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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, can you hear me?

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Speaker 2: Sir?

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir? What is your name?

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Speaker 1: My name is a sicklist sicklists?

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Speaker 3: What kind of name is that? Is that Greek something?

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Speaker 1: No, no, dude, it's it's a fucking name that my

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Speaker 1: girl gave me because my real name is I mean,

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Speaker 1: kind of put it together, I guess, you know, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's my real name is Nicholas, but sounds kind of cool.

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Speaker 3: Well, well, I sick. I'm gonna forget that. I'm just gonna, uh,

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Speaker 3: can I call you Nick?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Here's the here's the thing in like, in my like

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Speaker 3: I to me, ideally this podcast would be completely anonymous,

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Speaker 3: and it pretty much is like if like, if it

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Speaker 3: were up to me. You know, there's this podcast that's

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Speaker 3: called Beautiful Stories from Anonymous People that this comedian Chris

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Speaker 3: Gethard does, and you know, I mean I listened to

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Speaker 3: that when I was in high school, and is you know,

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Speaker 3: it is definitely an inspiration for this thing, and uh,

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Speaker 3: for him, it is I don't think he even does names.

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Speaker 3: And I want to do it like that because I

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Speaker 3: forget everyone's name anyway, and ideally and ideally this should

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Speaker 3: just be anonymous. So part of me is like I

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Speaker 3: should just start instead of asking everyone what their name is,

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Speaker 3: I should just give them a name. But then if

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Speaker 3: I need to put like in conversation, I let Sometimes

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Speaker 3: I like to address people by their names, and it's

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Speaker 3: a pot you can't really do that if you're talking

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Speaker 3: to an anonymous person, you could say you could you

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Speaker 3: could be like like on Reddit when they're like, so,

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Speaker 3: ann In, what do you tell me more? You know,

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Speaker 3: I think that's weird. That's like lait speak or whatever.

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Speaker 3: But I'm just gonna call you Nick is basically what

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to say.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fine. You could call me like like.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't want to do that at all. I

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Speaker 3: really really don't want to call you that. What were

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Speaker 3: you going to say?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, Nick's fine, dude, that's totally cool. I'm down

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Speaker 1: for that ship. Nick is a good name. But I

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Speaker 1: called you. Did you read my text or no? Oh?

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Speaker 1: So basically, I guess it's not like I guess it's

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Speaker 1: basically I guess it gives like awareness to like like

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Speaker 1: something that's going on in my company, and it's like

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Speaker 1: kind of nationwide, like in the US. So I live

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Speaker 1: in I live in a certain state where it's like

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Speaker 1: hot as fuck, but it's it's kind of like deadly

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Speaker 1: doing my job. And we work outside and so let

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Speaker 1: me let me just start over. I work at a UPS.

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Speaker 1: I'm a driver, right, and it's a lot of physical

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Speaker 1: fucking work. The ship sucks, it's pretty horrible, but it's

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Speaker 1: a good pay. A little bit ago, back in last August,

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Speaker 1: we were planning to go on strike for for like

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Speaker 1: a new contract. So every like three to four years,

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Speaker 1: you had a contract with our union, Teamsters union. Basically,

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Speaker 1: if we don't come to like a contract negotiations as UPS,

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Speaker 1: there's we go on shrike. So one of the big

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Speaker 1: caveats for last strike was we get air conditionings in

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Speaker 3: Like, okay, So I never knew that. I never knew

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Speaker 3: there was no air conditioning, But like, there's no correct

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Speaker 3: if I'm wrong. There's no like fucking doors at the

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Speaker 3: I guess. First of all, I didn't know that there

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Speaker 3: air conditioning. But I guess if there were air conditioning,

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Speaker 3: wouldn't it like I don't know how anything fucking works,

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Speaker 3: but wouldn't the air conditioning like blow out from the

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Speaker 1: Right right? No, you're right. So actually they're sliding doors

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Speaker 1: on the left and right, so you could close the

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Speaker 1: That is like the air blowing through our trucks, that's

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Speaker 3: Oh so there is Okay, so there are doors, but

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Speaker 3: you guys use them because as hot as fuck?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, what do you guys do? Do you guys use

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Speaker 3: I don't, I never. I don't know if I remember

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Speaker 3: seeing a UPS truck in the winter. I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: No, Yeah, yes, sir, we sorry, I call you start.

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Speaker 1: It's just manners and stuff like that, So I apologize.

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Speaker 3: I don't have to apologize for that.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Yeah, I'm sorry. I also drink like a

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Speaker 1: to anyway, I'm sorry your question was again.

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Speaker 3: You know what I I don't even remember. Go ahead,

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Speaker 3: go ahead, though I feel like I didn't let you

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Speaker 1: Oh but no, there is first sliding doors for the

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Speaker 1: winter time and everything like that, and that's what we

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Speaker 1: used to keep us f freezing our asses off. We

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Speaker 1: do have good fucking eaters, I'll tell you that. But

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Speaker 1: eventually everything breaks in the truck and it's it just

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Speaker 1: not good. But anyway, so basically we're fighting for air

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Speaker 1: conditions in a truck. And then UPS kind of put

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Speaker 1: letting like the public know how much money we make,

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Speaker 1: and it's we do not make that much money. We

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Speaker 1: make good money, but we don't make that fucking much

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Speaker 1: money as they say we do. And they were kind of,

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Speaker 1: I guess, use the public against us because we had

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Speaker 1: everyone riding us for riding our back for the content

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Speaker 1: negotiations because again, like you didn't know. I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 1: everyone that's stream or chat doesn't know that Ups, we

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Speaker 1: don't have air conditions in a truck anyway, Basically, what

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to say is, so that happened, right, and

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Speaker 1: so this previous years before that, we've had drivers like

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Speaker 1: And it's actually pretty fucking sad. Recently a few months ago, actually,

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Speaker 1: when it was more frequent, but I mean, I know

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Speaker 1: but yeah, recent people have died, you know, in our state,

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Speaker 1: really done anything about it either. They haven't put it

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Speaker 1: So I guess I'm just really calling to, like, I guess,

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Speaker 1: it's just like really fucking sad. What's going on right now?

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Speaker 1: What's I guess with our people?

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Speaker 3: And I guess this sounds like something that like John

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Speaker 1: Oh, I can't get in contact with John Oliver. I guess.

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Speaker 3: You'll you'll, yeah, you'll, you'll, you'll take me as a consolation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're your net stuff gig. But yeah, dude,

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Speaker 3: So so they Okay, when you said they tried to

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Speaker 3: something about like people were going on about like ups

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Speaker 3: drivers were making a lot of money. Is that is

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Speaker 3: that true? It is that like a thing that they

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Speaker 1: I mean, like so, I mean there's like a at

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Speaker 1: wants to say hello. But I mean, if you calculate everything,

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Speaker 3: But like, by the way, hold on, I just want you.

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Speaker 3: I just put you in something. I can tell that

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Speaker 3: you're being coy about this, and uh, just so you know,

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Speaker 3: there's no number that you could that you could say

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Speaker 3: where where I would be like, you know what, you

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Speaker 3: to be coy about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I appreciate that. Thanks for letting me know. Yeah, sorry,

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Speaker 1: because we always like anytime anyone talks about like friends

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Speaker 1: retaliation and god forbid, there's retaliation. I'm pretty sure that

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Speaker 1: of my supervisors, any of my bosses here the ship.

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Speaker 3: Or retaliation against uh who like me, Like.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you spread this information to the public. YadA, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like, well what if what information?

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Speaker 3: What what misinformation are you being accused of spreading to

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Speaker 1: Oh, just like people are dying. Like they're gonna say like, oh,

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Speaker 1: no one dies. It's like no, there's plenty of people

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Speaker 1: I guess, but I mean, I mean it's fine.

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Speaker 3: Did you guys get the air conditioning?

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Speaker 1: No, no, we still haven't gotten the air conditioning. That's

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Speaker 1: what it is. If we had that air conditioning. That

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Speaker 1: They say they're gonna provide ice machines for us. We

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Speaker 1: fucking is fucking brutal work. And it's especially during COVID. Dude,

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Speaker 1: we were like humping out a two hundred, two hundred

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Speaker 1: didn't really do anything. Our union can really do anything

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Speaker 1: about that. Like demand it's more money because we're supposed

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Speaker 1: to get hazard pay. But rumor of several rumors have

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Speaker 1: gone around saying that like ups pocketed that fucking hazard

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Speaker 3: What what? What? What? What was the circumstance that you

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Speaker 3: guys were getting hazard pay under.

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Speaker 1: Because we're working as like essential workers during COVID like

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Speaker 1: in twenty twelve, right, ye.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, sure, sure, Okay, So you guys were supposed to,

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Speaker 3: like the government mandated, did you got like hazard.

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Speaker 1: Pay right basically yes, yes, sir, And then.

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Speaker 3: And the UPS was like, oh, we're gonna take that money.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean we didn't see a diamond d or

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Speaker 1: like hey when we supposed to get hazard pay. And

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Speaker 1: then everyone was in the dark about that shit until

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Speaker 1: like twenty twenty two were we all found it and

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Speaker 1: we're pissed. We were fucking furious. And then when a

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Speaker 1: that's when we're that's when we're all going to like

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Speaker 1: strike and like you know, not going to work and like,

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Speaker 1: you know, put her put our cricket signs up basically

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Speaker 1: to good.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, they probably want to give us that. They'll tell

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Speaker 3: So uh how well, so, uh are you like there's

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, hold out way what's the can can you

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: No, no, no no no. If anything, we're the fucking chads

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Speaker 1: But go ahead, Well, so they have a weak union,

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Speaker 1: They don't get paid as much as we do. They

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Speaker 1: have to in contract with UPS, have to give them

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Speaker 3: Basically, have you just like met a bunch of have

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Speaker 1: Wise, Yeah, dude, there wasn't. Some guy he was like, hey,

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Speaker 1: fucking I don't give a ship, dude. I mean, you'll

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Speaker 1: But most of them are pretty cool. But that one guy. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I fucking hated that guy. I forgot his name. He

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Speaker 3: I like that. You know, during the pandemic, all these

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Speaker 3: a strong sentiment of like, our nation's postal workers are,

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Speaker 1: Fuck out of here. Nah, bro, it was UPS like

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Speaker 1: fucking and and Amazon. I don't know, dude, but here's.

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Speaker 3: What you have to use you to. Here's what you

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Speaker 3: have to understand is I don't like I like, like

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't. I think the layman probably doesn't

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Speaker 3: I don't think. I think the average person probably isn't

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Speaker 3: thinking too much about like UPS versus USPS versus FedEx

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Speaker 3: it's cool that someone delivers it. I guess.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: That might not be true, that might not be true.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I'm projecting.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, it looks cool in the truck.

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Speaker 1: I've known several dudes that said, bro, man like the

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Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, I never had that.

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Speaker 3: Wait, wait, which what who did he work for?

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Speaker 1: You know all ups drivers. I said, oh yeah, bro,

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Speaker 3: Wait man, that's so that's fucking that's so awesome that

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Speaker 3: That's the coolest thing I've ever heard. That's incredible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I've heard several stories of dudes and shapes on

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Speaker 3: A few things. I mean, it's it's a classic uh well,

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: Oh I gotta I don't even want to say it.

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Speaker 3: But yeah. But but also, like here's the thing, here's

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Speaker 1: Sense right now? And then I mean I have thought

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Speaker 1: that's crazy. Also too, we bring joy to people like

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Speaker 1: Thank you. You know see what I'm saying, like it

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll say this, UPS, probably people are more happy

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Speaker 3: to see you than the postal service, because, uh, mail

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Speaker 3: can mean several bad things. It can mean bills, it

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Speaker 1: Right, No, absolutely, I know you're right about that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: You are you? Do you have a do you have

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Speaker 1: at GPS, all every guy there is mostly on child support. Dune.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, are you what do you have a relationship with them?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Of course, yeah, I put my stuff on child support.

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Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, dude. Oh yeah that's good.

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Speaker 3: That's good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, how old is he?

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Speaker 1: She's seven?

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Speaker 3: She's seven? Does she think what you do is cool?

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Speaker 1: I have driven by the house a few times and like,

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Speaker 3: But she gohead, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: She has seen me say hey, dad, I saw you

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Speaker 3: That's cute. Now, Okay, so she yeah, so she she

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: That's nice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I mean there has been some There has

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Speaker 3: So I guess, uh, what do you believe that you'll

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Speaker 1: Your air condition Yeah, so we did it. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: What's the deal with your your kid's mom? Are you star?

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Speaker 3: Are you cool with her?

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Speaker 3: Right? Relationship, there's not you're not fighting, you're not there's

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Speaker 1: And she was saying like, hey, dude, like I don't

433
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,879
Speaker 1: feel that comfortable around you. And as my seven year

434
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 1: old daughter, I was like, oh, what is everything all right? Said? Yeah?

435
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 2: What?

436
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, your daughter, your seven year old daughter said I

437
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 3: don't feel comfortable around you.

438
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's I don't want to beat my dad anymore.

439
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 1: And she's like that. I was like, wait, yeah, yeah,

440
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 1: and so I'm just trying to figure out if I

441
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 1: don't know at school or teaching her about boundaries and

442
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 1: shit like that and all these extra things. Mean, boundaries

443
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,879
Speaker 1: are cool. I get that for kids, But like, you know,

444
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 1: she's telling me, I don't really want to hang out

445
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 1: with you. I don't really want to talk to you.

446
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,040
Speaker 1: And I was like, damn, bro.

447
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 3: Like that's that's weird. Damn. Why why do you think

448
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 3: she's saying that I would be mortified?

449
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,439
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I mean, I think because she's

450
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 1: kind of confused about the whole situation because being that

451
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:15,719
Speaker 1: the co parent never were ever together, and she had

452
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,879
Speaker 1: kind of kept me away from my kid. Actually that

453
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 1: kind of she like blocked my number and I had

454
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 1: to play like telephone through her parents and stuff like that.

455
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 3: Oh, there was there was like a like a whole

456
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 3: ass like there was like a custody battle kind of thing.

457
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I suit her, yeah, and then I put

458
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 1: my challenge support Yeah absolutely.

459
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, but now but now you and you

460
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 3: and her are like cordial.

461
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean she's asking for more money and everything

462
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 1: like that because we got to raise And I'm like, well,

463
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 1: I mean like it's not really like because she was

464
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: like yeah, you know, she'd have a choice and yeah

465
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: yah yeaha. I'm like, oh yeah, so it's like a

466
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: whole thing right now. It's kind of annoying, and I'm

467
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 1: trying to see if I'm making the right decisions or not.

468
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 1: That's it really, you know, I'm just taking care of

469
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: my kid basically. I mean yeah, I mean she's she's

470
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 1: a good kid. I paid my child's sport and I

471
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: try to taught to her. I want to go to

472
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 1: her school event she doesn't want me to go, and

473
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm like all right, then, well I just called in.

474
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 3: For why does why doesn't she want you to go?

475
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: I already asked a few people about this, and then

476
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: people say, oh, you think the mom's saying she didn't

477
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 1: Like I don't think that's her character though. I don't

478
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: believe that, Like I could be just like stupid as

479
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 1: hell and try to think the best of people, but

480
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: I don't see that from her. She's always been like, hey,

481
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: if you're going to say by to your dad and

482
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: you say goodbye. You can't just hang up, you know,

483
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: and like, hey, your dad's talking to you, you know,

484
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 1: like you asked you a question, you know, or you know,

485
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So I don't think. I think my

486
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 1: daughter just really just going through some shit. I don't know.

487
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: She said she feels very anxious about like a lot

488
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: of stuff, and she's she's saying, are you even my dad?

489
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: And like are you even my mom? You know, she's

490
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: kind of like trying to like she's not really understanding everything,

491
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: and I don't know, it's just like a whole thing.

492
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: I guess. I don't fucking know. It's rough.

493
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 3: So like you think it's like it's so people you're

494
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 3: like friends have been like like, oh, maybe the mom

495
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 3: is like putting ideas in her head, but you're like, no,

496
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,479
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think that's that's of her character.

497
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: I don't think that's her. Yeah. I mean I think

498
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: she understands, like, hey, Lucy needs a father. I'm glad

499
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 1: you came back. I wish it was sooner. I'm like, oh,

500
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: eat a dick. But I mean, I mean, like I

501
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 1: had to do what I had to do and stuff

502
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 1: like that. You know, I had to get to this

503
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 1: ups position i'm at. It took a while, and that's

504
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 1: why I'm there. Just that's the only reason why I'm there,

505
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: you know, because it made good money. I'm able to

506
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: put myself on child supports or my daughter, you know,

507
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: live a decent life, because's life suspensive. And yeah. So,

508
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: but what I'm trying to say is I don't think.

509
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: I don't think that. I don't think she's telling her,

510
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: you know, like, hey, you know, like you know, you're

511
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: dad doesn't love he's not really your dad, he doesn't

512
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: respect you. No, she's saying, hey, if you push your

513
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: boundaries and you know, listen to her, like, this is

514
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: what she's gonna remember. Nick. I just know that she's

515
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 1: what she's gonna remember, and she's gonna remember, Oh, my

516
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: dad doesn't give a fuck about me or has to

517
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: hear what I have to say, you know, And yeah,

518
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: I starts crying and everything like that. At least his

519
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 1: daughter wants to say a low to me.

520
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 3: But yeah, second, you have a second daughter.

521
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 1: Oh it's my cat and that's my daughter.

522
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 3: That's why I thought I thought you were talking about

523
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 3: a dog or some shit. So I will I man. Well,

524
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to hear that. Man, it sounds like, uh,

525
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 3: that sounds very difficult, but I get I would I

526
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 3: would think that, Like if I would think that, like

527
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 3: if at complete bare minimum you are like present in

528
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 3: your child's life and you support them financially, uh, and

529
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 3: you go try to be invested in their well being

530
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 3: and in what they are doing in their life, like

531
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 3: you know, just like being a fucking regular ass dad.

532
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 3: I would I would think that, you know, they would

533
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 3: they would not grow up to resent you.

534
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, she I mean like I I tell my girlfriend

535
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: like or I tell them like I guess my other

536
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 1: friends like give me rechars, like, well, you're putting your

537
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: best be forward. Do you want to be there? Right

538
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, I'm showing up. And then she just

539
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: doesn't want to hang out as I'll come out of

540
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: her room and you know, hang out with me because

541
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: right now I have visitations. I've been doing the visitations.

542
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 1: So because my daughter didn't know who I was until

543
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: she was like three. Wow, So I wanted to Yeah,

544
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: I wanted Yeah, I wanted to like gain it like

545
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: a organic relationship with her, not for not like hey,

546
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: I'm this stranger is taking you away. I was trying

547
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: to build an organic relationship with her, and it took

548
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: a while. It took a long It took like two

549
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: years to where it to really get good, you know,

550
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: like every week you know, every weekend, you know, just

551
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: constantly just going over there, visiting her, play with her,

552
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: going get on her level. And then right now I

553
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: was planning to, like, you know, you know, try to

554
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: take her for the weekend officially, just me and her

555
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But this shit kind of sparked

556
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: up a few months ago and it's kind of put

557
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: a damper on my plans. And my lawyer's like, that's bullshit, bro,

558
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,959
Speaker 1: you need eline need to fucking just get the standard. Bro.

559
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: You're paying all this fucking money, you know, you might

560
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 1: as well. It's it's her mom putting things in her heads.

561
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, but I don't I know her. I

562
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: don't I know her not enough to like not be

563
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: a piece of shit mom, you know, because like her

564
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: dad didn't have a father and stuff like that, and

565
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: so she knows how important is to have a dad

566
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: and everything like that. Basically that's what it is.

567
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 3: So I will watch them, can I Well, by the way,

568
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 3: you can you know you don't have to talk about anything,

569
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 3: you know I talk about, But like, you, why did

570
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 3: you only see her when she was three?

571
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: Because my co parent she like kept me away from

572
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: my daughter, like she blocked my number. I would try

573
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: to go over and see her and it's like, hey,

574
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: we're not there, and I will say, you know, fucking

575
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: enough enough, I'm gonna be president my daughter's life. And

576
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: that's why I suit her. And I mean the only

577
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: time I was able to see her, it was like

578
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: I couldn't talk to my co parent who had to

579
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: I had to contact her dad and then we would

580
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 1: have to talk, you know, back and forth, like hey,

581
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: you know, does this day work? Yeah, We'll be here

582
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: and I'll be there for like an hour or and

583
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: they're like all right, well, well you know, better get going.

584
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, all right, cool, and then

585
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: I got really tired of it. I was like, you

586
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: know what, fuck this. I'm gonna be a part of

587
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: my daughter's life. If I got to pay the money,

588
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: because I had to pay like like eleven hundred dollars

589
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: a month like for child support, and I'm like, fuck it,

590
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: if I got to pay the money, I'll pay the

591
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: fucking money, and you know, and now my daughter knows

592
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: who I am, but now she doesn't want any part

593
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: of me, and sometimes I.

594
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're.

595
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 2: So.

596
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 3: So why why was your uh your ex keeping your

597
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: daughter away from you for like for three years, like

598
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 3: making making this difficult?

599
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: I mean back in, I mean we were both young.

600
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: We planned this child out. Was really stupid of us,

601
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: and I cheated and I didn't. I know now I'm

602
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: probably made it. I mean, it's not the most biggest

603
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: mistake in my life, but it caused the riff where

604
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: we're definitely not together and we're never gonna get back together,

605
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: but we have a child together. And so she felt like,

606
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't like because I was still like

607
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: very young. I didn't have like the ups money like

608
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: I do now, so I couldn't provide a lot of

609
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: things for her. And then she resented me for that,

610
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: resented me because like she felt like I left her.

611
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: I was like, I got kicked out of my parents' place.

612
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm living on my brother's couch right now.

613
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: I have fucking nothing. I mean, my car's about the breakdown.

614
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: I'm give me some time. And she just wasn't satisfied

615
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: with that and just had a whole lot of resentment

616
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,479
Speaker 1: towards me. And then we try to do therapy. Therapist said, hey, bro,

617
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: like she's a little too much and y'all are just

618
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: arguing back and forth. I just can't work with y'all.

619
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: And but basically, long story short, she kept me away

620
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: from my daughter, and you know, I mean that's just

621
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: she just had that resentment towards me from what I know,

622
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: and she thinks she thought I wasn't like a good person.

623
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: Back then, I'm like, I want to do my best, dude.

624
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll trying to navigate my life and make

625
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: sure I made enough money to keep myself aflow first

626
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: before I could help out somebody else. Then when I started,

627
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: I made full time, I started making a lot of money,

628
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: and then I was like, cool, I can make this happen.

629
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: It was very consistent work, very consistent, and then I

630
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: pulled the trigger to go sue her and then get

631
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: my daughter or just to have her in my life,

632
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: you know, put myself on child support. And it was

633
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: like a six seven months like grueling process legally, and

634
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: it was fucking horrible and probably one of the worst

635
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: times of my life. And but but here I am now,

636
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I don't know if to answer

637
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: your question, I guess about why my baby mama was

638
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: like so press on that keeping me around. You know,

639
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: I just think she was.

640
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 3: I'm sure, I mean, well, fuck, I don't know. It

641
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: sounds to me like, uh, yeah, I guess if you

642
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 3: I guess if you hadn't seen her, uh since until

643
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 3: she was three, I can I don't know. I'm no

644
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 3: fucking I don't know. I don't understand. I don't know.

645
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 3: I'm no family psychologist or whatever. But I guess I

646
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 3: can understand why she would be uh apprehensive. And yeah,

647
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 3: the way you phrased it where you were like, I

648
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 3: want to build a natural relationship, not just like take

649
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 3: her and be like, you know, hey, I'm this new guy. Uh,

650
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 3: because that's probably a crazy difficult integration to make after

651
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: three years. But but I mean still I think, I mean,

652
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 3: seven is seven. It's like nothing that's so young, you know.

653
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 3: Another you know, you got eleven years until uh college already,

654
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 3: yeah you got you got it sounds as though there

655
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 3: was still time to invest yourself deeply in uh in

656
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 3: this this this this kid's life to the degree that

657
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 3: I want to to the to the to the to

658
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 3: the level that you want to and we're previously unable

659
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 3: to do. So, you know, hope, hope, hopefully you get

660
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 3: that in your air conditioning.

661
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, no, no, yeah, you stupid. I'm over here

662
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: in my fucking feelings. You bring up air conditioning. Ship. No,

663
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, man, I mean yeah, I mean that's

664
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: where I'm at right now. I mean, I don't know.

665
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: I have a meetium with my lawyer on Tuesday, and.

666
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 3: You wait, wait, you're still you're still you're still fighting

667
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: with this person. I thought everything was.

668
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: Like because like it's like because our our our temporary

669
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: order is coming up and we had to finalize something

670
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: or the case gets thrown out, and basically all my

671
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: hard work has been for nothing.

672
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 3: So I don't, sorry, I don't, I don't understand. What's

673
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 3: the what do you mean the case? What's the case.

674
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: It's like it's a temporary order we had, like my

675
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: daughter and the child support stuff. You know, it's basically

676
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: it was a temporary order that we didn't finalize because

677
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: everything was going pretty good until this year. And yeah,

678
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: you know, I yeah, the plan was, you know, like

679
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: to keep the temporary order as long as possible so

680
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: we don't have to go through lawyers because fucking lawyers

681
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: are expensive. Maybe we can wear something out, but yeah,

682
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. It just hasn't been going that way.

683
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 3: And it's kind of I mean, you guys, are you

684
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: guys not cordial enough that you that you just can't

685
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 3: work out some kind of schedule independently.

686
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: Well right now not. I can't have her by myself

687
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: before she starts panicking in when in her mom and

688
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: sh like that. It just freaking the fuck out, you

689
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Does that make sense? Yeah? I don't.

690
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to put her through that. I've seen

691
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: her cry before and get like stressed out and like anxious,

692
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: and it breaks my heart to see that ship. So

693
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I know, I.

694
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 3: Get I get I get you, and I you know,

695
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 3: I respect that. I respect that you're like, uh, from

696
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 3: my perspective at least you know, you know, the past. Notwithstanding,

697
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm like, you know, I think I'll say

698
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. It seems as though you're making decisions

699
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 3: that are like best for the kid and not just

700
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 3: like some ego of like, no, you are mine and

701
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 3: you must spend this time with me.

702
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know I respect that. I mean like,

703
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: I mean that. I think that's I don't. I hate

704
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: going over there. I hate, you know, just like I

705
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: want to just have her at my place and ship

706
00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: like that. But whatever she's comfortable with. And I feel

707
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: like I do low key feel like I'm failing my

708
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: child if I don't take her though, And I feel

709
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: like I'm like a gets like a bitch if I don't,

710
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 1: you know, like retaliate or fight back on this, you know.

711
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: But I think I don't know if I'm making the

712
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: right decision. Basically, I don't know. I don't know. I

713
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: don't I'm not looking at chat. I don't know with

714
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: chat saying or anything like that. If you could give

715
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 1: me some advice from chat, I appreciate it. Major's professor,

716
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: you want it.

717
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 3: Here's I'll tell you one thing, what you're going through

718
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 3: is very difficult, uh, you know, with with custody of

719
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 3: a child, and you know how to be in your

720
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 3: child's life.

721
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: Uh.

722
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 3: And I definitely would not seek advice about it from

723
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 3: a Twitch chat. That's probably the last place I would

724
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 3: go for advice on your issue. I would talk to

725
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 3: a therapist or a psychologist or a child person or

726
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 3: a lie and I I will do you a service

727
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 3: by not taking questions from the twitch chat on this

728
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: difficult issue that you're going through.

729
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: Oh no, I have I have a therapist. Yeah, okay, yeah,

730
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: I mean mostly just to talk about the UPS shit.

731
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: But I'm like, god, man, this motherfucker got me my feelings, man,

732
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: God damn all right, cool, I'll talk fuck it.

733
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 3: Well, uh well, listen, man, thanks for thanks for talk

734
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 3: talking to us about ups. Thanks for sharing all this stuff.

735
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 3: I don't know. Sometimes sometimes people because there's always gonna

736
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: be there's always gonna be like some fucking dude in

737
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 3: the YouTube comments who writes an essay. I read all

738
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: the YouTube comments, by the way, it like, it makes me.

739
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 3: It makes me happy when like there's people in the

740
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 3: YouTube comments that are like, hey, man, dealt with the

741
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 3: same thing blah blah blah blah blah. So they'll probably

742
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 3: be some dude like that, and they'll also be someone

743
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 3: who's mad at you and someone who I like whatever,

744
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know, I fucking don't know, but yeah, dude,

745
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 3: thanks for thanks for sharing. Good luck on good luck

746
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 3: on your on on all of your issues air conditioning

747
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 3: and otherwise. There anything else you want to say to

748
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 3: the people of the computer before we go.

749
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: Fuck, I mean thank you. Not everyone is be kind

750
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: to yourself, but be kind to others, I guess. And yeah,

751
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: I hope everyone has to get rust of your day. Thanks, uh,

752
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: thanks gag for a I'm a big fan. I appreciate

753
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 1: you found on TikTok. You're the shit.

754
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have a good night, thanks man, good luck Bay. Yeah,

755
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 3: that's tough. That's really really tough. I wish I wish

756
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 3: I got how old that guy was, because I couldn't.

757
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 3: He was probably he sounds like he was maybe I

758
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 3: don't know. Sometimes people call him with like deep voices

759
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 3: and they're, you know, nineteen or whatever. But he sounded

760
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 3: like he was, uh maybe like at most thirty four.

761
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: His kid was seven, so but I'm twenty six. He

762
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 3: probably had that. I'm going to assume he had that

763
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 3: kid when he was younger than me. And that's tough.

764
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 3: That's a hard thing. Kids, This is it's a hard thing.

765
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 3: I think I want I want to have kids one day,

766
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 3: but I don't want to do it anytime remotely soon.

767
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 3: I think probably not for another like ten or twelve years,

768
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 3: because I don't want to. I don't want to have

769
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 3: a kid and let in unless if I'm like a

770
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 3: hundred I think back, like back in in previous generations

771
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 3: up until like kind of recently, I think people just

772
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 3: pop them out like it was just it was just

773
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 3: what you did, right, And I think maybe in this

774
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 3: generation people are being a little bit more like, hey,

775
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 3: you know what, let me like make sure that I'm

776
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 3: in a position to properly do this. Think about, like,

777
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 3: am I with the right person to do this with?

778
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 3: Am I do I have my finances in order to

779
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 3: do this? And you know, I'm still eating Reesei's pieces

780
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 3: for dinner, So I don't think I can take care

781
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 3: of a child uh anytime? So am I saying that

782
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 3: it's going to take me to twelve years to become

783
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 3: the kind of person that doesn't eat recent pieces for dinner?

784
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: I hope not. But it gives me a lot of

785
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 3: comfort to have that much runway. I think that color's

786
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 3: name was I think I gave him the name Nick.

787
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 3: Thank you for calling Nick?

788
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: Hi?

789
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 3: Hi, what is your name?

790
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 2: I'm Tizzy?

791
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 3: Tizzy Tizzy uh with T I Z z Y. Yes, Well,

792
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 3: what the hell is going on? Tizzy? How can I

793
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 3: get you what you want to talk about?

794
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a good question. Yeah, I was thinking

795
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 2: about coming to see you in Pittsburgh, but I don't

796
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 2: know if you still have tickets left or do I

797
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: have a friend's kind of see you in Philly? Is

798
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 2: really excited?

799
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 3: Oh cool? Oh yeah, no I did. I did my

800
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 3: Philly show U this week. Yeah, I'm playing at the

801
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 3: Bottle Rocket, which I've heard is in Pittsburgh. I'm playing

802
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 3: at this with a Bottle Rocket Social club. I've heard

803
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 3: it's a cool venue. I'm very excited for that. So yeah,

804
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 3: I help you come, but you know you can also

805
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: you can also you can. You know there's a lot

806
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 3: to do in Pittsburgh, so I wouldn't be surprised if

807
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 3: you had other places and not really, So what's going on?

808
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: Man?

809
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:23,439
Speaker 3: Would you want to talk about?

810
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 2: I was what's the longest you've ever slept? Because yesterday

811
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: I went to sleep at like twelve thirty am and

812
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: I woke up at seven pm and I had a

813
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: lot to do yesterday, and I kind of woke up

814
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 2: and I looked at outside him I saw it was evening,

815
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: and I said, you know there, yeah, I think I

816
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 2: have I burned today, like there's nothing for me to do.

817
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: I had.

818
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I've done that. I've burned multiple days in

819
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 3: a row sleeping, I saw. But but usually when I'm

820
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 3: doing that, it's because I maybe had a few days

821
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 3: in a row where I was staying up too late

822
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 3: or something like that, or maybe I just like, well,

823
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 3: like when I get really, really fucking depressed, all I

824
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 3: want to do is sleep because it's sleep is cool.

825
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 3: It's like dying without all the commitments. Okay, so I

826
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 3: definitely I like doing that. Well are you did you

827
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 3: just what do you do? You think there's a reason

828
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 3: why you've been sleeping so much?

829
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: Uh?

830
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have also been staying up pretty late, you know, smoking,

831
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 2: not smoking, but like getting high. And you know, I'm

832
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 2: I'm really depressed as well, so that definitely plays into it.

833
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: Like I wake up a lot of times and I

834
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 2: just lay in bed for an hour two hours?

835
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 3: What do you just real quick, what do you mean

836
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 3: by your smoke? You're not smoking, but you're getting high.

837
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: Not you know, vaping edibles.

838
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, how how old are you? If I may ask?

839
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 3: I'm curious three. Okay, and so you're are you sleeping

840
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 3: because you're by the way, I'm not I'm about to

841
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 3: play armchair therapist, which I guess is my thing, but

842
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 3: I'm just want to I just want to clarify that

843
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 3: I'm not a real therapist because I'm about to go

844
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 3: I'm about to go very therapist mode on this phone call.

845
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 2: Yeah right, no, I yeah, I know why you Oh sorry,

846
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 2: go ahead.

847
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

848
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 2: I listened to your podcast like probably every day. Like

849
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: I think I'm I'm on the premium thing because I

850
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: used to listen to you a lot, and like the

851
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 2: ads started getting annoying some like, you know, I'll pay

852
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: the whatever.

853
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 3: Thanks, thanks for throwing a little thanks for throwing a

854
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 3: little ad for for therapy Gecko premium uh in this call.

855
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 3: But anyway, so why are you why? Like you are

856
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 3: are you sleeping so much? Because you're depressed?

857
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely has to do with it. I like,

858
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 2: I'm on some medication, but it's uh, I don't know

859
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 2: if it's working. I've been on it for like six months,

860
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: and I think I'm gonna like ask my psych to

861
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 2: cycle me or something like that put me on something

862
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: new because it's just like every day it just feels

863
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: like I have to do something distract myself, like play

864
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: lots of video games or like you know, get high

865
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: or drink or something, or like play games on my phone,

866
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: watch YouTube like I used to. I used to have

867
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: a really bad I mean I still technically I have

868
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 2: a porn addiction, which you seem to get a lot

869
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 2: of cold about on this show.

870
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 3: Bro, do you want to hear Do you actually want

871
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 3: to hear something completely insane?

872
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: Uh?

873
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 3: This, dude, I'll just tell you this. This morning I

874
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 3: went on chat GPT and I was like, I think

875
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 3: I don't I'm trying to pull it up. But this

876
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 3: morning I went on chat GBT and I was like,

877
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 3: I'm trying to quit weed, alcohol, sugar, and porn, but

878
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 3: I use them to to get over anxiety and depression.

879
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 3: How do I do that? So I I literally literally

880
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 3: asked chat GBT how I personally could do that this morning?

881
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 3: So I'm I'm I'm right, I'm right there with your brother.

882
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 3: I've been thinking about this a lot because I've been

883
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: like actually fairly depressed and miserable in my personal life.

884
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 3: I might not seem like it in this very moment

885
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 3: because because and this actually ties into what I my thing,

886
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 3: I might not seem like it in this very moment

887
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 3: because I am in the flow state of doing something

888
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 3: that is actively taking my attention away from those things

889
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 3: and read rectally get into something productive, which is talking

890
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 3: to you and having making this podcast. And so I'm

891
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 3: just I'm at a point for me where I'm like, uh, Okay,

892
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 3: how do I fill my life with as much in

893
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 3: the moment productive flow state things as humanly possible so

894
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 3: that I'm not fucking destroying myself? And it's actually kind

895
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 3: of a you know, it's a question I'm in the

896
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 3: middle of answering on a macro level, but that kind

897
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 3: of feels like it's the answer, right, is like, well,

898
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 3: I'm doing all these negative behaviors because I get fucking

899
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 3: anxious and depressed, and uh, it's like, well, how do

900
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 3: I put myself in situations where I'm not feeling those

901
00:45:55,320 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 3: things as much? I don't have the perfect answers to

902
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 3: those questions, but those are the questions, you know.

903
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 2: I think that might be a little like unrealistic. I think, like,

904
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 2: you know, people talk about the flow state a lot

905
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: these days, but I don't think your life can just

906
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: be moving between states of flow all the time, Like

907
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 2: there's gonna be you know, you're gonna be pooping at

908
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: some point, you know, Like, yeah, I have a lot

909
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 2: of dark thoughts when I'm pooping or like I'm in

910
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:24,959
Speaker 2: the shower and it's like that's not a flow state,

911
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 2: and like or like I'm doing laundry or something like

912
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: there's I feel like most of my life is not

913
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 2: doing anything productive or or something meaningful, and I feel

914
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 2: like I have to not want to kill myself during

915
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 2: those times as well. Yeah, so I think it has

916
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 2: to be more than just distracting myself, even if it's

917
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 2: a in a meaningful way.

918
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,439
Speaker 3: Yes, I agree with you, Okay, not to keep talking

919
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 3: about myself, but I'm gonna do it for a second.

920
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 3: Like these like like I'm on tour right now, I'm

921
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 3: doing these shows. And when I'm like on stage, you're

922
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 3: doing the shows or touring or in an airplane or

923
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 3: do like doing all this stuff. You know, I definitely

924
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 3: like get depressed a little bit while I'm doing this stuff.

925
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 3: But I have noticed I'm on a flow state. I

926
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 3: am distracted. I'm doing something and I'm like, oh, this

927
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 3: is great, but I'm also like, well, fuck, I can't

928
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 3: literally be doing this one hundred percent of the time.

929
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 3: As you've said, Yes, it's true, you can't just jump

930
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 3: from flow state thing to flow state thing to flow

931
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 3: state thing. Eventually you have to do laundry. Eventually, you

932
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 3: have to be alone. Eventually, you have to do you

933
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 3: have to live kind of boring life. Can't be this amazing, beautiful, exciting, active,

934
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 3: productive thing one hundred percent of the time. You can.

935
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 3: I think you can kind of get to a point

936
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 3: where it's like that I don't even I don't want

937
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 3: to say most of the time, but where you know,

938
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 3: there's there's where those things are or I'll say this,

939
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 3: you can get to a point where those things and

940
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 3: those feelings are present in your life. But yes, it's true,

941
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 3: you have to figure out how to not want to

942
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 3: kill yourself while you're just sitting in a room doing nothing.

943
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 3: So I agree with you on that. I don't have

944
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 3: any I don't have strategies on not accomplishing that because

945
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure it out myself. But I agree

946
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 3: with you. I mean, what what works for you?

947
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 2: You know it's something worth I definitely i'd write a

948
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 2: book about it or something, but sure, Yeah, I'm in

949
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 2: like a twelve step program for my addiction that's been helping.

950
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 2: They talk about your higher power turning to them for

951
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 2: guidance and stuff like that. I was never like religious

952
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 2: growing up, so it's kind of difficult for me to

953
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 2: do that, but I find it is like kind of helpful,

954
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 2: you know, like talking to God asking God for help.

955
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 2: I don't really understand what that is for me completely

956
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 2: because I'm pretty new at this, and so that that

957
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 2: that's an approach I've been trying. I've been trying. Also,

958
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 2: there's this YouTuber named Sissyphis fifty five. I don't know

959
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 2: if you've ever seen in the videos, but he he

960
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: does like the stick Man videos.

961
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 3: Okay, I think I've heard of this guy.

962
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so he Oh, that's actually not the guy's thinking,

963
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 2: you know, casually explained. So that's the guy who does like,

964
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 2: you know, how to tell if a girl likes you

965
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 2: and stuff.

966
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, I know what that is.

967
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. So he has an alternate channel called Jamie's Channel,

968
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 2: and he uploaded this video about self realization and he

969
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 2: talks about how like the idea, we have an idea

970
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 2: of ourselves and so like I have an idea who

971
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 2: Lyle the gecko is, and it's just like a bundle

972
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 2: of symbols that I have, Like he's green and he

973
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 2: talked to people on the phone. Yes, So I imagine

974
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 2: that when other people I talk to talk to me,

975
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 2: they have an image of me as well. So apparently

976
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 2: most people confuse that image with who they really are,

977
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 2: and that is the cause of most suffering in life,

978
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 2: because like if someone insults you, for example, that's not

979
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 2: really an attack on you, Like nothing about your experience

980
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 2: has changed, but your belief about yourself has changed. And

981
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 2: he says that you were able to completely disidentify with

982
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 2: this illusion that you will stop suffering. It's really it's

983
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 2: a really cool video essay. But I guess I'm like

984
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 2: trying to I think about that all the time, and

985
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 2: I'm trying to do it and incorporate it or achieve

986
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 2: whatever realization he's talking about.

987
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 3: But it seems like impossible to shake almost you what

988
00:50:58,360 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 3: is this image that you're trying to shake? This is

989
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 3: the image that you think other people have of you.

990
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 2: It's not just like the image that I think other

991
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 2: people have of me. It's like the image that I

992
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 2: used to understand my own experience. Like like the example

993
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 2: he used in the video is like a TV if

994
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 2: it was to show it's like, okay, what am I like?

995
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 2: It keeps showing images on the screen of what it's

996
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 2: what it is, and shows like a picture of itself

997
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 2: maybe and that's pretty like a pretty good depiction of

998
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 2: what it is. But it's not it right because the

999
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 2: TV is the screen. It can't actually display what it

1000
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 2: is on there. So it's like the image is whatever

1001
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 2: you think you are, but you literally can't think about

1002
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 2: yourself because you are yourself. So yeah, I guess the

1003
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 2: image is like anything that any ideas you have about yourself,

1004
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 2: like I am smart, I am a son or whatever, like, no,

1005
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 2: that's not you. That's just a symbol of you that

1006
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 2: you've identified with.

1007
00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 3: Interesting, m I mean just this just thinking about the

1008
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 3: I guess there. I do believe that like there we

1009
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 3: form fucking like like we form narratives and stories about

1010
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 3: our self and about the universe that we believe are

1011
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 3: like reality, whereas like reality is this fucking amorphous, undefined

1012
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 3: thing that kind of lives in every single person's perception maybe, uh,

1013
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 3: And so in that way, it can kind of be

1014
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 3: whatever you want maybe, but if you, if you, if

1015
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 3: the stories you have about yourself and the narratives you

1016
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 3: have about yourself that you fucking suck, then you just

1017
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 3: canna make life bad. So yeah, I kind of agree.

1018
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 3: Get I get what you mean. I give what you mean?

1019
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 2: What do you can?

1020
00:52:58,440 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 3: I say?

1021
00:52:58,760 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: What do you do?

1022
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 3: It's like, what's your what's your what's your life?

1023
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: Like?

1024
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 3: Like, do you go to school, do you work?

1025
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: You talk to me? I'm a grad. I'm a grad student.

1026
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 2: I'm studying mechanical engineering. Okay, so I guess I talk

1027
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 2: to people. It's difficult, like because I'm living I grew

1028
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: up in New Jersey, Like all my friends and family

1029
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,760
Speaker 2: and stuff are there, and I'm out here doing my masters,

1030
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 2: so I don't really have a good sport structure out here.

1031
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 2: So it's there are some days I go without like

1032
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 2: talking to anyone, which is pretty bad. I'm trying to

1033
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 2: change that, but it's what do you What do you

1034
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 2: do to try to change that? You know? I go

1035
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 2: to these twelve step meetings. I try to call people up.

1036
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 2: I try to hang out with people and message them

1037
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 2: and stuff to see if we can do something. But

1038
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 2: it's it's tough. I'm like kind of uh, really anxious

1039
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 2: about connecting with people. I guess.

1040
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 3: I mean I like the tall step stuff as a

1041
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 3: as a way of community. You said you listened to

1042
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 3: every episode of the podcast, right, yeah, yeah, did you

1043
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 3: listen to the one that I put out today?

1044
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 2: Yes?

1045
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 3: What did you hear the pinball Lady?

1046
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1047
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I like the Pinball Lady. I think I've

1048
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 3: been thinking. I had that conversation yesterday, but I've been

1049
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 3: thinking about the pinball Lady. I liked her a lot

1050
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 3: because she just fucking went for it, you know what

1051
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 3: I mean. And I understand. I understand that, like, uh,

1052
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 3: for some some people are just wired differently to have

1053
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 3: more social anxiety, whether it's because of I don't know

1054
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 3: who their parents were, or experiences they had, or the

1055
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 3: brain chemistry whatever. I understand. I get that. I I

1056
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 3: you know, I empathize with that. But I I don't know.

1057
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 3: I thought. I think about the pinball Lady because she

1058
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 3: just fucking went for it. She was just like, I

1059
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 3: want to make friends, I want to have a community,

1060
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 3: I want to be around other people. Let me start

1061
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 3: throwing pinball tournaments.

1062
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: You know.

1063
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 3: She came up with a creative solution to her people problem.

1064
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 3: I was inspired by that on like a personal level.

1065
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I don't know if if something

1066
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 3: like that. I'm not literally saying start a pinball tournament,

1067
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 3: but you go, what I mean, I don't know if

1068
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 3: something like that appeals to you, especially as a grad student.

1069
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 3: I mean, you're on a college campus. You're around a lot.

1070
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 3: I don't know if you're literally like but I don't

1071
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Speaker 3: know if you live on campus or whatever. But you know,

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Speaker 3: if you're on a college campus, you're around a lot

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Speaker 3: of people. The opportunities for you to socialize exist. And again,

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Speaker 3: I don't know how you're wired or what makes you

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Speaker 3: feel whatever.

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Speaker 2: But.

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Speaker 3: You just I just think it's likely for you to

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Speaker 3: be happier if you're around more people. I mean, you

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Speaker 3: just said yourself that you'll have many times where you're

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Speaker 3: not around anyone. And that's just a recipe for for fucking.

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Speaker 3: That's a recipe for porn. That's a strong recipe for

1082
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 3: sitting around all day, jacking off, getting high, drinking and

1083
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 3: eating candy. That's a that's really I have a one

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00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 3: of my friends said to me that he loves going

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Speaker 3: outside because he can't jack off. It's just it's one

1086
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 3: of the reasons. It's like an it's like accountability. It's well, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, ye, sure you can, but you're not. That's

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Speaker 3: not gonna be it's against social contract. He's held accountable

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Speaker 3: by social contract to not jack off. So he goes

1090
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Speaker 3: outside and or he and he goes in public and

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Speaker 3: it's great. That's one of the great things about being

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Speaker 3: in public is that you can't be a fucking crazy

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00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 3: person that holds you accountable to that. So that's I

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00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 3: guess that's my that's my that's that's my spiel. That's

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00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 3: my spiel.

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Speaker 2: Gotta go ahead, Yeah, this is this seems to like

1097
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 2: come up on your podcast a lot, you know, the

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Speaker 2: adult film stuff. I think you had kazum Me on.

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Speaker 2: You had a lot of girls seem to call in

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Speaker 2: and ask about having an only fans, like starting an

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00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 2: only fans for some reason, And yeah, it makes me

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00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 2: think a lot. I thought, like I studied like some

1103
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:37,439
Speaker 2: to like a feminist class and undergrad and like read

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00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 2: about it sometimes and they're like talk about how it's

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00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 2: coercive like the industry and stuff, and I think it's like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not. I know, you don't give advice per se

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00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 2: and but it's like, dude, girls are like, should I

1108
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 2: start an only fans? You're like, well, if you want to,

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00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 2: But it's like, what what does it mean to want

1110
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 2: and do that? Like, especially if they're much younger, I

1111
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 2: feel like they don't know what they're getting into a

1112
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Speaker 2: lot of the times, because it's something very difficult to

1113
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 2: get out of, right if you go to go apply

1114
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 2: for a job or something that comes up, like maybe

1115
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 2: that's going to be something you're pigeon doled into the

1116
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Speaker 2: right for the rest of your life, and it seems

1117
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 2: like a little exploitative and stuff like that. I think

1118
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Speaker 2: about that a lot.

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Speaker 3: Well, Well, the reason I say if you want to

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Speaker 3: is because it's like it's I mean, that's what I is.

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Speaker 3: If you want to, you know, I don't know. I

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00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 3: don't like this is a pure matter of personal philosophy,

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Speaker 3: Like I don't like porn and sex and like all

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Speaker 3: these things, Like I don't. I think people are very

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Speaker 3: very precious about it, and I think people have a

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Speaker 3: lot of opinions about it. I personally, lie do not.

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00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 3: I understand that society has a lot of like personal

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Speaker 3: like moral whatever about like porn and sex, and it's

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Speaker 3: taboo and whatever. Maybe it's just because I personally don't

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Speaker 3: that I'm not as keyed into what society's views are

1131
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Speaker 3: of it. But I also I don't think that I

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00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 3: don't know, I'm not a big fan of bending to

1133
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Speaker 3: society's judgments and wills, and so that's why I'm like, So,

1134
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Speaker 3: that's why I'm like, look, dude, you're you're an independent

1135
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Speaker 3: human being who can make who you know, like like that,

1136
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 3: like the girl on the Yeah, sure you're talking about

1137
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 3: that girl on the podcast. I think I even said

1138
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Speaker 3: the story. It's not like she thought about it and

1139
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 3: decided she trying to do it. Yeah, So what does

1140
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Speaker 3: it mean to want to do something? I don't know.

1141
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Speaker 3: That's that's too, that's too, I don't That's an interesting

1142
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 3: question that we could probably spend the next six hours

1143
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 3: talking about. But what's your name again, Sir Tizzy? Oh yeah,

1144
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 3: well Tizzy, it was good to talk to you. I

1145
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 3: hope that you.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I wasn't trying to tell you like you

1147
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 2: should have said that.

1148
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Speaker 3: No, I don't think. I don't. I don't. I don't

1149
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 3: think you were trying to do anything. Okay, Yeah, so no,

1150
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 3: I thought you were trying to talk to a gecko

1151
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 3: on the phone about stuff, which is what we successfully

1152
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 3: did do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's you know, that's the thing I think the

1154
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 2: lesson that I've learned the most reviews. You never judge anyone,

1155
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 2: it seems like when you talk to them, and something

1156
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 2: I've been trying to do in my life.

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Speaker 3: But well, yeah, I think, I mean, I try to.

1158
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Speaker 3: I guess I do it sometimes, but only to be funny.

1159
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 2: I like that guy I kept driving his car down

1160
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Speaker 2: the mountain at night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, oh well yeah, well that that was fucking stupid.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Well anyway, well listen, well, thanks thanks

1163
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 3: for listening to the show.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: I have a lot of these same problems, so I'm

1166
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Speaker 3: gonna also try to work on them and not I'm

1167
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 3: gonna also figure out how to how to you know,

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Speaker 3: not do things that are you know, self destructive and uh,

1169
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 3: you know, maybe one day you and I will meet

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01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 3: at the gates of Saint Peter and God will let

1171
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Speaker 3: us in and at that point we can just jack

1172
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Speaker 3: off as much as we want because we're dead. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: is there anything else you want to say to the

1174
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 3: people of the computer before we go.

1175
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Speaker 2: Buy government buy us savings bonds.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, by Tizzy.

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Speaker 2: No thanks.

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01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 3: Let's see, should should you buy us savings bonds? I

1179
01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 3: guess I don't know where to buy them or like

1180
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 3: how they were. I don't know how bonds were. I

1181
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 3: get how like stock like the SP five hundred works, whatever,

1182
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 3: I don't get how bonds work. That's it. That's my

1183
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 3: post call thought.

1184
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: Never Can goes on the line taking your phone calls

1185
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 1: every night. Never be Can goes to on his Ee,

1186
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: you're just

1187
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Speaker 3: Teaching you about in the mid of your life, but

1188
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 3: he's not really an expert.