys as they're going to 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:13.040 the draft, and had nothing to do with me trying 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:15.720 to show how smart I am or clutch trying to 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:18.800 show how smart we were. We were literally just trying 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:23.320 to do what we felt was best for clients and 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:27.320 it worked because content was low. ESPN thought it was 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:30.440 a good idea. We had the talking points, we had 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:35.719 the storylines. Ah, and we're gonna do it again. How 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:39.920 could you criticize as was there to criticize. You're taking 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:44.280 two kids who didn't finish your college season, who don't 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:48.960 have the ability to go to an NBA combine as 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:55.919 it normally is. Position, Putting these guys on ESPN for 0:18:55.960 --> 0:19:00.359 an hour showcasing something that they may have and doing 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:03.760 for the last five or six months and technically all 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:09.200 of their basketball lives. There's no negative to that. Now. 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:12.280 Could you say there's a negative risk of injury? Yeah, 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:14.560 but you can you can have injury just playing pick 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:16.879 up or just working out or just getting out the 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:20.720 shower if you want to be that technical. Could you say, well, 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:26.040 Anthony Edwards is the number one pick projected, and why 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:29.280 put them on TV and he missed four shots in 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:32.399 the row. Well, he has to play on TV in 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:34.280 his profession or do you think they play the games 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:42.480 at Yeah, so he's gonna miss a lot. So you 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:45.000 might as well start preparing yourself. Now. You know what, 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:48.240 if people want to find something to criticize, they'll find it. 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:50.919 Whether you choose to pay attention to it or not 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:53.919 up to the individual. I just so happened to be 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:55.880 one of those individuals that really don't give a ship. 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:20.640 We'll be right back. The media reaction and fallout isn't 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:23.800 a once in a career isolated event. Rich Paul has 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:26.800 been involved in other high profile controversies in the past, 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:30.600 and in the n C double A implemented a list 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:34.159 of qualifications that sports agents were required to have to 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:39.159 sign players, including a bachelor's degree, something immediately deemed the 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:42.520 Rich Paul rule since many of the requirements appeared to 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:57.560 be aimed directly at him. Let's go at all. Rich 0:20:57.560 --> 0:21:00.040 gets on the phone with Calvin Andrews, a C and 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:03.080 your agent at Clutch to discuss the difficulties of their business. 0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:07.800 I just think that the more the more these kids 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:10.400 are educated and their families are educated. I just think 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:14.600 the better the better the business is because either way 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:17.360 we're dealing with a situation where, you know, a lot 0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:20.639 of times you see things going to the media. You 0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:23.679 don't know what to believe. This perception in the media, 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:27.240 like what happened after the pro day versus the realities 0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:30.920 of the NBA, is a recurring issue they face as agents. 0:21:30.960 --> 0:21:34.359 We've been in situations where somebody call you and say, well, 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:36.920 what do you think about this? What? That's not an offer, 0:21:37.640 --> 0:21:39.679 you know, and so that goes to the media, and 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:45.000 then these young men and people around, Oh, we got offered. 0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:48.639 No you didn't, that's not an offer. The money's dried up. 0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:52.120 There's definitely not seventy million dollars out there for you, 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:56.479 and I'm not sure if that was even real or not. 0:21:56.760 --> 0:21:59.480 You know, somebody can say what you think about a 0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:02.520 hundred million dollars and only ten million of it is guaranteed, 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:04.800 So what are you talking about? You have to look 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:10.440 at the value of everything, your contract and my brand equity, 0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:14.840 how I'm perceived. There's a value in perception. You know. 0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:16.359 We went through the same thing with k C. P. 0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:21.119 That's shooting guard Cantabious Caldwell Pope, another former University of 0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:24.200 Georgia Starr who resigned with the Lakers this offseason for 0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:27.959 forty million dollars. Oh well, we already got offered eight 0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:32.560 where's the offer? I never received that. I never received that. 0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:37.200 But you know, you got these agents, they put stuff 0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:41.400 out whatever. I don't really care. But if you look 0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:45.639 at what he did, he stayed in, told did what 0:22:45.720 --> 0:22:48.520 he had to do. Now he's exceeded that and he's 0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:52.040 a champion. But you got to grind it out and 0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:54.840 you do the work. He'd done the work k C 0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:59.840 P did the work. Cap had been playing on one 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:03.240 two year deals since his rookie contract. This three year, 0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:07.399 forty billion dollars signing was his first longer term, higher 0:23:07.440 --> 0:23:11.280 paying contract. You bring up a good plane, and that's 0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:13.159 what I you know, I see it, and you see it. 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:16.840 The kids said, don't shortcuts, right. They don't want to grind, 0:23:16.880 --> 0:23:19.080 you know, they don't want to work. They want what 0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:22.399 they think should happen right now. And it's only a 0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:26.280 few guys that that that's in that sort of situations, right, 0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:30.399 You've got to grind it out, follow the plan, and 0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:36.040 be patient, yes, said every level, at every level, every level. 0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:41.000 And that's that's what gets frustrating. For what you and 0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:44.439 I do day day when they don't play attention, they 0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:46.320 don't follow the plan. They think they got to answer, 0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:48.280 so they brother got to answer. They don't for got 0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:51.040 to answer, and they want to they want it now. 0:23:51.800 --> 0:23:55.200 They don't work out. But here's the thing. Through my experience, 0:23:56.080 --> 0:23:59.720 we work with all families. When when everyone is on 0:23:59.760 --> 0:24:04.639 the same page and and everyone is willing to be educated, 0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:09.720 it works like a marriage. It's fantastic. I've experienced it 0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:13.240 time and time and time again with brothers, with mothers, 0:24:13.240 --> 0:24:18.680 with fathers. I've experienced it. But I can honestly say 0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:26.879 it works better when it starts from day one, not 0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:31.760 day one thousand, you know. Because yeah, because because we 0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:34.359 also have the perception that we can turn water into wine. 0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:40.399 We put a program together where you buy in, you 0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:45.119 get paid, you buy in, you benefit. That's the business 0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:49.280 we're in. We're in the buy in benefit business. Because 0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:53.560 again Tyrese Max is a prime example. He's gonna be 0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:57.680 a good pro for a long time because you don't 0:24:57.760 --> 0:25:00.680 have to tell him anything, tell him in time. He's 0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:02.880 doing it. Kid was here for five months, worked out 0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:06.479 twice a day, six in the morning, never late, never missed. 0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:13.480