WEBVTT - “I AM A TROUBLED DELIVERY MAN”

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hello, can you hear me?

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<v Speaker 2>Sir?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, sir? What is your name?

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<v Speaker 1>My name is a sicklist sicklists?

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<v Speaker 3>What kind of name is that? Is that Greek something?

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, dude, it's it's a fucking name that my

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<v Speaker 1>girl gave me because my real name is I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of put it together, I guess, you know, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's my real name is Nicholas, but sounds kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, well, I sick. I'm gonna forget that. I'm just gonna, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>can I call you Nick?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Here's the here's the thing in like, in my like

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<v Speaker 3>I to me, ideally this podcast would be completely anonymous,

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<v Speaker 3>and it pretty much is like if like, if it

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<v Speaker 3>were up to me. You know, there's this podcast that's

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<v Speaker 3>called Beautiful Stories from Anonymous People that this comedian Chris

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<v Speaker 3>Gethard does, and you know, I mean I listened to

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<v Speaker 3>that when I was in high school, and is you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it is definitely an inspiration for this thing, and uh,

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<v Speaker 3>for him, it is I don't think he even does names.

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<v Speaker 3>And I want to do it like that because I

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<v Speaker 3>forget everyone's name anyway, and ideally and ideally this should

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<v Speaker 3>just be anonymous. So part of me is like I

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<v Speaker 3>should just start instead of asking everyone what their name is,

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<v Speaker 3>I should just give them a name. But then if

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<v Speaker 3>I need to put like in conversation, I let Sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>I like to address people by their names, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>a pot you can't really do that if you're talking

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<v Speaker 3>to an anonymous person, you could say you could you

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<v Speaker 3>could be like like on Reddit when they're like, so,

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<v Speaker 3>ann In, what do you tell me more? You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's weird. That's like lait speak or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm just gonna call you Nick is basically what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's fine. You could call me like like.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't want to do that at all. I

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<v Speaker 3>really really don't want to call you that. What were

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<v Speaker 3>you going to say?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, Nick's fine, dude, that's totally cool. I'm down

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<v Speaker 1>for that ship. Nick is a good name. But I

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<v Speaker 1>called you. Did you read my text or no? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>So basically, I guess it's not like I guess it's

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<v Speaker 1>basically I guess it gives like awareness to like like

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<v Speaker 1>something that's going on in my company, and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of nationwide, like in the US. So I live

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<v Speaker 1>in I live in a certain state where it's like

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<v Speaker 1>hot as fuck, but it's it's kind of like deadly

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<v Speaker 1>doing my job. And we work outside and so let

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<v Speaker 1>me let me just start over. I work at a UPS.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a driver, right, and it's a lot of physical

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<v Speaker 1>fucking work. The ship sucks, it's pretty horrible, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good pay. A little bit ago, back in last August,

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<v Speaker 1>we were planning to go on strike for for like

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<v Speaker 1>a new contract. So every like three to four years,

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<v Speaker 1>you had a contract with our union, Teamsters union. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>if we don't come to like a contract negotiations as UPS,

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<v Speaker 1>there's we go on shrike. So one of the big

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<v Speaker 1>caveats for last strike was we get air conditionings in

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<v Speaker 1>a truck. And I don't know if you noticed, but

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<v Speaker 1>whenever you get your package deliver or you see a

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<v Speaker 1>UPS driver, there's no air conditioning in that bitch.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, okay, So I never knew that. I never knew

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<v Speaker 3>there was no air conditioning, But like, there's no correct

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm wrong. There's no like fucking doors at the

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<v Speaker 3>UPS truck either, right, So it's all it's open, how

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<v Speaker 3>I guess. First of all, I didn't know that there

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<v Speaker 3>was air conditioning that I didn't know that there wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>air conditioning. But I guess if there were air conditioning,

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't it like I don't know how anything fucking works,

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<v Speaker 3>but wouldn't the air conditioning like blow out from the

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<v Speaker 3>open door?

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<v Speaker 1>Right right? No, you're right. So actually they're sliding doors

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<v Speaker 1>on the left and right, so you could close the

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<v Speaker 1>doors and open them. But the reason why we always

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<v Speaker 1>had the doors open because there is no air conditioning.

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<v Speaker 1>That is like the air blowing through our trucks, that's

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<v Speaker 1>our air condition.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh so there is Okay, so there are doors, but

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<v Speaker 3>you guys use them because as hot as fuck?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, what do you guys do? Do you guys use

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<v Speaker 3>those doors in the winter? I guess I can. I don't,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't, I never. I don't know if I remember

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<v Speaker 3>seeing a UPS truck in the winter. I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Yeah, yes, sir, we sorry, I call you start.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just manners and stuff like that, So I apologize.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have to apologize for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, Yeah, I'm sorry. I also drink like a

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<v Speaker 1>CBD like THAC like cycle frog right now, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>just fucking starting to kick right now. So I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to anyway, I'm sorry your question was again.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I I don't even remember. Go ahead,

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<v Speaker 3>go ahead, though I feel like I didn't let you

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<v Speaker 3>finish the whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh but no, there is first sliding doors for the

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<v Speaker 1>winter time and everything like that, and that's what we

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<v Speaker 1>used to keep us f freezing our asses off. We

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<v Speaker 1>do have good fucking eaters, I'll tell you that. But

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<v Speaker 1>eventually everything breaks in the truck and it's it just

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<v Speaker 1>goes down from here, dude. So yeah, it's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>not good. But anyway, so basically we're fighting for air

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<v Speaker 1>conditions in a truck. And then UPS kind of put

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<v Speaker 1>like our pay salary on blast and letting ever know,

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<v Speaker 1>letting like the public know how much money we make,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's we do not make that much money. We

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<v Speaker 1>make good money, but we don't make that fucking much

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<v Speaker 1>money as they say we do. And they were kind of,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, use the public against us because we had

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<v Speaker 1>everyone riding us for riding our back for the content

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<v Speaker 1>negotiations because again, like you didn't know. I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 1>everyone that's stream or chat doesn't know that Ups, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have air conditions in a truck anyway, Basically, what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to say is, so that happened, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>so this previous years before that, we've had drivers like

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<v Speaker 1>literally passed out and died like from heat dishaustion, heat stroke,

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<v Speaker 1>and it never makes the news or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's actually pretty fucking sad. Recently a few months ago, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been trying to call you a lot about this

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<v Speaker 1>when it was more frequent, but I mean, I know

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<v Speaker 1>you got a lot of people on that bitch calling in,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, recent people have died, you know, in our state,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's been pretty shitty, and honestly, like UPS hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>really done anything about it either. They haven't put it

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't been made the news. There's like a small like

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook group maybe about the guy that passed away in

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<v Speaker 1>his funeral date, and I don't know, it's been really shitty.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess I'm just really calling to, like, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>spread awareness that, like, hey, you know, UPS, drivers still

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<v Speaker 1>haven't gotten that fucking AC and honestly, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like really fucking sad. What's going on right now?

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<v Speaker 1>What's I guess with our people?

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<v Speaker 3>And I guess this sounds like something that like John

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<v Speaker 3>Oliver would cover.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I can't get in contact with John Oliver. I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll you'll, yeah, you'll, you'll, you'll take me as a consolation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you're your net stuff gig. But yeah, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>that the shit that's going on right now.

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<v Speaker 3>So so they Okay, when you said they tried to

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<v Speaker 3>use their pay I gets you because I remember hearing

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<v Speaker 3>something about like people were going on about like ups

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<v Speaker 3>drivers were making a lot of money. Is that is

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<v Speaker 3>that true? It is that like a thing that they

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<v Speaker 3>tried to do to make you, like get people to

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<v Speaker 3>support you less.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like so, I mean there's like a at

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<v Speaker 1>a top rate and if you're getting like forty plus

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<v Speaker 1>hours working over time, and then it because our benefits

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<v Speaker 1>are free, like we don't have to pay dental, eye care,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, medical. Sorry, that's my cat right there. She

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<v Speaker 1>wants to say hello. But I mean, if you calculate everything,

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<v Speaker 1>how much money we say from that? I mean penically, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>But like, by the way, hold on, I just want you.

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<v Speaker 3>I just put you in something. I can tell that

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<v Speaker 3>you're being coy about this, and uh, just so you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no number that you could that you could say

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<v Speaker 3>where where I would be like, you know what, you

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<v Speaker 3>make a lot of money, you actually deserve to pass

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<v Speaker 3>out and die. Yeah, you know, so you don't have

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<v Speaker 3>to be coy about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, I appreciate that. Thanks for letting me know. Yeah, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>because we always like anytime anyone talks about like friends

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<v Speaker 1>of ups stuff, like they go to the news, there's

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<v Speaker 1>retaliation and god forbid, there's retaliation. I'm pretty sure that

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<v Speaker 1>of my supervisors, any of my bosses here the ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Or retaliation against uh who like me, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you spread this information to the public. YadA, YadA, YadA.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's like, well what if what information?

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<v Speaker 3>What what misinformation are you being accused of spreading to

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<v Speaker 3>the public?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, just like people are dying. Like they're gonna say like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>no one dies. It's like no, there's plenty of people

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<v Speaker 1>that die. There's like several several drivers that die yearly

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<v Speaker 1>on this shit. I don't know, I'm just being like paranoid,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, but I mean, I mean it's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you guys get the air conditioning?

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, we still haven't gotten the air conditioning. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. If we had that air conditioning. That

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<v Speaker 1>guy that passed away recently, like and along several other people,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that should wouldn't have happened, you know, they don't.

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<v Speaker 1>They say they're gonna provide ice machines for us. We

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<v Speaker 1>haven't gotten ice machines. We haven't gone coolers, we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>gotten the air conditioning, we haven't got like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>events throughout the truck. You know, because like it's one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and five and it's like one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>back in the truck. Dude, it's fucking brutal. Dude, it's

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<v Speaker 1>fucking is fucking brutal work. And it's especially during COVID. Dude,

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<v Speaker 1>we were like humping out a two hundred, two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty stops easily, and then there's been several days

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<v Speaker 1>that did three hundred stops and I don't know, we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really do anything. Our union can really do anything

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<v Speaker 1>about that. Like demand it's more money because we're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to get hazard pay. But rumor of several rumors have

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<v Speaker 1>gone around saying that like ups pocketed that fucking hazard

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<v Speaker 1>pay from us.

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<v Speaker 3>What what? What? What? What was the circumstance that you

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<v Speaker 3>guys were getting hazard pay under.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we're working as like essential workers during COVID like

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twelve, right, ye.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sure, sure, sure, Okay, So you guys were supposed to,

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<v Speaker 3>like the government mandated, did you got like hazard.

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<v Speaker 1>Pay right basically yes, yes, sir, And then.

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<v Speaker 3>And the UPS was like, oh, we're gonna take that money.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean we didn't see a diamond d or

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<v Speaker 1>like hey when we supposed to get hazard pay. And

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<v Speaker 1>then everyone was in the dark about that shit until

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty twenty two were we all found it and

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<v Speaker 1>we're pissed. We were fucking furious. And then when a

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<v Speaker 1>strike started coming getting to talk in twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when we're that's when we're all going to like

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<v Speaker 1>strike and like you know, not going to work and like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, put her put our cricket signs up basically

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<v Speaker 1>to good.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you do you think UPS will come back and

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<v Speaker 3>be like, okay, it's a no one on the air conditioning,

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<v Speaker 3>but we're going to give every UPS driver one glass

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<v Speaker 3>of lemonade.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, they probably want to give us that. They'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>us to fucking suck it up.

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<v Speaker 3>So uh how well, so, uh are you like there's

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<v Speaker 3>a union.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, we're unionized company, probably one of the last

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<v Speaker 1>ones besides like nationwide, I guess, especially in tech.

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<v Speaker 3>Do the wait do the other guys have like, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>like the ups guys, do they go over the FedEx?

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<v Speaker 3>Like are you ever like at a bar and you're

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<v Speaker 3>talking to a FedEx guy and You're like, do you

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<v Speaker 3>guys have air conditioning? Do you guys have any of

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<v Speaker 3>the ship or is it just like the like up

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<v Speaker 3>usps and FedEx and all those other guys. Do they

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<v Speaker 3>have air conditioning or is well we're having you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Amazon drivers, they have their conditioning for sure, but

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the Feedest people, it's kind of like the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing. If they do have air conditioning the ship broke,

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<v Speaker 1>they're like management is going to probably keep it broken,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. And then like the post office,

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<v Speaker 1>they have like those little vans that they drive in

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<v Speaker 1>for the post office workers. And I've been told by

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<v Speaker 1>a few of them because I'm work cool with them

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<v Speaker 1>too as well, sort of that's naturally not really some

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<v Speaker 1>of them are cool. Some of them are rolled dickheads

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<v Speaker 1>on the post office people, but they have told me

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<v Speaker 1>their air conditioning.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, hold out way what's the can can you

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<v Speaker 3>keep me in on a little bit of the UPS

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<v Speaker 3>versus post Yeah, the UPS versus postal workers beef. I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I would think that you guys had some solidarity. But

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<v Speaker 3>what's there they like chat? Are they like chads or

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<v Speaker 3>something like? Are they margined?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no no no. If anything, we're the fucking chads

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like the bitches.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess well, by the way everyone everyone thinks that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they're the chads and the other people are

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<v Speaker 3>the pitches.

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<v Speaker 1>But go ahead, Well, so they have a weak union,

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<v Speaker 1>They don't get paid as much as we do. They

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<v Speaker 1>are government workers, which is like really fucking good. We

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<v Speaker 1>have to in contract with UPS, have to give them

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<v Speaker 1>work like we had to give him, like work like

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<v Speaker 1>smaller packages like let's say, like a small Sephora bots

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<v Speaker 1>or something, or like a like a t move bots

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<v Speaker 1>and shit like that. We have to give it to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Under contrast, so they actually have work. So if anything,

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<v Speaker 1>we're giving them work to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Basically, have you just like met a bunch of have

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<v Speaker 3>you just like met a bunch of UPS people that

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<v Speaker 3>are like just I mean a UPS, Like, have you

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<v Speaker 3>just met a bunch of postal worker people who are

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<v Speaker 3>just like fix personality.

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<v Speaker 1>Wise, Yeah, dude, there wasn't. Some guy he was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're just supposed to go over there and

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<v Speaker 1>out of here. I'm like, well, fucking you do it, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't doing that ship. Yeah, and he's like, broll

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fuck you. And I was like, oh, go,

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<v Speaker 1>fucking I don't give a ship, dude. I mean, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>get your go, get your manager. We'll talk. And he's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>he's kind of a dick. I'm like, yeah, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>you get your man, get your fucking employee under wraps man.

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<v Speaker 1>But most of them are pretty cool. But that one guy. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I fucking hated that guy. I forgot his name. He

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<v Speaker 1>was like a little dough boy that was really rude

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<v Speaker 1>and mean, you know what I mean. So, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>he was ashole to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that. You know, during the pandemic, all these

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<v Speaker 3>like advertisements would play and it was it was there's

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<v Speaker 3>a strong sentiment of like, our nation's postal workers are,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the backbone of society, and you're just like

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<v Speaker 3>that guy's they're a bunch of fucking doe boys.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck out of here. Nah, bro, it was UPS like

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<v Speaker 1>fucking and and Amazon. I don't know, dude, but here's.

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<v Speaker 3>What you have to use you to. Here's what you

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<v Speaker 3>have to understand is I don't like I like, like

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<v Speaker 3>us fat people who are ordering things on the internet

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<v Speaker 3>and not leaving our house and using all your guys's services.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. I don't. I think the layman probably doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>think that much about the difference between all of these entities.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just like, we order a thing, a truck comes by,

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<v Speaker 3>driven by some person, and they give us our thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think. I think the average person probably isn't

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<v Speaker 3>thinking too much about like UPS versus USPS versus FedEx

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever. They're just like, I want my stuff and

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<v Speaker 3>it's cool that someone delivers it. I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>That might not be true, that might not be true.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I'm projecting.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean, it looks cool in the truck.

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<v Speaker 1>I've known several dudes that said, bro, man like the

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<v Speaker 1>fucking uniform does have to job meet with chicks. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you mean, like all brock out the ship's number.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, wow, I never had that.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, wait, which what who did he work for?

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<v Speaker 1>You know all ups drivers. I said, oh yeah, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>this chick on route, Bro, you flirt with me. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh really, like wait.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait man, that's so that's fucking that's so awesome that

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<v Speaker 3>you can get on rayah by being uh a postal worker.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the coolest thing I've ever heard. That's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I've heard several stories of dudes and shapes on

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<v Speaker 1>route and ship like that, and it's just like a

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<v Speaker 1>whole damn oh my god. Yeah bro, I'm like, get

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck out of here. I'm like, yeah, bro, anyway, yeah, well, well.

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<v Speaker 3>A few things. I mean, it's it's a classic uh well,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean not that porn in any way, shape or

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<v Speaker 3>form mirrors real life, but it's a classic. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>classic fucking porn thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I gotta I don't even want to say it.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah. But but also, like here's the thing, here's

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<v Speaker 3>the as I think I do. I have to assume

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<v Speaker 3>there's something there's something like uh like I think it

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<v Speaker 3>just in general, you know, uh, women are attracted just competence,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, And there's something competent about

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<v Speaker 3>being a postal worker. I got, I got like, there's

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<v Speaker 3>something competent seeming ish, I guess about a guy in uniform,

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<v Speaker 3>like it makes.

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<v Speaker 1>Sense right now? And then I mean I have thought

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<v Speaker 1>to some it's about that, and are like, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we love him in a uniform. I'm like, oh wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's crazy. Also too, we bring joy to people like

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<v Speaker 1>who isn't happy to see the UPS guy? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like you bought a new fucking you know, blow up

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<v Speaker 1>doll and then like, oh shit, this guy has my package.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. You know see what I'm saying, like it

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<v Speaker 1>brings a lot of good joy to everybody else.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'll say this, UPS, probably people are more happy

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<v Speaker 3>to see you than the postal service, because, uh, mail

0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:35.399
<v Speaker 3>can mean several bad things. It can mean bills, it

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<v Speaker 3>can mean jury duty, it can mean scathing letters from

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<v Speaker 3>a nemesis. But a package is usually always an exciting thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, No, absolutely, I know you're right about that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean someone could I could get like a like

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<v Speaker 1>a child support letter, say hey you need pay more

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<v Speaker 1>child support through the mail? Yeah, I know what you mean.

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<v Speaker 3>You are you? Do you have a do you have

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<v Speaker 3>a bastard child?

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<v Speaker 1>I have a child, yes, indeed, yeah, we all do

0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:06.160
<v Speaker 1>at GPS, all every guy there is mostly on child support. Dune.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, are you what do you have a relationship with them?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, yeah, I put my stuff on child support.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck yeah, dude. Oh yeah that's good.

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<v Speaker 3>That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, how old is he?

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<v Speaker 1>She's seven?

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<v Speaker 3>She's seven? Does she think what you do is cool?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>I have driven by the house a few times and like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, showed her inside, and she's thinking, oh, it's

0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:37.560
<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. And then she goes back and watching TV

0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:38.840
<v Speaker 1>and or chilling you out.

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<v Speaker 3>But she gohead, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>She has seen me say hey, dad, I saw you

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<v Speaker 1>in the truck. I'm like where She was like all

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<v Speaker 1>right there at the stoplight, and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>my goodness, you said have said hello to me. I

0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:55.760
<v Speaker 1>would have loved to see you. You know. Yeah, I

0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:57.439
<v Speaker 1>was waving at you and screaming at you, but you

0:18:57.440 --> 0:18:59.359
<v Speaker 1>didn't hear me. I was like, oh, ship, that's like

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<v Speaker 1>an asshole.

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<v Speaker 3>That's cute. Now, Okay, so she yeah, so she she

0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:09.000
<v Speaker 3>thinks your job is cool as much as I guess

0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:14.480
<v Speaker 3>a seven year old can comprehend and think something is cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>That's nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, I mean there has been some There has

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<v Speaker 1>been a few kids that are like want me like

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<v Speaker 1>to they do a little trucker thing, Like, first of all,

0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I can't do that. I only do do a honk.

0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:28.560
<v Speaker 1>And you know, a kids like it. They'll always get

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<v Speaker 1>weighed by people and stuff, you know, like older people,

0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean families and stuff like that. You know, it's

0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:38.000
<v Speaker 1>it's a cool gig. I do like it. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>hot as fuck, that's it. I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>So I guess, uh, what do you believe that you'll

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<v Speaker 3>eventually get your your.

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<v Speaker 1>Your air condition Yeah, so we did it. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>originally we did agree last August, like a day or

0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:00.639
<v Speaker 1>two before we were supposed to go on strike, that

0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:04.000
<v Speaker 1>we would get the air conditionings. But the shitty thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why I think our union is like a

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<v Speaker 1>little week right now, because they gave them up to

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<v Speaker 1>like four years or until the next contract to like

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<v Speaker 1>come up with like you know, retrograde fit trucks with

0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:18.520
<v Speaker 1>air conditionings basically, and we haven't gotten one single fucking

0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:23.200
<v Speaker 1>truck with air conditioning. So I don't know. If they don't,

0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:26.199
<v Speaker 1>then you just keep grieving about it, I guess, and

0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:30.720
<v Speaker 1>bitch about it, and you know, bringing up in the

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<v Speaker 1>next like contra negotiations and that one's gonna take a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of news too, because it's like, oh, ups hasn't

0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:38.760
<v Speaker 1>given any wonder. They haven't held up their end of

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<v Speaker 1>the bargain, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the deal with your your kid's mom? Are you star?

0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:47.480
<v Speaker 3>Are you cool with her?

0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah, I mean sort of. I mean we're cool,

0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:54.040
<v Speaker 1>but we don't like talk or anything like that. We

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<v Speaker 1>only talk whenever it's likely it's our our daughters like hey,

0:20:57.119 --> 0:21:00.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, like okay, you know called, did y'all want

0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:02.760
<v Speaker 1>to meet up here today? And stuff like that, or

0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:03.840
<v Speaker 1>do y'all want to go your line?

0:21:03.920 --> 0:21:08.280
<v Speaker 3>Right? Relationship, there's not you're not fighting, you're not there's

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<v Speaker 3>no custody bat all.

0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:11.920
<v Speaker 1>No, it's a little rough. I mean I'm also having

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<v Speaker 1>like I mean, we're That's like another thing I probably

0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:16.680
<v Speaker 1>want to talk to you about. It was just like

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<v Speaker 1>about like my daughter and stuff like that. She's not

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<v Speaker 1>having she's not having like the best time around me.

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<v Speaker 1>And she was saying like, hey, dude, like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel that comfortable around you. And as my seven year

0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:35.200
<v Speaker 1>old daughter, I was like, oh, what is everything all right? Said? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, your daughter, your seven year old daughter said I

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<v Speaker 3>don't feel comfortable around you.

0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's I don't want to beat my dad anymore.

0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:45.680
<v Speaker 1>And she's like that. I was like, wait, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I'm just trying to figure out if I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know at school or teaching her about boundaries and

0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:54.000
<v Speaker 1>shit like that and all these extra things. Mean, boundaries

0:21:54.040 --> 0:21:55.879
<v Speaker 1>are cool. I get that for kids, But like, you know,

0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:57.440
<v Speaker 1>she's telling me, I don't really want to hang out

0:21:57.440 --> 0:21:58.680
<v Speaker 1>with you. I don't really want to talk to you.

0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:00.040
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, damn, bro.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's that's weird. Damn. Why why do you think

0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:05.840
<v Speaker 3>she's saying that I would be mortified?

0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:08.439
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea. I mean, I think because she's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of confused about the whole situation because being that

0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:15.719
<v Speaker 1>the co parent never were ever together, and she had

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<v Speaker 1>kind of kept me away from my kid. Actually that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of she like blocked my number and I had

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<v Speaker 1>to play like telephone through her parents and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, there was there was like a like a whole

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<v Speaker 3>ass like there was like a custody battle kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I suit her, yeah, and then I put

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<v Speaker 1>my challenge support Yeah absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, but now but now you and you

0:22:34.480 --> 0:22:35.800
<v Speaker 3>and her are like cordial.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean she's asking for more money and everything

0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:40.760
<v Speaker 1>like that because we got to raise And I'm like, well,

0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean like it's not really like because she was

0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:45.520
<v Speaker 1>like yeah, you know, she'd have a choice and yeah

0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:49.480
<v Speaker 1>yah yeaha. I'm like, oh yeah, so it's like a

0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:51.800
<v Speaker 1>whole thing right now. It's kind of annoying, and I'm

0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:53.760
<v Speaker 1>trying to see if I'm making the right decisions or not.

0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:57.639
<v Speaker 1>That's it really, you know, I'm just taking care of

0:22:57.640 --> 0:23:02.840
<v Speaker 1>my kid basically. I mean yeah, I mean she's she's

0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:05.159
<v Speaker 1>a good kid. I paid my child's sport and I

0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:06.520
<v Speaker 1>try to taught to her. I want to go to

0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:08.199
<v Speaker 1>her school event she doesn't want me to go, and

0:23:08.240 --> 0:23:10.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm like all right, then, well I just called in.

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:13.000
<v Speaker 3>For why does why doesn't she want you to go?

0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:16.560
<v Speaker 1>I already asked a few people about this, and then

0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:18.480
<v Speaker 1>people say, oh, you think the mom's saying she didn't

0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't think that's her character though. I don't

0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:24.240
<v Speaker 1>believe that, Like I could be just like stupid as

0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:26.679
<v Speaker 1>hell and try to think the best of people, but

0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't see that from her. She's always been like, hey,

0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:30.960
<v Speaker 1>if you're going to say by to your dad and

0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:32.720
<v Speaker 1>you say goodbye. You can't just hang up, you know,

0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:34.840
<v Speaker 1>and like, hey, your dad's talking to you, you know,

0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:38.159
<v Speaker 1>like you asked you a question, you know, or you know,

0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:40.119
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. So I don't think. I think my

0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:42.439
<v Speaker 1>daughter just really just going through some shit. I don't know.

0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:45.480
<v Speaker 1>She said she feels very anxious about like a lot

0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:50.720
<v Speaker 1>of stuff, and she's she's saying, are you even my dad?

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:53.280
<v Speaker 1>And like are you even my mom? You know, she's

0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:56.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of like trying to like she's not really understanding everything,

0:23:56.440 --> 0:23:59.600
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know, it's just like a whole thing.

0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:01.800
<v Speaker 1>I guess. I don't fucking know. It's rough.

0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:09.160
<v Speaker 3>So like you think it's like it's so people you're

0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:12.760
<v Speaker 3>like friends have been like like, oh, maybe the mom

0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:15.320
<v Speaker 3>is like putting ideas in her head, but you're like, no,

0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:17.479
<v Speaker 3>I don't. I don't think that's that's of her character.

0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:20.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's her. Yeah. I mean I think

0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:23.480
<v Speaker 1>she understands, like, hey, Lucy needs a father. I'm glad

0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:26.920
<v Speaker 1>you came back. I wish it was sooner. I'm like, oh,

0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:30.320
<v Speaker 1>eat a dick. But I mean, I mean, like I

0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:31.880
<v Speaker 1>had to do what I had to do and stuff

0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:33.679
<v Speaker 1>like that. You know, I had to get to this

0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:37.920
<v Speaker 1>ups position i'm at. It took a while, and that's

0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:41.120
<v Speaker 1>why I'm there. Just that's the only reason why I'm there,

0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:43.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, because it made good money. I'm able to

0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:46.480
<v Speaker 1>put myself on child supports or my daughter, you know,

0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:50.320
<v Speaker 1>live a decent life, because's life suspensive. And yeah. So,

0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:55.200
<v Speaker 1>but what I'm trying to say is I don't think.

0:24:55.280 --> 0:24:57.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that. I don't think she's telling her,

0:24:57.600 --> 0:24:59.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, like, hey, you know, like you know, you're

0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:02.240
<v Speaker 1>dad doesn't love he's not really your dad, he doesn't

0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:05.359
<v Speaker 1>respect you. No, she's saying, hey, if you push your

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:08.359
<v Speaker 1>boundaries and you know, listen to her, like, this is

0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:10.960
<v Speaker 1>what she's gonna remember. Nick. I just know that she's

0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:12.879
<v Speaker 1>what she's gonna remember, and she's gonna remember, Oh, my

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:15.960
<v Speaker 1>dad doesn't give a fuck about me or has to

0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:18.720
<v Speaker 1>hear what I have to say, you know, And yeah,

0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I starts crying and everything like that. At least his

0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:21.639
<v Speaker 1>daughter wants to say a low to me.

0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:27.240
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, second, you have a second daughter.

0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh it's my cat and that's my daughter.

0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:30.640
<v Speaker 3>That's why I thought I thought you were talking about

0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 3>a dog or some shit. So I will I man. Well,

0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:36.199
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry to hear that. Man, it sounds like, uh,

0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:41.240
<v Speaker 3>that sounds very difficult, but I get I would I

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:46.280
<v Speaker 3>would think that, Like if I would think that, like

0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:51.040
<v Speaker 3>if at complete bare minimum you are like present in

0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:56.720
<v Speaker 3>your child's life and you support them financially, uh, and

0:25:57.000 --> 0:26:01.520
<v Speaker 3>you go try to be invested in their well being

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<v Speaker 3>and in what they are doing in their life, like

0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:07.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, just like being a fucking regular ass dad.

0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:12.600
<v Speaker 3>I would I would think that, you know, they would

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:14.359
<v Speaker 3>they would not grow up to resent you.

0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she I mean like I I tell my girlfriend

0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:21.879
<v Speaker 1>like or I tell them like I guess my other

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:24.679
<v Speaker 1>friends like give me rechars, like, well, you're putting your

0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 1>best be forward. Do you want to be there? Right

0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm like yeah, I'm showing up. And then she just

0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:28.960
<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to hang out as I'll come out of

0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:31.920
<v Speaker 1>her room and you know, hang out with me because

0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:34.160
<v Speaker 1>right now I have visitations. I've been doing the visitations.

0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:36.400
<v Speaker 1>So because my daughter didn't know who I was until

0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:39.680
<v Speaker 1>she was like three. Wow, So I wanted to Yeah,

0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 1>I wanted Yeah, I wanted to like gain it like

0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:45.200
<v Speaker 1>a organic relationship with her, not for not like hey,

0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:48.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm this stranger is taking you away. I was trying

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:50.600
<v Speaker 1>to build an organic relationship with her, and it took

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:52.560
<v Speaker 1>a while. It took a long It took like two

0:26:52.640 --> 0:26:54.320
<v Speaker 1>years to where it to really get good, you know,

0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:57.560
<v Speaker 1>like every week you know, every weekend, you know, just

0:26:57.680 --> 0:27:00.560
<v Speaker 1>constantly just going over there, visiting her, play with her,

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 1>going get on her level. And then right now I

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:06.359
<v Speaker 1>was planning to, like, you know, you know, try to

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:08.119
<v Speaker 1>take her for the weekend officially, just me and her

0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:10.639
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. But this shit kind of sparked

0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 1>up a few months ago and it's kind of put

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:16.439
<v Speaker 1>a damper on my plans. And my lawyer's like, that's bullshit, bro,

0:27:16.560 --> 0:27:19.959
<v Speaker 1>you need eline need to fucking just get the standard. Bro.

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:22.679
<v Speaker 1>You're paying all this fucking money, you know, you might

0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:25.160
<v Speaker 1>as well. It's it's her mom putting things in her heads.

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, but I don't I know her. I

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 1>don't I know her not enough to like not be

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:33.560
<v Speaker 1>a piece of shit mom, you know, because like her

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 1>dad didn't have a father and stuff like that, and

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:39.120
<v Speaker 1>so she knows how important is to have a dad

0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:40.879
<v Speaker 1>and everything like that. Basically that's what it is.

0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:45.200
<v Speaker 3>So I will watch them, can I Well, by the way,

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:48.560
<v Speaker 3>you can you know you don't have to talk about anything,

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:49.919
<v Speaker 3>you know I talk about, But like, you, why did

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:53.879
<v Speaker 3>you only see her when she was three?

0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Because my co parent she like kept me away from

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:02.720
<v Speaker 1>my daughter, like she blocked my number. I would try

0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 1>to go over and see her and it's like, hey,

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 1>we're not there, and I will say, you know, fucking

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 1>enough enough, I'm gonna be president my daughter's life. And

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 1>that's why I suit her. And I mean the only

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 1>time I was able to see her, it was like

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't talk to my co parent who had to

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:21.720
<v Speaker 1>I had to contact her dad and then we would

0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:24.360
<v Speaker 1>have to talk, you know, back and forth, like hey,

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, does this day work? Yeah, We'll be here

0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 1>and I'll be there for like an hour or and

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:30.480
<v Speaker 1>they're like all right, well, well you know, better get going.

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:32.639
<v Speaker 1>I was like, all right, all right, cool, and then

0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:34.680
<v Speaker 1>I got really tired of it. I was like, you

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 1>know what, fuck this. I'm gonna be a part of

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 1>my daughter's life. If I got to pay the money,

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 1>because I had to pay like like eleven hundred dollars

0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:43.720
<v Speaker 1>a month like for child support, and I'm like, fuck it,

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 1>if I got to pay the money, I'll pay the

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 1>fucking money, and you know, and now my daughter knows

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:50.600
<v Speaker 1>who I am, but now she doesn't want any part

0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 1>of me, and sometimes I.

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you're.

0:28:56.880 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 2>So.

0:28:57.200 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 3>So why why was your uh your ex keeping your

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 3>daughter away from you for like for three years, like

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 3>making making this difficult?

0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:12.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean back in, I mean we were both young.

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 1>We planned this child out. Was really stupid of us,

0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 1>and I cheated and I didn't. I know now I'm

0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:21.880
<v Speaker 1>probably made it. I mean, it's not the most biggest

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>mistake in my life, but it caused the riff where

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 1>we're definitely not together and we're never gonna get back together,

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 1>but we have a child together. And so she felt like,

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:34.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, I didn't like because I was still like

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 1>very young. I didn't have like the ups money like

0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I do now, so I couldn't provide a lot of

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:43.080
<v Speaker 1>things for her. And then she resented me for that,

0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 1>resented me because like she felt like I left her.

0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I got kicked out of my parents' place.

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm living on my brother's couch right now.

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 1>I have fucking nothing. I mean, my car's about the breakdown.

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:56.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm give me some time. And she just wasn't satisfied

0:29:56.400 --> 0:30:00.360
<v Speaker 1>with that and just had a whole lot of resentment

0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:03.479
<v Speaker 1>towards me. And then we try to do therapy. Therapist said, hey, bro,

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 1>like she's a little too much and y'all are just

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 1>arguing back and forth. I just can't work with y'all.

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 1>And but basically, long story short, she kept me away

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 1>from my daughter, and you know, I mean that's just

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 1>she just had that resentment towards me from what I know,

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 1>and she thinks she thought I wasn't like a good person.

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Back then, I'm like, I want to do my best, dude.

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'll trying to navigate my life and make

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:28.120
<v Speaker 1>sure I made enough money to keep myself aflow first

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:31.920
<v Speaker 1>before I could help out somebody else. Then when I started,

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I made full time, I started making a lot of money,

0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:36.960
<v Speaker 1>and then I was like, cool, I can make this happen.

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 1>It was very consistent work, very consistent, and then I

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 1>pulled the trigger to go sue her and then get

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 1>my daughter or just to have her in my life,

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, put myself on child support. And it was

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 1>like a six seven months like grueling process legally, and

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 1>it was fucking horrible and probably one of the worst

0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 1>times of my life. And but but here I am now,

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, I don't know if to answer

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:05.480
<v Speaker 1>your question, I guess about why my baby mama was

0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 1>like so press on that keeping me around. You know,

0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 1>I just think she was.

0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure, I mean, well, fuck, I don't know. It

0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 3>sounds to me like, uh, yeah, I guess if you

0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 3>I guess if you hadn't seen her, uh since until

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 3>she was three, I can I don't know. I'm no

0:31:28.880 --> 0:31:31.160
<v Speaker 3>fucking I don't know. I don't understand. I don't know.

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm no family psychologist or whatever. But I guess I

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 3>can understand why she would be uh apprehensive. And yeah,

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 3>the way you phrased it where you were like, I

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 3>want to build a natural relationship, not just like take

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:50.360
<v Speaker 3>her and be like, you know, hey, I'm this new guy. Uh,

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:55.440
<v Speaker 3>because that's probably a crazy difficult integration to make after

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 3>three years. But but I mean still I think, I mean,

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 3>seven is seven. It's like nothing that's so young, you know.

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 3>Another you know, you got eleven years until uh college already,

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:09.200
<v Speaker 3>yeah you got you got it sounds as though there

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 3>was still time to invest yourself deeply in uh in

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 3>this this this this kid's life to the degree that

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 3>I want to to the to the to the to

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:25.320
<v Speaker 3>the level that you want to and we're previously unable

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 3>to do. So, you know, hope, hope, hopefully you get

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 3>that in your air conditioning.

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, no, no, yeah, you stupid. I'm over here

0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:40.440
<v Speaker 1>in my fucking feelings. You bring up air conditioning. Ship. No,

0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that, man, I mean yeah, I mean that's

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:44.960
<v Speaker 1>where I'm at right now. I mean, I don't know.

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 1>I have a meetium with my lawyer on Tuesday, and.

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 3>You wait, wait, you're still you're still you're still fighting

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 3>with this person. I thought everything was.

0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Like because like it's like because our our our temporary

0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 1>order is coming up and we had to finalize something

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:03.520
<v Speaker 1>or the case gets thrown out, and basically all my

0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>hard work has been for nothing.

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 3>So I don't, sorry, I don't, I don't understand. What's

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 3>the what do you mean the case? What's the case.

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's a temporary order we had, like my

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:18.240
<v Speaker 1>daughter and the child support stuff. You know, it's basically

0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:20.960
<v Speaker 1>it was a temporary order that we didn't finalize because

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 1>everything was going pretty good until this year. And yeah,

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, I yeah, the plan was, you know, like

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 1>to keep the temporary order as long as possible so

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 1>we don't have to go through lawyers because fucking lawyers

0:33:35.880 --> 0:33:39.560
<v Speaker 1>are expensive. Maybe we can wear something out, but yeah,

0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It just hasn't been going that way.

0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:44.520
<v Speaker 3>And it's kind of I mean, you guys, are you

0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:47.080
<v Speaker 3>guys not cordial enough that you that you just can't

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 3>work out some kind of schedule independently.

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Well right now not. I can't have her by myself

0:33:57.200 --> 0:33:59.320
<v Speaker 1>before she starts panicking in when in her mom and

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 1>sh like that. It just freaking the fuck out, you

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? Does that make sense? Yeah? I don't.

0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to put her through that. I've seen

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 1>her cry before and get like stressed out and like anxious,

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 1>and it breaks my heart to see that ship. So

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, I know, I.

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:18.320
<v Speaker 3>Get I get I get you, and I you know,

0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 3>I respect that. I respect that you're like, uh, from

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 3>my perspective at least you know, you know, the past. Notwithstanding,

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:33.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm just I'm like, you know, I think I'll say

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:36.240
<v Speaker 3>I appreciate it. It seems as though you're making decisions

0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 3>that are like best for the kid and not just

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Speaker 3>like some ego of like, no, you are mine and

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:44.279
<v Speaker 3>you must spend this time with me.

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you know I respect that. I mean like,

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean that. I think that's I don't. I hate

0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 1>going over there. I hate, you know, just like I

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 1>want to just have her at my place and ship

0:34:56.360 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 1>like that. But whatever she's comfortable with. And I feel

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 1>like I do low key feel like I'm failing my

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:05.239
<v Speaker 1>child if I don't take her though, And I feel

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 1>like I'm like a gets like a bitch if I don't,

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:10.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, like retaliate or fight back on this, you know.

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 1>But I think I don't know if I'm making the

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:14.960
<v Speaker 1>right decision. Basically, I don't know. I don't know. I

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 1>don't I'm not looking at chat. I don't know with

0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 1>chat saying or anything like that. If you could give

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:22.240
<v Speaker 1>me some advice from chat, I appreciate it. Major's professor,

0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 1>you want it.

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:26.759
<v Speaker 3>Here's I'll tell you one thing, what you're going through

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 3>is very difficult, uh, you know, with with custody of

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:31.640
<v Speaker 3>a child, and you know how to be in your

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:32.400
<v Speaker 3>child's life.

0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:35:33.640 --> 0:35:36.359
<v Speaker 3>And I definitely would not seek advice about it from

0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 3>a Twitch chat. That's probably the last place I would

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:43.880
<v Speaker 3>go for advice on your issue. I would talk to

0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:47.840
<v Speaker 3>a therapist or a psychologist or a child person or

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:51.320
<v Speaker 3>a lie and I I will do you a service

0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:55.400
<v Speaker 3>by not taking questions from the twitch chat on this

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:57.200
<v Speaker 3>difficult issue that you're going through.

0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:01.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I have I have a therapist. Yeah, okay, yeah,

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:04.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean mostly just to talk about the UPS shit.

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:07.719
<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, god, man, this motherfucker got me my feelings, man,

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:09.960
<v Speaker 1>God damn all right, cool, I'll talk fuck it.

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:14.239
<v Speaker 3>Well, uh well, listen, man, thanks for thanks for talk

0:36:14.400 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 3>talking to us about ups. Thanks for sharing all this stuff.

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:20.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Sometimes sometimes people because there's always gonna

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 3>be there's always gonna be like some fucking dude in

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 3>the YouTube comments who writes an essay. I read all

0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 3>the YouTube comments, by the way, it like, it makes me.

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:31.560
<v Speaker 3>It makes me happy when like there's people in the

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:34.440
<v Speaker 3>YouTube comments that are like, hey, man, dealt with the

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:36.720
<v Speaker 3>same thing blah blah blah blah blah. So they'll probably

0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 3>be some dude like that, and they'll also be someone

0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:42.240
<v Speaker 3>who's mad at you and someone who I like whatever,

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:46.719
<v Speaker 3>you know, I don't know, I fucking don't know, but yeah, dude,

0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:49.359
<v Speaker 3>thanks for thanks for sharing. Good luck on good luck

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 3>on your on on all of your issues air conditioning

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:57.279
<v Speaker 3>and otherwise. There anything else you want to say to

0:36:57.400 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 3>the people of the computer before we go.

0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Fuck, I mean thank you. Not everyone is be kind

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:11.080
<v Speaker 1>to yourself, but be kind to others, I guess. And yeah,

0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:12.880
<v Speaker 1>I hope everyone has to get rust of your day. Thanks, uh,

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:16.000
<v Speaker 1>thanks gag for a I'm a big fan. I appreciate

0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:17.919
<v Speaker 1>you found on TikTok. You're the shit.

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:24.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you have a good night, thanks man, good luck Bay. Yeah,

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:27.520
<v Speaker 3>that's tough. That's really really tough. I wish I wish

0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:29.320
<v Speaker 3>I got how old that guy was, because I couldn't.

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 3>He was probably he sounds like he was maybe I

0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 3>don't know. Sometimes people call him with like deep voices

0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 3>and they're, you know, nineteen or whatever. But he sounded

0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:46.080
<v Speaker 3>like he was, uh maybe like at most thirty four.

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:50.920
<v Speaker 3>His kid was seven, so but I'm twenty six. He

0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:52.680
<v Speaker 3>probably had that. I'm going to assume he had that

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:57.719
<v Speaker 3>kid when he was younger than me. And that's tough.

0:37:57.840 --> 0:38:02.160
<v Speaker 3>That's a hard thing. Kids, This is it's a hard thing.

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:04.200
<v Speaker 3>I think I want I want to have kids one day,

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:08.239
<v Speaker 3>but I don't want to do it anytime remotely soon.

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:12.960
<v Speaker 3>I think probably not for another like ten or twelve years,

0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:14.480
<v Speaker 3>because I don't want to. I don't want to have

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:16.480
<v Speaker 3>a kid and let in unless if I'm like a

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 3>hundred I think back, like back in in previous generations

0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:25.360
<v Speaker 3>up until like kind of recently, I think people just

0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:28.440
<v Speaker 3>pop them out like it was just it was just

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:31.880
<v Speaker 3>what you did, right, And I think maybe in this

0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:35.480
<v Speaker 3>generation people are being a little bit more like, hey,

0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:38.759
<v Speaker 3>you know what, let me like make sure that I'm

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:42.880
<v Speaker 3>in a position to properly do this. Think about, like,

0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:45.279
<v Speaker 3>am I with the right person to do this with?

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:48.360
<v Speaker 3>Am I do I have my finances in order to

0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 3>do this? And you know, I'm still eating Reesei's pieces

0:38:53.239 --> 0:38:54.839
<v Speaker 3>for dinner, So I don't think I can take care

0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:58.680
<v Speaker 3>of a child uh anytime? So am I saying that

0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:01.320
<v Speaker 3>it's going to take me to twelve years to become

0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 3>the kind of person that doesn't eat recent pieces for dinner?

0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:08.640
<v Speaker 3>I hope not. But it gives me a lot of

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:13.960
<v Speaker 3>comfort to have that much runway. I think that color's

0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:15.919
<v Speaker 3>name was I think I gave him the name Nick.

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:17.120
<v Speaker 3>Thank you for calling Nick?

0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Hi?

0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:22.640
<v Speaker 3>Hi, what is your name?

0:39:24.160 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm Tizzy?

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:34.799
<v Speaker 3>Tizzy Tizzy uh with T I Z z Y. Yes, Well,

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:36.800
<v Speaker 3>what the hell is going on? Tizzy? How can I

0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 3>get you what you want to talk about?

0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:44.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's a good question. Yeah, I was thinking

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:47.839
<v Speaker 2>about coming to see you in Pittsburgh, but I don't

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:52.960
<v Speaker 2>know if you still have tickets left or do I

0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:55.160
<v Speaker 2>have a friend's kind of see you in Philly? Is

0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:55.760
<v Speaker 2>really excited?

0:39:56.400 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh cool? Oh yeah, no I did. I did my

0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:02.320
<v Speaker 3>Philly show U this week. Yeah, I'm playing at the

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:05.919
<v Speaker 3>Bottle Rocket, which I've heard is in Pittsburgh. I'm playing

0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:07.799
<v Speaker 3>at this with a Bottle Rocket Social club. I've heard

0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 3>it's a cool venue. I'm very excited for that. So yeah,

0:40:10.600 --> 0:40:12.520
<v Speaker 3>I help you come, but you know you can also

0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 3>you can also you can. You know there's a lot

0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:17.799
<v Speaker 3>to do in Pittsburgh, so I wouldn't be surprised if

0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:22.440
<v Speaker 3>you had other places and not really, So what's going on?

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Man?

0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:23.439
<v Speaker 3>Would you want to talk about?

0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:28.360
<v Speaker 2>I was what's the longest you've ever slept? Because yesterday

0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:31.600
<v Speaker 2>I went to sleep at like twelve thirty am and

0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:36.120
<v Speaker 2>I woke up at seven pm and I had a

0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:39.200
<v Speaker 2>lot to do yesterday, and I kind of woke up

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:41.920
<v Speaker 2>and I looked at outside him I saw it was evening,

0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:46.640
<v Speaker 2>and I said, you know there, yeah, I think I

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 2>have I burned today, like there's nothing for me to do.

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:51.640
<v Speaker 2>I had.

0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, No, I've done that. I've burned multiple days in

0:40:57.680 --> 0:41:01.440
<v Speaker 3>a row sleeping, I saw. But but usually when I'm

0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 3>doing that, it's because I maybe had a few days

0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:08.399
<v Speaker 3>in a row where I was staying up too late

0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:11.880
<v Speaker 3>or something like that, or maybe I just like, well,

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:13.840
<v Speaker 3>like when I get really, really fucking depressed, all I

0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:16.239
<v Speaker 3>want to do is sleep because it's sleep is cool.

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:21.840
<v Speaker 3>It's like dying without all the commitments. Okay, so I

0:41:22.080 --> 0:41:26.719
<v Speaker 3>definitely I like doing that. Well are you did you

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 3>just what do you do? You think there's a reason

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:30.560
<v Speaker 3>why you've been sleeping so much?

0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Uh?

0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have also been staying up pretty late, you know, smoking,

0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:39.839
<v Speaker 2>not smoking, but like getting high. And you know, I'm

0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:44.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm really depressed as well, so that definitely plays into it.

0:41:45.640 --> 0:41:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Like I wake up a lot of times and I

0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:49.480
<v Speaker 2>just lay in bed for an hour two hours?

0:41:50.120 --> 0:41:51.440
<v Speaker 3>What do you just real quick, what do you mean

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:54.160
<v Speaker 3>by your smoke? You're not smoking, but you're getting high.

0:41:55.080 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 2>Not you know, vaping edibles.

0:41:57.719 --> 0:42:04.080
<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, how how old are you? If I may ask?

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:09.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm curious three. Okay, and so you're are you sleeping

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:11.480
<v Speaker 3>because you're by the way, I'm not I'm about to

0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:15.360
<v Speaker 3>play armchair therapist, which I guess is my thing, but

0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm just want to I just want to clarify that

0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:19.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm not a real therapist because I'm about to go

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:22.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm about to go very therapist mode on this phone call.

0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, no, I yeah, I know why you Oh sorry,

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:29.920
<v Speaker 2>go ahead.

0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah.

0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 2>I listened to your podcast like probably every day. Like

0:42:34.239 --> 0:42:36.560
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm I'm on the premium thing because I

0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:40.640
<v Speaker 2>used to listen to you a lot, and like the

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:42.799
<v Speaker 2>ads started getting annoying some like, you know, I'll pay

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:44.000
<v Speaker 2>the whatever.

0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:47.040
<v Speaker 3>Thanks, thanks for throwing a little thanks for throwing a

0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:52.960
<v Speaker 3>little ad for for therapy Gecko premium uh in this call.

0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:56.359
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, so why are you why? Like you are

0:42:57.000 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 3>are you sleeping so much? Because you're depressed?

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:04.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's definitely has to do with it. I like,

0:43:04.360 --> 0:43:07.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm on some medication, but it's uh, I don't know

0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 2>if it's working. I've been on it for like six months,

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:13.279
<v Speaker 2>and I think I'm gonna like ask my psych to

0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:15.439
<v Speaker 2>cycle me or something like that put me on something

0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 2>new because it's just like every day it just feels

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:23.640
<v Speaker 2>like I have to do something distract myself, like play

0:43:24.600 --> 0:43:27.680
<v Speaker 2>lots of video games or like you know, get high

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:31.040
<v Speaker 2>or drink or something, or like play games on my phone,

0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:33.960
<v Speaker 2>watch YouTube like I used to. I used to have

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 2>a really bad I mean I still technically I have

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:40.040
<v Speaker 2>a porn addiction, which you seem to get a lot

0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:41.319
<v Speaker 2>of cold about on this show.

0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:43.399
<v Speaker 3>Bro, do you want to hear Do you actually want

0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:44.920
<v Speaker 3>to hear something completely insane?

0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:45.359
<v Speaker 1>Uh?

0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:51.920
<v Speaker 3>This, dude, I'll just tell you this. This morning I

0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:57.200
<v Speaker 3>went on chat GPT and I was like, I think

0:43:57.480 --> 0:44:00.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't I'm trying to pull it up. But this

0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:04.160
<v Speaker 3>morning I went on chat GBT and I was like,

0:44:05.600 --> 0:44:09.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to quit weed, alcohol, sugar, and porn, but

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:14.640
<v Speaker 3>I use them to to get over anxiety and depression.

0:44:15.120 --> 0:44:19.320
<v Speaker 3>How do I do that? So I I literally literally

0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:25.840
<v Speaker 3>asked chat GBT how I personally could do that this morning?

0:44:26.160 --> 0:44:29.000
<v Speaker 3>So I'm I'm I'm right, I'm right there with your brother.

0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:32.960
<v Speaker 3>I've been thinking about this a lot because I've been

0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 3>like actually fairly depressed and miserable in my personal life.

0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:43.120
<v Speaker 3>I might not seem like it in this very moment

0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:46.879
<v Speaker 3>because because and this actually ties into what I my thing,

0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:48.759
<v Speaker 3>I might not seem like it in this very moment

0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:52.400
<v Speaker 3>because I am in the flow state of doing something

0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:57.640
<v Speaker 3>that is actively taking my attention away from those things

0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 3>and read rectally get into something productive, which is talking

0:45:02.200 --> 0:45:07.719
<v Speaker 3>to you and having making this podcast. And so I'm

0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:10.240
<v Speaker 3>just I'm at a point for me where I'm like, uh, Okay,

0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:17.200
<v Speaker 3>how do I fill my life with as much in

0:45:17.360 --> 0:45:22.520
<v Speaker 3>the moment productive flow state things as humanly possible so

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:27.719
<v Speaker 3>that I'm not fucking destroying myself? And it's actually kind

0:45:27.800 --> 0:45:31.320
<v Speaker 3>of a you know, it's a question I'm in the

0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:37.920
<v Speaker 3>middle of answering on a macro level, but that kind

0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:40.439
<v Speaker 3>of feels like it's the answer, right, is like, well,

0:45:41.080 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm doing all these negative behaviors because I get fucking

0:45:45.080 --> 0:45:50.520
<v Speaker 3>anxious and depressed, and uh, it's like, well, how do

0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:55.200
<v Speaker 3>I put myself in situations where I'm not feeling those

0:45:55.320 --> 0:46:00.120
<v Speaker 3>things as much? I don't have the perfect answers to

0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:02.840
<v Speaker 3>those questions, but those are the questions, you know.

0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:06.719
<v Speaker 2>I think that might be a little like unrealistic. I think, like,

0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:08.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, people talk about the flow state a lot

0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 2>these days, but I don't think your life can just

0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:15.960
<v Speaker 2>be moving between states of flow all the time, Like

0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:18.440
<v Speaker 2>there's gonna be you know, you're gonna be pooping at

0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:21.040
<v Speaker 2>some point, you know, Like, yeah, I have a lot

0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:23.360
<v Speaker 2>of dark thoughts when I'm pooping or like I'm in

0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:24.959
<v Speaker 2>the shower and it's like that's not a flow state,

0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:28.320
<v Speaker 2>and like or like I'm doing laundry or something like

0:46:28.520 --> 0:46:31.160
<v Speaker 2>there's I feel like most of my life is not

0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:35.359
<v Speaker 2>doing anything productive or or something meaningful, and I feel

0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:38.120
<v Speaker 2>like I have to not want to kill myself during

0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:40.560
<v Speaker 2>those times as well. Yeah, so I think it has

0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:43.640
<v Speaker 2>to be more than just distracting myself, even if it's

0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:45.359
<v Speaker 2>a in a meaningful way.

0:46:46.440 --> 0:46:50.439
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I agree with you, Okay, not to keep talking

0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:52.120
<v Speaker 3>about myself, but I'm gonna do it for a second.

0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:56.279
<v Speaker 3>Like these like like I'm on tour right now, I'm

0:46:56.320 --> 0:47:00.279
<v Speaker 3>doing these shows. And when I'm like on stage, you're

0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:02.400
<v Speaker 3>doing the shows or touring or in an airplane or

0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:06.640
<v Speaker 3>do like doing all this stuff. You know, I definitely

0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:09.040
<v Speaker 3>like get depressed a little bit while I'm doing this stuff.

0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:10.960
<v Speaker 3>But I have noticed I'm on a flow state. I

0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:14.560
<v Speaker 3>am distracted. I'm doing something and I'm like, oh, this

0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:18.160
<v Speaker 3>is great, but I'm also like, well, fuck, I can't

0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:22.840
<v Speaker 3>literally be doing this one hundred percent of the time.

0:47:23.600 --> 0:47:27.040
<v Speaker 3>As you've said, Yes, it's true, you can't just jump

0:47:27.160 --> 0:47:29.080
<v Speaker 3>from flow state thing to flow state thing to flow

0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:32.160
<v Speaker 3>state thing. Eventually you have to do laundry. Eventually, you

0:47:32.320 --> 0:47:35.920
<v Speaker 3>have to be alone. Eventually, you have to do you

0:47:36.040 --> 0:47:42.680
<v Speaker 3>have to live kind of boring life. Can't be this amazing, beautiful, exciting, active,

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:46.719
<v Speaker 3>productive thing one hundred percent of the time. You can.

0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:49.120
<v Speaker 3>I think you can kind of get to a point

0:47:49.120 --> 0:47:54.000
<v Speaker 3>where it's like that I don't even I don't want

0:47:54.040 --> 0:47:57.560
<v Speaker 3>to say most of the time, but where you know,

0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:00.600
<v Speaker 3>there's there's where those things are or I'll say this,

0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:02.520
<v Speaker 3>you can get to a point where those things and

0:48:02.640 --> 0:48:06.520
<v Speaker 3>those feelings are present in your life. But yes, it's true,

0:48:06.560 --> 0:48:07.920
<v Speaker 3>you have to figure out how to not want to

0:48:07.960 --> 0:48:11.840
<v Speaker 3>kill yourself while you're just sitting in a room doing nothing.

0:48:13.120 --> 0:48:16.320
<v Speaker 3>So I agree with you on that. I don't have

0:48:16.400 --> 0:48:21.120
<v Speaker 3>any I don't have strategies on not accomplishing that because

0:48:21.160 --> 0:48:24.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to figure it out myself. But I agree

0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:26.239
<v Speaker 3>with you. I mean, what what works for you?

0:48:29.360 --> 0:48:32.800
<v Speaker 2>You know it's something worth I definitely i'd write a

0:48:32.800 --> 0:48:36.160
<v Speaker 2>book about it or something, but sure, Yeah, I'm in

0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:40.440
<v Speaker 2>like a twelve step program for my addiction that's been helping.

0:48:41.280 --> 0:48:45.320
<v Speaker 2>They talk about your higher power turning to them for

0:48:45.480 --> 0:48:48.520
<v Speaker 2>guidance and stuff like that. I was never like religious

0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:50.800
<v Speaker 2>growing up, so it's kind of difficult for me to

0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:55.280
<v Speaker 2>do that, but I find it is like kind of helpful,

0:48:55.520 --> 0:48:59.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, like talking to God asking God for help.

0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:02.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't really understand what that is for me completely

0:49:03.800 --> 0:49:07.360
<v Speaker 2>because I'm pretty new at this, and so that that

0:49:07.600 --> 0:49:10.360
<v Speaker 2>that's an approach I've been trying. I've been trying. Also,

0:49:11.680 --> 0:49:14.320
<v Speaker 2>there's this YouTuber named Sissyphis fifty five. I don't know

0:49:14.320 --> 0:49:18.680
<v Speaker 2>if you've ever seen in the videos, but he he

0:49:18.719 --> 0:49:20.040
<v Speaker 2>does like the stick Man videos.

0:49:21.600 --> 0:49:23.359
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I think I've heard of this guy.

0:49:23.440 --> 0:49:27.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, so he Oh, that's actually not the guy's thinking,

0:49:27.600 --> 0:49:32.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, casually explained. So that's the guy who does like,

0:49:33.800 --> 0:49:35.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, how to tell if a girl likes you

0:49:35.280 --> 0:49:35.680
<v Speaker 2>and stuff.

0:49:36.280 --> 0:49:37.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sure, I know what that is.

0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So he has an alternate channel called Jamie's Channel,

0:49:41.920 --> 0:49:45.800
<v Speaker 2>and he uploaded this video about self realization and he

0:49:45.960 --> 0:49:49.800
<v Speaker 2>talks about how like the idea, we have an idea

0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:53.560
<v Speaker 2>of ourselves and so like I have an idea who

0:49:53.680 --> 0:49:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Lyle the gecko is, and it's just like a bundle

0:49:56.920 --> 0:50:00.320
<v Speaker 2>of symbols that I have, Like he's green and he

0:50:00.520 --> 0:50:05.600
<v Speaker 2>talked to people on the phone. Yes, So I imagine

0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:07.920
<v Speaker 2>that when other people I talk to talk to me,

0:50:08.040 --> 0:50:11.960
<v Speaker 2>they have an image of me as well. So apparently

0:50:12.040 --> 0:50:15.600
<v Speaker 2>most people confuse that image with who they really are,

0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:18.719
<v Speaker 2>and that is the cause of most suffering in life,

0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:22.440
<v Speaker 2>because like if someone insults you, for example, that's not

0:50:22.520 --> 0:50:24.680
<v Speaker 2>really an attack on you, Like nothing about your experience

0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:30.239
<v Speaker 2>has changed, but your belief about yourself has changed. And

0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:33.920
<v Speaker 2>he says that you were able to completely disidentify with

0:50:34.000 --> 0:50:39.759
<v Speaker 2>this illusion that you will stop suffering. It's really it's

0:50:39.800 --> 0:50:45.080
<v Speaker 2>a really cool video essay. But I guess I'm like

0:50:45.200 --> 0:50:46.840
<v Speaker 2>trying to I think about that all the time, and

0:50:46.880 --> 0:50:50.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to do it and incorporate it or achieve

0:50:50.239 --> 0:50:51.960
<v Speaker 2>whatever realization he's talking about.

0:50:52.440 --> 0:50:57.920
<v Speaker 3>But it seems like impossible to shake almost you what

0:50:58.360 --> 0:50:59.800
<v Speaker 3>is this image that you're trying to shake? This is

0:50:59.840 --> 0:51:01.640
<v Speaker 3>the image that you think other people have of you.

0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:05.920
<v Speaker 2>It's not just like the image that I think other

0:51:06.000 --> 0:51:07.800
<v Speaker 2>people have of me. It's like the image that I

0:51:07.960 --> 0:51:13.080
<v Speaker 2>used to understand my own experience. Like like the example

0:51:13.120 --> 0:51:15.480
<v Speaker 2>he used in the video is like a TV if

0:51:15.560 --> 0:51:17.560
<v Speaker 2>it was to show it's like, okay, what am I like?

0:51:18.080 --> 0:51:20.200
<v Speaker 2>It keeps showing images on the screen of what it's

0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:22.240
<v Speaker 2>what it is, and shows like a picture of itself

0:51:22.360 --> 0:51:25.040
<v Speaker 2>maybe and that's pretty like a pretty good depiction of

0:51:25.120 --> 0:51:27.360
<v Speaker 2>what it is. But it's not it right because the

0:51:27.480 --> 0:51:30.279
<v Speaker 2>TV is the screen. It can't actually display what it

0:51:30.400 --> 0:51:34.480
<v Speaker 2>is on there. So it's like the image is whatever

0:51:34.560 --> 0:51:38.040
<v Speaker 2>you think you are, but you literally can't think about

0:51:38.080 --> 0:51:41.920
<v Speaker 2>yourself because you are yourself. So yeah, I guess the

0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:46.800
<v Speaker 2>image is like anything that any ideas you have about yourself,

0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:50.800
<v Speaker 2>like I am smart, I am a son or whatever, like, no,

0:51:50.960 --> 0:51:52.840
<v Speaker 2>that's not you. That's just a symbol of you that

0:51:52.960 --> 0:51:54.400
<v Speaker 2>you've identified with.

0:51:56.320 --> 0:52:03.600
<v Speaker 3>Interesting, m I mean just this just thinking about the

0:52:03.800 --> 0:52:07.239
<v Speaker 3>I guess there. I do believe that like there we

0:52:07.560 --> 0:52:14.120
<v Speaker 3>form fucking like like we form narratives and stories about

0:52:14.160 --> 0:52:19.359
<v Speaker 3>our self and about the universe that we believe are

0:52:19.440 --> 0:52:27.640
<v Speaker 3>like reality, whereas like reality is this fucking amorphous, undefined

0:52:28.840 --> 0:52:36.520
<v Speaker 3>thing that kind of lives in every single person's perception maybe, uh,

0:52:36.600 --> 0:52:39.400
<v Speaker 3>And so in that way, it can kind of be

0:52:39.680 --> 0:52:43.480
<v Speaker 3>whatever you want maybe, but if you, if you, if

0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:45.680
<v Speaker 3>the stories you have about yourself and the narratives you

0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:50.279
<v Speaker 3>have about yourself that you fucking suck, then you just

0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:55.560
<v Speaker 3>canna make life bad. So yeah, I kind of agree.

0:52:56.040 --> 0:52:57.440
<v Speaker 3>Get I get what you mean. I give what you mean?

0:52:57.960 --> 0:52:58.400
<v Speaker 2>What do you can?

0:52:58.440 --> 0:52:58.719
<v Speaker 3>I say?

0:52:58.760 --> 0:52:59.120
<v Speaker 1>What do you do?

0:52:59.360 --> 0:53:01.760
<v Speaker 3>It's like, what's your what's your what's your life?

0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:53:02.120 --> 0:53:03.799
<v Speaker 3>Like, do you go to school, do you work?

0:53:04.400 --> 0:53:06.560
<v Speaker 2>You talk to me? I'm a grad. I'm a grad student.

0:53:06.680 --> 0:53:11.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm studying mechanical engineering. Okay, so I guess I talk

0:53:11.680 --> 0:53:16.319
<v Speaker 2>to people. It's difficult, like because I'm living I grew

0:53:16.400 --> 0:53:18.960
<v Speaker 2>up in New Jersey, Like all my friends and family

0:53:18.960 --> 0:53:22.760
<v Speaker 2>and stuff are there, and I'm out here doing my masters,

0:53:22.840 --> 0:53:25.279
<v Speaker 2>so I don't really have a good sport structure out here.

0:53:27.680 --> 0:53:30.400
<v Speaker 2>So it's there are some days I go without like

0:53:30.440 --> 0:53:33.719
<v Speaker 2>talking to anyone, which is pretty bad. I'm trying to

0:53:33.800 --> 0:53:36.840
<v Speaker 2>change that, but it's what do you What do you

0:53:36.920 --> 0:53:40.880
<v Speaker 2>do to try to change that? You know? I go

0:53:40.960 --> 0:53:43.520
<v Speaker 2>to these twelve step meetings. I try to call people up.

0:53:44.600 --> 0:53:47.120
<v Speaker 2>I try to hang out with people and message them

0:53:47.120 --> 0:53:49.880
<v Speaker 2>and stuff to see if we can do something. But

0:53:50.160 --> 0:53:54.560
<v Speaker 2>it's it's tough. I'm like kind of uh, really anxious

0:53:54.960 --> 0:53:57.560
<v Speaker 2>about connecting with people. I guess.

0:54:01.920 --> 0:54:05.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean I like the tall step stuff as a

0:54:05.760 --> 0:54:09.160
<v Speaker 3>as a way of community. You said you listened to

0:54:09.160 --> 0:54:12.600
<v Speaker 3>every episode of the podcast, right, yeah, yeah, did you

0:54:12.680 --> 0:54:14.880
<v Speaker 3>listen to the one that I put out today?

0:54:16.840 --> 0:54:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

0:54:18.120 --> 0:54:19.759
<v Speaker 3>What did you hear the pinball Lady?

0:54:20.840 --> 0:54:21.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:54:21.160 --> 0:54:23.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I like the Pinball Lady. I think I've

0:54:23.440 --> 0:54:25.840
<v Speaker 3>been thinking. I had that conversation yesterday, but I've been

0:54:25.880 --> 0:54:28.359
<v Speaker 3>thinking about the pinball Lady. I liked her a lot

0:54:28.440 --> 0:54:33.320
<v Speaker 3>because she just fucking went for it, you know what

0:54:33.440 --> 0:54:41.759
<v Speaker 3>I mean. And I understand. I understand that, like, uh,

0:54:42.320 --> 0:54:47.000
<v Speaker 3>for some some people are just wired differently to have

0:54:47.320 --> 0:54:50.960
<v Speaker 3>more social anxiety, whether it's because of I don't know

0:54:51.000 --> 0:54:53.520
<v Speaker 3>who their parents were, or experiences they had, or the

0:54:53.560 --> 0:54:56.400
<v Speaker 3>brain chemistry whatever. I understand. I get that. I I

0:54:56.800 --> 0:55:00.279
<v Speaker 3>you know, I empathize with that. But I I don't know.

0:55:00.280 --> 0:55:01.840
<v Speaker 3>I thought. I think about the pinball Lady because she

0:55:01.920 --> 0:55:03.320
<v Speaker 3>just fucking went for it. She was just like, I

0:55:03.360 --> 0:55:04.920
<v Speaker 3>want to make friends, I want to have a community,

0:55:04.960 --> 0:55:08.520
<v Speaker 3>I want to be around other people. Let me start

0:55:08.719 --> 0:55:11.080
<v Speaker 3>throwing pinball tournaments.

0:55:11.960 --> 0:55:12.160
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:55:12.920 --> 0:55:17.000
<v Speaker 3>She came up with a creative solution to her people problem.

0:55:17.760 --> 0:55:20.960
<v Speaker 3>I was inspired by that on like a personal level.

0:55:23.000 --> 0:55:26.360
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know. I don't know if if something

0:55:26.560 --> 0:55:29.200
<v Speaker 3>like that. I'm not literally saying start a pinball tournament,

0:55:29.239 --> 0:55:31.640
<v Speaker 3>but you go, what I mean, I don't know if

0:55:31.680 --> 0:55:34.960
<v Speaker 3>something like that appeals to you, especially as a grad student.

0:55:35.000 --> 0:55:39.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you're on a college campus. You're around a lot.

0:55:39.400 --> 0:55:41.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you're literally like but I don't

0:55:41.280 --> 0:55:44.279
<v Speaker 3>know if you live on campus or whatever. But you know,

0:55:44.320 --> 0:55:45.960
<v Speaker 3>if you're on a college campus, you're around a lot

0:55:45.960 --> 0:55:50.439
<v Speaker 3>of people. The opportunities for you to socialize exist. And again,

0:55:50.480 --> 0:55:52.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how you're wired or what makes you

0:55:52.440 --> 0:55:53.320
<v Speaker 3>feel whatever.

0:55:53.239 --> 0:55:53.319
<v Speaker 2>But.

0:55:55.840 --> 0:56:00.200
<v Speaker 3>You just I just think it's likely for you to

0:56:00.280 --> 0:56:02.880
<v Speaker 3>be happier if you're around more people. I mean, you

0:56:03.000 --> 0:56:05.160
<v Speaker 3>just said yourself that you'll have many times where you're

0:56:05.239 --> 0:56:09.160
<v Speaker 3>not around anyone. And that's just a recipe for for fucking.

0:56:10.000 --> 0:56:13.960
<v Speaker 3>That's a recipe for porn. That's a strong recipe for

0:56:14.360 --> 0:56:18.719
<v Speaker 3>sitting around all day, jacking off, getting high, drinking and

0:56:18.800 --> 0:56:24.600
<v Speaker 3>eating candy. That's a that's really I have a one

0:56:24.640 --> 0:56:28.160
<v Speaker 3>of my friends said to me that he loves going

0:56:28.239 --> 0:56:31.520
<v Speaker 3>outside because he can't jack off. It's just it's one

0:56:31.520 --> 0:56:38.879
<v Speaker 3>of the reasons. It's like an it's like accountability. It's well, yeah,

0:56:38.880 --> 0:56:43.239
<v Speaker 3>I mean, ye, sure you can, but you're not. That's

0:56:43.400 --> 0:56:49.160
<v Speaker 3>not gonna be it's against social contract. He's held accountable

0:56:49.239 --> 0:56:52.040
<v Speaker 3>by social contract to not jack off. So he goes

0:56:52.080 --> 0:56:57.520
<v Speaker 3>outside and or he and he goes in public and

0:56:57.640 --> 0:56:59.520
<v Speaker 3>it's great. That's one of the great things about being

0:56:59.600 --> 0:57:02.720
<v Speaker 3>in public is that you can't be a fucking crazy

0:57:02.840 --> 0:57:08.440
<v Speaker 3>person that holds you accountable to that. So that's I

0:57:08.520 --> 0:57:11.319
<v Speaker 3>guess that's my that's my that's that's my spiel. That's

0:57:11.320 --> 0:57:11.800
<v Speaker 3>my spiel.

0:57:11.800 --> 0:57:14.040
<v Speaker 2>Gotta go ahead, Yeah, this is this seems to like

0:57:14.080 --> 0:57:15.680
<v Speaker 2>come up on your podcast a lot, you know, the

0:57:15.800 --> 0:57:18.320
<v Speaker 2>adult film stuff. I think you had kazum Me on.

0:57:19.320 --> 0:57:21.600
<v Speaker 2>You had a lot of girls seem to call in

0:57:21.720 --> 0:57:24.720
<v Speaker 2>and ask about having an only fans, like starting an

0:57:24.720 --> 0:57:29.680
<v Speaker 2>only fans for some reason, And yeah, it makes me

0:57:29.800 --> 0:57:32.640
<v Speaker 2>think a lot. I thought, like I studied like some

0:57:33.120 --> 0:57:37.439
<v Speaker 2>to like a feminist class and undergrad and like read

0:57:37.440 --> 0:57:42.000
<v Speaker 2>about it sometimes and they're like talk about how it's

0:57:42.200 --> 0:57:46.200
<v Speaker 2>coercive like the industry and stuff, and I think it's like,

0:57:47.160 --> 0:57:49.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm not. I know, you don't give advice per se

0:57:49.280 --> 0:57:52.200
<v Speaker 2>and but it's like, dude, girls are like, should I

0:57:52.200 --> 0:57:54.560
<v Speaker 2>start an only fans? You're like, well, if you want to,

0:57:55.200 --> 0:57:59.720
<v Speaker 2>But it's like, what what does it mean to want

0:58:00.080 --> 0:58:04.320
<v Speaker 2>and do that? Like, especially if they're much younger, I

0:58:04.400 --> 0:58:06.040
<v Speaker 2>feel like they don't know what they're getting into a

0:58:06.080 --> 0:58:09.640
<v Speaker 2>lot of the times, because it's something very difficult to

0:58:09.640 --> 0:58:11.800
<v Speaker 2>get out of, right if you go to go apply

0:58:11.880 --> 0:58:14.560
<v Speaker 2>for a job or something that comes up, like maybe

0:58:15.360 --> 0:58:17.120
<v Speaker 2>that's going to be something you're pigeon doled into the

0:58:17.200 --> 0:58:22.840
<v Speaker 2>right for the rest of your life, and it seems

0:58:22.880 --> 0:58:25.280
<v Speaker 2>like a little exploitative and stuff like that. I think

0:58:25.280 --> 0:58:25.920
<v Speaker 2>about that a lot.

0:58:27.240 --> 0:58:29.240
<v Speaker 3>Well, Well, the reason I say if you want to

0:58:29.440 --> 0:58:34.600
<v Speaker 3>is because it's like it's I mean, that's what I is.

0:58:34.640 --> 0:58:37.080
<v Speaker 3>If you want to, you know, I don't know. I

0:58:37.160 --> 0:58:42.200
<v Speaker 3>don't like this is a pure matter of personal philosophy,

0:58:44.280 --> 0:58:48.040
<v Speaker 3>Like I don't like porn and sex and like all

0:58:48.080 --> 0:58:51.400
<v Speaker 3>these things, Like I don't. I think people are very

0:58:51.640 --> 0:58:54.560
<v Speaker 3>very precious about it, and I think people have a

0:58:54.600 --> 0:59:00.760
<v Speaker 3>lot of opinions about it. I personally, lie do not.

0:59:01.680 --> 0:59:05.880
<v Speaker 3>I understand that society has a lot of like personal

0:59:06.080 --> 0:59:11.520
<v Speaker 3>like moral whatever about like porn and sex, and it's

0:59:11.600 --> 0:59:15.760
<v Speaker 3>taboo and whatever. Maybe it's just because I personally don't

0:59:15.960 --> 0:59:22.640
<v Speaker 3>that I'm not as keyed into what society's views are

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<v Speaker 3>of it. But I also I don't think that I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, I'm not a big fan of bending to

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<v Speaker 3>society's judgments and wills, and so that's why I'm like, So,

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<v Speaker 3>that's why I'm like, look, dude, you're you're an independent

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<v Speaker 3>human being who can make who you know, like like that,

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<v Speaker 3>like the girl on the Yeah, sure you're talking about

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<v Speaker 3>that girl on the podcast. I think I even said

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<v Speaker 3>the story. It's not like she thought about it and

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<v Speaker 3>decided she trying to do it. Yeah, So what does

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<v Speaker 3>it mean to want to do something? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's too, that's too, I don't That's an interesting

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<v Speaker 3>question that we could probably spend the next six hours

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<v Speaker 3>talking about. But what's your name again, Sir Tizzy? Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>well Tizzy, it was good to talk to you. I

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<v Speaker 3>hope that you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I wasn't trying to tell you like you

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<v Speaker 2>should have said that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't think. I don't. I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think you were trying to do anything. Okay, Yeah, so no,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought you were trying to talk to a gecko

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<v Speaker 3>on the phone about stuff, which is what we successfully

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<v Speaker 3>did do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's you know, that's the thing I think the

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<v Speaker 2>lesson that I've learned the most reviews. You never judge anyone,

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like when you talk to them, and something

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<v Speaker 2>I've been trying to do in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>But well, yeah, I think, I mean, I try to.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I do it sometimes, but only to be funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that guy I kept driving his car down

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<v Speaker 2>the mountain at night.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, oh well yeah, well that that was fucking stupid.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Well anyway, well listen, well, thanks thanks

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<v Speaker 3>for listening to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a lot of these same problems, so I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna also try to work on them and not I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna also figure out how to how to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>not do things that are you know, self destructive and uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, maybe one day you and I will meet

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<v Speaker 3>at the gates of Saint Peter and God will let

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<v Speaker 3>us in and at that point we can just jack

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<v Speaker 3>off as much as we want because we're dead. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>is there anything else you want to say to the

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<v Speaker 3>people of the computer before we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Buy government buy us savings bonds.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right, by Tizzy.

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<v Speaker 2>No thanks.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see, should should you buy us savings bonds? I

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<v Speaker 3>guess I don't know where to buy them or like

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<v Speaker 3>how they were. I don't know how bonds were. I

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<v Speaker 3>get how like stock like the SP five hundred works, whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't get how bonds work. That's it. That's my

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<v Speaker 3>post call thought.

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<v Speaker 1>Never Can goes on the line taking your phone calls

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<v Speaker 1>every night. Never be Can goes to on his Ee,

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<v Speaker 1>you're just

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<v Speaker 3>Teaching you about in the mid of your life, but

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<v Speaker 3>he's not really an expert.