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Speaker 1: and O R. What up is d j e F
Speaker 1: and his drink chat? Ya yallow ma up. When we
Speaker 1: think of the West Coast, when we think of a
Speaker 1: person who's been standing here phenomenal, you think of a
Speaker 1: person who stood by Dr dre side. If we heard
Speaker 1: he's still running the pharmacy right now. It's this very
Speaker 1: moment he's transition and went into another whole direction and
Speaker 1: he made motherfucking cars. Pam Baker. He has stood the
Speaker 1: test of time. You see him on Fox TV. Out here,
Speaker 1: I ain't doing what I gotta do, still out here
Speaker 1: with the thickest Cubans, making the West Coast look good.
Speaker 1: If you don't know what I'm talking about, we're talking
Speaker 1: about the one the only said, you've been out here
Speaker 1: monkey footing this game for a long goddamn time. You
Speaker 1: got one of the most rememberable videos of all times.
Speaker 1: What you get? Man? That was crazy. It was the
Speaker 1: first time we seen a person like even though it
Speaker 1: might have not been one take, it looked like one
Speaker 1: take like that. That's how we've seen me. Like what
Speaker 1: the yeah? That was like, I mean, there's a story
Speaker 1: behind that video. When I was on a Loud Records
Speaker 1: of that video that was I was gonna get to
Speaker 1: That's a big part of it. So I was on
Speaker 1: a love of records and at the time it was
Speaker 1: like heavyweights on the label and and and we had
Speaker 1: a West Coast office, and in the West Coast office
Speaker 1: it was me the alcohol I think um seller dwellers,
Speaker 1: going back and forth. But they was trying to break
Speaker 1: it into the West, and so we were kind of
Speaker 1: like on our own island, and you we all know
Speaker 1: you can't go to war from my island. So I
Speaker 1: had to be more creative with in order to impress
Speaker 1: the New York office. You know, uh, shout out to
Speaker 1: Matt Life's Scott Free, all those guys. Yes, So so
Speaker 1: I went to uh, I got to um, I got
Speaker 1: to this idea of wanted to do this one shot video,
Speaker 1: and all the directors that I kept talking to didn't
Speaker 1: They couldn't wrap their head around it. And so I
Speaker 1: didn't want to give up on the idea. So there's
Speaker 1: one director that wanted to actually do it, but he
Speaker 1: was a porn director. Yeah, and so he was crazy.
Speaker 1: He's like, you know I could, I'm shooting all kinds
Speaker 1: of other wild ship Why why couldn't I do that?
Speaker 1: So we it's third it was thirteen shots. We we
Speaker 1: did it in like two days, two days, and then
Speaker 1: we put that thing out and then it just took off,
Speaker 1: and I think I was like the first real impression
Speaker 1: I got to the music industry. Well, everybody had to
Speaker 1: step our video game. Yeah, the game. Just in case
Speaker 1: you didn't know that anybody, because we had beatings about you.
Speaker 1: This guy the water and the water come on, this
Speaker 1: doesn't allow. But I wanted. I wanted to do like
Speaker 1: videos like that, Like that was you know, I was
Speaker 1: new to the industry, like paparazzi. That was my idea
Speaker 1: to put the orchestra on the beach because I just
Speaker 1: wanted to do other than what everybody else was doing.
Speaker 1: I've always tried to be like that and a true
Speaker 1: drink chaps fashion. You're a real drink chap because when
Speaker 1: I googled you, I realized that you got married and
Speaker 1: the rest of them the same same drink, you know,
Speaker 1: which is great. Only I could do that. You know.
Speaker 1: It was first of all, I love being married, and
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, it turned into us I
Speaker 1: love being married to by the way, absolutely And it
Speaker 1: was a beautiful ceremony. We had, you know, all our
Speaker 1: friends and family there and we everything went off without
Speaker 1: a hitch. I got back to you know, we were
Speaker 1: standing in the resort next to the place we got married,
Speaker 1: and then we ended up getting in the room and
Speaker 1: my wife was like, you forgot the box, you know,
Speaker 1: the box where everybody dropped the gifts, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, right, the money, and so I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know what, it's right around the corner. I feel good.
Speaker 1: Let me run to go get to every ship. So
Speaker 1: I hit the corner, got the box, came back out, stopped.
Speaker 1: You know. I was really excited about getting back and uh,
Speaker 1: I hit a light and then lights came on. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you so right, So you did hit it. Like
Speaker 1: so it's not like like the police, let's not racial, Like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna give them that I did. I did
Speaker 1: fly fly like you know what I'm saying. And so
Speaker 1: they lit me up. So I pulled over the thing
Speaker 1: and I was literally, I mean like, this is the
Speaker 1: this is where I got stopped. This was the hotel,
Speaker 1: you know. And so so I was telling I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know, I just got married. I was just here.
Speaker 1: It was there and this and this. My motherfucker said,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, wi's your tuxedough. I was like, nick, I
Speaker 1: just you know what fun you just you know, just
Speaker 1: I got time for this. I was in there for
Speaker 1: about an hour, you know what I'm saying. It didn't
Speaker 1: the folks came and got me. But the next day
Speaker 1: it was like it was you know, how do you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It was all over the place,
Speaker 1: it was fucked up. Then I was mad, as you
Speaker 1: can tell my booking photo man. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: you know, now it's it's it's it's a funny story.
Speaker 1: You know. Definitely only I could pull some ship like
Speaker 1: that crazy. So now when you described earlier, you said
Speaker 1: loud right now again, we just had that press on
Speaker 1: here too, And you guys were like that was like
Speaker 1: the epitome of you guys, that pig, big punt. Like,
Speaker 1: how is it even being on a legend every label
Speaker 1: like that? Is it competitive? Is it like like you
Speaker 1: describe it, all the New York niggas hated us. I said,
Speaker 1: it was two separate things, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And it was like when we go to the office,
Speaker 1: it was like all these niggas is here. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Because at the time, you know, Wu
Speaker 1: Tang was a juggernaut, you know what I'm saying, Um,
Speaker 1: it was, it was super. So it was like we
Speaker 1: always had to prove ourselves and then when we got victory.
Speaker 1: When you're saying we, you're saying West Coast West Coast.
Speaker 1: It wasn't the hardest or the executives or the people
Speaker 1: in the office. It was just like you want, man,
Speaker 1: you know what it was back in the day. I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, you know, it's like we used to it.
Speaker 1: You know, West Coast niggas flying to New York. The
Speaker 1: radio DJ played the ship when they come from the airport,
Speaker 1: then you know it's there. And then when they go home,
Speaker 1: it's like like that. It's like that, let's keep it.
Speaker 1: But that's what I mean, not now, not now, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because the too global, but what
Speaker 1: hip hop was very regional at the time, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And so when we would come in,
Speaker 1: we would always have to be proving ourselves. And so
Speaker 1: once we started having success, especially like behind what you
Speaker 1: see is what you get. And then when we started
Speaker 1: doing the doctor's race stuff, it was kind of like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: it's accepted and it was a different field when it
Speaker 1: came in the office. But Steve Refkin, Rich Isaacson, you know,
Speaker 1: all these guys were like really behind what we were doing,
Speaker 1: and so it was a struggle at first, but then
Speaker 1: once they saw how serious it was getting, it became
Speaker 1: something like it we became part of the family, and
Speaker 1: what was that a goal for you? It is like
Speaker 1: to be accepted in New York because we know absolutely,
Speaker 1: because we know like for us it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: we we invented hip hop or whatever, but we we
Speaker 1: in the funny ways we look for y'all for cool signmon,
Speaker 1: like we looked to y'all to be like and then.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if it did ever mean like
Speaker 1: for y'all to be accepted. Absolutely absolutely, I remember going
Speaker 1: and I remember we used to walk down the streets
Speaker 1: in New York drinking forties. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: sitting on the stool, just going. I remember taking the
Speaker 1: train when I went to by myself to go to
Speaker 1: see Master Ace, when I first got to train, by
Speaker 1: the way. But it sounds very dangerous, Well, I mean
Speaker 1: I wasn't I I think so because they always put
Speaker 1: out of town man, and they don't want to put
Speaker 1: us in the jungle. But but we can. Well you know,
Speaker 1: I would just I would love coming to New York
Speaker 1: and and and sitting in the studios and and and
Speaker 1: listening to the vibes and listening to because out in
Speaker 1: the West, you know, there's only a few cats that
Speaker 1: are considered lyrical, you know what I'm saying, and so
Speaker 1: yeah and so um, you know me feeling like I
Speaker 1: wanted to be part of that. UM. I would always
Speaker 1: seek out people that I felt lyrical as well. So
Speaker 1: that's that's why I'm being accepted in New York was
Speaker 1: so important. I remember going to New York and shooting
Speaker 1: the I think you were there too, the greatest day
Speaker 1: in hip hop that they had everybody, like everybody lined
Speaker 1: up on the steps. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a
Speaker 1: really big deal for me. I got a lot of
Speaker 1: respect for the DJs, the culture, the m c s,
Speaker 1: you know, the breakdance and graffiti, everything that came from
Speaker 1: New York. You know what I'm saying. You know what
Speaker 1: the crazy ship is social me. If you'd have had
Speaker 1: social media back then, you you wouldn't realize how much
Speaker 1: of New York appreciated you more. That's the problem is
Speaker 1: you can't find these people because back then there was
Speaker 1: no way to get in. I knew. I knew because
Speaker 1: I walked down the street and people tell me exactly,
Speaker 1: and then people wasn't playing the records and exactly. It
Speaker 1: was good, but y'all thought I was from there first.
Speaker 1: I mean, there was like this legal from what you
Speaker 1: were whole The whole crew was spitting speaking of LIX
Speaker 1: because you gotta record with the albumhost. When you say
Speaker 1: drinking a Henny is a gift, yeah, I could drink
Speaker 1: a whole Hennessey filth. So I called out a problem,
Speaker 1: but I call it a gift. We just want to
Speaker 1: see you start that just wants alright, let me try
Speaker 1: to see that. I'm not going a live let me
Speaker 1: tell you alright, alright, only for you man, listen. But
Speaker 1: when we go, would you it was a lot of alcoholic,
Speaker 1: A lot of alcohol is And I said exactly, but
Speaker 1: you enjoy yourself listen because I don't know if you know,
Speaker 1: but we we celebrate people's careers over here. You got
Speaker 1: a tip it when you do it. We celebrate people
Speaker 1: to do over here. And for you standing the test
Speaker 1: of time. A lot of people don't understand how hard
Speaker 1: that is. Like you know, I respect these brothers with
Speaker 1: these two year careers and one hit oneers and people.
Speaker 1: I respect them to the same way because they can
Speaker 1: feed their family. They can feed their family. But by dollar,
Speaker 1: Dolly g I'm not respect. People have been out there
Speaker 1: the years and they were trying to said you was
Speaker 1: one of the first people, Like I'm gonna be honest,
Speaker 1: you might have created love and hip hop. Now hit
Speaker 1: me out. I know everybody like, what the funk? Hit
Speaker 1: me out? Of anybody? You were the first rapper to
Speaker 1: fun with reality and make it cool. Do that seed
Speaker 1: kind of burped every other reality show after that for calls.
Speaker 1: I think what we did pimps because Will and um
Speaker 1: L L did it, but they didn't script this show.
Speaker 1: You this is non script correct, absolutely, so um I
Speaker 1: think you were like, yeah, so described to me because
Speaker 1: you know you exhibit y'all here the West Coast and
Speaker 1: these these people from MTV step to you or wasn't
Speaker 1: a production company that steps to you prior? So it
Speaker 1: was a production company. A gentleman named Rick Herbert's came
Speaker 1: to me so rich. Yeah, he came to me and
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I want to do this car
Speaker 1: show because I was getting my cars actually done at
Speaker 1: West Coast Customs. Whoa and so and so he and
Speaker 1: I was just sitting around cracking jokes, making people laughing.
Speaker 1: Ship and so he was like, you know, you'd be
Speaker 1: a great host. I was like, fuck you, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna you know, there's nothing else compared. Yeah, there's nothing
Speaker 1: compared to. So we literally we literally did the pilot
Speaker 1: and and somebody one of the one of the camera
Speaker 1: guys backyard. Uh, he had a friend at his We
Speaker 1: literally put an air freshener and put some new hub
Speaker 1: caps and watched the ship. That was like what we
Speaker 1: did to the car. And so you know, he came
Speaker 1: in and was like, oh, this is great. And I
Speaker 1: was just working with them and making jokes about him
Speaker 1: in his car and and so, uh, they took it
Speaker 1: to MTV. They bought ten episodes, uh, and they put
Speaker 1: us on at like eleven o'clock at night. The show
Speaker 1: came on and then it just took off out of
Speaker 1: the atmosphere and then we ended up being part of
Speaker 1: Light next to the Aston Kuttrol Show, the Pump Show.
Speaker 1: They packaged me with Punked and Bam uh and then
Speaker 1: it became yeah, and so that's when they really like
Speaker 1: became like this international account your money right now. It
Speaker 1: was seven seasons of that that that when they pulled
Speaker 1: you together with that, that's when you knew your tax
Speaker 1: bracket got different. No, it did not. It did not,
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna get into that because you know,
Speaker 1: you know it. It turned out to be, you know,
Speaker 1: a benefit of on my side anyway, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because you like the exposure and the way
Speaker 1: that I became a household name was it allowed me
Speaker 1: to go in and start doing films and start doing
Speaker 1: my own thing outside of what that is. Now. My
Speaker 1: Ride was the catalyst for all of the car shows
Speaker 1: that you see now. There was no other car show.
Speaker 1: It was like, I don't think the speech chatnel had
Speaker 1: even existed when we first came, so um, it was.
Speaker 1: It was a lot that was going on with that show.
Speaker 1: It first it started, like really, what people miss about
Speaker 1: piping My Ride is that it wasn't about me. It
Speaker 1: wasn't about the car. It wasn't even about the kid.
Speaker 1: That's about wish fulfillment. It was about somebody wish fulfillment,
Speaker 1: you know, like like people at home thinking that this
Speaker 1: could happen to me, you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 1: so all right, and so people you don't like Jerry
Speaker 1: Speaker was the opposite, like this is also this can happen.
Speaker 1: Everybody has said, you know, if you don't have a
Speaker 1: lot of money. Everybody has a shitty car. Everybody wishes
Speaker 1: they could make it look better. I don't have enough
Speaker 1: to get a new one, but I like what I have.
Speaker 1: And so, you know, once it got away from that
Speaker 1: and turned into okay, hold this bright can and look
Speaker 1: this way and then put the videos, you know, games
Speaker 1: up all the thing, I was like, where it's all
Speaker 1: these checks going, you know, and then they hand me
Speaker 1: my little my little fee for hosting, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And it was like, yo, man, alright, cool,
Speaker 1: so um, let me finish my thing. Because I'm a
Speaker 1: man of my word. Always complete what I what I started,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I always fulfill my going tracks.
Speaker 1: And so once it was done, it was done, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So um, I ended up going
Speaker 1: and doing films and and and really like focusing on
Speaker 1: my ship and that when I first did paid my ride,
Speaker 1: I was kind of like nobody was talking to me,
Speaker 1: like my peers and hip hop weren't didn't have an
Speaker 1: opinion at the time, you know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 1: because because because as you said, this is something that
Speaker 1: didn't exist before. So CATS was sitting back looking like,
Speaker 1: what is this nag doing what I'm saying? It's just
Speaker 1: gonna you know, so you can't high five unless you
Speaker 1: know you're gonna win and you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And so, um, I felt like the show was taken
Speaker 1: away my credibility of what I've had already done, you know.
Speaker 1: And so because people, you know, I was I was
Speaker 1: used to having cats like us walking up to me like,
Speaker 1: hey man, you know what I'm saying, my nigga, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But now I got soccer moms,
Speaker 1: and I sat, K, do you hear my records and
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about? And so and so then it
Speaker 1: was kind of like a tough thing for me because
Speaker 1: it would taking so much time. I wasn't able to tour,
Speaker 1: I wasn't able to record albums. I was you know,
Speaker 1: I was there film and film and film and filming.
Speaker 1: So I didn't have time to put out how how
Speaker 1: roughly like one season, how many weeks would it take?
Speaker 1: I We'll see, that's the thing. Um, it would be
Speaker 1: it's usually thirteen episodes in this perpien. But then somewhere
Speaker 1: in the contract and the fine print, it's like Oh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do season. I'm saying thirteen, B and C,
Speaker 1: and like, hey, hold on you extending the season is
Speaker 1: what I was up in my ship, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And so it was kind of like that's
Speaker 1: the game that the Tug Award that was happening up
Speaker 1: until they couldn't. So, like I hear most people would
Speaker 1: love a hip hop and they'll say, you know what, Um,
Speaker 1: I didn't make a lot of money, but I got
Speaker 1: the exposure and the exposure was worth it. Is that
Speaker 1: something that you you kind of relate to. That's what
Speaker 1: I say to make myself sleep better at night. But no,
Speaker 1: all jokes aside. Man, you know I love what my
Speaker 1: right I did. Dude, I can go around the fucking
Speaker 1: world and people recognize if they don't know me from
Speaker 1: my music, if they don't know me from my uh
Speaker 1: from my UM for my acting or whatever, then they
Speaker 1: know me from that. And I'll take you the one
Speaker 1: because as I'm matured, I figured out that that cue
Speaker 1: raining is what's gonna dictate what you can and can't do,
Speaker 1: because if you're putting assids in the seats, people recognize
Speaker 1: you face recognition, then you can work in this industry,
Speaker 1: you know, let space some louist for that guy. So
Speaker 1: what did it? Did it during the season of filment
Speaker 1: of Pepper? I'm so sorry, dude. Was it ever not
Speaker 1: being fun when like before you you knew about the
Speaker 1: business part of you. No, I mean, even even when
Speaker 1: the business was, was you know, not exciting? Um, I
Speaker 1: think the only thing that because I mean people always
Speaker 1: say you did some funked up ship to that car
Speaker 1: and Pip my ride or whatever it was, or people
Speaker 1: you know, like that the wild Ship. But I didn't
Speaker 1: do ship to the car. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: that I was, I was, I was in the beginning
Speaker 1: and at the end, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: never fixed that right, right, But but I was the
Speaker 1: face of the show. So so that ended up being
Speaker 1: all of my ship, you know what I'm saying, all
Speaker 1: of it, you know. But you know, there was this
Speaker 1: thing that that happened that kind of you know, if
Speaker 1: you remember, there was there was a switch of garages,
Speaker 1: you know, from West Coast Customs and it went over
Speaker 1: to a different garage, you know, And there was an
Speaker 1: instance where I bring that up because I was the
Speaker 1: face of the show. So one of the cars wasn't
Speaker 1: fixed correctly. And long story short, this kid was driving
Speaker 1: this vehicle I was supposed to be like damn their
Speaker 1: brand new and the steeringwell came off when he was
Speaker 1: you know, driving and ship he put it on the
Speaker 1: break and the ship swore to the side. He was
Speaker 1: able to get out of traffic. Right. So imagine if
Speaker 1: that ship would have killed him. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: would be the face of that too, you know, So
Speaker 1: be careful what you ally yourself with and what you
Speaker 1: you know it. You know, it may be huge, it
Speaker 1: may be great, but at the same time, you gotta
Speaker 1: be be careful of of of who you are, what
Speaker 1: you represent to that brand. How many other shows have
Speaker 1: tried to came at you and uh to replicate everybody
Speaker 1: every time and everybody you know, and then and then
Speaker 1: and then. The thing is is everybody wants to pitch
Speaker 1: these ideas, and everybody wants to, you know, um uh
Speaker 1: talk about this new It's not like painting my ride,
Speaker 1: but it's you're gonna be with the car. But but
Speaker 1: I mean it's like, wanta do we we? We had
Speaker 1: lightning in the bottle. It was great. I'm glad we
Speaker 1: were the first, and I'm gonna leave it there. Man,
Speaker 1: you don't you don't go backwards. You are you ever
Speaker 1: gonna do it reality TV again? At this point, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say no, Yeah, it wasn't because of the experience
Speaker 1: was bad or because it's just no. I just enjoyed
Speaker 1: doing scripted better. You know. I enjoyed being on the sets.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed learning. I'm starting to enjoy directing as well.
Speaker 1: You know. So I started doing, um, my own stuff,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I started directing my own
Speaker 1: films and my own shorts, and we were very proud
Speaker 1: of what'll be done. Let's make some nooy of that.
Speaker 1: Because I googled that, I got two different things right there.
Speaker 1: One set you born in Detroit, yes, and another said
Speaker 1: he was born in New Mexico. Yes, but you're born
Speaker 1: I know what it says on the internet, but let
Speaker 1: me let me cli. I was born in Detroit, Michigan,
Speaker 1: in September eighteenth, ninety four. Yeah. So, um, my mother
Speaker 1: passed away when I was nine, and my dad got remarried.
Speaker 1: Uh and his wife wanted to live in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
Speaker 1: So at nine, ten years old, I moved out there
Speaker 1: with my new family. Um, and then after I did
Speaker 1: like I did, I did, I did seven years. It
Speaker 1: felt like jail, but I was in said, I was
Speaker 1: in there for seven years in Albuquerque, and then I
Speaker 1: went to California. So there's a lot of people because
Speaker 1: I went to high school in Albuquerque or all of
Speaker 1: the high schools that got successfully kicked out of all
Speaker 1: of motherfucker's. But I went to Albuquerque. Um, like all
Speaker 1: the high schools got you know, in a bunch of trouble,
Speaker 1: had a lot of you know difficulty out there. I
Speaker 1: was angry that my mother had died. I was, you know,
Speaker 1: I was, I was, I was, you know, in this
Speaker 1: forcing this new family. My dad got made married like
Speaker 1: maybe two three months after my mom passed away. Uh
Speaker 1: and uh. And I just was in a really tough spot.
Speaker 1: And so when I went to California, I ended up,
Speaker 1: you know, going by myself. At seventeen. Absolutely I was
Speaker 1: selling crack. So I was serving and out there and
Speaker 1: it's a small town and you know, we was, you know,
Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen driving around and go BMW would go Daton's
Speaker 1: and you know, like it's like the cops knew exactly
Speaker 1: who we were. It's only five black people there at
Speaker 1: the time, so it was crazy. And so you know,
Speaker 1: there were some things. You know, there was a murder
Speaker 1: that happened. There was a whole bunch of ship in
Speaker 1: the street, and I was like, you know, um, I
Speaker 1: told my dad that at the time resident you know,
Speaker 1: my dad just passed away as well, you know, so
Speaker 1: uh I told my dad. I was like, if I
Speaker 1: don't get out of here, then I'm gonna die. So
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna go to California and see what
Speaker 1: I can do with this music. Um. And at the
Speaker 1: time I was, I was rapping, but it was kind
Speaker 1: of like it's it's like a hobby. I would I
Speaker 1: would go to like Ku and them and go wrapping
Speaker 1: a little the only rapp show they had, and it
Speaker 1: was like on the university campus. I was wrapping under
Speaker 1: Exhibit eight. And so I left the seventeen, went to
Speaker 1: California and ended up you know, just meeting up with
Speaker 1: three sixty, which was a production crew James Broadway, and
Speaker 1: then I got with King T. He introduced me to
Speaker 1: the alcoholics and so on. The yeah, like that that's
Speaker 1: how it was formed and and and um, so what
Speaker 1: made you start rapping? Because I loved it. Man. You know,
Speaker 1: my parents were very religious. They never let me listen
Speaker 1: to hip hop. UM, so I had to get it
Speaker 1: where I could. I used to, you know, have a
Speaker 1: little Sony Walkman that I scavengered up, and when I
Speaker 1: went to school, I would get tapes from my homies
Speaker 1: and I would listen to it there. Then I started
Speaker 1: taking it home and then they found the ship broke
Speaker 1: the ship every time they found some ship from hip hop, tape, CDs,
Speaker 1: anything ship, the early influences. But I bought everything. I
Speaker 1: bought everything from DJ Magic Mike, from from Miami. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the bass music. I listened to the Two Live Crew
Speaker 1: I listened to I listened to UM. I listened to
Speaker 1: rock Him, Big Daddy Came, I listened to UM, just Ice,
Speaker 1: I listened to All I Got. I remember listening to
Speaker 1: the Tommy Boy. Um. What do you think that that?
Speaker 1: That that first tape they came out with with the
Speaker 1: guys breaking on the front. Oh, I remember. I mean
Speaker 1: I listened to everything. I wasn't reaching a lo at
Speaker 1: the time because I just loved it. But I felt
Speaker 1: when I've got my hands on the d O C
Speaker 1: H C D. Yeah, the DC is my favorite rapper period.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, so um, you know I started listening
Speaker 1: to like that and then when they found them, they
Speaker 1: would just confiscate or break everything, and so I ended
Speaker 1: up writing my own brahms, my own brahms and yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know what I'm saying, well I am um
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah. Before all those cash, we used to
Speaker 1: all be in this club called Unity and so we
Speaker 1: that was where like the rappers were coming from. The
Speaker 1: project Blow was like another style of another side that
Speaker 1: was doing the same thing, you know, coming up, and
Speaker 1: so there was like this real, like real live, vibrant
Speaker 1: underground hip hop scene in Los Angeles. And so um,
Speaker 1: once Snoop went from Death Row over to UM Masterpiece
Speaker 1: like the No Limit, Um, you know, we had had interaction.
Speaker 1: I was cool with Snoop UM and he called me
Speaker 1: and he was like, yo, you know we we're working
Speaker 1: on this album. I want you to come get down.
Speaker 1: I think Dr dra gonna do to be Is it
Speaker 1: cool if you call you? It's like yeah, it's not
Speaker 1: please and so so um, as you said, it came
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. So so then UM, a couple of minutes
Speaker 1: later Drake called me. He telled me, you know, he
Speaker 1: had echo sound you want to come through you know
Speaker 1: see what you got. I think, I just I think
Speaker 1: the phone was still in the air, and when I
Speaker 1: was already out the door, I was already moving, and
Speaker 1: so I ended up going to the studio. Uh. It
Speaker 1: took me about fifteen minutes to write that, and then um,
Speaker 1: I laid it and then I shook his hand and
Speaker 1: I thank you for the opportunity. I didn't ask for
Speaker 1: the who I should sit in the invoice too. I
Speaker 1: didn't ask, you know what the publisher. And this year,
Speaker 1: I didn't ask what the split. I didn't give fun
Speaker 1: Thank you Dr Dre. I appreciate it. Yeah, he said
Speaker 1: it was for top Dog. Yeah for for for Snoop's album.
Speaker 1: Thank you for the opportunity. Boom. Uh. Like a week later,
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of weeks later, Snoop called meies
Speaker 1: like a nephew. You know, we're using that as a single.
Speaker 1: But I was like, my life is about to change,
Speaker 1: ensure enough from you know, from that that was like,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, as an underground cat, you know,
Speaker 1: being on MTV, you know, and and and being pushed
Speaker 1: across that platform at the time, it's huge. There was
Speaker 1: no you know, online ship that could really like pump
Speaker 1: it to where it was. It was like the video
Speaker 1: shows and the DJs were making this work. And so
Speaker 1: that was my first time really on that type of
Speaker 1: you know, top ten, top billboard, you know, all kinds
Speaker 1: of ship. And then Dre started being you know, interested
Speaker 1: in what I was doing, and so I never once
Speaker 1: asked Dr Dre to pay me for anything that we
Speaker 1: did together because I was already on Loud, I was
Speaker 1: already on Columbia. You know, it's like they should be
Speaker 1: paying you, you know what I'm saying. And so, um,
Speaker 1: then that opportunity led to uh me being they being
Speaker 1: invited to be on his record, you know, and then um,
Speaker 1: what was this in the first one that you're working
Speaker 1: on with him? Um that was the Chronic two thousand one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: uh and so every yeah yeah. So so you know
Speaker 1: he called me in to be you know, on the
Speaker 1: on the two thousand one, and then we ended up
Speaker 1: going on the Up and Smoke Tour and that that
Speaker 1: was it. Man, it was like it went up another level,
Speaker 1: you know, and man, that was that was a very
Speaker 1: pivotal point in my career and um, oh, how was
Speaker 1: it just being around that just the environment, because, like
Speaker 1: you said, you went on the tour. It was fucking crazy, man, crazy,
Speaker 1: this is this is this is hip hop and roll.
Speaker 1: This is like okay, dude. I went from looking at
Speaker 1: these guys and reading their reading the credits on their
Speaker 1: their projects to being in the studio and on tour
Speaker 1: buses and behind you know, stages and you know, in
Speaker 1: prayer circles and getting ready to go hit the stage
Speaker 1: and you know, like these this was a real like
Speaker 1: dream come true for me. It was crazy. It was
Speaker 1: that the upper spoke to. Yeah, it was crazy. It
Speaker 1: was crazy, dude. It was like the people that showed
Speaker 1: up to that tour, um, they saw a piece of
Speaker 1: history that I don't know it's ever gonna be repeated.
Speaker 1: You know. To have that many stars at that at
Speaker 1: that time on one bill and have no hiccups and
Speaker 1: get to it all forty forty shows and and and
Speaker 1: then get back and and really become friends and family
Speaker 1: and then continue on. That was incredible. Man. You know,
Speaker 1: I definitely cut my teeth on that tour. I had
Speaker 1: been on tours before, but nothing like that. You know. Now,
Speaker 1: one of fifties famous records. He said, spoken all that,
Speaker 1: did you do you think fifthy was gonna be as
Speaker 1: big as fifty years. I remember Eminem playing before a show.
Speaker 1: He called me in the room and he played kill Me.
Speaker 1: He played, he played fifties music, and it was like,
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna sign him. Yeah, California, No, he was,
Speaker 1: I think he was. He was on the road. He was,
Speaker 1: actually he was on up a smoke. Remember what he
Speaker 1: played you was one of the mix tapes. I think
Speaker 1: it was a mixtape. Yeah, it was the one where
Speaker 1: it's kind of the black and white cover and he
Speaker 1: has the he got the hat on the bulletproof vest. Well,
Speaker 1: he always has on the bulletproof but I think it
Speaker 1: was like one of his first, first first joints. And
Speaker 1: then I listened to it, I was like, oh, ship
Speaker 1: should be crazy because you can hear it in the
Speaker 1: music and now um at the music. I was amazed.
Speaker 1: But to see what he's done with not only his
Speaker 1: TV prey is uh and his production and it's just business.
Speaker 1: His his business and branding is and his trolling is
Speaker 1: right up there. That's part of the marketing services. But
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised that fifty is as big as he is.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Are you in the studio
Speaker 1: when he quoted that, he just he just shot me out. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think. I think Tracy, Tracy over at the Shady
Speaker 1: Camp actually is the first one that told me and
Speaker 1: he did it and I was like what and then
Speaker 1: you know, it's like they called me to the video
Speaker 1: and history. Let's make a look. Is this is this
Speaker 1: a type of ball time? I think it's this is
Speaker 1: this is a part of the show. It's a little weird,
Speaker 1: it's a little a great because we gotta listen. We
Speaker 1: celebrate your life, appreciate, thank you. Let me just tell
Speaker 1: you something. This is what I hate in the game.
Speaker 1: So many people want to celebrate you. If you're gone,
Speaker 1: you know, let's not go on what or something happened
Speaker 1: to you. People say how Greek this guy he is?
Speaker 1: And why I can't say that to you right now?
Speaker 1: Absolutely wise. And let's what I say our culture. And
Speaker 1: when I say our culture, I don't want it to
Speaker 1: be racial because it's not just black. And you know,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about our culture period, like m she searched
Speaker 1: he's white and we should be praising him he's got
Speaker 1: what we should be great, and I want to keep
Speaker 1: continuing to do that. Like I want our culture meeting
Speaker 1: hip hop. Let's let's let's pig each other up. For
Speaker 1: for instance, it's it's we've been through all of that.
Speaker 1: You know, heard this guy, heard this ship, We've done
Speaker 1: that already that let's go forward. Yeah, let's move forward.
Speaker 1: And I I, for one, I've seen I've seen your career.
Speaker 1: I've seen what was the album dropping ninety eight? Uh,
Speaker 1: there was at the Speed of Life in the forty
Speaker 1: days forty nights, and you know I dropped in like that.
Speaker 1: So I understand, you know, you know I see and
Speaker 1: and and it should be celebrated. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like hip hop were superheroes about. You know, I'm saying
Speaker 1: some of us don't wear a cake, some of us
Speaker 1: do that. Not a kid, yea, heroes don't wear a cap.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. What the fund is this? Yea?
Speaker 1: Looking to the What the fucking I see you're trying
Speaker 1: to slide this it on me? Right? Any of those
Speaker 1: it's called tag it's a drink Champions edition. Alright, sal
Speaker 1: ain't that bad? I think he's gonna say that it's
Speaker 1: the list, right. So on the Upper Sloop Tour, that's
Speaker 1: a certain part where you just take a bottle. You
Speaker 1: used to do for real, man, I used to do
Speaker 1: a lot of ships that you said, you that probably
Speaker 1: part of you say. I used to do a lot
Speaker 1: of ship that you know, it's not you know, good
Speaker 1: for me, And so I had to h really evaluate
Speaker 1: what was happening and kind of like, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's called getting old and maturing or
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, but I look at
Speaker 1: other people and I don't have to learn, you know,
Speaker 1: by doing the same thing. I can look at somebody
Speaker 1: and know like, oh I don't want to do that
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, or man, that didn't paying out the
Speaker 1: way they thought it was, and take that and use
Speaker 1: it in my my my navigation. So you know, I
Speaker 1: feel good about, you know, what I've done. I mean,
Speaker 1: have no regrets what I've done in hip hop. But
Speaker 1: I don't do none of that ship like I used to.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm running. I'm running, I'm running businesses, family,
Speaker 1: you know, I have things that are that are very
Speaker 1: very important to me, and so I know what that
Speaker 1: feels like, I know what it feels like to have
Speaker 1: unlimited alcohol. I know what it feels like to be
Speaker 1: able to roll pounds of weed all day every day.
Speaker 1: I know what that feels like. But I've never had
Speaker 1: a billion dollars, you know what I'm saying. I've never
Speaker 1: had hundreds of millions of dollars um. Not that, not
Speaker 1: that even material is the is the goal. It's like,
Speaker 1: how hard can I push my success? How hard can
Speaker 1: I get to where I want to go so I
Speaker 1: can turn around to help the people I want to
Speaker 1: help instead of seeing everybody get help, you know, and
Speaker 1: and and and pull their other homeboys out and be
Speaker 1: able to laugh at the cats that that ain't in
Speaker 1: their click. I want to take care of my people
Speaker 1: the same way, you know. So that's what that's what
Speaker 1: motivates me to become more and to not listen to
Speaker 1: the people that have negative ships to say. But have
Speaker 1: you know that I take care of people that that
Speaker 1: that want to be in my circle, you know, And
Speaker 1: that's easier than dealing with people that ain't and ever
Speaker 1: gonna be convinced, you know? Now? You know what I
Speaker 1: always say, I say old when you celebrate it and
Speaker 1: not tolerate. Yeah exactly. Hell yeah, this is where people
Speaker 1: want wanted you to be there. Like a lot of us,
Speaker 1: we be we want to be accepted in places we
Speaker 1: shouldn't even care. Yeah yeah, I don't care, because it
Speaker 1: may be it may be some light over there that
Speaker 1: you think somebody else is getting in. You admire the
Speaker 1: sparkly ship or whatever. But oh man, the people that
Speaker 1: I've expected to be in my corner and be part
Speaker 1: of my success never were. It was the people that
Speaker 1: you know, we're sitting there with me when it wasn't glamorous,
Speaker 1: and then you can see the excitement when something happened
Speaker 1: for me, even if it wasn't that big, if if
Speaker 1: it was just something like they was genuine. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that. So that's where I'm at with it. Man.
Speaker 1: I I used to want to be I want to
Speaker 1: be accepted. I want to be fitting. I want to
Speaker 1: I want to be around these guys. I want to
Speaker 1: be in this circle. I don't give a funk about
Speaker 1: that ship. You know what I'm saying, because it means
Speaker 1: nothing because even when you get there, you find out
Speaker 1: that the niggas don't like each other either. Know, it's
Speaker 1: like the side. I thought you guys were teamed, but
Speaker 1: they don't work like that, you know, and so you
Speaker 1: better off making the people. That's what you now, the people,
Speaker 1: that's what you then, you know? Do you just wait?
Speaker 1: Hold on? Sorry? Do you still wrote with the producer
Speaker 1: that did Paparazzi DJ at one point? No? They they
Speaker 1: I did the track for proper Rozzi. He's l a producer. UM,
Speaker 1: I see him, but we haven't done any music together.
Speaker 1: Do you remember the first time you came to Miami,
Speaker 1: or at least the first time? I thinking listen, he remembers.
Speaker 1: I don't remember the first time, probably going through a lot,
Speaker 1: but what happened here? He can't he can't to win with. Actually,
Speaker 1: before when it was popping, it was the hood it
Speaker 1: was hood Stock. Paparazzi was out just release. Yes, and
Speaker 1: we saw you, my crew saw you, and we recognize
Speaker 1: you and you were just hyped to be recognized because
Speaker 1: you just had a vinyl single years out like that.
Speaker 1: And then you said I need to be in Winwood
Speaker 1: at this spot called hood Stock. We were in the beach.
Speaker 1: It was how can I be down? Yes? Uh? And
Speaker 1: you told me to do that was with you was
Speaker 1: either DJ or the producer of Paparazzi, and I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll take you, Okay, I don't know, let's go at
Speaker 1: my pathfinder and you didn't want. We didn't have room
Speaker 1: because I had my crew be path find my thing too.
Speaker 1: And then so this boy wouldn't sit in the back
Speaker 1: of the trunk because we wasn't my crew. We you know,
Speaker 1: we in our seats already. But he said, I'll jump
Speaker 1: in the luggage area, no problem. And I just remember
Speaker 1: him with he had an Echo canteen with jin and
Speaker 1: juice in it. And we passed up. We pulled up,
Speaker 1: we pulled up to the hood stock. We got to
Speaker 1: the wrong area. So it's just a fence. We just
Speaker 1: echo to Mark Echo Yeah. And MLP was performing on
Speaker 1: stage with Heather be And then we start climbing because
Speaker 1: there was no way to get into it. We start
Speaker 1: climbing a fence. I don't know none of this. I'm
Speaker 1: that kick at this point and were locally people They're like,
Speaker 1: you know, that's crazy. Climbers and existed went on. There
Speaker 1: was some chaos on the show. I just said, just
Speaker 1: a crazy man. Damn the can about to bring it
Speaker 1: up and what the fun he was wading out. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, man, like I'm saying man, we had a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. Man, we had a lot of fun
Speaker 1: with that. We we did not let off the gas whatsoever,
Speaker 1: you know, and we have fun with it. Man. But
Speaker 1: I think, you know, me looking back at that time
Speaker 1: and seeing I did exactly what the funk I was
Speaker 1: supposed to do. I was young, I was a teenager.
Speaker 1: I was you know, I had a record out. You know,
Speaker 1: I had come from the most shittiest ship show you
Speaker 1: can think of, and I was having fun, man, And
Speaker 1: I just think I'm just thankful for the experience. I've
Speaker 1: had a thankful you know, for people that that but
Speaker 1: understand me and and have those members can remember that
Speaker 1: ship for me because God knows. But I'm glad. Man.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, we didn't have social media back then.
Speaker 1: Like now you can turn on your cell phone and
Speaker 1: you can record the memories that you know it's gonna
Speaker 1: mean something other people are gonna see it. But we
Speaker 1: have that up here. Man. It's like we got pictures
Speaker 1: here and there of moments, but that that time, that energy,
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, it feels really special to me. Special,
Speaker 1: special now two thousand Dr Dre exactly produced album. Now
Speaker 1: other people get a beat from Dr Dre, you might
Speaker 1: get a purse something. I'm an athlete, not when people
Speaker 1: get saying right right, and not not on interscope or aftermath.
Speaker 1: If you're not on after math, you did this on loud.
Speaker 1: How did you do you had no actually actually, actually
Speaker 1: that question takes us back to the top of the conversation.
Speaker 1: After we had did what you see is what you get.
Speaker 1: Louds say go back and make another album. They didn't
Speaker 1: want to film another video, and bitch, please hadn't come
Speaker 1: out yet. Um, and oh no, it had come out,
Speaker 1: and that's why I got so mad. Okay, so I
Speaker 1: got extremely pissed, and so Steve Rifkin was, you know, saying,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah it was good, but now imagine if
Speaker 1: you come out with more music. I was like, you
Speaker 1: didn't even promote the music that we just put out. So, um,
Speaker 1: I got pissed, and I just left on tour and
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do an album. I just refused
Speaker 1: to budget. And so Steve Ripkin shout out Steve Ripke,
Speaker 1: and I love you, man, but I'm just telling the truth,
Speaker 1: you know, Steve you know. Uh, Steve tried to show
Speaker 1: up to the first Up and Smoke show and was
Speaker 1: turned away at the gate because uh they were and
Speaker 1: they asked me, and I felt like, why should you
Speaker 1: be able to benefit off something that you had nothing
Speaker 1: to do with? This relationship that I built with Dr
Speaker 1: Dre and Snoop and all these guys is on my accord.
Speaker 1: And so then it was like, UM, you know, okay,
Speaker 1: so I'm just gonna go. And even though it would
Speaker 1: be so opportune for me to record an album, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I know you you're not gonna
Speaker 1: do right by it, you know, So I just went
Speaker 1: and started working. Everybody thought it was on Aftermath. Everybody
Speaker 1: thought I was on Interscope. Uh. And so then, um,
Speaker 1: ray knew what I was going through, you know. Uh,
Speaker 1: but that's about it. And so afterwards, um uh at
Speaker 1: the end of the like halfway midway through the tour,
Speaker 1: Dre and Um and Jimmy called Steve in and asked, Okay,
Speaker 1: so we love exhibit, we love what's going on with
Speaker 1: his career, and we love you know, working with him.
Speaker 1: We know you know you you brought him to this point.
Speaker 1: How can we get him over here with us to
Speaker 1: you know, be with us. And Steve said he wrote
Speaker 1: a number on a piece of paper that Jimmy Ivan
Speaker 1: was like really, so it kind of combossed it and
Speaker 1: I was I was I felt like Steve was trying
Speaker 1: to fuck my ship up, you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 1: and I was like, yo, man, um, then he's like
Speaker 1: you like my son. You know I started with you,
Speaker 1: We're gonna do this thing together. I was like, bro,
Speaker 1: you don't even want to film a video where we
Speaker 1: had the number one ship across all I hop, like,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? So I was at odds
Speaker 1: with the label and so um. Then when we finished
Speaker 1: the tour, uh, he was like, let's go do a record,
Speaker 1: Let's do this whatever. I was like, yeah, Steve's like
Speaker 1: doing what. I was like, Um, I'm only gonna do
Speaker 1: it if you take care of Dr Dre and Dr
Speaker 1: Dre was like, you're gonna pay me this and then
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: then we're gonna we're gonna get it done. You know.
Speaker 1: But I don't want this money to come from exist,
Speaker 1: but I wanted to come from you, said Jesus, and
Speaker 1: that's why the record is ours. You know, Dre. Dre
Speaker 1: has always been one hundred thousand percent with me, and
Speaker 1: I will never say anything derogatory or negative about him.
Speaker 1: I will always be by his side. I was always
Speaker 1: bride with him. You know what I'm saying, that's that's
Speaker 1: my nigger. He's my friend. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: He's my mentor. He made. He made a lot of
Speaker 1: things happen in my career that I never thought would happen.
Speaker 1: So you know, and and and we still to this day.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, have a report that you know,
Speaker 1: we can sit in the room and topic just like this.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm some real ship and all you involved
Speaker 1: with the pharmacy? Is that true? Right now? We're in
Speaker 1: a hiatus. I think everybody has other stuff to do. Um.
Speaker 1: I think the I think the Anderson Pack program, and
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, it's definitely doing what it
Speaker 1: has to do. Congratulations to Andy. You know he over there,
Speaker 1: he killed it him in Noble Yeah. I love his
Speaker 1: I love his new record. Uh and and so that's
Speaker 1: what they're doing. Beach One is still going strong, shout
Speaker 1: and saying low. Uh, you know Eddie and and and
Speaker 1: Johnny all the people over there at the pharmacy. So
Speaker 1: right now, if they bring it back on the air,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna be right there. Okay, man, So
Speaker 1: what what what? What? What? What was it wrong? I
Speaker 1: produced the whole shows, they said, was the executive. God.
Speaker 1: Now I'm so, um, let me ask you, so, let's
Speaker 1: get let's go into California for a little bit. Because
Speaker 1: if you're in New York, you gotta be involved with uh,
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta be like a five center. You're
Speaker 1: gonna be a Muslim. You know what I'm saying. Nowadays,
Speaker 1: you gotta be a blood or crypt at all started
Speaker 1: from California gang rules, you know, um, which is crazy
Speaker 1: because it's like, you know, hip hop, Like we gave
Speaker 1: y'all hip hop, and y'all gave us gang culture. Now
Speaker 1: now it's real gang cloking, Like it's actually places where
Speaker 1: you go and you could actually tell that this is
Speaker 1: all all blood section and this is all a crypt
Speaker 1: section from the same thing that I used to go
Speaker 1: to your neighborhood. You see, it wasn't there before. I'm
Speaker 1: not not in New York, not in New York, not
Speaker 1: in New York. So what what what? What? What do
Speaker 1: you think about that? Like, what's your opinion? I think,
Speaker 1: how gang good? You just explode everywhere. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: the dynamics of game banging in Los Angeles are very complex. Um.
Speaker 1: I came in when I was a teenager. Um, I
Speaker 1: hang around a lot of crips. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I have a lot of blood friends, but mostly I
Speaker 1: hang out with a lot of crips. And um, I
Speaker 1: see how I go outfit like you. But I don't
Speaker 1: think you ever had a red outfit, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: but I mean no, no, you good? Yeah, but you
Speaker 1: know I never, I never, you know, claimed the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I hung out with a
Speaker 1: lot of cats and Venice Venice Shoreline is you know,
Speaker 1: That's why I was hanging out. But you know, coming
Speaker 1: from where I was coming from and being around that
Speaker 1: because I was there was there was crips that will
Speaker 1: come to Albuquerque to get weight, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: from California because it's right there next to the border,
Speaker 1: right and so I would be able to come to
Speaker 1: l A and already having affiliation with people that I
Speaker 1: met doing that, and so that's when I got to
Speaker 1: l A. I was you know, I was embraced by
Speaker 1: these cats and you know, they had an apartment and
Speaker 1: then you know, I ended up you know, that's where
Speaker 1: I met my my first son's mother, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and so um, from there it was it
Speaker 1: was like I wanted to be all in. It was like, nah,
Speaker 1: you're going to do this music ship because you're good
Speaker 1: at it. So you can't say no way with us.
Speaker 1: You can't run no missions with us. You can't do
Speaker 1: all that ship and then show me what you wrote today,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so that's kind of
Speaker 1: like how I viewed it, and that's how I saw it,
Speaker 1: and that's my my my view of where it was now.
Speaker 1: When it started traveling, there were no bloods and crypts
Speaker 1: in New York. When first one to New York, there
Speaker 1: were no neighborhoods like that. There wasn't no niggas that
Speaker 1: even knew. They thought it was silly. They usually get
Speaker 1: mad at us, even on records, like I remember, like,
Speaker 1: you know, it was like a thing to work about.
Speaker 1: How whack the West Coast niggas was for cursing and
Speaker 1: gang banging and black black sheet, Black Sheet, listen to
Speaker 1: black Sheet. What I'm saying that they had like the
Speaker 1: skit where it's like a real like fucking gang bang
Speaker 1: in his wag calling bitches and the bitches is whack.
Speaker 1: They could have meant that about New York because remember
Speaker 1: we had zood re lation in New York. It probably
Speaker 1: wasn't as powerful as Bloods and crypt but it was
Speaker 1: considered the gang we have five, so it was more
Speaker 1: about that West Coast. Let me just just say that, No,
Speaker 1: I understood, understood. Now, I'm not taking the skit. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, I'm just saying that he's talking
Speaker 1: about that origin. He talk about the origins too bread.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna shut up. No. But but but then
Speaker 1: you know, then when it first started, I gotta admit, man,
Speaker 1: it just like you gotta be kidding me. You can't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't have bloods and cribs in New York. It's
Speaker 1: just not supposed to happen. Ain't supposed to happen. But
Speaker 1: then as you know, because it's not, that's like saying,
Speaker 1: you know, I know, I know, but befollow me. So
Speaker 1: in that world, as that world operates, it's casts coming
Speaker 1: from l A to New York and they're going into
Speaker 1: the jail system and they and they and they surround
Speaker 1: it and they and they spread the world, and the
Speaker 1: word gets spread, and now it's neighborhoods in New York
Speaker 1: because who's to tell this kid from brook that went
Speaker 1: to jail and bang the ship in jail that he
Speaker 1: can't come outside and do it even though he never
Speaker 1: stepped foot in Los Angeles, and except that he's actually
Speaker 1: claiming right like hell, at this point, it would be
Speaker 1: a great nut crip in New York. You said great
Speaker 1: nun like grape streets, great grape streets. You said a
Speaker 1: great grape nut. What I mean, like a great great street.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So if a person bang
Speaker 1: Grape Street and his phone, uh Harlem, it's kind of
Speaker 1: crazy because he's that's not where they're from. The fall
Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes they sometimes sometimes it is because they followed
Speaker 1: the O G set, you understand. So they'll say, so,
Speaker 1: I don't know how it works, like do to put
Speaker 1: them on? And you know, I'm just saying, let's suppose, yeah,
Speaker 1: the guy who put them on it's from a certain
Speaker 1: set and that's set, it's from California. They'll they'll claim
Speaker 1: that set and still being on. I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know how the transfer program works, but your games
Speaker 1: except accept absolutely and and why wouldn't they, but you know,
Speaker 1: and some guys who was like, you know that, ain't
Speaker 1: that ain't real game banging because you know, you look
Speaker 1: at the way the the Kachi Kid was represented, you know,
Speaker 1: it offended a lot of real you know that moves
Speaker 1: back at the crib and the fact that there was
Speaker 1: no i mean yeah, paying homage to to what it
Speaker 1: really represented because it's casted you know that they really
Speaker 1: died for that ship, you know, and yeah yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: and so so to make a mockery of it and
Speaker 1: become like it's a it's you know, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: not tell you that. Yeah yeah, yeah, who hate on?
Speaker 1: I ain't talking about you know, that's just the example
Speaker 1: that you look at y G and you look at
Speaker 1: how you don't even get kids reputable, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and you really bang that. So I'm never
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, like to change it up a little bit,
Speaker 1: but I've never seen someone wreck their selves in front
Speaker 1: of like the audience like that, Yeah, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: What do you mean? But like what what what? What?
Speaker 1: What happened with six nine? Like what happened with him?
Speaker 1: Like it was one plenty of times everyone, you have
Speaker 1: fifteen examples of when you do it like this, this
Speaker 1: is exactly where it leads to, and he paid attention
Speaker 1: to none of that, like what Joe told him, This
Speaker 1: is exactly what No. But I think that's I think
Speaker 1: it's different. I think we've had tragedy and hip hop before.
Speaker 1: I think we've seen like like like like like super
Speaker 1: super fucked up ship that's happened in hip pop. But
Speaker 1: I think what's different about him is that we live
Speaker 1: in this time where everything is recorded, everything is Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like he filmed himself into the thing. And that's
Speaker 1: the dangerous part. It's like everything ain't supposed to be,
Speaker 1: you know, displayed to the public, especially if you live
Speaker 1: in in that world. And I think that we're living
Speaker 1: in the age now where all of that is out
Speaker 1: the window. I mean, you see somebody struggling, you know.
Speaker 1: And the new footage, the new footage TMZ TMZ is
Speaker 1: the worst, by the way, I like Harvey a little bit,
Speaker 1: but the ship that he just put out. Listen, they
Speaker 1: had some balance of six nine filming his friend filming
Speaker 1: somebody robbing the ship, and then they had someone filming him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then they just put it out and they just
Speaker 1: and how does the FBI not say, oh, I'm gotta
Speaker 1: use this in all investigations it Why is it no
Speaker 1: one saying TMZ is the snitch. No one says that.
Speaker 1: No one says TMZ is the actual rat m. They
Speaker 1: don't want to outgate. They're grabbing these funny said, they're
Speaker 1: throwing these people out there. And no, no one plays
Speaker 1: TMZ for nothing because why there their civilians. I don't
Speaker 1: think you're civilian. If you're digging into game ship, you
Speaker 1: should be accountant, just like a game. Oh I went
Speaker 1: to no one, I'm saying this is keeping real. TMZ
Speaker 1: is the new fat, TIMS is a new fat people
Speaker 1: rather go to TMZ and get paid from TMZ. How
Speaker 1: didn't name anonymous like you think you can paying for that?
Speaker 1: Funny to say, Oh, I mean TMZ, I'm assuming they're
Speaker 1: paying you. It's just bad new seals with them. Do
Speaker 1: they have a footage of two people shooting at the
Speaker 1: back of au and the cameras movement and the cameras moving. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not a stationary camera. The cameras following the ship.
Speaker 1: You know what's going on? I don't know, but I
Speaker 1: think they're just recording some wild ship and just so
Speaker 1: happy to beat them. You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: ever thought that, well, we'll be our own paparazzi, because
Speaker 1: that's that's essentially what's happening right now. People, people not
Speaker 1: even being followed. Yeah, you're setting out your own dumb
Speaker 1: foot this to yourself. Yeah, and then out and they
Speaker 1: say they snihing you sent this ship the world so
Speaker 1: exactly right. No, I think that we come from an
Speaker 1: age where, remember, it wasn't cool to do commercials. It
Speaker 1: wasn't cool to be associated with a brand. It was
Speaker 1: like you were selling out, you're selling you was selling out.
Speaker 1: You're selling out you you know. But then we'll take
Speaker 1: this Saint Odds commercially and they left them back again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: first I think, but it was it was you know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't cool back then. But now fast forward, you know,
Speaker 1: every all said, everybody talks about is being a brand.
Speaker 1: I want to be on some screen time and what
Speaker 1: it is, you know what I'm saying, so so so
Speaker 1: it's just wild to see how things change. I think
Speaker 1: there's a negative in the positive that comes with that.
Speaker 1: I think that we um have the opportunity to cut
Speaker 1: out the middleman and we are able to create our
Speaker 1: own revenue streams. But on the side, the negative side,
Speaker 1: I think that some of us aren't ready to be
Speaker 1: on camera yet because it brings out the worst and
Speaker 1: the most ugliest side of us that are sometimes portrayed,
Speaker 1: and then it becomes more fuel to the fire for
Speaker 1: the people that hate us. But this like like like
Speaker 1: want to be instant famous, everybody you want to be famous? First,
Speaker 1: wasn't Super had oh oh ship and he took it
Speaker 1: somewhere else. I'm sorry I keep music keeping. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying because because it's Super No, I'm just saying no, no,
Speaker 1: I don't have no beef. I don't think I've ever
Speaker 1: met her. To tell the truth, people think that's not me.
Speaker 1: That was Jada kiss line, super bad, super bad, It's
Speaker 1: not my line. Thanks for clearing up. Definitely needed to
Speaker 1: clear her life. But but what I'm saying is she
Speaker 1: became famous for you know, a certainty, but people didn't
Speaker 1: know you know what I'm saying, And then it's all
Speaker 1: these other people who But she said that before social
Speaker 1: media though, Yeah, but that tripled down to it. That
Speaker 1: actually made that's a part of it. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say. It's like my dog Hecklers, He's said the line.
Speaker 1: He's like, there's no more fans of the music anymore
Speaker 1: because the fans themselves are starting out because of social media.
Speaker 1: They themselves believe the artists. They want the views and clicks, right,
Speaker 1: So why I ain't gonna be your fan? Now they're
Speaker 1: your peer? Yeah, exactly, So everybody's star exactly. You just
Speaker 1: happened to be a little further follows yea, yeah exact. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like everybody has their own goal, like like like your
Speaker 1: goal might be you know what, we get two hundred
Speaker 1: likes today, and I'm the man. You win up. You
Speaker 1: get two hundred likes like they ain't got You're going outside,
Speaker 1: you getting you know what I mean, your little over brand.
Speaker 1: You're like, yo, my dude. They be like, yeah, anything good,
Speaker 1: I got my two hunds. Yeah, and now that's get
Speaker 1: sense of accomplishment. And now that's why the music business
Speaker 1: is taking me because no one wants to buy you. Right,
Speaker 1: you can buy my own. You're like, damn, everybody wants
Speaker 1: to be the dealer. Who is the clients? It's not music,
Speaker 1: it's just content. Now it's just stream trolley. There's the
Speaker 1: crazy ship going on, like Charlie met when we went
Speaker 1: to Philly. Charlie met some chick in the street and
Speaker 1: she looked at how many followers he had to see
Speaker 1: if she wanted to talk to him. Charlie, but that's
Speaker 1: all wait a minute, story again, said he's trying to
Speaker 1: use social media to connect, Like, yo, let's exchange whatever.
Speaker 1: What's your I G B? Because I understand now that's
Speaker 1: people to say what it was. There was no phone number.
Speaker 1: He wanted to do the face the Facebook of the Instagram.
Speaker 1: And then she looked at his father like cool, like that,
Speaker 1: whoa wut? She had more followers, asking how many followers?
Speaker 1: They asked how many followers you got? I was the
Speaker 1: first time I've seen that, but I can imagine it
Speaker 1: makes sense to me. I'm like about the game, man.
Speaker 1: I feel sorry for the new generation. Man, it's terrible. Sorry,
Speaker 1: So you know you haven't been you haven't been disgusted
Speaker 1: about the hip hop game to do him up, you know,
Speaker 1: whatever point you want to you know what I'm talking
Speaker 1: about the new hip hop be political about. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say disgusted. Man, I just don't listen to it, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like at the point that I am,
Speaker 1: when I go digging and looking through hip hop right now,
Speaker 1: you know, I find myself kind of like I don't
Speaker 1: understand where they're going. I just want to be I
Speaker 1: want to be brought up to speed when they get there.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like like I want to
Speaker 1: see the best come out of this, you know. And
Speaker 1: so because I love hip hop. You know, there's been
Speaker 1: the dirt ship when we were you known first coming
Speaker 1: out too, and so now it's kind of like there's
Speaker 1: so much of it. I think of the hip hop
Speaker 1: hip hop, there's there's more. Like you said, we're just
Speaker 1: talking about bouncing off everybody being an artist now, everybody
Speaker 1: with a laptop in the phone right now, I can
Speaker 1: put some content out. So I the ship that pops, like,
Speaker 1: I'll wait for that and then I look at it
Speaker 1: and I'll be like, I wonder why they like that?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like, okay, well, let me see.
Speaker 1: I try to find an upside in it. And when
Speaker 1: I can't find the upside, then I just put it down.
Speaker 1: You know. I listened to a lot of satellite radio.
Speaker 1: I listened to I try not to stay um like stagnant.
Speaker 1: I want to be, you know, up to day to
Speaker 1: figure out what's going on, like Blue Face and listen
Speaker 1: to that. And then I listened to Then I listened
Speaker 1: to like Jie Parrico. Then I listened to you know,
Speaker 1: like I listened to everything that's kind of like what
Speaker 1: everybody is looking at. I'll peek at it and see
Speaker 1: if they if they there yet, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But then I look at you know, lyricists, and I'll
Speaker 1: look you know. I listened to static, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's Graham, Jones and Cats, and see what
Speaker 1: they on. And then I, you know, because the l A.
Speaker 1: D J's, you know, um, you know, the big radio station,
Speaker 1: they just kind of play the static. They play that
Speaker 1: on safety. They'd be in the que club or the
Speaker 1: White Boy could yeah, yeah, because they bring back the
Speaker 1: Baker Boys of the radio in l A. Man, I
Speaker 1: can't I wish Man, I wish man. I mean it's
Speaker 1: it's it's different cats out there that's trying to push
Speaker 1: the culture. Man. But you know, I think, Um, I
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, I'm still looking for I'm a lyricist.
Speaker 1: I love I love that about hip hop. I love
Speaker 1: when I can see a picture or feel a vibe
Speaker 1: or know what somebody is at and not even be
Speaker 1: there because of what they're saying. You know, I like
Speaker 1: being taken on a journey, you know, so, um, if
Speaker 1: that don't happen, then I'm not attracted to it. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm said. I get it. I understand, like,
Speaker 1: you know, there's a trapp and then there's you know,
Speaker 1: there's people like that vibe, and then there's people that
Speaker 1: just like the beat and don't give a funk about
Speaker 1: the lyrics, all of these different aspects, and then that
Speaker 1: was it's wrapped song categories in the Grammys. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Because that's the thing. So it's like
Speaker 1: I see it evolving. I'm just waiting until he gets
Speaker 1: to it is better stay God, damn, let's pretty crook
Speaker 1: it eye deserves look like because we call you crooked Eye,
Speaker 1: and I know you changed. The kid crooked, can't crook it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it. That doesn't matter to you. Now let me
Speaker 1: ask you. Now I'm looking at you. Spoken us a god,
Speaker 1: a guy from l A spoke us of guards always think.
Speaker 1: So I think on one thing and I need to
Speaker 1: ask both of guys, two kids of the West Coast.
Speaker 1: Did should make the West Coast better? L A beller All.
Speaker 1: I mean, it depends on how you look at it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like he definitely put on
Speaker 1: for this for the coast. You know, he was well
Speaker 1: established West Coast label that's going down in history. So
Speaker 1: if you feel like that's something, then that's positive. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He brought a lot of bloods
Speaker 1: and crips together, you know what I mean he did.
Speaker 1: You know, he did a lot of good things to
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like he would rebuild nurseries
Speaker 1: that burned down, or you know, every every year he
Speaker 1: had a Mother's Day feast and Beverly Hills where he
Speaker 1: go to the hood and pick up all the mothers,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and taking the Beverly Hills
Speaker 1: buying something nice to eat, and you know kids that
Speaker 1: haven't seen their father's you know what I mean. Incarcerated,
Speaker 1: he would charter busses on Father's Day and send the
Speaker 1: kids out to go see their pomps and all that.
Speaker 1: Like he did a lot of things, man. But as
Speaker 1: far as for hip hop, I just think I would
Speaker 1: I'd like to judge somebody about how they treat me.
Speaker 1: And when I was on death row, I was treated
Speaker 1: with treating. Will you know what I'm saying? I was
Speaker 1: treated well. So I ain't got nothing about to say.
Speaker 1: That's real, that's real. Um, you have you have a thought?
Speaker 1: Uh all the West Coast b where it's at right now?
Speaker 1: Like you know, we got we got game out there,
Speaker 1: we got the forty, we got you two guys never
Speaker 1: see um you thought you thought the West Coasts were
Speaker 1: maintained as as you know what I'm saying, because West
Speaker 1: Coast is his own planet exactly. You know, it's like,
Speaker 1: you know a good thing about y'all you can go
Speaker 1: can go just the l A. Yeah, I'm but no, No,
Speaker 1: it's not even about record sales. It's about the status
Speaker 1: and the respect that people have for each other. And
Speaker 1: and because you said it's game culture, I mean when
Speaker 1: you got legendary ship. You still people that that recognize
Speaker 1: and love Rodeo and Joe Cooley. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: There's like once you hit that status, like we have
Speaker 1: concerts in l A where you see rappers that you
Speaker 1: know maybe been on you know, like recently, and then
Speaker 1: you got casts that can come back from as far
Speaker 1: as twenty years ago and still have the same crowd.
Speaker 1: To me, but it's like it's like people respect that
Speaker 1: and you put off for the W And that's what
Speaker 1: it's about, because the rest of the world ain't really
Speaker 1: putting on for the W. We got pockets and support.
Speaker 1: But I mean when when when and when everybody loved
Speaker 1: the West Coast? Everybody loved the West Coast, but then
Speaker 1: it moved and went to the south. From when it
Speaker 1: goes back in, it moves around, you know what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 1: but on the West, I mean, we always celebrate the West,
Speaker 1: you know, but I expect that now do you think
Speaker 1: Joe Button's will be where he was at? If? Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, did you ever see this coming? Like because
Speaker 1: because didn't it wasn't you and joe y'all got cool
Speaker 1: because you're sparring lyrically like a little bit. I mean,
Speaker 1: me and Joe, Um, we was as sparring him and
Speaker 1: Royce was sparring, you know what I'm saying. And Royce
Speaker 1: was sparring back and forth. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Joe hit this kid. Nino blessed and asked him if
Speaker 1: I could turn the record around for him in like
Speaker 1: twenty four hours. So you know, Nino was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, so he sent me the record I got
Speaker 1: on the record. The record was called Slarterhouse and that's
Speaker 1: the how you know slarter House started. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: produced by my man back here. You know, you know
Speaker 1: I scream, you know it's partly your fault too, man,
Speaker 1: Snarterhouse Man, I didn't know that's real. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: did I know that he would be where he is
Speaker 1: as far as media, Joe, Yeah, I see you. I'll
Speaker 1: teach you to all fitters. Let me tell you the
Speaker 1: way I'm gone with it. I see you do a
Speaker 1: blog where I don't know if it's called a blog
Speaker 1: or whatever. I just see your addressing it where you didn't.
Speaker 1: You didn't agree with his opinion of eminence, right, And
Speaker 1: I felt you because sometimes even if that's how you fail,
Speaker 1: shut the funk up, like like, I'm not saying you know,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying, like, if you're my brother, and you're
Speaker 1: my brother, sometimes my opinion of you, even if it's bad,
Speaker 1: that should be between me and ye direct to the Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're accurate. I mean, I just felt like his approach
Speaker 1: was wrong. Like, you know, if you don't like something, yo,
Speaker 1: it's not for me. I don't like it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Cool, that's the homie. You know this
Speaker 1: ain't for me. But when you say something is trash,
Speaker 1: you shoot on Paul Rosenberg's rollout, you do you know
Speaker 1: you're taking it a little further. And then I know
Speaker 1: the backstory. I know that there were some issues that
Speaker 1: you felt against the label. You're not giving a fair
Speaker 1: critique now because now you've got malice behind what you said.
Speaker 1: It's personal. And then my whole thing was like listen, man,
Speaker 1: just keep it abut you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: it eventually it came out where He's like, I felt
Speaker 1: like I was better than them for ten years, this,
Speaker 1: this and that, and they took me off this record. Eventually,
Speaker 1: can we address that? I mean, we could address anything.
Speaker 1: I'm on the Champs. Maybe yes, I like Joe Buttons.
Speaker 1: I like a muss person, I like a muzzle artists.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't not show up that statement.
Speaker 1: I mean, for he says, he didn't say that. I
Speaker 1: mean every MC is supposed to feel like they be.
Speaker 1: So I give you that much space. What you ever saying,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying said, But I now that
Speaker 1: you said that, I think you got to back it
Speaker 1: up with more than just a statement, because because m
Speaker 1: came at you where you at Joe, you said you
Speaker 1: was better than for the past ten years. He gave
Speaker 1: you a few bars and you can't say your retirement
Speaker 1: it's just you gotta all bets are off. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: gotta back it up. Now. You just said this, so
Speaker 1: you know if you don't back it up, I don't
Speaker 1: think that you even believe that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: This is very where is Rory? I was here, hold
Speaker 1: on my favorite you will come back. I think it's
Speaker 1: interesting because you know I think I know is that
Speaker 1: you guys got respect for each other. I think that
Speaker 1: I think what you said it was like, yo, listen,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't have to like everything my man
Speaker 1: does at all, Right, But it's the way of my
Speaker 1: approach it. Yeah, yeah, like now and then keep in
Speaker 1: mind like I'm Sam signed the Drink Champs records, right,
Speaker 1: I got some much ship, but I'm signed to you guys.
Speaker 1: I do everything and I'm supposed to do, And you
Speaker 1: guys do everything you're supposed to do contracts with right,
Speaker 1: and things don't work out? Say things don't work out,
Speaker 1: but outside of the contract, I get jammed up on
Speaker 1: some real life ship. Right, you guys come to my
Speaker 1: aid like that in a major way. I would never
Speaker 1: forget that, all right. I feel like Joe forgot that
Speaker 1: when he was saying what he was saying. You feel
Speaker 1: me like, I don't forget solid ship. That's just now
Speaker 1: how I'm cutting, Like I even remember You probably don't
Speaker 1: remember when I was young on death Rod came out,
Speaker 1: Me and Sheil came up to a session you was
Speaker 1: at though all the soulid Southtrack studiostreet and and you
Speaker 1: was making sure we was good. You see what I'm
Speaker 1: saying on that good left? Yeah? I remember, I never
Speaker 1: remember solid ship. You feel I never forget solid ship,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So I would think that
Speaker 1: as long as em and Paul didn't crossing him in
Speaker 1: a certain kind of way. I would think he would
Speaker 1: have enough respect to just be like, yo, you know what,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna step on the gas on this one
Speaker 1: like that, you know what I mean, I don't like it.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say that I don't like it. But
Speaker 1: you know this is when it's just fair, like you know,
Speaker 1: you can't. You just can't like every game. Let's play,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, but then it's a
Speaker 1: it's a difference, you know, I get what you were saying.
Speaker 1: And although I don't think it hurt even any way
Speaker 1: shape for fashion, but voice in the opinion, sometimes it
Speaker 1: can't be hurt. It can't be especially coming from a
Speaker 1: family member, you know what I'm saying, Like, come on, especially,
Speaker 1: I don't know how you guys have family strucks. I
Speaker 1: don't know that if that was the case. But if
Speaker 1: that wasn't it definitely affects the smartouse. Yeah, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: it definitely did, because me and Royce was behind the
Speaker 1: scenes working trying to get down out to the people,
Speaker 1: and you know, that was like a grenade, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, that he took the pin out and
Speaker 1: tossed that bitch what happened. Uh, but I'm trying to
Speaker 1: stuff I'm not, but now that was that that was real?
Speaker 1: Because um so in your opinion, right, because I uh
Speaker 1: I heard he said he felt like that day like
Speaker 1: M wasn't pushing U slaughter house, like it was something
Speaker 1: that was missing missing, meaning M had just sold these
Speaker 1: millionaires a union unit units. You come into you guys project,
Speaker 1: you guys project doesn't work, and he's kind of I
Speaker 1: don't want to say he blamed or but he kind
Speaker 1: of alluded that MS fast that right. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like you guys were talking earlier about
Speaker 1: the ship and the culture in the way that technology
Speaker 1: plays a part now on social media. I believe we
Speaker 1: came in at a time on Shady where M didn't
Speaker 1: have to do so much ship. He was used to
Speaker 1: having one formula to make things rock, but that formula
Speaker 1: was changing with the times. So what M did? He said, Okay,
Speaker 1: that first round, that's on me. Y'all go back in
Speaker 1: and make another album, and I'm gonna just let y'all rock.
Speaker 1: Do whatever y'all want to do, handle it the way
Speaker 1: you want to handle it, roll it out how you
Speaker 1: want to roll it out, just do you. We all
Speaker 1: agreed and went back into the lab. That's my problem
Speaker 1: with If you agreed to go back and record another
Speaker 1: album and give it another shot, why are we still
Speaker 1: talking about the second This is the second album on
Speaker 1: Shad First album was E one Slarterhouse self titled second album,
Speaker 1: Welcome to Our House on Shady Records. Third album, Glasshouse,
Speaker 1: that's the one that's the one that never came out.
Speaker 1: You guys have proved that an indie route was could
Speaker 1: be successful, right, correct? Correct? I mean, but we I
Speaker 1: moved to New York for like a month and a
Speaker 1: half and we did the whole glass House out there,
Speaker 1: just us how we wanted to do it. They gave
Speaker 1: us the ball and then you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: the team broke up. M I thought it was like
Speaker 1: someone else. I'm a little what is it called? Because
Speaker 1: I thought it was like way deeper than that. So
Speaker 1: you're telling me it's it's like but the way you
Speaker 1: just simply just said that, Yeah, I mean there's some
Speaker 1: things with slaughter House, you know that we we need
Speaker 1: to talk about. But I mean, people, you're gonna have
Speaker 1: something like I'm not an hold my breath though lyrical
Speaker 1: bars and and there was a brotherhood and well, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know I thought it was. I thought it was,
Speaker 1: and then at times I said, you know what, I
Speaker 1: don't think it was. But if one person isn't brotherly,
Speaker 1: doesn't make it all full brotherly or no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you know, It's just I'm just cut different. Like you know,
Speaker 1: I got three slaughter house tattoos, you feel me, Like
Speaker 1: like when it was going down, if if anybody was
Speaker 1: in trouble, I was there with him. And you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, I'm just it was just a difference
Speaker 1: to not to break up. Yeah, but just a different
Speaker 1: Just remember how serious it was. But an incident happened
Speaker 1: in the l A. What you know, two individuals, How
Speaker 1: personal you took it. How people were saying, man, you
Speaker 1: know cooking out here, wow because of believe you know,
Speaker 1: someone's hands got laid on in l A. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that was personal for you. That was that wasn't
Speaker 1: in That was very personal because I feel like, if
Speaker 1: you're on my coach, you should feel comfortable to move around.
Speaker 1: And I would hope that that's the same way if
Speaker 1: I'm in your city. You know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: I took even though it was two city things, even
Speaker 1: though because all parties, I know, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's like, why would you do that? Because I
Speaker 1: felt like it was a spit in my face? How
Speaker 1: how is that? Like, let's just say it for them?
Speaker 1: Because he was talking to cold Joe was a great
Speaker 1: on They got into some ship l A. It was
Speaker 1: on of grounds. Joe kind of he kind of live
Speaker 1: streamed the whole kind of thing, which was he kind
Speaker 1: of brought the coroller like the first because I believe,
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. And then with brother brolls
Speaker 1: out here right now, then I'm man, I love her
Speaker 1: and he was like, you know, I said, ray dog,
Speaker 1: you know why why on my coach? So you know,
Speaker 1: we came up there with a football team because the
Speaker 1: way Joe sounded on the phone, I said, I'd better
Speaker 1: bring the whole city. You know what I'm saying. And um,
Speaker 1: believe it or not, some of my people fell out
Speaker 1: with me over that because they wanted to ride, well,
Speaker 1: they wanted to ride, but they fell out with me
Speaker 1: because they feel like Joe didn't respect them and they
Speaker 1: and they was ready to go one percent for Joe,
Speaker 1: so so they felt like he didn't respect that at all,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I fell out with
Speaker 1: some of my people that I came out to Sandbox.
Speaker 1: We behind that, you know what I'm saying. So it
Speaker 1: was a horri deal. But you know, luckily, I'm the
Speaker 1: type of dude that's gonna go to the ogs to
Speaker 1: Triple O GS and say, Yo, man, should I go?
Speaker 1: They like, it's your call, and I'm like, yo, man.
Speaker 1: You know, I got love for my man Ray, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I got love for people different
Speaker 1: people in the Wouchang, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: I was able to go talk to the old g
Speaker 1: s and they was like, look, man, you might just
Speaker 1: want to lay low on this one, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, because look how your man is acting towards us,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it was just a
Speaker 1: bunch of crap. But I mean, I'm good with Ray,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I'm good rouchange. I speak
Speaker 1: to him offering Brisoners. My wi is my guy guy,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I'm just happy that
Speaker 1: it all turned it something positive, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Because I don't like that low vibration ship and I feel, yeah,
Speaker 1: only I don't like the way I feel when I
Speaker 1: feel like we're about to have to do something, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? God that ye little. It's just
Speaker 1: because you know how everybody in saw the house. When
Speaker 1: I look at it, uh, I feel like you took
Speaker 1: it most personal. Hit me out, meaning I felt like,
Speaker 1: you know, industry, we don't believe in the industry, got
Speaker 1: the while like I just like, man, this is just
Speaker 1: what it is. But I feel like you was like
Speaker 1: somebody like, yo, this is a brotherhood. I'm an hone
Speaker 1: of that. Let's say that that they didn't know that
Speaker 1: or anybody out of that. But I just feel like,
Speaker 1: like me from the outside looking at I don't have
Speaker 1: no inside information, you know. I'm just looking as a fan.
Speaker 1: I can be a fan too, and I'm looking like
Speaker 1: I knew those those certain situations you took personal. I
Speaker 1: knew certain situations you you wanted to honor it, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And um, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's over. You don't think what's up? Chris?
Speaker 1: It's a wrap on that. Yeah, damn world the first
Speaker 1: a minute, but talking about cruise, being that we are
Speaker 1: dream champs. We got to acknowledge the alcoholics Cruise alcoholics.
Speaker 1: Such a fan of that movement, the bird us alcoholics.
Speaker 1: But what what's what's up with there? Is it? Oh man?
Speaker 1: As far as keen t ching t is the person
Speaker 1: that I have the most like he's he lives right
Speaker 1: around the corner. He lives right down the street from me.
Speaker 1: So you know, I really, you know, feel good about
Speaker 1: you know, my relationship with him. I know, you know,
Speaker 1: j ro Old Tash uh j Rose back in l A.
Speaker 1: He moved to Sweden for a while. Yea do like
Speaker 1: the hip hop sc yeah yeah, and then and then
Speaker 1: uh Tea Tash and Eastwood fur in Vegas. Yeah. But
Speaker 1: I mean we when we see each other, it's all love.
Speaker 1: You know. How the crew get created? Though King t
Speaker 1: created every was it like collectively? Like all y'all, this
Speaker 1: is what it is. This is alcoholics and this is
Speaker 1: the crew, the Lytics. No, King t Uh Actually, um
Speaker 1: j Row, east Wood and Tash were a group called
Speaker 1: E s P before they were to Alcoholics, right, Um
Speaker 1: Tash and Eastwood from Ohio and so when they came
Speaker 1: through and J Rowe from Pomona. So they all got
Speaker 1: together and King T was like, yo, y'all need to
Speaker 1: change E S E S P, which was like, um,
Speaker 1: something street poets and you do every day. He's just like,
Speaker 1: you know, Key was like, no, no, it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's printing the ie Lympics. No, but Keith T creating
Speaker 1: is like, Yo, you guys need to call yourself the
Speaker 1: alcoholics alcoholic. Scott signed to loud and then I think
Speaker 1: after that I was third. Yeah, I came on second,
Speaker 1: you know, from after the alcoholics, and then the far
Speaker 1: right came after me. And it's such an extension of
Speaker 1: the crew to like yeah people or whatever. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: many people. Absolutely, it was it was. It was. It
Speaker 1: was a family. We all was used to run together.
Speaker 1: And it was at the first full tank of the
Speaker 1: West coast of the West Coast. Yeah, um, because the
Speaker 1: West Coast have another rain, like like you said for like,
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys have errors from well, how do
Speaker 1: you say it's not raining right TV? Right now, I'm
Speaker 1: not that I'm saying a new one, like a brand
Speaker 1: new one like you're trying to talk about like the
Speaker 1: like the like what we call like the golden days.
Speaker 1: Then when when when death row and motherfucking and and yeah,
Speaker 1: but a certain generation it is going through a golden
Speaker 1: name but already got you. I'm saying that another We
Speaker 1: already got that. So you're saying that's saying something brand new.
Speaker 1: We got it, just got a little different. It's just
Speaker 1: gonna look different. It's gonna's and it's we saw that one.
Speaker 1: So it's not gonna skill the same note, but it's
Speaker 1: gonna look different. But it can happen for sure, because
Speaker 1: like we didn't want the guy with the rainbow head,
Speaker 1: but he did bring a couple of trophies home and
Speaker 1: we did claim's like, yeah, broke our trophy. But I
Speaker 1: think you do you think the face of musical is
Speaker 1: going to continue to change like that? Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: our value system of what we used to make. You know,
Speaker 1: our judgments on hip hop has changed. Well I think, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: are you're right? Our judgment will change, but their judgment
Speaker 1: with yes and and our and the goal post has
Speaker 1: been moved. So you know, we used to be able
Speaker 1: to judge people's success by plaques. We used to be
Speaker 1: able to judge people's success by you know, awards. Um.
Speaker 1: Now it's kind of like um, like the plaques, aren't
Speaker 1: people used to people get excited for two hundred thousand
Speaker 1: records sold and three hundred thousand records, So now you
Speaker 1: with it the numbers like the numbers that used to
Speaker 1: be put up on the fun a lot more money.
Speaker 1: How would excitement over sixty reconsole when I mean, it's like,
Speaker 1: so are we had to reevaluate what is valuable with
Speaker 1: the whole ship, you know what I'm saying. So we
Speaker 1: can't look at it the way we used to look
Speaker 1: at it. So that's why people are able to become
Speaker 1: like suits, like I'm sorry, superstars overnight through the streaming
Speaker 1: ship and through these other things. But then you gotta
Speaker 1: look at the longevity of it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like these guys they turn on and they out a
Speaker 1: year in the next year, So there's there's the price
Speaker 1: to pay for that instant fame. But the one thing
Speaker 1: that I do get the new generation that is so
Speaker 1: awesome is they can go directly. Absolutely that's the Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so are they because a lot of them are you
Speaker 1: mean to be going direct? And he pulls tribution, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: People like that because he makes these young kids rapping
Speaker 1: that don't have a label deal or don't have anything.
Speaker 1: It makes them feel like, well, if he could do
Speaker 1: it like that, I could do it like that. And
Speaker 1: I'm steady trying to tell you he's not doing it
Speaker 1: like that. There's always a wizard of Odes false product.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You give him a false hold,
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna lie. It's making the music ship too,
Speaker 1: because anybody could make it. Like anybody could literally, like
Speaker 1: you know, I've seen a tweet the other day, I
Speaker 1: think I hosted it, and um and I see the
Speaker 1: tweet and they said, you know, back in the days,
Speaker 1: we would want to, you know, make a record like
Speaker 1: rock him and we could have another part of this,
Speaker 1: he said. But you can't never make it, he said.
Speaker 1: The thing is nowadays these kids could listen to a
Speaker 1: record and say, you know what, I make that and
Speaker 1: really make that that. That's like we can't do gender
Speaker 1: juice over can't do that, and like make that ship
Speaker 1: a class you can new pitch please right now and
Speaker 1: like making the same ship like right now you can
Speaker 1: actually do whatever. Wouldn't be thinking whatever these kids are doing,
Speaker 1: you can actually do it. I got X is a
Speaker 1: pertect big pharmacy. Oh you heard, he's that you'll give
Speaker 1: him one thing. At least at least they're peaceful about
Speaker 1: the ship because I might get shot. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That people used to beat over. You can't
Speaker 1: just jack somebody style of them bite somebody. You know.
Speaker 1: Now they just all sound like each other and do
Speaker 1: the funk sound like a j problem? There's no problem,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We came up. It was
Speaker 1: hands on, hippop hands on. He was so hands on.
Speaker 1: I forgot, what's your relationship with that? Mad right? Me
Speaker 1: and Busino? I think he uh, he says something about Slaughterhouse,
Speaker 1: and it was at a time where I didn't understand
Speaker 1: that when you're going to another level, people are gonna
Speaker 1: say ship you feel me? I thought that I still
Speaker 1: have to react to every fucking thing that everybody said.
Speaker 1: You know, now I understand I don't have to react
Speaker 1: to ship, you know what I'm saying. But he said
Speaker 1: something negative about slaughter House and I was just in
Speaker 1: that mode like, yo, no man, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And then him and Royce had a little back and
Speaker 1: forth and it was it was crazy because you know,
Speaker 1: I used to funk with buses. You know. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He got the day the day and
Speaker 1: Dave made you know what I'm saying, and I respect
Speaker 1: what they put down with the source and you know
Speaker 1: that's stuff that's the original bodyboard hip hop fast. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I just I just hated that.
Speaker 1: I probably handle that a little wrong. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. To be honest with you. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because he's bigging you up. They're coming on
Speaker 1: here and them actually bigging you up. Let's saying the
Speaker 1: exact opposite of what's happened. At the time. He's like,
Speaker 1: you know, Cook, it's my man. He just you don't
Speaker 1: know what's going on in the room. And I was like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that. Yeah man, I mean
Speaker 1: you know, it's you know, cool man. I just like
Speaker 1: I said, Dog, I was just in that space. Dog.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you and that when you're lawyer. When
Speaker 1: you're lawyer, can't see but you're riding for the team,
Speaker 1: supposed to ride for the team and everything else. Later
Speaker 1: he's supposed to say whatever. You know, these things, you know,
Speaker 1: januinely cares about the culture, whether you agree with some
Speaker 1: of these views or not. Yes, yes he cares about
Speaker 1: the culture like he's a hip hop but he is
Speaker 1: one million percent for the culture is one million percent.
Speaker 1: And you know, sometimes you know you you could be
Speaker 1: in the right place, right y'all think he probably whatever
Speaker 1: he said he is. It's so crazy. I don't even
Speaker 1: remember what it was about. But I think it has
Speaker 1: something to do with us being attached to eminem and
Speaker 1: m and history, you know what I mean. So and
Speaker 1: plus I wasn't even around me and you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But you know, silly ship like that. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: hip hop, I'm actually I actually love that we can grow.
Speaker 1: I actually love that, you know, people get like I
Speaker 1: love Drake and Meet Mills situation right now, like, and
Speaker 1: I love that Drake even made fun of it like
Speaker 1: a poster. Mean was like, yo, if I hurt you
Speaker 1: and I ain't, He's like, did you see that ship?
Speaker 1: Like watching? And I think that's what makes hip hop dope.
Speaker 1: It's like, yo, I can we can be but as
Speaker 1: long as no one got their hands put on, no
Speaker 1: one's gonna hurt that. We can also you know, make
Speaker 1: amends and then make money. And it helped sixteen thousand
Speaker 1: other people make more money. I feel like that's I
Speaker 1: feel like, I feel like that's what the East Coast
Speaker 1: West Coast say is. It was a big misunderstanding, and
Speaker 1: now I look at it. You can't go to the
Speaker 1: East Coast without seeing a West Coast due East Coast.
Speaker 1: I can't go to the West Coast, but I've seen
Speaker 1: the East Coast dude, like, and it's just but we
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been there fun if it wasn't some type
Speaker 1: of like like not the same We're respected the smoke,
Speaker 1: but the fact that that happened and what it is
Speaker 1: today and what it is today like to this day,
Speaker 1: I go out there and everybody when I'm in um
Speaker 1: in l A, most of the people I see is
Speaker 1: from New York people. And then when I'm in New York,
Speaker 1: everybody's like, man, you know, they we both got the
Speaker 1: opposite goal whatever. Always it's always funny. When I was
Speaker 1: when I give an iced tea because I'm like, what's
Speaker 1: up over the room, He's like, you don't you know
Speaker 1: I live over here, Like like, damn, you know I
Speaker 1: want to live where you just laugh exactly, And I
Speaker 1: love New York man killing it, man doing movies you
Speaker 1: gotta be in l a correct. You know. A lot
Speaker 1: of movies you know and not get booked in that light.
Speaker 1: But a lot of movies are filmed in other plays
Speaker 1: like yeah, Van cool, you know Atlanta. Um film film
Speaker 1: can happen anywhere, you know, But the business isn't that
Speaker 1: like you know, um and the people that that really
Speaker 1: are pushing buttons and the studios are there, you know.
Speaker 1: So if you're gonna come there as an executive as
Speaker 1: as as an actor, you will at some point, um
Speaker 1: come to that La Copter. God, damn, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: You have the best weed in the morning. I remember,
Speaker 1: I wasn't you. I don't remember that. I got a
Speaker 1: little story for you. I was on the West Coast
Speaker 1: one night. I just left out a subclub and I
Speaker 1: stood outside smoking and you was out, was like you
Speaker 1: helped me down. I was outside smoking and he was
Speaker 1: looking up. He was like, it's just snormy. You could
Speaker 1: just buy himself just I was like, yo, I had
Speaker 1: already got soaked in and yeah, man like, because you know,
Speaker 1: it was scary for us at first, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because of you know, the biggie thing like
Speaker 1: you know that ship that that's some scary ship, like
Speaker 1: you know for us, because we didn't. We were too
Speaker 1: young to understand what was going on. We're too young
Speaker 1: to understand that the disc record could lead to too
Speaker 1: We're coming ain't bad? All right? Yeah, he called me.
Speaker 1: You're we come inhead. We want to put you in
Speaker 1: the podcast where you at. You sound drunk? All right?
Speaker 1: All right, come in here, come inside, Come inside, Come inside,
Speaker 1: I said, he sounds drunk. I ain't even here, but
Speaker 1: it was it was I remember I remember after Big
Speaker 1: Dying m I don't care what the record label we
Speaker 1: was on. They we would lad and they would make
Speaker 1: sure we had security, and I was like a non
Speaker 1: security dude, and it was just like it was something
Speaker 1: we couldn't fight and we were like literally like shoku.
Speaker 1: And I remember none of us hunk out, like none
Speaker 1: of us came. It was one of those days and
Speaker 1: I came out and I said it. I remember evening
Speaker 1: actually said. I was like, man, you know New York dudes,
Speaker 1: don't hangtu eather like, don't finish that, don't finish the sentence. Remember,
Speaker 1: it was like a chill because I was like because
Speaker 1: it was like literally that tab bore at the time
Speaker 1: because I was that was real, Like we hadn't seen
Speaker 1: death in hip hop, like we've seen death and hip
Speaker 1: we didn't see you know, cancer, diabetes and like that,
Speaker 1: so you know, it was real. So where we at now, Popsipe,
Speaker 1: And that's the exact same thing I'm talking about when
Speaker 1: I came to New York because that was one of
Speaker 1: my first trips to New York, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: And I didn't know what to exact. I'm on death
Speaker 1: row records, you know, I'm going to the East Coast
Speaker 1: ship I might be loving. You feel me, so you
Speaker 1: know when you did what you did, you feel me
Speaker 1: and that's what made me say, you know what, this
Speaker 1: is solid dude, man. You know what I mean. I'll
Speaker 1: never forget this moment, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: I like how you say giving the people the flowers
Speaker 1: and all that, because like even x X is of
Speaker 1: one hundred dude, period. You can't find people in the
Speaker 1: industry that's one hundred like that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So when you do, you gotta give them their flowers
Speaker 1: while they hear you. Gotta say it on public platforms.
Speaker 1: People act like it's illegal to tell the truth. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But this dude right here
Speaker 1: one many levels to show love, yeah, show love like um.
Speaker 1: One of the craziest things is uh us to say
Speaker 1: no homebo. Right. We get I get it. But a
Speaker 1: lot of times if I say, yo, cookie man, you
Speaker 1: know that first you got on the I might just say,
Speaker 1: you know, no, homo five because the bird was hard.
Speaker 1: He's showing a line. And the thing is, it puts
Speaker 1: a taboo on our culture when that's that should be
Speaker 1: the exact opposite. That should be like, you know, we
Speaker 1: shouldn't even say that. We should be like yo, man
Speaker 1: who killed that? Give people all mainstream show yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: and we gotta we gotta, we gotta change that in
Speaker 1: our culture. We have to exchange it. We have to.
Speaker 1: We have to like this is why I drink champions
Speaker 1: it like you know, so many people, you know, we
Speaker 1: will see I'm gonna keep it real. I don't want
Speaker 1: to front. We will see so much slack. We put
Speaker 1: on ot Genesis and we put on young dogs, right
Speaker 1: people that's probably I considered legends, but we wanted to
Speaker 1: get them benefit. Doubt they knew brothers. They're coming up,
Speaker 1: they're doing it, and we built our this this ship
Speaker 1: so bad that the fans really fans there. But come on, please,
Speaker 1: let come on. We don't gotta break the screens. Get
Speaker 1: a chance, get talking about real quickly. Oh you can't
Speaker 1: even Dominican jacket too pure, you don't worry about come on,
Speaker 1: we're sure you guys. Mike, we don't know. Mike, you've
Speaker 1: got the boom. Mike, right, get this away. I need
Speaker 1: to do saying. Oh, that's right, that's a right, that's
Speaker 1: right to do. St. Pelusa. Let's make some voice producing.
Speaker 1: That's the found the right started in that motherfucker's career,
Speaker 1: right there? Are you? Loco? I know you know, you
Speaker 1: know that we're gonna joe this podcast. Really you didn't
Speaker 1: know this is rory? Yeah? Really no, No, that's it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: familiar milion. This is never gonna be a slaughter house again.
Speaker 1: This is an ambush. I didn't know. I didn't let this.
Speaker 1: This is a total inbush outside Crook's love all that.
Speaker 1: This is an ambush. I just want to make that close.
Speaker 1: It's a total ambush. I can't because I love you.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you were doing. The house to
Speaker 1: come back quick. We sold the house is none of
Speaker 1: my business. Why did y'all ask me if I sold out? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true, that's why would I That was a great response.
Speaker 1: Crook and Joey do a lot of respect. I love Joe.
Speaker 1: My loyalty is always with Joe, But why would have
Speaker 1: an opinion on sold house? That's gonna do with me?
Speaker 1: I got a expenion, So you're not smoking. I think,
Speaker 1: I think I want to. I want you to you know,
Speaker 1: if Drake and meet mail where you're going with this
Speaker 1: can move on? I think eventually slow the house because
Speaker 1: I think it's it's too important to hip hop to
Speaker 1: let that go. Me personally, I don't know where everything
Speaker 1: lies wherever because I don't. I don't know everything because
Speaker 1: I'm also an artists. I don't know if you had
Speaker 1: an agenda here with a sold house. No, I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say a word that we could talk
Speaker 1: a hip hop but I don't have any opinion. A
Speaker 1: lot of apples and what they do that I mean,
Speaker 1: they're very HIPI as a fan, I love Let's like
Speaker 1: saying like if I was actually about Wu Tang, right,
Speaker 1: if I was gonna say Yo Wu Tang, you would
Speaker 1: say what messy man is not one of my best friends.
Speaker 1: So I can comment objectively great, fucking great. I can't
Speaker 1: objectively talk about start out. One of the members is
Speaker 1: one of like, that's tenly to me. I respect that,
Speaker 1: So I can't. Let's stay business. It's not about business. Respect,
Speaker 1: that's not about it. Pete, about where are you from?
Speaker 1: Queen's you set up? Can you get to try to
Speaker 1: take them all? Shout? He get a shout? Can we
Speaker 1: get a run of plause for your project? This ship?
Speaker 1: I don't know what project? Oh think, what are you
Speaker 1: talking about? My favorite part of that intro? Man? What's
Speaker 1: what's the bar? I'm about to get rich of a
Speaker 1: pure personality again, Thank you man. I appreciate it. Everybody
Speaker 1: but yourself. That's right. That's good because I stay ahead
Speaker 1: like big up everybody else and then you no one
Speaker 1: to pay attention to what you're doing. I want you
Speaker 1: have a little bit of beef. I do have a
Speaker 1: little beef with you. Here we go again, changing. I'm
Speaker 1: a professional. Last time I came here, when I was
Speaker 1: on here, it was cool. It was like, really this
Speaker 1: is like some real professional. You got the whole We
Speaker 1: was in a different world. Try to like this ship
Speaker 1: doing takes like this ain't the cool. Yes, it's crazy,
Speaker 1: sold brother, I'm sorry we're not saying the checks. Time
Speaker 1: I was here, this ship was like you kick you
Speaker 1: see a man show man. They got hair and makeup.
Speaker 1: Oh no, they do the pup and they got stars.
Speaker 1: They stylish. At least you don't do hair makeup and
Speaker 1: stylish man, that's debatable. No, we don't got on hair makeup.
Speaker 1: I didn't see it, but I wouldn't be so. And
Speaker 1: they'll think it here and do hair and makeup. He
Speaker 1: is a hair friend. Weeople were right. We are turned.
Speaker 1: We are a different show. But let me just say
Speaker 1: something right here. Let me pick up to a state
Speaker 1: of the coach other big up to Joe, what y'ab
Speaker 1: what you do? Let me pick up to the Joe podcast.
Speaker 1: Think y'all do? And and it's love and it's a
Speaker 1: community's end to think about the way if y'all succeed,
Speaker 1: we all success. The same fans ship is say, kind
Speaker 1: of a new uncharted territory type of ship, like the
Speaker 1: more with our Spotify deal, like that just gave people
Speaker 1: more worth, like when they saw what we was worth
Speaker 1: for that Spotify deal. That means the next podcast that
Speaker 1: comes up as the same numbers as us are. I
Speaker 1: know what we're worse because I know what they got.
Speaker 1: So when I did the revote ship like grap Radar
Speaker 1: all that ship. Any time we do the ship like
Speaker 1: people try to we're all. I know, we do the
Speaker 1: funny ship like. But it's not with me to think
Speaker 1: about it is this is what I believe in. I
Speaker 1: believe hip hop to control hip hop. Now what I
Speaker 1: mean by that is I love Hennessee right. I love
Speaker 1: I'm lie, I don't really love it, but I'm like
Speaker 1: I love love more. I love more Whack right. But
Speaker 1: if I had a choice, I would like to own
Speaker 1: my own version of more Whack Right. And I would
Speaker 1: like that to be on the table. To me in
Speaker 1: a perfect world is if I'm going to get socks,
Speaker 1: them socks is owned by somebody that is owned by
Speaker 1: somebody that owns something in hip hop. If I'm going
Speaker 1: to get news, I want like I said, I said
Speaker 1: it all the time, I want Jim Jones to be
Speaker 1: my weather man, like when I get the weather, and
Speaker 1: I wanted to be a nigga like Jim Jones going
Speaker 1: on the back with saying your ship is real and Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: do the fucker. I would rather that, Like if I'm
Speaker 1: going to go see sports, I would like to see
Speaker 1: j the Kiss being the person that's telling me, you'll
Speaker 1: listen the niggas that lake is they I would like
Speaker 1: it to come off from hip hop, like that's what,
Speaker 1: that's what, that's my dream, that my dream is. I
Speaker 1: never have to go outside my culture. And now with
Speaker 1: that being said, our culture can't be Ratio. It can't
Speaker 1: be you know, blacks and Latinos. That has to be everybody,
Speaker 1: anybody that love hip hop. That's our new race is
Speaker 1: hip hop. That we all bonded, we all congested together
Speaker 1: because we're all repper that one flag and that's hip hop.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what's gonna save humanity. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I got way too deep right now. Just's just not
Speaker 1: really dream jams. I'm sorry, but we're gonna shout out
Speaker 1: David Banner who was here are you? And he talked
Speaker 1: about that everything he was wearing except his pants, he
Speaker 1: owned it like he owned it and changed the economy
Speaker 1: in the hood. You see what I mean. It saved
Speaker 1: a lot of lives and they changed the entire economy.
Speaker 1: You gotta do rapping. You gotta managers, you gotta producer,
Speaker 1: you gotta promoter, you gotta graph artist, you gotta hip
Speaker 1: hop exact. You got people getting checks all because of
Speaker 1: the culture, and if it could do something as powerful
Speaker 1: as that, they could do exactly what you wanted to do. North.
Speaker 1: But when the cultures are changing the economy of the industry,
Speaker 1: that's when the culture started to change. Did the culture
Speaker 1: change or did mainstream rap just come into play, but
Speaker 1: the culture still. I just I've seen people down the
Speaker 1: street with the kids on the walls, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I go to Italy, I see people out there.
Speaker 1: You know they're rapping. Because it wasn't the president of
Speaker 1: the at one point, Yeah, he wanted to give me
Speaker 1: an exact job, you know what I'm saying that, and
Speaker 1: then he made came on. But that's how well he
Speaker 1: me and you talked about executive positions and you know,
Speaker 1: sugars like this. I'm going to go meet with Leor
Speaker 1: and I want you to learn the game and get
Speaker 1: your business i Q. So I'm gonna take you with
Speaker 1: me so you could just soak up the game, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, and that's how she was, so,
Speaker 1: you know, and he wanted to do like retirement funds
Speaker 1: for artists. He wanted to do health you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, insurance for artists. But every time he tried
Speaker 1: to do something on that level, he got resistance from
Speaker 1: the powers that be. And sometimes that resistance comes in
Speaker 1: the form of the FEDS knocking at your doing. Luis,
Speaker 1: you should what I mean. So he had that mindset though,
Speaker 1: absolutely he had that mondset. We all biggest God bless
Speaker 1: I want to I want to thank you, exhibit, to
Speaker 1: thank you for coming out showing a love because honestly,
Speaker 1: this is what makes us who we are. We gotta
Speaker 1: keep saluting and supporting each other. Dig motherfucking crooked eye. Man,
Speaker 1: you brought you some snakes to Oh that's that's okay.
Speaker 1: I'm into that, you know. I'm Romeo eighteen seventy five
Speaker 1: is like my favorite man. Okay. So that's like Romeo
Speaker 1: and Juliette. Yeah, Romeo and Julian. That's a love story,
Speaker 1: like Jimo said. Yeah, And I also want to thank
Speaker 1: you too, war We gotta also want you to set
Speaker 1: up at all. I just think it's just something I
Speaker 1: was kid about that I wouldn't. That's inside, that's person
Speaker 1: that we know. It wasn't. Man, you know like that
Speaker 1: was a great connection right here, like I actually brought
Speaker 1: you up. Like he's here, like he knows. I mean,
Speaker 1: people want people want to know that's how strong the
Speaker 1: sat Our house brand was. Yeah, I mean not you
Speaker 1: still want to know outside of let's be clear, I
Speaker 1: got a little side commission at all. But as a
Speaker 1: hip hop or as a person that knows that four
Speaker 1: different lyricists got together and did some crazy ship and
Speaker 1: I don't know why it's going. I know that the
Speaker 1: M ship played a big part of it. That's all.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And I just man and let me just ask you again,
Speaker 1: this is not a sound But did you know? That's
Speaker 1: how you know it's a set up? What did you disrespect?
Speaker 1: When here comes from disrespect? You named Joe went kind
Speaker 1: of too far when he was critiquing M's album or
Speaker 1: or uh. I think a lot of things that Joe
Speaker 1: said were made up. If you go back and look
Speaker 1: what he said on every Day Struggle, I think it
Speaker 1: got blown out of proportion. I think I was I
Speaker 1: think a lot of ship went to the headline thing
Speaker 1: and and just knowing Joe personally and how much he
Speaker 1: loves him and respects him proportion though, if you go
Speaker 1: back and look what he said on Everyday Struggle, I
Speaker 1: challenged anyone that picks. He used the word trash, and
Speaker 1: I think that was what was the Remember the context
Speaker 1: exactly of what was trash untouchable? I guess he says
Speaker 1: his trash stored in the rice or some ship. You
Speaker 1: know what Joe be saying? Yeah, going on, I mean
Speaker 1: that's going to podcast. No, No, the thing that everyone
Speaker 1: was talking about was right there. Okay, yeah it wasn't aboutcast.
Speaker 1: But did he clarify it on on your podcast? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we significantly went through it. And you know, I'm always
Speaker 1: as as one of his close friends, the first person
Speaker 1: to say when he bugging, And I don't think he
Speaker 1: was sucking. I think it was Honestly, I don't want
Speaker 1: to know you, don't want to have more complications but
Speaker 1: platform with you, because what yeah, that's nothing to do
Speaker 1: with me. I got I want to be here to
Speaker 1: talk about here because I love North to death. My
Speaker 1: whole thing is is that, like I was saying, dog,
Speaker 1: if you got a issue with somebody pass on the
Speaker 1: critique of the album and their singles, because how can
Speaker 1: you be fair? How can you come from a place
Speaker 1: that you know what I mean, you just listening to it,
Speaker 1: you say, and your personal feelings to the side. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, you know what I mean? And I
Speaker 1: just think that with everything that see, me and Royce
Speaker 1: were very hands on Snarterhouse from the beginning to the end,
Speaker 1: me and Royce to five nine. So all fitness, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry to cut your sustrainity and I wanted you to
Speaker 1: finish your point. But um, so we're talking about revival, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we talked about revival, but then Kama Kazi actually came
Speaker 1: out after that, which was the am I correctory. The
Speaker 1: Karmic Kazi came out right after him. So do you
Speaker 1: think m felt that like a little bit like like
Speaker 1: that's from Joe particular, But I'm just saying, just do
Speaker 1: you think that he felt that from that fans? So
Speaker 1: that's why he went and made Karma Kazi. I think
Speaker 1: he was inspired, and I think he was inspired by
Speaker 1: his critics. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I think
Speaker 1: he was inspired by his class and he just went
Speaker 1: in and got and that's him. He gonna he's gonna
Speaker 1: speak his mind. I mean, he's done in his own career,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So he was just inspired.
Speaker 1: He went in and he made some ship. And you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, Dog, it's just like I said me, Royce,
Speaker 1: we just really we win the trenches for slaughter House.
Speaker 1: You give me so when it you go in the
Speaker 1: trenches like that, and if you if you got a
Speaker 1: communication line with your brothers, then you talk to your
Speaker 1: brothers like, Yo, this is what I'm about to do.
Speaker 1: Is this gonna harm anything that you guys are doing
Speaker 1: to try to get glass House out right now? Because
Speaker 1: I don't like my time to be wasted. If I'm
Speaker 1: flying from Cali to New York sitting in the office,
Speaker 1: is fighting for this Glasshouse ship on my own time?
Speaker 1: Let me know if you're gonna throw a grenade at
Speaker 1: that bitch, you know what I'm saying, Just let me know,
Speaker 1: and I won't get on that plane. You feel me, God,
Speaker 1: it's gone all right? Yeah, wrap it up. Let's wrap
Speaker 1: it up. He's not a quit. Now. I gotta take
Speaker 1: a PASSI