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He's on Miami Hippop Pioneer up his 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:05.040 dj e FN. Together they're drinking up with some of 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:10.200 the biggest players in the most professional unprofessional podcast and 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:15.079 yet number one sorts for us New Year's e Just 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:25.560 time for drink champs. Trink up, motherfucking up? What the 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:27.239 good be hoping he is with his two PC boy 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:29.560 and O R. What up is d j e F 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:36.240 and his drink chat? Ya yallow ma up. When we 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.200 think of the West Coast, when we think of a 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:42.320 person who's been standing here phenomenal, you think of a 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:44.639 person who stood by Dr dre side. If we heard 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.160 he's still running the pharmacy right now. It's this very 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:52.000 moment he's transition and went into another whole direction and 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:57.040 he made motherfucking cars. Pam Baker. He has stood the 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:59.480 test of time. You see him on Fox TV. Out here, 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:01.920 I ain't doing what I gotta do, still out here 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:07.040 with the thickest Cubans, making the West Coast look good. 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:08.959 If you don't know what I'm talking about, we're talking 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:16.799 about the one the only said, you've been out here 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:23.400 monkey footing this game for a long goddamn time. You 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:27.280 got one of the most rememberable videos of all times. 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:30.480 What you get? Man? That was crazy. It was the 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:34.600 first time we seen a person like even though it 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:36.680 might have not been one take, it looked like one 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:39.000 take like that. That's how we've seen me. Like what 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:43.960 the yeah? That was like, I mean, there's a story 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:46.240 behind that video. When I was on a Loud Records 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:48.640 of that video that was I was gonna get to 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:50.840 That's a big part of it. So I was on 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.320 a love of records and at the time it was 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:55.880 like heavyweights on the label and and and we had 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:58.080 a West Coast office, and in the West Coast office 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:02.840 it was me the alcohol I think um seller dwellers, 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.120 going back and forth. But they was trying to break 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:08.360 it into the West, and so we were kind of 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:11.040 like on our own island, and you we all know 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.360 you can't go to war from my island. So I 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:17.280 had to be more creative with in order to impress 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:19.880 the New York office. You know, uh, shout out to 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:25.480 Matt Life's Scott Free, all those guys. Yes, So so 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:28.440 I went to uh, I got to um, I got 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:30.960 to this idea of wanted to do this one shot video, 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:33.960 and all the directors that I kept talking to didn't 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:36.680 They couldn't wrap their head around it. And so I 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:38.600 didn't want to give up on the idea. So there's 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:41.920 one director that wanted to actually do it, but he 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:45.400 was a porn director. Yeah, and so he was crazy. 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:47.599 He's like, you know I could, I'm shooting all kinds 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:49.640 of other wild ship Why why couldn't I do that? 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:54.000 So we it's third it was thirteen shots. We we 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:56.880 did it in like two days, two days, and then 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:59.360 we put that thing out and then it just took off, 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.760 and I think I was like the first real impression 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.200 I got to the music industry. Well, everybody had to 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:10.400 step our video game. Yeah, the game. Just in case 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:14.760 you didn't know that anybody, because we had beatings about you. 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:22.560 This guy the water and the water come on, this 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:25.600 doesn't allow. But I wanted. I wanted to do like 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:28.640 videos like that, Like that was you know, I was 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:31.640 new to the industry, like paparazzi. That was my idea 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:35.600 to put the orchestra on the beach because I just 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:38.120 wanted to do other than what everybody else was doing. 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:40.520 I've always tried to be like that and a true 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:43.520 drink chaps fashion. You're a real drink chap because when 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:47.400 I googled you, I realized that you got married and 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:54.120 the rest of them the same same drink, you know, 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:59.600 which is great. Only I could do that. You know. 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:02.960 It was first of all, I love being married, and 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:08.640 you know what I'm saying, it turned into us I 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:11.680 love being married to by the way, absolutely And it 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.400 was a beautiful ceremony. We had, you know, all our 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:19.119 friends and family there and we everything went off without 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:21.040 a hitch. I got back to you know, we were 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.400 standing in the resort next to the place we got married, 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:27.280 and then we ended up getting in the room and 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:30.320 my wife was like, you forgot the box, you know, 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:33.560 the box where everybody dropped the gifts, you know what 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:37.240 I'm saying, right, the money, and so I feel like, 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:40.760 you know what, it's right around the corner. I feel good. 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:48.480 Let me run to go get to every ship. So 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.520 I hit the corner, got the box, came back out, stopped. 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:55.440 You know. I was really excited about getting back and uh, 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.240 I hit a light and then lights came on. Okay, 0:06:58.279 --> 0:06:59.800 so you so right, So you did hit it. Like 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:02.640 so it's not like like the police, let's not racial, Like, no, 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:04.360 I'm not gonna give them that I did. I did 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:06.480 fly fly like you know what I'm saying. And so 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:09.240 they lit me up. So I pulled over the thing 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:11.600 and I was literally, I mean like, this is the 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:13.760 this is where I got stopped. This was the hotel, 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:17.720 you know. And so so I was telling I was like, yo, 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.360 you know, I just got married. I was just here. 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:23.400 It was there and this and this. My motherfucker said, 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:27.360 oh yeah, wi's your tuxedough. I was like, nick, I 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:30.240 just you know what fun you just you know, just 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.400 I got time for this. I was in there for 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:34.320 about an hour, you know what I'm saying. It didn't 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:36.360 the folks came and got me. But the next day 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:38.880 it was like it was you know, how do you 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:40.640 know what I'm saying. It was all over the place, 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:43.360 it was fucked up. Then I was mad, as you 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:49.600 can tell my booking photo man. But at the same time, 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:51.840 you know, now it's it's it's it's a funny story. 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:54.640 You know. Definitely only I could pull some ship like 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:59.480 that crazy. So now when you described earlier, you said 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:02.880 loud right now again, we just had that press on 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:04.920 here too, And you guys were like that was like 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:11.120 the epitome of you guys, that pig, big punt. Like, 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:13.520 how is it even being on a legend every label 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.320 like that? Is it competitive? Is it like like you 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:23.840 describe it, all the New York niggas hated us. I said, 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:26.160 it was two separate things, you know what I'm saying. 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:28.400 And it was like when we go to the office, 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:30.160 it was like all these niggas is here. You know 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:32.439 what I'm saying. Because at the time, you know, Wu 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:35.360 Tang was a juggernaut, you know what I'm saying, Um, 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:38.440 it was, it was super. So it was like we 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.480 always had to prove ourselves and then when we got victory. 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:43.600 When you're saying we, you're saying West Coast West Coast. 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:46.360 It wasn't the hardest or the executives or the people 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:48.520 in the office. It was just like you want, man, 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.280 you know what it was back in the day. I mean, 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:52.760 come on, you know, it's like we used to it. 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:55.160 You know, West Coast niggas flying to New York. The 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:57.760 radio DJ played the ship when they come from the airport, 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:00.280 then you know it's there. And then when they go home, 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:12.360 it's like like that. It's like that, let's keep it. 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:16.400 But that's what I mean, not now, not now, you 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:20.719 know what I'm saying, because the too global, but what 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:23.240 hip hop was very regional at the time, you know 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:24.800 what I'm saying, And so when we would come in, 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:27.040 we would always have to be proving ourselves. And so 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:31.080 once we started having success, especially like behind what you 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:33.000 see is what you get. And then when we started 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:36.640 doing the doctor's race stuff, it was kind of like, oh, okay, 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:38.680 it's accepted and it was a different field when it 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:41.960 came in the office. But Steve Refkin, Rich Isaacson, you know, 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.640 all these guys were like really behind what we were doing, 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:47.040 and so it was a struggle at first, but then 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:49.560 once they saw how serious it was getting, it became 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:52.120 something like it we became part of the family, and 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:54.520 what was that a goal for you? It is like 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:57.880 to be accepted in New York because we know absolutely, 0:09:57.920 --> 0:09:59.680 because we know like for us it's like, you know, 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:04.480 we we invented hip hop or whatever, but we we 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:07.800 in the funny ways we look for y'all for cool signmon, 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:09.719 like we looked to y'all to be like and then. 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:11.840 So I don't know if it did ever mean like 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:16.600 for y'all to be accepted. Absolutely absolutely, I remember going 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:18.680 and I remember we used to walk down the streets 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:20.920 in New York drinking forties. You know what I'm saying, 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.600 sitting on the stool, just going. I remember taking the 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.560 train when I went to by myself to go to 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:36.040 see Master Ace, when I first got to train, by 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:40.240 the way. But it sounds very dangerous, Well, I mean 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:45.600 I wasn't I I think so because they always put 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:48.839 out of town man, and they don't want to put 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:53.520 us in the jungle. But but we can. Well you know, 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:55.920 I would just I would love coming to New York 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:59.400 and and and sitting in the studios and and and 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:02.520 listening to the vibes and listening to because out in 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:04.680 the West, you know, there's only a few cats that 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:07.480 are considered lyrical, you know what I'm saying, and so 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:13.040 yeah and so um, you know me feeling like I 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:16.040 wanted to be part of that. UM. I would always 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:18.680 seek out people that I felt lyrical as well. So 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:21.160 that's that's why I'm being accepted in New York was 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:24.120 so important. I remember going to New York and shooting 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:27.840 the I think you were there too, the greatest day 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:32.520 in hip hop that they had everybody, like everybody lined 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:36.200 up on the steps. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.040 really big deal for me. I got a lot of 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:42.360 respect for the DJs, the culture, the m c s, 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:45.079 you know, the breakdance and graffiti, everything that came from 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:46.400 New York. You know what I'm saying. You know what 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:48.840 the crazy ship is social me. If you'd have had 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:51.240 social media back then, you you wouldn't realize how much 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.760 of New York appreciated you more. That's the problem is 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:56.440 you can't find these people because back then there was 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:58.760 no way to get in. I knew. I knew because 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:00.960 I walked down the street and people tell me exactly, 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:05.840 and then people wasn't playing the records and exactly. It 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:07.679 was good, but y'all thought I was from there first. 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:11.880 I mean, there was like this legal from what you 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:20.160 were whole The whole crew was spitting speaking of LIX 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:22.559 because you gotta record with the albumhost. When you say 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:27.240 drinking a Henny is a gift, yeah, I could drink 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:29.600 a whole Hennessey filth. So I called out a problem, 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:31.640 but I call it a gift. We just want to 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:38.920 see you start that just wants alright, let me try 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:52.760 to see that. I'm not going a live let me 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:58.240 tell you alright, alright, only for you man, listen. But 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:01.719 when we go, would you it was a lot of alcoholic, 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:08.520 A lot of alcohol is And I said exactly, but 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:13.720 you enjoy yourself listen because I don't know if you know, 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:16.160 but we we celebrate people's careers over here. You got 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:19.680 a tip it when you do it. We celebrate people 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:21.960 to do over here. And for you standing the test 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:24.280 of time. A lot of people don't understand how hard 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:27.000 that is. Like you know, I respect these brothers with 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:29.800 these two year careers and one hit oneers and people. 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:31.800 I respect them to the same way because they can 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:34.560 feed their family. They can feed their family. But by dollar, 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:38.319 Dolly g I'm not respect. People have been out there 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:42.920 the years and they were trying to said you was 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:45.680 one of the first people, Like I'm gonna be honest, 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:50.880 you might have created love and hip hop. Now hit 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:54.800 me out. I know everybody like, what the funk? Hit 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:58.000 me out? Of anybody? You were the first rapper to 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:03.960 fun with reality and make it cool. Do that seed 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:08.720 kind of burped every other reality show after that for calls. 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:13.440 I think what we did pimps because Will and um 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:16.960 L L did it, but they didn't script this show. 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:21.040 You this is non script correct, absolutely, so um I 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:28.480 think you were like, yeah, so described to me because 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:31.840 you know you exhibit y'all here the West Coast and 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:34.160 these these people from MTV step to you or wasn't 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:36.280 a production company that steps to you prior? So it 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:40.560 was a production company. A gentleman named Rick Herbert's came 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:44.880 to me so rich. Yeah, he came to me and 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:46.560 was like, you know, I want to do this car 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:49.440 show because I was getting my cars actually done at 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:54.200 West Coast Customs. Whoa and so and so he and 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:57.080 I was just sitting around cracking jokes, making people laughing. 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:59.680 Ship and so he was like, you know, you'd be 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:03.040 a great host. I was like, fuck you, I'm not 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:06.400 gonna you know, there's nothing else compared. Yeah, there's nothing 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:11.960 compared to. So we literally we literally did the pilot 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:14.440 and and somebody one of the one of the camera 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:17.880 guys backyard. Uh, he had a friend at his We 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:20.840 literally put an air freshener and put some new hub 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:23.600 caps and watched the ship. That was like what we 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:26.640 did to the car. And so you know, he came 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:28.480 in and was like, oh, this is great. And I 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:30.840 was just working with them and making jokes about him 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:34.760 in his car and and so, uh, they took it 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:39.000 to MTV. They bought ten episodes, uh, and they put 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:41.760 us on at like eleven o'clock at night. The show 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:44.480 came on and then it just took off out of 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:46.760 the atmosphere and then we ended up being part of 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:50.280 Light next to the Aston Kuttrol Show, the Pump Show. 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:55.520 They packaged me with Punked and Bam uh and then 0:15:55.560 --> 0:16:00.520 it became yeah, and so that's when they really like 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:07.080 became like this international account your money right now. It 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:11.000 was seven seasons of that that that when they pulled 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:13.320 you together with that, that's when you knew your tax 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:20.440 bracket got different. No, it did not. It did not, 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:22.280 and I'm not gonna get into that because you know, 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:25.480 you know it. It turned out to be, you know, 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:27.880 a benefit of on my side anyway, you know what 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:32.240 I'm saying, because you like the exposure and the way 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:35.160 that I became a household name was it allowed me 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:38.240 to go in and start doing films and start doing 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.200 my own thing outside of what that is. Now. My 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:44.040 Ride was the catalyst for all of the car shows 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:46.440 that you see now. There was no other car show. 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:48.760 It was like, I don't think the speech chatnel had 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:52.520 even existed when we first came, so um, it was. 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:54.760 It was a lot that was going on with that show. 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:59.160 It first it started, like really, what people miss about 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:01.760 piping My Ride is that it wasn't about me. It 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:04.520 wasn't about the car. It wasn't even about the kid. 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:08.720 That's about wish fulfillment. It was about somebody wish fulfillment, 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:12.159 you know, like like people at home thinking that this 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:15.199 could happen to me, you know what I'm saying, And 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:18.320 so all right, and so people you don't like Jerry 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:20.760 Speaker was the opposite, like this is also this can happen. 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:24.399 Everybody has said, you know, if you don't have a 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:27.280 lot of money. Everybody has a shitty car. Everybody wishes 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:29.120 they could make it look better. I don't have enough 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:30.560 to get a new one, but I like what I have. 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:33.560 And so, you know, once it got away from that 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:36.960 and turned into okay, hold this bright can and look 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:40.800 this way and then put the videos, you know, games 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:42.720 up all the thing, I was like, where it's all 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:46.879 these checks going, you know, and then they hand me 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:49.960 my little my little fee for hosting, you know what 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.160 I'm saying, And it was like, yo, man, alright, cool, 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:55.800 so um, let me finish my thing. Because I'm a 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:58.240 man of my word. Always complete what I what I started, 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:00.600 you know what I'm saying. I always fulfill my going tracks. 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:04.200 And so once it was done, it was done, you 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:07.000 know what I'm saying. So um, I ended up going 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:10.320 and doing films and and and really like focusing on 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:13.840 my ship and that when I first did paid my ride, 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:16.880 I was kind of like nobody was talking to me, 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:20.119 like my peers and hip hop weren't didn't have an 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:22.520 opinion at the time, you know what I'm saying. Like 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:26.760 because because because as you said, this is something that 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:29.840 didn't exist before. So CATS was sitting back looking like, 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:32.600 what is this nag doing what I'm saying? It's just 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:36.080 gonna you know, so you can't high five unless you 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:38.359 know you're gonna win and you know what I'm saying. 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:42.399 And so, um, I felt like the show was taken 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:47.199 away my credibility of what I've had already done, you know. 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:51.040 And so because people, you know, I was I was 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:53.919 used to having cats like us walking up to me like, 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:55.560 hey man, you know what I'm saying, my nigga, you 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:58.040 know what I'm saying. But now I got soccer moms, 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:03.680 and I sat, K, do you hear my records and 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:08.760 what I'm talking about? And so and so then it 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:10.720 was kind of like a tough thing for me because 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:13.120 it would taking so much time. I wasn't able to tour, 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:16.639 I wasn't able to record albums. I was you know, 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:18.840 I was there film and film and film and filming. 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.560 So I didn't have time to put out how how 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:24.920 roughly like one season, how many weeks would it take? 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:27.600 I We'll see, that's the thing. Um, it would be 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:34.480 it's usually thirteen episodes in this perpien. But then somewhere 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:36.560 in the contract and the fine print, it's like Oh, 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:43.159 we're gonna do season. I'm saying thirteen, B and C, 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:45.840 and like, hey, hold on you extending the season is 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:47.680 what I was up in my ship, you know what 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:50.080 I'm saying. And so it was kind of like that's 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:52.320 the game that the Tug Award that was happening up 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:56.200 until they couldn't. So, like I hear most people would 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:59.840 love a hip hop and they'll say, you know what, Um, 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:01.280 I didn't make a lot of money, but I got 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:03.639 the exposure and the exposure was worth it. Is that 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:06.920 something that you you kind of relate to. That's what 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:11.240 I say to make myself sleep better at night. But no, 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:15.040 all jokes aside. Man, you know I love what my 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:17.159 right I did. Dude, I can go around the fucking 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:20.560 world and people recognize if they don't know me from 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:22.600 my music, if they don't know me from my uh 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:26.239 from my UM for my acting or whatever, then they 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:28.840 know me from that. And I'll take you the one 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:32.200 because as I'm matured, I figured out that that cue 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:35.119 raining is what's gonna dictate what you can and can't do, 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:38.200 because if you're putting assids in the seats, people recognize 0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:41.160 you face recognition, then you can work in this industry, 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:47.800 you know, let space some louist for that guy. So 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:52.000 what did it? Did it during the season of filment 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:55.680 of Pepper? I'm so sorry, dude. Was it ever not 0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:59.639 being fun when like before you you knew about the 0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:02.119 business part of you. No, I mean, even even when 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:06.480 the business was, was you know, not exciting? Um, I 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:11.119 think the only thing that because I mean people always 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:14.000 say you did some funked up ship to that car 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:16.320 and Pip my ride or whatever it was, or people 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:20.200 you know, like that the wild Ship. But I didn't 0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:22.160 do ship to the car. You know what I'm saying 0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:24.720 that I was, I was, I was in the beginning 0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:26.720 and at the end, you know what I'm saying. I 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:29.920 never fixed that right, right, But but I was the 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:32.640 face of the show. So so that ended up being 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:38.200 all of my ship, you know what I'm saying, all 0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:41.200 of it, you know. But you know, there was this 0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:44.040 thing that that happened that kind of you know, if 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:48.159 you remember, there was there was a switch of garages, 0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:50.640 you know, from West Coast Customs and it went over 0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:54.600 to a different garage, you know, And there was an 0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:57.520 instance where I bring that up because I was the 0:21:57.600 --> 0:22:00.320 face of the show. So one of the cars wasn't 0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:03.480 fixed correctly. And long story short, this kid was driving 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:05.680 this vehicle I was supposed to be like damn their 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:08.600 brand new and the steeringwell came off when he was 0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:11.040 you know, driving and ship he put it on the 0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:13.240 break and the ship swore to the side. He was 0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:17.119 able to get out of traffic. Right. So imagine if 0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:18.840 that ship would have killed him. You know what I'm saying, 0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:21.000 would be the face of that too, you know, So 0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:23.600 be careful what you ally yourself with and what you 0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:25.760 you know it. You know, it may be huge, it 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:28.320 may be great, but at the same time, you gotta 0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:30.920 be be careful of of of who you are, what 0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:34.000 you represent to that brand. How many other shows have 0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:38.080 tried to came at you and uh to replicate everybody 0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:41.199 every time and everybody you know, and then and then 0:22:41.400 --> 0:22:44.520 and then. The thing is is everybody wants to pitch 0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:48.400 these ideas, and everybody wants to, you know, um uh 0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:50.840 talk about this new It's not like painting my ride, 0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:58.840 but it's you're gonna be with the car. But but 0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:01.760 I mean it's like, wanta do we we? We had 0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:04.320 lightning in the bottle. It was great. I'm glad we 0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:07.800 were the first, and I'm gonna leave it there. Man, 0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:09.760 you don't you don't go backwards. You are you ever 0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:13.360 gonna do it reality TV again? At this point, I'm 0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:17.760 gonna say no, Yeah, it wasn't because of the experience 0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:20.800 was bad or because it's just no. I just enjoyed 0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:23.520 doing scripted better. You know. I enjoyed being on the sets. 0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:27.120 I enjoyed learning. I'm starting to enjoy directing as well. 0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:31.080 You know. So I started doing, um, my own stuff, 0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:33.160 you know what I'm saying. I started directing my own 0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:36.520 films and my own shorts, and we were very proud 0:23:36.560 --> 0:23:39.000 of what'll be done. Let's make some nooy of that. 0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:46.480 Because I googled that, I got two different things right there. 0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:49.880 One set you born in Detroit, yes, and another said 0:23:49.960 --> 0:23:53.200 he was born in New Mexico. Yes, but you're born 0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:58.040 I know what it says on the internet, but let 0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:02.720 me let me cli. I was born in Detroit, Michigan, 0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:15.240 in September eighteenth, ninety four. Yeah. So, um, my mother 0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:18.160 passed away when I was nine, and my dad got remarried. 0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:23.920 Uh and his wife wanted to live in Albuquerque, New Mexico. 0:24:24.560 --> 0:24:27.840 So at nine, ten years old, I moved out there 0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:31.520 with my new family. Um, and then after I did 0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:34.240 like I did, I did, I did seven years. It 0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:37.440 felt like jail, but I was in said, I was 0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:39.680 in there for seven years in Albuquerque, and then I 0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:42.800 went to California. So there's a lot of people because 0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:45.480 I went to high school in Albuquerque or all of 0:24:45.520 --> 0:24:47.720 the high schools that got successfully kicked out of all 0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:52.959 of motherfucker's. But I went to Albuquerque. Um, like all 0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:55.240 the high schools got you know, in a bunch of trouble, 0:24:55.600 --> 0:24:57.760 had a lot of you know difficulty out there. I 0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:00.320 was angry that my mother had died. I was, you know, 0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:03.040 I was, I was, I was, you know, in this 0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:05.879 forcing this new family. My dad got made married like 0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:09.120 maybe two three months after my mom passed away. Uh 0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:13.520 and uh. And I just was in a really tough spot. 0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:17.760 And so when I went to California, I ended up, 0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:22.000 you know, going by myself. At seventeen. Absolutely I was 0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:26.280 selling crack. So I was serving and out there and 0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:28.680 it's a small town and you know, we was, you know, 0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:32.600 fifteen sixteen driving around and go BMW would go Daton's 0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:35.280 and you know, like it's like the cops knew exactly 0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:39.520 who we were. It's only five black people there at 0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:42.760 the time, so it was crazy. And so you know, 0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:44.920 there were some things. You know, there was a murder 0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:46.879 that happened. There was a whole bunch of ship in 0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:50.359 the street, and I was like, you know, um, I 0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:52.760 told my dad that at the time resident you know, 0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:54.879 my dad just passed away as well, you know, so 0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:59.080 uh I told my dad. I was like, if I 0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:01.480 don't get out of here, then I'm gonna die. So 0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:04.359 you know, I'm gonna go to California and see what 0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:07.240 I can do with this music. Um. And at the 0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:09.639 time I was, I was rapping, but it was kind 0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:11.560 of like it's it's like a hobby. I would I 0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:14.760 would go to like Ku and them and go wrapping 0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:17.320 a little the only rapp show they had, and it 0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:19.840 was like on the university campus. I was wrapping under 0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:24.119 Exhibit eight. And so I left the seventeen, went to 0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:27.600 California and ended up you know, just meeting up with 0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:31.800 three sixty, which was a production crew James Broadway, and 0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:34.240 then I got with King T. He introduced me to 0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:38.160 the alcoholics and so on. The yeah, like that that's 0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:41.840 how it was formed and and and um, so what 0:26:42.200 --> 0:26:46.080 made you start rapping? Because I loved it. Man. You know, 0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:48.800 my parents were very religious. They never let me listen 0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:51.639 to hip hop. UM, so I had to get it 0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:53.840 where I could. I used to, you know, have a 0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:56.600 little Sony Walkman that I scavengered up, and when I 0:26:56.680 --> 0:26:59.080 went to school, I would get tapes from my homies 0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:01.200 and I would listen to it there. Then I started 0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:03.840 taking it home and then they found the ship broke 0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:06.920 the ship every time they found some ship from hip hop, tape, CDs, 0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:11.639 anything ship, the early influences. But I bought everything. I 0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:16.560 bought everything from DJ Magic Mike, from from Miami. Yeah, 0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:20.240 the bass music. I listened to the Two Live Crew 0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:23.000 I listened to I listened to UM. I listened to 0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:27.680 rock Him, Big Daddy Came, I listened to UM, just Ice, 0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:30.280 I listened to All I Got. I remember listening to 0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:33.600 the Tommy Boy. Um. What do you think that that? 0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:35.800 That that first tape they came out with with the 0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:39.280 guys breaking on the front. Oh, I remember. I mean 0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:41.520 I listened to everything. I wasn't reaching a lo at 0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:43.400 the time because I just loved it. But I felt 0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:45.000 when I've got my hands on the d O C 0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:50.240 H C D. Yeah, the DC is my favorite rapper period. 0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:55.480 Yeah yeah yeah, so um, you know I started listening 0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:57.879 to like that and then when they found them, they 0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:00.360 would just confiscate or break everything, and so I ended 0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:07.840 up writing my own brahms, my own brahms and yeah yeah, 0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:10.440 so you know what I'm saying, well I am um 0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:14.240 yeah yeah yeah. Before all those cash, we used to 0:28:14.320 --> 0:28:16.760 all be in this club called Unity and so we 0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:19.399 that was where like the rappers were coming from. The 0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:24.040 project Blow was like another style of another side that 0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:27.240 was doing the same thing, you know, coming up, and 0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:30.320 so there was like this real, like real live, vibrant 0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:34.240 underground hip hop scene in Los Angeles. And so um, 0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:40.040 once Snoop went from Death Row over to UM Masterpiece 0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:45.320 like the No Limit, Um, you know, we had had interaction. 0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:48.480 I was cool with Snoop UM and he called me 0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:51.720 and he was like, yo, you know we we're working 0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:53.360 on this album. I want you to come get down. 0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:55.720 I think Dr dra gonna do to be Is it 0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:57.600 cool if you call you? It's like yeah, it's not 0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:03.040 please and so so um, as you said, it came 0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:10.400 yeah yeah. So so then UM, a couple of minutes 0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:12.680 later Drake called me. He telled me, you know, he 0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:15.160 had echo sound you want to come through you know 0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:19.040 see what you got. I think, I just I think 0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:20.520 the phone was still in the air, and when I 0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:24.560 was already out the door, I was already moving, and 0:29:24.640 --> 0:29:28.240 so I ended up going to the studio. Uh. It 0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:31.640 took me about fifteen minutes to write that, and then um, 0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:34.280 I laid it and then I shook his hand and 0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:37.680 I thank you for the opportunity. I didn't ask for 0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:39.960 the who I should sit in the invoice too. I 0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:42.800 didn't ask, you know what the publisher. And this year, 0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:44.800 I didn't ask what the split. I didn't give fun 0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:48.640 Thank you Dr Dre. I appreciate it. Yeah, he said 0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:51.960 it was for top Dog. Yeah for for for Snoop's album. 0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:56.520 Thank you for the opportunity. Boom. Uh. Like a week later, 0:29:57.040 --> 0:29:58.960 you know, a couple of weeks later, Snoop called meies 0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:01.840 like a nephew. You know, we're using that as a single. 0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:06.440 But I was like, my life is about to change, 0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:08.840 ensure enough from you know, from that that was like, 0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:11.720 you know, you know, as an underground cat, you know, 0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:16.160 being on MTV, you know, and and and being pushed 0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:18.400 across that platform at the time, it's huge. There was 0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:21.520 no you know, online ship that could really like pump 0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:23.120 it to where it was. It was like the video 0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:26.040 shows and the DJs were making this work. And so 0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:28.200 that was my first time really on that type of 0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:31.560 you know, top ten, top billboard, you know, all kinds 0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:35.840 of ship. And then Dre started being you know, interested 0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:39.120 in what I was doing, and so I never once 0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:41.840 asked Dr Dre to pay me for anything that we 0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:44.200 did together because I was already on Loud, I was 0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:46.840 already on Columbia. You know, it's like they should be 0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:50.920 paying you, you know what I'm saying. And so, um, 0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:55.920 then that opportunity led to uh me being they being 0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:59.160 invited to be on his record, you know, and then um, 0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:01.720 what was this in the first one that you're working 0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:06.480 on with him? Um that was the Chronic two thousand one. Yeah, 0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:14.200 uh and so every yeah yeah. So so you know 0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:16.200 he called me in to be you know, on the 0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:20.160 on the two thousand one, and then we ended up 0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:23.040 going on the Up and Smoke Tour and that that 0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:25.280 was it. Man, it was like it went up another level, 0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:28.400 you know, and man, that was that was a very 0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:33.720 pivotal point in my career and um, oh, how was 0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:36.560 it just being around that just the environment, because, like 0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:43.240 you said, you went on the tour. It was fucking crazy, man, crazy, 0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:45.440 this is this is this is hip hop and roll. 0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:47.959 This is like okay, dude. I went from looking at 0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:50.720 these guys and reading their reading the credits on their 0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:53.760 their projects to being in the studio and on tour 0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:57.160 buses and behind you know, stages and you know, in 0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:59.920 prayer circles and getting ready to go hit the stage 0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:03.480 and you know, like these this was a real like 0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:13.840 dream come true for me. It was crazy. It was 0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:17.880 that the upper spoke to. Yeah, it was crazy. It 0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:22.480 was crazy, dude. It was like the people that showed 0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:25.840 up to that tour, um, they saw a piece of 0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:28.600 history that I don't know it's ever gonna be repeated. 0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:32.840 You know. To have that many stars at that at 0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:37.280 that time on one bill and have no hiccups and 0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:40.720 get to it all forty forty shows and and and 0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:44.400 then get back and and really become friends and family 0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:47.560 and then continue on. That was incredible. Man. You know, 0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:49.680 I definitely cut my teeth on that tour. I had 0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:53.240 been on tours before, but nothing like that. You know. Now, 0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:58.040 one of fifties famous records. He said, spoken all that, 0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:02.080 did you do you think fifthy was gonna be as 0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:10.720 big as fifty years. I remember Eminem playing before a show. 0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:14.680 He called me in the room and he played kill Me. 0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:18.920 He played, he played fifties music, and it was like, 0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:25.520 I think I'm gonna sign him. Yeah, California, No, he was, 0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:27.400 I think he was. He was on the road. He was, 0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:29.400 actually he was on up a smoke. Remember what he 0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:31.160 played you was one of the mix tapes. I think 0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:33.200 it was a mixtape. Yeah, it was the one where 0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:34.920 it's kind of the black and white cover and he 0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:38.320 has the he got the hat on the bulletproof vest. Well, 0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:43.200 he always has on the bulletproof but I think it 0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:46.200 was like one of his first, first first joints. And 0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:48.680 then I listened to it, I was like, oh, ship 0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:51.400 should be crazy because you can hear it in the 0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:55.760 music and now um at the music. I was amazed. 0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:58.720 But to see what he's done with not only his 0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:04.000 TV prey is uh and his production and it's just business. 0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:07.960 His his business and branding is and his trolling is 0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:12.600 right up there. That's part of the marketing services. But 0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:16.520 I'm not surprised that fifty is as big as he is. 0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:18.360 You know what I'm saying, Are you in the studio 0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:23.439 when he quoted that, he just he just shot me out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:27.400 I think. I think Tracy, Tracy over at the Shady 0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:29.520 Camp actually is the first one that told me and 0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:31.719 he did it and I was like what and then 0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:33.839 you know, it's like they called me to the video 0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:44.600 and history. Let's make a look. Is this is this 0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:49.400 a type of ball time? I think it's this is 0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:51.640 this is a part of the show. It's a little weird, 0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:54.480 it's a little a great because we gotta listen. We 0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:58.239 celebrate your life, appreciate, thank you. Let me just tell 0:34:58.280 --> 0:34:59.919 you something. This is what I hate in the game. 0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:02.400 So many people want to celebrate you. If you're gone, 0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:05.240 you know, let's not go on what or something happened 0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:07.200 to you. People say how Greek this guy he is? 0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:09.120 And why I can't say that to you right now? 0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:13.440 Absolutely wise. And let's what I say our culture. And 0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:15.040 when I say our culture, I don't want it to 0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:17.400 be racial because it's not just black. And you know, 0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:19.840 I'm talking about our culture period, like m she searched 0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:22.560 he's white and we should be praising him he's got 0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:26.120 what we should be great, and I want to keep 0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:28.839 continuing to do that. Like I want our culture meeting 0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:31.680 hip hop. Let's let's let's pig each other up. For 0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:34.960 for instance, it's it's we've been through all of that. 0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:37.359 You know, heard this guy, heard this ship, We've done 0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:40.040 that already that let's go forward. Yeah, let's move forward. 0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:45.439 And I I, for one, I've seen I've seen your career. 0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:49.000 I've seen what was the album dropping ninety eight? Uh, 0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:51.760 there was at the Speed of Life in the forty 0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:54.600 days forty nights, and you know I dropped in like that. 0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:58.880 So I understand, you know, you know I see and 0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:01.879 and and it should be celebrated. You know what I'm saying, 0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:05.040 Like hip hop were superheroes about. You know, I'm saying 0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:06.600 some of us don't wear a cake, some of us 0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:14.680 do that. Not a kid, yea, heroes don't wear a cap. 0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:16.759 You know what I'm saying. What the fund is this? Yea? 0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:20.719 Looking to the What the fucking I see you're trying 0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:26.719 to slide this it on me? Right? Any of those 0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:32.879 it's called tag it's a drink Champions edition. Alright, sal 0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:51.000 ain't that bad? I think he's gonna say that it's 0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:56.000 the list, right. So on the Upper Sloop Tour, that's 0:36:56.040 --> 0:36:59.360 a certain part where you just take a bottle. You 0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:02.880 used to do for real, man, I used to do 0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:09.240 a lot of ships that you said, you that probably 0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:14.000 part of you say. I used to do a lot 0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:18.160 of ship that you know, it's not you know, good 0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:22.520 for me, And so I had to h really evaluate 0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:25.719 what was happening and kind of like, you know, I 0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:28.279 don't know if it's called getting old and maturing or 0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:30.239 whatever you want to call it, but I look at 0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:34.719 other people and I don't have to learn, you know, 0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:37.760 by doing the same thing. I can look at somebody 0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:39.200 and know like, oh I don't want to do that 0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:41.920 what I'm saying, or man, that didn't paying out the 0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:44.279 way they thought it was, and take that and use 0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:47.800 it in my my my navigation. So you know, I 0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:50.680 feel good about, you know, what I've done. I mean, 0:37:50.760 --> 0:37:53.040 have no regrets what I've done in hip hop. But 0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:55.040 I don't do none of that ship like I used to. 0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:59.080 You know, I'm running. I'm running, I'm running businesses, family, 0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:01.839 you know, I have things that are that are very 0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:05.200 very important to me, and so I know what that 0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:07.080 feels like, I know what it feels like to have 0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:09.480 unlimited alcohol. I know what it feels like to be 0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:12.319 able to roll pounds of weed all day every day. 0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:14.759 I know what that feels like. But I've never had 0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:17.040 a billion dollars, you know what I'm saying. I've never 0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:20.480 had hundreds of millions of dollars um. Not that, not 0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:24.320 that even material is the is the goal. It's like, 0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:27.279 how hard can I push my success? How hard can 0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:28.920 I get to where I want to go so I 0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:30.680 can turn around to help the people I want to 0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:34.000 help instead of seeing everybody get help, you know, and 0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:36.680 and and and pull their other homeboys out and be 0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:38.600 able to laugh at the cats that that ain't in 0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:41.479 their click. I want to take care of my people 0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:43.759 the same way, you know. So that's what that's what 0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:47.680 motivates me to become more and to not listen to 0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:49.759 the people that have negative ships to say. But have 0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:51.880 you know that I take care of people that that 0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:54.320 that want to be in my circle, you know, And 0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:56.719 that's easier than dealing with people that ain't and ever 0:38:56.840 --> 0:38:59.040 gonna be convinced, you know? Now? You know what I 0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:01.040 always say, I say old when you celebrate it and 0:39:01.160 --> 0:39:04.160 not tolerate. Yeah exactly. Hell yeah, this is where people 0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:06.880 want wanted you to be there. Like a lot of us, 0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:09.239 we be we want to be accepted in places we 0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:12.320 shouldn't even care. Yeah yeah, I don't care, because it 0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:15.520 may be it may be some light over there that 0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:18.279 you think somebody else is getting in. You admire the 0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:22.600 sparkly ship or whatever. But oh man, the people that 0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:25.399 I've expected to be in my corner and be part 0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:29.080 of my success never were. It was the people that 0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:32.200 you know, we're sitting there with me when it wasn't glamorous, 0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:35.400 and then you can see the excitement when something happened 0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:37.520 for me, even if it wasn't that big, if if 0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:40.440 it was just something like they was genuine. You know 0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:42.520 what I'm saying that. So that's where I'm at with it. Man. 0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:44.600 I I used to want to be I want to 0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:46.880 be accepted. I want to be fitting. I want to 0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:48.640 I want to be around these guys. I want to 0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:50.840 be in this circle. I don't give a funk about 0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:53.200 that ship. You know what I'm saying, because it means 0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:55.759 nothing because even when you get there, you find out 0:39:55.840 --> 0:40:00.480 that the niggas don't like each other either. Know, it's 0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:05.440 like the side. I thought you guys were teamed, but 0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:08.160 they don't work like that, you know, and so you 0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:12.000 better off making the people. That's what you now, the people, 0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:14.759 that's what you then, you know? Do you just wait? 0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:16.600 Hold on? Sorry? Do you still wrote with the producer 0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:20.799 that did Paparazzi DJ at one point? No? They they 0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:24.960 I did the track for proper Rozzi. He's l a producer. UM, 0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:29.160 I see him, but we haven't done any music together. 0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:31.520 Do you remember the first time you came to Miami, 0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:33.880 or at least the first time? I thinking listen, he remembers. 0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:38.520 I don't remember the first time, probably going through a lot, 0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:46.120 but what happened here? He can't he can't to win with. Actually, 0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:48.560 before when it was popping, it was the hood it 0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:56.520 was hood Stock. Paparazzi was out just release. Yes, and 0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:59.280 we saw you, my crew saw you, and we recognize 0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:02.560 you and you were just hyped to be recognized because 0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:04.880 you just had a vinyl single years out like that. 0:41:05.840 --> 0:41:08.239 And then you said I need to be in Winwood 0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:10.359 at this spot called hood Stock. We were in the beach. 0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:13.800 It was how can I be down? Yes? Uh? And 0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:15.200 you told me to do that was with you was 0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:19.120 either DJ or the producer of Paparazzi, and I said, yeah, 0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:21.480 I'll take you, Okay, I don't know, let's go at 0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:23.600 my pathfinder and you didn't want. We didn't have room 0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:29.600 because I had my crew be path find my thing too. 0:41:31.239 --> 0:41:33.480 And then so this boy wouldn't sit in the back 0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:35.759 of the trunk because we wasn't my crew. We you know, 0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:38.560 we in our seats already. But he said, I'll jump 0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:41.680 in the luggage area, no problem. And I just remember 0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:44.520 him with he had an Echo canteen with jin and 0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:48.120 juice in it. And we passed up. We pulled up, 0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:50.400 we pulled up to the hood stock. We got to 0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:52.279 the wrong area. So it's just a fence. We just 0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:56.719 echo to Mark Echo Yeah. And MLP was performing on 0:41:56.840 --> 0:42:00.680 stage with Heather be And then we start climbing because 0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:02.080 there was no way to get into it. We start 0:42:02.120 --> 0:42:03.960 climbing a fence. I don't know none of this. I'm 0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:10.360 that kick at this point and were locally people They're like, 0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:17.880 you know, that's crazy. Climbers and existed went on. There 0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:19.400 was some chaos on the show. I just said, just 0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:26.000 a crazy man. Damn the can about to bring it 0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:39.279 up and what the fun he was wading out. I'm 0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:41.520 telling you, man, like I'm saying man, we had a 0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:44.120 lot of fun. Man, we had a lot of fun 0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:46.920 with that. We we did not let off the gas whatsoever, 0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:50.080 you know, and we have fun with it. Man. But 0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:54.480 I think, you know, me looking back at that time 0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:56.560 and seeing I did exactly what the funk I was 0:42:56.560 --> 0:42:59.120 supposed to do. I was young, I was a teenager. 0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:02.400 I was you know, I had a record out. You know, 0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:05.480 I had come from the most shittiest ship show you 0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:08.680 can think of, and I was having fun, man, And 0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:12.040 I just think I'm just thankful for the experience. I've 0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:14.440 had a thankful you know, for people that that but 0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:17.440 understand me and and have those members can remember that 0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:26.160 ship for me because God knows. But I'm glad. Man. 0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:29.399 It's like, you know, we didn't have social media back then. 0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:31.440 Like now you can turn on your cell phone and 0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:34.520 you can record the memories that you know it's gonna 0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:37.160 mean something other people are gonna see it. But we 0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:39.640 have that up here. Man. It's like we got pictures 0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:43.760 here and there of moments, but that that time, that energy, 0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:47.320 I don't know, man, it feels really special to me. Special, 0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:53.719 special now two thousand Dr Dre exactly produced album. Now 0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:56.920 other people get a beat from Dr Dre, you might 0:43:57.200 --> 0:44:03.400 get a purse something. I'm an athlete, not when people 0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:08.680 get saying right right, and not not on interscope or aftermath. 0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:14.360 If you're not on after math, you did this on loud. 0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:26.960 How did you do you had no actually actually, actually 0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:29.680 that question takes us back to the top of the conversation. 0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:33.239 After we had did what you see is what you get. 0:44:33.760 --> 0:44:36.799 Louds say go back and make another album. They didn't 0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:41.560 want to film another video, and bitch, please hadn't come 0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:44.640 out yet. Um, and oh no, it had come out, 0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:48.160 and that's why I got so mad. Okay, so I 0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:52.240 got extremely pissed, and so Steve Rifkin was, you know, saying, 0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:54.719 you know, yeah it was good, but now imagine if 0:44:54.760 --> 0:44:56.320 you come out with more music. I was like, you 0:44:56.400 --> 0:45:00.440 didn't even promote the music that we just put out. So, um, 0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:04.600 I got pissed, and I just left on tour and 0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:07.920 I didn't want to do an album. I just refused 0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:11.879 to budget. And so Steve Ripkin shout out Steve Ripke, 0:45:11.920 --> 0:45:13.600 and I love you, man, but I'm just telling the truth, 0:45:15.920 --> 0:45:19.120 you know, Steve you know. Uh, Steve tried to show 0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:21.279 up to the first Up and Smoke show and was 0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:25.480 turned away at the gate because uh they were and 0:45:25.560 --> 0:45:27.840 they asked me, and I felt like, why should you 0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:31.120 be able to benefit off something that you had nothing 0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:33.640 to do with? This relationship that I built with Dr 0:45:33.760 --> 0:45:37.640 Dre and Snoop and all these guys is on my accord. 0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:41.080 And so then it was like, UM, you know, okay, 0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:44.640 so I'm just gonna go. And even though it would 0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:47.520 be so opportune for me to record an album, you 0:45:47.560 --> 0:45:49.080 know what I'm saying. I know you you're not gonna 0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:51.319 do right by it, you know, So I just went 0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:54.200 and started working. Everybody thought it was on Aftermath. Everybody 0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:58.359 thought I was on Interscope. Uh. And so then, um, 0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:02.759 ray knew what I was going through, you know. Uh, 0:46:03.560 --> 0:46:08.759 but that's about it. And so afterwards, um uh at 0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:11.040 the end of the like halfway midway through the tour, 0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:16.800 Dre and Um and Jimmy called Steve in and asked, Okay, 0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:19.759 so we love exhibit, we love what's going on with 0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:22.839 his career, and we love you know, working with him. 0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:25.520 We know you know you you brought him to this point. 0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:28.080 How can we get him over here with us to 0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:34.879 you know, be with us. And Steve said he wrote 0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:37.240 a number on a piece of paper that Jimmy Ivan 0:46:37.400 --> 0:46:41.640 was like really, so it kind of combossed it and 0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:45.280 I was I was I felt like Steve was trying 0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:48.480 to fuck my ship up, you know what I'm saying. Like, 0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:51.320 and I was like, yo, man, um, then he's like 0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:53.880 you like my son. You know I started with you, 0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:55.880 We're gonna do this thing together. I was like, bro, 0:46:56.000 --> 0:46:57.640 you don't even want to film a video where we 0:46:58.120 --> 0:47:00.560 had the number one ship across all I hop, like, 0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:03.080 what are you talking about? So I was at odds 0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:08.000 with the label and so um. Then when we finished 0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:11.760 the tour, uh, he was like, let's go do a record, 0:47:11.920 --> 0:47:14.400 Let's do this whatever. I was like, yeah, Steve's like 0:47:14.480 --> 0:47:17.640 doing what. I was like, Um, I'm only gonna do 0:47:17.719 --> 0:47:20.480 it if you take care of Dr Dre and Dr 0:47:20.600 --> 0:47:22.920 Dre was like, you're gonna pay me this and then 0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:25.200 we're gonna do this, you know what I'm saying. And 0:47:25.280 --> 0:47:27.800 then we're gonna we're gonna get it done. You know. 0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:30.080 But I don't want this money to come from exist, 0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:34.800 but I wanted to come from you, said Jesus, and 0:47:35.520 --> 0:47:44.440 that's why the record is ours. You know, Dre. Dre 0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:48.279 has always been one hundred thousand percent with me, and 0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:52.719 I will never say anything derogatory or negative about him. 0:47:52.880 --> 0:47:55.000 I will always be by his side. I was always 0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:56.680 bride with him. You know what I'm saying, that's that's 0:47:56.719 --> 0:47:58.959 my nigger. He's my friend. You know what I'm saying, 0:47:59.000 --> 0:48:01.600 He's my mentor. He made. He made a lot of 0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:04.080 things happen in my career that I never thought would happen. 0:48:04.560 --> 0:48:07.080 So you know, and and and we still to this day. 0:48:07.120 --> 0:48:09.279 You know what I'm saying, have a report that you know, 0:48:09.400 --> 0:48:11.160 we can sit in the room and topic just like this. 0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:14.160 You know, I'm some real ship and all you involved 0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:16.680 with the pharmacy? Is that true? Right now? We're in 0:48:16.719 --> 0:48:19.600 a hiatus. I think everybody has other stuff to do. Um. 0:48:19.719 --> 0:48:23.560 I think the I think the Anderson Pack program, and 0:48:23.680 --> 0:48:25.279 you know what I'm saying, it's definitely doing what it 0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:28.560 has to do. Congratulations to Andy. You know he over there, 0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:34.440 he killed it him in Noble Yeah. I love his 0:48:34.719 --> 0:48:37.319 I love his new record. Uh and and so that's 0:48:37.360 --> 0:48:39.399 what they're doing. Beach One is still going strong, shout 0:48:39.520 --> 0:48:42.239 and saying low. Uh, you know Eddie and and and 0:48:42.920 --> 0:48:44.920 Johnny all the people over there at the pharmacy. So 0:48:45.360 --> 0:48:47.000 right now, if they bring it back on the air, 0:48:47.080 --> 0:48:49.560 you know, I'm gonna be right there. Okay, man, So 0:48:49.680 --> 0:48:53.120 what what what? What? What? What was it wrong? I 0:48:53.440 --> 0:49:02.560 produced the whole shows, they said, was the executive. God. 0:49:03.320 --> 0:49:06.439 Now I'm so, um, let me ask you, so, let's 0:49:06.440 --> 0:49:08.920 get let's go into California for a little bit. Because 0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:11.880 if you're in New York, you gotta be involved with uh, 0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:14.640 you know, you gotta be like a five center. You're 0:49:14.640 --> 0:49:19.560 gonna be a Muslim. You know what I'm saying. Nowadays, 0:49:19.800 --> 0:49:23.040 you gotta be a blood or crypt at all started 0:49:23.040 --> 0:49:27.040 from California gang rules, you know, um, which is crazy 0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:30.399 because it's like, you know, hip hop, Like we gave 0:49:30.480 --> 0:49:32.560 y'all hip hop, and y'all gave us gang culture. Now 0:49:34.280 --> 0:49:37.160 now it's real gang cloking, Like it's actually places where 0:49:37.200 --> 0:49:39.560 you go and you could actually tell that this is 0:49:39.640 --> 0:49:42.400 all all blood section and this is all a crypt 0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:45.080 section from the same thing that I used to go 0:49:45.480 --> 0:49:48.799 to your neighborhood. You see, it wasn't there before. I'm 0:49:48.880 --> 0:49:50.320 not not in New York, not in New York, not 0:49:50.400 --> 0:49:53.640 in New York. So what what what? What? What do 0:49:53.719 --> 0:49:58.000 you think about that? Like, what's your opinion? I think, 0:49:58.200 --> 0:50:01.800 how gang good? You just explode everywhere. I think, you know, 0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:07.239 the dynamics of game banging in Los Angeles are very complex. Um. 0:50:07.640 --> 0:50:10.600 I came in when I was a teenager. Um, I 0:50:10.760 --> 0:50:13.120 hang around a lot of crips. You know what I'm saying. 0:50:13.160 --> 0:50:17.759 I have a lot of blood friends, but mostly I 0:50:17.880 --> 0:50:21.080 hang out with a lot of crips. And um, I 0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:28.960 see how I go outfit like you. But I don't 0:50:29.000 --> 0:50:31.600 think you ever had a red outfit, you know, I mean, 0:50:31.760 --> 0:50:41.960 but I mean no, no, you good? Yeah, but you 0:50:42.080 --> 0:50:45.759 know I never, I never, you know, claimed the neighborhood. 0:50:46.280 --> 0:50:48.040 You know what I'm saying. I hung out with a 0:50:48.120 --> 0:50:51.719 lot of cats and Venice Venice Shoreline is you know, 0:50:51.840 --> 0:50:53.959 That's why I was hanging out. But you know, coming 0:50:54.040 --> 0:50:56.160 from where I was coming from and being around that 0:50:56.239 --> 0:50:58.399 because I was there was there was crips that will 0:50:58.480 --> 0:51:01.479 come to Albuquerque to get weight, you know what I'm saying, 0:51:01.520 --> 0:51:04.240 from California because it's right there next to the border, 0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:07.000 right and so I would be able to come to 0:51:07.280 --> 0:51:09.759 l A and already having affiliation with people that I 0:51:09.880 --> 0:51:14.080 met doing that, and so that's when I got to 0:51:14.360 --> 0:51:16.640 l A. I was you know, I was embraced by 0:51:16.719 --> 0:51:19.960 these cats and you know, they had an apartment and 0:51:20.040 --> 0:51:22.160 then you know, I ended up you know, that's where 0:51:22.160 --> 0:51:24.440 I met my my first son's mother, you know what 0:51:24.480 --> 0:51:28.800 I'm saying, and so um, from there it was it 0:51:28.920 --> 0:51:31.479 was like I wanted to be all in. It was like, nah, 0:51:32.719 --> 0:51:35.520 you're going to do this music ship because you're good 0:51:35.560 --> 0:51:39.480 at it. So you can't say no way with us. 0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:43.000 You can't run no missions with us. You can't do 0:51:43.120 --> 0:51:45.360 all that ship and then show me what you wrote today, 0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:49.560 you know what I'm saying. And so that's kind of 0:51:49.680 --> 0:51:52.920 like how I viewed it, and that's how I saw it, 0:51:52.960 --> 0:51:56.000 and that's my my my view of where it was now. 0:51:56.080 --> 0:51:59.040 When it started traveling, there were no bloods and crypts 0:51:59.040 --> 0:52:02.520 in New York. When first one to New York, there 0:52:02.600 --> 0:52:06.279 were no neighborhoods like that. There wasn't no niggas that 0:52:06.600 --> 0:52:09.040 even knew. They thought it was silly. They usually get 0:52:09.160 --> 0:52:11.560 mad at us, even on records, like I remember, like, 0:52:11.719 --> 0:52:14.440 you know, it was like a thing to work about. 0:52:14.480 --> 0:52:17.320 How whack the West Coast niggas was for cursing and 0:52:17.480 --> 0:52:23.239 gang banging and black black sheet, Black Sheet, listen to 0:52:23.320 --> 0:52:25.640 black Sheet. What I'm saying that they had like the 0:52:25.760 --> 0:52:29.279 skit where it's like a real like fucking gang bang 0:52:29.280 --> 0:52:31.800 in his wag calling bitches and the bitches is whack. 0:52:34.080 --> 0:52:35.759 They could have meant that about New York because remember 0:52:35.800 --> 0:52:38.120 we had zood re lation in New York. It probably 0:52:38.200 --> 0:52:40.719 wasn't as powerful as Bloods and crypt but it was 0:52:40.960 --> 0:52:44.200 considered the gang we have five, so it was more 0:52:44.239 --> 0:52:48.040 about that West Coast. Let me just just say that, No, 0:52:48.120 --> 0:52:51.480 I understood, understood. Now, I'm not taking the skit. That's 0:52:51.480 --> 0:52:55.360 what I'm saying, Like, I'm just saying that he's talking 0:52:55.400 --> 0:53:04.279 about that origin. He talk about the origins too bread. 0:53:04.480 --> 0:53:16.480 I'm just gonna shut up. No. But but but then 0:53:16.719 --> 0:53:20.000 you know, then when it first started, I gotta admit, man, 0:53:20.080 --> 0:53:23.799 it just like you gotta be kidding me. You can't. Yeah, 0:53:23.920 --> 0:53:27.160 you can't have bloods and cribs in New York. It's 0:53:27.200 --> 0:53:31.719 just not supposed to happen. Ain't supposed to happen. But 0:53:31.920 --> 0:53:36.080 then as you know, because it's not, that's like saying, 0:53:37.160 --> 0:53:39.960 you know, I know, I know, but befollow me. So 0:53:40.560 --> 0:53:44.080 in that world, as that world operates, it's casts coming 0:53:44.080 --> 0:53:47.640 from l A to New York and they're going into 0:53:47.680 --> 0:53:50.880 the jail system and they and they and they surround 0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:54.200 it and they and they spread the world, and the 0:53:54.280 --> 0:53:56.839 word gets spread, and now it's neighborhoods in New York 0:53:56.880 --> 0:54:01.440 because who's to tell this kid from brook that went 0:54:01.520 --> 0:54:04.840 to jail and bang the ship in jail that he 0:54:05.040 --> 0:54:08.120 can't come outside and do it even though he never 0:54:08.200 --> 0:54:11.040 stepped foot in Los Angeles, and except that he's actually 0:54:11.080 --> 0:54:14.800 claiming right like hell, at this point, it would be 0:54:14.800 --> 0:54:18.520 a great nut crip in New York. You said great 0:54:18.640 --> 0:54:30.600 nun like grape streets, great grape streets. You said a 0:54:30.640 --> 0:54:36.719 great grape nut. What I mean, like a great great street. 0:54:38.160 --> 0:54:41.080 You know what I'm saying. So if a person bang 0:54:41.440 --> 0:54:47.080 Grape Street and his phone, uh Harlem, it's kind of 0:54:47.160 --> 0:54:53.120 crazy because he's that's not where they're from. The fall 0:54:53.280 --> 0:54:57.480 Sometimes sometimes they sometimes sometimes it is because they followed 0:54:57.480 --> 0:55:00.560 the O G set, you understand. So they'll say, so, 0:55:00.640 --> 0:55:04.000 I don't know how it works, like do to put 0:55:04.040 --> 0:55:07.000 them on? And you know, I'm just saying, let's suppose, yeah, 0:55:07.200 --> 0:55:09.080 the guy who put them on it's from a certain 0:55:09.160 --> 0:55:14.560 set and that's set, it's from California. They'll they'll claim 0:55:14.640 --> 0:55:19.719 that set and still being on. I don't know, I 0:55:19.760 --> 0:55:26.680 don't know how the transfer program works, but your games 0:55:26.800 --> 0:55:31.080 except accept absolutely and and why wouldn't they, but you know, 0:55:31.280 --> 0:55:33.440 and some guys who was like, you know that, ain't 0:55:33.760 --> 0:55:35.879 that ain't real game banging because you know, you look 0:55:35.960 --> 0:55:40.800 at the way the the Kachi Kid was represented, you know, 0:55:41.000 --> 0:55:44.320 it offended a lot of real you know that moves 0:55:44.920 --> 0:55:47.440 back at the crib and the fact that there was 0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:51.960 no i mean yeah, paying homage to to what it 0:55:52.080 --> 0:55:54.879 really represented because it's casted you know that they really 0:55:54.960 --> 0:55:57.799 died for that ship, you know, and yeah yeah yeah, 0:55:57.800 --> 0:55:59.800 and so so to make a mockery of it and 0:56:00.480 --> 0:56:03.359 become like it's a it's you know, it's it's it's 0:56:03.400 --> 0:56:07.880 not tell you that. Yeah yeah, yeah, who hate on? 0:56:07.960 --> 0:56:11.480 I ain't talking about you know, that's just the example 0:56:11.560 --> 0:56:13.560 that you look at y G and you look at 0:56:13.600 --> 0:56:16.160 how you don't even get kids reputable, you know what 0:56:16.200 --> 0:56:19.319 I'm saying, and you really bang that. So I'm never 0:56:20.080 --> 0:56:22.120 I'm sorry, like to change it up a little bit, 0:56:22.160 --> 0:56:25.840 but I've never seen someone wreck their selves in front 0:56:25.960 --> 0:56:31.359 of like the audience like that, Yeah, what do you mean? 0:56:31.400 --> 0:56:33.800 What do you mean? But like what what what? What? 0:56:34.040 --> 0:56:37.640 What happened with six nine? Like what happened with him? 0:56:37.680 --> 0:56:40.960 Like it was one plenty of times everyone, you have 0:56:41.400 --> 0:56:45.160 fifteen examples of when you do it like this, this 0:56:45.280 --> 0:56:47.640 is exactly where it leads to, and he paid attention 0:56:47.719 --> 0:56:50.000 to none of that, like what Joe told him, This 0:56:50.080 --> 0:56:52.080 is exactly what No. But I think that's I think 0:56:52.120 --> 0:56:54.680 it's different. I think we've had tragedy and hip hop before. 0:56:55.000 --> 0:56:57.600 I think we've seen like like like like like super 0:56:57.719 --> 0:57:00.480 super fucked up ship that's happened in hip pop. But 0:57:00.600 --> 0:57:04.239 I think what's different about him is that we live 0:57:04.320 --> 0:57:07.959 in this time where everything is recorded, everything is Yeah, 0:57:08.239 --> 0:57:12.879 it's like he filmed himself into the thing. And that's 0:57:12.880 --> 0:57:16.120 the dangerous part. It's like everything ain't supposed to be, 0:57:16.760 --> 0:57:19.160 you know, displayed to the public, especially if you live 0:57:19.200 --> 0:57:21.360 in in that world. And I think that we're living 0:57:21.400 --> 0:57:23.240 in the age now where all of that is out 0:57:23.280 --> 0:57:25.960 the window. I mean, you see somebody struggling, you know. 0:57:26.120 --> 0:57:31.000 And the new footage, the new footage TMZ TMZ is 0:57:31.200 --> 0:57:35.120 the worst, by the way, I like Harvey a little bit, 0:57:36.320 --> 0:57:39.520 but the ship that he just put out. Listen, they 0:57:39.640 --> 0:57:44.960 had some balance of six nine filming his friend filming 0:57:45.640 --> 0:57:50.800 somebody robbing the ship, and then they had someone filming him. Yeah, 0:57:50.920 --> 0:57:53.400 and then they just put it out and they just 0:57:55.120 --> 0:57:58.520 and how does the FBI not say, oh, I'm gotta 0:57:58.600 --> 0:58:00.960 use this in all investigations it Why is it no 0:58:01.040 --> 0:58:05.480 one saying TMZ is the snitch. No one says that. 0:58:06.520 --> 0:58:11.760 No one says TMZ is the actual rat m. They 0:58:11.920 --> 0:58:14.959 don't want to outgate. They're grabbing these funny said, they're 0:58:15.160 --> 0:58:17.919 throwing these people out there. And no, no one plays 0:58:18.040 --> 0:58:21.760 TMZ for nothing because why there their civilians. I don't 0:58:21.800 --> 0:58:25.720 think you're civilian. If you're digging into game ship, you 0:58:25.840 --> 0:58:36.360 should be accountant, just like a game. Oh I went 0:58:36.440 --> 0:58:41.080 to no one, I'm saying this is keeping real. TMZ 0:58:41.440 --> 0:58:44.360 is the new fat, TIMS is a new fat people 0:58:44.560 --> 0:58:46.960 rather go to TMZ and get paid from TMZ. How 0:58:47.040 --> 0:58:51.080 didn't name anonymous like you think you can paying for that? 0:58:51.160 --> 0:58:54.160 Funny to say, Oh, I mean TMZ, I'm assuming they're 0:58:54.160 --> 0:58:59.080 paying you. It's just bad new seals with them. Do 0:58:59.200 --> 0:59:02.880 they have a footage of two people shooting at the 0:59:02.960 --> 0:59:06.600 back of au and the cameras movement and the cameras moving. Yeah, 0:59:06.800 --> 0:59:10.000 it's not a stationary camera. The cameras following the ship. 0:59:10.320 --> 0:59:12.600 You know what's going on? I don't know, but I 0:59:12.680 --> 0:59:15.440 think they're just recording some wild ship and just so 0:59:15.640 --> 0:59:18.200 happy to beat them. You know what I'm saying. You 0:59:18.320 --> 0:59:26.320 ever thought that, well, we'll be our own paparazzi, because 0:59:26.400 --> 0:59:30.120 that's that's essentially what's happening right now. People, people not 0:59:30.280 --> 0:59:33.320 even being followed. Yeah, you're setting out your own dumb 0:59:33.400 --> 0:59:40.840 foot this to yourself. Yeah, and then out and they 0:59:40.920 --> 0:59:45.240 say they snihing you sent this ship the world so 0:59:45.560 --> 0:59:49.080 exactly right. No, I think that we come from an 0:59:49.080 --> 0:59:52.400 age where, remember, it wasn't cool to do commercials. It 0:59:52.560 --> 0:59:55.840 wasn't cool to be associated with a brand. It was 0:59:55.920 --> 0:59:59.240 like you were selling out, you're selling you was selling out. 0:59:59.360 --> 1:00:02.400 You're selling out you you know. But then we'll take 1:00:02.520 --> 1:00:07.600 this Saint Odds commercially and they left them back again. Yeah, 1:00:09.520 --> 1:00:13.920 first I think, but it was it was you know, 1:00:14.080 --> 1:00:17.360 it wasn't cool back then. But now fast forward, you know, 1:00:17.480 --> 1:00:20.000 every all said, everybody talks about is being a brand. 1:00:20.280 --> 1:00:22.560 I want to be on some screen time and what 1:00:23.240 --> 1:00:25.640 it is, you know what I'm saying, so so so 1:00:25.920 --> 1:00:28.760 it's just wild to see how things change. I think 1:00:28.800 --> 1:00:31.160 there's a negative in the positive that comes with that. 1:00:31.280 --> 1:00:34.760 I think that we um have the opportunity to cut 1:00:34.800 --> 1:00:37.600 out the middleman and we are able to create our 1:00:37.680 --> 1:00:41.000 own revenue streams. But on the side, the negative side, 1:00:41.080 --> 1:00:43.120 I think that some of us aren't ready to be 1:00:43.240 --> 1:00:48.680 on camera yet because it brings out the worst and 1:00:49.680 --> 1:00:53.280 the most ugliest side of us that are sometimes portrayed, 1:00:53.520 --> 1:00:56.400 and then it becomes more fuel to the fire for 1:00:56.480 --> 1:01:00.520 the people that hate us. But this like like like 1:01:00.800 --> 1:01:04.800 want to be instant famous, everybody you want to be famous? First, 1:01:06.480 --> 1:01:09.880 wasn't Super had oh oh ship and he took it 1:01:10.000 --> 1:01:15.920 somewhere else. I'm sorry I keep music keeping. I'm just 1:01:16.000 --> 1:01:19.680 saying because because it's Super No, I'm just saying no, no, 1:01:20.720 --> 1:01:23.560 I don't have no beef. I don't think I've ever 1:01:23.680 --> 1:01:26.560 met her. To tell the truth, people think that's not me. 1:01:26.880 --> 1:01:29.640 That was Jada kiss line, super bad, super bad, It's 1:01:29.680 --> 1:01:32.960 not my line. Thanks for clearing up. Definitely needed to 1:01:33.000 --> 1:01:36.120 clear her life. But but what I'm saying is she 1:01:36.280 --> 1:01:40.080 became famous for you know, a certainty, but people didn't 1:01:40.120 --> 1:01:42.320 know you know what I'm saying, And then it's all 1:01:42.360 --> 1:01:45.440 these other people who But she said that before social 1:01:45.520 --> 1:01:49.080 media though, Yeah, but that tripled down to it. That 1:01:49.240 --> 1:01:52.200 actually made that's a part of it. That's what I'm 1:01:52.200 --> 1:01:54.919 gonna say. It's like my dog Hecklers, He's said the line. 1:01:55.040 --> 1:01:57.800 He's like, there's no more fans of the music anymore 1:01:58.000 --> 1:02:01.640 because the fans themselves are starting out because of social media. 1:02:01.960 --> 1:02:05.120 They themselves believe the artists. They want the views and clicks, right, 1:02:05.760 --> 1:02:09.680 So why I ain't gonna be your fan? Now they're 1:02:09.720 --> 1:02:14.800 your peer? Yeah, exactly, So everybody's star exactly. You just 1:02:14.960 --> 1:02:20.640 happened to be a little further follows yea, yeah exact. Yeah. Yeah, 1:02:21.160 --> 1:02:24.000 Like everybody has their own goal, like like like your 1:02:24.040 --> 1:02:26.200 goal might be you know what, we get two hundred 1:02:26.240 --> 1:02:29.400 likes today, and I'm the man. You win up. You 1:02:29.480 --> 1:02:34.760 get two hundred likes like they ain't got You're going outside, 1:02:34.840 --> 1:02:37.360 you getting you know what I mean, your little over brand. 1:02:37.840 --> 1:02:40.439 You're like, yo, my dude. They be like, yeah, anything good, 1:02:40.520 --> 1:02:44.360 I got my two hunds. Yeah, and now that's get 1:02:44.400 --> 1:02:48.120 sense of accomplishment. And now that's why the music business 1:02:48.200 --> 1:02:50.720 is taking me because no one wants to buy you. Right, 1:02:52.280 --> 1:02:54.320 you can buy my own. You're like, damn, everybody wants 1:02:54.320 --> 1:03:00.320 to be the dealer. Who is the clients? It's not music, 1:03:00.360 --> 1:03:03.320 it's just content. Now it's just stream trolley. There's the 1:03:03.360 --> 1:03:06.040 crazy ship going on, like Charlie met when we went 1:03:06.080 --> 1:03:08.920 to Philly. Charlie met some chick in the street and 1:03:09.080 --> 1:03:11.720 she looked at how many followers he had to see 1:03:11.720 --> 1:03:20.600 if she wanted to talk to him. Charlie, but that's 1:03:20.680 --> 1:03:24.920 all wait a minute, story again, said he's trying to 1:03:25.040 --> 1:03:28.280 use social media to connect, Like, yo, let's exchange whatever. 1:03:28.320 --> 1:03:31.080 What's your I G B? Because I understand now that's 1:03:31.120 --> 1:03:36.160 people to say what it was. There was no phone number. 1:03:36.680 --> 1:03:38.640 He wanted to do the face the Facebook of the Instagram. 1:03:38.680 --> 1:03:41.440 And then she looked at his father like cool, like that, 1:03:42.240 --> 1:03:54.160 whoa wut? She had more followers, asking how many followers? 1:03:56.480 --> 1:03:58.800 They asked how many followers you got? I was the 1:03:58.840 --> 1:04:00.720 first time I've seen that, but I can imagine it 1:04:00.800 --> 1:04:07.080 makes sense to me. I'm like about the game, man. 1:04:07.160 --> 1:04:10.880 I feel sorry for the new generation. Man, it's terrible. Sorry, 1:04:17.040 --> 1:04:19.720 So you know you haven't been you haven't been disgusted 1:04:19.720 --> 1:04:23.520 about the hip hop game to do him up, you know, 1:04:23.880 --> 1:04:25.640 whatever point you want to you know what I'm talking 1:04:25.640 --> 1:04:29.440 about the new hip hop be political about. I wouldn't 1:04:29.480 --> 1:04:32.040 say disgusted. Man, I just don't listen to it, you 1:04:32.120 --> 1:04:34.680 know what I'm saying, Like at the point that I am, 1:04:35.640 --> 1:04:38.240 when I go digging and looking through hip hop right now, 1:04:40.520 --> 1:04:43.880 you know, I find myself kind of like I don't 1:04:43.960 --> 1:04:48.440 understand where they're going. I just want to be I 1:04:48.760 --> 1:04:50.800 want to be brought up to speed when they get there. 1:04:51.280 --> 1:04:53.400 You know what I'm saying, Like like I want to 1:04:53.480 --> 1:04:56.400 see the best come out of this, you know. And 1:04:56.600 --> 1:04:59.320 so because I love hip hop. You know, there's been 1:05:00.040 --> 1:05:03.160 the dirt ship when we were you known first coming 1:05:03.200 --> 1:05:06.160 out too, and so now it's kind of like there's 1:05:06.240 --> 1:05:09.600 so much of it. I think of the hip hop 1:05:10.040 --> 1:05:13.240 hip hop, there's there's more. Like you said, we're just 1:05:13.320 --> 1:05:16.120 talking about bouncing off everybody being an artist now, everybody 1:05:16.160 --> 1:05:18.560 with a laptop in the phone right now, I can 1:05:18.640 --> 1:05:24.080 put some content out. So I the ship that pops, like, 1:05:24.680 --> 1:05:26.480 I'll wait for that and then I look at it 1:05:26.840 --> 1:05:28.840 and I'll be like, I wonder why they like that? 1:05:29.120 --> 1:05:31.240 You know what I'm saying, like, okay, well, let me see. 1:05:31.680 --> 1:05:33.480 I try to find an upside in it. And when 1:05:33.480 --> 1:05:35.840 I can't find the upside, then I just put it down. 1:05:36.440 --> 1:05:38.960 You know. I listened to a lot of satellite radio. 1:05:39.520 --> 1:05:43.800 I listened to I try not to stay um like stagnant. 1:05:44.120 --> 1:05:46.360 I want to be, you know, up to day to 1:05:46.400 --> 1:05:49.040 figure out what's going on, like Blue Face and listen 1:05:49.120 --> 1:05:51.520 to that. And then I listened to Then I listened 1:05:51.520 --> 1:05:54.560 to like Jie Parrico. Then I listened to you know, 1:05:54.720 --> 1:05:56.600 like I listened to everything that's kind of like what 1:05:56.720 --> 1:05:59.919 everybody is looking at. I'll peek at it and see 1:06:00.000 --> 1:06:02.360 if they if they there yet, you know what I'm saying. 1:06:02.440 --> 1:06:04.560 But then I look at you know, lyricists, and I'll 1:06:04.600 --> 1:06:06.760 look you know. I listened to static, you know what 1:06:06.800 --> 1:06:09.400 I'm saying. It's Graham, Jones and Cats, and see what 1:06:09.480 --> 1:06:11.760 they on. And then I, you know, because the l A. 1:06:11.880 --> 1:06:15.320 D J's, you know, um, you know, the big radio station, 1:06:15.360 --> 1:06:18.640 they just kind of play the static. They play that 1:06:18.800 --> 1:06:21.520 on safety. They'd be in the que club or the 1:06:21.600 --> 1:06:33.520 White Boy could yeah, yeah, because they bring back the 1:06:33.560 --> 1:06:36.000 Baker Boys of the radio in l A. Man, I 1:06:36.080 --> 1:06:40.320 can't I wish Man, I wish man. I mean it's 1:06:40.400 --> 1:06:42.400 it's it's different cats out there that's trying to push 1:06:42.440 --> 1:06:46.400 the culture. Man. But you know, I think, Um, I 1:06:46.560 --> 1:06:49.400 feel like, you know, I'm still looking for I'm a lyricist. 1:06:49.520 --> 1:06:52.920 I love I love that about hip hop. I love 1:06:53.000 --> 1:06:56.280 when I can see a picture or feel a vibe 1:06:56.400 --> 1:06:59.200 or know what somebody is at and not even be 1:06:59.320 --> 1:07:01.840 there because of what they're saying. You know, I like 1:07:02.040 --> 1:07:05.840 being taken on a journey, you know, so, um, if 1:07:05.880 --> 1:07:08.080 that don't happen, then I'm not attracted to it. You 1:07:08.120 --> 1:07:10.040 know what I'm said. I get it. I understand, like, 1:07:10.400 --> 1:07:12.120 you know, there's a trapp and then there's you know, 1:07:12.280 --> 1:07:14.880 there's people like that vibe, and then there's people that 1:07:15.080 --> 1:07:16.760 just like the beat and don't give a funk about 1:07:16.760 --> 1:07:19.280 the lyrics, all of these different aspects, and then that 1:07:19.520 --> 1:07:23.680 was it's wrapped song categories in the Grammys. You know 1:07:23.680 --> 1:07:26.040 what I'm saying, Because that's the thing. So it's like 1:07:26.120 --> 1:07:28.480 I see it evolving. I'm just waiting until he gets 1:07:28.520 --> 1:07:31.320 to it is better stay God, damn, let's pretty crook 1:07:31.320 --> 1:07:47.080 it eye deserves look like because we call you crooked Eye, 1:07:47.080 --> 1:07:49.439 and I know you changed. The kid crooked, can't crook it. Yeah, 1:07:49.480 --> 1:07:54.560 that's it. That doesn't matter to you. Now let me 1:07:54.640 --> 1:07:58.560 ask you. Now I'm looking at you. Spoken us a god, 1:08:00.000 --> 1:08:02.960 a guy from l A spoke us of guards always think. 1:08:03.040 --> 1:08:05.720 So I think on one thing and I need to 1:08:05.800 --> 1:08:08.920 ask both of guys, two kids of the West Coast. 1:08:10.280 --> 1:08:17.360 Did should make the West Coast better? L A beller All. 1:08:20.280 --> 1:08:22.400 I mean, it depends on how you look at it, 1:08:22.400 --> 1:08:24.439 you know what I'm saying, Like he definitely put on 1:08:25.280 --> 1:08:28.320 for this for the coast. You know, he was well 1:08:28.479 --> 1:08:31.200 established West Coast label that's going down in history. So 1:08:31.320 --> 1:08:34.519 if you feel like that's something, then that's positive. You 1:08:34.560 --> 1:08:37.799 know what I'm saying. He brought a lot of bloods 1:08:37.800 --> 1:08:39.599 and crips together, you know what I mean he did. 1:08:41.280 --> 1:08:42.880 You know, he did a lot of good things to 1:08:43.080 --> 1:08:46.919 you know what I'm saying, Like he would rebuild nurseries 1:08:46.960 --> 1:08:50.240 that burned down, or you know, every every year he 1:08:50.320 --> 1:08:52.640 had a Mother's Day feast and Beverly Hills where he 1:08:52.720 --> 1:08:55.160 go to the hood and pick up all the mothers, 1:08:55.200 --> 1:08:56.840 you know what I mean, and taking the Beverly Hills 1:08:56.880 --> 1:08:59.840 buying something nice to eat, and you know kids that 1:09:00.680 --> 1:09:03.720 haven't seen their father's you know what I mean. Incarcerated, 1:09:03.760 --> 1:09:06.640 he would charter busses on Father's Day and send the 1:09:06.760 --> 1:09:08.560 kids out to go see their pomps and all that. 1:09:08.720 --> 1:09:11.559 Like he did a lot of things, man. But as 1:09:11.600 --> 1:09:15.200 far as for hip hop, I just think I would 1:09:15.720 --> 1:09:17.800 I'd like to judge somebody about how they treat me. 1:09:18.040 --> 1:09:19.719 And when I was on death row, I was treated 1:09:19.720 --> 1:09:22.360 with treating. Will you know what I'm saying? I was 1:09:22.400 --> 1:09:24.439 treated well. So I ain't got nothing about to say. 1:09:25.320 --> 1:09:29.880 That's real, that's real. Um, you have you have a thought? 1:09:30.080 --> 1:09:34.280 Uh all the West Coast b where it's at right now? 1:09:34.439 --> 1:09:37.439 Like you know, we got we got game out there, 1:09:38.040 --> 1:09:44.160 we got the forty, we got you two guys never 1:09:44.240 --> 1:09:48.800 see um you thought you thought the West Coasts were 1:09:48.880 --> 1:09:52.120 maintained as as you know what I'm saying, because West 1:09:52.160 --> 1:09:54.880 Coast is his own planet exactly. You know, it's like, 1:09:55.400 --> 1:09:57.040 you know a good thing about y'all you can go 1:09:57.520 --> 1:10:00.680 can go just the l A. Yeah, I'm but no, No, 1:10:00.840 --> 1:10:04.479 it's not even about record sales. It's about the status 1:10:04.800 --> 1:10:08.080 and the respect that people have for each other. And 1:10:08.320 --> 1:10:10.479 and because you said it's game culture, I mean when 1:10:10.479 --> 1:10:14.160 you got legendary ship. You still people that that recognize 1:10:14.160 --> 1:10:18.280 and love Rodeo and Joe Cooley. You know what I'm saying. 1:10:18.600 --> 1:10:21.960 There's like once you hit that status, like we have 1:10:22.320 --> 1:10:25.920 concerts in l A where you see rappers that you 1:10:26.040 --> 1:10:30.680 know maybe been on you know, like recently, and then 1:10:30.680 --> 1:10:32.519 you got casts that can come back from as far 1:10:32.560 --> 1:10:35.120 as twenty years ago and still have the same crowd. 1:10:40.200 --> 1:10:42.600 To me, but it's like it's like people respect that 1:10:43.160 --> 1:10:45.160 and you put off for the W And that's what 1:10:45.280 --> 1:10:47.880 it's about, because the rest of the world ain't really 1:10:47.920 --> 1:10:50.240 putting on for the W. We got pockets and support. 1:10:50.840 --> 1:10:53.240 But I mean when when when and when everybody loved 1:10:53.280 --> 1:10:55.320 the West Coast? Everybody loved the West Coast, but then 1:10:55.360 --> 1:10:56.960 it moved and went to the south. From when it 1:10:57.200 --> 1:10:59.760 goes back in, it moves around, you know what I'm saying. So, 1:11:00.080 --> 1:11:03.679 but on the West, I mean, we always celebrate the West, 1:11:03.920 --> 1:11:08.360 you know, but I expect that now do you think 1:11:10.120 --> 1:11:13.880 Joe Button's will be where he was at? If? Like, 1:11:14.040 --> 1:11:16.519 I mean, did you ever see this coming? Like because 1:11:16.840 --> 1:11:19.160 because didn't it wasn't you and joe y'all got cool 1:11:19.160 --> 1:11:22.320 because you're sparring lyrically like a little bit. I mean, 1:11:22.400 --> 1:11:26.680 me and Joe, Um, we was as sparring him and 1:11:26.800 --> 1:11:30.599 Royce was sparring, you know what I'm saying. And Royce 1:11:30.680 --> 1:11:32.320 was sparring back and forth. You know what I'm saying. 1:11:33.120 --> 1:11:35.240 Joe hit this kid. Nino blessed and asked him if 1:11:35.240 --> 1:11:36.840 I could turn the record around for him in like 1:11:36.920 --> 1:11:39.680 twenty four hours. So you know, Nino was like, yeah, 1:11:39.800 --> 1:11:41.639 you know, so he sent me the record I got 1:11:41.680 --> 1:11:44.679 on the record. The record was called Slarterhouse and that's 1:11:44.720 --> 1:11:47.720 the how you know slarter House started. Um, you know, 1:11:48.280 --> 1:11:56.120 produced by my man back here. You know, you know 1:11:56.200 --> 1:12:00.360 I scream, you know it's partly your fault too, man, 1:12:00.439 --> 1:12:11.519 Snarterhouse Man, I didn't know that's real. But yeah, yeah, 1:12:11.760 --> 1:12:13.240 did I know that he would be where he is 1:12:13.280 --> 1:12:17.760 as far as media, Joe, Yeah, I see you. I'll 1:12:17.800 --> 1:12:20.760 teach you to all fitters. Let me tell you the 1:12:20.840 --> 1:12:22.800 way I'm gone with it. I see you do a 1:12:22.880 --> 1:12:25.040 blog where I don't know if it's called a blog 1:12:25.160 --> 1:12:27.599 or whatever. I just see your addressing it where you didn't. 1:12:27.720 --> 1:12:31.040 You didn't agree with his opinion of eminence, right, And 1:12:31.800 --> 1:12:36.080 I felt you because sometimes even if that's how you fail, 1:12:36.160 --> 1:12:39.439 shut the funk up, like like, I'm not saying you know, 1:12:40.000 --> 1:12:44.200 but I'm saying, like, if you're my brother, and you're 1:12:44.240 --> 1:12:48.599 my brother, sometimes my opinion of you, even if it's bad, 1:12:49.680 --> 1:12:54.760 that should be between me and ye direct to the Yeah, 1:12:54.800 --> 1:12:57.599 you're accurate. I mean, I just felt like his approach 1:12:57.720 --> 1:13:00.640 was wrong. Like, you know, if you don't like something, yo, 1:13:00.760 --> 1:13:02.840 it's not for me. I don't like it, you know 1:13:02.840 --> 1:13:05.800 what I mean? Cool, that's the homie. You know this 1:13:05.880 --> 1:13:08.639 ain't for me. But when you say something is trash, 1:13:09.200 --> 1:13:12.519 you shoot on Paul Rosenberg's rollout, you do you know 1:13:12.720 --> 1:13:15.360 you're taking it a little further. And then I know 1:13:15.560 --> 1:13:18.880 the backstory. I know that there were some issues that 1:13:19.080 --> 1:13:22.479 you felt against the label. You're not giving a fair 1:13:22.560 --> 1:13:26.080 critique now because now you've got malice behind what you said. 1:13:26.120 --> 1:13:29.720 It's personal. And then my whole thing was like listen, man, 1:13:29.800 --> 1:13:31.880 just keep it abut you know what I mean. And 1:13:32.000 --> 1:13:34.599 it eventually it came out where He's like, I felt 1:13:34.600 --> 1:13:36.200 like I was better than them for ten years, this, 1:13:36.320 --> 1:13:38.920 this and that, and they took me off this record. Eventually, 1:13:39.560 --> 1:13:42.960 can we address that? I mean, we could address anything. 1:13:43.040 --> 1:13:49.679 I'm on the Champs. Maybe yes, I like Joe Buttons. 1:13:50.000 --> 1:13:53.000 I like a muss person, I like a muzzle artists. 1:13:53.520 --> 1:13:56.639 But I don't know. I don't not show up that statement. 1:13:58.000 --> 1:14:02.240 I mean, for he says, he didn't say that. I 1:14:02.320 --> 1:14:04.640 mean every MC is supposed to feel like they be. 1:14:05.840 --> 1:14:08.400 So I give you that much space. What you ever saying, 1:14:08.400 --> 1:14:12.760 you know what I'm saying said, But I now that 1:14:12.960 --> 1:14:15.320 you said that, I think you got to back it 1:14:15.439 --> 1:14:18.720 up with more than just a statement, because because m 1:14:18.800 --> 1:14:22.160 came at you where you at Joe, you said you 1:14:22.320 --> 1:14:24.559 was better than for the past ten years. He gave 1:14:24.600 --> 1:14:27.400 you a few bars and you can't say your retirement 1:14:27.560 --> 1:14:30.000 it's just you gotta all bets are off. Yeah, you 1:14:30.080 --> 1:14:32.720 gotta back it up. Now. You just said this, so 1:14:32.960 --> 1:14:34.920 you know if you don't back it up, I don't 1:14:34.960 --> 1:14:38.240 think that you even believe that. You know what I'm saying. 1:14:39.280 --> 1:14:47.479 This is very where is Rory? I was here, hold 1:14:47.520 --> 1:14:52.840 on my favorite you will come back. I think it's 1:14:52.920 --> 1:14:56.280 interesting because you know I think I know is that 1:14:56.360 --> 1:14:58.760 you guys got respect for each other. I think that 1:15:01.840 --> 1:15:04.320 I think what you said it was like, yo, listen, 1:15:04.360 --> 1:15:07.000 I don't I don't have to like everything my man 1:15:07.160 --> 1:15:11.960 does at all, Right, But it's the way of my 1:15:12.080 --> 1:15:16.400 approach it. Yeah, yeah, like now and then keep in 1:15:16.520 --> 1:15:19.040 mind like I'm Sam signed the Drink Champs records, right, 1:15:29.080 --> 1:15:34.240 I got some much ship, but I'm signed to you guys. 1:15:34.240 --> 1:15:36.800 I do everything and I'm supposed to do, And you 1:15:36.880 --> 1:15:39.760 guys do everything you're supposed to do contracts with right, 1:15:39.880 --> 1:15:42.000 and things don't work out? Say things don't work out, 1:15:42.080 --> 1:15:44.439 but outside of the contract, I get jammed up on 1:15:44.520 --> 1:15:48.760 some real life ship. Right, you guys come to my 1:15:48.920 --> 1:15:53.360 aid like that in a major way. I would never 1:15:53.439 --> 1:15:56.560 forget that, all right. I feel like Joe forgot that 1:15:56.640 --> 1:15:59.760 when he was saying what he was saying. You feel 1:15:59.840 --> 1:16:03.800 me like, I don't forget solid ship. That's just now 1:16:03.840 --> 1:16:06.040 how I'm cutting, Like I even remember You probably don't 1:16:06.040 --> 1:16:08.160 remember when I was young on death Rod came out, 1:16:09.160 --> 1:16:10.920 Me and Sheil came up to a session you was 1:16:10.960 --> 1:16:20.960 at though all the soulid Southtrack studiostreet and and you 1:16:22.560 --> 1:16:25.760 was making sure we was good. You see what I'm 1:16:25.800 --> 1:16:31.599 saying on that good left? Yeah? I remember, I never 1:16:31.800 --> 1:16:35.400 remember solid ship. You feel I never forget solid ship, 1:16:36.160 --> 1:16:38.479 you know what I mean? So I would think that 1:16:38.800 --> 1:16:41.439 as long as em and Paul didn't crossing him in 1:16:41.479 --> 1:16:43.200 a certain kind of way. I would think he would 1:16:43.240 --> 1:16:46.080 have enough respect to just be like, yo, you know what, 1:16:46.840 --> 1:16:48.720 I ain't gonna step on the gas on this one 1:16:48.800 --> 1:16:50.840 like that, you know what I mean, I don't like it. 1:16:50.920 --> 1:16:53.040 I'm just gonna say that I don't like it. But 1:16:53.240 --> 1:16:55.000 you know this is when it's just fair, like you know, 1:16:55.240 --> 1:16:59.719 you can't. You just can't like every game. Let's play, 1:17:00.080 --> 1:17:01.920 you know what I'm saying. So, but then it's a 1:17:02.000 --> 1:17:04.439 it's a difference, you know, I get what you were saying. 1:17:04.640 --> 1:17:09.960 And although I don't think it hurt even any way 1:17:10.000 --> 1:17:14.439 shape for fashion, but voice in the opinion, sometimes it 1:17:14.520 --> 1:17:16.600 can't be hurt. It can't be especially coming from a 1:17:16.640 --> 1:17:19.280 family member, you know what I'm saying, Like, come on, especially, 1:17:19.320 --> 1:17:21.600 I don't know how you guys have family strucks. I 1:17:21.640 --> 1:17:23.559 don't know that if that was the case. But if 1:17:23.640 --> 1:17:27.120 that wasn't it definitely affects the smartouse. Yeah, you know, yeah, 1:17:27.200 --> 1:17:29.200 it definitely did, because me and Royce was behind the 1:17:29.240 --> 1:17:32.400 scenes working trying to get down out to the people, 1:17:33.320 --> 1:17:34.840 and you know, that was like a grenade, you know 1:17:34.840 --> 1:17:37.439 what I'm saying, that he took the pin out and 1:17:37.520 --> 1:17:49.000 tossed that bitch what happened. Uh, but I'm trying to 1:17:49.160 --> 1:17:52.720 stuff I'm not, but now that was that that was real? 1:17:52.840 --> 1:18:00.240 Because um so in your opinion, right, because I uh 1:18:01.200 --> 1:18:04.720 I heard he said he felt like that day like 1:18:05.080 --> 1:18:07.800 M wasn't pushing U slaughter house, like it was something 1:18:07.920 --> 1:18:13.000 that was missing missing, meaning M had just sold these 1:18:13.040 --> 1:18:17.599 millionaires a union unit units. You come into you guys project, 1:18:18.040 --> 1:18:21.040 you guys project doesn't work, and he's kind of I 1:18:21.080 --> 1:18:23.240 don't want to say he blamed or but he kind 1:18:23.240 --> 1:18:28.080 of alluded that MS fast that right. Well, I mean, 1:18:28.200 --> 1:18:31.559 you know, it's like you guys were talking earlier about 1:18:31.640 --> 1:18:34.080 the ship and the culture in the way that technology 1:18:34.120 --> 1:18:37.439 plays a part now on social media. I believe we 1:18:37.560 --> 1:18:41.040 came in at a time on Shady where M didn't 1:18:41.120 --> 1:18:44.880 have to do so much ship. He was used to 1:18:45.040 --> 1:18:49.759 having one formula to make things rock, but that formula 1:18:50.439 --> 1:18:56.840 was changing with the times. So what M did? He said, Okay, 1:18:57.080 --> 1:19:00.840 that first round, that's on me. Y'all go back in 1:19:00.960 --> 1:19:04.400 and make another album, and I'm gonna just let y'all rock. 1:19:04.640 --> 1:19:06.880 Do whatever y'all want to do, handle it the way 1:19:06.920 --> 1:19:08.439 you want to handle it, roll it out how you 1:19:08.479 --> 1:19:10.800 want to roll it out, just do you. We all 1:19:10.840 --> 1:19:13.559 agreed and went back into the lab. That's my problem 1:19:13.640 --> 1:19:17.200 with If you agreed to go back and record another 1:19:17.320 --> 1:19:19.960 album and give it another shot, why are we still 1:19:20.040 --> 1:19:23.880 talking about the second This is the second album on 1:19:24.040 --> 1:19:27.679 Shad First album was E one Slarterhouse self titled second album, 1:19:27.720 --> 1:19:31.080 Welcome to Our House on Shady Records. Third album, Glasshouse, 1:19:32.000 --> 1:19:33.840 that's the one that's the one that never came out. 1:19:34.479 --> 1:19:37.320 You guys have proved that an indie route was could 1:19:37.360 --> 1:19:41.720 be successful, right, correct? Correct? I mean, but we I 1:19:41.880 --> 1:19:43.320 moved to New York for like a month and a 1:19:43.360 --> 1:19:46.000 half and we did the whole glass House out there, 1:19:46.120 --> 1:19:48.439 just us how we wanted to do it. They gave 1:19:48.520 --> 1:19:51.120 us the ball and then you know what I'm saying, 1:19:51.160 --> 1:19:57.680 the team broke up. M I thought it was like 1:19:57.800 --> 1:20:05.040 someone else. I'm a little what is it called? Because 1:20:05.680 --> 1:20:08.320 I thought it was like way deeper than that. So 1:20:08.400 --> 1:20:10.560 you're telling me it's it's like but the way you 1:20:10.680 --> 1:20:16.439 just simply just said that, Yeah, I mean there's some 1:20:16.560 --> 1:20:19.200 things with slaughter House, you know that we we need 1:20:19.280 --> 1:20:23.840 to talk about. But I mean, people, you're gonna have 1:20:24.280 --> 1:20:27.320 something like I'm not an hold my breath though lyrical 1:20:27.479 --> 1:20:31.559 bars and and there was a brotherhood and well, I mean, 1:20:31.680 --> 1:20:34.240 you know I thought it was. I thought it was, 1:20:34.360 --> 1:20:36.080 and then at times I said, you know what, I 1:20:36.120 --> 1:20:39.639 don't think it was. But if one person isn't brotherly, 1:20:39.800 --> 1:20:42.720 doesn't make it all full brotherly or no, no, no, no, 1:20:43.040 --> 1:20:46.720 you know, It's just I'm just cut different. Like you know, 1:20:46.840 --> 1:20:49.080 I got three slaughter house tattoos, you feel me, Like 1:20:49.840 --> 1:20:52.720 like when it was going down, if if anybody was 1:20:52.760 --> 1:20:54.400 in trouble, I was there with him. And you know 1:20:54.400 --> 1:20:56.840 what I mean, I'm just it was just a difference 1:20:56.880 --> 1:20:59.880 to not to break up. Yeah, but just a different 1:21:00.120 --> 1:21:05.200 Just remember how serious it was. But an incident happened 1:21:05.240 --> 1:21:10.519 in the l A. What you know, two individuals, How 1:21:10.680 --> 1:21:14.920 personal you took it. How people were saying, man, you 1:21:15.000 --> 1:21:18.560 know cooking out here, wow because of believe you know, 1:21:19.640 --> 1:21:23.559 someone's hands got laid on in l A. Yeah. Yeah, 1:21:23.680 --> 1:21:26.559 and that was personal for you. That was that wasn't 1:21:26.800 --> 1:21:30.000 in That was very personal because I feel like, if 1:21:30.000 --> 1:21:33.799 you're on my coach, you should feel comfortable to move around. 1:21:34.000 --> 1:21:35.720 And I would hope that that's the same way if 1:21:35.760 --> 1:21:37.920 I'm in your city. You know what I mean. So 1:21:38.400 --> 1:21:41.160 I took even though it was two city things, even 1:21:41.280 --> 1:21:45.960 though because all parties, I know, you know what I'm saying. 1:21:46.040 --> 1:21:48.400 So it's like, why would you do that? Because I 1:21:48.520 --> 1:21:50.559 felt like it was a spit in my face? How 1:21:50.840 --> 1:21:53.559 how is that? Like, let's just say it for them? 1:21:53.560 --> 1:21:56.720 Because he was talking to cold Joe was a great 1:21:56.960 --> 1:21:59.720 on They got into some ship l A. It was 1:21:59.760 --> 1:22:03.400 on of grounds. Joe kind of he kind of live 1:22:03.520 --> 1:22:06.880 streamed the whole kind of thing, which was he kind 1:22:06.880 --> 1:22:11.840 of brought the coroller like the first because I believe, 1:22:11.920 --> 1:22:24.400 I don't know what happened. And then with brother brolls 1:22:24.400 --> 1:22:29.640 out here right now, then I'm man, I love her 1:22:29.720 --> 1:22:31.559 and he was like, you know, I said, ray dog, 1:22:33.280 --> 1:22:35.080 you know why why on my coach? So you know, 1:22:35.200 --> 1:22:37.120 we came up there with a football team because the 1:22:37.160 --> 1:22:39.080 way Joe sounded on the phone, I said, I'd better 1:22:39.120 --> 1:22:42.479 bring the whole city. You know what I'm saying. And um, 1:22:45.479 --> 1:22:47.439 believe it or not, some of my people fell out 1:22:47.479 --> 1:22:50.800 with me over that because they wanted to ride, well, 1:22:50.920 --> 1:22:54.280 they wanted to ride, but they fell out with me 1:22:54.439 --> 1:23:00.320 because they feel like Joe didn't respect them and they 1:23:00.400 --> 1:23:02.639 and they was ready to go one percent for Joe, 1:23:04.600 --> 1:23:07.240 so so they felt like he didn't respect that at all, 1:23:08.320 --> 1:23:10.760 you know what I mean. And I fell out with 1:23:10.880 --> 1:23:13.000 some of my people that I came out to Sandbox. 1:23:13.120 --> 1:23:15.960 We behind that, you know what I'm saying. So it 1:23:16.120 --> 1:23:19.240 was a horri deal. But you know, luckily, I'm the 1:23:19.320 --> 1:23:21.160 type of dude that's gonna go to the ogs to 1:23:21.200 --> 1:23:24.200 Triple O GS and say, Yo, man, should I go? 1:23:24.360 --> 1:23:26.120 They like, it's your call, and I'm like, yo, man. 1:23:26.240 --> 1:23:29.479 You know, I got love for my man Ray, you 1:23:29.520 --> 1:23:31.960 know what I'm saying. I got love for people different 1:23:32.000 --> 1:23:33.760 people in the Wouchang, you know what I'm saying. So 1:23:34.880 --> 1:23:37.000 I was able to go talk to the old g 1:23:37.200 --> 1:23:40.479 s and they was like, look, man, you might just 1:23:40.600 --> 1:23:42.920 want to lay low on this one, you know what 1:23:42.960 --> 1:23:45.439 I mean, because look how your man is acting towards us, 1:23:46.240 --> 1:23:48.960 you know what I'm saying. So it was just a 1:23:49.040 --> 1:23:51.200 bunch of crap. But I mean, I'm good with Ray, 1:23:51.360 --> 1:23:53.639 you know what I'm saying. I'm good rouchange. I speak 1:23:53.720 --> 1:23:56.080 to him offering Brisoners. My wi is my guy guy, 1:23:56.760 --> 1:23:59.000 you know what I'm saying. So I'm just happy that 1:23:59.240 --> 1:24:01.280 it all turned it something positive, you know what I mean, 1:24:02.160 --> 1:24:05.200 Because I don't like that low vibration ship and I feel, yeah, 1:24:05.520 --> 1:24:07.040 only I don't like the way I feel when I 1:24:07.080 --> 1:24:09.320 feel like we're about to have to do something, you 1:24:09.360 --> 1:24:14.640 know what I mean? God that ye little. It's just 1:24:14.840 --> 1:24:17.200 because you know how everybody in saw the house. When 1:24:17.240 --> 1:24:22.040 I look at it, uh, I feel like you took 1:24:22.040 --> 1:24:27.800 it most personal. Hit me out, meaning I felt like, 1:24:28.960 --> 1:24:32.479 you know, industry, we don't believe in the industry, got 1:24:32.520 --> 1:24:35.000 the while like I just like, man, this is just 1:24:35.120 --> 1:24:36.760 what it is. But I feel like you was like 1:24:36.840 --> 1:24:39.800 somebody like, yo, this is a brotherhood. I'm an hone 1:24:39.840 --> 1:24:42.560 of that. Let's say that that they didn't know that 1:24:42.800 --> 1:24:44.800 or anybody out of that. But I just feel like, 1:24:45.000 --> 1:24:46.560 like me from the outside looking at I don't have 1:24:46.600 --> 1:24:49.760 no inside information, you know. I'm just looking as a fan. 1:24:49.840 --> 1:24:52.000 I can be a fan too, and I'm looking like 1:24:52.320 --> 1:24:55.640 I knew those those certain situations you took personal. I 1:24:55.680 --> 1:24:58.960 knew certain situations you you wanted to honor it, you 1:24:58.960 --> 1:25:01.800 know what I'm saying. And um, I don't know. I 1:25:01.880 --> 1:25:04.599 don't think it's over. You don't think what's up? Chris? 1:25:06.160 --> 1:25:18.320 It's a wrap on that. Yeah, damn world the first 1:25:18.520 --> 1:25:23.680 a minute, but talking about cruise, being that we are 1:25:23.880 --> 1:25:30.440 dream champs. We got to acknowledge the alcoholics Cruise alcoholics. 1:25:30.600 --> 1:25:35.880 Such a fan of that movement, the bird us alcoholics. 1:25:39.240 --> 1:25:43.200 But what what's what's up with there? Is it? Oh man? 1:25:44.080 --> 1:25:46.559 As far as keen t ching t is the person 1:25:46.640 --> 1:25:50.360 that I have the most like he's he lives right 1:25:50.400 --> 1:25:52.240 around the corner. He lives right down the street from me. 1:25:52.720 --> 1:25:55.639 So you know, I really, you know, feel good about 1:25:56.200 --> 1:25:58.680 you know, my relationship with him. I know, you know, 1:25:59.520 --> 1:26:03.960 j ro Old Tash uh j Rose back in l A. 1:26:04.080 --> 1:26:06.360 He moved to Sweden for a while. Yea do like 1:26:06.400 --> 1:26:09.160 the hip hop sc yeah yeah, and then and then 1:26:09.400 --> 1:26:15.200 uh Tea Tash and Eastwood fur in Vegas. Yeah. But 1:26:15.400 --> 1:26:17.760 I mean we when we see each other, it's all love. 1:26:18.160 --> 1:26:22.400 You know. How the crew get created? Though King t 1:26:22.560 --> 1:26:25.920 created every was it like collectively? Like all y'all, this 1:26:26.040 --> 1:26:28.880 is what it is. This is alcoholics and this is 1:26:28.920 --> 1:26:33.040 the crew, the Lytics. No, King t Uh Actually, um 1:26:33.320 --> 1:26:36.200 j Row, east Wood and Tash were a group called 1:26:36.240 --> 1:26:39.960 E s P before they were to Alcoholics, right, Um 1:26:40.520 --> 1:26:44.160 Tash and Eastwood from Ohio and so when they came 1:26:44.200 --> 1:26:47.800 through and J Rowe from Pomona. So they all got 1:26:47.880 --> 1:26:50.400 together and King T was like, yo, y'all need to 1:26:50.479 --> 1:26:53.920 change E S E S P, which was like, um, 1:26:54.400 --> 1:27:08.439 something street poets and you do every day. He's just like, 1:27:08.520 --> 1:27:12.200 you know, Key was like, no, no, it's you know, 1:27:12.360 --> 1:27:19.040 it's printing the ie Lympics. No, but Keith T creating 1:27:19.120 --> 1:27:20.760 is like, Yo, you guys need to call yourself the 1:27:20.800 --> 1:27:26.000 alcoholics alcoholic. Scott signed to loud and then I think 1:27:26.080 --> 1:27:30.759 after that I was third. Yeah, I came on second, 1:27:30.880 --> 1:27:34.120 you know, from after the alcoholics, and then the far 1:27:34.280 --> 1:27:36.960 right came after me. And it's such an extension of 1:27:37.040 --> 1:27:40.040 the crew to like yeah people or whatever. Yeah, so 1:27:40.120 --> 1:27:42.400 many people. Absolutely, it was it was. It was. It 1:27:42.479 --> 1:27:44.559 was a family. We all was used to run together. 1:27:44.800 --> 1:27:46.360 And it was at the first full tank of the 1:27:46.400 --> 1:27:52.760 West coast of the West Coast. Yeah, um, because the 1:27:52.840 --> 1:27:57.000 West Coast have another rain, like like you said for like, 1:27:57.120 --> 1:27:59.680 I mean, you guys have errors from well, how do 1:27:59.760 --> 1:28:06.439 you say it's not raining right TV? Right now, I'm 1:28:06.479 --> 1:28:10.280 not that I'm saying a new one, like a brand 1:28:10.320 --> 1:28:12.200 new one like you're trying to talk about like the 1:28:12.680 --> 1:28:16.320 like the like what we call like the golden days. 1:28:16.400 --> 1:28:25.599 Then when when when death row and motherfucking and and yeah, 1:28:25.640 --> 1:28:30.280 but a certain generation it is going through a golden 1:28:30.320 --> 1:28:34.280 name but already got you. I'm saying that another We 1:28:34.360 --> 1:28:36.760 already got that. So you're saying that's saying something brand new. 1:28:38.840 --> 1:28:41.400 We got it, just got a little different. It's just 1:28:41.439 --> 1:28:45.639 gonna look different. It's gonna's and it's we saw that one. 1:28:45.720 --> 1:28:47.920 So it's not gonna skill the same note, but it's 1:28:47.960 --> 1:28:50.080 gonna look different. But it can happen for sure, because 1:28:50.240 --> 1:28:56.760 like we didn't want the guy with the rainbow head, 1:28:56.800 --> 1:29:02.800 but he did bring a couple of trophies home and 1:29:02.960 --> 1:29:12.640 we did claim's like, yeah, broke our trophy. But I 1:29:12.800 --> 1:29:14.479 think you do you think the face of musical is 1:29:14.520 --> 1:29:17.800 going to continue to change like that? Yeah, I think 1:29:17.880 --> 1:29:20.439 our value system of what we used to make. You know, 1:29:20.920 --> 1:29:25.920 our judgments on hip hop has changed. Well I think, yeah, yeah, 1:29:26.720 --> 1:29:30.759 are you're right? Our judgment will change, but their judgment 1:29:30.880 --> 1:29:35.840 with yes and and our and the goal post has 1:29:35.880 --> 1:29:38.120 been moved. So you know, we used to be able 1:29:38.120 --> 1:29:41.320 to judge people's success by plaques. We used to be 1:29:41.400 --> 1:29:45.040 able to judge people's success by you know, awards. Um. 1:29:45.400 --> 1:29:48.920 Now it's kind of like um, like the plaques, aren't 1:29:49.280 --> 1:29:52.360 people used to people get excited for two hundred thousand 1:29:52.479 --> 1:29:55.600 records sold and three hundred thousand records, So now you 1:29:56.439 --> 1:30:04.479 with it the numbers like the numbers that used to 1:30:04.560 --> 1:30:07.320 be put up on the fun a lot more money. 1:30:12.200 --> 1:30:16.479 How would excitement over sixty reconsole when I mean, it's like, 1:30:16.640 --> 1:30:19.640 so are we had to reevaluate what is valuable with 1:30:19.760 --> 1:30:22.160 the whole ship, you know what I'm saying. So we 1:30:22.280 --> 1:30:23.960 can't look at it the way we used to look 1:30:24.000 --> 1:30:27.719 at it. So that's why people are able to become 1:30:27.920 --> 1:30:31.479 like suits, like I'm sorry, superstars overnight through the streaming 1:30:31.560 --> 1:30:34.639 ship and through these other things. But then you gotta 1:30:34.640 --> 1:30:36.960 look at the longevity of it, you know what I'm saying. 1:30:37.040 --> 1:30:40.400 Like these guys they turn on and they out a 1:30:40.520 --> 1:30:43.320 year in the next year, So there's there's the price 1:30:43.400 --> 1:30:46.080 to pay for that instant fame. But the one thing 1:30:46.240 --> 1:30:48.560 that I do get the new generation that is so 1:30:49.160 --> 1:30:57.080 awesome is they can go directly. Absolutely that's the Yeah, yeah, 1:30:57.240 --> 1:31:00.040 so are they because a lot of them are you 1:31:00.160 --> 1:31:07.839 mean to be going direct? And he pulls tribution, Yeah exactly. 1:31:09.240 --> 1:31:11.800 People like that because he makes these young kids rapping 1:31:11.840 --> 1:31:14.880 that don't have a label deal or don't have anything. 1:31:15.160 --> 1:31:17.240 It makes them feel like, well, if he could do 1:31:17.320 --> 1:31:18.640 it like that, I could do it like that. And 1:31:18.720 --> 1:31:20.760 I'm steady trying to tell you he's not doing it 1:31:20.880 --> 1:31:24.960 like that. There's always a wizard of Odes false product. 1:31:25.000 --> 1:31:27.280 You know what I'm saying. You give him a false hold, 1:31:27.520 --> 1:31:30.160 and I'm not gonna lie. It's making the music ship too, 1:31:30.520 --> 1:31:33.920 because anybody could make it. Like anybody could literally, like 1:31:34.320 --> 1:31:36.240 you know, I've seen a tweet the other day, I 1:31:36.280 --> 1:31:41.600 think I hosted it, and um and I see the 1:31:41.840 --> 1:31:43.960 tweet and they said, you know, back in the days, 1:31:44.280 --> 1:31:46.439 we would want to, you know, make a record like 1:31:47.160 --> 1:31:53.600 rock him and we could have another part of this, 1:31:54.080 --> 1:31:56.000 he said. But you can't never make it, he said. 1:31:56.240 --> 1:31:58.840 The thing is nowadays these kids could listen to a 1:31:58.920 --> 1:32:01.479 record and say, you know what, I make that and 1:32:01.640 --> 1:32:05.479 really make that that. That's like we can't do gender 1:32:05.560 --> 1:32:09.720 juice over can't do that, and like make that ship 1:32:09.800 --> 1:32:12.240 a class you can new pitch please right now and 1:32:12.360 --> 1:32:15.200 like making the same ship like right now you can 1:32:15.360 --> 1:32:21.680 actually do whatever. Wouldn't be thinking whatever these kids are doing, 1:32:21.720 --> 1:32:29.760 you can actually do it. I got X is a 1:32:29.800 --> 1:32:43.760 pertect big pharmacy. Oh you heard, he's that you'll give 1:32:43.800 --> 1:32:46.679 him one thing. At least at least they're peaceful about 1:32:46.680 --> 1:32:51.080 the ship because I might get shot. You know what 1:32:51.160 --> 1:32:53.320 I'm saying. That people used to beat over. You can't 1:32:53.360 --> 1:32:57.120 just jack somebody style of them bite somebody. You know. 1:32:57.280 --> 1:33:00.080 Now they just all sound like each other and do 1:33:00.200 --> 1:33:04.719 the funk sound like a j problem? There's no problem, 1:33:04.800 --> 1:33:06.600 you know what I'm saying. We came up. It was 1:33:06.720 --> 1:33:18.080 hands on, hippop hands on. He was so hands on. 1:33:18.840 --> 1:33:22.560 I forgot, what's your relationship with that? Mad right? Me 1:33:22.640 --> 1:33:26.880 and Busino? I think he uh, he says something about Slaughterhouse, 1:33:28.120 --> 1:33:31.040 and it was at a time where I didn't understand 1:33:31.120 --> 1:33:33.920 that when you're going to another level, people are gonna 1:33:33.960 --> 1:33:37.240 say ship you feel me? I thought that I still 1:33:37.320 --> 1:33:39.599 have to react to every fucking thing that everybody said. 1:33:40.040 --> 1:33:41.840 You know, now I understand I don't have to react 1:33:41.840 --> 1:33:45.080 to ship, you know what I'm saying. But he said 1:33:45.120 --> 1:33:48.040 something negative about slaughter House and I was just in 1:33:48.160 --> 1:33:50.559 that mode like, yo, no man, you know what I mean? 1:33:50.800 --> 1:33:52.680 And then him and Royce had a little back and 1:33:52.800 --> 1:33:56.360 forth and it was it was crazy because you know, 1:33:56.960 --> 1:33:59.200 I used to funk with buses. You know. You know 1:33:59.320 --> 1:34:02.240 what I'm saying. He got the day the day and 1:34:02.400 --> 1:34:04.559 Dave made you know what I'm saying, and I respect 1:34:04.640 --> 1:34:06.760 what they put down with the source and you know 1:34:06.840 --> 1:34:09.400 that's stuff that's the original bodyboard hip hop fast. You 1:34:09.479 --> 1:34:13.479 know what I'm saying. And I just I just hated that. 1:34:14.040 --> 1:34:16.200 I probably handle that a little wrong. You know what 1:34:16.240 --> 1:34:18.160 I'm saying. To be honest with you. You know what 1:34:18.200 --> 1:34:20.880 I'm saying, because he's bigging you up. They're coming on 1:34:21.040 --> 1:34:23.800 here and them actually bigging you up. Let's saying the 1:34:23.800 --> 1:34:26.320 exact opposite of what's happened. At the time. He's like, 1:34:26.360 --> 1:34:28.519 you know, Cook, it's my man. He just you don't 1:34:28.560 --> 1:34:30.000 know what's going on in the room. And I was like, 1:34:30.080 --> 1:34:32.720 oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that. Yeah man, I mean 1:34:32.880 --> 1:34:35.000 you know, it's you know, cool man. I just like 1:34:35.080 --> 1:34:37.400 I said, Dog, I was just in that space. Dog. 1:34:37.560 --> 1:34:39.760 You know, sometimes you and that when you're lawyer. When 1:34:39.800 --> 1:34:44.120 you're lawyer, can't see but you're riding for the team, 1:34:44.160 --> 1:34:47.000 supposed to ride for the team and everything else. Later 1:34:47.200 --> 1:34:50.519 he's supposed to say whatever. You know, these things, you know, 1:34:51.280 --> 1:34:53.960 januinely cares about the culture, whether you agree with some 1:34:54.040 --> 1:35:01.040 of these views or not. Yes, yes he cares about 1:35:01.080 --> 1:35:04.560 the culture like he's a hip hop but he is 1:35:04.760 --> 1:35:08.400 one million percent for the culture is one million percent. 1:35:08.840 --> 1:35:11.720 And you know, sometimes you know you you could be 1:35:11.720 --> 1:35:15.679 in the right place, right y'all think he probably whatever 1:35:15.800 --> 1:35:17.840 he said he is. It's so crazy. I don't even 1:35:18.120 --> 1:35:20.439 remember what it was about. But I think it has 1:35:20.479 --> 1:35:22.680 something to do with us being attached to eminem and 1:35:22.960 --> 1:35:27.519 m and history, you know what I mean. So and 1:35:27.600 --> 1:35:29.320 plus I wasn't even around me and you know what 1:35:29.360 --> 1:35:33.439 I mean. But you know, silly ship like that. Yeah, man, 1:35:33.560 --> 1:35:38.720 hip hop, I'm actually I actually love that we can grow. 1:35:38.960 --> 1:35:41.400 I actually love that, you know, people get like I 1:35:41.560 --> 1:35:44.880 love Drake and Meet Mills situation right now, like, and 1:35:45.000 --> 1:35:47.080 I love that Drake even made fun of it like 1:35:47.160 --> 1:35:49.320 a poster. Mean was like, yo, if I hurt you 1:35:50.439 --> 1:35:52.639 and I ain't, He's like, did you see that ship? 1:35:52.800 --> 1:35:58.880 Like watching? And I think that's what makes hip hop dope. 1:35:58.880 --> 1:36:03.960 It's like, yo, I can we can be but as 1:36:04.040 --> 1:36:06.320 long as no one got their hands put on, no 1:36:06.400 --> 1:36:09.400 one's gonna hurt that. We can also you know, make 1:36:09.479 --> 1:36:13.719 amends and then make money. And it helped sixteen thousand 1:36:13.840 --> 1:36:17.840 other people make more money. I feel like that's I 1:36:17.920 --> 1:36:20.000 feel like, I feel like that's what the East Coast 1:36:20.080 --> 1:36:23.080 West Coast say is. It was a big misunderstanding, and 1:36:23.200 --> 1:36:24.760 now I look at it. You can't go to the 1:36:24.840 --> 1:36:27.519 East Coast without seeing a West Coast due East Coast. 1:36:27.840 --> 1:36:29.840 I can't go to the West Coast, but I've seen 1:36:29.920 --> 1:36:35.160 the East Coast dude, like, and it's just but we 1:36:35.240 --> 1:36:38.400 wouldn't have been there fun if it wasn't some type 1:36:38.439 --> 1:36:42.080 of like like not the same We're respected the smoke, 1:36:42.320 --> 1:36:45.400 but the fact that that happened and what it is 1:36:45.479 --> 1:36:48.519 today and what it is today like to this day, 1:36:48.760 --> 1:36:51.599 I go out there and everybody when I'm in um 1:36:51.880 --> 1:36:54.400 in l A, most of the people I see is 1:36:54.520 --> 1:36:57.080 from New York people. And then when I'm in New York, 1:36:57.120 --> 1:36:59.560 everybody's like, man, you know, they we both got the 1:36:59.600 --> 1:37:05.800 opposite goal whatever. Always it's always funny. When I was 1:37:06.000 --> 1:37:07.479 when I give an iced tea because I'm like, what's 1:37:07.560 --> 1:37:08.840 up over the room, He's like, you don't you know 1:37:08.880 --> 1:37:11.600 I live over here, Like like, damn, you know I 1:37:11.680 --> 1:37:16.680 want to live where you just laugh exactly, And I 1:37:16.960 --> 1:37:23.600 love New York man killing it, man doing movies you 1:37:23.840 --> 1:37:27.519 gotta be in l a correct. You know. A lot 1:37:27.560 --> 1:37:30.400 of movies you know and not get booked in that light. 1:37:30.560 --> 1:37:32.599 But a lot of movies are filmed in other plays 1:37:32.960 --> 1:37:38.200 like yeah, Van cool, you know Atlanta. Um film film 1:37:38.280 --> 1:37:41.320 can happen anywhere, you know, But the business isn't that 1:37:41.439 --> 1:37:46.599 like you know, um and the people that that really 1:37:47.040 --> 1:37:49.800 are pushing buttons and the studios are there, you know. 1:37:50.040 --> 1:37:53.280 So if you're gonna come there as an executive as 1:37:53.360 --> 1:37:56.960 as as an actor, you will at some point, um 1:37:57.760 --> 1:38:02.280 come to that La Copter. God, damn, I'm not gonna lie. 1:38:03.200 --> 1:38:08.639 You have the best weed in the morning. I remember, 1:38:08.680 --> 1:38:12.120 I wasn't you. I don't remember that. I got a 1:38:12.160 --> 1:38:14.840 little story for you. I was on the West Coast 1:38:14.920 --> 1:38:18.000 one night. I just left out a subclub and I 1:38:18.080 --> 1:38:20.360 stood outside smoking and you was out, was like you 1:38:20.520 --> 1:38:24.840 helped me down. I was outside smoking and he was 1:38:24.880 --> 1:38:27.360 looking up. He was like, it's just snormy. You could 1:38:27.360 --> 1:38:32.120 just buy himself just I was like, yo, I had 1:38:32.360 --> 1:38:38.560 already got soaked in and yeah, man like, because you know, 1:38:38.680 --> 1:38:40.240 it was scary for us at first, you know what 1:38:40.240 --> 1:38:43.519 I'm saying, because of you know, the biggie thing like 1:38:43.640 --> 1:38:46.040 you know that ship that that's some scary ship, like 1:38:46.240 --> 1:38:48.800 you know for us, because we didn't. We were too 1:38:48.920 --> 1:38:51.040 young to understand what was going on. We're too young 1:38:51.120 --> 1:38:55.639 to understand that the disc record could lead to too 1:38:55.800 --> 1:38:58.840 We're coming ain't bad? All right? Yeah, he called me. 1:38:59.439 --> 1:39:01.800 You're we come inhead. We want to put you in 1:39:01.840 --> 1:39:05.600 the podcast where you at. You sound drunk? All right? 1:39:05.640 --> 1:39:07.799 All right, come in here, come inside, Come inside, Come inside, 1:39:08.600 --> 1:39:11.160 I said, he sounds drunk. I ain't even here, but 1:39:14.080 --> 1:39:16.720 it was it was I remember I remember after Big 1:39:16.880 --> 1:39:20.439 Dying m I don't care what the record label we 1:39:20.600 --> 1:39:23.000 was on. They we would lad and they would make 1:39:23.040 --> 1:39:25.519 sure we had security, and I was like a non 1:39:25.640 --> 1:39:28.400 security dude, and it was just like it was something 1:39:28.520 --> 1:39:31.639 we couldn't fight and we were like literally like shoku. 1:39:32.880 --> 1:39:35.040 And I remember none of us hunk out, like none 1:39:35.080 --> 1:39:37.160 of us came. It was one of those days and 1:39:37.280 --> 1:39:39.479 I came out and I said it. I remember evening 1:39:39.520 --> 1:39:42.519 actually said. I was like, man, you know New York dudes, 1:39:42.520 --> 1:39:46.840 don't hangtu eather like, don't finish that, don't finish the sentence. Remember, 1:39:46.920 --> 1:39:49.439 it was like a chill because I was like because 1:39:49.560 --> 1:39:51.760 it was like literally that tab bore at the time 1:39:53.240 --> 1:39:56.719 because I was that was real, Like we hadn't seen 1:39:56.880 --> 1:39:59.320 death in hip hop, like we've seen death and hip 1:39:59.360 --> 1:40:05.040 we didn't see you know, cancer, diabetes and like that, 1:40:05.160 --> 1:40:08.600 so you know, it was real. So where we at now, Popsipe, 1:40:09.000 --> 1:40:11.160 And that's the exact same thing I'm talking about when 1:40:11.160 --> 1:40:12.560 I came to New York because that was one of 1:40:12.640 --> 1:40:15.040 my first trips to New York, you know what I mean, 1:40:15.120 --> 1:40:17.320 And I didn't know what to exact. I'm on death 1:40:17.439 --> 1:40:20.280 row records, you know, I'm going to the East Coast 1:40:20.320 --> 1:40:23.080 ship I might be loving. You feel me, so you 1:40:23.200 --> 1:40:25.840 know when you did what you did, you feel me 1:40:26.439 --> 1:40:28.519 and that's what made me say, you know what, this 1:40:28.600 --> 1:40:30.439 is solid dude, man. You know what I mean. I'll 1:40:30.479 --> 1:40:32.680 never forget this moment, you know what I mean. And 1:40:33.200 --> 1:40:35.200 I like how you say giving the people the flowers 1:40:35.240 --> 1:40:37.640 and all that, because like even x X is of 1:40:37.680 --> 1:40:40.560 one hundred dude, period. You can't find people in the 1:40:40.640 --> 1:40:42.840 industry that's one hundred like that, you know what I mean. 1:40:43.080 --> 1:40:45.320 So when you do, you gotta give them their flowers 1:40:45.360 --> 1:40:47.600 while they hear you. Gotta say it on public platforms. 1:40:47.680 --> 1:40:50.360 People act like it's illegal to tell the truth. Sometimes 1:40:50.400 --> 1:40:52.599 you know what I'm saying, But this dude right here 1:40:52.760 --> 1:41:00.800 one many levels to show love, yeah, show love like um. 1:41:01.840 --> 1:41:06.439 One of the craziest things is uh us to say 1:41:06.520 --> 1:41:10.720 no homebo. Right. We get I get it. But a 1:41:10.800 --> 1:41:13.120 lot of times if I say, yo, cookie man, you 1:41:13.200 --> 1:41:16.280 know that first you got on the I might just say, 1:41:16.439 --> 1:41:20.320 you know, no, homo five because the bird was hard. 1:41:21.400 --> 1:41:24.240 He's showing a line. And the thing is, it puts 1:41:24.320 --> 1:41:27.280 a taboo on our culture when that's that should be 1:41:27.320 --> 1:41:29.760 the exact opposite. That should be like, you know, we 1:41:29.760 --> 1:41:31.439 shouldn't even say that. We should be like yo, man 1:41:31.520 --> 1:41:37.559 who killed that? Give people all mainstream show yeah yeah, 1:41:39.040 --> 1:41:41.080 and we gotta we gotta, we gotta change that in 1:41:41.120 --> 1:41:43.479 our culture. We have to exchange it. We have to. 1:41:43.640 --> 1:41:45.839 We have to like this is why I drink champions 1:41:45.880 --> 1:41:48.600 it like you know, so many people, you know, we 1:41:48.640 --> 1:41:50.840 will see I'm gonna keep it real. I don't want 1:41:50.880 --> 1:41:54.760 to front. We will see so much slack. We put 1:41:54.800 --> 1:41:58.640 on ot Genesis and we put on young dogs, right 1:41:59.040 --> 1:42:03.920 people that's probably I considered legends, but we wanted to 1:42:03.960 --> 1:42:06.519 get them benefit. Doubt they knew brothers. They're coming up, 1:42:06.560 --> 1:42:10.679 they're doing it, and we built our this this ship 1:42:10.920 --> 1:42:25.639 so bad that the fans really fans there. But come on, please, 1:42:25.720 --> 1:42:30.400 let come on. We don't gotta break the screens. Get 1:42:30.439 --> 1:42:40.720 a chance, get talking about real quickly. Oh you can't 1:42:40.720 --> 1:42:53.720 even Dominican jacket too pure, you don't worry about come on, 1:42:54.520 --> 1:42:58.040 we're sure you guys. Mike, we don't know. Mike, you've 1:42:58.040 --> 1:43:01.000 got the boom. Mike, right, get this away. I need 1:43:01.080 --> 1:43:03.400 to do saying. Oh, that's right, that's a right, that's 1:43:03.520 --> 1:43:06.120 right to do. St. Pelusa. Let's make some voice producing. 1:43:09.200 --> 1:43:11.400 That's the found the right started in that motherfucker's career, 1:43:11.520 --> 1:43:16.240 right there? Are you? Loco? I know you know, you 1:43:16.320 --> 1:43:19.080 know that we're gonna joe this podcast. Really you didn't 1:43:19.080 --> 1:43:25.880 know this is rory? Yeah? Really no, No, that's it, Yeah, 1:43:26.439 --> 1:43:32.400 familiar milion. This is never gonna be a slaughter house again. 1:43:33.320 --> 1:43:38.880 This is an ambush. I didn't know. I didn't let this. 1:43:40.160 --> 1:43:45.240 This is a total inbush outside Crook's love all that. 1:43:46.280 --> 1:43:47.960 This is an ambush. I just want to make that close. 1:43:48.600 --> 1:43:52.560 It's a total ambush. I can't because I love you. 1:43:52.880 --> 1:43:56.120 I don't know what you were doing. The house to 1:43:56.200 --> 1:43:57.840 come back quick. We sold the house is none of 1:43:57.880 --> 1:43:59.920 my business. Why did y'all ask me if I sold out? Yeah, 1:44:00.479 --> 1:44:02.559 that's true, that's why would I That was a great response. 1:44:06.160 --> 1:44:08.559 Crook and Joey do a lot of respect. I love Joe. 1:44:08.680 --> 1:44:11.280 My loyalty is always with Joe, But why would have 1:44:11.320 --> 1:44:12.880 an opinion on sold house? That's gonna do with me? 1:44:13.800 --> 1:44:20.000 I got a expenion, So you're not smoking. I think, 1:44:20.240 --> 1:44:23.000 I think I want to. I want you to you know, 1:44:23.120 --> 1:44:26.760 if Drake and meet mail where you're going with this 1:44:27.200 --> 1:44:30.880 can move on? I think eventually slow the house because 1:44:31.160 --> 1:44:33.040 I think it's it's too important to hip hop to 1:44:33.120 --> 1:44:36.320 let that go. Me personally, I don't know where everything 1:44:36.479 --> 1:44:39.559 lies wherever because I don't. I don't know everything because 1:44:39.600 --> 1:44:41.200 I'm also an artists. I don't know if you had 1:44:41.200 --> 1:44:43.160 an agenda here with a sold house. No, I don't. 1:44:43.280 --> 1:44:45.920 I'm not gonna say a word that we could talk 1:44:45.920 --> 1:44:48.320 a hip hop but I don't have any opinion. A 1:44:48.400 --> 1:44:55.840 lot of apples and what they do that I mean, 1:44:55.920 --> 1:45:01.320 they're very HIPI as a fan, I love Let's like 1:45:01.400 --> 1:45:03.360 saying like if I was actually about Wu Tang, right, 1:45:03.479 --> 1:45:05.400 if I was gonna say Yo Wu Tang, you would 1:45:05.439 --> 1:45:08.360 say what messy man is not one of my best friends. 1:45:08.520 --> 1:45:13.679 So I can comment objectively great, fucking great. I can't 1:45:13.720 --> 1:45:17.280 objectively talk about start out. One of the members is 1:45:17.439 --> 1:45:20.439 one of like, that's tenly to me. I respect that, 1:45:20.520 --> 1:45:23.200 So I can't. Let's stay business. It's not about business. Respect, 1:45:23.200 --> 1:45:29.360 that's not about it. Pete, about where are you from? 1:45:29.400 --> 1:45:32.240 Queen's you set up? Can you get to try to 1:45:32.360 --> 1:45:38.560 take them all? Shout? He get a shout? Can we 1:45:38.600 --> 1:45:40.240 get a run of plause for your project? This ship? 1:45:40.720 --> 1:45:47.880 I don't know what project? Oh think, what are you 1:45:47.920 --> 1:45:50.840 talking about? My favorite part of that intro? Man? What's 1:45:50.960 --> 1:45:54.160 what's the bar? I'm about to get rich of a 1:45:54.280 --> 1:45:59.080 pure personality again, Thank you man. I appreciate it. Everybody 1:45:59.120 --> 1:46:02.080 but yourself. That's right. That's good because I stay ahead 1:46:02.160 --> 1:46:05.280 like big up everybody else and then you no one 1:46:05.400 --> 1:46:08.400 to pay attention to what you're doing. I want you 1:46:08.760 --> 1:46:09.880 have a little bit of beef. I do have a 1:46:09.920 --> 1:46:15.800 little beef with you. Here we go again, changing. I'm 1:46:15.800 --> 1:46:20.280 a professional. Last time I came here, when I was 1:46:20.360 --> 1:46:23.519 on here, it was cool. It was like, really this 1:46:23.680 --> 1:46:26.479 is like some real professional. You got the whole We 1:46:26.640 --> 1:46:29.320 was in a different world. Try to like this ship 1:46:30.960 --> 1:46:35.000 doing takes like this ain't the cool. Yes, it's crazy, 1:46:35.160 --> 1:46:43.080 sold brother, I'm sorry we're not saying the checks. Time 1:46:43.200 --> 1:46:45.479 I was here, this ship was like you kick you 1:46:45.560 --> 1:46:48.400 see a man show man. They got hair and makeup. 1:46:48.600 --> 1:46:50.679 Oh no, they do the pup and they got stars. 1:46:50.880 --> 1:46:54.720 They stylish. At least you don't do hair makeup and 1:46:54.800 --> 1:46:58.160 stylish man, that's debatable. No, we don't got on hair makeup. 1:46:58.439 --> 1:47:00.600 I didn't see it, but I wouldn't be so. And 1:47:00.640 --> 1:47:02.840 they'll think it here and do hair and makeup. He 1:47:03.160 --> 1:47:14.120 is a hair friend. Weeople were right. We are turned. 1:47:14.320 --> 1:47:16.680 We are a different show. But let me just say 1:47:16.760 --> 1:47:19.559 something right here. Let me pick up to a state 1:47:19.640 --> 1:47:21.960 of the coach other big up to Joe, what y'ab 1:47:22.040 --> 1:47:24.360 what you do? Let me pick up to the Joe podcast. 1:47:24.800 --> 1:47:29.439 Think y'all do? And and it's love and it's a 1:47:29.479 --> 1:47:32.559 community's end to think about the way if y'all succeed, 1:47:32.680 --> 1:47:36.639 we all success. The same fans ship is say, kind 1:47:36.680 --> 1:47:40.200 of a new uncharted territory type of ship, like the 1:47:40.280 --> 1:47:44.400 more with our Spotify deal, like that just gave people 1:47:44.479 --> 1:47:46.479 more worth, like when they saw what we was worth 1:47:46.520 --> 1:47:49.760 for that Spotify deal. That means the next podcast that 1:47:49.920 --> 1:47:51.800 comes up as the same numbers as us are. I 1:47:51.960 --> 1:47:53.559 know what we're worse because I know what they got. 1:47:54.439 --> 1:47:57.519 So when I did the revote ship like grap Radar 1:47:57.600 --> 1:47:59.720 all that ship. Any time we do the ship like 1:48:00.160 --> 1:48:03.320 people try to we're all. I know, we do the 1:48:03.400 --> 1:48:08.800 funny ship like. But it's not with me to think 1:48:08.840 --> 1:48:11.000 about it is this is what I believe in. I 1:48:11.120 --> 1:48:13.960 believe hip hop to control hip hop. Now what I 1:48:14.040 --> 1:48:17.280 mean by that is I love Hennessee right. I love 1:48:17.720 --> 1:48:19.680 I'm lie, I don't really love it, but I'm like 1:48:19.920 --> 1:48:22.600 I love love more. I love more Whack right. But 1:48:23.000 --> 1:48:25.080 if I had a choice, I would like to own 1:48:25.160 --> 1:48:27.599 my own version of more Whack Right. And I would 1:48:27.640 --> 1:48:29.720 like that to be on the table. To me in 1:48:29.760 --> 1:48:32.880 a perfect world is if I'm going to get socks, 1:48:33.040 --> 1:48:36.040 them socks is owned by somebody that is owned by 1:48:36.120 --> 1:48:39.880 somebody that owns something in hip hop. If I'm going 1:48:39.960 --> 1:48:41.720 to get news, I want like I said, I said 1:48:41.720 --> 1:48:43.600 it all the time, I want Jim Jones to be 1:48:43.720 --> 1:48:46.840 my weather man, like when I get the weather, and 1:48:46.960 --> 1:48:49.040 I wanted to be a nigga like Jim Jones going 1:48:49.080 --> 1:48:51.320 on the back with saying your ship is real and Brooklyn, 1:48:54.640 --> 1:48:57.800 do the fucker. I would rather that, Like if I'm 1:48:57.880 --> 1:49:00.439 going to go see sports, I would like to see 1:49:00.520 --> 1:49:02.960 j the Kiss being the person that's telling me, you'll 1:49:03.040 --> 1:49:09.200 listen the niggas that lake is they I would like 1:49:09.280 --> 1:49:11.600 it to come off from hip hop, like that's what, 1:49:11.680 --> 1:49:14.800 that's what, that's my dream, that my dream is. I 1:49:15.000 --> 1:49:18.200 never have to go outside my culture. And now with 1:49:18.400 --> 1:49:22.120 that being said, our culture can't be Ratio. It can't 1:49:22.160 --> 1:49:26.240 be you know, blacks and Latinos. That has to be everybody, 1:49:26.520 --> 1:49:30.200 anybody that love hip hop. That's our new race is 1:49:30.280 --> 1:49:35.719 hip hop. That we all bonded, we all congested together 1:49:35.840 --> 1:49:38.920 because we're all repper that one flag and that's hip hop. 1:49:39.960 --> 1:49:43.320 And I think that's what's gonna save humanity. I'm sorry, 1:49:43.320 --> 1:49:46.200 I got way too deep right now. Just's just not 1:49:46.400 --> 1:49:49.439 really dream jams. I'm sorry, but we're gonna shout out 1:49:49.479 --> 1:49:52.720 David Banner who was here are you? And he talked 1:49:52.760 --> 1:49:55.360 about that everything he was wearing except his pants, he 1:49:55.439 --> 1:50:01.400 owned it like he owned it and changed the economy 1:50:01.479 --> 1:50:04.519 in the hood. You see what I mean. It saved 1:50:04.520 --> 1:50:07.120 a lot of lives and they changed the entire economy. 1:50:07.560 --> 1:50:10.599 You gotta do rapping. You gotta managers, you gotta producer, 1:50:10.680 --> 1:50:13.000 you gotta promoter, you gotta graph artist, you gotta hip 1:50:13.000 --> 1:50:16.519 hop exact. You got people getting checks all because of 1:50:16.560 --> 1:50:20.200 the culture, and if it could do something as powerful 1:50:20.240 --> 1:50:22.280 as that, they could do exactly what you wanted to do. North. 1:50:22.439 --> 1:50:25.599 But when the cultures are changing the economy of the industry, 1:50:25.760 --> 1:50:29.000 that's when the culture started to change. Did the culture 1:50:29.120 --> 1:50:33.240 change or did mainstream rap just come into play, but 1:50:33.360 --> 1:50:35.880 the culture still. I just I've seen people down the 1:50:35.960 --> 1:50:39.560 street with the kids on the walls, you know what 1:50:39.600 --> 1:50:41.800 I'm saying. I go to Italy, I see people out there. 1:50:41.880 --> 1:50:45.360 You know they're rapping. Because it wasn't the president of 1:50:45.439 --> 1:50:48.200 the at one point, Yeah, he wanted to give me 1:50:48.240 --> 1:50:52.000 an exact job, you know what I'm saying that, and 1:50:52.000 --> 1:51:04.560 then he made came on. But that's how well he 1:51:04.840 --> 1:51:08.160 me and you talked about executive positions and you know, 1:51:08.680 --> 1:51:12.160 sugars like this. I'm going to go meet with Leor 1:51:12.280 --> 1:51:13.800 and I want you to learn the game and get 1:51:13.840 --> 1:51:16.240 your business i Q. So I'm gonna take you with 1:51:16.400 --> 1:51:19.080 me so you could just soak up the game, you 1:51:19.160 --> 1:51:21.280 know what I mean, and that's how she was, so, 1:51:21.840 --> 1:51:25.200 you know, and he wanted to do like retirement funds 1:51:25.280 --> 1:51:28.120 for artists. He wanted to do health you know what 1:51:28.280 --> 1:51:31.160 I mean, insurance for artists. But every time he tried 1:51:31.240 --> 1:51:34.400 to do something on that level, he got resistance from 1:51:34.439 --> 1:51:38.000 the powers that be. And sometimes that resistance comes in 1:51:38.040 --> 1:51:41.320 the form of the FEDS knocking at your doing. Luis, 1:51:41.760 --> 1:51:44.400 you should what I mean. So he had that mindset though, 1:51:44.479 --> 1:51:48.240 absolutely he had that mondset. We all biggest God bless 1:51:48.680 --> 1:51:51.120 I want to I want to thank you, exhibit, to 1:51:51.200 --> 1:51:54.759 thank you for coming out showing a love because honestly, 1:51:54.920 --> 1:51:57.559 this is what makes us who we are. We gotta 1:51:57.640 --> 1:52:03.120 keep saluting and supporting each other. Dig motherfucking crooked eye. Man, 1:52:04.040 --> 1:52:07.960 you brought you some snakes to Oh that's that's okay. 1:52:08.080 --> 1:52:11.360 I'm into that, you know. I'm Romeo eighteen seventy five 1:52:11.520 --> 1:52:13.960 is like my favorite man. Okay. So that's like Romeo 1:52:14.000 --> 1:52:17.639 and Juliette. Yeah, Romeo and Julian. That's a love story, 1:52:17.720 --> 1:52:24.120 like Jimo said. Yeah, And I also want to thank 1:52:24.160 --> 1:52:27.120 you too, war We gotta also want you to set 1:52:27.160 --> 1:52:34.240 up at all. I just think it's just something I 1:52:34.360 --> 1:52:38.160 was kid about that I wouldn't. That's inside, that's person 1:52:38.320 --> 1:52:44.920 that we know. It wasn't. Man, you know like that 1:52:45.040 --> 1:52:47.280 was a great connection right here, like I actually brought 1:52:47.320 --> 1:52:49.640 you up. Like he's here, like he knows. I mean, 1:52:49.760 --> 1:52:52.040 people want people want to know that's how strong the 1:52:52.080 --> 1:52:56.320 sat Our house brand was. Yeah, I mean not you 1:52:56.400 --> 1:52:59.360 still want to know outside of let's be clear, I 1:52:59.400 --> 1:53:01.840 got a little side commission at all. But as a 1:53:01.960 --> 1:53:04.240 hip hop or as a person that knows that four 1:53:04.439 --> 1:53:08.560 different lyricists got together and did some crazy ship and 1:53:08.680 --> 1:53:11.760 I don't know why it's going. I know that the 1:53:11.960 --> 1:53:15.479 M ship played a big part of it. That's all. 1:53:16.120 --> 1:53:17.320 You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying, 1:53:17.360 --> 1:53:22.000 And I just man and let me just ask you again, 1:53:22.080 --> 1:53:24.760 this is not a sound But did you know? That's 1:53:24.760 --> 1:53:28.440 how you know it's a set up? What did you disrespect? 1:53:28.479 --> 1:53:30.639 When here comes from disrespect? You named Joe went kind 1:53:30.640 --> 1:53:33.519 of too far when he was critiquing M's album or 1:53:34.000 --> 1:53:38.639 or uh. I think a lot of things that Joe 1:53:38.720 --> 1:53:40.519 said were made up. If you go back and look 1:53:40.600 --> 1:53:42.280 what he said on every Day Struggle, I think it 1:53:42.360 --> 1:53:48.960 got blown out of proportion. I think I was I 1:53:49.000 --> 1:53:51.080 think a lot of ship went to the headline thing 1:53:52.280 --> 1:53:54.240 and and just knowing Joe personally and how much he 1:53:54.400 --> 1:53:59.240 loves him and respects him proportion though, if you go 1:53:59.400 --> 1:54:01.320 back and look what he said on Everyday Struggle, I 1:54:01.479 --> 1:54:05.320 challenged anyone that picks. He used the word trash, and 1:54:05.640 --> 1:54:08.160 I think that was what was the Remember the context 1:54:08.200 --> 1:54:12.040 exactly of what was trash untouchable? I guess he says 1:54:12.040 --> 1:54:14.040 his trash stored in the rice or some ship. You 1:54:14.120 --> 1:54:16.519 know what Joe be saying? Yeah, going on, I mean 1:54:17.240 --> 1:54:21.120 that's going to podcast. No, No, the thing that everyone 1:54:21.240 --> 1:54:24.160 was talking about was right there. Okay, yeah it wasn't aboutcast. 1:54:24.360 --> 1:54:27.479 But did he clarify it on on your podcast? Yeah? Yeah, 1:54:27.479 --> 1:54:30.839 we significantly went through it. And you know, I'm always 1:54:30.960 --> 1:54:33.480 as as one of his close friends, the first person 1:54:33.480 --> 1:54:35.880 to say when he bugging, And I don't think he 1:54:36.040 --> 1:54:40.160 was sucking. I think it was Honestly, I don't want 1:54:40.160 --> 1:54:42.200 to know you, don't want to have more complications but 1:54:42.440 --> 1:54:45.480 platform with you, because what yeah, that's nothing to do 1:54:45.600 --> 1:54:47.360 with me. I got I want to be here to 1:54:47.400 --> 1:54:52.520 talk about here because I love North to death. My 1:54:52.640 --> 1:54:56.080 whole thing is is that, like I was saying, dog, 1:54:57.000 --> 1:55:02.440 if you got a issue with somebody pass on the 1:55:02.520 --> 1:55:06.200 critique of the album and their singles, because how can 1:55:06.280 --> 1:55:09.480 you be fair? How can you come from a place 1:55:09.560 --> 1:55:12.280 that you know what I mean, you just listening to it, 1:55:12.600 --> 1:55:15.000 you say, and your personal feelings to the side. I 1:55:15.080 --> 1:55:18.880 don't think so, you know what I mean? And I 1:55:19.040 --> 1:55:21.400 just think that with everything that see, me and Royce 1:55:21.560 --> 1:55:24.600 were very hands on Snarterhouse from the beginning to the end, 1:55:24.680 --> 1:55:27.360 me and Royce to five nine. So all fitness, I'm 1:55:27.400 --> 1:55:29.840 sorry to cut your sustrainity and I wanted you to 1:55:29.920 --> 1:55:34.960 finish your point. But um, so we're talking about revival, right, Yeah, 1:55:35.000 --> 1:55:38.640 we talked about revival, but then Kama Kazi actually came 1:55:38.680 --> 1:55:41.960 out after that, which was the am I correctory. The 1:55:42.040 --> 1:55:44.680 Karmic Kazi came out right after him. So do you 1:55:44.760 --> 1:55:48.080 think m felt that like a little bit like like 1:55:48.520 --> 1:55:50.840 that's from Joe particular, But I'm just saying, just do 1:55:50.920 --> 1:55:52.880 you think that he felt that from that fans? So 1:55:53.000 --> 1:55:55.720 that's why he went and made Karma Kazi. I think 1:55:55.760 --> 1:55:58.440 he was inspired, and I think he was inspired by 1:55:58.480 --> 1:56:01.360 his critics. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I think 1:56:01.400 --> 1:56:03.800 he was inspired by his class and he just went 1:56:03.880 --> 1:56:06.080 in and got and that's him. He gonna he's gonna 1:56:06.080 --> 1:56:08.080 speak his mind. I mean, he's done in his own career, 1:56:08.720 --> 1:56:10.520 you know what I mean. So he was just inspired. 1:56:10.560 --> 1:56:14.040 He went in and he made some ship. And you know, 1:56:14.240 --> 1:56:18.720 like I said, Dog, it's just like I said me, Royce, 1:56:18.880 --> 1:56:23.120 we just really we win the trenches for slaughter House. 1:56:23.960 --> 1:56:26.800 You give me so when it you go in the 1:56:26.880 --> 1:56:30.440 trenches like that, and if you if you got a 1:56:30.520 --> 1:56:34.160 communication line with your brothers, then you talk to your 1:56:34.200 --> 1:56:36.000 brothers like, Yo, this is what I'm about to do. 1:56:37.040 --> 1:56:39.400 Is this gonna harm anything that you guys are doing 1:56:39.520 --> 1:56:42.960 to try to get glass House out right now? Because 1:56:43.000 --> 1:56:44.880 I don't like my time to be wasted. If I'm 1:56:44.880 --> 1:56:47.400 flying from Cali to New York sitting in the office, 1:56:47.480 --> 1:56:51.040 is fighting for this Glasshouse ship on my own time? 1:56:52.200 --> 1:56:54.000 Let me know if you're gonna throw a grenade at 1:56:54.040 --> 1:56:56.280 that bitch, you know what I'm saying, Just let me know, 1:56:57.240 --> 1:57:00.440 and I won't get on that plane. You feel me, God, 1:57:00.440 --> 1:57:03.720 it's gone all right? Yeah, wrap it up. Let's wrap 1:57:03.840 --> 1:57:19.760 it up. He's not a quit. Now. I gotta take 1:57:19.760 --> 1:57:20.120 a PASSI